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<v Speaker 1>Canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Not your favorite Republican influencer, the meeting between President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and President Putin that could have resolved the war between

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<v Speaker 2>Russia and Ukraine. Owen's Pearson Sharp joins us in moments

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<v Speaker 2>to analyze the situation in that ongoing conflict. Plus Schumer's

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<v Speaker 2>government shutdown just became the second longest in history. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got Azoria CEO James fishback here to explain how the

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<v Speaker 2>markets are reacting and what to expect for the economic

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<v Speaker 2>future of a government in shutdown. And the left is

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<v Speaker 2>freaking out about White House renovations?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that real?

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<v Speaker 2>Oen's chief White House correspondent, Daniel Baldwin will join us

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<v Speaker 2>this hour to tell us about President Trump's plan to

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<v Speaker 2>build a gilded ballroom for America's Golden Age. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>next to the Matt Gates Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the fever.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever watch this guy in television?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a machine.

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<v Speaker 3>He's great Matt Gates.

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<v Speaker 2>As we join you this evening, our attention turns to

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<v Speaker 2>the on going war between Russia and Ukraine. Russian forces

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<v Speaker 2>have intensified drone and missile strikes on civilian energy infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>in northern Ukraine, killing at least four and leaving hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>without water or power. I'm sorry, that's hundreds of thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. Meanwhile, European states like Ukraine are crafting

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve point peace proposal that would freeze current battle

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<v Speaker 2>lines and place a US chaired board under President Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump to oversee the implementation of a peace plan. We

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<v Speaker 2>have real questions about whether or not the United States

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be the Homeowners' Association of Eastern Ukraine determining

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<v Speaker 2>who can go where and plant what flag. Then there

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<v Speaker 2>is the meeting now that won't happen. President Trump indicated

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<v Speaker 2>he was willing to meet with President Putin in Budapest

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<v Speaker 2>in the coming weeks. The stage was set for Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and Putin to meet, shake hands, and just maybe put

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<v Speaker 2>a band aid on the bleeding mess that is the

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<v Speaker 2>Russia Ukraine War. But then poof canceled faster than a

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<v Speaker 2>bud Light sponsorship at a country music festival. Trump wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to freeze the battle lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin refused.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and Zone Pearson Sharp was recently at the front

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<v Speaker 2>lines of this war in the Dominus region. He joins

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<v Speaker 2>US now so Pearson. When I saw the Budapest meeting canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll admit I was discouraged because I believe that President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and President Putin have the ability to end this war.

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<v Speaker 2>Why was Putin unwilling to accept Trump's terms for a meeting?

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's kind of putting all the blame

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<v Speaker 4>on Putin, and well, I am to be clear, well,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, yeah, well not surprising, but to be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>before we even start, we don't actually know what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what was said, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>the terms were. And to be clear, I'm hearing from

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<v Speaker 4>people in Russia that the deal is actually still on,

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<v Speaker 4>the meeting is going to happen, and that all of

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<v Speaker 4>this is disinformation in the West is trying to shut

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<v Speaker 4>these meetings down.

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<v Speaker 1>And breaking some news for you to give credit to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Victor Orbun of Hungary said the meetings are still on

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<v Speaker 4>and they're still going to have happened. The date hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>been seid or, he hasn't announced a date anyway, but

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<v Speaker 4>he said they're still ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kil Dimitrio again, to be clear, you're you were recently

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<v Speaker 2>in Russia, You're well sourced in Russia, and what you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying is their officials who are close to the Russian government.

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<v Speaker 2>There are media officials in Russia who still expect this

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, Yes, and what they believe is actually there's

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<v Speaker 2>some folks on the American side trying to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>The way of that piece, trying to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>But that archetype which you just described, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>is all that dissimilar to some of the tomfoolery we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the Middle East, where President Trump is constantly

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get the decision makers in the room to

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<v Speaker 2>carve out peace, and there are people who want to

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<v Speaker 2>continue violence.

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<v Speaker 4>We have warhawks who want to keep this going. But

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<v Speaker 4>Kirol Dmitriev came out and said that this is still

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<v Speaker 4>ongoing and don't believe the media.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see. I don't know what the facts are,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what's being said.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, then then my blame directed at Putin is this,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe he has been sufficiently willing to work

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump to be Trump's partner in this peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Plan, Like, why is this stupid war still going.

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<v Speaker 4>On because their terms haven't been met. What we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>right now is a one sided story. All we're getting is, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the West offered the olive branch and Putin refused.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants war. We don't know that. The question is

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<v Speaker 4>what kind of peace and on whose terms? Because Putin

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<v Speaker 4>and Russia from the beginning have outlined what their requirements

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<v Speaker 4>are for peace, and at this point they want a

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<v Speaker 4>reduction of sanctions, They want recognition of the Donbass region

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<v Speaker 4>as Russian.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at this point it would be like if the.

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<v Speaker 4>US had to give up Texas to solve a border war,

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<v Speaker 4>like that may be realistic. That's not California, but well, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but from Russia's point of view, that's what they're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at this like, they don't this is their territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should they have to give it up?

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<v Speaker 4>And to say okay, we're going to freeze the fighting

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<v Speaker 4>right here wherever it is, doesn't give them the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>They want relief from sanctions, they want these security guarantees,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have this image that Russia is constantly attacking.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if Trump offered piece yesterday and Russia is

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<v Speaker 4>bombing Ukraine today, what we don't hear is Ukraine is

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<v Speaker 4>also bombing Russia. They just attacked a school, They're bombing civilians.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't get reported. So it's all very one sided.

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<v Speaker 4>Both sides are you know, their fingers are dirty at

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<v Speaker 4>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But we only ever hear one side of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Putin has a vision for peace in this circumstance,

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<v Speaker 2>known't why doesn't he agree to the terms to get

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<v Speaker 2>eyeball to eyeball with Trump to work those things out, Because,

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly Pearson, I don't think this is about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is the battle line a few kilometers this way or

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<v Speaker 2>a few kilometers that way. I think what Russia actually

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<v Speaker 2>needs is a security structure in Europe that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can live with. Yeah, and that includes a buffer.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes that buffer is going to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of geography. But I think there are diplomatic buffers

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<v Speaker 2>that can be provided to like not admitting Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 2>a NATO would be a dimblematic great and see.

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<v Speaker 4>It, we're not offering them that, We're not offering them anything.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just saying Trump put it on truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump put on truth social that Ukraine wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>join NATO. Trump was doing everything he can to end

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<v Speaker 2>this war, and I look at Putin as somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wonder is he trying to externalize his

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<v Speaker 2>own conflict.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we Again, I don't think we know

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<v Speaker 4>what the details are. But the fact is that we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen a lot of very good progress recently. Last week, Marco,

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<v Speaker 4>Rubio and Lavrov had a great talk. Then we had

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<v Speaker 4>Trump and Putin had a great talk. And after that

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<v Speaker 4>talk it was so good in fact that Trump took

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<v Speaker 4>Tomahawk missiles off the table for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would be a terrible idea about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Could just take a moment on that if we were

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<v Speaker 2>to give Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, the risk of accidents,

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of escalation.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident, Well, I don't think it would be an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean is you could have a circumstance

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<v Speaker 2>where Ukraine wasn't even launching Tomahawk missiles, but there could

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<v Speaker 2>be an accident in an assessment there that would result

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<v Speaker 2>in escalation, Like the fog of war can create accidents

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<v Speaker 2>just in perception. And I think when you start injecting

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<v Speaker 2>Tomahawk missiles into this fight, you don't make an end closer.

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<v Speaker 2>You make it more likely that this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an escalatory environment, Like right now, is it a

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<v Speaker 2>de escalatory environment, an escalatory environment, or does this just

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<v Speaker 2>keep rolling on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somewhere in the middle, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Why should Putin stop At this point, He's winning, They've

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<v Speaker 4>gained three thousand square miles of territory just this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He is winning.

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<v Speaker 4>Ukraine is losing, and there's no reason for him to

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<v Speaker 4>stop what he considers a matter of national security securing

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<v Speaker 4>Ukraine's borders. And the other thing that I want to

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<v Speaker 4>point out that nobody is talking about, Russia is in

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<v Speaker 4>a position where the United States and NATO, which formed

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<v Speaker 4>an ally to basically combat Russia a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 4>we have over one hundred bases, military bases, airfields right

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<v Speaker 4>on Russia's border all through Europe. We have thousands, tens

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<v Speaker 4>of thousands of troop military equipment, missiles pointed out Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>The United States of America has over one hundred nuclear

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<v Speaker 4>weapons in Europe pointed at Russia. Meanwhile, Russia doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>any basis on our borders. So who is actually being

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive in this situation. Russia is trying to secure their

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<v Speaker 4>national sovereignty and Ukraine is a big part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think no one's discussing this. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question, why should Russia stop because this is

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<v Speaker 1>bad for business for them?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Russia's end state should be re onboarding to the

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<v Speaker 2>global financial love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sure, but they have to stop shooting at Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to give them a reason to do that. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, that economic cooperation I think can be

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<v Speaker 2>the bedmark of the reason. That's obviously how Trump views

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these foreign policy questions. He believes economic

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<v Speaker 2>cooperation is step one to broader peace and broader just

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<v Speaker 2>recognition of another entity's opportunity and right to exist.

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<v Speaker 4>They would love to open up at this point, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're not hurting right now. The sanctions from my experience

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<v Speaker 4>in there, have not affected the people. You ask anybody

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll say what sanctions. Their economy is growing. Things

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<v Speaker 4>look very good for them at this point. They're building

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<v Speaker 4>ties with other people. We're pushing them away, they're establishing

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<v Speaker 4>internal independence. So on top of that, they're gaining territory

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<v Speaker 4>in Ukraine. They are achieving their objectives.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that Russia worries about further isolation from

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<v Speaker 2>other allies? I look at Finland. You know, Finland was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a rocky relationship forever, but a rocky relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>But Finland was never considering joining NATO before this conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're a member of NATO. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>that makes Europe any safer. It it could create more

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<v Speaker 2>of this encirclement dynamic that's led to violence. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if that's just the front end to the wave,

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<v Speaker 2>and if there are concerns with Russia that other countries

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<v Speaker 2>would be more willing to.

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<v Speaker 4>Isolate them, probably at some point, but again, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of national security and life and death for them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they're going to back down on this

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<v Speaker 4>issue unless we give them these absolute guarantees that they've

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<v Speaker 4>been asking for from the beginning. From the beginning, they've

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<v Speaker 4>been asking for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to take a meeting to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Piac Yeah, so if.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, you know this meeting's off. You're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>there still is an appetite for it in Hungary and

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an appetite to get together and work this thing

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<v Speaker 2>out on President Trump's behalf. So when do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it will happen? What's the timeline and horizon you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>I think within the next couple of weeks, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're still going to see a meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the key change in circumstance you think that

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, there's so much happening inside this that we don't see.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Trump and Putin have a much greater understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of each other and the situation than we appreciate from

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<v Speaker 4>this perspective. But like this non paper that was apparently

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<v Speaker 4>released by Russia, you know, we leaked that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>So all of this, I think is a propaganda war.

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<v Speaker 4>Russia is saying the meeting's still on, We're saying the

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<v Speaker 4>meetings off, and I think it's everybody's sort of posturing

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's worked on me because I'm admittedly annoyed that

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<v Speaker 2>that end state that I think it looks like some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of buffer for Russia, some sort of agreement that

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<v Speaker 2>Russia is included in Europe's security strategy, not isolated as

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<v Speaker 2>a consequence of it. And then cooperation in the areas

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<v Speaker 2>where we can cooperate in the Arctic resource extraction, countering

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<v Speaker 2>radical Islamic extremism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are.

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<v Speaker 2>Obvious areas of cooperation, and I think it would benefit

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<v Speaker 2>you've kind of described comes to an end very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Pierson Sharp the best sourced man in what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a big special coming up on One American News,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to bring the viewer inside your trip

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<v Speaker 2>to Russia, the incredible people you met, the incredible interdus.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for it. Pierson, Thanks Rap, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>being on the program. And coming up we will discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the economics of the ongoing shutdown with James Fishback. He's

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<v Speaker 2>thing keeps rolling along. As Chuck Schumer tries to bring

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Matt Kaves Show, where government shutdowns

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<v Speaker 2>are just another form of intermittent fasting for Washington, but

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<v Speaker 2>instead of losing weight, we're just watching Senate Democrat leader

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<v Speaker 3>And Chuck Schumer is he's got I think he's mentally gone.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been beat up by young radical lunatics.

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<v Speaker 2>The shutdown is costing about one hundred and forty million

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<v Speaker 2>could be real impacts from that. Wall Street, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is watching this like a Netflix drama. Markets dipped slightly

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<v Speaker 2>early in the week, but we have seen rebounding once

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<v Speaker 2>traders realize that the irs might be closed. They've already

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<v Speaker 2>The last time Washington shut down this long, Stock's actually

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe the.

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<v Speaker 2>Real stimulus plan is just keeping Congress out of the

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<v Speaker 2>So James, how are markets going to react if this

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if a tree falls in the forest and no

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<v Speaker 6>one's there to hear it, Matt, did it really even

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<v Speaker 6>make a noise? I mean, looking at the markets, there's

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<v Speaker 6>concerned about it. In fact, the markets may actually be

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<v Speaker 6>celebrating the prospect of another round of doge, that President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump is actually using this opportunity to once again streamline government.

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<v Speaker 6>And so all eyes are on the Friday CPI report,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the inflation report that's coming out now, one week

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<v Speaker 6>too late from a guy, of course, who goes by

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<v Speaker 6>too late. But the big picture, Matt, is no signs

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<v Speaker 6>that the markets are concerned about the government shutdown, or

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<v Speaker 6>that the average American is The average American keeps their

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<v Speaker 2>I get that President Trump has ameliorated a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the economic harm that could have come to the shutdown

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<v Speaker 2>by ensuring that a lot of essential workers continue to

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<v Speaker 2>district shutdowns were never fun because when the military is

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<v Speaker 2>there starts to be some pressure on the lawmakers to

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<v Speaker 2>get it resolved. Do you think that any of these

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<v Speaker 2>will ever feel pressure at any point in time if

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's tools to ameliorate those those economic pressures are

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly right, Matt, And you know that you are

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<v Speaker 6>who represent Northwest Florida. But to the big picture here,

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<v Speaker 6>this is the only downside, of course, to President Trump

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<v Speaker 6>coming up with novel solutions to dealing with the Schumer shutdown.

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<v Speaker 6>Will you bring up in particular, is using terror prevenue

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<v Speaker 6>It does take away the accountability mechanism which is pissed

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<v Speaker 6>off constituents all over our home state of Florida or

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<v Speaker 6>anywhere in the country calling up their Democratic congressman saying, wait,

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<v Speaker 6>why are you in bed with Chuck Schumer and AOC

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<v Speaker 6>our government and to do right by the people. And

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<v Speaker 6>so that is the only downside of President Trump's novel

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<v Speaker 2>It does sound like you're saying a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>But if someone believed that there wasn't really going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a come to reason moment for Chuck Schumer and

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump is certainly not going to be held hostage.

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<v Speaker 2>As he said the other day, like, what are the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you bet on? What are the stocks you

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<v Speaker 2>pick if you're betting for the shutdown.

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<v Speaker 1>To go on, promont.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great question, I think you. It's actually not

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<v Speaker 6>what you necessarily pick, Matt, it's what you want to avoid. Anybody,

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<v Speaker 6>like a government contractor a defense contractor that relies on

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<v Speaker 6>the large ESTs and the abuse and the exploitation of

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<v Speaker 6>the taxpayer by the appropriators, they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 6>in good shape because they're not getting any money. And

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<v Speaker 6>so it's less about what you would buy and more

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<v Speaker 6>about what you would avoid it. So you think of

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<v Speaker 6>the big defense contractor names that for far too long

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<v Speaker 6>have profited on these pointless foreign wars, they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>be in big trouble at the shutdown continues, and they

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<v Speaker 6>should be because they've profited for too long on taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the supercharged powers that the Office of Management

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<v Speaker 2>and Budget has under a shutdown, and it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>they've drawn a bead on some of those foreign expenditures.

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<v Speaker 1>But are there expenditures here at.

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<v Speaker 2>Home domestically that you would advise Russfode and Dan Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>to take a real hard look at during this time

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<v Speaker 2>when they've got the ability to end things that aren't working.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, there are a range of programs. You think about

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<v Speaker 6>USA and all the boondoggles that were sent ver Sias,

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<v Speaker 6>but there are a range of domestic programs, whether it's

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<v Speaker 6>for LGBT youth or phone lines for DEI, whatever it

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<v Speaker 6>may be. If there is literally a dollar to be

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<v Speaker 6>saved these riff reduction in force, whether it's actually going

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<v Speaker 6>in and ripping up particular expenditures, they should absolutely do it.

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<v Speaker 6>And anything that could be contested, push for it. Let

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<v Speaker 6>the courts rule on this, and we can take it

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<v Speaker 6>all the way up to the top where you know, Matt,

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<v Speaker 6>we've got that six to three majority because of President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's leadership in his first term and your stern support

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<v Speaker 6>for good constitutional justices, and so I say push the

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<v Speaker 6>envelope here. But the Democrats have to own it. If

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<v Speaker 6>they don't want to see their pet projects defunded, they've

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<v Speaker 6>of the day, the public debate the marketplace of ideas.

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<v Speaker 6>Let them defend whether it's the health insurance subsidies that

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<v Speaker 6>apparently we're supposed to only be around for a year

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<v Speaker 6>that are now getting extended into perpetuity. They have to

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<v Speaker 6>actually own own up to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about those healthcare subsidies. It does seem that's

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<v Speaker 2>the principal demand of Democrats at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are COVID era.

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<v Speaker 2>Subsidies like they when they were put in place, the

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<v Speaker 2>notion that they were going to live forever wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>part of the promise. Now they're suggesting that, like healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>in America itself, is going to crumble if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have an extension of COVID subsidies and Obamacare subsidies. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that they're like, when does the market start

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<v Speaker 2>to react to the piling up debt and deficits from

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<v Speaker 2>the spending demands that are coming principally from Democrats.

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<v Speaker 6>That is the million dollar question. Perhaps it's even the

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<v Speaker 6>thirty seven trillion dollar question, if we want to get

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<v Speaker 6>pecific to the national debt figures.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt.

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<v Speaker 6>What's amazing, though, is there's nothing more permanent. And you've

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<v Speaker 6>seen it on the inside, you know how the sausage

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<v Speaker 6>is made. There is nothing more permanent in DC than

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<v Speaker 6>in a temporary emergency government subsidy. These were COVID era

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<v Speaker 6>healthcare emergency subsidies that might have made reasonable sense at

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<v Speaker 6>the time, given how little we knew in the first

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<v Speaker 6>couple of weeks, it very became quickly clear that this

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<v Speaker 6>is not what we thought it was or what the

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats wanted to push on us, the alarmists. But how

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<v Speaker 6>are we the unreasonable ones for pushing back on it,

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<v Speaker 6>for saying, no, we don't need to spend hundreds of

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<v Speaker 6>billions of dollars to prop up the failed Obamacare regime.

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<v Speaker 6>And at the end of the day, what I think

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<v Speaker 6>Centerpublicans have proposes a great step forward is Democrats reopen

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<v Speaker 6>the government, stop voting for the shutdown, and then we

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<v Speaker 6>can have a separate debate, a separate vote on these

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<v Speaker 6>health insurance subsidies. And if you actually have the merit

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<v Speaker 6>and the evidence behind your argument, then you can win

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<v Speaker 6>in the court of public opinion and translate that support

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<v Speaker 6>and sentiment into votes on the House and Senate floor,

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<v Speaker 6>and so they stop holding the government hostage. That is

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<v Speaker 6>the real problem. Let's have an open and separate debate

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<v Speaker 6>about healthcare substanies, which we know we're going to win that,

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<v Speaker 6>but don't hold our service members at gunpoint over this

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<v Speaker 6>government shutdown fiasco.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like they're taking the position that the

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<v Speaker 2>air traffic controllers shouldn't be paid so that they could

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<v Speaker 2>argue how long a COVID subsidy lasts.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And again you're right at the when you said at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of our discussion that a lot of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>are still going about their lives, the economies humming along

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<v Speaker 2>because President Trump just hasn't stopped. But if you really

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<v Speaker 2>look at the medium and long term impacts of what

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are doing, I actually think it could have

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty significant impact.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sick if that was the point of all this,

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<v Speaker 2>if they actually want to see negative economic impact, because

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<v Speaker 2>so many of the policies that you've been advocating for

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<v Speaker 2>that we talk about of President Trump are working. James Fishback,

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<v Speaker 2>CEO of Zoria, thanks for coming on and explaining your

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<v Speaker 2>position on this.

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<v Speaker 1>We always appreciate your expertise.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Matt, and coming up, we'll check in on the

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<v Speaker 2>state of democracy. It turns out there are a number

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<v Speaker 2>of liberals whining that democracy isn't really democracy if it

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<v Speaker 2>results in figures on the right winning elections. Alan Baccari

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<v Speaker 2>has been following the matter closely for the Foundation for Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Online, and he's here next.

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<v Speaker 2>Last evening, we learned from Congressman Jim Jordan that the

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<v Speaker 2>House Judiciary Committee is referring Obama CIA director John Brennan

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<v Speaker 2>for criminal prosecution based on lies he told when I

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<v Speaker 2>was questioning him.

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<v Speaker 7>You're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to lie when you're under oath in front of the

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<v Speaker 7>United States Congress. And it looks like that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 7>John Brennan did. And one of the individuals he lied

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<v Speaker 7>to is the host of the Matt Gays Show. When

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<v Speaker 7>you asked him, I thought a great question about the dossier,

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<v Speaker 7>and he said, I had no involvement with the dossier.

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<v Speaker 7>He told the committee that he didn't want the dossier

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<v Speaker 7>in any way referenced in the Intelligence Community assessment.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what.

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<v Speaker 7>Tulsey Gabberd released the classified version she declassified the Hipsie report,

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<v Speaker 7>and it says just the opposite. It says Brennan was

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<v Speaker 7>up to his eyeballs with the dossier that.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually put in writing. He wanted it in the report.

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<v Speaker 7>And the best one was when another CIA official came

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<v Speaker 7>to mister Brennan and said, you know, mister Brennan, there's

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<v Speaker 7>no intelligence to support the dossier. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>be in this report. He says, yeah, but doesn't it

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<v Speaker 7>ring true, which I think got to his motive. He

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<v Speaker 7>was out to get the president.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So clearly what Jim Jordan just described, there is

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<v Speaker 2>an attack on democracy that occurred as democrats, we're accusing

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<v Speaker 2>us of attacking democracy, But some are asking what the

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<v Speaker 2>state of democracy even looks like in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>If it looks like this, I'm probably out.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what democracy looks like. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>democracy looks like. This is what democracy looks like. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what democracy.

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<v Speaker 5>Looks what.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what alone and sad looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>A new article published by the Foundation for Freedom Online

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<v Speaker 2>analyzes liberal pundits arguing that when populist leaders are overwhelmingly elected,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow that isn't democracy. We aren't so sure about that.

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<v Speaker 8>Many devotees of MAGA, you themselves is supremely committed to

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<v Speaker 8>democracy and democratic self government, and the Republican Party in Alabama,

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<v Speaker 8>which is mega dominated, achieved sixty seventy percent results. I

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<v Speaker 8>think this goes to a bigger question that we haven't

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<v Speaker 8>really addressed as to whether democracy itself is a desirable

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<v Speaker 8>at least unfiltered, uncut democracy is a desirable form of government.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now Managing director of the Foundation for Freedom Online,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Bacari so Alim, it seems that after spending years

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<v Speaker 2>lecturing us about democracy, democrats and other liberals may not

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<v Speaker 2>be so into it after they've lost elections.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we to make of it?

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, we have this new report of the Foundation

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<v Speaker 9>for Freedom Online about the VP of Freedom House, which

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<v Speaker 9>was a US government back nonprofit. They get the majority

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<v Speaker 9>of their funding from the State Department eighty million dollars

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<v Speaker 9>in government grants in twenty twenty three alone, actually according

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<v Speaker 9>to the figures from that year, And one of their

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<v Speaker 9>vps was on a live stream a couple of months

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<v Speaker 9>before the twenty twenty four election that was literally titled

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<v Speaker 9>is democracy a democratic form of government? And you know,

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<v Speaker 9>you even watch the videos and our report, all the panelists,

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<v Speaker 9>including this VP, are saying, well, it's a huge problem

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<v Speaker 9>that populist are succeeding around the world. We need to

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<v Speaker 9>do something about this, We need to empower judges. The

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<v Speaker 9>VP of Freedom House himself talks about how populism is

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<v Speaker 9>dangerous and majoritarian and ethnically nationalists. And keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 9>this is a nonprofit whose sole purpose is to go

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<v Speaker 9>around the world country by country, putting countries on lists

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<v Speaker 9>and whether whether on the basis of whether they're democratic

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<v Speaker 9>or not. You know, this is a non profit that

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<v Speaker 9>talks about how El Salvador is democratically backsliding because it

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<v Speaker 9>clean up crime, or that Victor Auban's Hungary is democratically

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<v Speaker 9>backsliding because despite winning huge majorities, they kicked out George

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<v Speaker 9>Soros's ngngos. And here they are questioning, you know, with

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<v Speaker 9>literally our livestream saying is democracy, a democratic form of government.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't make this stuff up.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not enjoy watching Stanford beat Florida State University

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<v Speaker 2>in football, but when I left the game, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say I wasn't watching football, right, I mean, we are

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<v Speaker 2>watching democracy in places like El Salvador and in Hungary.

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<v Speaker 2>They are producing results that some elites in America may

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<v Speaker 2>not like. But in those countries those leaders are very

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<v Speaker 2>popular and that's why they keep winning. So we just

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<v Speaker 2>played this clip from the VP who says, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>have uncut democracy. So what is like what democracy look

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<v Speaker 2>like to them?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they use that phrase, they use unfiltered democracy. They

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<v Speaker 9>use the phrase guard rails guard rails as a particular

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<v Speaker 9>favorite term for them, and they use guardrails to this product.

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<v Speaker 9>There needs to be guardrails on democracy. You'll hear them

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<v Speaker 9>talk about them with social media as well. They need

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<v Speaker 9>to be guardrails on social media. They need to be

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<v Speaker 9>guard rails or artificial intelligence. And all they're talking about

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<v Speaker 9>is what can we do to ensure that our ideology

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<v Speaker 9>triumphs regardless of what the voters say, regardless of what

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<v Speaker 9>results electors turn up. And in the other clips you'll

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<v Speaker 9>hear them talking about how to empower judges to overturn

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<v Speaker 9>the will of the people in these countries where they're

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<v Speaker 9>not getting the election results they want. And this has

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<v Speaker 9>been a theme we've seen from these sorts of people,

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<v Speaker 9>these democracy experts. You know, how can we give more

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<v Speaker 9>power to judges to block what democratically elected governments do.

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<v Speaker 9>This is obviously the strategy they used at the start

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<v Speaker 9>of the Trump administration to block some of his big moves,

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<v Speaker 9>and they want to do it in on the concrees

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<v Speaker 9>as well. So that's what they mean by god rails,

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<v Speaker 9>that's what they mean by cutt and uncut democracy. They're

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<v Speaker 9>just talking about how they can dilute the results of

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<v Speaker 9>these elections.

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<v Speaker 2>Typically you put up guard rails to stop a car

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<v Speaker 2>from going off the road, but in this case, they

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<v Speaker 2>just don't like the fact that what is driving the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the will of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've observed frequently that the judiciary is like the

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<v Speaker 2>last bastion of what the elites control. What we've shown

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<v Speaker 2>is you can elect a populist congressman, you can elect

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<v Speaker 2>a populist US senator. We've even elected a populist United

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<v Speaker 2>States president, but it's very hard to get populist judges,

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<v Speaker 2>because the mechanism by which one becomes a federal judge

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<v Speaker 2>or an appellate judge is typically you know, you're the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the local bar association. Both of your senators

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to not issue a blue slip, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>credentialing process there that is often out of reach of

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<v Speaker 2>populist legal minds. Is is that something that needs reform

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<v Speaker 2>in order to get in front of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>barriers to democracy that some of these some of these

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<v Speaker 2>like fascists masquerading as democratic promoters would would have us believe.

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<v Speaker 9>I think so they do have a massive advantage here

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<v Speaker 9>just in terms of recruitment, just because you know, the

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<v Speaker 9>whole system is so heavily tilted towards especially the education

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<v Speaker 9>system as well. Right law schools they just churn out

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<v Speaker 9>liberal judges and liberal lawyers, and there are these huge

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<v Speaker 9>nonprofits that exist as well to support liberal, liberal justices.

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<v Speaker 9>It's very part of them is very heavily weighted in

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<v Speaker 9>one direction. And I think I agree that that is

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<v Speaker 9>that that is a massive problem. It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 9>but the positive thing is it's sort of the last

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<v Speaker 9>straw that they're grasping at because they know they've lost

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<v Speaker 9>the democratic argument. They know they don't have the dominance

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<v Speaker 9>of the legacy media anymore to promote their narrative. Who

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<v Speaker 9>set the agenda, because that's been that's been a whittled

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<v Speaker 9>way by independent media like OAAN, by social media, by podcasters,

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<v Speaker 9>by so many other things. So you know, this reliance

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<v Speaker 9>on judges is kind of a last straw for them,

643
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<v Speaker 9>and it can only work so far when they don't

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<v Speaker 9>when they don't control the information environen.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what populists on the left are thinking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I am often criticized when I take positions that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>are contrarian to the Republican zeitgeist, and people will say, oh, well,

648
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<v Speaker 2>like you're against surveillance, you're on the same side as

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<v Speaker 2>ilhan O mar or you know you're for banning congressionals

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<v Speaker 2>dock trading. That's something AOC believes. I never minded working

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<v Speaker 2>with left wing populists to achieve the objectives that I

652
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to achieve, But in this case, like the way

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party is moving, is definitely away from the

654
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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer types and more toward the Zoron Mamdani archetype.

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<v Speaker 1>Are leftist populists.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to accept this viewpoint that the real democracy is

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<v Speaker 2>a democracy where the voting is really just a recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the day, the elites get

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<v Speaker 2>to make the operative decisions.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, look, I think leftist populist would be a disaster

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<v Speaker 9>in many ways. I think Zoram Mandam would be a

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<v Speaker 9>disaster for New York. I think Jeremy Corbyn would have

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<v Speaker 9>been a disaster in the United Kingdom. But there's no

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<v Speaker 9>doubt that a lot of these tactics that have been

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<v Speaker 9>used to shut up and thwart the populist right when

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<v Speaker 9>they've been successful in elections have also been used against

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<v Speaker 9>the populist left. Or just thinking about Jeremy Corbyn, and

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<v Speaker 9>again he would have been a terrible prime minister in

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<v Speaker 9>my opinion. But you take an organization like the Center

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<v Speaker 9>for Countering Digital Hate, which was used to promote censorship

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<v Speaker 9>in the United States on social media, including of RFK Junior.

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<v Speaker 9>They put him on a list of disinformation agents during COVID.

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<v Speaker 9>They were set up actually to go after Jeremy Corbyn

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<v Speaker 9>and the populist left in the UK, and that's how

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<v Speaker 9>that's their origin story. And then they then turn their

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<v Speaker 9>attentions to the populist right in the US, and obviously

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<v Speaker 9>you know there are other cases. Bernie Sanders famously famously

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<v Speaker 9>screwed over by the DNC on many, many occasions, despite

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<v Speaker 9>the fact that he was so popular, probably the single

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<v Speaker 9>most popular candidate in some of these contests. So you see,

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<v Speaker 9>you see the same attempts to thwart democracy against the

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<v Speaker 9>populist left as well. So it's something and online censorship

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<v Speaker 9>as well. Like I said, the Center for Countering Digital

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<v Speaker 9>Hate in the UK initially went after Jeremy Corbyn, so

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<v Speaker 9>it really is used against both.

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<v Speaker 2>Science there seems to be a lot of skepticism about

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<v Speaker 2>centralized power among young people on the political left and

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<v Speaker 2>on the political right. As you analyze the right and

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<v Speaker 2>the left in the United States, which movement do you

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<v Speaker 2>think centralizes power most and which is democratizing power most.

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<v Speaker 9>It's hard to say, really, but I mean, because you

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<v Speaker 9>have you have this deep steak right, A lot of

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<v Speaker 9>the pressure for online censorship came from government agencies, and

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<v Speaker 9>most of that was frankly targeted against the first Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 9>That's when all of this arose. In fact, some of

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<v Speaker 9>the research on this you look at how often government

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<v Speaker 9>grants cite disinformation as their reason for existing, and it

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<v Speaker 9>basically doesn't exist before twenty sixteen. But after twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 9>you see hundreds and hundreds of government grants with disinformation

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<v Speaker 9>or misinformation in the name. So all of this pressure

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<v Speaker 9>for online censorship to blunt populist movements happened because Trump

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<v Speaker 9>won that election. So there's definitely a partisan's sense of it,

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<v Speaker 9>because the populist right has been more successful at winning elections.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what the censorship industry, that's what the democracy experts

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<v Speaker 9>who want to thought democracy have focused on.

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<v Speaker 2>You begin this discussion by pointing to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the entities that we're talking about, you know, how to

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<v Speaker 2>sand the populist edges off of actual democracy, had received

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<v Speaker 2>government funding. You know, we now are in this shutdown.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems the Office of Management and Budget has supercharged

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<v Speaker 2>powers to be able to terminally end some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that cost taxpayers a lot of money over time.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you assess the Trump administration's approach to rooting

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<v Speaker 2>out the funding of the censorship industrial complex.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, they came in on day one and pasted an

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<v Speaker 9>executive order saying government money can no longer go to

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<v Speaker 9>entities that promote online censorship, whether it's through disinformation studies

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<v Speaker 9>or anything else. And Freedom House is another great example

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<v Speaker 9>because this is a nonprofit that was set up off

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<v Speaker 9>the World War Two basically by the government and has

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<v Speaker 9>been primarily funded by the State Department throughout its entire existence,

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<v Speaker 9>and its entire existence owed to the fact that that's

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<v Speaker 9>an arm of US influence because it help it's help

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<v Speaker 9>perpots to pinpoint and condemn other countries that aren't aren't

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<v Speaker 9>to toeing the line, as it were, and they're the

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<v Speaker 9>countries that get called anti democratic. They're the countries that

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<v Speaker 9>get called accused of democratic backsliding. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 9>El Salvador's at least example of this, but they lost

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of their funding because Donald Trump cut USAID

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<v Speaker 9>at the start of his administration and a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>their funding came from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so interesting that they like in places like

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<v Speaker 2>El Salvador, where the people show up and are just

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely overwhelmingly happy with the leadership of President bukel A

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<v Speaker 2>and his party, they continue to vote for him, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet you hear this criticism as a consequence of result.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a certain there's a certain tag. They use

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<v Speaker 2>illiberal democracy, right, that's well, that might be a democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an illiberal democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the slight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the vision for democracy that they would

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<v Speaker 2>present is what is it? Is it more like what

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<v Speaker 2>we see in the UK, where you do have hate

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<v Speaker 2>speech laws and empowered judges. Like the folks that hold

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<v Speaker 2>these views, what is the kreme delacrame of democracy in

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<v Speaker 2>their mind? If the people showing up and overwhelmingly voting

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<v Speaker 2>for President Trump or President Bucelly somehow offends their sensibilities

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<v Speaker 2>on democracy.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh that certainly love hate speech laws, no doubt. I

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<v Speaker 9>will say one thing about the UK. Judges are actually

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<v Speaker 9>not very powerful in the UK because Parliament is sovereign

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<v Speaker 9>and Parliament has the ability to completely reform the judiciary

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<v Speaker 9>if it wants to. In fact, one of the proposals

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<v Speaker 9>from Reform UK, which is the new insurgent populist party

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<v Speaker 9>in the UK, that is really troubling this faction, this

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<v Speaker 9>anti democratic faction, is the fact that on one of

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<v Speaker 9>their first actions is going to be to withdraw from

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<v Speaker 9>the European Convention on Human Rights, and that is the

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<v Speaker 9>European law which has empowered judges in the UK to

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<v Speaker 9>block things like deportations. But because the judiciary is not

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<v Speaker 9>actually an independent third branch in the UK as it

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<v Speaker 9>is in the US, Parliament can do that as long

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<v Speaker 9>as the House of Common passes a law saying we're

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<v Speaker 9>withdrawing from this where reforming the judiciary, there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 9>can really stop that. So that's the other thing I'll

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<v Speaker 9>say there. Not every country is the same in terms

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<v Speaker 9>of the balance of powers between the judiciary and the legislature,

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm saying the UK it's actually chilted quite heavily

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<v Speaker 9>in favor of the legislature.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems though the commentators that we're critiquing now

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<v Speaker 2>just want to tilt it in favor of the judges

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<v Speaker 2>and away from the actual vote of the people. Aliabapari

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation for Freedom Online. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us and sharing your perspective.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, for one hundred and fifty years, they've wanted a

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<v Speaker 3>ballroom here.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a ballroom. We have a little cocktail area.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, if I do this again, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>a ballroom built in. We're putting up our own money

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<v Speaker 3>with the government just paying for nothing. You probably hear

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<v Speaker 3>the beautiful sound of construction to the back. You hear

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<v Speaker 3>that sound, Oh that's music to my ears.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that sound. Other people don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, Josh. I think when I hear that sound,

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<v Speaker 3>it reminds me of money. In this case, it reminds

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<v Speaker 3>me of lack of money because I'm paying for it.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's the appissore.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the ballroom builder in chief. That man knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to build a ballroom. I actually had my first date

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<v Speaker 2>with my wife in President Trump's ballroom, got engaged to

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<v Speaker 2>my wife right there outside the ballroom. So if anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>going to build ao a ballroom in the East Wing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad it's President Trump. He's touting his plan for

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<v Speaker 2>this bold renovation at the White House. They're demolishing the

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<v Speaker 2>East Wing to build this magnificent ballroom that would serve

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<v Speaker 2>as a beautiful place for elegance date dinners. President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is hardly the first president to propose or execute renovations

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<v Speaker 2>at the White House, but the Democrats and members of

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<v Speaker 2>the mainstream press have just gone into total meltdown over this.

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin News posted on X Ripping apart the White House

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<v Speaker 2>is just like he's ripping apart the Constitution. Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>piled on saying, quote, it's not his house, it's your house,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's destroying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>This from the same Hillary Clinton that was a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the administration that was renting out the Lincoln Bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>to donors. Trump's goal is to make this planned ballroom classy,

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<v Speaker 2>decked out with signature Trump touches like gold chandeliers, marble floors,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe even an iPad so he can dj a

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<v Speaker 2>view of few events himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Critics will whine about.

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<v Speaker 2>History history the East wings just like an add on

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineteen forties. It's not like he's painting over

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Rushmore for a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's all the hub ub about joining us now?

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<v Speaker 2>One American News chief White House correspondent Daniel Baldwin. So,

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel tell us about the plans for the new ballroom, Well.

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<v Speaker 10>Matt, I think there's a lot of fake outrage over

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<v Speaker 10>this from liberal media outlets and people who generally just

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<v Speaker 10>dislike the President and don't enjoy anything. I can tell

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<v Speaker 10>you from a reporter perspective, many reporters are actually happy

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<v Speaker 10>out of the ballroom, considering there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>different space issues for covering President Trump's event. I can

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<v Speaker 10>tell you firsthand. There was one event back in August

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<v Speaker 10>where President Trump decided to federalize the DC Police Force

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<v Speaker 10>and crack down on crime. Here in Washington, DC. The

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<v Speaker 10>President held a press conference in the James Brady Press

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<v Speaker 10>Briefing Room, and in order to get a decent spot,

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<v Speaker 10>I actually had to show up at six point thirty

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<v Speaker 10>in the morning, about four hours in advance of that

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<v Speaker 10>specific press briefing, just to get a decent shot at

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<v Speaker 10>asking the President a question. I succeeded but I had

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<v Speaker 10>to stand in place for a better part of five

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<v Speaker 10>to six hours, and I've never seen a room that

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<v Speaker 10>crowded before even the presidents that I've never seen the

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<v Speaker 10>briefing room this crowded. Considering the vast amount of media

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<v Speaker 10>interest there is and covering the White House under this administration,

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<v Speaker 10>there's been many people saying that we need bigger spaces

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<v Speaker 10>to hold events. Even the East Room is not big enough.

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<v Speaker 10>That's when the functionality of a ballroom that's allegedly going

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<v Speaker 10>to be ninety thousand square feet and have a capacity

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<v Speaker 10>of six hundred and fifty people, that's where something like

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<v Speaker 10>that was actually prove to be very functional. Matt and

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<v Speaker 10>of course the President, he's very much in his respective

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<v Speaker 10>zone or element here when it comes to constructing and

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<v Speaker 10>touching things up. We've seen it in the Oval Office,

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<v Speaker 10>We've seen it inside the Palm Room doors where he's

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<v Speaker 10>replaced tile. We've seen it with the Rose Garden. This

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<v Speaker 10>is just the latest piece of evidence with that, and

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<v Speaker 10>it's another opportunity that Democrats are taking to try to

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<v Speaker 10>attack the president shamelessly.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Baldwin will get there at midnight if you need

907
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<v Speaker 2>him to to get the Scoop That's why we Love You.

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<v Speaker 2>On One American News, Daniel talk about the utility of

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<v Speaker 2>this space to enhance America's soft power when hosting major

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<v Speaker 2>state dinners and bringing in global leaders.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, the Press Secretary has talked about this a little bit,

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<v Speaker 10>Caroline Levitt, emphasizing that sometimes when you want to have

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<v Speaker 10>events here at the White House, you need to rent

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<v Speaker 10>out this massive, ugly white tent and you got to

915
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<v Speaker 10>put it over the south lawn and you've got to

916
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<v Speaker 10>hope for good weather. This eliminates any type of issue

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<v Speaker 10>with that. When the President wants to have a event

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<v Speaker 10>bringing forth a lot of different people, he can now

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<v Speaker 10>once this ballroom, this majestic ballroom befitting a president of

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<v Speaker 10>the United States, the elegance and the opulence befitting the

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<v Speaker 10>world's biggest superpower gets put up, the president can have

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<v Speaker 10>events where he invites three hundred, four hundred, five hundred

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<v Speaker 10>people and appropriately allow the media to cover it. It's just

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<v Speaker 10>incredibly functional when you think about it, Matt, because when

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<v Speaker 10>there are events here at the White House, you know

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<v Speaker 10>you've been here for some of them. Space is at

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<v Speaker 10>a premium. It is undoubtedly a tight it's a tight

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<v Speaker 10>space here. And you know it may not seem that

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<v Speaker 10>way for people who are watching on TV, but the

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<v Speaker 10>press briefing room is tight.

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<v Speaker 1>The east room is tight.

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<v Speaker 10>Just areas when you walk around, you got to get

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<v Speaker 10>very comfortable being shoulder to shoulder with other media members

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<v Speaker 10>standing for long periods of time. This ballroom is incredibly functional,

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<v Speaker 10>not only for the president when it comes to event

936
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<v Speaker 10>planning and logistics, but it's also functional for the media

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<v Speaker 10>when it comes to being able to comfortably cover presidential events.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, Yeah, and this is not some big aggrandizement to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The ballroom is principally going to be used by the

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<v Speaker 2>presidents who come after President Trump, and they will get

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of it. And hopefully we don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>more who have such small crowds. They have to draw

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<v Speaker 2>those circles in the ballroom and have everyone eight feet apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is the estimated time for a completion.

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<v Speaker 10>There's no exact estimated time at the moment, but the

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<v Speaker 10>White House I think is hoping to get this done

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<v Speaker 10>before President Trump's term is up. Obviously that's very optimistic,

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<v Speaker 10>but you know, I don't think we've ever had a

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<v Speaker 10>president who quite understands construction like President Trump does give

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<v Speaker 10>in his background as a real estate developer in New

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<v Speaker 10>York City. Matt, So, as you know, the President is

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<v Speaker 10>very focused on making sure that the White House is

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<v Speaker 10>properly renovated and it looks the part, and it feels

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<v Speaker 10>the part, and I think he's going to do everything

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<v Speaker 10>he can to make sure that this is up and

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<v Speaker 10>this is part of the lasting legacy that Donald J.

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<v Speaker 10>Trump leaves in the White House for years to come.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think there might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of this that is trolling Chuck Schumer because as Schumer

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to bring the government to a shutdown here,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is out working on peace deals around the world

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<v Speaker 2>and even announcing new construction projects. There is an optimism

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<v Speaker 2>and an energy and an activity that just that won't

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<v Speaker 2>be shut down by anyone. Chief White House Correspondent Daniel Baldwin,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for being on the story, my friend. Thanks Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>and coming up in New York City, there is this

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<v Speaker 2>demand now to somehow get everybody to fall in line

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<v Speaker 2>behind Cuomo. We're not here for it, and neither is

969
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<v Speaker 2>our next guest Toefinal Forte of the New York and

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<v Speaker 2>Republican club, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We've noticed a trend online.

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<v Speaker 2>People started to wake up up to some of the

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<v Speaker 2>New York City mayoral canon. It's Zoron Mandami's actual views,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say, if you don't vote for Cuomo or

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<v Speaker 2>basically for a communist, I reject that frame. Zoron is

1005
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be elected. Maybe the people of New York deserve him.

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<v Speaker 2>He will probably fail, but so will Cuomo. Cuoma's already failed.

1007
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<v Speaker 2>It's loser talk to suggest that it's better to help

1008
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<v Speaker 2>Cuomo keep it close than it is to ride with

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<v Speaker 2>a more authentic Republican. Joining us to discuss the state

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<v Speaker 2>of the race. New York and Republican Club President Stefano Forte.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stefano, tell us, have people just given up to

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that Mamdani is gonna win? He's going to

1013
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<v Speaker 2>be your mayor and everybody just gets to cast their

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<v Speaker 2>protest vote for either Sliwa or Cuomo.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, thank you for having me on, Matt.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think that it's a protest vote at this point.

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<v Speaker 11>I think a lot of people are a bit dooming gloom.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that all the campaigns could be doing better

1019
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<v Speaker 11>and trying to make themselves viable against Mom Donnie. But look,

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<v Speaker 11>Mam Donnie has an energy behind him and this young

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<v Speaker 11>socialist movement that's trying to push him to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 11>But look, we're going to be doing everything we can

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<v Speaker 11>to get city council people elected in districts that can

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<v Speaker 11>hold Mamdannie accountable if he becomes mayor, and we're really

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<v Speaker 11>hoping that he does not. But Congress can step in

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<v Speaker 11>and act as well. In the New York Republican Club

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<v Speaker 11>put together a legal memo outlining how Mam Donnie could

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<v Speaker 11>be kicked off the ballot this November or denied entry

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<v Speaker 11>into Gracie Mansion. So these are all things that we

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<v Speaker 11>can do to stop Mam Donnie, I don't think New

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<v Speaker 11>York is done yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think you have a candidate that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to stop him from winning the election. And it seems

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<v Speaker 2>that your strategy, and it's a smart one, is to say, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the things we can do to ameliorate or

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<v Speaker 2>mitigate some of the worst features of his policy proposals,

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to constrain him legally and trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>good people in the city council.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are effective strategies.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, the reason I wanted you on the program,

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<v Speaker 2>stefan O, is that you came on earlier and you said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not buying into this whole. We have to all

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<v Speaker 2>fall in line behind Cuomo if we're going to lose,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'd at least rather lose with someone who's a

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<v Speaker 2>conservative rather than the people the guy who was killing

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<v Speaker 2>grandmothers when he was governor. And it got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>is this why, other than maybe Lee Zelden, we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had really promising campaigns come out of New York because

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<v Speaker 2>there's such a willingness to just like go with the

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<v Speaker 2>least worst option, and we haven't carved out the type

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<v Speaker 2>of like iconic Teddy Roosevelt type characters that have made

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<v Speaker 2>the Empire State famous in politics for some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, I mean I don't want to say that we've

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<v Speaker 11>kind of been settling.

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<v Speaker 8>I do love Curtis.

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis is a friend.

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<v Speaker 11>Of mine and he is truly an iconic New York figure.

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<v Speaker 11>I think you could place a lot of the blame

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<v Speaker 11>on the party apparatus itself. We need a better party

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<v Speaker 11>apparatus in New York. We need a party apparatus that

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<v Speaker 11>is going to invest in New York City. Saying that

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<v Speaker 11>we're just going to leave the cities, that we're not

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<v Speaker 11>going to try to be competitive in New York City,

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<v Speaker 11>that's utter nonsense. This is the mecca, the epi center

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<v Speaker 11>of culture in the United States. We cannot just abandon

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<v Speaker 11>New York City. And you know, I do believe that

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<v Speaker 11>next cycle we can have a very viable governor candidate

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<v Speaker 11>if we have great minds on the campaign that are

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<v Speaker 11>willing to be brave and courageous and do what's necessary

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<v Speaker 11>to actually win. And to your point on Andrew Cuomo, exactly,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm I'm not going Andrew Cuomo has done nothing to

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<v Speaker 11>try to earn my vote and there is a kind

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<v Speaker 11>of sentiment among Republicans where it's like, you're Andrew Cuomo,

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<v Speaker 11>You're not entitled to our vote. You're not entitled to

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<v Speaker 11>anything here. You've got to come to us and try

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<v Speaker 11>to make a deal of some kind, and he hasn't.

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<v Speaker 11>So if he's not looking to do that, then we're

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<v Speaker 11>not going to be holding water for Andrew Cuomo. We

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<v Speaker 11>owe him nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I worry that New York may be the front end

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<v Speaker 2>of the wave. We're starting to see these democrat socialist

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<v Speaker 2>candidates in places like Minneapolis and elsewhere emerge. What warning

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<v Speaker 2>would you give a city that might be the next

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<v Speaker 2>to have a rising socialist to emerge as a front

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<v Speaker 2>runner from mayor?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I'm going to go even farther than just cities.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm going to go for some of these rural towns

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<v Speaker 11>as well. This is a message truly to the entirety

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<v Speaker 11>of the United States. They are coming for everything. The

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<v Speaker 11>barbarians are at the gate. They will not stop at

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<v Speaker 11>New York City, they will not stop at Minneapolis. They

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<v Speaker 11>are going to go and slowly march through the entirety

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<v Speaker 11>of the United States. They want it all. They're not

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<v Speaker 11>stopping here that's all. We need to fight now and

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<v Speaker 11>win now to stop them from coming after so many

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<v Speaker 11>beautiful cities and towns in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephano Forte, president of the New York Young Republic Club,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the warning, best of luck, Thank you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all the time we have.

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