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show with doctor Zach Bush.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Zach, and what a pleasure to be here.

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I'm really glad to be with the outhercumt Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming. I've really, really really

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been looking forward to this conversation with you, man, because

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I love your work. I love what you're trying to

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do in the world and what you are doing in

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the world to help try to awaken people to a

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lot of different things, both from the scientific side, but

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you also dabble in the spiritual side as well, and

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I'm really interested to go down the rabbit hole view.

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There's multiple rabbit holes we're going to go down. But

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you are a triple is it certified, three time certified

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board a board Please tell me I'm horrible at this.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I mean in some ways it is a part

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of my past. But I got three board specialties in medicine,

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internal medicine, then entercronology, and metabolism, which is the study

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of hormones and ultimate energy production in the body with metabolism,

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and that gets into the mitochondria which live inside ourselves.

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And then the third sub especialty was kind of as

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I was exiting my seventeen years in academia, I started

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nutrition center for folks and reversing cronic disease through our

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connection to food and Mother Earth, and in that process

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was needing.

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Speaker 2: Another job and needing to make money.

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Speaker 3: So I actually here got a third subspecially in hospice

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and palliative care, and was a hospice director for four

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years doing end of life care. So that's you know,

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in some ways, it was the very beginning of my

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career birthing babies in the Philippines. I was going into

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engineering and then took a hard left turn, you know,

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after that trip, and went into medicine. So it was

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really birthing babies on the front end and then doing

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the death and you know, duel a kind.

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Speaker 2: Of process of hospice at the back.

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Speaker 3: End of my career that I think gave me the

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opportunity to have a really nique and you know, look

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into the we might call it a spiritual reality, but

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it's the energetic reality of what it means to be

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an identity, what it means to have an identity, and

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watching that come in and exit the human experience, I

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think gave me a unique perspective to start on a

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very deep, deconstructive process of changing my own mindset and

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my own concept of self. And so well, I don't

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feel like I'm helping other people towards any kind of

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spiritual awareness. I've been able to at least be transparent

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about my own journey into the loss of the frameworks

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of the stories that I had grown up being told,

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as they just weren't fitting my own life experience. You know,

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watch enough births of a child, child and you work,

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watch enough deaths of an elder, and you realize these

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these don't fit anybody's one story. There's something more beautiful,

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something more whole, happening to each one of us. And

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so I'm just on a mad pursuit of learning that

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and experiencing that my own body, because I'm pretty sure

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I can die before my body's gone, and if I

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can really die to myself thoroughly, I'm curious to see

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what births out of that.

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Speaker 1: That's beautifully said, Sir beautifully said, so, yeah, your perspective

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of starting your career birthing children's children in the Philippines,

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how many kids did you bring into the world? How

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many souls did you bring into the world?

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Speaker 3: I mean through that experience and then later in the

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obgyn world. And I thought I was going to go

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into OBI for some time, and it's hundreds, hundreds. I

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never kept track of it, I suppose, but yeah, it

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was a lot of babies coming.

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Speaker 1: In as all of those as all of those souls

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are coming in. What was the thing that you kind

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of kept seeing that you were like, this is very

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interesting because this is the birth of life. Life is

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fighting to come into this reality, to come into this simulation,

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this existence. What was the thing that caught you off

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guard when you started to consenting?

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Speaker 2: See that?

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Speaker 1: And then we'll go to the other end.

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Speaker 3: In Yeah, the level of genius that is exhibited in

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the formation of a human inside the womb of woman

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has never been measured. We've figured out the structure of atoms,

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We've dissected, you know, nearly every physical future of the world.

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Speaker 2: To sort through how things work.

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Speaker 3: Not a single scientist has even been able to put

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together a theory on how this happens, because it's frankly

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just beyond any human comprehension. How a single cell can

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begin a self differentiation process where it splits into seventy

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trillion cells, and then somehow each of those seventy trillion

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cells knows where to go in a three dimensional map

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to then differentiate into a very specific cell with a

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completely radically different shape function, you know, genomic expression.

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Speaker 2: Kidney cell can.

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Speaker 3: Be you know, one millionth of an inch within the

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border of a fiber's tissue cell. And yet they have

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they know exactly who they are, they know exactly why

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they are right where they are. And so the intricate

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scale of the tininess of the mechanisms of a human

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body and how everything knows how to become that nobody

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has a clue.

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Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not in the cell.

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Speaker 3: That information doesn't exist inside the human DNA, for example,

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there's no information.

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Speaker 2: There prints, there's no blueprint.

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Speaker 3: And so you are self organizing the womb of your

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mother into something that we might call human. And then

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it's compounded by the reality of your connection and nature

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actually shaping the body every millionth of a second. So

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every millionth of a second, the atomic structure of a

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human body dissolves and reappears, as does this table. And

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so anything solid is anything but solid. It's actually a

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momentary physical expression of light. And so when you start

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to realize, okay, somehow we are these energetic center, these

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extremely intense consentrations of light energy to become a physical matter,

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and in that extreme light energy, we have the ability

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to coordinate communication, to adhere to this greater map, this

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greater design of a beauty that is unfolding in nature.

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All of that is to say that it's beyond the

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word miracle. It's this is to see the face of

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a child coming into this world and taking its first breath.

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You are in the physical presence of the genius of

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the universe. In its totality. I don't think the universe

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has done anything more magnificent than birth life. And so

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that's a bit of the discovery that I began into

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and I could not have articulated any of that when

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I was nineteen years old.

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Speaker 2: My first experiences of birthing children.

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Speaker 3: But as a kid, you know, nineteen year old, the

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beauty of being nineteen as you think you've got everything

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figured out and the beauty thing, you know, you think

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the world is your waster and everything's go.

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Speaker 2: I'm in control here.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw that first baby come out, and

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I was like, oh no, I don't think I know anything,

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and I don't even know if I belong here on

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the planet. Was one of the experiences like this doesn't

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seem I don't feel like I deserve to even witness this.

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The power that is in a woman to do what

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she does in that process of surrendering her body to

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source to create within her is something that the male

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psyche can't really comprehend in the way in which we've

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currently been trained. And I think a lot of our

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religious and spiritual practices are a lot about that. How

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do you go on a path to radical surrender of

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your own space to let God create through it? And

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so that's some of the things that were seeded in

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my consciousness in those years in the Philippines and or

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that time in the Philippines and in the years that

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subsequently happened. I had the blessing I have seen contrast

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between these incredible group of international midwives that trusted that

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feminine power so much that as they walked into the

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room with a woman that was in labor, they immediately

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endowed her with the confidence, the capacity to do this

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miraculous thing called child labor and birth.

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Speaker 3: Contrasted with my experience within a couple of years in

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the medical system, where every woman was told that this

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was a highly risky thing and this was a pathology

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more than a miracle. And watched the difference between those

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two worlds and how women are just systematically disempowered in

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our current society and our current medical systems.

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Speaker 2: And it's not limited to the medical system.

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Speaker 3: I think women are disempowered from this miraculous capacity that

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they have within them to have a human womb is

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unbelievable in its ability to bring forth a child. But

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what I've slowly been learning is that womb space, that

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creative center, is available anybody, anytime, male, female, to create from.

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So there's an energy center deep in our core that

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we can surrender to source to create through. It's a

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really interesting possibility that our greatest work comes when we

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blind ourselves to the whole process. When we are so

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willing to turn it over to something bigger than ourselves

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that we can't even see the process. And that's basically

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what's happening. When one cell turns into seventy trillion. We

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cannot see that process. The way in which a womb

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works is to blind us to itself, basically. And so

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the woman uses progesterone to do this, and so progesterone

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is a potent immune block, and so her immune system

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cannot see what's going on there. Her neurologic system cannot

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see what's going on in there. And so to allow

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another being to form inside of you, you have to

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keep it so blanketed that you can't see it, because

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if for a moment the woman saw that thing, her

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immune system would destroy it, because the immune system would

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see it as foreign material and destroy it.

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Speaker 3: Most potent example that we have of what does it

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mean to be with God? What does it mean to

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be God? It means to surrender yourself to the processes

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of the universe and its creative force so profoundly that

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you can't even see what's going on. You can't figure

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it out, you can't go make it better. You can't

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fix this thing. And for that, I have severe concerns

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around our whole concept that's emerged around biohacking. I don't

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think it's a good idea to try to hack something

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that's that miraculous. I think we need to surrender to

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the creative force within us rather than try to micromanage

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and hack, you know, with our limited intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Right. And there seems to be this trend now among

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billionaires or very very rich men specific I haven't seen

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a woman do it yet that are coming out trying

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to basically live forever and thinking that they can hack

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themselves by taking obscene amounts of this, or obscene amounts

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of that or this kind of supplement to try to

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hack their their genome, even to hack their DNA to

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keep it going longer. It's it doesn't seem right to

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me in many ways. I'm all about Listen, you take vitamins.

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I take vitamins. I hope you, I mean, do you

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take vitamins down? You don't, So there you go, take vitamins.

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I take vitamins, but you eat probably healthy enough that

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you get every nutrition and micronutrients and all that stuff

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that you need for your microbiome. And so on, so

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we take care of ourselves. You and I are both

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twenty seven. We have aged horror the two. But I'm

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all about that. But it seems like there's this talk

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of AI going into the system. Yeah, and basically just

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constantly checking your system. You're like, oh, you're low and potassium.

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keep the system going. What do you think? What are

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large have treated the human bodies if it's a chemistry phenomenon,

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and we're not. We're a biology phenomenon. The reason it

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treats this as a chemistry problem is because chemistry is

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super simple. Sodium plus chloride, you get salt. You know,

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easily for four dollars. You can find out if your

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sodium is good, your potassium, all these things, and so

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you need more calcium or you need more magnesium. I

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out that it never works. What's happening inside the body

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with those electrolytes. Have very little to do with those electrolytes.

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your body. The reason we need the reductionists leaf systems

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of like here's what we can measure in your blood chemistry,

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or here's what we can measure in your rem sleep

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with your OI ring.

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Speaker 3: Done that because we cannot freaking figure out biology because

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it's a miracle inside of every cell. And so we

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the miraculous nature of that, that level of miracles happening

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in every single one of those cells as well, and

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so every single cell is a black box as to

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how that stuff figures itself out. And so I as

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to peer through microscopes every day. We now have these

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incredible computer aided systems. Now that what used to take

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on our microscope, we can do ninety six times seven.

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can get information is extreme, and we haven't learned anything

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more in a sense because all we keep seeing, if

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and then the ego can't handle that, and so we

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keep diminishing the miracle down to something we can measure.

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too complex. Life is actually a system of relationships, and

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something as complex as human life is a system of

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millions of species, not actual organisms, millions of species interacting.

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and euro up in fourteen quadrillion mitochondria, one point four

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quadrillion bacteria, five six trillion fungal elements in a human body,

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there's so much going on in a human body that

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to actually understand the whole of it is impossible. And

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so we try to break down the system to look

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that then correlate with life, health, disease, whatever it is.

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the real danger of doing a bread crumb thing is

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then presented as if it's the truth. And this is

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where I think we've seen, you know, those recent five

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years really take us down a deep dark hole in

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public health because we were told trust the science. As

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a scientist, that doesn't even make sense. That sentence doesn't

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make sense. There's nothing to trust in science. And like

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trusting the science makes it sound like there's a body

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of truth. Science is a process, not a bank of truth.

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truth instead of a process of understanding. And so science

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is an inherent process. It's a journey into discovery. It's

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it's a process of by which we have created the

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opportunity to explore miracles that will never be understood by

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a human mind, but will be felt every day. And

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so where I've been going the last fifteen years is

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doing less and less studies on my patients since regards

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their chemistries and their labs and their imaging and all that,

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and do more and more focus on what do you

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feel inside your body and then turn it over to them.

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Speaker 2: To rebirth themselves.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, everybody has the information inside of them that they

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used to self form in their mother's womb that never

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left you because you're still doing it right. Every millionth

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of a second, I have to remap this body and

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re manifest light into particle and put it back in

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the same order so that I look like me than

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another millionth of a second.

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Speaker 1: To hold on to the code if we're in the matrix,

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to hold on to the code that makes Zach Zach

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and Alex Alex. It's constantly remapping itself throughout the day

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and throughout our tired lifetime. It's constantly every millisecond, is

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this is happening? And then I always always like to

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ask a doctor, specifically someone like yourself, why the hell

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do we age? Because we're rebuilding our bodies every you know,

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you have a new skin every how many days. You

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have a new heart every so many days. You have

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a new brain ever, I mean some months or something

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like that. I don't know what the time.

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Speaker 2: Every seven years, every cell's turned over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so every seven years you have a brand new Zach,

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brand new out and various variations and within those seven

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years of different things. But why are we aging and

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not staying at the peak? Let's say I would love

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to be at twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, physically that would be an ideal age, not mentally yeah,

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well between twenty three and twenty nine mentally too, No, no,

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mentally like not experientially the capacity, Yeah, I wish you

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had an experience of a ninety year old and a

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twenty three year old brain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: So, but what is the science and also just what

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is your take on why we age? If you can

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explain it to in a layman way. We want to

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it's us that's whatever we want age because we see

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other people aging, so we age.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it's even deeper that I think we

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don't want to be here forever. I think we want

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a finite experience.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: The soul, which is a fractal of God, is how

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I would think of it, as a geometry that's permanent.

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: And this is what I definitely learned in the second

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book end of my career. Death is not an endpoint

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that is a massive rebirth. It is a massive reconnection.

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But I've seen so many near death experiences where people

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are going back and forth across the vele over and

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over again, and they've told me the most magnificent stories

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I mean the death near death experiences are just so lovely.

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I mean, every one of them just makes you warm

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and just like just sit back and chuckle at yourself

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that you think anything is real, that you're.

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Speaker 2: Sitting here perceiving.

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Speaker 3: And so I love near death experience for that like

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reorientation of like, oh yeah, this is all fake. Everything

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we're doing is a dream, and we wake back up

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into this bigger reality as soon as we dip a pass.

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they'll travel the cosmos, they go to a distant planet,

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they meet out their ancestors, they do all this, they

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never miss the im. Their identity is permanent, is unwavering.

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The second, you know, the millisecond they let go of

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the human conscious, there still I am. There's no gap

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between I'm Zach and I am the im that this

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is deep to me is permanent and unwavering, and every

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millionth of a second is the same.

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Speaker 2: That identity unchanging. Has.

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Speaker 3: An experience that I've heard many times is oh my gosh,

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everything is perfect. I am fully accepted, I'm connected everything,

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the cosmos or the journey is perfect. Everything is perfect.

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My human experience was just perfect. That being, why would

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you want to not just stay there, Like if everything's

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perfect all the time and you're connected everything and you

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see the light and everything's glory and you're in the.

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Speaker 2: Ocean of love.

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Speaker 3: We want a finite experience so that we can see

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the beauty that we are contest. You want to have

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the separation so that you can look back at the

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beauty of everything. And we see this in nature a lot.

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And you go watch our sunset, and the humans are

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lined up there in alle you know, we sit there

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in three hour meditation. Well, the sky goes through all

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its color changes, and then the dark sets and the

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moon comes up and the stars come out, and we're

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just in awe and we say that none of the

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other species are sitting there paying attention to any of that.

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Speaker 2: They are it.

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Speaker 3: The birds of the air are the sunset, and they

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settle into the tree because it is sunset. But it

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is sunset, the sunset isn't It is I am moment

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for them, and so there's no pondering of the colors,

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and they're not all meditating well what could happen tomorrow.

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They're fully presenced and there's no questioning of their connection.

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Everything it's this unique state of being human and being

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a finite experience where we are aging. We have this

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temporal experience of the perspectives on reality from a distance,

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and it's kind of like Archimedes, you know, saying if

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you give me a platform, I'll move the earth with

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a lever. You know, if you give me a platform

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away from nature, if you split my consciousness away from God,

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I will see it and I will be able to

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see it and feel it differently than I can when

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I'm fully connected and part of it.

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Speaker 2: And so I think we.

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Speaker 3: Are signing up probably through what makes sense to me

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is a very select and unique blessing to be picked

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for this.

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Speaker 1: Journey, and also at this time in history.

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Speaker 2: No greater time. Maybe you know this.

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Speaker 3: Every seventy thousand years, it seems humans go through this

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massive epoch shift. And we're right in the middle of

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that end of a seventy thousand year cycle in the

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beginning of the next, and we don't know if we

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hold onto these bodies in the next you know, we

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may go through a massive metaphormorphosis rather than survival of

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our current biology because of what's been cooked into our biology.

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The laste hundred years may be inescapable, we may have

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deemed ourselves to biologic extinction, but biological extinction is not

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the same as energetic extinction. What do our souls want

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to learn from that human experience and go on to do?

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And can we do that fast enough while we're still

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in the body, to transform these bodies to survive what

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we've created and really transformed the suffering and the separation

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fast enough and early enough that we can actually stay

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in play in these biologies. And so those are all

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possibilities that sit in front of us.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that's really interesting about your work, and

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you've spoken about this before is and I haven't really

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never heard anyone else put it together like this, this

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shift that's happening in humanity right now, we can all

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feel it. We've been feeling it probably since the early

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two thousands, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or the late sixties, like there was just such a

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massive awakening, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there was I think those were the seeds.

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I think those were the beginnings of the seeds.

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Speaker 3: But donning of Aquarius maybe exactly.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of weed, organic weed.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they hadn't got life, say yet.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, they had some nice clean weed back then.

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But so that was the beginning stages of it. But

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it's still even in our lifetime, the speed of things,

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you know, I remember the seventies, I remember the eighties

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and the nineties, and I started this if you look

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back in like, oh, stuff started to speed up and

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speed up. And I looked at it in my industry,

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which is the film industry. It's like we had movies

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and that was in movies and theaters forever, like that

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was thing movies were. Then this VHS thing showed up.

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That hung out for a little while about decade, fifteen years,

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Blockbuster Black, of course, Blockbuster. But then DVD showed up,

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and DVD picked up even faster, and it was it

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started to it started to go obsolete faster than the

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VHS did than Blu Ray came out. Then streaming came out,

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and then that, and that happened to all. But so

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I started seeing all the technology is speeding up. Things

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are starting to speed up. Now it feels like every

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year is ten years. I mean, every year since twenty

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twenty it has been so intense, so insane. This year

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sped up, more crazy, and but what you've been able

480
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,400
to see you said in another interview, which I thought

481
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,880
was so brilliant, is that what we've done to ourselves

482
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,640
biologically and to the earth environmentally is what is a

483
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,920
catalyst for a lot of the chaos that's happening in

484
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:58,160
socioeconomic and you know, in finance, in media, in medicine

485
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,119
and all these things. It's it's a parallel. Can you

486
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,119
kind of dive into.

487
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: That a bit. Yeah.

488
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: I think what we've gotten used to is activists running

489
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,680
around telling us how evil human behavior is, and how

490
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920
the oil companies are the problem, and mons Angele's the

491
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,160
problem and bears the problem, and Western medicine is the problem,

492
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,920
and pharmaceuticals are the problem, and vaccines are the problem,

493
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,200
and governments are the problem. The FDA is the problem,

494
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,519
CDC is the problem, the who is the problem? World

495
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:31,680
Economic Forums the problem. Davos is the problem. That's what

496
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,240
we're used to is looking outside of ourselves and coming

497
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:38,720
up with a thousand reasons as to who's an idiot,

498
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,200
who's not thinking right, who's exploiting us, who's the darkforce? Yeah,

499
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,039
and we've spent so much time being programmed to look

500
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:52,200
outside of ourselves for stories and experiences that justify the

501
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,200
way that we feel inside. At some point in the journey,

502
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,960
we don't have enough mental energy to maintain the stories

503
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480
and that ego belief that all of our problems are

504
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,359
outside of ourselves, and that's this wonderful moment that we

505
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,839
might be taking ourselves to. Is we might have had

506
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,599
to poison our entire food system and soil systems and

507
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,920
take biology on the entire planet to a metabolic utter collapse,

508
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,359
which we've done in order to see through the veil

509
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,920
in these bodies. Because the dense shield of the ego

510
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,839
that's dominated the human experiments for at least thousands of

511
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,319
years and has bred our empire horise and fall, the

512
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,039
exploitation of ecosystems, the exploitation of children and women, the

513
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:38,240
exploitation and killing of men at younger and younger ages

514
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,680
in war or otherwise. We're going to keep repeating that

515
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:50,839
pattern as we see unfolding in Ukraine, Gaza, Israel, Syria,

516
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,839
you name the place. The United States and the CIA

517
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,119
has been a part of seventy eight wars globally over

518
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,279
the last fifty years, and so we're going to keep

519
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:04,680
that going for as long as we can't see past

520
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,079
this belief system of we are separate from everything and.

521
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: Therefore we have to war for everything.

522
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 3: What can dismantle such a dense belief system? What can

523
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,000
dismantle a universal belief that we are separate from nature?

524
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,720
If you ask anybody are you separate from nature? Are

525
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,759
you really separate from Nature's nature? To avoid in your body?

526
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,400
We though sit there and be like, no, no, no,

527
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,119
I'm part of nature. But if you go read the

528
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,079
Oxford English Dictionary, it says that nature is everything in

529
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,200
the firmanent of the earth, the minerals of the plants,

530
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,240
to the animals, as opposed to humans or anything humans

531
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,039
have made. So we didn't just write ourselves out in

532
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,680
it nature. We rid ourselves into opposition with nature in

533
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,200
our definition. And that's what group think. Does you ask

534
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,960
any individual are you outside of nature? You separate from nature? No? No, no,

535
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,680
But you ask any group of people is nature for

536
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:56,519
you or against you?

537
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:58,799
Speaker 2: We go immediately to this.

538
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,759
Speaker 3: What we got to protect ourselves from germs, We got

539
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,920
to protect ourselves from macroeconomies. We got to protect ourselves

540
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,240
from the Chinese, or the Russians or the thing what like?

541
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:10,400
How is it that as soon as we put five

542
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,319
or six or ten human brains together, suddenly we are

543
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,039
outside of nature. And I believe it's because of this vibrational,

544
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:19,559
you know, kind of harmonic that we can hit together.

545
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,039
Is our egoic brain does believe we're separate, does believe

546
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:24,759
we're rejected.

547
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Therefore the ego.

548
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,279
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

549
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,160
and now back to the show.

550
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: And so you put a few of those together, and

551
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,839
suddenly we're in this alternate reality of nature against humans.

552
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,160
And in that reality, the only logical thing is I

553
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,640
need more comfort, I need more convenience, I need no

554
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,359
more protection.

555
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: For all that, I need more wealth. There's only a

556
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,880
few hours in the day.

557
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm not able to build seventy houses a week. And

558
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,559
so since I can't be productive enough to create that wealth,

559
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:05,559
and them have to create an abstract economy in which

560
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,319
I extract from distant people that I can't see. And

561
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:10,519
so I need to put a food system under slave labor.

562
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,319
I need my commodities market to be slave labor to

563
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,319
China and South Asia and all that to make my

564
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160
genes so that I can wear pants for fifteen dollars.

565
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,000
We create all these abstract economies to justify and hide

566
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:27,799
slave labor for the convenience and sense of safety, and

567
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:31,799
that sense of wellness, a sense of economic capacity that's

568
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:32,279
all fake.

569
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: And so we're doing all that.

570
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: So what would it take if world wars aren't enough

571
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,000
to wake us up and continue to iterate. I think

572
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,359
the only thing left was, let's poison ourselves to the

573
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,359
point where we don't have enough energy left to keep

574
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,599
these stories going. And so we may be taking ourselves

575
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,240
into this pattern of complete utter collapse of the biology

576
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:55,000
so that we can just for a moment, see the

577
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:59,200
truth is that we were birthed here through our own intelligence.

578
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,680
We can say it's God, but it's really you. Your

579
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,839
soul knit that thing together in your mother's womb, and

580
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,519
you are here iterating a life that's aging so that

581
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:11,599
it can see all the beauty of a world from

582
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,759
all the different perspectives. Sitting with my grandfather on a

583
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960
veranda while he smokes cigarettes to his death was a

584
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,240
different experience than sitting on the floor building legos with

585
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:28,039
my son at age two. He's got such a different

586
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,079
perspective at age two than the eighty two year old

587
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,920
grandfather who's dying of a cigarette smoking and they're both beautiful,

588
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:37,759
and so why do we age? I think it's because

589
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,160
we want to because we want to see all of

590
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,559
the beauty of the world in this finite couple breasts

591
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,599
that we call human infinite soul wants to see it

592
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,359
from every one of those perspectives.

593
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: This shift that we're going through right now, this cycle

594
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,480
that's ending, it seems that it's very similar to our

595
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,480
personal journey. It mirrors our personal journeys, our collective journeys,

596
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,559
mirroring our personal journey, which is I don't know about you,

597
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,400
but there were moments in my life where I didn't

598
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400
listen to the nudges of the universe and uh, and

599
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,559
it's sledgehammer comes. It starts as a whisper, then a nudge,

600
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,440
and then the sledgehammer comes. And we are now in

601
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:23,559
the sledgehammer portion of our collective, like we didn't listen

602
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:28,119
for years, and now we're at that place where like

603
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200
we gotta go, we gotta go to rock bottom, and

604
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,960
it might be to a rock bottom that we cannot

605
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,920
come back out of. On a on a biological, biological,

606
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,920
biological framework which just changed completely from what we know.

607
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: And that's laid out in a lot of texts that

608
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,759
you study. You know, I'm yoging on on down.

609
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,559
Speaker 3: If you look at the Judeo Christian side, or you

610
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,359
look at this perspective that would be put out there

611
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,680
by any of the lineages you've studied, it's all pointing

612
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,319
us to this, this thing of an awakening. Right, we're

613
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:03,559
going to wake up, and here's the path to wakening up.

614
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,640
And so we have a christ figure or a Yogananda

615
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,160
disappearing at very young ages, and the experience that they

616
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:17,680
left behind was a message of this truth is inherent

617
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,839
to everything. You don't have to go find it. It's

618
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,839
inside of you. You don't need a teacher, you don't

619
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,400
need a guru, you don't need I mean, this is

620
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,200
the Guru's telling us this. Stop putting me on the pedestal.

621
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,839
I'm here to tell you it's inside of you. Look inside,

622
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Look inside. We have no place else to look when

623
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,599
we completely collapse. And so when we think of an illness,

624
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,839
whether it be mental health or the flu, we end

625
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,319
up in bed. We get to these points of sickness

626
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,279
that we have branded as a bad thing so that

627
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:55,079
we can rebirth.

628
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: I believe that the body uses these.

629
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:01,119
Speaker 3: Moments of collapse to give you enough stillness so you

630
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,720
begin the birthing process again. I hit my major depression

631
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,799
in two thousand and nine twenty ten. I had to

632
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,039
go that low where I'm contemplating on a daily basis

633
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:10,960
and excess strategy to.

634
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,079
Speaker 2: Get out of my human body.

635
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,039
Speaker 3: I had to get there before I was still enough,

636
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360
because before that I was a mad machine of productivity.

637
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,440
I was working one hundred hours a week in hospitals.

638
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,519
I was raising my kids. I had started a construction

639
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:25,880
coming building houses. I was building my own house in

640
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,280
the woods. Like it turns out, you know, twenty four

641
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,719
hours time seven, that's pretty amazing. You've got like a

642
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,960
one hundred and sixty eight hours a week. Like, oh

643
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,599
my gosh, go dude, Like there's so many hours in

644
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,920
a week, Like you can pour it in like forty

645
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
hour work week. Great, I can work three jobs at once,

646
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,159
sleep for four hours. Look at how productive. That's the

647
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,400
drive that was inside of me. And it was insane.

648
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,599
It wasn't healthy. It wasn't good for my marriage, it

649
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,880
wasn't good for my kids, it wasn't good for me.

650
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,000
I had to the frenetic energy inside of me was

651
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480
was this, I think ultimately fear, guilt, shame, paradigm that

652
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,239
I wasn't enough, I wasn't doing enough, I wasn't providing enough,

653
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,440
wasn't experience enough, and I had to crash that ship

654
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,880
completely until so that I would hold still. And one

655
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,440
of those first times that I held still was at

656
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,679
the end of two thousand and nine, when I was just.

657
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: I had nothing left.

658
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: I was my research had been shut down by pharmaceutical company,

659
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,159
and seventeen years of academia, I wasn't making sense. I

660
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,119
thought I was gonna be a lifetime academission. I thought

661
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:33,800
I was gonna be the chair of the department. I thought,

662
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,039
you know then dean of the med school. Like I

663
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,000
had this beautiful forty year career that they had mapped

664
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,440
out for me. I'm like, you'll do this, and then

665
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,119
you do this, and you'll get awards every year. We'll

666
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:44,679
make sure we give you a plaque every year. And

667
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,760
so I already had a wall of plaques that were

668
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,159
just like junk like plastic things that had my name.

669
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,960
I'm like, why what is this thing? What am I

670
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,639
doing here? I couldn't figure out what I was doing here.

671
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,679
So I had to crash that thing completely, and in

672
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,119
that silence, I just started calling out to the universe, God,

673
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:03,920
divine whatever.

674
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: I couldn't even put a word.

675
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: I was just like, please, if there's a way for

676
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,840
me to be a living sacrifice, keep me alive and

677
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,239
use this body for something else. But this isn't working,

678
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,239
like this is clearly a poor use of a human

679
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,360
and genius, a human miracle put me into something else.

680
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,679
And it was just that stillness in that surrender, and

681
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,119
then my womb of a life turned back on and

682
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:28,000
I started creating stuff that I couldn't imagine just a

683
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,920
few months earlier. And so companies came through, and ideas

684
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,679
for the future came through, and the nature to start

685
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,840
birthing itself through the.

686
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,559
Speaker 2: Womb of a human.

687
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,079
Speaker 3: And I have experienced being a genitive center for a

688
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,679
long time now. Sometimes the projects go really well. Sometimes

689
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,039
a lot of times the project seemed.

690
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,039
Speaker 2: Like peter out. But they cited a lot of us

691
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:49,559
on the way.

692
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: They're all doing something in the field that I don't understand,

693
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,360
and I've stopped metricing them of like they made money

694
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,920
or they didn't make money, or they were there for

695
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,880
three years, they were there for three months, as an

696
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,199
idea never came to fru a shit, and we have

697
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,880
to stop worrying about and defining the success of our

698
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,320
ideas based on their economic impact. Is an idea coming through?

699
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,039
Let that thing burn through and see what it has.

700
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,880
And it's a thing of its own, and it's coming

701
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,119
through you, which means is probably coming through dozens of

702
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:21,239
other humans on the planet. Can you attract them to

703
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,039
you so that you suddenly have a team of twelve

704
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,159
people that are visioning this thing in rather than you

705
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,199
taking on as a personal burden of like, oh, I

706
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:28,320
had this vision, now I have to.

707
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Go do it.

708
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: But I had to crash the ship, just as you

709
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,239
were talking about with the sledgehammer fact. And I've had

710
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,719
to do it multiple times since then. And what I've

711
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,880
found is that it's much more effective for me to

712
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,519
just intentionally run into the wall every morning as soon

713
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,519
as I wake up, just be like, smash it into

714
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,239
the wall and stop for a moment and be like,

715
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,559
you know, just and for me, the smash into the

716
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:55,000
wall thing tends to be, you know, an intentional process

717
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,800
of silence. If you can bring even a small part

718
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,599
of you into silence, it becomes the all that everything

719
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,840
else will smash into so all of my busy thoughts,

720
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,000
all of my you know, drive, and it's like adrenaline

721
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:07,920
of like, let's go do it, and what's my email,

722
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,639
what's my WhatsApp?

723
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:09,199
Speaker 2: What's the things?

724
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna be crash all of that into the silence

725
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,519
for a moment and then let the day birth through

726
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,960
you again today. And it's been a lot more effective

727
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,400
way to be alive ultimately. And it's not easy because

728
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,840
it's I think, challenge the relationships and work around me,

729
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,360
in particular because I'm not a typical, you know, founder

730
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,800
CEO kind of guy. Like most people are like, I'm

731
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,639
gonna have an excess strategy in four years. I'm like,

732
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,239
I don't even know if I'm gonna be out of

733
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,800
the womb in four years. I know it's an idea that.

734
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,199
Speaker 2: It looks like it could change the world.

735
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,159
Speaker 3: Maybe it's good now, maybe it's relevant in three hundred years,

736
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,719
but I don't understand. I certainly don't have that mind

737
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719
inside of me that's like I'm gonna raise the capital

738
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,840
and do the thing and KPIs and row asm, but

739
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,880
all those acronyms and things and things, I'm like, ah,

740
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,440
so that would make a good business. But is that

741
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,519
the way that nature wants to work through me? And

742
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:07,039
I've found that no, Nature's not actually awesome, not concerned

743
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,400
about their ROAs of the idea, and so I don't

744
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,639
take any vitamins.

745
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

746
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:20,360
and now back to the show.

747
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 3: But I've been drinking dirt water for fifteen years now,

748
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:27,800
and that's what came through me was Nature revealing that

749
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,320
fossil soils had the missing link between our old biology

750
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,840
and this new disease of biology today. And so our

751
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,400
team started extracting those soil elements about fifteen years ago,

752
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,880
put those into supplements more than a dozen years ago,

753
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,679
and so we have these liquid supplements that people all

754
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:46,760
over the world are now drinking that are tying them

755
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,639
back to the original intelligence of the microbiome. And it

756
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:53,000
turns out that's the intelligence by which we coordinate life

757
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,440
within the mother's womb or within our body that has

758
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,960
to rebirth every monionth of a second. You have to

759
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,760
have wireless communication network and running to achieve that, because

760
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,159
if one cell can't talk to the other, you start

761
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,159
to fundamentally h faster, and you start to this process

762
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,000
of disease of disconnection or isolation at the cellular level.

763
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,679
Speaker 2: And so we were very blessed by a whole series.

764
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Of events to discover that the soil is making that

765
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,320
communication at work, and that are modern soils around the

766
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,440
world today that have uniformly been poisoned by chemicals that

767
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280
disrupt that communication at work. Nature has been graceful enough

768
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,639
to leave us a record of that and her fossil soils,

769
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,159
and so, sixty million years ago, before the last extinction,

770
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,679
she put rich data banks of information in this wireless

771
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:39,880
communication network into her reservoir. There that would be the

772
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,000
antidote to the life state that we're pouring into our

773
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,719
soils today. And so this makes me believe that Earth

774
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,840
is an organism, oh yeah, and that organism is far

775
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,400
more intelligent, and it is probably working in a fifth

776
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,159
dimensional environment where she's never allowed an injury to occur

777
00:40:56,199 --> 00:41:01,079
in the future that already doesn't have a solution, a

778
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:04,159
genin Avengine that already knows all of the potential stressors

779
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,039
in her own system and has built an environment in

780
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,280
which those can be ameliorated by more.

781
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Connection, Beautifully said, sir, beautifully said, I wanted to go

782
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,960
back for a second on something you talked about when

783
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,920
you were in hospice and you saw so many souls

784
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,800
leaving in those nd experiences, did you ever see or

785
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,079
have a personal like shared death experience or something like

786
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,679
that though you felt it in the room, And what

787
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,079
were some of the common things that all of them

788
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,280
said or saw as they were Because I've heard I've

789
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,800
had many other hospice professionals on the show, and then

790
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,599
also mediums and things like that, who tell me what

791
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,519
is happening during the deathbed cycle? Who comes? How many

792
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,280
days before they come? Things like that, I'm curious from

793
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,199
your point of view what you saw.

794
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of there's a lot of moments where

795
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,519
I just regret that I wasn't more aware at that

796
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,039
time than I was. But even in the state that

797
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,280
I was in where I was slowly coming up out

798
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
of my dream of the three D realm and starting

799
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:12,280
to be able to feel the multi dimensional stuff, I

800
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,760
was very very young in that process at that point

801
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,679
that I was doing the hospice work, and so I'd

802
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,000
say I was experiencing it from the perspective of a

803
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,239
non expert in death, in the sense that when you

804
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880
get a medium. In here you get somebody who's working

805
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,039
with multi dimensionals or elementals. These people have come in

806
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,880
or have developed a gift of understanding the multi dimensionals,

807
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,960
feeling it, communicating with it. That I certainly didn't have

808
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,639
that point and barely have at this point. And so

809
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,280
that's my disclaimer, is like, you're now going to listen

810
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:50,119
to the perspective of somebody who was so dominantly believing

811
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:54,199
the three dimensional reality, and so I was seeing. There's

812
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,519
a scripture actually that I think really resonates here is

813
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,159
that I was seeing through the glass darkly. It's a

814
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:05,199
scripture from Psalms, I believe, and we see through the

815
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,320
glass darkly as the scripture, and what it's describing is

816
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360
the experience of stained glass in a church, and so

817
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,719
you look through stained glass and you get a sense of, oh, yeah,

818
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,320
there's some sunshine back there, or it's nighttime, or maybe

819
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,440
there's a shadow that passes if somebody walks in front

820
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,480
of the window, but you certainly can't see any detail.

821
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
That's what it says humans are always doing. We're looking

822
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:29,880
through the glass darkly, and so we cannot actually see

823
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,360
any of the reality. And so we get this version

824
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,079
of it, and it's beautiful because it's stained glass, it's

825
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,239
spectacular and so we can see the colors and we

826
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,840
can see the beauty of it all, but we can't

827
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,000
actually see what's happening behind the glass.

828
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,199
Speaker 2: And so that's how I feel about the death. Thing is.

829
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,599
Speaker 3: I heard spectacular stories from people who suddenly we're on

830
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:53,199
the other side and come back. But the limitations of

831
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,360
my experience with that is I kept in my mind saying, oh,

832
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,840
that's on the other side of the veil and over here,

833
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,360
that's not happening. In these last ten years, I've met

834
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,679
with so many indigenous pupils and wisdom keepers and science.

835
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,880
You know, Indigenous science is the whole secret to everything.

836
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
The Kabbala is one of the oldest sciences on the earth.

837
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,840
And the Kabbala and the intelligence of the Khoi and

838
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,800
the San people of Africa, that's one hundred thousand year

839
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,119
oral history there. The intelligence of design and connectivity and

840
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:29,679
sensing into nature, the ability for remote viewing and non

841
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,880
local you know, influences of nature and back and forth

842
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,480
of the Aboriginal peoples and the Maori. They've taught me

843
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,199
what I was missing in all those near death experienced witnesses.

844
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,880
Is I kept thinking, we're having this three D experience

845
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,519
and then we can go to this other place that's

846
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:48,719
five D or seventeen D, and that's right here the

847
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,760
three That's very hard to keep that in mind. If

848
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,679
that's not something that's going to happen after death, that's

849
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,119
something that's happening right now. And so in this room

850
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:01,559
are multi dimensionals, elementals what we call them. We could

851
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,480
call them ghosts and ancestors.

852
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,079
Speaker 2: We could call them spirit guides, spirit guides, we could

853
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:06,880
call them aliens.

854
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,199
Speaker 1: We could send it masters, send masters.

855
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,639
Speaker 3: All of these stories and titles that we put on

856
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:16,519
them are real, and they are here right now in

857
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,679
these seven dimensions of reality, at least that that's sit

858
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,880
here on the planet simultaneously right now in this environment.

859
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,159
Speaker 2: And yet we're still having the experience of you and

860
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:27,280
I are alone in this room.

861
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: And so when I was experiencing near death experiences, I

862
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,880
was listening to the stories, but I wasn't feeling the reality. Well,

863
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,400
and now that I sit with my own life, I

864
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400
can feel my own death every day and I can

865
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,000
actually experience what they were telling me while I'm still

866
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,920
in my biology because I'm starting to learn how to

867
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,280
let go of the belief that I am solid and

868
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,400
realize in this moment, I can close my eyes, I

869
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,480
can go month the dimensional.

870
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: I can sense who's here. And as soon as I

871
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,199
do that, you feel it. You feel who's in the

872
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000
room with you. You.

873
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,679
Speaker 3: For some reason, we're all capable of knowing their identities,

874
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,400
like who is that?

875
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: What is that being right next to me?

876
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,159
Speaker 4: There?

877
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: And it varies like sometimes it's these five, sometimes it's

878
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,880
these three, sometimes it's this one. But I have never

879
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,599
gone into that space of who's around me and found nobody.

880
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:33,960
We are so cared for, and we are so nurtured, protected, nurtured, known,

881
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,800
We are seen at levels that we can't see ourselves,

882
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,000
and just knowing that can heal the original wound of humanity,

883
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,880
which is we are separate.

884
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: Therefore we aren't seen.

885
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: Everybody runs around here in all of our kind of

886
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,320
neo spiritualism, we run around these circles being like, well,

887
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,679
I'm unseen. I'm looking for my king that can see me,

888
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,760
and I'm gonna see. I'm a queen, so I'm gonna

889
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,800
I've seen it and heard it so much it's like,

890
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,800
really like we're all king and queens like that seems convenient.

891
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,880
Like I'm pretty sure that I'm just like a kid,

892
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,599
like my souls just like this kid.

893
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't like the king like everyone's cleat.

894
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I need to be a king like that

895
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,320
seems like a pretty lonely job. It seems like it'd

896
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,119
rather be kind of a farmer, like grow some food

897
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,159
and hang out at night. I want to I would

898
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:23,800
like to run a.

899
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,199
Speaker 2: Pub probably, like that would be kind of wra Like I.

900
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:29,519
Speaker 3: Can see some other paths other than having to be

901
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:33,280
the king all the time. And so it's this weird

902
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,559
projection that we have into that spiritual space that we

903
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:39,639
would even call it a king, Like it's like what

904
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:41,760
we're really reaching for when we say king and queen

905
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,000
that I think could really clean up this near spiritual

906
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,920
is a sovereignty. We know we are sovereign beings, and

907
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:50,880
if we need to call that king and queen for now,

908
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,760
I guess that's fine, Like who really cares? But I

909
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,800
think it would feel like a relief to me if

910
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,119
if all these women weren't looking to me to be

911
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,960
a king, and I wasn't looking to all these men

912
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,360
to check if I'm a bigger king than them, you know, like,

913
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,480
let's just put all that hierarchical regalness down and just realize,

914
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:16,360
I am sovereign. I am unchanging. I have been a mountain,

915
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,280
and I have been a star, and I have been

916
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,760
a planet, and I have been a seedling sprouting out

917
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,920
of new soil. I am a child in the womb

918
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,000
of a mother. I am the mother with a child

919
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,519
within my womb. I am I am, I am, I

920
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:35,320
am sovereign. Nothing you can do can change me. Nothing

921
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,159
I can experience can change me. But everything I experience

922
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,679
can enrich me. And so we are very clear in

923
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,239
a lot of religious texts and understandings that there is

924
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,280
no free will. And then biologically, and then let alone

925
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,119
and get into quantum physics, it's impossible that me, as

926
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,760
a single, little conscious fractal of the universe, could suddenly

927
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,719
decide to change directions as a free will agent billions

928
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
of interactions that are happening inside even just a single neuron,

929
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,360
let alone the quantum of tangled environment around me, that

930
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,440
would allow me to actually be a free agent here

931
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,880
and like decide alone that I'm going to go do something?

932
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,519
Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't you?

933
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: Though?

934
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: With that said, though, like with free I'd love to

935
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,639
dive into this a little bit. With free will, at

936
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:22,400
any moment, we can change our trajectory, our ourdea. And

937
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,159
from what I've understood through my talking to gurus and

938
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,440
mystics and mediums and so on, is that.

939
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

940
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,119
and now back to the show.

941
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,559
Speaker 1: We have free will and a free choice to kind

942
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,599
of go off, and sometimes we go off the path

943
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,159
that we're supposed to be on the blueprint if you will,

944
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,599
if you want to go down the Soule blueprint and

945
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:52,880
that stuff that we chose to like, Hey, you were

946
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,320
going to be a doctor and you're going to go

947
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,440
through all these experiences and get to where you're at.

948
00:49:56,679 --> 00:49:59,880
I came in from Florida, not from La but I

949
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
I came in from Florida to become a filmmaker, which

950
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:04,199
is like, why would you do that to me? It

951
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,239
was so impossible to get off the ground there I

952
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,440
did if. I always said, like if I was just

953
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,719
born in La, oh my god, I would have just

954
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,280
taken off right away because it would have been in

955
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,400
my system. So I was born that way. But I

956
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,920
could go astray and I have and maybe I chose,

957
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,840
maybe I perceived that I have. I opened up an

958
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,159
olive oil store once. Long story, that would you regret

959
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,320
that I regret. The experience was more difficult than almost

960
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,880
anything I've ever done prior great so difficult, yes, So

961
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,440
looking back, I wouldn't change it perfect looking back, I

962
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,159
wouldn't because it makes me. It makes me who I am, exactly,

963
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,719
it makes.

964
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: Me who I am, so how an important.

965
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,519
Speaker 1: But the point is that I could have kept going,

966
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:49,400
and I was about to continue to go if it

967
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,599
wasn't for my wife. It's like, no, we're stopping. Get

968
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:55,320
back on the right road. So I went off the

969
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,280
off the journey a little bit, but then came back.

970
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,559
And from what I've heard is the farther you go

971
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,719
off the journey, those nudges, those sledgehammers, those to the

972
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,360
point where sometimes you like get into your death experience,

973
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,280
you have to die to stop you from where you

974
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,280
were going, to get you back on the path. What

975
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,119
do you think of that theory?

976
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's true, But I think what's not

977
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,280
true is that there was a straight line that was

978
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,679
drawn there that you were supposed to stay on. No. Yeah,

979
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,039
so I think you know, I think the wandering is

980
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,039
designed right by nature.

981
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: So so I agree with you one hundred percent. From

982
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,719
what I understand from my studies is that when you're

983
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,079
doing the sole blueprint, your sole contract, there are mile

984
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,800
markers laid out. How you get to those mile markers

985
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,079
is completely up to you, but you will hit these.

986
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,199
Speaker 3: You will hit these mile markers no matter what, and

987
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,400
the wandering is necessary to make them as rich as

988
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,840
they can be.

989
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:45,199
Speaker 2: Yah and love that.

990
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I never really thought of the wandering.

991
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: It's that gand Off quote. All those that are lost

992
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,320
or not, you know, all those that wander are not lost.

993
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:54,679
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful way of looking at it.

994
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: You have to wander because there is not a straight

995
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:58,320
line in the flow of the universe.

996
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: Of course not there's straight line in nature.

997
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: There's no straight line in nature because of an expression

998
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,280
of the feminine, and the masculine is rigid straight lines

999
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,159
throughout the space time, and so the grid of the

1000
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,000
universe is is in witness to the flow through it,

1001
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,719
and so the masculine is not. We often are told

1002
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,800
that it's holding space, and that's true, but I think

1003
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,559
the downside of that is we get the misperception that

1004
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:28,880
the masculine is protecting something the masculine cannot protect. The

1005
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,639
male lion doesn't actually protect the pride. That's the females.

1006
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And so.

1007
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: The females are the ones that'll actually know how to protect,

1008
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,599
and they do it through nurture rather than through war,

1009
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,960
and they'll Lionus will kill something if it's coming to

1010
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,880
threaten her cutups, no problem. But the number of times

1011
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,480
she has to do that is zero. Really, she doesn't

1012
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,880
have to kill anything because she's the lioness and they

1013
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360
know everything else respects that reality of like, okay, Linus

1014
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,719
is there. Now, she might like growl at them, just

1015
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,440
so that's everybody can see how awesome she because that's

1016
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,599
kind of fine. Like sometimes ripple that muscle around the

1017
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,400
neck and do your little thing and flare, because if

1018
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,719
you're aligned, don't you want to do that?

1019
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: I would want to feel that. This is what it

1020
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,159
feels like. Step off bitches, yeah, I think.

1021
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,079
Speaker 3: And so we see nature posturing and we see nature

1022
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,119
doing all this thing, but nature is not really killing

1023
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,199
each other. It's the predation that we see in nature

1024
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:26,800
as a gifting economy, and one soul is giving itself

1025
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,920
up to a higher experience as it goes through as

1026
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,119
a gazelle becomes the bloodstream of a lion. It's experiencing

1027
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:37,760
stacking geometries. And I've experienced this in nature deeply. When

1028
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,639
I'm out in the ocean with this, you know, swimming

1029
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,679
alone and suddenly got surrounded by the most massive millions

1030
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:47,000
and millions of millions of sardines. For forty five minutes,

1031
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:51,480
this shoal of sardines was around me. And then the

1032
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:55,079
pelicans hit, and I had so entangled my awareness of

1033
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,519
being sardine that when these pelicans hit and we're just

1034
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,679
exploding in the water. They come into the water so

1035
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880
fast you can't actually see the pelican. You only see

1036
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,199
the explosion of bubbles that they create, and then you

1037
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,360
notice its pelicans can suddenly up above your little pelican

1038
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,440
fleet feet. They're like kind of floating around as they

1039
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,719
swallow the fish. And and so that explosion of when

1040
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,239
I figured out it was pelicans, I went through a

1041
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,960
momentary experience of like, oh, my gosh, my friends, my

1042
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,559
my sardine experience is being eaten. And I just projected

1043
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:31,400
the human you know, kind of trauma story, the prediction

1044
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:35,239
the killing of them, and in a million of those seconds,

1045
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,280
Sardines answered, and we're like, this is our elevation, this

1046
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,119
is our ascension.

1047
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:43,119
Speaker 2: We are calling this in. Don't you project that on us?

1048
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:43,400
You know?

1049
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: This is this is our ascension, This is us going

1050
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,159
into our higher selves. This is us going through the

1051
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:55,000
matrix of life. We are ascending. And so as I've

1052
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,800
gone through that, you find out years later, being with

1053
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,280
the white lions in so in Africa, the same thing

1054
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,480
understood by the Koi and the Sawn people after one

1055
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:08,400
hundred thousand years of witnessing those lions. No animal is

1056
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,480
actually killing the other. One animal is giving itself up

1057
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:13,519
to it. And there's the hunt, and there's the excitement

1058
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:17,599
of that for the lion, I suppose, and there's a kill,

1059
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:20,599
if you will, but it's not to kill. It is

1060
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,840
this gifting economy where the animal that's ready to go

1061
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:25,840
peels off from the rest of the her every time,

1062
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,599
like you see this in the videos of like Blue Earth,

1063
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:32,000
Like why did that? If the antelope had just stayed

1064
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:33,880
with the group, he wouldn't have been attacked, but he

1065
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,719
always like peels off, and then the lions go chase

1066
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,880
that one, and the rest of the herd goes off,

1067
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,159
and that one tumbles down with lions and is you know,

1068
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,119
and the lions mercifully will kill that thing to split second,

1069
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:48,239
you know. And so there's this gifting economy that's happening

1070
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,000
in all of nature, so that nature ascends. And anytime

1071
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:53,079
you put one of those keystone species in a wolf

1072
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:57,960
and yellowstone, a white lion in South Southern Africa, biodiversity explodes.

1073
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened with the.

1074
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: Soil improves, the rivers flow, more nature everywhere, more flora,

1075
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,840
more fauna next door.

1076
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: If you put a human at the.

1077
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:11,159
Speaker 3: Top of the apex, everything goes into monoculture and has destroyed.

1078
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:16,079
The soils collapse, things collapse, and we can see this

1079
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:20,079
from space and the rewilded white lion territory, and it's

1080
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:23,280
very interesting because the fence lines that then are around

1081
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,760
this rewilded territory have the same animals, same lion, same antelope,

1082
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,159
same zabra, same draft, same animals. But the keystone or

1083
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,320
the top of the species are the American hunters that

1084
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,000
go over there and kill. And when American hunters go

1085
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,280
over there and kill, you think, well, that's just like

1086
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,000
the lion killing things. The results are the radical opposite

1087
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,639
the soil goes and dies.

1088
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,079
Speaker 2: The whole system collapses.

1089
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: Because the energy of the system is one where we

1090
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,599
are no longer allowing the ascension of energy. We're driving

1091
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:57,840
the energy backed down rather than up, as a human

1092
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,360
that thinks it's separate from everything in right relationship. So

1093
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,639
we can't function as a keystone species right now. We

1094
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:07,480
are not a pathway for everything to ascend towards these

1095
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:11,440
higher orders of vibration. We collapse the vibration through our

1096
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,400
fear guilt shape. And so a hunter who's over there

1097
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,599
to shoot something that's big so he can put it

1098
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:20,320
on his wallet home to make himself feel like he's

1099
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,400
achieved something. He said he's the king and to prove

1100
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,000
to everybody's a bigger king, because oh, you shot a deer.

1101
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:27,599
I shot a freaking lion.

1102
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,079
Speaker 1: Shot an elephant.

1103
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: I shot an elephant, and it's like ludicrous. And the

1104
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,159
vibration of that fear guilt in shame that drives that

1105
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:41,159
wounded king can't help nature move upwards. And so we

1106
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:43,519
are going extinct because we stepped out of our right

1107
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:47,360
relationship as a keystone species. Nature can't flow through us

1108
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,039
right now. And this is what we see in the

1109
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:53,000
biohacking community just over it. You know, the godfather the

1110
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:56,239
biohacking community that named it yesterday and he took me

1111
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,840
straight into his kitchen, proud as a peacock, to show

1112
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,159
me his pantry of supplements.

1113
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: It is the most.

1114
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,599
Speaker 3: Unbelievable situation you've ever seen. I mean it's shelves after

1115
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:11,840
shells after shells, and bottles of white plastic bottles with

1116
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,559
you know, chemically derived nature.

1117
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you take this every day. He's like, well,

1118
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:19,800
actually only take.

1119
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: This section here, armed arm one hundred and fifty tw

1120
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,639
hundred and fifty bottles in front of him, Like, are

1121
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:27,519
you hungry anymore? He's like, no, no, I don't get

1122
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,800
much hungryculous, you know, a couple hundred capsules a day

1123
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,840
here and there. And I'm just like, that's where the

1124
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,760
king gets himself too. Is when you have so failed

1125
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,079
to trust nature that your demonstration of your power is

1126
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,519
how much extraction of nature are you controlling? Then we

1127
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:54,960
have to go extinct. Nature can't play that game. It's

1128
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,800
a dead end for nature. And so the biology is

1129
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,079
dying within us, and so all of those nutrients that

1130
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,440
are reading taken by biohackers all over the world can't

1131
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:08,360
actually ignite life. Humans are not chemistry problems, they're biology opportunities.

1132
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:12,559
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1133
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:17,480
and now back to the show.

1134
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:22,079
Speaker 3: To become a biologic opportunity, you have to step into

1135
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:25,159
right relationship with the energies that are below the surface

1136
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:28,519
of the biology, and those energies are a pathway of ascension.

1137
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean by the energies.

1138
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: The flow of life?

1139
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,159
Speaker 3: You mentioned there's no straight line in nature. What's happening

1140
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:38,239
is geometry of space. Time is holding all of these

1141
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:42,119
complex safetre geometries through which flows energy. It's energy and

1142
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:45,800
the electromagnetic field, it's energy from nuclear fission, fusion events

1143
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,199
that we call the sun energy, ch energy, electromagnetic thermal

1144
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,800
you know, from suns from everything is energy. So energy

1145
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,840
is infinite and it's invisible and it's unstructured until it

1146
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,480
starts to flow through geometries. And that geometry can create

1147
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,920
a planet, it can create an asteroid belt, it can

1148
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,480
create a black hole. And so that's the sacred geometry

1149
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:13,920
below the surface of the physical world, the biologic world,

1150
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,239
that is allowing for these stacking functions. More and more

1151
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,679
complexity within the system. It's inevitable. That's what the universe

1152
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:22,920
has been doing since its origin. We say it's fifteen

1153
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,760
billion years of the existence of the universe, or whatever

1154
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,440
that number. It keeps changing. But that fifteen billion years,

1155
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,480
if that's even a relevant concept of time, But that long,

1156
01:00:36,519 --> 01:00:39,679
long journey of thousands and thousands of millions of years,

1157
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,199
Nature is simply just upgrading the flow of energy through

1158
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,559
more and more complex geometries to create more and more

1159
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,199
complex iterations of herself. And so this is the flow

1160
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:53,880
of life. And so this is how we go through

1161
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,039
a massive extinction fifty five million years ago with reptiles

1162
01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:01,039
as the dominant species, to within a couple hundred thousand

1163
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:03,760
years we have blue whales in the oceans. We got

1164
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,719
dolphins going and then with another couple hundred thousand years

1165
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:11,199
we had wildflowers instead of ferns and palms, we get

1166
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:15,679
deciduous trees. Suddenly nature is iterating towards these higher and

1167
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,760
higher expressions, and death is the driver for the reinvention.

1168
01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:23,480
And death always breeds more biodiversity, more intelligence. And so

1169
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:26,920
what we're seeing is life is a concentration of light

1170
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:29,679
energy and something like an oak tree does a really

1171
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:32,960
good job of concentrating energy, and so an oak tree

1172
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,239
over its eighty year period will capture enormous amount of

1173
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,400
sunlight and turn it into long chain carbons that we

1174
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,599
would call it carbohydrate or a fatty acid, and put

1175
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:43,679
that down into the soil. Soil microbes are digesting that

1176
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,719
turn that into nutrients for life around it, and so

1177
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,039
that energy center that we would call an oak tree

1178
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,239
is concentrating light, which means it's an incredible generative opportunity.

1179
01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:57,079
A single celled organism like a bacteria requires maybe a

1180
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,519
thousand times more light per cubic centimeter than the sun

1181
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:02,159
can produce. Biology is the brightest thing that happens in

1182
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:05,599
the universe. It's not suns. Suns are nuclear fission and fusion.

1183
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:10,679
Life is brighter by logarithms. Multi seer life has to

1184
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,440
be a ten x improvement again of energy per cubic

1185
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,280
centimeter over single cell life, and so something like an

1186
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,840
oak tree as a multi cellar organism, one sell knows

1187
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,760
how to be bark, one cell knows how to be

1188
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,800
a root, one sell knows.

1189
01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: How to be a leaf.

1190
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: That miracle of coordination of differentiation with an oak tree

1191
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,639
lives in eighty years, then it dies. It's got maybe

1192
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:33,679
like a few dozen genes. It's a very simple organism genetically.

1193
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:37,719
If you genetically sequence that tree trunk one year after

1194
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,760
its death and it lies on the forest floor, it's

1195
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:45,119
one hundred thousand species with over a million genes. That's

1196
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,840
what life is doing. Life is generating out of every

1197
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,199
time there's a concentration of light energy and it's released

1198
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:54,760
in death. It goes through a million different new pathways

1199
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,920
of ascending order to become more complex. Right now, humans

1200
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,400
happen to be given a birthright of the opportunity to

1201
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,480
be a keystone species. And I get to see farmers

1202
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,000
starting to step back into their right relationship with nature.

1203
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:11,639
They stop spraying chemicals, they stop plowing the soil up,

1204
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,519
they start trusting the earth to do something more intelligent,

1205
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,159
and they start to surrender their entire farm to be

1206
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:20,360
the womb of Mother Earth again, and she starts bringing

1207
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,199
forth such bounty. And I've seen farmers in a single

1208
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:26,840
two year three year period be witnessed to an explosion

1209
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,679
of bio diversity on their land, and the rivers do

1210
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,360
start flowing again and everything else. I've seen farmers become wolves.

1211
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,800
I've seen farmers become white lions. In their right relationship

1212
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,199
to the earth, they become an ascending pathway for the

1213
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,920
energies of the earth around them to start to ascend again. Beautiful,

1214
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,360
you have to surrender your life that's within you and

1215
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,119
around you to the divine to create through. And if

1216
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:54,239
you will do that, then you're in right relationship. If

1217
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:56,760
you stop doing the farm, if you stop trying to

1218
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,920
produce sixty bushels of corn from peraker, if you stop

1219
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:06,639
doing life. When we do it to the nature, we

1220
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:10,400
kill it. We bring a descending spiral into a natural system,

1221
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,880
and therefore we're gonna create monocultures everywhere.

1222
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:15,199
Speaker 2: That's just in South Africa.

1223
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: You've got four million acres of monoculture trees that have

1224
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:22,119
sucked the entire water table of South Africa out of

1225
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:24,920
the ground. Is now desertifying the whole country. There's no

1226
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,400
water to drink in Cape Town because they created millions

1227
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,880
of acres of monoculture eucalyptus and pine forests that are

1228
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,920
not natural, and those trees are sucking the water table

1229
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,320
out of a whole country. That is the birth canal

1230
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,639
for the whole planet. If South Africa dies, the whole

1231
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,239
world dies in its genetic generation. And so we are

1232
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,039
that that's what it looks like to step out of

1233
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:51,360
our keystone relationship. Wow, and it's our path, this is

1234
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,679
our wander. Well are we off the track? Well, if

1235
01:04:55,719 --> 01:04:57,880
you say that we were born to be a keystone species,

1236
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,079
clearly we're off the track. We're taking our ourselves into extinction.

1237
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,280
We've had a seventy percent decline in birth rates, you know,

1238
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,039
around the world. We've got United States is on an

1239
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,719
extinction pathway, our birth rate's one point sixty one. Anything

1240
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,639
under two point one, you're you're in an extinction path.

1241
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:16,480
Every tense below two point one you take another generation off.

1242
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:19,840
Though we're a few generations out from extinction, Japan and

1243
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,760
China are already going extinct. So Asia is going extinct actively.

1244
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,000
Weve thirty million empty residences in Tokyo alone by twenty

1245
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,920
thirty five, you know, like we are disappearing as a

1246
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,239
species actively. We're too caught up in our own story

1247
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,159
of too many humans and climate change and global economies

1248
01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:41,519
and tariffs, Like we're so distracted by the chaos of

1249
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:43,960
our collapse, so we don't even realize how deep it is.

1250
01:05:44,239 --> 01:05:47,400
We don't realize that the extinction is already unfolding, and

1251
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,559
we keep thinking like, well, it's in the future, we

1252
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:52,719
might have a problem. The problem was fifty years ago.

1253
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:57,320
The collapse is now. The future is the question in question.

1254
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:01,239
And really we just have this few moments left to

1255
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,280
step into right relationship with nature. And when we say

1256
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,480
stepping into right relationship, it's coming back into that keystone species.

1257
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,400
And how do you do that. You've got to turn

1258
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,400
your backyard back over to nature. Stop with this weed

1259
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,280
spraying in the Kentucky bluegrass and the white picket fence

1260
01:06:17,239 --> 01:06:20,360
that is killing the planet. We have forty million acres

1261
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,320
of grass in the backyards of houses in the United

1262
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,239
States alone, forty million acres of Kentucky blue grass. It

1263
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,199
wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. What

1264
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,880
was there before was over a couple hundred species of

1265
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,159
grasses and deep deep savannah energies and seed banks that are.

1266
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:36,719
Speaker 2: Still under there.

1267
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: If you would just stop doing Kentucky blue grass, it

1268
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:42,599
would come back. So stop doing the grass and the

1269
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:46,199
lawn and the thing and let nature go there. And

1270
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:48,159
then you've got to rewild your own self. You've got

1271
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:50,400
to rewild your heart. You got to rewild your womb.

1272
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,039
You've got to rewild your mind. Let the weeds grow

1273
01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:55,239
up for a moment. The weeds are bringing in biodiversity.

1274
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:57,960
That then we'll remember the original seed bank and all

1275
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,199
of the riches and bounties that were you before or

1276
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,320
will come back. You will grow wild again. You can

1277
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,639
be a line. You can be the gazelle jumping through

1278
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:08,719
the forest. You can be that tree frog singing through

1279
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:10,920
the night on a tree. You can be the owl

1280
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,079
that can see in the dark. You can become all

1281
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:15,719
of that if you will allow yourself to rewild out

1282
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,880
of your own story of diminished relationship to nature, and

1283
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,800
that divorce from nature is a fake story. You never

1284
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:24,480
were dropped by nature. She is holding you and she's

1285
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,320
waiting for you to step in the right relationship to

1286
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,519
become a keystone.

1287
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:32,039
Speaker 1: Species, beautifully said Zach beautifully said. I wanted to touch

1288
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:35,079
on something you said earlier when you brought up remote viewing,

1289
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:38,920
and that's you know, when you start talking about remote

1290
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,119
viewing and psychic phenomenon, it is something that definitely goes

1291
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:48,679
against your medical training for sure. Can you I'd love

1292
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:53,159
to hear your thoughts on what you You've obviously studied this,

1293
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:55,119
you've obviously seen it, a lot of it, probably a

1294
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:56,920
lot of what we're about to talk about in the

1295
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:02,119
indigenous cultures as well. What is your take on psychic phenomenon,

1296
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:05,880
on mediumship, on those kind of things. I'm just curious

1297
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:10,239
from a scientific but you're a scientifically trained person, but

1298
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:14,679
you're obviously very deep in the spiritual and esoteric as well.

1299
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this story of in Judeo Christian literature that

1300
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:29,199
after the resurrection, Yeshua appears into this group of disciples

1301
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,640
and the disciples fall on their feet or fall on

1302
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,279
their knees and are obviously struck dumb with this possibility

1303
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:39,199
that this human has come back from the grave and

1304
01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:43,159
they're having this experience and immediately there's this beautiful, you.

1305
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,239
Speaker 2: Know, experience and trust.

1306
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: But there's one of them that has to come and

1307
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,840
inspect the wounds in his wrists to make sure it's

1308
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:52,279
physically real, and he wants to put his finger in

1309
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:52,680
the wound.

1310
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:54,039
Speaker 2: That's me.

1311
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 3: I have a very hard time trusting something I haven't

1312
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,840
put my finger in, and I am sad about that

1313
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:03,039
because the reason that is is because I don't know

1314
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:05,279
how to feel my body. Well, I don't know how

1315
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,920
to feel the truth as well as I should. And

1316
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,840
so because of that, over my lifetime, I've really needed

1317
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,680
to put my finger in the wound of the biology

1318
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,960
to say, Okay, it is real, it's there.

1319
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,520
Speaker 2: I can't. And so somebody tells me their spiritual belief

1320
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,920
system or whatever. I'm like, Okay, let me check that.

1321
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go stick my finger in the wounds, and

1322
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,000
I'm gonna stick my finger everywhere until I figure out

1323
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,039
if that fits the reality that I'm living in. And

1324
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:32,199
so the medium thing I didn't believe at all, and

1325
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:35,119
I thought it was just a distraction to the truth

1326
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,840
for much of my early life. And then I started

1327
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,760
into this hospice work.

1328
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1329
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,079
and now back to the show.

1330
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: And it was just happening too often that these people

1331
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,600
that were just recently departed were coming back to talk

1332
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,399
to their ancestors, to the people that were still living.

1333
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,600
And so it was starting to be like a daily

1334
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,199
or weekly thing, whereas like, Okay, I got to address

1335
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:10,439
this situation, and I need to stick my finger in

1336
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,600
this reality and like feel this thing. And so I

1337
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,600
started you know, talking to mediums with more curiosity and

1338
01:10:17,079 --> 01:10:19,960
all of this because in particular with what happened with

1339
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,399
a girl that died in my clinic. She died at

1340
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,520
age twelve, and she had a horrible loss use star coma,

1341
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,439
which is a tumor that's now become very common in children.

1342
01:10:31,079 --> 01:10:33,119
When I started my medical training is early in the

1343
01:10:33,119 --> 01:10:36,039
early nineteen nineties, this did not happen in children, but

1344
01:10:36,279 --> 01:10:40,680
today it's unfortunately become extremely common. It used to be

1345
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,479
a cancer that we'd see in eighty year olds, but

1346
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,960
now our two year olds are somehow aging so fast

1347
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,439
due to our kind of collective biologic stress that they're

1348
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,359
exhibiting these cancers that didn't used to happen in children.

1349
01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:56,720
She died at age twelve, and it was a super intimate,

1350
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,760
you know, experience with her and her family and that

1351
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,680
last year because she was exactly the same age as

1352
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,720
my daughter and had the same name as my daughter.

1353
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:06,800
And so I had this journey of me as a

1354
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,359
father trying to imagine what you know, so I didn't

1355
01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:14,600
have to imagine. I was watching the experience of watching

1356
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,920
parents die with the same experience that I was having

1357
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,479
as a parent, And so it just made it very,

1358
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:24,319
very vivid and in living color, vivid experience. I was

1359
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:29,399
walking into that death experience with those parents, and that

1360
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,840
young woman never wavered like she was so not once

1361
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,520
did she show us any fear of guilt, shame, any confusion.

1362
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,479
She knew she wasn't off her path, like she knew

1363
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,920
she had hit the right note, you know, and her departure,

1364
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:49,720
you know, And within you know, weeks of leaving, she

1365
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,239
reached through a medium that was out in California that

1366
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:55,319
didn't know the family, didn't know, anybody didn't nobody had

1367
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:58,760
ever known this medium. But the child starts speaking through

1368
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,439
this thing. The medium calls the mother and being like,

1369
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,439
your daughter just told me to reach out to you,

1370
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,600
and she's trying to communicate with you. And so then

1371
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,479
I went on a two year journey with that medium

1372
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,880
in that family, and that was me sticking my finger

1373
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,279
in the wound and really feeling the physical reality of

1374
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,560
being on the other side of the.

1375
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,039
Speaker 2: Veil, communicating directly with it.

1376
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:23,279
Speaker 3: And her mother and I were both in such doubt

1377
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:26,720
that this was really happening, that we really pushed Alyssa

1378
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,680
to show us for sure we might be Is this

1379
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,600
a trick? You know, we were like really bringing a

1380
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,000
lot of doubt and really fear, guilt, shame to the equation,

1381
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,760
and Alyssa just kept reaching through, kept reaching through, kept

1382
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:44,279
reaching through and showing us beyond a shadow of doubt,

1383
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:47,760
that she's right there, present, and she is speaking to us,

1384
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,600
and she can see us in the moment. She can

1385
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,640
see what color our shirts were, she could see the

1386
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,880
patterns that were on her mother's shirt and see the

1387
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,600
Disney character that was on the shirt. Like so specific

1388
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,039
and so is those times that shattered my doubt, that

1389
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:06,199
shattered my and as I feel into the reality around

1390
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:11,119
us now, it's such a blessing that there is no end.

1391
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:13,239
Speaker 2: Death is not an end.

1392
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: We all step into our right relationship with the divine

1393
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,439
those last couple of breaths, and we look back on

1394
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,640
the wandering path of a life and be like, sweet,

1395
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,439
I hit every single one of the noes that a

1396
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,039
universe had me designed for. The wandering is perfect, perfect

1397
01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:30,960
because I experienced and then transmuted pain and suffering through

1398
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,439
each of those because I became human and the human

1399
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,399
heart is uniquely equipped to transmute suffering into joy, pain

1400
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,159
and loss into unconditional love. And I did that through

1401
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:43,199
my journey, and if I haven't, if I didn't have

1402
01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:45,800
the wandering path, I wouldn't have been able to heal

1403
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,680
so much. And I want to become an ascendant pathway

1404
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,039
for physics and energy to flow through. I wouldn't have

1405
01:13:53,079 --> 01:13:55,159
been alive if I had just done it. Come in

1406
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,479
and try to do a straight line. Nature doesn't do

1407
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,119
the straight line. Energy is in flow. The Olive Oil

1408
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,720
Company was absolutely the necessary thing to get you to

1409
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,640
this point for reasons that you and I could never.

1410
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: Figure it out.

1411
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: We have no idea, but it's impossible that you got

1412
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,560
off the road. You've always been on the perfect path

1413
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,239
because your path is actually the amalgamation of all of

1414
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:18,600
life ascending. You've got trillions of microbes that are speaking

1415
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,039
directly into your neurologic system to create a thought that's

1416
01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:24,199
not a human thought you're having, that is an ecosystem

1417
01:14:24,279 --> 01:14:27,319
thinking through you. We now know that there's billions of

1418
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:30,479
neurons that reach past the gut lining to communicate directly

1419
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,479
with the bacteria in fung guy in your gut lining.

1420
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,000
And we now know that there's no generative center of

1421
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:38,680
information in the brain. It's a central processing unit it's

1422
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,880
a CPU chip, just like sits in my phone. My

1423
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,439
phone will sit there for eons if you let it,

1424
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,520
and you keep it charged and everything else. It will

1425
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:51,359
never write a text message, It will never do anything.

1426
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,800
It will just sit there until somebody's fingers type on

1427
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,520
the keyboard. The brain can't come up with an idea.

1428
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,359
The brain will just sit there until somebody types some

1429
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,000
information into the keyboard. And the fingers on the keyboard

1430
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:09,520
of the human biology are not human. They are microbes.

1431
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:15,800
Microbes in their constant iteration of life and their constant

1432
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,840
interconnectedness or typing information into your neurology and your experiences.

1433
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,039
Having a human thought, but it can't be human because

1434
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,600
you aren't the fingers on the keyboard. And so when

1435
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,039
you think about do humans have free will, we can't

1436
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:34,000
even have a free thought, let alone take action on

1437
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:37,640
that thought. That wouldn't be somehow the amalgamation of the

1438
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,079
intelligence and the creativity of all of nature within us.

1439
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: We were talking before before we came on about ancestral

1440
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:50,720
trauma that we have been going through and specifically these

1441
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,359
last hundred years. We were talking about the Civil War,

1442
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,079
World War One, and World War Two all happened within

1443
01:15:57,159 --> 01:16:01,399
a seventy year period that's heard of in the history

1444
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,640
of humanity. I mean there's been wars.

1445
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,159
Speaker 3: Now, the scale of those wars and that pack together

1446
01:16:06,399 --> 01:16:07,680
never happened, never happened.

1447
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: And then also during that seventy year period, we went

1448
01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:16,960
from horse and buggies, you know, to ai where we

1449
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,439
are now. Like it's been so fast even in our lifetime.

1450
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 2: It's so I mean.

1451
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: The seventies a lot different than it is today and

1452
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,039
that's fifty years ago. Yeah, it's not a lot in

1453
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:30,520
the scope of humanity's times. Split second, it's a split second,

1454
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,239
So everything's speeding up so much. But as far as

1455
01:16:33,279 --> 01:16:37,000
the trauma that we went through these let's just say

1456
01:16:37,039 --> 01:16:40,680
it from the Civil War to now, but specifically those

1457
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,760
three wars, because we've had a few since then, what

1458
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,439
happened to our generations that felt those and what is

1459
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,800
how is that kind of rippling throughout history or throughout

1460
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:54,439
throughout history to where we are right now.

1461
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,520
Speaker 3: So there's two levels of that biologically, with those collective

1462
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,560
traumas of put into motion in our extinction through the

1463
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,439
biology of trauma and the way in which it's stored

1464
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,079
in DNA, and the parallel path to that I would

1465
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:14,479
say is a path of ascension where it would have

1466
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,800
been impossible to generate the level of intelligence and creativity

1467
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,760
that this Earth has produced in the last one hundred

1468
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:25,159
years without all of the death. What happens when a

1469
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:29,079
human crosses the veil, when the soul lets go of

1470
01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:31,159
the human crosses the veil is better way of saying that,

1471
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:34,079
So what happens there? Well, the near death experiences are

1472
01:17:34,079 --> 01:17:38,399
giving us a sense of that your experiential awareness of

1473
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,159
the relationship of humans to that nature increases. And if

1474
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,119
there is no end, and you immediately as a soul,

1475
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:48,720
can reconnect to biology, and you can become the white lion,

1476
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,680
or you can become the carrot, or you can become

1477
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:57,319
the Earth. The collective energy of souls being concentrated on

1478
01:17:57,319 --> 01:17:59,439
this planet and dying and living and dying and living

1479
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,359
and dying living at this rate, I kind of doubt

1480
01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,079
that the same eight billion people that are here today

1481
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:06,680
are the same souls that are here a couple of

1482
01:18:07,039 --> 01:18:11,199
years from now. But there's probably some iteration in there.

1483
01:18:11,279 --> 01:18:13,920
And whatever the souls are generating here is remembered in

1484
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,399
our water, it's remembered in the quantum entangled Earth. Itself,

1485
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,560
and so the faster we pump lives through here, it's

1486
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,479
a metabolic cycle. There's a metabolism too in the intelligence

1487
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,399
and consciouness of the universe, as death, life, death, life, death,

1488
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:32,119
life happens, so on the energetic path, all of these wars,

1489
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:34,479
all of the human birth and death and birth and death,

1490
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,560
is driving the speeding up of the metabolic intelligence of

1491
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,840
this planet and the species that are on it. I

1492
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,239
don't think we would have had cell phones and AI

1493
01:18:44,359 --> 01:18:48,680
systems if we hadn't had three massive wars. I think

1494
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,199
we needed the level of death to create them, the

1495
01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:55,000
level of birth of not just human flesh, but human ideas,

1496
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:59,479
human consciousness. I am shocked at the social consciousness that

1497
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,760
shifted from my grandfather's generation to my daughter and then

1498
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:08,239
to my grandson. You know, and those short few generations.

1499
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,960
My grandson is able to be him. He's able to

1500
01:19:12,039 --> 01:19:15,800
express exactly who he is. His generation has let go

1501
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,399
of the need to express what gender they are, what

1502
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,600
sexuality they are. My generation spend all kinds of time

1503
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,399
figuring out like, well we're allowed to be this, and

1504
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:26,319
well we're not that.

1505
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: What were this? And so we were so.

1506
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 3: Busy characterizing things and making everything separate and so eager

1507
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,600
to create the alphabet soup of sexual identity and gender

1508
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,439
idenny like we did that as our generation.

1509
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1510
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,800
And now back to the show.

1511
01:19:49,039 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 3: My children's generation came along and they were taught that

1512
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,119
of like, well, you gonna be free to be LGBTQ, and.

1513
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,239
Speaker 2: They kind of tried that out.

1514
01:19:57,399 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 3: And I think that generation is now like like all

1515
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,600
the things between an L and a B, Like why

1516
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,760
are we trying to like get it down to five letters?

1517
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,760
Like maybe just maybe we just have eight billion souls

1518
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,039
that are expressing themselves through biology right now. And then

1519
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:14,680
my grandson's generation, and my grandson just started college and

1520
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,840
I'm watching him churning away with his generation is there.

1521
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,479
They didn't get exposed in the same way to the

1522
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,000
alphabet soup that my kid's generation, and they've been welcomed

1523
01:20:24,039 --> 01:20:27,039
into this much more fluid experience of just express yourself.

1524
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,479
And there's some great challenges in that because without the framework,

1525
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,399
the human mind can freak out, and so rates of depression, anxiety,

1526
01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:35,159
and all this can be quite high. I think when

1527
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:38,680
you're losing the framework of the egoic mind telling you

1528
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,720
you fit into this little tribe of here, so you're accepted.

1529
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,199
When there's no more you know, little tribes to fit

1530
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:48,359
into and there's starting to be a human experience altogether.

1531
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,680
That's nerve wracking because you don't have the comfort of

1532
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,840
your little click, you know.

1533
01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: Is that because you're looking for for things outside of yourself.

1534
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,600
You're looking for the answers out there side of yourself,

1535
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,079
You're looking for the framework outside of yourself. But the

1536
01:21:03,119 --> 01:21:06,439
gurus and the saints and the ascended masters and the

1537
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,520
walking masters understand that that's all within you. And that's

1538
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,079
why they are unwaivered.

1539
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Like they don't stop looking outside yourself for your tribe. Yeah,

1540
01:21:15,119 --> 01:21:16,119
the tribes inside you.

1541
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: We're all part of the.

1542
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're all sovereign, you know. So that's and

1543
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,920
I think that's the unique thing that we lose when

1544
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:30,119
we start to think about you know, unity, consciousness and

1545
01:21:30,279 --> 01:21:31,199
one world government.

1546
01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:33,239
Speaker 2: And we got to.

1547
01:21:33,279 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 3: Hold on to the duality of that, and that the

1548
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,840
individual sovereignty of a soul is real. It is a

1549
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,600
practical of the divine that will never change. And it's

1550
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,720
not the same as the other souls. It's part of

1551
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,239
the same thing, but you know it's part of the

1552
01:21:47,279 --> 01:21:50,039
same hole, but it as a fractal of it carries

1553
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:53,520
its unique signature that is known as the biology. My

1554
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,319
biology is different than yours because of the quantum entanglement

1555
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:59,239
with my soul. I can take the blood out of

1556
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,920
an idea, took a twin and put it into the other,

1557
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,000
and the identical twin will react to that a melian

1558
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,000
and kill the blood. The identity is not in the genes.

1559
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:11,039
Identical twins are different because they've been imprinted with a

1560
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:13,680
different identity. And it's seen that the biology is different.

1561
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,920
And see, even the biology can sense the difference of

1562
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,000
the energy field rather than the genetics. I find that

1563
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:24,640
quite amazing, Like, wow, our immune system, these little dumb

1564
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,640
antibiotes that just float around can sense the difference between

1565
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,119
that soul and that soul.

1566
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,399
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

1567
01:22:31,039 --> 01:22:38,079
Speaker 1: And why do you think that the medical field, biology, academia,

1568
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:43,119
they can't wrap their head around the soul. They can't

1569
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:45,479
because they can't stick their finger in it. As you

1570
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:50,880
so lovely example was that they sense that like, no,

1571
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,479
if it's not this, it doesn't exist. And then we

1572
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,560
find out through quantum physics and other things well this

1573
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,239
doesn't exist either. Now it's actually not the solid it's

1574
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:06,359
a perception. It's a perception, which then your head starts

1575
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:08,720
to hurt and you start thinking about these things.

1576
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 2: And I think that's the answer.

1577
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: It just hurts your head to try to really put

1578
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,800
the human human brain and responsibility of understanding the universes

1579
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,119
a lot.

1580
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so then I.

1581
01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 3: Don't think we can think our way and understanding the universe,

1582
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,439
but we can feel our way there, it's beautifully said.

1583
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

1584
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: And the more I go down these roads and the

1585
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,199
more I do my own studies into this, in all

1586
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:35,680
of these fields, feeling is becoming much more important to

1587
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:36,680
me than.

1588
01:23:38,079 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 2: Mental and trying to understanding. Yeah, chasing after the wind.

1589
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, Yogananda said us so beautifully. He

1590
01:23:46,279 --> 01:23:50,319
really never read books. He experienced everything. He tapped in

1591
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:56,479
directly to source. He tapped into the energy field of

1592
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,199
Ababa Gee or these kind of they tap in and

1593
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:02,079
they they It's like when a book is so limiting,

1594
01:24:02,319 --> 01:24:06,039
when you could tap into the internet, let's say the

1595
01:24:06,039 --> 01:24:09,239
cloud is the universe, and being able to type into

1596
01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:13,880
that source energy is so much more potent. And I

1597
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,920
feel that more and more now as I'm starting to

1598
01:24:16,359 --> 01:24:18,840
as I started to meditate more and go deeper into

1599
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,000
my meditations, into my own spiritual practices, I'm starting to

1600
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,520
feel things and understand things that I never understood before.

1601
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,439
Like you and I have a common friend, Robert Edward Grant,

1602
01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:34,760
who's a lovely man, but he can go off like

1603
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,159
hard and you just trying to hold on tight for

1604
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:41,039
the for the ride. But when I'm talking to Robert,

1605
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,840
we have a conversation and I'm getting what he's taught.

1606
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,199
And I've said this to them, I go, It's amazing

1607
01:24:46,279 --> 01:24:49,560
to me that I'm talking to a polymath and I

1608
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,119
failed math in high school. But yet I'm able to

1609
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:57,000
talk to you about these complex ideas sitting down with

1610
01:24:57,039 --> 01:25:00,239
you today, just I am understanding what you're saying, but

1611
01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:03,640
I didn't read that anywhere I feel it. Does that

1612
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:04,239
make sense?

1613
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1614
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,399
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what I hope everybody walks away

1615
01:25:07,399 --> 01:25:09,479
from as that's the genius of children, as they are

1616
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,239
feeling the reality. And so when you're a four year

1617
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:14,760
old is staring out the window and a car ride

1618
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,800
in the back and suddenly says, Mom, do you think

1619
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,279
it's possible that we're just inside the body of God.

1620
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,399
What as a parent, You're just like what excuse me?

1621
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,640
Because I was just thinking about, like, you know, lunch,

1622
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:34,199
Like what what are you doing in the backseat, Like

1623
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,760
what's going on? Like it just like I was just

1624
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,760
frustrated about my bank account and are we Is it

1625
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,000
possible that we're in the body of God? Yeah, that's

1626
01:25:43,039 --> 01:25:48,800
that's actually possible. Thank you for reorienting me. So that's

1627
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:53,039
where we come from, is complete connectivity, and the wisdom

1628
01:25:53,079 --> 01:25:56,000
is at our fingertips. It's it's everywhere, and so we

1629
01:25:56,039 --> 01:26:00,520
are dialed into that internet of everything at every and

1630
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,960
so it's a learned capacity to forget everything. And so

1631
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,359
our education system is what we created for that. And

1632
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,079
so we created an education system to train people out

1633
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:14,039
of their knowingness. Yes, and it starts at five years old,

1634
01:26:14,319 --> 01:26:17,079
and now, unfortunately it starts at two. People throw their

1635
01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:20,039
kids into preschools at age two, and they're very pleased

1636
01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:22,399
when their kid can like do one plus one equals to,

1637
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880
which isn't even true, is what Robert Grant will tell you.

1638
01:26:25,319 --> 01:26:30,079
And so yeah, it's so they learn the wrong stuff

1639
01:26:31,279 --> 01:26:36,840
to cover up the right stuff and break their relationship

1640
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,880
to the knowledge field. Because there's no control of sovereign

1641
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,600
beings that know everything, and so systems that see themselves

1642
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,399
separate from nature that need to consolidate wealth in the

1643
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,520
hopes of staving off some dangerous future where they don't

1644
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,560
have enough, are going to have to train their train

1645
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,880
all of the peoples to be programmed out of the

1646
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,399
knowingness and start to rely on education.

1647
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: My children are some of my great teachers. Annoying that

1648
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:13,279
where you are, Like I said, I'm twenty seven, but

1649
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,640
it's fascinating to watch them interact with the world and

1650
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,880
they'll look at certain things and they'll say things. The

1651
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,800
other day they were we saw some friends from California

1652
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:30,840
and they were coming in very La, very Hollywood, very

1653
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,720
that energy. I'm sure you understand what I mean. And

1654
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,199
they they I mean, they grew up in la and

1655
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:40,600
they've been here for four years. So but after they left,

1656
01:27:41,039 --> 01:27:43,640
they turned to us and go, yeah, that was a lot.

1657
01:27:44,079 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1658
01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:49,199
Speaker 1: I was like, what did you say. Yeah, they were

1659
01:27:49,279 --> 01:27:53,840
a lot and they do it like this, like the energy.

1660
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,399
There's a lot coming in. There was a lot coming in.

1661
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,760
I was like wow. Like you know, when I was

1662
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:04,279
that age, I was watching transform Yeah, you know, always

1663
01:28:04,359 --> 01:28:06,840
you know always, you know, just like like you're like, oh.

1664
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,079
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.

1665
01:28:09,079 --> 01:28:13,039
Speaker 1: I wasn't having these kind of deep understandings of the world.

1666
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:17,600
There this new generation coming in. They're just programmed differently

1667
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,000
than we were at the factory. I think they have

1668
01:28:20,039 --> 01:28:23,119
a different understanding of everything, and they're not falling for

1669
01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:24,560
the same stuff that you and I felt for.

1670
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you agree, Yeah?

1671
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's and this is the beauty of

1672
01:28:29,279 --> 01:28:31,680
this failure of biology, you know. And so as we

1673
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,600
dial our metabolic capacity down, because we're burning out our soils,

1674
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,600
burning out our food system of nutrient density, we're literally

1675
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,640
dimming the lights on humanity. As a function of dimming

1676
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,640
the planet's metabolic capacity. So when we're talking about four

1677
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,439
billion pounds of life esstates poured into our soils every year,

1678
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,199
what we're talking about is diminishing the life force of

1679
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:52,960
the planet. And so four billion pounds of a herb

1680
01:28:53,079 --> 01:28:55,680
side are being poured in And I go every two

1681
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,720
years to the EPA every time they have an open

1682
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,000
hearing and show them all the science of the fact

1683
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:03,319
that this chemical that you keep allowing in your country

1684
01:29:03,359 --> 01:29:07,800
to use a billions of pounds is literally diminishing the

1685
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,199
life force within every child that will ever be born again.

1686
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: They don't change. So I've given up on that.

1687
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 3: Like I'll keep talking because I feel compelled to, but

1688
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,279
I've given up on the expectation that something's going to change.

1689
01:29:20,359 --> 01:29:21,279
Speaker 2: And so all we can.

1690
01:29:21,159 --> 01:29:23,359
Speaker 3: Do is speak our truth, speak with the beauty that

1691
01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:26,239
we see, tell people what we've struck our finger antition

1692
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,000
know is real the moment, and then say this is the.

1693
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,520
Speaker 2: Case, this is what my lived experience is.

1694
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,079
Speaker 3: All pointed back to this reality that we are taking

1695
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:39,159
ourselves to our knees biologically so that.

1696
01:29:39,159 --> 01:29:40,319
Speaker 2: We think more like children.

1697
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 3: Because if I don't have the energy to maintain the

1698
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,359
bs of an education system that traded me to know

1699
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:47,560
almost nothing.

1700
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,119
Speaker 2: And then give me lots of awards for how good

1701
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:53,359
I wasn't forgetting everything.

1702
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,039
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1703
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:02,920
and now back to the show.

1704
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Then maybe we're on our right path.

1705
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Maybe we just had to poison ourselves so severely that

1706
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,479
we can no longer make up the stories.

1707
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: Is that why does Europe have that? Is that allowed

1708
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,000
in Europe? That pest aside?

1709
01:30:20,199 --> 01:30:22,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's everywhere. Every continent is using it. The

1710
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,279
first country that will actually be free of it will

1711
01:30:25,319 --> 01:30:27,760
be Russia. Russia will be the very first or completely

1712
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,960
organic food system could be this year.

1713
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Even they're really on track. They're doing great.

1714
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: Really, that's fascinating. Yeah, they do think that that Russia

1715
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:37,560
is not the most forward thinking.

1716
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,279
Speaker 3: Russia is always the most forward thinking. Really, they're the

1717
01:30:41,279 --> 01:30:45,079
only generational thinking country. I would put Russia at the

1718
01:30:45,079 --> 01:30:49,520
forefront of thinking longitudinally. They think long term. America is

1719
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,439
making decisions around four month decisions on our economy. Russia

1720
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,880
is thinking four hundred years from now. The other countries

1721
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,600
that are doing that is Saudi Arabia and Middle East.

1722
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: They are very rooted in family and ancestral patterns.

1723
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 3: South America I don't think has to identify with eye

1724
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,920
of those, but kind of inherently does this, you know

1725
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,159
where it starts to understand generational impact and all of this.

1726
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:19,640
South America is really suffering at a deep level of

1727
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,279
relationship to North America. And so North America is draining

1728
01:31:23,319 --> 01:31:26,600
the soul out of you know, our entire hemisphere very quickly,

1729
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,960
I think, and so I think South America suffers a

1730
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,880
deeper crisis of that remembrance of the multi generational thinking

1731
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,439
and long term thinking in their policies. But the Middle

1732
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:41,119
East in Russia, you know, right up until the war,

1733
01:31:41,239 --> 01:31:43,600
Ukraine was the best food system in the world. They

1734
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,720
were growing almost entirely organic. You know, we Europe had

1735
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:52,119
decided to stop exporting or stop importing North America grains.

1736
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:55,399
Germany was the first to outlaw the importation of grains

1737
01:31:55,399 --> 01:31:58,319
and other legomes from North America because they realized that

1738
01:31:58,359 --> 01:32:00,760
their diseases were going up every time they boarded our food,

1739
01:32:01,359 --> 01:32:03,279
and so they ban that, and we're only getting their

1740
01:32:03,279 --> 01:32:07,680
food from Ukraine. I think that is too surprising if

1741
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,279
the Ukraine War was started in part to try to

1742
01:32:10,319 --> 01:32:16,159
disrupt the economic advantage there. Black Rock and other US

1743
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:18,039
companies have gone in to buy up all the farmland

1744
01:32:18,079 --> 01:32:22,439
of the Ukraine now and are implementing chemical agriculture. And

1745
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,960
so there's a pattern that we can see around when

1746
01:32:26,319 --> 01:32:28,840
the lion is no longer a king, and the lion

1747
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,319
is just killing things for the fear that they're going

1748
01:32:32,359 --> 01:32:35,119
to run out. So we have an economy and an

1749
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:37,520
empire that's failing in the United States that makes us

1750
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,479
very dangerous, and we've been increasingly dangerous over the last

1751
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,520
sixty years as we've come to terms with the fact

1752
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,239
that we probably are destroying ourselves. And so that rabbit

1753
01:32:46,279 --> 01:32:48,319
animal and they's stuck in the corner that has no

1754
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:50,439
way out, is going to be more and more dangerous.

1755
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,439
And that's where the rabbit animal in the cage right now.

1756
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,560
That's why our politics look like they do. Is the

1757
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,439
last thing we have to do is lash out with

1758
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,760
tariffs and you know, put militaries on the borders and

1759
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,640
do all this stuff like That's not none of those

1760
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,479
signs are healthy.

1761
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: Like that.

1762
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: That is the sign of an ailing and dying society.

1763
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,079
And we've seen it with every empire that's died has

1764
01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:14,760
done the same things, the British Empire and the rest,

1765
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,359
you know, and all the way back to an Impersian empire.

1766
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,960
And so we've done it over and over and over again.

1767
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:23,159
And the most dangerous point of any empire is it's

1768
01:33:23,159 --> 01:33:26,680
in its death cycle. And so we've become extremely dangerous

1769
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,119
as you know, an international presence, as a as a

1770
01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:33,600
military body, as a secret service and everything else. And

1771
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,520
it's it's just human behavior playing itself out. It's not

1772
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,960
because the CIA is evil and all this, and that's

1773
01:33:39,039 --> 01:33:43,079
the danger of you know, politicians coming along and saying well,

1774
01:33:43,279 --> 01:33:45,880
CIA is your problem, and FDA is your problem. I'm

1775
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,880
going to see all of them and I'll make it right.

1776
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm your white Knight.

1777
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 3: And no, that's just a perpetuation of the same mentality

1778
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,000
of the problems outside of ourselves. We've got to start

1779
01:33:57,079 --> 01:33:59,800
sovereignty again, and we will. There's gonna be a small

1780
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,119
set of society that will survive this collapse of empire,

1781
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,840
and we will have too low of a metabolic state

1782
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,319
as a planet to generate the next empire. And so

1783
01:34:08,399 --> 01:34:11,800
that's interesting. Humans getting to this point can't generate the

1784
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:16,399
next empire because we've so entangled our economies around abstract

1785
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,600
value systems, all of which are extracting in the life

1786
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,359
force out of the planet, and therefore they are all

1787
01:34:22,399 --> 01:34:24,399
on an extinction path. And so it will be interesting

1788
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:26,399
because we are going to get to this like last

1789
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,640
gasp of hew many where it's like nobody's got the

1790
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,880
energy to go kill people.

1791
01:34:30,079 --> 01:34:31,399
Speaker 1: Is that going to be in our lifetimes?

1792
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think it's going to happen in our.

1793
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I could dieting points of my life thing,

1794
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,720
But in the life cycle of the next fifty years

1795
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:39,319
we will see that.

1796
01:34:39,399 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 2: For sure.

1797
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we're only a few years away from this

1798
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,199
massive change. Yeah, that's why I keep it could happen

1799
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:46,840
by the end of this decade, like it's that's upon us.

1800
01:34:47,359 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: It's well, if we look at the astrological if we

1801
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,760
look at the uga cycles, if we look at all

1802
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,840
of the things, the Vedic texts, all the all the

1803
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:58,159
ancient texts all say it's it's now, it's now, this

1804
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:00,000
decade is going to be a hell of a run.

1805
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Yea ell of a run.

1806
01:35:02,399 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: You have spoken about man, I've never spoken to anybody

1807
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,560
about this, and you've brought it up in other shows.

1808
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:14,159
Vibrational and frequency connection to our body. The lower our

1809
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:18,520
vibration or our lower our frequency, the more unhealthy we are.

1810
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:23,680
The higher our vibration, the higher our frequency, the healthier

1811
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:28,560
we are, the more the immune systems able to attack,

1812
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,560
and you don't get sick because of that. Can you

1813
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,880
kind of explain what you mean by because when you're

1814
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,560
talking about, hey man, my vibes are realloaded, it like

1815
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,520
it sounds very sixties, very esoteric. Can you kind of

1816
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,640
bring it down to a grounded level of what you

1817
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,640
mean by vibration and frequency within the body.

1818
01:35:46,079 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 3: We're the greatest technology that the service has ever created.

1819
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,760
By far, our organism has things that we're able to

1820
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,680
generate frequency wise that no other species has done on

1821
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,720
this planet. And so we contribute to nature very beautifully.

1822
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,319
We are a keystone species, and we might be the

1823
01:36:01,319 --> 01:36:04,079
most profound keystone species that has ever touched this planet

1824
01:36:04,079 --> 01:36:05,920
if we're in right relationship to nature.

1825
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:07,399
Speaker 2: And we've been able to.

1826
01:36:07,319 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 3: Measure this in science through frequency through vibration, and that

1827
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,119
is measured in plants, for example, through an electro incephalogram

1828
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,640
that we then hook up to a plant. So basically

1829
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,119
the same eg that would monitor brain waves and the

1830
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:24,520
frequencies that are generated by neurons, we can put on

1831
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,319
a plant and then we can show that if the

1832
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:30,479
human tells that plant you are beautiful, I love you,

1833
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,199
the plant actually immediately responds to that with new growth

1834
01:36:34,199 --> 01:36:36,920
factors and the root systems s perhaps new root fibrals

1835
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,479
puts growth factors in, It grows faster and more healthy.

1836
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,560
The immune system works better. The immune system not a battleground.

1837
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,920
Immune system is a method for inter relationships between species,

1838
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,239
and so then suddenly has more relationships to other species

1839
01:36:49,239 --> 01:36:51,880
and that plant is now functioning as a wolf tree,

1840
01:36:52,199 --> 01:36:53,880
which is a description of a tree that becomes a

1841
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,960
keystone species within the plant world. And so that tree

1842
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,279
then in being loved and being seen more vigorously and

1843
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:04,119
provide much more for the environment around it, and will

1844
01:37:04,119 --> 01:37:06,880
increase the nutrient density and the life cycles and the

1845
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,479
life force of the whole forest floor. And so humans, like,

1846
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,399
can you imagine you're an oak tree? Like no oak

1847
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,279
tree has ever woken up being like I don't think

1848
01:37:15,279 --> 01:37:17,640
I was a very good oak tree yesterday, Like that

1849
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,600
birch tree was a lot sexier than me. I think

1850
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,680
like I wish I had that slender look of the

1851
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,439
aspen over there, and I'm just fat oak over here.

1852
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:26,399
Speaker 2: No, it's never never done it.

1853
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 3: And so the oak is the oak is the oak

1854
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,000
is the oak. So you would think that nature is

1855
01:37:30,039 --> 01:37:32,840
like so sovereign in its identity, what could a human

1856
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,039
possibly add? And we add because we have the ability

1857
01:37:37,079 --> 01:37:39,600
to see that we're separate from the oak. And so

1858
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,399
in the perception that we're separate from the oak, we

1859
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:44,319
can see the oak's beauty differently than the bird that's

1860
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:46,479
sitting in the oak that can't differentiate.

1861
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: Itself from the oak tree.

1862
01:37:47,039 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 3: It's just it's the element of the oak tree that

1863
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,079
sits in the nest, and so the bird can't do

1864
01:37:53,159 --> 01:37:55,439
what a human can do for that tree. It is

1865
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,199
in our division of our perception of reality that allows

1866
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:02,159
us to donate something to nature that is necessary for

1867
01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:05,199
its fullest expression. It needs to be seen by something

1868
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:08,199
that sees itself different than itself, separate from so that

1869
01:38:08,199 --> 01:38:10,000
the beauty can be fully seen in a new and

1870
01:38:10,039 --> 01:38:12,680
different way. And when we tell it what we're seeing,

1871
01:38:13,079 --> 01:38:16,640
it grows more vigorously. And so this is the beautiful

1872
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,920
thing about frequency from humans is that it is a

1873
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:24,199
technology that works, and it works uniquely within the complexity

1874
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,760
of millions of species that are interacting on this planet.

1875
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,680
Species that aren't separate from nature benefit from our telling it.

1876
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,359
I see you, I love you. I'm grateful for your shade.

1877
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,960
I love laying underneath you. I love seeing the sky

1878
01:38:37,039 --> 01:38:40,439
through your branches. I love the way your leaves shimmer

1879
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,720
in the morning. I love the way do forms on

1880
01:38:43,079 --> 01:38:45,199
the tips of your leaves. I love the way that

1881
01:38:45,239 --> 01:38:48,520
the birds open your respiratory pores when they sing in

1882
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,439
their song in the morning. The human seeing all of

1883
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,720
that beauty invigorates nature to it and do its beauty

1884
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,560
even more beautifully. And so this is what I mean

1885
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,479
by frequency of human and it's been measured very well

1886
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,600
in Faraday cages and everything else. Now, so Faraday cage

1887
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is basically an electromatic shield that you can put over

1888
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:10,840
any electrical equipment. You can protect satellite imaging technology that

1889
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needs to not be affected by the incoming electromatic fields.

1890
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It's basically a grounded wire net that creates a shield

1891
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around something inside of it.

1892
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Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1893
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and now back to the show.

1894
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Speaker 3: And so they'll put a human inside of a Faraday cage,

1895
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meaning they're isolating the electromagnetic generation of a human body.

1896
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And then they have the human tell stories. Tell me

1897
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,199
about when your grandmother did this, and oh, so you

1898
01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:44,560
can gender a moment of love or joy and they

1899
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,640
can monitor or these frequencies that are coming out of

1900
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the human body. You know, you're super sexy if you

1901
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,800
just tell a human that, like, these frequencies come out

1902
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,119
of it that are spectacular high vibration. Now, I don't

1903
01:39:56,119 --> 01:39:58,159
think you spend enough time with your father. And your

1904
01:39:58,199 --> 01:40:00,760
father died alone in the nursing home twenty twenty one

1905
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,399
under COVID and he was alone, and that guilt shame

1906
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kicks in. And these low vibration frequencies come out of

1907
01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:10,960
the human and when biology picks those up, you decrease

1908
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,159
the life force of plants around you. You decrease the

1909
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:16,199
life force of nature around you when you feel these

1910
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low vibration things of fear, guilt, shame, and so the

1911
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frequencies that we generate for the same reason that we

1912
01:40:23,279 --> 01:40:25,880
generated the high frequency ones. We're separate from nature. Therefore

1913
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,359
we can see the beauty. The danger is we have

1914
01:40:28,399 --> 01:40:30,479
separate from nature. Therefore we have fear, guilt, and shame.

1915
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And so our very weakness is the result of the

1916
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very same phenomenon that makes us so superpower. That's pretty

1917
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:41,600
true in everything, Like my strengths are my greatest weaknesses,

1918
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and so that's how nature works as well. Your greatest

1919
01:40:45,039 --> 01:40:47,760
strength is going to make you vulnerable to your greatest weaknesses,

1920
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and ours happens to be the dichotomy between being ample

1921
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,800
to see unconditional love and express that in a unique

1922
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,880
way and experience fear, guilt and shame and our separation

1923
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:57,520
from everything.

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Speaker 2: So vibration is real.

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Speaker 3: Vibration increases that keystone species effect low vibration. You know,

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symptoms of our separation from nature, our abandonment disorder, decrease

1927
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the vitality.

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Speaker 2: So then the.

1929
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Speaker 1: Food has Plants have vibrations obviously and frequency, So the

1930
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food that we're putting into our bodies have a frequency

1931
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and a vibration. So if you have something that's a

1932
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little bit on a higher level of frequency, so let's

1933
01:41:30,079 --> 01:41:33,760
say something closer to nature, salad foods for vegetables, things

1934
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like that that are alive and close, they have a

1935
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,760
higher frequency as opposed to something super processed, super in

1936
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a box. You know, something that has so many chemicals

1937
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,159
in it has a very low low fright, So when

1938
01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:50,239
you're ingesting those foods, your frequency is being adjusted accordingly,

1939
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,800
because you're if you're eating fast food all the time,

1940
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,600
which is devoid of a lot of nutrients, if had

1941
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,359
anything very little, your frequency is constantly going Now, hence

1942
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,520
you're going to become sicker and so on. Is that

1943
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makes sense.

1944
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Speaker 3: It's terrifying when you think about the current condition of

1945
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:10,000
our food system and that reality. Because I stopped eating

1946
01:42:10,039 --> 01:42:13,399
poultry for a long time back because my daughter wanted

1947
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,199
us to watch food ink. Back in two thousand and

1948
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:16,800
eight orally like that, and that was the end of

1949
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,239
meat for quite a while in my life. For fourteen

1950
01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:24,079
years of strict vegan my taught plant based nutrition, which

1951
01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:26,000
isn't strictly vegan, but it's more a sense of like,

1952
01:42:26,039 --> 01:42:28,520
we got to make the plants the foundation of everything

1953
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,439
here because they're carrying so much life force within them

1954
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,319
that's so much closer to their origin than something like

1955
01:42:34,359 --> 01:42:36,760
a piece of process something or piece of meat that

1956
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,119
was processed through a high intensitive feed lot. But if

1957
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:43,159
you look at the production of poultry right now, it's

1958
01:42:43,239 --> 01:42:47,800
a good example of what you just said. If you

1959
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,479
close your eyes and imagine being born a bird. In

1960
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,960
this case, maybe you're a hen, you're a chicken. You've

1961
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,960
got wings and you've got feathers, and you're beautiful, and

1962
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,279
you've got this sense of the constant provision of nature.

1963
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:05,760
And nature provides tiny little seeds and insects and all

1964
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,800
kinds of things that your eyes are uniquely capable of seeing.

1965
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Speaker 2: And when you walk through a yard of earth and you.

1966
01:43:13,279 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 3: Walk through that nature, you're instantly struck by just the

1967
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,600
abundance around you, and so you peck all day long,

1968
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:25,039
consuming the abundance of nature, and through you you process

1969
01:43:25,279 --> 01:43:28,840
so much nutrient that you're seeding back into the earth

1970
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,239
around you, the next potential of life. And so your

1971
01:43:32,279 --> 01:43:35,079
presence increases the diversity of seeds that are being born

1972
01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:38,079
and the soils around you. You will create a more

1973
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:41,560
verdant grassland for the cycle of seeds and nutrients through

1974
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,920
you and passes through the body. And then you lay eggs,

1975
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,399
which is the potential for new life. And you do

1976
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,479
this on a daily basis. What if everything three days

1977
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,680
or every one day you were putting out another potential

1978
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,399
of a completely new life.

1979
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,039
Speaker 2: What a beautiful existence.

1980
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Speaker 3: And then humans come along and decide that you're a

1981
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,239
good source of protein, and so they put you in

1982
01:44:01,279 --> 01:44:03,399
a cage and which you can't ever walk. You will

1983
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,000
never actually take a step in your life. You'll be

1984
01:44:06,079 --> 01:44:10,039
born and you will be mechanically put through a large

1985
01:44:10,039 --> 01:44:13,079
machine that stamps you and chops your beak off and

1986
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:15,039
then puts you in a cage that you can't turn

1987
01:44:15,079 --> 01:44:17,680
around in and will feed you some form of a

1988
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:24,520
genetically modified you know, grain or legume mix that puts

1989
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,760
a very small amount of nutrient into your body such

1990
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,760
that your immune system would be fine family immediately over

1991
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,600
the six weeks of your life as a boiler chicken,

1992
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,840
you'll be butchered at six weeks if you survive to it.

1993
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,720
But one third of the flock has already died of

1994
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,880
invasive bacterial infections by six weeks because the immune system

1995
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,359
is completely shocked. The microbiome was wiped out by the

1996
01:44:44,359 --> 01:44:47,840
antibiotics that are put into the feed. And there's stacks

1997
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,880
and stacks of cages above you, and the chickens above

1998
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,359
you are shitting on your head, and there's urine, and

1999
01:44:53,399 --> 01:44:57,960
there's feces everywhere, and your eggs are covered with crap,

2000
01:44:58,039 --> 01:45:01,760
and you're all you know is separation from nature.

2001
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 2: All you know is this hopeless state of.

2002
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,520
Speaker 3: This couldn't have been my path, This couldn't be a

2003
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,239
divine experience whatever. This is a living hell that I've

2004
01:45:09,239 --> 01:45:12,560
stepped into. And in my stress is that chicken I'm

2005
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,399
putting into my DNA. I'm expressing my DNA in the

2006
01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:19,880
most extreme state of hopelessness, and so all my DNA

2007
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,960
is in fight or flight from the moment I'm born

2008
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,439
to the moment I'm butchered six weeks later, and my

2009
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:30,439
whole experience is just horror. And then that ends up

2010
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,439
on a menu that says chicken salad, and the woman says, oh,

2011
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:38,199
I'll take the chicken salad. That sounds healthy, And moments

2012
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:40,880
later she's got in her mouth the meat of a

2013
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,840
bird that only knew horror. And within minutes, the micro

2014
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,279
RNA that was carried in that meat is now carried

2015
01:45:47,279 --> 01:45:50,880
in her bloodstream is interacting with her DNA to change

2016
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,720
the genetic expression of her human genome. And we now

2017
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,199
know that the micro rna and from our food can

2018
01:45:57,239 --> 01:45:59,199
account for as much as five to ten percent of

2019
01:45:59,239 --> 01:46:01,920
our total mine in our bloodstream just half an hour

2020
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,159
after a meal, and so that five percent of our

2021
01:46:05,279 --> 01:46:09,479
genome that's now absorbing this information. And then, for reasons

2022
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,319
she can't understand, that woman goes into a massive panic

2023
01:46:12,319 --> 01:46:14,840
attack as she's driving to her kids' school an hour

2024
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,720
and a half later, and she knows this overwhelming sense

2025
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,920
of impending doom. If you read the DSM four of

2026
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,119
a panic attack, that's the number one most reported sentence

2027
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:27,560
out of a human's mouth is I suddenly experienced a

2028
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:31,720
sense of impending doom. I mean, that's a pretty intense sentence,

2029
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,760
and it's weird that it was so common that it

2030
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:36,960
is on the top of the lifts of the DSM

2031
01:46:37,039 --> 01:46:43,159
four Psychiatric Diagnostic Handbook. I suddenly was overwhelmed by a

2032
01:46:43,239 --> 01:46:44,640
sense of impending doom.

2033
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Generally, they're not eating salads all the all day generally.

2034
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: Well, the fact is a lot of us are eating

2035
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,560
food that went through that horror every day, and we

2036
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,079
are having panic attacks at a rate that's never been

2037
01:46:59,079 --> 01:46:59,720
seen before.

2038
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Weren't panic attacks in the eighteen hundreds.

2039
01:47:02,079 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: That wasn't how they may have been, but they were rare,

2040
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,159
and so it took.

2041
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:09,279
Speaker 3: It was rare, and so I didn't grow up with

2042
01:47:09,359 --> 01:47:13,800
children that had depression anxiety disorders. We just didn't have

2043
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,039
that lexicon. Now, you talk to any middle school group

2044
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,199
and they've all been diagnosed with anxiety disorders, sleep disorders,

2045
01:47:21,279 --> 01:47:24,560
chronic pain syndromes, chronic fifty seek syndromes, And if you

2046
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,119
ask any of them do you ever have a sense

2047
01:47:26,119 --> 01:47:28,560
of impending doom, you're going to get a high percentage

2048
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,359
of twelve thirteen year olds that say yes on a

2049
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,359
daily basis. I get that feeling. I don't think I'm

2050
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,119
going to survive here. I don't think this is survivable.

2051
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,920
I think you know, so they're having this daily experience

2052
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,520
and they are living the utter stress of a food system.

2053
01:47:44,359 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 2: That has no hope, has impending doom upun it.

2054
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:51,079
Speaker 1: Have you Have you heard of the concepts of grounding?

2055
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2056
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your take on grounding? I've been doing

2057
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,680
it for a while now and I sleep so much.

2058
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Better, much better. Yeah. Yeah.

2059
01:48:01,279 --> 01:48:03,520
Speaker 3: I started using them about twenty ten or something like

2060
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,439
that my clinic. So the last fifteen years I've seen

2061
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,000
it work wonders in all kinds of situations. But yeah,

2062
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,319
I know, it's instantaneous. As soon as you ground the body,

2063
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:13,399
all kinds of good things happen. So I was using

2064
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:15,760
grounding mass grounding sheets on the beds so that people

2065
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,920
would at least get eight hours of grounding in because

2066
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,520
I couldn't get them to go barefoot in the garden

2067
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,199
during the day. I'm like, oh, well, that's all right.

2068
01:48:21,239 --> 01:48:22,720
This is convenient because I'm in the ground you all

2069
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,640
night long. And when you round a body, the word

2070
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,800
grounding means connecting you to a flow of electrons, and

2071
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,680
so the whole surface of the earth is covered in

2072
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,960
a blanket of electrons. And when you touch the earth

2073
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,479
with bare feet or you put your hand on the

2074
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,720
soil as you can go weed the garden. The moment

2075
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,000
you touch the weed or the soil or anything that's conductive,

2076
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,520
a sidewalk works for it. Could even beaches are the best.

2077
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,520
And so you go touch nature for a moment, you're

2078
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:54,600
immediately connected to an electrical blanket, electrical supply of electrons

2079
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,079
that literally covers the entire surface of the Earth. And

2080
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:01,399
at the moment you touch that, you those electrons rush

2081
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,520
to the positive charges inside your body to neutralize the

2082
01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:07,600
acid are the positive charge that accumulates in a body

2083
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,640
that's inflamed. So inflammation and disease is positive charge. Health

2084
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:12,640
is negative charge.

2085
01:49:14,119 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

2086
01:49:20,279 --> 01:49:21,520
and now back to the show.

2087
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,359
Speaker 3: And so when we talk about grounding a body, you're

2088
01:49:25,399 --> 01:49:28,119
talking about reconnecting yourself to the life force of the

2089
01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:30,399
earth and not expecting your body to produce all of

2090
01:49:30,399 --> 01:49:33,159
your electrons. Mitochondria that turn away to break up the

2091
01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:35,760
carbohydrates and fats in your diet into energy will create

2092
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,680
an electron flow. And so if you are not walking

2093
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,760
barefoot and you are isolated from Earth, you're dependent on

2094
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,840
your own genitive engine to create the electrons for to

2095
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,640
fight inflammation and disease. If you will tourch to the earth.

2096
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,439
Now you have a genitive engine that's twenty five thousand

2097
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,039
miles in circumference, that's making electrons for your body. And

2098
01:49:55,079 --> 01:49:57,359
so grounding is a no brainer. We need to do it.

2099
01:49:57,399 --> 01:50:01,399
And I often will forget this until I'm like kind

2100
01:50:01,399 --> 01:50:03,279
of bonking on my travels, and then I'm like, oh,

2101
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:04,960
I need to get my shoes off as soon as

2102
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,199
I get off the plane, and I need to walk

2103
01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:09,119
and grasp just for a few minutes, and immediately it

2104
01:50:09,239 --> 01:50:11,880
cracks your jet lag, and it cracks the inflammation you've

2105
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,239
accumulated and all that. It's it's ludicrous that I'm not

2106
01:50:15,279 --> 01:50:17,439
walking around grounded all the time. It's ludicrous that I

2107
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,600
tolerate sleeping in beds that I'm grounded because I know

2108
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:21,439
it works so well.

2109
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 1: But then I take it with me everywhere. Now I

2110
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,560
take my mats with me everywhere, and the connect you

2111
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:28,720
connect on your feet and arms, and it's just like

2112
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,479
sit at your desk, I'm grounded all day when I'm

2113
01:50:32,079 --> 01:50:35,279
I'm sitting at a desk. It's really and when you

2114
01:50:35,359 --> 01:50:37,840
use the right products, because sometimes you get those cheap

2115
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,199
knock offs, and I did that originally didn't work, and

2116
01:50:40,319 --> 01:50:42,439
I actually got you know, Clint, right, the god Clint.

2117
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:44,960
No Clint, yeah, Clint. So when I got one of his,

2118
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,520
I sat there and I went to bed. I was like,

2119
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,000
and I was having a lot of trouble sleeping, and

2120
01:50:50,039 --> 01:50:52,840
I was like, just ge't you get up like you like,

2121
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,399
it's such a deep sleep that you're just like, oh God,

2122
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:56,840
it just.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go come up out of the water and

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find earth again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, As opposed to this light light thing that

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you have. Without it, it's it's mind boggling. It's mind

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woggling to hear that, Zach. I can keep talking to

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you for at least another four hours. Brother, this has

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been so fascinating. I'm going to ask you a few questions.

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Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living

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a fulfilled life?

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Speaker 3: Presence is unbelievable, how much time it can be experienced

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when you become really present. And if you want to

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live long, I would say, stop biohacking and start sitting

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under trees, because you'll you can live a lifetime under

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a tree for an hour and you'll experience so much

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as you reconnect to the knowingness of everything. So a

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life well lived is a life that experiences one present

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moment of the next.

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Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time

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and speak to little Zach, what advice would you give him?

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Speaker 2: You're not alone?

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Speaker 1: If you if what would little Zach tell you? What

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advice would he give you?

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Speaker 2: Stop thinking? Feel more beautiful? How do you define God

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or so still point in the universe? What is love?

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Speaker 3: The electromagetic frequency that's generated by human body when it

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sees beauty.

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Speaker 1: That's a great answer. I haven't had that one before.

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If you could ask God one question, what would it be?

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Speaker 2: Can you show me my beauty?

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life to see

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the beauty? And where can people find out more about

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you and the amazing work you're doing.

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Speaker 2: In the world.

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Speaker 3: Then I would say, probably go out and dig a

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hole in the garden and plant a tree seed and

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you'll find me there. If you want a more three

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dimensional experience, you can go to Zach Bush MD dot

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com and I've got a bunch of free education and

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it's kind of a portal into all the other projects

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that I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: We have a great joy of doing these immersive experiences

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right now where we're putting groups of people into seven

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day experiences of complete embodiment of the moment and remembering

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your original design from the womb and so putting people

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in a wombstate for seven days at a time has

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shown itself to be an extremely rewarding and on inspiring

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thing to witness, and so that's something you all be

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welcome to experience. The soil product that Nature has been

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showing us again and again the power of connecting human

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biology back to these original soil systems and the original

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intelligence within the Earth that's called the intelligence of Nature

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dot com.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at that science there.

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Speaker 3: We've pre reviewed a lot of science around how Earth

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reverses these wounds that we've been talking about. Nature's never

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allowed an injury that she didn't have a solution for,

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and so you can take a look at Intelligence in

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Nature under the science page there and see that see

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the deeper truth on what's actually happening when we call

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gluten sensitivity, that it's actually glyc state poisoning, and we

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show you the mechanisms by which glyf state disrupts the

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gut lining and creates these immune reactions that then gives

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us the belief that we have intolerance to food. We

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actually just have intolerance to chemicals. The corn and the

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so I mean may be genetically modified to be round

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up ready, but your biology is not.

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Speaker 1: And that is why people with gluten allergies or have

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siliac can eat bread sometimes in Europe or in other

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countries to Russia and the bread, it is completely different there,

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different there. And Zach, do you have any party messages

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for the audience.

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Speaker 2: I love you. I'm so grateful. I'm amazed to be

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human right now.

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Speaker 3: I think I just feel very very fortunate today to

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have been embodied again today. I mean, the universe conspired

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to allow me to live again today.

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Speaker 2: I have no free will to live tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But if another day of life comes to me to

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share another meal with all of you, I feel very grateful.

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Speaker 2: Zach.

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Speaker 1: You are like a monk, a spiritual monk dancing inside

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of a doctor's body. It's beautiful, man, it is such

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a beautiful. You have such a beautiful energy to you

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and your point of views on things.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, like you.

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Speaker 1: Were saying, the path has been perfect for you. If

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you wouldn't have gone down the paths of academia and

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all the things you wouldn't be able to be doing

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the work you're doing today.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be me exactly, Matt, So I want to

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give back a second one. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. I look forward to our

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next conversation and thank you for helping awaken this planet.

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My friend Zoe, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready for the next level soul.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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