Speaker 1: Hi, Billy Cunningham is great American Court Media Research Center
Speaker 1: and uniqustion shot orders at the headquarters with Curtis House.
Speaker 1: And what they do is chronicle every day, every week,
Speaker 1: every month, every five minutes what's happening in the mainstream media, because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, garbage in, garbage out.
Speaker 2: About forty percent.
Speaker 1: Of Americans receive almost all their news from ABC, CBS
Speaker 1: and NBC plus PBS. And if you get the bad
Speaker 1: information in, you get bad results out. And the goal
Speaker 1: of the media should be to inform the elector at
Speaker 1: about important issues so they can cast an informed ballot
Speaker 1: when it comes time to vote. That's not exactly what's
Speaker 1: going on in Curtis House with NewsBusters dot Org, the
Speaker 1: executive director, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before
Speaker 1: we talk about DOGE coverage, and you have some great
Speaker 1: stats here. From February the eighth until February the twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: what a sixteen day period that ABC, CBS, NBC spent
Speaker 1: a total of one minute and fifty three seconds covering
Speaker 1: the taxpayer savings by dose. In other words, they didn't
Speaker 1: cover it at all. On the other hand, we have
Speaker 1: the PBS thing coming up but before we go there,
Speaker 1: I have listed after list of mainstream media types that
Speaker 1: have lost their job and lost their way, whether it's
Speaker 1: a Leicester Holt or a Laura O'Donnell, or a Chuck
Speaker 1: Todd or a Joy Read and others on MSNBC plus,
Speaker 1: the view is going to be rained in when they're
Speaker 1: cast adrift by ABC News. Just from your perspective, what
Speaker 1: has happened to the collapse of mainstream media and as
Speaker 1: a consequence, is that good or bad for the American people? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's interesting to see all of these people
Speaker 3: suddenly just lose their voices and think that you know,
Speaker 3: they're going to go to substack or wherever else. And
Speaker 3: I know in some of these cases a lot of
Speaker 3: it's cost cutting in the case of Leicester Holt more
Speaker 3: or less retiring, or Donald stepping away ho to coffee,
Speaker 3: leaving this Today's Show right before the inauguration. In all
Speaker 3: of those cases, the reporting, particularly with Pucks still in
Speaker 3: Buyers or Liberal journalis donetheless, but his newsletters are pretty
Speaker 3: thorough and substantivity is great sourcing say that, Hey, guess
Speaker 3: what twenty million dollars a year for some of these
Speaker 3: network news anchors Yeah, that's just completely unreasonable, Like it's
Speaker 3: not reasonable, it's not feasible, it's it's just it's not
Speaker 3: sustainable for the bottom line based on the product that
Speaker 3: they are putting out in the bias and how people
Speaker 3: have tuned them out. So these folks instead of just saying, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to retire openly, they're suggesting that they're writing
Speaker 3: off to the sunset, I need to spend more time
Speaker 3: with my kids whatever else. In the case that people
Speaker 3: like Joy read, I mean, she is the most toxic,
Speaker 3: venomous person in maybe cable news history. I mean, she
Speaker 3: has been incredibly horribly divisive. She was a DEI hired
Speaker 3: to begin with because Chris Matthews was meted by this
Speaker 3: woman named Lauren Bassett, and she was given a show,
Speaker 3: I believe in twenty twenty one, and you know, she
Speaker 3: didn't really earn this, and so as such, her ratings
Speaker 3: have not been great. She struggled to maintain an audience,
Speaker 3: and now she's blaming racism or her supporters are blaming
Speaker 3: racism for her losing her job, even though she's being
Speaker 3: replaced by a panel show by two people who are
Speaker 3: black and the other is Hispanic. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: funny there. So I think in this media landscape build
Speaker 3: the real reality is it is it's cough cutting, And
Speaker 3: I think it's the recognition of some of these network
Speaker 3: executives that do we want this person or that person
Speaker 3: to be the face of our brand because remember, MSNBC
Speaker 3: is spinning off or being spun off by Comcast, so
Speaker 3: it's going to have to stand on its own, you know,
Speaker 3: two legs with the NBC and a few other cable
Speaker 3: networks and trying to sell itself to advertisers. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure what your read's been putting up is not what
Speaker 3: most Americans want.
Speaker 1: So in five or ten years, if you and I
Speaker 1: would get together, talk radio will be here, podcast will
Speaker 1: be here, websites will be here. Newspapers, the idea of
Speaker 1: cutting down a tree somewhere in Minnesota, putting into on rivers,
Speaker 1: giving it to a mill, then creating the pulp, and
Speaker 1: then giving it to a processor, and then put making
Speaker 1: paper and then putting ink on it.
Speaker 2: That whole thing is gone. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I think the Wall Street Journal in New York Times
Speaker 1: not the only two papers in the country. Washington Post
Speaker 1: loses one hundred million dollars a year. So from media
Speaker 1: sources you have, the newspapers are gone, Television, big time
Speaker 1: news is collapsing. People don't believe it. Did they cause
Speaker 1: their own demise? Do you think the left wing media
Speaker 1: and did they do it to that? Was this suicide
Speaker 1: or homicide? I say suicide.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's definitely suicide. I mean it is a
Speaker 3: complete refusal to accept outside criticism. You know, in my career,
Speaker 3: I've had a number of journalists block me. I've never
Speaker 3: called them any names. I've merely written stories with the
Speaker 3: full transcript of their news reports and said, here's what's
Speaker 3: wrong with this segment. Here's where they don't do not
Speaker 3: present an opposing viewpoint, or they leave out certain facts,
Speaker 3: and you get blocked for it. You know, you talk
Speaker 3: about politicians having thin skin and being insecure, journalists are
Speaker 3: by far National journalists are by far the most thin
Speaker 3: skin profession in America. It's not on planet Earth. They
Speaker 3: are so avert to outside criticism. We saw this during
Speaker 3: the first Trump administration. Chants of fake news were treated
Speaker 3: like death threats, and which is just ridiculous and a
Speaker 3: refusal from the liberal media to accept that The First
Speaker 3: Amendment also applies to us. It's not just about you guys.
Speaker 3: So this has been entirely self inflicted. And I think
Speaker 3: too we may have talked about this in the past.
Speaker 3: That is, the liberal media have shown a lack of respect.
Speaker 3: It's not just about not showing or carrying the other viewpoints,
Speaker 3: it's when they do, they don't show respect. They do
Speaker 3: not treat viewpoints with dignity. And I think American people
Speaker 3: see that as such. And when you see that, I'm
Speaker 3: not being listened to, I'm not being respected. I'm being
Speaker 3: dismissed as rubes, racists, sexist, homophobes, and all those things.
Speaker 3: Who would want to listen to this every day unless
Speaker 3: you're like some sort of weird Navakis.
Speaker 2: I don't. The fact is, I've been talking about this
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 1: The mainstream media, NewsBusters dot Org, Mini Research Center, a
Speaker 1: bunch of others actually do the work to have the
Speaker 1: facts that over a sixteen day period there was little
Speaker 1: or no reporting on those taxpayer savings. I've said for
Speaker 1: years that two things that destroy this country is unbridled
Speaker 1: southern border invasions, bringing with the disease, third world poverty
Speaker 1: grinding into America of the Milton Friedman In one of
Speaker 1: my four heads on the Mount Rushmore Conservatism, Milton Friedman
Speaker 1: said that you can't have an existing first world country
Speaker 1: with a border wide open with millions of unwashed masses
Speaker 1: coming in that whose labor is not needed and their
Speaker 1: cost of survival are going to be very high. And secondly,
Speaker 1: the second aspect the taxpayer savings, is the federal deficit
Speaker 1: of that accumulated debt thirty six trillion dollars is unbridled.
Speaker 1: And so because it's an important issue, you have a
Speaker 1: column up censored. ABC, CBS, and NBC spent less than
Speaker 1: two minutes on dose taxpayer savings.
Speaker 2: And this wasn't just over a week.
Speaker 1: Sixteen days of coverage from February the eighth through February
Speaker 1: to twenty fourth, they spent a total of one minute
Speaker 1: and fifty three seconds on it. To break it down,
Speaker 1: ABC News spent the least amount of time, which is zero.
Speaker 1: NBC spent twenty six seconds on taxpayer savings, CBS spent
Speaker 1: a minute in twenty seven which is really unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: the key of what's happening is we can't have a
Speaker 1: two trillion dollar annual deficit and a thirty six trillion
Speaker 1: dollar accumulated debt and survive as a country. But they
Speaker 1: don't give the information to the American people as to
Speaker 1: why these taxpayer saidments are required. Please relate the findings
Speaker 1: of your study. Yeah, well, first.
Speaker 3: Of all, yeah, the top one two. In the addition
Speaker 3: one minute fifty three seconds that it really only actually
Speaker 3: applies to CBS and NBC because ABC was completely asleep
Speaker 3: at the wheel. This is one of those things, Bill,
Speaker 3: where the liberal media will try to deny, deny, deny,
Speaker 3: and they may eventually be forced into admitting it's true.
Speaker 3: You know, you see this as well with the border.
Speaker 3: You not, You're not really seeing a ton about the
Speaker 3: border now compared to what we did before. Maybe there's
Speaker 3: a reason for that, of course, maybe it's because things
Speaker 3: are going well, and you know, they'll eventually be forced
Speaker 3: to admit it. If ever, and I think some of
Speaker 3: this might happen with DOSE. They're trying to shame people
Speaker 3: into this concept that oh, they're moving too fast and
Speaker 3: they're going to make mistakes. And maybe all this could
Speaker 3: be true, but the liberal media don't want that. They
Speaker 3: disagree with the notion at all of doing anything completely
Speaker 3: with doing anything to cut the size of government. You
Speaker 3: notice how in these segments about federal workers they find
Speaker 3: just the right person who was laid off, who seems
Speaker 3: like they did something that even a small government conservative
Speaker 3: would say is something the government should be involved with.
Speaker 3: The networks have done stories about the National Park Service
Speaker 3: and the National Forest Service recently, and on Tuesday Night,
Speaker 3: the CBS Evening News joined the others who have done
Speaker 3: segments in the past that those is going to ruin
Speaker 3: your summer vacations to the national parks and heck, guess
Speaker 3: what bears may now eat you might eat you now
Speaker 3: because there's not park strangers to be able to save you. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's so deperate.
Speaker 1: The headline is CBS doose is going to get you
Speaker 1: eaten by bears? The story? And then right, oh, that
Speaker 1: is a story about PBS. I find it amazing that
Speaker 1: PBS public broadcasting TV and radio, and many markets like
Speaker 1: New York City has eight or nine PBS radio stations
Speaker 1: in one city they employed literally one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 1: It costs five hundred million dollars a year minimum, and
Speaker 1: it's generally bad radio or bad TV that we paid for.
Speaker 1: And why why hasn't that come up more forcefully. I
Speaker 1: know you have a campaign in Washington now with the truck,
Speaker 1: but explain what's going to happen to PBS in the future.
Speaker 2: By that, I mean the next six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm so glad you started with that
Speaker 3: premise all about about the affiliates. And what's funny is
Speaker 3: like in Boston there's two affiliates and they're indistinguishable. The
Speaker 3: programming is the same, you know, like the call letters
Speaker 3: are different. I'm sure the signals are relatively similar. They're
Speaker 3: both based in Boston. Like how is that? How does
Speaker 3: that accomplish anything? Like what level? Why is that level
Speaker 3: of done? And see necessary? And so that's just one
Speaker 3: of the TACs that we're taking. One of the five
Speaker 3: reasons of my colleague Tim Graha, who's been covering this
Speaker 3: since twelve before I was born. He started covering this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff in the late eighties, has said, is
Speaker 3: why PBS NPR need to be defunded. Folks can follow
Speaker 3: our brand new X account defund PBSNPR all one word
Speaker 3: on X. It's a clearinghouse. Yes, on NewsBusters. In the MRC,
Speaker 3: we have our we still share all of our blogs
Speaker 3: and Facebook pages as well our PBS NPR content. But
Speaker 3: you can go there for a one stop shop of
Speaker 3: all of our PBS and PR content, and we really
Speaker 3: encourage folks to check that out and then focus on
Speaker 3: the DC local Reddit, the little message board chat room website.
Speaker 3: The local DC section is already freaking out about this truck.
Speaker 3: They're just losing their absolute minds and into this we
Speaker 3: all say, you are welcome to give as much money
Speaker 3: as you would like to PBS. We are merely dang
Speaker 3: not us. We should still have a saying whether our
Speaker 3: money goes there.
Speaker 1: I think talk radio would love to get five hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars a year in government subsidies. But if you
Speaker 1: want to give until your heart's content have added and
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, and I just I assume in the
Speaker 1: next year that's going to be defunded. I've heard this
Speaker 1: for the last thirty years. It's never happened under Bush,
Speaker 1: under Bush, under of course, under Reagan, or under the
Speaker 1: first term of Donald Trump, or no Democrat, because that
Speaker 1: was left as propaganda paid for by the government and
Speaker 1: they only give one story. There's no more left wing
Speaker 1: organization in America, more left wing than PBS.
Speaker 2: I mean it's awful.
Speaker 1: Now, lastly, before I let you go, you have a
Speaker 1: great column up about Dan Bongino, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: is a great American. I've had them on several times,
Speaker 1: and the headline is ABC, CBS, NBC lose their minds
Speaker 1: over Trump picking Dan Bongino for FBI post. And you
Speaker 1: have exactly what CBS News anchors are now saying. The
Speaker 1: two new anchors are talking about this Maurice Jaba and
Speaker 1: also what's his name? And they go after Dickers and
Speaker 1: John Dickerson. They go after him hard because Dan Bongino
Speaker 1: is unqualified. And you have an army followers of millions
Speaker 1: of talk radio and podcast listeners who devote time to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and to Dan Bongino, who think this is
Speaker 1: a great pick. So the media once again garbage in,
Speaker 1: garbage out. You hear this about someone you may not
Speaker 1: know a lot about. But why does this again show
Speaker 1: left wing media bias.
Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous, Like, first of all, they're treating his
Speaker 3: service in the time in the Secret Service, and is
Speaker 3: a New York City police officer like I don't know,
Speaker 3: he was like bagging groceries and then became deputy FBI director,
Speaker 3: right like like, you know, it's it's really ridiculous. They
Speaker 3: mentioned these things, but then they're like, well, he doesn't
Speaker 3: have any experience in the agency. And you know, the
Speaker 3: FBI Agents Association had demanded the caspital and President Trump
Speaker 3: pick a career agent, and they didn't pick a career agent. Well, yes,
Speaker 3: career agents. The permanent bureaucracy is part of the problem.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he did this, you know. CBS Evening
Speaker 3: News went as far as to suggests that the moves
Speaker 3: made by Cash Btal and Dan Bongino could put the
Speaker 3: country's national security at risk because they're responsible for stopping
Speaker 3: terror attacks and this idea that they're emptying out or
Speaker 3: whittling down the number of people who work in Washington,
Speaker 3: DC at headquarters and sending them to field offices is
Speaker 3: upsetting morale and it's gonna somehow like hurt like crime fighting,
Speaker 3: Like are you kidding me? Oh, it upsets morale and
Speaker 3: it hurts people's feelings that they're gonna have to go
Speaker 3: somewhere out into real America and they're gonna have to
Speaker 3: actually work. They probably will still make the same money.
Speaker 3: Hey guess look, guys, actually your dollars will go farther
Speaker 3: by not being in the Washington, DC area. So this
Speaker 3: should be viewed as a positive. But of course it's
Speaker 3: not Bill because we're supposed to feel bad for people
Speaker 3: like Andrew McCabe, who's so sad that you know, one
Speaker 3: of the people who succeeded him is Dan Bongino. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: They call him a blocatur election denier, all those kind
Speaker 3: of crazy things, but not actually looking at what he
Speaker 3: knows about the agency, whether he actually cares about the agency,
Speaker 3: which he does, cares about finding crime, which he does.
Speaker 3: They just see these folks as Trump lackeys who will
Speaker 3: do literally anything and everything and destroy the country, put
Speaker 3: people in camps, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, fifteen years ago, Barack Hussein Obama
Speaker 1: as president picked Dan Bongino to protect him. Former New
Speaker 1: York City cop, secret Service agent. He knows where the
Speaker 1: bodies are barried. He's a great guy. Put him with
Speaker 1: Cash Patel. Then that's reform. And of course, when I
Speaker 1: hear about Elon Musk not being confirmed by the Senate,
Speaker 1: not in the cabinet, affecting public policy, one name comes
Speaker 1: to mind. That's doctor Anthony Fauci, who was not in
Speaker 1: the cabinet. He did affect public policy. He was not
Speaker 1: confirmed by the Senate. And this guy fundamentally, and so
Speaker 1: many others of the past have fundamentally affected public policy
Speaker 1: who were not confirmed by the Senate. They were not
Speaker 1: in the cabinet and they affected public policy. But one
Speaker 1: rule applies to Fauci, but a different rule applies to
Speaker 1: Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this is. It is kind
Speaker 3: of amazing you hear these protests, government worker protests build
Speaker 3: that like, oh, we love serving the American people, we
Speaker 3: answer to the American people. Well, how do you actually
Speaker 3: answer to anyone? You know, we're just supposed to trust you.
Speaker 3: It is really amazing to see so many of these
Speaker 3: liberal journalists who get all warm and fuzzy inside and
Speaker 3: drills up their legs thinking about Watergate, about holding the
Speaker 3: powerful two account, have turned into only giving aid and
Speaker 3: comfort to the powerful. They trust everything the career government
Speaker 3: officials tell them because they their friends, instead of holding
Speaker 3: into account.
Speaker 2: And the other thing.
Speaker 1: Ninety five percent don't show up for work. But that's
Speaker 1: a different issue. But NewsBusters, Curtis Halk, you're the best
Speaker 1: there is and that I'd encourage people to go to
Speaker 1: the website constantly and get the truth, the old truth,
Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 2: At least it's unvarnished.
Speaker 1: In fact, you have up the actual words of the newscasters,
Speaker 1: the actual words of the columnists, that you can judge
Speaker 1: for yourself what's right, what's wrong. Curtis Halck, once again,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Curtis,
Speaker 1: you're a great American.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Bill. All right, let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: The truth will set us all free, garbage in from
Speaker 1: the media and garbage out. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,
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