Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologist, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part
Speaker 2: of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. I've spent my entire
Speaker 2: life exploring the planet's wildest, most remote places in search
Speaker 2: of the extraordinary, and now I'm inviting you to join me.
Speaker 2: Introducing the Explorer Society, a global community of curious minds,
Speaker 2: truth seekers, and adventures where we dive into the unknown,
Speaker 2: from elusive creatures like Bigfoot, to the frontiers of science,
Speaker 2: nature and unexplained phenomena. Live q and as and roundtable discussions,
Speaker 2: especial guest interviews including the Expedition Bigfoot team, Dave Schrader,
Speaker 2: Cliff Berrickman plus Josh Gates, Jack Osborne and many more.
Speaker 2: On demand streaming content, invites to exclusive events and conferences
Speaker 2: around the world, Explore Society swag, and even the chance
Speaker 2: to join us on a real life expedition. Come explore
Speaker 2: with me. Let's discover what's out there. Join Explorer Society
Speaker 2: at Mariameyer dot com.
Speaker 3: Today, I want to tell you about a journey that
Speaker 3: I've been on for most of my life. Ever since
Speaker 3: I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and
Speaker 3: wild men, while spending time with my friends and family.
Speaker 3: As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,
Speaker 3: my interest in cryptids and other things strange only deepened.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm so excited to share with you what
Speaker 3: I've personally become involved with The Untold Radio Network. The
Speaker 3: Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that
Speaker 3: airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube,
Speaker 3: and more. They have eight different shows on all sorts
Speaker 3: of exciting topics such as bigfoot, cryptids, UFOs, aliens, and
Speaker 3: much more. I even have my own show called Weird Encounters,
Speaker 3: where I talk about all things strange. This is more
Speaker 3: than just a podcast network. It's a community that allows
Speaker 3: me to meet so many amazing people who share their
Speaker 3: stories and experiences with strange. If you're interested in hearing
Speaker 3: more of these stories and learning more about the paranormal
Speaker 3: and cryptids, make sure you check out the Untold Old
Speaker 3: Radio Network for all kinds of exciting shows.
Speaker 4: It's free to subscribe.
Speaker 3: So what are you waiting for? Visit www dot untold
Speaker 3: radionetwork dot com today.
Speaker 5: I want one you reporting. I got a screen going
Speaker 5: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something killed
Speaker 5: your dog, my dog. We're flying through the or over
Speaker 5: the tree. I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn,
Speaker 5: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 5: over the fence. The name was dead and when you
Speaker 5: hit the ground. I didn't a seen any cars. All
Speaker 5: I saw was my dog coming over the fence. What
Speaker 5: are you reporting? We got some wonder or something falling
Speaker 5: around out here? Did you see what it was? I'm
Speaker 5: out here looking them through the window now and I
Speaker 5: don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Indeed,
Speaker 5: its white carew York. Hello, get somebody out here. What's
Speaker 5: going on out there?
Speaker 1: Let's got a.
Speaker 5: Litle bit of about sect for nine. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Do you see him out there? Yeah? I'm walking right away.
Speaker 4: Oh thanks for joining me, spread Alaska. What I wanted
Speaker 4: to share with you today comes from Kim and Joshua.
Speaker 4: They're in their mid fifties. For many years now, they
Speaker 4: would float the McLaren River down to the Sissittina River
Speaker 4: south of the d Naley Highway. They had little pontoon
Speaker 4: rafts with their oars and stuff, and they would just
Speaker 4: trout fish, just do their thing, just to guys. No
Speaker 4: real set agenda hunting, fishing, or otherwise. They just wrap
Speaker 4: the river. They would pull out near or the mouth
Speaker 4: of the McLaren meets up with the Susitino on these
Speaker 4: gravel bars. They've been doing this for years. It was
Speaker 4: mid June. They were on their annual trip and they
Speaker 4: would usually be gone about five days. They would start.
Speaker 4: They would leave home on a Sunday. Josh, since their
Speaker 4: last trip, had moved out of state, had met a woman.
Speaker 4: Her name is Candace. They became engaged. Where Candace was
Speaker 4: from in Utah. She was bragging about the natural beauty.
Speaker 4: Josh said, you need to come to Alaska and check
Speaker 4: it out. He brought her up. We have Tim, Joshua
Speaker 4: and Candace. They get out there. They thought it was
Speaker 4: odd there wasn't a whole lot of people, But they
Speaker 4: weren't totally surprised because they were kind of early, as
Speaker 4: they put it, for everyone else, because a lot of
Speaker 4: people got there mainly when it's hunting season and then
Speaker 4: the whole area is is flooded. They raft, they do
Speaker 4: their thing. One of the things that stood out to
Speaker 4: Tim was he said, the whole trip floating down. Something
Speaker 4: just seemed off, just totally off and he couldn't put
Speaker 4: his finger on it. And Josh had mentioned that had
Speaker 4: a more eerie vibe this particular trip. And they've done
Speaker 4: this trip, gosh a lot of times, at least a
Speaker 4: dozen that they could think of, probably a few more
Speaker 4: than that. So they get down and as they're getting
Speaker 4: closer to the area where they're going to pull out
Speaker 4: and just camp and then they do their fishing from
Speaker 4: the gravel bar and all that kind of stuff. Just
Speaker 4: a great time. Initially they're floating river. Tim is on
Speaker 4: his little pontoon with the two oars, just man's size
Speaker 4: and not the big ones, just a small, one person size,
Speaker 4: and Josh had his, but behind the seat on Josh
Speaker 4: Is he had a cooler strap down and that's where
Speaker 4: Candace sat. So they were a little wonky in the water,
Speaker 4: but they did just fine. So they get down to
Speaker 4: this area and they pull the rafts out and all
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. They set up camp the same
Speaker 4: place they set up camp several times all throughout. This
Speaker 4: particular area is where they would pull out beautiful scenery
Speaker 4: around them and all that stuff, natural beauty. It was
Speaker 4: just one of their favorite places. They get everything pulled out,
Speaker 4: they get camp set up and it's mid dayish land
Speaker 4: of the midnight sun. It's strange when you deal with
Speaker 4: it in person. So it's new to Candas and she
Speaker 4: was in awe. And so once they set up their
Speaker 4: kents and stuff, josh is like, hey, I'm taking Candice.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go walk the gravel bar and search around.
Speaker 4: Just look around, see if there's anything happening. So as
Speaker 4: they do, Tim just stayed at camp. He was doing
Speaker 4: his thing. He was going to do some fishing and whatnot.
Speaker 4: So josh and Candace take off from camp. They head
Speaker 4: back towards the south. They cut through a little bit
Speaker 4: of a drainage from overflow from the ice and stuff,
Speaker 4: and it was dried up and they walked through there
Speaker 4: and as they're going along, they come back around and
Speaker 4: they're gonna hook back around, basically getting the lay of
Speaker 4: the land and pointing out stuff for Candas. And Joshua said,
Speaker 4: we got back to the back side to the south
Speaker 4: and they're parallel with the Susitna River facing south. They
Speaker 4: heard a scream. The scream was coming from maybe one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards up into the trees because from
Speaker 4: their vantage point, it started sloping up, and it goes
Speaker 4: up to twenty four hundred feet rather quickly. It was
Speaker 4: like a butte the mountain there. So as they hear
Speaker 4: the scream, cannices that grabbing a hole of Josh's arm.
Speaker 4: What the hell is that? He said? It was dual octave.
Speaker 4: It was very low but high pitched, and they were
Speaker 4: both just synchronized and loud. So Josh was taken aback
Speaker 4: because they had heard weird things over the years, but
Speaker 4: not quite like this. The other stuff they heard, he
Speaker 4: equated it to probably coyotes or some other mammal. He
Speaker 4: was unaware of their scream or their call. Left it alone.
Speaker 4: They were in shock over it because how loud it
Speaker 4: was and it seemed projected at them. They didn't panic,
Speaker 4: they didn't freak out. Josh was armed, he said. Initially
Speaker 4: he was just wow. That was really intense. And so
Speaker 4: they circled back around the gravel bar. He got brush
Speaker 4: growing and stuff like that. But they get back around
Speaker 4: to camp and as they get to camp, I'll pick
Speaker 4: up from Tim's side of it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: So, as Tim was doing his thing sitting there at camp,
Speaker 4: Basically he was heating up some stuff to make a
Speaker 4: lunch and also to heat up some tea. And as
Speaker 4: he was sitting there, he heard the scream as well,
Speaker 4: but from his vantage point, he's facing the opposite direction.
Speaker 4: There's brush behind him. Joshua and Candis are on the
Speaker 4: opposite side of that, south of him, and he's facing north,
Speaker 4: he said, out of the blue. As he was sitting there,
Speaker 4: he heard that scream. After he heard the scream, he
Speaker 4: stood up and he looked around to make sure his
Speaker 4: shotgun was right nearby, and he's looking and he was
Speaker 4: that was the oddest sound because he heard exactly what
Speaker 4: Cannie and josh did, just reverberating around him, directly across
Speaker 4: the river. He heard a very weird chirping noise, a
Speaker 4: very loud chirping, and it was not natural, he said.
Speaker 4: Immediately his hair stood up on end, and he just
Speaker 4: slowly reached down, grabbed the shotgun and was looking towards
Speaker 4: the direction of this chirping sound as he's standing there
Speaker 4: facing that way, Because he said, he was basically transfixed,
Speaker 4: just staring, waiting for whatever to make more noise, signs
Speaker 4: of movement, whatever it may be. As that's going on,
Speaker 4: he didn't realize how much time had passed, but enough
Speaker 4: time had passed where Josh and Cannis all of a
Speaker 4: sudden a coming back up on camp and they see
Speaker 4: Tim standing there holding the shotgun looking across. Josh asked him, hey,
Speaker 4: you heard what we heard, and he was like, I
Speaker 4: heard something behind me, but then I heard weird chirping
Speaker 4: across the way there, Josh said. When he said that,
Speaker 4: he looks over, Cannis is really freaking out, and so
Speaker 4: he tries to conver down. Oh, we hear strange noises,
Speaker 4: No big deal, and she goes that scream was real odd.
Speaker 4: They calmed things down. They settled back down into camp,
Speaker 4: which was really very hard to do because Tim said
Speaker 4: that it struck him really hardcore to where his hair
Speaker 4: was standing up and he had never had that hap
Speaker 4: and even seen bears all the time, and so he
Speaker 4: took it very serious. What's causing this? So as they're
Speaker 4: sitting there, he finishes up to lunch thing and the
Speaker 4: tea and they're all sitting there talking in a circle
Speaker 4: on their little fold out chairs. Josh and Candace had
Speaker 4: their back to the brush behind them. Their backs are
Speaker 4: facing south and they're facing Tim, who's facing back towards
Speaker 4: among the opposite side of their little campfire. He's directly
Speaker 4: north to them, and they're looking past him on the
Speaker 4: other river bank side. And as they're sitting there talking,
Speaker 4: Kennice jumps up in points. Now when she jumps up
Speaker 4: in points, Tim jumps up, turns around. Josh is already
Speaker 4: halfway standing up. As Tim turns around, they're all looking
Speaker 4: and they're not seeing what she saw. She tells them, hey,
Speaker 4: there's something very dark moving over there in that brush.
Speaker 4: You could hear it. And so they stop a second
Speaker 4: because they're near the river, so there's other noises going on.
Speaker 4: But she picked up on the noise and they listened
Speaker 4: for a second and then they caught onto it too.
Speaker 4: You could hear the brush moving. Then they saw some
Speaker 4: of the brush moving around right. So Tim grabs a
Speaker 4: shotgun again. Josh had his pistol on his hip, but
Speaker 4: he didn't even unholster it because Tim's right there the shotgun.
Speaker 4: They listened for a while and it goes quiet. Noise stops.
Speaker 4: Things calm down and they sit back down. They finish
Speaker 4: what they were doing, and Josh took the small bowls
Speaker 4: and stuff went over the river to wash them out.
Speaker 4: Being bear safe and all that he was sitting there
Speaker 4: washing everything out. As Tim put it, him and Candice
Speaker 4: were sitting there at the campfire and she kept talking
Speaker 4: about that scream and Tim was like, yeah, I heard
Speaker 4: it and it was very odd. And as they're having
Speaker 4: this discussion, they hear the scream again, but this time
Speaker 4: it sounds like it's directly behind the brush behind them.
Speaker 4: They're like, what the hell, because again it reverberated around,
Speaker 4: so it sounded like it was coming from back behind
Speaker 4: the brush. That immediately got Josh attention because he was
Speaker 4: just finishing up what he was doing. He comes back
Speaker 4: over and tells Tim and Candas, Hey, let's go back
Speaker 4: around there and see if we can see whatever's making
Speaker 4: this noise, because it's creeping me the hell out. So
Speaker 4: they all agreed. Kim took the lead, Josh was right
Speaker 4: behind with Candace directly behind him, and they basically retrace
Speaker 4: Josh and Candace's path back around to the backside. Now,
Speaker 4: when they got around to the back side, and Tim
Speaker 4: was telling Josh it sounded like it was coming from
Speaker 4: over here. As he was saying that, right in the
Speaker 4: middle of saying that to him, they hear brush move
Speaker 4: off to their left from that little island of brush,
Speaker 4: and they're camped directly on the opposite side of it, right,
Speaker 4: So they hear this movement in the brush, and immediately
Speaker 4: Tim's pointing shot in that direction. Josh draws his fire,
Speaker 4: and they're looking and following the sound with their ears
Speaker 4: and their eyes, trying to figure out where it's moving
Speaker 4: to right because there's a little bit of wind, but
Speaker 4: there's definitely chomping and crashing through this brush that's just
Speaker 4: right off to their left hand side. Tim said, let's
Speaker 4: back up. Let's back up, because he's thinking bear, right,
Speaker 4: and the bear must have been drawn in with the
Speaker 4: smell of the food cooking, and then the food meal
Speaker 4: dissipateds was probably coming back out to leave the area.
Speaker 4: It probably winded us. Let's give it room. So as
Speaker 4: they back up, they're down the gravel bar a little
Speaker 4: ways and they're looking back at the brush, and as
Speaker 4: they're doing so, all of a sudden, this dark figure
Speaker 4: less than one hundred yards away takes off bolts from
Speaker 4: almost directly in front of them in the brush, bolts
Speaker 4: to their right like a sprinter, And they said it
Speaker 4: was big, it was skinny, and they couldn't really make
Speaker 4: out much because it just took off, and the way
Speaker 4: it was moving it looked real awkward, but it was booking,
Speaker 4: and it just crossed and went up into the brush,
Speaker 4: back up towards the sound where the original scream had
Speaker 4: come from, real fast. Tim said he followed it with
Speaker 4: the shotgun, but he was still behind it. He wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna shoot it. It was just a natural reaction and
Speaker 4: something starts moving like that, and so they watch it
Speaker 4: take off up into the trees, and so they all
Speaker 4: look at each other. Did we all just see this? Josh?
Speaker 4: It heard stuff about the hairy Man in the past,
Speaker 4: but it was like people just been out in the
Speaker 4: woods too long or whatever, seeing what they want to see.
Speaker 4: But after that thing ran across, there was no denying
Speaker 4: in his mind. There's definitely something going on here. So
Speaker 4: after a moment or two and they're having a discussion
Speaker 4: about how fast it moved and how crazy it was
Speaker 4: or whatever, they retreat back to camp. Now, when they
Speaker 4: get back to camp, Kenna says, I have a very
Speaker 4: bad feeling. I don't want to be here, Tim agres,
Speaker 4: and so does Josh. But because of what they had
Speaker 4: planned going on, they didn't want to not be in
Speaker 4: the area where one of their friends usually picks them
Speaker 4: up in a boat via the siussit in a river,
Speaker 4: So when they their pick up would come up and
Speaker 4: pick them up, and they would deflate their little rafts
Speaker 4: and they would put it in their friends twenty two
Speaker 4: foot boat. They had a system laid out to where
Speaker 4: they could put it all in there and just motorn out.
Speaker 3: Of there and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to
Speaker 3: see We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: After these messages at the end of their trip, so
Speaker 4: they had two more days to kill for this particular trip,
Speaker 4: so their ride wasn't coming for two more days, and
Speaker 4: they were in a conundrum. Do we float out of here,
Speaker 4: do we stay here and wait? Do we move camp?
Speaker 4: They went through all these options and they decided they're
Speaker 4: just gonna keep camp where it's at, which they later regret.
Speaker 4: So as all this discussion is going on, Candace said
Speaker 4: that she kept feeling like she was being watched, but
Speaker 4: not from what ran off behind them, but from whatever
Speaker 4: is making that noise across the river. She just kept
Speaker 4: scenting like she was being focused on Tim and Josh.
Speaker 4: They had said, because I brought it up when Candice
Speaker 4: was feeling this, was there any straight anteress with you guys?
Speaker 4: They were just like, outside of the craziness we just
Speaker 4: saw it just seemed normal. I didn't feel like we're
Speaker 4: being watched or whatever. So it goes on into evening
Speaker 4: time later. The way they had their tents set up.
Speaker 4: During that time, what Tim did was he went and
Speaker 4: cut a bunch of these alders and started weaving them
Speaker 4: in between the other alders to make a makeshift kind
Speaker 4: of bushcraft woven kind of thing to where it was
Speaker 4: a barrier to the backside of their tents. So when
Speaker 4: they were sleeping, if anything came in, there was a
Speaker 4: kind of barrier. Even though it wouldn't have stopped much.
Speaker 4: It was just peace of mind mainly. And so they
Speaker 4: call it a night after that because they decided that
Speaker 4: in the morning they're gonna get up and just wrapped
Speaker 4: on out of there and they'll just float to Susitna.
Speaker 4: Tim had one of those garment in reaches and he
Speaker 4: was just going to plan on sending his friend with
Speaker 4: the Bodha text saying Hey, we're going to float down.
Speaker 4: This is Sittina, Please meet us at your soonest availability.
Speaker 4: And they were just going to get out of the
Speaker 4: area basically, so they trumps off to bed and that
Speaker 4: night again Atlanta. At the midnight suner doesn't get overly dark.
Speaker 4: Candish and Josh were having a hard time sleeping because
Speaker 4: Candace kept tossing and turning and was just really freaked out.
Speaker 4: She had a very unsettling feeling. Josh was picking up
Speaker 4: on her vibe, and he wasn't doing too well either
Speaker 4: as far as listening. And the wind would blow and
Speaker 4: they would think they would hear something, but then they
Speaker 4: would explain it away as the wind. Meanwhile, in the
Speaker 4: tip next to him, Tim he's hearing the same things.
Speaker 4: Tim hears a very weird kind of gibberish sound, like
Speaker 4: someone talking behind his tit, behind that little brush wall
Speaker 4: he tried to build. He keeps hearing it over and
Speaker 4: over and it was in whispered tones. But he knew
Speaker 4: what he was hearing, because I know I'm not going crazy.
Speaker 4: I know what I'm hearing. So at a certain point
Speaker 4: he gets out of his tit and he could hear
Speaker 4: Candison Josh speaking. He says, Hey, there's noises going on
Speaker 4: out here, you guys, So they all get out. Josh
Speaker 4: and Tim are ormed. They decide, hey, let's go and
Speaker 4: see what the hell this noise is is freaking me out.
Speaker 4: The underbrush at this point is pretty dark. It's still
Speaker 4: real light out up in the sky, but it's very
Speaker 4: dark and shadowy in the brush. Tim said that as
Speaker 4: they walked around his timp, because on that side there
Speaker 4: was a small game show that cut just behind this
Speaker 4: barrier he put. So they had to go around the
Speaker 4: makeshift barrier to get onto this little game trail to
Speaker 4: go back in there and look. Now, he says, he
Speaker 4: doesn't know what possessed him to want to walk back
Speaker 4: there to look, but it was just sheer curiosity. Now,
Speaker 4: when they get back around there, I grant you, they've
Speaker 4: just seen this thing hours before run from that same
Speaker 4: set of brush back across on up. So as he's
Speaker 4: going around and they get he said, maybe fifty feet
Speaker 4: down this trail, which is real hard to get through
Speaker 4: because it was just getty noodles. There was this stuff
Speaker 4: interwoven everywhere, and it was real hard to get through there.
Speaker 4: They get about fifty feet back and Tim says he's
Speaker 4: seeing a dark shadow moving through the brush silently. He
Speaker 4: was blown away because they were making all sorts of noise,
Speaker 4: trying to just get fifty feet and this thing is
Speaker 4: just seamlessly moving from right to left. And he's just
Speaker 4: awestruck at this movement. So he squashed down and he's pointing,
Speaker 4: he's pointing. He's like, do you see it? Do you
Speaker 4: see it? Tim was like, let's go. Josh, standing behind him,
Speaker 4: said yes, I agree, let's go. I see it. So
Speaker 4: they start backing out. Josh grabs Kennis's arm because he
Speaker 4: wanted to hold on to her, and says, back out,
Speaker 4: you lead us out backwards. We're going to keep an
Speaker 4: eye on this thing, and so she does. So she's
Speaker 4: just following the same way they went fifty feet and
Speaker 4: then they come around the little brush thing and then
Speaker 4: there's their tents. When they got to the point where
Speaker 4: they're coming around the brush pile, Tim tried to make
Speaker 4: because a barrier a scream reverberates do all of them
Speaker 4: just sharp, high pitched, but with the low tony you
Speaker 4: could barely hear. It shocked the hell out of him.
Speaker 4: When the scream happened, Tim emptied his shotgun into the
Speaker 4: brush into the direction of that scream boom. He let
Speaker 4: off all six shots, they pour out of there. They
Speaker 4: were freaked out. They ran out past the tent. Tim
Speaker 4: was sitting there, running in the rear trying to reload
Speaker 4: his shotgun as fast as he could, and Josh had
Speaker 4: his pistol out, and they run out onto the gravel
Speaker 4: bar between where their camp was and where the rafts
Speaker 4: were sitting. And they were standing there because it was
Speaker 4: an open area. It was light enough out there, and
Speaker 4: they were looking back at the brush right. So once
Speaker 4: Tim was reloaded and Josh and they were all panting
Speaker 4: real hard and freaked out, and Cannice was trembling and
Speaker 4: crying because it was as scary as hell. They said
Speaker 4: that scream was so high pitched that had they not
Speaker 4: had stuff in their hairs and everything like that, they
Speaker 4: wanted to cover their ears. They felt it in their bodies.
Speaker 4: And so they stand there and they hear movement back
Speaker 4: behind this little barrier that he had put up earlier,
Speaker 4: and it was just crashing and thrashing, and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, this low groan that seen the last
Speaker 4: thirty seconds on one single kind of octave that went on,
Speaker 4: and there are just what the hell is that? Right
Speaker 4: after that noise goes away and fades away. They all
Speaker 4: look at each other, what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, that little barrier behind the tents,
Speaker 4: which was about six feet back from the tents, All
Speaker 4: of a sudden, all that whole wall of brush that
Speaker 4: he had tried to interweave together as a barrier just
Speaker 4: gets pushed down almost on top of the tents. And
Speaker 4: they were just taking it back because it happened so quickly.
Speaker 4: It was very violent. It was just all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this thing's pushing the stuff down. As that's happening, they're
Speaker 4: trying to make out the figure behind, and then they
Speaker 4: realize there's two, two figures pushing this stuff. Right, they
Speaker 4: freak out. Tim had already reloaded the shotgun and so
Speaker 4: he starts fire shots. Josh starts fire shots, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, the brush kind of bounce back up
Speaker 4: out of the way, and they heard movement and scuffling
Speaker 4: through the brush moving away from him, So they like,
Speaker 4: screw this right. Tim runs over to the tent because
Speaker 4: at this point he had just exhausted all the ammo
Speaker 4: he had on him. He had a satchel that had
Speaker 4: his garment in reach. Extra ammo and all his personal
Speaker 4: important stuff. He ran to his tent grabbed that out
Speaker 4: of there. Josh did the same. And what they did
Speaker 4: was is he immediately is using his cell phone with
Speaker 4: the garment in reach to send a message to his
Speaker 4: buddy that's going to pick him up in the boat.
Speaker 4: They do that, he gets confirmation the buddy received the
Speaker 4: text and whatnot that it was like twenty minutes had passed. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: Cannis Is just had been like somber but crying, sobbing. Basically,
Speaker 4: Josh is of course trying a consoler and everything, saying
Speaker 4: it's all right, they're gone, we're armed, we're good. Once
Speaker 4: Tim got the confirmation through the garment in reach as
Speaker 4: his friend received the message ten to four, I'm heading out.
Speaker 4: The first thing I got whatever. They worked out. So
Speaker 4: once they got confirmation of that, they just had their
Speaker 4: personal importance stuff and they went and pushed their rafts
Speaker 4: into the water and floated on down. Now they got
Speaker 4: to a certain point to where they decided to drop
Speaker 4: their anchors. They just basically sat out there because they
Speaker 4: were so tired, but they felt monicam of safety because
Speaker 4: they're in the middle of the river. They got their
Speaker 4: anchors out grant you. The little anchors they were using
Speaker 4: weren't working the best, but it was a slow drag
Speaker 4: against the curtain as the anchor was just getting drug
Speaker 4: along here and there. They sat there. Eventually the buddy
Speaker 4: comes picks them up, and once his buddy comes or
Speaker 4: picks them up, they just tie the raft together and
Speaker 4: drag them back up and then up through the clearing
Speaker 4: little ways to where their camp was. Now. They were
Speaker 4: approximately a half mile from their camp when they floated
Speaker 4: out and then floated down. So when they came back
Speaker 4: up with his friend, came armed with one of their
Speaker 4: other buddies, basically ready for whatever. They get off the boat,
Speaker 4: they go over and inspect the campsite. So one of
Speaker 4: the tents was gone, the one that Cannie and Josh
Speaker 4: was in. It was completely gone. They saw no sign
Speaker 4: of it. Tim's appeared to be smashed down. The little
Speaker 4: fiberglass poles and stuff were all broken up. He said,
Speaker 4: there was no salvaging. That the tent had been torn
Speaker 4: a little bit from whatever kind of tearing or investigating
Speaker 4: these things were doing at their campsite. The one thing
Speaker 4: that stood out to Josh was that there was one
Speaker 4: item left from their tent. It was Cannis's pillow, which
Speaker 4: was a very small, inflatable little pillow. He said it
Speaker 4: was very weird because it was in her sleeping bag
Speaker 4: when they gotten out of there, and then now all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's just that pillow there. So he
Speaker 4: said when he went to go and inspect it, it
Speaker 4: stunk bad, stunk real bad. It was like a greasy
Speaker 4: type substance on on it. It was real funky. And
Speaker 4: the friend that came, they were telling him what happened,
Speaker 4: and the guy is he didn't doubt him. He was
Speaker 4: just in shock. Holy crap, And of course he asked,
Speaker 4: what was it a bear? Like the bears don't do this?
Speaker 4: Was it a bear? And they were like, no, it's
Speaker 4: not a bear. They explained everything that happened. Meanwhile, they
Speaker 4: start deflating the wraps and getting everything stacked up and
Speaker 4: all that. They're salvaging what they can and trying to
Speaker 4: clean up the mess while his friend and the buddy
Speaker 4: he brought in the boat are standing guard and they're listening,
Speaker 4: and they would hear noises every once in a while
Speaker 4: on the back side of this brush where the initial
Speaker 4: scream came from, but no one was going to check
Speaker 4: that shit out, you know what I mean. They just
Speaker 4: stood there, they took care of what they needed to
Speaker 4: clean up the area, and then they loaded up, took
Speaker 4: off on the guy's jet boat and got out of there.
Speaker 4: I want to thank them for their efforts and getting
Speaker 4: a hold of me, getting the information to me, because
Speaker 4: a lot of people, they'll reach out, they'll share their experience,
Speaker 4: but then I can't get back a hold of them
Speaker 4: because it's almost like they get it off their check
Speaker 4: and they're just done with the situation, which I respected,
Speaker 4: I get it. What I want to share with you
Speaker 4: today comes from Jesse. Jesse was in her early teens
Speaker 4: in the mid nineties and she went back to her
Speaker 4: home village where her mom had her Her mom was
Speaker 4: a single mom. They ended up moving out of state
Speaker 4: for many years because her mom found who eventually became
Speaker 4: her stepdadd Now, when she first gets back to her
Speaker 4: home village, everyone's a little standoffish treated tour miacan outsider,
Speaker 4: So for the first few weeks it was hard. Than
Speaker 4: one of her cousins showed up back in town for
Speaker 4: the suing fishing season, so they had the connection. Then
Speaker 4: the cousin that showed up knew all the other people
Speaker 4: and so would go through and introduce and get Jesse
Speaker 4: on the right track as far as being back part
Speaker 4: of the community. The same cousin at the end of
Speaker 4: that season. Again, this is the mid nineties, at the
Speaker 4: end of the fishing season, he got back from fishing
Speaker 4: and said, Hey, I'm going to go out and do
Speaker 4: some running around. I'm going to go up river a
Speaker 4: little ways and maybe you want to go with a
Speaker 4: couple of people are going, let's go check it out
Speaker 4: or whatever, and she agreed. She was like, that'd be great.
Speaker 4: So on the way, now, I was asked not to
Speaker 4: divulge the river. We'll just say it's within the Bristol
Speaker 4: Bay area. We'll leave it general was that. So she
Speaker 4: goes with her cousin and two other further removed cousins.
Speaker 4: There was two guys, two girls. Now, as Jesse told me,
Speaker 4: they were about a good three hours skip ride going
Speaker 4: up river. I mean it's one particular part of the
Speaker 4: river kind of dog legs back and forth a few times,
Speaker 4: real tight area on the upper end of that. A
Speaker 4: couple bends up. They stopped and there was a nice
Speaker 4: little plateau up above the river and they were going
Speaker 4: to have a picnic. They were gonna eat their lunch.
Speaker 4: She said it was midday. It was early August, about
Speaker 4: roughly this time of year again, mid nineties, And so
Speaker 4: they had a boombox and they were playing Yeah, Math,
Speaker 4: you know that unbelievable song. And they had that playing
Speaker 4: like on repeat, and she was getting annoyed with it
Speaker 4: because she had heard it so many times, and she
Speaker 4: asked him, hey, can you kill the music a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's totally just messing up my whole vibe out here
Speaker 4: or whatever. So they cut off the boom box, and
Speaker 4: as soon as they cut off the boom box, way
Speaker 4: off in the distance, they hear this how this long
Speaker 4: bellowing howl kind of growl. It was hard to make
Speaker 4: out because she said it. It sounded like it was
Speaker 4: way far away, but they could hear it. And one
Speaker 4: of the other guy, the further removed cousin brings up, oh,
Speaker 4: that was a hairy man. We should go. That was
Speaker 4: a long ways away, and Jesse, not realizing what they
Speaker 4: were talking about, was like, what's a hairy man? What
Speaker 4: are you talking about? And then they broke it down
Speaker 4: for and everything, and she was like, oh, I thought
Speaker 4: it was all make belief stuff on the silly shows
Speaker 4: and whatever. They were like, no, it's a hairy man
Speaker 4: and whatnot. She was still in disbelief, like it made
Speaker 4: no sense to her. But she was just like okay.
Speaker 4: So the topic changed and they were quiet, they were talking.
Speaker 4: They're just being young kids. The other female chimes up
Speaker 4: and says, hey, I have some whiskey in my bag.
Speaker 4: Do you guys want some whiskey. Everyone was like no,
Speaker 4: we're on the water. We can do that when we
Speaker 4: get back. She wanted to sip whiskey. There was no
Speaker 4: argument with her. She was a little bit older than
Speaker 4: everybody and Jesse was like fourteen, so she had no
Speaker 4: skin in the fight older cousin. Obviously she's gonna do
Speaker 4: what she wants. So she goes and gets her whiskey
Speaker 4: and everyone's disappointed and not really talking to that other
Speaker 4: female cousin. She's just double bubbling that whiskey like there's
Speaker 4: no tomorrow, and pretty soon she's just smashed. About an
Speaker 4: hour had passed, right, and so Jesse said that she
Speaker 4: got a weird feeling of being watched, and she mentioned
Speaker 4: it to her other cousin with a more familiar cousin
Speaker 4: that was introducing her to everybody, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I sense that too. We should probably get going. The
Speaker 4: other woman at this time had way too much and
Speaker 4: she was just falling down drunk, combative, the whole bit,
Speaker 4: verbally abusive, everyone was a pos and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, and she had to use the bathroom.
Speaker 3: For more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after these messages. So the two
Speaker 4: guys say, hey, she shouldn't go over in that brush alone.
Speaker 4: Maybe Jesse, you can go and watch her to make
Speaker 4: sure she doesn't go off missing. So she reluctantly was
Speaker 4: like fine, because she didn't care for this other woman's vibe.
Speaker 4: She was totally out there raging, alcoholic, abusive, rude, real
Speaker 4: ugly situation. Jesse felt bad for because she felt obviously
Speaker 4: there's something wrong in her life where this is a problem.
Speaker 4: So she follows her over and she's standing about twenty
Speaker 4: five feet away from this girl who's still cussing, I
Speaker 4: don't need you to have to follow me. She's just
Speaker 4: laying into Jesse and Jesse, Jesus, what am I even
Speaker 4: doing over here? Why follow her? If she's just gonna
Speaker 4: be so rude whatever. So she just turned her back
Speaker 4: stood there nearby, about twenty five feet away, and she
Speaker 4: could clearly see her other two cousins standing over there
Speaker 4: and look in the direction, but maur try not to
Speaker 4: pay attention to the girl handling her business in the brush.
Speaker 4: Now off the river bank, you got this tall grass,
Speaker 4: she said, it was about three four foot tall. They
Speaker 4: walk down a little game trail to get over to
Speaker 4: the taller alders and willows in that little particular area
Speaker 4: where she tucked in to go to the bathroom. Now,
Speaker 4: with her back turn, she started hearing the brush moving
Speaker 4: and thought it was the wind. And just as she
Speaker 4: was getting ready to turn around, she said, she hurd
Speaker 4: a grunt, and she immediately thought bear. So she yells
Speaker 4: out to the other two guys bear they were armed,
Speaker 4: and immediately they come charging over. Right now, as they
Speaker 4: come running up, Jesse's back is still to this girl
Speaker 4: and this sound, and she squats down and covers her
Speaker 4: ear shoes, expecting them to start shooting. And as they
Speaker 4: run up, they stop, and they're doing this number, looking
Speaker 4: at the brush, and they're looking at each other and
Speaker 4: looking up, and they're motioning for Jesse to come to
Speaker 4: their direction, but they're not saying anything. They're just like,
Speaker 4: get over here, get over here. So Jesse monkey crawls
Speaker 4: on out in their direction. As soon as she split
Speaker 4: the difference, she said about halfway, they both leveled their
Speaker 4: rifles and fired into the brush. Now, all this was
Speaker 4: going on, the drunk girl was doing her thing. She
Speaker 4: was oblivious to all of it till the guns cracked. Oh,
Speaker 4: a couple shots crack off, and she screams, right, so
Speaker 4: immediately everything goes chaotic. According to what Jesse said, she
Speaker 4: turned around and looked back, and all she saw was
Speaker 4: this dark figure turned and was moving away from what
Speaker 4: her cousin told her. When they came up, they saw
Speaker 4: it moving towards the direction of where the other woman
Speaker 4: was using the restroom in the brush, and that's when
Speaker 4: they were like in shock and motioned her over. Now,
Speaker 4: they explain all this real fast, because it happened quick.
Speaker 4: So what, according to Jesse said was as she's realizing
Speaker 4: what's going on and seeing this dark figure moving away,
Speaker 4: immediately the two guys go rushing over towards the brush
Speaker 4: to get that chick out of the brush where she
Speaker 4: was using the bathroom. Again, she was belligerent. She didn't
Speaker 4: know it was going going on. She starts accusing him
Speaker 4: of trying to shoot her. I heard the gun shots
Speaker 4: all this stuff. Right, So they're dealing with a drunk
Speaker 4: woman that's just uncooperative, belligerent, ugly scene, right. And Jesse's
Speaker 4: still standing where she had crawled back out, and they
Speaker 4: came over to her. So she's standing there looking back
Speaker 4: and she hears the brush and she said she could
Speaker 4: see the top of the brush moving, lost sight of it,
Speaker 4: but it was moment moving back behind him, and she
Speaker 4: yells out, hey, it's moving, and they said, we hear it,
Speaker 4: we hear it. The other guy, not the closer cousin
Speaker 4: to her, he comes steps out further away from the
Speaker 4: brush and he's trying to look back up in there
Speaker 4: and everything, as her closer cousin was trying to get
Speaker 4: this woman to listen and let's go. When she was
Speaker 4: being resistant, she was like, no, you guys are trying
Speaker 4: to kill me in all this nonsense, just belligerent, not
Speaker 4: realizing what was happening. She was not in her sensus.
Speaker 4: Some more, Jesse said when the guy steps back and
Speaker 4: that she can hear the back and forth between her
Speaker 4: closer cousin and this guy and her. They're all going
Speaker 4: back and forth. Shut up, just come on, we gotta go,
Speaker 4: we gotta go. And then they said it's a harry man.
Speaker 4: It's the hairy man in the brush. When they said that,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, this girl that was resistant, pulling
Speaker 4: away and just being belligerent comes charging out of the
Speaker 4: brush towards Jesse and she's falling down. She's so wasted,
Speaker 4: but she's jumping up panic and trying to run chaotic scene.
Speaker 4: Her closer cousin comes out and is a stopper. Stopper
Speaker 4: she going to run into the river because she wasn't
Speaker 4: all that far from doing just that. So they're all
Speaker 4: gathering around her, trying to get her to calm down
Speaker 4: and whatnot. And as this is going on, Jesse keeps
Speaker 4: looking back to that brush because again she saw a
Speaker 4: movement moving back around, and the two guys heard it.
Speaker 4: And they're trying to keep this other woman from basically
Speaker 4: injuring herself and being a danger to everybody because she
Speaker 4: was just belligerent. Out of it now from what she said.
Speaker 4: As they were standing there trying to counsel this girl
Speaker 4: and get her to stop her nonsense, which is impo
Speaker 4: gossible if anyone's dealt with a drunk that's just belligerent.
Speaker 4: It's almost impossible. As that's going on, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: from the brush where they last heard the movement, the
Speaker 4: scream comes out. The scream bellows and just echoes, and
Speaker 4: it tears through everybody, right, And it was a pretty
Speaker 4: standard explanation. It was deep but also high pitched, all
Speaker 4: rolled into one right. Not quite the air raid type,
Speaker 4: but it was brief and it was very powerful. Got
Speaker 4: all their attention. As the two guys are looking back
Speaker 4: at the brush and leveling their guns because they didn't
Speaker 4: know if it was coming out or leaving or what.
Speaker 4: They didn't know. As they're doing that, this chick, the
Speaker 4: drunk one, takes off running. They're like shit. They turn out. Hey,
Speaker 4: they're yelling her name, stop running, and she just barrels
Speaker 4: through the grass and poop right over the river bank.
Speaker 4: She didn't even slow down. She's poosh and they heard
Speaker 4: her splash in the water. Immediately everyone goes running over there.
Speaker 4: The other guy who was a little bigger than her
Speaker 4: closer cousin, and he jumped down the bank. He left
Speaker 4: his rifle up on the bank and is trying to
Speaker 4: get this chick out of the water. Luckily there was
Speaker 4: a little eddy area that wasn't too deep of a
Speaker 4: hole in there, and it was only about three feet
Speaker 4: deep where she had landed. She's just belligerent, You threw
Speaker 4: me in the water and all this just nonsense, right,
Speaker 4: And the guy is at that point is fed up,
Speaker 4: tells her to shut up get up the bank. So
Speaker 4: they're all struggling to help her up the bank. This
Speaker 4: screen just happened, so Jesse is freaked out. She's watching
Speaker 4: the brush. Her other cousin's trying to help this chick,
Speaker 4: and her cousin says, keep an eye out, let me
Speaker 4: know if it comes out of the brush. Everyone's in
Speaker 4: a panic. They got to get this idiot out of
Speaker 4: the water who's beligerent drunk, and help the other guy
Speaker 4: out and then get over to the skiff to get
Speaker 4: out of there. So all this is going on, it's
Speaker 4: just craziness, chaotic. Jesse said. She squatted down and she
Speaker 4: was crying because of how dysfunctional this girl was. She
Speaker 4: had heard stories but never seen it with her own
Speaker 4: eyes about how people get drunk and bligerent. She's dealing
Speaker 4: with it in real time and also watching out for
Speaker 4: this monster in the woods, and she totally freaked out.
Speaker 4: She's squatted out of crying. They finally get the girl out,
Speaker 4: and when she gets up on the river bank, she's
Speaker 4: so wiped out from the struggle of getting up the bank.
Speaker 4: She wasn't in the greatest of shape, a little overweight,
Speaker 4: what have you. She just lays there and says, leave me.
Speaker 4: So now they got another issue. This girl's leave me.
Speaker 4: I just want to die, leave me, let it get me.
Speaker 4: In all this nonsense, they weren't doing none of that shit.
Speaker 4: So finally, after about fifteen to twenty minutes of this nonsense,
Speaker 4: each of the guys grabbed one of her arms and
Speaker 4: they just drag her. It wasn't all that far. They
Speaker 4: didn't hurt her, but they weren't gonna deal with the
Speaker 4: nonsense anymore. At this point, Jesse's holding the other guy's
Speaker 4: rifle because he was using two hands, and her closer
Speaker 4: cousin just had her by one arm and still holding
Speaker 4: his rifle. So she's walking behind holding this rifle, knows
Speaker 4: nothing about it. She's just holding it basically right, So
Speaker 4: they get her drug over to the other edge, and
Speaker 4: she's finally kicking her feet up, and my parents are
Speaker 4: slot and slipping down. You guys are being mean to
Speaker 4: mean all this nonsense. They're fed up with her, get
Speaker 4: in the boat. They help her down the bank. She
Speaker 4: gets into the skiff, she flops down onto the lund
Speaker 4: and she's just basically sulking and crying, saying, you guys
Speaker 4: abused me and all this nonsense. So as Jesse stander
Speaker 4: holding his gun, her cousin goes down and starts the outboard,
Speaker 4: and the other guy that she's holding his rifle, he
Speaker 4: comes and grabs it from her. Now she is parallel
Speaker 4: with the brush, facing the same direction as the lake.
Speaker 4: The brush runs along the river. You know, she's parallel
Speaker 4: with the brush. She's facing that guy. When he takes
Speaker 4: his gun and immediately turns and off to her left.
Speaker 4: She turns the look too, and they see it just
Speaker 4: inside the brush, squatted down in the same area. She
Speaker 4: was using a restroom looking out at them right, and
Speaker 4: all they could see was the silhouette of this right,
Speaker 4: and she freaks out. Jesse said, she ran, She slipped
Speaker 4: down the bank, got all muddy, ended up climbing into
Speaker 4: the skiff as the other guy was up on the bank.
Speaker 4: They couldn't see over the bank when they were down
Speaker 4: in the skiff, and all they see is him level
Speaker 4: the rifle up and fire a couple of times. Boom, boom,
Speaker 4: and then he stops, looks you hear crashing off in
Speaker 4: the distance, and then he jumps down, unties the boat
Speaker 4: and pushes off and they back out of there and
Speaker 4: they go down river. She said it was about a
Speaker 4: three hour trip up, but on the way back down
Speaker 4: about an hour back into it, they stopped. They pulled
Speaker 4: off on the river bank. The girl had passed out
Speaker 4: at this time, the one that had been drinking. They
Speaker 4: just let her sleep. They got out of the skiff.
Speaker 4: They went up on the bank. It was a little
Speaker 4: more open, there wasn't as much brush, and they're looking around.
Speaker 4: Grant you. An hour had passed since the guy had
Speaker 4: fired shots, and they had left that area their cruise
Speaker 4: and had a pretty good clip down river. So they're
Speaker 4: standing there a minute and one of the guys, the
Speaker 4: other guy, not her closer cousin, was smoking a cigarette
Speaker 4: and he was looking back up river and says, there
Speaker 4: it is. Immediately got her attention. Jesse says, she turned
Speaker 4: and looked and oft in the distance you could see
Speaker 4: this black dot every once in a while, popping up
Speaker 4: and going down with the terrain. It was like one
Speaker 4: second you see it and then it was gone, and
Speaker 4: you see it pop up again, and you could tell
Speaker 4: it was clear in the distance it was coming towards them.
Speaker 4: And immediately they all, well, screw this. They got back
Speaker 4: in the skiff and untied and they just they took
Speaker 4: off and got either there. She has not been back
Speaker 4: to the village except once since then. She stayed the
Speaker 4: rest of that summer. They went back to the city
Speaker 4: they live in now, and she's been back once, and
Speaker 4: that was to bury her mom about ten years ago.
Speaker 4: That particular cousin that was with her and a very
Speaker 4: large part of getting her reintroduced to her culture and stuff.
Speaker 4: He had since passed as something had happened and he
Speaker 4: had lost his life somehow and in some kind of
Speaker 4: tragic accident. Not going to get into that, but she
Speaker 4: ended up during that time running into the other guy,
Speaker 4: the more distant cousin. She asked him how he was doing.
Speaker 4: Long time, no see, and it took him a second
Speaker 4: to realize who she was, and then once he did,
Speaker 4: he was like, do you remember up on the river
Speaker 4: bank and she said yeah, and he commenced to telling
Speaker 4: her that after that, every time he would go up
Speaker 4: in that area, he would have really big rocks thrown
Speaker 4: at him, and he no longer goes up into that area.
Speaker 4: He said, because he shot at it and probably hit
Speaker 4: it the way he was shooting at it, that it
Speaker 4: was after him. So he felt like this thing was
Speaker 4: after him. Years later, anytime he'd go up near the area.
Speaker 4: By the time he was done with this trip, he
Speaker 4: was leaving because rocks were being thrown at him with aggression.
Speaker 4: That really stood out to her. She hasn't been back
Speaker 4: up since. I really appreciate Jesse reaching out. Thank you
Speaker 4: guys for joining me. We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 6: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 7: There inside steps, inside.
Speaker 6: Chart this child, that child, everything came right back. Pride back,
Speaker 6: joy for me, joy, stay right there.
Speaker 1: You come it right away, still said, says.
Speaker 2: To the.
Speaker 1: Doctor.
Speaker 8: Dostists us stas used us uses