WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.359 enough out here looking. I'm new to one down now 34 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:08.800 and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello, 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.759 hit the Boddy out here? Quote on out there? I 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.159 thought of a bet about nine. I don't know easy 37 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:22.719 ann ount there. Yeah, I'm walking right headyo. 38 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:29.719 He there, and thanks so much for joining me for 39 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:33.120 this show. This episode is featuring another one of those 40 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:36.520 guest appearances I did over on a show several months back. 41 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.080 It was in the beginning of the year. I was 42 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.159 over on with inquiries of our reality on Open Minds 43 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.199 Media on YouTube. As per usual, I started off talking 44 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.039 about some of my experiences and some of the things 45 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:48.800 that you guys have heard me talk about before. But 46 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.159 I did get into some things later on in the 47 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:54.199 interview that I don't normally talk about, So there are 48 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:55.919 some new things if you want to skip through some 49 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:57.520 of the things in the beginning that you've heard me 50 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.120 say before. We do get into some conversations about the 51 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.879 things I think you would find interesting. That said, make 52 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.400 sure you're back here. On Friday, I had a wonderful 53 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:09.080 conversation with Christopher Noel, best known probably to you guys 54 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:14.120 as the guy who filmed the quote unquote Porcupine Bigfoot video, 55 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.599 and he famously or infamously came up with the possibility, 56 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.000 at least in his mind, that Bigfoot may be some 57 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.759 sort of autistic savann. He's written a couple of books 58 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:25.879 about that. We certainly get into that, we talk about 59 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.280 the video and the interview. It was a really cool 60 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:30.639 conversation I think you guys will really enjoy On Friday, 61 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:32.680 and make sure you're back here on Sunday. I'm going 62 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.120 to post another interview I did quite a while back 63 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.560 over on apocalyptic Anomalies. Another great conversation over there, I 64 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.479 think you guys will enjoy. And again, I did get 65 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.599 into some things that I normally don't talk about during 66 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:45.400 the interview, so you'll get a little bit of the 67 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.639 same old, same old, but a lot more of the 68 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:49.639 things that you haven't heard me talk about before. So 69 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:51.919 hopefully you will enjoy those. And we'll be back to 70 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.400 regularly scheduled programming next week when we return from our 71 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.199 trip up to Georgia. So without further ado, all that's 72 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.039 left for you to do is sit back, relax, and 73 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:01.919 enjoy the show. 74 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:16.920 Please welcome to the show researcher, author and podcaster Brian 75 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.720 King Shark. How's it going today, Man. 76 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.360 I am good man, I'm glad to be here. 77 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:22.680 Absolute pleasure to have you on the show. 78 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.279 So here we are. Man, I am glad to be here. 79 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.319 I'm glad to have the invite. I'm always down for 80 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.319 conversations and that's what I live for, So. 81 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.040 I guess a good spot to start before we get 82 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.399 into the meat and potatoes the conversation. I always like 83 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:35.439 to play the ground work with people. So for anybody 84 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:37.439 that may not be familiar with who you are, what 85 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:39.600 you do your podcast, I want you to let him 86 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:40.920 know a little bit about yourself and a little bit 87 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:41.639 about your background. 88 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.800 Sure. I guess the thing to start with is I 89 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.519 spent sixteen years in law enforcement. That's a thing that 90 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.000 stays with you throughout and it's been one of those 91 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.639 things that I've had to monitor as I went into podcasting, 92 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.360 because I didn't want to be that guy interviewing people 93 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.360 that was interrogating his guests. At least I had to 94 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.680 step outside my comfort zone and say, Okay, I don't 95 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.439 want to be the guy who's interrogating folks. And I 96 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.399 left that. In twenty sixteen, we decided to buy some properties. 97 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.319 We left Georgia ended up in North Carolina on forty 98 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.199 acres of property that I hoped might have some Bigfoot activity. 99 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.480 I have to be honest, it has it disappointed to 100 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.279 this point. We live in a four hundred square foot 101 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.279 tiny house out in the middle of nowhere, in the 102 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.240 middle of the woods, which sounds like a nightmare to 103 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.680 some people. To me, it's living the dream. 104 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.040 Sounds like peace, man, I'm jealous. 105 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.160 It is definitely peaceful out here, man, It's definitely peaceful. 106 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.800 But outside of that, I guess the next big thing 107 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.720 would be after leaving law enforcement, I worked some odd 108 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.000 jobs here and there. I was working in retail at 109 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:41.040 a shitty job that I really hated, working fifty hours 110 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.480 a week, driving two hours a day round trip to 111 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.319 a job that I hated, managing fifty people. I was 112 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.800 dying inside man and I wanted to do something different. 113 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.680 And I've always been into music. I was a singer. 114 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.439 I was in bands from my teenage years on through 115 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.199 most of my adulthood. And I like to perform. I 116 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:58.519 like to work with audio. I like to talk to people. 117 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:01.519 I was looking for something. I really was into Bigfoot. 118 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:04.600 I wanted to talk to people who had experiences with bigfoot, 119 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.040 particularly in the southeastern United States, where I was born 120 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.199 and raised. A friend of mine turned me onto a 121 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.199 podcast a couple of years ago. I listened to the 122 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.800 first couple of episodes of an encounters based podcast. I 123 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.720 was hooked with the stories. I was hooked with people 124 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:21.000 saying that they had experiences with this eight nine foot 125 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.399 tall bipedal homtid in North America. I was fascinated with 126 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.240 how many stories there were, where the stories were coming from. 127 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.839 I wanted to start talking to people in Georgia, in Tennessee, 128 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.399 in Florida, and the Carolinas, where I was born and 129 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.519 raised that had those kind of experiences, because at least 130 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.639 I was one of those people that thought of Bigfoot. 131 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.560 And you think about the Pacific Northwest, right, you think 132 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.279 of Patty. It's got to be Bluff Creek in California 133 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.560 and anywhere up in the Pacific Northwest area for there 134 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.279 to be a Bigfoot. But people were experiencing those things 135 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.399 in the southeastern United States. I knew that because I 136 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.240 grew up as a child hearing those stories in the 137 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.759 area that I was living in at the time, which 138 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.360 was North Georgia, and there was story everywhere about people 139 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:04.199 running into these big, hairy creatures. They called him wild man, 140 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.120 wooly man, harry Man, sasquatching. Bigfoot wasn't really in the 141 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.959 nomenclature back then. It beasts in that area. I was 142 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:12.800 fascinated with that. I wanted to talk to people, so 143 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.120 I started a podcast. I can always record these people 144 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.759 talking to me, because I was really just doing it 145 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:19.519 for me. I wanted to have those conversations for me 146 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.360 so I could hear from these people what their experiences were, 147 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:24.160 and then I wanted to compare them to where I 148 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:26.480 was hearing experiences and the places to see if there 149 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.360 were correlations or if anything crossed over. And sure enough, 150 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.800 I got into some Facebook groups. I probably joined five 151 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.240 hundred Facebook groups and got into everything Bigfoot, and I 152 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:38.720 just started putting it out there, just a casting call. Hey, 153 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:40.839 if you've had an experience of Bigfoot, and you're in 154 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.800 North Carolina or South Carolina or Georgia or Tennessee or Florida, 155 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.480 or basically anywhere, just reach out to me. I want 156 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.000 to talk to you. Started recording the show on my phone. 157 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.879 Sounded horrible, It was horrible. I had no idea how 158 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:55.800 to podcast, I had no idea what I was doing. 159 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.160 But I was talking to people. That was the main thing. 160 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.120 So I started talking to people, inner viewing them, recording 161 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:04.000 the interviews, and I started putting out the episodes. I 162 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.439 think I posted the first episode of Sasquatch Odyssey back 163 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:11.600 its February of twenty twenty one. People, of course, weren't listening. 164 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:13.759 It was a brand new podcast that nobody had ever 165 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.759 heard of. You look at your numbers and you had 166 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.519 thirty downloads in a week, and think, I didn't really 167 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.160 get into this for people to listen to it. I 168 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.279 just got into it for me and I kept putting 169 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.839 the episodes out, and I don't know, probably three months in, 170 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.959 I get an email from Wes Germer at Sasquatch Chronicles saying, hey, man, 171 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.720 I listened to your show. The show's good, but your 172 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.080 audio sucks, so let me help you with your audio. 173 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.080 I was like, okay, that was the first podcast I 174 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:39.679 ever listened to. I'm I going to say no, of 175 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.080 course not. We got on the phone and Wes helped 176 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.159 me with some equipment. I ordered the board that he 177 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:47.320 uses I'm still using it to this day, a microphone. 178 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.679 He spent hours on the phone helping me set it 179 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.320 up and dial it in. It changed the audio of 180 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.919 the show literally overnight. It went from amateur hour to wow, 181 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.759 this actually sounds like a podcast. And then people started 182 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.919 People were already listening. I had a pretty decent following 183 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.039 three months in. She's doing a couple of thousand downloads 184 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.759 a month. At that point. It was the next year, 185 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:12.000 March of twenty twenty two, I left my full time 186 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.919 job and I started podcasting full time and I haven't 187 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.960 looked back. I've been podcasting full time now for ash 188 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.360 Go a little over two years. Bigfoot just sucks You 189 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.919 in it's like any other crypto. It really is everything 190 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.399 I do every single day, whether I'm in the woods 191 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.320 on my property, I'm writing a book or interviewing somebody 192 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.559 or doing a speaking gig. It's literally carried me around 193 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.399 the world. At this point, I'm doing a speaking gig 194 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.840 next month in the United Kingdom. 195 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:36.799 Well, that's awesome. 196 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.879 Who thought I would ever be in the United Kingdom 197 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.559 if talking about Bigfoot as a headline speaker with Jeff Meldrum. 198 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:45.600 You could have never told me that was even in 199 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.519 the cards for me back then when I first started 200 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.360 getting into this. But it really the best decision I 201 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.120 ever made was at that point as a podcaster. And 202 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.399 there's probably somebody listening right now who has done a 203 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.320 podcast or is into podcasting. That gets to the point 204 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:02.879 where if you've monetized your show, you get to a 205 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.879 point where I was teetering on I'm almost replacing my 206 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.720 income that I'm making this crappy job that I hate, 207 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.799 but I'm just not there yet. If I just had 208 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:17.200 enough time to spend on the craft of podcasting, I 209 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:19.480 think I could make enough money doing this to pay 210 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.600 my bills and live comfortably. So finally, I said screw it. 211 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.120 I'm just gonna quit my job. I've got to devote 212 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.039 full time. I gave myself three months. My better half 213 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.320 was phenomenal and said, just go for it. You're passionate 214 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.559 about it, You're doing a great job. People love the show. 215 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.200 Just quit your job. We've got enough money in the 216 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:39.039 bank to last three months. Just do it and see 217 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.559 if it works. Fortunately for me, it worked, and I've 218 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:43.919 never had to go back to working a real job. 219 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:46.639 I just get to podcast and talk about Bigfoot and 220 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.120 do speaking gigs and write books about Bigfoot. It's been phenomenal. 221 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.200 That's a little bit about the story. That's the short 222 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.279 version of how I got to the point where I'm 223 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.320 at now. LN props for being able to podcast full time. 224 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:59.320 I'm slowly on the cloud and being able to do 225 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:01.720 that myself. Once you get into something like this, man, 226 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.639 it becomes like it's your passion, not so much like 227 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.759 a job. You have no problem investigating researching this stuff 228 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.600 all the time. And like you said, podcasting in general, 229 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.320 cryptids in general, they just become your life at a 230 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:14.440 certain point, and once you get to that point, there's 231 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:16.519 no looking back. Like you feel like if you just 232 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.879 stop doing the podcast or you just stop researching this stuff. 233 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:20.879 You'd almost feel like missing a part of yourself at 234 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.120 a certain point. Yeah, I definitely couldn't do it. I 235 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.399 could not go back. I've said it so many times. 236 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.799 I would have to find something in and around this 237 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.320 kind of thing, whether it be podcasting or researching full time. 238 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.159 It's a hard road to hoe to be a full 239 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.639 time researcher. They're very few full time researchers. I think 240 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:40.519 one of the only ones that I know personally is 241 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.120 Todd Standing that has been able to do it. Have 242 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.120 my opinions about Todd, but I give him props because 243 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.039 he does what he loves to do. It's his full 244 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.039 time job. He is a full time Bigfoot researcher. Say 245 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.240 what you want about him. As I said, I've got 246 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.200 my own opinions about Todd, but he's doing it, and 247 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:59.320 it's very difficult to make a living doing this, and 248 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:01.159 there's plenty of people that look down on you. I 249 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.279 have a lot of haters, just like other podcasters who 250 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.759 do this full time. They really hate the fact that 251 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.639 you make money off of something they feel like you 252 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.440 shouldn't be making money off of I've got to know 253 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.559 the podcast called That Bigfoot Podcast that I host with Wayne, 254 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.240 my co host, and we've done entire shows about the 255 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:19.159 business of bigfoot. I'll go down any road you want 256 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.559 to go down. But it's something that I'm passionate about 257 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.360 because there's so many people that get pissed off for 258 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:26.360 people doing television shows where they make money on bigfoot, 259 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.399 or they write a book and make a couple of 260 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.279 books about Bigfoot, or they charge people to take them 261 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.000 out in the woods, very much like Todd does on 262 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:36.919 his expeditions, Like, look, if somebody is willing to pay 263 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.000 you thirty five hundred dollars to come out and spend 264 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.879 seven days in the woods and look for Bigfoot, what's 265 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.879 the problem with that? Right, it's a free country. It 266 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.840 is capitalism. People have the ability to do that. I 267 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:49.799 don't charge anybody for any of my shows. All of 268 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.200 my shows are one hundred percent free to everybody. I 269 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:54.799 do have memberships where people can get things early and 270 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.919 they can get ad free shows. But everything I've ever done, 271 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.679 as far as a podcast, has been put out for 272 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:01.879 the mass for free. They may have to sit through 273 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:03.919 some ads. We have programmatic ads. That's how we pay 274 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.559 our bills and liveried ads. But the show has always 275 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.120 been and will continue to be free. I got off 276 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.200 on the tangent. Sorry, oh you're good man. 277 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.519 We can definitely get into the business of Bigfoot, because 278 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:15.840 I didn't even want to throw in the idea that 279 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.600 a lot of people don't realize it with the podcast 280 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.240 just because they listen to it every week. They enjoy 281 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:20.919 it and stuff, but they don't actually realize how much 282 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.919 is actually going on behind the scenes, that you're spending 283 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.000 late nights setting up editing, setting up things with guests. 284 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:29.000 It's not even like trying to be rude about shying 285 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.679 to collect money for It's just a matter of if 286 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.279 you had an artist that's made these beautiful paintings, like 287 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.240 the person would expect to hopefully make something for their 288 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.960 time and effort instead of just giving it all away 289 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.200 for free. I mean it's the same with podcasting, because 290 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:41.600 I see it as it's like an art form. You 291 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.720 work up really hard on it, so everybody deserves to 292 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.960 get paid for their work realistically. But I definitely, like 293 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:48.360 I said, I want to get into the whole business 294 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.320 a Bigfoot thing like you were just mentioning, and I 295 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.080 definitely want to make sure that we have time to 296 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.120 get into your book and get into some of your 297 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.879 sasquatch experiences. So I guess, whatever road you want to 298 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.960 lead it down first, I'm here to follow. 299 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.559 Man, let's go back down to I guess we can 300 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.399 get the experienced stuff out of the way. There hasn't 301 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.440 been a ton of experiences. The first experience I believe 302 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.320 I had with the sasquatch was when I was around 303 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.559 twelve years old. I was hunting in the woods where 304 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.720 we lived in northwest Georgia. I didn't see anything, but 305 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.159 I was out in the woods in an area I 306 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.759 hadn't been in before. And I get into this area 307 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.080 and I immediately have that feeling that everybody talks about, 308 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.639 where the hair on the back of my neck stood up, 309 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.720 the hair on my arm stood up, and I felt like, 310 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:29.960 I'm not supposed to be here. I need to be 311 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:33.320 in another place other than here right now. And then 312 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.919 I heard something crashing through the woods. It sounded by pedal, 313 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.960 and in retrospect, I've said it so many times now. 314 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.600 I didn't know what a bluff charge was back then 315 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.240 because I was twelve and I was poor, and we 316 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.240 didn't have much television. So I didn't see what a 317 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.279 bluff charge was by washing animal planet or whatever the 318 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.480 case may be, back then, But now I know it 319 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.039 to be what sounds like a bluff charge. This thing 320 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.120 is coming ten to twelve feet away from me in 321 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.000 the scruff in the brush, just outside my field of vision. 322 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.960 I think it was bluff charging me. I heard huffs, growls, grunts. 323 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.960 It was nothing that I could identify, and still to 324 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.639 this day can't identify. It wasn't a deer, It wasn't 325 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.600 anything that I would know would exist in those woods 326 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.080 at the time that I had experienced, but I know 327 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.360 it terrified me. I was stuck in that spot. I 328 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:21.200 think I wrote about it in the book, and I 329 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:25.000 described it as feeling like my legs were wooden steaks 330 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.320 that were stuck into the ground. I couldn't move. This 331 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.919 thing never got any closer than probably ten or twelve feet, 332 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.279 but I could tell whatever it was pissed off and 333 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:34.840 I needed to be out of there. So the fight 334 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.720 or flight finally kicked in and my legs started working again, 335 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:40.120 and I turned around and hauled, asked the six or 336 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:42.919 seven eight hundred yards back to the house, jumped over 337 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:44.960 the barb boar our fence. I was okay, I'm safe, 338 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.159 I'm back in the yard. And I went inside and 339 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:48.840 my mom was inside, and I didn't tell her what 340 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.000 had happened. I didn't know how to describe what had happened. 341 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.120 What am I going to say? Something sounded like a 342 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.559 bulldozer coming through the woods, huffing and gruffing and growl 343 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:00.720 and shitd have been like, yeah, whatever, dude, I didn't 344 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:02.039 know what to say. I didn't tell her about it. 345 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:03.960 I didn't tell my mom about that experience. I think 346 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:08.279 until probably four years ago. Maybe she was like, I 347 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.720 never knew that happened in that house. I was like, yeah, 348 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.279 there was a lot going on in that house. I 349 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:16.799 had some really weird paranormal experiences, ghost experiences in that 350 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.600 same house. I heard talking, I heard scratching on the walls, 351 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:24.600 just a really heavy, sort of demonic kind of feeling. 352 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:26.480 And we knew that the people who had lived in 353 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.679 that house before us had been into devil worship. It 354 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.480 was a small town, like we didn't even have a 355 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.080 caution light. Everybody knew everybody, and everybody knew everybody's business. 356 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:39.360 These two brothers that were the sons of the guy 357 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.000 that we were renting the house from We knew that 358 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.200 they were into devil worshiping and some wild crazy stuff. 359 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:46.519 I don't know if there was something they conjured up, 360 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:48.759 but I dealt with it the entire time we lived 361 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:51.720 in that house. It petrified me. It terrified me, so 362 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.320 I was having that going on inside. Then they could 363 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.879 bigfoots chasing me in the woods. It was a lot 364 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.080 going on. And I found out later on my moment 365 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.960 and I started talking about it. She told me that 366 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:04.640 my dad was experiencing things that he had confided in her. Now, 367 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.480 mind you, he was taking drugs and he was drunk 368 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:09.480 most of the time, So I take that with the 369 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.640 grant as salt. But he was hearing describing experiencing some 370 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:14.599 of the very same things that I was. I certainly 371 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:16.680 wasn't high or drunk at twelve years old. I think 372 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.279 there was some continuity in the stories and what might 373 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.440 have been going on and what we might have been experiencing. 374 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:23.960 It was a lot at one time to be dealing 375 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.279 with at that age. Then after that, just going with 376 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.440 your life. We moved to a different house, we moved 377 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.279 into a different area. My mom and dad divorced, and 378 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.279 a lot of things changed Bigfoot was always there for me, 379 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:38.440 but it was just on the periphery of life. You 380 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.319 go through other things. Nessie was always my favorite cryptid 381 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.480 even before Bigfoot. You grow up and move on and 382 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.839 you start working and you do your life. I suppressed 383 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.759 that for a lot of years when I was in 384 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:51.000 law enforcement. You don't go to work as a police 385 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.400 officer in the City of Atlanta and talk about Bigfoot 386 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.000 and UFOs. I had a UFO experience when I was sixteen, 387 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.319 so I definitely had all these experiences. Wasn't something you 388 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:01.440 talked about. I did a lot of DUI and I 389 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.880 went to court all the time, and those DUI attorneys 390 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.839 are ruthless. They are looking for anything in your past 391 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.559 or in your life that they can dig up and 392 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.200 talk about to discredit you on the stand. Because I 393 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:15.240 was winning a lot of DUI cases, I didn't want 394 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.240 to talk about anything like that until I got out 395 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.519 of law enforcement. Like I said, my better half and 396 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.759 I were both City of Atlanta police officers. We left 397 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.240 that in twenty sixteen, and then I was able to 398 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:26.759 get back into what I really loved, which was being 399 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.119 in the woods. And I really got into the Bigfoot podcast. 400 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:32.279 Like I said, and it was just something that the 401 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.759