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<v Speaker 1>Hi, there, just to say this is a short snippet

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<v Speaker 1>from this week's main episode, which was published on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, if you want the full episode, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find it just below this one. So, third tier transpersonal development,

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<v Speaker 1>and again we're going to keep this high level. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go into individual stages of third tier

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<v Speaker 1>because again I'm assuming we don't know what they are,

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<v Speaker 1>even though Wilbur spends a lot of time talking about them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just assuming we don't know what they are. So

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<v Speaker 1>what can we say, Well, we can say that at

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<v Speaker 1>third tier transpersonal and this is really in the name,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to explain what it means. We can

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<v Speaker 1>say that our identity is permanently free from our individuated

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<v Speaker 1>sense of self. So you may be wondering what that means. Well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain how I would understand this. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what we have as humans fundamentally is we have our mind,

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<v Speaker 1>body sense experience. That's what we have. That is like

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<v Speaker 1>a ground bottom fact. So we have the experience of

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<v Speaker 1>our mind like our thoughts. We have our body, the

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<v Speaker 1>experience of our body, and we have our senses, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have our visual field, auditory field, our sense of touch,

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<v Speaker 1>our sense of taste, and so on. Now, through of

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<v Speaker 1>development we have that. Okay, our entire life, we always

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<v Speaker 1>have that. However, our actual experience of mind body, our mind,

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<v Speaker 1>body and senses varies widely across development. Even though we

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<v Speaker 1>always have it, it changes a lot as we develop.

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<v Speaker 1>So at pre personal levels here I'm switching back to

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<v Speaker 1>pre personal personal, post personal or trans personal terminology again.

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<v Speaker 1>At pre personal levels, the self has not yet formed.

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<v Speaker 1>So within mind body sense experience, there is not like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the self has not formed it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>think of it kind of like clay, in which there's

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<v Speaker 1>no shape yet. There's just mind body sense experience, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no self within that way, we don't experience our

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<v Speaker 1>We have our experience of mind, body and senses, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't experience any of it as personal, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have we don't. There's no part of it which

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<v Speaker 1>feels like us, which is not the case that personal

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<v Speaker 1>or post or sorry, it's not the case at the

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<v Speaker 1>personal levels of development. So at the pre personal levels,

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<v Speaker 1>we are unconsciously embeddied within MBC. Now, at personal levels,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a clear sense of a separate itself. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>permanent sense that my mind and body are me, while

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<v Speaker 1>everything else is not. So my mind and body are me,

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<v Speaker 1>but my senses are not. Other people are not The

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<v Speaker 1>world around me is not me. Now transpersonal this is

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<v Speaker 1>where what I was talking about. Our identity becomes permanently

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<v Speaker 1>free from our individuated sense of self. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes free from the sense that we are our

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<v Speaker 1>body and mind exclusively and everything else that is not

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<v Speaker 1>that it is not us. That loosens every and ever

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<v Speaker 1>deeper as we go through transpersonal development. At transpersonal we

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<v Speaker 1>basically see that this separate sense of self is simply

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<v Speaker 1>part of our mind body sense experience. And realizing what

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<v Speaker 1>mind body sense experience is, our identity extends beyond our

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<v Speaker 1>mind and body into all of mind body sense experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and we become identified with all of it more and

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<v Speaker 1>more as development unfolds in the transpersonal realm. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>can have states that are transpersionally. As I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>can have transpersonal states at personal levels of development or

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<v Speaker 1>even possibly pre personal levels of development. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>only states and regardless in a funny way that is

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to describe, but just you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>trust me here that well you don't have to trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the theory, and this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>explain weird phenomena like how a zen master can be

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<v Speaker 1>like chauvinistic and ethnocentric and all that. Basically at the

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<v Speaker 1>personal level, even if you have witness or nondual awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>which are certainly transpersonal level states of consciousness, this psychologically

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of your psychological development, in terms of your

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<v Speaker 1>level of development, every your whole psyche is still organized

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<v Speaker 1>around personal material, Like it's still organized around you being

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<v Speaker 1>a self, and you being a self means a certain thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if the trans even if the states of

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<v Speaker 1>cludges have a big effect on that, you're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to live out the stage that you're at. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>could be green and have pretty firm non dual awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're still green, so you're still going to have egalitate.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still going to see things through egalitism and see

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<v Speaker 1>things relativistically and so on and so forth. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like transpersonal these things are not just it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually like it's reached into psychological development and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole psyche has been around, rear ranged around transpersonal consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said earlier, a genuine transpersonal development. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't just have say witness or non dual, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have you have blue like the blue can Fortblove. You

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<v Speaker 1>have everything up to blue. Then you have the blue

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<v Speaker 1>conformisty level, which is belonging to this and ethno centrism.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Orange rational which gives you access to rationality

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<v Speaker 1>and formal operational thinking. You have green post modern consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>which gives you relativism, egalitarianism and post formal operational thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You have til integral, which is systemic thinking. We're multi perspectivalism.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have turquoise construct aware, where you are aware

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<v Speaker 1>of the constructed nature of concepts and meaning. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got all of that and you've got the Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>developing the sense that you are not limited to your

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<v Speaker 1>mind and body. You're transcending all of it, including the

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<v Speaker 1>self sense, and your identity is becoming stationed beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>self sense. Hi. There just to say. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>short snippet from this week's main episode, which was published

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. As always, if you want the full episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find it just below this one.