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Speaker 2: As we mentioned that ceasefire and hostage deal will be
Speaker 2: voted on by the Israeli cabinet. That'll happen tomorrow. The
Speaker 2: election over the inauguration, not ramp up to the inauguration.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the incoming Trump administration a little bit
Speaker 2: more later this hour, and also later this hour. The
Speaker 2: remarkable stories from an organization I didn't even know existed,
Speaker 2: this Pet Code Love, but apparently they have seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand reunion stories over the last four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're already reuniting lost pets from the wildfire
Speaker 3: zones here. That's right, It's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have them coming through.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: There's a weird and the heels of the wildfire. There's
Speaker 2: a weird kind of conversation going on around Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: nominee for the Energy Secretary, Chris Wright is his name,
Speaker 2: and he's made a bunch of posts in the past
Speaker 2: that deny that climate change are dismissing Essentially climate change
Speaker 2: is a component in these wildfires.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He called wildfire concerns related to climate policies and global
Speaker 6: warming as hype.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like we're all living that hype. I mean, sorry,
Speaker 2: but it's just, you know, demonstrably the case that these
Speaker 2: fires are burning hotter, the winds are blowing harder, and
Speaker 2: these seasons are longer than ever before. And it's not
Speaker 2: just fires, the hurricane seasons, I mean the tropical weather.
Speaker 2: Everything's been amped up. So I think it's fair to
Speaker 2: say the climate is definitely in crisis.
Speaker 6: Right, So scientific studies contradict his claims that it's hype.
Speaker 3: You know, we know this.
Speaker 6: But the other thing that's interesting about him is these
Speaker 6: for his confirmation hearings, which began yesterday, you know, these
Speaker 6: old posts were dug up with the hype.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: Well, in conversations that he was having with senators who
Speaker 2: were questioning about him, he said, hey, the entire situation
Speaker 2: in the modern world is more subtle on climate change
Speaker 2: than is publicly recognized. And he says he is not
Speaker 2: denying climate change is happening, or that was related to
Speaker 2: the combustion of fossil fuels, but he's saying that this
Speaker 2: combustion of hydrocarbons enables the modern world. But he does
Speaker 2: say so this is the same guy who's saying it's hype.
Speaker 2: We've increased, as a quote, we've increased to atmospheric CO
Speaker 2: two concentration by fifty percent, making it harder for the
Speaker 2: Earth to shed heat. So even as he says that,
Speaker 2: he somehow tries to push back. So you see what
Speaker 2: is happening. And the reason it's happening is because these
Speaker 2: are hearings that are trying to serve a couple of
Speaker 2: different interests. One is the base, the magabase and the
Speaker 2: GOP base, which wants to push back on any kind
Speaker 2: of aggressive action toward climate change. And the other is
Speaker 2: the grim reality that climate change, climate crises are here
Speaker 2: and they're producing the kind of thing that we're living
Speaker 2: through in southern California.
Speaker 6: Now, look, I want to know when these posts were
Speaker 6: from LinkedIn that were pulled up during the hearing people
Speaker 6: can change, because he's basically saying both things. Right, He's
Speaker 6: calling it hype then and now he's saying that sure
Speaker 6: climate change is real. He also said, quote, there isn't
Speaker 6: dirty energy or clean energy. We were talking off Mike,
Speaker 6: and you were saying, this is just word salad.
Speaker 2: It's word salad because he's again trying to serve both
Speaker 2: interests and both.
Speaker 3: Sides of his mouth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and despite Democratic opposition, Senate Republicans, who of course
Speaker 6: hold a fifty three forty seven majority, favored his nomination.
Speaker 4: Sure. I mean, look, we talked about this yesterday. I
Speaker 4: believe that.
Speaker 2: Incoming president President elect Donald Trump will get most, if
Speaker 2: not all, of his cabinet nominees approved. I know everybody's
Speaker 2: talking about heg sith hegsith is. He's a drinker, he
Speaker 2: is a sexual assault assaulter. He paid off a woman
Speaker 2: to stay quiet, and that's just the personal character thing.
Speaker 2: He's going to be running this huge government organization with
Speaker 2: three million people under his control worldwide, the Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: the biggest budget in Washington really arguably is the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: and the one organization that he ran, you know, he
Speaker 2: ran it into the ground and they had to remove him.
Speaker 2: So I hear that, okay, and I hear look, you know,
Speaker 2: he is so completely inept and not qualified for this
Speaker 2: role that he shouldn't be even considered in the conversation.
Speaker 6: Sure, Republicans have even said during his hearings that you
Speaker 6: just don't have enough experience.
Speaker 2: Right, I get all of that. Trump wants it. It's
Speaker 2: going to happen. Trump has a control of the GOP
Speaker 2: that is so complete that I believe they will green
Speaker 2: light all of his nominees and the Democrats can't do
Speaker 2: anything about it.
Speaker 4: That's just the reality.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also if Elon Musk wants them to.
Speaker 2: Right and Musk, it's very funny you say this because
Speaker 2: Jony Earnest in that Senate committee, Joni Earnst is the
Speaker 2: one person who I think they look to as sort
Speaker 2: of a litmus test. And the reason I say that
Speaker 2: is she's someone who served exactly and also she's the
Speaker 2: victim of she's a survivor of sexual assault in the military. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: and the military has an epidemic of sexual assault.
Speaker 4: So you have this odd.
Speaker 6: Well, and Heg Seth had said that he doesn't think
Speaker 6: that women should serve in combat roles, and so they
Speaker 6: had the meeting Ernest and haig Seth, and you know,
Speaker 6: she came out and said, I'm willing to give you
Speaker 6: a shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She got tremendous pressure. And this is why you
Speaker 2: made me think about when you talk about Musk, she
Speaker 2: got tremendous pressure because as she was considering this and
Speaker 2: it was unclear that Jony Ernst was going to actually
Speaker 2: give him Hegseth the seal of approval, she was in
Speaker 2: her state. They ran Musk underwrote it in his pack
Speaker 2: from you know, he has a couple of different packs,
Speaker 2: but one of them just carpetbombed the air television with
Speaker 2: ads saying it's possible that Donald Trump may not get
Speaker 2: his defense secretary through. Your call is needed contact and
Speaker 2: they had a number there. The number is Jonny Ernst office. Okay,
Speaker 2: So she was besieged by all of this, and it
Speaker 2: was again a campaign organized by Elon Musk. So you're
Speaker 2: right when you say, if Musk wants it, it may happen. Now,
Speaker 2: in this case, Musk and Trump are on the same page.
Speaker 2: He's just trying to support hegseeth as Trump pick. But Ernst,
Speaker 2: who might have been kind of a little sketchy about
Speaker 2: you know, she's a survivor of sexual assault. He is
Speaker 2: a sexual assaulter. It would seem I mean, certainly there
Speaker 2: was evidence, you know, brought to the committee.
Speaker 4: And again you're going to have your own opinions.
Speaker 2: But the fact is, and the only opinion that matters
Speaker 2: is Donald Trump's, and Donald Trump wants Pete Hesith to
Speaker 2: run the Department of.
Speaker 6: As fast and to be clear, after the meeting, you know,
Speaker 6: he says said that he didn't feel that way any longer,
Speaker 6: that women should and continue to serve in combat roles.
Speaker 6: And you bring up that the power of Trump, the
Speaker 6: power of Musk obviously billionaires, and this is something that
Speaker 6: Biden addressed head on in his farewell address last night,
Speaker 6: and I know that we'll talk about that a little later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the rising oligarchy.
Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that, but that is sort
Speaker 2: of where the where the shoe pinches and another nominee,
Speaker 2: So we watch all of that for you. This is
Speaker 2: an incredible story coming up with the reunion of pets
Speaker 2: and animals all across southern California being a priority for
Speaker 2: so many who have been displaced. The story is so current.
Speaker 2: Our guest is the executive director of pet Co Love,
Speaker 2: and in four years they've had seventy five thousand reunion
Speaker 2: stories and already several reunion stories from these fires. Welcome again,
Speaker 2: the executive director of Petco Love, Suzanne COGT.
Speaker 4: Hi, Suzanne, Welcome to KFI.
Speaker 1: Hi, thank you, Hey, Hi, it's great to be here, Suzanne.
Speaker 3: I love how this service works.
Speaker 6: It's very high tech, it's very twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 6: it's doing remarkable things.
Speaker 3: Explain how your service works.
Speaker 1: Exactly like gon are the days when we should be
Speaker 1: telling everyone to put a fire on a telephone pole
Speaker 1: around town In the digital age. Petel Love Loss is
Speaker 1: a central national, central lost and found database. It's free.
Speaker 1: Anyone can use it and it's simple if you've lost
Speaker 1: the pets to put the pets photo into our database,
Speaker 1: let us know where you lost it. And then if
Speaker 1: someone's found a pet, they'll put the photo of that
Speaker 1: found pet into the database and it'll use photo matching
Speaker 1: technology to make that list to give you a list
Speaker 1: of pets in your area that has been found. And
Speaker 1: our goal is if we can create that one central place,
Speaker 1: we will be reuniting more loss pets and so enable
Speaker 1: to really get there. We're also connected directly to the
Speaker 1: shelters in the area, so if the pets are in
Speaker 1: the shelter, they're going to come into our database automatically.
Speaker 1: We've even integrated with other social media sites next door,
Speaker 1: ring neighbors they're putting, people are posting lost pets. We
Speaker 1: want to get get them into Petco Love Loss too.
Speaker 1: So I know I've said a mouthful here, but it's
Speaker 1: really we want to really simplify reuniting loss pets, make
Speaker 1: it accessible to everyone. And I'm going to tell you,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a pet, you have a
Speaker 1: photo of your pet on your phone, even if that
Speaker 1: pet's got lost. I don't know I've met anyone that doesn't.
Speaker 2: And you know you did say a mouthful, but it's
Speaker 2: a mouthful of really interesting things associated with one clearing
Speaker 2: house and the technologies associated with getting that information out
Speaker 2: to so many it's actually brilliant.
Speaker 3: And let me just tell you this, Suzanne.
Speaker 6: I was on your website and I put in because
Speaker 6: you put in a zip code, right, and so I
Speaker 6: put in the Altadena or one of them, one of
Speaker 6: Altadena's zip codes, and all sadly, you know, flooded with
Speaker 6: missing pets and Alta Dina and the date since they've
Speaker 6: gone missing, and there were so many from January seventh,
Speaker 6: so many from January the eighth, and the owner can
Speaker 6: put a little descriptor on there, and many of those
Speaker 6: lost pets are because of the wildfires and what I love.
Speaker 6: And you hit on this, but I want to make
Speaker 6: the point very clear that if I'm missing my pet
Speaker 6: and I put it on your website because I'm familiar
Speaker 6: with your website, if somebody finds my pet and uploads
Speaker 6: it to next door I found this missing pet, then
Speaker 6: your photo matching technology says ding, we have a match, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. I mean, we really just want to
Speaker 1: make sure that you know, especially in times of disasters.
Speaker 1: I think this system is crucial anytime, but especially in
Speaker 1: times of disasters and we see more pets displaced, and
Speaker 1: we see shelters sometimes that can't keep up with everything.
Speaker 1: This is how neighbors can help neighbors and really hold
Speaker 1: on to a pet, find the owner and connect with
Speaker 1: them directly, and really be a resource in your community
Speaker 1: to help unite lost pets. Everyone can get involved.
Speaker 2: So pet Goo love Lost, It's so Petco underwrites this.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious how this happened. It's it's brilliant. As
Speaker 2: I was saying, the technologies are only getting better that
Speaker 2: you guys are using well, and I want to.
Speaker 1: Talk about the technologies, like you said, getting better and
Speaker 1: how we make it be. I'll answer your first question,
Speaker 1: which petso Love is actually a national nonprofit and it's
Speaker 1: it's supported by TechCo, but also the incredible customers that
Speaker 1: shop at petos. If you've ever shot there and you
Speaker 1: donate on your way out two dollars, five dollars, it's
Speaker 1: all going to support petso Love. So we can do
Speaker 1: things like petso Love lost and also support animal welfare
Speaker 1: partners across the country. And you know you talked about
Speaker 1: how it gets better. This is a machine learning technology.
Speaker 1: So the more the more photos that we have in there,
Speaker 1: the more matches that we make, our system is going
Speaker 1: to get better and better over time.
Speaker 3: I love it. And you also have.
Speaker 6: Even if you haven't lost a pet you want to
Speaker 6: help out, you have three ways that people can be
Speaker 6: stepping up at this time, Yes.
Speaker 1: At this time, right now, we're working with the LA
Speaker 1: shelters in the area, LA Animal Services in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: County Animal Care and Control to really help support adoptions.
Speaker 1: They had their offering Sea Wave adoptions. So if you
Speaker 1: are looking for a pet, help make room for a
Speaker 1: displaced pet that's going to come in from the fires.
Speaker 1: You can adopt today. If you can't if you're not
Speaker 1: looking to adopt foster a pet. Working with them to
Speaker 1: help people foster pets. There's a lot of great dogs
Speaker 1: that need to foster, and they know who gets along
Speaker 1: with other dogs, so you can also foster or adopt.
Speaker 1: And I will mention one other thing for those people
Speaker 1: that you know our system, if you're going to put
Speaker 1: a photo in it, we can help you reunite pets.
Speaker 1: If you you have to leave your pet behind and
Speaker 1: you need help to have someone go check to about
Speaker 1: where they are. There's an LA Fire Evacuation Animal Services
Speaker 1: hotline and that's two one three, two seven zero eight
Speaker 1: one five five to get someone to go out to
Speaker 1: that location.
Speaker 2: And the shelters and organizations, the sort of home grown organizations,
Speaker 2: rescue organizations and such, do they interact with you in ways?
Speaker 2: In other words, if we know of one in our
Speaker 2: neighborhood and say, hey, you know, you should get in
Speaker 2: touch with petco Love because they actually are something of
Speaker 2: a clearinghouse for all the work you do.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we partner with four thousand, you know, animal
Speaker 1: welfare organizations nationwide. It could be a small rescue, a
Speaker 1: humane society, even our municipal shelters nationwide. We are partnering
Speaker 1: with all of them on techolove laws, but also adoptions
Speaker 1: and fostering, and also things like offering free vaccines and
Speaker 1: helping get those out to people that are most in me.
Speaker 1: So we're partnering across the board. I think if you're
Speaker 1: working with an organization telling me to check this out
Speaker 1: at petsolove dot org.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say it. I was
Speaker 3: going to pump you up a little bit more.
Speaker 6: That website is petcolove dot org. If you are impacted
Speaker 6: by the LA fires, you're missing your pet. This is
Speaker 6: just a really great service. And now I know if
Speaker 6: you're in Petco and you give a couple bucks, now
Speaker 6: we know where the money is going to Petco Love.
Speaker 3: What a wonderful foundation. Suzanne co Get, thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us today on CAFI.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks for having me of.
Speaker 4: Course, bravo. I mean really, bravo.
Speaker 2: This is really what you need is one place, because
Speaker 2: the problem is there's so many disparate groups and you
Speaker 2: just don't know where your animal might have ended up.
Speaker 6: My favorite thing about this is that you don't have
Speaker 6: to know about this group. You can just upload it
Speaker 6: to several different social media sites and that technology will
Speaker 6: match it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: And that's the machine learning part of it too. It's
Speaker 2: only getting better at that. That big State Farm announcement,
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty big news today that they
Speaker 2: said that they're now going to renew those who had
Speaker 2: They had said they were planning to drop again.
Speaker 4: If they dropped you, you're still out of luck.
Speaker 2: But many of the homeowners affected by the fires in
Speaker 2: southern California were getting notices that they were going to
Speaker 2: be dropped by State Farm.
Speaker 6: About seven thousand in the Palisades area alone, in more
Speaker 6: than five hundred in Altadina area.
Speaker 2: So now they're saying that will not be the case again.
Speaker 2: They might have received a lot of pushback, and I
Speaker 2: think it was sort of just in the same way
Speaker 2: that they've dropped their Super Bowl ad, which we also
Speaker 2: told you about. I think they might have just felt like,
Speaker 2: this is an awkward moment for these kinds of announcements.
Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to save their butt.
Speaker 2: It's bad optics, yeah, I mean, but they're trying to
Speaker 2: save their financial butt before, you know, by dropping these people.
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of butts to save from
Speaker 2: news Nation, Libby Dean joins us to talk about the
Speaker 2: second Trump era. Hi, Libby, Welcome to Kofi.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: So first let's talk about what's happening in Washington now.
Speaker 2: Nominees for the next Trump administration being questioned by senators.
Speaker 2: It looks as though there is support, meaning the votes
Speaker 2: to get most of these nominees through.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you agree.
Speaker 5: These things? Just because the engine Trump.
Speaker 2: We can't really understand, Libby. She's in and out in
Speaker 2: a microwave oven right now, and we have to get
Speaker 2: her out so that we can Yeah, if you can
Speaker 2: get to a window or something. So I'm sorry, So
Speaker 2: what were you saying, are the votes there to get
Speaker 2: these nominees through?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm certainly hope so, And that's what his team thinks.
Speaker 5: I think Republicans there is the backing there in Congress.
Speaker 5: When you sit through these hearings, the question the tough
Speaker 5: questions are coors asked by U Democrats. So when it
Speaker 5: counts the nominees that are going to face it, top
Speaker 5: com scabbed and our juniors will gather, of course, because
Speaker 5: for prescript to Syria, within that meaning from all a thought,
Speaker 5: and our junior just because of his abortion stans and
Speaker 5: of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is Hang on a second, may
Speaker 2: hold on a second. We can't really hear well, can we?
Speaker 3: Maybe let's try to get back trying to get.
Speaker 2: Our a better place or get on our landline maybe
Speaker 2: or something to address I just can't write. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't understand her very well. So yeah, and when
Speaker 2: I say very well, I mean at all.
Speaker 3: But we can talk about this, and of course.
Speaker 4: We'll get on the line.
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, you know, this is the second
Speaker 2: go round with Donald Trump, and so we try it again.
Speaker 4: Okay, Levy, can you hear us?
Speaker 5: Yes? I can?
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, now better?
Speaker 2: Does Donald Trump have the votes?
Speaker 5: That is a big question that I hope finally I
Speaker 5: can answer for y'all. That is something that he hopes,
Speaker 5: you know, he hopes that he has the votes for this.
Speaker 5: He has he has the votes for this. Republicans, if
Speaker 5: you ask them on the Hill if they have the
Speaker 5: votes for us, they say that they do. But the
Speaker 5: reality there are some nominees who are facing even Republican
Speaker 5: criticism behind closed doors. Nominees like R K Junior and
Speaker 5: Tolci Gabbard. The reason for that being because RFK Junior,
Speaker 5: his stance on vaccines, his stance on abortion, those are
Speaker 5: something that Republicans you know, could take issue with, some
Speaker 5: of them more behind closed doors than in public. And
Speaker 5: then Toulci Gabbard because of her previous trip to Sria,
Speaker 5: I'm meeting with uh Bushar all Asade in the past.
Speaker 5: That is a concern considering she would be, you know,
Speaker 5: head of the intelligence agencies and she has this previous relationship.
Speaker 5: So Republicans have questions about that. But one thing to
Speaker 5: point out here is it would be incredibly historic for
Speaker 5: a nominee to not get confirmed. You know, the biggest
Speaker 5: hiccup was going to be potentially Matt Gates and he
Speaker 5: was going to face you know, a lot of pushback
Speaker 5: when it came to even Republican circle. So he stepped aside.
Speaker 5: Both seen the passes these nominees who look like they're
Speaker 5: not going to get a step aside before they even
Speaker 5: get to that confirmation process. So I don't think that
Speaker 5: Trump's team would let them get this mark if they
Speaker 5: really thought that they weren't going to get across the
Speaker 5: finish Well.
Speaker 6: That's exactly the point that Mark was making just a
Speaker 6: few minutes ago. In fact, I'm curious about the power
Speaker 6: of his chief of staff, Susie Wiles. We know that
Speaker 6: she is really, you know, making sure that this is
Speaker 6: a more disciplined Trump when he takes over.
Speaker 5: So Ju the Wiles of course also walked through Desantas's
Speaker 5: circles as well, so it is very well known in
Speaker 5: conservative circles. I think Trump called her the ice queen
Speaker 5: on election night, and she of course I covered the
Speaker 5: entire campaign and she was there by his side. Now,
Speaker 5: when I speak with Trump officials behind closed doors, you
Speaker 5: know a lot of them point out how the only
Speaker 5: one that Trump would listen to during the campaign was
Speaker 5: Susie Wilde, so very clear that she holds a lot
Speaker 5: of power there. Of course, previous chief of staff we
Speaker 5: saw more of a revolving door than I bet we
Speaker 5: will see during this administration. But that of course remains
Speaker 5: to be seen if that is the case. But it's
Speaker 5: with her and then deputy being of course Stephen Miller.
Speaker 5: That force is something to watch for too.
Speaker 2: It's also interesting with Susie Wiles. I was just thinking that,
Speaker 2: you know, as Marla was saying the notion of trying
Speaker 2: to discipline Trump or trying to constrain Trump in any
Speaker 2: way is sort of I think a fool's Errand but
Speaker 2: what Susie Wiles seems as though she would really be
Speaker 2: good at is making access to Trump a little harder,
Speaker 2: like keeping the White House far more discipline.
Speaker 4: That part of it she probably can control, don't you
Speaker 4: think well.
Speaker 6: And she also, for instance, said don't post on social
Speaker 6: media right now, and I think that was relating to
Speaker 6: the confirmation hearing.
Speaker 4: No, that was all, and that was about Musk and
Speaker 4: the back and forth.
Speaker 3: Yes, keep that in check.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 5: I think social media is going to play a big
Speaker 5: part in this administration. I mean, anyone, if you talk
Speaker 5: to anyone who covered the last administration, the big thing was, oh,
Speaker 5: we got tweets, you know, every single day. I don't
Speaker 5: think that that's going to change. I think what you
Speaker 5: said when it comes to filtering Trump, I don't think
Speaker 5: that that necessarily is Susie Wilde's goal. But what you
Speaker 5: mentioned is more of a you know, oversight of who
Speaker 5: has access, and we're kind of seeing that play out.
Speaker 5: It's been interesting to see these tech mogals, these CEOs
Speaker 5: get the access that some have been fighting for considering
Speaker 5: they weren't necessarily behind him during his campaign, but now
Speaker 5: that he won, they're lining up, going to travel all
Speaker 5: the way for a lago. So it's definitely certainly something
Speaker 5: to watch, but more of an insider look for sure
Speaker 5: at the White House when you talk about his chief
Speaker 5: of staff. But it's something behind closed doors that is
Speaker 5: certainly worth watching.
Speaker 4: Libby Dean from News Nation in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: We got her after all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I finally got it to go. Thank you, Levy.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it so much. Will look for you on
Speaker 2: News Nations.
Speaker 4: All right. That's you know.
Speaker 2: The other thing when we come back, we'll maybe touch
Speaker 2: on the promise is made by the incoming president and
Speaker 2: what he can actually deliver on and.
Speaker 3: And day one. Day one is going to be historic, and.
Speaker 2: Already stuff is being walked back and we were just
Speaker 2: talking about the incoming administration. It will be a radically
Speaker 2: different Washington. Certainly, the forty seventh President of the United States.
Speaker 2: Monday is the inauguration. It will be I think, informed
Speaker 2: by a lot more security than in inaugurations past.
Speaker 6: The forty fifth president will be taking over the White House.
Speaker 3: Yeah there, forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yes, Donald Trump Part deu. He has made some promises
Speaker 2: on the campaign trail that clearly will not happen.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll just give you one example.
Speaker 2: The eleven million illegal immigrants will be rounded up and
Speaker 2: there'll be a mass deportation.
Speaker 4: It just it's not feasible. It's not feasible.
Speaker 2: From a cost standpoint, it's not feasible, and they're just
Speaker 2: simply isn't the money to do it.
Speaker 6: But I think even so, it still has heightened nerves
Speaker 6: within the immigrant community.
Speaker 2: Most certainly, and you know, it was a rallying cry
Speaker 2: for many Americans sufficient in number two, you know, for
Speaker 2: him to win an election, and so shutting the southern border,
Speaker 2: terminating citizenship based on birthright, these are all things that
Speaker 2: are priorities and promises that he made. He's talking about
Speaker 2: taxes on commodities from all nations, particularly China, but he's
Speaker 2: talking about Canada mess beyond that exactly.
Speaker 3: Twenty five to forty percent, even large.
Speaker 2: Scale tax breaks for businesses, for tip workers, social security retirees.
Speaker 6: And that was one of his big things, with no
Speaker 6: tax on tips. When he went to Vegas, I mean,
Speaker 6: he's the roar of the crowd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a really good rallying cry. So
Speaker 2: much of Donald Trump's political appeal is based on that
Speaker 2: kind of thing, almost a a bumper sticker sloganism that
Speaker 2: really is effective.
Speaker 6: He I think you can so much so on that
Speaker 6: one that Kamala then adopted that well.
Speaker 4: Both of them seemed to be.
Speaker 3: Yes referring to tacks on tips.
Speaker 2: Yes, both of them scooped up bits and pieces of
Speaker 2: what they seemed to find was working on the campaign trail.
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting looking back at that campaign.
Speaker 2: In a way, they were both beta testing stuff to
Speaker 2: see what the crowd responded to and what polled well.
Speaker 2: But I was just about to say, you may not
Speaker 2: like Donald Trump, and he's certainly a divisive political figure,
Speaker 2: but wow, he is I think a once in a
Speaker 2: generation kind of media figure, political figure to rise to
Speaker 2: this kind of prominence and popularity. And the one thing
Speaker 2: he does is he locks in on something that works
Speaker 2: with the populace and he hammers it and it really
Speaker 2: did carry him into office. Now the question becomes, you know,
Speaker 2: will he follow through on any of these things? There
Speaker 2: are a million we'll just take tax on tips. There
Speaker 2: are a million loopholes by which things can be considered gratuities,
Speaker 2: and you can somehow essentially create a tax break in
Speaker 2: a way that you didn't intend it. You know, you
Speaker 2: may be talking to waitresses and waiters and those who
Speaker 2: enjoy and maybe live on gratuities, but you can consider
Speaker 2: many other things gratuities and you can put them into
Speaker 2: that category. And it'll be up to government to decide.
Speaker 2: That's if they can even get it through.
Speaker 3: But his expertise lies in the art of the deal.
Speaker 2: I think his I think his expertise lies in the
Speaker 2: art of the cell. He can sell anything. The deals
Speaker 2: will see. I mean, he did get huge tax breaks
Speaker 2: through the first time he was in president, and I
Speaker 2: think that's a priority this time as well. But we'll
Speaker 2: see exactly what happens when it comes to paying off
Speaker 2: some of these other promises that.
Speaker 4: He's made on the gun out.
Speaker 6: But when I say that, and it's I think we're
Speaker 6: kind of saying the same things. When he says we're
Speaker 6: going to put these big tariffs on Canada and Mexico
Speaker 6: and China.
Speaker 3: This is they make big headlines.
Speaker 6: They it's you know, an underlying threat sort of a thing,
Speaker 6: and then he gets a deal done behind it, there's
Speaker 6: something it's a tit for Tat.
Speaker 2: Well, you're so right about one particular deal that's being
Speaker 2: made right now, and that is the pressure. I mean,
Speaker 2: it reminds me a lot of what they used to
Speaker 2: say about LBJ. I mean, if you read about LBJ,
Speaker 2: he get on the phone and he would pressure these
Speaker 2: senators and congress people to get his legislation through. I
Speaker 2: mean there was really strong arming from the president. That's
Speaker 2: what Trump is doing now to get his nominees.
Speaker 3: To the compromisions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I was saying, he'll get them all.
Speaker 4: He will.
Speaker 2: You know, there'll be very little pushback when you actually
Speaker 2: get a call from Trump Pete Hagsith, whatever troubled aspects
Speaker 2: of his history. There may be whatever thin resume he
Speaker 2: brings to this Department of Defense. If Trump and this
Speaker 2: is exactly what's happen, and calls enough of those senators,
Speaker 2: he will get confirmed.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The only one that couldn't pull that off is Matt
Speaker 6: Gats And now he's one of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a media darling. Yeah. Interesting. So all of
Speaker 2: these things will take shape in the next administration, you know,
Speaker 2: and Democrats they have some you know, real I think
Speaker 2: they have to have a big huddle, figure out what
Speaker 2: will happen with that party and what their priorities are moving.
Speaker 3: Forward, messaging in it. Who's going to be the leader?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean who the leaders of that party are.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Joe Biden in his farewell speech, though,
Speaker 2: really showcased the rise of an oligarchy, right, I mean
Speaker 2: rule by the richest Americans, and that seems undeniable. You
Speaker 2: know that the richest Americans are coming to power, the
Speaker 2: new administration inhabited, inhabited by all these billionaires.
Speaker 4: Unprecedented.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've never had that kind of wealth with
Speaker 2: power in Washington. And here are a couple of seconds
Speaker 2: of Biden's farewell address.
Speaker 7: That's why my farewell address.
Speaker 5: And I I want.
Speaker 7: To warrn the country of some things that give me
Speaker 7: great concern. This is a dangerous content. And that's the
Speaker 7: dangerous conversation of power in the hands of a very few,
Speaker 7: ultrawealthy people, the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power
Speaker 7: is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in
Speaker 7: America of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally threatens
Speaker 7: our entire democracy. Are basic rights and freedoms and a
Speaker 7: fair shot for everyone to get ahead.
Speaker 2: Well, that certainly is reflected in Biden's general disposition during
Speaker 2: his administration. That is to say, is huge packages associated
Speaker 2: with infrastructure, et cetera were designed to I think lift
Speaker 2: up a lot of these communities that needed lifting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, to give them the fair shot. Yeahsolutely. I mean
Speaker 6: that's the backbone of the Democratic Party. But you know,
Speaker 6: he had fifteen minutes. We in the press got word
Speaker 6: that this was going to be a fifteen minute farewell speech.
Speaker 6: And to think that fifty years, five decades worth of
Speaker 6: your career comes down to a fifteen minutes goodbye speech.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what happened last night.
Speaker 6: It was about maybe halfway into it that this warning
Speaker 6: to the American people came. So he you know, touted
Speaker 6: his accomplishments as what he deems as his accompliments accomplishments,
Speaker 6: and then he went into this. But he started it
Speaker 6: off by the way saying I want nothing but success.
Speaker 6: I wish nothing but success for the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: But let me warn you, well, I mean, you're in
Speaker 2: a weird spot because you know, you are on Team America,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, so you want things to work out,
Speaker 2: but by the same token, you feel like but there's
Speaker 2: this evil force growing. I mean, if you're Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: that's your view, right, Yeah, And he's not wrong, as
Speaker 2: I say about the oligarchical invasion of Washington. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got must the richest man in the world who
Speaker 2: is pretty much got. He's got the hall pass all
Speaker 2: over Washington. He can go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know. I mean he lives basically at
Speaker 3: mar A Lago. He's running one of the bungalows.
Speaker 2: There, and he's accompanied by other billionaires who occupy the administration.
Speaker 3: As well well, even outside.
Speaker 6: I mean he also alludes to the oligarchy is the
Speaker 6: tech industrial complex. Sure, and we're talking Mark Zuckerberg of
Speaker 6: all of the tech titans who are pro Trump.
Speaker 2: Now, well, they sent a million dollars apiece. Zuckerberg sent
Speaker 2: a million dollar check. Bezos and a million dollar check.
Speaker 2: Google sent a million dollars. This is all to his
Speaker 2: inauguration fund. And with the inauguration fund, you're essentially able
Speaker 2: to shovel that money into a lot of different places.
Speaker 2: So yeah, in fact, his inauguration will be attended by
Speaker 2: many of these figures, one of whom has a major
Speaker 2: decision in Washington going down now I'm talking, but the
Speaker 2: CEO of TikTok, So TikTok's supposed to go away on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Trump could come in.
Speaker 2: Trump, we know, wants TikTok and he wants TikTok to survive.
Speaker 2: You could see Trump come as the sort of savior
Speaker 2: of TikTok and early on, maybe even in that first week,
Speaker 2: somehow try to save TikTok through executive order that's being
Speaker 2: talked about or other manner.
Speaker 6: But if the deadline is Sunday, that's still a Biden administration.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure it's but it's interesting coming down to the wire.
Speaker 2: I mean, the CEO of a major social media platform
Speaker 2: hasn't attended, you know, typically an inauguration before, but clearly
Speaker 2: it's a social media wen.
Speaker 3: He also invited ping, he did.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And the head of Chinas will not be in attendance, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it would be despite the invitation.
Speaker 4: Wow.
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