WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.680 I do not accept and do you guys that Charlie 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:07.719 Kirk lost his life because he really pissed off. 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:08.759 The trans lobby. 4 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:12.599 It terrifies me to think that on a day that 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:18.000 Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people who 6 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:22.160 said that me and me and Tucker should lay low 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.120 because we're also on the list. And they never told 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.480 us who specifically told them that. By the way, now 9 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:31.320 I'm wondering why they never told us who specifically told 10 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:31.559 him that. 11 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:32.119 I called Tucker. 12 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:33.520 I'm like, I'm hearing her, you're hearing something I'm hearing 13 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:35.320 up there saying that we're next. And now I go, 14 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:37.960 was that supposed to be a threat to me and 15 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:44.640 Tucker to have us watch the public execution of a 16 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.719 friend of ours and then to call us and to 17 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.399 say you should lay low for a little bit because 18 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.240 you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list? 19 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:54.280 Was that just supposed to be a threat? 20 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:57.439 As is now a bi weekly occurrence, Candice Owens has 21 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:02.200 again dropped a bombshell, multiple bombshells. Actually, I'm going to 22 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.560 start by talking about a very interesting tidbit that I 23 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.599 don't think you should be focusing on I know that 24 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:10.599 that sounds weird that I would start with that, but 25 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.079 it'll make sense. So Cannis Owons had a basically document 26 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.640 dump and proved out many of her claims that she 27 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.280 made almost a full month ago. Now that people have 28 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:24.319 been just constantly lambasting her, where's the receipts? You liar, 29 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.799 you liar, you liar. Then she delivers the receipts, and 30 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.239 now it's how could you possibly put out text messages 31 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.079 that were supposed to be private about a man who died, 32 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:37.280 and how dare you? It's like, oh, so you just 33 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.200 whatever she says and whatever evidence she has to back 34 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.959 up her claims, you're just going to blaster regardless. Essentially 35 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.400 what you're saying is shut up. Candis owns. We're not 36 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.560 interested in the truth of who took out Charlie Kirk. 37 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.079 We are just interested in controlling the narrative and making 38 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.000 sure that the guy who we currently have in custody 39 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.920 is prosecuted and put to death, regardless of the facts. 40 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.480 That's actually what you're in. Now we're on the same 41 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.200 page here. I get exactly what you're doing, all right, 42 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.879 So let's start with the story that is interesting but 43 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:12.400 probably not something you should be totally focused on Josh Hammer. Now, 44 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.840 Josh Hammer is a very important figure in this story, 45 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:16.840 and I definitely want you to focus on him, But 46 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.039 this aspect of the story I think could be a 47 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:24.400 misdirect to a certain degree. Both prior and after Charlie 48 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:30.639 Kirk's assassination, Josh Hammer inexplicably tweets out public execution. The 49 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.080 first one he actually does it with a quote tweet 50 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.879 of Donald Trump from a dozen years ago, where Trump 51 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.520 is talking about how there should be public executions because 52 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.120 then it'll send a message and it'll stop this shit, 53 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:47.439 and he just says, based Okay. At the time, I 54 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:49.639 couldn't really remember the context of that day in that 55 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.199 news cycle. I went back and I looked, and in fact, 56 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.319 I was talking about Arena, the poor girl who had 57 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.159 been killed on that train, and I think that's probably 58 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.879 what he was referencing. It is in to note, though, 59 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.919 and I think it's very important that people understand the 60 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.439 context of this. In Josh Hammer's own admissions, that night, 61 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.319 the very night that he sent that out, he was 62 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.039 having a conversation on that zoom call, and I know 63 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.960 it was with a rabbi and Charlie Kirk, he said others. 64 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:18.400 So I think that there may have been one or 65 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.319 two more people. I do not know who they were 66 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:24.240 on that call, but they were having a conversation about 67 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.680 how Charlie would address any critiques of Israel during his 68 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:32.000 campus tour. Now that's how they frame it. 69 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.280 So now we actually spoke literally the night before his 70 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.039 tragic and untimely death. I was on a small zoom 71 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.960 call with him in a couple others. We were literally 72 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.759 talking through this topic. I was giving Charlie advice for 73 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.719 how to message on this issue on his forthcoming campus tour. 74 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.599 You know, he kind of jokingly mentioned me. He was like, Josh, 75 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:50.439 I'm going to mention your book his Rule and Civilization, 76 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.840 and it's so good. And that was literally our last conversation. 77 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.439 It's just so tragic. This letter that he wrote to 78 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:59.360 the Prime Minister Chris I read back in junior July 79 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.800 or so, and there were so many people in the 80 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.319 aftermath of his horrific assassination. Can the Zeblin's folks like 81 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.520 that who were saying that, oh, Charlie was turning on 82 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.479 the Israel. He was ready to sell them out and 83 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.280 renounce his life's work of sincere and genuine friendship with 84 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.600 the Jewish people in the Jewish State. But this letter 85 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.079 that he wrote to beating Anto Yahoo, Chris literally begins 86 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:22.720 the first sentence of the letter is I'm paraphrasing here, 87 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.160 what's a close paraphrase as a Christian, one of my 88 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.439 greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish 89 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.879 people and defending the state of Israel. That's literally the 90 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:32.199 opening sentence of this letter. 91 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:35.839 Filth. 92 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:42.360 Okay, absolute filth. I don't understand it. I can't comprehend it. 93 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.560 Whatever that is that lives in him does not live 94 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.759 in me. There's no truth in him. Obviously, there is 95 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.800 no truth in Josh Hammer. He could have said, well, 96 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.240 Charlie was going through forty eight hours earlier. Yeah, he didn't. 97 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:54.839 He refused to that. 98 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.839 Unfortunately, we will never know the truth of those conversations 99 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.720 because I can't trust josh Hammer, and you should not 100 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.680 trust Josh Hammer. And I'm going to prove to you 101 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:08.399 that this man is a just overt liar, despicable liar. 102 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.759 That's a fact. I'll show you. 103 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.759 So that night he's having this zoom call with this 104 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.519 is Charlie the Rabbi Josh Hammer, maybe one or two others, 105 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.839 and they're having this conversation about how he's going to 106 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.160 deal with these critiques of Israel. However, I'm I'm interested 107 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.519 now because of the because of the receipts, because of 108 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.480 the text message screenshots that were put out by Candice 109 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.120 Owans and confirmed by Andrew Colvitt of TPUSA. 110 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:37.639 Started this show to address some of the things that 111 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.519 have been going around on public, namely about a text 112 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.399 a group text chain that has been made known and 113 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.600 released by Candae Owans. And I just want to dress 114 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:52.160 it head on because you know, that was a text grab, 115 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.160 a screen grab that I had shared with people, so 116 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.600 it is authentic, and I want to go into it 117 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.399 because I actually am really excited that the the truth 118 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.560 is out there so. 119 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:03.360 We know these are real. I want to be very 120 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.879 clear about that, and it's that's the story. So we're 121 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.360 going to get into that in a second. But I'm 122 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.560 very interested to know given that just the night prior, 123 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.680 Charlie Kirk had said I have no choice but to 124 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:18.399 abandon the pro Israel cause. Were they actually just giving 125 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.399 Charlie Kirk a coaching lesson on how to be a 126 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.399 better defender of Israel? Or was this again, yet another 127 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:32.439 potential intervention to try and bring him back onto the plantation. 128 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.560 I think that's a question that we really need an 129 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.959 answer to, and I'm not sure that we'll ever get it, 130 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.519 but it would be very telling if that were the case. 131 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.040 The reason I say this is because that's the big 132 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.680 document dump from Candice is that in fact, everything she 133 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:53.319 alleged about how Charlie was in fact openly discussing his 134 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:58.680 intention to abandon the pro Israel pro zionis cause just 135 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.120 forty eight hours before his life was taken, that is 136 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.959 true that happened. Does that mean that Israel killed him? No, 137 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.600 it doesn't. I want to be crystal clear about that. 138 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:14.000 But the fact that that happened factually, and instead of 139 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:16.759 the people that were on that text chain acknowledging that 140 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.600 Cannice Owen's claims were true, all of them, all seven 141 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:24.000 of them, stayed totally silent about it, and some of 142 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:32.639 them actively and overtly lied intentionally to misrepresent Charlie's emotions, mindset, 143 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.240 outlook and potential motives for why he might have been killed. 144 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.519 We're supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch, 145 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.480 so he went from I'm done to like, hey, love you, 146 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.480 how can I be of more service to you? And 147 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:52.720 then in that exact same day, he was texting people 148 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.000 saying they are going to kill me on the same 149 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.600 day that he's on the zoom call. Is a fact 150 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.560 that at the same time, that same day, he's texting 151 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.639 people saying they are going. 152 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:06.199 To kill me. 153 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.439 And we are supposed to deduce from this that by they, 154 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.480 what he really meant was Tyler Robinson. He meant they 155 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.879 them duh, like a non binary person or a trans person. 156 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.800 They were going to kill him. That was what he 157 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:28.839 had a feeling about. And everything else is just completely irrelevant. 158 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:32.679 Deeply disturbing, and something that needs if there is an 159 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.279 actual investigation happening, which I'm not even sure there is 160 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.200 at this point, but if there is, and if you're 161 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:40.360 not interviewing these people, that's a big problem. So, as 162 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.840 I said, the story that's kind of irrelevant in my 163 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:48.519 opinion is that then after the attack happens again again, 164 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:54.039 Josh Hammer posts public execution, no details, nothing else. And 165 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.600 I'm thinking, Okay, so you've just seen you've just seen 166 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.639 your buddy. I mean, this is allegedly I don't think 167 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:05.240 he was, but you've just seen your buddy brutally publicly executed, 168 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.960 and you're just randomly tweeting that out. Now, obviously the 169 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.879 defenders of him are coming out and saying, well, he 170 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.679 was talking about the guy who took out Charlie. Obviously, 171 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.039 it's like, okay, maybe there was no context whatsoever. So 172 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.480 just prior to the attack he's saying this, and right 173 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.919 after the attack he's saying this, and he's giving no 174 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:29.240 context whatsoever. And if you're familiar with the conspiracy theory world, 175 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.840 you're already familiar with the term revelation of the method, 176 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:35.679 where essentially like they have to tell you what they're 177 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.360 going to do before they do it, and they leave 178 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.080 these little breadcrumbs that aren't provable and it just causes 179 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.639 people to spiral out. But it's some sort of obligatory thing. 180 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.600 And I don't know if it's like Illuminati or whatever, 181 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.320 but I'm not going to go down that path because 182 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.480 it is not provable. So if you want to look 183 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.799 at those messages and come to the conclusion that yes, 184 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.720 he was in on it, and he was doing this 185 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.159 and he was notifying the world and he was sending 186 00:09:59.159 --> 00:09:59.879 a message. 187 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.799 Maybe I don't know, but I'm not going there. 188 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.799 What I want to focus on is that after one 189 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.879 of his close confidences, there's seven people on that text chain. 190 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:15.159 One of those guys was Josh Hammer, confirmed by Candae Owns. 191 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:17.960 He then went on a media circuit where he's just 192 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.480 talking about how it's totally false. Charlie has never been 193 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.039 more in for Israel. He just loves Israel. Do that's it. 194 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.440 There's no nuance. Candie Owens is a liar. She doesn't 195 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.960 have any proof of this, and he just overtly lied. 196 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.879 And it was really only over the past I don't know, 197 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:37.120 a year and a half or so that I would 198 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.320 say that we became closer and we started talking very frequently. 199 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.360 He formed a small group chat there, probably seven or 200 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.799 eight of us total in this group chat there. He 201 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.720 called it his brain trust, his brain trust for thinking 202 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.720 about Israel, for thinking about Jewish Christian relations. He was 203 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.679 very concerned about rising anti Semitism, so we talked a 204 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.519 little bit about that sort of stuff frankly, but above 205 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.759 all we really strategized, but how to turn back the 206 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.759 tide against rising anti Semitism and anti Israel sentiment on 207 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:09.240 the American right in Republican Party circles among young gen 208 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.120 Z conservative activists. Because of that, he did organize this 209 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.759 zoom call the night before he tragically was murdered, So 210 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.759 basically before he set foot the first event, he won 211 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.159 a kind of an hour long kind of prep call. 212 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:23.559 So it was me, a right wing rabbi friend of 213 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.600 mine who lives in Jerusalem, pays off Willicky, a couple 214 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.919 of his producers, and there was one Christian pastor and 215 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.919 that was basically it. And Charlie had a list of questions. 216 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:34.039 You know, how do I respond when the students asked 217 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:38.679 me about starvation, famine, genocide, borders, two state solution, this, 218 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.440 that there. But the mere fact that he was seeking 219 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.200 our council, I mean, communicated on a virtually daily basis 220 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:48.639 through this active group chat and one on one. The 221 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.559 fact that we were doing that, along the fact that 222 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.120 he had that particular zoom call with people like me 223 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:57.240 the night before he was killed, I think really profoundly 224 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.279 calls into question this narrative that he was getting ready 225 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:05.080 to renounce his well established lifelong support for the Jewish people, 226 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:06.120 for the state of Israel. 227 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.399 I need you to think to yourself why that is 228 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:13.600 now the obvious and seemingly or somewhat benign answer is that, well, 229 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.559 he's just a propagandist. He's just a paid propagandist for Israel. 230 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.240 And maybe it's that simple, but I'll tell you what 231 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:24.039 I feel about it. I feel like that's really really suspicious. 232 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.919 How could you not be suspicious of that? You have 233 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.759 a guy who built his empire, the Tpusa Empire, over 234 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.919 a dozen years or whatever it was, much of which 235 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.720 was being done with Zionist donor money, be that Jewish 236 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.679 Zionists or the Christian evangelicals that have a similar worldview 237 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:47.840 when it comes to Israel. And Charlie Kirk in these 238 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.399 messages is saying, just lost another major donor two million 239 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.080 dollars out the door, and I'm not going to be bullied, 240 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.399 and I have no choice but to abandon the pro 241 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.080 Israel cause. 242 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.720 So Charlie writes in this group chat, just lost another 243 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:05.120 huge Jewish donor two million a year because we won't 244 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.279 cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace. Somebody writes, oh, 245 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.679 Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. 246 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:19.279 I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving 247 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:22.720 me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause. 248 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.600 So again, this is forty eight hours before Charlie cobsasaity. 249 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.039 He was very clear, and he was very explicit, and 250 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.879 he did not back down out in that Hampton's meeting, 251 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.799 which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread. 252 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.720 I'm not going to reveal the names of the other seven. Actually, 253 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.559 you know what, I disagree with myself four seconds ago. 254 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:42.559 Let's just throw in Josh Hammer for fundzies. 255 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.320 He's on this chat, okay, instead of just telling the 256 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:49.039 truth about that, which is the obviously right thing to do. 257 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.840 If you're actually interested in justice for your friend, well 258 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.159 then say, yeah, Candace is right. He was having a 259 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.120 hard time. Donors were pressuring him because of his platforming 260 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.679 of Tucker carl and Dave Smith, et cetera, and his 261 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.320 relationship with Candace, and they wanted him to part ways 262 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.039 and he refused and they started to rip funding from him, 263 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.600 and yeah he did. He talked about you know, they 264 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.080 could have spun it. They could have said, well, he 265 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.360 was just you know, venting, and he was thinking, maybe 266 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.039 I gotta go a different direction because I gotta keep 267 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:18.799 the doors open. But he still loved Israel, like they 268 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:19.480 could have spun it. 269 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.279 That way. They didn't. He just lied. 270 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.000 He just lied overtly, over and over and over again 271 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:32.919 during an active murder investigation. He lied about a glaring 272 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.360 potential motive for him to be taken out. If you 273 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.879 find that acceptable on any level, there's something deeply wrong 274 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.960 with you. And I'm referring to James Lindsay and all 275 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.320 these other pro Israel pundits that have absolutely lost their 276 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.120 mind in any sense of or semblance of justice in 277 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.960 their concern with this story, because that is a huge 278 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:59.639 misdirect that in the early hours of an investigation, everything matters, 279 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:04.200 All of the pertinent information about potential motives matters so much. 280 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.559 And we're talking in just a few days after and 281 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:10.679 all of these people stayed quieter. They lied, but not 282 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.440 one of them did not stay totally quiet though, And 283 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:15.159 this is an important thing for you guys to know. 284 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.799 Andrew Colvitt came out. He was basically, you know, the 285 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.879 pr rep for TPUSA and Charlie's kind of right hand man. 286 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.480 He acknowledged on his show yesterday that these texts were real. 287 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.320 That's how we know factually that they are. 288 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.759 That was a text grab, a screen grab that I 289 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.240 had shared with people. So it is authentic, and I 290 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.600 want to go into it because I actually am really 291 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.519 excited that the truth is out there. 292 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.360 And basically what he says in it is that he 293 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:47.240 had screenshotted those messages and sent them to a government official. 294 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.799 I wanted to not betray my friend's trust in that way, 295 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.480 but I did share it with some people in government 296 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.519 because it happened really quick. It was you know, it 297 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:59.600 took thirty three hours for authorities to get their suspect, 298 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.759 and that in those first moments, we wanted no stone unturned, 299 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.159 We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So I shared it 300 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.679 with a few people. Don't know where it went from there, apparently. 301 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.639 But here we are, so I don't know if that 302 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.320 was FBI or what, but clearly he thought that they 303 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.519 were pertinent. And I want you to really take a 304 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:27.080 minute with that fact that Andrew Covid, Charlie's second in command, 305 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.960 more or less, had these messages and he thought that 306 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.639 they were meaningful enough that he screenshoted them and he 307 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:38.320 and he sent them to law enforcement. So everybody coming 308 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:40.840 out in the aftermath of Candice Owns dropping these receipts 309 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.919 and saying this proves nothing. This is irrelevant. This doesn't 310 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:47.799 tell you anything. One of his best and closest confidants 311 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.720 screenshotted them and sent them to law enforcement right after 312 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.159 Charlie was killed. Why would he do that if he 313 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:56.240 thought it was irrelevant. 314 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:57.600 He didn't. 315 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.919 He thought it was relevant, thought it was a potential lead. 316 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:06.000 That's not Candace Owens. That's not Dave Smith or Ian 317 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.400 Carroll or Clint Russell. This is not anyone who's anti 318 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.799 Israel by any stretch of the imagination, at least not 319 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.559 that we know of publicly. Who thinks that the fact 320 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.680 that he was having funds pulled from TPUSA by a 321 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.680 pro Israel donor and that he had decided that he 322 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.079 had no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause 323 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:28.119 was an interesting tidbit that law enforcement needed to know 324 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:32.599 about when it came to his murder, his public assassination. 325 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.799 He thought that not me. So does that fact matter, 326 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.039 You bet your fucking asst does. I don't know if 327 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.160 there's anything that matters more. It may be the lead 328 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:47.039 potentially that opens this case up. And Candace Owens had 329 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:49.519 these screenshots in the week after I don't know how 330 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.480 many days after Charlie Kirk was killed, and she was 331 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.039 talking about it openly, and guess what she did. And 332 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:59.160 this is so fucking brilliant. I'm left almost speechless about it. 333 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.400 In hindsight, it is now obvious that Candis Owans had 334 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.119 these screenshots of these messages when she first started talking 335 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.440 about it, and she did not put that put those 336 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.200 out because she wanted the seven people on that chain 337 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:16.359 to go out and defend it and see how they acted. Now, 338 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.680 Candis has been dragged through the mud mercilessly for kind 339 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.799 of stringing this along and not putting it out rapidly. 340 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.400 And I understand I was actually very frustrated she wasn't 341 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:28.359 putting out proof sooner. But in hindsight you got to 342 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.400 really respect what she was doing. Because Candas owns wants 343 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:34.599 justice for Charlie Kirk. I believe that strongly. But she 344 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.079 is not an investigator, she does not have subpoena power, 345 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.119 she is not law enforcement, right, so what does she have? 346 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.240 She has a bully pulpit, She has an enormous platform 347 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:45.599 by which she can apply pressure. 348 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:46.920 So what does she do? 349 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.920 She puts out unverified claims about this text message chain, 350 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.680 and unverified claims as to Charlie's mentality when it came 351 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.920 to a multitude of issues when it largely regarding Israel, 352 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:02.559 and she makes it clear that there are other people 353 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.039 that know this factually, and she just continues to apply pressure, saying, 354 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.960 I want them to publicly disavow me. Do it, and 355 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:15.359 these pathological, lying sociopaths do because they have no self control. 356 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.799 They come out just week after week blasting her for 357 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.400 almost an entire month, just trying to destroy her reputation, career, 358 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.960 everything else. And then once everyone has basically given up 359 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.920 on her actually dropping these receipts, she goes, oh, here 360 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.240 you go. Here they are. Now you get to see 361 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.519 how full of shit some of these people that were 362 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.720 in Charlie's inner circle are. Now we don't know who 363 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.160 all seven of these people on the chain were. My 364 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.079 understanding is that basically three or four of them we 365 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.400 don't know it at this point, and she's promising that 366 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.680 she's gonna release them day to day. I don't know 367 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.480 if that's true. I'm not sure it's really particularly relevant. 368 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.319 But what we do know is that Andrew Covidd was 369 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:57.759 on it because he acknowledged it. Josh Hammer was on 370 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.000 it because he lied about it. Again, Yeah, he was 371 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:03.880 on that chain. And then I think she also said 372 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.559 that the pastor who came out and criticized Candace and said, 373 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:08.920 I wish you would be the friend to him that 374 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.079 Charlie was to you and not do this. So yeah, 375 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:16.599 basically we've got one person behaving semi honorably because he 376 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:18.480 at least turned it over to law enforcement, though he 377 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:20.680 did not come out and defend Candice Owens, which I 378 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:24.640 think is cowardly. And then we've got two overt liars. 379 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:28.039 So you now know that his second in command, Andrew Covid, 380 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:32.000 he believed that these messages were important enough that they 381 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.759 could be a potential motive or at least of interest 382 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.319 to the investigation. We know that for a fact. And 383 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.759 we also know that Josh Hammer and that pastor believed 384 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:44.240 that this was damning enough that they needed to go 385 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:45.200 out and lie about it. 386 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.920 As he was preparing for his campus tour, he decided 387 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.000 that he wanted to have a meeting. Josh Hammer was 388 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.680 on the call, you know, Josh and I was on 389 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.400 the call and a couple of Charlie's staff to talk 390 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:58.799 through Israel issues. He was really grappling with these issues. 391 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.559 I know that he's also having meaningful conversations with people 392 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.759 who are anti Israel, and that's and that's fine, and 393 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.680 he's going to do that, and that's all part of 394 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.000 who Charlie is. He's going to expose himself to every 395 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:08.960 to everything. 396 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.640 I remember right after October seventhough I was a little 397 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.240 concerned about some of the things he was saying afterwards, 398 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.039 and I wasn't so emotional. I realized Charlie was looking 399 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.960 at a lot of the Israel America stuff through the 400 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.319 America first lens. I was looking at it through my 401 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.519