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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Eury Jeff coming to you after Xavier basketball on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW, an abbreviated nightcap. If you will, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you would, I hope you do stick around. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got some good guests coming up. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>open up with an appeal to you and to anyone listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not on it already, and I'm sure my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners are already hopping on that, but you're just flying

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<v Speaker 1>by on the dial and hearing this. The record amount

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<v Speaker 1>of rainfall and now flooding that is occurring in central

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<v Speaker 1>and eastern Kentucky. And it's an overused term, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like biblical proportions, just record amounts, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>flooded out of their homes. There have been fourteen deaths

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<v Speaker 1>so far from the heavy rain in Kentucky and Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>and into Virginia. Now the bullseye is on the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Virginia as the storm moves on, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting ice and snow in the forecast. Three to five

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<v Speaker 1>inches possible in some of those areas that are still

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<v Speaker 1>flooded over. Can you even imagine? And if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>in one of those areas, you don't have to imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's right there, literally at your doorstep. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would just ask you to do what I did earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today and you can pick the charity you want. Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five Ministries does a fantastic job. Anytime our neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>are fellow Americans, anybody in our country is in distress

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<v Speaker 1>and needs a hand, they're there. And Samaritans purse similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>and the American Red Cross, the Old standby. Any donations

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure would be gladly accepted, and they are needed

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<v Speaker 1>so much at this time because the relief efforts haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even begune. When they do, people are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming back and finding that they've lost everything to the

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<v Speaker 1>water or the winter storm. There are people without electricity

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We should pray for them. We should do

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<v Speaker 1>anything we can to help, just like we did in

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of Hurricane Helene and the wildfires in southern

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<v Speaker 1>California Pacific Palisades at all. And it is American's nature

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<v Speaker 1>to help out. We are a generous people. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for us to open up our wallets again, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would just encourage you to do that on the show tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Jim Harden from Compasscare USA, Lee Walms Guns from

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<v Speaker 1>Patriot Mobile, and Max McGuire, he of the Max McGuire Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about numerous issues with these folks, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the fur Ball flies in for his Tuesday Night

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<v Speaker 1>close up in just a few minutes. This is the nightcap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to be with you, and remember the people

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<v Speaker 1>in central eastern Kentucky. In Tennessee, fourteen lives lost so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Basheer a man who I've given a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>crap to, I guess over the years, especially during COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has rightly said that if you are not

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<v Speaker 1>flooded out of your home, if you are safe, you

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<v Speaker 1>should probably stay there if you're in these affected flood areas.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, like I said, the recovery hasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>begun because we're still in the middle of this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be bad and people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to need help. So anything you could do is a

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<v Speaker 1>gift from God to those folks. So done preaching, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to do the rest of the thing. Here

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW as I promise, I promise, I delivered,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Furman is now ready to go on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait, just a minute, wait, just a freaking minute.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you and everything is fine between us. We're

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<v Speaker 3>good buddies. But don't be lying to the public on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio. Say you deliver like President Trump, because he

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<v Speaker 3>said that Mexico is going to pay for the wall,

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<v Speaker 3>so they'll be lying. Okay, he didn't deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And Andy, Andy, you're living in the pre you're living,

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<v Speaker 1>you're living in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>This time he is following.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a liar. He's following.

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<v Speaker 1>He's following through on all of his campaign promises right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in real time as you and I speak tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's been president for twenty freaking days. Let's see

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<v Speaker 3>what he does. All right, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't moved on anyway. Well, let's let's know you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're like the Democrats, who have you loved on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not lying. I don't lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't lie till I delivered, just like President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I promised, I promised you were coming on, and here

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's the only thing you said so far.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been true.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Andy, Well, you know what, I tell you something. It's

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<v Speaker 3>funny because I'm hearing all this buzz. If the Sinci

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals and the signed Jamar Chase, they got to sign

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<v Speaker 3>t Higgins, they got to sign Trey Henderson. I say,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, did any of these people watch the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl? Did they see that blueprint had to win?

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<v Speaker 3>It's line play. It's line play. Hey, look, Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 3>runs rings around the Jalen Hurts, the quarterback of the

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<v Speaker 3>Ingles to know that about that? He fromot five thousand yards,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt about that. But if you have a quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't turn the ball over, and a great defensive

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<v Speaker 3>line and a great offensive line, and I'm running back

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<v Speaker 3>that could really go crazy, which Sequon Barkley did, you

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<v Speaker 3>could win. They gave up Joe Mixon. No one talks

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<v Speaker 3>about that. Joe Mixon had a hell of a year

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas, Okay, with the Texans. So I'm not so

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<v Speaker 3>certain signing these guys is such a major deal. I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't believe that. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Two things, Andy, Saquon Barkley did not run

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<v Speaker 1>rampant during the Super Bowl. They they devised a plan,

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<v Speaker 1>a successful plan to stop him.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe Dix. He got them there.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon wasn't in the Super Bowl this year doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't really help the Texans at all. They have

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<v Speaker 1>him have a great year. So I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>running back is really the issue. A running game in

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<v Speaker 1>which you could have done with p Ryan. If the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had had an offensive line when they had p

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan in the lineup, they could have been fine with

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<v Speaker 1>p Ryan if they had a good run offense, which

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<v Speaker 1>they have still yet to prove that they can deliver

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<v Speaker 1>for the fans.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the successful teams in the playoffs, what do

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<v Speaker 3>they do? They played great defense and they ran the football.

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<v Speaker 3>The Buffalo Bills they turned it around this year. Why

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<v Speaker 3>they ran the football not necessarily Bengals obviously, Well, you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's one game, but they got there. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals never got to the playoffs. They got there.

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<v Speaker 3>And the point I'm saying is that the Bengals don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a running game.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know that means they don't have a running

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<v Speaker 1>game because they do not have a proper offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>or defensive line. So I'm agreeing with your assessment. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, And they don't have a quality running back.

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<v Speaker 3>But sa Quon Barkley played for the Bengals, he still

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<v Speaker 3>have an outstanding year. Not as good a year as

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<v Speaker 3>he had in Philadelphia, but he'd have a great year.

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<v Speaker 4>He really would.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Chase a gat year for a Bengal quarter running

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<v Speaker 1>back expected. Chase Brown showed flashes of of like all

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<v Speaker 1>pro play when he wasn't injured this year, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals could do the things you're talking about with a

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown or with a p Rynd in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to have Saquon Barkley to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't see kuon.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, Chase Brown had more success catching the ball out

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<v Speaker 3>of the backfield than running the football. Okay, at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, I's either here or there because

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals, like you and I were in front of

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<v Speaker 3>their TV sets watching the playoffs. That's the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. So the point is that you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>do something to make your team better, and to give

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<v Speaker 3>those guys, those three players more money. To me, is

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<v Speaker 3>going to make your team better. No, I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not disagreed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not disagreeing with you on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they are crucial for continued Bengals success,

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<v Speaker 1>but that can't be the only thing. They've got to

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<v Speaker 1>put these other places together some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me they continued Bengel success. They've hadn't had success

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<v Speaker 3>in the last two years. Think about that. What kind

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<v Speaker 3>of success if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had, if they have season they want to continue the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of offensive success that they have enjoyed. Even this

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<v Speaker 1>season in a nine and eight season, they had offensive success,

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<v Speaker 1>but their defense was not up to the challenge and

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<v Speaker 1>they did not have a proper offensive line. Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>was on his but more than a toddler learning to walk.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's because the Bengals don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Play You're right, But offensive success got them nowhere. He

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<v Speaker 3>threw for about five thousand yards nine picks, like forty

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<v Speaker 3>three touchdowns. Where did it get them? That's what I'm saying, Well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>they did it get them.

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<v Speaker 1>They can have that component, and they can have a

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<v Speaker 1>defense that can tackle people, and they can have an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line that protects him and blast holes for any

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<v Speaker 1>running back that's back there. Let's not let's not look

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<v Speaker 1>at a marquee running back as part of the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>answer to get over the hamp Andy. It's all about defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about learning to tackle for in the open field,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's learning to protect Joe Burrow. And they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Pieces of Philadelphia statement I said. I said, if you

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<v Speaker 3>watch the blueprint of the Philadelphia Eagles, how do they win?

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<v Speaker 3>And defensive play line, the line play.

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<v Speaker 2>I agreed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bengals, the Bengals need some people on the

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<v Speaker 1>line who are like three hundred and fifty pounds with

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<v Speaker 1>one eye in the middle of their forehead, who can

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<v Speaker 1>actually not jump off sides or you know, offensive motion

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<v Speaker 1>themselves out of first downs. You're right, they need a

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<v Speaker 1>competent line and they need competent line play on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the ball. And I don't know where you

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<v Speaker 1>shop for those, but we got to find some of

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<v Speaker 1>those somewhere. And wait, there's people that Bengals could afford

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<v Speaker 1>and still signed t Higgins and Jamar Chase and Trey Hendry.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, they could sign all three. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind they can. But here here's what. I

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<v Speaker 3>really have a sore spot, a real big source spot,

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<v Speaker 3>a whole of my stomach because of it. It makes

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<v Speaker 3>me sick when they fired Luana Rumo. Okay, lou Ana

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<v Speaker 3>Rumo was a scapegoat. No one's even saying anything about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I may have heard maybe one or two people mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 3>But lou Anna Rumo was a scapegoat for the downfall

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<v Speaker 3>of the Bengals defense. And I don't see it getting

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<v Speaker 3>much better next year. And it hurts me because he's

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<v Speaker 3>a hell of a guy. He was a hell of

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<v Speaker 3>a coach. He was up for several head coaching spots

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<v Speaker 3>several years ago, and now all of a sudden, he's

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<v Speaker 3>an idiot. It doesn't work that way. Well, given the

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<v Speaker 3>players Joe Burrow was crying about give me players to

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<v Speaker 3>work with, No, Louiana Rumo is the one who should

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<v Speaker 3>have been crying give me players to work with. It's wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>That's where it should have been.

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<v Speaker 1>You are absolutely right in so many ways, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are fatally wrong in another way. You know as well

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<v Speaker 1>as I do that the NFL Professional Sports is a

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<v Speaker 1>what have you done for me lately?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and lou Anmo was hailed is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you got to continue that excellence or

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll tell you something else. I really believe in

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<v Speaker 3>moves like that more so to appease the fan base

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<v Speaker 3>than a piece maybe the media as well than anybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>because they had to make some sort of a move

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<v Speaker 3>if the two bad seasons not going to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>So they chucked Louis on Romo's head off and now

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's happy because he's not there because the defense stunk. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the defense be any better with the same players, No,

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that they're afraid of losing to good

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be. So someone has to pay the price.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're not going to fire Zach Taylor because he's

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<v Speaker 3>will never fire a guy and pay for it. And

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<v Speaker 1>All this discussion about firings brings up something else. I

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I have, as long as you have, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>firing or getting fired is always a possibility, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>goes through it. Anybody that's any damn good at all

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<v Speaker 1>their career been fired.

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<v Speaker 3>And no doubt, and I know, so do I.

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<v Speaker 2>So do I.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is it's it's a necessary thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always a bad thing sometimes getting fired, in

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<v Speaker 1>fact most times. In my case, I know every time

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been fired in radio, I was better the

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<v Speaker 1>next time around. I learned from that. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>lou Anarumo is learning wonderful lessons right now and he's

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<v Speaker 1>any mistakes that he made this time around. Well, because

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<v Speaker 1>of right exactly, he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be better than he was with the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals because of that. Failure breed success always, Andy, And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you fail, and it's not your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a blessing from God that.

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<v Speaker 3>You comparing apples and oranges, because in football there's a barometer.

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<v Speaker 3>You could see how you failed. The defense stunk and

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<v Speaker 3>they were lower. The lower.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a barometer, it's called the ratings. It's called the.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get fired in radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, for reason, Well, the first time I was just

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't wise enough to see it coming and get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. The second time I got fired,

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<v Speaker 1>I got lazy, I got complacent in my job. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was in Chattanooga nineteen eighty four. Let's see. The

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<v Speaker 1>next time I got fired, a new company took over

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<v Speaker 1>the radio station where I had been the number one

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon drive disc jockey at for four straight years, and

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<v Speaker 1>they purposely wanted to get rid of the salaries that

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<v Speaker 1>we had, and that's where I got off. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this last time that I lost my full time job

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<v Speaker 1>in radio was in two thousand and nine, and we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew it was coming for a year because the FCC,

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<v Speaker 1>in coordination with the Department of Justice, said that Clear Channel,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the name of the company at the time

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<v Speaker 1>now it's iHeartMedia Clear Channel because they went from being

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<v Speaker 1>a public traded company to a private fund company, they

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<v Speaker 1>could not own as many radio stations that they as

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<v Speaker 1>they had in the market, and they did not have

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<v Speaker 1>the choice of which stations they had to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of and mine the Fox was one of those stations

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<v Speaker 1>that they were ordered by the d o J in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Another federal bureaucracy that I hope Trump straightens out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was you know what, for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>In my career, Andy Gary Jeff Walker and intellectual property

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<v Speaker 1>were married in the same sentence, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I chose not to go with the new company

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<v Speaker 1>because I enjoyed doing talk and I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>sit and babysit music anymore. And that's what I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been relegated to doing without a chance to continue

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<v Speaker 1>on WLW. So I really didn't get fired. I made

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<v Speaker 1>a choice, and I feel better for that choice. So

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<v Speaker 1>there there's I'll give you mind if you want to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know I I showed you, I showed

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<v Speaker 1>you mind. You you show me yours love.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was fired twice. I was fired at an

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<v Speaker 3>FM station was called real Uh what was the super talk?

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<v Speaker 3>Super talk on the FM dial? And it wasn't at

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<v Speaker 3>the office One day it wasn't that super. They called

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<v Speaker 3>me into the office and in the December afternoon after

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<v Speaker 3>my shift and they said, well, we're going from uh

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<v Speaker 3>going from sports talk to country music I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the end of that. I was gone.

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<v Speaker 3>And then prior to that, I was let go at

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<v Speaker 3>the seventeen seventeen eighteen years at WLW, which is no

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<v Speaker 3>fault of my own, because you know the ratings book,

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<v Speaker 3>we were number one and I still have the the

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence for it because I did the show what

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Collins was I did. It was like something like

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three writing books and we were like number one,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty out of fifty three. And I was doing a

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday evening interview show for the Bengals with t. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Huschman Zada. He didn't show several times, Darryl Pod I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you the truth. There's a whole story which I've

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<v Speaker 3>never gone public with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, wait, Andy, is there an NDA associated

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<v Speaker 1>with your your letting go? I mean you may a

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<v Speaker 1>non disclosure agreement. You may want to be treading carefully here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not for legal reason.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, many people have been fired

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<v Speaker 3>and they had to sit out six months with it

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<v Speaker 3>and not compete. They waived that, and I was fired

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<v Speaker 3>for there's a cause, and I know no cause. I

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<v Speaker 3>was not fired for cause. So that tells you what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. The day I was let golfrom

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<v Speaker 3>Mill w they had like nineteen other people lost their

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<v Speaker 3>me in that hole, they just fired me. Let me go,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll leave it at that. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>fired there, and you're right it worked out well because

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<v Speaker 3>I still remain with the same company. It was clear

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<v Speaker 3>channel then though to iHeartMedia now and would Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 3>been with them over twelve thirteen years?

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<v Speaker 2>So what are you griving about?

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<v Speaker 3>Sound like it was a bad deal? Okay, it was

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<v Speaker 3>all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, see this is the thing in life.

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<v Speaker 1>We all run into bad deals. And life isn't fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm not telling you anything new. You've lived

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<v Speaker 1>longer than I have. Life is not fair, Andy Furman.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes that unfairness reaches into our personal lives and

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<v Speaker 1>smacks is around and reminds us that life isn't fair.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we recognize, if we recognize and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons after the initial hurt and sting of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We realize that we're better off, and it's like refining

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know when it happens like one door closes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if it was that serious when I was

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<v Speaker 3>like call mell w, I wouldn't have had all these goodies,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, attached to my firing, like the six months

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<v Speaker 3>not compete was waived.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the other stage, I went to super Talk.

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<v Speaker 3>From there, I went directly to super Talk, and they

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<v Speaker 3>allowed me to take some of my sponsors with me

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<v Speaker 3>from WLW super Talk. So it was a budget cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no doubt in my mind it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens in this business, you know, and sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers just don't make sense, no matter how good you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, it could happen to me anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>It may happen after this show tonight, because we're airing

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<v Speaker 1>all this dirty laundry.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've got I mean, you see this nondisclosure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about fifteen sixteen years ago, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>there's a point in time what just goes away talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, what I mean, once they stopped paying me

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<v Speaker 1>the severance that pretty much was over.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I got severance pay for losing the job at the Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still got paid for being on WLW all

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<v Speaker 1>in the same check.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you figure out?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I had a contract at LW which had

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<v Speaker 3>two more years to go, and they paid me off

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<v Speaker 3>and I was getting paid to the station.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you so you were double dipping? You have you have?

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<v Speaker 2>You have nothing to complain about. I'm nothing to whine about.

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<v Speaker 4>Andy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, here's a thing I don't mind if I screw up,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm called jaywalking and I get a fine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it sucks, but I did it. I created it. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't create the whole situation over there. I would have

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<v Speaker 3>been happy if if they told me that, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>you're losing your job because the budget cuts. That would

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<v Speaker 3>be any old scenario that I went through. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was embarrassing because it was in the press and no

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<v Speaker 3>one talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy, it's a different company, it's a different even a

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<v Speaker 1>different name. It's a different company. So you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>people in charge now have nothing to do with what

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's put that to bed with a.

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<v Speaker 4>Few get to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about lou Anumo getting right right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about you know, sometimes when you get fired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing, and this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing for lou Anarumo.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe, I hope so. I like lou so any

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<v Speaker 3>high school football in New York, and I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>That anything else going on. I got a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>I know that, you know, I really want to I

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to talk about this. I saw this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't take credit for it, obviously. It was in

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Times on Sunday, late Sunday in January,

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<v Speaker 3>I think January twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I ripped it out and I wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you about the idea of college is offering a degree

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<v Speaker 3>in athletics, and it's starting to gain momentum. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>University School of Professional Studies. He spent years exposing the

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<v Speaker 3>intellectual value of basketball. Position less play, he says can

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<v Speaker 3>teach entrepreneurial thinking and fast breaks can teach interpersonal communication.

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<v Speaker 3>This is unbelievable, and I think it's not a bad

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<v Speaker 3>idea college is offering a degree in athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>Slit my wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like like women's studies or comparative literature or some

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<v Speaker 1>other god awful inapplicable skill for life kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if do the athletes who are getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>degree in athletics, do they actually go to class and

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<v Speaker 1>take tests and go to symposiums or is it just

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<v Speaker 1>going into practice and play the games.

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<v Speaker 3>No, when you think of athletics, you're thinking, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you are Mane, you're saying the dumb job. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can get a degree right now and higher education

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<v Speaker 3>and dance and art and music and drama, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that those are totally valid degrees and there's maybe

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<v Speaker 3>portals into human conditions. And I think, no, athletics, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no different than athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're misquoting me from somewhere down the line. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're dumb jocks. I think there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of smart jocks. And most of them go to

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt and Stanford and Northwest. I know, And yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of smart jockice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Columbia, the school I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>But most smart jocks aren't aren't taking their major in

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<v Speaker 1>general studies or criminal justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I will tell you this much. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what they're majoring in. But when I watch these games

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<v Speaker 3>on TV, and I was watching the Saint John's game

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<v Speaker 3>because creating on Sunday, and they had one player who

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<v Speaker 3>has gone out to three different school as I followed

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<v Speaker 3>his career, went to Syracuse, went the Seaton Hall. Now

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing for Saint John's. I mean really, I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what he's majoring in. If he's even

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<v Speaker 3>majoring in. He's probably a major in athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably an aspiring neuroscientist, dandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>We can make funnel we want, but I think the

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<v Speaker 3>entire system is broken. So really, I really believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I at one point in time wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>transfer for a different major at a different school. They

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<v Speaker 3>told me I lose thirty credit. I was I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing it, so I stayed. I just it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it doesn't make any sense. And there were times

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<v Speaker 3>when people would transfer from one school to another they'd

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<v Speaker 3>sit out a year. These kids don't even sit out

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. I think there's something wrong with the system.

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<v Speaker 3>It really and that's why these coaches right now are

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<v Speaker 3>basically packing it up and leading. Why are they doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because in years past, they go to a high school,

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<v Speaker 3>talked to a kids, they want to come play for

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<v Speaker 3>people again. The kid would say yeah, and the kid

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<v Speaker 3>would say, well I start. Will I play all we

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<v Speaker 3>on TV? What's the schedule? That was the question. Now

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<v Speaker 3>the kid says, hey, how much am I getting? How

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<v Speaker 3>much that the chip?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, listen conversation for another time.

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<v Speaker 3>They should.

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<v Speaker 1>We've wasted most of the time talking about you getting fired.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>You did, you did, but you got fired more than me.

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<v Speaker 3>So you did. I only got fired twice. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>fire like six times.

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<v Speaker 2>Three times? Really three times.

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<v Speaker 3>After the show. You'll be fired.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll be fired.

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<v Speaker 3>After the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, have a good night, pleasant dreams. All right, get off.

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<v Speaker 4>My thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Elw And joining us once again is the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Patriot Mobile LLC, Lee Walms Guns, who is in North

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and just one of the top five power players

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<v Speaker 1>there and has been following Tom Holman and ICE's progress

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<v Speaker 1>and the hindrances that are being put up the roadblocks

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<v Speaker 1>by officials in these so called sanctuary cities who do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to adhere to the federal laws when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to illegal immigration. Ice has again, in some instances,

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<v Speaker 1>run into some pretty bad obstructions of justice. In Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Boston arrested in illegal alien from Guatemala multiple charges

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<v Speaker 1>relating to child rape. He was released for one reason only,

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<v Speaker 1>sanctuary policy, so he was back out in the community

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<v Speaker 1>and not where ICE could find him to deport him.

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Boston also arrested an illegal alien from Turkey for

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<v Speaker 1>assaulting a mentally disabled person. Ice ordered that local jail

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<v Speaker 1>to further detain him, but were ignored. Ice Seattle arrested

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<v Speaker 1>another illegal alien from Salvador, where he's wanted for aggravated homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>In la Ice arrested another Guatemala and illegal charged with

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault and rape while possessing a gun in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>The top ten arrested illegal aliens were posted to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them are from a deadly South American gang

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<v Speaker 1>trende at Ragua. You may have heard about that. Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Walms Gance this obstruction is not going to last. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Christy Nome and the Department of Justice and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman are serious people. They have a mission, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a mandate, and they are pursuing that regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that stand in their way. I

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<v Speaker 1>still appreciate their efforts so far because they've been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>When nothing was being done before, now something's actually being done.

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<v Speaker 1>Your comments on any or all of.

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<v Speaker 5>This, well, I think borders are Tom Homan needs to

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<v Speaker 5>be on the cover of every magazine as maybe the

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<v Speaker 5>sexiest man alive right now because Texans are loving how

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<v Speaker 5>he's helping us. I mean, he is serious about this.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows you. As a former border agent, he's seen

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<v Speaker 5>the crime and the cartels and the corruption that comes

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<v Speaker 5>across the border. And in the last forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 5>he's had a couple of fabulous tweets that Americans should

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<v Speaker 5>feel good about. But at the same time, like I say,

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<v Speaker 5>with everything with our win in November, this work.

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<v Speaker 6>Has just begune. He posted.

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<v Speaker 5>In the last twenty four hours, US Border patrol has

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<v Speaker 5>encountered a total of two twenty nine aliens across the

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<v Speaker 5>entire Southwest border. That is down from a high of

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<v Speaker 5>over eleven thousand a day under Biden. He also posts

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<v Speaker 5>interior arrest by eyes have increased more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and thirty seven percent under President Trump. Arrest of aliens

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<v Speaker 5>with criminal convictions have doubled under President Trump. The rest

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<v Speaker 5>of illegal gang members has also doubled. I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 5>aware of the trenda ragua them taking over that apartment

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<v Speaker 5>complex in Colorado, that took over an apartment complex in Texas,

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<v Speaker 5>which Texas Operation Lone Star folks were trying to root

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<v Speaker 5>them out. In all of this, all of this stems

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<v Speaker 5>from the Biden open border policies. Just this week in

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<v Speaker 5>New York, a trans migrant was charged with raping a

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen year old boy and a New York City bathroom. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the thing about this trans migrant, he just because you

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<v Speaker 5>put on a trust doesn't make you a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>He was already wanted in New Jersey, Massachusetts and had

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<v Speaker 5>an ice detainer. But because of these sanctuary cities, counties,

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<v Speaker 5>and states, this person was still out there for you.

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<v Speaker 5>This goes to show you that President Trump and borders

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<v Speaker 5>are home and are correct when they tell liberal New

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<v Speaker 5>York City officials to get these violent people out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just this past week, Pam Bondi, the new Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>filed suits against Kathy Hochel, against Letitia James, against these

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<v Speaker 1>officials in these states, lawsuits because of these illegal sanctuary policies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to run through the court system, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a really good feeling Lee that the

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<v Speaker 1>courts are going to say, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the federal directive of this. There are no loopholes

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<v Speaker 1>for this. It is hindering it. It's harboring fugitives, violent fugitives.

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<v Speaker 6>It absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all it is is.

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<v Speaker 5>Even in Texas, you know our state, our governor announced

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<v Speaker 5>our Senate Bill four was signed September went into effects

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<v Speaker 5>September first, twenty seventeen, saying that the sanctuary cities are

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<v Speaker 5>not allowed in Texas. But even then we still had

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<v Speaker 5>some of these liberal cities, you know, having sanctuary city

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<v Speaker 5>problems in Texas. US Border Patrol released suspects due to

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<v Speaker 5>Biden's policy in March and then June sixteenth, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>four and illegal Venezuela and alien learned lord twelve year

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<v Speaker 5>old Joscelyn Hungary under that Houston Bridge where they sexually

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<v Speaker 5>assaulted her for twelve hours and then strangled her and

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<v Speaker 5>dumbed her body in Harris County Value. Those suspects are

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<v Speaker 5>now charged with capital murder. They're two illegal aliens from Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know they had been apprehended much earlier but released.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unfathomable that we as American citizens have our freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of movement restricted and yet illegal aliens, people we know

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about. Many of them are criminals, are terrorists. In

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<v Speaker 1>some cases. Our drug runners and human traffickers were able

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<v Speaker 1>to move about freely in the country for four years

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<v Speaker 1>as more and more flocked in thanks to the Biden welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt I heard an interview earlier today with Andy Biggs,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a Congressman from Arizona. You may know of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about a conversation he had with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman just over the weekend. They need Congress to

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<v Speaker 1>act because they are running out of money. ICE does

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<v Speaker 1>not have the funds needed to do their job, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Congress keeps on saying, well, you've got to have

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<v Speaker 1>Congress approved, you've got to have the legislative branch get

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<v Speaker 1>involved for some of this stuff, or else it's unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>We're to constitutional crisis. Well, Congress needs to act right

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<v Speaker 1>now so I's mission can be fulfilled and the people's choice,

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<v Speaker 1>the people's mandate that they gave President Trump based on

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<v Speaker 1>what he was campaigning on, which he is fully fledged

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<v Speaker 1>promised to do and has been doing since the inauguration day.

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<v Speaker 1>But they need the cash to continue because they are

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<v Speaker 1>severely underfunded. And while we've got all kinds of money

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<v Speaker 1>going for transgender plays around the world through USAID, let's

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<v Speaker 1>concentrate on getting the job done that the American people

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<v Speaker 1>elected this president to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and just some financials of that.

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<v Speaker 5>When you talk about the money, I love how Tom

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<v Speaker 5>Holman says he's not putting up with it, and Pam

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<v Speaker 5>Bondy is taking incredible aggressive action. But think about the

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<v Speaker 5>logistics of it and these sanctuary counties and sanctuary cities.

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<v Speaker 5>And Tom Holman said this in an article last week.

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<v Speaker 5>It's less efficient to arrest a bad guy in public

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<v Speaker 5>or he's hiding from us, and we're trying to arrest

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<v Speaker 5>them on his turf rather than arrest them in a

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<v Speaker 5>county jail where they should be sitting there on ice detainer.

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<v Speaker 5>This is where Tom says, if they're in a county jail,

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<v Speaker 5>it takes one agent to go in and get the

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<v Speaker 5>guy on the ICE detainer. If they're out in public,

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<v Speaker 5>it takes a whole team of these ICE.

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<v Speaker 6>Agents to go get somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>So you get down to the financials of it, and

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<v Speaker 5>that makes perfect sense, and that is how these sanctuary

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<v Speaker 5>counties and states are affecting our national ice budget. And

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<v Speaker 5>the states should be number one, not get one penny

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<v Speaker 5>of federal funding if they are.

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<v Speaker 6>Trying to allow this sanctuary stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But also they need to be paying back the federal

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<v Speaker 5>government if they're causing this scenario that I just described,

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<v Speaker 5>the multiple ized teams to have to come in do

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<v Speaker 5>the job where it should just take one agent to

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<v Speaker 5>go get the bad guy who is in jail for

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<v Speaker 5>criminal activity and one guy take them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Wams Guns has always great stuff, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here to talk about this. It's an ongoing deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are speeding as quickly as we can towards

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<v Speaker 1>the mission of getting criminals, illegal criminals who are not

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<v Speaker 1>citizens of this country out of this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is their primary mission right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and this has just begune everyone. No one needs

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<v Speaker 5>to rest because we want in November. While we have

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<v Speaker 5>been going on warp speed, President Trump has been progressing

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<v Speaker 5>and warp speed, doing amazing things. Every citizen needs to

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<v Speaker 5>know this is a marathon and we need to keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>The second we take our eye off the ball, the

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats come back and implement these very dangerous policies again.

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<v Speaker 6>So we can never stop our activism right and we need.

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<v Speaker 1>To codify the immigration law so the next president, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>he or she may be, cannot just open up the

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<v Speaker 1>floodgates again.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee walmsconce, thank you so much, take.

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<v Speaker 6>Care, thanks, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless, God bless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nightcap and we roll on with Max McGuire

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<v Speaker 1>next Wires show. He's Masters of Political Science from Villanova,

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<v Speaker 1>author of the Conservative's Guide to Winning Arguments book series.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been involved in fundraising and campaigns for over ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Also a policy fellow at the Millennial Policy Center and

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<v Speaker 1>served on the board of directors for First Choice Pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>Services in Las Vegas, the busiest pro life pregnancy center

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. In fact, in just a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have the Reverend Jim Harden, who leads Compasscare Us

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<v Speaker 1>USA that also does wonderful things with pro life pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>measures and their centers around the country as well.

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<v Speaker 7>But Max, welcome to the Nightcabine, Jim, Jim. Jim is wonderful,

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<v Speaker 7>and Jim is a good friend. He's great, He really

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<v Speaker 7>is wonderful. And you got two kids of your own

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<v Speaker 7>and now you're on the shows. It's great to have

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<v Speaker 7>you back. Let's talk doze for a few minutes, and

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<v Speaker 7>let me just start with this. I've often asked the

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<v Speaker 7>question for probably twenty years, and maybe it's just a

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<v Speaker 7>naive a sense of night naivete that I have about

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<v Speaker 7>how things work in quotation marks in our federal government.

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<v Speaker 7>But why can't the United States government operate like a business?

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<v Speaker 7>And the answer I most usually get is, oh, you

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<v Speaker 7>can't do that with government. I'm like, well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 7>aren't we all shareholders? If we're legal citizens of the

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<v Speaker 7>United States and we're tax payers, aren't we in effect

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<v Speaker 7>shareholders of the government of buy for the people? And

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<v Speaker 7>isn't Donald Trump the new CEO? And is he not

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<v Speaker 7>in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Of making tough decisions with where our money is going?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>People also they forget sometimes Max, that the money that

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<v Speaker 1>is in Washington is not their money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ours.

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<v Speaker 1>So why shouldn't we expect transparency when we ask for

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<v Speaker 1>the treasurer's report at the board meeting?

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<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't all the books be open?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what Elon Musk and Doze you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>under the watchful of the CEO or President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I off track?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 8>Tell me why in a perfect world that's how it

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<v Speaker 8>would work. I think what's become very obvious is we

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<v Speaker 8>don't live in a perfect world, and the system is

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<v Speaker 8>designed to not allow this type of transparency, not allow

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<v Speaker 8>this type of accountability. Yeah, Donald Trump is the CEO,

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<v Speaker 8>but he's bound by the bylaws obviously, the Constitution and

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<v Speaker 8>the budgets that are passed by Congress. We're seeing this

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<v Speaker 8>play out in courts. Donald Trump's trying to take down

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<v Speaker 8>gender study stuff off of the website and of courses,

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<v Speaker 8>saying no, you can't Congress authorize.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>So, if we're going to get out of this mess,

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<v Speaker 8>and we're going to get past these court hearings and

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<v Speaker 8>lawsuits and actually start gutting it, Congress is going to

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<v Speaker 8>have to get involved because they're coming up on a

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<v Speaker 8>deadline to pass a new spending bill. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>if you look, they don't seem to be working nights,

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<v Speaker 8>working weekends. I guarantee you they don't have a new

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<v Speaker 8>spending package written. They're probably just going to try and

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<v Speaker 8>run it back with a continuing resolution and omnibus and

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<v Speaker 8>a continuing resolution basically just says, hey, the way we

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<v Speaker 8>did it last year, let's just do it again. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>what's the point of cutting all this money if there's

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<v Speaker 8>a very high likelihood Congress is going to refund it

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<v Speaker 8>in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But these agencies that Congress approved to have these funds,

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<v Speaker 1>basically we're given a blank check for whatever they deemed that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to have three branches of government executive, legislative,

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<v Speaker 1>and judicial. We're not supposed to have an administrative branch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nowhere in the Constitution. It was not envisioned, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not part of the plan. It's time that we

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<v Speaker 1>do whittle down that administrative BRDGE and either eliminate it

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<v Speaker 1>or hold them accountable and make them specifically say this

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<v Speaker 1>is where the money is going that's been approved by Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what's going on right.

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<v Speaker 9>Now in the perfect world.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but the reason that the administrative state has grown

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<v Speaker 8>is because Congress has.

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<v Speaker 9>Grown lazier and lazier. You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 8>They're supposed to say where the money goes, but they're

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<v Speaker 8>not really doing it. They're not doing it with any

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<v Speaker 8>high level of specificity. They're saying, Hey, we want to

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<v Speaker 8>spend money on this administrative state. You decide where it goes,

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<v Speaker 8>and then a bunch of bureaucrats in the back room decide.

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<v Speaker 8>That's how we end up paying ten million dollars for

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<v Speaker 8>voluntary circumcisions in Africa. I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 8>you saw that. What really struck me is the voluntary

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<v Speaker 8>that seems like it should go without saying. That makes

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<v Speaker 8>me wonder if they're funding involuntary ones.

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<v Speaker 9>But you get that craziness.

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<v Speaker 8>Congress would never vote for that, that would never pass

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<v Speaker 8>committee or subcommittee. But when you give the blank check

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<v Speaker 8>to the administrative state and they're able to just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>what should we spend this money on, you get crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and many people in Congress, you know, are their life,

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're supposed to be citizen lawmakers, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Constitution, in a perfect world, as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing the country is is a maturity

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<v Speaker 1>people in this country. Many of these are eighty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>issues so called, and there's certainly sixty forty issues, and

759
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>people want this. The Americans that I talk to want

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<v Speaker 1>this done. They want this hollowing out of this overbloated

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<v Speaker 1>bureautic state, bureaucratic state, the administrative state. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>if their congress member doesn't act, bye gosh, they got

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<v Speaker 1>to be they got to be primary, they got to

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<v Speaker 1>be gotten out of there in a district that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote read anyway, You've got to get people on

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<v Speaker 1>board with the program.

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<v Speaker 9>Max, Oh, the people support this one hundred percent. You're right.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that's what makes the democrats positions so

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<v Speaker 8>very confusing. Right, They're kind of flopping around like a

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<v Speaker 8>fish out of water. All the plays, the playbooks, the

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<v Speaker 8>focus group tested lines.

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<v Speaker 9>They're not working. So what are they doing.

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<v Speaker 8>They're out in the street protesting to save foreign aid. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>No American wants I mean, there's some farn aid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 8>But if you go back to your constituents and say,

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<v Speaker 8>I work really hard in DC. I fought to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure your tax dollars went overseas.

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<v Speaker 9>They're going to get voted out. I mean, they're so

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<v Speaker 9>out of.

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<v Speaker 8>Their element with this Trumps second term that they don't

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<v Speaker 8>even realize that they're just digging a hole deeper for themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think the reason that they're doing this because

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<v Speaker 8>there's no real political calculation to this. I think the

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<v Speaker 8>reason you're seeing them take these steps is because their

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<v Speaker 8>financial livelihoods on the line. I would suspect there might

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<v Speaker 8>be some corruption cases that might stem out of these things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>but they're not doing this out of political expediency. They're

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<v Speaker 8>doing it out of trying to save their their own skin.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing it out of abject fear. Max. You're right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And the gravy.

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<v Speaker 1>Train is running, it's stopping at the station and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not unloading any gravy. And when that happens, then they

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00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 1>simply go away and at least I could pray.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the most of the legal people I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard as far as the lawsuit challenges to what DOGE

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, are going to be won by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is refreshing. That's the good news, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>positive side. But you're right, Congress has to act, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have to act now.

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<v Speaker 8>They do, and I think Trump eventually wins. But the

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<v Speaker 8>goal that the last the Administry of State wants is

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<v Speaker 8>they want these judges to basically put a stay on

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<v Speaker 8>the freeze, which they've done to give the administrative time,

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<v Speaker 8>State time to push the money out the door.

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<v Speaker 9>Once you push the money out the door, it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be really hard to get it back.

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<v Speaker 8>You might be able to claw back some of it, right,

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<v Speaker 8>but once it's out the door in Stent, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I saw one guy on TV crying about

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<v Speaker 8>his wife. She has an NGO and they lost a

813
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<v Speaker 8>million dollar grant. You dig into what this NNGO does.

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<v Speaker 8>It teaches like peasants and like and like villagers in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 8>modern art.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Max, we'll we'll we'll see it sorted out in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us, and we hope that Congress does get

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<v Speaker 1>their act together.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I think that Donald Trump and and Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>have their acts together, and that is scaring the bejeebers

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<v Speaker 1>out of a whole lot of people who are tied

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<v Speaker 1>to that gravy train we were talking about, Max, maguire,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time tonight, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have a chance to talk again soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it. Thanks for having me you bet.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, Reverend Jim Harden will be on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the break and uh, we have we

830
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<v Speaker 1>have more to go, plus my friend doctor John Hubert

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in a long time on the

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<v Speaker 1>nightcap coming up. You know, you only call people that

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<v Speaker 1>can help.

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<v Speaker 2>You when you're in times of need.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, uh, and maybe this this is I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been a long time to talk to my

839
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<v Speaker 1>favorite forensic psychologist. I mean, he's he's been number one

840
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<v Speaker 1>on the list for years. In fact, I don't even

841
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<v Speaker 1>know who. I don't even know who's number two. Uh,

842
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<v Speaker 1>doctor John Huber, Uh, the man who who taught us

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<v Speaker 1>about ketamine.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's uh, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to you know, effects on people with dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with uh, you know, chronic pain and anxiety and.

847
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Myriad of other issues.

848
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 1>But tonight, doctor, I come to you as a doctor, Uh,

849
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 1>not just I don't need a ketymine infusion or treatment,

850
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>but that that may be forthcoming. I don't know Uh,

851
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>my wife and I and and you know us Chris

852
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>two point zero dealing with the loss of Garth Brooks

853
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 1>or Brooksy the cat dog. And yeah, I just wanted

854
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to talk not about my pain and suffering, but what

855
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>people go through and as a psychologist, what do you

856
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>do for them?

857
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.199
<v Speaker 2>But how do you help people who are going through

858
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>this loss?

859
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Because it is in many cases it's just as as

860
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>though you had lost a child or a mom or

861
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 1>a dad, you know, a close family member, because that's

862
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>what they are ultimately to most of us who have

863
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>them family members. So I know, I know you've probably

864
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I know you've probably dealt with this too in your personal.

865
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 10>Life, absolutely, and you know they are family members. In fact,

866
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 10>you know, there's there's this research you know how everyone's swaw.

867
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 10>A parent will call their kid by their pet's name,

868
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 10>and there's actual psychological reasons why they do that, because

869
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 10>you've incorporated that pet into your family so much so

870
00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 10>that by doing that, you're not just you're not just

871
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 10>honoring your kid by calling your your your animal or

872
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 10>the kid the animal's name. You're actually honoring the animal too,

873
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 10>because you're saying that that that animal is now a

874
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 10>legitimate family member, not just because they're your pet, but

875
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 10>because they belong. And when you when you take something

876
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.119
<v Speaker 10>that that you cherish and you brought them into your heart,

877
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 10>into your family and your soul, you're gonna have all

878
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 10>the stages of you know, loss like Koble ross the

879
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 10>stages of death and dying. Now, not everybody goes through

880
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 10>every single stage, and I know there's there's psychologists that

881
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 10>will argue that, but I've I've worked with many people

882
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 10>who've lost family members and kids and parents, and and

883
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 10>not everybody does in my experience, but we expect them

884
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 10>to go through that at least some sort.

885
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, you go through and.

886
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 10>You're angry, and you're in denial and you know, and

887
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 10>you go through the different stages of depression and then

888
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 10>you come to acceptance.

889
00:45:55.119 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Unless unless you're unless you're a total social pet.

890
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 10>Yes, yes, but but then what happens is you go

891
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 10>through that same series of emotions.

892
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 4>If you're a sociopath for certain anatimate.

893
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 10>Objects, whether it's a car, a weapon, a gun, an eye,

894
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 10>something like that, Uh.

895
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 4>You can go through that same same series.

896
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 10>So you know that that's that's one of the things

897
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 10>that people think is sociopaths don't have emotions. They do,

898
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:30.039
<v Speaker 10>they're just not attached to appropriate what we would consider

899
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 10>human normal objects. They're they're they're things, not people, right exactly.

900
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 10>Uh So, how did you deal with the loss of

901
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 10>your last pet?

902
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Doc? Was there?

903
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Was there a lot of you know, is there a

904
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 1>bourbon involved?

905
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 4>No?

906
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 9>No, it's actually kind of interesting.

907
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 10>I was in New York City and I was literally

908
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 10>getting on my plane and my wife calls me in

909
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 10>there at the vet and they they put our cat down.

910
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 4>The cat.

911
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 10>Cat was in misery and not nothing we could do.

912
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 10>And so my kids and my wife they they stayed

913
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 10>with the pet and I'm flying back. I get in

914
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 10>like eleven thirty, and they saved the pet for me.

915
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 10>So I've got the pet and the pet and I

916
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 10>we actually drove out right then at you know, midnight

917
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 10>with a dear friend of mine, Ray Burnett, and we

918
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 10>drove out to our deer lease and we went down

919
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 10>about one hundred yards from where our deer lease was,

920
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 10>and we dug a deep hole and had a service

921
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 10>and all that kind of stuff, you know, just very

922
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:44.559
<v Speaker 10>personal and quiet and quick. And it's interesting every time

923
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 10>I go out to the you know, I take my

924
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 10>little walk out by the by the pet and talk

925
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 10>talk to the cat and check on it, and you know,

926
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:01.400
<v Speaker 10>it's it's interesting, how you know, I have great sympathy

927
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 10>for loss, but I've found a way to kind of

928
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 10>keep my pet in our family. And we rescued a

929
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 10>puppy who had a boxer who had been abused severely

930
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 10>and was over two years old when we got her,

931
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 10>and the dog had never been socialized, and our cat

932
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 10>socialized the dog. So to this day, I mean, the

933
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 10>dog's sitting there at the front of my seat right now, sleeping.

934
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 10>But to this day, when the dog is excited, she

935
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 10>and happy, she growls because the cat taught her to

936
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 10>purr when you're in a good mood.

937
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So that is the dog's purr is a growl, and

938
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:47.119
<v Speaker 1>he's not getting ready to attack. He just he thinks

939
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 1>he's imitating the purr of the cat. That's wild. So

940
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a dog cat, I had a cat dog,

941
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>so right, exactly exactly, So Friday this past Friday, I

942
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 1>was on the air for Scott's Loan and I got

943
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 1>the text from my wife, I have to rush Brooksy

944
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to the vet. And I'm like, why, because he hadn't

945
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 1>shown any signs of any kind of distress. We didn't

946
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>know he was sick. We had no idea that anything

947
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 1>was wrong. And as I'm on the air, I find

948
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>out that the cat that Brooksy has passed away in

949
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the vet's office. No, so I didn't even get a

950
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>chance to have that last connection with the pet. She

951
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 1>brought to Brooksy home, and I did a little service,

952
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.559
<v Speaker 1>dug a hole and buried him in the sideyard next

953
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 1>to our other other house cat that died eight years

954
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>ago that Brooksy replaced.

955
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Not that you can ever replace him. So, so you want.

956
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 1>To talk about really being hung on a line and

957
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 1>not being prepared for anything like that, And I just

958
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>suggest that I don't know what would have been harder

959
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 1>him being sick for months and slowly declining or just

960
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>this sudden sudden death cardiac arrest that we dealt with.

961
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Right.

962
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 10>Well, you know, it's interesting because with my patients, I

963
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 10>actually deal with this and their family member's death, you know,

964
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 10>going through death and dying issues, and.

965
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 4>You know that's a tough call.

966
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 10>I know a lot of family members want to keep

967
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 10>that person with them no matter what, but oftentimes that

968
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 10>family person has been my patient for a long time,

969
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 10>and they're asking me to tell their family let them go,

970
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 10>let them go, let them go, what fightings are. They're ready,

971
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 10>they're you know, they've made their their amends to this

972
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 10>world and they're ready to move on whatever's next. And

973
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 10>you know, man, that puts me in a hard place.

974
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 10>I do always express the wishes of my patient, but

975
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 10>I don't force I mean, you know, it's not my

976
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 10>place to do that.

977
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 4>It's it's the family's decision. And you know, I hope and.

978
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 10>Hopefully they do take their loved ones feelings who's dying

979
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 10>in consideration. But you know, it's one of those things.

980
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 10>You know, we lost my wife's uncle just a few

981
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 10>weeks ago and we had the service last weekend. Actually

982
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 10>that's kind of interesting that Black Brooksy was expired at

983
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 10>that point too. But you know, I'm listening to all

984
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 10>these people say things about this person, and all I

985
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 10>can think of having been close to death before and

986
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 10>ICU for over eighteen days and like that, and what

987
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 10>helped me in the hospital was all the things those

988
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 10>people were saying about that person, and then they would

989
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 10>close it up by I wish I'd said it to

990
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 10>them when they're alive.

991
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 4>And when I was in ICU, that's what I was getting.

992
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 10>Man, I was getting inundated with people telling me all

993
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.840
<v Speaker 10>this stuff about how much they appreciated me. You know,

994
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 10>pat patience I hadn't seen over twenty years found out

995
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 10>and we're texting and even voice messages.

996
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 4>And stuff like that.

997
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 10>And man, my doctor at one point said, I don't

998
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 10>know how you survived, and he goes, the only thing

999
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.079
<v Speaker 10>I can think of is so many people just express

1000
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 10>their love to you that you just you know, there

1001
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 10>was no way you weren't going to say.

1002
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you and I you and I had

1003
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 1>some conversations during that period of time.

1004
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely and uh, absolutely wild.

1005
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 1>And when you finally got out of the hospital and

1006
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>could actually breathe on your own, it was it was miraculous.

1007
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:34.400
<v Speaker 3>For me.

1008
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, yeah, he's going through absolutely yeah.

1009
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1010
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 10>And I had to re learn to walk, and you know,

1011
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 10>he carried oxygen around with me forever. And you know,

1012
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:48.119
<v Speaker 10>it's funny because last week some of my past college

1013
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 10>students invited me to go to lunch, and man, it

1014
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 10>was it was a love fest.

1015
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean they just hugged and you know, we were crying.

1016
00:52:57.559 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it was it was sad because the place

1017
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 10>was packed and our tables over there and they're happy

1018
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 10>tears and I usually, you know, what, do I deal

1019
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 10>with emotions. So I'm usually pretty good about containing my

1020
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 10>emotions because I want to follow my patience. But in

1021
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 10>this case, man, it was just it was really really

1022
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 10>embarrassing for me. So you know, it's when you love somebody,

1023
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 10>let him know. And it's not about a sex kind

1024
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 10>of thing. It's about a love for.

1025
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Human and human kindness.

1026
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 3>And you know, just like.

1027
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 10>You know, I told you and Chris that you know,

1028
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 10>I love you guys, and I love it.

1029
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's just it's a matter of the heart.

1030
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 4>It's an amazing thing.

1031
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It's part of being human.

1032
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It's part of being human, it's part of the whole

1033
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 1>life experience. And I don't think that anything was left

1034
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>on the table that I hadn't told Brooksy. So I

1035
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>feel good about that. He knew that he was loved. Good,

1036
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He knew he was loved, and he knew that we'd

1037
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>do anything for him if we could.

1038
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 10>And you did you what that dog or that dog

1039
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 10>cat on a leash and walk your cat around.

1040
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Your neighborhood, Okay, that is like so far beyond the

1041
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 4>call of duty for a cat.

1042
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:11.079
<v Speaker 2>That is just yeah, yeah.

1043
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So one question as we finished, Doc Hubert, how are

1044
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you doing now?

1045
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to add, well.

1046
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 10>You know, I finally got back in after three years.

1047
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 10>I finally got back into the gym about about October,

1048
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 10>and then January hit and the place was slammed with

1049
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.840
<v Speaker 10>all these people with New Year's resolutions. So we've we

1050
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 10>laid off January. We started back last week and you know,

1051
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 10>just moving ahead.

1052
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 4>I need to get to the point where I can.

1053
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 10>Actively be back at and continue to do my martial arts.

1054
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 10>That is such you know, the flexibility. I've lost so.

1055
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Much of that, and it's it's it's embarrassing.

1056
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1057
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 10>Somebody used to conduce full splits at fifty, you know,

1058
00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:00.519
<v Speaker 10>and now I'm I'm like, oh wait, is my leg

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<v Speaker 10>too high when I was going up the stairs. I

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<v Speaker 10>need to go back and start stretching and getting that going.

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<v Speaker 10>So other than that, I think I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>My my brain's functioning pretty good. You know that's important.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, we're just moving right along and just

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00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 10>keeping our family going and staying in touch with our

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00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:22.840
<v Speaker 10>friends like you and.

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00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 4>Krista, and I'm just you know, I'm just amazed and

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<v Speaker 4>happy to be alive.

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<v Speaker 10>Legitimately, I'm not I'm not being narcissistic or anything else

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<v Speaker 10>like that.

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00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 4>It's a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you are as always amazing, and thank you for

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00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>just being there. You didn't give me any great advice,

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00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>but you know what just hearing your voice did wonders

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00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 1>for my healing, and well.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I don't know how I don't want to

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00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.880
<v Speaker 10>shift into therapy while we're on the air. I just

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00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 10>you know, and that's you know, since I know you personally,

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<v Speaker 10>I just I intentionally kind of stayed away from telling

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00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 10>you to do very specific things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no, here, here's the thing, doc, Doc, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. As I said, just talking to you is

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00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>therapy for me. Every time we talk. Awesome and I

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00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it so much. I appreciate your friendship and your

1085
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>love and uh, your availability. Uh and you as always

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00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 1>are amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, don't don't don't jump off and take the

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<v Speaker 10>first cat that comes along, Okay, to give yourself some

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00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 10>time to grieve and you'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're we're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Week and we the knee jerk was to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the animal shelter this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and so we're gonna wait a little while longer. Anyway,

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00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 1>need need a need a furry face in the window.

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<v Speaker 10>Brother, Absolutely absolutely, And you know, I I know when

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<v Speaker 10>my puppy goes, I'm just going to be crushed. H

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00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 10>I'm more attached to this, this animal that I've got

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00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.960
<v Speaker 10>right here in front of me than I can remember

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00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 10>since maybe you know my first dog, Macaroni, when I

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00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 10>was about seven, died, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, I remember Macaroni. I will be will I

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<v Speaker 1>will be available for you when and if that happens. Doc, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you're always there for me. Thank you, Doctor

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00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 1>John Huber. On the Nightcap, a bonus phone call on

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00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W organization do from a legal

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint and from a practical standpoint for women in distress

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00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>dealing with a pregnancy, and uh it's a great option

1112
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and they offer lots of great options besides killing the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Compasscare USA is the name of that organization, and the

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<v Speaker 1>man behind it is Reverend Jim Hardin, who's back on

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<v Speaker 1>the Nightcap. Reverend Jim, It's wonderful to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm doing really well.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks for having me back as an honor.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that in New York State you are running

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<v Speaker 1>for the US House of Representatives in the twenty first

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00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:21.960
<v Speaker 1>district in the in Congress. What's going on there? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about this effort and why you decided to throw

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<v Speaker 1>your hat into the ring.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, so the rumors are true. New York's twenty first

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<v Speaker 11>district currently is represented by Congressman at Lae Stefanic and

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<v Speaker 11>she has been named by President Trump as the next

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<v Speaker 11>Ambassador of the United Nations, which means that as soon

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<v Speaker 11>as she resigned, likely in April, a special election will

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<v Speaker 11>be called. And I have thrown my head in the

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<v Speaker 11>ring because it's right. Not only is it right in

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<v Speaker 11>my backyard, but I've been fighting liberal corruption in government

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<v Speaker 11>for twenty five years we have and right now I

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<v Speaker 11>believe we're in a political revival of sorts and the

1134
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.960
<v Speaker 11>time is ripe. We we could we could put another

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<v Speaker 11>career politician in that position, but but is that Is

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<v Speaker 11>this the right time for that? And my my, my

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<v Speaker 11>thought is I'm perfect for this job at this moment

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<v Speaker 11>in time there's only two kinds of people that run

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<v Speaker 11>for office. There is a person that wants to make

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<v Speaker 11>a name for themselves and there's a person who wants

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<v Speaker 11>to do something. And I've been doing this for years.

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<v Speaker 11>I've been fighting liberal corruption. I've been I've stood strong

1143
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:39.800
<v Speaker 11>against domestic terrorism when we were fired, I uncovered the

1144
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.679
<v Speaker 11>politization of law enforcement and had a battle with the

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<v Speaker 11>Biden administration. I you know, fought weaponization of legislation when

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<v Speaker 11>they targeted us by New York local target sorry New

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<v Speaker 11>York Governor Hocal tart Us. We've been fighting law fair

1148
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<v Speaker 11>New York training anal Letitia James suit us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>this is the kind of thing that we know all about,

1150
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.519
<v Speaker 11>and we're we're rooting out corruption as we speak in

1151
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 11>the federal government. And I've been fighting it and know

1152
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 11>how to fight it. You need a strong moral compass.

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<v Speaker 11>You need to understand the role of what it means

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<v Speaker 11>to be human under God, as well as the role

1155
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<v Speaker 11>of government and human human affairs. And this is what's

1156
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<v Speaker 11>required for you know, turning America back around, recivilizing America,

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01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 11>as well as getting getting the economy and the appropriate

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01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:30.519
<v Speaker 11>family policies back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>Right well, you know, and there are there are more

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01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and more people of faith who are deciding that they

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01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:41.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to do exactly what you're doing. And a

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01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are are winning elections in their in

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<v Speaker 1>their districts, and it's wonderful to see. And it's part

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01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.760
<v Speaker 1>of this wonderful rebirth of American democracy and God is

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01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.760
<v Speaker 1>leading the way and that's just incredible, it really is.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, the decoration of the pendences that we're endowed

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<v Speaker 11>by our creator, capital seat, not our government, with certain

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01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 11>inalienable rights, the first of which, the most important of which,

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<v Speaker 11>the right upon which all other rights are predicated, is

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<v Speaker 11>the right to life. And we've been fighting for making

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<v Speaker 11>sure that all people are protected equally under law, including

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<v Speaker 11>preborn boys and girls, for decades. We understand what that means.

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<v Speaker 11>We understand the sacrifice it takes, the work it takes,

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01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:31.480
<v Speaker 11>the the commitment, the you know, the money, everything that's

1175
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 11>that needs to be coordinated to save human lives. In

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01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 11>protectumar the role of government is to protect human lives, Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>That's basically it. And and so they reward those who

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01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:45.920
<v Speaker 11>do good and punish those who do evil. And the

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01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 11>fact that you've got Christians stepping up to the plate

1180
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:53.599
<v Speaker 11>is a I think a return to a step toward

1181
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:58.800
<v Speaker 11>a spiritual revival, because, as John Adams said, you know this,

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01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 11>this particular constitutional form of government is suitable only for

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01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:06.199
<v Speaker 11>a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for

1184
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 11>any other that you know, we have to be able

1185
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.519
<v Speaker 11>to govern ourselves, which means we have to know what

1186
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.920
<v Speaker 11>it means to be human under God. God is the

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01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.039
<v Speaker 11>standard of good and and right, which is one of

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01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 11>the reasons why in a rule of loss system like ours,

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<v Speaker 11>we've got the Ten Commandments written on the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 11>doors because they're not the final authority. God is, and

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01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:27.800
<v Speaker 11>at some point in time we're all going to have

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<v Speaker 11>to answer to him for what we did in this life.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, you know, you talk about life, liberty and

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01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 1>the pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>What's first life?

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys have been at the forefront of protecting life,

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01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:47.079
<v Speaker 1>all life. Mothers lives, unborn babies lives, and and all

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01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 1>the people around them families lives. And I just respect

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<v Speaker 1>that so much what you do. And I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody would firebomb a clinic or that is trying

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01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 1>to preserve and save lives. But yet it happened at

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<v Speaker 1>Compass Care. Reverend Harden, I wish you the best. Not

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01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in my district, I can't vote for you, but I

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01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 1>can certainly I can certainly root for you from the sidelines,

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01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and we will definitely be praying for you in your effort.

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<v Speaker 1>So once at least Stephonic officially resigns her seat, then

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01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.639
<v Speaker 1>they'll schedule the special election.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, at the moment, at least Satanic resigns her seat,

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01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 11>which willctly be in April after the congressional elections. Special

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<v Speaker 11>elections in Florida are short up. Then the assuming that

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<v Speaker 11>Kathy Hochel at the Liberal correct politicians in New York

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<v Speaker 11>don't change the special election law, which they try to

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01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 11>do by the way already, then the election will be

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<v Speaker 11>called sometime eighty days seventy to eighty days after that.

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<v Speaker 11>So Kathy Hope will call a special election in ten

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<v Speaker 11>days after she resigns, and then seventy eight days after

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01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:00.480
<v Speaker 11>that will be electioned, so likely be in July. This

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01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 11>particular elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you'll you'll probably need some help raising money, so

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<v Speaker 1>give us a call, take.

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<v Speaker 3>Care and you got it. You got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Thank you, Reverend Jim Hardin, and

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<v Speaker 1>with that we are done with this nightcap. Back next

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night, god willing, and I'll talk to you Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>morning on the Saturday Morning edition. Right now, we honor

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<v Speaker 1>America with the playing of our Star Spangled banner. Canadians

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<v Speaker 1>shut up. Seven hundred WLW
