Speaker 1: Hello, Eury Jeff coming to you after Xavier basketball on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, an abbreviated nightcap. If you will, I
Speaker 1: wish you would, I hope you do stick around. We've
Speaker 1: got some good guests coming up. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: open up with an appeal to you and to anyone listening.
Speaker 1: If you're not on it already, and I'm sure my
Speaker 1: listeners are already hopping on that, but you're just flying
Speaker 1: by on the dial and hearing this. The record amount
Speaker 1: of rainfall and now flooding that is occurring in central
Speaker 1: and eastern Kentucky. And it's an overused term, but it
Speaker 1: looks like biblical proportions, just record amounts, and people are
Speaker 1: flooded out of their homes. There have been fourteen deaths
Speaker 1: so far from the heavy rain in Kentucky and Tennessee
Speaker 1: and into Virginia. Now the bullseye is on the state
Speaker 1: of Virginia as the storm moves on, and now we're
Speaker 1: getting ice and snow in the forecast. Three to five
Speaker 1: inches possible in some of those areas that are still
Speaker 1: flooded over. Can you even imagine? And if you're listening
Speaker 1: in one of those areas, you don't have to imagine,
Speaker 1: because it's right there, literally at your doorstep. But I
Speaker 1: would just ask you to do what I did earlier
Speaker 1: today and you can pick the charity you want. Matthew
Speaker 1: twenty five Ministries does a fantastic job. Anytime our neighbors
Speaker 1: are fellow Americans, anybody in our country is in distress
Speaker 1: and needs a hand, they're there. And Samaritans purse similarly,
Speaker 1: and the American Red Cross, the Old standby. Any donations
Speaker 1: I'm sure would be gladly accepted, and they are needed
Speaker 1: so much at this time because the relief efforts haven't
Speaker 1: even begune. When they do, people are going to be
Speaker 1: coming back and finding that they've lost everything to the
Speaker 1: water or the winter storm. There are people without electricity
Speaker 1: right now. We should pray for them. We should do
Speaker 1: anything we can to help, just like we did in
Speaker 1: the aftermath of Hurricane Helene and the wildfires in southern
Speaker 1: California Pacific Palisades at all. And it is American's nature
Speaker 1: to help out. We are a generous people. It's time
Speaker 1: for us to open up our wallets again, and I
Speaker 1: would just encourage you to do that on the show tonight,
Speaker 1: Reverend Jim Harden from Compasscare USA, Lee Walms Guns from
Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile, and Max McGuire, he of the Max McGuire Show.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about numerous issues with these folks, and of
Speaker 1: course the fur Ball flies in for his Tuesday Night
Speaker 1: close up in just a few minutes. This is the nightcap.
Speaker 1: It's great to be with you, and remember the people
Speaker 1: in central eastern Kentucky. In Tennessee, fourteen lives lost so far.
Speaker 1: Governor Basheer a man who I've given a lot of
Speaker 1: crap to, I guess over the years, especially during COVID,
Speaker 1: but he has rightly said that if you are not
Speaker 1: flooded out of your home, if you are safe, you
Speaker 1: should probably stay there if you're in these affected flood areas.
Speaker 1: As you know, like I said, the recovery hasn't even
Speaker 1: begun because we're still in the middle of this, but
Speaker 1: it is going to be bad and people are going
Speaker 1: to need help. So anything you could do is a
Speaker 1: gift from God to those folks. So done preaching, Let's
Speaker 1: get ready to do the rest of the thing. Here
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW as I promise, I promise, I delivered,
Speaker 1: just kind of like President Trump.
Speaker 2: Andy Furman is now ready to go on the phone.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, just a minute, wait, just a freaking minute.
Speaker 3: I love you and everything is fine between us. We're
Speaker 3: good buddies. But don't be lying to the public on
Speaker 3: the radio. Say you deliver like President Trump, because he
Speaker 3: said that Mexico is going to pay for the wall,
Speaker 3: so they'll be lying. Okay, he didn't deliver.
Speaker 1: No, And Andy, Andy, you're living in the pre you're living,
Speaker 1: you're living in the past.
Speaker 2: This time he is following.
Speaker 3: He's a liar. He's following.
Speaker 1: He's following through on all of his campaign promises right now,
Speaker 1: in real time as you and I speak tonight.
Speaker 3: So he's been president for twenty freaking days. Let's see
Speaker 3: what he does. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: You haven't moved on anyway. Well, let's let's know you're
Speaker 1: you're like the Democrats, who have you loved on.
Speaker 2: I'm not lying. I don't lie.
Speaker 1: I don't lie till I delivered, just like President Trump.
Speaker 1: I promised, I promised you were coming on, and here
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the only thing you said so far.
Speaker 4: It's been true.
Speaker 3: Let's say let's move on.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Andy, Well, you know what, I tell you something. It's
Speaker 3: funny because I'm hearing all this buzz. If the Sinci
Speaker 3: Bengals and the signed Jamar Chase, they got to sign
Speaker 3: t Higgins, they got to sign Trey Henderson. I say,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, did any of these people watch the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Did they see that blueprint had to win?
Speaker 3: It's line play. It's line play. Hey, look, Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: runs rings around the Jalen Hurts, the quarterback of the
Speaker 3: Ingles to know that about that? He fromot five thousand yards,
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. But if you have a quarterback
Speaker 3: that doesn't turn the ball over, and a great defensive
Speaker 3: line and a great offensive line, and I'm running back
Speaker 3: that could really go crazy, which Sequon Barkley did, you
Speaker 3: could win. They gave up Joe Mixon. No one talks
Speaker 3: about that. Joe Mixon had a hell of a year
Speaker 3: in Texas, Okay, with the Texans. So I'm not so
Speaker 3: certain signing these guys is such a major deal. I
Speaker 3: really don't believe that. I really don't.
Speaker 1: All right, Two things, Andy, Saquon Barkley did not run
Speaker 1: rampant during the Super Bowl. They they devised a plan,
Speaker 1: a successful plan to stop him.
Speaker 3: And Joe Dix. He got them there.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon wasn't in the Super Bowl this year doing anything.
Speaker 1: It didn't really help the Texans at all. They have
Speaker 1: him have a great year. So I don't think the
Speaker 1: running back is really the issue. A running game in
Speaker 1: which you could have done with p Ryan. If the
Speaker 1: Bengals had had an offensive line when they had p
Speaker 1: Ryan in the lineup, they could have been fine with
Speaker 1: p Ryan if they had a good run offense, which
Speaker 1: they have still yet to prove that they can deliver
Speaker 1: for the fans.
Speaker 4: So if you.
Speaker 3: Look at the successful teams in the playoffs, what do
Speaker 3: they do? They played great defense and they ran the football.
Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills they turned it around this year. Why
Speaker 3: they ran the football not necessarily Bengals obviously, Well, you
Speaker 3: know it's one game, but they got there. You know,
Speaker 3: the Bengals never got to the playoffs. They got there.
Speaker 3: And the point I'm saying is that the Bengals don't
Speaker 3: have a running game.
Speaker 1: They don't know that means they don't have a running
Speaker 1: game because they do not have a proper offensive line
Speaker 1: or defensive line. So I'm agreeing with your assessment. That's
Speaker 1: where it.
Speaker 3: All right, And they don't have a quality running back.
Speaker 3: But sa Quon Barkley played for the Bengals, he still
Speaker 3: have an outstanding year. Not as good a year as
Speaker 3: he had in Philadelphia, but he'd have a great year.
Speaker 4: He really would.
Speaker 1: Chase Chase a gat year for a Bengal quarter running
Speaker 1: back expected. Chase Brown showed flashes of of like all
Speaker 1: pro play when he wasn't injured this year, and the
Speaker 1: Bengals could do the things you're talking about with a
Speaker 1: Chase Brown or with a p Rynd in the backfield.
Speaker 1: They don't have to have Saquon Barkley to get there.
Speaker 1: They don't see kuon.
Speaker 3: Look, Chase Brown had more success catching the ball out
Speaker 3: of the backfield than running the football. Okay, at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I's either here or there because
Speaker 3: the Bengals, like you and I were in front of
Speaker 3: their TV sets watching the playoffs. That's the bottom line,
Speaker 3: all right. So the point is that you've got to
Speaker 3: do something to make your team better, and to give
Speaker 3: those guys, those three players more money. To me, is
Speaker 3: going to make your team better. No, I do. I'm
Speaker 3: not disagreed.
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you on that one.
Speaker 1: I think that they are crucial for continued Bengals success,
Speaker 1: but that can't be the only thing. They've got to
Speaker 1: put these other places together some reason.
Speaker 3: Let me they continued Bengel success. They've hadn't had success
Speaker 3: in the last two years. Think about that. What kind
Speaker 3: of success if they.
Speaker 1: Had, if they have season they want to continue the
Speaker 1: kind of offensive success that they have enjoyed. Even this
Speaker 1: season in a nine and eight season, they had offensive success,
Speaker 1: but their defense was not up to the challenge and
Speaker 1: they did not have a proper offensive line. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: was on his but more than a toddler learning to walk.
Speaker 2: And that's because the Bengals don't have.
Speaker 3: Play You're right, But offensive success got them nowhere. He
Speaker 3: threw for about five thousand yards nine picks, like forty
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. Where did it get them? That's what I'm saying, Well, no,
Speaker 3: they did it get them.
Speaker 1: They can have that component, and they can have a
Speaker 1: defense that can tackle people, and they can have an
Speaker 1: offensive line that protects him and blast holes for any
Speaker 1: running back that's back there. Let's not let's not look
Speaker 1: at a marquee running back as part of the Bengals
Speaker 1: answer to get over the hamp Andy. It's all about defense.
Speaker 1: It's all about learning to tackle for in the open field,
Speaker 1: and it's learning to protect Joe Burrow. And they've got
Speaker 1: to have the right.
Speaker 3: Pieces of Philadelphia statement I said. I said, if you
Speaker 3: watch the blueprint of the Philadelphia Eagles, how do they win?
Speaker 3: And defensive play line, the line play.
Speaker 2: I agreed with you.
Speaker 1: So the Bengals, the Bengals need some people on the
Speaker 1: line who are like three hundred and fifty pounds with
Speaker 1: one eye in the middle of their forehead, who can
Speaker 1: actually not jump off sides or you know, offensive motion
Speaker 1: themselves out of first downs. You're right, they need a
Speaker 1: competent line and they need competent line play on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And I don't know where you
Speaker 1: shop for those, but we got to find some of
Speaker 1: those somewhere. And wait, there's people that Bengals could afford
Speaker 1: and still signed t Higgins and Jamar Chase and Trey Hendry.
Speaker 3: No, No, they could sign all three. There's no doubt
Speaker 3: in my mind they can. But here here's what. I
Speaker 3: really have a sore spot, a real big source spot,
Speaker 3: a whole of my stomach because of it. It makes
Speaker 3: me sick when they fired Luana Rumo. Okay, lou Ana
Speaker 3: Rumo was a scapegoat. No one's even saying anything about that.
Speaker 3: I may have heard maybe one or two people mentioned that,
Speaker 3: But lou Anna Rumo was a scapegoat for the downfall
Speaker 3: of the Bengals defense. And I don't see it getting
Speaker 3: much better next year. And it hurts me because he's
Speaker 3: a hell of a guy. He was a hell of
Speaker 3: a coach. He was up for several head coaching spots
Speaker 3: several years ago, and now all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 3: an idiot. It doesn't work that way. Well, given the
Speaker 3: players Joe Burrow was crying about give me players to
Speaker 3: work with, No, Louiana Rumo is the one who should
Speaker 3: have been crying give me players to work with. It's wrong,
Speaker 3: That's where it should have been.
Speaker 1: You are absolutely right in so many ways, and you
Speaker 1: are fatally wrong in another way. You know as well
Speaker 1: as I do that the NFL Professional Sports is a
Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 2: Business?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and lou Anmo was hailed is gonna be
Speaker 1: the next big head coach somewhere because of the brilliant
Speaker 1: defensive job he had done with the Cincinnati Bengals. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, you got to continue that excellence or
Speaker 1: you lose your luster. That the bloom goes off the
Speaker 1: roads real fast in that league.
Speaker 2: And you know that.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you something else. I really believe in
Speaker 3: my heart of hearts that sometimes coaches getting fired and
Speaker 3: moves like that more so to appease the fan base
Speaker 3: than a piece maybe the media as well than anybody else,
Speaker 3: because they had to make some sort of a move
Speaker 3: if the two bad seasons not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So they chucked Louis on Romo's head off and now
Speaker 3: everybody's happy because he's not there because the defense stunk. Well,
Speaker 3: the defense be any better with the same players, No,
Speaker 3: But I think that they're afraid of losing to good
Speaker 3: holders and media respect and media I guess, publicity backlash,
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. So someone has to pay the price.
Speaker 3: And they're not going to fire Zach Taylor because he's
Speaker 3: got several years on his contract and the Bengals notoriously
Speaker 3: will never fire a guy and pay for it. And
Speaker 3: I'm working that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1: All this discussion about firings brings up something else. I
Speaker 1: know all of us if you've been in this business
Speaker 1: as long as I have, as long as you have, Andy,
Speaker 1: firing or getting fired is always a possibility, and everybody
Speaker 1: goes through it. Anybody that's any damn good at all
Speaker 1: in this business has at one time or another in
Speaker 1: their career been fired.
Speaker 3: And no doubt, and I know, so do I.
Speaker 2: So do I.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it's it's a necessary thing, and
Speaker 1: it's not always a bad thing sometimes getting fired, in
Speaker 1: fact most times. In my case, I know every time
Speaker 1: that I've been fired in radio, I was better the
Speaker 1: next time around. I learned from that. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: lou Anarumo is learning wonderful lessons right now and he's
Speaker 1: going to land on his feet and he won't make
Speaker 1: any mistakes that he made this time around. Well, because
Speaker 1: of right exactly, he's gonna be.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be.
Speaker 1: He's going to be better than he was with the
Speaker 1: Bengals because of that. Failure breed success always, Andy, And
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you fail, and it's not your fault.
Speaker 1: But this was a blessing from God that.
Speaker 3: You comparing apples and oranges, because in football there's a barometer.
Speaker 3: You could see how you failed. The defense stunk and
Speaker 3: they were lower. The lower.
Speaker 2: There's a barometer, it's called the ratings. It's called the.
Speaker 3: How did you get fired in radio?
Speaker 1: Well, for reason, Well, the first time I was just
Speaker 1: a young, dumb kid and I got set up and
Speaker 1: it really wasn't my fault, but it really was because
Speaker 1: I wasn't wise enough to see it coming and get
Speaker 1: out of the way. The second time I got fired,
Speaker 1: I got lazy, I got complacent in my job. And
Speaker 1: that was in Chattanooga nineteen eighty four. Let's see. The
Speaker 1: next time I got fired, a new company took over
Speaker 1: the radio station where I had been the number one
Speaker 1: afternoon drive disc jockey at for four straight years, and
Speaker 1: they purposely wanted to get rid of the salaries that
Speaker 1: we had, and that's where I got off. And you know,
Speaker 1: this last time that I lost my full time job
Speaker 1: in radio was in two thousand and nine, and we
Speaker 1: all knew it was coming for a year because the FCC,
Speaker 1: in coordination with the Department of Justice, said that Clear Channel,
Speaker 1: which is the name of the company at the time
Speaker 1: now it's iHeartMedia Clear Channel because they went from being
Speaker 1: a public traded company to a private fund company, they
Speaker 1: could not own as many radio stations that they as
Speaker 1: they had in the market, and they did not have
Speaker 1: the choice of which stations they had to get rid
Speaker 1: of and mine the Fox was one of those stations
Speaker 1: that they were ordered by the d o J in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Another federal bureaucracy that I hope Trump straightens out.
Speaker 2: But I was you know what, for the first time.
Speaker 1: In my career, Andy Gary Jeff Walker and intellectual property
Speaker 1: were married in the same sentence, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: And I chose not to go with the new company
Speaker 1: because I enjoyed doing talk and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: sit and babysit music anymore. And that's what I would
Speaker 1: have been relegated to doing without a chance to continue
Speaker 1: on WLW. So I really didn't get fired. I made
Speaker 1: a choice, and I feel better for that choice. So
Speaker 1: there there's I'll give you mind if you want to. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I I showed you, I showed
Speaker 1: you mind. You you show me yours love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fired twice. I was fired at an
Speaker 3: FM station was called real Uh what was the super talk?
Speaker 3: Super talk on the FM dial? And it wasn't at
Speaker 3: the office One day it wasn't that super. They called
Speaker 3: me into the office and in the December afternoon after
Speaker 3: my shift and they said, well, we're going from uh
Speaker 3: going from sports talk to country music I think it was.
Speaker 3: And that was the end of that. I was gone.
Speaker 3: And then prior to that, I was let go at
Speaker 3: the seventeen seventeen eighteen years at WLW, which is no
Speaker 3: fault of my own, because you know the ratings book,
Speaker 3: we were number one and I still have the the
Speaker 3: the evidence for it because I did the show what
Speaker 3: Chris Collins was I did. It was like something like
Speaker 3: fifty three writing books and we were like number one,
Speaker 3: fifty out of fifty three. And I was doing a
Speaker 3: Wednesday evening interview show for the Bengals with t. J.
Speaker 3: Huschman Zada. He didn't show several times, Darryl Pod I'm
Speaker 3: telling you the truth. There's a whole story which I've
Speaker 3: never gone public with.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, wait, Andy, is there an NDA associated
Speaker 1: with your your letting go? I mean you may a
Speaker 1: non disclosure agreement. You may want to be treading carefully here.
Speaker 2: No, not for legal reason.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, many people have been fired
Speaker 3: and they had to sit out six months with it
Speaker 3: and not compete. They waived that, and I was fired
Speaker 3: for there's a cause, and I know no cause. I
Speaker 3: was not fired for cause. So that tells you what happens.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. The day I was let golfrom
Speaker 3: Mill w they had like nineteen other people lost their
Speaker 3: jobs for budget cuts, so I think rather than put
Speaker 3: me in that hole, they just fired me. Let me go,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll leave it at that. So I was
Speaker 3: fired there, and you're right it worked out well because
Speaker 3: I still remain with the same company. It was clear
Speaker 3: channel then though to iHeartMedia now and would Fox Sports
Speaker 3: been with them over twelve thirteen years?
Speaker 2: So what are you griving about?
Speaker 3: Sound like it was a bad deal? Okay, it was
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, see this is the thing in life.
Speaker 1: We all run into bad deals. And life isn't fair.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not telling you anything new. You've lived
Speaker 1: longer than I have. Life is not fair, Andy Furman.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that unfairness reaches into our personal lives and
Speaker 1: smacks is around and reminds us that life isn't fair.
Speaker 1: And if we recognize, if we recognize and look at
Speaker 1: the reasons after the initial hurt and sting of it.
Speaker 1: We realize that we're better off, and it's like refining
Speaker 1: us like golds.
Speaker 3: Like you know when it happens like one door closes.
Speaker 3: You know, if it was that serious when I was
Speaker 3: like call mell w, I wouldn't have had all these goodies,
Speaker 3: you know, attached to my firing, like the six months
Speaker 3: not compete was waived.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I went to the other stage, I went to super Talk.
Speaker 3: From there, I went directly to super Talk, and they
Speaker 3: allowed me to take some of my sponsors with me
Speaker 3: from WLW super Talk. So it was a budget cuts.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt in my mind it was.
Speaker 3: And it happened.
Speaker 1: It happens in this business, you know, and sometimes the
Speaker 1: numbers just don't make sense, no matter how good you are.
Speaker 1: And then you know, it could happen to me anytime.
Speaker 1: It may happen after this show tonight, because we're airing
Speaker 1: all this dirty laundry.
Speaker 3: But I've got I mean, you see this nondisclosure. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about fifteen sixteen years ago, so I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's a point in time what just goes away talk about.
Speaker 1: Oh well, what I mean, once they stopped paying me
Speaker 1: the severance that pretty much was over.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing I got.
Speaker 1: I got severance pay for losing the job at the Fox,
Speaker 1: and I still got paid for being on WLW all
Speaker 1: in the same check.
Speaker 2: How do you figure out?
Speaker 3: Well, and I had a contract at LW which had
Speaker 3: two more years to go, and they paid me off
Speaker 3: and I was getting paid to the station.
Speaker 2: Oh you so you were double dipping? You have you have?
Speaker 2: You have nothing to complain about. I'm nothing to whine about.
Speaker 4: Andy.
Speaker 3: No, here's a thing I don't mind if I screw up,
Speaker 3: if I'm called jaywalking and I get a fine. Okay,
Speaker 3: it sucks, but I did it. I created it. I
Speaker 3: didn't create the whole situation over there. I would have
Speaker 3: been happy if if they told me that, you don't
Speaker 3: you're losing your job because the budget cuts. That would
Speaker 3: be any old scenario that I went through. And it
Speaker 3: was embarrassing because it was in the press and no
Speaker 3: one talked about it.
Speaker 1: Andy, it's a different company, it's a different even a
Speaker 1: different name. It's a different company. So you know, the
Speaker 1: people in charge now have nothing to do with what
Speaker 1: happened with Clear Channel.
Speaker 2: So let's let's put that to bed with a.
Speaker 4: Few get to this.
Speaker 2: I don't know you were talking about.
Speaker 3: I wanted to hear about it.
Speaker 1: You were talking about lou Anumo getting right right, So
Speaker 1: I talked about you know, sometimes when you get fired,
Speaker 1: it's a good thing, and this is going to be
Speaker 1: a good thing for lou Anarumo.
Speaker 3: I believe, I hope so. I like lou so any
Speaker 3: high school football in New York, and I liked.
Speaker 1: That anything else going on. I got a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes left for you.
Speaker 3: I know that, you know, I really want to I
Speaker 3: really wanted to talk about this. I saw this story.
Speaker 3: I can't take credit for it, obviously. It was in
Speaker 3: the New York Times on Sunday, late Sunday in January,
Speaker 3: I think January twenty sixth.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: I ripped it out and I wanted to talk to
Speaker 3: you about the idea of college is offering a degree
Speaker 3: in athletics, and it's starting to gain momentum. It's an
Speaker 3: educated but David Hollander a clinical professor of New York
Speaker 3: University School of Professional Studies. He spent years exposing the
Speaker 3: intellectual value of basketball. Position less play, he says can
Speaker 3: teach entrepreneurial thinking and fast breaks can teach interpersonal communication.
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable, and I think it's not a bad
Speaker 3: idea college is offering a degree in athletics.
Speaker 2: Slit my wrist.
Speaker 1: That's like like women's studies or comparative literature or some
Speaker 1: other god awful inapplicable skill for life kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So if do the athletes who are getting to the
Speaker 1: degree in athletics, do they actually go to class and
Speaker 1: take tests and go to symposiums or is it just
Speaker 1: going into practice and play the games.
Speaker 3: No, when you think of athletics, you're thinking, I know,
Speaker 3: when you are Mane, you're saying the dumb job. But
Speaker 3: you can get a degree right now and higher education
Speaker 3: and dance and art and music and drama, and I
Speaker 3: think that those are totally valid degrees and there's maybe
Speaker 3: portals into human conditions. And I think, no, athletics, there's
Speaker 3: no different than athletics.
Speaker 1: You're you're misquoting me from somewhere down the line. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're dumb jocks. I think there are a
Speaker 1: lot of smart jocks. And most of them go to
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt and Stanford and Northwest. I know, And yeah, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of smart jockice.
Speaker 3: I'm Columbia, the school I went to.
Speaker 1: But most smart jocks aren't aren't taking their major in
Speaker 1: general studies or criminal justice.
Speaker 2: Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 3: Look, I will tell you this much. I don't know
Speaker 3: what they're majoring in. But when I watch these games
Speaker 3: on TV, and I was watching the Saint John's game
Speaker 3: because creating on Sunday, and they had one player who
Speaker 3: has gone out to three different school as I followed
Speaker 3: his career, went to Syracuse, went the Seaton Hall. Now
Speaker 3: he's playing for Saint John's. I mean really, I mean, so,
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's majoring in. If he's even
Speaker 3: majoring in. He's probably a major in athletics.
Speaker 1: He's probably an aspiring neuroscientist, dandy.
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
Speaker 3: We can make funnel we want, but I think the
Speaker 3: entire system is broken. So really, I really believe that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I at one point in time wanted to
Speaker 3: transfer for a different major at a different school. They
Speaker 3: told me I lose thirty credit. I was I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it, so I stayed. I just it's
Speaker 3: just it doesn't make any sense. And there were times
Speaker 3: when people would transfer from one school to another they'd
Speaker 3: sit out a year. These kids don't even sit out
Speaker 3: of the year. I think there's something wrong with the system.
Speaker 3: It really and that's why these coaches right now are
Speaker 3: basically packing it up and leading. Why are they doing that?
Speaker 3: Because in years past, they go to a high school,
Speaker 3: talked to a kids, they want to come play for
Speaker 3: people again. The kid would say yeah, and the kid
Speaker 3: would say, well I start. Will I play all we
Speaker 3: on TV? What's the schedule? That was the question. Now
Speaker 3: the kid says, hey, how much am I getting? How
Speaker 3: much that the chip?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 3: It's terrible?
Speaker 2: All right, listen conversation for another time.
Speaker 3: They should.
Speaker 1: We've wasted most of the time talking about you getting fired.
Speaker 1: So I got to go.
Speaker 3: You did, you did, but you got fired more than me.
Speaker 3: So you did. I only got fired twice. You gotta
Speaker 3: fire like six times.
Speaker 2: Three times? Really three times.
Speaker 3: After the show. You'll be fired.
Speaker 4: You'll be fired.
Speaker 3: After the show.
Speaker 2: Andy, have a good night, pleasant dreams. All right, get off.
Speaker 4: My thank you.
Speaker 1: Elw And joining us once again is the CEO of
Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile LLC, Lee Walms Guns, who is in North
Speaker 1: Texas and just one of the top five power players
Speaker 1: there and has been following Tom Holman and ICE's progress
Speaker 1: and the hindrances that are being put up the roadblocks
Speaker 1: by officials in these so called sanctuary cities who do
Speaker 1: not want to adhere to the federal laws when it
Speaker 1: comes to illegal immigration. Ice has again, in some instances,
Speaker 1: run into some pretty bad obstructions of justice. In Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: Ice Boston arrested in illegal alien from Guatemala multiple charges
Speaker 1: relating to child rape. He was released for one reason only,
Speaker 1: sanctuary policy, so he was back out in the community
Speaker 1: and not where ICE could find him to deport him.
Speaker 1: Ice Boston also arrested an illegal alien from Turkey for
Speaker 1: assaulting a mentally disabled person. Ice ordered that local jail
Speaker 1: to further detain him, but were ignored. Ice Seattle arrested
Speaker 1: another illegal alien from Salvador, where he's wanted for aggravated homicide.
Speaker 1: In la Ice arrested another Guatemala and illegal charged with
Speaker 1: sexual assault and rape while possessing a gun in Colorado.
Speaker 1: The top ten arrested illegal aliens were posted to the Internet.
Speaker 1: Many of them are from a deadly South American gang
Speaker 1: trende at Ragua. You may have heard about that. Lee
Speaker 1: Walms Gance this obstruction is not going to last. I
Speaker 1: think that Christy Nome and the Department of Justice and
Speaker 1: Tom Holman are serious people. They have a mission, they
Speaker 1: have a mandate, and they are pursuing that regardless of
Speaker 1: all of the things that stand in their way. I
Speaker 1: still appreciate their efforts so far because they've been amazing.
Speaker 1: When nothing was being done before, now something's actually being done.
Speaker 1: Your comments on any or all of.
Speaker 5: This, well, I think borders are Tom Homan needs to
Speaker 5: be on the cover of every magazine as maybe the
Speaker 5: sexiest man alive right now because Texans are loving how
Speaker 5: he's helping us. I mean, he is serious about this.
Speaker 5: He knows you. As a former border agent, he's seen
Speaker 5: the crime and the cartels and the corruption that comes
Speaker 5: across the border. And in the last forty eight hours
Speaker 5: he's had a couple of fabulous tweets that Americans should
Speaker 5: feel good about. But at the same time, like I say,
Speaker 5: with everything with our win in November, this work.
Speaker 6: Has just begune. He posted.
Speaker 5: In the last twenty four hours, US Border patrol has
Speaker 5: encountered a total of two twenty nine aliens across the
Speaker 5: entire Southwest border. That is down from a high of
Speaker 5: over eleven thousand a day under Biden. He also posts
Speaker 5: interior arrest by eyes have increased more than one hundred
Speaker 5: and thirty seven percent under President Trump. Arrest of aliens
Speaker 5: with criminal convictions have doubled under President Trump. The rest
Speaker 5: of illegal gang members has also doubled. I'm sure you're
Speaker 5: aware of the trenda ragua them taking over that apartment
Speaker 5: complex in Colorado, that took over an apartment complex in Texas,
Speaker 5: which Texas Operation Lone Star folks were trying to root
Speaker 5: them out. In all of this, all of this stems
Speaker 5: from the Biden open border policies. Just this week in
Speaker 5: New York, a trans migrant was charged with raping a
Speaker 5: fourteen year old boy and a New York City bathroom. Now,
Speaker 5: the thing about this trans migrant, he just because you
Speaker 5: put on a trust doesn't make you a girl.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: He was already wanted in New Jersey, Massachusetts and had
Speaker 5: an ice detainer. But because of these sanctuary cities, counties,
Speaker 5: and states, this person was still out there for you.
Speaker 5: This goes to show you that President Trump and borders
Speaker 5: are home and are correct when they tell liberal New
Speaker 5: York City officials to get these violent people out.
Speaker 1: Well, just this past week, Pam Bondi, the new Attorney General,
Speaker 1: filed suits against Kathy Hochel, against Letitia James, against these
Speaker 1: officials in these states, lawsuits because of these illegal sanctuary policies.
Speaker 1: This is going to run through the court system, and
Speaker 1: I just have a really good feeling Lee that the
Speaker 1: courts are going to say, you know, you have to
Speaker 1: follow the federal directive of this. There are no loopholes
Speaker 1: for this. It is hindering it. It's harboring fugitives, violent fugitives.
Speaker 6: It absolutely is.
Speaker 2: That's all it is is.
Speaker 5: Even in Texas, you know our state, our governor announced
Speaker 5: our Senate Bill four was signed September went into effects
Speaker 5: September first, twenty seventeen, saying that the sanctuary cities are
Speaker 5: not allowed in Texas. But even then we still had
Speaker 5: some of these liberal cities, you know, having sanctuary city
Speaker 5: problems in Texas. US Border Patrol released suspects due to
Speaker 5: Biden's policy in March and then June sixteenth, twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four and illegal Venezuela and alien learned lord twelve year
Speaker 5: old Joscelyn Hungary under that Houston Bridge where they sexually
Speaker 5: assaulted her for twelve hours and then strangled her and
Speaker 5: dumbed her body in Harris County Value. Those suspects are
Speaker 5: now charged with capital murder. They're two illegal aliens from Venezuela,
Speaker 5: and you know they had been apprehended much earlier but released.
Speaker 1: It's unfathomable that we as American citizens have our freedom
Speaker 1: of movement restricted and yet illegal aliens, people we know
Speaker 1: nothing about. Many of them are criminals, are terrorists. In
Speaker 1: some cases. Our drug runners and human traffickers were able
Speaker 1: to move about freely in the country for four years
Speaker 1: as more and more flocked in thanks to the Biden welcome.
Speaker 1: Matt I heard an interview earlier today with Andy Biggs,
Speaker 1: who's a Congressman from Arizona. You may know of him,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about a conversation he had with
Speaker 1: Tom Holman just over the weekend. They need Congress to
Speaker 1: act because they are running out of money. ICE does
Speaker 1: not have the funds needed to do their job, and
Speaker 1: so Congress keeps on saying, well, you've got to have
Speaker 1: Congress approved, you've got to have the legislative branch get
Speaker 1: involved for some of this stuff, or else it's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: We're to constitutional crisis. Well, Congress needs to act right
Speaker 1: now so I's mission can be fulfilled and the people's choice,
Speaker 1: the people's mandate that they gave President Trump based on
Speaker 1: what he was campaigning on, which he is fully fledged
Speaker 1: promised to do and has been doing since the inauguration day.
Speaker 1: But they need the cash to continue because they are
Speaker 1: severely underfunded. And while we've got all kinds of money
Speaker 1: going for transgender plays around the world through USAID, let's
Speaker 1: concentrate on getting the job done that the American people
Speaker 1: elected this president to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just some financials of that.
Speaker 5: When you talk about the money, I love how Tom
Speaker 5: Holman says he's not putting up with it, and Pam
Speaker 5: Bondy is taking incredible aggressive action. But think about the
Speaker 5: logistics of it and these sanctuary counties and sanctuary cities.
Speaker 5: And Tom Holman said this in an article last week.
Speaker 5: It's less efficient to arrest a bad guy in public
Speaker 5: or he's hiding from us, and we're trying to arrest
Speaker 5: them on his turf rather than arrest them in a
Speaker 5: county jail where they should be sitting there on ice detainer.
Speaker 5: This is where Tom says, if they're in a county jail,
Speaker 5: it takes one agent to go in and get the
Speaker 5: guy on the ICE detainer. If they're out in public,
Speaker 5: it takes a whole team of these ICE.
Speaker 6: Agents to go get somebody.
Speaker 5: So you get down to the financials of it, and
Speaker 5: that makes perfect sense, and that is how these sanctuary
Speaker 5: counties and states are affecting our national ice budget. And
Speaker 5: the states should be number one, not get one penny
Speaker 5: of federal funding if they are.
Speaker 6: Trying to allow this sanctuary stuff.
Speaker 5: But also they need to be paying back the federal
Speaker 5: government if they're causing this scenario that I just described,
Speaker 5: the multiple ized teams to have to come in do
Speaker 5: the job where it should just take one agent to
Speaker 5: go get the bad guy who is in jail for
Speaker 5: criminal activity and one guy take them out.
Speaker 1: Lee Wams Guns has always great stuff, and thank you
Speaker 1: for being here to talk about this. It's an ongoing deal,
Speaker 1: but we are speeding as quickly as we can towards
Speaker 1: the mission of getting criminals, illegal criminals who are not
Speaker 1: citizens of this country out of this country.
Speaker 2: And that is their primary mission right now.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and this has just begune everyone. No one needs
Speaker 5: to rest because we want in November. While we have
Speaker 5: been going on warp speed, President Trump has been progressing
Speaker 5: and warp speed, doing amazing things. Every citizen needs to
Speaker 5: know this is a marathon and we need to keep going.
Speaker 5: The second we take our eye off the ball, the
Speaker 5: Democrats come back and implement these very dangerous policies again.
Speaker 6: So we can never stop our activism right and we need.
Speaker 1: To codify the immigration law so the next president, whoever
Speaker 1: he or she may be, cannot just open up the
Speaker 1: floodgates again.
Speaker 2: Lee walmsconce, thank you so much, take.
Speaker 6: Care, thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: God bless, God bless.
Speaker 1: It's a nightcap and we roll on with Max McGuire
Speaker 1: next Wires show. He's Masters of Political Science from Villanova,
Speaker 1: author of the Conservative's Guide to Winning Arguments book series.
Speaker 1: He's been involved in fundraising and campaigns for over ten years.
Speaker 1: Also a policy fellow at the Millennial Policy Center and
Speaker 1: served on the board of directors for First Choice Pregnancy
Speaker 1: Services in Las Vegas, the busiest pro life pregnancy center
Speaker 1: in the country. In fact, in just a little while,
Speaker 1: I'll have the Reverend Jim Harden, who leads Compasscare Us
Speaker 1: USA that also does wonderful things with pro life pregnancy
Speaker 1: measures and their centers around the country as well.
Speaker 7: But Max, welcome to the Nightcabine, Jim, Jim. Jim is wonderful,
Speaker 7: and Jim is a good friend. He's great, He really
Speaker 7: is wonderful. And you got two kids of your own
Speaker 7: and now you're on the shows. It's great to have
Speaker 7: you back. Let's talk doze for a few minutes, and
Speaker 7: let me just start with this. I've often asked the
Speaker 7: question for probably twenty years, and maybe it's just a
Speaker 7: naive a sense of night naivete that I have about
Speaker 7: how things work in quotation marks in our federal government.
Speaker 7: But why can't the United States government operate like a business?
Speaker 7: And the answer I most usually get is, oh, you
Speaker 7: can't do that with government. I'm like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 7: aren't we all shareholders? If we're legal citizens of the
Speaker 7: United States and we're tax payers, aren't we in effect
Speaker 7: shareholders of the government of buy for the people? And
Speaker 7: isn't Donald Trump the new CEO? And is he not
Speaker 7: in charge.
Speaker 1: Of making tough decisions with where our money is going?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: People also they forget sometimes Max, that the money that
Speaker 1: is in Washington is not their money.
Speaker 2: It's ours.
Speaker 1: So why shouldn't we expect transparency when we ask for
Speaker 1: the treasurer's report at the board meeting?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't all the books be open?
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Elon Musk and Doze you're doing
Speaker 1: under the watchful of the CEO or President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Am I off track?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 8: Tell me why in a perfect world that's how it
Speaker 8: would work. I think what's become very obvious is we
Speaker 8: don't live in a perfect world, and the system is
Speaker 8: designed to not allow this type of transparency, not allow
Speaker 8: this type of accountability. Yeah, Donald Trump is the CEO,
Speaker 8: but he's bound by the bylaws obviously, the Constitution and
Speaker 8: the budgets that are passed by Congress. We're seeing this
Speaker 8: play out in courts. Donald Trump's trying to take down
Speaker 8: gender study stuff off of the website and of courses,
Speaker 8: saying no, you can't Congress authorize.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 8: So, if we're going to get out of this mess,
Speaker 8: and we're going to get past these court hearings and
Speaker 8: lawsuits and actually start gutting it, Congress is going to
Speaker 8: have to get involved because they're coming up on a
Speaker 8: deadline to pass a new spending bill. And I don't know,
Speaker 8: if you look, they don't seem to be working nights,
Speaker 8: working weekends. I guarantee you they don't have a new
Speaker 8: spending package written. They're probably just going to try and
Speaker 8: run it back with a continuing resolution and omnibus and
Speaker 8: a continuing resolution basically just says, hey, the way we
Speaker 8: did it last year, let's just do it again. Well,
Speaker 8: what's the point of cutting all this money if there's
Speaker 8: a very high likelihood Congress is going to refund it
Speaker 8: in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But these agencies that Congress approved to have these funds,
Speaker 1: basically we're given a blank check for whatever they deemed that.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to have three branches of government executive, legislative,
Speaker 1: and judicial. We're not supposed to have an administrative branch.
Speaker 1: That's nowhere in the Constitution. It was not envisioned, it
Speaker 1: was not part of the plan. It's time that we
Speaker 1: do whittle down that administrative BRDGE and either eliminate it
Speaker 1: or hold them accountable and make them specifically say this
Speaker 1: is where the money is going that's been approved by Congress,
Speaker 1: and that's what's going on right.
Speaker 9: Now in the perfect world.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but the reason that the administrative state has grown
Speaker 8: is because Congress has.
Speaker 9: Grown lazier and lazier. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 8: They're supposed to say where the money goes, but they're
Speaker 8: not really doing it. They're not doing it with any
Speaker 8: high level of specificity. They're saying, Hey, we want to
Speaker 8: spend money on this administrative state. You decide where it goes,
Speaker 8: and then a bunch of bureaucrats in the back room decide.
Speaker 8: That's how we end up paying ten million dollars for
Speaker 8: voluntary circumcisions in Africa. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 8: you saw that. What really struck me is the voluntary
Speaker 8: that seems like it should go without saying. That makes
Speaker 8: me wonder if they're funding involuntary ones.
Speaker 9: But you get that craziness.
Speaker 8: Congress would never vote for that, that would never pass
Speaker 8: committee or subcommittee. But when you give the blank check
Speaker 8: to the administrative state and they're able to just say, oh,
Speaker 8: what should we spend this money on, you get crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, and many people in Congress, you know, are their life,
Speaker 1: lifetime politicians.
Speaker 2: That's all they do.
Speaker 1: And they're supposed to be citizen lawmakers, by the way,
Speaker 1: according to the Constitution, in a perfect world, as you mentioned.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing the country is is a maturity
Speaker 1: people in this country. Many of these are eighty twenty
Speaker 1: issues so called, and there's certainly sixty forty issues, and
Speaker 1: people want this. The Americans that I talk to want
Speaker 1: this done. They want this hollowing out of this overbloated
Speaker 1: bureautic state, bureaucratic state, the administrative state. And if they
Speaker 1: if their congress member doesn't act, bye gosh, they got
Speaker 1: to be they got to be primary, they got to
Speaker 1: be gotten out of there in a district that's going
Speaker 1: to vote read anyway, You've got to get people on
Speaker 1: board with the program.
Speaker 9: Max, Oh, the people support this one hundred percent. You're right.
Speaker 8: And I think that's what makes the democrats positions so
Speaker 8: very confusing. Right, They're kind of flopping around like a
Speaker 8: fish out of water. All the plays, the playbooks, the
Speaker 8: focus group tested lines.
Speaker 9: They're not working. So what are they doing.
Speaker 8: They're out in the street protesting to save foreign aid. Right,
Speaker 8: No American wants I mean, there's some farn aid.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 8: But if you go back to your constituents and say,
Speaker 8: I work really hard in DC. I fought to make
Speaker 8: sure your tax dollars went overseas.
Speaker 9: They're going to get voted out. I mean, they're so
Speaker 9: out of.
Speaker 8: Their element with this Trumps second term that they don't
Speaker 8: even realize that they're just digging a hole deeper for themselves.
Speaker 8: And I think the reason that they're doing this because
Speaker 8: there's no real political calculation to this. I think the
Speaker 8: reason you're seeing them take these steps is because their
Speaker 8: financial livelihoods on the line. I would suspect there might
Speaker 8: be some corruption cases that might stem out of these things. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but they're not doing this out of political expediency. They're
Speaker 8: doing it out of trying to save their their own skin.
Speaker 2: They're doing it out of abject fear. Max. You're right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the gravy.
Speaker 1: Train is running, it's stopping at the station and it's
Speaker 1: not unloading any gravy. And when that happens, then they
Speaker 1: simply go away and at least I could pray.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I think that the most of the legal people I've
Speaker 1: heard as far as the lawsuit challenges to what DOGE
Speaker 1: is doing, are going to be won by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: And that is refreshing. That's the good news, that's the
Speaker 1: positive side. But you're right, Congress has to act, and
Speaker 1: they have to act now.
Speaker 8: They do, and I think Trump eventually wins. But the
Speaker 8: goal that the last the Administry of State wants is
Speaker 8: they want these judges to basically put a stay on
Speaker 8: the freeze, which they've done to give the administrative time,
Speaker 8: State time to push the money out the door.
Speaker 9: Once you push the money out the door, it's going
Speaker 9: to be really hard to get it back.
Speaker 8: You might be able to claw back some of it, right,
Speaker 8: but once it's out the door in Stent, it's gone.
Speaker 8: I mean, I saw one guy on TV crying about
Speaker 8: his wife. She has an NGO and they lost a
Speaker 8: million dollar grant. You dig into what this NNGO does.
Speaker 8: It teaches like peasants and like and like villagers in Afghanistan,
Speaker 8: modern art.
Speaker 9: I mean, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Well, Max, we'll we'll we'll see it sorted out in
Speaker 1: front of us, and we hope that Congress does get
Speaker 1: their act together.
Speaker 2: Finally.
Speaker 1: Uh, I think that Donald Trump and and Elon Musk
Speaker 1: have their acts together, and that is scaring the bejeebers
Speaker 1: out of a whole lot of people who are tied
Speaker 1: to that gravy train we were talking about, Max, maguire,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll have a chance to talk again soon.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Thanks for having me you bet.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Reverend Jim Harden will be on the
Speaker 1: other side of the break and uh, we have we
Speaker 1: have more to go, plus my friend doctor John Hubert
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time on the
Speaker 1: nightcap coming up. You know, you only call people that
Speaker 1: can help.
Speaker 2: You when you're in times of need.
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, and maybe this this is I'm guilty
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But it's been a long time to talk to my
Speaker 1: favorite forensic psychologist. I mean, he's he's been number one
Speaker 1: on the list for years. In fact, I don't even
Speaker 1: know who. I don't even know who's number two. Uh,
Speaker 1: doctor John Huber, Uh, the man who who taught us
Speaker 1: about ketamine.
Speaker 2: And it's uh, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good to you know, effects on people with dealing
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, chronic pain and anxiety and.
Speaker 2: Myriad of other issues.
Speaker 1: But tonight, doctor, I come to you as a doctor, Uh,
Speaker 1: not just I don't need a ketymine infusion or treatment,
Speaker 1: but that that may be forthcoming. I don't know Uh,
Speaker 1: my wife and I and and you know us Chris
Speaker 1: two point zero dealing with the loss of Garth Brooks
Speaker 1: or Brooksy the cat dog. And yeah, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to talk not about my pain and suffering, but what
Speaker 1: people go through and as a psychologist, what do you
Speaker 1: do for them?
Speaker 2: But how do you help people who are going through
Speaker 2: this loss?
Speaker 1: Because it is in many cases it's just as as
Speaker 1: though you had lost a child or a mom or
Speaker 1: a dad, you know, a close family member, because that's
Speaker 1: what they are ultimately to most of us who have
Speaker 1: them family members. So I know, I know you've probably
Speaker 1: I know you've probably dealt with this too in your personal.
Speaker 10: Life, absolutely, and you know they are family members. In fact,
Speaker 10: you know, there's there's this research you know how everyone's swaw.
Speaker 10: A parent will call their kid by their pet's name,
Speaker 10: and there's actual psychological reasons why they do that, because
Speaker 10: you've incorporated that pet into your family so much so
Speaker 10: that by doing that, you're not just you're not just
Speaker 10: honoring your kid by calling your your your animal or
Speaker 10: the kid the animal's name. You're actually honoring the animal too,
Speaker 10: because you're saying that that that animal is now a
Speaker 10: legitimate family member, not just because they're your pet, but
Speaker 10: because they belong. And when you when you take something
Speaker 10: that that you cherish and you brought them into your heart,
Speaker 10: into your family and your soul, you're gonna have all
Speaker 10: the stages of you know, loss like Koble ross the
Speaker 10: stages of death and dying. Now, not everybody goes through
Speaker 10: every single stage, and I know there's there's psychologists that
Speaker 10: will argue that, but I've I've worked with many people
Speaker 10: who've lost family members and kids and parents, and and
Speaker 10: not everybody does in my experience, but we expect them
Speaker 10: to go through that at least some sort.
Speaker 4: You know, you go through and.
Speaker 10: You're angry, and you're in denial and you know, and
Speaker 10: you go through the different stages of depression and then
Speaker 10: you come to acceptance.
Speaker 1: Unless unless you're unless you're a total social pet.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, but but then what happens is you go
Speaker 10: through that same series of emotions.
Speaker 4: If you're a sociopath for certain anatimate.
Speaker 10: Objects, whether it's a car, a weapon, a gun, an eye,
Speaker 10: something like that, Uh.
Speaker 4: You can go through that same same series.
Speaker 10: So you know that that's that's one of the things
Speaker 10: that people think is sociopaths don't have emotions. They do,
Speaker 10: they're just not attached to appropriate what we would consider
Speaker 10: human normal objects. They're they're they're things, not people, right exactly.
Speaker 10: Uh So, how did you deal with the loss of
Speaker 10: your last pet?
Speaker 3: Doc? Was there?
Speaker 1: Was there a lot of you know, is there a
Speaker 1: bourbon involved?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 9: No, it's actually kind of interesting.
Speaker 10: I was in New York City and I was literally
Speaker 10: getting on my plane and my wife calls me in
Speaker 10: there at the vet and they they put our cat down.
Speaker 4: The cat.
Speaker 10: Cat was in misery and not nothing we could do.
Speaker 10: And so my kids and my wife they they stayed
Speaker 10: with the pet and I'm flying back. I get in
Speaker 10: like eleven thirty, and they saved the pet for me.
Speaker 10: So I've got the pet and the pet and I
Speaker 10: we actually drove out right then at you know, midnight
Speaker 10: with a dear friend of mine, Ray Burnett, and we
Speaker 10: drove out to our deer lease and we went down
Speaker 10: about one hundred yards from where our deer lease was,
Speaker 10: and we dug a deep hole and had a service
Speaker 10: and all that kind of stuff, you know, just very
Speaker 10: personal and quiet and quick. And it's interesting every time
Speaker 10: I go out to the you know, I take my
Speaker 10: little walk out by the by the pet and talk
Speaker 10: talk to the cat and check on it, and you know,
Speaker 10: it's it's interesting, how you know, I have great sympathy
Speaker 10: for loss, but I've found a way to kind of
Speaker 10: keep my pet in our family. And we rescued a
Speaker 10: puppy who had a boxer who had been abused severely
Speaker 10: and was over two years old when we got her,
Speaker 10: and the dog had never been socialized, and our cat
Speaker 10: socialized the dog. So to this day, I mean, the
Speaker 10: dog's sitting there at the front of my seat right now, sleeping.
Speaker 10: But to this day, when the dog is excited, she
Speaker 10: and happy, she growls because the cat taught her to
Speaker 10: purr when you're in a good mood.
Speaker 1: So that is the dog's purr is a growl, and
Speaker 1: he's not getting ready to attack. He just he thinks
Speaker 1: he's imitating the purr of the cat. That's wild. So
Speaker 1: you have a dog cat, I had a cat dog,
Speaker 1: so right, exactly exactly, So Friday this past Friday, I
Speaker 1: was on the air for Scott's Loan and I got
Speaker 1: the text from my wife, I have to rush Brooksy
Speaker 1: to the vet. And I'm like, why, because he hadn't
Speaker 1: shown any signs of any kind of distress. We didn't
Speaker 1: know he was sick. We had no idea that anything
Speaker 1: was wrong. And as I'm on the air, I find
Speaker 1: out that the cat that Brooksy has passed away in
Speaker 1: the vet's office. No, so I didn't even get a
Speaker 1: chance to have that last connection with the pet. She
Speaker 1: brought to Brooksy home, and I did a little service,
Speaker 1: dug a hole and buried him in the sideyard next
Speaker 1: to our other other house cat that died eight years
Speaker 1: ago that Brooksy replaced.
Speaker 2: Not that you can ever replace him. So, so you want.
Speaker 1: To talk about really being hung on a line and
Speaker 1: not being prepared for anything like that, And I just
Speaker 1: suggest that I don't know what would have been harder
Speaker 1: him being sick for months and slowly declining or just
Speaker 1: this sudden sudden death cardiac arrest that we dealt with.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's interesting because with my patients, I
Speaker 10: actually deal with this and their family member's death, you know,
Speaker 10: going through death and dying issues, and.
Speaker 4: You know that's a tough call.
Speaker 10: I know a lot of family members want to keep
Speaker 10: that person with them no matter what, but oftentimes that
Speaker 10: family person has been my patient for a long time,
Speaker 10: and they're asking me to tell their family let them go,
Speaker 10: let them go, let them go, what fightings are. They're ready,
Speaker 10: they're you know, they've made their their amends to this
Speaker 10: world and they're ready to move on whatever's next. And
Speaker 10: you know, man, that puts me in a hard place.
Speaker 10: I do always express the wishes of my patient, but
Speaker 10: I don't force I mean, you know, it's not my
Speaker 10: place to do that.
Speaker 4: It's it's the family's decision. And you know, I hope and.
Speaker 10: Hopefully they do take their loved ones feelings who's dying
Speaker 10: in consideration. But you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 10: You know, we lost my wife's uncle just a few
Speaker 10: weeks ago and we had the service last weekend. Actually
Speaker 10: that's kind of interesting that Black Brooksy was expired at
Speaker 10: that point too. But you know, I'm listening to all
Speaker 10: these people say things about this person, and all I
Speaker 10: can think of having been close to death before and
Speaker 10: ICU for over eighteen days and like that, and what
Speaker 10: helped me in the hospital was all the things those
Speaker 10: people were saying about that person, and then they would
Speaker 10: close it up by I wish I'd said it to
Speaker 10: them when they're alive.
Speaker 4: And when I was in ICU, that's what I was getting.
Speaker 10: Man, I was getting inundated with people telling me all
Speaker 10: this stuff about how much they appreciated me. You know,
Speaker 10: pat patience I hadn't seen over twenty years found out
Speaker 10: and we're texting and even voice messages.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 10: And man, my doctor at one point said, I don't
Speaker 10: know how you survived, and he goes, the only thing
Speaker 10: I can think of is so many people just express
Speaker 10: their love to you that you just you know, there
Speaker 10: was no way you weren't going to say.
Speaker 1: Well, I know you and I you and I had
Speaker 1: some conversations during that period of time.
Speaker 4: Absolutely and uh, absolutely wild.
Speaker 1: And when you finally got out of the hospital and
Speaker 1: could actually breathe on your own, it was it was miraculous.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, he's going through absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And I had to re learn to walk, and you know,
Speaker 10: he carried oxygen around with me forever. And you know,
Speaker 10: it's funny because last week some of my past college
Speaker 10: students invited me to go to lunch, and man, it
Speaker 10: was it was a love fest.
Speaker 4: I mean they just hugged and you know, we were crying.
Speaker 10: I mean, it was it was sad because the place
Speaker 10: was packed and our tables over there and they're happy
Speaker 10: tears and I usually, you know, what, do I deal
Speaker 10: with emotions. So I'm usually pretty good about containing my
Speaker 10: emotions because I want to follow my patience. But in
Speaker 10: this case, man, it was just it was really really
Speaker 10: embarrassing for me. So you know, it's when you love somebody,
Speaker 10: let him know. And it's not about a sex kind
Speaker 10: of thing. It's about a love for.
Speaker 4: Human and human kindness.
Speaker 3: And you know, just like.
Speaker 10: You know, I told you and Chris that you know,
Speaker 10: I love you guys, and I love it.
Speaker 2: You know, It's just it's a matter of the heart.
Speaker 4: It's an amazing thing.
Speaker 2: It's part of being human.
Speaker 1: It's part of being human, it's part of the whole
Speaker 1: life experience. And I don't think that anything was left
Speaker 1: on the table that I hadn't told Brooksy. So I
Speaker 1: feel good about that. He knew that he was loved. Good,
Speaker 1: He knew he was loved, and he knew that we'd
Speaker 1: do anything for him if we could.
Speaker 10: And you did you what that dog or that dog
Speaker 10: cat on a leash and walk your cat around.
Speaker 4: Your neighborhood, Okay, that is like so far beyond the
Speaker 4: call of duty for a cat.
Speaker 2: That is just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So one question as we finished, Doc Hubert, how are
Speaker 1: you doing now?
Speaker 2: I forgot to add, well.
Speaker 10: You know, I finally got back in after three years.
Speaker 10: I finally got back into the gym about about October,
Speaker 10: and then January hit and the place was slammed with
Speaker 10: all these people with New Year's resolutions. So we've we
Speaker 10: laid off January. We started back last week and you know,
Speaker 10: just moving ahead.
Speaker 4: I need to get to the point where I can.
Speaker 10: Actively be back at and continue to do my martial arts.
Speaker 10: That is such you know, the flexibility. I've lost so.
Speaker 4: Much of that, and it's it's it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 10: Somebody used to conduce full splits at fifty, you know,
Speaker 10: and now I'm I'm like, oh wait, is my leg
Speaker 10: too high when I was going up the stairs. I
Speaker 10: need to go back and start stretching and getting that going.
Speaker 10: So other than that, I think I'm doing great.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 10: My my brain's functioning pretty good. You know that's important.
Speaker 10: And you know, we're just moving right along and just
Speaker 10: keeping our family going and staying in touch with our
Speaker 10: friends like you and.
Speaker 4: Krista, and I'm just you know, I'm just amazed and
Speaker 4: happy to be alive.
Speaker 10: Legitimately, I'm not I'm not being narcissistic or anything else
Speaker 10: like that.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful place.
Speaker 1: Well you are as always amazing, and thank you for
Speaker 1: just being there. You didn't give me any great advice,
Speaker 1: but you know what just hearing your voice did wonders
Speaker 1: for my healing, and well.
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know how I don't want to
Speaker 10: shift into therapy while we're on the air. I just
Speaker 10: you know, and that's you know, since I know you personally,
Speaker 10: I just I intentionally kind of stayed away from telling
Speaker 10: you to do very specific things.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, here, here's the thing, doc, Doc, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. As I said, just talking to you is
Speaker 1: therapy for me. Every time we talk. Awesome and I
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much. I appreciate your friendship and your
Speaker 1: love and uh, your availability. Uh and you as always
Speaker 1: are amazing.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Doctor.
Speaker 10: You know, don't don't don't jump off and take the
Speaker 10: first cat that comes along, Okay, to give yourself some
Speaker 10: time to grieve and you'll be fine.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're doing that.
Speaker 1: Week and we the knee jerk was to go to
Speaker 1: the animal shelter this past weekend.
Speaker 2: We did not do that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so we're gonna wait a little while longer. Anyway,
Speaker 1: need need a need a furry face in the window.
Speaker 10: Brother, Absolutely absolutely, And you know, I I know when
Speaker 10: my puppy goes, I'm just going to be crushed. H
Speaker 10: I'm more attached to this, this animal that I've got
Speaker 10: right here in front of me than I can remember
Speaker 10: since maybe you know my first dog, Macaroni, when I
Speaker 10: was about seven, died, you know.
Speaker 1: Right right, I remember Macaroni. I will be will I
Speaker 1: will be available for you when and if that happens. Doc, Uh,
Speaker 1: just like you're always there for me. Thank you, Doctor
Speaker 1: John Huber. On the Nightcap, a bonus phone call on
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W organization do from a legal
Speaker 1: standpoint and from a practical standpoint for women in distress
Speaker 1: dealing with a pregnancy, and uh it's a great option
Speaker 1: and they offer lots of great options besides killing the baby.
Speaker 1: Compasscare USA is the name of that organization, and the
Speaker 1: man behind it is Reverend Jim Hardin, who's back on
Speaker 1: the Nightcap. Reverend Jim, It's wonderful to talk to you again.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 11: I'm doing really well.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me back as an honor.
Speaker 1: I understand that in New York State you are running
Speaker 1: for the US House of Representatives in the twenty first
Speaker 1: district in the in Congress. What's going on there? Tell
Speaker 1: me about this effort and why you decided to throw
Speaker 1: your hat into the ring.
Speaker 11: Yes, so the rumors are true. New York's twenty first
Speaker 11: district currently is represented by Congressman at Lae Stefanic and
Speaker 11: she has been named by President Trump as the next
Speaker 11: Ambassador of the United Nations, which means that as soon
Speaker 11: as she resigned, likely in April, a special election will
Speaker 11: be called. And I have thrown my head in the
Speaker 11: ring because it's right. Not only is it right in
Speaker 11: my backyard, but I've been fighting liberal corruption in government
Speaker 11: for twenty five years we have and right now I
Speaker 11: believe we're in a political revival of sorts and the
Speaker 11: time is ripe. We we could we could put another
Speaker 11: career politician in that position, but but is that Is
Speaker 11: this the right time for that? And my my, my
Speaker 11: thought is I'm perfect for this job at this moment
Speaker 11: in time there's only two kinds of people that run
Speaker 11: for office. There is a person that wants to make
Speaker 11: a name for themselves and there's a person who wants
Speaker 11: to do something. And I've been doing this for years.
Speaker 11: I've been fighting liberal corruption. I've been I've stood strong
Speaker 11: against domestic terrorism when we were fired, I uncovered the
Speaker 11: politization of law enforcement and had a battle with the
Speaker 11: Biden administration. I you know, fought weaponization of legislation when
Speaker 11: they targeted us by New York local target sorry New
Speaker 11: York Governor Hocal tart Us. We've been fighting law fair
Speaker 11: New York training anal Letitia James suit us. I mean,
Speaker 11: this is the kind of thing that we know all about,
Speaker 11: and we're we're rooting out corruption as we speak in
Speaker 11: the federal government. And I've been fighting it and know
Speaker 11: how to fight it. You need a strong moral compass.
Speaker 11: You need to understand the role of what it means
Speaker 11: to be human under God, as well as the role
Speaker 11: of government and human human affairs. And this is what's
Speaker 11: required for you know, turning America back around, recivilizing America,
Speaker 11: as well as getting getting the economy and the appropriate
Speaker 11: family policies back on track.
Speaker 1: Right well, you know, and there are there are more
Speaker 1: and more people of faith who are deciding that they
Speaker 1: are going to do exactly what you're doing. And a
Speaker 1: lot of them are are winning elections in their in
Speaker 1: their districts, and it's wonderful to see. And it's part
Speaker 1: of this wonderful rebirth of American democracy and God is
Speaker 1: leading the way and that's just incredible, it really is.
Speaker 11: I mean, the decoration of the pendences that we're endowed
Speaker 11: by our creator, capital seat, not our government, with certain
Speaker 11: inalienable rights, the first of which, the most important of which,
Speaker 11: the right upon which all other rights are predicated, is
Speaker 11: the right to life. And we've been fighting for making
Speaker 11: sure that all people are protected equally under law, including
Speaker 11: preborn boys and girls, for decades. We understand what that means.
Speaker 11: We understand the sacrifice it takes, the work it takes,
Speaker 11: the the commitment, the you know, the money, everything that's
Speaker 11: that needs to be coordinated to save human lives. In
Speaker 11: protectumar the role of government is to protect human lives, Okay,
Speaker 11: That's basically it. And and so they reward those who
Speaker 11: do good and punish those who do evil. And the
Speaker 11: fact that you've got Christians stepping up to the plate
Speaker 11: is a I think a return to a step toward
Speaker 11: a spiritual revival, because, as John Adams said, you know this,
Speaker 11: this particular constitutional form of government is suitable only for
Speaker 11: a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for
Speaker 11: any other that you know, we have to be able
Speaker 11: to govern ourselves, which means we have to know what
Speaker 11: it means to be human under God. God is the
Speaker 11: standard of good and and right, which is one of
Speaker 11: the reasons why in a rule of loss system like ours,
Speaker 11: we've got the Ten Commandments written on the Supreme Court
Speaker 11: doors because they're not the final authority. God is, and
Speaker 11: at some point in time we're all going to have
Speaker 11: to answer to him for what we did in this life.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, you know, you talk about life, liberty and
Speaker 1: the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2: What's first life?
Speaker 1: And you guys have been at the forefront of protecting life,
Speaker 1: all life. Mothers lives, unborn babies lives, and and all
Speaker 1: the people around them families lives. And I just respect
Speaker 1: that so much what you do. And I can't believe
Speaker 1: that anybody would firebomb a clinic or that is trying
Speaker 1: to preserve and save lives. But yet it happened at
Speaker 1: Compass Care. Reverend Harden, I wish you the best. Not
Speaker 1: in my district, I can't vote for you, but I
Speaker 1: can certainly I can certainly root for you from the sidelines,
Speaker 1: and we will definitely be praying for you in your effort.
Speaker 1: So once at least Stephonic officially resigns her seat, then
Speaker 1: they'll schedule the special election.
Speaker 11: Yeah, at the moment, at least Satanic resigns her seat,
Speaker 11: which willctly be in April after the congressional elections. Special
Speaker 11: elections in Florida are short up. Then the assuming that
Speaker 11: Kathy Hochel at the Liberal correct politicians in New York
Speaker 11: don't change the special election law, which they try to
Speaker 11: do by the way already, then the election will be
Speaker 11: called sometime eighty days seventy to eighty days after that.
Speaker 11: So Kathy Hope will call a special election in ten
Speaker 11: days after she resigns, and then seventy eight days after
Speaker 11: that will be electioned, so likely be in July. This
Speaker 11: particular elections.
Speaker 1: Well, you'll you'll probably need some help raising money, so
Speaker 1: give us a call, take.
Speaker 3: Care and you got it. You got it.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you, Reverend Jim Hardin, and
Speaker 1: with that we are done with this nightcap. Back next
Speaker 1: Monday night, god willing, and I'll talk to you Saturday
Speaker 1: morning on the Saturday Morning edition. Right now, we honor
Speaker 1: America with the playing of our Star Spangled banner. Canadians
Speaker 1: shut up. Seven hundred WLW