Speaker 1: In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's
Speaker 1: and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen. It is the one and
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Speaker 2: the Magician, the boy with a lot of flair. And
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Speaker 3: Bows and Ties is the one.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking everything that happened on the gold
Speaker 2: cause and off the golf course. What we're trying to
Speaker 2: do here is to breach the gap between personal players,
Speaker 2: care your players, and those who don't play golf. So,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't listened to any of
Speaker 2: the episodes, listen, this is very, very simple. The only
Speaker 2: thing that I need you to do is to get
Speaker 2: yourself and ice cold glass of water because it's about
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Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 2: I've got two guests joining me today and we're going
Speaker 2: to be having a lot of fun. Don't be jealous,
Speaker 2: don't feel like you're missing out if you are not
Speaker 2: part of the interview, because guess what, at any point
Speaker 2: in time, you can just holler at me and tell me, Tony,
Speaker 2: I want to be your guest on your show, and
Speaker 2: then we will have the same amount of fun. So,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, with that taking much more of your time,
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Speaker 2: And then when we come back after the break, I
Speaker 2: will be introducing our guests for today.
Speaker 3: You will be shocked.
Speaker 2: Because I can tell you right now one of my
Speaker 2: guests has just confirmed that he is on the road
Speaker 2: coming back from a golf course. First time he went there.
Speaker 2: He just went to have a lot of fun. So
Speaker 2: we will catch up with him in the next couple
Speaker 2: of minutes. So let's go for the two minute break,
Speaker 2: and then when we come back, you will know who
Speaker 2: we are definitely inviting or interviewing today.
Speaker 1: In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, were birdies
Speaker 1: and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
Speaker 1: and Tees, your passport to the golfing universe, where every
Speaker 1: swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for staying tuned in.
Speaker 2: As you know, it is the one and only Tony
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Speaker 2: know how we can firstly help you improve your game, secondly,
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Speaker 2: improve our podcast. So, ladies and gentlemen, I promised you
Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful episode today. I've got two guests and
Speaker 2: they started what we call Let's Golf. So you know,
Speaker 2: when I got to hear of the name let's Golf,
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, it's very simple, it's catchy,
Speaker 2: you can't forget it, and it gets straight to business
Speaker 2: to say, let's play golf. So, without taking any more time,
Speaker 2: I'm going to introduce the one and only on my
Speaker 2: level and the Master, Tony Matari, who will be joining
Speaker 2: us today. But I don't think I've done much justice.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I needed someone to play drum roll in order for
Speaker 2: me to bring in my guests. So Tony, thank you
Speaker 2: for coming through and for joining us.
Speaker 3: But please, if I.
Speaker 2: May ask, if I'm a humbly request that you both
Speaker 2: reintroduce yourselves thorally, let us know who employe is, what's
Speaker 2: let's go, how did you get into golf? And then
Speaker 2: the same would apply to about Tonia as well, whom
Speaker 2: I know right now this man is driving, he is
Speaker 2: from a golf game. So, ladies and gentlemen, whoever is
Speaker 2: listening out there, there's never a pointing time that we
Speaker 2: don't play golf. Golf is a lifestyle, golf is a
Speaker 2: part of us. So I was important let me hand
Speaker 2: over the mic to you. Please let us know who
Speaker 2: employe is, what's happening in post space?
Speaker 3: How did we get into the game?
Speaker 4: Evening, Thank you Tony for your time, and yeah, thank
Speaker 4: you for the invite, and greetings to all the listeners.
Speaker 4: And I can pormally from Soway to born and brought
Speaker 4: up goes Away to I grew up more prouty and
Speaker 4: north and yeah, and now I used to go to
Speaker 4: social golf events and friends would invite me. They just
Speaker 4: go to golf days, and I would just dress up,
Speaker 4: look cute, you know how golfers are.
Speaker 5: And I would just want to play the party and just.
Speaker 4: And just dress up and you know, and we'll be
Speaker 4: stressed that the night before.
Speaker 5: What are we wearing?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 4: You know, and prepare accordingly. And now golf came and
Speaker 4: I started practicing. And one friend I remember, she asked,
Speaker 4: but why don't you study playing golf because of you
Speaker 4: attend so many events, And I'm like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think I should, you know, And I started my lessons.
Speaker 4: You won't believe this year at twenty twenty five Cat January.
Speaker 6: That's when I started practicing. I would Funny was teaching.
Speaker 4: Us how to play LINTERV thing and then I was like, okay, fine,
Speaker 4: I'm en doing this. And then started playing my first
Speaker 4: Mashi le Lear friend and yeah, that's how I started.
Speaker 4: And then now I got addicted to a point where
Speaker 4: I'm not even thinking I'm stopping geeks. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 4: bought my my first clubs. I was like, no, I
Speaker 4: don't have money. But so that's how I started. And
Speaker 4: then Tony and I have been as friends for a while.
Speaker 4: We met through a friend and with your friend and yeah.
Speaker 6: And we fell in love with the same thing. And yeah,
Speaker 6: I think I'll just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pass over the mic to him because if he'll
Speaker 4: tell you more about how any this left golf.
Speaker 5: Journey.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm.
Speaker 8: Obviously born from Soweto. I lived and lived in the
Speaker 8: north for twenty seven years of my life. Four Ways
Speaker 8: and uh Foys, Branston and rent talk Ridge.
Speaker 7: That's where I learned. That's where I got into the
Speaker 7: golf fever.
Speaker 8: I was through a friend in Italian Minra Jerrisen Youurini
Speaker 8: when I was fourteen, and then when I got varsity,
Speaker 8: I stopped playing golf because you know, as we love lifestyle.
Speaker 7: Started playing golf.
Speaker 8: When my mom passed away in twenty and fifteen.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I had to move back to Soeto.
Speaker 8: And when I moved back to Soweto, I saw Corre Soweto.
Speaker 7: Needs lifestyle things. No I started.
Speaker 8: I started by bringing Sway to Polo Cup, the first
Speaker 8: polo event in any township. And then after that I
Speaker 8: saw there was a need. When I found out that
Speaker 8: there was a I saw it a country club. I
Speaker 8: was like, hey, there's a need for this thing, you know.
Speaker 8: Then I went saw to put country club this year
Speaker 8: actually in April, we just to go play. We played
Speaker 8: and after we were playing, I was like, Wow, this
Speaker 8: is something that literally needs to be brought to black people,
Speaker 8: not knowing that live golf was actually coming, not knowing
Speaker 8: that live golf was coming to South Africa. And when
Speaker 8: I saw no, I mean fusing lifestyle and golf, why
Speaker 8: don't I do that? And I decided, Hey do that?
Speaker 8: You know then import I think came to the second one.
Speaker 8: When I came, it was like, hey, dog, let's let's
Speaker 8: make something out of it.
Speaker 7: Let's make something out of this.
Speaker 8: And because of the chime the networks that we have,
Speaker 8: then we built this thing. So we've been operating since
Speaker 8: April and we had our Gnari now on the first
Speaker 8: of November.
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome stuff. Awesome.
Speaker 2: So so you you guys, I mean there's two different stories.
Speaker 2: I mean, Anthony, you've been playing, you mentioned around the
Speaker 2: age of fourteen, and you've you've left for all these
Speaker 2: years up until twenty twenty five when she decided she
Speaker 2: was to play.
Speaker 7: Now, So.
Speaker 2: With without putting you on the spot, I mean, I
Speaker 2: just want to find out. I mean, back then, if
Speaker 2: you were to look at golf back then when you
Speaker 2: started and compared to what's happening now, what would you
Speaker 2: say are the major major dynamic changes that have actually
Speaker 2: occurred over time.
Speaker 8: My people are more involved now in golf. White people play,
Speaker 8: My people playing more. And when I say my people,
Speaker 8: I'm talking about black people.
Speaker 7: I was surrounded.
Speaker 8: I was surrounded when I started golf, I was surrounded
Speaker 8: by white people, literally surrounded by white people.
Speaker 7: Person introduced me to that sport.
Speaker 9: With a white person, you know, And so that's the
Speaker 9: major when I can say that's a major major change,
Speaker 9: was most black people are involved in golf.
Speaker 7: I mean, you've.
Speaker 8: Got Royal, You've got the Royal Country Club and uh
Speaker 8: brag band it's owned by a black person.
Speaker 3: No, so awesome.
Speaker 8: So more black people are involved in golf, and that's
Speaker 8: the that's the that's the biggest, biggest difference from when
Speaker 8: I started to Now.
Speaker 3: That's some stuff.
Speaker 2: And then on your side, I was important. I mean
Speaker 2: you you mentioned that you used to attend a lot
Speaker 2: of golf days and obviously from the outside you would
Speaker 2: view it as a male dominated spot to some extent.
Speaker 2: So getting into the spot, how did it feel for
Speaker 2: you and how was the reception?
Speaker 5: There's the reception has been great.
Speaker 4: I don't want to lie, and you know, and women
Speaker 4: in golf now, so introduced me to my first mass,
Speaker 4: she played with me and she you know, she was
Speaker 4: holding my hand throughout, and you know, you'd be amazed
Speaker 4: that women in golf fix each other's crowns. And that's
Speaker 4: what I love and I felt with that because of
Speaker 4: we support each other.
Speaker 5: We show you.
Speaker 4: They'll literally show you how to open a club, how
Speaker 4: to close a club for a certain you know, tea
Speaker 4: off and so on and so forth. So that's what
Speaker 4: I love and I fell in love with. Also the
Speaker 4: male figures. They are there to assist, you know, they
Speaker 4: are there.
Speaker 5: To work with you. They walk with you, you know.
Speaker 4: And that's the only reason I'm still here because now
Speaker 4: look at me, and I've been playing.
Speaker 6: And you know, I look forward to playing eight in
Speaker 6: all and.
Speaker 4: The nightdeing hole is the best as well, because wow, and.
Speaker 5: You socialize with these people.
Speaker 4: You get to know people's lives on the fairway, you know,
Speaker 4: and we talk.
Speaker 5: And it's like a therapy.
Speaker 4: We are literally and if you're going through a lot,
Speaker 4: go to a golf course and you learn how to
Speaker 4: deal with yourself.
Speaker 5: I was an impatient person, I truly was.
Speaker 4: I was telling someone that I am also golf is
Speaker 4: teaching me how to be patient because I was never
Speaker 4: a patient person and when I would want a person
Speaker 4: to do this or treat me like this, and now
Speaker 4: I just pause and look at things in a in
Speaker 4: another person's eye, and I'm like, okay, fine, this is
Speaker 4: how we're going to do things. And and yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's been it's been a great journey and I don't
Speaker 4: think i'll leave anytime soon.
Speaker 3: Awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, there's something that Bulony mentioned earlier on
Speaker 2: and he spoke about the need for lifestyle activities and
Speaker 2: that's basically how the whole concept of less golf came about. Now,
Speaker 2: I just want to post this question to you or
Speaker 2: to say, when we talk about let's go, what would
Speaker 2: be the core philosophy that drives the movement of less.
Speaker 4: Golf More of socializing, teaching people that we as young people,
Speaker 4: we can join in. We can love something different to
Speaker 4: what we are used to. You know, we can party
Speaker 4: on the fair with and that's that's for me, Like
Speaker 4: it's it's golf, meeting and playing and socializing and connecting
Speaker 4: and businesses as well. Closing some businesses because some brands
Speaker 4: fell in love with us.
Speaker 5: And we are so grateful.
Speaker 4: As Tony said, with the connections that we have. Brands
Speaker 4: came on board and they still coming. They want a calendar,
Speaker 4: So let's golf is more of our fun and social
Speaker 4: having fun on the fairway. That's that's where I am
Speaker 4: currently m hmm.
Speaker 2: And then to you, Tony, I mean, just to care
Speaker 2: on from what has just explained the most critical element
Speaker 2: for you that you would give credit to achieving this
Speaker 2: momentum that you guys have, all the attraction that you
Speaker 2: guys have gained over the period that their entity has
Speaker 2: been established, What would you say are the key elements
Speaker 2: that has actually given the drive inclusiveness.
Speaker 8: I think the problem is that I've realized that a
Speaker 8: lot of and I'm not trashing other people's golf days.
Speaker 8: I'm not trashing so forth things that were very inclusive.
Speaker 8: We're very very inclusive. That's why we have a golf
Speaker 8: We have a golf clinic on the day of our
Speaker 8: golf day, so while everybody's playing is there's a golf
Speaker 8: clinic for people that want to get into golf, you know.
Speaker 8: So the most important thing is about inclusiveness, because there's
Speaker 8: already been the stuck up golf already as a stigma
Speaker 8: that it is a stuck up sport.
Speaker 7: It's for certain demographics, so forth, so forth.
Speaker 8: So forth. So we're breaking all of that. We bring inclusively.
Speaker 8: We bring we like literally from skill level from the
Speaker 8: beginner all the way to the social social golfer. And
Speaker 8: that's what has grown our brand so much. I mean,
Speaker 8: I'm talking about the last golf day that we had.
Speaker 8: I think we had forty five, forty five people at
Speaker 8: the golf clinic, which was crazy.
Speaker 7: Well literally the pent of them are female.
Speaker 8: So well, people want to get into the sport, but
Speaker 8: they don't know how to get into the sport. So
Speaker 8: we've given them the avenue to get into the sports.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: And I mean that's very interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to add on that, And as Sloaney said,
Speaker 4: we're removing the pressure and formalities.
Speaker 5: You know, we're just trying to make.
Speaker 4: It look fun because of everybody respect the etiquette of golf,
Speaker 4: and you know, we just wanted to be.
Speaker 5: A next social environment where.
Speaker 4: People can have real conversation and enjoy themselves while playing
Speaker 4: golf because of it's not as serial as sport. People
Speaker 4: have fun on the fairway. So yeah, I think I'll
Speaker 4: give that to Prony as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 2: To be quite honest, I like I like the idea
Speaker 2: of saying, you know what, for as much as other
Speaker 2: people are already in the golf course, I'm saying, let
Speaker 2: those who have never touched the club, or those who
Speaker 2: are still learning how to play, be entertained through a
Speaker 2: formal lesson. And I think that takes away that the
Speaker 2: whole intimidation, because, in all honesty, if I was to
Speaker 2: walk into a driving range and then I approach a
Speaker 2: pro to say this and I need lessons, I will
Speaker 2: fasonally look at what other people are doing on the
Speaker 2: driving range, and then I would put myself in that
Speaker 2: shoes to say, yeah, if a Mambara like me who
Speaker 2: doesn't know anything, was they just walking there?
Speaker 3: How would I feel about it?
Speaker 2: But if it's a collective, it makes it easier because
Speaker 2: everybody can then relate to say, we are all leaving
Speaker 2: the same thing. So that's a that's a very cool concept.
Speaker 2: That's a very cool concept, guys. I love it. And
Speaker 2: then I just want to carry on onto something that
Speaker 2: Tony also mentioned. I mean, you mentioned Royal Oak, you
Speaker 2: mentioned a way to country club as well, and I
Speaker 2: would presume that let's golf, like you said, it's more
Speaker 2: about being inclusive. So I just want to find out
Speaker 2: from both both of you guys, say, the importance of
Speaker 2: showcasing these underrated golf courses or these community golf courses
Speaker 2: that are in Black society, black communities, or are black owned,
Speaker 2: how important is it for you guys to actually promote
Speaker 2: them and put them on the length same landscape as
Speaker 2: your most exclusive or most famous golf courses in Houting.
Speaker 8: You know, so let's say it has over four hundred
Speaker 8: golf courses, Like literally has over four hundred golf courses,
Speaker 8: but people are playing the same golf courses.
Speaker 7: They're literally playing the same golf courses that everybody knows.
Speaker 8: I mean, and like I'm going to say again, I'm
Speaker 8: not trushing anybody's golf courses. Glenn Dower, they play Glenn Dower,
Speaker 8: they play Copper Leaf, you know, they play the same
Speaker 8: golf courses over and over, and going to community courses,
Speaker 8: you actually realize our BEAUTI for these courses are Nobody
Speaker 8: knows that the word to country Club is rated in
Speaker 8: the top twenty based greens in the whole of It's
Speaker 8: rated in the top twenty best greens in the whole
Speaker 8: of essay, But nobody knows about like hardly people know
Speaker 8: about Soweto.
Speaker 7: Only serious avid golfers know about Soto, you know. And
Speaker 7: this is a thing. It's about, it's about promoting.
Speaker 8: How how do we get everybody to Cleane Dower if
Speaker 8: they don't play Kane Dower, if they don't play the
Speaker 8: other course side.
Speaker 3: So we need to.
Speaker 7: Get playing those courses in order for us.
Speaker 8: I mean, we've got we've got we had Okay, let
Speaker 8: me not say we've got we had some of the
Speaker 8: best golfers and essay in the world.
Speaker 7: We had Ernie Else, we had.
Speaker 8: Louis stays In, we had some of the beast golfers,
Speaker 8: but don't bring major tournaments to SA because of the
Speaker 8: level of our golf courses. The only thing that we
Speaker 8: have is Netbank. Net Bank doesn't even draw a Tiger
Speaker 8: Woods or Rory McElroy. So we need to uplift all
Speaker 8: the golf courses around in order for us to start
Speaker 8: being able to attract talent from overseas to start playing
Speaker 8: our golf courses.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: That's that that's the major reason. That's amazing, and that's
Speaker 8: why I'm going to be very honest. That's why I
Speaker 8: love Live. I love the golf. I love it with
Speaker 8: the more heart because it's doing things that the PAS.
Speaker 7: Did not do.
Speaker 8: Is by you know, having like the golf courses where
Speaker 8: Live is. People did not know about things until Live
Speaker 8: started moving to those golf courses and having us. So
Speaker 8: now they realize these are amazing golf courses and that's
Speaker 8: where you want to be those people that that are
Speaker 8: able to attract, that are able to attract the international talent.
Speaker 8: But by building up local golf courses, I mean that
Speaker 8: brings forty nine billion rand into.
Speaker 7: S a area. What why that's a lot? Why?
Speaker 8: That's why can't that forty nine billion rand up lived
Speaker 8: the communities that we live in. I mean if you
Speaker 8: go to if you go to Jackal Creek, Jacko Creek
Speaker 8: is next door to a squad camp.
Speaker 5: M h.
Speaker 7: To a squatter camp.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 8: For this money that we're bringing in needs to build
Speaker 8: the squatter camps that are next door.
Speaker 6: True Yeah, yeah, not true.
Speaker 4: And adding ending on that, Sony, you know, as as
Speaker 4: Let's go, we sure we showcasing community golf courses a
Speaker 4: huge part of Let's Golf. We it's becoming our mission
Speaker 4: to for people to fall in love with these local courses,
Speaker 4: and we are making it a hartbeat of every golf
Speaker 4: day that we want to host, you know, and we've enjoyed,
Speaker 4: you know, be no new one, and so now we're
Speaker 4: just trying to move forward with getting into the different courses,
Speaker 4: to making sure that people really know that there are
Speaker 4: golf courses and they're accessible and people can play golf.
Speaker 4: Everywhere you want to play golf, just go there and
Speaker 4: find out what is happening and then you can take
Speaker 4: it from there. So I truly believe that with us
Speaker 4: trying different golf courses, it makes it melts our hearts because.
Speaker 5: We're giving back to the community of z.
Speaker 4: And spirits and so on and so forth with whichever
Speaker 4: golf course we choose at whatever particular event we host.
Speaker 4: So that's our mission, and we are looking forward to
Speaker 4: playing more to at more golf courses that people don't
Speaker 4: recognize or people don't know, and you know, and it's
Speaker 4: very nice because people, yeah, are really enjoying it.
Speaker 7: I literally agree. Of course, I'm going to be very
Speaker 7: honest in it.
Speaker 10: Told you we started Soweto, so the first two, then
Speaker 10: it was Royal Oak, then it was Jacko Creek.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had funded all of them, momer lie to you,
Speaker 8: I had funded all of them. But the most fun
Speaker 8: that I ever had was at Royal Oak, where a
Speaker 8: lot of people didn't want to come to a lot
Speaker 8: of avid golfers, no one to play, and so forth
Speaker 8: and so forth.
Speaker 7: And the avid golfer like avid golfers that came and played,
Speaker 7: they were.
Speaker 8: Like, hey, Doug bro they saw Royal Oak in a
Speaker 8: different light when they played at our golfer, you know.
Speaker 8: And the thing is that I have more fun at
Speaker 8: the golf courses that are not known than the golf courses.
Speaker 3: That I do.
Speaker 7: Know.
Speaker 8: The golf courses that you know have become very pompous
Speaker 8: and very arrogant. You know, they've got they've got so
Speaker 8: many rules and A B, C, D, E F G.
Speaker 8: You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't
Speaker 8: do this, you can't do that. And that's why these
Speaker 8: and I hope once we bring these golf courses and
Speaker 8: standards that apparently are PGA standards standards, once we bring
Speaker 8: them up, I hope they don't change the way that
Speaker 8: they conduct their business.
Speaker 7: Because they conduct they are very hard away.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's golf courses that don't even take you
Speaker 8: seriously when you arrive there, they don't take you seriously
Speaker 8: at all. But that small community golf course will take
Speaker 8: will will treat you like a king. And that's exactly
Speaker 8: what we need. That's what we need in golf. Golf
Speaker 8: it shouldn't. Golf should not be a selective sport.
Speaker 7: It should not.
Speaker 8: We are living, we are living in times where things
Speaker 8: are no longer selective. That doesn't need the doesn't lead
Speaker 8: for this, There isn't lead for this, doesn't lead for
Speaker 8: I mean a boy that a boy can open a
Speaker 8: YouTube channel now and become a multi millionaire mault type. No,
Speaker 8: you know, and uh, Porsche cannot reject there's a multi billionaires.
Speaker 8: So why are we doing this in sport? Why I
Speaker 8: was doing this in sports?
Speaker 7: We should include. We should be the most inclusive. We
Speaker 7: should be the most inclusive. Sports brings people people together,
Speaker 7: it does.
Speaker 4: It's more of the transformation. We're transforming the courses into
Speaker 4: the high energy that you know, when people look at
Speaker 4: the events that we're hosting, you know, we move forward
Speaker 4: and people fall in love. They're falling in love literally
Speaker 4: and be like, when is your golf day?
Speaker 6: When is your golf day. So I would say, Tony,
Speaker 6: you know, as much.
Speaker 4: As it's heart sometimes we are moving, my boy, like
Speaker 4: I'm loving this all day.
Speaker 6: Every day.
Speaker 3: All right, awesome stuff.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: I really like your inputs and your views around golf
Speaker 2: as a whole, not just looking at it from a
Speaker 2: social point of view, but also the broader spectrum. To say,
Speaker 2: even when you look at the professional level, whether it
Speaker 2: be the golf course or the players themselves. We need
Speaker 2: to start moving at a different year. We need to
Speaker 2: start evolving. But what I would really like for us
Speaker 2: to do is to go for a two minute break
Speaker 2: when we come back. I actually want us to drill
Speaker 2: deep into Les's Golf because there's many things that Let's
Speaker 2: Golf is doing and people are not really aware of
Speaker 2: the earthquake that Let's Golf is bringing to the social
Speaker 2: golf space. So I actually want us to delve deeper
Speaker 2: into it and decipher where we will be seeing Les's
Speaker 2: Golf in the next couple of years, because I can
Speaker 2: tell you at the momentum that you guys are moving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the sky is the limit.
Speaker 6: We keep on trying awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: So ladies and gentlemen, we're just going away for a
Speaker 2: two minute break. Please make sure that you refill those
Speaker 2: uh cool drinks, water, average, whatever it is, as long
Speaker 2: as it's called. Because for as much as we are talking,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm getting heated up that Hence, while I'm
Speaker 2: saying listen, when we come there, we're going to delf
Speaker 2: depay m to our audience out there. If you are
Speaker 2: drinking hot beverage, just take off your top because you're
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Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's
Speaker 1: and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. There's balls and
Speaker 1: t's your passport to the golfing universe, where every swing
Speaker 1: tells the story and every part has its potchline. Get
Speaker 1: ready to step onto the last screens and dive into
Speaker 1: the world of divids, drives and delightful better.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is still the one
Speaker 2: and only twenty two in the Magician the world with
Speaker 2: a lot of flair. I am a classic man and
Speaker 2: if you've just only now listen, ladies and gentlemen, I
Speaker 2: am joined by Tony Mattare and Paul Malday Well from
Speaker 2: Let's Golf. So, ladies and gentlemen, we had a beautiful
Speaker 2: first half discussion with our guest today. It's a pity
Speaker 2: that Tony has to leave us because he is driving.
Speaker 2: Get I told you, guys, we all was Golfye, this
Speaker 2: man drove all the way to Bloemfontein to play golf.
Speaker 2: Now he's on his way back, so let's make sure
Speaker 2: that the man focuses on the road and he reaches
Speaker 2: home siffly. So without wasting any more time, Tony, are
Speaker 2: you still with me?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 7: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: Listen, Tony, I just want to say thank you once
Speaker 2: again for gracing us with your presence today and for
Speaker 2: having a chat with us. I understand you're still on
Speaker 2: the road, so let me not continue still in your time.
Speaker 2: I would like you to focus on the road and
Speaker 2: make sure that you reach home safe, and then the
Speaker 2: rest of the conversation we can take offline. It has
Speaker 2: been great having you on the show. I believe that
Speaker 2: your colleague I will definitely lead us with the next conversation.
Speaker 3: Awesome stuff. So, ladies and gentlemen, we have lost Tony.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he is driving, but fear not because
Speaker 2: is still with us.
Speaker 3: And then we're going to have a beautiful chat to here.
Speaker 5: I'm so here.
Speaker 3: Awesome stuff. Awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: So I you know, I'm just going to ask you
Speaker 2: something very random, because I mean, Tony went to a
Speaker 2: different province to go and play golf, right, which is
Speaker 2: very beautiful. Now on your side, I want to understand
Speaker 2: why didn't you play golf today?
Speaker 4: I'm catching up with work. But the suppossibility of me
Speaker 4: playing God dragons Burg is a surprise from a friend
Speaker 4: and literally I paid my accommodation to go play God
Speaker 4: Paris next week. So my next week is is chocolate
Speaker 4: blocker with literally two golf days for.
Speaker 5: In different in different provinces.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's gonna be a crazy one, paraise if
Speaker 4: if I don't make it to the Dragon's Burg. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's how golf. That's that's the love of golf.
Speaker 3: I envy you.
Speaker 2: I wish I could just jump into your luggage back
Speaker 2: and then, yeah, I just played the game.
Speaker 5: How I wish I can play more. You don't understand,
Speaker 5: mm hmm, But.
Speaker 3: I believe so.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen a lot of people who would say, listen, no,
Speaker 2: I started playing golf when I was young, and then
Speaker 2: I stopped, and then later when I started again, now
Speaker 2: I can't stop.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's something about the psychology of golf, the fact that
Speaker 2: you can go through a term al of emotions, a
Speaker 2: whole lot of emotions in a couple of seconds.
Speaker 3: I think that's what.
Speaker 2: Really, it's that dopamine rush in your body.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not true, not true. It's it's that adrenaline and
Speaker 4: I don't know where it comes is coming from, but
Speaker 4: it's there. It's something that you can't even explain it
Speaker 4: to anyone. But you are just my friends. I remember
Speaker 4: the September events and my friends were like, so, we're
Speaker 4: gonna see you after again, after another one.
Speaker 6: So just at the nineteen hole. I'll find you when
Speaker 6: I come back. Okay.
Speaker 4: So they didn't understand, and I don't expect everyone to
Speaker 4: understand what golf is, but me inviting them is for for.
Speaker 5: Them to get comfortable.
Speaker 4: And you know, because of we friends, we support each
Speaker 4: other in terms of the DJ. If they do go
Speaker 4: to DJ and gigs, I do go with them, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's just one of the things we try and
Speaker 4: support each other as possible as we can. And I'm
Speaker 4: loving the sisterhood, the brotherhood that we as a family
Speaker 4: that we are building.
Speaker 6: As as as let's.
Speaker 2: Golf, yeah, no, one hundred percent. And I mean speaking
Speaker 2: of DJing, I do understand that there's something very distinct
Speaker 2: about Let's golf, and there's mainly balancing the structure of
Speaker 2: the game with a vibrant, laid back atmosphere. So I
Speaker 2: would like to get a bit of an understanding them
Speaker 2: from your side as the founder of Let's Golf, to say, obviously,
Speaker 2: like Tony alluded idea, there's a lot of rules around
Speaker 2: golf courses. There's there's a lot of principles that people
Speaker 2: would follow. So I want to get an understand them
Speaker 2: from your side to say, when Let's Golf, uh does
Speaker 2: events on the golf course, how how do they then
Speaker 2: find that perfect balance between the sport itself and other
Speaker 2: lifestyle related activities if I can put it where whether
Speaker 2: it be DJing, whether it be other fun activities that
Speaker 2: can be merged with golf.
Speaker 4: With us balancing the eighteenth hole, we try and challenge
Speaker 4: it with full on party atmosphere, right, And it's definitely
Speaker 4: a unique challenge because Let's Golf. We want Let's Golf
Speaker 4: to stand out. Golf traditionally has a quiet structure.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: And while the DJ with the DJs that we invite
Speaker 4: our friends, we are grateful to have such, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's driven they it's a driven event where we
Speaker 4: bring energies and we are becoming spontaneous, you know, with
Speaker 4: completely a different vibe.
Speaker 5: So the keys is.
Speaker 4: Designing the day so that both elements of both golf
Speaker 4: and the DJ dmerge, you know, and even one so
Speaker 4: even though we try and play soft music here and
Speaker 4: there when people are there, and then later on the
Speaker 4: nineteenth hole, people are there to dance and you know,
Speaker 4: and the music just flows where the DJ. We try
Speaker 4: and position the DJ elsewhere where it would it wouldn't
Speaker 4: disturb others because at that event we just have to
Speaker 4: be mindful of other people as well. So that's how
Speaker 4: we are looking at it, and it's it's it's it's working.
Speaker 6: Very nicely and we are enjoying it, and.
Speaker 4: We want to eat to truly make sure that people.
Speaker 6: Do enjoy the music they do enjoy And.
Speaker 4: Because of we take out flyers and say we have
Speaker 4: invited this DJ, we've invited this one, and you know
Speaker 4: the time slots. This one will come with a different
Speaker 4: gender and the other one will play deep house, and
Speaker 4: you know, it flows. It's just something that flows.
Speaker 5: And we really.
Speaker 6: Feeling the whole natural climates rather than.
Speaker 4: The wrong things that people always think when they when
Speaker 4: they think of golf.
Speaker 5: So I think that's where we are so yeah.
Speaker 4: And we we are loving it and they're the the
Speaker 4: end our and November event went very well, you know,
Speaker 4: and people were enjoying and with the DJ lineup, people
Speaker 4: were excited to be dancing at the golf club.
Speaker 5: So at the nineteen hole.
Speaker 2: And I think, well, for the most like, people will
Speaker 2: always reiterate that golf is more about networking and the congraderate.
Speaker 2: I think setting such an atmosphere also give them the
Speaker 2: comfort to say, listen that there is enough, say, safety
Speaker 2: precautions taken on the golf course, because many times people
Speaker 2: just go there to hit balls and play and then
Speaker 2: just talk to each other.
Speaker 3: There's number one.
Speaker 2: Number two, it's a metal of saying I am around
Speaker 2: people that I feel comfortable with. I mean, spending five
Speaker 2: hours with someone and you still don't feel safe with them,
Speaker 2: then you're the criminal.
Speaker 5: And listen, it's it's it's it's an open field.
Speaker 4: It's so you just have to engage and just you know,
Speaker 4: the energy you have to align. The energy is massive
Speaker 4: and yeah, and and then of the day you've got friends,
Speaker 4: you've exchanged numbers, and you are giving each other therapy.
Speaker 4: Somewhere somehow you are able to connect this one to
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 5: So that's how I look at it. So yeah, and
Speaker 5: if you don't enjoy.
Speaker 3: That, you are the problems, no hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Now, now just to go back to I will regress
Speaker 2: a bit when asking this, but I think just to touch.
Speaker 3: Base again on let's go, let's go business model. Right.
Speaker 3: You mentioned you mentioned that.
Speaker 2: On your golf days you also have golf clinics, right,
Speaker 2: and now I just want to get a clear understanding
Speaker 2: to say, what is the importance of having a golf
Speaker 2: clinic on your golf days? And without even leading anything,
Speaker 2: I would then say, you know what, you want to
Speaker 2: create more golfers so that your golf days are packed
Speaker 2: and full, and then more and more golfers keep on
Speaker 2: coming from your golf.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: You know what, at the end of the day, people
Speaker 4: are interested in this golf and some didn't know how
Speaker 4: to join in and they don't even know how to
Speaker 4: hold a club. So but with us introducing that, it's
Speaker 4: giving them hope that one day people will definitely play
Speaker 4: golf with us, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's more of breaking that thing that people thought
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 4: More of a stackup taper sports and it's not. It's
Speaker 4: just bringing people that you know, some people I know
Speaker 4: one of our friends Fifi now is going for her
Speaker 4: lessons after with after our our golf clinic. So you know,
Speaker 4: people are interested, and especially women are interested.
Speaker 5: But we we were scared.
Speaker 6: We just saw that it was a more male you know.
Speaker 4: So it's just one of those things where people are
Speaker 4: loving it and we are enjoying it and listen, some
Speaker 4: are just coming for the vibe obviously, but golf clinic
Speaker 4: has showed us that with the with the pro that
Speaker 4: is teaching them and showing them how and with the
Speaker 4: feedback that we get at the end of the day
Speaker 4: to say, you know what, I've enjoyed this and the
Speaker 4: guy was very caring and showing us how to do things,
Speaker 4: and yeah, and that's the obviously the feedback we want.
Speaker 4: But obviously some wouldn't give positive feedback. But we loving
Speaker 4: what we are getting and then we keep on learning
Speaker 4: every day.
Speaker 2: Now Here here here, here's what been picking up. I
Speaker 2: mean with regards to LESKOV And like I said, I
Speaker 2: love the model. I believe that the model on its
Speaker 2: own is a winner.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So I've noticed that the fundamental building blocks of les
Speaker 2: GOV would be to incorporate the lifestyle elements or should
Speaker 2: I should I say the more relaxed elements of making
Speaker 2: a successful golf day two the more rigid structures that
Speaker 2: are usually being employed during golf days. So in essence,
Speaker 2: you you basically make people meet brands, and obviously certain
Speaker 2: brands would be viewed as not fitting to be in
Speaker 2: particular golf courses or would be uh looked over if
Speaker 2: people were to look for sponsorships. Now, I just want
Speaker 2: to get an understanding from your side to say, when
Speaker 2: you go out and six sponsorship, what what would be
Speaker 2: the critical things that you look for in the sponsorship
Speaker 2: and how would you then related to less Cow's entire
Speaker 2: business model to say that this particular sponsor or this
Speaker 2: particular brand, it's in line with what our core philosophy is.
Speaker 4: Let's call yes okay for number one, the logistics to
Speaker 4: say the honest truth, Tony. We strategize as possible as
Speaker 4: we can, you know, and we map out our placements
Speaker 4: so that the energy feels evenly disputed, especially.
Speaker 6: With the brands we bring on board.
Speaker 4: Like with alcohol, our con is loved and it makes
Speaker 4: us very calm and at the growth because of we've
Speaker 4: got sports with maybe a brand, a certain brand will
Speaker 4: wait for us at the certain hole and then they'll just.
Speaker 6: Give shorts, you know, we take pictures, we'll.
Speaker 4: Play music for two seconds, you know, and then with
Speaker 4: one of Lorial was one of our sponsors as well, is.
Speaker 6: One of our sponsors.
Speaker 4: Because of we have to give them the calendar, so
Speaker 4: they do we we mainly stay long in the sun,
Speaker 4: so we have approached them in terms of the sunscreens,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 6: And so those are the kind of brands that we
Speaker 6: we go for.
Speaker 4: So the ones that will work hand in hand with
Speaker 4: us and they'll come and just check your skin, you know,
Speaker 4: and they'll just come on board and work with us
Speaker 4: throughout the day. So those are the kind of are
Speaker 4: the kind of brands we we we've invited and the
Speaker 4: car brands as well, you know, Toyota as well has
Speaker 4: has been on board and they've worked with us, you know,
Speaker 4: and that's what we are loving and would love more
Speaker 4: brands to come on board and showcase.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's just that sometimes it's short notice. And sometimes we
Speaker 4: even invited the Mayor and the Premier, but unfortunately because
Speaker 4: of the G twenty and other things that were online,
Speaker 4: they couldn't showcase but we believe that maybe we're hoping
Speaker 4: that next time when.
Speaker 6: We reopen in January, they'll.
Speaker 4: Come through because we just want them to come and
Speaker 4: enjoy and see how we are approaching.
Speaker 6: This whole golf days and you know, and we loving.
Speaker 4: The support as well from the political aspects.
Speaker 5: So we loving it.
Speaker 6: It's just that things didn't go according to the way
Speaker 6: we planned.
Speaker 5: We planned, but God decides so and unfortunately things didn't.
Speaker 4: Go according to the way we wanted. But it's a
Speaker 4: baby steps to share the on shoe.
Speaker 5: They are baby steps.
Speaker 4: We were getting communication from the office, but at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, things didn't go.
Speaker 5: So those are the kind of brands.
Speaker 4: Those are the kind of people we want to engage with,
Speaker 4: so that when we speak of let's golf, you know
Speaker 4: that all Lorial is on board or Toyota has been
Speaker 4: with them, you know, living So those are the kind of.
Speaker 6: Sponsors we we want on board and would.
Speaker 4: Love them to come back next year obviously. Again, so yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a very strategic one, but we've been and with
Speaker 4: the relationships we've been we've felt or were building like
Speaker 4: that is helping us to even bring more sponsors on board.
Speaker 5: So we loving that.
Speaker 3: Now. I really like that because I was actually going
Speaker 3: to ask you.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, in business, the whole concept is to
Speaker 2: build relationships and to maintain them over time and to
Speaker 2: make sure that they grow to be mutually beneficial for
Speaker 2: both parties. Now, with dept in mind, I just want
Speaker 2: to find out from from your end as less call,
Speaker 2: you've attracted very very impressive and big sponsors like you've mentioned,
Speaker 2: I mean the alcohol brains that you guys have attracted
Speaker 2: to your Goddace phenomeno, the likes, THEO, THEOTA is a
Speaker 2: very big brand. Now I want to understand from your
Speaker 2: side to say, okay, moving forward, you mentioned that your
Speaker 2: calendar will start the end of January, if I'm not mistaken, right,
Speaker 2: So moving forward, how do you then ensure that the
Speaker 2: foundation of the relationships that you guys have built thus
Speaker 2: far it's still intact and then you build onto it.
Speaker 2: Are there any particular aspects that you look into that
Speaker 2: relationship to say okay, Maybe you give them feedback of
Speaker 2: how the event went, and then you just keep on
Speaker 2: teasing them throughout to say, listen, don't forget, we're still here,
Speaker 2: and then we're looking to do more of days or
Speaker 2: more events and we would like you to partner with us,
Speaker 2: And obviously on that ends as well. All these brains,
Speaker 2: there is obviously some metrics that they would use to
Speaker 2: say we would like to part now with let's go
Speaker 2: on this particular basis.
Speaker 3: Now, with all of that being said, do.
Speaker 2: You ever find find or have you ever found yourself
Speaker 2: at a point where you know what the sponsor is
Speaker 2: a perfect fit for your brand, but just the certain
Speaker 2: conditions and the very crucial conditions are not what both
Speaker 2: parties would like.
Speaker 3: And how do you then maneuver around.
Speaker 6: It with certain brands?
Speaker 4: Obviously, for one, I've got someone at BMW. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna give you an example. They couldn't sponsor as they
Speaker 4: are in the East End. They couldn't sponsor us in
Speaker 4: the West End. So those are the challenges we come
Speaker 4: across and the West the West Rand wouldn't understand or
Speaker 4: wouldn't see our vision as much as the East Rand
Speaker 4: would see us as a as a as a collective.
Speaker 4: So now it becomes a challenge because of they reject us.
Speaker 4: But we go knock elsewhere and say okay, fine from
Speaker 4: here onwards.
Speaker 5: This it's not like everybody will.
Speaker 6: Be on board with everything that you do.
Speaker 4: But whoever that is thing I always tell my friends,
Speaker 4: my close people, to say, we plan, but God decides
Speaker 4: and we choose, and He always chooses the people that
Speaker 4: he wants at your table, you know. And maybe it
Speaker 4: was not the time for those people to join, but
Speaker 4: they will see the vision later on and then come
Speaker 4: come on board. And I never saw myself working with Loreal,
Speaker 4: And now I see Nadia be like, Paul, give me this,
Speaker 4: you know, the calendar, and those are feedback I I
Speaker 4: love because of you know, to a point where we'll
Speaker 4: have coffee and love about certain things, and we became
Speaker 4: we've became friends, we've became family. So that's the kind
Speaker 4: of relationships that I'm building in life. And so if
Speaker 4: you if you don't have relationship management in life, in
Speaker 4: your life structure, then you don't have anything and you
Speaker 4: wouldn't know how to maneuver around the disappointments, the the
Speaker 4: the the disagreements and so on and so forth. So
Speaker 4: those are the things that we then and we try
Speaker 4: and go back to the drawing board and say, okay, fine,
Speaker 4: BM didn't agree on this one. How maybe if BM
Speaker 4: doesn't want to agree, let's go to push maybe, so
Speaker 4: those are the kind of we have to structure it
Speaker 4: in a different way, and yeah, maneuver around the the
Speaker 4: the disagreements and.
Speaker 6: We move forward.
Speaker 4: Hope that answers the question because I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: play around with the disappointments because of we haven't been
Speaker 4: throughout like we haven't seen that the disappointments as much
Speaker 4: as would run. Maybe next year when we go bigger,
Speaker 4: that's when we'll see how things maneuver around, how we
Speaker 4: maneuve around it.
Speaker 5: Because of as as Colney said.
Speaker 4: We trying to build up events with Liave Golf and
Speaker 4: I've got a meeting on Thursday, hoping the meeting will
Speaker 4: go well, but I'll tell you all about it as
Speaker 4: soon as I'm done meeting.
Speaker 5: And there with with the with.
Speaker 4: Them people that are meeting on Thursday, so that we
Speaker 4: are able to say, Okay, now we're knocking at the
Speaker 4: right door, and what are we doing with this one?
Speaker 4: Because of leave Golf is going to open doors for
Speaker 4: everyone that is interested in golf, So now we're trying
Speaker 4: to put our foot on the door as well. So
Speaker 4: that is going to be a big one for Let's golf.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent and I mean, if there's anything that
Speaker 2: I usually tell people. You mentioned the importance of relationships,
Speaker 2: and I believe every single relationship needs to be mutually beneficial.
Speaker 2: There needs to be a give take and it needs
Speaker 2: to be nurtured. Right now, I always I always tell
Speaker 2: people that golfers have big loving hearts, and I do
Speaker 2: standard let's Let's Golf is also giving back to the communities.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, you have partnered with a share
Speaker 2: of Hope Foundation there. Yeah, so if you can just
Speaker 2: tell us a bit more about the relationship and what
Speaker 2: it means to you guys as the founders of Let's Golf,
Speaker 2: to be able to give back to communities.
Speaker 4: Okay, with giving with giving back with this one, the
Speaker 4: last one, we were able to help one one family
Speaker 4: and it goes in spread because of the profit was
Speaker 4: not as we had hoped, but at least we were
Speaker 4: able to assist a bit with one family which was
Speaker 4: not in the in the yeah and the enery. Oh so,
Speaker 4: but now we are trying to build to say, we
Speaker 4: want to buy kids shoes, We want them to come
Speaker 4: back on board in learning golf because of now you
Speaker 4: like I grew up a proteu but go to groove
Speaker 4: people we're playing golf, and I didn't know at the time,
Speaker 4: but now I just want to bring back the kids
Speaker 4: to come play golf and.
Speaker 5: Give back to the communities.
Speaker 4: To say, whichever golf course we choose and the area
Speaker 4: around it will just go maybe give whatever sanitary pads
Speaker 4: or shoes and so on and so forth. That's the
Speaker 4: drive and the vision we have for let's golf. So
Speaker 4: with us working with you know and now the foundation,
Speaker 4: and it's more of us approaching it in giving back
Speaker 4: to the communities as well as much as we we
Speaker 4: play golf. Let's just try and give back where we can,
Speaker 4: and if not, let's try and maybe see.
Speaker 5: Them whenever we can. But let's not just promise.
Speaker 4: False hope, but work with who we can at the
Speaker 4: particular time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on percent, I really like that because you know,
Speaker 2: we were just having a quick conversation before the show started,
Speaker 2: myself employee, and we're like, you know what, the economy
Speaker 2: in golf is huge. It's just that people sometimes people
Speaker 2: do not know how to unlock it. And for you
Speaker 2: guys to be able to play a part in that
Speaker 2: economy and be able to give back to the community,
Speaker 2: I think that on its own is magic. And for
Speaker 2: other people to be able to support what you guys
Speaker 2: are doing and then say, you know what, as far
Speaker 2: as much as I don't really have the time to
Speaker 2: dedicate to perhaps act for a different particular course, I
Speaker 2: know that you guys have their intention and you've got
Speaker 2: the resources to actually act on my behalf, here's my support.
Speaker 3: I think it's very very beautiful.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: And I'd like to give shout outs as well to
Speaker 4: Kevin because he's been working the walk with us in
Speaker 4: this pace of Let's Golf, and our other partner call
Speaker 4: co founder saying, so we've been working hard in the background,
Speaker 4: and you know where people don't only see the golf
Speaker 4: days only see the beauty of it. You know there
Speaker 4: are fights and other things behind those doors. But at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, what we give back is
Speaker 4: amazing and the teamwork is amazing. And I'm grateful to
Speaker 4: be working with these gentlemen to say, okay, find they're
Speaker 4: holding my hand as a woman to say let's go.
Speaker 4: And I'm loving that because I will always say as
Speaker 4: a woman, because of I don't think most women were
Speaker 4: given the platform to be playing golf as much as
Speaker 4: we are now, you know, and with the women in
Speaker 4: golf and where now introduced me, it's amazing that we
Speaker 4: are still fixing each other's crowns. I wish we can
Speaker 4: just support each other as much as we support one
Speaker 4: another elsewhere. So we just have to walk the walk
Speaker 4: together all day every day.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And with never in mind, I just wanna quickly tease
Speaker 2: your brain a bit to say, listen, uh, Let's golf.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that it's still in its infent stages, but
Speaker 2: it's done a couple of great events as far now
Speaker 2: looking forward, what what would you say would be the
Speaker 2: ultimate goal for for for the less gov movement? For
Speaker 2: you to say, now, if if that was to happen,
Speaker 2: whatever event it is, if it was to happen, then
Speaker 2: you'd say, you know what Let's GoF is doing things?
Speaker 2: What would all be your ultimate event?
Speaker 5: The build up event was leave golf.
Speaker 4: When that one happens, you will see who Let's Golf is.
Speaker 4: You know, we are very small currently, but our vision
Speaker 4: is bigger than us, and we walk the work with
Speaker 4: God all day every day, and with the energies aligning,
Speaker 4: I believe that live Golf will open so many doors
Speaker 4: for Let's Golf, and that's the only event that I
Speaker 4: can think of at the present moment because we've got
Speaker 4: bigger plans even that. The sponsors are the brands that
Speaker 4: I spoke about or refer to any art once a
Speaker 4: part of Let's Golf. So imagine when I say, when
Speaker 4: I go to them and say Jong and Mamelan, there's
Speaker 4: this brand that wants to work with us on this.
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll.
Speaker 4: They'll they'll refuse the you know, the brand coming on board.
Speaker 6: So it's just one of those things.
Speaker 4: And Live Golf is one thing that I've been I've
Speaker 4: been looking at and I pray that God opens this door.
Speaker 2: No, definitely, I mean the only thing that we have
Speaker 2: is hope and perseverance. So for as long as Let's
Speaker 2: Golf continues doing what they're doing, I believe.
Speaker 3: That the doors will be open.
Speaker 2: Amen, Now what I usually do on my show, Right,
Speaker 2: it's a pity that Tony is not here. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe that everyone deserves what do they call them the flowers?
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm going I'm going to put you on
Speaker 2: the spot. I'm going to ask you two questions, and
Speaker 2: the questions are very simple. I believe that they are
Speaker 2: experiential questions. I mean, the first one would be what
Speaker 2: has been your highlight ever since playing golf? Right on golf,
Speaker 2: of course, what has been your highlight personally? And then
Speaker 2: the second one would be a moment that you deem
Speaker 2: to be your most mourmish moment on the golf course.
Speaker 4: You know, my highlight is playing the first eighteen whole
Speaker 4: we stout, even hesitating. I don't want to lie, and
Speaker 4: and with the brands that have been on board, that's.
Speaker 5: My highlight for twenty twenty five. I don't want to lie.
Speaker 4: And to think that we only started this year and
Speaker 4: we got so much support.
Speaker 5: That's the highlight on its own.
Speaker 4: And teaming up with the with the team I have,
Speaker 4: I don't want to lie, that's the highlight. And the
Speaker 4: momentsh moment is the mayor and the premier not showing
Speaker 4: up and the ABC and that.
Speaker 5: That was for me a momish moment.
Speaker 4: But I will take that with a pinch of salt
Speaker 4: to say, you know what, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: we plan, but he decides, and that's the moments one.
Speaker 4: And by the end of the day, because of we
Speaker 4: were looking with we're looking at some many things that
Speaker 4: were happening at the time and ournation, but it was
Speaker 4: a lot during those in October end of October, it
Speaker 4: was a lot, you know. And with the interviews and
Speaker 4: the twenty coming and the water in Joe work and
Speaker 4: all of that. So it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a challenging moment for me because I literally
Speaker 4: took a week of because of I believed I was
Speaker 4: two stress.
Speaker 5: I didn't even go to the gym, Tony, That's.
Speaker 3: How stress that was.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it was. It was a moment.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, we learned every
Speaker 4: day and we move forward.
Speaker 2: And and if anything I can say is that the
Speaker 2: most important thing is planting the seat. Like you said,
Speaker 2: hopefully with the upcoming events they'll be able to come
Speaker 2: through and show the whole support. Hopefully the atmosphere around
Speaker 2: them or the environment around them would have relaxed a
Speaker 2: bit to allow them to come and experience less golf.
Speaker 6: True, not true, I believe. I believe so.
Speaker 4: And with with at least knocking at their door, at
Speaker 4: least they know who we are.
Speaker 6: We are now, you know.
Speaker 4: And it was challenging at the time, But now Tony,
Speaker 4: we've got you.
Speaker 6: I mean no, we'll never never say him and he
Speaker 6: will never say.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: Forward we go.
Speaker 6: So that's what, that's what, that's how we look at things.
Speaker 4: As I said earlier, when you wake up, you choose
Speaker 4: positive or negative, and you go for positivity all day,
Speaker 4: regardless how how how you struggling, how far you think
Speaker 4: you can go, but you still choose positivity.
Speaker 5: So that's where I am currently.
Speaker 2: No, definitely, that's that's all we can do is to
Speaker 2: remain positive. Now, it's a pity that you know what
Speaker 2: they say, time flights when you're having a good time.
Speaker 2: So wow, it's already an hour that we've been checking.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it just when it just when I think,
Speaker 2: I think the universe is just time to send the
Speaker 2: message to say no man, this these are the one
Speaker 2: Our interviews are not enough. We need to push into
Speaker 2: the whole day interview because they're not.
Speaker 6: They're not.
Speaker 4: And thank you so much from like, from you and
Speaker 4: your team for holding my hands throughout little little you.
Speaker 6: Know, and thank you for the for the for the
Speaker 6: for the.
Speaker 4: Invite, and you know, I'm loving this whole thing because
Speaker 4: of you know, I'm just here comfortable and talking two
Speaker 4: yours even I'm looking at you you and I.
Speaker 5: Even forgot that it's an our.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know that that's where we are carried.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But before you leave, if I may ask you for
Speaker 2: a favor, because we've been talking about let's off, but
Speaker 2: I would really really like our audience as well to
Speaker 2: engage with Let's So if you can and share where
Speaker 2: they can get hold of you guys, whether it be
Speaker 2: on social media, any quantent details that they can reach
Speaker 2: out to you. I mean, potential brands could be out
Speaker 2: there to say, listen, we want to be involved with
Speaker 2: let's golf, or even individuals who want to be part
Speaker 2: of the movement perhaps if you can share the details
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 4: Okay, Currently we've got the email email yeah, yeah, yeah Sony,
Speaker 4: which is Sony h l O n I dot Machari
Speaker 4: m A t l h A r E at so
Speaker 4: way too and then g s O w E t
Speaker 4: O and then p O l O c U p
Speaker 4: dot c O dot z A so it's Tony dot
Speaker 4: Masari at soway to pollock up dot co dot j A.
Speaker 4: And then we've got an Instagram page, yeah, Let's golf,
Speaker 4: and the number if you want to call and find
Speaker 4: out more information about Let's Golf, and the number is
Speaker 4: zero seven two eight three nine seven three one four.
Speaker 6: So those are our contact details. Yeah, Let's Golf.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Awesome stuff, ladies and gentlemen. So there you've
Speaker 2: heard it. That's our founders off Let's Golf. That's a
Speaker 2: former level and Tony Matari, Tony Matari who who unfortunately
Speaker 2: had to leave us for the second half because he's
Speaker 2: still driving from golf day in Blue contain.
Speaker 3: So no, definitely.
Speaker 2: I mean it's in the way of the it's in
Speaker 2: the name of the company itself.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: So every single thing is all about golf. If it's
Speaker 2: not about golf, please do not contact Tony. Let's make
Speaker 2: sure that we talk golf because with golf so many
Speaker 2: things can have happen. We build societies, we build communities,
Speaker 2: we build businesses, we make sure that we even build ourselves.
Speaker 2: Because the nice thing about golf is that it will
Speaker 2: humble you, just what everybody will say, and then it
Speaker 2: will teach you a newer version of yourself or a
Speaker 2: more improved version of yourself, because that thing will abuse you.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, please allow
Speaker 2: me to thank former label for joining us from less
Speaker 2: Golf and we look forward to more events from less
Speaker 2: Golf and all the best with Live Golf as well.
Speaker 2: I hope that everything works out because I would really
Speaker 2: really like to see as outh African based company interacting
Speaker 2: with the likes of Live Golf is Big, Live God
Speaker 2: is Beacon. It would be great to see a local
Speaker 2: familiar face to say that now these guys have made
Speaker 2: it so, so let's keep routing for let's go off
Speaker 2: and make sure that we support golf as a whole.
Speaker 2: If you've got friends, you've got family who you'd like
Speaker 2: to introduce to the sport. Please, guys, there's so many
Speaker 2: ways to reach out to the sport itself. We are
Speaker 2: here as bots and teas, we are a podcast and
Speaker 2: we do what we have to do when it comes
Speaker 2: to God. Go on to our website, chat to us
Speaker 2: if you want let's go contact details again.
Speaker 3: You can just.
Speaker 2: Give us a shout out on your on our social
Speaker 2: media platform as well. We will share with you and
Speaker 2: if you want to be a part of this podcast,
Speaker 2: please just highlight me. I will lately lately invite you
Speaker 2: and if you want to co host with me, you
Speaker 2: are more than welcome to listen.
Speaker 3: Guys, I like talking.
Speaker 2: To people, I like dealing with people, and I want
Speaker 2: people around me. So with that being said, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: this is the one and only Tony Tone, the magician,
Speaker 2: the ball with a lot of player. I am a
Speaker 2: classic man. You know what makes me classic because tomorrow
Speaker 2: I'm not going to work. And if you're waking tomorrow
Speaker 2: you have to do something. You need to do something
Speaker 2: with your life. You can continue going to work on
Speaker 2: triesday because Wednesday we play golf.
Speaker 3: Thursday we play, Friday we play Saturday.
Speaker 5: Golf is a for my God to.
Speaker 2: Jeez, please you you need to enjoy the sport. I
Speaker 2: mean you mentioned that next week you're already going to
Speaker 2: do two different provinces with gold. I mean, what's more beautiful.
Speaker 5: No, I'm ever scared.
Speaker 4: No, No, thank you, thank you so much. A tournament
Speaker 4: and it's been a great one. I didn't feel that
Speaker 4: it's an hour because we were I think because we're
Speaker 4: talking about something that we're having fun, having fun, you
Speaker 4: should be at one of the fairways at the nineteenth hour.
Speaker 2: No, most definitely will definitely make that happen. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I always have my microphone. The only thing that I
Speaker 2: would need to do is to sneak into someone's luggage
Speaker 2: back and make sure that I escort them to the nineteenth.
Speaker 6: Amen.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and you must have yourself a
Speaker 2: lovely evening.
Speaker 6: Thank you and enjoy evening as well.
Speaker 5: All right, bye.
Speaker 2: Bye, Right, ladies and gentlemen, it is the end of
Speaker 2: our segment. As I said, if you're working on Thursday,
Speaker 2: I but if you're waking on Friday, then you definitely
Speaker 2: need to call Tony too, the magician. Let me make
Speaker 2: things happen. Let me help you structure your week in
Speaker 2: a different way so that you can continue playing golf.
Speaker 2: But I've had so much fun chatting to both Tony
Speaker 2: and from Les Golf and it's a beautiful thing that
Speaker 2: they do. And to make sure that they bring everything
Speaker 2: and everyone into the golf course, because golf is where
Speaker 2: we should all meet. So, ladies and gentlemen, Hea, this
Speaker 2: sauce a beautiful one. I'm signing out. Tony took amout