Speaker 1: You know my god shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh gosh, this love me when you get.
Speaker 1: Only nobody it was my garden. You don't know how
Speaker 1: to get close to me because when you don't why
Speaker 1: it was like keep it said, don't.
Speaker 2: The life of the body your on the you saw
Speaker 2: me on my funny, I say.
Speaker 1: For that is j Use. I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: to expect there. I was like, we got a deep cut,
Speaker 1: I got some new and then sorry you oh yes,
Speaker 1: because before everyone was so afraid no, no, you're good,
Speaker 1: you're good recording.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you love it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect. That was amazing. That
Speaker 1: was actually the best gift anyone's got me. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 3: Yours here.
Speaker 1: Oh they board. They bought a whole billboard for me.
Speaker 1: And I'm over here like, but I appreciate it because the.
Speaker 3: Mix man, that's crazy. Yeah, not for sure, man, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was talking to Fuse about these intros by
Speaker 3: the way tweets on the cruise show.
Speaker 1: We had it so especial, thank you guys, so fun
Speaker 1: you know, And.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Fuse about, you know, doing these intros.
Speaker 3: He does them for for the artists that pull up
Speaker 3: and you know, it takes time. It's it's days in
Speaker 3: the making, and it's hours in the making as well.
Speaker 3: And you know, Fuse cares about the music and the presentation.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you like so do you like Crash and Burn?
Speaker 1: Do you have a you put Crash and Burn in there?
Speaker 3: That's a yea yeah, it's in there.
Speaker 1: We have the Blast one in there, and we got
Speaker 1: then we got All Night Long. That's a crazy one.
Speaker 1: That was like the first one that like kind of
Speaker 1: go all over the place with it.
Speaker 3: You know, I was all, there's a lot of ground
Speaker 3: to cover of the music, right, you've been putting in
Speaker 3: that work. Congratulations, Wings is out, Wings is out. Wings
Speaker 3: is out, man, and it sounds amazing. The sound is out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're flying right like you wanted to be free. This
Speaker 3: was like a freeing. It was project for you especially,
Speaker 3: you know. Okay, So Coachella was a vibe that was crazy. Congratulations,
Speaker 3: first Vietnamese American to do so, right, let's get it. Congratulations.
Speaker 3: That's crazy because you know that there's other Vietnamese children
Speaker 3: or kids or adolescents or young adults watching you and
Speaker 3: and creating a path for themselves. Because of the path
Speaker 3: you've created for yourself.
Speaker 1: You said it like you couldn't have said it any better.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm very That was the first
Speaker 1: time that I was I actually told myself that I
Speaker 1: was proud of myself. And you know, when you're a
Speaker 1: child of immigrants, you don't say that a lot to
Speaker 1: yourself because the standards are always so high, and growing up,
Speaker 1: I was the first female in my family, and I
Speaker 1: felt a lot of pressure to always make my parents proud,
Speaker 1: and so my whole life I was really like never
Speaker 1: living for myself and never trying to make myself proud.
Speaker 1: But Coachella was that moment where I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is a super Bowl of like all music festivals.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm making history, and things might have not
Speaker 1: gone the way I had planned, but I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of myself for coming here, showing up, giving a show,
Speaker 1: like representing my community, and I think that that's really special.
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, after doing Coachella, you say it's like the
Speaker 3: super Bowl, right, and it is because it's one of
Speaker 3: the biggest stages in the world. After Coachella, was there
Speaker 3: something or someone nagging at you saying, all right, well,
Speaker 3: how do you top that.
Speaker 1: Literally, and I think that that. Honestly, I'm just being
Speaker 1: I'm like, haha, like I'm funny whatever, but like this
Speaker 1: is not that funny. But I definitely kind of went
Speaker 1: down a mental spiral of where because I always trusted
Speaker 1: my gut, like I never let anybody. That's why That's
Speaker 1: how I'm here is because I always felt like this
Speaker 1: is the best decision. And maybe in hindsight, looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I shouldn't have made that decision, but
Speaker 1: it got me to where I'm at because I trusted myself.
Speaker 1: After Coachella, it was like everybody wanting to work all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, or people wanting to like send me
Speaker 1: beats or all of a sudden wanting to write for me,
Speaker 1: and all these things, and people saying like, oh, you
Speaker 1: should dress like this, or you should collab with this person,
Speaker 1: you should do these things. When you have all those voices,
Speaker 1: you kind of stop trusting your gut, right And then
Speaker 1: there was a moment where I felt that pressure just
Speaker 1: take me down this wormhole where I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything, and so I would
Speaker 1: be in a studio and I was not created. I
Speaker 1: hated it. I hated it, and it took such a
Speaker 1: long time for me to finally find my drive again
Speaker 1: and my purpose, and like towards the middle of making
Speaker 1: the project was when I was like, oh shit, this
Speaker 1: is really fun again, you know, and yes again. But
Speaker 1: it was really scary because I think when you're at
Speaker 1: kind of top of your career, I think there's multiple
Speaker 1: top moments in your career, but you know, doing Coachalla
Speaker 1: was definitely like a top moment for me. When you're
Speaker 1: at that peak of your career and like all eyes
Speaker 1: are on you and you are on these articles and whatever,
Speaker 1: you feel a lot of pressure to to top it.
Speaker 1: And I think I let the I think the yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I let the pressure kind of almost
Speaker 1: bedridden me a little bit, where I was like, I
Speaker 1: just can't make the music right now because it feels
Speaker 1: like work.
Speaker 3: A I was gonna say, it starts to feel like
Speaker 3: work and you're being told what to do, and you
Speaker 3: don't want to be told what to do exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm so grateful that I found my
Speaker 1: stride and I'm like the projects out, I feel like
Speaker 1: this weight has been lifted off of me, where I'm
Speaker 1: just like I know, the project's good and it's gonna
Speaker 1: have its moment, but it's for the fans. It's not
Speaker 1: for me anymore. Yeah. Yeah, she's a Scorpio.
Speaker 4: She doesn't like being totally to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fine, Yeah, can I You can send me
Speaker 1: a list and I will think about doing it. But
Speaker 1: you know what, those Scorpios are very hard workers, like
Speaker 1: we're well, I mean.
Speaker 3: Wait, jack You're a scorpio. Yeah, yeah, Jackie has four jobs.
Speaker 1: That's exactly hustle. Like you know, you know, I used
Speaker 1: to work at the Kick and Crab. Then I used
Speaker 1: to also work on Sunset okay, and then I also
Speaker 1: used to work like a customer service for a spin company.
Speaker 1: So I was doing like I would be working multiple jobs,
Speaker 1: and then after I would be done with my like
Speaker 1: nine to five, I would create content or like make
Speaker 1: music or whatever it is. But like we've always been
Speaker 1: crazy and then grinding.
Speaker 3: At one point, you had to make a decision, right,
Speaker 3: it's either a life in healthcare or music. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you were at that four the road, I guess, and
Speaker 3: you went with your gut with two grand in your pocket, and.
Speaker 1: You went for I think I just it was really scary,
Speaker 1: but I think I was at a point in my
Speaker 1: life where I was like, damn, can I die today
Speaker 1: and be happy with like the life that I have,
Speaker 1: Because like, I love helping people. I've always loved to
Speaker 1: help people, and I think that's why I went towards
Speaker 1: the healthcare like route, also to make my parents proud,
Speaker 1: but I've always loved that aspect of healthcare and the
Speaker 1: medical fields of just like like you see people come
Speaker 1: in and they have this concern and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, like they leave feeling you know, relief or
Speaker 1: at least they have like the help they need. Difference, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I always felt like, could I do this for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life? And I was making music
Speaker 1: at the same time while I was working in the
Speaker 1: medical fields and I was literally shadowing a physician's assistant.
Speaker 1: I was doing everything that I needed to do to
Speaker 1: get into PA school. Then I missed my PA application
Speaker 1: date by a day. And at the same time I
Speaker 1: was also making music though, so I felt like I
Speaker 1: was kind of in two different worlds. And I knew
Speaker 1: my parents were gonna be so mad, Like I knew
Speaker 1: they were gonna be so mad, but I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a sign and I didn't think back then
Speaker 1: it was a sign I really thought my life was
Speaker 1: over right or had to start over again, Like the
Speaker 1: whole application process just takes forever already. Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 1: And then when a room opened up in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 3: Damn, should I just do it like a room?
Speaker 1: Like a room, Yeah, like a room had opened up
Speaker 1: at an engineer's house in La No. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I lived my first house that I lived here in
Speaker 1: La It was like there was like twelve people there
Speaker 1: and it was like all guys. I'd wake up, people
Speaker 1: would be shooting a music video in the middle of
Speaker 1: the kitchen, like right away. I wouldn't call it a
Speaker 1: content house.
Speaker 3: House. What it wasn't a trap house?
Speaker 1: Was it is there something can be tweet? It was
Speaker 1: definitely Mexican.
Speaker 3: I think in between.
Speaker 1: It was it was a refugee home for people with dreams. No,
Speaker 1: but I that was that was a hard time in
Speaker 1: my life, but it was fun at the same time
Speaker 1: because I had just moved here and it was honestly
Speaker 1: the best decision I could have ever made for myself
Speaker 1: is to quit what I thought I would be doing
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life and really just like
Speaker 1: fully go in on the one thing I've always been
Speaker 1: passionate about, which has been singing, like ever since I
Speaker 1: was a child. And but the crazy thing is is
Speaker 1: that I would never and this is where I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I can do this, ship, anybody can do this.
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up taking vocal classes, piano classes, arts,
Speaker 1: anything like that. I watched all that like I would
Speaker 1: be in my room. I would like I would visual
Speaker 1: myself and maybe that's the manifestation part of it, is
Speaker 1: like I never let that dream die. So when I
Speaker 1: graduated from college, I moved back home to the Bay
Speaker 1: and I started going with Charlie to this, to the
Speaker 1: studio sessions or his studio sessions, and then I made
Speaker 1: my first song with him, and I remember like, ooh,
Speaker 1: this is where I want to be. So that was
Speaker 1: kind of what started it all. But I just knew
Speaker 1: that if I just really applied myself fully and gave
Speaker 1: it one hundred and twenty percent, I knew it could
Speaker 1: do something. And I can't even but back then, I
Speaker 1: would have never thought I would do Coachella, Like right,
Speaker 1: you know, you never dream about those things, but you.
Speaker 3: Well, they seem so far away. They seemed so far away, Sally,
Speaker 3: especially being you know, being a young person.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like a minority in this There's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people who look like me. Nor did
Speaker 1: I grow up see people who looked like me make
Speaker 1: R and B pop music.
Speaker 3: Child of immigrants like you, just everything seemed so far away. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Is it true that you you were going to tell
Speaker 3: your mom that you know, you were building up the
Speaker 3: courage to tell you mom, you're gonna do music instead
Speaker 3: of health care. And the first thing she said was
Speaker 3: you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she thought I was pregnant. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this feels like this doesn't feel as bad anymore that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna move to La.
Speaker 3: But she made it easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but my dad was definitely worried, like he, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Like he came and visited me in La.
Speaker 1: We're having dinner. He's quiet. I'm like, I know a
Speaker 1: lecture is about to come on.
Speaker 3: You know that that immigrant silence, silence that it's just
Speaker 3: a slow build up tools good talking to. It's gonna
Speaker 3: take an hour and he's not gonna stop. No, there's
Speaker 3: there's no comma, there's no period it's just straight.
Speaker 1: And I was I was doing my thing, like you know,
Speaker 1: we'd get pretty good streams and all that, and like
Speaker 1: I was financially stable enough where music was kind of
Speaker 1: you know, paying some of the rent. But like my
Speaker 1: parents did not care. It wasn't until I got on
Speaker 1: the Bay Area like hometown news this, like they were like,
Speaker 1: she's famous. They started to be different. They believed you exactly.
Speaker 1: So that was like something that was tangible for them.
Speaker 1: And I think that that was when shit shit changed.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My parents really started treating me like
Speaker 1: the golden child.
Speaker 4: And I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: My parents are funny. We're always like who's your favorite,
Speaker 1: and they're always like everybody's my favorite.
Speaker 3: But I know I'm there, you know, yeah exactly, but
Speaker 3: I never used to be. I know I am now
Speaker 3: now we have to work for it.
Speaker 1: Like my sister and my brother, my older oldest brother,
Speaker 1: they just had a kid, like I know, they did
Speaker 1: that so that like they can get in front of me.
Speaker 3: But like you're like, we brought the grandchildren.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no, but I'm like no, but I'm a singer.
Speaker 3: I'm an entertainer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that puts me at the front of the line
Speaker 1: exactly with your parents.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, my parents, I think I'm the favorite because
Speaker 3: I'm on the radio and I like went for my
Speaker 3: I followed my dream and I followed through.
Speaker 1: It's just because you're on the radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't the favorite, right, I was forgotten about it.
Speaker 3: I had to work my way up. My brother, who
Speaker 3: was shot, was the favorite because he got shot. He's
Speaker 3: alive to tell the story, but he was always the
Speaker 3: favorite because he got shot. He got de he got
Speaker 3: and it worked a bit. And that's where I'm taking.
Speaker 1: My parents on that Disney cruise because crazy, like I'm
Speaker 1: over here, like, don't don't give a fuck what your
Speaker 1: parents say, and follow your dreams.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, we all I
Speaker 5: give a fuck about is what my parents think, right,
Speaker 5: I don't care how they get it's crazy.
Speaker 3: We just want to make them proud. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we want to make
Speaker 3: them proud. We want them to look at us like
Speaker 3: they didn't waste their.
Speaker 1: Time and they didn't immigrate here for no reason.
Speaker 3: We don't want them to regret whatever it took to
Speaker 3: get here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for them, they're just like, what can I
Speaker 1: brag about?
Speaker 3: You know? How can I brag about you? Something about
Speaker 3: that's a fact for real? So the title track wings
Speaker 3: you You you finished the album with it right you
Speaker 3: close out the album? Is that a song that you've
Speaker 3: always wanted to write?
Speaker 1: I think I'm a very vulnerable girly Like, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: gotten a couple of fights in my life. I definitely
Speaker 1: am tough, but I don't find anymore. But but I
Speaker 1: will hold hold it down. Where's my mind?
Speaker 3: At no?
Speaker 1: No, no, So I I am a very vulnerable person.
Speaker 1: Like I can make bops, but I love making that
Speaker 1: introspective type music that tells a story about like I
Speaker 1: kind of just peeling back the layers a little bit.
Speaker 1: I still feel like people don't fully know who tweet is,
Speaker 1: but it's something that I'm It's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a slow play for me. Like I I am a
Speaker 1: scorpio and I feel like scorpios are very mysterious in nature,
Speaker 1: and like I can make friends, I can be friends
Speaker 1: with everybody, but like I don't let a lot of
Speaker 1: people into who I really am. Maybe it's a maybe
Speaker 1: it's a trauma thing. Who knows. Maybe it's not even
Speaker 1: a zodiac.
Speaker 3: Thing whatever, but I think that's wrong with us. It's
Speaker 3: because of trauma, trust me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it is, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I think like slowly with every project, I like to
Speaker 1: like peel back the layers a little bit and kind
Speaker 1: of just let people know. Like I'm over here talking
Speaker 1: about like sex and love and all these things, right,
Speaker 1: but like I'm still I'm still a cry baby at heart,
Speaker 1: Like I still feel a lot, a lot too much.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't want to trauma dump on here, but.
Speaker 3: You know it, Yeah, yeah, I think it was captured
Speaker 3: in wings, right. I think that vulnerability.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: That that maybe that little girl that's still.
Speaker 1: In there, there's always that inner child, you know, that
Speaker 1: like that wants to just kind of have the life
Speaker 1: that that.
Speaker 3: Wants to win. Yeah, yeah, it wants to be taken.
Speaker 1: I used to hide a lot, you know, as a
Speaker 1: as a little girl, I was so shy. I hated
Speaker 1: singing in front of people. I would always just sing
Speaker 1: in my room. And that's why it's crazy that I'm
Speaker 1: here today and like I'm so much more confident than
Speaker 1: I was when I was eight years old. You know.
Speaker 1: Of course but I think I always do it for
Speaker 1: her because I wish I had the confidence I had
Speaker 1: now as a little girl. But that also comes from
Speaker 1: like the environment you grow up in.
Speaker 3: Is this why? And I've seen you know this has
Speaker 3: been done many times, you know, throughout music history, But
Speaker 3: is that why you make it a point to bring
Speaker 3: people on stage and sing with you. Absolutely, to me,
Speaker 3: it feels as if you don't. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's survivor's guilt, I don't know what it is. But
Speaker 3: you want to share that moment. You don't want to
Speaker 3: be greedy, you don't want you want, you want to,
Speaker 3: but I'm a sharer. Yeah, you want to share that
Speaker 3: moment and when you look into that audience, no one
Speaker 3: else matters at that moment, yeah than the people watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I had that moment in Vancouver with a
Speaker 1: little girl named Jocelyn, and it was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: like near the end of my set, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I just kept seeing this little girl in the state
Speaker 1: or in the crowd singing. And then I look into
Speaker 1: my manager. I was like, do I have some times?
Speaker 1: She's like no, but fuck it whatever, So I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: Like I just had this impulsive idea and I go
Speaker 1: down there and I'm telling the band like, let's strip
Speaker 1: this down and not even knowing if she would really
Speaker 1: know the lyrics, I just saw this little girl and
Speaker 1: I was just like no, it was like something calling,
Speaker 1: we have to do something. Yeah, So then I start
Speaker 1: singing and then I hand the mic to her and
Speaker 1: she knows the lyrics word for word. But on top
Speaker 1: of that, she's perfect pitch, sounds like an angel. It
Speaker 1: was just and the video ended up being like my
Speaker 1: most viral video, and it really took girls like me
Speaker 1: don't cry like to the next level. But I think
Speaker 1: I don't look for those viral moments. But I definitely
Speaker 1: every time I do something, I want to leave it
Speaker 1: feeling fulfilled, Like I don't want to just do a
Speaker 1: show from start to finish and not have any type
Speaker 1: of connection with the fans. Like I need to leave
Speaker 1: feeling like I gave you, guys, a but you also
Speaker 1: gave me a lot to leave with and feel just
Speaker 1: you know, when you have empty conversations with people, sure,
Speaker 1: and then you feel you leave that feeling tired, You're drained.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there was nothing, There was nothing a coya.
Speaker 1: So That's why it's like with shows, I always want
Speaker 1: to like do the show and actually leave feeling like damn,
Speaker 1: that really just recharged me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like going to someone's house and you bring
Speaker 3: a bottle of wine or some fruit or some cookies.
Speaker 3: You don't exactly you don't want them to leave empty hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want the entire experience for everybody to be
Speaker 1: so good. And I think that's also maybe again I
Speaker 1: fear that like my I don't know, I just have
Speaker 1: this imposter synstrome sometimes where I'm like, if it all ends,
Speaker 1: like I want to at least them to know, like
Speaker 1: them to have had a good show, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you never know where you're tired, Like I just
Speaker 1: I just want to live everything to the fullest.
Speaker 3: So how long have you and Jackie known each other?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: Nine?
Speaker 3: Ten years now?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Five five?
Speaker 1: Five years? About to be five years? Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: she's probably my most Like she's like one of those
Speaker 1: friends that I don't talk to her all the time
Speaker 1: and we just pick up where we left as the
Speaker 1: easiest friendships. And where I'm at right now is like
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: That's how I am with everyone.
Speaker 1: I easy, you know, Yeah, because like we're good.
Speaker 3: We don't as good. Yeah, it is good. And when
Speaker 3: I see you, I see you and it's love. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the best kind of friendships.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He's always been just a very like loving and open person.
Speaker 4: And I think you were one of the like first
Speaker 4: people to accept me, like other than cook, other than
Speaker 4: other than cook, like accept me into the friend groups
Speaker 4: with very open arms.
Speaker 5: I'm always I'm always going to be And she's always
Speaker 5: waving the sweet flag, like we've got to get her
Speaker 5: in here.
Speaker 3: She's doing it. Like, no, I've seen people like have
Speaker 3: such a hard time with your name. It's insane. I'm like,
Speaker 3: her name is not tree, it's not thigh, it's not Dowey.
Speaker 1: What else do I get?
Speaker 3: Martinez Sey, Oh my.
Speaker 1: Cheweet Gomez was like, and I remember when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I would be like, oh my god, our
Speaker 1: names are so similar, like he has a sea, reminds
Speaker 1: us a tee. But then that probably added to the
Speaker 1: chewy chewee chewy like people probably didn't know how to
Speaker 1: pronounce my name even more, you know, not because of you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if you're listening, I don't think you are,
Speaker 1: but if you are, I'm not blaming you. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying my name is very hard end Okay, But if
Speaker 1: you're really Vietnamese, it's tweet tweet tweet.
Speaker 3: You're away from being Mexican.
Speaker 1: Sweet chewey. What does your grandpa called me? She tweety
Speaker 1: bird tweety That explains the tweety Birdji.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. There it is on the Gram.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: H The only feature is Blast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want another feature on Date. I think
Speaker 1: I want a girl wrapper on it of some sorts.
Speaker 1: I had somebody in mind. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but I've been manifesting it and a.
Speaker 3: Newer artists are an established artists.
Speaker 1: An established artists. Yeah, but I definitely I was not
Speaker 1: shy like sliding in the dms. That's how I got
Speaker 1: the Blast feature. We actually met when we were doing
Speaker 1: Coachella together. Our trailers were right next to each other,
Speaker 1: and so we got introduced. And he's super cool, and
Speaker 1: I remember I made the songs in the studio. I
Speaker 1: was like, the only person that would sound good on
Speaker 1: this is Blast. That's all I want. That that is
Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, Yeah, And then I got out of
Speaker 1: the studio and I was like, but I'm afraid to
Speaker 1: ask you know what he says no. Then I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you just have to slide in the dms and just
Speaker 1: do it if he says if he says no, or
Speaker 1: he just doesn't respond, it is what it is. But
Speaker 1: then he heard it, he was like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is hard or whatever, and then he killed it like
Speaker 1: he sounds so good on it, and I just loved. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a good match. It's a really good match, and
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just happy it happened the way that
Speaker 1: I you know, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: The artwork. You're sitting on a mattress and there's there's
Speaker 3: like down pillow feathers everywhere. Yeah, yeah, so what's that about.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So what happened was is that we
Speaker 1: rented out this trap house set. Again.
Speaker 4: It also goes by going back to the.
Speaker 1: And the director Edgar. He was like, Hey, there's this
Speaker 1: really cool mattress. I was like, okay, okay, this mattressy dead.
Speaker 1: So the mattress had like blood on it everything. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, well maybe, but I was like
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we got to photoshop that out.
Speaker 1: But also I'm not sitting on that bed, so that's
Speaker 1: why I'm off the bed. But everyone always says, like, hey,
Speaker 1: is the bed thing like a thing? Because I have
Speaker 1: it in a lot of my like art cover arts.
Speaker 1: It just finds its way. Maybe it wants a story.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like there's really no story behind
Speaker 1: that aside from the fact that it looked cool. So
Speaker 1: that's that's what it was. That's what it was. But
Speaker 1: if you want a creative answer, I think that it
Speaker 1: really added to like the inner child in me of
Speaker 1: being at home when I was a kid and singing
Speaker 1: in my bedroom top. All right, that makes sense too,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's it's it's it's a sign of like
Speaker 3: maybe at one point you're gonna have to start a
Speaker 3: mattress company or something.
Speaker 1: Or it's a sign that I need a new one
Speaker 1: because mine is dinting and mine has a dive it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I need a new bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad for your back. Yeah, I never realized how
Speaker 3: important sleep was.
Speaker 5: Sleep is, so you're in sleep in general, good mattress
Speaker 5: is extremely important, especially as you get older.
Speaker 3: Fucking expensive, though, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I know, you know, when I first when I first
Speaker 1: moved out here. When I got my first bed, it
Speaker 1: was like twelve hundred dollars and I did like a
Speaker 1: payment plan on it la a wave plan, not even away,
Speaker 1: just like a payment plan on a mattress that's paid
Speaker 1: off now. But but now I need like I need
Speaker 1: a new bed now, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, plenty of mattresses out here in LA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, send me some lex rex links Rex that's what
Speaker 1: I met, Link's rex.
Speaker 3: Whatever right right, yo, Cloud eleven clud eleven. So that
Speaker 3: that's was that an easy process it was to write
Speaker 3: that song.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the first time I worked with the producers.
Speaker 1: I usually have really good luck first sessions. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's either everybody brings their A game.
Speaker 1: I bring my A game. But it is so you
Speaker 1: guys don't understand when you guys are working or when
Speaker 1: any an artist is working with new producers or people
Speaker 1: that you don't work with all the time for the
Speaker 1: first time. It is the scariest thing ever, because then
Speaker 1: you know they you're put into these rooms because they
Speaker 1: either like your work you like their work, but you
Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna be synergy wise when you're
Speaker 1: creating something from scratch and then also I place a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on myself, like I want to overperform
Speaker 1: because I want them to leave, Like damn, that was
Speaker 1: tweets so sick, like she rightes so good. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And again that comes from the immigrant mindset of like
Speaker 1: trying to be the best.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta be the best. You gotta do
Speaker 3: a good job.
Speaker 1: You want them to remember you, you want them to
Speaker 1: come back exactly, so I just remember. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but like first sessions, I feel like I'm on my
Speaker 1: I'm on my A game, so go. I'm very good
Speaker 1: with like melody riffs, like I'll go in there blackout
Speaker 1: and just do like these crazy melodies. And it's people
Speaker 1: always like, well that's it. You know. I just have
Speaker 1: a knack for finding really good, sticky melodies and it
Speaker 1: just comes just it's an intuitional intuitional into I don't know,
Speaker 1: intuition thing whatever, intuitive thing.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, it's an intuitive thing, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: But it was so fun. That was the first song
Speaker 1: on the project that really made the project, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to save it for when the project actually released,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have anything to like release you know,
Speaker 1: leading up to it, and I was like, it has
Speaker 1: to be Cloud eleven. And also we we played it
Speaker 1: at Coachella for the first time, but it wasn't out yet.
Speaker 1: It was just like, here's a little tea, what's to come?
Speaker 1: And it was so much fun. I just remember the
Speaker 1: reaction of the crowd. We were throwing like the beach balls,
Speaker 1: there were bubbles and everybody was having a good time.
Speaker 1: And that's when I knew. I was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is a good one.
Speaker 4: This is my.
Speaker 3: Commercial bop, you know, and the people help you or
Speaker 3: the people helped you understand that, right because of that
Speaker 3: feeling that you got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes the answers are in the live crowd, man,
Speaker 1: for real, the answers are in.
Speaker 3: The strip club either one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: You know there's certain songs that are like played in
Speaker 3: like there's certain like hip hop songs that are played
Speaker 3: in the strip club. And if it pops in the
Speaker 3: strip club, it's was role play a song that you
Speaker 3: walked in with already.
Speaker 1: No, I made it from scratch.
Speaker 3: You made it from scratch.
Speaker 1: That was fun for me. Roleplay was really fun because
Speaker 1: roplay is one of my favorites. I love roleplay. It
Speaker 1: is one of those that, like for some people, it
Speaker 1: might not hit you right away. Cook, it takes. It
Speaker 1: takes a lot of songs. Yeah he doesn't know good music.
Speaker 1: It's fine, but that song is so fun. I played
Speaker 1: with my voice a lot and it's just like with it,
Speaker 1: I was having fun. And you know, public speaking for
Speaker 1: me is really hard, not as of late, but like
Speaker 1: it used to be. And using your voice in that
Speaker 1: way on a track was probably the most difficult thing
Speaker 1: I had to do on the project. Sure, sure, like talking,
Speaker 1: I had to do that over and over. And then
Speaker 1: there's guys out there, right, like I always work with guys,
Speaker 1: of course, like I need some girls in the energies,
Speaker 1: but like you know, the guys are outside the booth.
Speaker 1: I'm in there trying to like sound all sexy and
Speaker 1: it's so nerve wracking talking and having that voice. But
Speaker 1: I'm so happy the song came out and just like
Speaker 1: I want to be able to show people different sides
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 3: Who was hair down about.
Speaker 1: Myself actually really yeah.
Speaker 5: It was the.
Speaker 1: First song we released on the project, and I wanted
Speaker 1: that to be the first release because I was already
Speaker 1: really stressed out, and the song I was basically writing about,
Speaker 1: like let your hair down, let loose, like stop caring
Speaker 1: about whatever it is. But you know it could be
Speaker 1: for a guy to really like I feel like my lyrics,
Speaker 1: you can you can apply it to whatever situation. But
Speaker 1: it was really a song I wrote for myself to
Speaker 1: just like, let your hair down.
Speaker 3: Life is not that serious yeo moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can let your hair out even if
Speaker 1: you don't have hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hey, what do I do?
Speaker 1: Lay your hand down? It's a figure.
Speaker 3: It's down. I do want to coming back, No, probably
Speaker 3: not the strip club topic. Pretty more boy, and I
Speaker 3: want to and I do want to introduce DJ Cook
Speaker 3: beats out who used to work here everyone.
Speaker 1: Two three. If you could pick one song out of
Speaker 1: Tweetze catalog.
Speaker 3: To be played at a strip club, what do you
Speaker 3: think would be the most fitting song for a strip club.
Speaker 3: For a strip club, I think it might be all
Speaker 3: night long. You got to that slow jam, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, coming up on stage.
Speaker 1: And actually I've actually had videos of girls pull dancing
Speaker 1: that song already.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, So if it's a hit the
Speaker 3: strip club, it's a hit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start testing all my music and the CE market. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get some wisp. I'm here for the music. I'm here for.
Speaker 2: Record.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, heady, you don't need to give
Speaker 1: me a dance, but slip that in there and.
Speaker 3: For one dance on this one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Dan.
Speaker 3: Yo Is, does touring kick your ass? Is that tough?
Speaker 1: Dude? It's so hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard, it is.
Speaker 1: I'm like starting my stamina back up because I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna get crazy. But it's fun.
Speaker 3: Like, no, it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. But I again, he well, like
Speaker 1: I I'm the type of artists when I do a
Speaker 1: meet and greet you have to you have to pull
Speaker 1: me away from the fans because it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to They're spending all this money to come meet me.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get hi right Like, that's not who
Speaker 1: I am. And maybe I can meet myself in the
Speaker 1: middle a little bit, but I give a lot. And
Speaker 1: then then you have to do the show. Right then
Speaker 1: you have to commute whatever it is, and the travel
Speaker 1: alone will kick your ass out.
Speaker 3: Of a suitcase. No you are, yeah, you are eating.
Speaker 3: You gotta do it it was available.
Speaker 1: Literally, it's so bad. Like when I was on tole Lma,
Speaker 1: I gained like twenty pounds. I came home and I
Speaker 1: had like all this acne and I was just like
Speaker 1: it was fun, like but I, you know, stressed out,
Speaker 1: so stressed out. We started the first week of tour
Speaker 1: and she had forty shows, right, I was on the
Speaker 1: whole entire tour. It was. It was a long tour.
Speaker 1: I we were like, okay, we're working out for you know,
Speaker 1: every time every day that we're here. First week, we're
Speaker 1: really good. After that it was Jack at the Box
Speaker 1: and beer.
Speaker 3: That was it. Like that was it Jack and a beer.
Speaker 3: Let's get it.
Speaker 1: It was really bad.
Speaker 3: So I love Box though, Dragon Box so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but every day, I know, I know, I know
Speaker 1: every day it was. It was a lot, but again
Speaker 1: it's you know, not a lot of people get to
Speaker 1: experience that. So I try to be grateful and trying
Speaker 1: to make my situation as comfortable as possible.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we we've done a lot of tours. We
Speaker 1: have thugged a lot of tours, yeah, yeah, or thugged
Speaker 1: it for a.
Speaker 3: Lot of Yeah, for sure. God, independent artists, man, that's
Speaker 3: got to be studied.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, man, do I just get signed? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: Nah, right at this point, is that even something you want?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it more than I.
Speaker 3: Use a lot of partnership instead of getting Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I think because.
Speaker 3: You're walking in with a lot of music, totally a
Speaker 3: lot of accomplishment.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've self funded everything myself. So that's the
Speaker 1: part where I'm kind of like, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money for somebody, but I'm grateful.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I get to use my own money
Speaker 1: to pay for those things, because if it works, you
Speaker 1: get that tenfold back. Right. But sometimes it would be
Speaker 1: nice to have like a bigger team to like help
Speaker 1: with things, because you know, but we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: where that.
Speaker 3: We're praying for you. Yeah, let's get it. Wings is
Speaker 3: out on all these platforms, man, let's get it. Sweet,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, thank you so much. Let's get it.
Speaker 3: I hope so show real ninety two three, Let's get it. Yeah,