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Speaker 1: That's such a good song.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Survivor. It's been different this season

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than usual. We decided, since the Challenge seems to be

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taking a break, that we were going to talk about

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something else. And with it being a nice round season

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of Survivor number fifty and they're celebrating by bringing a

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bunch of people back, we're like, why not? As always?

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I am Brian sitting across at his house has a

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bunch of plants in the window.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I am now a botanist. Guys, part time botanist. Oh,

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very accomplished. Our friend Blake, that's his big obsession now

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as plants. Once it's yeah, once you start doing.

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Speaker 2: It, everything dies when I try to stuff and sitting

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in the war.

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Speaker 3: Torn hellscape that is aeration.

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Speaker 2: Zone known as Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Is Carlin San Diego fascist state.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we are the fight of this from a fascist state.

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We just have to have a fascist state trying to

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invade us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, headover Challenge plot dot com. Join the Facebook group.

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You can also join our Survivor fifty public fantasy league group.

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Speaker 1: Oh should I need to do that?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, you both do.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun. The leagues are so fun. Listeners, please

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join us.

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Speaker 3: There is a very good chance that I am going

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to do absolutely fucking horrible this year.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you might do the You might have

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the benefit of like the beginner's luck thing of just

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like you're so blindly stupid that you might just do Okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean maybe I'm my So, my goal this season is

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I'm not going to look at any of the social media's.

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I'm not going to look at any of the web

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page like the Survivor webpage. I'm not gonna look at

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any I'm not gonna read any articles. I'm not gonna

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do any of it. I'm gonna try to not do

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the next week on Yeah, so this is your literally like, yeah,

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just the.

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Speaker 1: Season ever of Survivor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see that.

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Speaker 1: For myself, I've seen every season of Survivor. I do

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love Survivor. I look forward to it every week, but

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it's not I'm not as like deep and encyclopedic in

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my knowledge as the challenge. So I hope you guys

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don't expect me to be as knowledgeable. I might be

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wrong about a lot. Get over it.

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Speaker 2: Tim has seen every season, though I've only seen a

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handful of seasons and Carlin doesn't even know how Survivor works,

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which is what the purpose of this episode is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll talk about the game, We'll talk about

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the players and the little.

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Speaker 3: Bit that I do know. I have a girlfriend here

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who absolutely loves Survivor. She and her mother have seen

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every single episode. Shout out to Neely if she ever

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actually listens to this. She one of her goals in

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life is to actually be on Survivor. She competed in

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a did a like a local version of Survivor here

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last summer. She competed in that for charity.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so did she tell you about the show?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so she told me like bits. I haven't talked

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to her recently about it, but over the years she

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has told me some of it.

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Speaker 1: So, like, I know, what do you know that it's.

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Speaker 3: They all live on an island. I do know that

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the Survivor owns an island. They that they do this

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on because it's cheaper. They live on an island. I

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feel like one of you guys might have told me

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that they get rice to eat, but they have to

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like divvy it up. I don't know they have to

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get idols. I don't know what the idols have to

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do with anything other than there are idols, and they

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are sometimes hidden around the island. And then I feel

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like last season or in the last few seasons of

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this show, we have talked about how they try to

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film two seasons at a time, like kind of back

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to back, and so sometimes if it's the second season,

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they find idols from the first season or vice versa

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that they're not supposed to have. But I don't know

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what any of it means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that one, I'm not so sure about that one.

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But I know, like sometimes they go back to the

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island and find idols that nobody found yet. But I

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don't know about them cut carry over from season to season.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just it's there. These are the random,

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like fact things, not in the fact, the random shit

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that I've picked up over the years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, well, if you sum it up, how is the

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game actually played? You've seen enough seasons in now, all right.

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Speaker 2: So everybody shows up on boats, they've already been pre

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selected into three different tribes. Usually, I'm assuming there are

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seasons where the tribe selection has been a little different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes two, but usually three.

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Speaker 2: For the main part, you're split up into three tribes.

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They're usually color coded, and they drop you off on

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the beach. Jeff props is there does little like, hey, guys,

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are you excited to be on Survival? And they have

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a little chat and then lately go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Are the teams? Are they already assigned to teams? Or

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they kick teams when they get there.

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Speaker 2: They're already pre assigned to teas. So recently when they

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get there they have seems like they have to do

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a challenge like right away on.

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Speaker 3: The beach, okay.

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Speaker 2: And the idea is the first two teams will get

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your flint so you're able to make a fire at

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your camp. The last team will not, sometimes pretty much.

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And sometimes sometimes there's other like things like we'll give

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you a tarp or something for you to help build

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a shelter.

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Speaker 1: Turn turn luxury, you know, luxury.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And these luxuries are shared amongst the team. It's

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not just like one person gets.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and it's like front, it's like a frying

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pan and you know, the yeah, tarp like you said,

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or a pillow. You know. It's it's very simplistic living

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ship and all the all the.

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Speaker 3: Tribes, like everybody in the team gets.

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Speaker 1: It depends on what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the tribes are split onto different parts of the island.

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In order to get to like challenges and stuff, they

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have to get on a boat and the boat takes

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them to where the challenge is going to be. Tribes

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don't really interact when they are not in a challenge.

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Speaker 1: Or some sort of interesting okay.

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Speaker 2: So then it becomes a social game in between everybody

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on their own individual team. About halfway through the season

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they have what they call the merge, is if you

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survive to a point, it's lived to a certain point,

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they merge all the teams into just one group and

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then it becomes essentially an individual game. But the basically

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the whole game is just a social game. There are

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challenges and stuff, but the challenges are like pretty anything

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you've seen on the Challenge. They are not doing that.

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A lot of it is like you have to balance

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a ball on this thing while you hold it and

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if it drops, you're out.

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Speaker 3: Mostly we're going back to the carnival games of early

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days of Challenge.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're more intense.

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Speaker 3: Than that, that kind of that like more of that

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level than what they have to do now, where you're

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like you have to climb this mountain, you have to

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run along this thing, and you.

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Speaker 1: Have to anybody like these challenges. Literally almost anybody can

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do them because survivors are like they're old, they're young,

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they're huge as fat, they're skinny, so they you know,

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it's they're hard. They're hard for everybody, but everybody could

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really do them, and Survivor's really good at making them,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: In that way, there is some like bigger competitions, but

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it's like go over like a hurt like a giant

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hurdle bar. You have to go under the next one,

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and then over there's a net that's in a mud

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pit and you have to crawl through it. Yeah, and

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you have to climb like a wood wall to get

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up to the top and do a puzzle. You know.

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It's like that. So there's still some competition. Now, every

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episode roughly has an immunity challenge. So if you're on

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a team and you win the immunity challenge, your whole

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team is immune from going to what they call travel Council,

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and usually it's like the first two teams or whatever,

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so then it's just one team that has to figure

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out who's going home. They'll do reward challenges. After they're

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out there for a little bit, it's like, how would

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you guys like to play for some delicious Chilis and it

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will be like they'll shore like a big spread. It

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used to be like used to be like a Chili

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sponsored Like what do they.

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Speaker 3: Call it, Chili's, like the restaurant Chili's. Not I immediately

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went to literal Chili's. This this sounds more like the

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eating challenges on the Challenge. Not It's not like, here's

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your your special thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they call they call it like the oasis or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty lame these rewards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you go to like a separate place

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and your if your team wins, your whole team gets

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the like a beast of like Chili's and stuff. Yes,

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sanctuary where good things happen.

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Speaker 1: That's why Jeff Probs has many good taglines like that

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the sanctuary, good things happen. That's how you do it

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on Survivor. Look at That's how you do it on Survivor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so then at the end of every episode,

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whichever team has lost, they have to go to tribal

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council and they all have to vote for one person

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to get sent home.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, when it gets to the merge, everybody goes and

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everybody votes for individual people. There are hidden immune of

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the idols scattered around the island. If you find one.

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The trick is, though, you have to play it before

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the votes are counted. So if you are paranoid, oh shit,

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I might be going home tonight. Jeff will ask does

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anybody have an advantage or a hidden immunity the idol?

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Like to play it now, and you have to play it,

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and then he'll read all the votes. Any votes for

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you won't count, but it could have become like, oh shit,

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I was paranoid, nobody voted for me, and I just

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wasted a night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So the idols are just on the island.

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You could just like happen upon them, or do they

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get kind of like a here's a little bit of

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a clue as to where these things might be.

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Speaker 1: Both, but if they will give you clues, you can

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win clues. But you can also if you're if you're diligent,

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you can just fucking look people.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people will go hunting for idols.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Can you hold on to the idol until the next day,

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or does it have to be played or the next week,

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or does it have to be played that week if

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you find it.

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Speaker 2: There's some interesting because they've made some changes over the

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last couple of seasons. It used to be you find

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in the Minia idol, you just play it whenever. Somehow

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that's like.

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Speaker 1: That week to week you don't have to play it

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that week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now there's some like you you can hold this

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until there's five people left or you know whatever. There's

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like a timetable on.

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Speaker 3: It, Okay, so that you can't like save yourself to

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get into the final type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like they've tried to make it a little

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bit more like that shit.

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Speaker 3: They shouldn't. They shouldn't state this ship and the challenge. Yeah,

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there's a lot of you're not allowed to save yourself

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right before the challenge.

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Speaker 1: The gameplay wise, Survivor is much better than the Challenge. Frankly,

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it's much better. It's like it's tight. It makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Part of God, if you guys get me hooked on

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the show.

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Speaker 1: So it's so good, you gotta explain the best part

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of the show. The best part of the show is

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the jury. Wolfy, Why is the jury the best part

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of the show.

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Speaker 2: So it gets up to a certain point merged, merge,

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and then people who are elimined after that go to

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the jury house and those people, wait.

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Speaker 3: We've moved We've moved on from this. This doesn't have

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anything to do with tribal council.

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Speaker 2: This is just there's still tribal council. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I was still in like tribal council land in

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my head. So we are now all the teams are

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down to a certain number of people. They've merged.

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Speaker 2: We've gone one group don't have counsel.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the journey. This is part of the

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gameplay of the Challenge of the Survivor, which is so.

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Speaker 3: Good, which the jury, council, journey.

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Speaker 2: People whatever, go to the jury house.

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Speaker 3: Only people okay voted out then go to the jury house,

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and everybody knows when this is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: So the game because it's like, you don't want to

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piss somebody off too bad by voting them out, because

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then they may come back, because then the jury.

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Speaker 1: This is the redemption house sort of, but the jury

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votes for the winner.

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Speaker 3: Anybody in the jury house, can they come back to

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the game.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they decide who wins.

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Speaker 2: So people go to the jury house. They come back

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for every tribal council and watch the tribal council. They

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don't know anything else that's going on outside of tribal council.

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Speaker 3: This makes a lot more sense as to how.

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Speaker 2: To be one at the end Josh one big brother.

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But it's the same same situation. Josh would not last

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on an island. People would have So people get voted out,

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they come back, and then in the last episode there

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are three people left and you bead your case.

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Speaker 3: This is why they to the jury.

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Speaker 2: This is why I think I deserve to win. I

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pulled off all these big moves all season, all these

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little moves nobody saw. I'm responsible for him, like, you

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have to plead your case of why you are the

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best player in the Survivor.

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Speaker 1: And so as well if he said you have to

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try to be friends with them, so you have to

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vote them out while trying to maintain a bond and

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a connection with them. That's that's the fun social part.

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Speaker 2: Create situations where you try to get blood on the

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other guy's hand to make it look like, oh, you

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getting voted that was this guy's fault. I tried to

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save you, and so people will say, yeah, I'm going

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along with the vote, and then they'll vote an opposite

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way just to protect themselves somebody they're friends with. Yeah,

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creates a lot of fun situations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so, so some good terminology to know in

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Challenged World goat means greatest of all time, Yes, and

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Survivor world goat is the total opposite. The goat is

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the person that will not win the season. And so

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if you're.

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Speaker 2: A sacrificial goat.

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Speaker 1: Yes, your job is to is to pull your the

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goat along. You want to be sitting at the final

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jury with a goat who will not get votes. So

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when people talk about the goat on Survivor, that means

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the person that won't win. Okay, that the worst player

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of the game is the goat.

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Speaker 3: I think people are gonna fucking love listening to this, yeah,

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because I'm just gonna sit here going, oh my god,

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I can't believe this habit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so fun. Is it is a really.

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Speaker 2: Fun social part of it is the most important part

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of this game totally.

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Speaker 1: Because you can win Survivor, and a lot of people do.

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You can win Survivor by never winning an Immunity Challenge

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by never winning a reward, stuff says.

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Speaker 3: I'm already enjoying this and hasn't even started.

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Speaker 1: By like never finding an immunity idol, by never playing

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anything like you can win just by being nice to

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people and by convincing them not to vote for you, okay,

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and then and then at the end convincing them to

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vote for you. So it is an entirely social game.

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But that also means that if somebody's likable, they want

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to vote them out. So you'll hear people say like

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that guy's a threat, and that means people like him, like,

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let's get him out, okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh Dwards, the goat is like Jenna and Jay being

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brought to the final on Battle of the Exes to

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exactly everybody knew they would suck.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thet is the layup.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good, yes, good comparison.

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Speaker 2: Stove also brings up beware advantages, which is somewhat newer

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from my understanding, addition.

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Speaker 3: To the game, sort of like advantage.

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Speaker 2: It's a beware advantage, sort of like an immunity idol.

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It's something you just will stumble across, and there's a

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note attached to it that says, if you open this,

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it is connected to you.

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Speaker 3: If you open this chest and you like wrapped.

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Speaker 2: In canvas or something, it's like, if you open this

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you have to do whatever it says. If you do

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not want to take this chance, just put it back.

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Let someone else discover it.

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Speaker 3: Are they always an advantage.

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Speaker 1: Or well, it means you usually do something awful for It.

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Speaker 2: Usually means you have to do something.

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Speaker 3: Like what like vote someone off or a bug.

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Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example. One would be like,

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you know, you read it and say, like, this isn't

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a muty idol, but for it to be activated, you

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have to find this other half. But the other half

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you have to like put your hands in this red

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ink to retrieve the other half, and this red ink

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will not come off your hands. And so now you've

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got to go back to the group and explain, like

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why you have this fucking red shit all over your

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hands and it just looks really suspicious. So the point

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is like you risked a lot, like you have. You

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now have an idol, it's active, but you have your

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entire team questioning why why does she have red shit

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all over her arm when we should vote her out?

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Like something fucking weird happened game? Yeah, so yeah, it's

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things like that. It's these weird little things that like

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it's it's a mission you have to accomplish, and until

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then you don't get to vote. So that puts you

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at a very big disadvantage when everybody's voting to vote

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somebody off your team. You cannot vote if you get

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this speware advantage until.

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Speaker 2: You do.

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Speaker 3: Oh and wait until you do the thing. So like

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if you if you get it and you put it

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back and you don't open it, then you're fine. You

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can just plad a game as it. But if you

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get it and you open the thing, you lose I

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vote that you have to do this thing in order

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to get whatever it says. Then you have to do

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that that thing otherwise.

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Speaker 1: You lose your Okay, yes, and the thing.

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Speaker 3: You have to do that thing.

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Speaker 1: It will tell you. But sometimes it's sometimes you just

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don't ever get a vote, Like if you don't do

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the thing, you just lose your vote forever, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: People catch on pretty quick. People like to count votes

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councils over They're like, why was there only five votes

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for this person and three for these people they're supposed

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to be six and two? Who are you know?

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: Like, they pay attention to everything on.

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Speaker 1: This show, so you don't have to tell people your advantages,

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and in fact you shouldn't. So if you have an idol,

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you should keep that private, tell nobody, okay, because if

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people know you haven't, they want to vote you out.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So in the challenge, one of the things that

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we have always had really hard times with is people

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coming on this show that have been that don't know

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anything about it, even the show, even though the show's

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in forty plus seasons. For the people coming on to Survivor,

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is it more common that they have watched the show before? Yes, okay,

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So theoretically, like everybody coming in has seen this before

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and knows like this is the shift that's going to

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be happening. I need to pay attention to everything totally.

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Speaker 1: And especially this season is all returning players. These guys

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have actually played before. Oh yeah, and a lot of

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them have won before.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, in a regular season, how many people, like,

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in guestimate of average, how many people come into this

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show not knowing anything about this game?

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Speaker 2: Not rarely usually it's super fans. Yeah, these are all

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people like Jeff I watch every season. I'm obsessed with it.

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Bah blah blah blah blah. They rattle off statistics for

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all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so some of the rules, just like the challenge,

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some of the rules do change, Like the Bigwaar advantages

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are always different, Like the thing, the risky thing will

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always be different, so that other seasons can't know, you know, yeah,

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so they can't see the signs.

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Speaker 2: Of it or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And so there will be every new season there will

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be another new rule, a different change of things. But yeah,

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ninety percent of the game is the same.

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Speaker 3: Do this is another thing that we always get really

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annoyed by. Do we the audience know what's going like,

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know all the rules of the game going in? I

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mean no other than like the Bigwaar advantages were obviously

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we won't know unless they open it up. But everything else, I.

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Speaker 1: Would say yes, because the the general framework of the

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show never changes. It's it's the social game, it's the merge,

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it's the jury, it's the votes.

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Speaker 3: Like that's always exactly Like you know, Willie Nilly halfway

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through the season being like, well, we're going to introduce

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these skulls, and these skulls are this thing, but do

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do that. I also have points with them, and if

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you get so many points, I'll tell you about that later.

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And then it's like six more episodes, Well these points

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do this thing that doesn't actually pan out to anything.

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Speaker 1: The difference I think with Survivor is that when they

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do that, it's one episode. It's like one or one

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game or one challenge. It's sort of like, here's the

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parameters for this one thing. It's never that I can

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think of. It's never like a full game thing where

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that you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: Half a season and then telling us that these points

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mean one thing and then they pan out to be

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absolutely fucking nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not for a while. There's been a couple of weird

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seasons like that one that remember Chris from the Challenge

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the cript from the USA season. He was a Challenge

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Survivor winner that ended up playing on the Challenge USA.

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Do you remember that guy karn.

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Speaker 3: No, The only person that I can remember is Tyson

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and then the fucking bitch cop woman who hated who

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just happened to win because everybody else quit.

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Speaker 2: Danny. Yeah, yeah, Danny with the beer.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, Yeah, you loved his wife.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Mikhaelas from Survivor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, yeah. Chris was a weird one that

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he won this season called Edge of Extinction where you

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could get voted off and then come back, uh to play,

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to keep playing. But those seasons, those don't happen anymore.

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They haven't happened last ten seasons maybe more, and they're

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very unfavorable. So I don't think we'll see those again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha, we haven't covered.

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Speaker 1: Stove says he thinks Edges back for fifty, which just possible.

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Edge was back for forty, and that was to keep

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players in the game longer. Because these players, we hypothetically

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love them, we've seen them before.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sweet, sorry, explain Edge again.

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Speaker 1: Edges where you Edge of Extinction is where you're voted

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out and then you you hang out and it's a

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redemption house. You hang out on Edge of Extinction and

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then you can be brought back in. It's redemption house.

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Same thing.

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Speaker 3: I hate Redemption house, So I really hope they don't.

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Speaker 1: No, But the point is with these it's like then

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you get to see the people that you love long yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they keep around, and I mean that's part of

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the reason why they did the fucking redemption house for

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the seasons for Challenge totally?

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Speaker 2: Yep. Is there anything else we should cover?

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Speaker 3: The players?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just meant game play. I don't think so, nop.

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00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, most of most of the dynamic I like is, yeah,

476
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,920
you're voting out the people that will then vote for you.

477
00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:56,200
That's I think that's like the most interesting thing.

478
00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: So Eduardo just says, also, everyone makes jury. If they

479
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,119
do that, everyone makes jury. If they do what, I

480
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,519
don't know.

481
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:05,279
Speaker 1: Makes Oh it's on edge.

482
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: Maybe if you do they if they go to extinction.

483
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,039
Speaker 1: They can they can remain on the jury, they can

484
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:14,319
have a vote and who wins.

485
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:18,079
Speaker 3: Oh wait, so wait, if there's if edge of extinction

486
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,759
is a thing, does that start at the beginning of

487
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:24,160
the game, So like when you have the three different teams,

488
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,279
like three different tribes, and anyone who gets voted out

489
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,640
from those goes to edge of extinction? Yeah, and then

490
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,319
they potentially come back when at.

491
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: The merge later than the merge. Probably, it depends. I mean,

492
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,039
it changes all the time. It just depends.

493
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: And is everyone aware that edge of extinction is there?

494
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,039
Speaker 1: M that's a great question. I actually don't. I actually

495
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:47,960
don't know. I think for forty, I think they kind

496
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,240
of knew, and if it's fifty, they probably kind of know.

497
00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

498
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. Good question.

499
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: Carl So says, hey want to hear a fun fact?

500
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: I mean totally, we love fun facts.

501
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: Uh, okay. I'm trying to think if I have any

502
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,440
other questions about a game.

503
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,519
Speaker 1: But I've never never watched.

504
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really excited for this. This is gonna be fun.

505
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: Here's the last piece. This is a new addition to

506
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,039
It's called the Shot in the Dark. I love this.

507
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,039
Shot in the Dark means if if you're on a

508
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,359
team and you feel like you're at risk, you feel

509
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,640
like you're going to be voted out, so you don't

510
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,160
have yes. But I don't have any advantages, right, I

511
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,480
feel like my team's going to vote for me. I

512
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,519
have no advantages. I have no immunity idols. I lost

513
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,440
community challenge. I can play a shot in the dark,

514
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,319
and a shot in the dark is essentially a roll

515
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,119
of the dice, which means I give up my vote.

516
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,000
I cannot vote that round. But I can play my

517
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,319
shot in the dark and roll the dice, and if

518
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,839
I if I hit my shot in the dark, I

519
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,119
win immunity for that round, but I can only play

520
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,680
that once per season. And that's very interesting because that

521
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:54,480
introduces a dynamic of not not ever telling the person

522
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,240
who's voted out that they're going to be voted out,

523
00:25:58,039 --> 00:25:59,359
because if you know for sure you're going to be

524
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,039
voted out, you play You're Shot in the dark. But

525
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,680
you don't want people to play they're shot in the

526
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,680
dark because that means they're immune, and that means somebody

527
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,920
else is going home. Does it makes sense?

528
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: It means cut kind kind of like I understand that

529
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,759
if you if you play your shot in the Dark,

530
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,960
then you get immunity.

531
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,559
Speaker 2: But there's a chance you can get immune.

532
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 1: There's one and six chance. It's like a dice, it's

533
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,400
one and six chance.

534
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put it in this thing. You're giving this

535
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,960
teeny tiny little scroll, and I think it's only was

536
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,319
only one of them that says you're saved, and the

537
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,559
other one's like, yeah.

538
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: There's six scrolls. You picked one, Yeah, you picked one, okay.

539
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,759
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like the season in the challenge

540
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,519
where they had to stick their hand in the box

541
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,079
and pull out like a black skull or whatever it was,

542
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,559
and if they pulled out or if they pulled out

543
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,599
the white skull, they were vice versa. They were going

544
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,759
to Okay, so if you pull out the one white skull.

545
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,279
Speaker 1: That says you're safe, then you're immune.

546
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: You're good, but you could have there are five others

547
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,400
where you're not immune, but there's no penalty other than

548
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,839
you don't get to vote.

549
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's it.

550
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you and theoretically you would only want

551
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,480
to do this if you are like totally convinced that

552
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:19,200
everyone is voting for you, and it's real obvious that

553
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,240
everyone is voting for you, right, that's.

554
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,279
Speaker 1: The time you would play your shot in the dark? Yeah, okay,

555
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,200
because it's.

556
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: How often does it happen where someone is just super

557
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,519
paranoid and they play their shot in the dark and

558
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,319
no one was planning on voting for them anyway, That.

559
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,079
Speaker 1: Has happening more often than the other than people playing

560
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:35,759
it appropriately.

561
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,039
Speaker 3: Does everyone else know that you're doing a shot in

562
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:39,359
the dark?

563
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: They will know, they will.

564
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: They will when they go to vote past the votes.

565
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: They won't know when they read When they read the

566
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,200
votes is when they find out. So you can still

567
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,160
because they don't want to know if you're safe or

568
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,599
not before voting. You know, so you vote to the person,

569
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,960
then you find out if they're safe or not.

570
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: Gotcha? Oh what count?

571
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

572
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: Okay, it's very complex, very complicated reality show.

573
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: A lot more.

574
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: It'll make a lot of sense on contacts when.

575
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: We get it's really dumb right now, not knowing any Oh,

576
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,839
I hope, I hope he gets the shots in the dark.

577
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: I hope he gets the shot in the dark this season.

578
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,319
I love a shot in.

579
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: The dark and that Carlin.

580
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: Do it on Survivor.

581
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Uh Stove says in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty

582
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:32,039
three Love Islands season five and six, Villa and Survivor

583
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Jury House were on the same island that survivors could

584
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,480
see lights and hear them partying.

585
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's crazy, that's fun.

586
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, let's run down the cast. I'm gonna turn

587
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,039
my camera off and I'm going to share my screen

588
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:56,000
like a powerpot. You can see who is on this season.

589
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: This is so exciting. Oh, Jenna, Well for you know, Jenna,

590
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:04,680
I do.

591
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,119
Speaker 3: Not I feel like you might be able to have

592
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,160
your camera on because it's got you on two different things,

593
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,759
like it's got your little box over here.

594
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: And but it will take up less brought a bandwidth

595
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,880
If I do it this way, you won't.

596
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:23,119
Speaker 1: Jenna right, she has a sex tape.

597
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,599
Speaker 2: Oh okay with her with her husband.

598
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,079
Speaker 3: I almost I saw her name Lewis do Alreaty, and

599
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,759
I immediately went to Jenna Louis Dreyfus. I was like,

600
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,319
that's that's not her name though, and then realized that

601
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:38,640
I was reading the wrong name and.

602
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: That's a different person.

603
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

604
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. Honestly, don't remember much about her except

605
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,079
that on season one she was a very young mom.

606
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,480
Season one, of course, was like twenty five years ago,

607
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480
so now she's a middle aged woman coming back. It'd

608
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,599
be interesting to see her play again.

609
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay, so she was. She was on like the.

610
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,759
Speaker 1: Original Survivor season season one from the year two thousand.

611
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:01,200
So this is.

612
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: Who did we have on All Stars that was on

613
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,559
season one?

614
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:06,039
Speaker 1: Was that.

615
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,839
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of who it was. Is it

616
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,039
the short Latina woman?

617
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,039
Speaker 1: Shit, I don't know.

618
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:17,759
Speaker 3: I'm back to me later.

619
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: That's a good story, Yeah, I know, right, Well, I

620
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:24,200
think so Survivor is different than the challenge of you know,

621
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,480
the challenge comes back twenty thirty seasons big time survivors

622
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:30,680
will still only have played four and five times.

623
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: So this is her third time playing and that's that's

624
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,400
pretty substantial. But yeah, season one.

625
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because how often do they bring players back? Like

626
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,119
how how how often is it?

627
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:44,559
Speaker 1: It used to be more often, but it hasn't been

628
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:48,119
since season forty. Okay, this is the first returney season.

629
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:54,319
Speaker 2: Yes, real, they did give There was that one guy

630
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680
who yeah, cracked his head open on the beach on

631
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,240
the very first challenge, like yeah, ran into a post

632
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,319
and just bled everywhere, and of course he got eliminated

633
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,279
like medically could not continue.

634
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the show.

635
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 2: Did bring him back the following the season they give

636
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,319
him a chance to.

637
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:17,279
Speaker 1: Fair. Yeah, he's been the only one since season forty.

638
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:20,799
Speaker 2: Next up, Colby Donaldson.

639
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,279
Speaker 3: Yes, are these pictures from their original season or pictures

640
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:28,839
of them now original? There's a good chance these people

641
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,640
are going to look nothing like what they do in these.

642
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Photos, Colby. This guy now is still a good looking dude,

643
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,319
but he's like in his mid fifties now, because yes,

644
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,319
this was he he played in twenty one.

645
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is this is like Mark, Yes exactly exactly,

646
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:46,000
but Colby's a good home, good old Texas boys.

647
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: He's good at physical challenges, He's very charming and like,

648
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,240
people really really love this guy from like a personality standpoint,

649
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:55,480
which makes him dangerous.

650
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,839
Speaker 3: How many like these people theoretically all know each other?

651
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,039
Speaker 2: Then?

652
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, long history with these with this whole cast.

653
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's gonna had so much more fun to this, like,

654
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,000
yeah together before, how do we like we've known each

655
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
other for this long? And but yet I don't want

656
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,480
you to Oh this is gonna be interesting, okay.

657
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Apparently was the first contestant to win five

658
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,039
immunity challenges in one season, all right, and he was

659
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:22,079
the runner up.

660
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,799
Speaker 1: Interesting second place on season two.

661
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:27,039
Speaker 6: Yep.

662
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Nice. Next up is Jesus Stephanie.

663
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Go back up to the boobs there we go. To

664
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,920
be honest, I don't remember much about Stephanie. I remember

665
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
on one of her seasons she dislocated her shoulder like

666
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,839
immediately I think that probably season twenty, and that was

667
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,880
pretty bad assing and like click it back into place.

668
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,319
That was pretty sweet. And that's all I remember from her.

669
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,279
Speaker 2: Apparently she was also a contestant on the first season

670
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,839
of The Traders.

671
00:32:54,599 --> 00:33:05,279
Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool, right, good for Stephanie Siri Si. SI's great.

672
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920
A lot of people say that she's the best who's

673
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,960
never won. She's played a lot of seasons as you

674
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,440
can see there, but yeah, like I said, never won,

675
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920
but she is as she's never one because she's a threat.

676
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,200
Everybody loves her. She's incredibly charming, incredibly like engaging and

677
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,880
funny and kind and uh you know, just like she's

678
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,880
she's a really great person. I don't think she's gonna

679
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,160
win them for those.

680
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,079
Speaker 3: When she apparently won the first season of The Traders,

681
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:36,880
I don't know the first season, so good for Even

682
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880
though there are lots of Challenge people on The Traders

683
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,720
and lots of Bravo people on The Traders, I still

684
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:42,319
I just I can't get into it. It's too cheesy

685
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:42,599
for me.

686
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,599
Speaker 1: Same I can't do it either, Carl and I like

687
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,480
those people too. I know a lot of the but

688
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
I can't do it. I know I've tried to. I

689
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,359
can't do it.

690
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,759
Speaker 2: This is Ozzie, Ozzie.

691
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Good news, Wolfy, he has a sex tape.

692
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 3: Also, have you seen all of these tim.

693
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I've not seen. I've not seen the Aussie one, but

694
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,839
I've I've heard about it. Ozzy's I think he is

695
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,800
best known as a challenge beast. He's incredible with challenges.

696
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,320
Almost every challenge he's good at, like catching fish, like

697
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,559
the serve, like the actual like surviving of like getting coconuts. Yeah,

698
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,760
I mean, like, because that's a big role that you're playing.

699
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Like you're getting the crabs, you're getting the fish, you're

700
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,000
getting the coconuts. Like, if you're a provider of things,

701
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,320
they want to keep you around. And he's good at that. Okay,

702
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,440
but he's much older than he's he's been. He's dumb.

703
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,039
He's dumb as ship. His main thing is that he

704
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:41,679
he's good at challenges. Yeah, he's real stupid, that's Ozzy.

705
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,519
Speaker 2: This guy, he's coach Benjamin, coach, Wade.

706
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: Coach you don't know, coach.

707
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there we go.

708
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: Ard.

709
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear Carl and ask what kind

710
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,119
of coaches he?

711
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I actually don't know what kind of

712
00:34:56,519 --> 00:35:01,039
coaches is he? Soccer? EDWARDO tell me soccer maybe?

713
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: Why why aren't his feet.

714
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: This guy's a fucking lunatic. Carlyn and Wolfee, uh go

715
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,440
back up to scroll back up to him. This guy's

716
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,800
a legit insane person. He's a he's there's something like

717
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,320
very wrong in his brain. I'm not kidding.

718
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: He he's familiar for some reason.

719
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,679
Speaker 1: The reason the reason I know about him or the like,

720
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,360
the main thing that I remember about him is on

721
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,480
his season. You know, there's a lot of just sitting

722
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,360
around chatting in this game, like there's nothing else to do.

723
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,800
You're just sort of sitting around, and that's where the

724
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,880
social game plays. And so they're sitting around this fire,

725
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,280
the whole team, and he's he sits back and he's like, guys,

726
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,239
I want to tell you something about me that you

727
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,559
know is very personal. I don't tell this many people,

728
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:44,280
but yeah, he's like, I used to like work for

729
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,119
the I'm gonna get some details wrong, but he's like,

730
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,159
I used to work for the CIA, And this one

731
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,719
time they flew me out in this like black ops mission,

732
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,800
and they dropped me in the middle of the Amazon

733
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239
to fucking do whatever the fuck. But this tribe came

734
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,400
out and was shooting arrows at me, and so I

735
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,760
swam and I got into a boat and they were

736
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,400
shooting arrows and I, you know, I went down a

737
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,159
waterfall and I you know, I made it out, but

738
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
scariest thing I've ever been through. I still have like

739
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:11,199
whatever issues from it. And everybody's looking at him like

740
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,199
what are you talking, Like there's no way any of

741
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,639
this is real, but hey, he kept confirming it, Like

742
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:19,320
every time they would ask him about it, he was like, yeah,

743
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,079
I don't know why you're questioning it. In fact, it

744
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,280
was worse than I told you. They ainally probed me

745
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,639
during this thing, and very weird. This guy's a very weird.

746
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,440
They brought him back from their season and he went

747
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,719
on this like kind of redemption island Esk thing. It

748
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,159
was like a punishment you had to like be seventy

749
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,599
two hours away from your tribe. And he came back

750
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,920
like he was, you know, had walked through the desert

751
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,400
like Jesus, and he was suffering and he's like laying

752
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,079
on a cane and he's like a very dramatic, strange person.

753
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,760
But he hasn't played in a long time. He's much

754
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,360
older now, so we'll see if he's less crazy. He's

755
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,320
crazier than I'm saying. You guys have to like look

756
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,960
at videos and this guy he's only in the sick.

757
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going into this completely blind. I'm not like

758
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:01,679
you have any I'm not gonna watch anything until after

759
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:02,440
the seasons done.

760
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:04,559
Speaker 1: Okay. I hope they have a flashback to some of

761
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,280
his lunacy because he's a nut. He's a complete nutcase.

762
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: He looks like he was on Loss. They would have

763
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,199
an episode about his tattoos.

764
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very like. He does these like poses on

765
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,039
the beach, like these like you know, kung fu ship.

766
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,880
He calls himself the Dragon Slayer. He's super weird guy

767
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,039
doing tai chi or what. Yeah, he said he has

768
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:26,719
a name for it.

769
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

770
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what he calls it, but sort of, yeah,

771
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,519
that sort of stuff.

772
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: You know.

773
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: He's very very weird dude, very weird guys.

774
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely has that.

775
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, strange guy. She looks like a teacher. Aubrey, she's

776
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,679
my girlfriend. If I would have a girlfriend on Surviver fifty,

777
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,840
it'd be Aubrey. Look at her. Pale skin, glasses, dark hair,

778
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,480
cute as shiit. She's great, very smart, looks.

779
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,599
Speaker 3: Like she teaches. She looks like miss Frizzle.

780
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very nice. Frizzle, brown hair, a girl next door. Cute,

781
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:04,840
she's super adorable. She's very cute. I'm rooting for her.

782
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,239
She's just very smart. I don't know. I don't have

783
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,480
much plays to say about her game.

784
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: She's known as a major strategic threat.

785
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Yes, very very smart, very strategic. Yeah, cute, cute as shit.

786
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: Christy Lady looks like a mom Chrissy.

787
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Frankly, I don't remember her from her season. I don't remember.

788
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: She won four community challenges, tying the record for the

789
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,159
most individual wins by a woman in the season.

790
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:41,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember her. This guy one of us

791
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,719
Christians the ship Dude, Christian's awesome. He's a super puzzle whiz,

792
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,239
super nerd, like unbelievably nerdy, definitely autistic, has no social

793
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400
skills at all. But it is like very charming in

794
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,000
his in his lack of social abilities, Like just very likable.

795
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,320
You know if you know those like nerdy guys that

796
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,880
are just so friendly nerdy that you just love them

797
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,559
even though they're nerdy, and you, you know, talk to

798
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,920
him on the challenge, Yes, yes, kind of kind of

799
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,880
even Oh yeah.

800
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I was like Mike Mike, Who the fuck is

801
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:13,920
Mike Mike?

802
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: Maybe like Mike Mike Squared. This guy's unbelievably nerdy like.

803
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: Like like some social cues.

804
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy knows social cues. He builds robots for

805
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
fun and for his job and ship. He's a he's

806
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,320
a he's but he's very charming, very very sweet guy,

807
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,400
very lovable, but nerdy and and no social awareness. He's great, right.

808
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,199
Speaker 2: So far in all the seasons I have the handful

809
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,920
of seasons I.

810
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,079
Speaker 1: Watched, I have not seen any of the you don't

811
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:49,599
know Christian Jelina and Angelina. She's also a very dramatic person.

812
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000
She's not known for being a good player. She's known

813
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:57,360
as she's a total goofball. So she is really well

814
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,639
known for voting out a player. And as the player

815
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,840
is leaving, she's begging her for for her coat, like

816
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480
hoping to like, because you know, want survivor, you don't

817
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,159
have anything, right, you're sleeping and so the coat would

818
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,039
have made him more comfortable. So she's just like, can

819
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,440
I have your coat? And the lady just like walked

820
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,760
off saying nothing to her, like didn't say no, didn't

821
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,760
acknowledge that she asked, but just kept asking, excuse me,

822
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,639
can I have your coat?

823
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

824
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,159
Speaker 1: Your coat?

825
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,519
Speaker 2: Coat?

826
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Your coat. It's very desperate and weird. That's the thing

827
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,400
I remember her most for. She's also on the White Lotus.

828
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,599
Speaking of here we go Mike White. Mike, what you

829
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:35,360
watched White Lotus?

830
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,639
Speaker 3: Carlin, I did not, but yeah, he does look familiar.

831
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: He is the creator of White Lotus. He's created some

832
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,320
other TV programming, but White Lotus is his big thing

833
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,159
right now. He started on Survivor. Now he's coming back

834
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:50,920
for the first time.

835
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he was famous before that. Even he was

836
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:56,960
in like School of Rock and he was a writer

837
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:57,599
and stuff.

838
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's where I know him from. Okay, I've seen

839
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,400
this guy's face before.

840
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: But now he's known for White Lotus and he because

841
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,840
he is a big Survivor fan slash player. He puts

842
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,039
a lot of Survivor people in White Lotus. So if

843
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,119
you are a Survivor fan and watch White Lotus, you

844
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,239
can catch them doing things. And Angelina was in White

845
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,079
Lotus because of him. Oh he's a great player too,

846
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:26,199
very very smart, very like engaging. And yeah, Mike White

847
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,280
is very charming and like a threat because of that.

848
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,639
Speaker 2: And then we have Jared from Subway Rick Devons.

849
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: What he looks like.

850
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's fucking sweetish shit everybody calls him Devon's

851
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,719
he's a newscaster, so he's got like that persona very

852
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,239
lovable and he is known because everybody wanted to vote

853
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,760
him out, and he kept like winning challenges, finding communities.

854
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,400
He kept like just scraping by by the skin of

855
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,000
his teeth. Staying in the game. Was definitely for sure

856
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,760
gonna win the game. Except Chris, who we just talked about,

857
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,199
came back from Mageic Extinction and took him out at

858
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,360
fire making. So this guy's a big threat. I really

859
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,719
think he's a big threat to win the whole thing.

860
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,199
He's just like a very very cool guy. Devin's okay.

861
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,440
Jonathan Jonathan, well, for you know, Jonathan, He's Jonathan.

862
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,639
Speaker 2: Season forty two. Jonathan is a fucking beast, is what

863
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,920
he is. Look at number. The dude was like six'

864
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,599
five or. Something, yeah and he was good at all

865
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,239
the physical. Challenge. Yep and from what we saw what

866
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,199
they presented to us on the, show seems like a

867
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,480
super nice guy. Too.

868
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah also dumbest shit, though.

869
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Also dumbest shit and ALSO i think that kind of

870
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,639
worked against them. Eventually, yeah and they had to start

871
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,800
whittling people out and they're like he's gonna win too,

872
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,159
much so they loaded them. Out but, yeah this is

873
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,360
the guy that me And tim were was crossing our

874
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,360
fingers would cross us over to the challenge because we

875
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,639
think he would be really good at.

876
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: It oh my, god as would do well.

877
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: In the physical challenges because he was a. Monster, yeah, yeah.

878
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: He's One Carly and they were doing this challenge in the.

879
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,280
Water it was like a five person per team. Challenge three.

880
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,599
Teams they're doing this challenge in the. Water we had

881
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,400
to like swim out to something and grab some. Shit

882
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,039
your whole team had to do, this grab, whatever pull

883
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:30,880
a ladder. Up. Uh these strong waves started coming in

884
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,239
that the production didn't didn't. Expect these strong waves started

885
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,079
coming in that the other, team the other two teams

886
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:41,239
couldn't finish the. Challenge this motherfucker did basically the whole

887
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,840
thing all by, himself grabbing every other team, member pulling

888
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,000
them along to do, it throwing them up ladders and,

889
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:51,559
stuff and beasted through this whole thing that literally no

890
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,280
other team could. Do and he did it all by.

891
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,199
Himself it was a remarkable fucking.

892
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: CHALLENGE i. Think wasn't that they finished It and then

893
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,920
eventually production was, Like, hey we gotta everybody. Stopped we

894
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,440
got to. Stop these waves are too. Much and the

895
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,400
other two teams didn't have to fulfill that part of.

896
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: It, yeah and they had already finished because of.

897
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Him beast mooted his way through.

898
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:18,039
Speaker 1: It so, yeah crazy remarkable, guy, Indeed carl.

899
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 3: Who, well she hooked up With, Johnny BUT i take that.

900
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:25,039
BACK i don't actually know that she hooked up hooked

901
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,760
up With Johnny, bananas but she at least like digmatized.

902
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:35,320
Him she was kind of, crazy she. WAS i don't

903
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,159
remember a whole lot about. HER i was not a

904
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,280
huge fan Of first.

905
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: She was didn't uh, wasn't didn't will hook up with?

906
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,559
Speaker 3: Her and then, like, yeah they you, know they hooked

907
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,239
up and they had they had a thing going for

908
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,280
the two days that they were in the hotel prior

909
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,639
to the. Show, yeah and then he really bluckered about

910
00:44:57,639 --> 00:44:58,280
it for like half the.

911
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,119
Speaker 2: Season and apparently she won season forty five Of.

912
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: Survivor, yep she's a.

913
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,079
Speaker 3: Winner she doesn't strike me as someone who would Win.

914
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,960
Survivor she, WELL i mean they're all like seeing her

915
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,599
on the on the challenge side of. THINGS i just

916
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,639
DON'T i have a hard time imagining her living on an,

917
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:20,800
island like fighting to have food and clothes and.

918
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Shit, so from WHAT i remember of her, season she

919
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,840
had a guy Named austin Am i right on that

920
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,960
had water and stove who was just sort of obsessed

921
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,960
with her and she sort of knew.

922
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,639
Speaker 3: It and, oh so she finds these guys on all

923
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:37,239
the shows that she's.

924
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,119
Speaker 1: ON i really think that's part of her. Game she's

925
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:42,800
just a very, charming sweet. Person BUT i Don't i'm

926
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,480
also not all that impressed by. Her she's got very long.

927
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,760
TOES i know that monkey. TOEST i hope they bring

928
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,760
that up on the. Show she won a.

929
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: Challenge on the bring that up in her first.

930
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Season they have a challenge On survivors are relatively consistent

931
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:56,960
when we have to like hang on to a pole

932
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:58,840
for as long as you. Can and she did really

933
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,480
good at it because she had these monkey toes that

934
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,360
could grab this like tiny little. Ledge and then, yeah

935
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,920
they were doing something else on the. SEASON i can't

936
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,960
recall with her. Toes it's got long.

937
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,119
Speaker 2: Toes do you think they'll make fun of her for

938
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,639
sleeping With Johnny? BANANAS i sure hope so.

939
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 1: Yep, Oh, Emily emily did you watch this, season WILLE

940
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,119
i did watch this.

941
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Season she played with D and was it she the

942
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:31,280
one who was openly she like openly autistic or. Something,

943
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:33,800
no she's just super.

944
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: Awkward she was super, awkward super. Uncomfortable, yeah, yes she

945
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:41,800
was really sort of her the first half of her,

946
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,360
season she was really. Abrasive but, yes that's what it.

947
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,719
Was she was this close to being voted, out AND

948
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,519
i don't remember what saved. Her maybe it was a

949
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,400
medical evac or something saved her that she was, like holy,

950
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,719
SHIT i was gonna get voted. OUT i better turn this.

951
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,519
Around and then she got like super warm and super

952
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,079
engaging and super like in the last half of her,

953
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:04,360
season to the point like the first two, EPISODES i

954
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,280
could not wait till they voted her, out and by

955
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,400
the END i loved, her AND i, LIKE i was

956
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,840
so disappointed when she.

957
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,119
Speaker 2: Left IF i, remember she's, like somebody would say something

958
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,519
and she would spend like the next half an hour

959
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,360
explaining why what they said wasn't, correct and she would

960
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,519
break down like it's actually this and it's paused by

961
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:28,760
this and this is the, reason and everybody's like nobody. Cares,

962
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,039
yeah this is a game where we all lie to each,

963
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:31,639
other it doesn't.

964
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:34,559
Speaker 1: Matter, yeah very very.

965
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,079
Speaker 2: Unlikable, yeah she had to figure that out and then was,

966
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,800
like oh, SHIT i need to completely readjust my. Gameplayer

967
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,639
i'm gonna get smoked on this. One she's. Great uh this,

968
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,679
guy he's forty. Six.

969
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Cue, yeah here's another. LUNATIC i can't wait to see

970
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,760
what this guy. Does he's, crazy.

971
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 3: Is the sorry he reminded me Of this is the,

972
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,079
barbecue not the, barbecue the.

973
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:06,199
Speaker 2: Cookout, okay that's second Time i've done.

974
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,199
Speaker 1: That but isn't that guy that WAS? X, Yes, yes

975
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,480
that's why that WAS i had the same YES X

976
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,280
and this is C. Uh he's also. LUNATIC I. I

977
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,360
the only THING i can remember of him is he

978
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,800
he wore a hoodie back like, uh like around his

979
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,599
waist but, backwards so the hood was in front of

980
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:29,400
like in front of his, crotch and he like that

981
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:30,079
was the key.

982
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: Style he would use it to like carry stuff.

983
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,039
Speaker 1: Though coconuts and stuff like. That, yeah he had he

984
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:36,400
called it a skirt or so it was like the

985
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,199
Q q skirt or something that something like. That but

986
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,000
also very.

987
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: He's one of those people that thought he was running

988
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
everything until he found out that he had been played

989
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:46,280
the entire. Game.

990
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he's a fun, character but, yeah crazy. Guy.

991
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh tiffany the same, season she was one of

992
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,880
the people that's, like this dude is, crazy need to

993
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,480
get him out of.

994
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: Here is she on the? Trailer, no there's someone else

995
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,480
On The traders this. Season there's someone On The traders

996
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,760
this season Named tiffany WHO i thought was From. Survivor

997
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,519
But tiffany is a relatively common.

998
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: Name so New, York New.

999
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: York, no Not New York, Tiffany.

1000
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:14,519
Speaker 1: No New.

1001
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 3: York tiffany is On House, villains AND i Think tyson

1002
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,880
is On house Of villains with.

1003
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Her yeah yeah he. Is, Yeah survivor And The Challenge yeah.

1004
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:27,079
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't remember swore swore he would never go

1005
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:27,920
back to The challenge.

1006
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: Ever, AGAIN i don't blame. HIM i mean the season

1007
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,840
that he competed, in like THE usa season was such. Bullshit.

1008
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:40,639
Speaker 2: YEAH i remember her being, likable pretty, good BUT i

1009
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:40,960
like her.

1010
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Hair, YEAH i don't remember anything notable about. Her, Frankly,

1011
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:52,920
Charlie charlie's, Amazing charlie Loves Taylor. SWIFT i remember That

1012
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,079
charlie made it to the final Three carlin and the

1013
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:02,360
final four his best ally it's one Named maria was

1014
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,119
his number one. Ally he they those two worked together

1015
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:06,960
as long as they. Could But maria was voted out

1016
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,159
at four and so she was on the jury to

1017
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,960
vote the, winner and everybody thought That maria would vote

1018
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:17,480
For charlie because they'd, worked you, Know But maria was

1019
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,119
so fucking butt hurt that she voted Against, charlie and

1020
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,519
So charlie. Lost IF i have memory, Serves charlie lost

1021
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,880
by that one. Vote that sucks second place so and

1022
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,760
second place doesn't get fucking jack. Shit so he's coming

1023
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,800
back with something to, prove but also a big threat

1024
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,639
because people do love him and he almost won the,

1025
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:35,199
game SO i think are going to be kind of

1026
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:35,840
like she.

1027
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: Was voted out by him in.

1028
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: The LAST i actually don't remember who voted her out

1029
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,519
but or if he voted her, out BUT i MEAN.

1030
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: I think he, did AND i think he knew it

1031
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480
was happening and didn't warn, her WHICH i think is

1032
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:50,000
what she do.

1033
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,639
Speaker 1: ANYTHING i don't remember the details on any of this.

1034
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Those four seasons, ago AND i think that's the last

1035
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,320
SEASON i, watched SO i don't.

1036
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,079
Speaker 1: Remember, yeah and unlike The, challenge WHERE i watch every

1037
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,760
episode twice and then talk about it. EXTENSIVELY i only

1038
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,119
watch every episode of The challenge Of survivor, Once so

1039
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:10,079
there's a LOT i do not remember just for this.

1040
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: Season you're gonna do.

1041
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:13,639
Speaker 1: It, yeah this, season the whatever two or, three that's

1042
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,119
probably the ONES i remember because of the ones THAT

1043
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:20,239
i Was, zach you, Know survivor WHAT i talked about it, Again but, ANYWAY.

1044
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: I remember this dude being cool. Hit there was him

1045
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,199
and then there was like a metalhead. Guy they were

1046
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,519
on the same, team, yes and they would sit and

1047
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,079
play like a musical, challenge like you have to name

1048
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,000
like a metallic the other, guy, yeah you have to

1049
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,400
name a song that begins with like the last letter

1050
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,039
of the song the previous person said or. Something and

1051
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,679
it was him who Loves Taylor swift and this metal

1052
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,360
head guy who Loves, metallica and they would just go

1053
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,800
back and forth like playing. This and it's one of

1054
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,960
those where like it entertained everybody else because there's jack

1055
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:58,360
shit to do on these islands. Otherwise but it's one

1056
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,760
of those where they just kept fading, between like them

1057
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
playing because it to make it seem like that's all

1058
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,719
they did for like an, hour and like because they

1059
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,320
were both so good at. It so, Yeah charlie is

1060
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,880
a lot of. Fun.

1061
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jenny jenny so, beautifully so. PRETTY i don't remember

1062
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:20,199
anything about her.

1063
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,119
Speaker 3: Game she kind of looks Like Emily.

1064
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: Shrum she does kind of did a big, smile, huge

1065
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:26,400
the big.

1066
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,559
Speaker 3: Teeth, yeah lots of.

1067
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,199
Speaker 1: Teeth, oh, Definitely Jessica biel in.

1068
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 4: There.

1069
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1070
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah and Also jody.

1071
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: Is a good. One, yes old School. Jody, yeah, same

1072
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,519
the big, smile the big in the. Dimples. YEAH i

1073
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:42,280
don't remember her, game.

1074
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: Frankly, yeah she was on season forty, seven WHICH i

1075
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:52,440
don't THINK i. Watched and This Lady camillilla season WHICH

1076
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:52,760
i didn't.

1077
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: Know she's crazy As. CAMILLA i don't.

1078
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: REMEMBER i don't. Remember next, yeah, frankly, NO i don't

1079
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,639
remember anything about.

1080
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 2: Her this Is kyle From.

1081
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,679
Speaker 1: Winner you, know season forty? Eight, uh just, again which

1082
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,159
is a very likable. Guy Most winners are a very,

1083
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:14,719
likable charming. Guy and that's kind of ALL i.

1084
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:23,599
Speaker 2: REMEMBER i think he has a musical Note Thomas, yeah, yeah.

1085
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: Is he the one who ran into the? Poll?

1086
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: No this Is Joseph Joe. Hunter joe's third season, four he.

1087
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: Did he's the. One well for you mentioned the autistic One,

1088
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,760
Eva he's the one that really bonded with, her like

1089
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,599
a father daughter style. Relationship that to, me it was very.

1090
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:45,639
ENDEARING i loved that part of. Him other than, THAT

1091
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,800
i think this guy's just boring a. SHIP i think

1092
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,800
he's dull and just kind of try hard and kind of.

1093
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,320
Dramatic And i'm not a Big joe. GUY i know

1094
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,199
a lot of The internet Likes. JOE i don't Like, Joe.

1095
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: SO i only skipped one.

1096
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Seas you didn't watch this one With joe And?

1097
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: Eva, no BECAUSE i remember the autistic. Girl now that

1098
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,920
you bring that, UP i didn't realize that was season forty.

1099
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: Eight, yeah that was the one that that was His,

1100
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,800
yeah they had that, big that.

1101
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 2: Connection, YEAH i THOUGHT i had stopped watching for a.

1102
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:20,639
While it was the only one. Season Oh god really

1103
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:22,679
was all?

1104
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Right Zgod, Baby, god he's. AWESOME i love this. Guy,

1105
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:33,039
yeah he's. Great goofball guy, Twelve, yeah goofball guy but plays,

1106
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:39,519
hard plays, serious really, funny and is like. Confessionals, YES

1107
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,559
i love this. Guy i'm really rooting for. Him, yeah young,

1108
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:47,079
guy a lot of. Fun savannah last season, winner season

1109
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:49,119
forty nine, winners so we just saw. Her we just

1110
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,760
saw her, win and she's back. Again also a former

1111
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,159
newscaster Like, devin's so we got two newscasters on this.

1112
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:59,239
SEASON i did not like. HER i thought she was

1113
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,079
VERY i didn't like her. PERSONALITY i thought she was

1114
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,480
very like abrasive the whole. SEASON i was actually kind

1115
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,199
of surprised she. WON i did not find her. LIKABLE i,

1116
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:15,960
yeah that's me And, savannah all.

1117
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: Right it's kind of surprising that they brought her back so,

1118
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:19,920
immediately especially if she.

1119
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Won i'm kind of surprised. Too they have two people

1120
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,639
from forty, nine two or three from forty, Eight like

1121
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:27,800
there's it's very heavily weighted in the later.

1122
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: Seasons, YEAH i noticed that there are a Few there

1123
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:33,599
are a few people from earlier, seasons but then it

1124
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:37,360
seems like everyone from fifty seems to be mainly like

1125
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,079
have played in the last you, know ten years or

1126
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,239
not ten, years but like five. YEARS i, MEAN i,

1127
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,960
guess is it one season a?

1128
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: Year two, okay two?

1129
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,519
Speaker 2: Years it's sort of like how the challenge used to.

1130
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:52,599
Speaker 3: Be, yeah, uh and that is.

1131
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:54,199
Speaker 2: It that is our cast of season.

1132
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Fifty, okay so we'll see how it. GOES i know

1133
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:03,199
that they're in three tribes, again but there are too

1134
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,199
many players for thirteen, episodes and as far AS i,

1135
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:06,880
know there's never been a season Of survivor more than.

1136
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Thirteen so there's gonna be a few episodes where they're

1137
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,159
voting out more than One i'm, guessing or there's semitivacs

1138
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,480
or something like.

1139
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,079
Speaker 3: That, hey, well if you, can you change the screen

1140
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,599
so it doesn't switch every time someone starts talking.

1141
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:27,159
Speaker 2: No thank, you, Uh duardo. Says Supposedly jeff pushed for

1142
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,519
more new era people instead of old.

1143
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: School that's because they WANT i assume it's just because

1144
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,000
they want to start kind of getting new guard in

1145
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:38,199
kind of like what The challenge has tried to, do

1146
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,360
but they keep failing at it because all the new

1147
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,079
people they bring in.

1148
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,639
Speaker 1: Suck, yeah it's hard balance to strike, because, yeah you

1149
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,719
like the old like THAT'S i like the old. Stuff

1150
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,199
that's Why i'm. Watching, yeah well that.

1151
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,079
Speaker 3: Happened, like The challenge is so dependent on these older,

1152
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,559
players these players that we've seen for years and years

1153
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:57,840
and years and just keep coming back every season that

1154
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,800
it's hard to to replace, them to get someone new

1155
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,559
in there. S, yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be.

1156
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, yeah be fun season.

1157
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: Excited so what have you learned so far the, Season

1158
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,960
carlin that you are excited to see play out on the.

1159
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,599
Speaker 3: Show i'm looking forward, to, like actually seeing the gameplay,

1160
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:24,519
happen just because The challenge has gameplay in. It but

1161
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,880
part of the reason WHY i love Watching The challenge

1162
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,840
is because some of the challenges that they do are

1163
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,280
just so fucking. Cool, yeah like the crazy shit that

1164
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,599
they get to, do hang out of helicopters and climbing

1165
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:39,239
up mountains and you, know all of that shit hanging

1166
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:42,559
off of buildings is just so cool that that's part

1167
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,519
of the reason WHY i love watching that. Show, yeah

1168
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,559
but It's, yeah the gameplay on, it, though, liked it's

1169
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:53,400
it's full of so many, stupid, stupid stupid. People The

1170
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,880
challenge gameplay usually isn't very. GOOD i, mean there are

1171
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,840
bits and pieces of it that, are and a lot

1172
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,199
of it tends to be very very heavily to these,

1173
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:07,239
people to the vets versus the. Rookies So i'm looking

1174
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,519
forward to watching a show where it's not weighted quite

1175
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,639
so heavily to Like i've done fifteen seasons and you've

1176
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:16,119
only done.

1177
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Two there's none of, That, Carlyn how do you feel

1178
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:29,400
about a show with basically zero drama in terms of like, hookups, relationships, partying, drinking, yelling.

1179
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,599
Screaming those are very rare In.

1180
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: Survivor i'm gonna miss the drama a little bit because,

1181
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,239
SOMETIMES i, mean we have had seasons of The challenge

1182
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,199
where there haven't really been a lot of, hookups but

1183
00:58:41,239 --> 00:58:44,719
you still get that like someone's being overly dramatic about. Something,

1184
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,960
yeah most of the time because they' shit.

1185
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: FACED i still will get some of. That, yeah there's

1186
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,199
a lot of people pair, Up like people are like

1187
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,679
me and. You alliances will form me and you will

1188
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,719
go to the end or, whatever and then like someone

1189
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:02,480
else on the team will do something and she'd be,

1190
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,840
like oh my, God rob came over and he was

1191
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,159
being a total, Dick like why would he even be that?

1192
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:10,840
Way so there's like gossiping and, stuff and, yeah people

1193
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,719
trying to flip other people's votes and like all kinds of.

1194
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,960
Stuff so, yeah but at a little bit of, that

1195
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,280
but not like the craziness that is The.

1196
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: Challenge, yeah almost no, hookups almost zero. Relationships, EVER i

1197
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,519
mean those are very, rare very.

1198
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:27,039
Speaker 2: Rare there.

1199
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,519
Speaker 3: WAS i, mean what part of part of WHAT i

1200
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:31,760
love about the is, that like you know that like

1201
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,239
half the house is going to start hooking up with

1202
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:36,440
each other because they're all just horny and. Ridiculous so

1203
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,599
that is kind of fun because it adds that extra

1204
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:41,960
element of like stupid relationship drama that you don't actually,

1205
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:43,360
need that we all know is not going to actually

1206
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,599
last outside the house type of. Thing so it'll be

1207
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,639
a little upset to not see, that But i'm just

1208
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:49,280
looking forward to like seeing a new.

1209
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Game, yeah there was that super nerdy couple Though tim

1210
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,679
a couple of seasons. Ago it was like The asian

1211
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,440
guy and the other. Girl they were both, like there's

1212
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:03,079
the nerdiest people you've ever.

1213
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Seen rachel was the. GIRL i don't remember the.

1214
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: Immediately we're just like magnetized to each, other and you

1215
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,480
were just, LIKE i hope these nerves get. Together apparently

1216
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,039
they did after the, show BUT i you, KNOW i

1217
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:17,719
don't really paid that much, attension.

1218
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: But it's probably smart thing to do it after the.

1219
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,079
Show it was a big part of the season of

1220
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:23,760
just like you would see them walk like we were obviously,

1221
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,000
connected but we've got to stay apart from each other

1222
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:28,719
because if we're too close to the rest of the

1223
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,519
team sees as a, threat like we can't. Talk so

1224
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:35,960
that was a very uh, yeah very interesting.

1225
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: Dynamic Is Boston rob From Survivor okay.

1226
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,639
Speaker 2: Not on this?

1227
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: Season, yeah me. TOO i bet. HE i bet he

1228
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,639
comes back to present something or you, know like there's

1229
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:49,199
no way they're going to leave him that. ENTIRELY i bet.

1230
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:53,239
Speaker 3: He he was on last season Of The, Traders, yeah.

1231
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: Because there was a season right WHEN i started watching

1232
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
that it was all new, people but then they.

1233
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,639
Speaker 3: Brought in heavy.

1234
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Hitters, well, no they would send off people like if

1235
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,239
you won a certain prize or, whatever they'd send you

1236
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,320
off to a different part of the, Island island of The,

1237
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,199
Idols island of The. Idols and it turned out That rob.

1238
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: And what was the other girl's, Name, Sondra.

1239
01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:25,079
Speaker 2: Sondra we're both hanging out, there and they essentially would

1240
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:29,800
teach you things that you need to Win, survivor and

1241
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,000
then people would come back and not tell other people

1242
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:32,360
what it.

1243
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,719
Speaker 1: Was that was the Season tommy won k if you

1244
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:39,280
Remember tommy from The Challenge redhead And tommy that he

1245
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,239
won that season Of. Survivor he needed two seasons of the.

1246
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,639
Challenge he like was the one where he like he

1247
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,320
like climbed out of water naked or. Something remember, That,

1248
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,199
Yeah moore talking about his dick swinging around and.

1249
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:54,599
Speaker 3: Ship, yeah and he like didn't he have like a head?

1250
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:57,000
Injured he? Was he was acting really delirious WHEN.

1251
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,679
Speaker 1: I was injured that that same exact challenge already lost his.

1252
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: Time he was.

1253
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,159
Speaker 1: Injured that's why he's walking down his dick. Swing and

1254
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:04,519
it wasn't like trying to put his pants up or.

1255
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:05,880
Whatever he was concussed or.

1256
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,639
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i don't remember. What, yeah it must have been a. Concussion,

1257
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,840
YEAH i don't remember why it happened, though.

1258
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,079
Speaker 1: He diving into water or.

1259
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:17,519
Speaker 2: Something, YEAH edwardo wants to know if we were talking

1260
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:18,199
About franny And.

1261
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: Matt that sounds, right THOUGHT i thought it Was. Rachel,

1262
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,519
yeah that sounds right.

1263
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: Though he wants to Know, carlin just from this, rundown

1264
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,920
do you have someone you've eyed, LIKE i think this

1265
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:35,039
may be the person who can.

1266
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:39,159
Speaker 1: Win, yeah let's, remember let's get winter picks right. Away

1267
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:42,760
we'll BE i had.

1268
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,559
Speaker 3: TRUTH i don't even remember one of the Names i'm

1269
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:48,360
going TO i have absolutely no.

1270
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,199
Speaker 1: Idea all, right well if you got to share your screen.

1271
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:52,360
Again But i'm Going. Devon's, well while we wait for,

1272
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,960
That i'm Going. Devon's, uh the newscaster, guy the goofball

1273
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:58,079
newscaster guy that was a threat to win his. SEASON

1274
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,480
i think HE'S i Think i'm gonna go.

1275
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:13,039
Speaker 4: Him Jenny, Uh Stephanie Sie, SIE i think she's gonna

1276
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:15,320
win just because she wants.

1277
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: Traders and.

1278
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: Isn't she that she was the one who it was

1279
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,199
like the best player that's never. Won is that the one.

1280
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: That, yeah it's just like the, challenge the. Threats you

1281
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,679
want to take the threats, out and she's not great at,

1282
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,719
challenges so she's probably not gonna. Win immunity when when

1283
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,800
people are threatened by, HER i think they're probably gonna

1284
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,119
be able to get her. Out and we'll see.

1285
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: Though ozzie he was really, dumb, right, yeah.

1286
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: Dumbest ship and he can't win as many. Challenges much older,

1287
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,639
Now Benjamin, coach he's the crazy, guy but, older, Wiser

1288
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:54,639
maybe he's recovered from his. Insanity, aubrey my super cute, nerds. Sweetheart,

1289
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,039
ah look at, her she's so.

1290
01:03:56,079 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: Pretty, MOM i feel like she's gonna get out.

1291
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: St, Christians christian Love.

1292
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: Christian. Yeah uh that Girl Angelina.

1293
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:16,079
Speaker 2: Angelina Mike Mike, white mm.

1294
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:20,679
Speaker 3: Hmm Benjamin, okay so that's who you think here is gonna?

1295
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:24,119
Speaker 1: Win tim, right that's my, Guy. Devon's i'm Going, Devon's.

1296
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 7: Jonathan Dum. Emily emily is my number. TWO i hope

1297
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:35,360
she makes it real far.

1298
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: You, Uh, TIFFANY i don't remember anybody's, Name, Charlie, jenny

1299
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:53,840
Just Jessica. Bielle, uh, WELL.

1300
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:56,159
Speaker 6: I Remember.

1301
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:59,199
Speaker 1: CAMILLA i Think camilla And kyle who you're gonna go over?

1302
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:01,599
NEXT i think they work really really closely. Together so

1303
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:02,599
we've got to watch them as a.

1304
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:06,039
Speaker 2: Pair is It kamala Or Camilla?

1305
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:06,639
Speaker 1: Camilla?

1306
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: Okay? Kyle?

1307
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: Uh Yoe rizzo Got Joe?

1308
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,079
Speaker 2: Rizzo alz g o t.

1309
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: Baby and Then i'm Gonna i'm gonna stick with my

1310
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,599
with My surrey.

1311
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: Just just, because.

1312
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:25,639
Speaker 2: Just stick With.

1313
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:29,559
Speaker 1: Suri, alright you're gonna Lave carlon just? Wait, yeah who

1314
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:29,880
you going?

1315
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: With i'm gonna hope For. Emily anything else we'll. See

1316
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,559
and THEN i really Want jonathan to, win but, again

1317
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,400
he's kind of, dumb SO i don't know if His

1318
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,639
Social game will survive for twenty six straight.

1319
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:50,199
Speaker 3: Days, yeah, okay so can we can we also do

1320
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,199
after after episode? One can we do this? Again do a?

1321
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: Revision?

1322
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:57,119
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean it doesn't have to be a. Revision

1323
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,159
just LIKE i want to see if my if my,

1324
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:03,840
answer how my answer changes between now and seeing the first.

1325
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,000
Episode it's more.

1326
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,519
Speaker 1: Fun it's more fun to forget who you picked right,

1327
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:09,199
now and then we'll listen again at the end of

1328
01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:11,039
the season and see what see what you?

1329
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:16,719
Speaker 2: Picked, yea all the writers who interviewed the. Contestants Then

1330
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,400
coach will.

1331
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,079
Speaker 1: Win why, SO i read a theory that Because coach

1332
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:24,880
is such a, lunatic everybody thinks he's not a. Threat

1333
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:28,159
but that's who you want to take with. You that's the, goat,

1334
01:06:28,239 --> 01:06:29,559
right you want to take the one that's not a.

1335
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:33,159
Threat so If coach can sell himself as look at

1336
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:35,760
How i've, Grown i'm not as crazy AS i used to,

1337
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,480
be AND i got pulled to the, end that's a

1338
01:06:38,519 --> 01:06:41,400
convincing case for a, jury you know WHAT i. Mean

1339
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,079
if you're sitting on the jury thinking like that's a

1340
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:45,280
smart way to win this fucking. Game just be dragged

1341
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,679
to the. End i'll vote for.

1342
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:50,599
Speaker 3: You BUT i feel LIKE i IF i were on the,

1343
01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:52,840
tury LIKE i, DON'T i don't want to just fucking

1344
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:53,800
vote for a CUT mla.

1345
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: Up that's some. Bullshit, yeah this is this is.

1346
01:06:57,239 --> 01:07:00,599
Speaker 3: My challenge brain coming in of, like you didn't do

1347
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:02,719
shit this. Season you literally got DRUG i. DON'T i

1348
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:03,320
don't want you.

1349
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,039
Speaker 1: Here. Yeah so there was there's a very famous, Player

1350
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,719
russell that that was his game is he very aggressively

1351
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,400
played the game and when he voted people, out he

1352
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,400
didn't give a. Shit that's called jury. Management by the

1353
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,239
way of jury management means like you want to keep

1354
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:19,159
the people on your. Side he did zero jury, management

1355
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:21,920
thinking the jury will just respect my. GAME i can

1356
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:24,880
just say, like fuck, you. GUYS i did this BECAUSE

1357
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,360
i wanted to win the. Game fuck, you but the

1358
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,280
jury his. Goal Russell hansey was very very famous On

1359
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,840
survivor for a brief minute because he was such he

1360
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,599
changed the game in a very big. Way he was

1361
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:38,320
the first one like old school old school.

1362
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,719
Speaker 3: Seasons, YEAH i.

1363
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:42,119
Speaker 1: Think season nineteen and twenty he played two in a.

1364
01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:44,440
ROW i think it was nineteen and twenty, Maybe but

1365
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:47,400
he was the first one found in community idols with no,

1366
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:49,639
clues so he changed the game in that way of,

1367
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:51,519
LIKE i don't have to wait for a, CLUE i

1368
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:53,559
can just fucking look for these, things and then he

1369
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,800
found them and that's how he got very far in the.

1370
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,840
Game but it turns out that he was the go

1371
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,559
by playing such an aggress dickhead. Game he pulled somebody

1372
01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:04,920
along that was very likable and very charming and very,

1373
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,199
friendly that made no. Enemies so she ended up winning

1374
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,840
and she didn't have to do. Much she just sort

1375
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,880
of got pulled. Along That's. Natalie so, yes there's many

1376
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,159
ways to win this.

1377
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: Game natalie who was on the. Challenge.

1378
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,279
Speaker 1: Natalie no Another, natalie very, blonde Pretty natalie that took

1379
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,279
that money and we never saw any of her again.

1380
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,840
EVER i don't think she has like social. Media million. Bucks,

1381
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,439
oh this is, fifty SO i bet it's a big.

1382
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,920
One forty was two, million SO i bet fifty might

1383
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,279
be a bigger cash. Price we'll.

1384
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,119
Speaker 3: See have they always won a million?

1385
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: Dollars?

1386
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:42,279
Speaker 1: Yes in season one it seems like with inflation has,

1387
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,680
INCREASED i know they should increase that shit per. Year,

1388
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,359
guys are we such boring adults for?

1389
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 3: Inflation?

1390
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: Capitalism fucking. Patriarch he's ruining.

1391
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 3: Everything you're winning a million.

1392
01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:59,520
Speaker 2: Dollars the guy Won Richard hatch the first. Season didn't

1393
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,439
he get a tax trouble BECAUSE.

1394
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:05,319
Speaker 1: I didn't Pick texas on. It it got Fucked and

1395
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,159
then he came back and sexually abused a lady on.

1396
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:09,039
Camera they've never been invited back.

1397
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: Again, yeah there's that SEASON a couple of seasons. Ago

1398
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,640
was that was that guy's name kept like trying to

1399
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,760
cuddle with people where they were.

1400
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,359
Speaker 1: SLEEPING i think that was The island of The. IDOLS

1401
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,680
i think it Was Dan maybe that was. That that

1402
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,319
was the Season tommy. Won that was a that was.

1403
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,399
Gross that was a gross sort of like subplot of.

1404
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 3: That they pull him from the.

1405
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: Island, yeah, eventually but it took a couple of. Warnings

1406
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,279
it was a Bad it was a Bad it was

1407
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:41,760
a whole bad.

1408
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,239
Speaker 3: Deal, yeah that's hitting a little like extra bad right

1409
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,119
now BECAUSE i just watched to veer into a completely

1410
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:54,239
different topic real. Quick netflix just released their three part

1411
01:09:54,319 --> 01:10:00,920
documentary series On America's Next Top, model AND i apparently

1412
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,279
had completely blocked this, out but LIKE i watched every

1413
01:10:03,319 --> 01:10:07,239
single season religiously loved, It LIKE i was the same

1414
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:10,640
age as half of these girls when vibe like awful

1415
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,960
awful Offul all of these women are super skinny and all.

1416
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,479
This but in the second, season one of the contestants

1417
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,720
like they they're in their apartment in Like milan or

1418
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,039
something like, that and they're all drinking and they're all

1419
01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:25,960
they all weigh like one hundred, pounds have nothing on,

1420
01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:29,239
them they're super, skinny and she just gets black out

1421
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:32,840
drunk and ends up sleeping with some, guy which when

1422
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,640
you were black out, drunk you can't. Consent so they

1423
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,920
basically filmed all of this happening and no one ever stepped,

1424
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,560
in and it just She you see her completely breaking

1425
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,199
down about it the next day because she like she

1426
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:47,880
thought that she had and they played it all off

1427
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,159
like she cheated and uh with uh like her call

1428
01:10:52,199 --> 01:10:54,920
to her, boyfriend and you see all of. It they

1429
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,039
showed all of it ON, tv and it's just it's

1430
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:01,279
wild to be, like oh my, god that shit that.

1431
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,359
Was they didn't even they didn't even bother to, like,

1432
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,000
hey maybe you guys shouldn't go and do this type of.

1433
01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:10,960
Thing so the hearing that that's, happening but some dude

1434
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:13,079
is trying to like cuddle with people in their sleep

1435
01:11:13,159 --> 01:11:16,560
where someone's sexually assaulting someone else ON, tv like it's

1436
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,359
just it's it's.

1437
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: Insane, yeah he. Was he was like he was one

1438
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,760
that was just very handsy that. Could he tried to

1439
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,960
play it off as, like, Oh i'm just a very affectionate.

1440
01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:30,439
Person so he would give people.

1441
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:32,119
Speaker 3: Like, person don't touch my.

1442
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:35,399
Speaker 1: Person that's The that was the thing is that when you,

1443
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,600
know he would go and start massaging and they'd be

1444
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,920
like just like just stop doing, that like don't touch.

1445
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,000
Me but he you, know and this is again like

1446
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,640
thirteen fourteen seasons, ago but you know it was he

1447
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,720
played it off as, like, Hey i'm just Like i'm being.

1448
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,159
Nice i'm just trying to like you looked tense or,

1449
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:54,399
whatever and he tried to play it off as Like

1450
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,960
i'm not a. Pervert i'm just nice and that that

1451
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,439
can float for a, minute you, know after enough warnings,

1452
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,359
though it's like you're a pervert. Now.

1453
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah he shows me that one time footage while everybody

1454
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:08,760
was sleeping and he was like trying to like spoon

1455
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,000
with people and, stuff and they were just like no're

1456
01:12:12,039 --> 01:12:13,239
not gonna be. Good.

1457
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah but he would play it office LIKE i

1458
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,800
was sleeping and, like you, Know i'm used to my

1459
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,840
wife OR i was just. Warmth but you know you

1460
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,439
just sort of like you just because he was like

1461
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,720
fifty something, no, yeah and like late fifties, maybe and

1462
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,520
seemed kind of, harmless as like just a harmless kind of,

1463
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,760
guy you, know LIKE i had like you didn't.

1464
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,399
Speaker 3: Have it's harmless when it's like a you go when

1465
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,880
you you start massaging someone's back once or like you

1466
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,039
happen to turn over and like start spooning with someone, once,

1467
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,840
right but if it goes on more than, that it's

1468
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,840
not harmless. Anymore that's exactly that thing you are purposefully

1469
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:50,319
doing this.

1470
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: Issue, yes a good.

1471
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: Point didn't one player really complain about? Him but they

1472
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,359
didn't kick him out until he touched the production assistant.

1473
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,520
Speaker 1: Exit that, exactly that is what it. Was that's.

1474
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1475
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah and the other gross part about this and This

1476
01:13:07,039 --> 01:13:11,279
i'm this super, gross but because of the fucking sexual assault,

1477
01:13:11,399 --> 01:13:14,800
shit he was the goat of the. Season they knew

1478
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,720
there was no way he was gonna. Win so there

1479
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,279
was for several episodes a strategy of like how do

1480
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:22,119
we keep this fucking pervert in the game? Longer LIKE

1481
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:23,640
i want him in the end with me.

1482
01:13:25,279 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: Or something like.

1483
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: That, yeah and it.

1484
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: WAS i can understand that to an, Extent but LIKE

1485
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,520
i guess it also depends on who were who was

1486
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,720
having those, conversations like was it everyone or was it

1487
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,000
the people he was doing this too who were having

1488
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,279
the conversations of how do we keep him? In or

1489
01:13:39,399 --> 01:13:41,359
was it people who he wasn't doing this, too but

1490
01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:44,399
who knew that this was going. On, yeah and we're

1491
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,079
basically sacrificing those who he was doing this too to

1492
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:48,600
keep him.

1493
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 1: There so THAT'S i think it was the, latter if memory,

1494
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,720
Serves and that's it was kind of. Gross it was it.

1495
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,399
Did it was this that was The island of The.

1496
01:13:55,399 --> 01:13:58,000
Idols it was the season that left a gross taste

1497
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:00,159
in my. Mouth that whole thing was just gonna gross.

1498
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: Because it's like production pulled him aside multiple times on the. Show,

1499
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:07,600
yeah and had conversations with him like you can't do,

1500
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,640
This like you can't keep doing this other people, people

1501
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,479
people on your team are complaining about. It you need to. Stop, Yeah,

1502
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,720
Well i'm, Sorry i'm. SORRY i just wasn't even thinking about.

1503
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: It i'm just. GUY i just like to SHIP i don't.

1504
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: Know, yeah you, know apparently he was rubbing like on

1505
01:14:27,039 --> 01:14:29,399
a on a boat to like one of the things

1506
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:32,000
he was it was a female production syst and he

1507
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:33,239
was like rubbing or thigh or.

1508
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: Something that's that's WHAT i. Think this Is edwardo who's

1509
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,960
been typing all of. This, yeah that's What edwardo just typed.

1510
01:14:38,039 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: Up yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah pretty.

1511
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: Gross so he's obviously never playing. Again but it. Was

1512
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,760
it was just a. Grossy it's just one of those, like,

1513
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:46,520
yeah it. Was they will.

1514
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:48,239
Speaker 3: Also make me wonder like when he goes, home who

1515
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:49,680
does he does do this to at?

1516
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,079
Speaker 1: Home yeah that. Was, yeah he had a, kid and

1517
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,680
yeah it, was but it. Was, yeah they would like

1518
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,000
put the black screen, on like you, know the white,

1519
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,399
text Like dan was approached by production and told not

1520
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,720
to touch women in this way or, whatever and then

1521
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,680
he's on the next. Episode you. Know, yeah very weird

1522
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,159
season it.

1523
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: Was we also had a big conversation a couple of

1524
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:17,279
seasons Ago. Carlyn one Of Jeff prope's famous catchphrases before

1525
01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:19,199
they come into the, challenge he, says come on in.

1526
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 3: Guys, well, YEAH i kind of vaguely remember.

1527
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: This. Yeah then he had a conversation on the. Show

1528
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,199
nobody brought it up to him like on the. Show

1529
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,520
apparently he said a couple of friends had brought it

1530
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,479
up to him at home and his kids had mentioned

1531
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,239
it or something maybe guys wasn't an appropriate term for

1532
01:15:36,319 --> 01:15:40,800
the modern, yeah the situation we live in and. Stuff

1533
01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:42,680
so he brought it up to the. Cast he's, like,

1534
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,199
look production's not going to make a. Decision i'm not

1535
01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:47,840
going to make a, decision asking you how do we

1536
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,399
feel about? This and at first they were, like, oh

1537
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,960
you can say, guys it's, Okay but then like by

1538
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:55,319
the next, day like they're, like, well we've thought about.

1539
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:58,119
IT i don't know if maybe that's not a very inclusive.

1540
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:01,479
Term so then from that point on he cut it just,

1541
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,279
says come on inrop the guy's part of.

1542
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:07,399
Speaker 3: It, YEAH i feel like we have that conversation that

1543
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,560
we had a few seasons. Ago it was about that

1544
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,000
and kind of the that they have on The CHALLENGE.

1545
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:18,560
Tj he doesn't do it all the. Time it doesn't always,

1546
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,239
happen but it used to be a lot of guys

1547
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:25,479
and girls or the men and the.

1548
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: Girls a lot.

1549
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,159
Speaker 3: In the LAST i feel like in the last few

1550
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:35,199
years they've been a little bit more cognizant of. It

1551
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,800
so it's the women and the men or the boys

1552
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,640
and the, girls which THAT i feel like. That, YEAH

1553
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,920
i feel like the infantile side of, it the boys

1554
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,279
and girls hasn't happened as much or like They've they've

1555
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:51,319
done a pretty good job of not doing that in

1556
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:52,119
in recent.

1557
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 6: Seasons, yeah and we haven't talked about one of my

1558
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,680
favorite parts of the, Show Carlyn so on the, challenge

1559
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:08,560
you do the, CHALLENGE tj start the, challenge.

1560
01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: Will kind of hang, out maybe he'll mumble something every

1561
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:15,000
now and. Again the best thing About Survivor Jeff probes

1562
01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:16,880
talks the entire time the.

1563
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: Challenge, primo this is gonna be so.

1564
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,239
Speaker 2: Great, Oh catherine's coming In Dead. Last she used to

1565
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:25,760
be doing a lot better if she thinks she's gonna

1566
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,960
make it to the end of this one.

1567
01:17:29,399 --> 01:17:30,199
Speaker 1: To catch up over.

1568
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:33,079
Speaker 3: There, okay this is old SCHOOL, tj who used to

1569
01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:38,319
give everybody ship who like pulled no. Punches it's great

1570
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:42,600
on a challenge he gave you just it's. You he's

1571
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:42,920
out of.

1572
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: It look and she's way dead last over. There it's.

1573
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: GREAT i don't think there's any chance of her coming

1574
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,640
back in it's. GREAT i love.

1575
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,159
Speaker 3: This i'm Gonna i'm gonna enjoy. That that's, great it's.

1576
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: Great but then if she mounts a big, comeback that's

1577
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,920
how you do it On, Survivor.

1578
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:00,399
Speaker 3: On, survivor love?

1579
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: It oh? Inspiration does he?

1580
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,039
Speaker 3: Does he have the catchphrases of, like, yeah you're killing?

1581
01:18:05,079 --> 01:18:07,479
It or what's the other?

1582
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 4: One?

1583
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 3: On what's the other? One on the? Challenge you're killing? It,

1584
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,279
Fuck i'm.

1585
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,239
Speaker 1: Blanking see you.

1586
01:18:17,279 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: NEVER i honestly that don't take care. Now hope to

1587
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,279
see you never pops into my head like once a.

1588
01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: Week, yeah BUT i mean the tribe has. Spoken that's

1589
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,920
how that's how you kick a player. Out every time

1590
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,399
you snuff the, torch the tribe has. Spoken, yes he's

1591
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:39,239
got some he's got some good. Ones wait shall we

1592
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:40,720
get to today's immunity?

1593
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,319
Speaker 2: Challenge?

1594
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah is? It is it worth fighting? For is

1595
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,159
that one of?

1596
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:44,279
Speaker 2: His?

1597
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 1: Or what was the oasis where good things?

1598
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 2: Happen behind you are some.

1599
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: Torches everybody grab a, torch dip it in and get,

1600
01:18:52,039 --> 01:18:53,880
fire get? Fire?

1601
01:18:54,520 --> 01:19:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah oh that's.

1602
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:05,399
Speaker 1: Great just, WAIT, kln today's rewards out we're fighting For,

1603
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:12,159
yeah it's. Great excuse. Me all, right get, Pumped get pumped.

1604
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:17,039
Speaker 2: Sited Next, Wednesday survivor. Starts, yeah where are we watched?

1605
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:20,159
This it's ON, cbs so that means a little hit

1606
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:24,760
uh any amount OF tv. Service and then they also

1607
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,680
usually put it up the next day On Paramount.

1608
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,279
Speaker 3: Plus, okay SO i can watch it On thursday mornings

1609
01:19:29,279 --> 01:19:32,239
On Paramount, okay Next. Paramount we still have The paramount

1610
01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:33,920
account for our we.

1611
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,279
Speaker 2: Do it's gonna expire In. April No.

1612
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: Survivor gonna be done by.

1613
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,039
Speaker 2: Then you can reap.

1614
01:19:40,039 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: ITS i want to give you some. Money this, fascist

1615
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:51,359
fucking barring white wife. Fascist figure out a way to

1616
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:59,079
get them all, downloaded then release the. Files president of.

1617
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: PEDOPHILE a president is a. Pedophile so we're like half

1618
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,319
the people in.

1619
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: Government what the FAC's going on with this?

1620
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,279
Speaker 2: Shit what the? FUCK i saw?

1621
01:20:08,319 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i saw something the other. Day they said that

1622
01:20:14,359 --> 01:20:18,840
because of the amount they they found out through like

1623
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:25,520
The brits, somehow that the amounts like there were it

1624
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,439
was like fourteen plus terabytes of information that was pulled

1625
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,039
From epstein's, stuff and that if you compare that to

1626
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,960
the amount of documents that have been released so, far

1627
01:20:37,159 --> 01:20:41,159
we have actually only seen two percent of what they have.

1628
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: With all the redactions and, shit no just in, general, no,

1629
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,640
NO i know what you. Mean, yeah two and then

1630
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,039
also of that two, percent there's all the.

1631
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:52,359
Speaker 3: Redactions, yes, yeah, yeah so really we've only seen like one,

1632
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,079
percent but everything they.

1633
01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: Have Prince, william he's been Fucking europe's doing, there whatever's doing, There,

1634
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,720
andrew that's. It they're doing their. Thing let's fucking do

1635
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,119
some shit.

1636
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 3: HERE i mean they're starting. TO i saw that they arrested,

1637
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,960
him but they haven't booked him on any charges. Yet

1638
01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:12,439
So I'm i'm wondering if it's more of a vanity.

1639
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: Thing i'm hoping he's fucking. TALKING i mean me. Too,

1640
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,239
hey we should be anti pedophile on this.

1641
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:25,399
Speaker 2: Podcast we, Are, yeah, sure we are all, right.

1642
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Dangerous stands though dangerous.

1643
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,199
Speaker 3: Stance apparently with.

1644
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: THAT i think it's about time to wrap. Up it

1645
01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:34,399
sounds like a good after showing conversation to HAVE.

1646
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,319
Speaker 1: I pedophilia talk on The challenge Or challenge Or, Yeah

1647
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:39,720
Challenge Survivor.

1648
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: Wrestling got a good shout out On John oliver last.

1649
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,359
Speaker 3: Week over a bunch OF i haven't seen the episode

1650
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:50,960
yet a.

1651
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Bunch of, stuff and then he points out, like and you,

1652
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,199
know just this last week over on E w this

1653
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,560
happened and they showed a. Clip two guys is getting

1654
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,319
ready to wrestle in the ring standing there and a

1655
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,039
giant fuck Fuck ice chant started up and one of

1656
01:22:06,079 --> 01:22:08,199
the guys is like looking. Around it just kind of

1657
01:22:08,279 --> 01:22:11,119
looks and he's, like you, know things are. Bad when

1658
01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:14,319
this breaks out of the wrestling event AND mjf does

1659
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:17,000
a Full Jim, halpert it just looks directly as the.

1660
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:20,239
CAMERA i did see that.

1661
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 3: CLIP i haven't seen the actual obbode, yet BUT i

1662
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,119
saw that clip AND i was. Dying this is.

1663
01:22:25,239 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: Fantastic and one of the, wrestlers like back when this all,

1664
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,560
started wore a Abolish ice shirt to the ring and

1665
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,520
so he has been like leading that and he donates

1666
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,840
all the money from the shirt because he sells it

1667
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,760
on his website to, like you, know whatever charity is

1668
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,399
that help people with this kind of. Shit and uh,

1669
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,560
Yeah so he gets a lot of fuck ice chants

1670
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,640
when he comes, out and that was probably the biggest.

1671
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,279
Speaker 1: One we'll save it for the after, show but, WELL

1672
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,760
i want to talk to you about comparing wrestling TO p.

1673
01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:02,880
Six remind me of. That in the after, show all, right.

1674
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 2: Let's get into. It, UH i guess for this episode Of.

1675
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,920
Survivor this is the Bran.

1676
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:16,039
Speaker 1: Big, Uncle, Sweetee Carlin San diego and uh for Now

1677
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:26,800
Travias Bogle yo yo yo wee yo wee Karln best

1678
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,560
theme song all the. Time ohe oh y oh wee

1679
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,680
i oh wee yo yo. Weei this is like the

1680
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:40,920
eight version of The survivor tribal theme Music Okay Bybody

1681
01:23:41,319 --> 01:23:41,680
Bye guy