WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.280 It's nice size. 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:05.960 Dan rays Undone, Boston, some news radio. 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.240 All right, we have surprisingly entered now our third hour 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:16.559 talking about the possible comeback of COVID, And for those 5 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:18.480 of you who are just joining us from around the 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:24.199 country and from around New England, we expected to do 7 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:28.519 an hour on this topic. We have done much more 8 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:32.200 than an hour, as you can tell. The reason that 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.679 I was interested in this was I noticed that the 10 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:40.560 federal government has now decided to send out free COVID kits. 11 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.320 They're not available now but by later this month, and 12 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:45.960 today is obviously the twenty third of September, so within 13 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.159 a week you'll be able to sign up, and just 14 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.719 as it has in the past, sent out COVID test 15 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:53.880 Now I don't know that that was done a year ago. 16 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.000 Maybe someone remembers it or not, but it struck me 17 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.840 a little odd. And I've seen an uptick in the 18 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.119 number of new cases and the number of new deaths 19 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.680 here in Massachusetts. And I read some materials that said 20 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.319 that COVID was coming back. Now maybe it comes back 21 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:13.959 just because it's late summer, early fall. I don't know. 22 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.000 Bottom line is, I'm asking people, and we've had a 23 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:19.840 lot of different points of view tonight, which is what 24 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:25.319 I think makes this show the most interesting. We could 25 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:28.159 talk politics every night, but I try to find different topics. 26 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.120 So we had intended to talk a little bit today 27 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:35.200 about some of the information that was disclosed at the 28 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:39.400 federal hearing today of the second Trump Assassin. We may 29 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.280 get to that later, but in the meantime, if you folks, 30 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:44.319 as I say, you folks, want to talk about it, 31 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.799 let's keep rolling. I'm going next to my good friend 32 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:50.200 Betty on the boat. Betty in the boat, you were 33 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.959 next on nights side. How are you tonight? 34 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:55.680 Coming home from cribbage? 35 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:56.400 How'd you do? 36 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.400 I want all the man just that I play, And 37 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.120 I have no. 38 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:07.280 Idea how to play cribbage, but I'm I'm sure it's entertainment. 39 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.479 Is this with just friends or do you go somewhere 40 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.719 and really compete against strangers? 41 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.800 Well, tonight it was a social group, and tomorrow night 42 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:25.039 I play with the American Cribbage Congress in Olington. Really yeah, okay, I. 43 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.400 Gotta look this up and figure out what I've heard 44 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.639 of it, But I wouldn't know. 45 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.719 I'd be glad to give you some points and teach 46 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.719 you how to play. 47 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.479 If only I was back in Boston, Betty, I'd come 48 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:41.199 out and sit in the boat and learn with you, but. 49 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.840 Glad to teach you. As far as COVID goes, it's 50 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.800 not going away. It's not ever going to go away. 51 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:56.479 It's here to stay. That my feeling is is that 52 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.719 my doctor turned around and looked at me, and he said, 53 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.960 would you like a COVID shot? And I said, would 54 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.439 you like me to give you one? 55 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.199 That's a great comeback. What did he say? 56 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.280 And he went, oh, no, no, no, no, no no. 57 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.639 I said, you're not touching me with that stuff. I 58 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.800 don't believe that the vaccine has properly been vetted. I 59 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.919 don't think that they truly know the dynamics of what 60 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.159 they're dealing with. And it will never be here. It 61 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:32.199 will be here forever, like the measles and the momps 62 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.120 and diphtheria, all that stuff is still here. Yeah, they 63 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:40.080 can put it into an arrest by drop of vaccines. 64 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.879 But this in a year, they get COVID. In a 65 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:48.599 year they get your vaccine. But nobody knows long term 66 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.759 effect of the COVID the vaccine. 67 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:54.319 Let me ask you, when you were a kid, did 68 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:55.840 you get a polio shot. 69 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.439 No, my mother was a nurse. She brought the vaccine home, 70 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.840 put the class syringe in the night in the ice box, 71 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.599 and when she woke up in the morning she found it. 72 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.800 I'd smashed the syringe with a hammer. 73 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:18.639 You were a precocious little girl, Okay. So, I mean 74 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.920 we had beaten polio in this country because of Jonah 75 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.800 Sack and the pol But they. 76 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.480 Did the proper research, they dug in deep. 77 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:33.680 Why did you beat the syringe with a hammer. 78 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:39.160 Betty, I'm needlephobic, Okay, Well in that case, okay, I 79 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:40.600 thought you were a Presbyterian. 80 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.519 You told me at one point. 81 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:43.399 No, I'm Jewish. 82 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.079 I'm only teasing you. Just easy. 83 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.040 Right now, I feel as though I'm running a Jewish 84 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.360 delicate testage on my boat from my cat. 85 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.000 Hey, you gotta have some companionship on that boat, you know. 86 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.240 I I do. And she's in nineteen years. She's only 87 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.839 been off the boat one night and two months ago 88 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.759 she was diagnosed with renal failure and it's driven by anemia. 89 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.079 And I researched it and I have a medical background, 90 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:19.839 I'll be honest with you. And Meyer had her bloods 91 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.759 drawn ten days ago and her vet said I don't 92 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.199 know what you're doing with this cat, lady, but keep 93 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:35.959 doing it. And you know who my vet is? I think, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 94 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.160 And he said just keep doing it. And he called 95 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.560 today we have a weekly check in, and he said, 96 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:48.079 how's she doing. I said, she's eating chopped tiver, chopped egg, 97 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.439 chopped salmon, chopped chicken. 98 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:52.120 Chuck. 99 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:55.920 I'm going to count to the boat, not to learn cribbage. 100 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:57.279 I'm going to count to the boat to eat with 101 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:57.720 your cat. 102 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.160 And I give her and I give her fluids every 103 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.160 night under the skin and she's humming. 104 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.480 Can you imagine? Can you imagine what the culture shock 105 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.560 must have been for your cat to bring her off 106 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.000 the boat for like the first time in nineteen years. 107 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.600 Man, I didn't take her anywhere. The vet came to 108 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:20.120 the boat. 109 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.399 Okay, but you told me she's only been off the 110 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.240 boat like one night in nineteen years. 111 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:30.040 Right, correct. Yeah, she was in the hospital with tank reotitis. 112 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.560 No. I understand that, but I'm saying it's still quite 113 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.600 a culture shock for the boy. Cat probably figured where 114 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.240 am I? I mean, my entire world is on this boat. 115 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:44.399 Yeah, and she's running around, jumping and you know, just 116 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:48.720 good she has rebounded well. But this whole thing with 117 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:53.000 COVID is it's an unknown quantity. I had a friend 118 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:57.120 have a cat who had a vaccine on Friday. He 119 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.199 has been throwing his guts out ever since if he 120 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:01.040 had the vaccually. 121 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:06.839 Okay, again, I believe it should be everybody's individual decision. 122 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:14.240 And well as I see it, informed consent is necessary 123 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:19.639 to control this. And I have never had the flu. 124 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:24.480 I've never had pneumonia, never had grounkitis, and I'm seventy 125 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:25.319 eight years old. 126 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.279 You will you living on the boat, it has to be. 127 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.040 That's that salt air, Betty. I'm up on my break 128 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.480 and I got to run. Please give give your your 129 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.920 cat a little pet in the head for me tonight, Okay, 130 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:36.519 I would. 131 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.240 Really I give you an extra chicken liver, right, fair enough? 132 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:43.680 Hey, Betty is always great to talk. Great to you 133 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:44.839 your voice. Thanks so much. 134 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.720 Stay here, fob, I talk soon. 135 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.199 I go and take a break. The only lines that 136 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.399 are open right now, and they are wide open at 137 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:53.800 six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty. The others 138 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.120 are full, so if you'd like to jump in six one, seven, 139 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.759 four ten thirty. I got Joe and I got Paul, 140 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.399 Paul and Pennsylvania's next, followed by Joe and then we'll 141 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.040 have some room for you. As they say, we can 142 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.000 take this to the end, or we can switch topics. 143 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.920 You decide. It's as simple as that. Back on Night's 144 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:11.959 Side right after. 145 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.839 This, Now back to Dan Way live from the Window 146 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:19.439 World to Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 147 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.800 Keep rolling you with Paul down in Pennsylvania where abouts 148 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:29.399 in Pennsylvania tonight Paul Well Spury, Wilke Spury, Okay, Home 149 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.759 of the Year, Triple A, Triple A team. 150 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.919 Down there right yeah, back in the back in the spray. 151 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.000 I Uh, I had a series of strokes, so I 152 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.080 ended up in the hospital. And what happened was when 153 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.480 I was in the hospital, I got backed at sepsis 154 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.720 plaumonia and I had a heroic fact infection and I've 155 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:53.360 half COVID shots every year and the boasters had pneumonia shots. Well, 156 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:54.799 when I was in the hospital, you know, you don't 157 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:56.960 too much walking in the hospital you're sitting there, and 158 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.039 with those strokes, I had a hard time walk them. 159 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:01.720 So they sent me to a nursing home about a 160 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.159 week before I was supposed to get out of the 161 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.159 nursing home. I got a new roommate and all he 162 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.399 did was cough And I asked his wife, I said, 163 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.879 does he have COVID or ampic sheep? You know bevill 164 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.600 did I know? And I asked the nurses for a mask, 165 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.200 and I wore a mask for one or two days. 166 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.000 And you know, people were looking at me and like 167 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.120 I was from outer space and things. And what happened 168 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.080 was I an you took the mask off? Or right 169 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:26.919 before I was supposed to get out of the nursing home. 170 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.960 He was coughing and worse and worse. And they did 171 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:32.559 a test on me, not not the swamp like you 172 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:34.720 see where with the test gets the THEA sent it 173 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.559 out to the lab and I had COVID. And it 174 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.399 was the third time I had COVID. I had two 175 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.679 years ago, I had it last year, but this time 176 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.799 it was worse than that. For a whole week, I 177 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.000 could hardly get out of bed. All he did was 178 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:49.840 Coppen Steve and I just laid around and eventually I 179 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.200 got out of the nursing home. Thank god the physical 180 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.480 therapy people. But these people, you know, COVID? Does you 181 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.039 know I've had? Like I said, I had it twice, 182 00:09:58.039 --> 00:09:59.559 and I had all the shots, and I had all 183 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:02.519 the uh uh uh the boasters, and I still got 184 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.840 a dad and I was I was really uh, I 185 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:06.559 was really sick. 186 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:12.639 Who man, ah, that's frightening. How are you doing these days? Okay, 187 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:13.720 I have. 188 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.679 To use a cave from that line. But other than that, 189 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:16.240 I'm okay. 190 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.720 So, so do you blame COVID or do you blame. 191 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:23.759 Some other No, I don't. I don't. I don't blame anything. 192 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.759 But this gentleman that came in the room, he was 193 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.080 copying the gag and and you know, I asked his wife, 194 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:30.480 I'm I'm not blaming him either. You know, he couldn't help, 195 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:32.639 but he got it. But but it's just one of 196 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:33.480 those things. 197 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.240 Well, the hospital should have should be a little responsible. 198 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.519 They should have isolated him. 199 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:42.320 No, No, that wasn't at the hospital. That was the 200 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:47.759 nursing home hospital. The hospital sent me to a nursing home, right. 201 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.480 But I'm saying the nursing home should have isolated him. 202 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:52.840 Well, they ended up the whole the whole way out 203 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.799 was in. They ended up closing the whole way down 204 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.039 and everybody had to wear mandatory masks. Before I left 205 00:10:58.399 --> 00:10:59.399 Oh boy. 206 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.320 I'll tell you about that. That's some judge. That's a 207 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.919 bad judgment for Oh. 208 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.159 Yeah, I just thank god, I just thank god. I'm 209 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:08.360 all dan, I don't complain. 210 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.679 I'm with you, Paul, and I thank god you called, 211 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:13.720 and I thank god you're listening to Night Side. Thank you, 212 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.559 my friend. I appreciate it very much. Keep calling the show. 213 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:17.679 Thank you. 214 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:21.639 So you're very welcome. All right. Six one, seven, two, five, four, 215 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.679 ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 216 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.200 The question of the evening so far has been is 217 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.080 COVID making a comeback? It's kind of simple, kind of straightforward, 218 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:36.600 and I'd love to have you participate. Uh if Joe 219 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:39.080 is next, and I got wide open lines after Joe, 220 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.759 let me go to Joe in Boston. Joe, appreciate you 221 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:43.399 taking the time. How are you, sir? 222 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:44.559 All right, thank you. 223 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:47.399 So what do you think you think COVID's making a 224 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:48.039 comeback here? 225 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:53.840 Well, yeah, I do have that probable glory. However, I'm 226 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.320 mostly called because I'm a little skeptical about Unfortunately, someone 227 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.919 who's a well meaning skeptic in the line hour, I 228 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.399 think they may have sown some confusion by accident. I 229 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.480 looked up what I thought in the past and got 230 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:12.159 some confirmation. One of the sites that came up was 231 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:16.039 the Cleveland Clinic and it was saying, I think that 232 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.320 the PCR test is the accurate test, or it's accurate, 233 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.879 and it's not the one you get at home. At 234 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.080 least maybe you can start it at home, but it 235 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.960 takes a few days to get the answer back from 236 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:30.960 a lab, so it's not the rapid test. 237 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:36.039 Is that the one that obviously when the when the 238 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:42.000 portable test the home test kits came through. What I 239 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.799 had always believed was that there was a more accurate test. 240 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:50.919 The home test kits could be inaccurate because you're doing 241 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.960 it yourself. You know, you got to stick that swap 242 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.200 up your nose and twirl it around twenty three times 243 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.600 or whatever it is, and then you got to make 244 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.080 sure that you put the right amount of it's you're 245 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.399 doing it. It's a self test. I thought that the 246 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.559 PCR test, or if that was, what would jarmo where 247 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:11.440 you went to a clinic and they actually did the test. 248 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.960 They had to nurse or someone do the test for you. 249 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.840 It cost you more money, but I thought it was 250 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:18.559 more accurate. 251 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:23.080 Well, I'm not sure if the PCR test is something 252 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.320 that can be done at home by and then sent 253 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:27.360 to a lab, but it takes a few days. It's 254 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:32.120 not the rapid test. The antigen test was the contrasting one, 255 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.879 and I thought she was saying that it was more accurate. 256 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.440 But I'm not sure that there are things that you 257 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.480 can interfere with either one of them. If you take 258 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:44.360 it before the virus load builds up, then neither one 259 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:48.879 might detect it. However, the other thing I read on 260 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:53.120 the Internet and Things Reasonable was saying that the most 261 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.159 home tests are the antigen test, so I think she 262 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.360 was saying the PCR was less accurate, and I maybe 263 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:01.039 it may be the other way around. 264 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.559 I'm looking at the same thing that you looked at 265 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:08.200 from the Cleveland clinic, uh, and it says a PCR 266 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:13.919 test is a medical test employing the polymerase chain reaction technique, 267 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:18.440 frequently used to detect small quantities of DNA specific to 268 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:23.240 a pathogenic agent in blood or other bodily fluids. Workers 269 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:27.120 in vital sectors need to undergo PCR test every seven days. 270 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:32.600 So I suspect that your point, Joe, is pretty well taken. Again, 271 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.440 I think that the call of that that you were 272 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.600 referring to was actually Rachel from Somerville, and it was 273 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.919 very clear to me that Rachel did not believe in 274 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.039 any of the COVID testing, which is her right. Okay, 275 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.879 but I thank you for calling back and clarifying that 276 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.639 a little bit. That's that's pretty helpful, to be honest 277 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:52.840 with you. 278 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.240 Okay. I think you actually had the same idea I 279 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:57.159 did before a call. 280 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.279 Yeah, yeah, well again, what but my feeling is on 281 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.840 night side. I'm not an expert on everything, and people 282 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:05.519 have a chance to say what they you know, if 283 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.120 somebody wants to call me up and tell me that 284 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.960 the Earth is flat, I think we figured that one out. Okay. 285 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:12.399 If they want to call me up and tell me 286 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.440 that the sun rises in the west and sets in 287 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.120 the east, yeah, I'll disagree with them. I try to 288 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:23.759 give people, particularly when they're expressing a viewpoint, a pretty 289 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:28.240 wide birth. If they're if they're you know, specifying a 290 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.120 fact that I know to be untrue, then I'm going 291 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.600 to challenge him. And because I don't want my audience 292 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.879 to think that if someone says to me, you know, 293 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.840 you know, the first president of the United States was 294 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.679 Abraham Lincoln. I just can't sit there and say, well, 295 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.320 that's their opinion. That might be their opinion, but that's 296 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.759 factually inaccurate. So you know what I'm saying. I try 297 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.320 to be a congenial host for the most part, though 298 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.639 sometimes that congeniality disappears, but. 299 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.360 It gets it gets tested, test, get. 300 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:03.960 Tested some nights, that's for sure. Whereabouts in Boston, show 301 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.919 you're calling from you in the city or one. 302 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:07.919 Of round around. 303 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.399 Fair enough, Okay, we'll leave it like that, Joe. I 304 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:14.159 appreciate you taking the time to call. Have a good one, Okay, 305 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.639 good good night. All right. So I think we may 306 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.320 have run the course. I did not think we were 307 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:23.720 going to get two and a half hours out of 308 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.120 the conversation about COVID. But I will tell you that 309 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:33.120 I promise that I will stay on it. And if 310 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.519 in the next few weeks or the next couple of months, 311 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.600 we see COVID going continuing in the direction that I 312 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.399 am fearful of, we'll let you know. If, on the 313 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.720 other hand, there is a spike here in the last 314 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.720 couple of weeks that perhaps turns back in the other direction, 315 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.720 we'll let you know that as well. So The other 316 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.799 subject that we had wanted to talk about tonight is 317 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:04.240 the the arraignment today of this I want to call 318 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.839 him a nutjob, but I don't know that you can 319 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.559 call Ryan Ruth Ruth whatever his name is, a nutjob, 320 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:19.519 because this guy had planned for months, if not years, 321 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:25.119 to attempt to assassinate former President Trump, and at his 322 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.480 arraignment today and again the arraignment was not for the 323 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:32.079 attempt at assassination, although I think it's pretty clear, very 324 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.240 clear to me, that is exactly what the guy should 325 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:44.359 be facing. Okay, this guy Routh actually wrote a note 326 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:49.720 to a friend of his, okay, and left the note 327 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:56.119 and some other materials in a box. And in that 328 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:02.000 box they found a handwritten list dates in August, September, 329 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:08.559 and October of this year and venues where the former 330 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.359 president had appeared or was expected to appear, according to 331 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.400 the memo. Agents found six cell phones, including one that 332 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.319 contained a Google search of how to travel from Palm 333 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:25.200 Beach County to Mexico. Twelve peers of gloves. I assume 334 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:29.839 those are sort of the gloves that hide fingerprints, a 335 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.799 Hawaiian driver's license in mister Raalt's name, and passport. We 336 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.319 knew he lived in Hawaii in their memo, I'm reading 337 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:39.920 now from a New York Times piece from earlier today 338 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:46.279 by Glenn Thrush and Adam Goldman. In their memo, prosecutors 339 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:50.400 also noted mister Roalt's extensive criminal history, saying he was 340 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.559 convicted on multiple counts of possessing stolen goods twenty In 341 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.880 two thousand and two, he was charged in North Carolina. 342 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:02.200 We're possessing a weapon of mass death destruction, a felony, 343 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:06.279 no kidding. Court documents described the weapon as a binary 344 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:11.559 explosive with a ten inch detonition and detonation and blasting cap. 345 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:16.119 He was convicted and placed on supervised probation for sixty months. 346 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:28.240 How absurd is that? So I particularly don't like anyone, really, 347 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:31.079 I don't like anyone who tries to interfere with our 348 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:35.079 electoral system. And whether his name was Sierran Sirhan or 349 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:42.440 Lee Harvey Oswald or this guy Ryan Routh, these are 350 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:46.319 people who take it upon themselves to change the course 351 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:52.000 of history. And guess what you do not have. You 352 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.119 do not have the right to change the course of 353 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.880 history in the United States of America by assassinating or 354 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:02.680 attempting to assassinate and he potential leader Democrat, Republican or 355 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:09.039 Independent in this box, this nutjob and how many more 356 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.839 nutjobs are out there? Wrote a note which was addressed 357 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:21.200 dear world. According to the time, this now is an 358 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:24.839 Associated Press article. No, this is Boston Global article. Excuse me, 359 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.759 dear world, which appears to be have been premised on 360 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.400 the idea that the assassination attempt would be unsuccessful. He wrote, 361 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.000 this was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but I 362 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:40.240 failed you. I tried my best and gave it all 363 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.359 the gumption I could muster. Who the hell is using 364 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.119 the word gumption anymore? It is up to you now 365 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.640 to finish the job, and I will offer one hundred 366 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.920 and fifty thousand dollars. Why not make it Ryan three 367 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.599 hundred thousand because you don't have it. I have no 368 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.759 idea where your money came from. I have no idea 369 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:00.880 how you could travel the world, how you could go 370 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.319 to Ukraine and try to recruit people to go to 371 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.759 Ukraine to fight. Maybe it did have an one hundred 372 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.640 and fifty k to whommever can compete can complete the job. 373 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:16.519 The notes that according to prosecutors, we have talked about 374 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:21.799 the first assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, in which the 375 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:24.960 president former president was wounded and if he had not 376 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.400 turned his head at a certain angle at a certain 377 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:32.960 moment in time, he would now longer be with us. 378 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.880 What's going on in this country? Why is it that 379 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:44.480 we have nut jobs? Nut jobs? And you started the 380 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:52.759 congressional softball baseball game practice a few summers ago, you've 381 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.400 seen it. There were other political figures in this country 382 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:02.920 who were who were assassinated. You don't have to be 383 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:07.599 a president to be assassinated. Uh, You had other presidential 384 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:11.039 candidates who were who were shot in assassinate obviously Robert F. Kennedy, 385 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:16.200 junior President Kennedy, Doctor Martin Luther King, Governor George Wallace 386 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:22.960 who was attempted assassination on him, a Congressman from New York, 387 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:30.599 Alan Lowenstein, Gabby Giffords, the congresswoman from Arizona who survived 388 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.079 but his bat was badly injured by a crazed lunatic. 389 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.160 We're at the where are the authorities? How is it 390 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.920 that no one ever took a look at this guy 391 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:47.720 with all the the personnel we have in the FBI 392 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:51.680 and the c I A and the Secret Service. No 393 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.880 one could have This guy was on no one's radar. 394 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:01.240 It it troubles me. It troubles me because I'm afraid, 395 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:03.400 and I don't care who it is. I mean, this 396 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.400 has got nothing to do with Donald Trump. It's got 397 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.039 everything to do with Donald Trump, but it's got nothing 398 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:09.359 to do with Donald Trump. He's a pretty lucky guy 399 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:12.519 to have survived two assassinations. But I don't want to 400 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.039 see any more of it. Uh, And I don't know 401 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.720