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we're back. How are you a gentlemen? Doing what's going on?

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Speaker 2: D Well Pete. It's good to have you back, but

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I do have a very important question for you.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: What's it like being in a first world country.

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Speaker 1: I'll answer that after I say hello to Charles. Hey,

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what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Charles, Hey, Pete, Good to have you back, Nice to

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see again. Yeah. Well, here's here's what I will say.

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Speaker 1: I will say that I've come to the conclusion that

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you know, if you well, I've come to the conclusion

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that pretty much the only way that you're going to

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have any kind of order like that.

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Speaker 2: Here is.

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Speaker 1: It would have to be widespread, but it would also

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have to be extremely localized. I mean, you a national

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police force here, you have six there's six point six million.

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Speaker 3: People in El Salvador.

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Speaker 1: There's what three hundred and fifty million here, I mean,

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and we don't know how many illegals. So national police

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force here is probably just going to become another frigging

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USAID kind of bullshit program. So I think that one

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thing that I was taught by going there is that

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even though I think six million is still too many

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for a for a polity, for a proper polity, it's

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a lot easier to deal with than three hundred and

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fifty million, And that it just basically tells me more

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and more that you know, we need to split up

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and we need to break this down into pieces, and

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that if you are going to have order, and if

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you're going to bring order out of what has been disorder,

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then you're going to have to have a fuck around

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and find out kind of attitude. And that's what I

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saw there. The one thing that you see there is

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you see that there's still poverty, and there's always going

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to be poverty because you have a certain segment of

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that popular in a large segment is very low IQ

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and you know, there's not much you can do for

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them except you know, no bless oblige and if they're

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all else, if they're all Salvadorians, if they're all you know,

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cousins related, something that's a lot easier to do. But

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the thing I saw from the richest neighborhood to the

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barrios that I drew that we drove through and back

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and forth from the airport and taking ubers and things

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like that, is that if you're going to clean up

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and if you're not going to have an armed presence

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on the street after that, and I'm talking about they

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have a civil guard with shotguns. These are people who

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these are normally probably more like native to the land

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kind of people who are the civil guard. And then

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you have the military, which the military to me seemed

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more like European Spaniards and they're walking around at m.

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Sixteen's fully strapped, ready to go. That's just the way

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order is going to have to be done, especially coming

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out of We're not coming out of the era of being,

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you know, the murder capital of the world like they are.

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But there are sections of this country that none of

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us wants a visit. So as a going forward, if

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you want to learn anything from El Salvador and what

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bou Kelly's doing is I mean, there's there's numerous things,

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but I can start with I'll talk about prisons if

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you want to, because I've I've learned a lot about

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the prison system down there, which isn't just you know,

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a max where they put people forever they have. They

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have another prison prison system there which is doing incredible

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things and not just for the prisoners, but they're actually

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making them work for the whole fucking country. But if

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you're going to have order, if you're going to if

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if if D's wife is going to be able to

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walk to store, walk to the store at night without

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worried about getting hassled. Then you're going to have we're

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going to have to have a different, a different approach

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to how we deal with things.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely that this is yes, well, I'm going to warn

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you guys ahead of time that I'm going to warn

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you guys ahead of time that I'm I'm going to

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try not to step on toes. But this is all

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very much in my baliwick. So forgive me if I

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keep jumping in very very frequently. But yes, I I

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co sign everything you're saying, Pete. We have to the

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entire view of both imprisonment and law enforcement in this

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country has to be completely re evaluated, since most of

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our ideas regard incarceration are about two hundred to two

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hundred and fifty years old, and they just don't apply anymore.

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They just don't apply anymore. It's that simple. Deep Please

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go ahead. I don't want to stomp on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, that's all right. You know far more about

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this than I do. I just I'll just say that

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in some sociology work I did many years ago in college, right,

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you look into the history of prisons and it's this

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like absolutely bad shit Quaker idea of like we'll just

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make you sit in your room with no books and

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like go to your room. I'm gonna take your game,

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but take your take your Nintendo. Yeah, and I'm gonna

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give you just copy the Bible and you'll think about

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how bad a person you are, and you'll feel bad

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and then you'll then you'll reform your life. It's like

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not only your Quakers like theologically retarded in all kinds

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of ways, right, Like they're they're the most smug, obnoxious,

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sort of Northeastern Protestant out of everybody. But also like

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that doesn't it barely court sort of kind of almost

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worked in like rural New England or Pennsylvania. It really

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doesn't work with populations of red Indians and Mestizos and

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Blacks and you know, literally everything everyone from all across

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the world in New York right, Like, I guarantee you

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there's prisoners, violent criminals in New York City from at

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least seventy countries in New York jails right now, at

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least seventy.

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Speaker 1: That's a safe that's a safe estimate. That Riker, that's

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a safe estimate. Rikers Island is definitely a multi cult

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liberal or progressives multicultural.

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Speaker 2: Paradise, right, I mean because and so this this notion

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that we can like, well, if someone doesn't have the IQ, right,

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Like I forget what the threshold is, but it's in

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the nineties right to honestly self reflect. So if someone's

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if someone's some negro dude who's got an IQ of

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eighty two, which is not unreasonable for that population, right,

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it's literally not really capable of self assessment. Setting him

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in a box, all that does is like endanger other

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people that are around him and maybe keep the people

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outside safe and endanger the guards, right.

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Speaker 3: If yeah, yeah, if very much endangers absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you have to someone like that, like you

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need to like throw them in jail for talking to

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white women. And that's and and people will be like

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that sounds like you know what, what's the Oh the

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kid that got lynched, his dad was a rapist who

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probably sexually assaulted uh and until met your efforts Emmett

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Till right, Like you know that's the Emmett Till thing.

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He was killed for whistling at a white woman. Yes, yeah,

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because that's the kind of standard you have to have

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to control these people of like Nope. The second you

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loosen up and and he wasn't, you know, he wasn't.

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He was killed because he like sexually assaulted that lady.

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Speaker 4: Right, And.

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Speaker 2: You know, we all know, we all know what the

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difference is. But the cultural standard that worked in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia,

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you know, Louisiana for one hundred years was boy, you

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don't even talk to white women.

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Speaker 3: Well again, like just to kind of yeah, just to

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kind of go into some of your points to remember, like,

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let's just wheel it back just a little bit. You

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were talking about these principles didn't really work in New

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England or barely functioned in New England, Pennsylvania, things like that,

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the areas that are Pennsylvan you from from all those places,

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like they barely functioned there, and you were one hundred

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percent right, That's what I meant by these ideas are antiquated.

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The goal was to put you in a cell by

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yourself so you could think about what you did wrong. Okay,

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that might might work with guys in this chat right

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now and people listening to this program, and even then

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I would argue that probably wouldn't work completely well because

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obviously if somebody messes with either of your wives. You're

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going to take you're going to throw hands, you're going

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to do something, and there's nothing to think about. There's

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nothing to regret. What are you going to regret? No,

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I protected my family. This is my job. I'm a husband,

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I'm a father, I'm a man. So okay, So first off,

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we cut right through that. So if you might be

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fully justified in why you're in prison, so that's fifty

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percent off of your your self assessment anyway. And then

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even if you aren't justified, okay, guy, guys with Riq

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and the listeners, yeah you might, you might reflect and go, Okay,

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I did something wrong and all that. But you don't

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need prison to do that. You could just sit in

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the back seat of a squad car and you'll go, man,

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what I did was stupid. I can't believe I did that.

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I shouldn't have drank so much, or I shouldn't let

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him get to me. Whatever. You don't need prison. There's

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an excellent book by a man named James Berry. He

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was the last executioner. It's called My I Always Say

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My Thoughts as an executioner or something. His name is

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James Berry. If you look it up and it's it's excellent,

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and he talks about how prison reform is absolutely and

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the death penalty is absolutely necessary, but it needs to

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be reworked because again you're you're not really applying it

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in a way that's functioning properly. It's it's it's all

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backwards and it's all outdated, and it doesn't it doesn't

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align with how most people, to bring your point d it,

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most people operate. It just doesn't align with the actual

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operations of the world, the way we do things, aligned

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with as you pointed out, you know Quakers are already

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at all I'll be charitable. I won't say that they're

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weirdos or lunatics. I'll just say they'll be charitable and

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say they don't think like most other people. They're a

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very unique subset of a subset of people, a subset

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of a subset, So you can't apply their standards to

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as you said, Pete, you know, seventy plus nationalities, ethnicities

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would have you in Riker's Island. It's just not going

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to work. It just doesn't work. And when we go

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down to the IQ, I want to say, the average

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Black in America is eighty five and the average mestizo

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is eighty six if I'm correct, I mean somebody in

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the chat. I'm sure and the audience could double check

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my numbers. But when you're dealing with an item of the.

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Speaker 2: Negroes and the the mestizas are like ninety one, I think, okay, okay,

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ninety something like that, it's not high.

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Speaker 3: It's not significantly higher. And when you add the fact

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there's probably ten times then than there are blacks that

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we're still in trouble. But moving forward to the point

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of making here like these people, you can't let them

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sit in a box and think about what they did,

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because instead of thinking about what they did was wrong,

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they'll think about how they can do it to get

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away with it next time. They're not reflecting on their punishment.

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They're reflecting on how how they got caught. So that's

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why corporal punishment needs to come back again to kind

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of address your point D about the whole Well, he

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was beaten for whistling and a white woman, it's like, well,

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because that's the only thing they understand. I can't sit

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them in the back of the squad car and let

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them think about it. It doesn't work again, not to

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be flippant. But these are the people who answer the question,

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but I had breakfast, but I did eat breakfast, So

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how can you get them to reflect on their misdeeds?

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It doesn't work. You have to corporally punish them. You

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have to bring back the stocks.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, if they're incapable of reflecting on, like how

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would they feel if they hadn't in breakfast? They're certainly

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not capable of reflecting on, like how would my life

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be different if I'd make better choices?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And and and you know, I'll I'll I'll cuck out

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here and admit some leftist stuff is true, like there

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are you know, structural problems that you know, the whole

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individual's right wing libertarian nonsense of just like nah, man,

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Like if you grow up in an environment where it's

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normative that uncles drink and then molest their nieces like

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on reservations, like, there's no way you're not coming up

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messed up out of that, Like I'm sorry, yeah, you know,

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you can't just like bootstrap your way into into like

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being a functioning, healthy human being. I'm sorry, Like it's

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just it's just not. Now. The question then becomes is,

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like how do how does the wider society deal with

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dysfunctional populations inside of it? You know, inside you're like,

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do you like encapsulate it and then cut it out?

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Do you? You're like, what do you do? Like there's

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this this tumor in the body politic where you know,

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it's normative to like get really high and hurt people

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or or drive drunk or like you know, mestizos love

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love child molestation. That's there. They're like that and driving

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drunk those are their two favorite you know, So yeah,

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what do you do with those people?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And so like if that's the thing that

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they do, right, just just like Jews and financial crime,

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like like if those are things that they do, how

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do you deal with that? And and Naibu Kelly God

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bless him, the best president in the world right now,

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he actually is dealing with reality in front of him.

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I can't remember which king it is, but you know,

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someone was like asking, I think the Australi Hungarian Emperor.

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I'm probably wrong, you know, or or maybe the Serbians

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is like, you know, why don't you act more like

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the king of the Swedens, the Swedes? Who does this? This?

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This is when my people are Swedes will act like

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the King of the Swedes, right, Yeah, Now, you bickl

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understands like he's the president of El Salvador and so

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he needs to treat them like l Salvadorans, which is

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to say, like, nah, bro, you got the fat the

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face tattoo. Whether whether you're guilty or not, I'm gonna

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treat you like you act, and you act like you

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murder people for fun because you got the chear draft

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tattoo on your face. Now, whether you did or not,

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we'll leave that up to the courts to decide. But

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in the meantime, go to jail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to bring I want to raise

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a point here to your I want to raise a

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point here to your your quote about the when I'm

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king of the Swedes, I'm king of the Swedes, or

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I'll treat my people like their Swedes when I'm king

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of the Swedes. Yeah. What I like to bring them

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up in times like this is that often and frequently

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misquoted passage from The Prince, where Machiavelli writes when in

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the question of whether it is better to be loved

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or feared, everybody immediately jumps to, oh, it's better to

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be feared than loved. It's like, well, that's not actually

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the real quote. Yeah, the real quote is in the

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question of whether it is better to be loved or feared,

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the answer is, of course, it is best to be both.

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It is best to be both. So to go back

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to the point that you were raising there like d

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you're a father. I'm not doxing anything about that. You've

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made that publicly known. If you really love your children,

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you're going to treat them like who they are, like

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who their father is, who their mother is, what they

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are the product of. You're not going to raise them

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like there's somebody else's kids. Why Because your kids have

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specific needs, respond to specific things, desire certain things, and

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need certain concessions that other children don't. And those other

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children need the need different things than your children. It's

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not a matter of a it's not a matter of hate.

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If anything, it's a matter of love. You understand the

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people that are in your charge, that are under your care,

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and you address their needs, their behaviors, and you discipline

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them in a way that will turn them into the

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best possible citizens of your household. Does that make sense

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to do? You see where I'm going with that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and not only that, but hey, guys, how's it going.

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We're just talking about talking about Pete's trip to a

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fresh world country. I'll sold, yes, yes, and in fact

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this is.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, without getting too doxy, some of my children are

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more talented than others at certain academic stuff. Okay, my

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expectation for the child who's really good at, say, math,

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is that they get an A in math, and that's

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the expectation. And if they don't have that, then there's

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consequences because they know they have the talent and if

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they're not getting it, then they're just not working hard

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and they're being lazy. And I might have another kid

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who struggles with math, and if they get a B,

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that's like good effort for them, right, yes, And if

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you treat every child like they're like a naturally talented

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athlete who's also very smart and good looking and sociable,

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then you're you're harming those children because maybe they're not sociable,

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maybe they're nerdy, maybe they don't like you know, you're

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the responsible party. You have to act and treat each

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child differently based on what their strengths and weakness are.

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And if you treat them all the same, right, You're

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you're going to retard the the talented ones and like

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give the ones that aren't talented complexes because you're like, well,

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why aren't you know, why aren't you running the hundred

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and you know eleven seconds? Well, because I'm not good enough,

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Like I'm not naturally a sprinter, So why why are

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you holding you to this you know, high level sprinter standard.

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It's and in a similar fashion, right if Nabu Kelly

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was like in l Salvador, we're going to change the

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economy so that everyone is a computer engineer and we

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are going to make ourselves the tech hub of the

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twenty first century, people be like, are you high? You're

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dealing with El salvadorance man, Like, they're not good. They're

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not going to do that right, right, and expecting them

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to do that is stupid.

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Speaker 1: Now, And one thing I will say is is that

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it's it's more. You can talk about that easier down

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there amongst as long as you're not near the the

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academic class. Because yeah, I went to a museum and

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I got to hear from some young young kid who

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spoke perfect English. Work at the museum, YadA, YadA, would

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explain exhibits to you and everything you know about oh

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the the the poor, unfortunate, innocent souls they got, you know,

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swept up in these I mean, it's no one is

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your shit libs that we have here who would scream no, no.

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Everyone can be an astronaut, everyone can be a rocket scientist,

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everyone could be You're just he's not going to listen

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to that. And the culture there is leaning towards Yeah,

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we're not going to listen to that. We're not going

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to get out of what we were and get to be,

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you know, a country that people actually want to come to,

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or businesses want to come to, whatever they want to do.

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Hopefully they don't turn out like Ireland did. You're going

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to have to You're gonna have to squash that shit

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when people start saying it, because that's the kind of

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shit they'll say here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and not only that, but like to talk

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about something. You know, we all four of us participated

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in the race Morn High School series? Right, how how

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messed up as American education? Because we just can't admit

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that not everyone is supposed to go to college?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know? In El Salvador, they'll be like, look, man,

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you hate school, like, yes, I hate school. You love

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working engines? Like, yes, I love working on engines. Okay?

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Can you balance your checkbook?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I can. Can you can you do enough basic math

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to like okay? The gear raise you is need to

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for your for you know, messing around with engines? Yes

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I can. Can you write a coherent sentence?

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Speaker 1: Can you?

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Speaker 2: Can you write, you know, write well enough to conduct

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daily business?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I can. All right, here's an apprenticeship for you know,

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working on engines. Go work at the garage. They'll pay

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you and you'll get you know, high school credits for that.

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I don't know if they're doing that in a solvad or,

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but that's the sort of thing that they should be doing.

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Speaker 1: You know where they did that?

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Speaker 2: Germany?

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Speaker 1: Germany, Prussia. Yeah, and then they tried to export that

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over here, And well why wasn't that going to work here?

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Because you don't have a coherent culture where people are

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going to be like, yeah, I want to work to

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make the country better. No, I want We've been so

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we've been so hyper brainwashed by individual No. I need

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to be a scientist. I need to be rich. I

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need to be a lawyer. I need to be a doctor. Well, no,

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I mean that's what a lot adherent culture does. Well,

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that's true. But also in the United States right the second,

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I mean, we we tend to forget this, but you know,

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in nineteen fifty seven, the United States actually cared what

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the global because of the Cold War, the you know,

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racial diversity in America was to stick to beat America

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with and if if we'd actually done the pressure and

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education thing and didn't be like, look, you know, ninety

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five percent. I think you mentioned this on Jason Show, Charles.

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Everyone should go check that out. Just our friend Jason

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Marrinchick had had Charles on. It was a really good.

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Speaker 2: Episode, like four percent or less of the black people

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would be in medical school that are presently in medical

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school or something like that. It's it's it's less than

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ten percent, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I heard I heard a number on on a podcast.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it might have been Scott Adams was talking about

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it where he was saying that if if it was

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purely on merit point in zero it zero point five

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percent of the medical school of people accepted to medical

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school in this country would be black.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that might have been someone something I heard from

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you Pete.

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Speaker 1: I sorry, excuse me, Okay, I mean it's it's an

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insane number that you know. It's like you hear it

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and you cringe. You're like, holy shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that's that's probably accurate.

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Speaker 3: To step back to your Pete, your point, Pete about

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the whole Well, I want to be a lawyer, I

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want to be a scientist. I kind of I kind

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of think you're actually even being charitable with that, because

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as I talked, as I spoke with millennial woes for millennial,

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I mentioned, I mentioned that America had devolved due to

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it's probably due to its Moloch worshiping small segment of

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population that just just got focused hyper They turned individualism

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into just hyper greed, and it's just everybody wants to

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be rich. I want to be an influencer. I want

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to be wealthy. I want to be rich. Like I

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would actually kind of prefer if they just wanted to

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be lawyers or scientists, because hey, I want to I

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want to help people, or hey I want to cure

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the sick, or I want to I want to help

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people from losing their homes against you know, the abuses

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of imminent domain laws or corporate rapine corporate culture. But no,

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it's not. It's just I want to be rich. I

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want to be rich. I want to be rich. It's

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all about me. It's it's going from the land of

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the free, home of the brave, to the land of

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the me, home of the slave. It's and it's just tiresome.

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It's all tiresome. So yeah, I agree with your point.

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I just wish it was even as altruistic as as

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what you painted it as. I sadly think it's even

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bleaker than that.

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Speaker 1: Jose I was saying that. I started off talking about how,

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you know, obviously in the poorer neighborhoods and the barrios,

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which was really MS thirteen's stomping ground where they were

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just shaking down businesses and things like that. You know,

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now they have armed they have armed security, they have

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civil guard, and they have military. But not just there,

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it's everywhere. It's like I mean, it's a show of force.

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It's a fuck around and find out Look what we

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Look what we accomplished, Look what it took to accomplish this,

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and we're not going to let this ever happen again.

473
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So that's sort of how we got off on.

474
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 7: This Yeah, I am fascinated by the case of El Salvador.

475
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,319
There was a show that if you actually have the

476
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,960
right type of leadership, you can make things happen, even

477
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,279
in a country that is as like demographically and historically

478
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,599
wretched as Alvador has been, that you can make a

479
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:13,519
concrete progress on that. I wanted to also double down

480
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:14,960
on one point that Charles made.

481
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 8: I agree that now things have evolved in Western societies

482
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,519
where people's aspirations are just to become like social media

483
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:30,119
influencers and other people that just accumulate social media cloud

484
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,240
as opposed to providing productive goods and services for a society,

485
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:42,240
much less trying to make society prosperous and for current.

486
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 7: And future generations. It's just pure service for mammon and

487
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,599
accumulating social media likes and dopamine hits.

488
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, the.

489
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Where was I going to go with that? Well, what

490
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,480
I was going to do is I wanted to transition

491
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,160
to talking about the you know, basically what society would

492
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,880
become in the in the absence of these people, to

493
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,839
what you do with these people, because you know, it's

494
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,119
not only the fact that bouch Kelly was you know,

495
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,359
just had the will to do all this, had the

496
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,880
will to defy the judges and had the will to

497
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,079
basically take the military into courts and be like, I'm

498
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,200
in charge, I'm sorry, you're we're doing this and there's

499
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,839
nothing you can do about it. It's also the fact

500
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,240
that he had to have someplace to put these people.

501
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:49,400
And you know, it goes beyond the prison that he

502
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,880
set up, the the Seacot prison, which is you know,

503
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,039
you're never going to see at the outside again. You know,

504
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,640
that's the maximum security where he put the absolute worst

505
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,599
of the worst. He's actually set up a prison system

506
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,839
outside of that with the people who aren't you know,

507
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
don't deserve life in prison or really what we know

508
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,000
what they really deserve where they have to they're rebuilding

509
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,880
the country, and they're not only rebuilding the country, he's

510
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,079
kind of forcing them to rebuild themselves because you know,

511
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:25,440
a lot of these people who are in there, not

512
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:29,000
all of them or gangsters and career criminals, a lot

513
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,079
of them are professionals who fell into some shit because

514
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,079
that happens. It happens in every society that has where

515
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,720
you know, there's organized crime and there's crime and there's

516
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,160
money to be made in a black market or whatever.

517
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:47,440
So yeah, I mean I think that's that's another conversation

518
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,480
we have to have because our prison systems are bullshit.

519
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,079
I mean it's Alabama and Mississippi have the worst. There's

520
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,400
half these people probably shouldn't even be in prison, and

521
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,400
the ones that are in there shouldn't be anywhere. You're

522
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,759
mixing people who don't belong together. And also you have

523
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:13,400
a fucking workforce that could be rebuilding certain things, not

524
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,440
just picking trash up off the frogging side of the road.

525
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things in our catunity of

526
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,359
the American system. Yes, just in our criterion of the

527
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,039
American system. Right we we and because we because we

528
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,680
have this insane devotion to equality and a few other issues,

529
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,680
right we have. No, we can't be realistic about the

530
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440
sociopathic crime problem we have where we have you know,

531
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,680
this dedicated you know, this small group of just animals

532
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,200
really that shouldn't even really be in prison. They should

533
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,480
they you know, they should have been you know, you

534
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,160
light it, you light a nun on fire. You shouldn't

535
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920
be in jail for thirty years. You should just be

536
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
you know, given your last rights and yeah, from neck

537
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,880
till dead right, But we have that problem. And then

538
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920
we have the guy who couldn't meet his child support

539
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400
because there's no place in the economy for a guy

540
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:15,359
who's you know, fundamentally decent but kind of stupid, right,

541
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,119
And we have a lot of those people of all

542
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
different types. Now we have more of those people because

543
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,720
of the racial makeup of the United States of America.

544
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,279
But you know, like, what are you going to do.

545
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:33,000
We criminalize not being wealthy, right, you can't pay your taxes,

546
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:35,160
so we're just going to throw you in jail. And

547
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,000
you're in the same jail as you know, guy who

548
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,839
lit none on fire. And we can't make the distinction

549
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,960
between a guy who missed his child support payments because

550
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
there's no jobs available for a guy with a you know,

551
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:53,759
ninety three IQ with a drinking problem and a guy who.

552
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: I would say that we can make the distinction. We

553
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
just don't want to, and we're not allowed to because

554
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:04,519
we're going to point out maybe certain demographic differences. We

555
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,000
don't want to point that out because that would be mean,

556
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,960
that would be mustache man. But to still move on

557
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,519
with your points, still go alongside your point. There One

558
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,840
of the things that drives me crazy about the understanding

559
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,719
of criminal justice is people think the death penalty is

560
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,920
for vengeance. It's not for vengeance, so that's at least

561
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360
that's not what it should be for, and they forget

562
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,280
about really what its purpose is, and that is to

563
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,400
clean the gene pool. You're throwing chlorine in the gene

564
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000
pool and to clear these people out. Like we all

565
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,760
have to remember that one of the reasons European society

566
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,039
became more peaceful is because we killed a whole bunch

567
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,519
of our own that were problems. Like you said, d

568
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,719
we hung them by the neck till dead. What did

569
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480
they do in the earthquake and Lisbon in the sixteenth

570
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,800
century would they do to looters day? Would the king say?

571
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,719
He said, hang them all on the hillsides. You can

572
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,159
see everybody, so we can know what you're not allowed

573
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,039
to do. It's not really about vengeance. It's i would argue,

574
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,480
it's not even really about justice. It's about cleaning the

575
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,280
gene pools. So we don't have this problem any longer.

576
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,719
But you're not allowed to talk like that. That's eugenesis,

577
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
that's mustache man. So now we throw everybody in the

578
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,679
same rape cage, which by the way is an interesting

579
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,920
point of American criminal justice history. Do you know why

580
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,199
organizations like the Aryan Brotherhood and White nationalism became a

581
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:25,320
big thing in prison? Would you care, any of you

582
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,880
care to guess why that became a big thing in prison?

583
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

584
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: I know exactly why. Because it was the only way

585
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,639
for them not to get beaten to death. Yeah, it

586
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:37,199
was the only way for the white guys to get extorted,

587
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,760
beaten to death or sexually assaulted.

588
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 3: To survive non penalty sentences. Yes, yes, because any sentence

589
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,440
was becoming in the sixties and seventies effectively a death sentence,

590
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:54,480
whether it was given by the courts or not, was irrelevant.

591
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,800
The other inmates of color were going to kill them,

592
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,159
so they're therein was found in the Aryan Brotherhood and

593
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,800
a lot of other the white nationalist prison gangs. So yeah,

594
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,639
we just throw these people in the same rape cage

595
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,000
and say, oh, okay. Oh. And also, while you're being raped,

596
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:16,320
think about what you did wrong. It's just it's pure insanity.

597
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,599
And by the way, the name of the book I

598
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,679
just remembered, It's My Experiences as an Executioner by James Barry. Also,

599
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,039
I highly recommend the book The Truth about Lynching in

600
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,960
the South. Both of those books are our public domain

601
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,559
and you can find them with an easy Internet search. Please, Jose,

602
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:33,960
it looked like you were going to jump in by

603
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,440
all means.

604
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Well, let me just add something real quick, Jose. And

605
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,559
not only the public is taught to joke about men

606
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:45,840
being raped by other men.

607
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: It's a punchline, yeah, and I don't mean to minimize it.

608
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,159
I thank you Pete for saying that. I really don't

609
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:57,920
mean to diminish it.

610
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 7: Thank you.

611
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: That was not meant to be a punchline for me.

612
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,079
And I appreciate you saying that, thank you, because it

613
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,440
was not at all meant to be a punchline. It

614
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,239
really wasn't. It was meant to say, look at how

615
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,800
awful this is, and we still expect you. Okay, yeah, okay,

616
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,559
but I do appreciate it. Yeah, like no this stay yeah, okay,

617
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:16,840
continue please, I'm sorry.

618
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,039
Speaker 4: I Oh.

619
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 7: A few years ago, I used to watch some of

620
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,920
these prison channels on YouTube, and what I gathered from

621
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,000
a lot of that was that the whole prison system,

622
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:33,360
in many ways for was almost like kind of like

623
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,239
a now has like degenerated into like a reward for

624
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,800
a lot of these likesfunctional criminals because they can just

625
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,920
like go commit any type of like act of violence

626
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,440
and then go like straight into a prison where there's

627
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,440
already like a racial hierarchy where they'll just like thrive

628
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,679
in and then like take it out on like other

629
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440
like white prisoners, and then like if they get released,

630
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,000
sometimes they get so used to the prison system that

631
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,000
they like instantly commit a crime just get back in

632
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,679
it kind of like doesn't serve a purpose. Like I

633
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,280
actually agree with Charles that the death penalty really is

634
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,880
a genetic cleansing mechanism that should be used a lot more.

635
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719
And that's why I like I say, like more more

636
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,679
mass executions as opposed to mass incarceration. And also the

637
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,159
racial aspect of the prison system is very instructive because

638
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:28,800
it's the most extreme form to demonstrate like like the

639
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,079
dangers of like multi racialism. Like it just goes to

640
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,519
show like you have to like band together or you

641
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,800
will die. And unfortunately that reality of the prison system,

642
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:45,039
it's become an it's becoming increasingly the reality of the

643
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,559
open aires air prison that is multi racial USA these days.

644
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,639
Speaker 2: Let me let me do this, and I know that

645
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:57,880
this thing from the what just one thing the real

646
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,440
quickly show people are interested in this theoretical justifications for

647
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,920
the death penalty. I can highly recommend uh philosopher Professor

648
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,079
Edwards F. E. S. E. R. Edward Faser's book By

649
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,679
Bloodshall His Man Be Shed? It's a it's a comprehensive

650
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,000
view of the philosophical underpinnings of the death penalty. And

651
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,840
I can just say that it's not only is it

652
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,599
one hundred percent justified, it's I think obligatory.

653
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: Let me let me share this and yeah, I'll I'm

654
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,599
gonna share screen. And I'll preface this by saying, yes,

655
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,599
this is this is a white kid who was allowed

656
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:38,840
to basically go into the El Salvadoran prisons and do

657
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,400
a do a quick documentary. And it could it could

658
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,639
look like a Potempkin village. It could look like propaganda,

659
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,679
which it probably is. But it also gives you an

660
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:56,519
idea of exactly that bu Kelly is not only about, Okay,

661
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:58,800
we need to clean up the streets. No, we need

662
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,519
to rebuild this country. And well what we have a

663
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:09,639
friggin workforce that's that's available to rebuild it. So let

664
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:14,000
me share this with you guys and I think that

665
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:16,639
you will. You know, we'll play it a little bit

666
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,639
and you can tell me to stop whenever. All right,

667
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:25,320
So wait one second here, all right, I'm gonna start

668
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,559
this and just you get the idea right off the shop.

669
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,519
Speaker 4: This waslav prison and this is one. Now, how does

670
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:34,599
a prison go from being gaged controlled now a prison

671
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:36,920
where the prisoners themselves are helping to rebuild the country

672
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,440
of El Salvador. Today, I'm you inside of the world's

673
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,840
most unconventional and most productive prison in the entire world.

674
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:44,840
Some of these prisoners you will meet inside of this video.

675
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,400
We'll become future engineers, construction workers, partners, farmers. These prisoners

676
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,599
are quite literally helping to build a better El Savor.

677
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,159
This is all because the President Naimi Kelly's plan called

678
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:56,320
plans also, which translates to plan of no leisure. But

679
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,519
prisoners are typically locked away inside of prison self serving

680
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,800
their time. The prisoners here in El Salva are working

681
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,840
twenty four to seven to help build a vetter else

682
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,239
salad or Elsal has gone through it.

683
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,159
Speaker 1: Obviously, I sped up the video just for anybody who's wondering.

684
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: And actually he makes a great point that the president

685
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,960
has God go ahead, the good Charles Well, the president,

686
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:22,039
President Bouquela said in one of his addresses, like last year,

687
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,519
why should people who's the average El Salvador and whose

688
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,679
meals are tortillas and rice and beans, why should they

689
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:38,199
pay for prisoners to have meat? Yeah, and you know,

690
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,880
mercy to the guilty is injustice to the innocent. And

691
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,800
the idea that we should have this huge population of

692
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,519
people who are idle and consuming nothing or and doing

693
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,199
nothing but sitting in their prison cells is ridiculous, like

694
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:53,280
they should work.

695
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,119
Speaker 3: Well, also kind of goes back to your point earlier

696
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,440
regarding their you know, there are people in there that

697
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,960
are just in there because of you know, didn't pay

698
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:05,639
child support or whatever. Things like that. Now, maybe not

699
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,519
this specific prison per se, but I'm talking about the

700
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:11,760
overarching plan of no leisure to use his and also

701
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,679
to use Pete's point earlier, that some people you know

702
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,880
are in there because they just got caught up in

703
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920
things and it's a very corrupt society that was getting

704
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,280
cleaned up and they got drawn in. But now you're

705
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,119
actually giving them something to do. Remember the idle Hands

706
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:31,000
or the Devil's workshop. So it's you're giving these people

707
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:33,119
something to do, and you're giving them something to work

708
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,599
towards if you just throw them and again I don't

709
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,559
say this flippantly, if you just throw them in a

710
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,920
rape cage, what are you giving them? What are you

711
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,719
giving them? What kind of hope are you giving them?

712
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,400
What goal are you giving them to progress towards? Now,

713
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,320
perhaps I maybe being a bit optimistic here. I'm not

714
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,159
sick claiming all of these men are going to turn

715
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:56,199
into engineers and world class scientists. But I don't see

716
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,880
I don't see it as an unreasonable expectation or a

717
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,079
or a pie in the sky hope that a lot

718
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,760
of these men just find meaning in life again and

719
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,840
just find meaning in work again, because again that's that's

720
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,239
man's curse, to toil, to work, and without it he

721
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,960
self destructs. So I think his idea of plan of

722
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,519
no leisure is great. And it's also and I'll close

723
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:22,920
with this and let it get back to the video

724
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,480
very briefly, it's if you're going to want, if you

725
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:28,639
want your population to work, then you can tell then

726
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,280
the best way to do it is what he's doing,

727
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,679
which is to say you can either get up on

728
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480
your own, put your shoes on kiss your wife goodbye,

729
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:39,199
go to work, get paid, get benefits, come home, have dinner,

730
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,920
watch TV, and go to bed. Or you can stay

731
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,039
in a cage with everybody here and get up when

732
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,519
we tell you to get up, do what we tell

733
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,679
you to do, go to bed when we tell you

734
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,760
to go to bed, and watch TV. But either way

735
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,840
you're gonna be You're gonna be working. You can choose

736
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,679
how you want to work, or we're gonna choose. That's

737
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,320
your options, but you're not getting out of work either way.

738
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: That's my piece dangerous country in the world to now

739
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,599
the safest country in the Western hemisphere. I'm gonna show

740
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,079
you guys a large reason why we'll be starting off

741
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:12,679
this video going inside of this prison here, and then

742
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,159
we go into another prison where nobody has ever actually

743
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,239
gone into before. I will be the first person to

744
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,639
ever receive access to go to where we're going today.

745
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:21,599
Make sure guys get this video like and subscribe the channel.

746
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:23,039
We're on a mission to get the five hundred thousand

747
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,000
describers as of right now. And now let's go inside

748
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,280
of the prison here we go. Let's say that we

749
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,000
entered into the first of the two prisons we will

750
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:29,960
be going inside for this video. Throughout the video, the

751
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,199
intensity and the production of the prisons will increase as

752
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,239
our phases to the prison systems here and be ready

753
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,639
for some things you would never expect to see inside

754
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,480
of a prison. Now it was time to go meet

755
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,400
the warden who'll be guiding us throughout the first prison,

756
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:41,639
La esperanza.

757
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 9: And what's it like in herea isomra And.

758
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: What's the difference between the prisoners here inside of this

759
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,480
prison versus the prisoners that are inside.

760
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 9: Secu nemosy so inters not the name of panderocados.

761
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,559
Speaker 5: The is the central Pinal.

762
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,679
Speaker 4: If you do not know what second is. It is

763
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,920
a maximum security prison here in al Savare where the

764
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,920
most dangerous gamesters go to live the rest of their

765
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,519
lives without ever seeing the light of sun again. However,

766
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,679
in this prison it is completely different. And so what

767
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,119
kind of crime did someone have to commit to be

768
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:25,079
inside on one of these prisons?

769
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: Amne so rovos estafa?

770
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 4: And how long can somebody be in one of these prisons?

771
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,760
For propanda tempo is a maximo temp Everybody you're seeing

772
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,400
inside this video that are not police officers or have

773
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,320
a camera inside their hands are all prisoners that are

774
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,719
then being quit to work plans also literally means plan

775
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,519
of no leisure. These prisons are being quit to work

776
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,800
twenty for seven. If they're not eating or sleeping, they're

777
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960
either studying or working here inside of savagor so their prisoners,

778
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:54,360
the sons.

779
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 5: Being okay, saving somebody comes to pando and.

780
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,119
Speaker 4: How many people are here inside of this prison making

781
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400
and because these prisoners are always occupied. We entered into

782
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000
the first classroom where they were learning about medical procedures.

783
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:10,880
We have one classroom right here, and right next door

784
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,400
there's another classroom as well, and these guys are also learning.

785
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,960
So there's literally no leisure inside of the prison. No, no,

786
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,519
what's the youngest person and what's the oldest person in

787
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:27,840
side of who's the professor? Kinsok?

788
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,159
Speaker 5: Then for so many equal.

789
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,519
Speaker 4: Even the teachers that are teaching these classes are also

790
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,000
prisoners that were once somehow educated enough inside of the

791
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,159
field that they're currently teaching it to teach an entire classroom.

792
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,599
So this prison is becoming completely auto sufficient. And how

793
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:43,039
they teach, how they learn, and how they're able to

794
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:44,920
go about their business here with everything that they do

795
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,639
right here, they're doing a practice here you can see

796
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:48,400
they have a person on a stretcher. They're doing a practice.

797
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,000
So that way these people are learning how to become

798
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,079
medics is needed eventually, you know, yes, And right now

799
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:54,960
they're undergoing practice. For example, right now this is a

800
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,760
CPR backs they are doing and they have even gang

801
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,599
Man's out on the back right now, who know singo,

802
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,679
that's as right now they're doing a medical course and

803
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,199
so that was part of the practice of the CPR

804
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,760
test and I think everybody passed those here.

805
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,519
Speaker 5: It's a it's a low.

806
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,679
Speaker 4: And before you were here inside of this prison, were

807
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:14,559
you also in the medical.

808
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,079
Speaker 6: Field, americ course America and cargo program and how.

809
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: Long have you been inside of this for those message

810
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:28,760
the temple say science and now inside of this classroom

811
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,199
they're learning about chemistry. Here inside of each classroom there's

812
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:33,519
biometric thing that scanned each person as they want into

813
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:35,480
the classroom to make sure they're authorized to come in.

814
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:38,360
And they're not making any passes. Even who comes to

815
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,920
pass here doesn't. There's absolutely no ditching here in sider

816
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,599
And what was it like here inside of Saba and

817
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,400
in the prison systems here in Alaba? Before night here became.

818
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 5: President and it's this intro and it's the central panel.

819
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,000
Look moro here and graffiti.

820
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 9: On the in traffic and crable they least the traffica

821
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,480
and rolla traffic and central preneur AVM bands can say

822
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:00,440
the putava in.

823
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: Control las Banda for interior.

824
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Funding traffic. Is it true that is that the CIA

825
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:18,880
needed its funding? You know, so of course there were

826
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,360
drug smuggles, right, but no, it's something worth talking about

827
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,480
here just briefly, right, and in this there's a lot

828
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:31,519
to be disappointed with Trump piece, you know, but I

829
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:37,079
guarantee you, guarantee you that there were American ing os

830
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:46,719
imposing that sort of liberal quicker, you know, American prison

831
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,119
system type stuff on El Salvador. I guarantee it that

832
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:58,360
that there the the you know, Open Society Foundation or

833
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,639
whatever you want to say, like was helping make the

834
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,519
prisons in our self are the way they are and

835
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,880
or the way they were. And it's the rejection of

836
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,039
that that is leading to success.

837
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 7: You know.

838
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:13,199
Speaker 2: One of the things that bou Kellay is doing is

839
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,639
getting rid of all the injos in his country. Well

840
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,679
you know who, you know, democracy advocates are the ones

841
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,320
who are like, well, your prisons are cruel. Well, maybe

842
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,880
maybe people who commit crimes don't deserve leisure. Maybe people

843
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,280
who are you know, murderers don't deserve like just chill

844
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,840
on the tax period him. So I I guarantee you

845
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,119
that the reason, part of the reason that the prisons

846
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,159
were so as functional prior to President bou Kella is

847
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:53,360
that American money, which is to say, Jews in America wanted,

848
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:57,360
let you know, wanted that place to be dysfunctional because

849
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,920
it's easier to exploit if it's dysfunctional.

850
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: Once a prisoner has proven himself and passed various exams

851
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,880
and evaluations, they are then moved to the prison called

852
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,039
La Grandha, where they are then called a person of confidence.

853
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:12,719
Inside of this prison, the prison is able to work

854
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,360
without astid security, and they helped produce all the food

855
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,679
for the prison systems. Here in Al Salvador, they even

856
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,320
have farm like and this is home to the new

857
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,800
controversial fabric factory that I will be going into very

858
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,639
very soon. I met with the warden to get a

859
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:25,800
full tour. What's the difference between this prison in the

860
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:33,199
prison we were just that in Las Beranza. So essentially

861
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,840
this is where someone goes after they graduate from that

862
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,960
last prison, just that this is the best person you

863
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,360
could possibly be in before you are then sent in public.

864
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,679
Now we're heading into the industrial kitchen here where they

865
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,679
make over twenty thousand meals a day fill the prisoners

866
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,000
inside of Val Salvador before taking the food into the factory.

867
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:56,400
They harvest all and filled outside and then they then

868
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,280
take inside. And this is where they provide all the

869
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,320
food for all the prisons across Al Savado. So here

870
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,239
is one of the freshman meals here they have the beans,

871
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:13,320
rice and some tortillas in there. You're one of the

872
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,320
chefs here on a scale one in ten, how would

873
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,039
you rate the quality of the food here? It's that

874
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,320
event and how much longer do you have here? Inside

875
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,840
this show you find much chips, the carsa yours and

876
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:28,760
cry to you com pay people that live to the steadies.

877
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,880
And the precision these guys are even just cutting these

878
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,280
tomatoes with is actually insane. That guy where they got

879
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,920
it super super organized and these guys are just cutting

880
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,719
non stop tomatoes. I don't know how many hours they

881
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,400
do today, but they're going at it right now and

882
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,880
none of them are even stopping. Can't stop at brand wow,

883
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,400
and how many hours a day you guys sleep for dorman?

884
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:53,599
Speaker 7: You know?

885
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: Access, so I'll sell you on Facebook? Kind of different.

886
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:06,440
What do you do to have fun? Since the people

887
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,880
say me, Right here they're making the cookies and then

888
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,840
right here they're making the tortillas for the food. So

889
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,599
fascinating here because everything is so streamlined and done so quickly.

890
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 8: Here.

891
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 4: Everybody moves from one spot to the next, one spot

892
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,360
to the next, one spot to the next, and there's

893
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,960
no time for anything to be wasted, and everything that

894
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,880
does get put the waste is then put back into

895
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:29,440
the machines. There's no waist here inside this prison. Us.

896
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,280
What do you do to get here?

897
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: For now?

898
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,079
Speaker 4: It was time to enter into the new massive mega

899
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:41,519
factory here inside of this prison. And this building's absolutely massive.

900
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:52,079
Just look at this. We are the first people ever

901
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:53,519
to receive access to where we are at right now.

902
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,400
This is a new building that have built here inside

903
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,119
of the prison, where you can see there are thousands

904
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,679
upon thousands of people that are working on fabrics here.

905
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,800
The same clothes are going to use for schools, for

906
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,519
the prisoner's outfits, any outfit for the government will be

907
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,559
made here inside of this room right here. How many

908
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:12,159
people are here working inside right now? And what are

909
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,119
they working on? You look all over the form cox

910
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:16,480
and appropri.

911
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,199
Speaker 5: Lasprendas that so colsing.

912
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: Here will be used for the prisoners, but will also

913
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,199
be used for hospitals, schools and other projects as well.

914
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 5: Maquila nacional format the minister.

915
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,079
Speaker 4: Institution here inside this prison. What are we seeing now?

916
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:53,119
Speaker 6: The casews viendo textil aquito agains the lugar, the.

917
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Those who are listening to this, It is literally thousands

918
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:04,559
of people. So I mean, I'm not am I exaggerating

919
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:05,519
by saying thousands.

920
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, it looks like there's at

921
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,840
least fifteen hundred two thousand. Yeah, i'd say that's say.

922
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,199
It looks very much like that, about two thousand people.

923
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,599
It's massive. I just want to say something too, regarding

924
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:22,159
cit pause. Regarding the food. I think it's interesting that

925
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,119
they probably eat better than most Americans outside of prison

926
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,840
because everything's grown on the farm. It's not a bunch

927
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,719
of highly processed slop. It's not again not to try

928
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,360
and buy too heavily into the propaganda, but I mean,

929
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:37,960
like you can just look at it. Look at it.

930
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,079
You can see the farm animals. You can see the

931
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,760
you can see the vegetables. It's like it's all in house.

932
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,039
It's not just a bunch of carted in highly processed garbage.

933
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,800
So you wonder if that's you. You have to think

934
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,480
that that's going to have a positive impact on their

935
00:54:56,519 --> 00:55:01,760
outlook and on their their hopefulness, their their progress, their

936
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,559
personal and mental, physical and spiritual progress, just because they're

937
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:08,000
eating better food. And also one thing I want to

938
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,320
point out in case the audience is unaware, like prisons

939
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,280
are tremendously profit generating for a lot of outside contractors,

940
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,320
and that's why they want people in them. That's why

941
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,679
they want to fill them, because they make tons of

942
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,159
money off of it. You ask somebody how much it

943
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,039
costs to mail a letter outside of prison, how much

944
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:29,480
they get charged for an envelope, how much they get

945
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,519
charged for paper. They don't want prisons, but making their

946
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,360
own stuff, making their own uniforms, making their own food

947
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:38,840
because they can. That's tons and tons of money to

948
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,920
contractors to sell very low quality goods at very high prices.

949
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:48,079
Speaker 2: YEP. And one of the biggest unions in the state

950
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,800
of California is the Correction Officers Union. So we have

951
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,239
that vector. But just to speak to the closed thing

952
00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,239
real quick, in Michael Jonestock with this. Recently, every every

953
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,079
nation that industrialized did so by first making their own clothes,

954
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:13,000
because everyone needs clothes and they're relatively simple. So just

955
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:18,800
like NAFTA destroyed Central uh Wahawkan farmers right there, their

956
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,920
corn couldn't compete with iam acorn, a lot of these

957
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:27,679
South and Cistral American nations uh can't industrialize because they

958
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,960
can't complete with you know, the millions of T shirts

959
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:34,280
that were going to the you know, last year's Super

960
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Bowl loser that you know they print up you know,

961
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,880
one hundred thousand you know chiefs versus one hundred thousand Eagles,

962
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,519
and you know, all the you know, chief super Bowl

963
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:49,360
champions of this past year T shirts get sold or

964
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,760
given to people in Africa and Central America. So not

965
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,400
only are is all these guys learning useful trade, but

966
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,360
they're actually helping industrialize their own country.

967
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: You got anything, Jose.

968
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:13,199
Speaker 7: One point the raised about the NGOs reminded me as

969
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:18,119
well respect to I think Japan's prison system, which is

970
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:24,519
actually really similar to the solid Oran model, which is

971
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:30,119
heavily focused on work. In fact, apart from like the

972
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,239
time served. If I am not mistaken that you have

973
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,039
to serve in the Japanese prison system, you are expected

974
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,599
to pay off like a certain monetary debt, and to

975
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:43,679
do so you actually have to get a type of

976
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,480
skill in there. And a lot of these NGOs really

977
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:52,719
do hate the idea of like hard labor. They prefer

978
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,639
the status quo model, or at least like even something

979
00:57:56,679 --> 00:58:00,559
that turns prison system into just like some leisurely lounge

980
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:04,440
to just encourage people almost to get in the prison,

981
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:08,519
and it creates the cycle of like rent seeking groups

982
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,679
that profit off of this, while the criminals that get

983
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,280
out there, they're allowed to just continue to recavic and

984
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,760
in effect create this society wide strategy of tension. And

985
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:25,800
it is, in my opinion, pretty insidious the way the

986
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,840
current system is designed. And that's why any type of country,

987
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,840
whether it's a Salvador, some East Asian disciplinarian like East

988
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,199
Asian country that tries to break free from the model,

989
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,800
it gets demonized because it is a threat to the

990
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:41,000
present system.

991
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:46,039
Speaker 1: All right, going to restart this and keep it going,

992
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:48,719
because there's some more really good stuff in here.

993
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: The industrial into how many closes the day, are you

994
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,360
guys trying to make condo.

995
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: The areas depended people?

996
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 4: So you're saying essentially here, with all the workforce you

997
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320
guys have here, you guys are compete with anybody outside

998
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,400
of is a la.

999
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: Personas for.

1000
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: To be for people who are just listening, twenty one

1001
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,440
hundred people working at the same time, working three eight

1002
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:49,239
hour chefs a day. So basically they have sixty three

1003
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:55,639
hundred people and working every day working working eight hour

1004
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:04,480
shifts making clothes for the country. I mean, could could

1005
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:05,920
you imagine that efficiency here?

1006
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: I can imagine it.

1007
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:20,719
Speaker 4: You see. So every single day twenty four seven, there

1008
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:22,719
are two thousand people that are working on close here

1009
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,719
inside of this factory. Wow, So they're making the government

1010
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:28,679
official shirts here inside here, like I saying, they can

1011
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:30,440
compete with anybody from outside here. And this is helping

1012
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:33,440
us out save thousands upon thousands, potentially millions of dollars

1013
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:35,840
as these prisoners are being put to use versus them

1014
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,480
just spending time inside of the prison zone. And how

1015
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:43,519
much longer do you have in your sins? Yellow and

1016
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:44,719
I here don't mind me asking what kind of crime

1017
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,440
you guys commit to get inside of the prison and

1018
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,920
the ESTAFA what you said, and just to show you

1019
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,360
some of the profits that you guys have made here

1020
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,400
inside of the factory. Here we have all the shirts

1021
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,679
and these shirts they are the same shirts that these

1022
01:00:57,679 --> 01:00:59,480
you are also wearing as well. So by doing this

1023
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,480
else helps cut down the cost of stuff they usually

1024
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,639
have to export outside of the prison system, and said

1025
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:06,960
they have brought it into the prison systems, making taxpayers

1026
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,119
here in Elsaber not have to pay for the clothes

1027
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,960
of the prisoners. And all of these prisoners every single

1028
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:13,800
day they work here inside this factory, two days is

1029
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,639
taken off of their sentence, so that means if they're

1030
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:17,960
supposed to serve four years, they can tatually serve only

1031
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,320
two years if they work inside this factory every single day,

1032
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,519
helping reduce the time all of these fuel's sentences and

1033
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,199
also helping build up the country as well. And so

1034
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,239
right now there are two thousand people. However they have

1035
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,599
three shifts of two thousand people, so twenty four to

1036
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,280
seven this factory is running each every single day with

1037
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,280
over six thousand prisoners working inside of this factory. Over

1038
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,320
here they're making the clothes and then right here they're

1039
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,400
building a different set of clothes as well, so they

1040
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,400
can do hospital schools. The prison clothes themselves here inside

1041
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,960
this factory, and it is absolutely massive here, over two

1042
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,119
thousand people and each person is working hard. You do

1043
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:49,760
not see any cell phones in here. In fact, the

1044
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,639
cell service here is completely blocked, and these prisoners have

1045
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,519
no access to the outside world as far as internet goes.

1046
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:56,039
You feel are on a shift for eight hours and

1047
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:57,679
then the next shift comes in twenty four to seven.

1048
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:00,199
This place is operating. I have never seen an anything

1049
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,119
like this, and it's actually pretty insane to think that

1050
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:04,480
here in El Salvare they're now using the prisoners to

1051
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:06,960
help rebuild the economy. Expert I think so this way

1052
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,960
they don't have to be importing clothes from a country

1053
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:10,719
like China or the United States, said, they can be

1054
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,599
doing it right here in house in side. El Salvare

1055
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,639
using the prisoners essentially for free labor here as they

1056
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:17,599
are then getting two days off of their prison sentence.

1057
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:19,239
What price would you put on your life for an

1058
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,440
extra three two days of liberty. Imagine you're sending for

1059
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,679
ten years. By working in here, you can then reduce

1060
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:25,400
your sentence, so just five years to be with your

1061
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,960
loved ones once again, and you learn a new skill

1062
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:30,199
as well. We're going to another location here inside this prison,

1063
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:31,480
to where they make all of the deaths for the

1064
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:32,480
schools here, so.

1065
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: Carcilii or no semi implemental purpose?

1066
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: What are they building right here? And how long have

1067
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,559
you been working here?

1068
01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 5: For four years?

1069
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:49,239
Speaker 4: What kind of crime did you commit to get sent here?

1070
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,679
I have rubbery, simple rubbery? And how many years did

1071
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:53,159
you get I have eight years. What do you hope

1072
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:54,760
to do once you finish your time here inside this prison?

1073
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,960
I wont Saudi and in the university. These are all

1074
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,719
the death they're currently building for the schools here. Every

1075
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,000
single day they build a thousand desks, and then these

1076
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,400
are the finished products right here. They even have really

1077
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,559
nice chairs as well. And then here is the finished

1078
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:08,719
product of the school desk that they build for each

1079
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:10,480
school here in El Salvador. They're building over a thousand

1080
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,800
a day. Are you ever worried that you are gonna

1081
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,119
make too many desk but you're not gonna have fast

1082
01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:13,679
room to fill them?

1083
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:13,719
Speaker 7: With?

1084
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: You to sell a ski pikar for our rooms. After

1085
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,320
spending time inside the factories, it was time to go

1086
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,360
outside and understand why they call this place like na

1087
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,639
the farm. I am honestly quite amazed at what I'm

1088
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:30,679
seeing right now. They even have their own farms, even

1089
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:34,679
with their own lake out here. Can pescaalaki home? You

1090
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:36,119
contos pesses.

1091
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 5: Pass.

1092
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 4: Now he's gonna throw the net out. We're gonna catch

1093
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,880
them fish least though almost boom, Let's catch them fish.

1094
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,400
Here we go. Holy cow, we caught a lot of fish. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

1095
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:51,400
nine ten. You just got ten fish here inside this

1096
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,719
little lake, inside this little reservoir here. I am beyond

1097
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,880
amazed at what I'm saying here in El Salvador, between

1098
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:58,199
the factory they've just made to the fish here and

1099
01:03:58,199 --> 01:03:59,840
the reservoirs that they have created out here as well.

1100
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,039
And then behind us we also have the field where

1101
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,920
they have all the vegetables and all the other food. Now,

1102
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,800
these are the bigger fish here they put inside of

1103
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,360
these pools right here. Oh, oh my word, look at

1104
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,519
these ones. Holy no, look at this fish that they're

1105
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:15,559
grown here inside. This fish is ginormous.

1106
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,119
Speaker 5: Old on migo.

1107
01:04:18,519 --> 01:04:23,239
Speaker 4: Okay, they goes to the naive here at this prison.

1108
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,159
You guys have literally everything from people that know how

1109
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:26,800
to bake peep that know how to sew, and people

1110
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,320
that know how to fish here next to the rest

1111
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,039
where they also have a cornfield. And what do you

1112
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:36,199
guys use the corn for? We've now made it to

1113
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:37,360
the farming section here in the prison, we got a

1114
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,559
bunch of cows behind us back. How many cows you

1115
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:44,920
just out here? That is mismos, it's correct.

1116
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,119
Speaker 5: So are you in process?

1117
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: And were you a farmer before you got here? A

1118
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:58,880
grand hero ante to kei? And how much more time

1119
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,719
do you have? What runs now? Oh wait, look at

1120
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:02,280
all these cows they have here in til this prison.

1121
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,320
They're all just mentioned When you committed your crime and

1122
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,880
you're taking a jail, did you ever expect you like

1123
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,119
to be like this insider prison or k.

1124
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 10: SM different star and last different to put the prison

1125
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,320
whatever for employers who sent to industrial aka I muchosa

1126
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:23,840
and cambio anti purama is an appression conventional like.

1127
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 5: Plus camotes different and imprission.

1128
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: It's very impressive. Will do do you think other countries

1129
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,679
across the world war starting to follow example the al

1130
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:38,159
Sabare and now you become upset.

1131
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:46,039
Speaker 10: Clara se estomplo para quel persona independent roc and committee.

1132
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 5: But then ready is.

1133
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:52,159
Speaker 4: And what kind of crime did you committic come here to?

1134
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:54,039
And you believe I was justified?

1135
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: Was pero?

1136
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,119
Speaker 4: They're gonna shows how enough the cows here as well.

1137
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:01,199
I'm not a cow for so we're gonna give a little.

1138
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,159
There's no fat inmates as well, n you said, I

1139
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:17,880
am achety just on the ground. We just fund at

1140
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,320
on the ground, he says. They don't even worry because

1141
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,880
there's someone strusting the inmates. And these are even numbered

1142
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,719
to the inmates as well. Now I think I'm about

1143
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:25,480
to ride a horse. Never ridden a horse in my

1144
01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:28,000
entire life. We're doing here with some inmates, your El

1145
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:28,360
salvad Or.

1146
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:28,639
Speaker 5: Here we go.

1147
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: Okay, first time not good, First time not good. We're

1148
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,840
gonna do that again. Take pick too, Oh, here we go.

1149
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:37,159
Speaker 5: Okay.

1150
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:39,639
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. The rest of this is him

1151
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:46,079
just enjoying the animals. So yeah, go ahead discuss. I mean,

1152
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,159
here's something I'll throw out there. I think Nabu Kelly

1153
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,159
is a very intelligent man, and I think there are

1154
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:57,840
a lot of very intelligent people in all salve it Or.

1155
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,199
I also don't think that anyone just inside of L.

1156
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:07,079
Salvad or is responsible for planning all of this. So

1157
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,199
I'm wondering who who may have been in on this,

1158
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:17,719
because I think they had help in their design. Maybe

1159
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,239
I'm wrong. I think it's perfect.

1160
01:07:22,239 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who we're good well, as we've seen, right,

1161
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,119
there's there's a global left network that the USA d

1162
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,760
stuff has just sort of sort of top surface talked about.

1163
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,920
And in fact, you know, one of the things I've

1164
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,159
complained about the most and on this show and others,

1165
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,360
is the fact that we don't have such a network

1166
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,400
but winners win and one of the things that somebody,

1167
01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:53,960
you know, Victor Werbon, is trying to set up this

1168
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,119
sort of network. I think he's He's probably got some

1169
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:59,679
of the wrong people, you know that the Danube Institute

1170
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,760
or whatever, but they're they're at least trying. And I

1171
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,480
think me bou Kelly is smart enough to know that

1172
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:08,679
he's not the only one with good ideas, and that

1173
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,039
he probably brought in other people with good ideas. You

1174
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:13,559
know that that's not out of the realm of possibility.

1175
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:18,119
He's obviously a very canny politician. Just this the story

1176
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:19,760
of how he got elected mayor and then how he

1177
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,920
was like the president proved that he's a smooth and

1178
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,920
shrud political operator. Why why is it impossible to think

1179
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,159
that he has a role at active people who aren't

1180
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,640
you know, civilizationally hostile? Like of course he probably did.

1181
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,319
No one can know everything, so why wouldn't he.

1182
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: Well, my I guess one of the things when I

1183
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see something like this I think is is that is

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this a test for other places? Is it like, Okay,

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how how is this going to work? And are we

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going to see this multiply? And as well as this running?

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Really the only thing that you can see holding it

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back from happening in other countries and being adopted even

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here by our individual states or counties or cities is

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that entrenched bureaucracy and that entrenched corruption. And I mean,

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I don't know if there's I'm assuming I have to

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assume just because of human nature that somebody is profiting

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from what's happening there. But also if things can run

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like that there and some kind of graft is happening,

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it's still a better model for than what most countries

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are doing right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to kind of combine the two points,

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I think you're both right. I think somebody has their

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hand in it, Pete, and I also think Dee's right

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in that naib has as a rolodex of guys that

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know stuff. I would not be surprised, and obviously I

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couldn't speak with any certainty, but I would not be

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even slightly surprised to learn that Naive Bukelly and his

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rolodex had a bunch of guys that have been trying

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to push this plan for twenty five years, thirty years minimum,

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fifteen years. It's too well thought out to be recent.

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It's probably been been checked and rechecked and triple checked

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and quadruple checked. So I have a feeling that this

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is a model that some company, some organization somewhere has

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been trying to has been shopping around in America and Europe,

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been all over the world for more than a decade.

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I'd be willing to bet I'd bet a kidney on

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that in fact, and it just so happens that they

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finally found a winner in Bukelly, who said, you know what,

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I got to do something with these people, and your

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plan's the best one I've seen so far. You get

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the contract, and it just so happens that I guarantee

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you because remember, just because I mean, I guarantee you

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not fall into cynicism. Let's not fall into cynicism. People

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can still make money and do good for humanity. You

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can do both. You can make a doctor's salary and

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actually care about your patients. So yeah, I absolutely believe

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somebody's been shopping this around and hopes to make millions

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of dollars on a government contract. Does that automatically make

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them scammers or corrupt? No, not at all, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: No, you can.

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Speaker 3: You can earn your paycheck, honestly, go ahead, de.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guarantee you. Someone in Boukeli's government got him

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a copy of France List guaranteed, Because what do you

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do when you're a poor country. You do as much

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autarchy as you can. You don't have the resources to

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spend money outside. Like for a loile time, El Salvado's

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biggest export was l salvadorance, and that's never You can't

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get rich that way. You can't get prosperous that way.

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You can't you can't build a decent, stable country when

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you export all your young men. You know, there are

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entire villages in Mexico that have moved to the United States,

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Like how is that good for Mexico, you can say

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cynically like they're exploring their their you know, their stupid

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population or their surplus population or whatever. But but over

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the long term, you know, that's not a to the

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extent that they do anything good, They're going to be

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doing it for somebody else in another country. So it's

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not good for Mexico or anywhere else. So look at

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all that odd tarchy, right instead of instead of having

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to you know, go to a factory somewhere else and

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import school desks from Mexico or the United States or

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Argentina or wherever they're building them there. And now there's

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people who have you know, skills and fabrication that they

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can take to the outside world. And they have, you know,

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the children of El salvad Or have functional schools with

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the with the stuff that they need to study and improve.

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So someone put some Frederick list in his hand, and

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you know you've talked to Mike Maxwell before, Pete. Everyone

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should go check on Imperium Press and pick up, you know,

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several of their books because that that's where, you know,

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all the real ideas are on our side of the fence,

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all the good ideas and on our side of the fence,

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and this proves it right. You know that there's been

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a lot of criticism of Trump, justifiably, I think in

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our sphere. And I'm not going to defend the guy

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for not having you know, for for being stymied and

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checkmated it every turn, or not pushing as hard on

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things as you should have. But I think that's something

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that does need to be said, is all of his

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ideas and the things he says he wants to do

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that the American people are saying that they want. They

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want the mass deportations, they want the gangster in jail,

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they want the government waste cut, they want you know,

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the illegals off the welfare rules. They want you know,

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the Department of Education shut down. Right, all of those things.

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The ideas are fantastic. It's the execution where Trump, I think,

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is falling down. And they're all, what are people? Our

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people were the ones talking about these idiots five, ten,

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fifteen years ago, and now they're mainstream. And I think

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that's a very big deal.

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Speaker 1: Jose, why don't you, why don't you jump in and

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talk about how how are economic liberts? Harran pryors but

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up so hard against.

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Speaker 7: This Well, one thing I like about the El Salvadorian

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case is that it kind of goes beyond like higher

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discussions of reducing everything to whether if it's like humane

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for the individual or just anything that's centered around the individual,

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but rather like it it asks like a tough question

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like how do what do we do with a bunch

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of criminals and other malcontents in society and put them

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to service to the state, Like, obviously they're not gonna

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rehabilitate all of these people, but at least with these

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programs in O Salvador, they will at least put put

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them to work towards something bigger that the state and

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broader society can benefit from. That's something that you'll just

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never hear in the really like neoliberal dominated West, where

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things are just centered around growing the GDP or satisfying

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individual demand. There's no real discussion about whether it benefits

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society and like posterity in the long term. Yeah, I

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think like as well, this is a clear dunk on

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bu Kelly, is a clear dunk also on libertarians and

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especially the NGO space, because I actually have some experience

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over a decade ago working with a good deal of

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libertarians that were working in Latin America, and fast forward

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to the present, I see a lot of these people,

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same people, still libertarian and still trashing Bukelly because of

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the simple fact that he is using top down state

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action to affect positive societal change, and it completely goes

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against many of these people's assumptions about how you can

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make things happen. And to touch out on the point

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about whether Kelly learned these ideas from other people, if

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he was getting advice, I think it's highlights the importance

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for people that are getting at the politics that it's

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all about building not only like human human relations, but

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even more complex networks to be able to affect political change.

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Because no man is an island in this game, so

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you have to not only be able to interact with people,

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but build actual structures that go beyond election cycles that

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you can pass on to future generations. Because and it's

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why I also don't quit when it comes to writing content.

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I tell other people who have like bold ideas for

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fixing society to continue to do this because who knows

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what that blog post that you made a few years

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ago could serve as a a template for some reformer

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down the line. And Latin America is actually, in many

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ways a really good p tree dish for a lot

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of these ideas, because unlike the West, which as very

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well entrenched deep states and permanent bureaucracies, a lot of

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Latin American countries are still very stuck in rudimentary phases

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of their state development. So it sometimes no matter of

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having the right person, with the right advisors and network

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giving them support to implement drastic changes. So that's that's

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one thing some people can learn from this example.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think another thing is that if you talk

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about how you know El Salvador is basically what their

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main export has been for a long time is El Salvadorans,

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and how the way they're setting up this economy is

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helping to rebuild Well, I mean, what's been our main

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import for the last twenty years? It's been people from

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other countries? And what has been export America? That's been

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our main import? Yeah, and what's been our main export?

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Does anybody? Can anybody really answer that what our main

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export has been in the last twenty years?

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Speaker 2: Intellectual A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The gay I mean this is not only a model

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for a country a six point six million in the

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middle of Central America, This is a model for the

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way we have to approach this. We have to start

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building our own things again. We have to We need

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to start building our desks. We need to start building.

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You know, if I look around, you know, at the

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things in the room or on my desk in front

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of me, you know, I question whether I know one

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of these is made in Australia. I don't know where

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the hell the computer was made and everything, but I

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would I would assume half of the stuff here is

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made in China, right And China has a place called

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Sox City where they just make the socks for the world,

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just make socks. What is stopping us from doing this?

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And really think about this, what is stopping us from

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if you want to start manufacturing these small little things

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that everyone uses, that every school uses, that every office

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building us, that every government building uses, that we have,

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how many prisons do we have and how many prisoners

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do we have right now?

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Speaker 2: The largest population in the world, millions of people?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have a workforce right here. And

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if you're if we're at the point where it's like

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we may need to start arresting judges and shipping them

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to El Salvador. Let's start doing things that are going

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to piss off the same people who are pissed off

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about You know, when we I heard one of these

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fucking women on TV the other day who was like

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who was basically said that Trump was not allowed to

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do something because a circuit court judge. It had to

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go through a circuit court judge. First, Are you fucking

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kidding me?

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Speaker 7: Tritarchy in action?

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Speaker 1: I mean it is, basically, I mean, we're back to

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the fucking longhouse. No, fuck you put these fucking prisoners

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to work, make them build shit, build the fucking factories.

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I know a lot of that was in Spanish, so

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people who were just listening to this aren't here. But

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what the what they said at one point was these

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factories didn't exist where where all this stuff these prisoners

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are doing. These buildings didn't exist before. Bukelly hen't even

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built these.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is one of those things like you

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can just do things. A prison that holds h yes,

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twenty five thousand people. Twenty five thousand people, was it?

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That's a small town. He built a built a prison

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the whole it's a small town. And all these factories

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and all of these farms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, to jump to your point, Yeah, he says.

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He says, it's not even a prison. His exact words are,

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it's an industrial complex. And he's right. That speaks to

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your point. That's that's its own little civilization, which is

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what they're doing with these people. And I think that

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can't be overlooked. They're civilizing most of these people. That's

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the point. Again, I don't want to get mired in

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the weeds where they're civilizing these people. That should be

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the goal. Again. The goal is, yes, we should make things.

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I'm not saying we shouldn't, but the goal is to

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civilize people and to get them to be productive so

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that they can make things, so they can as to

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address your point earlier, Jose, they can do things for posterity.

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They can build the strength for today and tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Godde can you imagine an American prison where there's just

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a machete lying around and then someone who picks it

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up doesn't immediately get shot. No, I mean this was

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a full on like machete. It was probably twenty inches long,

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steel like like you could dangerous weapon in any kind

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of hands, like you know, and justifiably right like any

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you know, if you don't think it's an incredibly dangerous weapon,

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Like you've never seen what kind of reach like an

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edge weapon can give somebody extremely dangerous in the wrong hands.

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But they have said, like, now we're gonna make people better.

1415
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You know, people people were on drugs, people were robbing people.

1416
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:52,680
You know, they take all the hard crore criminals and

1417
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,800
send it to that one prison, But then they take

1418
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,720
everyone else who's just you know, a person in a

1419
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,880
bad situation, and they say, all right, well you got

1420
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,319
a chance.

1421
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:05,359
Speaker 1: Well, and if they make a mistake and they put

1422
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,439
somebody who belongs in the hardcore prison forever, and they

1423
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,079
put that person in the workers prison and they don't

1424
01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:14,880
work out, you take them out and you put them

1425
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,439
in the hardcore prison. Basic Also, it's also a filtering mechanism. Okay,

1426
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,600
so we watch these thousands.

1427
01:24:21,279 --> 01:24:24,159
Speaker 3: Of pay they even say in that they even say

1428
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:28,279
in that context they say, this area of the complex

1429
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,039
is our most trustworthy prisoners. Where they had the machete,

1430
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,920
and I would wager the pete you're one hundred percent correct,

1431
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,960
And they got there because they demonstrated their trustworthiness. Another

1432
01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:40,520
thing I want to bring up that I think is

1433
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,319
crucial to point out is it goes.

1434
01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 4: Back to it.

1435
01:24:44,319 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: It basically proves what I had said earlier in the program.

1436
01:24:47,239 --> 01:24:50,399
You're giving these people hope with this program, You're giving

1437
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,800
them something to do. And I'll just raise two points

1438
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,159
and I'll see the floor very quickly. The first is,

1439
01:24:55,239 --> 01:24:59,319
if you notice they said we're taking time off your sentence,

1440
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,560
if you so, not only are they keeping busy, they

1441
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,479
are actually helping themselves as well. There is a healthy

1442
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,800
amount of self interest in there, which is good. Self

1443
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,720
interest isn't inherently evil. So that's a positive right there.

1444
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:18,399
And the other thing that I think is really important

1445
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,199
to note is what were the crimes of most of

1446
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:26,359
the people in the higher trust area. Robbery, drugs. It

1447
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,640
wasn't rape, it wasn't murder, it wasn't even it wasn't

1448
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,119
even a lot of the other things. It was, like

1449
01:25:32,279 --> 01:25:34,399
you said, like we talked about earlier, that segment of

1450
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,520
the population where hey, I grew up in an incredibly

1451
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,640
dysfunctional community, whether it be family or just the town,

1452
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:45,079
and this is just what we did to survive. But

1453
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:48,920
now that somebody has shown me there is another way

1454
01:25:49,039 --> 01:25:53,720
to survive that is pro social, I'll do it. And

1455
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,159
now I'm reaping the benefits of it. So I'll see

1456
01:25:57,199 --> 01:25:58,720
the floor now that I just wanted to mention those

1457
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,319
two points. Just I just have one point about the

1458
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:03,720
dog that didn't bark. Do you guys notice one thing

1459
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:09,399
that was totally absent? Women and the hundreds and hundreds

1460
01:26:09,399 --> 01:26:13,439
of prisoners we saw, well, women, women, first of all. Secondly,

1461
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:18,119
you've seen lots of pictures of Elsavadore in prisons. What

1462
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:24,279
was completely absent? I didn't see a single guy with

1463
01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:29,239
a face tattoo. Oh yeah, not one. Hundreds and hundreds

1464
01:26:29,279 --> 01:26:32,800
of people we saw in this video. Now might some

1465
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,439
of them might have been repeats or whatever, but hundreds

1466
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:41,439
of people and not a one with gang tattoos, not

1467
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:41,800
a one.

1468
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: So that's you know. I mean, Charles has made this point,

1469
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,119
and I've made this point the point before, but like

1470
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:55,119
if in America that you know, Charles is always talking

1471
01:26:55,119 --> 01:26:57,119
about the preto principle. When I I firmly agree with him.

1472
01:26:57,319 --> 01:27:01,199
Like you could just take, like, go to Los Angeles,

1473
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,920
any dude wearing red, any dude wearing blue in a

1474
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,800
certain neighborhood, just grab them and throw them in prison.

1475
01:27:09,319 --> 01:27:11,079
Why because he's a member of the Bloods. He's remember

1476
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:16,920
the crips. You know, if he's if he's wearing certain things, right,

1477
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:21,439
he's if he's got the Latin King's tattoo of the

1478
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,479
crown on his chest, just throw them in prison, you know,

1479
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,119
you can just do things. And and one of the

1480
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,039
things that Pete talked about this is this federal judge.

1481
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:32,840
How many of these federal judges are actually Americans? I

1482
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,960
think I think one of them was like a h

1483
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:41,960
Asian lesbian immigrant or something, right, like you have Canadians,

1484
01:27:42,039 --> 01:27:45,159
you have, yeah, I mean Asians like I'm born here

1485
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,239
right there, and so right, they they have ascended to

1486
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:51,680
the highest place they can in the worst place they can. Right.

1487
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,760
Why why were these people giving places in American law

1488
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,000
schools to the point where they could become federal judges?

1489
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: Why?

1490
01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:08,239
Speaker 2: You know, and I'm gonna steal Charles's line, you don't

1491
01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:11,439
have female judges because then you're literally entraining the opinion

1492
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,800
of a woman into law. And as Amy Cony Barrett

1493
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,520
has shown, it's just a bad idea. Right. I don't

1494
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,119
regard I don't regard any any any decision by the

1495
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:27,640
Supreme Court where Katanji Brown Jackson is in the majority

1496
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,039
as valid because I don't think any of her decisions

1497
01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:33,720
are valid. I don't think any decisions where Sonya slimor

1498
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,680
is a deciding vote are valid because I don't think

1499
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,159
any of your disisants are valid. Like you can say

1500
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:38,840
but with us the rules, like I don't, I reject

1501
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:44,800
your premise entirely. I don't think that that Jews, or women,

1502
01:28:45,039 --> 01:28:47,159
or you know, like any of these people have any

1503
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,680
right to tell me what the law is because their

1504
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,359
interests in mine and the interests of a stable civilization

1505
01:28:53,439 --> 01:29:00,399
that works are completely at odds. And you know what,

1506
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,720
whether you know there was shadowy in GEO funding to

1507
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,399
make our salve Or a horrible place, or shadowy NGO

1508
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,600
funding to make our salvad Or a functional place, it

1509
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:18,960
doesn't really matter. What matters is that all across the

1510
01:29:19,039 --> 01:29:21,279
world right now, you know, we're we're tittering in the

1511
01:29:21,319 --> 01:29:24,600
brank of recession. Probably if you if you used you know,

1512
01:29:25,079 --> 01:29:28,880
shadow stats numbers were probably in one. There's a huge

1513
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,680
government debts all over the place. Europe's bankrupt, doesn't really

1514
01:29:32,399 --> 01:29:35,319
doesn't really have a military. There's the wars in the

1515
01:29:35,359 --> 01:29:39,439
Middle East and the war and Armenia, and the war

1516
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:45,640
in Ukraine and and you know, the the immigration problems here,

1517
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,159
the government debt problems here.

1518
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,119
Speaker 1: Like the world.

1519
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 2: Purpose of a system is what it does, and the

1520
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,279
world system that we under right now is leading to

1521
01:29:57,159 --> 01:30:00,039
you know, mass bankruptcy all over the world and and

1522
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:07,159
completely dysfunctional governments. So maybe we should change that so

1523
01:30:07,279 --> 01:30:12,079
that it works. I don't know, like call me crazy.

1524
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,079
And and if the if Abraham Lincoln, who I'm no

1525
01:30:15,119 --> 01:30:17,479
fan of as as all three you guys know, right

1526
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,000
like I come from the anti Lincoln school of libertarianism,

1527
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,000
he is right about what if the Constitution isn't a

1528
01:30:25,079 --> 01:30:27,840
suicide pact, then these federal judges just have to go

1529
01:30:28,119 --> 01:30:31,239
like they just have to be told, be quiet, we

1530
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:37,439
don't have the money. We can't just print the money. Yeah,

1531
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,680
you know, India and China is half the world's population

1532
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:44,479
put together. There's your Russia's got all the natural resources

1533
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,039
in the world. Bricks. If they stop trading in dollars,

1534
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,960
we're screwed. We can't just keep printing money. We have

1535
01:30:52,119 --> 01:30:55,039
to start actually living within our means in some sort

1536
01:30:55,079 --> 01:30:55,720
of meaningful way.

1537
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 3: When you talk about when when you talk about the

1538
01:31:01,359 --> 01:31:03,880
you can just do things. That's that's been both a

1539
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,520
hopeful phrase and an infuriating phrase to me. But I

1540
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,000
want to point I want to just touch on that

1541
01:31:09,159 --> 01:31:11,840
very very briefly, because to go back to your point

1542
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,760
earlier Pete about mess around and find out, I gave

1543
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,000
up swearing for Lentz, so so it's going to be

1544
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:20,880
mess around and find out America asked to take more

1545
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,920
of that attitude. And I agree with you, Pete, And

1546
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,840
I just want to say to point that out, to

1547
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,279
make that readily apparent to listeners. Remember what really stopped

1548
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:33,840
the Summer of Love and the George Floyd riots? Remember

1549
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,600
what really stopped it? Remember what really stopped that Soros

1550
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,840
funded brick throwing machine. It was one guy with an

1551
01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:43,680
AR fifteen. That's what stopped it.

1552
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 2: That's it.

1553
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 3: One guy because he shot two pet three Well what

1554
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,399
two Petter asks? Three Petter asks and killed them, like

1555
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,399
go killed two of them. I mean, that's really what

1556
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,279
stopped it. One guy because people messed around.

1557
01:31:58,039 --> 01:32:01,119
Speaker 2: And I felt like one wife beater and two chikay

1558
01:32:01,119 --> 01:32:04,439
I think, yeah or something.

1559
01:32:05,039 --> 01:32:07,159
Speaker 3: But the point I'm making is to Pete's statement, we

1560
01:32:07,279 --> 01:32:12,600
have to we have to bring actual, actual consequences to Pete,

1561
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,840
but legal consequences of course of self defense he was acquitted,

1562
01:32:16,359 --> 01:32:19,920
you know, or but law enforcement shootings things like that.

1563
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,479
But they have to return, and if they do again,

1564
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,239
I'll be my usual white pill pushing self. I think

1565
01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:30,479
you'll see a lot of things turn around if people

1566
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,880
are allowed to start defending themselves again and and dishing

1567
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,720
out consequences legally to people. I really think that things

1568
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,279
will turn around much faster than you would expect.

1569
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 2: And and actually to your point in went that that Charles,

1570
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,960
the thing that the thing that really needs to happen

1571
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:52,039
is the people at the prosecutor and the Daniel Penny case.

1572
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:57,319
They need to go to prison, yes, or abuse of power? Yeah,

1573
01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:01,079
oh absolutely, all those people need to be The courts

1574
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:03,279
need to be clean. It needs to be wiped clean.

1575
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,319
There's they cannot be. It can't be allowed to go

1576
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:11,079
on like this. I mean, if the president has, if

1577
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:13,760
all power is in the executive he has to be

1578
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,479
able to clean that out. And even if and even

1579
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,720
if everyone stands up and says no, you still have

1580
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,119
to be able to stand up and clean that out.

1581
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:23,039
Speaker 7: It just.

1582
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 1: We're I mean, it's a friggin we're going off the cliff.

1583
01:33:29,239 --> 01:33:30,279
Speaker 7: Yeah. Not only so.

1584
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,199
Speaker 2: I saw some of the recently a bunch of people,

1585
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,000
supposed conservatives talking about how you know the president can't

1586
01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:40,960
constrain money being spent by the other Like, don't tell

1587
01:33:41,039 --> 01:33:46,119
me you care about the constitution. Okay, it was recently,

1588
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,119
you know, March, it's March twenty seconds. Soll last week

1589
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:50,319
was the Eyes of March, March fifteenth, date of the

1590
01:33:50,319 --> 01:33:55,000
assassination of Julius Caesar. Well, you know, when I was

1591
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,840
more conservative and less understanding the way power actually works,

1592
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:02,640
I thought the Senate was like doing the right thing

1593
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:06,359
by often this dangerous dictator Like no, actually, Julius Caesar

1594
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,760
was trying to fix the dysfunctional system by cutting through

1595
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,159
the Gordian knot. And whether that's Naive bu Kelly or

1596
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:18,079
Victor orbon or whoever, or Donald Trump, what you need

1597
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,960
is energy in the executive to actually solve the problems

1598
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:27,359
in the UK. Right now, you have judges giving rapists

1599
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,680
three year sentences who and then they'll give nationalists who

1600
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,920
put up flyers five year sentences. Those judges need to

1601
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,039
be tossed out on their ear and then put in

1602
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,159
prison for abuse of power and destruction of their nation.

1603
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:47,640
American judges who give no you know, light sentences to

1604
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:52,720
criminals and then throw Americans in due legs for January sixth.

1605
01:34:53,039 --> 01:34:57,399
They need to go to prison. Non American judges who

1606
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:01,079
are immigrants who come here, you know, who are sexual

1607
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:04,880
perverts who are just against Donald Trump because he's a straight, heterosexual,

1608
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:10,640
white American and they're not. They need to go to prison.

1609
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,479
And this whole rule of law nonsense, Like, don't tell

1610
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,760
me about the rule of law. I remember twenty twenty.

1611
01:35:17,039 --> 01:35:19,439
You want to be unemployed, you wanted to be out

1612
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,000
of a job. You want to be out of my house.

1613
01:35:21,039 --> 01:35:22,840
You wanted my kids turned against me. You wanted to

1614
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,479
force to be vaccinate my children. You wanted to outlaw homeschooling,

1615
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,479
you wanted to outlaw private schools. And now you want

1616
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,880
to talk about the rules. You want to talk about

1617
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,760
the rules, Bro, You're the one who said jungle ball rules.

1618
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,960
I'm just the one saying, Okay, that's the way you

1619
01:35:41,039 --> 01:35:48,760
wanted to play. Don't ever let a leftist tommy scum

1620
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:53,079
tell you about well the rules. They're the ones who

1621
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:57,119
let negroes burn down half of America's major cities. They're

1622
01:35:57,159 --> 01:35:59,800
the reason. They're the reason you can't go in downtown

1623
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,039
of the American city and not step on human feces

1624
01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:09,279
and needles. Don't tell me about rules. Why are you

1625
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:18,079
quoting laws to me? I have swords, But rules are

1626
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:21,640
for games between people who agree to play a game.

1627
01:36:22,319 --> 01:36:23,720
Charles and I can sit down and have a game

1628
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,079
of chess. There are rules in chess. I can't just

1629
01:36:27,159 --> 01:36:29,239
suck Charles in the mouth when he takes my queen

1630
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:36,039
because it annoys me. Okay, but when you say, all right,

1631
01:36:36,119 --> 01:36:38,000
let's sit down to have a game of chess, and

1632
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:40,720
then oh, every time I take one of your pawns,

1633
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,319
I get to kill one of your kids. Oh, that's

1634
01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:50,600
not a game anymore. I get to impoverish you. Like, no,

1635
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,560
that's not how this works. You don't get to destroy

1636
01:36:53,680 --> 01:37:00,720
my country because you're resentful, you know, small souled non American.

1637
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,960
I'm sorry, you suck, and you're the place you come

1638
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,680
from sucks, and your people have a low genetic capability

1639
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:13,039
and mind. Don't sorry. I'm part Canadian, so I can't

1640
01:37:13,079 --> 01:37:17,039
help it. But like, that's not the way these things go.

1641
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,680
You can't weaponize the law against people for years and

1642
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,359
years and years at a time and then and then

1643
01:37:24,399 --> 01:37:30,159
be like ooh, the law is being violated. Charles can't swear, so,

1644
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:39,920
but I can't go fuck yourself. Thank you, Oz, you

1645
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:40,520
got anything?

1646
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:49,239
Speaker 7: Well, one thing that stuck out to be that Charles

1647
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:56,640
mentioned just how ridiculous the logic of forced integration has

1648
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,920
permeated to every facet of Americans, like look at the

1649
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:05,199
prison system. I like the fact that, in contrast to

1650
01:38:05,239 --> 01:38:08,880
the US model, the Saladorian model does make a difference

1651
01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:16,920
between having a separating the clear the clear cases of

1652
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,520
people that cannot be reformed, like these gang bangers, and

1653
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,640
from like the other common criminals who, Yeah, maybe some

1654
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,000
of them won't be reformed, but at least you can

1655
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,840
like put the rest that can be reformed to use

1656
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,239
for state purposes, for civital purposes. Because the way I

1657
01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:39,680
see prime, it is ultimately a societal issue. It's a

1658
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,840
sidal failure in many ways, not just like a question

1659
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,119
of like an individual messing up, because this individual's fuck

1660
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:50,840
ups is like a negative externality for the rest of society.

1661
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:54,920
So the state does have to take it upon itself

1662
01:38:55,039 --> 01:38:59,439
defined ways, especially now, creative ways to solve this issue.

1663
01:39:00,079 --> 01:39:03,159
And I think there is a lack of political imagination

1664
01:39:03,399 --> 01:39:07,359
with a lot of people across the political aisle because

1665
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:11,159
of the fact that their ideologies are informed by very

1666
01:39:11,239 --> 01:39:16,199
individualistic priors, and they don't really they don't really like

1667
01:39:16,399 --> 01:39:21,119
taking collective action because all these measures that El Salvador

1668
01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:24,880
is doing, even at the microcosmic level, they are forms

1669
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:30,039
of like micro collectivism that eventually sadbag into a cohesive

1670
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:33,439
national program. And I think with the case of Al Salvador,

1671
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,319
it also shows that it's something that we can emulate

1672
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:41,399
because as a as the maximum goes, big things sometimes

1673
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,239
come in small packages, and in El Salvador's case, it

1674
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:46,760
is a model to emulate.

1675
01:39:49,079 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, and I guess we'll wrap this

1676
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,600
up because getting into a new topic I'll take us

1677
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:01,399
into late into the night. But it all comes back

1678
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,479
to you what's been said a couple of times here.

1679
01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:09,520
You can just do things, and people with power can

1680
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,880
just do things. I mean, Boo Kelly showed that if

1681
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,279
you read any accounts of how he had, what he

1682
01:40:18,399 --> 01:40:21,479
had to do to get elected, and then what he

1683
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,840
had to do after he got elected just to be

1684
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:28,439
able to clean the country up, it's literally you.

1685
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:29,319
Speaker 2: Can just do things.

1686
01:40:30,039 --> 01:40:34,119
Speaker 1: Because what he did was well, i mean kind of

1687
01:40:34,319 --> 01:40:35,960
against their constitution.

1688
01:40:36,399 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 2: Or whatever.

1689
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,520
Speaker 1: The kind of thing they have down there is but

1690
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:46,560
desperate times, desperate measures, and I'm not so much of

1691
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,920
And this isn't me saying, first of all, I don't

1692
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,439
want people to think this is me saying Trump needs

1693
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,800
to be unleashed. I don't think Trump's the answer. I

1694
01:40:57,239 --> 01:41:01,560
just don't. I think he's the path somewhere, and I

1695
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,079
think it's going to be more local if you ask

1696
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:11,199
me personally what I think. But yeah, the time for

1697
01:41:12,359 --> 01:41:15,800
oh what does the law say? We really need to

1698
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:17,800
dig into these law books and figure out if this

1699
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,439
is legal, and maybe we need to run it by

1700
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:27,560
the courts. That time was gone thirty years ago. And

1701
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:32,600
the only person who is the only person or persons

1702
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:39,079
who is going to be able to reverse and nullify

1703
01:41:39,279 --> 01:41:42,840
everything that's happened is someone like bou Kelly who's just like,

1704
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,479
I don't care what the law says. I don't care

1705
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,920
if this council, how long this council has been in charge.

1706
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,800
I'm bringing these I'm bringing these soldiers in here with me,

1707
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:58,560
and we're going to do what we do, and we're

1708
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,439
going to turn this around. Because people can look at

1709
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,479
El Salvador and be like, well, they were the murder

1710
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:08,239
capital of the world. Now it's safer than Baltimore. Yeah,

1711
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:12,840
and now I literally felt safer walking around there. I

1712
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,479
wasn't looking behind me like I would be if I

1713
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:22,880
was in Baltimore or New York even Austin, Texas. I

1714
01:42:23,039 --> 01:42:28,760
wasn't looking behind me. I was like, Wow, this is incredible.

1715
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,720
People are just going about their lives and they're not

1716
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:37,279
worried about They're worried about one last thing getting killed,

1717
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:44,560
getting roughed up, getting robbed. And if we're going to

1718
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:48,159
clean up what's happening here and especially get rid of

1719
01:42:48,199 --> 01:42:48,640
the rot.

1720
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,520
Speaker 2: Fuck the law.

1721
01:42:53,359 --> 01:42:56,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I give up something else for lent. It wasn't

1722
01:42:56,159 --> 01:43:02,159
cursing fuck the law. I mean literally fuck the law.

1723
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,560
I don't care, you know, and I know people can

1724
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,960
you know, we we could go on a totally different

1725
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:13,079
tangent about you know, Trump is you know, you know,

1726
01:43:13,159 --> 01:43:16,199
it's just another fake gay jewop and everything like that.

1727
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:20,119
This isn't about him, This is about us, and it's

1728
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:24,039
not going I'm sorry, unless we get someone like Bukelly,

1729
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,640
it's not going to be changed on the national level.

1730
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,039
And I don't even know that it can be changed

1731
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:32,039
on the national level with as big as we are

1732
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:38,039
and as multicultural as we are and multi racial as

1733
01:43:38,119 --> 01:43:41,159
we are, when you have three hundred and fifty closing

1734
01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:44,119
and I'm probably on four hundred million people now, So

1735
01:43:44,319 --> 01:43:47,800
it's got to be something else, and it's not going

1736
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,920
to look like what you're you know what the typical

1737
01:43:51,039 --> 01:43:56,880
boomer con wants. I'm sorry, It's going to be something else.

1738
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:02,000
Anybody can well, I'd love to for just a second.

1739
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,720
So the average Mumorican is still caring about liberty and

1740
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:10,560
liberty within what And there's been an interesting discussion I

1741
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,600
don't want to take either side of between Joel Davis

1742
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:18,479
and Keith Woods about a certain mustache man and then

1743
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,079
the necessity of either embracing or rejecting that mustache man.

1744
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,239
But I just I do want to bring something up

1745
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:26,800
that I've talked about before, and that is that Nabu

1746
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,680
Kelly is being called, you know, a national socialist except

1747
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,880
on the pejoraty of term, and he's being called a dictator,

1748
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,680
and he's being called a fascist, and in a very

1749
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:38,760
real sense, you know what Thomas says is true. Right

1750
01:44:39,279 --> 01:44:42,479
after nineteen forty five, it became illegal to be effective,

1751
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,840
or became legally right wing, and any kind of effective

1752
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:51,159
governance at all, whether it's just like not paying people

1753
01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:56,800
who shouldn't be paid, or throwing criminals in jail, or

1754
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:02,520
enforcing the border or anything, is going to be called fascism.

1755
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,239
And you just have to step over that and say, yeah,

1756
01:45:07,399 --> 01:45:17,079
and so what, because there's there's no society today anywhere

1757
01:45:17,079 --> 01:45:23,720
in the world, especially white countries, where ethnic incoherence and

1758
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:31,840
massive structural economic problems and crime isn't a problem or

1759
01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:34,760
or intipiately a problem. Like you can say, well, Poland

1760
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:39,800
is safe, they don't have crime, like yeah, but how

1761
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,640
quickly could a bunch of Muslims come from Germany into

1762
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,600
Poland and just start wrecking stuff? Like pretty easily. There's

1763
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,159
nowhere in the world where you can just be isolated

1764
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:53,359
from major problems. You can't run away from it anymore.

1765
01:45:55,159 --> 01:46:00,640
You know, jet planes get can and people parasites will

1766
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,920
go from a non functioning place to a functional place

1767
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,439
and just show up anytime.

1768
01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:11,079
Speaker 2: You see it. You see it with all the people

1769
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:13,439
coming to Germany, all the people coming to different countries

1770
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:20,079
in Europe. You see it with people leaving leaving California,

1771
01:46:20,279 --> 01:46:25,079
right like there are people who just want to live

1772
01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:27,880
someplace nice, and it doesn't matter to them what their

1773
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,760
choices are that that might have gotten them in the

1774
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,279
place that that it is that way, they just want

1775
01:46:33,319 --> 01:46:36,920
to live someplace nice. You see it all over Montana,

1776
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,279
you see it all over Idaho, you see it all

1777
01:46:40,279 --> 01:46:45,199
over Washington, you see it all over Tennessee. People coming

1778
01:46:45,239 --> 01:46:50,359
down from Michigan, people coming down from other states in

1779
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:56,640
the northeast. So instead of arguing about how you're not

1780
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,439
really a fascist because you disagree with you know this,

1781
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:05,279
this point seven of Mussolini's doctor you know points or whatever, right,

1782
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,960
we can have that discussion amongst ourselves about Moseley and

1783
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:14,680
Franco and Mussolini and mustache Man Salas are whatever. Like

1784
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,600
that's a discussion for serious people to have at a

1785
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,600
later date, to like thrash out whatever differences we men

1786
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,600
have between various different flavors of right wing authoritarian regimes.

1787
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:33,920
It doesn't matter right now, this very second what the

1788
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,800
people who are against Buchele or who are trying to

1789
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:41,119
stop whatever measures Donald Trump is trying to do. You

1790
01:47:41,399 --> 01:47:46,239
just have to step over those people because they want

1791
01:47:46,359 --> 01:47:49,039
the system not to work. They want your children to

1792
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:52,119
be broke, They want them to grow in a non

1793
01:47:52,159 --> 01:47:56,680
functioning society with no public schools. They want them to

1794
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,640
not have parks and not have safe places to be.

1795
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:01,840
They want your wife's actually harassed in her way in

1796
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:06,560
and out of the grocery store. They want you to

1797
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:12,760
have to pack heat everywhere you go just so you

1798
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:20,079
can get in and out of your truck. And Okay,

1799
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:21,399
if that's the way we have to play, I guess

1800
01:48:21,399 --> 01:48:24,159
I'll do it, but I don't I don't want. I

1801
01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:28,720
don't mind playing those by those rules, but there are

1802
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,880
people who aren't cut out for it, and they shouldn't

1803
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:31,079
have to.

1804
01:48:32,359 --> 01:48:36,279
Speaker 1: You want to say anything to close out, Charles, I

1805
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:38,000
think we're we're at that stage.

1806
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, just a couple of minor points, thank you,

1807
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,520
Pete one. I want to just touch back on something

1808
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,600
jose had said a while back in the in the broadcast,

1809
01:48:48,359 --> 01:48:52,199
when he had said earlier about how keep posting the

1810
01:48:52,279 --> 01:48:55,079
blog post or whatever, keep putting new ideas out there.

1811
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,960
I want to dovetail that with with D's point about

1812
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,680
our side. It is the only side that has anything

1813
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,159
good and has had anything good for quite a while.

1814
01:49:06,199 --> 01:49:08,640
I won't say forever, because I do think the left

1815
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,000
had some good ideas somewhere in the past, but for

1816
01:49:11,159 --> 01:49:15,560
now and for the recent past, it hasn't had anything

1817
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,279
for quite some time. So always put your ideas out there.

1818
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,239
You never know who's going to pick them up and

1819
01:49:22,399 --> 01:49:25,000
how far they're going to run with them. And although

1820
01:49:25,039 --> 01:49:28,199
he was not a political figure, the author HP Lovecraft

1821
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:33,319
died so poor as to be reusing raise safety raizors

1822
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:37,359
to shave. He died with a few sticks of furniture

1823
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,680
and nothing to show for all of his efforts. If, however,

1824
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,479
he was still alive today and had the copyrights to

1825
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,840
all of his work, he'd be a billionaire. But you

1826
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,479
never know what's going what you're going to put out

1827
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,680
there in the world, and you never know how long

1828
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,000
it's going to take other people to catch on to it,

1829
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,520
and you never know how far it's going to be taken,

1830
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:01,640
or how many people are going to grab hold of

1831
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,119
it and love it and cherish it and value it.

1832
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:10,119
So never ever stop doing something. And lastly, I'll close

1833
01:50:10,199 --> 01:50:15,239
with this, there was somebody that said to you, Pete

1834
01:50:15,319 --> 01:50:19,319
in a comment on Twitter, Oh, I didn't realize Charles

1835
01:50:19,399 --> 01:50:22,119
had said everything all the time. First always it was

1836
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:24,560
kind of snarky, but I laughed it off, and I

1837
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,000
got to say, like the reason I laughed and I

1838
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:29,359
kind of appreciate it, And in a way I actually

1839
01:50:29,359 --> 01:50:32,279
took it as a backhanded compliment because I've been doing

1840
01:50:32,319 --> 01:50:35,640
stuff like this for thirty thirty five years. I'm in

1841
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,359
person at college all all sorts of things. I've tried

1842
01:50:39,399 --> 01:50:44,600
everything from screenwriting to guitar playing to stand up comedy.

1843
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,359
I've done a lot of stuff. So all this is

1844
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,520
to say, not talk myself up, but it's just to

1845
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,159
say this, guys, you can just do things. And the

1846
01:50:53,239 --> 01:50:57,680
reason that phrase maddens me is you always could. You

1847
01:50:58,039 --> 01:51:01,439
always could. If you want to do something, go do it.

1848
01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:04,920
Ask now not calling you to break the law to

1849
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,880
hurt people, But what I am calling you to do

1850
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:10,039
is someone that masculine bravery.

1851
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 2: Just do it.

1852
01:51:12,079 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 3: And you know what, somebody wants you to stop, make

1853
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,119
them tell you. And I'll close with this last moment,

1854
01:51:18,319 --> 01:51:22,760
this last point. One factor has guided my life and

1855
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,600
I have never regretted this, if only one thing, I've

1856
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:30,199
never regretted living by this. It is better to beg

1857
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:37,199
forgiveness than to ask permission. God bless everybody, and Pete

1858
01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:39,000
once again, thank you for having me on your program.

1859
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Of course, Ose, I want to close out saying anything

1860
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:46,880
and do plugs whatever.

1861
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 7: Yes, one thing I've stressed that we are in we

1862
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,800
need to go and reconquista mode in the sense that

1863
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,359
perhaps a good deal the changes that we envision for

1864
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,920
society are not going to happen in our lifetime or

1865
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,600
in honestly many lifetimes, possibly centuries from now. But it's

1866
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:12,520
still worth fighting because I want to be on my

1867
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,159
deathbed knowing that I put in one hundred percent of

1868
01:52:16,279 --> 01:52:20,560
my effort towards making the polity I live in a

1869
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:26,199
better place, and knowing that the knowledge I accumulated and

1870
01:52:26,359 --> 01:52:30,920
the experiences I've accumulated as well have been passed on

1871
01:52:31,039 --> 01:52:34,159
the future generations to continue that same fight. And I

1872
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:37,359
think people need to have that in mind, because our

1873
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:41,359
society has programmed us to go for instant gratification and

1874
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:45,560
instant results, and oftentimes that is a siren song for

1875
01:52:46,079 --> 01:52:49,680
all sorts of other problems. But yeah, if you want

1876
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:54,359
to continue follow my content, I'm on substack hose Ninho

1877
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:59,439
unfiltered at josbcf dot subseat dot com, and then I'm

1878
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,479
also on on x Slash, Twitter, at Jose al Nino,

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do you do your.

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Speaker 1: Plugs and if you want to, if you had a

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last comment or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Not fundamental principle and substack and telegram. I just want

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to say thanks to you Pete for having me on

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UH Folks by Charles Books. Jose was kind enough to

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have me on his show a couple of weeks back.

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You know, go to premandly be on the wall. Slash

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support if you're kind enough to, if you feel compelled,

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you can done it to me on gum Road and

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a few other places. But you know, support the people

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that are doing this full time, like Jose, like Pete,

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because you're not gonna hear a conversation like this anywhere else.

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And I truly believe as small as this is, these

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these efforts are building an avalanche all over the world

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and it's an honor to be part of it. And

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so thank you for having me Pete.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and thank all of you. Thank all of

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you for taking time to come and talk to me

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basically about my vacation, which which I think before I

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even before I even went on it, I think we

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we said we would postpone any kind of episode until

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after because we knew that it would be the kind

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of conversation like we just had, and I'm glad we

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did so. Thank you and till the next time, Thank you, gentlemen.

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