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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Yets Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the

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<v Speaker 2>Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera

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<v Speaker 2>in with me. The day is Dave Silver and my

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<v Speaker 2>boy Henry. How are you gonna doing? Doing good? Good

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<v Speaker 2>to be here on a Friday going into the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>last day of the week, should it? It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>good week, Dave, we were part of that on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>came in, Yeah, talked to uh I think the garment

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<v Speaker 2>people right Tuesdayesday, the marathon. Yeah, we've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good guess this week. Yesterday's show was pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good Kendrea and John Fina. Today, I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have another good show. We love to talk about too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Henry will have a lot of breaking news

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<v Speaker 2>and last night's last night's draft games coming up? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you obey otherwise right? NBA?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, there's a lot of a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 3>on this time of year, for sure, but the drafts

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<v Speaker 3>still going on with the next couple of rounds today

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<v Speaker 3>got through the first one with of course the big

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<v Speaker 3>news from the U of a side with TAC going

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<v Speaker 3>to Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was I was sitting at some place and

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<v Speaker 2>had him turn the TV onto it. As they turned

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<v Speaker 2>it on, it was he was going. He was going

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<v Speaker 2>at eight because it was varying reports, right, you could

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<v Speaker 2>go high or you could go in the twenties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously he won eight. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think that was about as good as

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<v Speaker 3>we could expect it based on the numbers and people

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<v Speaker 3>we've been heard about and some of the other projections

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<v Speaker 3>had him, like you said, in the twenties. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the reaction has been kind of mixed. People are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some people said, yeah, he was the best receiver

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<v Speaker 3>available and Carolina made a good choice, and others are like,

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<v Speaker 3>well maybe maybe not, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well some people were questioning his attitude or his commitment

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever they were questioning. McShee was talking about who

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<v Speaker 2>he had talked to a source sort of give him

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<v Speaker 2>some bad words. Then later in the night last night

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Jed talking about him and saying he was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, who do you believe in?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think a lot of that is part of

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<v Speaker 3>playing the game of you know, trying to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make him look bad before the draft for other teams,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, spreading the word and hey, well we'll

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<v Speaker 3>say that, well some things publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's kind of been the word

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<v Speaker 3>today about Shador Sanders, is that some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>has been said publicly about him, and that's just other

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<v Speaker 3>people are knocking him and you know, make them look bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go there, Henry, I want you to get

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<v Speaker 2>involved with this. So why do you think that Shador

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<v Speaker 2>did not get picked in the first round? Hey, and

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<v Speaker 2>if this is the worst thing that happened to Shador,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>You want me to talk start, Yeah, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a talent evaluators, so I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things I heard today was it. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess he and cam Ward had been training together and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes the scouts. Scouts would be out there and they'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like so obvious that cam Ward was better than him,

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<v Speaker 3>stronger arm, bigger, able to run better. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 3>are those kinds of things I heard. Again, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't there, but that's those are some of the

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<v Speaker 3>messages that we're getting. There's obviously the Dion factor, I

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<v Speaker 3>think is going to play and it's good, and what

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<v Speaker 3>say you know that he's he's a big personality and

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<v Speaker 3>other player's fathers sometimes can get in the way and.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, yes, so that you're thinking that may have

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<v Speaker 2>got him out of or had him fall out of

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<v Speaker 2>the first round. No matter who deals with him, second, third,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth round, is going to deal with that. If that's true, right, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>then why would you even want him? I mean, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>put up with a bunch of crap for a good player.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not sure if that plays a part. But

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<v Speaker 2>I like the the thought on it, because yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>come as a package. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we saw the ball fan was Lamal LaMelo, their

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<v Speaker 3>dad whatever his name was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a different the dude that's just crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't play. I mean that's true. You know he's

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<v Speaker 2>so dad trying to pump up his sons. Henry, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of it was kind of what

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<v Speaker 4>Dave said about the big personality, But I also think

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a lot of teams don't need a quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>as badly as people see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one I think today I was coming Ribs

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<v Speaker 2>one in the first round. Yeah, we were talking now

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<v Speaker 2>or some of the guys an analysis was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty third pick and the fortieth pick that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the next wave here because after that nobody needs a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where maybe Cleveland comes into play. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>talk last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there going to get him that Cleveland makes all

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<v Speaker 3>these all these deals early on? But that didn't that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work out that way. So yeah, last year, what

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<v Speaker 3>six in the first round? This year too, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were saying all along, this wasn't a great quarterback class

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<v Speaker 3>obviously compared to the last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't watch him enough to know that he

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<v Speaker 2>was good or bad. I just you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>the son of DM Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he comes into a program that was horrible

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<v Speaker 3>and they basically got him to be pretty respectable. They

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<v Speaker 3>had no defense and basically had no offensive line. It

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like, so every game was basically you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 3>to forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So one of the things, and I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know we talked about this with oh Rhino yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you got these calls for basketball

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<v Speaker 2>when when the draft was happening, But I got a

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<v Speaker 2>number of calls when I covered it day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how's how these guys doing in public? In

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<v Speaker 2>the public? Did you hear anything off the off the court?

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<v Speaker 2>How were they with you dealing with you? BD wise?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have to answer some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't remember that ever happening. That you would

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<v Speaker 3>get calls from other newspaper people.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, No, from NBA teams, actual teams now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I never did. Yeah, the reps or the you know, scouts,

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<v Speaker 2>how is he in this situation? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mostly it was about you know, the two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and one guys, you know, Gilbert and Richard and

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<v Speaker 2>Luke and people like that. Never had issues with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They spoke freely, of course, and Loot allowed it, which

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<v Speaker 2>was great. But no, never any issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't ever recall anyone from the pros ever reaching

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<v Speaker 3>out to us. I think it seemed like they were

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<v Speaker 3>mostly relying on what they would see in the media,

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<v Speaker 3>and they could probably base it on just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>seeing stories and seeing who was interviewed. Are they are

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<v Speaker 3>they out there publicly? You know, will they be will

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<v Speaker 3>they be comfortable doing that? You know with the professionals.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the things I think too that involved

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<v Speaker 2>Shador was more of his uh his not body language,

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<v Speaker 2>but his attitude were my poop doesn't stink kind of thing?

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<v Speaker 5>I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he come off that way?

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<v Speaker 3>I heard those stories too that his interviews were not good,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that's I guess you hear that from

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<v Speaker 3>the combine or whenever those interviews are done with teams.

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<v Speaker 3>But apparently didn't grade out too well there either, So

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<v Speaker 3>that could be another issue. And somewhat much of it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a it's gonna be a big pr move.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoever takes them, it's gonna be big news, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He basically as soon as cam Ward was drafted, that

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<v Speaker 3>was like we barely heard about.

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<v Speaker 2>Him all night long last night. It was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>is the dog gonna get picked? Yeah? Well do they

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<v Speaker 2>still take the wonder? I'm not sure. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>because we have I haven't heard much of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just remembering that's what they used to do, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And then you'd hear some oh this guy failed that thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take a left it out crickie, where you

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<v Speaker 2>go stupid questions? Right? Uh? So, I probably they don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that anymore. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but again, there were some there were

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<v Speaker 3>some stories about him not doing well with the interview

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<v Speaker 3>and not handling himself, you know, like he didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>He was talking to general managers of these teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well he's already made millions yeah on his I L

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<v Speaker 2>L right, yeah, you know, and then flashing the watches

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, treating people whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, they kept cutting to them during the broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I was switching back and forth between

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL and ESPN broadcasts, and uh, you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>cut into him at the house, showing him standing there

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<v Speaker 3>like watching TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And just where were they at Texas? Oh okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>they were somewhere else. There was somewhere else and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like a Dion's house, yeah, okay or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they weren't in Colorado, they weren't in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was just about everybody else that was in

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay got picked, except I guess the Alabama quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>showed up and no one really Jaden Milroe. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no one really and projected to go in the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was there anyway, Okay, was he in the

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<v Speaker 3>room the green room, were out on the stands.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was in the room, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>some people just go and sit in the stands, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>happened to be there. Yeah, they introduced him.

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<v Speaker 3>They did like a runway shot at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the night where they all you know, all the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that were invited, I guess, were there, and he was there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on that on that stage. Yeah. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>doing that with Mike Bibby when he was picked number

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<v Speaker 2>two and two ninety eight. Uh, the O'Neill kid, the

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<v Speaker 2>youngster germano news German, and he went and fell and

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<v Speaker 2>fell and really and he was sitting there just waiting

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<v Speaker 2>and waiting to be picked back in those days. And

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<v Speaker 2>he turned out to be a pretty good player. Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>happened to Michael olo Kandi. Oh yeah, Well I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>that column that night before knowing that in Vancouver, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that they were going to pick uh, they weren't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pick Bibby, which made no sense. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Clippers being the Clippers, because they went and in

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<v Speaker 2>the GM at the time, I can't remember his name.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you can't teach hyde. Yeah, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>teach winning either, you know, and that's what Bibby did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was bad. I remember.

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<v Speaker 5>Just that.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that night. Just as soon as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the.

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<v Speaker 3>First pick in the draft is Michael, everybody just starts cheering.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, where do you play?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why these these drafts are crap shooting. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll see what happens. What time does that start, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be doing this show. Okay, so he'll keep us

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<v Speaker 2>at three seventeen, former U of A football player slash

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<v Speaker 2>Limestone College? Do we see where that was at South Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, So he'll be on the show. He's now

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<v Speaker 2>with the Sugar Skulls, you know, obviously the indoor league

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<v Speaker 2>then at four seventeen, I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna have him on going to the next

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<v Speaker 2>they're done very well. We'll talk about his time there

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<v Speaker 2>this year and he just continues to win.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean men's tennis never really been much of a

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<v Speaker 2>no disrespect to all the other ones, that Clancy Shields

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't happen by accident. He's done unbelievably. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's good to see moving into a

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I don't know. Okay, let's take a break, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to in the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>is Dave Silver Now on the phone. We have Drew

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<v Speaker 2>Dixon former you a wide receiver now with the Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>Schools and Drew, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 13>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine. Hey, thanks for joining us. A nice

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<v Speaker 2>little move you've made recently, right joining the Sugar Schools.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, so good.

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<v Speaker 13>It's a great opportunity and you know, I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 3>Feel good to be back in your hometown area as

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<v Speaker 3>well to play some football.

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<v Speaker 13>Absolutely absolutely being able to play from of the Tucson

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<v Speaker 2>Did you leave? What was your situation before you signed

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<v Speaker 14>So, before sign of the Sugar Schools, I had actually

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<v Speaker 13>was kind of in free agency for a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, no, kind of full circle, right, you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>all these things here. You must be about twenty five ish,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six? Uh twenty six yeah, twenty six okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>still young? Do you hope to this might be a

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<v Speaker 2>that you're still capable and maybe you get another shot

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<v Speaker 13>in shape and staying ready for an opportunity to go to.

425
00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:28.880
<v Speaker 5>A higher league.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Had you ever played indoor football before this?

427
00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:35.599
<v Speaker 5>No, this is my first season indoor So what's what's happened?

428
00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just you know, switching to almost a different

429
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<v Speaker 2>sport in a way.

430
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I mean it's real different. You know, it's similar

431
00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.759
<v Speaker 13>to the CFL. I guess with the high motions and stuff.

432
00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:49.240
<v Speaker 13>But you know, the field is fifty yards long and

433
00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.920
<v Speaker 13>twenty eight yards wide, so and then it's indoor. It's

434
00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.920
<v Speaker 13>just a totally different game with angles and.

435
00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:57.240
<v Speaker 5>And just spacing on the field.

436
00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.519
<v Speaker 13>He only got sixteen people on the field at the

437
00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.160
<v Speaker 13>time time, so you know, it's just a fast paced,

438
00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:04.640
<v Speaker 13>different game for sure.

439
00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So you've only been around for like a couple of games.

440
00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:12.319
<v Speaker 13>Right, yes, so this will be our third game. But

441
00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:14.880
<v Speaker 13>this week, I actually I came down with the cold.

442
00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.920
<v Speaker 13>I was battling a cold last game, so I'm actually

443
00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.400
<v Speaker 13>gonna be sitting out of this game, so I don't

444
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.160
<v Speaker 13>get the team just so I don't get the team sick.

445
00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes sense. I think your skills is what

446
00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:25.279
<v Speaker 2>when's your next game this.

447
00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.359
<v Speaker 5>Weekend on Sunday, yep in San Diego.

448
00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's why. That's what I had read. Okay,

449
00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:32.359
<v Speaker 2>no cool, No, good for you. Good for you to

450
00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:34.640
<v Speaker 2>get to sit out and then get recovered here in

451
00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:37.319
<v Speaker 2>a second. Uh so, so, how has it been it

452
00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.440
<v Speaker 2>just being with the team and new group of guys.

453
00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Things like that.

454
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<v Speaker 13>Man, just from hearing about the past of the Sugar Skulls,

455
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.920
<v Speaker 13>they haven't been. They weren't doing well previously the past

456
00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.039
<v Speaker 13>two seasons. But with the group of guys that we got,

457
00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.839
<v Speaker 13>I mean it's you know, a coach says it's different,

458
00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:56.039
<v Speaker 13>but you can just feel that it's different. You know,

459
00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:58.640
<v Speaker 13>everybody is focused on details and we.

460
00:20:58.559 --> 00:20:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Want to win games.

461
00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.640
<v Speaker 13>You know, the end of the day, it's called a

462
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.279
<v Speaker 13>business trip for the kids that are out of town

463
00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:05.720
<v Speaker 13>coming here to Tson to play. But you know, we

464
00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:09.359
<v Speaker 13>got five four or five months to to buckle down

465
00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:13.480
<v Speaker 13>and and practice and and win games and and helps of.

466
00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Playing in the championship.

467
00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Are most of the guys, you know, former college players

468
00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.079
<v Speaker 3>that you know are hoping maybe for you know, another

469
00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.880
<v Speaker 3>shot at the big time or what's the goal of most.

470
00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Of the teammates.

471
00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we got a rookies on the team, so

472
00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:29.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of them.

473
00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.640
<v Speaker 13>Are first out of college as well, so you know,

474
00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.200
<v Speaker 13>coming to play and indoor football, you know, it's.

475
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:36.559
<v Speaker 5>Just that it's a it's a step to go to.

476
00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:37.519
<v Speaker 2>A higher league for sure.

477
00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:42.079
<v Speaker 13>So you know, coming here and winning games and dominating

478
00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:46.200
<v Speaker 13>this uh this league, you know, definitely is the goal

479
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:49.039
<v Speaker 13>to help us get back into those higher leagues or

480
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.279
<v Speaker 13>get a first opportunity into those higher leagues for some.

481
00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Did you know any of the guys before you got

482
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:55.880
<v Speaker 2>back on the roster, Did you play against any of them?

483
00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.559
<v Speaker 13>I actually have not a lot of them are from

484
00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.519
<v Speaker 13>the East Coat, so it was my first time meeting

485
00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:05.799
<v Speaker 13>a lot of the kids. But yeah, I didn't know

486
00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:06.799
<v Speaker 13>anybody previously.

487
00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>You've had You've had a pretty nice career, kind of

488
00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like a movement career. You came here Ata Sabino, right, Yes, sir,

489
00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:19.200
<v Speaker 2>How would you describe your career because it's been under

490
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>a few coaches too.

491
00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:23.920
<v Speaker 13>Man, Yeah, it's been a journey, you know, it's been

492
00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 13>It's definitely been a journey of oh, you know, just perseverance.

493
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:32.039
<v Speaker 13>You know, I've been I played with rich Rod my

494
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.480
<v Speaker 13>first season, which was my red shirt season, so I

495
00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.920
<v Speaker 13>wasn't on the field that year. But you know, after

496
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 13>he got fired, you know, it was a big change

497
00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.079
<v Speaker 13>for the Arizona fans and the players as well. But

498
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.000
<v Speaker 13>when someone came, you know, we had high hopes and

499
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 13>you know, the it was looking like a new era

500
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:49.920
<v Speaker 13>and everything was looking good. But then you know, the

501
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.960
<v Speaker 13>Tusk community knows that we went nine and twenty within

502
00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.039
<v Speaker 13>those three seasons, so it was a real tough time,

503
00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.839
<v Speaker 13>you know, just making sure to stay believing in yourself,

504
00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:02.519
<v Speaker 13>believing in the product.

505
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:02.559
<v Speaker 2>That you have.

506
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:06.759
<v Speaker 13>But you know, it was just a real, real season

507
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 13>of determination, you know, even though you're losing, but just

508
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:12.960
<v Speaker 13>still believing in the craft that God has blessed me with,

509
00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.799
<v Speaker 13>you know, and then even just being able to go

510
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 13>to a smaller school in South Carolina from Arizona, taking

511
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.200
<v Speaker 13>that leap of faith, and then still being able to

512
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 13>get the opportunity of going to the NFL and then

513
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.759
<v Speaker 13>not getting on a roster. It was like, you know,

514
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 13>it's a lot, especially having a wife and kids. It's like, man,

515
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:38.680
<v Speaker 13>you know, the game is, it's not guaranteed. So you know,

516
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.880
<v Speaker 13>when you gets those positions, it's really just lies down

517
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:43.839
<v Speaker 13>to your foundation of you know, what do you do

518
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.440
<v Speaker 13>you believe in yourself or do you believe.

519
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.680
<v Speaker 14>In the talents that God has given you? And just

520
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:50.119
<v Speaker 14>really trusting the process.

521
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 13>You know, it's been a real process for me to

522
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.000
<v Speaker 13>just stay patient and wait for my opportunities to arise.

523
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.000
<v Speaker 13>And you know, I have you know, gotten opportunities, and

524
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 13>you know, I'm blessed to be able to say that

525
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 13>I'm still chasing the dream.

526
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Are you still back and forth between quarterback and receiver

527
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 3>and which one do you prefer nowadays?

528
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.279
<v Speaker 13>So, you know, coming with the Sugar Skulls, you know,

529
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 13>our first two games, we had a real problem with

530
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 13>the quarterback position. So when coach Beck had signed me,

531
00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 13>you know, it's been viable option to play receiver or quarterback.

532
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 13>So right now, you know, I have been practicing at

533
00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.160
<v Speaker 13>both positions, and it feels great to play quarterback again

534
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 13>and play my original position. But you know, right now,

535
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 13>I'm like, it's coach wherever coach needs me. You know,

536
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 13>I'm happy to play receiver or quarterback, just as I've

537
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 13>had experience now as a receiver. You know, I feel

538
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 13>I feel blessed to play quarterback or receiver. How you know,

539
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.200
<v Speaker 13>it's always fun playing quarterback.

540
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, how was it when they moved

541
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 2>you after playing quarterback all the time?

542
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 14>Man? Yeah, it was a it was a it was

543
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 14>a business move, you know. You know, I just had

544
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 14>to trust my coaches and trust my mentors that it

545
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 14>was a good transition for me to give me opportunity

546
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:07.680
<v Speaker 14>to get to the NFL. And I did get an

547
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 14>opportunity at receiver, so you know, it was a lot

548
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 14>of learning at first, just getting comfortable actually being coached

549
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 14>and practicing.

550
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 5>At that position.

551
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 13>But you know, it's always good to see, you know,

552
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 13>just production in your craft as you just continue to work.

553
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Did you so and so after your time in with

554
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Limestone in South Carolina, did you is Tucson home? Was

555
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Tucson home all the time?

556
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:35.680
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

557
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 13>Well, I was in New Zealand actually for about a

558
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 13>month and a half after my season at Limestone in

559
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 13>South Carolina because I had my wife and I had

560
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 13>my first son at the time, So living out in

561
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 13>New Zealand, and once my agent kind of you know,

562
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 13>gave me a path to get ready for the draft.

563
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 13>I actually had came back to Tucson during time. That

564
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 13>was last January, and so just from last January to now,

565
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 13>I had stayed home. You know, I came home and

566
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 13>once I went with Green Bay, you know, we're kind

567
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 13>of just like where whatever opportunity I have will move there.

568
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, two sons been home for the past year. Yeah.

569
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 3>What about were you training in New Zealand as well

570
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 3>as starting a family? Are you playing any sports?

571
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.440
<v Speaker 13>Uh well, I was just just training for football, just

572
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 13>getting ready for the draft and just staying healthy and

573
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 13>you know.

574
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 5>Just continue to perfede my craft.

575
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:38.240
<v Speaker 13>But you know, I was staying active and training to

576
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 13>get ready for the league.

577
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Like no rugby or anything like that.

578
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 13>I you know, I didn't, but actually did get an

579
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 13>opportunity with the u n r L, which is the

580
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 13>National Rugby League. Well I didn't pursue that, but you know,

581
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 13>it's kind of just it's always there if I want to,

582
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 13>you know, play rugby, but I didn't end up playing.

583
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you, what did you get your

584
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 2>degree in one and two? I'm sure you start party

585
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>already thinking about the future of giving you have the family,

586
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>what do you want to do when this.

587
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 5>Is all done?

588
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 13>So I got my degree in business administration with a

589
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 13>minor and leadership.

590
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 14>You know, I've always wanted to have been interested in

591
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 14>business and just.

592
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 13>Being like a business owner and just being in sales

593
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 13>and stuff. So you know, actually now playing with the.

594
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 14>Sugar skulls, I am in financial services now.

595
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 13>So I'm an executive planner now, and that's kind of

596
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 13>like a field that I want to have as a

597
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 13>foundation as I start opening up different businesses and whatnot.

598
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 13>But you know, being in this field right now is

599
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 13>being an executive planner and helping people put their money

600
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 13>in the right places and setting up business owners to

601
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 13>you know, scale.

602
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 5>Or just be successful.

603
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 13>You know, that's something that I'm really, I'm really liking

604
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 13>right now.

605
00:27:58.839 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

606
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Did you graduate from Arizona? Did you get a degree

607
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 3>here or for the other from Limestone?

608
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I gotta.

609
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:08.440
<v Speaker 13>I got a degree from Arizona and from Limestone, both

610
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 13>in business administration.

611
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Cool. We were talking I guess maybe yesterday, the

612
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>day before, I don't know it was day or not,

613
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>but talking about some of the all time best players

614
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to come out of Tucson. Obviously you're you're on that

615
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>list at some point somewhere in that list. Who are

616
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>some of the better players you faced in your time

617
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and maybe some of the people that you saw growing up.

618
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 13>I mean, you know, playing with Jamari Joiner and Stanley berry.

619
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:35.359
<v Speaker 12>Hill, like those are.

620
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 14>Two other Tucson products that are real good.

621
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 13>And Jamar is my real close friend and so but

622
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 13>obviously and then you got you know, b John Robertson

623
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 13>around the same age, about two years younger than me.

624
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 13>You know, those those three.

625
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 14>People are some people that I just, you know, really

626
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 14>admire playing with.

627
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 13>And being able to see them grow in Tucson and

628
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 13>become great products. You know, that's been really good. And

629
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:05.319
<v Speaker 13>obviously my freshman year, Cam Denton was one of those

630
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 13>names too, you know, just a two soon great and yeah,

631
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 13>just a couple of names.

632
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you grow up playing like youth football? Here a

633
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Pop Warner?

634
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so I actually started out playing basketball and baseball.

635
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 13>So for the longest time growing up, I was always

636
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 13>you know, wanted to be a Major League baseball player.

637
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 13>And then you know, obviously all my friends start playing

638
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 13>Pop Warner going to grade school, and then my mom

639
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<v Speaker 13>finally let me play when I was about eleven or twelve.

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<v Speaker 13>So once I started playing at eleven or twelve, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>football really just stole my heart and I just really

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<v Speaker 13>fell in love with football.

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<v Speaker 3>What other schools were looking at you as you were

644
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<v Speaker 3>coming out of Sabino.

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<v Speaker 13>Man, I had a lot of Pac twelve schools at Washington, USC,

646
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<v Speaker 13>Oregon State. I had some smaller schools in California, San Jose,

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<v Speaker 13>had New both in New Mexico's New Mexico State, a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of you know, and so mostly just then.

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<v Speaker 13>And packed twelve schools were really.

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<v Speaker 2>So was it was this maybe too hyperbole. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you signed with you of a was it a completion

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<v Speaker 2>of a dream or you just felt maybe that was

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<v Speaker 2>your best opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 13>Uh, it was really you know, there was a there

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<v Speaker 13>was a few different things way and I you know,

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<v Speaker 13>my my freshman year, my grandma that you know, my mother,

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<v Speaker 13>and my brother and I we moved in with my

659
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<v Speaker 13>grandparents after my parents had got divorced, and you know,

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<v Speaker 13>just growing up in Tucson and going to the Arizona

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<v Speaker 13>games and watching the games with my family. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>my grandma was a real big fan of She always was,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, wanting to see me play for the Arizona Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 13>And my mom had a whole bunch of health issues

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<v Speaker 13>in high school. She had got cancer my senior year.

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<v Speaker 13>But you know, I really was just wanting to stay

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<v Speaker 13>home just with everything that was going on. And you know,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, I had a lot of different OPPORTUNO used

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<v Speaker 13>to play quarterback at some schools and in Arizona. Wanted

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<v Speaker 13>me to switch the receiver, but I just felt that

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<v Speaker 13>I was supposed to stay home and that that was

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<v Speaker 13>the right decision for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was gonna ask you, you're about what three

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<v Speaker 2>years too late? With his nil stuff.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, you know, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 14>great opportunity.

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<v Speaker 13>For kids, you know, just to start building their portfolios

678
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<v Speaker 13>and and and their wealth. But yeah, you know, it

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<v Speaker 13>would have been a great opportunity to uh to get

680
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<v Speaker 13>something like that, but I know that they had just

681
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<v Speaker 13>passed something in court, you know, being able to give

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<v Speaker 13>a little bit of compensation to the players that missed in.

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<v Speaker 13>So I do have an opportunity from there to get

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<v Speaker 13>some get some compensation for that, which would be great.

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<v Speaker 13>But also also playing for the Sugar Skulls, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I am also open now to be able to get name,

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<v Speaker 13>image and likeness deals. So you know there's a different

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<v Speaker 13>couple of sponsorships that I'm looking for and Hucson and

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<v Speaker 13>so that's a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Opportunity for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, it makes sense. I was gonna say too.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have potential clients from you guys.

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<v Speaker 14>Teammates, Absolutely, absolutely, because you know, especially.

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<v Speaker 13>Being in financial services now exactly being able to have

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<v Speaker 13>that knowledge of money, you know, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And they would trust they would trust another UA guy

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<v Speaker 2>or you know somebody who's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, right absolutely, Yeah, Okay, so you guys, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>the road this week, but you're back next Saturday for

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<v Speaker 3>a home game. Can you I've never been to a game.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say this, I have not been to

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<v Speaker 3>a Sugar Skulls. Can you let me know why why

703
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<v Speaker 3>I should come out and watch?

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<v Speaker 14>Man. It's something different that you haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know, it is starting to get hot in

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<v Speaker 13>Tucson and people are looking for things to do, and

707
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<v Speaker 13>it's it's a great opportunity to go watch football indoors.

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<v Speaker 5>And see something that you haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know, we're.

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<v Speaker 14>Playing Arizona Rattlers.

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<v Speaker 13>They we lost to them our first game up in Phoenix,

712
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<v Speaker 13>but they did win the champce being shipped last year.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know we're we're a championship caliber team too.

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<v Speaker 13>And and it's right here in our hometown, Tucson, and

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<v Speaker 13>we can showcase that this upcoming week. So you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I just think that with all the Two Song fans

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<v Speaker 13>that do come out and support, is a great atmosphere

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<v Speaker 13>for kids and families and anybody. So you know, I've

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<v Speaker 13>really recommend it to you come out and watch a game.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people do you have going to see you?

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<v Speaker 14>I got I got, let's see, I got I got

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<v Speaker 14>my two sons.

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<v Speaker 13>I have an eighteen month old son and a ten

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<v Speaker 13>week old boy, and then I have my wife and

725
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<v Speaker 13>then my mom and then my grandpa and my brother.

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<v Speaker 5>So about six seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so nice, little contingent. So let me tell you

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<v Speaker 2>when you played baseball? What position did you play?

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<v Speaker 5>Man? You know, I've it's like every sport.

730
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<v Speaker 13>I played baseball, basketball, and football. I've been an athlete,

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<v Speaker 13>but baseball, I would pitch. I would play center field

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<v Speaker 13>and play shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, Yeah, so you had some you obviously, that's

734
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<v Speaker 2>where the tough position. Center you arrange cover a lot

735
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<v Speaker 2>of ground and the shortstop is like you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to cover a lot of ground. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Drew, thank you for your time. Good luck

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<v Speaker 2>you get well, and then we'll see you maybe next

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<v Speaker 2>weekend on the field.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, sir, I appreciate it, Steve, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>For having me be well.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, Take care, all right, take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Dixon from the Sugar Skulls formerly of u A

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<v Speaker 2>and then the South Carolina Limestones righting Stone University. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll we'll come back and talk more about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to wy in the ball. Here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Henry atte the controls. We take a caller

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<v Speaker 2>to five to two zero four one six seventy four forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know what's up to day. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Drew Dixon, twenty six years old, life ahead of him, wife,

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<v Speaker 2>two kid, kids. Yeah, it's interesting story.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, kind of lost track of what he had

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<v Speaker 3>done and turns out he's in New Zealand and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>gets married and has a couple of kids and comes

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<v Speaker 3>back and now he's involved in the Sugar Skulls. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get out to a game. I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad. I you know, I see the signs, I

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<v Speaker 3>see the advertiser. They just haven't had a chance. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been to a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>The closer you are to the field, the better it is,

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<v Speaker 2>or a better feel you get, because it's crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like car crashes, dire we play. Yeah, if you're higher

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<v Speaker 2>up at the music stuff, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're closer you can say, oh crap, what they

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<v Speaker 2>do and the quality of play is pretty good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell these guys that actually played yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a call. Hell yeh, hearing on the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 12>It's Rick?

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<v Speaker 5>How you doing, Buddy, David?

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<v Speaker 12>I heard you speaking earlier about the interviews. Secure Sanders

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<v Speaker 12>had a different and I couldn't help. But going back

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<v Speaker 12>to the Johnny Manziel draft, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 12>you remember that at all, but of course he was

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<v Speaker 12>taken I think number one by the Browns, which irritated

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<v Speaker 12>me because I'm an old Browns fan.

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<v Speaker 5>But he had that.

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<v Speaker 12>Same Manziel had that same I won't say just continess,

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<v Speaker 12>but that same elevated sense of worse right right, and

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<v Speaker 12>and it just and you know, you just if you're

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<v Speaker 12>an employer, which you know has been referenced many times

850
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 12>during this draft, these are employees you don't want somebody

851
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.119
<v Speaker 12>that thinks they're more important than the rest.

852
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Of the operation, right, no question, no question.

853
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 12>And I think this is a great message for young

854
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 12>men and women who choose to elevate themselves in athletics

855
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 12>or any part of their lives, because none of us

856
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 12>are more important than the bigger pictures.

857
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 2>So you're right.

858
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 12>I hope that message gets conveyed much more because you know,

859
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 12>I've heard other people that are a little closer to

860
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.920
<v Speaker 12>him speak to the He's a decent guy, he's just

861
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 12>you know, they spoke well of him. But it's the

862
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 12>public persona that that leaves people with that last impression.

863
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Of a couple of times because have youer? Have youer

864
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>sent me a note?

865
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 14>Uh?

866
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 2>New Heisel. New Heisl said this morning on a serious

867
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>XEM show that he heard from an NFL coach that

868
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Shadoor Sanders accepted a FaceTime uh meeting from someone during

869
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the interview with another with another NFL guy and stayed

870
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 2>on the on the phone the phone on the FaceTime,

871
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>so you know, he was having one conversation and got

872
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 2>FaceTime and then decided just that was more important.

873
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and and again that's that's not going to bode

874
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 12>well for him professionally, you know, and he's already made

875
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 12>a ton of money, I mean, got good for him.

876
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 12>But it's sad because it the youth are very influenced

877
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 12>by some of these personalities, and I would hope that

878
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 12>they would look to some of the other athletes that

879
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 12>were that were drafted before him and follow that model

880
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 12>versus this. I call it the Johnny men the Ell syndrome. Yeah,

881
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 12>where he's bigger than the than the opportunity in front

882
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 12>of him.

883
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So here's here's something real quick to both of you

884
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and Dave. Don't you think that now that they're getting paid,

885
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>not just a little a lot, that that inflates their

886
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 2>egos one and their self self importance. Oh?

887
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.559
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely. And you know, I was had lunch with guys

888
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 12>I went to high school with, and we were laughing

889
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 12>about Ken Giavanda. I don't know if any of you

890
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 12>remember who he was, but he coached at South Point

891
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 12>in the early seventies and then he went up to

892
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 12>I wanna's h one of the colleges up in the

893
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 12>Phoenix area, Junior College is up there, and coached for

894
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 12>many years. And we are all laughing. Can you imagine,

895
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 12>imagine having one of these guys play for Ken. I mean,

896
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 12>Ken would have run him right out of the damn

897
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 12>stadium if they had, and probably with broken legs to

898
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 12>boot he just you know, coaches back in those days

899
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 12>just didn't even you couldn't sieves of insulting your teammates

900
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 12>or your school or anybody else with an attitude like that.

901
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 12>And it's unfortunately, it's more prevalent than we think it is.

902
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 12>And that's that's the scarier part of this generation of

903
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 12>nil and everything else.

904
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Well in general too. I mean it's it's a job interview.

905
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're you're trying to impress an employer and

906
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 3>to go in there and you know, double FaceTime somebody

907
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 3>or just you know, blow off an interview or treat

908
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>it like it's not important.

909
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>This is not a great sign.

910
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've all been in positions to hire people

911
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you want to come off much better

912
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 3>than that. And so sure, if that's what he's doing,

913
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 3>I can understand why some gms are like, eh, we

914
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 3>can find other.

915
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Players, and all these people talk, they talk to each other.

916
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 12>Okay, Yeah, I'm just hoping to Browns, don't don't pick

917
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 12>them up in this third or second or third round

918
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 12>because as a Browns fan, and they made some serious

919
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 12>mistakes at quarterback, Johnny Manziel being the pre eminent mistake.

920
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 12>But Bernie Gozard, when you go back way back when

921
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 12>he was one of the things they loved a bottom.

922
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 12>He was a humble guy, and he was all about

923
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 12>the bigger picture and not about himself and that's what

924
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 12>made him such a fan favorite in Cleveland for all

925
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 12>those years. And so I'll leave it there, gentlemen, have

926
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 12>a great weekend. Cool.

927
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 2>You might have to pick a different team if you

928
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 2>want to have a better life in the NFL, say just.

929
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 12>Saying, yeah, Mike, Browns haven't won since they beat the

930
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 12>Baltimore Colts in nineteen sixty three, and they're one.

931
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 14>Of two teams.

932
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 12>They're one of two teams and the Detroit Lions is

933
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 12>my other team, and neither one of them have been

934
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 12>to the Super Bowls.

935
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, man, you might just stop watching the NFL.

936
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 12>It's like watching the Cubs for all these years. But

937
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 12>at least the Cubs finally won one.

938
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, Rick.

939
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 12>Be Well.

940
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Guys, So, Henry, you're a young man, you're going to

941
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 2>get out here in the real world. They're pretty soon.

942
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Do the athletes today, I know you follow a lot

943
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 2>of these things. Athletes up today, these standers and those guys,

944
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 2>do they influence on how you look at things?

945
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 13>Not really.

946
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's how the new generation is.

947
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>And tell me what do you think how they are?

948
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 4>I think they're a little I wouldn't say COCKI you're

949
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 4>just more I don't know. They kind of don't structure.

950
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 4>The structure is kind of different than what it used

951
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 4>to be, so they kind of do things not a

952
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 4>certain way that it used to be.

953
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not a smooth not everybody though, No, no, of course.

954
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And this I said this in the show. And I

955
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know if with you, Dave or whatever. It asked

956
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>me all the time people ask me, what's the difference

957
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 2>between a good player, like a nice player, well thought

958
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>of player and one of those pain of the ask

959
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>players their parents how they brought them up. And I

960
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.400
<v Speaker 2>say that without a question, if you have those good

961
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 2>people telling you what's right and what's wrong, and do

962
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 2>this do that they're good people like Luke Luke Walton.

963
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>That comes to mind, Chanting Fry. Some of these guys

964
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and the other ones were paying the next but they

965
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>were good paying the next those guys. And I've said

966
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>this to I said this to Bill, I said this

967
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 2>to Susie Walton. I said, you guys did, and they

968
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>had a bunch of boys, right, what you guys did

969
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 2>fantastic raising your boys, because they didn't they were the Waltons.

970
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 2>You'd think they'd have this ego right, this thing. They

971
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 2>were just normal dudes. They were just normal dudes. Walton

972
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>drove that ugly beat up convertible rode into bikes every

973
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>now and again. You know what I'm saying. These guys

974
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>were just kind of normal dudes.

975
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:36.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

976
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 3>I think family definitely has a lot to do with it.

977
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 3>And you know, we were not here in position to

978
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 3>really criticize, you know, how these guys are brought up.

979
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 3>But sometimes that's the reason, you know, things weren't true

980
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 3>stable at home.

981
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.239
<v Speaker 2>And isn't that the way that is in the world anyway? Yeah,

982
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I think so, just you know, he's got a good parents,

983
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 2>he's probably good kid.

984
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

985
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you were watching last night during the draft,

986
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean almost every if you're watching the ESPN broadcast,

987
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 3>they're basically in the green room and almost everybody had

988
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 3>some type of family there, whether it was mom, dad, grandma, brothers, sister.

989
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know most of them did. So that was

990
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>that was good to see. And this is life.

991
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

992
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean these guys are between what twenty and twenty

993
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 2>three years old, and you know, it's the biggest thing

994
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 2>that's ever going to happen to them most likely, and

995
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 2>their parents are kept saying how grateful they were and

996
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.599
<v Speaker 2>how proud they were, and I mean that was that

997
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 2>was one of the big words I heard last night,

998
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was proud. They were proud of their son for doing

999
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 2>what they did to get to this level. Would you

1000
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>see the t mac family interview, Yeah, that was the same,

1001
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>his mom crying, Yeah, and just how humble they were

1002
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 2>and come from a little beginnings or whatever and now

1003
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he's this yeah, and yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.

1004
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be he's going to a totally different

1005
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 3>part of the world and part of the country in Carolina,

1006
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 3>and how you know they're going to react to him.

1007
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And you know, he's playing with a quarterback who won

1008
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 3>the Heisman Trophy a couple of years ago, So that's

1009
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 3>gonna be an interesting combo. But it's gonna be a

1010
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 3>big culture move for him, coming from California to Arizona,

1011
00:47:57.920 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 3>now to Carolina, Charlotte.

1012
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>He's going to be making a lot of money. I

1013
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>think he'll be perfectly Yes, yes, good another call, thank you? Hello,

1014
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you're on the air, Andine on the ball? Who's this?

1015
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 5>I stay with? Jim?

1016
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Jim? What's the word?

1017
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 14>Well, this whole college, pro high school athletics city is

1018
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 14>starting to look like an eight foot tall jingle puzzle.

1019
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm tell me.

1020
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 5>And the winds about ready to blow?

1021
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not in a good way.

1022
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 5>Obviously, that wouldn't be good for a jingle puzzle.

1023
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>So tell me what do you think? How will the

1024
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>pieces fall on the ground?

1025
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 5>But I think that.

1026
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 14>I think there's a real big problem brewing that nobody's

1027
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 14>got their finger on you, And I'm not sure I do,

1028
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 14>but I think it's I think it's going.

1029
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 5>To come from the fans, and I.

1030
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 14>Think it's gonna have a bearing on you know, just.

1031
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.280
<v Speaker 5>Think about where would kids.

1032
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 17>Get arrogance an attitude? Where would they get that.

1033
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 5>In these in these times?

1034
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 2>TV, social media? Money?

1035
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 14>Nah, I get there's probably two or three other places.

1036
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>What what did you have a couple of ideas well.

1037
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 5>The constant blast.

1038
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 17>On the news is politics. Oh, I see, that's all

1039
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 17>about lack of all three.

1040
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see what you're saying.

1041
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 17>No matter which side of you approach it from there,

1042
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 17>you know, people pointing fingers at everybody, and they're all

1043
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 17>better than these people.

1044
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get you. I get you. That's a good point.

1045
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 14>That's twenty four.

1046
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 5>Hours a day if you want to listen to it.

1047
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, makes sense.

1048
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 5>All right, I'll talk to you soon.

1049
00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 3>We have a couple more could be that could be

1050
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.280
<v Speaker 3>an interest. See, you know theory, look at me, look

1051
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 3>at me, look at me. Yeah, I'm not sure, but

1052
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't see that so much in

1053
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 3>sports personally, I don't know.

1054
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, maybe because you know, when we

1055
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 2>see touchdowns and we see these things, you know, dancing

1056
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the ends or whatever. I'm not sure that I

1057
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>was gonna do with politics. No, no, no, But but

1058
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I understand this point of look at me, look at me,

1059
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 2>look at me being loud.

1060
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we live in a weird time. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure back in the sixties it was even weirder seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Every every generation has they're weird, right, yeah, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>says not, God can't get any worse than it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, you know, we just have to come back,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty years or so into the sixties to

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<v Speaker 3>see how athletes were portrayed and what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and some were sticking out more than others and talking

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<v Speaker 3>much more than others. Nowadays, they don't even do that. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, more personal. But this this was like

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<v Speaker 3>a whole you know, generation of athletes who are trying

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<v Speaker 3>to lead the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, okay, we had about a minute. Yep, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>can't we talk more about that? Not just kidding? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I tried to avoid.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I mean, I grew up. You know, in

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<v Speaker 3>those years it was a big like like ten, watching

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexico City Olympics and watching these guys protesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, what's going on that? That was a different way

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<v Speaker 2>to get attention than that athletes do now. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 2>there was sixty eight, right, Yeah, seventy two was the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting or the Munich Munich, Munich. We just remember Rascal

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<v Speaker 2>in Moscow. Yeah, so every time, every generation has its

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<v Speaker 2>own every few years, yeah, his own issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean most of the guys last night other

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<v Speaker 3>than you know, here I am this, you know older,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm older than them. Just looking at their clothes that

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<v Speaker 3>was cool to watch. Yeah, they were dressed. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I'm sitting there, which is like, oh my, look

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<v Speaker 3>at that. App look at that. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 3>more of the expression. That was fine. Iways see that

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<v Speaker 3>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you think about the introduction with plenty Matthews?

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<v Speaker 2>That was funny. That was funny, but a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure they're mad, but you know, he's got a big

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<v Speaker 3>mouth and he's always been that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he has a podcast, he's on the air,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like, give a hot mic to some crazy guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can against them. What is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to say? Oh god? Yeah, okay, yeah, So it was funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was not taken completely in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well if you're a bearrass man, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I got a message from President Trump blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Oh I know, I was worried.

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<v Speaker 12>What is he?

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<v Speaker 2>I said? I was scared of right, right, Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a break and come back. Breaking news. We saved

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<v Speaker 2>a lot for you,
