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Speaker 2: Yets Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the
Speaker 2: Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera
Speaker 2: in with me. The day is Dave Silver and my
Speaker 2: boy Henry. How are you gonna doing? Doing good? Good
Speaker 2: to be here on a Friday going into the weekend,
Speaker 2: last day of the week, should it? It's been a
Speaker 2: good week, Dave, we were part of that on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: came in, Yeah, talked to uh I think the garment
Speaker 2: people right Tuesdayesday, the marathon. Yeah, we've had a lot
Speaker 2: of good guess this week. Yesterday's show was pretty pretty
Speaker 2: good Kendrea and John Fina. Today, I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: have another good show. We love to talk about too.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Henry will have a lot of breaking news
Speaker 2: and last night's last night's draft games coming up? Are
Speaker 2: you obey otherwise right? NBA?
Speaker 3: Definitely, there's a lot of a lot of stuff going
Speaker 3: on this time of year, for sure, but the drafts
Speaker 3: still going on with the next couple of rounds today
Speaker 3: got through the first one with of course the big
Speaker 3: news from the U of a side with TAC going
Speaker 3: to Carolina.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was I was sitting at some place and
Speaker 2: had him turn the TV onto it. As they turned
Speaker 2: it on, it was he was going. He was going
Speaker 2: at eight because it was varying reports, right, you could
Speaker 2: go high or you could go in the twenties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and obviously he won eight. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I think that was about as good as
Speaker 3: we could expect it based on the numbers and people
Speaker 3: we've been heard about and some of the other projections
Speaker 3: had him, like you said, in the twenties. And you know,
Speaker 3: the reaction has been kind of mixed. People are you know,
Speaker 3: there's some people said, yeah, he was the best receiver
Speaker 3: available and Carolina made a good choice, and others are like,
Speaker 3: well maybe maybe not, but.
Speaker 2: Well some people were questioning his attitude or his commitment
Speaker 2: or whatever they were questioning. McShee was talking about who
Speaker 2: he had talked to a source sort of give him
Speaker 2: some bad words. Then later in the night last night
Speaker 2: I saw Jed talking about him and saying he was fantastic.
Speaker 2: You know, who do you believe in?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think a lot of that is part of
Speaker 3: playing the game of you know, trying to uh, you know,
Speaker 3: make him look bad before the draft for other teams,
Speaker 3: and you know, spreading the word and hey, well we'll
Speaker 3: say that, well some things publicly.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's kind of been the word
Speaker 3: today about Shador Sanders, is that some of the stuff
Speaker 3: has been said publicly about him, and that's just other
Speaker 3: people are knocking him and you know, make them look bad.
Speaker 2: So let's go there, Henry, I want you to get
Speaker 2: involved with this. So why do you think that Shador
Speaker 2: did not get picked in the first round? Hey, and
Speaker 2: if this is the worst thing that happened to Shador,
Speaker 2: he'll be fine.
Speaker 3: You want me to talk start, Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not a talent evaluators, so I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: some of the things I heard today was it. I
Speaker 3: guess he and cam Ward had been training together and
Speaker 3: sometimes the scouts. Scouts would be out there and they'd
Speaker 3: be like so obvious that cam Ward was better than him,
Speaker 3: stronger arm, bigger, able to run better. I mean, there
Speaker 3: are those kinds of things I heard. Again, I don't know,
Speaker 3: we weren't there, but that's those are some of the
Speaker 3: messages that we're getting. There's obviously the Dion factor, I
Speaker 3: think is going to play and it's good, and what
Speaker 3: say you know that he's he's a big personality and
Speaker 3: other player's fathers sometimes can get in the way and.
Speaker 2: Who knows, yes, so that you're thinking that may have
Speaker 2: got him out of or had him fall out of
Speaker 2: the first round. No matter who deals with him, second, third,
Speaker 2: fourth round, is going to deal with that. If that's true, right, uh,
Speaker 2: then why would you even want him? I mean, you'll
Speaker 2: put up with a bunch of crap for a good player.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure if that plays a part. But
Speaker 2: I like the the thought on it, because yeah, they
Speaker 2: come as a package. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, we saw the ball fan was Lamal LaMelo, their
Speaker 3: dad whatever his name was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a different the dude that's just crazy because
Speaker 2: he didn't play. I mean that's true. You know he's
Speaker 2: so dad trying to pump up his sons. Henry, what
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it was kind of what
Speaker 4: Dave said about the big personality, But I also think
Speaker 4: it's just a lot of teams don't need a quarterback
Speaker 4: as badly as people see.
Speaker 2: That's another one I think today I was coming Ribs
Speaker 2: one in the first round. Yeah, we were talking now
Speaker 2: or some of the guys an analysis was talking about
Speaker 2: the thirty third pick and the fortieth pick that maybe
Speaker 2: the next wave here because after that nobody needs a quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's where maybe Cleveland comes into play. That was a
Speaker 2: talk last night.
Speaker 3: Was there going to get him that Cleveland makes all
Speaker 3: these all these deals early on? But that didn't that
Speaker 3: didn't work out that way. So yeah, last year, what
Speaker 3: six in the first round? This year too, and they
Speaker 3: were saying all along, this wasn't a great quarterback class
Speaker 3: obviously compared to the last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't watch him enough to know that he
Speaker 2: was good or bad. I just you know, he's just
Speaker 2: the son of DM Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, he comes into a program that was horrible
Speaker 3: and they basically got him to be pretty respectable. They
Speaker 3: had no defense and basically had no offensive line. It
Speaker 3: seemed like, so every game was basically you know, fifty
Speaker 3: to forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of the things, and I'm sure I
Speaker 2: don't know we talked about this with oh Rhino yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you got these calls for basketball
Speaker 2: when when the draft was happening, But I got a
Speaker 2: number of calls when I covered it day to day.
Speaker 2: You know, how's how these guys doing in public? In
Speaker 2: the public? Did you hear anything off the off the court?
Speaker 2: How were they with you dealing with you? BD wise?
Speaker 2: Did you have to answer some of those.
Speaker 3: I really don't remember that ever happening. That you would
Speaker 3: get calls from other newspaper people.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, from NBA teams, actual teams now, yeah,
Speaker 2: I never did. Yeah, the reps or the you know, scouts,
Speaker 2: how is he in this situation? And I said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, mostly it was about you know, the two
Speaker 2: thousand and one guys, you know, Gilbert and Richard and
Speaker 2: Luke and people like that. Never had issues with them.
Speaker 2: They spoke freely, of course, and Loot allowed it, which
Speaker 2: was great. But no, never any issues.
Speaker 3: I don't ever recall anyone from the pros ever reaching
Speaker 3: out to us. I think it seemed like they were
Speaker 3: mostly relying on what they would see in the media,
Speaker 3: and they could probably base it on just you know,
Speaker 3: seeing stories and seeing who was interviewed. Are they are
Speaker 3: they out there publicly? You know, will they be will
Speaker 3: they be comfortable doing that? You know with the professionals.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things I think too that involved
Speaker 2: Shador was more of his uh his not body language,
Speaker 2: but his attitude were my poop doesn't stink kind of thing?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 2: Did he come off that way?
Speaker 3: I heard those stories too that his interviews were not good,
Speaker 3: and you know that's I guess you hear that from
Speaker 3: the combine or whenever those interviews are done with teams.
Speaker 3: But apparently didn't grade out too well there either, So
Speaker 3: that could be another issue. And somewhat much of it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a it's gonna be a big pr move.
Speaker 3: Whoever takes them, it's gonna be big news, you know.
Speaker 3: He basically as soon as cam Ward was drafted, that
Speaker 3: was like we barely heard about.
Speaker 2: Him all night long last night. It was like, well,
Speaker 2: is the dog gonna get picked? Yeah? Well do they
Speaker 2: still take the wonder? I'm not sure. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: because we have I haven't heard much of it, but
Speaker 2: I'm just remembering that's what they used to do, right,
Speaker 2: And then you'd hear some oh this guy failed that thing,
Speaker 2: you know, take a left it out crickie, where you
Speaker 2: go stupid questions? Right? Uh? So, I probably they don't
Speaker 2: do that anymore. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but again, there were some there were
Speaker 3: some stories about him not doing well with the interview
Speaker 3: and not handling himself, you know, like he didn't really
Speaker 3: care too much about it.
Speaker 2: He was talking to general managers of these teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well he's already made millions yeah on his I L
Speaker 2: L right, yeah, you know, and then flashing the watches
Speaker 2: and you know, treating people whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they kept cutting to them during the broadcast.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I was switching back and forth between
Speaker 3: the NFL and ESPN broadcasts, and uh, you know, he
Speaker 3: cut into him at the house, showing him standing there
Speaker 3: like watching TV.
Speaker 2: And just where were they at Texas? Oh okay, so
Speaker 2: they were somewhere else. There was somewhere else and they
Speaker 2: were like a Dion's house, yeah, okay or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't in Colorado, they weren't in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: But there was just about everybody else that was in
Speaker 3: Green Bay got picked, except I guess the Alabama quarterback
Speaker 3: showed up and no one really Jaden Milroe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: no one really and projected to go in the first round.
Speaker 3: But he was there anyway, Okay, was he in the
Speaker 3: room the green room, were out on the stands.
Speaker 2: I think he was in the room, you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: some people just go and sit in the stands, and yeah,
Speaker 2: happened to be there. Yeah, they introduced him.
Speaker 3: They did like a runway shot at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the night where they all you know, all the ones
Speaker 3: that were invited, I guess, were there, and he was there.
Speaker 2: He was on that on that stage. Yeah. I remember
Speaker 2: doing that with Mike Bibby when he was picked number
Speaker 2: two and two ninety eight. Uh, the O'Neill kid, the
Speaker 2: youngster germano news German, and he went and fell and
Speaker 2: fell and really and he was sitting there just waiting
Speaker 2: and waiting to be picked back in those days. And
Speaker 2: he turned out to be a pretty good player. Whatever
Speaker 2: happened to Michael olo Kandi. Oh yeah, Well I wrote
Speaker 2: that column that night before knowing that in Vancouver, knowing
Speaker 2: that they were going to pick uh, they weren't gonna
Speaker 2: pick Bibby, which made no sense. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: the Clippers being the Clippers, because they went and in
Speaker 2: the GM at the time, I can't remember his name.
Speaker 2: He said, you can't teach hyde. Yeah, but you can't
Speaker 2: teach winning either, you know, and that's what Bibby did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was bad. I remember.
Speaker 5: Just that.
Speaker 2: I remember that night. Just as soon as I said,
Speaker 2: you know, the.
Speaker 3: First pick in the draft is Michael, everybody just starts cheering.
Speaker 2: Again, where do you play?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: You should know this. Damon coach there Georgia Tech specific
Speaker 2: Oh u a p that's right. Yeah, Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a strange one because he was he was a big,
Speaker 2: big dude, right. It just didn't have the didn't last
Speaker 2: more than three or four years. Basically, That's why these
Speaker 2: things are crap. That's why recruiting is a crap shoot.
Speaker 2: That's why these these drafts are crap shooting. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: just never know, especially especially this sport football.
Speaker 3: It just seems like, you know, all it takes is
Speaker 3: one bad injury and your your whole everything you've worked
Speaker 3: for could be could be messed up, just just with
Speaker 3: that one one thing. Basketball, they seem to come back,
Speaker 3: I mean, other than like the Achilles that seems to
Speaker 3: take all the time, but usually basketball players are a
Speaker 3: little more resilient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see what happens. What time does that start, Henry,
Speaker 2: do we know six five o'clock again? Five four, So
Speaker 2: we'll be doing this show. Okay, so he'll keep us
Speaker 2: updated as we move forward. Okay, So Drew Dixon here
Speaker 2: at three seventeen, former U of A football player slash
Speaker 2: now slash other school Limestone What did you say? Limestone College?
Speaker 2: Limestone College? Do we see where that was at South Carolina?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So he'll be on the show. He's now
Speaker 2: with the Sugar Skulls, you know, obviously the indoor league
Speaker 2: team here at Tucson. So we'll talk to him, and
Speaker 2: then at four seventeen, I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: I don't think. I know it's going to be coach
Speaker 2: Shields from the men's tennis team. All he does is win,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have him on going to the next
Speaker 2: round the regionals I think, or whatever, to the playoffs. Na. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're done very well. We'll talk about his time there
Speaker 2: this year and he just continues to win.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean men's tennis never really been much of a
Speaker 3: factor though in our news for a long time, and
Speaker 3: they've kind of emerged with some great players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just now recently, right over the years. I
Speaker 2: said this when with Jay and I are doing the
Speaker 2: story doing the show last year that I thought, no,
Speaker 2: no disrespect to all the other ones, that Clancy Shields
Speaker 2: was the best coach on campus. Yeah, look what he's done.
Speaker 2: This doesn't happen by accident. He's done unbelievably. Well.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's good to see moving into a
Speaker 3: different term, different to conference and they're going to dominate.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, well they were pretty high up there
Speaker 2: in the PAC twelve to USC. I think the USC
Speaker 2: was the team to beat and beat him a couple
Speaker 2: of times. So, you know, like you said that, they
Speaker 2: weren't in the news very much. Now they're in the
Speaker 2: news a lot. No, I mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was doing pretty well. Mountain Region Coach of the Year,
Speaker 3: Mountain West Coach of the Year, Southwest Region Coach of
Speaker 3: the Year, and then it was PAC twelve Coach of
Speaker 3: the Year three times, you know, twenty four to twenty nineteen's. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's been some success out of that program and nobody
Speaker 3: saw coming.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't know. Okay, let's take a break, Henry,
Speaker 2: and we got about five five in the break, about
Speaker 2: five minutes. Yeah, okay, we'll take a break and come
Speaker 2: back with I think Drew Dixon.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the xys and ohs. This is Eye
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to in the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera and we'll be today
Speaker 2: is Dave Silver Now on the phone. We have Drew
Speaker 2: Dixon former you a wide receiver now with the Sugar
Speaker 2: Schools and Drew, how you doing.
Speaker 12: I'm doing great.
Speaker 13: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine. Hey, thanks for joining us. A nice
Speaker 2: little move you've made recently, right joining the Sugar Schools.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about it?
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, so good.
Speaker 13: It's a great opportunity and you know, I'm glad to
Speaker 13: be on the team.
Speaker 3: Feel good to be back in your hometown area as
Speaker 3: well to play some football.
Speaker 13: Absolutely absolutely being able to play from of the Tucson
Speaker 13: fans again, you know, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: Did you leave? What was your situation before you signed
Speaker 2: with the Sugar Schools.
Speaker 14: So, before sign of the Sugar Schools, I had actually
Speaker 14: gotten married in twenty three to my wife in New Zealand.
Speaker 13: And then I was in South Carolina finishing up.
Speaker 14: My last season with UH the Mike Ferry.
Speaker 5: And Jericho Katchery.
Speaker 13: And then from there I got an opportunity with the
Speaker 13: Green Bay Packers, and then I also got an opportunity
Speaker 13: with the Detroit Lions. Didn't make a roster, so I
Speaker 13: was kind of in free agency for a while, and
Speaker 13: then it was in September well a coach back had
Speaker 13: reached out and I got an opportunity to sign a
Speaker 13: contract with the Sugar Schools. And then I was actually
Speaker 13: in Tucson during that time, and then now I'm now
Speaker 13: I'm just.
Speaker 2: Here, No here okay?
Speaker 5: Cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, kind of full circle, right, you're doing
Speaker 2: all these things here. You must be about twenty five ish,
Speaker 2: twenty six? Uh twenty six yeah, twenty six okay, So
Speaker 2: still young? Do you hope to this might be a
Speaker 2: dumb question. Do you hope to kind of show again
Speaker 2: that you're still capable and maybe you get another shot
Speaker 2: at it bigger? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Absolutely, Like you know, that's the gold plane is you know,
Speaker 13: I am twenty six now, so I have two kids
Speaker 13: and a wife.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, at.
Speaker 13: This point in my career, you know, I'm still young
Speaker 13: and fresh in the body, you know, still able to
Speaker 13: play the game, and you know, playing it better than
Speaker 13: I was before. So yeah, I just keep playing, staying
Speaker 13: in shape and staying ready for an opportunity to go to.
Speaker 5: A higher league.
Speaker 2: Had you ever played indoor football before this?
Speaker 5: No, this is my first season indoor So what's what's happened?
Speaker 2: Like it's just you know, switching to almost a different
Speaker 2: sport in a way.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's real different. You know, it's similar
Speaker 13: to the CFL. I guess with the high motions and stuff.
Speaker 13: But you know, the field is fifty yards long and
Speaker 13: twenty eight yards wide, so and then it's indoor. It's
Speaker 13: just a totally different game with angles and.
Speaker 5: And just spacing on the field.
Speaker 13: He only got sixteen people on the field at the
Speaker 13: time time, so you know, it's just a fast paced,
Speaker 13: different game for sure.
Speaker 2: So you've only been around for like a couple of games.
Speaker 13: Right, yes, so this will be our third game. But
Speaker 13: this week, I actually I came down with the cold.
Speaker 13: I was battling a cold last game, so I'm actually
Speaker 13: gonna be sitting out of this game, so I don't
Speaker 13: get the team just so I don't get the team sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I think your skills is what
Speaker 2: when's your next game this.
Speaker 5: Weekend on Sunday, yep in San Diego.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's why. That's what I had read. Okay,
Speaker 2: no cool, No, good for you. Good for you to
Speaker 2: get to sit out and then get recovered here in
Speaker 2: a second. Uh so, so, how has it been it
Speaker 2: just being with the team and new group of guys.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 13: Man, just from hearing about the past of the Sugar Skulls,
Speaker 13: they haven't been. They weren't doing well previously the past
Speaker 13: two seasons. But with the group of guys that we got,
Speaker 13: I mean it's you know, a coach says it's different,
Speaker 13: but you can just feel that it's different. You know,
Speaker 13: everybody is focused on details and we.
Speaker 5: Want to win games.
Speaker 13: You know, the end of the day, it's called a
Speaker 13: business trip for the kids that are out of town
Speaker 13: coming here to Tson to play. But you know, we
Speaker 13: got five four or five months to to buckle down
Speaker 13: and and practice and and win games and and helps of.
Speaker 2: Playing in the championship.
Speaker 3: Are most of the guys, you know, former college players
Speaker 3: that you know are hoping maybe for you know, another
Speaker 3: shot at the big time or what's the goal of most.
Speaker 2: Of the teammates.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we got a rookies on the team, so
Speaker 5: a lot of them.
Speaker 13: Are first out of college as well, so you know,
Speaker 13: coming to play and indoor football, you know, it's.
Speaker 5: Just that it's a it's a step to go to.
Speaker 2: A higher league for sure.
Speaker 13: So you know, coming here and winning games and dominating
Speaker 13: this uh this league, you know, definitely is the goal
Speaker 13: to help us get back into those higher leagues or
Speaker 13: get a first opportunity into those higher leagues for some.
Speaker 2: Did you know any of the guys before you got
Speaker 2: back on the roster, Did you play against any of them?
Speaker 13: I actually have not a lot of them are from
Speaker 13: the East Coat, so it was my first time meeting
Speaker 13: a lot of the kids. But yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 13: anybody previously.
Speaker 2: You've had You've had a pretty nice career, kind of
Speaker 2: like a movement career. You came here Ata Sabino, right, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: How would you describe your career because it's been under
Speaker 2: a few coaches too.
Speaker 13: Man, Yeah, it's been a journey, you know, it's been
Speaker 13: It's definitely been a journey of oh, you know, just perseverance.
Speaker 13: You know, I've been I played with rich Rod my
Speaker 13: first season, which was my red shirt season, so I
Speaker 13: wasn't on the field that year. But you know, after
Speaker 13: he got fired, you know, it was a big change
Speaker 13: for the Arizona fans and the players as well. But
Speaker 13: when someone came, you know, we had high hopes and
Speaker 13: you know, the it was looking like a new era
Speaker 13: and everything was looking good. But then you know, the
Speaker 13: Tusk community knows that we went nine and twenty within
Speaker 13: those three seasons, so it was a real tough time,
Speaker 13: you know, just making sure to stay believing in yourself,
Speaker 13: believing in the product.
Speaker 2: That you have.
Speaker 13: But you know, it was just a real, real season
Speaker 13: of determination, you know, even though you're losing, but just
Speaker 13: still believing in the craft that God has blessed me with,
Speaker 13: you know, and then even just being able to go
Speaker 13: to a smaller school in South Carolina from Arizona, taking
Speaker 13: that leap of faith, and then still being able to
Speaker 13: get the opportunity of going to the NFL and then
Speaker 13: not getting on a roster. It was like, you know,
Speaker 13: it's a lot, especially having a wife and kids. It's like, man,
Speaker 13: you know, the game is, it's not guaranteed. So you know,
Speaker 13: when you gets those positions, it's really just lies down
Speaker 13: to your foundation of you know, what do you do
Speaker 13: you believe in yourself or do you believe.
Speaker 14: In the talents that God has given you? And just
Speaker 14: really trusting the process.
Speaker 13: You know, it's been a real process for me to
Speaker 13: just stay patient and wait for my opportunities to arise.
Speaker 13: And you know, I have you know, gotten opportunities, and
Speaker 13: you know, I'm blessed to be able to say that
Speaker 13: I'm still chasing the dream.
Speaker 3: Are you still back and forth between quarterback and receiver
Speaker 3: and which one do you prefer nowadays?
Speaker 13: So, you know, coming with the Sugar Skulls, you know,
Speaker 13: our first two games, we had a real problem with
Speaker 13: the quarterback position. So when coach Beck had signed me,
Speaker 13: you know, it's been viable option to play receiver or quarterback.
Speaker 13: So right now, you know, I have been practicing at
Speaker 13: both positions, and it feels great to play quarterback again
Speaker 13: and play my original position. But you know, right now,
Speaker 13: I'm like, it's coach wherever coach needs me. You know,
Speaker 13: I'm happy to play receiver or quarterback, just as I've
Speaker 13: had experience now as a receiver. You know, I feel
Speaker 13: I feel blessed to play quarterback or receiver. How you know,
Speaker 13: it's always fun playing quarterback.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, how was it when they moved
Speaker 2: you after playing quarterback all the time?
Speaker 14: Man? Yeah, it was a it was a it was
Speaker 14: a business move, you know. You know, I just had
Speaker 14: to trust my coaches and trust my mentors that it
Speaker 14: was a good transition for me to give me opportunity
Speaker 14: to get to the NFL. And I did get an
Speaker 14: opportunity at receiver, so you know, it was a lot
Speaker 14: of learning at first, just getting comfortable actually being coached
Speaker 14: and practicing.
Speaker 5: At that position.
Speaker 13: But you know, it's always good to see, you know,
Speaker 13: just production in your craft as you just continue to work.
Speaker 2: Did you so and so after your time in with
Speaker 2: Limestone in South Carolina, did you is Tucson home? Was
Speaker 2: Tucson home all the time?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 13: Well, I was in New Zealand actually for about a
Speaker 13: month and a half after my season at Limestone in
Speaker 13: South Carolina because I had my wife and I had
Speaker 13: my first son at the time, So living out in
Speaker 13: New Zealand, and once my agent kind of you know,
Speaker 13: gave me a path to get ready for the draft.
Speaker 13: I actually had came back to Tucson during time. That
Speaker 13: was last January, and so just from last January to now,
Speaker 13: I had stayed home. You know, I came home and
Speaker 13: once I went with Green Bay, you know, we're kind
Speaker 13: of just like where whatever opportunity I have will move there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, two sons been home for the past year. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What about were you training in New Zealand as well
Speaker 3: as starting a family? Are you playing any sports?
Speaker 13: Uh well, I was just just training for football, just
Speaker 13: getting ready for the draft and just staying healthy and
Speaker 13: you know.
Speaker 5: Just continue to perfede my craft.
Speaker 13: But you know, I was staying active and training to
Speaker 13: get ready for the league.
Speaker 2: Like no rugby or anything like that.
Speaker 13: I you know, I didn't, but actually did get an
Speaker 13: opportunity with the u n r L, which is the
Speaker 13: National Rugby League. Well I didn't pursue that, but you know,
Speaker 13: it's kind of just it's always there if I want to,
Speaker 13: you know, play rugby, but I didn't end up playing.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, what did you get your
Speaker 2: degree in one and two? I'm sure you start party
Speaker 2: already thinking about the future of giving you have the family,
Speaker 2: what do you want to do when this.
Speaker 5: Is all done?
Speaker 13: So I got my degree in business administration with a
Speaker 13: minor and leadership.
Speaker 14: You know, I've always wanted to have been interested in
Speaker 14: business and just.
Speaker 13: Being like a business owner and just being in sales
Speaker 13: and stuff. So you know, actually now playing with the.
Speaker 14: Sugar skulls, I am in financial services now.
Speaker 13: So I'm an executive planner now, and that's kind of
Speaker 13: like a field that I want to have as a
Speaker 13: foundation as I start opening up different businesses and whatnot.
Speaker 13: But you know, being in this field right now is
Speaker 13: being an executive planner and helping people put their money
Speaker 13: in the right places and setting up business owners to
Speaker 13: you know, scale.
Speaker 5: Or just be successful.
Speaker 13: You know, that's something that I'm really, I'm really liking
Speaker 13: right now.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: Did you graduate from Arizona? Did you get a degree
Speaker 3: here or for the other from Limestone?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 13: I got a degree from Arizona and from Limestone, both
Speaker 13: in business administration.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool. We were talking I guess maybe yesterday, the
Speaker 2: day before, I don't know it was day or not,
Speaker 2: but talking about some of the all time best players
Speaker 2: to come out of Tucson. Obviously you're you're on that
Speaker 2: list at some point somewhere in that list. Who are
Speaker 2: some of the better players you faced in your time
Speaker 2: and maybe some of the people that you saw growing up.
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, playing with Jamari Joiner and Stanley berry.
Speaker 12: Hill, like those are.
Speaker 14: Two other Tucson products that are real good.
Speaker 13: And Jamar is my real close friend and so but
Speaker 13: obviously and then you got you know, b John Robertson
Speaker 13: around the same age, about two years younger than me.
Speaker 13: You know, those those three.
Speaker 14: People are some people that I just, you know, really
Speaker 14: admire playing with.
Speaker 13: And being able to see them grow in Tucson and
Speaker 13: become great products. You know, that's been really good. And
Speaker 13: obviously my freshman year, Cam Denton was one of those
Speaker 13: names too, you know, just a two soon great and yeah,
Speaker 13: just a couple of names.
Speaker 2: Did you grow up playing like youth football? Here a
Speaker 2: Pop Warner?
Speaker 13: Yeah, so I actually started out playing basketball and baseball.
Speaker 13: So for the longest time growing up, I was always
Speaker 13: you know, wanted to be a Major League baseball player.
Speaker 13: And then you know, obviously all my friends start playing
Speaker 13: Pop Warner going to grade school, and then my mom
Speaker 13: finally let me play when I was about eleven or twelve.
Speaker 13: So once I started playing at eleven or twelve, you know,
Speaker 13: football really just stole my heart and I just really
Speaker 13: fell in love with football.
Speaker 3: What other schools were looking at you as you were
Speaker 3: coming out of Sabino.
Speaker 13: Man, I had a lot of Pac twelve schools at Washington, USC,
Speaker 13: Oregon State. I had some smaller schools in California, San Jose,
Speaker 13: had New both in New Mexico's New Mexico State, a lot.
Speaker 5: Of you know, and so mostly just then.
Speaker 13: And packed twelve schools were really.
Speaker 2: So was it was this maybe too hyperbole. But when
Speaker 2: you signed with you of a was it a completion
Speaker 2: of a dream or you just felt maybe that was
Speaker 2: your best opportunity.
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 13: Uh, it was really you know, there was a there
Speaker 13: was a few different things way and I you know,
Speaker 13: my my freshman year, my grandma that you know, my mother,
Speaker 13: and my brother and I we moved in with my
Speaker 13: grandparents after my parents had got divorced, and you know,
Speaker 13: just growing up in Tucson and going to the Arizona
Speaker 13: games and watching the games with my family. You know,
Speaker 13: my grandma was a real big fan of She always was,
Speaker 13: you know, wanting to see me play for the Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 13: And my mom had a whole bunch of health issues
Speaker 13: in high school. She had got cancer my senior year.
Speaker 13: But you know, I really was just wanting to stay
Speaker 13: home just with everything that was going on. And you know,
Speaker 13: you know, I had a lot of different OPPORTUNO used
Speaker 13: to play quarterback at some schools and in Arizona. Wanted
Speaker 13: me to switch the receiver, but I just felt that
Speaker 13: I was supposed to stay home and that that was
Speaker 13: the right decision for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna ask you, you're about what three
Speaker 2: years too late? With his nil stuff.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's a
Speaker 14: great opportunity.
Speaker 13: For kids, you know, just to start building their portfolios
Speaker 13: and and and their wealth. But yeah, you know, it
Speaker 13: would have been a great opportunity to uh to get
Speaker 13: something like that, but I know that they had just
Speaker 13: passed something in court, you know, being able to give
Speaker 13: a little bit of compensation to the players that missed in.
Speaker 13: So I do have an opportunity from there to get
Speaker 13: some get some compensation for that, which would be great.
Speaker 13: But also also playing for the Sugar Skulls, you know,
Speaker 13: I am also open now to be able to get name,
Speaker 13: image and likeness deals. So you know there's a different
Speaker 13: couple of sponsorships that I'm looking for and Hucson and
Speaker 13: so that's a good.
Speaker 5: Opportunity for me.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it makes sense. I was gonna say too.
Speaker 2: You might have potential clients from you guys.
Speaker 14: Teammates, Absolutely, absolutely, because you know, especially.
Speaker 13: Being in financial services now exactly being able to have
Speaker 13: that knowledge of money, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And they would trust they would trust another UA guy
Speaker 2: or you know somebody who's like.
Speaker 3: Them, right absolutely, Yeah, Okay, so you guys, you're going
Speaker 3: the road this week, but you're back next Saturday for
Speaker 3: a home game. Can you I've never been to a game.
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, I have not been to
Speaker 3: a Sugar Skulls. Can you let me know why why
Speaker 3: I should come out and watch?
Speaker 14: Man. It's something different that you haven't seen.
Speaker 13: And you know, it is starting to get hot in
Speaker 13: Tucson and people are looking for things to do, and
Speaker 13: it's it's a great opportunity to go watch football indoors.
Speaker 5: And see something that you haven't seen.
Speaker 13: And you know, we're.
Speaker 14: Playing Arizona Rattlers.
Speaker 13: They we lost to them our first game up in Phoenix,
Speaker 13: but they did win the champce being shipped last year.
Speaker 13: And you know we're we're a championship caliber team too.
Speaker 13: And and it's right here in our hometown, Tucson, and
Speaker 13: we can showcase that this upcoming week. So you know,
Speaker 13: I just think that with all the Two Song fans
Speaker 13: that do come out and support, is a great atmosphere
Speaker 13: for kids and families and anybody. So you know, I've
Speaker 13: really recommend it to you come out and watch a game.
Speaker 2: How many people do you have going to see you?
Speaker 14: I got I got, let's see, I got I got
Speaker 14: my two sons.
Speaker 13: I have an eighteen month old son and a ten
Speaker 13: week old boy, and then I have my wife and
Speaker 13: then my mom and then my grandpa and my brother.
Speaker 5: So about six seven years.
Speaker 2: That's so nice, little contingent. So let me tell you
Speaker 2: when you played baseball? What position did you play?
Speaker 5: Man? You know, I've it's like every sport.
Speaker 13: I played baseball, basketball, and football. I've been an athlete,
Speaker 13: but baseball, I would pitch. I would play center field
Speaker 13: and play shortstop.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Yeah, so you had some you obviously, that's
Speaker 2: where the tough position. Center you arrange cover a lot
Speaker 2: of ground and the shortstop is like you know, you
Speaker 2: got to cover a lot of ground. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you, Drew, thank you for your time. Good luck
Speaker 2: you get well, and then we'll see you maybe next
Speaker 2: weekend on the field.
Speaker 14: Yes, sir, I appreciate it, Steve, thanks.
Speaker 2: For having me be well.
Speaker 5: Man, Take care, all right, take care.
Speaker 2: Drew Dixon from the Sugar Skulls formerly of u A
Speaker 2: and then the South Carolina Limestones righting Stone University. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to wy in the ball. Here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver.
Speaker 2: We've got Henry atte the controls. We take a caller
Speaker 2: to five to two zero four one six seventy four forty.
Speaker 2: Let us know what's up to day. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to Drew Dixon, twenty six years old, life ahead of him, wife,
Speaker 2: two kid, kids. Yeah, it's interesting story.
Speaker 3: I mean, kind of lost track of what he had
Speaker 3: done and turns out he's in New Zealand and you know,
Speaker 3: gets married and has a couple of kids and comes
Speaker 3: back and now he's involved in the Sugar Skulls. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get out to a game. I know, I
Speaker 3: feel bad. I you know, I see the signs, I
Speaker 3: see the advertiser. They just haven't had a chance. I've
Speaker 3: been to a couple.
Speaker 2: The closer you are to the field, the better it is,
Speaker 2: or a better feel you get, because it's crazy. It's
Speaker 2: like car crashes, dire we play. Yeah, if you're higher
Speaker 2: up at the music stuff, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: But you're closer you can say, oh crap, what they
Speaker 2: do and the quality of play is pretty good. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can tell these guys that actually played yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: we got a call. Hell yeh, hearing on the ball.
Speaker 2: Who's this?
Speaker 12: It's Rick?
Speaker 5: How you doing, Buddy, David?
Speaker 12: I heard you speaking earlier about the interviews. Secure Sanders
Speaker 12: had a different and I couldn't help. But going back
Speaker 12: to the Johnny Manziel draft, and I don't know if
Speaker 12: you remember that at all, but of course he was
Speaker 12: taken I think number one by the Browns, which irritated
Speaker 12: me because I'm an old Browns fan.
Speaker 5: But he had that.
Speaker 12: Same Manziel had that same I won't say just continess,
Speaker 12: but that same elevated sense of worse right right, and
Speaker 12: and it just and you know, you just if you're
Speaker 12: an employer, which you know has been referenced many times
Speaker 12: during this draft, these are employees you don't want somebody
Speaker 12: that thinks they're more important than the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the operation, right, no question, no question.
Speaker 12: And I think this is a great message for young
Speaker 12: men and women who choose to elevate themselves in athletics
Speaker 12: or any part of their lives, because none of us
Speaker 12: are more important than the bigger pictures.
Speaker 2: So you're right.
Speaker 12: I hope that message gets conveyed much more because you know,
Speaker 12: I've heard other people that are a little closer to
Speaker 12: him speak to the He's a decent guy, he's just
Speaker 12: you know, they spoke well of him. But it's the
Speaker 12: public persona that that leaves people with that last impression.
Speaker 2: Of a couple of times because have youer? Have youer
Speaker 2: sent me a note?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 2: New Heisel. New Heisl said this morning on a serious
Speaker 2: XEM show that he heard from an NFL coach that
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders accepted a FaceTime uh meeting from someone during
Speaker 2: the interview with another with another NFL guy and stayed
Speaker 2: on the on the phone the phone on the FaceTime,
Speaker 2: so you know, he was having one conversation and got
Speaker 2: FaceTime and then decided just that was more important.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and and again that's that's not going to bode
Speaker 12: well for him professionally, you know, and he's already made
Speaker 12: a ton of money, I mean, got good for him.
Speaker 12: But it's sad because it the youth are very influenced
Speaker 12: by some of these personalities, and I would hope that
Speaker 12: they would look to some of the other athletes that
Speaker 12: were that were drafted before him and follow that model
Speaker 12: versus this. I call it the Johnny men the Ell syndrome. Yeah,
Speaker 12: where he's bigger than the than the opportunity in front
Speaker 12: of him.
Speaker 2: So here's here's something real quick to both of you
Speaker 2: and Dave. Don't you think that now that they're getting paid,
Speaker 2: not just a little a lot, that that inflates their
Speaker 2: egos one and their self self importance. Oh?
Speaker 12: Absolutely. And you know, I was had lunch with guys
Speaker 12: I went to high school with, and we were laughing
Speaker 12: about Ken Giavanda. I don't know if any of you
Speaker 12: remember who he was, but he coached at South Point
Speaker 12: in the early seventies and then he went up to
Speaker 12: I wanna's h one of the colleges up in the
Speaker 12: Phoenix area, Junior College is up there, and coached for
Speaker 12: many years. And we are all laughing. Can you imagine,
Speaker 12: imagine having one of these guys play for Ken. I mean,
Speaker 12: Ken would have run him right out of the damn
Speaker 12: stadium if they had, and probably with broken legs to
Speaker 12: boot he just you know, coaches back in those days
Speaker 12: just didn't even you couldn't sieves of insulting your teammates
Speaker 12: or your school or anybody else with an attitude like that.
Speaker 12: And it's unfortunately, it's more prevalent than we think it is.
Speaker 12: And that's that's the scarier part of this generation of
Speaker 12: nil and everything else.
Speaker 2: Well in general too. I mean it's it's a job interview.
Speaker 3: You know, you're you're trying to impress an employer and
Speaker 3: to go in there and you know, double FaceTime somebody
Speaker 3: or just you know, blow off an interview or treat
Speaker 3: it like it's not important.
Speaker 2: This is not a great sign.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've all been in positions to hire people
Speaker 3: and you know, you want to come off much better
Speaker 3: than that. And so sure, if that's what he's doing,
Speaker 3: I can understand why some gms are like, eh, we
Speaker 3: can find other.
Speaker 2: Players, and all these people talk, they talk to each other.
Speaker 12: Okay, Yeah, I'm just hoping to Browns, don't don't pick
Speaker 12: them up in this third or second or third round
Speaker 12: because as a Browns fan, and they made some serious
Speaker 12: mistakes at quarterback, Johnny Manziel being the pre eminent mistake.
Speaker 12: But Bernie Gozard, when you go back way back when
Speaker 12: he was one of the things they loved a bottom.
Speaker 12: He was a humble guy, and he was all about
Speaker 12: the bigger picture and not about himself and that's what
Speaker 12: made him such a fan favorite in Cleveland for all
Speaker 12: those years. And so I'll leave it there, gentlemen, have
Speaker 12: a great weekend. Cool.
Speaker 2: You might have to pick a different team if you
Speaker 2: want to have a better life in the NFL, say just.
Speaker 12: Saying, yeah, Mike, Browns haven't won since they beat the
Speaker 12: Baltimore Colts in nineteen sixty three, and they're one.
Speaker 14: Of two teams.
Speaker 12: They're one of two teams and the Detroit Lions is
Speaker 12: my other team, and neither one of them have been
Speaker 12: to the Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Right, man, you might just stop watching the NFL.
Speaker 12: It's like watching the Cubs for all these years. But
Speaker 12: at least the Cubs finally won one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, Rick.
Speaker 12: Be Well.
Speaker 2: Guys, So, Henry, you're a young man, you're going to
Speaker 2: get out here in the real world. They're pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Do the athletes today, I know you follow a lot
Speaker 2: of these things. Athletes up today, these standers and those guys,
Speaker 2: do they influence on how you look at things?
Speaker 13: Not really.
Speaker 4: I just think it's how the new generation is.
Speaker 2: And tell me what do you think how they are?
Speaker 4: I think they're a little I wouldn't say COCKI you're
Speaker 4: just more I don't know. They kind of don't structure.
Speaker 4: The structure is kind of different than what it used
Speaker 4: to be, so they kind of do things not a
Speaker 4: certain way that it used to be.
Speaker 2: It's not a smooth not everybody though, No, no, of course.
Speaker 2: And this I said this in the show. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if with you, Dave or whatever. It asked
Speaker 2: me all the time people ask me, what's the difference
Speaker 2: between a good player, like a nice player, well thought
Speaker 2: of player and one of those pain of the ask
Speaker 2: players their parents how they brought them up. And I
Speaker 2: say that without a question, if you have those good
Speaker 2: people telling you what's right and what's wrong, and do
Speaker 2: this do that they're good people like Luke Luke Walton.
Speaker 2: That comes to mind, Chanting Fry. Some of these guys
Speaker 2: and the other ones were paying the next but they
Speaker 2: were good paying the next those guys. And I've said
Speaker 2: this to I said this to Bill, I said this
Speaker 2: to Susie Walton. I said, you guys did, and they
Speaker 2: had a bunch of boys, right, what you guys did
Speaker 2: fantastic raising your boys, because they didn't they were the Waltons.
Speaker 2: You'd think they'd have this ego right, this thing. They
Speaker 2: were just normal dudes. They were just normal dudes. Walton
Speaker 2: drove that ugly beat up convertible rode into bikes every
Speaker 2: now and again. You know what I'm saying. These guys
Speaker 2: were just kind of normal dudes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think family definitely has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 3: And you know, we were not here in position to
Speaker 3: really criticize, you know, how these guys are brought up.
Speaker 3: But sometimes that's the reason, you know, things weren't true
Speaker 3: stable at home.
Speaker 2: And isn't that the way that is in the world anyway? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so, just you know, he's got a good parents,
Speaker 2: he's probably good kid.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you were watching last night during the draft,
Speaker 3: I mean almost every if you're watching the ESPN broadcast,
Speaker 3: they're basically in the green room and almost everybody had
Speaker 3: some type of family there, whether it was mom, dad, grandma, brothers, sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know most of them did. So that was
Speaker 2: that was good to see. And this is life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean these guys are between what twenty and twenty
Speaker 2: three years old, and you know, it's the biggest thing
Speaker 2: that's ever going to happen to them most likely, and
Speaker 2: their parents are kept saying how grateful they were and
Speaker 2: how proud they were, and I mean that was that
Speaker 2: was one of the big words I heard last night,
Speaker 2: was proud. They were proud of their son for doing
Speaker 2: what they did to get to this level. Would you
Speaker 2: see the t mac family interview, Yeah, that was the same,
Speaker 2: his mom crying, Yeah, and just how humble they were
Speaker 2: and come from a little beginnings or whatever and now
Speaker 2: he's this yeah, and yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 3: It's going to be he's going to a totally different
Speaker 3: part of the world and part of the country in Carolina,
Speaker 3: and how you know they're going to react to him.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's playing with a quarterback who won
Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy a couple of years ago, So that's
Speaker 3: gonna be an interesting combo. But it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: big culture move for him, coming from California to Arizona,
Speaker 3: now to Carolina, Charlotte.
Speaker 2: He's going to be making a lot of money. I
Speaker 2: think he'll be perfectly Yes, yes, good another call, thank you? Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air, Andine on the ball? Who's this?
Speaker 5: I stay with? Jim?
Speaker 2: Jim? What's the word?
Speaker 14: Well, this whole college, pro high school athletics city is
Speaker 14: starting to look like an eight foot tall jingle puzzle.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm tell me.
Speaker 5: And the winds about ready to blow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in a good way.
Speaker 5: Obviously, that wouldn't be good for a jingle puzzle.
Speaker 2: So tell me what do you think? How will the
Speaker 2: pieces fall on the ground?
Speaker 5: But I think that.
Speaker 14: I think there's a real big problem brewing that nobody's
Speaker 14: got their finger on you, And I'm not sure I do,
Speaker 14: but I think it's I think it's going.
Speaker 5: To come from the fans, and I.
Speaker 14: Think it's gonna have a bearing on you know, just.
Speaker 5: Think about where would kids.
Speaker 17: Get arrogance an attitude? Where would they get that.
Speaker 5: In these in these times?
Speaker 2: TV, social media? Money?
Speaker 14: Nah, I get there's probably two or three other places.
Speaker 2: What what did you have a couple of ideas well.
Speaker 5: The constant blast.
Speaker 17: On the news is politics. Oh, I see, that's all
Speaker 17: about lack of all three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 17: No matter which side of you approach it from there,
Speaker 17: you know, people pointing fingers at everybody, and they're all
Speaker 17: better than these people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you. I get you. That's a good point.
Speaker 14: That's twenty four.
Speaker 5: Hours a day if you want to listen to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 5: All right, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: We have a couple more could be that could be
Speaker 3: an interest. See, you know theory, look at me, look
Speaker 3: at me, look at me. Yeah, I'm not sure, but
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't see that so much in
Speaker 3: sports personally, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, maybe because you know, when we
Speaker 2: see touchdowns and we see these things, you know, dancing
Speaker 2: in the ends or whatever. I'm not sure that I
Speaker 2: was gonna do with politics. No, no, no, But but
Speaker 2: I understand this point of look at me, look at me,
Speaker 2: look at me being loud.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we live in a weird time. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure back in the sixties it was even weirder seventies.
Speaker 2: Every every generation has they're weird, right, yeah, and everybody
Speaker 2: says not, God can't get any worse than it does.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, we just have to come back,
Speaker 3: you know, fifty years or so into the sixties to
Speaker 3: see how athletes were portrayed and what they were doing,
Speaker 3: and some were sticking out more than others and talking
Speaker 3: much more than others. Nowadays, they don't even do that. Nowadays,
Speaker 3: it's you know, more personal. But this this was like
Speaker 3: a whole you know, generation of athletes who are trying
Speaker 3: to lead the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, we had about a minute. Yep, Henry,
Speaker 2: can't we talk more about that? Not just kidding? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I tried to avoid.
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I grew up. You know, in
Speaker 3: those years it was a big like like ten, watching
Speaker 3: the Mexico City Olympics and watching these guys protesting.
Speaker 2: Sure, what's going on that? That was a different way
Speaker 2: to get attention than that athletes do now. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: there was sixty eight, right, Yeah, seventy two was the
Speaker 2: shooting or the Munich Munich, Munich. We just remember Rascal
Speaker 2: in Moscow. Yeah, so every time, every generation has its
Speaker 2: own every few years, yeah, his own issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean most of the guys last night other
Speaker 3: than you know, here I am this, you know older,
Speaker 3: I'm older than them. Just looking at their clothes that
Speaker 3: was cool to watch. Yeah, they were dressed. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I'm sitting there, which is like, oh my, look
Speaker 3: at that. App look at that. I mean that was
Speaker 3: more of the expression. That was fine. Iways see that
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 2: So what did you think about the introduction with plenty Matthews?
Speaker 2: That was funny. That was funny, but a lot of people,
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Sure they're mad, but you know, he's got a big
Speaker 3: mouth and he's always been that way.
Speaker 2: I think he has a podcast, he's on the air,
Speaker 2: so it's like, give a hot mic to some crazy guys,
Speaker 2: you know, you can against them. What is he going
Speaker 2: to say? Oh god? Yeah, okay, yeah, So it was funny,
Speaker 2: but it was not taken completely in a good way.
Speaker 2: Well if you're a bearrass man, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: And also I got a message from President Trump blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Oh I know, I was worried.
Speaker 12: What is he?
Speaker 2: I said? I was scared of right, right, Okay, let's
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