WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:00.160 Hi. 2 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.080 I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologist, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part 3 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:08.880 of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. I've spent my entire 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.519 life exploring the planet's wildest, most remote places in search 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.280 of the extraordinary, and now I'm inviting you to join me. 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.960 Introducing the Explorer Society, a global community of curious minds, 7 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.760 truth seekers, and adventures where we dive into the unknown, 8 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.160 from elusive creatures like Bigfoot, to the frontiers of science, 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.679 nature and unexplained phenomena. 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Something just kid with my dog, something killed 42 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:19.080 your dog, my dog. We're flying through the or over 43 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:23.919 the tree. I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, 44 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.439 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 45 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.080 over the fence. The name was dead and when you 46 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.039 hit the ground. I didn't a seen any cars. All 47 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:48.840 I saw was my dog coming over the fence. What 48 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:53.479 are you reporting? We got some wonder or something falling 49 00:02:53.520 --> 00:03:03.840 around out here? Did you see what it was? I'm 50 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.319 out here looking them through the window now and I 51 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.919 don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Indeed, 52 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:15.800 its white carew York. Hello, get somebody out here. What's 53 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:16.520 going on out there? 54 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:17.000 Let's got a. 55 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.479 Litle bit of about sect for nine. I don't know. 56 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.000 Do you see him out there? Yeah? I'm walking right away. 57 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.240 Oh thanks for joining me, spread Alaska. What I wanted 58 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.400 to share with you today comes from Kim and Joshua. 59 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:32.400 They're in their mid fifties. For many years now, they 60 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.360 would float the McLaren River down to the Sissittina River 61 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.199 south of the d Naley Highway. They had little pontoon 62 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.199 rafts with their oars and stuff, and they would just 63 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.159 trout fish, just do their thing, just to guys. No 64 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:47.840 real set agenda hunting, fishing, or otherwise. They just wrap 65 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.400 the river. They would pull out near or the mouth 66 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.240 of the McLaren meets up with the Susitino on these 67 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.479 gravel bars. They've been doing this for years. It was 68 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:03.400 mid June. They were on their annual trip and they 69 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:08.080 would usually be gone about five days. They would start. 70 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:12.120 They would leave home on a Sunday. Josh, since their 71 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.159 last trip, had moved out of state, had met a woman. 72 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.720 Her name is Candace. They became engaged. Where Candace was 73 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:23.040 from in Utah. She was bragging about the natural beauty. 74 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.120 Josh said, you need to come to Alaska and check 75 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.240 it out. He brought her up. We have Tim, Joshua 76 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.959 and Candace. They get out there. They thought it was 77 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.120 odd there wasn't a whole lot of people, But they 78 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.000 weren't totally surprised because they were kind of early, as 79 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.040 they put it, for everyone else, because a lot of 80 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.920 people got there mainly when it's hunting season and then 81 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.079 the whole area is is flooded. They raft, they do 82 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.839 their thing. One of the things that stood out to 83 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:53.920 Tim was he said, the whole trip floating down. Something 84 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.560 just seemed off, just totally off and he couldn't put 85 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.319 his finger on it. And Josh had mentioned that had 86 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.319 a more eerie vibe this particular trip. And they've done 87 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:07.279 this trip, gosh a lot of times, at least a 88 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.160 dozen that they could think of, probably a few more 89 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.600 than that. So they get down and as they're getting 90 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.839 closer to the area where they're going to pull out 91 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.160 and just camp and then they do their fishing from 92 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.079 the gravel bar and all that kind of stuff. Just 93 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.800 a great time. Initially they're floating river. Tim is on 94 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.040 his little pontoon with the two oars, just man's size 95 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.240 and not the big ones, just a small, one person size, 96 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.399 and Josh had his, but behind the seat on Josh 97 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.800 Is he had a cooler strap down and that's where 98 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.480 Candace sat. So they were a little wonky in the water, 99 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.439 but they did just fine. So they get down to 100 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.040 this area and they pull the rafts out and all 101 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.519 that kind of stuff. They set up camp the same 102 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.839 place they set up camp several times all throughout. This 103 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:55.160 particular area is where they would pull out beautiful scenery 104 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.399 around them and all that stuff, natural beauty. It was 105 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.600 just one of their favorite places. They get everything pulled out, 106 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:05.519 they get camp set up and it's mid dayish land 107 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.959 of the midnight sun. It's strange when you deal with 108 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.759 it in person. So it's new to Candas and she 109 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.240 was in awe. And so once they set up their 110 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.240 kents and stuff, josh is like, hey, I'm taking Candice. 111 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.199 We're gonna go walk the gravel bar and search around. 112 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.959 Just look around, see if there's anything happening. So as 113 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.680 they do, Tim just stayed at camp. He was doing 114 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.319 his thing. He was going to do some fishing and whatnot. 115 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.680 So josh and Candace take off from camp. They head 116 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:37.199 back towards the south. They cut through a little bit 117 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:39.920 of a drainage from overflow from the ice and stuff, 118 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.480 and it was dried up and they walked through there 119 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.600 and as they're going along, they come back around and 120 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.519 they're gonna hook back around, basically getting the lay of 121 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.360 the land and pointing out stuff for Candas. And Joshua said, 122 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.319 we got back to the back side to the south 123 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.800 and they're parallel with the Susitna River facing south. They 124 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.480 heard a scream. The scream was coming from maybe one 125 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.319 hundred and fifty yards up into the trees because from 126 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.399 their vantage point, it started sloping up, and it goes 127 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.319 up to twenty four hundred feet rather quickly. It was 128 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.959 like a butte the mountain there. So as they hear 129 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.959 the scream, cannices that grabbing a hole of Josh's arm. 130 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.319 What the hell is that? He said? It was dual octave. 131 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.480 It was very low but high pitched, and they were 132 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.879 both just synchronized and loud. So Josh was taken aback 133 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.560 because they had heard weird things over the years, but 134 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.279 not quite like this. The other stuff they heard, he 135 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.079 equated it to probably coyotes or some other mammal. He 136 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.560 was unaware of their scream or their call. Left it alone. 137 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:45.879 They were in shock over it because how loud it 138 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.399 was and it seemed projected at them. They didn't panic, 139 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.120 they didn't freak out. Josh was armed, he said. Initially 140 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:55.639 he was just wow. That was really intense. And so 141 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.040 they circled back around the gravel bar. He got brush 142 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.240 growing and stuff like that. But they get back around 143 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.000 to camp and as they get to camp, I'll pick 144 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:06.040 up from Tim's side of it. 145 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:06.279 Right. 146 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:10.560 So, as Tim was doing his thing sitting there at camp, 147 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.920 Basically he was heating up some stuff to make a 148 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.079 lunch and also to heat up some tea. And as 149 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.360 he was sitting there, he heard the scream as well, 150 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:24.279 but from his vantage point, he's facing the opposite direction. 151 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.439 There's brush behind him. Joshua and Candis are on the 152 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.920 opposite side of that, south of him, and he's facing north, 153 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.480 he said, out of the blue. As he was sitting there, 154 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.799 he heard that scream. After he heard the scream, he 155 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:40.879 stood up and he looked around to make sure his 156 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.000 shotgun was right nearby, and he's looking and he was 157 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.080 that was the oddest sound because he heard exactly what 158 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:51.080 Cannie and josh did, just reverberating around him, directly across 159 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.519 the river. He heard a very weird chirping noise, a 160 00:08:55.639 --> 00:09:00.519 very loud chirping, and it was not natural, he said. 161 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:04.360 Immediately his hair stood up on end, and he just 162 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:08.080 slowly reached down, grabbed the shotgun and was looking towards 163 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.120 the direction of this chirping sound as he's standing there 164 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:15.080 facing that way, Because he said, he was basically transfixed, 165 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:19.399 just staring, waiting for whatever to make more noise, signs 166 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.600 of movement, whatever it may be. As that's going on, 167 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.000 he didn't realize how much time had passed, but enough 168 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.440 time had passed where Josh and Cannis all of a 169 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.320 sudden a coming back up on camp and they see 170 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.600 Tim standing there holding the shotgun looking across. Josh asked him, hey, 171 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.440 you heard what we heard, and he was like, I 172 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.159 heard something behind me, but then I heard weird chirping 173 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.840 across the way there, Josh said. When he said that, 174 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.320 he looks over, Cannis is really freaking out, and so 175 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:50.519 he tries to conver down. Oh, we hear strange noises, 176 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.720 No big deal, and she goes that scream was real odd. 177 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:57.320 They calmed things down. They settled back down into camp, 178 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:00.919 which was really very hard to do because Tim said 179 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:05.120 that it struck him really hardcore to where his hair 180 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.279 was standing up and he had never had that hap 181 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.879 and even seen bears all the time, and so he 182 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.000 took it very serious. What's causing this? So as they're 183 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.320 sitting there, he finishes up to lunch thing and the 184 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:17.320 tea and they're all sitting there talking in a circle 185 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.120 on their little fold out chairs. Josh and Candace had 186 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:24.200 their back to the brush behind them. Their backs are 187 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.279 facing south and they're facing Tim, who's facing back towards 188 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.720 among the opposite side of their little campfire. He's directly 189 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.240 north to them, and they're looking past him on the 190 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.279 other river bank side. And as they're sitting there talking, 191 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.120 Kennice jumps up in points. Now when she jumps up 192 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:44.159 in points, Tim jumps up, turns around. Josh is already 193 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.600 halfway standing up. As Tim turns around, they're all looking 194 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.919 and they're not seeing what she saw. She tells them, hey, 195 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.559 there's something very dark moving over there in that brush. 196 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:55.960 You could hear it. And so they stop a second 197 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:59.360 because they're near the river, so there's other noises going on. 198 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.440 But she picked up on the noise and they listened 199 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:03.919 for a second and then they caught onto it too. 200 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.799 You could hear the brush moving. Then they saw some 201 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:10.080 of the brush moving around right. So Tim grabs a 202 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.799 shotgun again. Josh had his pistol on his hip, but 203 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.120 he didn't even unholster it because Tim's right there the shotgun. 204 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.399 They listened for a while and it goes quiet. Noise stops. 205 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.799 Things calm down and they sit back down. They finish 206 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:28.360 what they were doing, and Josh took the small bowls 207 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.360 and stuff went over the river to wash them out. 208 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:32.440 Being bear safe and all that he was sitting there 209 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.399 washing everything out. As Tim put it, him and Candice 210 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.960 were sitting there at the campfire and she kept talking 211 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.080 about that scream and Tim was like, yeah, I heard 212 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.840 it and it was very odd. And as they're having 213 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.679 this discussion, they hear the scream again, but this time 214 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.480 it sounds like it's directly behind the brush behind them. 215 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.440 They're like, what the hell, because again it reverberated around, 216 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.320 so it sounded like it was coming from back behind 217 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:01.000 the brush. That immediately got Josh attention because he was 218 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.000 just finishing up what he was doing. He comes back 219 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.679 over and tells Tim and Candas, Hey, let's go back 220 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.399 around there and see if we can see whatever's making 221 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.240 this noise, because it's creeping me the hell out. So 222 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.440 they all agreed. Kim took the lead, Josh was right 223 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.360 behind with Candace directly behind him, and they basically retrace 224 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.399 Josh and Candace's path back around to the backside. Now, 225 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:26.919 when they got around to the back side, and Tim 226 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.080 was telling Josh it sounded like it was coming from 227 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.039 over here. As he was saying that, right in the 228 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.159 middle of saying that to him, they hear brush move 229 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.480 off to their left from that little island of brush, 230 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.159 and they're camped directly on the opposite side of it, right, 231 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.480 So they hear this movement in the brush, and immediately 232 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.039 Tim's pointing shot in that direction. Josh draws his fire, 233 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:51.039 and they're looking and following the sound with their ears 234 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.919 and their eyes, trying to figure out where it's moving 235 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.279 to right because there's a little bit of wind, but 236 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.440 there's definitely chomping and crashing through this brush that's just 237 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:03.240 right off to their left hand side. Tim said, let's 238 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.120 back up. Let's back up, because he's thinking bear, right, 239 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:09.240 and the bear must have been drawn in with the 240 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.200 smell of the food cooking, and then the food meal 241 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:15.039 dissipateds was probably coming back out to leave the area. 242 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.600 It probably winded us. Let's give it room. So as 243 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.200 they back up, they're down the gravel bar a little 244 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.200 ways and they're looking back at the brush, and as 245 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.679 they're doing so, all of a sudden, this dark figure 246 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.799 less than one hundred yards away takes off bolts from 247 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.799 almost directly in front of them in the brush, bolts 248 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.919 to their right like a sprinter, And they said it 249 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.720 was big, it was skinny, and they couldn't really make 250 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.039 out much because it just took off, and the way 251 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.799 it was moving it looked real awkward, but it was booking, 252 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.320 and it just crossed and went up into the brush, 253 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.360 back up towards the sound where the original scream had 254 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:55.480 come from, real fast. Tim said he followed it with 255 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:57.799 the shotgun, but he was still behind it. He wasn't 256 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.039 gonna shoot it. It was just a natural reaction and 257 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:02.320 something starts moving like that, and so they watch it 258 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.679 take off up into the trees, and so they all 259 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.039 look at each other. Did we all just see this? Josh? 260 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.480 It heard stuff about the hairy Man in the past, 261 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:12.360 but it was like people just been out in the 262 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.759 woods too long or whatever, seeing what they want to see. 263 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.759 But after that thing ran across, there was no denying 264 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.399 in his mind. There's definitely something going on here. So 265 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.080 after a moment or two and they're having a discussion 266 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.360 about how fast it moved and how crazy it was 267 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:32.559 or whatever, they retreat back to camp. Now, when they 268 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:34.799 get back to camp, Kenna says, I have a very 269 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.440 bad feeling. I don't want to be here, Tim agres, 270 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:42.840 and so does Josh. But because of what they had 271 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.039 planned going on, they didn't want to not be in 272 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:48.919 the area where one of their friends usually picks them 273 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.679 up in a boat via the siussit in a river, 274 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:55.279 So when they their pick up would come up and 275 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.960 pick them up, and they would deflate their little rafts 276 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:59.679 and they would put it in their friends twenty two 277 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.639 foot boat. They had a system laid out to where 278 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.159 they could put it all in there and just motorn out. 279 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.600 Of there and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to 280 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:09.679 see We'll be right back. 281 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:17.240 After these messages at the end of their trip, so 282 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:21.879 they had two more days to kill for this particular trip, 283 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.960 so their ride wasn't coming for two more days, and 284 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.200 they were in a conundrum. Do we float out of here, 285 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.279 do we stay here and wait? Do we move camp? 286 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.440 They went through all these options and they decided they're 287 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:39.399 just gonna keep camp where it's at, which they later regret. 288 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.480 So as all this discussion is going on, Candace said 289 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.440 that she kept feeling like she was being watched, but 290 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:49.879 not from what ran off behind them, but from whatever 291 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.120 is making that noise across the river. She just kept 292 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:56.480 scenting like she was being focused on Tim and Josh. 293 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.679 They had said, because I brought it up when Candice 294 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.120 was feeling this, was there any straight anteress with you guys? 295 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.279 They were just like, outside of the craziness we just 296 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.799 saw it just seemed normal. I didn't feel like we're 297 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.919 being watched or whatever. So it goes on into evening 298 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.639 time later. The way they had their tents set up. 299 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.720 During that time, what Tim did was he went and 300 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.960 cut a bunch of these alders and started weaving them 301 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.120 in between the other alders to make a makeshift kind 302 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.399 of bushcraft woven kind of thing to where it was 303 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.879 a barrier to the backside of their tents. So when 304 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.080 they were sleeping, if anything came in, there was a 305 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.879 kind of barrier. Even though it wouldn't have stopped much. 306 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:43.399 It was just peace of mind mainly. And so they 307 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:46.159 call it a night after that because they decided that 308 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.120 in the morning they're gonna get up and just wrapped 309 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.639 on out of there and they'll just float to Susitna. 310 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.200 Tim had one of those garment in reaches and he 311 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.799 was just going to plan on sending his friend with 312 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.919 the Bodha text saying Hey, we're going to float down. 313 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.559 This is Sittina, Please meet us at your soonest availability. 314 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:02.919 And they were just going to get out of the 315 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:07.720 area basically, so they trumps off to bed and that 316 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.759 night again Atlanta. At the midnight suner doesn't get overly dark. 317 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:14.960 Candish and Josh were having a hard time sleeping because 318 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.559 Candace kept tossing and turning and was just really freaked out. 319 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.519 She had a very unsettling feeling. Josh was picking up 320 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.960 on her vibe, and he wasn't doing too well either 321 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.160 as far as listening. And the wind would blow and 322 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.119 they would think they would hear something, but then they 323 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.640 would explain it away as the wind. Meanwhile, in the 324 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.039 tip next to him, Tim he's hearing the same things. 325 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.680 Tim hears a very weird kind of gibberish sound, like 326 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.759 someone talking behind his tit, behind that little brush wall 327 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.359 he tried to build. He keeps hearing it over and 328 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:50.880 over and it was in whispered tones. But he knew 329 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.200 what he was hearing, because I know I'm not going crazy. 330 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.680 I know what I'm hearing. So at a certain point 331 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:57.599 he gets out of his tit and he could hear 332 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:01.960 Candison Josh speaking. He says, Hey, there's noises going on 333 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.839 out here, you guys, So they all get out. Josh 334 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:09.480 and Tim are ormed. They decide, hey, let's go and 335 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.279 see what the hell this noise is is freaking me out. 336 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.000 The underbrush at this point is pretty dark. It's still 337 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.839 real light out up in the sky, but it's very 338 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.920 dark and shadowy in the brush. Tim said that as 339 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.720 they walked around his timp, because on that side there 340 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.400 was a small game show that cut just behind this 341 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.559 barrier he put. So they had to go around the 342 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.240 makeshift barrier to get onto this little game trail to 343 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:37.759 go back in there and look. Now, he says, he 344 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:39.960 doesn't know what possessed him to want to walk back 345 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.839 there to look, but it was just sheer curiosity. Now, 346 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:46.759 when they get back around there, I grant you, they've 347 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.839 just seen this thing hours before run from that same 348 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.599 set of brush back across on up. So as he's 349 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.480 going around and they get he said, maybe fifty feet 350 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.480 down this trail, which is real hard to get through 351 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.839 because it was just getty noodles. There was this stuff 352 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:04.640 interwoven everywhere, and it was real hard to get through there. 353 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:07.720 They get about fifty feet back and Tim says he's 354 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.960 seeing a dark shadow moving through the brush silently. He 355 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.119 was blown away because they were making all sorts of noise, 356 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.160 trying to just get fifty feet and this thing is 357 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:21.279 just seamlessly moving from right to left. And he's just 358 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.480 awestruck at this movement. So he squashed down and he's pointing, 359 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:25.799 he's pointing. He's like, do you see it? Do you 360 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:30.480 see it? Tim was like, let's go. Josh, standing behind him, 361 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.400 said yes, I agree, let's go. I see it. So 362 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:37.200 they start backing out. Josh grabs Kennis's arm because he 363 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:39.079 wanted to hold on to her, and says, back out, 364 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.000 you lead us out backwards. We're going to keep an 365 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.839 eye on this thing, and so she does. So she's 366 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.880 just following the same way they went fifty feet and 367 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:47.720 then they come around the little brush thing and then 368 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:49.759 there's their tents. When they got to the point where 369 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.640 they're coming around the brush pile, Tim tried to make 370 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.000 because a barrier a scream reverberates do all of them 371 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.440 just sharp, high pitched, but with the low tony you 372 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.559 could barely hear. It shocked the hell out of him. 373 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.160 When the scream happened, Tim emptied his shotgun into the 374 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.640 brush into the direction of that scream boom. He let 375 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.279 off all six shots, they pour out of there. They 376 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:17.400 were freaked out. They ran out past the tent. Tim 377 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.000 was sitting there, running in the rear trying to reload 378 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.000 his shotgun as fast as he could, and Josh had 379 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.079 his pistol out, and they run out onto the gravel 380 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:29.279 bar between where their camp was and where the rafts 381 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.079 were sitting. And they were standing there because it was 382 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.319 an open area. It was light enough out there, and 383 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:38.400 they were looking back at the brush right. So once 384 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.759 Tim was reloaded and Josh and they were all panting 385 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.240 real hard and freaked out, and Cannice was trembling and 386 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.559 crying because it was as scary as hell. They said 387 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.000 that scream was so high pitched that had they not 388 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.279 had stuff in their hairs and everything like that, they 389 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.720 wanted to cover their ears. They felt it in their bodies. 390 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.559 And so they stand there and they hear movement back 391 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.359 behind this little barrier that he had put up earlier, 392 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.759 and it was just crashing and thrashing, and then all 393 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.359 of a sudden, this low groan that seen the last 394 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:11.200 thirty seconds on one single kind of octave that went on, 395 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.799 and there are just what the hell is that? Right 396 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.759 after that noise goes away and fades away. They all 397 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:20.079 look at each other, what the hell is going on here? 398 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:23.000 All of a sudden, that little barrier behind the tents, 399 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.839 which was about six feet back from the tents, All 400 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.119 of a sudden, all that whole wall of brush that 401 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:31.640