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Speaker 3: We're back to our home ground, the studio where we
Speaker 3: started it all. But it should have been a happy,
Speaker 3: you know, resumption at this place, but not for people
Speaker 3: like Sorrow. We're sitting here and you know, till last week,
Speaker 3: Sorrow was very hopeful that Daily Capitals would sneak through
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. But unfortunately, st after that Kantarra celebration
Speaker 3: in Bengaloo, nothing has gone Deli Capital's way. Likewise, two
Speaker 3: men who you know stole the limelight before the auction
Speaker 3: where they would go who would buy them? Resh Up
Speaker 3: Punth and kal Rawl swap franchises, but no change of fortunes. Again,
Speaker 3: missing out on the playoffs this season. But if you
Speaker 3: look at the way Deli and LG played, Deli with
Speaker 3: a strong enough squad should have made the playoffs is
Speaker 3: what I think LG we wrote them off. I think
Speaker 3: in the same Sledging Room episodes we gave them predictions
Speaker 3: of nine and ten. But they I don't know whether
Speaker 3: it's safe to say they punched about their weight. But
Speaker 3: again they are also missing out. So as we head
Speaker 3: into the final week of the league stages, final few
Speaker 3: days of the league stages, you know today is the
Speaker 3: day to discuss the near misses of I Peel twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five and the near misses. Maybe I thought it
Speaker 3: would be apt to start with an LSC and then
Speaker 3: probably move on to the teams like KKR and all
Speaker 3: of them. But we're not going to discuss Sunrisers, Rajasthan ANDSK.
Speaker 1: We can't call them near missus.
Speaker 3: Sunrisers with the squad that they have and with the
Speaker 3: captain that they have, King should claims pat Commings to
Speaker 3: be the best, better than whoever has played cricket.
Speaker 1: But again, the amount of points and have been finished.
Speaker 3: Even if you give them the same number of points
Speaker 3: the next season, they still might not be able to
Speaker 3: make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's how the mismarchins.
Speaker 3: I think the last three I think we should consider
Speaker 3: next season points also and then you should ye are
Speaker 3: not winning at all. But again, if I go to
Speaker 3: going to CSKS, or will get offriended. If we're seeing
Speaker 3: my wife praisers, he will befriended. So let's start with
Speaker 3: Bani Pal and Kal Rawls the main men, and Kevin Peterson.
Speaker 3: I don't know whether he had a big role to
Speaker 3: play as and it looked like we were discussing. The
Speaker 3: camaraderie between k KP Andani was working well.
Speaker 1: But what what went wrong? Sorry?
Speaker 4: You know, if you look at this team in the
Speaker 4: first half, it looked like this team is going to qualify.
Speaker 4: There was no event, but it was like they will
Speaker 4: qualify four out of four, right, yeah, and they I think.
Speaker 3: Five out of six sorry interrupted, the five out of six. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: that is ten points before the halfway mark.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, because apart from the first game where they
Speaker 4: wanted in the last four because of our brilliance, all
Speaker 4: other games they were very, very dominant with the ball
Speaker 4: and with the bat.
Speaker 1: And it had something to do with the form of
Speaker 1: mich Stark. And these are two he near and missed
Speaker 1: here and there. These three were the men who were
Speaker 1: driving the capitals.
Speaker 4: There was individual billions against RCV, against ESK against a
Speaker 4: Savich and after that, you know, I don't know what
Speaker 4: hit them.
Speaker 1: It just fell apart.
Speaker 4: And it fell apart in that game against Mumba Indians
Speaker 4: when Corona came and he made everyone wow with his
Speaker 4: short making and the way he hit bum for six
Speaker 4: boundaries and that delivery of Mitchell Standineer that took Kal's wicket,
Speaker 4: it looked like it shifted that, it tilted the momentum
Speaker 4: in Tellian. Am I favor It took away the playoff
Speaker 4: chance from the DC and gave it two am I.
Speaker 1: It looks like that.
Speaker 3: I think people are calling it the decisive ball that
Speaker 3: changed tournament.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I can't even blame that game because this
Speaker 4: management was actually caught sleeping. When you don't have a
Speaker 4: player like Harry brook On whom you have decided, Okay,
Speaker 4: he's going to be a number four batter, he's going
Speaker 4: too bad for us, and he's going to take that
Speaker 4: very important spot if he pulls out before the IPL
Speaker 4: and you don't even go and sign a replacement, If
Speaker 4: you buy someone like t for ten plus crowds and
Speaker 4: you don't give more than four games three games in
Speaker 4: the entire season. I don't know what is wrong with
Speaker 4: the management. And then as Captaincy you know himself admitted
Speaker 4: in the first couple of games that I have made
Speaker 4: some blunders, but we have won the game, so nobody
Speaker 4: will ask me questions. And then the foom. He kept
Speaker 4: on repeating those blunders and his care fraltitude came back
Speaker 4: to hurt the entire team. You know, it was like
Speaker 4: no Mumbai. I was very shocked in that Mumbaia when
Speaker 4: he asked man mak Mumbailaya no playoffs ya a battle?
Speaker 1: We I did not understand. What was that attitude?
Speaker 3: Well? Was it a little can you can we call
Speaker 3: it care free or just you know a little cocky?
Speaker 3: That is okay, it goes there, but do you think
Speaker 3: it made impact to the team. It was a very
Speaker 3: laid back attitude. And then before this game against which
Speaker 3: team last game we lost, Mumbai sent me the press
Speaker 3: conference of bowling. Oh my god, what was that? If
Speaker 3: you say those words in a prof what it is.
Speaker 1: Teller did that? I can't even repeat. No, No, I
Speaker 1: will do that, I'll do that. I'll never do that.
Speaker 1: So was asked that.
Speaker 3: In terms of like del you have had so many
Speaker 3: opening combination changes, so many batting order changes, and people
Speaker 3: rightly have asked that why do you guys discuss this
Speaker 3: in the dressing room or how do how do you
Speaker 3: come up with this? So his reply to that question,
Speaker 3: a tactically important question, is that we can't discuss anything
Speaker 3: in the match. It's too much noise. What we are
Speaker 3: thinking is that how quickly can we get out of
Speaker 3: the stadium and go to the hotel. If we win,
Speaker 3: there is a party. If we lose, there is a party.
Speaker 3: This is coming at a crucial juncture of the tournament,
Speaker 3: a match that they hinge on that if they'll qualify
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 1: So yeah, kind of tells you how how are all I.
Speaker 4: Am a prouder and I call them the banter franchise.
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, I ask you fans, it is my FRENCHII.
Speaker 4: That is a band of franchise. It's not asked. We
Speaker 4: have have proved themselves in this season and my team,
Speaker 4: oh my god, what have they done this season?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what he said.
Speaker 3: One of the things. Two of the things that he said,
Speaker 3: he said that extra Battelli is laid back. And you said,
Speaker 3: did he get too cocky? Can it go like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think both of them are true. But not for
Speaker 3: Exer but for the DC management. They were laid back
Speaker 3: in not signing a replacement for Brook number one, then
Speaker 3: multiple of their battles when they fell ill or got injured,
Speaker 3: and cocky because they thought that kil Rahul will do
Speaker 3: everything for them, like even in the middle or even
Speaker 3: in the opening when they lost the match against GT.
Speaker 1: The video that DC put out.
Speaker 3: Was praising going all praises of I didn't like that
Speaker 3: tone of the this is how you ye bad? Yes,
Speaker 3: this is so you didn't like the tone of that,
Speaker 3: you know interview. Also some somebody you know you are
Speaker 3: before a must swin match. You're saying, okay, Kate Rowel
Speaker 3: sets the standards, you have to aspire to be like him.
Speaker 1: That's I don't know. Is that the right way to speak.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not very sure.
Speaker 4: And you know what, like King Shuk said that this
Speaker 4: cocky and kreitude fits right on Daily Captain's management, I
Speaker 4: agree with him. I remember petersn't came for a press
Speaker 4: conference and you were asked, why is where he studid Trajan?
Speaker 4: If he's fit, why is he not playing in spite
Speaker 4: of answering that question, he actually argued with the reporter,
Speaker 4: He's like, you tell me where should you play him?
Speaker 4: Every player in our team knows that he will get
Speaker 4: chances when he has to get chances. Our bowling attack
Speaker 4: is great. Oh my god, your bowling attack is great.
Speaker 4: All your all the tournament. You were lying on Mitch
Speaker 4: Stack and Stark used to give you wickets in the
Speaker 4: power play and Colia used to stem the run a
Speaker 4: flow in the middle overs and give you wickets. Apart
Speaker 4: from him, no other Ballerpi degates Kumar when he picked
Speaker 4: up two fifty runs. He did not He picked up
Speaker 4: two wickets in six seven message.
Speaker 1: The season he didn't play. I mean, what are you
Speaker 1: up to? Gave Pitterson and then move up to the maltiifaication. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Biggest talk for me was the team is playing. Okay,
Speaker 4: you have won four games out of five grade, but
Speaker 4: then you have to be serious. A serious team will
Speaker 4: go on to continue that momentum like I did when
Speaker 4: they got the momentum. But here our mentor goes to
Speaker 4: Maldi for trip and he misses two games and Kalahole
Speaker 4: in fact called it out.
Speaker 1: Who is a mentor?
Speaker 4: A mentor is someone who goes on Maldive trip in
Speaker 4: between the IPL So I don't know what the managments
Speaker 4: up to.
Speaker 3: I thought this was a good season for you know,
Speaker 3: DELI to you know, get that give those loyal fans
Speaker 3: something back.
Speaker 1: You know, you had a great team.
Speaker 3: You had a couple of match winners there, Mitchell Stark
Speaker 3: coming back, Kale Rahul and the top JFM.
Speaker 1: What about you say, and that season the musical chair
Speaker 1: that they did with the opening spots. Pourell.
Speaker 3: I don't know what harm he has done. He was
Speaker 3: thrown either O there he was giving you good starts
Speaker 3: farf he was not getting those runs. But you you
Speaker 3: suddenly opened with Karunair. You didn't persist with him so
Speaker 3: much of confusion.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Has spoken tall words in the past,
Speaker 1: like taking a dig at.
Speaker 3: Stephen Fleming saying he's never won anywhere else when he's
Speaker 3: not played with DONI. When you say all those things,
Speaker 3: you should be you know, you should do better as
Speaker 3: in like these kinds of tactical flaws that we are
Speaker 3: able to understand.
Speaker 1: That is very you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I thought while watching the
Speaker 3: DC match, correct me if I'm wrong, Which match?
Speaker 1: Which match?
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go back to the first game
Speaker 3: when against Lucknow, like this team, the game was done.
Speaker 3: Comes Vipraj comes first game of the season and they
Speaker 3: do the unthinkable. They make DC win. How many matches
Speaker 3: do you guys? Thinks has played after that as a
Speaker 3: as a full time batter. Yeah, he and samir is
Speaker 3: we were seeing padding up for an impact per place
Speaker 3: and I did not understand that. And if as does
Speaker 3: bad that well, and you have tristan stubs also in
Speaker 3: the lower middle order. Push stubs in the middle, push
Speaker 3: them up, make them like this is the same problem
Speaker 3: that KKR had this season where Russell, Ringku and Ramande
Speaker 3: were so late that they could not create, like generate
Speaker 3: an impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that same with DC. Yeah, absolutely, And it
Speaker 1: is not just that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So if you look at this team, you know,
Speaker 4: my biggest problem with the captain was have you seen
Speaker 4: that movie?
Speaker 1: It is a dialogue.
Speaker 4: Ball humphust back, humphust brother. This is serious league, the
Speaker 4: world's best seed in the league. There are serious international
Speaker 4: cricketers playing here. Plan it accordingly. They are captains who
Speaker 4: are innately like that innately. They want to take the
Speaker 4: bat first, ball first, and they want to get it done.
Speaker 4: And there are captains who have who are comfortable watching
Speaker 4: the game, tactically analyzing the game. And then my question
Speaker 4: is I will agree with actual batting at number four
Speaker 4: if you do not have someone of systems, subs, stretcher
Speaker 4: and our social stages batting at five and six. So
Speaker 4: Actualarty is getting those fifty balls, forty balls, he's scoring
Speaker 4: fifty four, fifty eight. If someone like Stubs gets those
Speaker 4: fifty balls, you know what he can do what he
Speaker 4: did for delicatles in his break two seasons.
Speaker 3: But did we not argue last year and previous years
Speaker 3: that Ponting was not using accept the batter better?
Speaker 1: Then why is this sudden flip?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm telling so io I was coming
Speaker 4: to that point. Also, so last season we did not
Speaker 4: have finishers stops was the only game for you at
Speaker 4: number four? Yeah, and that is why actually could not
Speaker 4: beat up the order. And our top order was here
Speaker 4: and there we signed JFM. He clicked and then Warner
Speaker 4: was ruled out. I was there for a couple of games.
Speaker 4: So there was here and there there was no number
Speaker 4: three better for us, So the top out was fixed.
Speaker 4: Now you had He knew it could give you a
Speaker 4: good power play. He could have opened with them. If
Speaker 4: Jam failed, you discarded him. He knew Faff was not
Speaker 4: fit enough to play every game. You made him the
Speaker 4: vice cheptain. I was very baffled by that decision how
Speaker 4: and why, because first of all, when you chose him,
Speaker 4: he chose him as a replacement, and then he named
Speaker 4: the vice captain on what basis Now he.
Speaker 1: Comes for a late thought in the auction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was bought in the second day he came in.
Speaker 4: We just bid for two gards and we got him.
Speaker 4: Great choice. But as a backup, you can't expect Faf
Speaker 4: to give you put in games and go and bat
Speaker 4: at tom order. You made him lead in a game
Speaker 4: and he did fairly well. I'm not believing farf heere.
Speaker 4: I'm believing the management here. So last year Auer was
Speaker 4: batting solo because we did not have finishers. This year
Speaker 4: we had finishers and we had good batterers. So actual
Speaker 4: himself did not understand where should he bat. You know,
Speaker 4: this is where you should understand as a team. Subsiden
Speaker 4: not getting in a balls. Our source is not getting
Speaker 4: in a boss. Your bowling lineup is not working up.
Speaker 4: Why don't you sign good replacements? You did not even
Speaker 4: buy a good over space. Apart from I'm sorry, his
Speaker 4: past his prime. He is injured, injury prone, He's not
Speaker 4: that fast and even when played, why was he not
Speaker 4: bling the power plays?
Speaker 1: That is what my problem was.
Speaker 4: Why is actually bowling first three of us of the
Speaker 4: power play? Why you have bought for the same thing
Speaker 4: to the power play?
Speaker 1: Jet it out? Let it out? One more game to
Speaker 1: go as well? Like who cares?
Speaker 4: I think all you can do is this Kings, But
Speaker 4: look at looking at what Pains did in that Damashala
Speaker 4: game which got a band midway.
Speaker 1: I think will us more than we will start were
Speaker 1: also very lucky.
Speaker 3: They would have lost at least two more games absolute risers,
Speaker 3: and absolutely they did not.
Speaker 1: This season could have looked much worse for them, is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but do you guys see any changes in
Speaker 3: the delic capital set or with the with the two
Speaker 3: party ownership? I think right that two sects of ownership.
Speaker 3: They want to take control of the team, administrative control
Speaker 3: of the team for two two years is what we
Speaker 3: thought we heard at the start of the season. Do
Speaker 3: you think the GMA group will be, you know, very
Speaker 3: eager to change stuff after just one season of you know,
Speaker 3: near miss or do you see accept continuing as captain.
Speaker 4: I believe they will back sure, and they will keep
Speaker 4: the coaching stuff, but the squad will have multiple changes
Speaker 4: because their overseas lineup. We look at that apart from
Speaker 4: Stubbs and a couple of games stuck, nobody actually did
Speaker 4: the job that they were supposed to do whenever they
Speaker 4: were given a chance. So your openers, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're going to Britain after what he did and he
Speaker 4: did not come back, so I don't think he is
Speaker 4: the retienional plans anymore. FAF he's done. He's done from
Speaker 4: IPL himself that this is my last year. I'm going
Speaker 4: to retire. His ideally going to retire from IPL. So
Speaker 4: now you need to actually buy good overseas openers or
Speaker 4: good would Indian young opener who can actually bat with
Speaker 4: Kal Lowell. If you don't trust have shake Pearl, then
Speaker 4: the role of a shape peril. You are not clear
Speaker 4: where you want to use him like a shape Owl
Speaker 4: has been with this uh squat for life.
Speaker 1: Three years. He has been decent, but he's not good
Speaker 1: enough to.
Speaker 4: Say you okay, you are going to be a show
Speaker 4: shot playing eleven player because as an opener, also, if
Speaker 4: you're getting these chances, you're great in the power play,
Speaker 4: you have done that, but after the power play you
Speaker 4: just don't know how to accelerate. You slow down, you
Speaker 4: don't know how to take those risks, and you don't
Speaker 4: know how to pick up those singles doubles. That is
Speaker 4: how it has gone. So there have been a lot
Speaker 4: more changes and your bowling attack, your spin attack has
Speaker 4: been great. You will You've got very good spinner this
Speaker 4: time also, and you might rain a stark I think,
Speaker 4: But I don't think you're going to retain Mukish or
Speaker 4: more for that matter, Trajan for eleven Cross, I don't think.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: There are multiple changes in the playing eleven regarding the
Speaker 4: top water batting and overseas players and the.
Speaker 1: Bowling, but you are okay with continuing as captain and
Speaker 1: continues you just can't do so I.
Speaker 4: Will say one simple thing, you can't throughout captain after
Speaker 4: one season.
Speaker 1: You need that stability.
Speaker 4: Put those captain for the first time, and he was
Speaker 4: supposed to make those mistakes he made those mistics, he
Speaker 4: acknowledged them. Now it will be something which I want
Speaker 4: to see next year that does he learn from these
Speaker 4: mistakes and he comes back a better captain or he
Speaker 4: comes back as the same captain who is as you said,
Speaker 4: cocky or as said carefully.
Speaker 1: Two things here, and I'm going to go back to
Speaker 1: the auction last year.
Speaker 3: If JMR or js W, whoever that was, I'm thinking
Speaker 3: GMR decided that Punt is not the way to go
Speaker 3: forward and we are going to release him, then PA
Speaker 3: General shouldn't have come out and said that Punth is
Speaker 3: going to be our top guy. Second, when once Punt
Speaker 3: went out, which I'm again thinking is a GMR decision
Speaker 3: in the auction, they shouldn't have been twenty cross FORER
Speaker 3: Pnth okay.
Speaker 1: So that has to stop.
Speaker 3: If it is jmr's control administrative control for the two years,
Speaker 3: give it to JMA.
Speaker 1: Let them do whatever the hell they want.
Speaker 3: Because they thought that parting away with Ricky Ponting, who's
Speaker 3: a recognized coach now was a good idea and to
Speaker 3: bring in someone with better connect to the ground in
Speaker 3: India so that they can pull in better Indian players.
Speaker 3: They got that part done they got the staff also,
Speaker 3: which is very Indian and ground connect in nature. So fine,
Speaker 3: Matthew More Matthew motto was a late announcement if I'm
Speaker 3: not wrong. But if if that has happened, let them
Speaker 3: do what they want. Give ugs are the captains, figure
Speaker 3: out their details, keep their players and whatever else. If
Speaker 3: you start chopping and changing once again after the post
Speaker 3: on xt from Badgindal saying that there will be there,
Speaker 3: there will be exactly because that is infighting introspect, that
Speaker 3: is infighting. Now now now I can blame you that
Speaker 3: you haven't taken the team to the right direction, but
Speaker 3: that does not help the team. They will have to
Speaker 3: change the whole setup then, and that has to stop
Speaker 3: at some point. They have to like how do they
Speaker 3: say it, They're to synchronize at one point. So I'm
Speaker 3: thinking that a couple of changes. Obviously, yes, JFM goes out,
Speaker 3: Fast goes out, maybe one of the bowlers go out.
Speaker 3: But the people that you've shown trust into, the people
Speaker 3: that you've bought in for a lot of money, like
Speaker 3: not to and all you keep them, you trust them
Speaker 3: for one or two seasons and figure out where the
Speaker 3: team goes from here.
Speaker 1: What about LC what.
Speaker 4: About l what about You know LG has overseewed is underceived.
Speaker 4: That's all I will describe it. Because when I saw
Speaker 4: Zahi Khan as a coach or my mentor coach, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy is going to give LG a very good
Speaker 4: Indians score and a very good bowling attack.
Speaker 1: At least they will have.
Speaker 4: And I was very shocked at their auction bise because
Speaker 4: if you look at their auction picks and retention. Also
Speaker 4: for that matter, you retain injury prone two paces, Moshi
Speaker 4: Khan and Manchado. Didn't you know that they are not
Speaker 4: going to be fit enough to play and you shell
Speaker 4: out out fifteen eighteen golds for both of them? Why
Speaker 4: was that they did a great thing by retaining Nicholas
Speaker 4: Pon for twenty one girls. He deserves every bit of
Speaker 4: that money, A great game change, the greatest tent repairer
Speaker 4: of the can for me, Nicholas Pud If he gets going,
Speaker 4: nobody can stop him. Finehop Pnth. You know when Dishop
Speaker 4: Punth and Delly Capitals, I first heard the report that
Speaker 4: wants to move out. I was very shocked because I
Speaker 4: am a big DC fan and I have always seen
Speaker 4: playing for my team, whether it's India or DC. I
Speaker 4: have never seen in opposition Jersey, but I was very short. Okay,
Speaker 4: ship and going auction and this will happen, And then
Speaker 4: that bidding happened. We bid for him. Then LSG came
Speaker 4: and then LG owner uh raised twenty cent cross and
Speaker 4: he got ship and then they were LG was very happy.
Speaker 1: The little places are happy.
Speaker 4: Everyone was very happy. But my simple point was, and
Speaker 4: I was very very I I think I talked to
Speaker 4: you or you somebody in the team that shop one
Speaker 4: for twenty seven cross. Has he proved his credentials as
Speaker 4: a battle levelone captaincy and we get keeping as a
Speaker 4: battle very bat and then the signed a top art
Speaker 4: are heavy of overseas battles like the signed Markram and
Speaker 4: Mitchell mars who we thought will not click, but.
Speaker 1: They have actually over receieved.
Speaker 4: Again these two, they have been one of the best
Speaker 4: opening players of this season five plus fifty plus part.
Speaker 3: Look at and Mitchell Marsha's stats against the other seasons
Speaker 3: that they have mated exactly difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so they have actually overshiped.
Speaker 4: They got them for both for around six seven cores,
Speaker 4: both of them but then this shelter for Bishop and
Speaker 4: there bowling attack for two players. Yeah, and then their
Speaker 4: bowling attack. I am all for a cars test bowler,
Speaker 4: but a bowler, I'm sorry. And Ash was gonna expect
Speaker 4: her to lead the bowling attack.
Speaker 1: But he was injured.
Speaker 4: I wish was injured. How many matches in last season?
Speaker 4: Two three, two uches, three and a half and half?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: And then he played for India. He again got injured,
Speaker 4: back injury, came back, did not play a single match
Speaker 4: in the domestic Yeah, exactly. Then the last I spotted
Speaker 4: him was in the w p L. He was sharing
Speaker 4: r CB in the ground. After that, all I heard
Speaker 4: was he was n C. He was an n C
Speaker 4: A and very soon he will be back. He will
Speaker 4: be back after first five games, first six games. Then
Speaker 4: he came back and again got ruled out. Then you
Speaker 4: signed his placement. Finally said okay, Indian bowling attacks and
Speaker 4: we need to sign an overseas good pacer because you
Speaker 4: had you not trust him enough.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a game from Indies.
Speaker 4: So I am saying, okay, you signed okay, and he
Speaker 4: has been good in one, two, one or two games.
Speaker 1: He has played.
Speaker 4: Then he's pin bowling attack. You got a great find
Speaker 4: this time diariety, the man with the notebook salvation. Okay,
Speaker 4: we always one of the best fins of this year. Contoversial,
Speaker 4: you might say.
Speaker 1: But great. I love him. I love whatever he does
Speaker 1: on the field. Also good bowler.
Speaker 3: He does the job for his team, even if he
Speaker 3: does those san trumps. I think rab was a big
Speaker 3: lid down this season.
Speaker 4: Yeah number one a half days ago, I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: and now he can't he wolds. I think the way
Speaker 4: he was managed by the Indian team also, I think
Speaker 4: that also kind of hurt his confidence, Like he was
Speaker 4: your number one T twenty bowler, but you went with
Speaker 4: Ashwin for twenty twenty four and then you bought why
Speaker 4: not give?
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a story that we need to explore.
Speaker 3: I think what happened Rashni like one of the missing bowlers,
Speaker 3: But then did roachman not trusted enough from there to here?
Speaker 3: This season has been his worst. This season has been
Speaker 3: his worst. But I wanted to ask both of you
Speaker 3: what went wrong with Richard Punt? Have you c Yes,
Speaker 3: we know that he's not highly rated T twenty player.
Speaker 3: For that matter, white ball player. But have you ever
Speaker 3: seen him play like that? We were discussing when he was,
Speaker 3: you know, swiping at everything, not being able to connect anything.
Speaker 1: Is it confidence? Is it? What did the Champions Trophy
Speaker 1: snub affect him?
Speaker 3: What is what went wrong for RP seventeen even before
Speaker 3: Champions Trophy snub or let's say when he did not
Speaker 3: come back for the Odia World Cup, even before then,
Speaker 3: when was he a force to reckon with in T
Speaker 3: twenty or T twenty he had he had a great
Speaker 3: season from the perspective of where he was in that
Speaker 3: last one and a half year, four hundred five hundred.
Speaker 3: So every season he guaranteed, No four hundred five hundred
Speaker 3: one is that? Is that do that you throw but
Speaker 3: there and you don't tell how many calories it carries?
Speaker 1: But that is true. That is true one fight against
Speaker 1: CSK and that also came in a losing cause. Yes,
Speaker 1: so no.
Speaker 3: So I was checking someone that century that punts pernth
Speaker 3: hits his first century. I saw somebody arguing that since then,
Speaker 3: the way the T twenty template has gone and the
Speaker 3: way puns fighting has gone, the graph has always been down.
Speaker 3: And consider this that last season was an extremely, extremely
Speaker 3: high scoring season even in that respect was punts, runs
Speaker 3: and strike rate in the top five.
Speaker 1: No, you would not argue that.
Speaker 3: So that is why I'm saying that whenever you throw
Speaker 3: this four hundred five hundred one season now, always carry
Speaker 3: that weight.
Speaker 1: How did that affect his team? Without that, we cannot
Speaker 1: make a context out of it.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I think it's a culmination of
Speaker 3: all the hype that pun This had over years that
Speaker 3: he was an excellent test player, a decent odio player,
Speaker 3: but not a very established T twenty player. I still
Speaker 3: remember that interview with Haa if I'm not wrong, yes,
Speaker 3: when he was asked about your white ball stats and
Speaker 3: red ball stats, he said, no, don't compare me.
Speaker 1: Now compare when I'm twenty seven thirty.
Speaker 3: But I think when he broke into the Test scenes
Speaker 3: scoring those runs at that pace, he was naturally people
Speaker 3: thought that, okay, if he can do this in Test cricket,
Speaker 3: he can do this in T twenties and odias also.
Speaker 3: But that was something that kind of he took it
Speaker 3: for granted, and when results did not go his way,
Speaker 3: and that twenty seven crore I think played on his
Speaker 3: mind as if you fail once in that setup, then
Speaker 3: probably you will have touts coming into your mind.
Speaker 1: And from the way he batted, I have never seen
Speaker 1: punt this confused.
Speaker 3: You can't argue against puns, technique, puns temperament, but that
Speaker 3: lack of clarity in his short selection, lack of clarity
Speaker 3: even where he won too bad. A couple of times
Speaker 3: he did not come out to bat. Once he comes
Speaker 3: out to number three, number four, will.
Speaker 1: You not come out of that or was he not
Speaker 1: let out to that?
Speaker 3: That's also something we have to like think, No, I
Speaker 3: don't think in this season, I don't think matter of
Speaker 3: puns caliber, you can tell him don't bat you are
Speaker 3: you care?
Speaker 1: If you are justin langer, you know I will say
Speaker 1: one more thing. It is not just this.
Speaker 4: So it all started before the auction, the moment you
Speaker 4: saw Rishapon being so confident that he put out a
Speaker 4: tweet how much money will I get if I go
Speaker 4: in the auction? He was very over confident about himself.
Speaker 4: He said, I am the star of this ideal this side.
Speaker 4: I have came back from injury. I am no more human,
Speaker 4: I'm super human.
Speaker 1: And they paraded him around like a star. Also the auction,
Speaker 1: everything was like that. Fine.
Speaker 4: Then he got pigs and then that interview where he says,
Speaker 4: I was very worried when Punjabkin's game.
Speaker 1: You should not do that. You can't do that, you
Speaker 1: should not.
Speaker 3: Do Apparently have paid lucknow super Giants thirty three cross
Speaker 3: to keep one there two games.
Speaker 4: They have played their depeated in both the games and shares. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they picked and he has been excelling at every front.
Speaker 1: They fine.
Speaker 4: Second thing, the shop puns was expected to light up
Speaker 4: this Asciato and he just could not. Apart from that
Speaker 4: one knock where he actually went against Gumbi's dick take.
Speaker 4: You have to look at see the ball and then
Speaker 4: hit the ball, look at the team situation and then
Speaker 4: play that kind of knock that actually dentted his content
Speaker 4: a lot. And third and most important thing champiosophic combined
Speaker 4: with his fitness, do you see he's fit enough to
Speaker 4: play a game, let alone a test match? Have you
Speaker 4: seen him keeping? How many mystics has been he been
Speaker 4: making every game? You know, unless you would have won
Speaker 4: the first game against DC, he needs that something emotion.
Speaker 1: His keeping has been supper. You know, he was a
Speaker 1: dete keeper.
Speaker 4: He was not a great keeper, but his fitness I
Speaker 4: am absolutely shocked his fitness, his decision't making okay, he's.
Speaker 1: He's keeping has gone back to that comparison era and
Speaker 1: you talk about actually Punt looks the cocky guy, and
Speaker 1: he was cocky also when you.
Speaker 3: Try to do The biggest thing of the season, highlight
Speaker 3: of the season was none of his postmatch interviews made
Speaker 3: sense exactly exactly. Ask him anything, He'll be like, no,
Speaker 3: we did, And that is the lack of clarity that
Speaker 3: you talk about.
Speaker 1: My biggest shock was your team has been out of
Speaker 1: the tournament.
Speaker 4: You're going to play a game, and before the game starts,
Speaker 4: half an hour before that, you are busy on Twitter
Speaker 4: slamming people for questioning you might be thrown out of.
Speaker 1: LG next season. You do not have to do that.
Speaker 1: You are a ship one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go in bad, you prove your performance and
Speaker 4: let the management you know that you are not doing.
Speaker 1: And this has become the new norm that creators are
Speaker 1: coming out of social media.
Speaker 4: Great, you want to display rumors, but just half an
Speaker 4: hour before a toss, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't see it right.
Speaker 3: And half of the time it is kind of because
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking for or against anyone here. But half
Speaker 3: of the times when those rumors have been dismissed, they
Speaker 3: have turned out to be true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: That's something you need to keep in and this shows
Speaker 4: that the match not playing in your mind. What is
Speaker 4: playing in your mind is, oh I am you know
Speaker 4: that you're going something has gone wrong and the management
Speaker 4: might not retain your next season. So you actually want
Speaker 4: to write on Twitter and show people that know I
Speaker 4: am confident that I have good letten with management.
Speaker 1: This PR game has stop here like it's becoming too
Speaker 1: as a U.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course people need to be need they need
Speaker 3: they need the voices to be put out, but to go,
Speaker 3: like you said, half an hour before a match randomly
Speaker 3: reply to a tweet too, that's kind of unnecessary. And
Speaker 3: I'm just worried that maybe Punt if he goes to
Speaker 3: England and if he doesn't perform, if he gets out
Speaker 3: of this Test team by any chance, might be there
Speaker 3: like he might be out of the out of international
Speaker 3: credit for some time unless until he goes back. I
Speaker 3: just hope that doesn't happen. I just hope that this
Speaker 3: IPL clarity doesn't translate. He doesn't take it to England
Speaker 3: because India needs punt, the better punt the wicked keeper
Speaker 3: in England more than any time now because if you
Speaker 3: have seriously speaking, if you really think one intimidating batter, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, throw punches at that basketball in England team,
Speaker 3: that might be a punt and yesterday at the top
Speaker 3: of the order. So I am just I am just
Speaker 3: thinking that it all shouldn't crash and burn. Now Punth
Speaker 3: just takes a good break, goes maybe to on a
Speaker 3: road trip and then you know, kind.
Speaker 1: Of gets gets fresh against the road trip again.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying that gets you know, that's absolutely not
Speaker 3: too hard, but he kind of refreshes and gets heads
Speaker 3: to England in.
Speaker 1: A clearer mind space. Right, that should be better.
Speaker 3: I am I genuinely want punt to you know, smash
Speaker 3: those England bowlers, you know, play those River scoops against
Speaker 3: Tongue and Anderson's whoever and who coaches is playing County, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Tim Saudi coaches. But a change of pace will be
Speaker 3: good for Punth hopefully.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Format also yeah, but that.
Speaker 3: It's not like the Indian team is also very settled
Speaker 3: at the moment right now. And also these captain zero
Speaker 3: we'll get to know. By the time this episode releases,
Speaker 3: people all of you might know who is the next
Speaker 3: India Test Captain. It's it's gonna be a huge announcement
Speaker 3: on Saturday, so let's wait for that and in this
Speaker 3: List Sledging Room episode we'll talk about it in detail,
Speaker 3: probably early next week when we get you know, the details,
Speaker 3: when we listen to the Express conferences, when hopefully O
Speaker 3: our current coun beers justify and give give the reasons
Speaker 3: for picking this X or hy over x or Y.
Speaker 3: Tell us why we're at and Rod are not there
Speaker 3: in the team, whether we're getting back the old guards
Speaker 3: for England.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an.
Speaker 3: Interesting week with the IPL playoffs coming up, the last
Speaker 3: few games to go. The playoffs were stilled like seven
Speaker 3: games to go and it's the earliest that it has
Speaker 3: happened and the top two battle remains. But it's gonna
Speaker 3: be fun. It's gonna be fun this week with plenty
Speaker 3: of things coming up. The one off test again between
Speaker 3: England and zimbabweis on and we will be heading to
Speaker 3: the World Test Championship final as well. But a quick prediction,
Speaker 3: sort of like we always do, shook before we sign
Speaker 3: off from this episode what playoffs? Playoffs isn't like we'll
Speaker 3: get to the no punt out of LG or not
Speaker 3: no no, no, no no, not happening should not happen
Speaker 3: retention or not.
Speaker 4: I think that is a debatable call because they will
Speaker 4: talk about it, but month is not be moving out
Speaker 4: of LG.
Speaker 1: But if punt then kill places again.
Speaker 4: Not because as long as even if DC owner Pa
Speaker 4: will love to take his younger brother Chap back in DC,
Speaker 4: you don that happening. Yeah, and as he won't and
Speaker 4: even will never go back there, you should.
Speaker 1: You should have some respect.
Speaker 3: Also, I think I know that it's a professional world,
Speaker 3: but still like have some respect respect, you know. On
Speaker 3: that note, we last our listeners and viewers also for
Speaker 3: their thoughts on these two teams and whether they can
Speaker 3: come back next year and on behalf of Staging Room.
Speaker 3: We just sincerely hope that once forgets this, IPL wakes
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