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Speaker 1: Hello and good morning everybody.

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Speaker 2: Hi, it's Amy Pollink.

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Speaker 1: Hi Amy. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic, very excited to share a conversation with you

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because you love to get into people's imaginations.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do, I do.

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Speaker 1: Where did you earn that gatekeeper's key to be able

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to do that?

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Speaker 2: Oh h that's an interesting question. So, like I tell people,

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are the kids boys and girls when I'm doing my presentations.

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There are a lot of things I can't do very well,

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but I do. I've always had a vivid imagination, I guess,

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just something I'm born with and always enjoyed telling stories

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based on oh gosh, things that happened to me, things

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that happen to people. I know. You just have to

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look around and extrapolate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you started writing in the fourth grade, which really

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shot me back to my second grade teacher, missus Keith,

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who noticed that that I was writing, and she fed that.

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She kept giving me things, Go write me a story,

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Go write me a story. And you had a teacher

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that did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And my dad always said, no matter where you are,

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grade school, middle school, high school, college, if you have

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a good teacher, you're so lucky because it can be

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kind of random someone that cares, like you say, with

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your teacher who encouraged you, and I did, missus Trenham.

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I remember her very evictively.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they knew that they were planting that

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those positive spirits in your body for the rest of

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your life.

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Speaker 2: That's such a good question, I like to think. So

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she always called me up in front of the class,

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and people to this day who I went to school

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with tell me they remember my jelly bean stories, which

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I would get up in front of the class and

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tell off the top of my head because it was

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just like fun for me. And I always got a

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good reaction, I know, And they this one well, sadly

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because for me it was, you know, sixty something years ago,

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because I'm seventy two now, and this one former classmate

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of mine brought with her to a sadly to a

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classmate's funeral. But she had she had moved several times.

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She had some of my jellybean writings that she had saved.

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So I was like, let's see, really, this is amazing

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to me. And she had made me a copy. I know.

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I couldn't believe it. So it was memorable.

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Speaker 1: When you hold on to stories like this as long

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as you have. One of the things I guess one

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of the movements that I'm going through as a daily

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writer is the fact that I want to share the

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story of the atmosphere to which I write in, because

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nobody's going to know what you like. For instance, I

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live in a forest, so therefore I'm trying to tell

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the story of this force, and I believe that it's

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so important to how I write. What about you? Where

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do you write? And will you ever share a story

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about where you write?

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Speaker 2: MM? That's interesting. So you actually lived in a sorrow

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I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking out a four at at the forest right now.

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I'm twenty three feet above the ground, and I see

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the deer, I see the cardinals. I see them all.

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They they stop buy for a visit every day and

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say hi, mister poet.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is so cool. No, mine's a much

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more boring setting. I like it. We're on a vacation

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in Florida now, and I just set up my laptop

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at any handy area. It's in the little kitchen area.

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But at home, I write upstairs in my study generally,

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or I'll write in the doctor's office, I'll write, in

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an airport, I just wherever the opportunity presents itself, that's

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where I go. But yeah, for sure, should make that

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a factor in your stories, because yours sounds kind of

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more colorful, more interesting than mine, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: When you're in the airport or at the doctor's office,

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do you pull in the energy of others and make

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it a part of that storyline?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I actually do. Sometimes you say, that's so funny.

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Some of you'll see someone go past and you're like, gosh,

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they must have an interesting backstory. Or you'll hear a

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snippet of conversation that'll that'll do it for me because

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once I unexpect, you hear the most unexpected things. Like once,

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just for one example, I'm sitting with my sister in

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a restaurant and someone right near us, like at the

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table next to us, said, I don't know, she was

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so so so trigger happy, and I was like, whoa,

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what is that? Encompass? You know, sometime it's the last

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thing in the world you're expecting. Always interesting people watching

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his people's favorite activity. For sure.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly I am so with you on that. I

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call a great people watcher. A silent wolf. You're standing

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on the sidelines and you're just watching everything.

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Speaker 2: It is always fascinating, always yield something good bad are indifferently.

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Speaker 1: It's such a daily gift too. When you hear something,

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I say, ooh that meant for me. It's going in

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the book.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes, Yes, that's very very relatable for me for sure.

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Speaker 1: How do you keep jelly Bean so authentic? Because, I mean,

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this is the thing I love about the jelly Bean

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series is the fact that you can be any age

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reading these books.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people do say that to me

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of all generations. I guess because my stories are very real.

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But I don't obviously they're meant for I have nothing

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graphic or I don't put purses in there, nothing overtly

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sexual anything like that, but I have. I'm just a

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very real writer, Like I don't gloss over a situation.

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She has a friend that her parents don't like, which

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happens all the time for a variety of reasons, subject

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to all different interpretations. Sometimes depending on what generation you

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are in and my stories, you can well, since I'm

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a grandmother now, but having been obviously a child and

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then a parent of three and now a grandmother of seven.

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You see things from all different points of view, and

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I have it all in there.

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Speaker 1: See that to me is part of the legacy of

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how you bring people together. And I love that about

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modern day writers right now is because they want to

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be authentic. I mean the journey with a Jellybean and

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her brother. I love it that they struggle because I

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struggled with my brother and sister. It's the perfect kids

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that drive me insane.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And come on, it's more authentic than plenty else

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their relationship because I say it and how I was,

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or with my own kids or with my grandchildren. No,

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they're far from perfect. They come out with what they're feeling,

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and they have anger and frustration, and you know, sometimes

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they do happily get along and then they'll flip over

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to the other side of it, where there's you know,

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jealousy among kids and buying from the parents' attention and

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so forth, and not feeling like they're getting enough attention.

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Like that's very common.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you're set up forever, teacher. Do you feel that

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inside your soul?

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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. I think if you are that way, you

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just are like tend to be. I don't want to

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say instructive that sounds so awful, But you want to

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share what you've learned, and I can't. Oh, my kids

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are now in their early forties, you know, I certainly

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can't tell them what to do. I can just suggest,

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and I can tell them what I've been through, and

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they can resist. Then I certainly did. Sometimes the only

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real lessons you learn or the ones you learn the

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hard way, and that's kind of just life. But you

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do you want to You want to say you have

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the urge to save your kids or your students from

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you know, something bad that could happen. But sometimes try

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as you might, you know, doesn't work out. If that's

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where they're heading.

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Speaker 1: I always tell my students, I need you to steal

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my art. It's right here. Ask the questions and then

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question the answers. Just steal my art.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a very good, very good way to put it,

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because interesting and I do believe the child of the

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father of the man. I've learned so much from my

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students and from my kids, like ways to behave new

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ways to think. I would always, like when I taught college,

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would say to them, how are your parts? When they

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get home from work or from a hard day, Well

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they you know, crack open a beer, or they pump

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down in a chair, they turn on the TV. I said,

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that's why we need you guys, because you have the

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energy to go out there and and do what's right

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and make a change or work for a change. If

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you think that's you know, not saying go out and

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start taking drugs or doing something evil, but to go

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out and and and you know, while you have the

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energy and the ideas to go out and make a

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good change in the world. Wow, God, we need to

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we do.

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Speaker 1: And these books are you know, give those people because

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the one thing that I keep hearing from students is

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the fact that they go, well, you don't know what

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it's like to live in my world. We have to

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we have to worry about this, and we have to

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worry about that. And I keep thinking, go get a

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jellybean book, because you know what, you're gonna go to

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a place and you're gonna you're gonna relax a little

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bit here and when you come back then you can

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start asking those questions again. But right now you need

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a break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so that's so interesting. No, I think

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reading is so important, and I know a lot of

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two boys and girls that do still read a lot thankfully.

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Gonna it is. It's pretty tough with all the you know,

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technology available and out there and oh it's so enticing.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the world of writing is going

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to change in the way that AI technology is taking

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over and these these young adults and even smaller are

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learning how to use AI technology to put their stories together.

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I mean, there's there's an art to what it is

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that we do. And I don't want the young ones

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to to basically be injured by by computers.

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Speaker 2: I know that is a really, really tough one. I

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wish I had some great answers for that, but I

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think just the most important thing is just to be

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aware of it and try to explain to kids that

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that's not it's just often not a great way to go.

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It's just not It takes away from your originality and gosh,

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I don't know what's going to be with that. I

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hope it doesn't ruin you know, kids, creativity and learning

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power really if you get so dependent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because what what What I'm not seen with a

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lot of coworkers that are in between fifteen and twenty

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is that they sit there and I say, I need

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you to write something down. So they grab their phone

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and I said, no, I need you to physically write

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it on a piece of paper. And then when they win,

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when they hold a pencil or a pan, oh my god,

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it's like the hardest thing in the world for them

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to do. And it's say, no, you should be better

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than that, right now.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know that is the truth, and it is.

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It is frustrating because I sort of funny a lot

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of times in a class where I go in to

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speak and such and they'll go, oh, missus Pollock, you

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still use a pencil, And I'm like, yes, I do.

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Haply it is it thought. There always been changes in

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the world, and like my dad always said, you do

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have to keep everything in perspective. You really do, because

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once upon a time, oh gosh, there were things like wow,

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women voting. Yeah, you know, and you have to kind

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of remember that all that. You know, life does invox

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ages and we do have to and it's always scary.

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Speaker 1: So how does jelly Bean grow into the future of

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the modern age? As the author and as the seed planter?

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How do you have jelly Bean so relatable in today's times?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? Well, I may see. My characters kind of

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tell me what they need me to do. They kind

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of dictate to me. So she is very she's very

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conscious and very aware of certain causes that she latches

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onto and life shell like with bullying, she just really

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tunes into that and tries to help this one little

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boy who gets bullied. And this is the beginning of

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my book form. My book three should be coming out

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very soon. It's all ready to go at the publisher.

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And she is very she becomes I want to say,

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she's still mischievous, you know, like any ten year old

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worth their salt is like she you know, this is

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all based on things my sister and I used to do. Well.

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She wants to set up a restaurant on her porch

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and she puts out ketchup and mustard, and her brother's like,

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where are you going to be getting the food? And

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she's like, I haven't figured that out yet, you know,

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things like that. And at one point her brother gets

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a hold of chemicals and this is based on something

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that happened with my husband when he was younger, and

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his friend and some teacher gave it to them, gave

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these and they mixed these chemicals together. And oh that's

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in there. But aside from that, in her various pranks,

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she's also a do gooder in her way. And it's

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so hard. I think the issue of popularity and clicks

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and oh my goodness, you know she's in there trying

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to figure all that out. But yet she speaks her mind,

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which is kind of hard because she doesn't. She's not

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the type of kid who's going to sacrifice her individuality

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to be in with a certain group. But that's tough too,

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so she I guess that's what keeps my book alive.

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How she figures these things out to the best of

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her ability. And it's not an easy world.

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Speaker 1: See. I love that because, in a really creative way,

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you're teaching your readers, Hey, keep a journal, write a

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story about your life. Just keep a journal, just write,

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just do something.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're so right. I'm always giving my grandchildren journals,

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and I love reading them and seeing what they're up to.

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And it's I know, it's such a good idea, and

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I suggest it to a lot a lot of the

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students also to And it's also therapeutic to get your

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thoughts out there and helps you deal with things like

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as you're writing you can kind of help yourself find

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Where can people go to find

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out more about you? Because I want them to fall

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so deeply in love with what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Errol. Okay, So my website is Amy

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pollockolllowercase dot com and my an I'm on Amazon. You

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can follow me on Amazon and trying to think my

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book's available in a lot of bookstores, but I don't know.

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I hate to be an advertisement for Amazon book boy.

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If they are the quickest, it's just the easiest. You know,

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a couple of clicks and you have it and can

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look out for my books three, which hopefully will be

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out very various.

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Speaker 1: Please put me on your calendar when that book three

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comes out because I want to continue this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, what town or what state city are you at?

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Speaker 1: I mean Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, very nice? All right, Well for sure I

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will and I do really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you Aero. Take care