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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Billy Cunningham is great American Court Media Research Center

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<v Speaker 1>and uniqustion shot orders at the headquarters with Curtis House.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they do is chronicle every day, every week,

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<v Speaker 1>every month, every five minutes what's happening in the mainstream media, because,

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<v Speaker 1>let's face it, garbage in, garbage out.

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<v Speaker 2>About forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Americans receive almost all their news from ABC, CBS

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<v Speaker 1>and NBC plus PBS. And if you get the bad

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<v Speaker 1>information in, you get bad results out. And the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of the media should be to inform the elector at

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<v Speaker 1>about important issues so they can cast an informed ballot

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes time to vote. That's not exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Curtis House with NewsBusters dot Org, the

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<v Speaker 1>executive director, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about DOGE coverage, and you have some great

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<v Speaker 1>stats here. From February the eighth until February the twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>what a sixteen day period that ABC, CBS, NBC spent

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<v Speaker 1>a total of one minute and fifty three seconds covering

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer savings by dose. In other words, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>cover it at all. On the other hand, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the PBS thing coming up but before we go there,

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<v Speaker 1>I have listed after list of mainstream media types that

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<v Speaker 1>have lost their job and lost their way, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Leicester Holt or a Laura O'Donnell, or a Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Todd or a Joy Read and others on MSNBC plus,

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<v Speaker 1>the view is going to be rained in when they're

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<v Speaker 1>cast adrift by ABC News. Just from your perspective, what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to the collapse of mainstream media and as

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<v Speaker 1>a consequence, is that good or bad for the American people? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's interesting to see all of these people

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly just lose their voices and think that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to go to substack or wherever else. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know in some of these cases a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>it's cost cutting in the case of Leicester Holt more

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<v Speaker 3>or less retiring, or Donald stepping away ho to coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>leaving this Today's Show right before the inauguration. In all

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<v Speaker 3>of those cases, the reporting, particularly with Pucks still in

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<v Speaker 3>Buyers or Liberal journalis donetheless, but his newsletters are pretty

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<v Speaker 3>thorough and substantivity is great sourcing say that, Hey, guess

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<v Speaker 3>what twenty million dollars a year for some of these

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<v Speaker 3>network news anchors Yeah, that's just completely unreasonable, Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not reasonable, it's not feasible, it's it's just it's not

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<v Speaker 3>sustainable for the bottom line based on the product that

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<v Speaker 3>they are putting out in the bias and how people

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<v Speaker 3>have tuned them out. So these folks instead of just saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to retire openly, they're suggesting that they're writing

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<v Speaker 3>off to the sunset, I need to spend more time

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<v Speaker 3>with my kids whatever else. In the case that people

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<v Speaker 3>like Joy read, I mean, she is the most toxic,

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<v Speaker 3>venomous person in maybe cable news history. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 3>has been incredibly horribly divisive. She was a DEI hired

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<v Speaker 3>to begin with because Chris Matthews was meted by this

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<v Speaker 3>woman named Lauren Bassett, and she was given a show,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in twenty twenty one, and you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really earn this, and so as such, her ratings

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<v Speaker 3>have not been great. She struggled to maintain an audience,

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<v Speaker 3>and now she's blaming racism or her supporters are blaming

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<v Speaker 3>racism for her losing her job, even though she's being

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<v Speaker 3>replaced by a panel show by two people who are

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<v Speaker 3>black and the other is Hispanic. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>funny there. So I think in this media landscape build

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<v Speaker 3>the real reality is it is it's cough cutting, And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the recognition of some of these network

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<v Speaker 3>executives that do we want this person or that person

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<v Speaker 3>to be the face of our brand because remember, MSNBC

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<v Speaker 3>is spinning off or being spun off by Comcast, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to have to stand on its own, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two legs with the NBC and a few other cable

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<v Speaker 3>networks and trying to sell itself to advertisers. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure what your read's been putting up is not what

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<v Speaker 3>most Americans want.

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<v Speaker 1>So in five or ten years, if you and I

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<v Speaker 1>would get together, talk radio will be here, podcast will

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<v Speaker 1>be here, websites will be here. Newspapers, the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>cutting down a tree somewhere in Minnesota, putting into on rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>giving it to a mill, then creating the pulp, and

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<v Speaker 2>That whole thing is gone. It doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Wall Street Journal in New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>not the only two papers in the country. Washington Post

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<v Speaker 1>loses one hundred million dollars a year. So from media

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<v Speaker 1>sources you have, the newspapers are gone, Television, big time

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<v Speaker 1>news is collapsing. People don't believe it. Did they cause

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<v Speaker 1>their own demise? Do you think the left wing media

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<v Speaker 1>and did they do it to that? Was this suicide

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<v Speaker 1>or homicide? I say suicide.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's definitely suicide. I mean it is a

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<v Speaker 3>complete refusal to accept outside criticism. You know, in my career,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a number of journalists block me. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>called them any names. I've merely written stories with the

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<v Speaker 3>full transcript of their news reports and said, here's what's

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with this segment. Here's where they don't do not

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<v Speaker 3>present an opposing viewpoint, or they leave out certain facts,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get blocked for it. You know, you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about politicians having thin skin and being insecure, journalists are

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<v Speaker 3>by far National journalists are by far the most thin

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<v Speaker 3>skin profession in America. It's not on planet Earth. They

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<v Speaker 3>are so avert to outside criticism. We saw this during

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<v Speaker 3>the first Trump administration. Chants of fake news were treated

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<v Speaker 3>like death threats, and which is just ridiculous and a

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<v Speaker 3>refusal from the liberal media to accept that The First

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<v Speaker 3>Amendment also applies to us. It's not just about you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>So this has been entirely self inflicted. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>too we may have talked about this in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, the liberal media have shown a lack of respect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just about not showing or carrying the other viewpoints,

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<v Speaker 3>it's when they do, they don't show respect. They do

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<v Speaker 3>not treat viewpoints with dignity. And I think American people

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<v Speaker 3>see that as such. And when you see that, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not being listened to, I'm not being respected. I'm being

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<v Speaker 3>dismissed as rubes, racists, sexist, homophobes, and all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would want to listen to this every day unless

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<v Speaker 3>you're like some sort of weird Navakis.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. The fact is, I've been talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>for years.

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<v Speaker 1>The mainstream media, NewsBusters dot Org, Mini Research Center, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of others actually do the work to have the

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<v Speaker 1>facts that over a sixteen day period there was little

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<v Speaker 1>or no reporting on those taxpayer savings. I've said for

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<v Speaker 1>years that two things that destroy this country is unbridled

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<v Speaker 1>southern border invasions, bringing with the disease, third world poverty

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<v Speaker 1>grinding into America of the Milton Friedman In one of

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<v Speaker 1>my four heads on the Mount Rushmore Conservatism, Milton Friedman

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<v Speaker 1>said that you can't have an existing first world country

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<v Speaker 1>cost of survival are going to be very high. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>the second aspect the taxpayer savings, is the federal deficit

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<v Speaker 1>of that accumulated debt thirty six trillion dollars is unbridled.

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<v Speaker 1>And so because it's an important issue, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>column up censored. ABC, CBS, and NBC spent less than

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes on dose taxpayer savings.

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<v Speaker 2>And this wasn't just over a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen days of coverage from February the eighth through February

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty fourth, they spent a total of one minute

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty three seconds on it. To break it down,

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<v Speaker 1>ABC News spent the least amount of time, which is zero.

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<v Speaker 1>NBC spent twenty six seconds on taxpayer savings, CBS spent

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<v Speaker 1>a minute in twenty seven which is really unbelievable. And

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<v Speaker 1>the key of what's happening is we can't have a

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<v Speaker 1>two trillion dollar annual deficit and a thirty six trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar accumulated debt and survive as a country. But they

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<v Speaker 1>don't give the information to the American people as to

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<v Speaker 1>why these taxpayer saidments are required. Please relate the findings

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<v Speaker 1>of your study. Yeah, well, first.

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<v Speaker 3>Of all, yeah, the top one two. In the addition

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<v Speaker 3>one minute fifty three seconds that it really only actually

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<v Speaker 3>applies to CBS and NBC because ABC was completely asleep

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<v Speaker 3>at the wheel. This is one of those things, Bill,

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<v Speaker 3>where the liberal media will try to deny, deny, deny,

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<v Speaker 3>and they may eventually be forced into admitting it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you see this as well with the border.

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<v Speaker 3>You not, You're not really seeing a ton about the

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<v Speaker 3>border now compared to what we did before. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 3>a reason for that, of course, maybe it's because things

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<v Speaker 3>are going well, and you know, they'll eventually be forced

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<v Speaker 3>to admit it. If ever, and I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>this might happen with DOSE. They're trying to shame people

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<v Speaker 3>into this concept that oh, they're moving too fast and

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to make mistakes. And maybe all this could

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<v Speaker 3>be true, but the liberal media don't want that. They

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<v Speaker 3>disagree with the notion at all of doing anything completely

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<v Speaker 3>with doing anything to cut the size of government. You

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<v Speaker 3>notice how in these segments about federal workers they find

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<v Speaker 3>just the right person who was laid off, who seems

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<v Speaker 3>like they did something that even a small government conservative

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<v Speaker 3>would say is something the government should be involved with.

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<v Speaker 3>The networks have done stories about the National Park Service

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<v Speaker 3>the CBS Evening News joined the others who have done

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<v Speaker 3>segments in the past that those is going to ruin

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<v Speaker 3>your summer vacations to the national parks and heck, guess

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<v Speaker 3>what bears may now eat you might eat you now

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<v Speaker 3>because there's not park strangers to be able to save you. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's so deperate.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline is CBS doose is going to get you

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<v Speaker 1>eaten by bears? The story? And then right, oh, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a story about PBS. I find it amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>PBS public broadcasting TV and radio, and many markets like

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<v Speaker 1>New York City has eight or nine PBS radio stations

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<v Speaker 1>in one city they employed literally one hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>It costs five hundred million dollars a year minimum, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's generally bad radio or bad TV that we paid for.

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<v Speaker 1>And why why hasn't that come up more forcefully. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you have a campaign in Washington now with the truck,

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<v Speaker 1>but explain what's going to happen to PBS in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>By that, I mean the next six months.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I'm so glad you started with that

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<v Speaker 3>premise all about about the affiliates. And what's funny is

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<v Speaker 3>like in Boston there's two affiliates and they're indistinguishable. The

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<v Speaker 3>programming is the same, you know, like the call letters

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<v Speaker 3>are different. I'm sure the signals are relatively similar. They're

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<v Speaker 3>both based in Boston. Like how is that? How does

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<v Speaker 3>that accomplish anything? Like what level? Why is that level

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<v Speaker 3>of done? And see necessary? And so that's just one

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<v Speaker 3>of the TACs that we're taking. One of the five

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<v Speaker 3>reasons of my colleague Tim Graha, who's been covering this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff in the late eighties, has said, is

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<v Speaker 3>why PBS NPR need to be defunded. Folks can follow

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<v Speaker 3>our brand new X account defund PBSNPR all one word

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<v Speaker 3>on X. It's a clearinghouse. Yes, on NewsBusters. In the MRC,

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<v Speaker 3>we have our we still share all of our blogs

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<v Speaker 3>and Facebook pages as well our PBS NPR content. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can go there for a one stop shop of

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<v Speaker 3>all of our PBS and PR content, and we really

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<v Speaker 3>encourage folks to check that out and then focus on

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<v Speaker 3>the DC local Reddit, the little message board chat room website.

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<v Speaker 3>The local DC section is already freaking out about this truck.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just losing their absolute minds and into this we

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<v Speaker 3>all say, you are welcome to give as much money

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<v Speaker 3>as you would like to PBS. We are merely dang

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<v Speaker 1>I think talk radio would love to get five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>next year that's going to be defunded. I've heard this

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<v Speaker 1>under Bush, under of course, under Reagan, or under the

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<v Speaker 1>first term of Donald Trump, or no Democrat, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was left as propaganda paid for by the government and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>and the headline is ABC, CBS, NBC lose their minds

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<v Speaker 3>It's so ridiculous, Like, first of all, they're treating his

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<v Speaker 3>right like like, you know, it's it's really ridiculous. They

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<v Speaker 3>have any experience in the agency. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>FBI Agents Association had demanded the caspital and President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>pick a career agent, and they didn't pick a career agent. Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's why he did this, you know. CBS Evening

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<v Speaker 3>News went as far as to suggests that the moves

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<v Speaker 3>terror attacks and this idea that they're emptying out or

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<v Speaker 3>Like are you kidding me? Oh, it upsets morale and

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<v Speaker 3>it hurts people's feelings that they're gonna have to go

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<v Speaker 3>actually work. They probably will still make the same money.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey guess look, guys, actually your dollars will go farther

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<v Speaker 3>by not being in the Washington, DC area. So this

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<v Speaker 3>not Bill because we're supposed to feel bad for people

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<v Speaker 3>They call him a blocatur election denier, all those kind

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<v Speaker 3>They just see these folks as Trump lackeys who will

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other thing, fifteen years ago, Barack Hussein Obama

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<v Speaker 1>as president picked Dan Bongino to protect him. Former New

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<v Speaker 1>York City cop, secret Service agent. He knows where the

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<v Speaker 1>hear about Elon Musk not being confirmed by the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. That's doctor Anthony Fauci, who was not in

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<v Speaker 1>who were not confirmed by the Senate. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>in the cabinet and they affected public policy. But one

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this is. It is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of amazing you hear these protests, government worker protests build

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<v Speaker 3>that like, oh, we love serving the American people, we

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<v Speaker 3>It is really amazing to see so many of these

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<v Speaker 3>comfort to the powerful. They trust everything the career government

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety five percent don't show up for work. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different issue. But NewsBusters, Curtis Halk, you're the best

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<v Speaker 1>there is and that I'd encourage people to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website constantly and get the truth, the old truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing but the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>At least it's unvarnished.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you have up the actual words of the newscasters,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual words of the columnists, that you can judge

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself what's right, what's wrong. Curtis Halck, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Curtis,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you. Bill. All right, let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth will set us all free, garbage in from

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<v Speaker 1>the media and garbage out. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,

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