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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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the podcast for All Sports Discussion dot com. This is

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P O r T S d A c C. We're

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waiting here a second for our guest and for Matthew

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to join. I just see Matthew now he's online and Matthew,

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we're still waiting on Brian to join us.

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Speaker 2: It's that's good. It's good to hear that, Jeff. Because

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I was having a little difficulty getting getting hooked up

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through my phone tonight, so I had to go through

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I had actually had to go through my laptop tonight.

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Speaker 3: It was not working the normal way.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's something wrong with podbean

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or not or something like that, because I had a

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challenge is connecting tonight to sir?

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Speaker 4: How you doing.

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Speaker 5: Doing good? This evening? Doing good? This evening?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me now? Can you hear me. Is

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the is the volume? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can hear you loud and clear.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well that's the way to go, that's the

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way to get through life. Uh, we'll see if we

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uh see, if we see if we can reach out here,

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he says, not seeing where to join, not seeing where

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to join, That's what he's what he's saying here.

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Speaker 3: Did he get the invite?

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Speaker 4: Jeff?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 5: Yes? I sent it to Uh, yeah, you sent to Do.

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Speaker 2: You want to drop it through his drop it in

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the chat here and see if it works out.

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Speaker 3: That may be something that we want to try.

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Speaker 5: Yep. We can give that a try.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have him aboard here any minute.

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Speaker 2: I say it was Virginia Tech weekend on the blog Jeff, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In a in a in a sea of not very

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good results for the Atlantic Coast Conference this weekend. Uh yeah,

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Virginia Tech was the coach and program that probably needed

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a win the most. And yeah, it was a debacle

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Speaker 5: There's just no other way to describe it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see the game. I didn't see the game

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Speaker 5: That was probably for the best.

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Speaker 2: I was at a concert I was having I was

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having a whole lot of fun, and uh, you know,

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it appears that I probably didn't miss it. Probably didn't

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miss a whole lot. The second half I think was

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kind of a dumpster fire. Are we seeing Brian? I

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think I see you there? Can you hear us? Can

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you speak?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think Brian could can can see us? And

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he's online now he's Brian here.

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Speaker 3: We are here, we are Let me let me get

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Speaker 2: Out here and introduce here everybody. I just want to say, here,

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welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conferences. Is

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the podcast for allsports Discussion dot com. Jeffrey fan is

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the is certainly the co host and the engineer behind

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the podcast. You can follow him on Twitter at at

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talk and ACC Sports. That's at T A L K

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And tonight we have a great return guest this week

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and Brian Siegla who you can follow on Twitter at

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at S E I G five zero five two. He

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is one fourth of the Virginia Tech Football podcast Boundary Corner.

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I guess he again he's one fourth of the football

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O U N d A R y c O r

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n e R. Brian, welcome back to the All Sports

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Discussion ACC podcast for Happy to have you back and

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spending your Sunday night for us. Tell us about yourself

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and anything that you want to plug, Brian.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Yeah, it's glad, glad to be back.

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year that that we've been doing this together. Really appreciate

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the the invite back. But Jeff, Jeff and Matthew here,

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it's always a pleasure. And we've been doing this thing

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now for about six years. We had been me and

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you know, we go way back and middle school and

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both of us have been Virginia Tech football fans forever

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thirty years at this point. So we decided to put

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our our collective fandom and experience together and started a

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podcast and it's been going great hockey football record notwithstanding.

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Speaker 3: Well, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We're really happy you're spending your Sunday night with us.

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Let's get right back to the ACC football week that

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was right week two. Which ACC football team was the

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most disappointing this past week? And give us some good

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news here which team ACC team was the most impressive team?

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And I have a feeling I know where you're going

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with your answer for the first one.

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Speaker 3: The floor is here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Unfortunately for the Hokies, it's definitely them. As far

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as the biggest disappointment of this week. This was a

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game where arguably it must win for Brent Pryme in

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terms of his ability to keep his job past the

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season in my opinion, and decent showing in the first half,

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and then came out of the second half and just

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fell flat on their face and got absolutely blown out

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of the stadium at home and your home opener against

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your you know, second a second SEC opponent of the season.

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like that that second half. No one was really playing

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well defense offense. I mean, special teams didn't really get

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an opportunity because we didn't move to football. It was

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a it was a punch show, so our punter got

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a lot of work out in the second half. But

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other than that, I didn't really see anything good to

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take away from that that afternoon. Yeah, impressive. I'm gonna

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have to point the Florida State. I feel like they

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did a good job of taking care of business after

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a huge game week one. You know, you could see

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them maybe coming out with a little less juice week two,

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and they didn't do that. They went out there and

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just handled their business for four quarters and you know,

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send a lesser opponent packing there. So that was really

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my two there. I said. Unfortunately, the Hokies are are

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on the list here for least impressive for the week.

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Speaker 3: I think those are fair statements.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are probably some and Jeff would probably

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agree with this, where there were some less than impressive

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performances across the conference.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Duke.

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Speaker 2: Really had that grade of his showing against Illinois. I

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think that was kind of kind of ugly for the

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kind of ugly for the devils.

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Speaker 3: We know what Stanford is.

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coming between Virginia Tech and Stanford right now if I'm

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looking at where the bottom of the conferences right now?

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have had a better performance against Troy, but Troy is

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Speaker 3: But anything else you'd like to add, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: The Clemson in the first half of their game was

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they were getting totally outplayed by by Troy. And I

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mean they couldn't they couldn't run the ball, they couldn't

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throw the ball, The defense was getting pushed around, and

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it raised a lot of concerns. Even though Clemson did

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couple turnovers in Troy's territory for some short drives. But

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Speaker 5: The other team.

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Speaker 1: I want to say that I was really disappointed in

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but the way they lost it was bad. Bad for them,

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and you know, It's just it leaves a mark for sure,

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and that it has to be SMU. And they lost,

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you know, in overtime, I think a double overtime to Baylor.

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they were one of the big twelve favorites. But SMU

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had a two touchdown lead, you know, with eight minutes

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seven minutes left in that game.

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Speaker 5: You're playing at home.

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Speaker 1: You got to win a game like that, you gotta

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you got to experienced quarterback Kevin Jennings in that game,

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and and their defense just completely fell apart, which was

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really surprising under a red lash lea team. You know, SMU,

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with a couple of those losses. And you know, going

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on this past week, they're in the top fifteen and

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the top fifteen and now they're out of the polls,

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that defense. Just just a unforgivable collapse by the Mustangs

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you had Syracuse almost give one away

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at home against Yukon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really poor performance by Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Frank Brown had them running sprints at the

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Speaker 5: Won the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, one team of all I would say,

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you have rough results this past week in the ACC.

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Speaker 5: Got to give a little credit to NC State. That's

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their second.

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Speaker 1: Game that's came down to the wire, and you know,

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they held off an improving Virginia team with I think

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it was an interception turnover in the end zone. And

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you build confidence. I mean you've escaped, you won without

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playing you know, maybe exactly, you know, the finest football.

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no one would ever call East Carolina a pushover. And

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and Virginia is clearly an improved team. So you know,

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good good, good on a NC State for coming out

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of their victorious.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, Jeff, you're up brand.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brian, Let's go ahead and look to the

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week ahead. Which ACC football game are you looking forward

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to the most next week?

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Speaker 4: And this was a tough one. When I was looking

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at the schedule, I was like, there's there's really a

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but I actually went, I'm going with Clinton Georgia Tech here.

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I think this is the a little bit more of

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the intriguing matchup just because of how the two teams

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have played thus far in their schedule and you know,

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having a conference matchup here. You know, looking at it,

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Clemson hasn't played I think their best football really that

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you know, they as you mentioned, they struggled putting away

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Troy there. It really took them all for quarters to

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really put that one away. Uh. And you've got Georgia

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down first couple of weeks of the season. I think

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they both of them have something to prove. They have

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neither have played their best football yet, So I'm really

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interested to see how that game shakes out and what

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sort of implications that has long term as far as

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the a SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a really good point, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to pick of the two

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that's played closer to what they're capable of it, probably

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would be Georgia Tech out of Clemson for sure. But

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but they've been uncharacteristically really sloppy with the football. They

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they they they turned it around in both games after that,

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that early in games, you know, and expect to beat

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and expect to come out of there with a victory.

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that's been struggling.

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you know, to kind of get in their mojo back. So, yeah,

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great point that I don't think either one of them

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is you know, reached, you know what, I think they're

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capable of. Taking a look here at the rest of

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the schedule kind of light here in the ACC. I

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am kind of intrigued by Pittsburgh at West Virginia as

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well by brawl. West Virginia is coming off a loss

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to Ohio. Uh, the a CC badly needing some more,

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you know. Uh, p four wins and that's that's a

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golden opportunity, especially if Pitt wants to be an upper

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echelon ACC team.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Even though that's on the road, they should be coming

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out of there with a victory. That West Virginia team

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is not very good at.

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Speaker 3: All, I can tell you that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And your Pitt's schedule sets up weird too, because

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so far and then they get ready to the back

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guard for all here. So I'm really interested to see

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how that one shacks out.

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Speaker 2: Wake better be what I should say, NC State, but

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he'd be better be worried about that Wake game because

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Wakes giving them a hard time.

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Speaker 3: Really, if you look at the history.

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Speaker 2: Over the last over the last decade, Wake has not

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been a pushover for Ency State.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and and we almost missed with this one.

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I know where you know what I thought about it

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is Miami playing South Florida. That game was not really

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on on the radar, you know for Miami schedule with

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Notre Dame in week one and then Florida. You know,

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also in the month of September, South Florida's coming off

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a road victory in the Swamp and they absolutely obliterated

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Boise State and that is one of the best games

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in the country this weekend. So Miami, I mean, I

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still feel like Miami is in a great position to

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win that game. I mean, to ask South Florida to

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knockoff Florida in the Swamp and then go down the

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Coral Gables and win.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a massive task. But they need to

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have Miami's.

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Speaker 1: Full attention in that game because that South Florida team

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is really feisty. All right, Brian, Let's let's move on

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with the next question in the ACC. Which ACC team

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could be on upset that alert next week? And we

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could could be Miami here if they are, you know,

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looking ahead to a game on their schedule or otherwise

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just sleep walking on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you kind of you know, very the

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lead there a little bit there, because I'm actually going

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with Miami here. I definitely think they are primed for

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letdown and maybe this game isn't the letdown that we

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think it might be. I mean, yes, Miami's ranked in

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the top five. Now you've got South Florida after two

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victories over ranked opponents. You had a top twenty five

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in Boise, and I think Florida was ranked thirteen, you

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know this past week when they took them down. So

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it's gonna be really interesting to see if South Florida

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can kind of keep this really high level of play

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going heading down to Miami and see if they can

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give a very good, I think a very deep Miami

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team a run for their money. I think this is

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a Miami theme that may be a little more built

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to win than last year. But they don't have a

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singular player like a cam Ward that can really kind

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of put a team on its back when it does

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get into those adverse situations in the game. So if

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South Florida can take advantage of that, you know, they

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might be able to upset Miami in this instance.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, very good there. Let's Brian, let's step

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out of the A C C for a bid here.

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Which national FBS game are you looking forward to the

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most this week? And we're wide open with this question.

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Is can be a Power five non Power five game?

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You can even have an FCS matchup and then give

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us who you think will be the winner of that

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game or games that catch your eye for next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the one that caught my eye is the one

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ones that we've as the Hokies have a Week one

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and Week two, and you got Vanderbilt at South Carolina.

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This is a really intriguing matchup to me because South

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Carolina is, you know, still a top fifteen team. They've

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you know, it was a close game against Virginia Tech

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for four quarters and then you know, they struggled i

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think early in their matchup this weekend. You know, pulled

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away at the end pretty well, but it was definitely

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a slog there for a good portion of the first half.

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So I'm interested to see what South Carolina team rolls

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out there, because Vanderbilt has looked impressive in both of

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those games, and you know, as a as a Virginia

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Tech fan, really embarrassed us in in Lane Stadium on Saturday.

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So I'm interested to see about this game and what

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the implications are in the SEC for two teams that

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are kind of looked at it as a little bit

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of the disruptors of the kind of top echelon of

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that conference. So see which of these two can kind

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of shake free there and maybe give some of these

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other you know, the the Georgia's and the l s

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U s and all those other teams a little bit

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of a run for their money this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a game to keep an eye on.

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Another one that that I'm I'm looking at as I'm

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really intrigued by Texas A and M going to Notre Dame.

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for Notre Dame H in that game because you already

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own a head to head wind and you know, the

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higher rank Notre Dame is, the better that victory looks.

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You know, Texas A and M if they go into

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to South Bend and when that becomes another SEC team

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that's in the thick of the playoff chase, and Notre

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Dame really needs that victory because once you get past

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Texas A and M, they may not play another ranked

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team the rest of the season, and so they don't

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have a ton of opportunities to add to their resume either.

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And there's a train of thought that if Notre Dame

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loses to Texas A and M, that they won't be

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able to get back in to the top twelve because

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there's just not enough meet on that schedule. Maybe usc

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could be better than people expect, but that it's you

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know that Notre Dame would be in a good bit

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of trouble to make the playoffs if they don't beat

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Texas A and M. So I think that's a really

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intriguing game Saturday night. Also, all right, Matthew, I'm going

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to turn over to you now for our last two

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segments in the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Brian, this isn't we're kind of changing. We've changed

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our podcast format. I think you've been with us for

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a while now, and we've changed our podcast to a

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little a little format, a little bit so that we

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have two open microphone segments and the first one is

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for our guest only. And I'll tell and I'll tell

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you this, and I'm going to forward you. If you

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don't say anything about Virginia Tech football in this segment,

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I'm going to ask you about it in the next segment.

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Speaker 3: So the floor is your bread, whichever one you want.

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Speaker 4: Well, So I will lead off here by saying so

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Tuesday night, at nine pm, Boundary Corner Podcast is holding

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a Irish wake for the Virginia Tech football program. It

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was pronounced that at ten fifty seven Saturday night, so

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everyone joined in there. We're going to have mics that

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we're passing out to folks during the segment where we

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can eulogize this once great program that is on desk BET.

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And also I will add to that if anyone knows

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the coordinates for a Lazarus pit, and we would like

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to find that so we can get our football team beat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very good. Anything else you'd like to hear, anything

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else you like to add there.

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Speaker 4: Just uh. At this point, I think we understand that

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Prie is not the guy to get this thing done.

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And if Prie is not the guy to get this

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thing done, I think it's gonna start at with Babcock

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and go all the way down until we can clean

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house and marry him and find the right folks to

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put in there that can get us back to where

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we belong.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna We're gonna go

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on to open micropoone, open microphone segment two here because

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I want to start asking you questions here, guys.

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Speaker 3: So let's start. Let's start transition. Let's start.

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Speaker 2: We're going to transition to open microphone segment two, and

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I'm I'm going to take the first shift, first for

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first and first slot on the board here, Brian, and

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I'm gonna start asking you some questions because this was

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Jeff and I rarely do this, but we had Virginia

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Tech weekend on the blog, and it rarely happens like

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that where because we focus on the entire acc We've

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talked about you and talked about Saturday's game, and you've

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already referred to it, right. I was actually at a

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concert on Saturday, Brian. I saw Dream Theater on their

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fortieth anniversary tour.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend texting me about the game. Texting

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me about the game. Our friend Webda have Hoky. You

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may follow him here on Twitter. He was texting me

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about the game. But I was enjoying a progressive metal

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concert on Saturday. I was watching my favorite band. I

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was watching the band that hit the Grammy in twenty

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twenty two, and I had a great time on Saturday

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in Baltimore. But I was following the game, perhaps at intermission,

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and I got these texts, texts like that. I was thinking, oh,

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the first half went well better than I thought, because

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I thought that Virginia Tech would give a good performance

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based on what I'd seen last week against South Carolina,

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and then I then they completely fell off, fell off

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the cliff in the second half, right, And so I

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guess my quite like you know, Jeff wrote about Jeff

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Roe about wrote about the game and wrote that kind

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of thought that Brent Price days are numbered, and I

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think I actually kind of agreed with that. But I

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agree I kind of predicted that before the beginning of

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the season, right because I'm one of the few I

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think in our pack that didn't have Virginia Tech as

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Bowl eligible. I had Virginia Tech at five and seven

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entering the season, and I think that prospect is more

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even more likely now.

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Speaker 3: Even more likely now.

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Speaker 2: And so my questions for you, because I you know,

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I it's a it's a big deal, right like if

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you're the if you're the AD at a school like

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Virginia Tech, and really, you know, perhaps it a lot

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I think this is I think it's fair to say

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at a lot of schools, right, I mean, unless you're

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winning national championships in another revenue sport like at you know,

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at North Carolina or something like and like that, are

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getting to the Final four or whatever, you basically get

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two chances to hire a football coach. You don't get

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any more than that. You don't get any more than

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that because football is so expensive. And so I actually

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want to ask you this, like I'm gonna I guess

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I'm gonna straight with you. What are the chances that

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Virginia Tech has both an athletic director search and a

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football coach search next year?

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Speaker 3: Because I think.

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Speaker 2: If my if my numbers are correct, Virginia Tech will

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probably have to pay three years some salary for for boy.

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I think it's twenty, Yeah, maybe four. I guess that

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would be four years of salary for for for for

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for the existing ad, and you know, and if you

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and three I think three more I believe for the

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football coach, I'd have to go back and you may

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you may have the more accurate numbers to me. Then

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I have it on the blog, and I have it

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on the blog, and I'd have to go back and

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reference it. But I thought that the cost of the

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buyout the combined two would be to between ten and

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twelve million dollars. And I'm wondering what you think the

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prospect of both happening are or just or just one.

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I'm ready to hear your your take on that, that's

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my question for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at this point, considering what football all

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means to Virginia Tech and the importance of football moving

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00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:11,200
forward in realignment, in NIL, in this whole college football,

483
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,559
in this whole college athletics apparatus, you can't be a

484
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,880
team like Virginia Tech, as you said, with no national

485
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,480
championships in other sports and only you know, the one

486
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:29,079
trip for football. You can't have your prime sport be

487
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:35,119
in the doldrums year in, year out. And with Babcock

488
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,200
has had two opportunities to hire a coach, and I

489
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,880
feel like what he did with Priye is like the

490
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,920
classic overcorrect, right, So you had you had Flint in

491
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200
there and you had Flente that he's a he's a coach,

492
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,720
but he doesn't do a lot of the other things,

493
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,359
the little things. Well, he doesn't recruit well he does.

494
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:55,599
He's not very personal.

495
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,799
Speaker 6: He's not out there on the road, he's not glad

496
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,400
handing the donors. He's not doing all these things that

497
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,160
you have to do as a P four head coach

498
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,240
to be successful. But he's a good coach and it

499
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,839
didn't work out because he burned a lot of bridges,

500
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,279
and there were a lot of problems, uh downstream, and

501
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,200
ultimately you ran off a lot of the people and

502
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,400
things that were important to the culture of the program.

503
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: He's gone. You you really went the other way with

504
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,640
Brent Prye. This is a very inexperienced and you know,

505
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:30,920
he'd never been a head coach before, only been a

506
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,680
defensive coordinator. You know, had ties to the program from

507
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,519
uh when when he was a you know, a student before.

508
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,799
So yeah, this is one of those you hired a

509
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:50,119
guy from a culture standpoint and a guy that fits

510
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,279
the mold from a personality standpoint, a guy that is

511
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,759
going to create these relationships that that Flinte had kind

512
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,839
of floundered. But at the end of the day, this

513
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,720
is a results driven business and you've got to win

514
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,640
more than six games year in, year out or you're

515
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,839
not going to have a job for very long. So

516
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400
Wit has not shown his ability to go in there

517
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,680
and get the right guy in. So if it's not

518
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,240
making the right hire for the most important sport, for

519
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,839
the sport that is generating the Lion's share of the

520
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,279
revenue that the athletic department is generating, you're going to

521
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,359
have to move on from him as well. So the

522
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,559
question is going to be do you move on from

523
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,720
Wit and you let a lane Duck coach have one

524
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,880
more year before you make that higher just to lower

525
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,880
the buyout, or do you pull the trigger on both

526
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880
of them at the same time and try to get

527
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,440
an ad in here that is football oriented, that comes

528
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400
from a football school, that can get you on the

529
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240
right track. And I think that that's where I'm leaning

530
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,480
is pulling the trigger on both at the same time

531
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:03,279
and try to get this thing rolling as soon as possible,

532
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:08,119
because if you're not moving on this fast, the way

533
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,640
re alignments moving, the way any NIL is moving, I'm

534
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,000
very concerned about getting left behind in this process.

535
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,559
Speaker 2: Is the flip side here, I'll say this very quickly, Right,

536
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:20,119
the flip side is you can try to do what

537
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,559
Georgia Tech did with Brian Key, right, perhaps bringing in

538
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,000
bring in you know you you you put the interim tag,

539
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,480
like let's say on JC Price.

540
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,039
Speaker 3: I'll just use that as an example.

541
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,039
Speaker 2: Right, you put the interim tag on him, You do

542
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,160
an athletic director search. You see how it goes with him.

543
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,319
You you know, you increase your n I L. You

544
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,359
see how it goes with him, and then if it

545
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,559
doesn't work out, Brian, then you do your you do

546
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,880
your search. So that's your your your you know, your

547
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,200
search for a coach, right and that your a D

548
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,680
would also have that input into hiring a coach. And

549
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,279
that's the foot that's the other that's that that I

550
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,440
think would be the second option. Is that something that

551
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,839
that you think would be a viable option that they

552
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:02,519
would cons.

553
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: I think that's a good half step. It does kind

554
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,240
of maintain a little bit of consistency within the program.

555
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:13,680
I think you're you know, you're still on the hook

556
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,960
for the buyouts there right regardless, because you're still moving

557
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,759
on from Pride, You're still finding a new a D.

558
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,519
But you get a little bit of a steady hand

559
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,720
on the wheel of the program in the process of

560
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,200
all of those moving parts. And you know, if things

561
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
work out and and you know, someone like a JC

562
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:40,160
Price goes out there and much like Brent Key proves

563
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,799
that he can handle the job, that can raise the

564
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,799
level of play, can create some of the consistency, which

565
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:50,920
has been the biggest problem with Virginia Tech. It hasn't

566
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,000
been ability, it's been consistency. The consistency of the process

567
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:59,119
is very bad. The ability of the of the people

568
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,640
that are that are put on the field isn't necessarily

569
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,880
the question. It's the leadership and getting them to do

570
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,759
the things that you need them to do consistently. So

571
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,000
if JC can go out there and do something like that,

572
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,599
then you may have a brand key situation, which is

573
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:17,000
probably the best case scenario, at least in the short

574
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,880
term for the Hokies. Long term, I would love to

575
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,839
get a real football guy in here that has experience

576
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,319
that can shape the program from a long term perspective.

577
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,559
Speaker 3: What more, a follow up, what do you think about

578
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,519
Dan Mullin?

579
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: That's the question every time I think this vacancy comes up, right,

580
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,519
is the name Dan Mullen gets grown out there? It

581
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,680
seems like to me everywhere Dan Mullen goes after a

582
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,920
few years, people he kind of grates the nerves of

583
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,079
folks in the program. I don't know whether that's a

584
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:07,599
personality thing, whether that's just him not quite being as

585
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,799
maybe personal as folks would like him to be. I'm

586
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,240
not sure exactly what that is, but I think he's

587
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200
a guy that can go out there and give you

588
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,279
that consistent product that I'm talking about. But I'm not

589
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,359
sure if he's a guy that can get you a consistent,

590
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:24,559
you know, nine or ten win team either. I think

591
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:28,599
he's He's very much good for eight wins, you feel

592
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,599
pretty good about the season, and you do it again

593
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,519
the next year. But I'm not sure if he can

594
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,920
punch up the way we would like to and get

595
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
to those ACC championship games.

596
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: Fair enough? Fair enough?

597
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,039
Speaker 2: What do you got for your open mic? I've been

598
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:48,079
using a lot of questions with you or anything you'd

599
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,599
like to add, well, I mean, yeah, I'm sorry, I've been.

600
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been let yeah, getting a.

601
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Lot of the flood you almost Yeah, the questions have

602
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,359
almost been your open mike. I'd be a little facetious,

603
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,319
but I'd be like that that was kind of by time. Gaye,

604
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,039
you're my go aheads, go aheads.

605
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,279
Speaker 3: And what do you got?

606
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,599
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I think at this point the last

607
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:08,720
thing that I here is that I am looking forward

608
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:11,200
to basketball season. Yeah.

609
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, guard man with five guards coming into Blacksburg.

610
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Who's gonna go to the NBA? I mean, this is

611
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:22,720
the way the world works now, right.

612
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:23,359
Speaker 4: You get him for.

613
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: One year, they're they're gone, and they go to another college,

614
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,720
or they go pro right, and this guy's gonna be sud.

615
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,359
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a stud. I think we've got the

616
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,839
right pieces around him now. And when you look at

617
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
it compared to last year, you actually fund the basketball

618
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,839
program just enough, just enough to be competitive in the ACC,

619
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,720
and look at how the roster can turn around in

620
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,599
one year. Oh man, it's incredible.

621
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,799
Speaker 3: It is it is. Jeff, You're up, friend.

622
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I blogged about this today at All

623
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:06,200
Sportsdiscussion dot com. I'm more convinced than ever that the

624
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,880
future ACC scheduling format, especially given the start of the

625
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,320
of the league, you know, in against the power conferences

626
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,360
and Notre Dame which is an on sidly three to

627
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,280
nine right now. But more than ever, I think this

628
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,960
lends itself to the eight conference games to power for

629
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,800
scheduling format, not the nine plus one. I think, if

630
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,800
you're looking at it from the view of the of

631
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,360
the football brands in the ACC, adding another conference game

632
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,639
really doesn't do that much for you, especially if if

633
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,239
that many teams are going to perform poorly out.

634
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 5: At a conference.

635
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,199
Speaker 1: But what it does where it can help you with

636
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,280
the eight plus two format is adding you know, and

637
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
I already most most of the teams in the a

638
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,519
c C have two out of conference games. But you know,

639
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:08,280
the team a Clemson who already has l s U

640
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,039
at South Carolina at the end of the year, Florida

641
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,840
State who played Alabama, has Florida at the end of

642
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:22,559
the year, Miami playing Notre Dame and Florida this year,

643
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,800
even Virginia Tech opening with two SEC opponents plus the

644
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,639
eight conference games. And now it may get a little trickier,

645
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,400
you know, to schedule some of those non conference games

646
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:39,480
against SEC opponents as they add their you know, ninth

647
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:43,119
conference game, but that doesn't mean they're gonna stop scheduling them.

648
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,039
And then we always have the Notre Dame game of

649
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,719
the a c C. And this is going to allow

650
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,880
for flexibility because what you can still do and and

651
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,320
you know, you throw logic completely out of it anymore.

652
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,400
You just need to schedule games that you need to have.

653
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,199
This past weekend, North Carolina State and Virginia played a

654
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,679
game that won't count in the conference standings. So even

655
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,719
if you can't get another, you know, at a conference

656
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,599
opponent in a year where Clemson in Miami aren't scheduled, well,

657
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,800
they can go ahead and schedule that game, you know,

658
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,000
or Georgia Tech and Florida State, who aren't playing this

659
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,760
year and who've always you know, lamented not being able

660
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,320
to play because they actually are geographically pretty close, or

661
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,320
Virginia Tech and you know, NC State or whomever. You

662
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,039
can schedule those games that create regional interest even within

663
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,559
the of the conference opponent. So I would be really

664
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:46,000
disappointed if the format becomes the nine plus one because

665
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,159
I don't really think that helps, you know, anyone in

666
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,559
the ACC to add a ninth conference game. But the

667
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,920
eight plus two will still give you that flexibility, and

668
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,639
there's no reason that you have to do it the

669
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,480
same as the Big ten in the SEC, or the

670
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,360
or the Big twelve. This is something I think, you know,

671
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,800
if as long as you're playing the ten P four

672
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,000
opponents wherever they come from, I don't I don't think

673
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,159
that you know, the other leagues are going to say

674
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,840
anything if you're doing the eight plus two and it

675
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,280
could give you something have that's a little bit more

676
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,480
unique to the ACC. And I think this week just

677
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:25,159
proves it even more, is the the football brands have

678
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,840
to be able to have that flexibility in that in

679
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,960
their scheduling so I hope that is what becomes when

680
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,280
they will announce something at some point, and I hope

681
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,320
it's the eight plus two.

682
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,199
Speaker 4: That's my hope as well. Though, if if I'm Brent Priye,

683
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:44,400
I'm probably hoping for an extra game here because that's

684
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
the only competition that he's about five hundred.

685
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: Again, he would like to, he would like to that

686
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840
fair enough schedule wake Forest.

687
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: I think as a matter of fact, he won't Stanford

688
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,440
every year.

689
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 5: Yes, everybody wants Dan for this year.

690
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, man a lot of sports, but football is

691
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,519
not one of them.

692
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah kidding, Brian, Thank you so much for joining us tonight.

693
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,599
We really appreciate you coming on the podcast tonight, and

694
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,239
more than anything, I think we appreciate you keeping it

695
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,800
real right because you answered our questions quite well and

696
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,360
kind of gave it, kind of gave us a good

697
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,039
pulse on where the Virginia Tech fan base is at.

698
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:32,320
And I'm sure the Boundary Corner will give even give

699
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,079
given even further more accurate heartbeat that the wake that's

700
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:42,400
happening this upcoming week. So again, we appreciate you coming

701
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,039
on the podcast tonight, and we would love to have

702
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:46,400
you come back on again.

703
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,559
Speaker 3: Thanks again for joining us tonight.

704
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,519
Speaker 4: Brian, absolutely thanks as always, it's always a pleasure to

705
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:55,519
jump on here and glad to chop up ACC a

706
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,239
little bit and unfortunately have to unload on my hopees.

707
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,679
Speaker 2: You know what it is, what it is man, that's

708
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,599
the Hokies are the hottest story in the ACC right now,

709
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,559
I mean for better or for worse, right, So we

710
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:09,360
appreciate you coming on the pod and have a great

711
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,360
week guys, take care.

712
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: Thanks gentlemen,