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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Thompson with marlatteis. We are watching events around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>As we mentioned that ceasefire and hostage deal will be

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<v Speaker 2>voted on by the Israeli cabinet. That'll happen tomorrow. The

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<v Speaker 2>election over the inauguration, not ramp up to the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about the incoming Trump administration a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more later this hour, and also later this hour. The

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<v Speaker 2>remarkable stories from an organization I didn't even know existed,

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<v Speaker 2>this Pet Code Love, but apparently they have seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand reunion stories over the last four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're already reuniting lost pets from the wildfire

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<v Speaker 3>zones here. That's right, It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, have them coming through.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a weird and the heels of the wildfire. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a weird kind of conversation going on around Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>nominee for the Energy Secretary, Chris Wright is his name,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's made a bunch of posts in the past

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<v Speaker 2>that deny that climate change are dismissing Essentially climate change

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<v Speaker 2>is a component in these wildfires.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>He called wildfire concerns related to climate policies and global

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<v Speaker 6>warming as hype.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like we're all living that hype. I mean, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just, you know, demonstrably the case that these

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<v Speaker 2>fires are burning hotter, the winds are blowing harder, and

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<v Speaker 2>these seasons are longer than ever before. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just fires, the hurricane seasons, I mean the tropical weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's been amped up. So I think it's fair to

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<v Speaker 2>say the climate is definitely in crisis.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, So scientific studies contradict his claims that it's hype.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we know this.

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<v Speaker 6>But the other thing that's interesting about him is these

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<v Speaker 6>for his confirmation hearings, which began yesterday, you know, these

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<v Speaker 6>old posts were dug up with the hype.

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in conversations that he was having with senators who

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<v Speaker 2>were questioning about him, he said, hey, the entire situation

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<v Speaker 2>in the modern world is more subtle on climate change

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<v Speaker 2>than is publicly recognized. And he says he is not

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<v Speaker 2>denying climate change is happening, or that was related to

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<v Speaker 2>the combustion of fossil fuels, but he's saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>combustion of hydrocarbons enables the modern world. But he does

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<v Speaker 2>say so this is the same guy who's saying it's hype.

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<v Speaker 2>We've increased, as a quote, we've increased to atmospheric CO

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<v Speaker 2>two concentration by fifty percent, making it harder for the

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<v Speaker 2>Earth to shed heat. So even as he says that,

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<v Speaker 2>he somehow tries to push back. So you see what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening. And the reason it's happening is because these

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<v Speaker 2>are hearings that are trying to serve a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>different interests. One is the base, the magabase and the

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<v Speaker 2>GOP base, which wants to push back on any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of aggressive action toward climate change. And the other is

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<v Speaker 2>the grim reality that climate change, climate crises are here

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<v Speaker 2>and they're producing the kind of thing that we're living

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<v Speaker 2>through in southern California.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, look, I want to know when these posts were

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<v Speaker 6>from LinkedIn that were pulled up during the hearing people

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<v Speaker 6>can change, because he's basically saying both things. Right, He's

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<v Speaker 6>calling it hype then and now he's saying that sure

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<v Speaker 6>climate change is real. He also said, quote, there isn't

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<v Speaker 6>dirty energy or clean energy. We were talking off Mike,

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<v Speaker 6>and you were saying, this is just word salad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's word salad because he's again trying to serve both

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<v Speaker 2>interests and both.

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<v Speaker 3>Sides of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and despite Democratic opposition, Senate Republicans, who of course

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<v Speaker 6>hold a fifty three forty seven majority, favored his nomination.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure. I mean, look, we talked about this yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Incoming president President elect Donald Trump will get most, if

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<v Speaker 2>not all, of his cabinet nominees approved. I know everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about heg sith hegsith is. He's a drinker, he

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<v Speaker 2>is a sexual assault assaulter. He paid off a woman

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<v Speaker 2>to stay quiet, and that's just the personal character thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be running this huge government organization with

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<v Speaker 2>and the one organization that he ran, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>ran it into the ground and they had to remove him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hear that, okay, and I hear look, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he is so completely inept and not qualified for this

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<v Speaker 2>role that he shouldn't be even considered in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, Republicans have even said during his hearings that you

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<v Speaker 6>just don't have enough experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I get all of that. Trump wants it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. Trump has a control of the GOP

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<v Speaker 2>that is so complete that I believe they will green

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<v Speaker 2>light all of his nominees and the Democrats can't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just the reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also if Elon Musk wants them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and Musk, it's very funny you say this because

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<v Speaker 2>Jony Earnest in that Senate committee, Joni Earnst is the

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<v Speaker 2>one person who I think they look to as sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a litmus test. And the reason I say that

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<v Speaker 2>is she's someone who served exactly and also she's the

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<v Speaker 2>victim of she's a survivor of sexual assault in the military. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>and the military has an epidemic of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have this odd.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and Heg Seth had said that he doesn't think

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<v Speaker 6>that women should serve in combat roles, and so they

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<v Speaker 6>had the meeting Ernest and haig Seth, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she came out and said, I'm willing to give you

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<v Speaker 6>a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. She got tremendous pressure. And this is why you

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<v Speaker 2>made me think about when you talk about Musk, she

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<v Speaker 2>got tremendous pressure because as she was considering this and

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<v Speaker 2>it was unclear that Jony Ernst was going to actually

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<v Speaker 2>give him Hegseth the seal of approval, she was in

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<v Speaker 2>her state. They ran Musk underwrote it in his pack

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, he has a couple of different packs,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of them just carpetbombed the air television with

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<v Speaker 2>ads saying it's possible that Donald Trump may not get

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<v Speaker 2>his defense secretary through. Your call is needed contact and

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<v Speaker 2>they had a number there. The number is Jonny Ernst office. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So she was besieged by all of this, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was again a campaign organized by Elon Musk. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>right when you say, if Musk wants it, it may happen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, Musk and Trump are on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just trying to support hegseeth as Trump pick. But Ernst,

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<v Speaker 2>who might have been kind of a little sketchy about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's a survivor of sexual assault. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a sexual assaulter. It would seem I mean, certainly there

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<v Speaker 2>was evidence, you know, brought to the committee.

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<v Speaker 4>And again you're going to have your own opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact is, and the only opinion that matters

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<v Speaker 2>is Donald Trump's, and Donald Trump wants Pete Hesith to

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<v Speaker 2>run the Department of.

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<v Speaker 6>As fast and to be clear, after the meeting, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he says said that he didn't feel that way any longer,

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<v Speaker 6>that women should and continue to serve in combat roles.

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<v Speaker 6>And you bring up that the power of Trump, the

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<v Speaker 6>power of Musk obviously billionaires, and this is something that

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<v Speaker 6>Biden addressed head on in his farewell address last night,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know that we'll talk about that a little later.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the rising oligarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of that, but that is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of where the where the shoe pinches and another nominee,

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<v Speaker 2>So we watch all of that for you. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible story coming up with the reunion of pets

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<v Speaker 2>and animals all across southern California being a priority for

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<v Speaker 2>so many who have been displaced. The story is so current.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest is the executive director of pet Co Love,

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<v Speaker 2>and in four years they've had seventy five thousand reunion

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<v Speaker 2>stories and already several reunion stories from these fires. Welcome again,

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<v Speaker 2>the executive director of Petco Love, Suzanne COGT.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Suzanne, Welcome to KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, thank you, Hey, Hi, it's great to be here, Suzanne.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how this service works.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very high tech, it's very twenty twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's doing remarkable things.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain how your service works.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly like gon are the days when we should be

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<v Speaker 1>telling everyone to put a fire on a telephone pole

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<v Speaker 1>around town In the digital age. Petel Love Loss is

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<v Speaker 1>a central national, central lost and found database. It's free.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone can use it and it's simple if you've lost

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<v Speaker 1>the pets to put the pets photo into our database,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know where you lost it. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's found a pet, they'll put the photo of that

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<v Speaker 1>found pet into the database and it'll use photo matching

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<v Speaker 1>technology to make that list to give you a list

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<v Speaker 1>of pets in your area that has been found. And

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<v Speaker 1>our goal is if we can create that one central place,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be reuniting more loss pets and so enable

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<v Speaker 1>to really get there. We're also connected directly to the

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<v Speaker 1>shelters in the area, so if the pets are in

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<v Speaker 1>the shelter, they're going to come into our database automatically.

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<v Speaker 1>We've even integrated with other social media sites next door,

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<v Speaker 1>ring neighbors they're putting, people are posting lost pets. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to get get them into Petco Love Loss too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know I've said a mouthful here, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>really we want to really simplify reuniting loss pets, make

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<v Speaker 1>it accessible to everyone. And I'm going to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you have a pet, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of your pet on your phone, even if that

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<v Speaker 1>pet's got lost. I don't know I've met anyone that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you did say a mouthful, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a mouthful of really interesting things associated with one clearing

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<v Speaker 2>house and the technologies associated with getting that information out

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<v Speaker 2>to so many it's actually brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me just tell you this, Suzanne.

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<v Speaker 6>I was on your website and I put in because

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<v Speaker 6>you put in a zip code, right, and so I

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<v Speaker 6>put in the Altadena or one of them, one of

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<v Speaker 6>Altadena's zip codes, and all sadly, you know, flooded with

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<v Speaker 6>missing pets and Alta Dina and the date since they've

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<v Speaker 6>gone missing, and there were so many from January seventh,

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<v Speaker 6>so many from January the eighth, and the owner can

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<v Speaker 6>put a little descriptor on there, and many of those

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<v Speaker 6>lost pets are because of the wildfires and what I love.

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<v Speaker 6>And you hit on this, but I want to make

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<v Speaker 6>the point very clear that if I'm missing my pet

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<v Speaker 6>and I put it on your website because I'm familiar

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<v Speaker 6>with your website, if somebody finds my pet and uploads

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<v Speaker 6>it to next door I found this missing pet, then

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<v Speaker 6>your photo matching technology says ding, we have a match, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly exactly. I mean, we really just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that you know, especially in times of disasters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this system is crucial anytime, but especially in

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<v Speaker 1>times of disasters and we see more pets displaced, and

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<v Speaker 1>we see shelters sometimes that can't keep up with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how neighbors can help neighbors and really hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to a pet, find the owner and connect with

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<v Speaker 1>them directly, and really be a resource in your community

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<v Speaker 1>to help unite lost pets. Everyone can get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So pet Goo love Lost, It's so Petco underwrites this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious how this happened. It's it's brilliant. As

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying, the technologies are only getting better that

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the technologies, like you said, getting better and

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<v Speaker 1>how we make it be. I'll answer your first question,

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<v Speaker 1>which petso Love is actually a national nonprofit and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's supported by TechCo, but also the incredible customers that

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<v Speaker 1>all going to support petso Love. So we can do

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<v Speaker 1>things like petso Love lost and also support animal welfare

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<v Speaker 1>partners across the country. And you know you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how it gets better. This is a machine learning technology.

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<v Speaker 1>So the more the more photos that we have in there,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. And you also have.

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<v Speaker 6>Even if you haven't lost a pet you want to

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<v Speaker 6>stepping up at this time, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, right now, we're working with the LA

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<v Speaker 1>You can adopt today. If you can't if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>And I will mention one other thing for those people

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<v Speaker 2>And the shelters and organizations, the sort of home grown organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, if we know of one in our

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<v Speaker 2>touch with petco Love because they actually are something of

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, we partner with four thousand, you know, animal

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<v Speaker 1>with all of them on techolove laws, but also adoptions

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<v Speaker 1>So we're partnering across the board. I think if you're

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was just going to say it. I was

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<v Speaker 6>That website is petcolove dot org. If you are impacted

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<v Speaker 6>by the LA fires, you're missing your pet. This is

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<v Speaker 6>just a really great service. And now I know if

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<v Speaker 6>we know where the money is going to Petco Love.

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<v Speaker 3>What a wonderful foundation. Suzanne co Get, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much for joining us today on CAFI.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it. Thanks for having me of.

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<v Speaker 4>Course, bravo. I mean really, bravo.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really what you need is one place, because

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is there's so many disparate groups and you

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know where your animal might have ended up.

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<v Speaker 6>My favorite thing about this is that you don't have

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<v Speaker 6>to know about this group. You can just upload it

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<v Speaker 6>to several different social media sites and that technology will

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<v Speaker 6>match it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the machine learning part of it too. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only getting better at that. That big State Farm announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was pretty big news today that they

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<v Speaker 4>If they dropped you, you're still out of luck.

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<v Speaker 2>But many of the homeowners affected by the fires in

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<v Speaker 6>About seven thousand in the Palisades area alone, in more

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<v Speaker 2>So now they're saying that will not be the case again.

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<v Speaker 2>They might have received a lot of pushback, and I

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<v Speaker 2>this is an awkward moment for these kinds of announcements.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're trying to save their butt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad optics, yeah, I mean, but they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>save their financial butt before, you know, by dropping these people.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are a lot of butts to save from

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<v Speaker 2>news Nation, Libby Dean joins us to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>second Trump era. Hi, Libby, Welcome to Kofi.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>So first let's talk about what's happening in Washington now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nominees for the next Trump administration being questioned by senators.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks as though there is support, meaning the votes

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't you agree.

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<v Speaker 5>These things? Just because the engine Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't really understand, Libby. She's in and out in

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<v Speaker 2>her out so that we can Yeah, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get to a window or something. So I'm sorry, So

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<v Speaker 2>what were you saying, are the votes there to get

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm certainly hope so, And that's what his team thinks.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Republicans there is the backing there in Congress.

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<v Speaker 5>When you sit through these hearings, the question the tough

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is this is Hang on a second, may

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<v Speaker 2>hold on a second. We can't really hear well, can we?

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<v Speaker 2>or something to address I just can't write. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>But we can talk about this, and of course.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, you know, this is the second

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<v Speaker 2>go round with Donald Trump, and so we try it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Levy, can you hear us?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes? I can?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Okay, now better?

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<v Speaker 2>Does Donald Trump have the votes?

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<v Speaker 5>That is a big question that I hope finally I

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<v Speaker 5>can answer for y'all. That is something that he hopes,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he hopes that he has the votes for this.

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<v Speaker 5>He has he has the votes for this. Republicans, if

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<v Speaker 5>you ask them on the Hill if they have the

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<v Speaker 5>reality there are some nominees who are facing even Republican

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<v Speaker 5>criticism behind closed doors. Nominees like R K Junior and

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<v Speaker 5>his stance on vaccines, his stance on abortion, those are

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<v Speaker 5>something that Republicans you know, could take issue with, some

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<v Speaker 5>of them more behind closed doors than in public. And

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<v Speaker 5>That is a concern considering she would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>So Republicans have questions about that. But one thing to

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<v Speaker 5>point out here is it would be incredibly historic for

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<v Speaker 5>a nominee to not get confirmed. You know, the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>hiccup was going to be potentially Matt Gates and he

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<v Speaker 5>was going to face you know, a lot of pushback

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<v Speaker 5>when it came to even Republican circle. So he stepped aside.

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<v Speaker 5>Both seen the passes these nominees who look like they're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to get a step aside before they even

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<v Speaker 5>get to that confirmation process. So I don't think that

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's team would let them get this mark if they

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly the point that Mark was making just a

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<v Speaker 6>few minutes ago. In fact, I'm curious about the power

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<v Speaker 6>of his chief of staff, Susie Wiles. We know that

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<v Speaker 6>she is really, you know, making sure that this is

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<v Speaker 5>So Ju the Wiles of course also walked through Desantas's

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<v Speaker 5>on election night, and she of course I covered the

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<v Speaker 5>entire campaign and she was there by his side. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>when I speak with Trump officials behind closed doors, you

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<v Speaker 5>Susie Wilde, so very clear that she holds a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of power there. Of course, previous chief of staff we

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<v Speaker 5>will see during this administration. But that of course remains

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<v Speaker 5>to be seen if that is the case. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>with her and then deputy being of course Stephen Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also interesting with Susie Wiles. I was just thinking that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as Marla was saying the notion of trying

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<v Speaker 2>what Susie Wiles seems as though she would really be

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<v Speaker 2>good at is making access to Trump a little harder,

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<v Speaker 2>like keeping the White House far more discipline.

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<v Speaker 4>That part of it she probably can control, don't you

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<v Speaker 6>And she also, for instance, said don't post on social

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<v Speaker 6>the confirmation hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that was all, and that was about Musk and

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, keep that in check.

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<v Speaker 5>I think social media is going to play a big

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<v Speaker 5>part in this administration. I mean, anyone, if you talk

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<v Speaker 5>we got tweets, you know, every single day. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>that that necessarily is Susie Wilde's goal. But what you

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned is more of a you know, oversight of who

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<v Speaker 5>to watch, but more of an insider look for sure

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<v Speaker 5>at the White House when you talk about his chief

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<v Speaker 5>of staff. But it's something behind closed doors that is

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<v Speaker 5>certainly worth watching.

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<v Speaker 4>Libby Dean from News Nation in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 3>We got her after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I finally got it to go. Thank you, Levy.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it so much. Will look for you on

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<v Speaker 2>News Nations.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. That's you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing when we come back, we'll maybe touch

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<v Speaker 2>on the promise is made by the incoming president and

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<v Speaker 2>what he can actually deliver on and.

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<v Speaker 3>And day one. Day one is going to be historic, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Already stuff is being walked back and we were just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the incoming administration. It will be a radically

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<v Speaker 2>different Washington. Certainly, the forty seventh President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Monday is the inauguration. It will be I think, informed

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<v Speaker 2>by a lot more security than in inaugurations past.

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<v Speaker 6>The forty fifth president will be taking over the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah there, forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Donald Trump Part deu. He has made some promises

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail that clearly will not happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll just give you one example.

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<v Speaker 2>The eleven million illegal immigrants will be rounded up and

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be a mass deportation.

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<v Speaker 4>It just it's not feasible. It's not feasible.

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<v Speaker 2>From a cost standpoint, it's not feasible, and they're just

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<v Speaker 2>simply isn't the money to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think even so, it still has heightened nerves

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<v Speaker 6>within the immigrant community.

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<v Speaker 2>Most certainly, and you know, it was a rallying cry

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<v Speaker 2>for many Americans sufficient in number two, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>him to win an election, and so shutting the southern border,

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<v Speaker 2>terminating citizenship based on birthright, these are all things that

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<v Speaker 2>are priorities and promises that he made. He's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>taxes on commodities from all nations, particularly China, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Canada mess beyond that exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five to forty percent, even large.

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<v Speaker 2>Scale tax breaks for businesses, for tip workers, social security retirees.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was one of his big things, with no

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<v Speaker 6>tax on tips. When he went to Vegas, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he's the roar of the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was a really good rallying cry. So

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<v Speaker 2>much of Donald Trump's political appeal is based on that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, almost a a bumper sticker sloganism that

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<v Speaker 2>really is effective.

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<v Speaker 6>He I think you can so much so on that

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<v Speaker 6>one that Kamala then adopted that well.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of them seemed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes referring to tacks on tips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, both of them scooped up bits and pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>what they seemed to find was working on the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was interesting looking back at that campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way, they were both beta testing stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>see what the crowd responded to and what polled well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just about to say, you may not

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<v Speaker 2>like Donald Trump, and he's certainly a divisive political figure,

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<v Speaker 2>but wow, he is I think a once in a

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<v Speaker 2>generation kind of media figure, political figure to rise to

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of prominence and popularity. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>he does is he locks in on something that works

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<v Speaker 2>with the populace and he hammers it and it really

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<v Speaker 2>did carry him into office. Now the question becomes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>will he follow through on any of these things? There

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<v Speaker 2>are a million we'll just take tax on tips. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a million loopholes by which things can be considered gratuities,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can somehow essentially create a tax break in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that you didn't intend it. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>may be talking to waitresses and waiters and those who

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy and maybe live on gratuities, but you can consider

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<v Speaker 2>many other things gratuities and you can put them into

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<v Speaker 2>that category. And it'll be up to government to decide.

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<v Speaker 2>That's if they can even get it through.

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<v Speaker 3>But his expertise lies in the art of the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think his I think his expertise lies in the

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<v Speaker 2>art of the cell. He can sell anything. The deals

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<v Speaker 2>will see. I mean, he did get huge tax breaks

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<v Speaker 2>through the first time he was in president, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a priority this time as well. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see exactly what happens when it comes to paying off

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<v Speaker 2>some of these other promises that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's made on the gun out.

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<v Speaker 6>But when I say that, and it's I think we're

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<v Speaker 6>kind of saying the same things. When he says we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to put these big tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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<v Speaker 6>and China.

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<v Speaker 3>This is they make big headlines.

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<v Speaker 6>They it's you know, an underlying threat sort of a thing,

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<v Speaker 6>and then he gets a deal done behind it, there's

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<v Speaker 6>something it's a tit for Tat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're so right about one particular deal that's being

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<v Speaker 2>made right now, and that is the pressure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me a lot of what they used to

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<v Speaker 2>say about LBJ. I mean, if you read about LBJ,

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<v Speaker 2>he get on the phone and he would pressure these

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<v Speaker 2>senators and congress people to get his legislation through. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there was really strong arming from the president. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what Trump is doing now to get his nominees.

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<v Speaker 3>To the compromisions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's why I was saying, he'll get them all.

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<v Speaker 4>He will.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there'll be very little pushback when you actually

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<v Speaker 2>get a call from Trump Pete Hagsith, whatever troubled aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of his history. There may be whatever thin resume he

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<v Speaker 2>brings to this Department of Defense. If Trump and this

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what's happen, and calls enough of those senators,

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<v Speaker 2>he will get confirmed.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The only one that couldn't pull that off is Matt

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<v Speaker 6>Gats And now he's one of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a media darling. Yeah. Interesting. So all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things will take shape in the next administration, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Democrats they have some you know, real I think

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<v Speaker 2>they have to have a big huddle, figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>will happen with that party and what their priorities are moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Forward, messaging in it. Who's going to be the leader?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean who the leaders of that party are.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Joe Biden in his farewell speech, though,

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<v Speaker 2>really showcased the rise of an oligarchy, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>rule by the richest Americans, and that seems undeniable. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that the richest Americans are coming to power, the

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<v Speaker 2>new administration inhabited, inhabited by all these billionaires.

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<v Speaker 4>Unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've never had that kind of wealth with

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<v Speaker 2>power in Washington. And here are a couple of seconds

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<v Speaker 2>of Biden's farewell address.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why my farewell address.

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<v Speaker 5>And I I want.

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<v Speaker 7>To warrn the country of some things that give me

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<v Speaker 7>great concern. This is a dangerous content. And that's the

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<v Speaker 7>dangerous conversation of power in the hands of a very few,

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<v Speaker 7>ultrawealthy people, the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power

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<v Speaker 7>is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in

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<v Speaker 7>America of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally threatens

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<v Speaker 7>our entire democracy. Are basic rights and freedoms and a

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<v Speaker 7>fair shot for everyone to get ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that certainly is reflected in Biden's general disposition during

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<v Speaker 2>his administration. That is to say, is huge packages associated

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<v Speaker 2>with infrastructure, et cetera were designed to I think lift

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot of these communities that needed lifting.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, to give them the fair shot. Yeahsolutely. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>that's the backbone of the Democratic Party. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he had fifteen minutes. We in the press got word

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<v Speaker 6>that this was going to be a fifteen minute farewell speech.

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<v Speaker 6>And to think that fifty years, five decades worth of

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<v Speaker 6>your career comes down to a fifteen minutes goodbye speech.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what happened last night.

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<v Speaker 6>It was about maybe halfway into it that this warning

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<v Speaker 6>to the American people came. So he you know, touted

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<v Speaker 6>his accomplishments as what he deems as his accompliments accomplishments,

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<v Speaker 6>and then he went into this. But he started it

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<v Speaker 6>off by the way saying I want nothing but success.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish nothing but success for the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me warn you, well, I mean, you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a weird spot because you know, you are on Team America,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, so you want things to work out,

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<v Speaker 2>but by the same token, you feel like but there's

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<v Speaker 2>this evil force growing. I mean, if you're Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your view, right, Yeah, And he's not wrong, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say about the oligarchical invasion of Washington. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got must the richest man in the world who

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty much got. He's got the hall pass all

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<v Speaker 2>over Washington. He can go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know. I mean he lives basically at

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<v Speaker 3>mar A Lago. He's running one of the bungalows.

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<v Speaker 2>There, and he's accompanied by other billionaires who occupy the administration.

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<v Speaker 3>As well well, even outside.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he also alludes to the oligarchy is the

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<v Speaker 6>tech industrial complex. Sure, and we're talking Mark Zuckerberg of

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<v Speaker 6>all of the tech titans who are pro Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, they sent a million dollars apiece. Zuckerberg sent

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollar check. Bezos and a million dollar check.

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<v Speaker 2>Google sent a million dollars. This is all to his

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<v Speaker 2>inauguration fund. And with the inauguration fund, you're essentially able

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<v Speaker 2>to shovel that money into a lot of different places.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, in fact, his inauguration will be attended by

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<v Speaker 2>many of these figures, one of whom has a major

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<v Speaker 2>decision in Washington going down now I'm talking, but the

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<v Speaker 2>CEO of TikTok, So TikTok's supposed to go away on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump could come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump, we know, wants TikTok and he wants TikTok to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see Trump come as the sort of savior

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<v Speaker 2>of TikTok and early on, maybe even in that first week,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow try to save TikTok through executive order that's being

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<v Speaker 2>talked about or other manner.

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<v Speaker 6>But if the deadline is Sunday, that's still a Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure it's but it's interesting coming down to the wire.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the CEO of a major social media platform

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't attended, you know, typically an inauguration before, but clearly

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<v Speaker 2>it's a social media wen.

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<v Speaker 3>He also invited ping, he did.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 4>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And the head of Chinas will not be in attendance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it would be despite the invitation.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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