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<v Speaker 1>Oh red Tzar, Hello, and welcome to the show. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the Cage

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<v Speaker 1>to Night and Raven and you know, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into the seasonal episodes, and we'll be dropping here next week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been talking a lot about so many

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<v Speaker 1>different conspiracies. We have been doing a lot of deep dives.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a lot of great guests on here recently,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always good to go back to the roots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And what's more conspiratorial than UAP's UFOs, flying saucers,

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Men, the Great Men, the reptilian it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the things, you know. So that's what we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>doing today, good cult members, Because once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan and I were doing some deep diving into a

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<v Speaker 1>whole list of UFOs and sightings and things of this nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and one that came up was Vanderberg Air Force Base,

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<v Speaker 1>which currently is Vanderberg Space Force Base. Now, going to

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<v Speaker 1>be completely honest with you, I am a marine. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that this Air Force base existed. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's tons of Air Force bases in bomb

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<v Speaker 1>fuck Nowheresville, Kansas that we've never heard of before. And okay, fine, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Tons of bases all over there that I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know existed. Like everybody that I got stationed in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like Georgia a marine. Yeah no, yeah, where

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<v Speaker 2>in this little podunk base. He was a data marine

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<v Speaker 2>and he got sent there for like the last I

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<v Speaker 2>think a year and a half of his enlistment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that checks, good old Chad. So but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing for Marines. There's only so many bases that we

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<v Speaker 1>could even get stationed at anime. It depends on your mos,

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<v Speaker 1>depends on your job and things like that. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>somebody associated with the Air Wing, there's a few big

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<v Speaker 1>bases that you'll probably end up right me or mar

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry Point. Yeh, fine, fair enough. But especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get some training in some specialized craft, you

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<v Speaker 1>might find yourself at Air Force base or at some

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<v Speaker 1>other type of base. And then we have a few,

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<v Speaker 1>a very select few bases that are just off the

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<v Speaker 1>beaten path that are Marine Corps bases that no one's

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of. But they're like a random logistics base

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<v Speaker 1>like bar Stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have like a small little unit that's stationed there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like how he ended up there and I still

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<v Speaker 2>was like you, Georgia. He loved it. It was really chill.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like there was hardly I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe twenty five of them. There was not hardly any.

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<v Speaker 1>That it was chill. You're a marine stationed at some

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<v Speaker 1>army base, like man have some little podunk base. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, sounds great. I'm already ready for the festivities.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't tell by my appearance, Yeah, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>for our Christmas episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we have a whole list that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be going down. We're starting off with Hanukah. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Kwanza. We're going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more obscure practices from around the world. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about how a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas traditions that people go on and on about are

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<v Speaker 1>super pagan are actually super Christian that the Pagan's adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go into a wide variety of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be real that episode. We're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to argue back and forth about a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not giving opinions. I am only going to

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<v Speaker 1>be bringing historical documentation.

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<v Speaker 2>The argument is is there's two sides of that, so

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<v Speaker 2>we shall see that. I am wearing my very festive

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<v Speaker 2>ye motherfucker shirt with my little horrible little gingerbreads.

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<v Speaker 1>I just watch Diehard. Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas until I see Hans Grouper fall to his death.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just saying. I mean, it is a traditional Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what anyone says it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had this debate with my twelve year old, who,

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, has never seen the movie, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you saying this is a Christmas movie, Chris A,

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<v Speaker 1>it happens during Christmas. He's like, there's no Christmas music,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, that's the only music that's playing during

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<v Speaker 1>the entire movie is Christmas music? As a matter of.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact, given it in the elevator, it's like the EPDPP,

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The driver he's listened. Yes, it's like rap Christmas music,

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<v Speaker 1>but still Christmas. Nonetheless, the whole thing is a Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they actually nominated it and it like it

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<v Speaker 2>actually became a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. For certain, but I know that National

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<v Speaker 2>Lampoon Chevy Chase's movie is the number one movie right

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<v Speaker 2>now in the country. Yes it is. I heard it

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio and I was like, yes, for those

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<v Speaker 2>that don't know, that is one of my top three,

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<v Speaker 2>actually four favorite Christmas movies. All the Christmas is a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic Christmas movie. You are just only like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the few people that don't like it. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like him, but the movie itself is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>And the brother in law who always plays the retard

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<v Speaker 1>like he was in an Independence Day as the retard,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Eddie's awesome shitter's fault like. Look for our Christmas episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be using my little Moose mugs, my

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<v Speaker 2>little Moose cups throughout the whole thing, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a vibe. It is my whole vibe. I also love

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<v Speaker 2>White Christmas, traditional Grinch movie Diehard. Those are probably my

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<v Speaker 2>top four favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, my top four would be a Christmas Carol varying

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<v Speaker 1>varieties for the record, not just the Jim Carrey version

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But I do love the storyline of Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Dickens and Christmas Carol. It is elf, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>if people hate Will Ferrell, then it's not your jam.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I personally love it. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>rope in all of the claymation Christmas movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Got about the clamations, Yeah, no, I love the clamations,

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<v Speaker 2>clay Mations.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, the Grinch, all versions, even the one with ben

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<v Speaker 1>Atic cumber Patch. It wasn't my favorite, but I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>mad at it either. It was Okay, the original is

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<v Speaker 1>the best, but the original is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just my opinion though, because I love worskarl Off.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Original Mummy for those of who that don't know, for

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<v Speaker 2>those for those of you, those of for those of

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<v Speaker 2>who obviously guess I was in Whoville.

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<v Speaker 1>IM about to say you being a little Grincher.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to be fair, I have a Grinch doing

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<v Speaker 2>a yoga pose behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, next to a Laboo boo dressed like a who.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have Santa Claus. Like, there's Santa Claus and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little mini crumpasses. Yeah, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fest fuck best of as the fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also, like you know, representing the gingerbread, not the

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I'm surprised they don't have their

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<v Speaker 1>legs broken off or something. They have bite stick bite.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick another, they have bites sticking another their heads. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about the details everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like I said, we are going to be getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the holiday season next week, the entire week of Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>We're starting off with the Hanukah, and we're gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>our way through all the good and the fun and

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<v Speaker 1>the ugly and the crazy. So stay tuned for that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into the face.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know anything about VanderBurg.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't either nothing. I had heard of the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you look up a list of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the more prominent and documented UFO sightings and things, Vanderberg

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<v Speaker 1>comes up. I didn't realize there was two reasons as.

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<v Speaker 2>To why why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>One involves a nuclear test that was done in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four that was ruined by a flying saucer that

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<v Speaker 1>what that apparently went on record, and then the dude

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<v Speaker 1>shut down. They erased his military service record. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get seen by the vay.

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<v Speaker 2>They just were like, he never existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, and then later he essentially got told you weren't here.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the Air Force. I think you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be scored off the base right now. How crazy is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Get the fuck out? They erased his name, said he

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<v Speaker 1>had never served in the Air Force. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>go and find his own documentation and video evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>him on the site on the day wearing his rank

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<v Speaker 1>to finally get acknowledged as a veteran of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Air Force.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>But then cut to two thousand and three and we

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<v Speaker 1>have another u sing at Vanderberg Air Force Base, which

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<v Speaker 1>is now a Space Force pace. So good colt members.

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<v Speaker 2>Space Force base.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know, when the Air Force split off

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<v Speaker 2>So I find it interesting that they've had UFO sidings

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<v Speaker 2>there and then they chose that to be the Space Force.

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<v Speaker 2>What's underneath the ground like cles, sure, yep, which we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about good cult members, So buckle in, strap in,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk about some of the more

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<v Speaker 1>wild UFO and UAP conversations surrounding Vanderberg Space Force slash

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<v Speaker 1>So indeed, indeed, all right, so now let's start off

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation with because as I was doing this research, Raven,

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me how many UFO sightings happen around air

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean, just doing this for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about UFOs a good bit and there always

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<v Speaker 2>how many actually happen just in America around these bases.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confused that, like why it's specifically these bases.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and a portion of that kind of ties into

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<v Speaker 1>the skeptics of the UFOs, right, because.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're training or their planes are being trained, or

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<v Speaker 1>Your mental craft, right, like the big flying Dorito, the

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<v Speaker 1>angry bomber, the angry Deria. Rather for years, people were

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<v Speaker 1>these statements and everything. We'll come to find out it

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<v Speaker 2>It is actually pretty cool little aircraft, honest dope. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's pretty badass. Look in the aircraft. I'm like, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, there are more than a few

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<v Speaker 1>unexplainable things, even by today's metrics. Like we're talking in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties and sixties, people were reporting the flying Dorito,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these reports, even from way back in the

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<v Speaker 1>a part of our fleet. Sometimes they were just an

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<v Speaker 1>know they didn't work out that way. But whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>to that point, so I pulled it up on Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it says, while exact numbers for only Air Force

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<v Speaker 1>bases aren't specified, the US Air Force officially investigated over

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand, six hundred UFO now UAP sidings through Project

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, just from forty seven to sixty nine, twelve twelve thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>Over twelve six Wow. Now that base said that timeframe

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that ties in though with everyone you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's that far advanced, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>All they do every single day for decades is try

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<v Speaker 4>I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm gonna put this into perspective for people,

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<v Speaker 1>off with it or not. Okay, our biggest adversaries on

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<v Speaker 1>The nuclear powered bomb that China and Rush are touting

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<v Speaker 1>is like this big advancement and whatever. We had that

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians came up with this response. It was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>it to look at it and see what the Russians

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<v Speaker 2>Taculia acquired it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was essentially duct taped together with hopes and dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was It looked big and bad. It had

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<v Speaker 1>Now look at the tech that Russia has come out

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that it's still not even close to where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're decades behind us at best.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking about their hypersonics and all these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>by there they finished one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because we took all the Nazi scientists.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that is because of Nazi scientists, but also

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<v Speaker 1>because capitalism is just in and of itself. When a

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<v Speaker 1>go for the lowest bidder, but the highest competitor and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things, we get a whole slew of companies

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<v Speaker 1>Communistic states I keep China and Russia, they would go

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<v Speaker 1>off of one of their boys who may or may

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<v Speaker 1>when you have communism, you have super high levels of corruption,

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<v Speaker 1>which I understand happens in a capitalist society as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but not to the extent that the communist corruption takes place.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can't tell you how many military units in

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Russia. The top general would sell off all their tanks,

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<v Speaker 1>another country. That happened on that like hundreds of times

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<v Speaker 1>on repeat. I didn't know that, Yeah, now a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them. It's true. Why would you want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>being a multi millionaire and just change your.

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<v Speaker 2>Name because you know, the Russians.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're turning your back on your culture. But fuck

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<v Speaker 1>your culture, you know, damn whatever. Anyway, whatever, Communism is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst human existence experiment that's ever been conducted, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the talk for another day.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound was like, so they're behind decades behind us. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so in forty seven to sixty nine, we're more advanced

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<v Speaker 2>and had the little drido flying around potentially potentially and

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<v Speaker 2>they just didn't they just release that though, like what

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<v Speaker 2>eight years ago or something or they it came out

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<v Speaker 2>like they showed photographs of it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, we were using that stealth bomber. Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a newer one that I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a movie of Navy seals with your boy Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Russell where they flew in on one of those stealth

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<v Speaker 1>bombers and connected to the bottom of a plane. In

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties, that's fair, But in the forties and fifties

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<v Speaker 1>and sixties that we weren't going to discuss our latest mriders.

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<v Speaker 2>This one, I'm thinking about the the newest one they released.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep coming out with new crash.

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<v Speaker 2>Every every year. I feel like it's something new.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the other thing too. Even when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about these air platforms like the F thirty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>or is the F twenty five or thirty five rather Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. They're made for different purposes. If you

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<v Speaker 1>go one v one the F thirty five versus the

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<v Speaker 1>F twenty two, the F twenty two is going to

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<v Speaker 1>beat it seven times out of ten. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go five on five F thirty fives and F twenty twos,

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<v Speaker 1>the F thirty fives are gonna wax that ass every

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<v Speaker 1>single time. Because they are made to have smart computers

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<v Speaker 1>that work off of the other air assets. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>different scope for a different mission. Meanwhile, no other country

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<v Speaker 1>because even the f thirty fives that we sell to

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm gonna be real with you. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know a bunch about the aircrafts, That's right. It's I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like all men that I am friends with that

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<v Speaker 2>I know that we're in the military are like super

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<v Speaker 2>nerds when it comes to like weapons and aircrafts. It's

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<v Speaker 1>It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a man thing that's just like man, these

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<v Speaker 2>are so cool. But then it draws me back to

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<v Speaker 2>like little kids playing with like you know, the tanks

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<v Speaker 2>and all the different things, and I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all just still big kids at one point where

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had I had the whole you remember

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<v Speaker 2>the little plastic map of your g I. Joe's and

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<v Speaker 2>you had like the different elevation levels on the map,

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<v Speaker 2>super about my g I. Joe's like hardcore. I had

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<v Speaker 2>like whole campaign battles that would happen, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>like base them off of like different movies my dad

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<v Speaker 2>war movie person. Yeah, I mean every single movie possible

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever been made, I have likely seen at least

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<v Speaker 2>one time. Yeah, some of them are like more than others.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of them he would I mean he would

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<v Speaker 2>rewor watch the same ones like hundreds and hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of times. So here I was with my own

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<v Speaker 2>little battleground that was happening, and then I got tanks,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember one Christmas, I got little tanks and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a whole thing, say the whole thing for years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was probably too long, Like I probably played

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<v Speaker 1>with them way too like later in life than I

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<v Speaker 1>should have, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to like aircrafts, I'm like, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually know, but I mean that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ties in me being a little bit afraid of you folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the fair enough, fair enough. But my point is, though, America,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're looking at our missile capabilities are flight capabilities,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we are. I am being very generous when I

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<v Speaker 1>say best case scenario fifty years ahead of our competition,

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario for like thirty years. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even it's not even like a real close debatable conversation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So that being said, some of these UFO and UAP

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<v Speaker 1>sidings throughout the decades have been experimental craft. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can get down on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but out of twelve six hundred and just that

423
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<v Speaker 2>short amount of time, you're telling me every single one

424
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<v Speaker 2>of them, Like, there's no way there's even in the

425
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<v Speaker 2>best case we'll say we'll say ten thousand, six hundred

426
00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.319
<v Speaker 2>of them were experimental. You're still looking at two thousand

427
00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of them they are.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Like, that's what I'm saying. Statistically, even if twelve six

429
00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about from forty seven to sixty nine, a

430
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<v Speaker 1>little over twenty years. Okay, if one percent of those claims,

431
00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.079
<v Speaker 1>which for the record usually is around three to five percent,

432
00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that's unexplained. But let's just be very generous. One percent

433
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<v Speaker 1>of that is actual UFOs they couldn't explain. Okay, we're

434
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<v Speaker 1>still talking about over the course of twenty years, one

435
00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty six give or take sightings explaining that, yeah,

436
00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.799
<v Speaker 1>UFOs are real. And that was just until sixty nine.

437
00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just what I know. I found it

438
00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.799
<v Speaker 2>interesting when you looked it up that it only talked

439
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<v Speaker 2>about like it only brought up Project Blue Book. It

440
00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't actually give you like more statistics about recent.

441
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<v Speaker 1>But kind of yes, kind of no. So let's go

442
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<v Speaker 1>in even further here. Total sightings twelve six hundred and

443
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<v Speaker 1>eighteen reported to Project blue Book right unidentified still to

444
00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.599
<v Speaker 1>this day, seven hundred and one of the twelve.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Six seven hundred and one.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, we're being super generous, say one hundred

447
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and twenty six, it's actually a higher number than that,

448
00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:55.039
<v Speaker 1>and these have never been understood, identified by any means,

449
00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>or at least what they'll allow us to know. Right.

450
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<v Speaker 1>But now let's cut to specific base incidents because this

451
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<v Speaker 1>will start the conversation for our episode today, good cult members.

452
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.559
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about Vanderberg Air Force Base here, and

453
00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>at the time it was in fact an air force base,

454
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<v Speaker 1>which cool things. Cool things now Vanderberg, it's brought up twice,

455
00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.319
<v Speaker 1>but for this specific example, we're going to talk about

456
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<v Speaker 1>the more recent occurrence Vanderberg Air Force Base two thousand

457
00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and three to two thousand and five. Multiple personnel reported

458
00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:31.039
<v Speaker 1>large silent, glowing red squares and triangular crafts hovering and

459
00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:34.519
<v Speaker 1>moving it impossible speeds near launch sites and over the

460
00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:40.319
<v Speaker 1>installation launch sites. You may ask, were launching yeah, nukes.

461
00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I thought we were done experimenting with nukes,

462
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.799
<v Speaker 2>so I thought we weren't launching them for any reason

463
00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:47.599
<v Speaker 2>any longer.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So when we talk about Vanderberg, there's two occurrences

465
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<v Speaker 1>that typically come up when we're talking about the UFO

466
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and UAP conversation. One dates back to nineteen sixty four,

467
00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.839
<v Speaker 1>and it was a test launch of a nuclear rocket.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were still doing that.

469
00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Now two thousand and three. The launch site is still there,

470
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the underground silos with nukes ready to go off just

471
00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>in case somebody gets squirrely kind of thing. Yeah, but

472
00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the events that took place didn't necessarily have to do

473
00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:13.519
<v Speaker 1>with the nukes, Like they weren't testing them. They weren't

474
00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.119
<v Speaker 1>like going through the procedures and nothing like that. Nobody

475
00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 1>can really explain what took place over the course of

476
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>two years at this base where there was five occurrences

477
00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that have all been reported and documented and are now

478
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 1>being openly discussed in Congress. Oh, but the nineteen sixty

479
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>four event is where we're going to kind of start

480
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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Actually, know what I think we're actually going

481
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to start the conversation into that. Yeah, we're gonna start

482
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<v Speaker 1>with the more recent and then we're going to go

483
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<v Speaker 1>back to the nineteen sixty four to talk about that

484
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<v Speaker 1>more predominantly. Now here we go, just so we're all

485
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<v Speaker 1>clear about the nineteen six or I said sixty four,

486
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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, sixty eight occurrence. Here we go, nineteen I

487
00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>messed up. It's nineteen sixty four.

488
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, my reading is, oh no, but it did actually

489
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>say sixty eight in the top part and it's highlighted

490
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.200
<v Speaker 2>dated sixty eight, and then it starts off with nineteen

491
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<v Speaker 2>sixty four sole incident.

492
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<v Speaker 1>So nineteen forty four missile incident in September of nineteen

493
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<v Speaker 1>sixty four. A former first Lieutenant Robert Jacobs put a

494
00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>pin in that name because we're going to hear from

495
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the man. The myth legend himself later in this episode,

496
00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>claimed his film crew recorded a saucer shaped object flying

497
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:20.400
<v Speaker 1>around a test Atlas missile's warhead during a launch test

498
00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and firing a beam of light at it before the

499
00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:25.759
<v Speaker 1>warhead fell into the ocean. The project engineer at the time,

500
00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Kingston George, later argued that Jacobs mistook the deployment of

501
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:35.079
<v Speaker 1>decoy warheads and chaff designed to prevent interception for extraterrestrial interference,

502
00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.759
<v Speaker 1>a detailed Jacobs was not cleared to know. Okay, we're

503
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear about the case in a bit. The video

504
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 1>shows a saucer that is flying way too fast for

505
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the human eye to catch. The only way they caught

506
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>it was because the Air Force at the time was

507
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>using a camera with a frame rate of like one

508
00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 1>hundred frames per second. For this specific test, they had

509
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to get a specific camera brought in via crane that

510
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.759
<v Speaker 1>was going on thousand frames per second, and he was

511
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 1>able to catch a saucer that flew around the warhead,

512
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>shot three beams of light at it and then dipped out.

513
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And Yeah, I was gonna say, I was like firing

514
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 2>beams of light. I was like, do we even have

515
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 2>that capability quote unquote so.

516
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh no no, And the video shows if you count

517
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the frames, we're talking about it traveling legitimate mock fuck

518
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not oh, this was going hundreds of feet

519
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>per second. No, we're talking about like, we don't have

520
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>the materials that could go that fast.

521
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:26.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

522
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 2>What was that other episode you me and Jonathan did

523
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 2>about the sightings where they had like the slant the

524
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's a really famous one we were talking about, and

525
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.599
<v Speaker 2>they had the ones that went really really fast and

526
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't they couldn't keep track of it, and they

527
00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 2>like it like zoomed off and then came back and

528
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>then slowed down and stopped and then boom boom back again.

529
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I forget. There's so many damn UFO sightings that it's

530
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:48.480
<v Speaker 2>like you can't even keep up.

531
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<v Speaker 1>But that's my point, the best we can do. And

532
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about the stealth aircraft again, if you look at

533
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 1>how those stealth aircraft are made, they're built from titanium

534
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>because when you're going that fast, you're literally fighting against

535
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the friction of the air molecules that it is cutting through,

536
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and that thing gets hot as fuck and you can't

537
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>use ceramics for that, so they had to use titanium.

538
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>When it's on the ground, it's like got gaps and

539
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's barely hailed together with a dream.

540
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It leaks fuel on the flight deck because the seals

541
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>are not fully closed all the way, because once it

542
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>gets up to speed, the heat makes everything expand and

543
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>everything seals up properly.

544
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't know that it's really fascinating.

545
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:29.640
<v Speaker 1>It's fucking mind blowing.

546
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they figure that out, honestly.

547
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:33.839
<v Speaker 1>It's actually crazy if you look at how we got

548
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the titanium, because we had to get it from Soviet

549
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Rush at the time, because they're the only ones that

550
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>were doing titanium forging, and we told them that we

551
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>were making some really really specific pizza ovens, and that's

552
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.839
<v Speaker 1>how they sold what. I shit you, we actually made

553
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to do an episode on that one.

554
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Yo.

555
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even I don't know a lot about it,

556
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, So that'd be fascinating, Medica.

557
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Why do you need forty tons of this specific titanium?

558
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>We are building a really crazy experimental line of pizza. Yeah,

559
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 1>fo titanium.

560
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's New York and Chicago be where it's at, dude,

561
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>cut to.

562
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 1>We now have one of the most insane stealth fighters

563
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>stealth bombers to ever exist. That again, no other country

564
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 1>on Earth is even based.

565
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Off of a UFO that they actually got and they

566
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 2>were trying to replicate that technology.

567
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 1>The one I'm talking about is one of the hard angles.

568
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 1>It looks like a minecraft.

569
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Plane almost, you know, that's what I'm talking about.

570
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>That I don't think was replicated off of alien tech

571
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>because if you look at a lot of the alien crafts,

572
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 1>they are super smooth. There's very few hard angles on

573
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>that that was built specifically to fight the certain radar

574
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 1>systems that were being used during that day and age,

575
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>because radar systems are looking for a smooth surface and

576
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:46.559
<v Speaker 1>then it could bounce back and it takes that reading

577
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>for the speed and all these things. Those hard angles

578
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 1>basically take the reading and make it shoot off in

579
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>different directions to make it stef Okay.

580
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just it's I wonder how many

581
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>different aircrafts they've actually obtained from UFOs, different types and

582
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 2>different I mean, if we're arguing that there's different type

583
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of aliens, and I wonder how many different types of

584
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>crafts they have.

585
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear from a guy later that says where

586
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it's over seventy known species of aliens.

587
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Of course, the fucking all.

588
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 1>And we only have made deals with like five.

589
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Man, can we just get a nice one?

590
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Can we just get like a they're real like, according

591
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>to the guy we're gonna hear later, there are some

592
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 1>that are more kind they're not here to help humanity,

593
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>but they're also not here to hurt us. They're just

594
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of chilling. They're doing their thing, you know, and

595
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>if they give us some tech and it helps us out,

596
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>then gucci. But like that's not the whole reason they

597
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 1>made the trip to Earth. And there's the other types

598
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>that are absolutely trying to fuck our shit up. But

599
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get to all this animal bit good cult

600
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>members anyway. All right, So we're at the so, yeah, four,

601
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we talked about that. He's saying that this this thing

602
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that was in the sky that you can clearly see

603
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>fly into frame, shoot beams of light and they leave

604
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the frame. That was chaff, that was that was trash

605
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that was in the air to stop counter missile. And

606
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, there's counter missile measure within a few hundred

607
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>feet of the launch site. They're sitting like miles in

608
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the sky. This was a few hundred feet from launch site,

609
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>So that that checks out totally.

610
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Of course.

611
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Of course, anyway, we're gonna talk about that one. But

612
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 1>let's start off with the two thousand and three siding.

613
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>An Air Force veteran and former Navy pilot testified to

614
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 1>a Congressional panel about multiple UAP incidents between two thousand

615
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and three and two thousand and five. The most prominent was

616
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the sighting of a quote, very large, one hundred yards

617
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>sided red square that hovered silently over a launch facility

618
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>before darting off with incredible speed. Security guards reported, Yeah,

619
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>like a floating red.

620
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Cube, a gelatinous cube, possibly fucking gelatinous cubes. Those that

621
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 2>haven't ever seen onward would not understand. It's a kid's movie.

622
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic yo, and he's like, who's a gelatinos cube?

623
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 6>Bro?

624
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 1>And also if you played Minecraft, you know what that's

625
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about. That them things suck.

626
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they just they eat everything. They're like an acid

627
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 2>filled cube that like destroy all life.

628
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 1>In Minecraft, when you the ones that start off are

629
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 1>super huge, and you break that down breaks off into

630
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>three smaller ones, and you have to kill all those,

631
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and those break off in the three small ones. There's

632
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like four levels of cubes you have to kill before

633
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 1>you can finally be done with it. It's a pain

634
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in the ass.

635
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 2>It reminds you of The Blob. Yeah, the movie The Blob.

636
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Those that haven't seen it way back in the day.

637
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so it hovered silently over a launch facility

638
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>before darting off. Security guards reported other more aggressive, fast

639
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>moving objects later that evening. So okay, but further adode,

640
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the backstory of Vanderberg Space Force space because.

641
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know a bunch about Space Space Force.

642
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you.

643
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>They are the super nerds of the military, and I'm

644
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest, on some scale, I am jealous of them.

645
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Low key. I would totally want to join this group.

646
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 1>You've seen their uniforms, right.

647
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 2>No, I actually have no. I I've never seen them.

648
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh, good cult members. We're going to explore this together,

649
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>hold on space.

650
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>When I say I don't know a bunch about them,

651
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kind of like, I really don't know a bunch.

652
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>But okay, So I'm gonna be honest with you. The

653
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Space Force dress Blues are pretty pimp nasty. I am

654
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 1>not saying. I'm not saying they're equal to the Marine Corps.

655
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>For obvious reasons, they will never did this.

656
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>They remind me of a couple old movies.

657
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they're called guardians. Also, they're not Space Force sets.

658
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>They are Space Force Guardians. The Army has soldiers. The

659
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Navy has said, I mean.

660
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 2>How can we join? Can we join? Are we too old?

661
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>They have specifics, they have specific jobs that we you

662
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>might you might have a job set that they would

663
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 1>be able to use. There is no place in the

664
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Space Force for a former grunt, come to find out.

665
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I am salty about that, because I was going to

666
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>look into joining the Space Force reserves. You're telling me

667
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>once a month I get to go to fucking space

668
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 1>camp the fuck and get paid and try Carrie and

669
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I actually join.

670
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if I'm too old though, like straight up.

671
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>So this is, as of now, the smallest branch of

672
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the United States Military. I think they have under twenty

673
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>five thousand guardians.

674
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So I guess my project. My project today is to

675
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>see if I can join. I did hold a top

676
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 2>secret clearance, so maybe as.

677
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Did I, but yours was for more practical means. Yeah

678
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 1>that's fair, But I don't know because they deal with

679
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot with the satellites, and you with your comed,

680
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 1>actually have quite a.

681
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Bit of knowledge when it comes to satellite So.

682
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Stand by, everybody might be going Space Force.

683
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And if I go Space Force, so I'm gonna be watched.

684
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>So heavily because of this damn podcast.

685
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, Hindsight twenty twenty, you may not be able

686
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to join because affiliations.

687
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know everybody. If I have a way, I

688
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>will let everyone know quietly aka the Internet.

689
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>But we had a Space Force major come on the

690
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>show at one point and tell us, yeah, me and

691
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan had him two years ago. He was in charge

692
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of four hundred satellites himself, and then I mentioned that

693
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>they were about to send him to specialized weapons training

694
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, old fuck on, Major, what kind of

695
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 1>special weapons training does the Space Force need with four

696
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 1>hundred satellites? And he would not explain any bit of that.

697
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>He he was very the satellite people that worked with us.

698
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>So we had two guys that came to us. So, actually,

699
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>satellites is their own special MOS within Marine Corps in communications,

700
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's not a bunch of them, there's a whole

701
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.079
<v Speaker 2>well at the time. I don't know nowadays, but I

702
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 2>don't want.

703
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Marine talking of satellites. I get it.

704
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>So they had a ton but like I actually asked

705
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a ton of questions when it came to satellites because

706
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to do with them and how they work,

707
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and how they orbit and how they like talk to

708
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 2>each other, and like it's just it's a ton of information.

709
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious. I love the uniform. What does that

710
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 2>remind me of? There's a movie that star Trek Well, true,

711
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>but there's there's a specific movie that reminds me of.

712
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a Kurt Russell movie. Actually, mm hmmmm,

713
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I actually really want to weary one. I'm not gonna lie.

714
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Like all jokes aside and I understand or they are

715
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a product or the Year Force, but we're gonna shot

716
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 1>on them for their own reasons.

717
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what, bro that is today? Today is the

718
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 2>day I'm going to look into potentially joining and said

719
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Space Force.

720
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't see why not.

721
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a great day, all right, tell me about

722
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 2>this whole Vanderberg situation.

723
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So let's get into the history and heritage

724
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>of Vanderberg Space Force Base. And they talk about space

725
00:32:58.599 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>launch del to thirty. We're not going to get into

726
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 1>that one, but anyway, so, Vanderberg Space Force Base currently

727
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>contains ninety nine over ninety nine thousand acres of land.

728
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>It operates approximately sixteen launch facilities and complexes, and maintains

729
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the second largest airfield runway in the Department of Defense

730
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Department of War, which is thirteen or sorry, fifteen thousand

731
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 1>feet long.

732
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>That's massive, by the way. That is ninety nine thousand

733
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>acres for a random Air Force space Force base. Yep,

734
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing under the ground, nothing to.

735
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>See here, but sixteen launch facilities. The installation provides a

736
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>safe location for the testing of new and existing Department

737
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of War sanctioned programs, government and commercial launch and range services,

738
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 1>as well as offers future spacelift and land based mission

739
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>capabilities in support of the national defense strategy. Vanderberg was

740
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 1>originally established as the Camp Cook US Army Garrison in

741
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>August of nineteen forty one. So this is before the

742
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Air Force, right, because at the time it was the

743
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Army Air Corps. Right. If you look at any of

744
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 1>these pilots from World War Two, these pilots weren't Air

745
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Force pilots, they were Army Air pilots.

746
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

747
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 1>So the installation was used for Army tank, infantry and

748
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>artillery training during World War Two and again during the

749
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Korean War. In nineteen fifty seven, however, the installation property

750
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 1>was transferred to the recently established US Air Force. It

751
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>was soon transformed into the nation's West coast space and

752
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>missile facility that it is now Vanderberg SFB Space Force Base.

753
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>The unique geographical location of Vanderberg makes this major range

754
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 1>and test facility based a safe and ideal setting to

755
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 1>test LAMB based strategic deterrent assets and to safely place

756
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>satellite payloads into polar Earth orbit. So continuing on here,

757
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>the requirement for the US the United States to construct

758
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a large launch facility on the West Coast derived from

759
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the need to match the overcome, excuse me, match and

760
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>overcome Russia space launch capabilities during the Cold War, which

761
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is crazy to me because they only have one spot

762
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in all of Russia that can launch anything into space,

763
00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's in Kazakhstan. Like Russia proper has no launch

764
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>facilities that could put something into space, but at the

765
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>time it was the Soviet Union. We just learned about

766
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that just a couple of weeks ago, as a matter of fact,

767
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>because Russia fucked up their only launch pad like this

768
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>happened last week. Well as of time of recording last week,

769
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't.

770
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Really understand how they fucked shit up so much like

771
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>they consistently fuck sit up.

772
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think, honestly, this is the same launch pad

773
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that has been used for every single Russian space operation

774
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>since the beginning.

775
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Of the Cold Yeah, well that makes sense that they

776
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>haven't repaired it and they've been using the same spot

777
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. I could understand that,

778
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, come on, man, how can you keep

779
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking shit up so much?

780
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>So it was two Russian cosmonauts and one American astronaut

781
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 1>that was on the Shuttle when the launch pad sucked up. No, no, no, no,

782
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the launch was successful, but the thrust from the rockets

783
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 1>fucked up the launch pad itself and it can't be

784
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>used right now.

785
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Well, I'm glad that they didn't die.

786
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, everybody's cool. Everybody made it to the ISS

787
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's all there. I know some people think space

788
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is faking gate. This beside the point we're talking about UFOs.

789
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 1>So for this episode, good cult members, let's just assume

790
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>that space is reel and planets are real and all

791
00:35:59.079 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>these things.

792
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>But if you think space is faking gay but believe

793
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in you of foes.

794
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>They're demons. Obviously they're demons. Raven I mean, but or

795
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>inter dimensional or time travelers.

796
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I do believe in multi dimensions, so

797
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that's the same, and I do believe that there's things

798
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>down below us or potentially in Antarctica, But like, I don't.

799
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't quite understand the conversation about space being fakeing

800
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 2>gay when like we can physically see it, but.

801
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 1>They think we're looking at the firmament and that the

802
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 1>stars are just pinholes so we could breathe. Oh, I've tried.

803
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I've tried to out having so many conversations with flat earthers.

804
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, I mean, if that's what they believe, like

805
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm totally here for it, But I just am kind

806
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of confused in the sense of there's so much evidence

807
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 2>in we know that we there is multiple universes without

808
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>with say we're even in a little globe or we

809
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>have a flat Earth and the multi dimensions. Okay, I

810
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>can get down with that. I can believe that, but

811
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 2>it's still acknowledging though that there's like but there's still

812
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>more up or at least below both Like I don't,

813
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

814
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I've had these conversations. I personally believe that interdimensional travel

815
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 1>is very possible.

816
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I think they already do it. I think that it's

817
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>or at least we're almost there. If we haven't achieved it,

818
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I believe that it's like a cunt hair away from

819
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>doing it.

820
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>But think about it like this, and I've tried, given

821
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this example, what if what we are calling air dimensional

822
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 1>travel is what the alien races would call the interstate, Right,

823
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>They're not tearing through fabric of time and space just

824
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to do things. They're doing it to jump from two

825
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 1>black holes. Very well? Could be the.

826
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Black holes make a lot more sense to me because

827
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>of how time is time, like the one thing we

828
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>know is completely different in three parts of it. Yeah,

829
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and it just I'm not like the most knowledgeable when

830
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>it comes to all this. I'm definitely still learning. But

831
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 2>just the little knowledge I do know, it doesn't make

832
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to me that there is at least

833
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>they're coming from outer space. They're coming from not all

834
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>of them. I do believe that there are some here

835
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>already on Earth, even if we have colonies potentially or

836
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 2>whatever is going on, but that I don't think that

837
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 2>it equals every single alien species or every single alien

838
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that we've seen. I believe they're coming from up above us,

839
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>and they're coming in from different areas and stuff like that.

840
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I agree personally, But then there's that's the thing. If

841
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 1>you get five not even flat earthers, if you get

842
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.119
<v Speaker 1>five different alien believers in a room, you get five

843
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>different opinions on what they are. Again, some people believe,

844
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 1>they don't believe in aliens, believe in angels, and demons

845
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>absolutely believe that these are interdimensional beings.

846
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>A demons need spacecrafts to travel around.

847
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've asked this question because all accounts if.

848
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>We're talking, I'm not trying to shit on nobody. I'm

849
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 2>just honestly, just like thoughts that are coming to my head,

850
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering, why would they need a spacecraft to

851
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>travel around?

852
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So per biblical sources, they don't need that. They pop

853
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>in and out of our physical realm when they see fit,

854
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's always made sense to me. But they bring

855
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>up a few examples of from the Old Testament, when

856
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Moses was getting his people out and across the Red Sea,

857
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>these angels came down in chariots of fire. Well why

858
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>do angels chariots? Well, okay, fine, but my point is,

859
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>why did the angels need chariots of fire. If they

860
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't this and this, and like, okay, I hear this. However,

861
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>could it be that they were on the war path

862
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they were in a war chariot?

863
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that makes sense to me, considering how chariots

864
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>were and stuff. But I just don't quite understand some

865
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that people think. But I mean, it

866
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't bother me that this is their thought pattern. I

867
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 2>think it's interesting that there's so many different theories when

868
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>it is in pertaining two different alien UFOs, the sightings,

869
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 2>who's here, who's actually not here, what they're gonna do?

870
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at this point, none of us know for

871
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 2>certain because everything is hidden and redacted in all the crap.

872
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>We know that they're here, we know that they've been here. Yep,

873
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what kind or who they are? That still seems to

874
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>be kind of a mystery. I think they did release

875
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that there's like they talked about in Congress, confirming that

876
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>there was like three different types.

877
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna hear about more of that later, right,

878
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think we may have made deals with three types,

879
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>but there could be up to seventy, of course I

880
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But so anyway, cut into They built this

881
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>base to be a response to Russia's space capabilities, which

882
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>again is crazy to me because at the time, Kazakhstan

883
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 1>was a part of the Soviet Union. Any country out

884
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>there that has a stand in the name at one

885
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>point was a part of the Soviet Union. And Kazakhstan

886
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is the only launch pad that the entirety of Russia

887
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>has ever had and still has to this day. They're

888
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>not a part of Russia. But I think it's very

889
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 1>similar to how we have like military bases in other

890
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 1>countries that we bought the land. Kurdistan, well, Kurdistan's kirk Curtisan.

891
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been there.

892
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Twice, Kirkdistan. If I said Kurdistan's on a place, I

893
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 1>wish it would be a place. But that's a geopolitical

894
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 1>conversation for another night. But like Djibouti, we own land

895
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 1>in Jibouti. We own land in Cuba, Guantanamo.

896
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Bet I loved the names of places.

897
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jibuti, Djibouti. That was the capital city of the nation,

898
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and the entire.

899
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Country definitely named that.

900
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>That would be the French, believe it or not.

901
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm just giving you.

902
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and those people are starving and they're all drug addicts.

903
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole thing. It's Africa. What do you expect Anyway,

904
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Beside the point, so continuing on here, this base in

905
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Vanderberg was built to be a response to the Soviet

906
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Union's abilities at the time, which is crazy to me.

907
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But moving on, Russia launched its first man made satellite, Sputnik,

908
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>into low Earth orbit on the fourth of October nineteen

909
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven, which started the quote unquote space race between

910
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the United States and Russia. In response to the Sputnik

911
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>launch of the United States Air Force accelerated the development

912
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of the space and missile program that it was in

913
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 1>that was at the time in its infancy. On January first,

914
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eighth, Strategic Air Command SAC or SAC assumed

915
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>responsibility for attaining the initial operational capability of the US

916
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>land based Strategic Deterrent Missile Force. God, it's a mouthful,

917
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 1>as well as conducting training for missile launch crews. Air

918
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Research and Development Command or art C retained responsibility for

919
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the Vanderberg launch facility construction as well as concurrently conduct

920
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 1>research and development for launch vehicles. So anyway we're going

921
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a list of the highlights of some things and

922
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>some dates of what took place at this area. Coolkoo

923
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Cool now cut to the United States Space Force. On

924
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the twentieth of December nineteen or twenty nineteen, the President

925
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of the United States, DONNYE. T signed into law the

926
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty National Defense Authorization Act to establish the

927
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>sixth Uniform Military Branch of the Department of Defense. At

928
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 1>that time it was still the DoD. Now it is

929
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the Department of War. All mission sets and personnel assigned

930
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 1>to the previous Air Force Space Command were reassigned to

931
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 1>the United States Space Force with the establishment of the

932
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Space Force. The fourteenth Air Force and Air Force Space

933
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Command marked the end of the Air Force lineage, and

934
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>all missions in personnel were reassigned into the newly designated

935
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Space Operations Command or SPOC. The Space Force organizational structure

936
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is streamlined to support rapid commander taskings. The numbers air

937
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Force and group echelons of command previously found in the

938
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Air Force organizational structure are removed in the Space Force,

939
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 1>and the former thirtieth Operations Group and thirtieth Missions Groups

940
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 1>ended their lineage with the establishment of the Space Launched

941
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Delta thirty on the fourteenth of May twenty twenty one.

942
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>On thirteenth of August twenty twenty one, Space Systems Command

943
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 1>reorganized to become a field command with the United States

944
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Space Force to manage launch and range operations at the

945
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Eastern and Western Ranges. Space Operations Command relinquishes parent headquarter

946
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 1>authority over Space Launch Delta thirty and the Delta became

947
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 1>assigned to the newly established Space Systems Command. So again

948
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that we just went over in

949
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a very condensed amount of time. But long story short,

950
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 1>this base Vanderberg originally was an Army base that was

951
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>used for regular Army training. Cut to it became a

952
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Air Force base specifically for launching and testing in R

953
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 1>and D. Then in twenty twenty it became a part

954
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Space Force. So that is why we're going

955
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to hear some of these things being used interchangeably right now,

956
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 1>especially when we hear some eyewitness testimonies. But the years

957
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that they are talking about from two thousand and three

958
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five it was an Air Force base

959
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and from the sixty four it was an Air Force

960
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>base as well. So just we're clear that is the

961
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>chain of custody. Anyway, Let's get into the next topic here,

962
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>all right. So now we are going to go to

963
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Euphouria UFOARA dot com dot net. Excuse me, yeah, I

964
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>do dig the website. I do. And let's learn a

965
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit about the situation at hand here. Again, we

966
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 1>are not going to nineteen sixty four just yet. We

967
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>are sticking to the two thousand and three situation. From

968
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three to two thousand and five, some

969
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 1>wild things went down over here at Vanderberg Air Force

970
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Base now space Force base. Let's talk about it here.

971
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Former Navy pilot testifies about two thousand and three UFO

972
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sighting over Vanderberg Air Force Base. This article is written

973
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, so it also bothers me that

974
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>you know that it's a space Force base now, But

975
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess the report was down walls an air force whatever. Anyway.

976
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 1>In the congressional hearing on July twenty six, twenty twenty three,

977
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>former US Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves testified about a

978
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three incident involving a massive unidentified flying

979
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 1>object over Vanderberg Air Force Base in California. Graves, now

980
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the executive director full of Americans for Safe Aerospace.

981
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting title.

982
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Americans for Safe Aerospace. What I didn't know that agency existed.

983
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that existed either, But now I'm kind

984
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>of curious about it.

985
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's one of those government nonprofits to be

986
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>taken that momney. But anyway, beside the point, here he

987
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 1>related accounts from Boeing contractors who reported witnessing a one

988
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>hundred yard sighted red square UFO approaching the base from

989
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the ocean and hovering at low altitude over a launch facility. Now,

990
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.119
<v Speaker 1>before we continue here, the UFOs that most people en

991
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>mass describe. We've heard of the flying tic TACs. Yes,

992
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.599
<v Speaker 1>we've heard of the flying triangles. We hear of the

993
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>flying orbs, some saucer activity whatever.

994
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 2>That big rectangle thing.

995
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>The rectangles are the outlier.

996
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I've only honestly heard of a few just from you guys.

997
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Actually, right, there are reports of these rectangles or squares

998
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 1>or for lack of better words, gelatinous glowing cubes that

999
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 1>are in the sky from time to time. That is

1000
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the rarity as far as.

1001
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>The weird like, that's a weird shape.

1002
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 1>And a one hundred yard square at that and it

1003
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 1>says sighted too. So it's not like I want people

1004
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to picture this if you've ever played Minecraft, the clouds

1005
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>what I.

1006
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Knew you were going to bring into Minecraft.

1007
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of something that can make sense

1008
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 1>to people if you've ever played Minecraft and no, no, no,

1009
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the size, Yes, I'm talking about like a cube, like,

1010
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 1>don't think of a floating square. I know there's going

1011
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 1>to be people that are saying that, like on Psychedelics,

1012
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many fractals and you just see these

1013
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 1>floating triangles and squares exactly think of it. It's a

1014
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>sighted cube, So I don't. Then they say a sided square.

1015
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I am not sure if it's more of the cube variety,

1016
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>rectangle variety, whatever the case would be. But one hundred

1017
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>yards at least surface level, and then there is obvious

1018
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>sides to it, and it's glowing and it's red.

1019
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of freaky, to be honest with you. I

1020
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>mean I would be like, is this a giant Minecraft block? Like?

1021
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, do we step into the over ward?

1022
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Is this a big ass mine clos Like? Okay, I

1023
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>mean it's it's weird. It's weird shape though for UFO,

1024
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>like of all the different types.

1025
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You give me shit for bringing up Minecraft, but then

1026
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>whenever I describe it, it's like I don't know another

1027
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 1>version that could make that kind of.

1028
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Makes Honestly, I'm just thinking about the gelatin this cuban Onward.

1029
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm gonna be real with you, if I was

1030
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 2>to pick something, I'm just thinking about that slow moving

1031
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>gelatinus Cube's terrifying.

1032
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Like the whole time he looked like like a silly,

1033
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 1>silly big brother for bringing up until he got that

1034
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 1>movie is so underrated. It especially the greatest movie Onward

1035
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is great. There was a couple of scenes that didn't

1036
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 1>need to be in it. That's fair, right, but like

1037
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>they didn't need to there was certain points when they

1038
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 1>took it to the spin that didn't need to go there.

1039
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Aside from these very rare few times, it was a

1040
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.559
<v Speaker 1>super underrated movie.

1041
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>It was a solid movie. But I will say, like

1042
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 2>a I can see how a Minecraft cube would make

1043
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense, But why a cube though, of

1044
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 2>all the ways to travel, it just seems like an

1045
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>odd way to wouldn't it get like more drag on

1046
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the sides because of the sharp angles versus like a

1047
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 2>sphere or.

1048
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.519
<v Speaker 1>So you bring up a very good point, and here

1049
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 1>is the weird counterpoint to it. Okay, these crafts are

1050
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>doing things that defy all physics. They are droppings, I

1051
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 1>guess I mean human physics. I should say, yeah, they

1052
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>are going from thirty thousand feet to three and under

1053
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 1>one second if you do the math on that be Honestly.

1054
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm trying to like visualize in my head

1055
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>of how fast it is, and like I just can't.

1056
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what. You know, we've talked about this

1057
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>on the show before, but for this episode, we're gonna

1058
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>redo some quick figure right here. So thirty thousand feet

1059
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in one second, and we're gonna convert that to miles

1060
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>per hours, just so we're all on the same page

1061
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>of what kind of speed we're talking about here. Okay,

1062
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, this is literal mock fuck. Okay, we're talking

1063
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 1>about going over twenty thousand miles per hour.

1064
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I just I guess maybe like there's a

1065
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.079
<v Speaker 2>lot more of this than I would go.

1066
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>From thirty thousand to three feet. We can assume that's

1067
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 1>like thirty thousand feet per second. Okay, you know, actually

1068
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what feet per second converted to mph. Just

1069
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 1>so we're all all on the same page, cheer.

1070
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm curious to see what this is gonna say.

1071
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, thirty thousand feet per second is equal to

1072
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>approximately twenty thousand, four hundred and fifty four miles per hour.

1073
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That's so fast.

1074
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>And just so we're all clear here, speed of sound.

1075
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 1>And I understand as I typed this in a lot

1076
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of things different with this humidity, atmospheric pressure, all of

1077
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 1>these things. Pom pom pom gets you. I got it. Okay,

1078
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and forty three meters per second. Okay, the

1079
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 1>speed of sound is about seven hundred miles per hour. Wow,

1080
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and sixty one miles per hour. And that's

1081
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about twenty thousand and this isn't even

1082
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the fastest craft that they've caught on camera. This is

1083
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just the one that's more frequently seen.

1084
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy that they could catch it on the camera though,

1085
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>like real shit, like with our kind of technology, how

1086
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.519
<v Speaker 2>fast they could catch it. I'm surprised, honestly that they

1087
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>could catch that.

1088
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>So we are talking about something that's going mock fuck,

1089
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>which honestly, we don't have something that goes this fast.

1090
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 1>We don't have materials that can even be built, Like,

1091
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>we can't even build a missile to go this fast

1092
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because we don't have the at the atomic level the

1093
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 1>materials that they were going this fast or tear themselves apart.

1094
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>That's insane. If you think about the spaceship, it was

1095
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 2>going faster than a missile, like it would probably like

1096
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 2>slow down like the old road runner. Yeah, you know,

1097
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>go peep beep, and like, hey, that's crazy.

1098
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So as we're talking about why is it a cube,

1099
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it's we're not talking about something that is uh, you know,

1100
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>dealing with our laws of aerospace engineering or our laws

1101
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of physics.

1102
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 2>It's way above my pay grade. I'm gonna be honest

1103
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 2>with you. I'm terrible with masks.

1104
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So me and Jonathan thought about it. You and I

1105
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>can have these discussions like why a saucer, why an orb,

1106
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:48.679
<v Speaker 1>why a bell shaped?

1107
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Or makes sense to me? The orb makes sense to me,

1108
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 2>The bell shape, I mean kind of makes sense to me.

1109
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 2>The triangle makes sense to me.

1110
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe depends on it.

1111
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>It depends, yeah, I guess.

1112
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>But the tack the tack and then not only does

1113
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 1>it go down that fast. But then it goes into

1114
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 1>the water without making a splash and continues going that

1115
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 1>fast in water. I could see that I get thirty

1116
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 1>thousand miles per hour in water.

1117
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, liquid is easier to go through.

1118
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I would think we're talking it's a craft. Well, I

1119
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like a submarine on the descent goes down lower or

1120
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.039
<v Speaker 1>slower than a plane taking off. Right, So water, although

1121
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 1>sound travels faster through.

1122
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>It, yes, but it's denser. So okay.

1123
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 1>These crafts are able to go from thirty thousand feet

1124
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to three feet and then break the surface of the

1125
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>water without even causing so much as a ripple, and

1126
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>then continue down at the same speed that they were

1127
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 1>in the air. This is beyond physics.

1128
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, real shit, if these if these aliens

1129
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 2>want to take us over, like we hear nothing, like,

1130
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>we're nothing compared to these aliens the technology alone, We're

1131
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 2>just gonna be fucked.

1132
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's so back to that conversation. Is it possible

1133
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 1>that these are the space hippies that have this crazy.

1134
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I stand by that these are that they are scientists,

1135
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 2>not all of them. I stand by that there is

1136
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a majority of them that are here to be scientists

1137
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:20.559
<v Speaker 2>and that's.

1138
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily a good thing because like scientists were working

1139
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 1>with the Nazis in the Japanese and did a lot

1140
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 1>of atrocious things in the name of science. So like true,

1141
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>but just because they're scientists and academics does not mean

1142
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that like we're safe.

1143
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that, but I think that if they

1144
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a warring niche and they would have

1145
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 2>done it by now. I mean, we are more technically

1146
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.360
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote technical advanced than we have ever been before. True,

1147
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 2>So if they wanted to take us over Rome, what

1148
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 2>have we been a good time? Medieval times, before the

1149
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Industrial Revolution? I mean, there's many times throughout history where

1150
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 2>like human civilization, they couldn't we're gonna do throws beer

1151
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.039
<v Speaker 2>at somebody, like real shit.

1152
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So here's my and this is not like I'm not

1153
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to down this hill, but this is my counter

1154
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 1>argument to that, Okay. And I've had this debate with

1155
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 1>people in the comments section on different posts like oh,

1156
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>if America so advance, why don't we just go take

1157
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>over Mexico and Venezuela And why don't we just take

1158
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>them over? Because we're not a conquesting nation, even though

1159
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we have the ability to we just don't do that.

1160
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>We've done it before in the past, yes, never really

1161
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 1>worked out well for us. So now we're more about

1162
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like the third partying, you know what I mean, putting.

1163
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Somebody third party conquests.

1164
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's somebody who's very favorable to us, but is

1165
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 1>not us.

1166
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.679
<v Speaker 2>We look at human history though, like the people that

1167
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 2>did do massive conquests eventually failed and it toppled over.

1168
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least somebody could learn from Rome or

1169
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>con and like, you know, hey, maybe we shouldn't expand

1170
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 2>ourselves too much because then all of it will fail.

1171
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Now cut to galactic conversation. Why don't the aliens just

1172
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.800
<v Speaker 1>take us over? They have the technology, they could take

1173
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 1>us over literally and not feel that within a hour.

1174
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Real shit, I mean two battalions honestly could wipe us out.

1175
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>It's real shit. I mean maybe not even two, probably

1176
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 2>one could probably take us over.

1177
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 1>But so to to the point, why don't they I

1178
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't have like facts to back up

1179
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 1>my thesis on this, my theory. I should say, I

1180
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like they've probably done that on other planets before,

1181
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was to the juice wasn't worth the squeeze,

1182
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.679
<v Speaker 1>So it is a lot more beneficial to them to

1183
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>run our country third party or in our country our

1184
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>world third party.

1185
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Put maybe energy harvest in harvesting.

1186
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what their resource of choice is.

1187
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Some claim it is gold, some claim it is energy,

1188
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>some claim it's water. That's why our water levels are

1189
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 1>going down, even though somehow it's rising at the same time.

1190
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it's heat, like, maybe it's electricity.

1191
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what the resource is that they're coming down

1192
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to harvest from us, But it stands to reason, at least, again,

1193
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>this is from a human perspective. We don't actually know

1194
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.599
<v Speaker 1>why or these people, what these creatures are, what they're doing,

1195
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>what they're after, whatever, but it stands to reason as

1196
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>far as all the evidence that we have right now,

1197
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they could take us over, but they haven't yet. Will

1198
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>They don't know, not really trying to find that out

1199
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the hard way, but it seems like they're at least

1200
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>using us for something. Is this an experimental testing ground?

1201
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Is this their version of an ant farm and they're

1202
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>just kind of letting shit see how it plays out.

1203
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I've always felt like we reset though several times, like

1204
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like at some point we were way more

1205
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.360
<v Speaker 2>advanced the earth or humanity. Humanity, okay, and we've reset somehow.

1206
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 1>There's a strong argument for this.

1207
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That we've reset ourselves a few times and that we've

1208
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 2>lost whatever knowledge we had, and maybe they let us

1209
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 2>get to a certain point and then they're like, you

1210
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 2>know what, Okay, you've reached your expiration or you've gotten

1211
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 2>too big for your breeches. Let's knock you back some

1212
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of just are resetting. Maybe they harvest

1213
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people. Maybe they take whatever it is

1214
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 2>they need, reset the clock, help wipe it out, and

1215
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 2>just keep doing that cycle. Maybe that's a thing.

1216
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>There's an argument for this, and there's more argument to

1217
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>say that maybe nuclear power is the reset button, right,

1218
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, there's a few, and I want to say

1219
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a few. There is a handful, fair enough of exposures

1220
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.679
<v Speaker 1>to alien craft beings, whatever you want to call it,

1221
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 1>throughout the course of human history, from the ancient Documentation

1222
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:34.039
<v Speaker 1>to the Middle Ages, even today. We didn't really start

1223
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>seeing them until we started doing nuclear testing. Now, two

1224
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>parts to that conversation. One, we didn't have the best

1225
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>lines of communication until that point, right, Like more people

1226
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>had telephones in their home in nineteen forty eight than

1227
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.199
<v Speaker 1>they did throughout the massive course of the rest of

1228
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 1>human history that we know of. So is it possible

1229
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 1>that these sightings have always been a thing. It's just

1230
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 1>people didn't report them until point and that happened to

1231
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>be around the time where nuclear testing was done. Possibly, Okay,

1232
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Also possibly that we walk a beast up as soon

1233
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 1>as we dropped the first nuclear test, the Manhattan Project,

1234
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and that sends ripples through time and space. In my

1235
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 1>personal opinion, when a nuke goes off, when you split

1236
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>an atom, you're talking talking about fucking with the actual

1237
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 1>laws of nature. I feel like it let go.

1238
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>It let go such a massive pulse it that it

1239
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>sent out a shockwave. Plus on top of that, we

1240
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>sent out that messenger beacon that's you know, hey, welcome

1241
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to Earth.

1242
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:36.079
<v Speaker 1>All around your single twenty year time frame, give or take.

1243
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 1>It stands way more to reason to me that it doesn't.

1244
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:41.599
<v Speaker 1>When a nuke goes off, it's not just a blast

1245
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of radiation, a blast of shockwave and a blast of

1246
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>MP I think we are sending out shockwaves that we

1247
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 1>don't actually have the instrumentation to pick up one, but

1248
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they do, and so all of a sudden.

1249
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>They come down energy level. We've fucked with the system

1250
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>may and that may not necessarily be a bad thing

1251
00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 2>as far as they're concerned, because I don't think the

1252
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 2>alien actually give a fuck about us.

1253
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that they come in to check in from

1254
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 1>time to time, but at the same time they leave.

1255
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 1>They leave us alone for hundreds of years, and all

1256
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Yo, come check these little these little

1257
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>humans out these little seventy percent water sacks. They figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how to nupe themselves. Look them splitting atoms and shit, Yo,

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00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they got this collider. They're they're doing super colliding shit

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00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 1>over here with this they call it cern Look at

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00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>this shit like. I think that they started taking more

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00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.079
<v Speaker 1>notice of us once we hit a certain peak of technology.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that seems the reason, kind of like where

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00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm at with it that they we've I feel like

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00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 2>we've advanced more than one time to a certain degree,

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00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 2>and then we've done something to ripple that effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And read about the ancient nuke that went off the

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<v Speaker 1>bramathstra No, I've never heard of this in India.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're side tangent good cult members. Two second here, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Indian legend and lore. And I only say legend

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<v Speaker 1>and lore because there was nothing to back this claim up.

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<v Speaker 1>Untol like twenty fifteen. Okay, there's this general slash sultan

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01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.199
<v Speaker 1>slash king type figure who there's a war going on

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01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and something's got to give. They have to win this war,

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01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>and it's clear that they are outmatched. So he goes

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01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>into a deep state of meditation, talks to the god

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01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.519
<v Speaker 1>of Shiva and Krishna and all of them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>give him the Bramathstra. The Bramastra, which also, if I'm

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01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, stands for God's sling or the Gods's sling.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the description of what it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like once this weapon is used, we would read that

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<v Speaker 1>as a nuclear bomb going off, radiation faces, melting, the

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01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 1>land is unagregable for another twenty fifty one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>shock waves, the whole nine and allegedly, just in this legend,

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01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.039
<v Speaker 1>this was used at one point, and this is way

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01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 1>before any real written history, which is why it's written

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01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 1>down in one of the oldest Vedic texts that's known

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01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to ma'am cut too. There was a dig site that

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01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 1>was going on. They were trying to cut a railroad

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01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>through the Hindu Kush region, which is what we would

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01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>now call like the Indian Pakistan border, and they found

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01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 1>this ancient settlement which Mahuramazda no no no no no

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01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 1>no no. A hur Amaza is the Zorastrin god. Hold on,

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01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna remember the name. I'm gonna remember the name

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01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this episode later on. It's going

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01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to piss me off. But anyway, basically, they were digging

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01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 1>this railroad and they found a super old building and

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01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 1>the more they dug, the more they realized this was

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01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a Indus Valley region city and we've never found one

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01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 1>before we knew that this civilization existed, we've never found

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01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.039
<v Speaker 1>one of their settlements, never preserved either. The more they dug,

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01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the more they found bodies that. Weirdly enough, the skeletons

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01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 1>were perfectly preserved, which is very strange. Secondly, they all

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01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>had high radiation signatures, which doesn't make any sense. And

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01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>there is there's flash points very similar to POMPEII of

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01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like a person against the wall basically being shot at

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01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.679
<v Speaker 1>against the wall, and like the whole soot outline of them,

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01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.719
<v Speaker 1>but there's no volcanoes in this region. It's very strange.

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01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange. So there is some that believe, and

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01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that I necessarily do or don't believe

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01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.559
<v Speaker 1>this point, there are some that believe that the ancient

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01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:32.559
<v Speaker 1>ancient Vedics had learned the secrets of nuclear bombs. And

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01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:35.360
<v Speaker 1>there are others that believe that this weapon quote unquote

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01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 1>is something that could only be achieved through massive meditation

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01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.599
<v Speaker 1>and enlightenment and aligning the chakras and all these things,

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01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and somehow.

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01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:47.280
<v Speaker 2>They became a weapon of energy himself.

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01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Kind of, and that it's so wrapped up in lore

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01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and mystery that no and nobody to this day has

1321
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>any real beliefs behind it, one way or another. But

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01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 1>it is very interesting. So we may have had multiple resets.

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01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 1>There is at least some kernel of truth to that

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01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that stands to reason with modern archaeology.

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01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've always felt like this for many many years,

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01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.960
<v Speaker 2>before I even really got into reading archaeology and that

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01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. I never really I kind of just

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01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>have always felt like that that humans were more advanced

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01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:26.719
<v Speaker 2>at one time and then they've reset, been reset. Let

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01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 2>me rephrase it. I think that we've been reset by something.

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01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Now what that something is, I'm not one hundred percent.

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01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Certain Maduro, but that's the city, the city of Maduro,

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01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Mahandra Duro, that's it. Okay, yeah, Mahinda Daro. Excuse me,

1334
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Mahindra Daro. It's a very fascinating city of the Indus

1335
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>River Valley timeframe. And you, being the one who's done

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01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the archaeological digcite, I'm.

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01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, now, I really want to know all about this.

1338
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I did an episode on it probably six months ago.

1339
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 1>It is, it's fascinating, it's it's actually never puzzling anything else.

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01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of it, but I'm down to totally

1341
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>worried about it. But that's my theory at least, is

1342
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 2>that we've been reset. I'm not gonna say by aliens,

1343
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 2>but i I'm at least by some deities, by some God,

1344
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:22.000
<v Speaker 2>by some aliens, by whatever the fuck is above us

1345
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that has a lot more knowledge base than we do.

1346
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we get to a point and we

1347
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 2>do something to piss off somebody, to go too far,

1348
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 2>to upset the balance of nature, to do something, and

1349
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 2>we get reset and we get put back in our

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01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 2>place and we kind of I wouldn't say start over,

1351
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 2>but we lose a lot of what we've gained, and

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01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 2>at least that's where I'm at with it. So it's

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01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.280
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, but like the gelatinous key thing, it's a

1354
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.639
<v Speaker 2>it's a weird it's just a weird technology. There's a

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01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of weird technology that just doesn't make sense to me.

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01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 2>But also, I mean, if you've never seen it before

1357
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.280
<v Speaker 2>and we have no eye idea how to actually replicate

1358
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 2>it or make it or anything like that, at this point,

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01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of just open to whatever.

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01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 1>But then keep in mind, this flying cube didn't appear

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01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 1>above New York City. It didn't appear but above Tucson,

1362
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like we had the Phoenix, like we had the Phoenix lights.

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01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.800
<v Speaker 1>At one point in time, it happened to be floating

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01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>over a nuclear test site or excuse me, a nuclear

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01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 1>launch site.

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01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if there's more around other nuclear test sites

1367
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:29.639
<v Speaker 2>or old or old silos or old you know, rundown

1368
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:30.480
<v Speaker 2>places that.

1369
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 1>More often than not, more often than not, there's UFO

1370
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.199
<v Speaker 1>sightings around current active nuclear bases. There's even case feeding.

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01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they're feeding off the nuclear energy, But

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01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>then that would stand the reason would they be over Fukushima?

1373
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Would they be over speaking.

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01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Of Fukushima with Japan just had two massive earthquakes. They

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01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 1>had a seven point five and a five point seven

1376
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.239
<v Speaker 1>within three days of each other. I don't know what

1377
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the current standing of Fukushima is.

1378
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 2>But you can actually go to the website. They have

1379
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a Fukushima website that is consistently tracking radiation every single day.

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01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I followed it for years, but now I'm gonna have

1381
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to go look to be honest with you.

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01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.159
<v Speaker 1>But to that point, though, if that was the case,

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01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:11.920
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they be on a ground nuclear energy sites?

1384
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I would they be eating the nuclear energy or the

1385
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.199
<v Speaker 2>radiation at Chernobyl.

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01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the waste is something that they can't use. I

1387
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But even still, so, there's two cases, and

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01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about it on the show before. There was

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01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.679
<v Speaker 1>one in Russia and one in America, where a floating

1390
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:34.639
<v Speaker 1>orb by all eyewitness accounts, floated over a nuclear missile site,

1391
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.639
<v Speaker 1>armed the missiles, got them in position, opened the hatch

1392
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.119
<v Speaker 1>doors on multiple missiles. Literally there was only the last

1393
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.000
<v Speaker 1>thing was needed was the pushing of the button. No

1394
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.840
<v Speaker 1>human interacted with it whatsoever. It did all these things

1395
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on its own, and then it decided to float away.

1396
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 1>In Russia, the exact same thing happened, except set a

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01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 1>couple of things on fire around the nuclear site and

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01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 1>then dipped out.

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01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Is only teenagers fucking with us like.

1400
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 1>These were glowing, fiery, floating orbs that also defied the

1401
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 1>laws of aerospace dynamics.

1402
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it makes sense why we have Space Force,

1403
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I mean I like it, and

1404
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 2>he's a lot more since the more you look into it.

1405
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But like a child like Trump, hate Trump whatever. I

1406
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:23.000
<v Speaker 1>think we can all, at least of the cult members

1407
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 1>here listening, say what you want about space. Trump saying

1408
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that space is now a war fighting front. I don't

1409
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 1>think we can really argue with that.

1410
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, did people not watch Space Invaders? No, they did,

1411
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Like man, that that movie. That was one of those

1412
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 2>movies that I watched over and over again as a kid.

1413
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 1>They watched Star Wars and they all and et and

1414
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they for some reason feel like all these aliens are

1415
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like good, little little cute creatures.

1416
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:48.599
<v Speaker 2>You freak me the fuck out.

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01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Well good, because we're gonna talk about that later. Because

1418
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that was done on purpose.

1419
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Et et et was Okay, I watched the movie a lot,

1420
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 2>but ET was fucking.

1421
01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Freaky to me, good because it should have been. But

1422
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so many people are like, oh, aliens are here to

1423
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:06.239
<v Speaker 1>like be kind and eat rece's PC's. It's like, no, no, no,

1424
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:06.719
<v Speaker 1>they're not.

1425
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 2>It was a creepy movie.

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01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about it here. With the seventy breeds

1427
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.320
<v Speaker 1>of aliens, there might be the ET group, maybe one

1428
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of them. And they believe they believe Spielberg got his

1429
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 1>inspiration from some anonymous whistleblowers from the government that told

1430
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.039
<v Speaker 1>him what these aliens act like, move like, walk like

1431
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:25.720
<v Speaker 1>all the things I wasn't like.

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01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Eat was like chill though, to be honest, like he

1433
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:30.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like But.

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01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.239
<v Speaker 1>What's the chance that he was like the down syndrome

1435
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:34.640
<v Speaker 1>alien because he was the only one that was left back? No, no, no,

1436
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not the first person to make this joke

1437
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:42.319
<v Speaker 1>look real. The aliens, whatever breed Eat was, they all

1438
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 1>made it to the ship on time. He's the only

1439
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.039
<v Speaker 1>one that got lost in the sauce, fucking around with

1440
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 1>little little Leaf and the little little ress PCs and

1441
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 1>he's just playing with his finger and he can't even

1442
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:53.800
<v Speaker 1>speak right and all these things. What's the chances he

1443
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.399
<v Speaker 1>had an extra chromosome and they left his ass on purpose?

1444
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:01.359
<v Speaker 1>What's the chance? Okay, fine, to a different spectrum. What

1445
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 1>if he was the platoon ship back and they left

1446
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:05.600
<v Speaker 1>his ass on purpose knowing damn good and well they

1447
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:07.479
<v Speaker 1>can they know how to do a head call, they

1448
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.199
<v Speaker 1>know how, they know how many they came with and

1449
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:12.000
<v Speaker 1>how many they leave with. What's the chances that Eats

1450
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:14.319
<v Speaker 1>was the slow one and they knew that he was

1451
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the liability they left his ass?

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01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't think that that's the case, but you

1453
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:23.600
<v Speaker 2>know why not. I mean, wouldn't you think that they

1454
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 2>would just have a superior race, and if they had

1455
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.119
<v Speaker 2>one that might be a little bit different, they would

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01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Spartagus that shit or like Spartan that

1457
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:34.039
<v Speaker 2>should throw them off the mountain. Maybe this was that

1458
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:36.439
<v Speaker 2>version of oh my God, left it with the humans.

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01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because figure they figured the humans are going to

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01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>kill it anyway. The humans are not kind or friendly

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01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 1>to outsiders.

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01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's fair, but I don't think it's the

1463
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:45.680
<v Speaker 2>dumb one.

1464
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 1>But okay, we'll talk about it in.

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01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Dedependance Day was a weird movie that that movie is

1466
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 2>That's where I was like, ooh Inpence Day or the

1467
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 2>day that the Earth stood still.

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01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Back when, back when Will Smith was still a man.

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01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And also I thought it was good that they showed

1470
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the reality of it this air, this pilot doing his thing.

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01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.960
<v Speaker 1>What does he do? He marries a stripper and gets

1472
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:09.119
<v Speaker 1>her knocked up, obviously, and it's like, well, that's not

1473
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a good look for our military. It's like, I don't

1474
01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they got the source as close to accurate.

1475
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.399
<v Speaker 2>As policy have. They met to a lot of the

1476
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:19.479
<v Speaker 2>military members.

1477
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like talking to was it the president

1478
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.479
<v Speaker 1>or some high up person. She's like, oh, I'm a dancer,

1479
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.479
<v Speaker 1>oh like ballet exotic and she's like oh, and you realize,

1480
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.479
<v Speaker 1>like wait, Will Smith married a stripper and had a

1481
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.960
<v Speaker 1>kid with her, and like that's the reality. And it's like, yeah, yeah,

1482
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that checks out. That's the reason.

1483
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:37.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing that you pick up from the

1484
01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:38.439
<v Speaker 2>whole movie.

1485
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Besides that, that's the one bit of reality I took

1486
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:43.239
<v Speaker 1>from the movie. Everything else about the movie is so dumb.

1487
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It it was a weird movie when I was a kid.

1488
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:47.960
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the first movie though that I watched that

1489
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like m creepy aliens.

1490
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.640
<v Speaker 1>There's so many, but of the whole storyline, that was

1491
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the one bit that like completely, that's not even what

1492
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I remembered. What did you remember?

1493
01:10:58.520 --> 01:10:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I remember?

1494
01:10:59.199 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one liner.

1495
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember the Dad's sacrificing himself. Like that's the peak

1496
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.520
<v Speaker 2>moment with the whole movie. I mean, but I love

1497
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars, Star Trek all the things.

1498
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's the thing. And Et makes an appearance

1499
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 1>there too. Did you see that that at the Galactic

1500
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Federation where there's a group of Yodas sitting next to

1501
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a group.

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01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Of Et, Not that I can remember.

1503
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm gonna mesh your mind up real quick.

1504
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.359
<v Speaker 2>The side tangent on this episode. I am so sorry

1505
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 2>to your cold members.

1506
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:39.800
<v Speaker 1>This is the whole point, man, right here. What this

1507
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 1>is them at the big Galactic Federation meeting. And that's

1508
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 1>why in the movie, whenever Et saw Yoda at the

1509
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Halloween thing, he actually recognized him and tried communicating with him.

1510
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a part of the verse, it's a part of

1511
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the lore.

1512
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:52.840
<v Speaker 2>How did I not know that?

1513
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

1514
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm a terrible nerd.

1515
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Great, I don't blame you. You know, there's a lot

1516
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 1>of info to just like take down and know off

1517
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:03.199
<v Speaker 1>top so I can.

1518
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't like go super hard hard into it,

1519
01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:10.600
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know that. I always wonder why he

1520
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 2>recognized him.

1521
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:16.560
<v Speaker 1>That's according to the lore, because apparently the ets all

1522
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.960
<v Speaker 1>know each other. They do, they do. And if you

1523
01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 1>go to the whole scene where there's like a hundred

1524
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:24.239
<v Speaker 1>different little sections of these dudes all sitting together, these

1525
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:26.079
<v Speaker 1>dudes are sitting right next to the yodas.

1526
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Lelo has that too when he goes to space. Yes,

1527
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Lelo is this new kid's move that come out.

1528
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Not Lelelo. You're talking about Lelo and Stitch. You're talking about.

1529
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Lelo is his his name.

1530
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:43.199
<v Speaker 1>It's not Lelo Leo, No, damn it is.

1531
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:45.880
<v Speaker 2>There is this new movie that they like. So he

1532
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:47.520
<v Speaker 2>walks in and he has to convince these people to

1533
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 2>let him join this federation pretty much, and they have

1534
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:55.760
<v Speaker 2>little pockets of each different grouping or you know, ethnicity

1535
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:58.880
<v Speaker 2>of aliens, and there's a whole bunch of them all

1536
01:12:58.960 --> 01:12:59.359
<v Speaker 2>at once.

1537
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Elliot l Oh, Yeah, hello Elio.

1538
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:04.000
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, I could see the letters.

1539
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all joking aside, Disney has been putting out

1540
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 1>some dog shit movies lately. Eloh was good. I liked

1541
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 1>it a lot.

1542
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:11.720
<v Speaker 2>It was actually good. But they have a lot of

1543
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 2>alien movies that they put out, like a ton of

1544
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:15.399
<v Speaker 2>alien movies.

1545
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Somos like they know.

1546
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like they know.

1547
01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, all right, getting back to the square of the

1548
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.159
<v Speaker 1>cube of whatever you want to call it, This object

1549
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.000
<v Speaker 1>remained for approximately forty five seconds before rapidly departing over

1550
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the mountains. Later that evening, additional sightings are reported, including

1551
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.920
<v Speaker 1>instances where the objects exhibited aggressive behaviors by approaching security

1552
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 1>guards at high speeds before darting away. Graves, which is

1553
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the eyewitness we talked about earlier. Here emphasized that such

1554
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>unidentified anomalist phenomena UAPs are present in US airspace, but

1555
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:51.119
<v Speaker 1>are significantly underreported due to the stigma associated with such sightings,

1556
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>which he believes poses a challenge to national security, which

1557
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they do or don't. I understand why

1558
01:13:57.239 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 1>somebody would believe that, though he also wasted that the

1559
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:05.079
<v Speaker 1>government possesses more information about UAPs than has been publicly disclosed,

1560
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>with excessive classification practices keeping crucial information hidden. This testimony

1561
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 1>aligns with broader efforts to encourage transparency and further investigation

1562
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:18.399
<v Speaker 1>into UAPECE, as evidence by the Department of Wars establishment

1563
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office in twenty twenty two.

1564
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I have never heard of that one before, but all

1565
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 1>right to handle UAP reports. The two thousand and three

1566
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Vanderberg incident is not the first of its kind at

1567
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:37.840
<v Speaker 1>this base. In nineteen sixty four, a test missile was

1568
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:42.159
<v Speaker 1>poorly destroyed after launch, with claims that a space object

1569
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.399
<v Speaker 1>approached the missile and emitted beams of light at the warhead.

1570
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Such a circle accounts, combined with recent testimonies, highlight a

1571
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 1>pattern of unexplained aerial phenomenon near sensitive military installations, underscoring

1572
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the need for comprehensive investigation and open discourse on the subject. Now,

1573
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I love how they just like glazed over that whole

1574
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 1>thing in sixty four, Like I was like, no big deal,

1575
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But like.

1576
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Dude, what like they're just like, yeah, they should shut out,

1577
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:08.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, and miss a out of this guy. No

1578
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 2>big deal, All right, let's move on, what right? I

1579
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:14.560
<v Speaker 2>wonder how many how many UFOs are reported globally though, Like,

1580
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 2>is there places for people to report seeing UFO in

1581
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 2>other countries? I actually don't know this there.

1582
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.479
<v Speaker 1>There is, but I'm going to try to say this

1583
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 1>without sounding like a vengeful fucker here. So no, no, no, no,

1584
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Because we've had beef with MOFON, which is the American

1585
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.079
<v Speaker 1>group that you would report a UFO sighting too. We

1586
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.319
<v Speaker 1>reached out to them. They have state representatives, they have

1587
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a national representative, We have all these things, and we

1588
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have gone out of our way to try to reach

1589
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>out to these people to get one of them on

1590
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the show, just to have a conversation about some of

1591
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the things that people report from time to time. Every

1592
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.600
<v Speaker 1>time they have either said that they are too busy

1593
01:15:55.640 --> 01:16:00.199
<v Speaker 1>for us or been just outright rude to us. And granted, yeah,

1594
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:01.479
<v Speaker 1>at the time when we reached out, we were a

1595
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:05.000
<v Speaker 1>smaller pod, okay, But then when we did more digging

1596
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:08.119
<v Speaker 1>into the organization itself, it seems like it's more of

1597
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a Ponzi scheme, Like it's a grifter organization that is

1598
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.079
<v Speaker 1>taking people's dollar bills because you have to be a

1599
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.199
<v Speaker 1>member of MUFON, and they take on accepting people's dollar bills,

1600
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and and they're membership fees and all these things to

1601
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.760
<v Speaker 1>enrich the very top select few of them. They're like

1602
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:28.399
<v Speaker 1>professional UFO researchers quote unquote that never take a call,

1603
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>never actually take a report, and their pieces of shit.

1604
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>So there, so.

1605
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Those are the people that those are the nation, like

1606
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the global people that you could report to.

1607
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.279
<v Speaker 1>That's America And every country has their own version of this,

1608
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they're affiliated, sometimes they're not. It really depends.

1609
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 1>But it's only in the last I would argue decade

1610
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 1>that UFO sightings have been taken with any kind of

1611
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 1>real credibility. That's fair, right, So, like there's been fringe

1612
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.479
<v Speaker 1>groups and online forums where you can post about.

1613
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Your online forums have been around for a long time

1614
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But I was just wondering if

1615
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:07.439
<v Speaker 2>there's like an actual, you know, country, say the UK,

1616
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 2>for example, do they have a website they could go

1617
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to and be like, hey, I saw this.

1618
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>The UK has way more UFO sidings and what people understand, thousands.

1619
01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:18.199
<v Speaker 2>A year, thousands see and I had a feeling they did.

1620
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like other countries would have a ton of

1621
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:24.399
<v Speaker 2>UFO sidings. I just never hear about them. Well, to

1622
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.439
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I barely ever hear about them.

1623
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So we don't because in America we have so many

1624
01:17:29.119 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that like what's going on in India right now, what's going

1625
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>on in China right now? And you think about this too.

1626
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.399
<v Speaker 1>As far as crash sites go and wreckage recovery goes,

1627
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the larger nation by land mass, not by population. The

1628
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>largest by land mass has a higher probability of being

1629
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:47.399
<v Speaker 1>like a good catch net to have a crash happen.

1630
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's the answer reason, Like just looking at the

1631
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 1>acreage alone, the United States has a way higher probability

1632
01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:56.159
<v Speaker 1>of having some sort of a space wreckage take place

1633
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 1>than Peru.

1634
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many craws in Africa.

1635
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Now that's the other side, depending on who you ask, Well,

1636
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Africa's got like it was like sixty fifty four countries.

1637
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I think, I don't know, there's a couple of the disputed,

1638
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, there's no way you're gonna get them

1639
01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to even come together. They have very few GMOs that

1640
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they can even agree on as far as like the

1641
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Horn of Africa, South Saharan, Central Africa. They have a

1642
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:25.359
<v Speaker 1>few groups that they can like resonate with to say,

1643
01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:27.439
<v Speaker 1>like for economic reasons, we're gonna fuck with each other.

1644
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.560
<v Speaker 1>But man, as soon as the economic talk goes away,

1645
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:32.399
<v Speaker 1>the guns come out and yes or.

1646
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Egypt, you know, like just I'm just kind of

1647
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:40.119
<v Speaker 2>thinking about different places around the world.

1648
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Just hasn't had as many as you would think.

1649
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird decided they were fucking done with that place.

1650
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:47.399
<v Speaker 1>There, or because maybe the Aliens had nothing to do

1651
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:48.159
<v Speaker 1>with Egypt from.

1652
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.079
<v Speaker 2>The beginning, you think they had nothing to do with

1653
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Egypt at all.

1654
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say nothing at all. I'm saying that I

1655
01:18:55.039 --> 01:19:01.119
<v Speaker 1>feel like most people are undercutting human ingenuity. The pyramids were.

1656
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Built, they actually had before they got.

1657
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Reset, Okay, and that stands to reason because you know,

1658
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the strongest structure in human existence would be the pyramid.

1659
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And so after global floods and earthquakes and everything else,

1660
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.800
<v Speaker 1>big tall skyscrapers will crumble, that pyramid is going to

1661
01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:22.319
<v Speaker 1>be stadfast, right because it is, in fact, and it's

1662
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:25.159
<v Speaker 1>going to piss people off. A pyramid is, in fact

1663
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the perfection of what we might colloquially call a pile.

1664
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.199
<v Speaker 1>And so no, no, no, just hear me out.

1665
01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Hear me out, you're back on this bullshit.

1666
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on this bullshit. All I am saying is

1667
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that it stands to reason why if we have usual that.

1668
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.199
<v Speaker 2>They just made that ship up like they're just like boo, like.

1669
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Made up a pyramid. Yeah, you give a three year

1670
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.199
<v Speaker 1>old legos and they will accidentally make a pyramid happen.

1671
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You just go one less on each level, and then

1672
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:54.640
<v Speaker 1>one less on each level, and then before you know it,

1673
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.920
<v Speaker 1>they have a pyramid. That's not like genius.

1674
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.119
<v Speaker 2>You think that they just animally throughout all the world

1675
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:05.600
<v Speaker 2>have just decided that they're going to have pyramids.

1676
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Every pyramid looks completely different. And I've seen this image.

1677
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.159
<v Speaker 1>There's like nine different types of pyramids there.

1678
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.520
<v Speaker 2>There is a lot of different types of pyramids. I'll

1679
01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>give you that.

1680
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And these people like how did they all know how

1681
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>to do this? It's like make a pile of rocks

1682
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.479
<v Speaker 1>and then shape it to be smooth on all sides.

1683
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:21.600
<v Speaker 1>How do they figure that out?

1684
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I just don't like most of us though, when you're

1685
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:28.560
<v Speaker 2>thinking about how because nowadays we can't even conceptualize this.

1686
01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 2>But like before, if you've never seen something, you're a

1687
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of times it takes a lot for people to

1688
01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:38.359
<v Speaker 2>even like think up a new idea, right, so for

1689
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 2>them to like think up the levels though, in which

1690
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.039
<v Speaker 2>they built the pyramids, and how they have the tunnels,

1691
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and how they had like collapsing secret passages and where

1692
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:50.399
<v Speaker 2>they put things and how they did it. I really

1693
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:53.119
<v Speaker 2>don't believe that they just like Boop thought of it.

1694
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't think it just came to this

1695
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>dude in a dream by any means. I think it

1696
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>was centuries, if not millennius, of trial and error to

1697
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>figure out what would be the most structurally sound shape,

1698
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and then they ran with it.

1699
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Aliens.

1700
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Think about this calculus was invented by staring up at

1701
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the stars.

1702
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was Aliens in the sense that

1703
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:16.239
<v Speaker 2>they built it. I think that somebody something had a

1704
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:21.000
<v Speaker 2>way of helping hand us. I hear, we had more

1705
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 2>brain power, we had different things that we were introduced

1706
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to at some point. Sure that people were actually talking

1707
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:31.159
<v Speaker 2>to each other more than what we realized at that point.

1708
01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Egypt is a prime example of that, because that was

1709
01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the crossroads of all human civilization at that point. If

1710
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to get to Africa, you wanted to get

1711
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.239
<v Speaker 1>to Europe, you wanted to get to Asia, you had

1712
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to cross through Egypt. So that stands to make perfect

1713
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 1>sense to me. Why they would have the world's best

1714
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:48.359
<v Speaker 1>engineers and they would have the world's best mathematics, and

1715
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.880
<v Speaker 1>they would have the world's best slaves and all these

1716
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:53.199
<v Speaker 1>things that would make these things take place. I'm not

1717
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>saying they didn't have any outside help as far as

1718
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Aliens are concerned. It's very possible stargate, but it's also

1719
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>very possible that they just trial and because they're not

1720
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.960
<v Speaker 1>even the ones that came up with the pyramids. Ethiopians

1721
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>are the ones that came up with the pyramids, right,

1722
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And so Egypt took that shape and design and said, huh,

1723
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>instead of using mud bricks, I wonder if we use

1724
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just rock bricks. And they know where the rocks came

1725
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>from because they see the quarry. They know how they

1726
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:19.119
<v Speaker 1>transported them, because they know that they redirected the Nile

1727
01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:22.359
<v Speaker 1>River to run, and they floated these bricks on giant

1728
01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:26.239
<v Speaker 1>palettes giant barges to get close to the pyramids. They

1729
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>know how they lifted them because they understood how physics works.

1730
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>The same thing with calculus. Look, that wasn't created, it

1731
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was discovered. It's always been there, but it was discovered

1732
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>by two dudes looking up at the stars for long

1733
01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:40.399
<v Speaker 1>enough and doing some math on it. How did they

1734
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>figure that out? Did they did the aliens visit them

1735
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to make calculus? No, No, it's just they were looking

1736
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>at it at the right time and place and they

1737
01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:49.199
<v Speaker 1>were able to put two and two together. Same thing

1738
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>with pyramids, same things with metal urgy, same thing. All

1739
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>of these things. I believe human ingenuity, I thinks. And

1740
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>the emerald tablets, so historically speaking, there was only one

1741
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>emerald tablet that has been used for a lot of

1742
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.880
<v Speaker 1>alchemical and I'm just wondering.

1743
01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>If there's other things that we just don't know about,

1744
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 2>like that all the libraries that got destroyed, what kind

1745
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:16.239
<v Speaker 2>of information was in there, what kind of information got

1746
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:20.439
<v Speaker 2>passed around? I just there's just certain things that I'm

1747
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>just like, maybe there's there's a lot more, I feel

1748
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:25.119
<v Speaker 2>like to the story than what we know.

1749
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, but like, for instance, everybody brings

1750
01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>up the Library of Alexandria, it's like, how much information

1751
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was lost during that fire and all of these things.

1752
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the biggest one, to be honest

1753
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:37.920
<v Speaker 2>with you, it's not. I know it's not. But the

1754
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Tibetan one was even bigger.

1755
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, and I'll even go there right. There have

1756
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:45.079
<v Speaker 1>been some libraries that have been destroyed and some information

1757
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that were super suppressed by whatever authoritative power it was

1758
01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:52.039
<v Speaker 1>at the time. And yes, sorry, it wasn't always the Christians. Actually,

1759
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the Romans are the reason why we don't know what

1760
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Druids were about that had nothing to do with Christianity.

1761
01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Ancient rome went to war against the Druids and genocidally

1762
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:05.319
<v Speaker 1>murdered every druid of the Gaulish and Pagan tribes for

1763
01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>their own reasons, long before Christianity everything.

1764
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>They were ruthless, they were actually tell the reason why?

1765
01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh did they actually listed out on paper?

1766
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but there's a lot of cultural biases of the

1767
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.119
<v Speaker 1>day and age that you can't cut through what the

1768
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:19.239
<v Speaker 1>actual real reason was.

1769
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I always found that to be interesting. I felt like

1770
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they were extremely threatened by them. I feel like they

1771
01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>had something of ace at their sleeve, and that's why

1772
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.199
<v Speaker 2>they went after them so hard.

1773
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.199
<v Speaker 1>So the druid, to say a druid is like to

1774
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>say a educated person. Because of the druid, you had

1775
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>those that were political leaders, you had some that were

1776
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>medicinal leaders, you had some that were spiritual leaders. Basically

1777
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>anybody of the gaul tribes of the Nordic tribes or whatever.

1778
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Once you got to a certain level, you would be

1779
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>asked to become a druid. It was a rank. It

1780
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a tribe, it wasn't a belief system, it wasn't

1781
01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a religious system. It was a ranking among your tribe.

1782
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So like they had like a doctorate pretty much.

1783
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go. Now that could be a doctorate

1784
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:04.039
<v Speaker 1>in whatever the case would be. But it was somebody

1785
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>that you got to a level where they passed down

1786
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:09.039
<v Speaker 1>the only orally, I might add, because the Druids never

1787
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>wrote shit down. They're so smart, they don't write things down,

1788
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and they would pass this down to the next generation

1789
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and then it would progress that way. We only have

1790
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:20.079
<v Speaker 1>a few scant sources of certain Druidic practices, but we

1791
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what it was about. For instance, they

1792
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:25.479
<v Speaker 1>built a scaffold to get up into a tree and

1793
01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:28.199
<v Speaker 1>cut a bit of missletoe out with a golden scythe

1794
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>The Druids did this for what purpose? What were they

1795
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>doing with the mistletoe? Why did it have to be

1796
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>a golden scythe Why didn't they cut the tree down?

1797
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>There's so many things. That was a Roman source. By

1798
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the way, not a Christian a Roman source.

1799
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, mistletoe will come into play when we talk about

1800
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 2>the mule situation.

1801
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>It will, indeed so. But my point is the Druids

1802
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>had their beliefs, and a lot of it might be

1803
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>akin to Nordic paganism in a way, shape or form.

1804
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But even Nordic paganism, Icelandic is different than Denmark.

1805
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they had alchemy to like they knew.

1806
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:03.439
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they were a lot more advanced than

1807
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>what we know, because they were the scholars of it.

1808
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 2>It could be like the Atlas Shrug movie where they

1809
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:13.239
<v Speaker 2>took all the scholars and they put them in one area,

1810
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>all the really smart people.

1811
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why the Romans killed them all. They

1812
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>weren't trying to exterminate the Gauls. They weren't trying to

1813
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 1>exterminate the Normans. They were trying to exterminate the knowledge

1814
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:26.479
<v Speaker 1>their leading class.

1815
01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it'd be it would be the best thing

1816
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to do, though, to take away the knowledge, because if

1817
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you take away knowledge, then what are you gonna do?

1818
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>The people have no choice but to it here because.

1819
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>They have no idea what to do. At that point,

1820
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>there's no one to teach them. There's no knowledge to learn,

1821
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.399
<v Speaker 2>there's no written thing to learn. So yep, okay, okay,

1822
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and that stands stands the reason.

1823
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's just my own personal opinion. There have been

1824
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.039
<v Speaker 1>so many scholars that have gone back and forth as

1825
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:54.039
<v Speaker 1>to the reason for the druid genocide that took place.

1826
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's very strange because up until only a few

1827
01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>centuries ago, people thought the Druids were they're own tribe.

1828
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>But the Gauls in France had their druids, the Britannics

1829
01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>had their druids, the Norwegians had their druids, and they

1830
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>all called them by that name. So it's like it

1831
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just this one group they were after. It was

1832
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like a classification almost.

1833
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Clearly, I'm kidding everyone.

1834
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So now when we're talking about Egypt and all these

1835
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>other places, they have some UFO sidings, no doubt, not

1836
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>going to say they don't, not to the level in

1837
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>scale that America has had. Now again, is that because

1838
01:27:37.159 --> 01:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>throughout the vast majority of human history, people just didn't

1839
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:43.039
<v Speaker 1>write it down. And you had this random person in

1840
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>this random village in bump fuck nowhere Egypt, actual BFI

1841
01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't know how to report that to the pharaoh,

1842
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and so it just went unreported throughout the course of

1843
01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>human history. Very possibly, very possibly, we only know about

1844
01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what we have read and reported about. And yes, there

1845
01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>is certain in Samerian tablets and in hieroglyphics of things

1846
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that look like rockets in Samaria, dudes that look like

1847
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>they're wearing breathing apparatus. There's one in Egypt it looks

1848
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>like an Apache attack helicopter.

1849
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 2>And then there's the ones in the Mayans that they have,

1850
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and there's ones that are quite a few throughout South

1851
01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>South America that depict different images.

1852
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So, again, is that something that was seen in a

1853
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>psychedelic state when they were fucked up on whatever they're.

1854
01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>But they've again, if they've never seen it and they've

1855
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:37.039
<v Speaker 2>never been exposed to it, nine times out of ten

1856
01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 2>people just don't magically think of these things. So without

1857
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>any kind of conception or context or anything like that,

1858
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to just create this and put it

1859
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.079
<v Speaker 2>on an image that's going to last throughout time unless

1860
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:54.479
<v Speaker 2>there was some type of reason. And so what if

1861
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:59.239
<v Speaker 2>we had we humans were more advanced, or there was

1862
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.439
<v Speaker 2>civilization more advanced around the globe that they saw and

1863
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.399
<v Speaker 2>these things got written down, or i e. There was

1864
01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:10.079
<v Speaker 2>some type of other you know, actually terrestrials living here

1865
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:12.439
<v Speaker 2>with us, and we got too big for our breeches,

1866
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 2>they gave us too technology or whatever the case. We

1867
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>upset the balance of something and then they're like, you

1868
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>know what, let's just kind of take this poop back

1869
01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>from you and let's like, you know, cut this portion

1870
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 2>of your brain off because you guys obviously can't handle

1871
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 2>it right now.

1872
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:31.439
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible. And I'm not even fully disagreeing with that.

1873
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I am saying it's just.

1874
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>A theory that I've thought about through the years. It's

1875
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:37.239
<v Speaker 2>not even I don't have, like, you know, a million

1876
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>sites to back it. It's just something I've kind of

1877
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>toyed with when I've listened to a lot of different

1878
01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>things I don't have. I mean, there's just you never know.

1879
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.439
<v Speaker 2>At this point, I feel like there's just so much

1880
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>that we don't know. And then that ties into the

1881
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>mud flood that people talk about and ties into you know,

1882
01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:56.079
<v Speaker 2>different different theories. But I just personally think that there's

1883
01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.199
<v Speaker 2>no way, just like with dragons or with vampires, we're

1884
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>seeing things like this, Like if you haven't seen it

1885
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>or been exposed to it. You're not just gonna pop

1886
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:09.359
<v Speaker 2>something out of your head, especially back then. They're not

1887
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.760
<v Speaker 2>just out here like creating things.

1888
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>No, And that's why I believe there's that Colonel Vampire

1889
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>is a great example. Right aside from the European narrative

1890
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and Count Dracula and all that, take that away for

1891
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>two seconds. Every culture, every tribe throughout the course of

1892
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>human history has had some sort of a monster. Nobody's

1893
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>ever seen them as a positive thing. Nobody's been like, hey,

1894
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the vampires are here, Yay, the dragons are here. Nobody's

1895
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>ever seen them as positive. Right, Well, Southeast Asia thinks

1896
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that better things about dragons. But to hear me out, dragons,

1897
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:41.399
<v Speaker 1>really they have a kernel of truth to them. M

1898
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>So it tells me that there is at least something

1899
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>there that we may not recognize by today's standards, but

1900
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they recognize back then. Right. Some people would say that's

1901
01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>demons making themselves known to everybody around the world. Maybe

1902
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.199
<v Speaker 1>there is some sort of alchemical thing that we're turning

1903
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>people into this shape shifters are another great example of this.

1904
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>You got the skin walkers of the Navajo and Apache

1905
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:07.119
<v Speaker 1>tribes versus where wolves of the European tribes. Are we

1906
01:31:07.159 --> 01:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about the same thing in different terminologies or are

1907
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.359
<v Speaker 1>these very different? Who's to say? Right when it comes

1908
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to aliens ufo UAPs unexplained things in the sky that

1909
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>these earlier human civilizations saw and recognized as oh my god,

1910
01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that's something. Maybe it's the gods, maybe it's maybe it's

1911
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the evil ones, maybe it's whatever else. I think there's

1912
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.479
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a kernel of truth that connects them all,

1913
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:32.039
<v Speaker 1>but we don't have the proper context to really call

1914
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.159
<v Speaker 1>it one way or another. As far as the advanced

1915
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:38.119
<v Speaker 1>civilizations of the Pasco, we and you've done archaeological dig

1916
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>sites before there, and I understand that we have not

1917
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>excavated the entirety of the earth, so we don't know.

1918
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:48.479
<v Speaker 1>But as it stands right now, there is almost no

1919
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>evidence to say that there was. Like when we say advanced,

1920
01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:57.319
<v Speaker 1>they weren't like dealing with steel beyond a certain point.

1921
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>They weren't like making tungsten happen beyond a certain point.

1922
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>They weren't dealing with electrical diodes beyond a certain point.

1923
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people when they say, like, oh,

1924
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, Atlantis they had flying crafts and all of

1925
01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>these things. Whatever. There is not a single archaeological dig

1926
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>site anywhere to suggest that anybody was stepping out of

1927
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:18.159
<v Speaker 1>their bounds as far as technology is concerned, per what

1928
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.399
<v Speaker 1>we have already ascertained.

1929
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I will say a caveat to that is whoever funds

1930
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>these things. Sure, people are heavily indyaight, Like hell, I

1931
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:34.079
<v Speaker 2>have an NDA on me, and it wasn't anything crazy, right,

1932
01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 2>So like we and still this it will stand to

1933
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>read like until they decide to release me, I still

1934
01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.279
<v Speaker 2>have an NDA on me. And so you're talking about

1935
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you have NDAs, you have groups of archie like groups

1936
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:52.359
<v Speaker 2>of scientists that I work with different companies and they

1937
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:55.479
<v Speaker 2>do different things, and so they have like specialized groups

1938
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>that they trust and use. Sure, so when the bigger

1939
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:03.039
<v Speaker 2>site are being excavated, they use these certain groups before

1940
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>they allow the other ones. And so like for me,

1941
01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>for example, I am super low on the totem pole

1942
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to a dig site, Like I'm a

1943
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>baby compared to so many others that have like well

1944
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>more they have a way more knowledge, way more experience

1945
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.239
<v Speaker 2>were everything than I do. And so like I'm a baby,

1946
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I just come in and I do. I do the

1947
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>shit work right compared to people. But even that, everything

1948
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:31.239
<v Speaker 2>is categorized. But things that are found that potentially have

1949
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:35.199
<v Speaker 2>need to be put someplace else go to a specialized location.

1950
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>They will get taken and they go away. Some of

1951
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it not everyone even sees or even knows about bigger

1952
01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:43.319
<v Speaker 2>dig sites. People know about, but if you're talking about

1953
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bitty dig site that is very specialized and

1954
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that they're searching for something, I have a hard time

1955
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:52.279
<v Speaker 2>believing that we're going to hear about it, especially when

1956
01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the Smithsonian has very very very clearly disclosed how much

1957
01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>they have in volts all around the world. Yeah, so

1958
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:04.399
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about they could have found whatever it is,

1959
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and I killed the people, Uh, you know, made sure that,

1960
01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>like you're never gonna speak a fucking word of this period,

1961
01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>erase their mind. Look at Ariana Grande coming out just

1962
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>recently and being like, hey, do you remember about this

1963
01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>like thing that I got my mind to race. It's stupid,

1964
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:21.479
<v Speaker 2>it's really stupid.

1965
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But because it's her, I'm not saying that there's not

1966
01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>mind raising technology, but like, come on, it is.

1967
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>It is stupid. But saying that publicly, like hey, we

1968
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>did you know we can't erase your mind. We know

1969
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>that they've worked on all sorts of memories and everything

1970
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>like that. We know that they have the AI robot

1971
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that's distracting memories and that's like making actual movies from

1972
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>it and stuff like that. So what is it to

1973
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>say that there is a specialized team that has gone

1974
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>in that has found these things. Then they just quietly

1975
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:51.479
<v Speaker 2>took them and made sure that nobody hears about them.

1976
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Because at all times there's digs going on globally right

1977
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>now that no one even knows about. Most people don't

1978
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>know about them them or that they're happening or what

1979
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>they're looking for. And a lot of the places have

1980
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>tins ub have all these things. They're going to take

1981
01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>that stuff and they're going to take it wherever they

1982
01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:12.039
<v Speaker 2>need to go, I e. Most likely the Smithsonian and

1983
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:13.439
<v Speaker 2>wherever else it is.

1984
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not denying that that's a reality, which is

1985
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>why I say, per what we understand, and by we,

1986
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean academia, I.

1987
01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Mean okay, the lady people. Okay, so us peasants.

1988
01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, it's very possible that they have all of this

1989
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>information to say that, yo, the Atlanteans. Here's where they lived,

1990
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's how they flew around. They had an air dimensional

1991
01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>shit figured out. It's crazy. There's as of the modern zeitgeist,

1992
01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:40.720
<v Speaker 1>there's no current things that would stand to reason on that.

1993
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>There is levels to archaeology as well, so there's different

1994
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>levels when you go in, there's different there's three different

1995
01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>phases as well to a dig. And when they hire

1996
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:54.479
<v Speaker 2>people in it's they have like different levels of people

1997
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>and so the ones that are at the very top

1998
01:35:56.680 --> 01:36:00.199
<v Speaker 2>they find out and they deal with very specialized things

1999
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>like you're you're not supposed to touch a lot of

2000
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that they've Like if you're unearthing something, they

2001
01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:07.399
<v Speaker 2>will come in and help unearth it, and they will

2002
01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>be the ones to take it, and they take it

2003
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 2>and go someplace else. Right, So, I personally, just from

2004
01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:17.479
<v Speaker 2>the little knowledge I have, because I'm nowhere near as

2005
01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.800
<v Speaker 2>knowledgeable as so many others, I would think that they

2006
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>have found things and specifically looked for sites and dug

2007
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>them up and have that information to where we don't

2008
01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>know about it on purpose. It's very possible, because why

2009
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>would you want to, like just the giant conversation, Oh hey,

2010
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.359
<v Speaker 2>we have giant heads and we've been destroying them. So

2011
01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they've had them, they knew that, they went and found them,

2012
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:41.720
<v Speaker 2>they dug them up, they took them and put them

2013
01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:44.279
<v Speaker 2>in the vaults with the Smithsonian, and then they've been

2014
01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:47.159
<v Speaker 2>just actively destroying them. How many people have had eyes

2015
01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>on them, right? How many people have worked with them

2016
01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:51.720
<v Speaker 2>and have not said a word?

2017
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's very possible. True. Actually, so when we cut too,

2018
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.479
<v Speaker 1>did they have ancient computers or some sort of an

2019
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>ancient flying craft or I don't know. Did this come

2020
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:07.720
<v Speaker 1>from the aliens? Did it come from human ingenuity? And

2021
01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>we fucked ourselves up so much that we self reset.

2022
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:12.079
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be.

2023
01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Wild, which would be absolutely wild. What if we got

2024
01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:16.159
<v Speaker 2>to the point where we were using so much of it,

2025
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like all the movies that we've seen in all this

2026
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>stuff about us having and telepathy and all these different

2027
01:37:22.279 --> 01:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>powers and all this stuff. What if we got to

2028
01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the point where we realized we fucked ourselves and on

2029
01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the path that we're on. What if we'll say ten percent,

2030
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll say the ten, top ten or whatever, the one

2031
01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>percenters decided to get together and they're like, you know what,

2032
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:39.399
<v Speaker 2>we have enough power to reset us. Why don't we

2033
01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>do it. Yeah, what if they're the ones actually running

2034
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the country behind.

2035
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>All of this. There's always fares to back that, to

2036
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>say that perhaps and maybe it's nuclear, maybe it's something else,

2037
01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>who knows, But essentially they realize, like, damn, the Earth

2038
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.199
<v Speaker 1>is way too populated and we got to do something

2039
01:37:56.239 --> 01:38:00.039
<v Speaker 1>about this. Let's force a global flood to happen. I

2040
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>will respind a narrative or twelve and we'll just like

2041
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>make this happen. Or maybe it was the aliens, Maybe

2042
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:11.159
<v Speaker 1>it was literally humans by not even some malevolent force.

2043
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was us fucking around too hard and we

2044
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:17.039
<v Speaker 1>caused our own demise time and time and time again.

2045
01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Splitting the dimensions. What if we accidentally time traveled and

2046
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>split dimensions and have alternate universes stuck together that we

2047
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:27.479
<v Speaker 2>did we created on accident.

2048
01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>All of these and so many more theories are possible.

2049
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Wild, it's wild to think about. Honestly, I'm sorry that

2050
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:36.399
<v Speaker 2>we went on this massive tangent we m but it's

2051
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:39.359
<v Speaker 2>one of those things of I'm new to some of

2052
01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:42.439
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and so I have knowledge in so many

2053
01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>different areas, but it's not something I've spent my knowledge base.

2054
01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Is I focus on things that I'm really interested in,

2055
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and it happens to be some things I e. A

2056
01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:53.720
<v Speaker 2>ton of UFO and information I don't know what a

2057
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:56.119
<v Speaker 2>bunch about. So if I asked a lot of dumb questions,

2058
01:38:56.239 --> 01:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

2059
01:38:57.039 --> 01:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>No, If anything, you're asking questions on behalf of the cult.

2060
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Because not all of our cult listeners have been listening

2061
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>for five years and know every single thing that's ever

2062
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>been discussed. Some of the listeners are relatively new to

2063
01:39:08.600 --> 01:39:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things. So I appreciate the nuanced

2064
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>questions that you're asking and also your specific knowledge base

2065
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that you're bringing to the table. So I think it's great.

2066
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I like to ask questions, indeed, which you should. That

2067
01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>is the whole point of the show, you know what

2068
01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean. But anyway, all right, cutting back to the

2069
01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:28.720
<v Speaker 1>UFO situation, let's read into this is it from the

2070
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Independent dot com Big red UFO hovering over Vanderberg In

2071
01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three, Congressional witness testifies Former Navy pilot

2072
01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>says unidentified anomalist phenomenon was seen above Air Force Base

2073
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>in Santa Barbara County. Let's dive in. This is the

2074
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:47.159
<v Speaker 1>picture of mister Graves right here Old Baldy. We're actually

2075
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna watch a video of him speaking on this here

2076
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in a moment. Good cult members. Reports of a huge

2077
01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>hovering red square above Vanderberg Air Force Base in northern

2078
01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara County were shared at a Whole House of

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives panel hearing on Unidentified Flying Objects last Wednesday, July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth. I should also mention, and this is important,

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<v Speaker 1>this article was published in twenty twenty three, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is not like just a few months ago. This is

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. Because the next article we read is

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty five, No, twenty twenty three. Okay, so November.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first article that we're reading right now is

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<v Speaker 1>from August of twenty twenty three. The next one is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about the exact same incident in November

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna know why I didn't hear about this,

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They were talking about the alien disclosure for a good mines.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember whenever. Remember, everybody was like COVID was fake.

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<v Speaker 1>We need we need to see the Epstein files, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to see the list, and everybody's like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the United States government speaking, aliens are real.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember they were really pissed because they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>aliens are real, and everyone's like, cool, dog, I ad

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<v Speaker 2>work Monday, and awesome, great, what are you? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna tell us? Because everything's heavily redacted anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>So so this was a part of that conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three when they were like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>here's all these testimonies, the aliens are real, and we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>cool Epstein files, dog, we want to see flight logs,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to see this. But wait a minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're acknowledging aliens and it's like we know, dude, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know. But anyway, we've all known. So but I

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<v Speaker 1>did want to make at least a mention of this.

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<v Speaker 1>In August to twenty twenty three, this first article was written,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear how that shifted from August to November

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<v Speaker 1>of this same year, talking about the same incident. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>so what they were willing to disclose, and how there

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<v Speaker 1>was like a slow trickle in all these things. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about that now here we go. For the

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<v Speaker 1>for the last five years, the United States has been

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<v Speaker 1>slowly leaking bits of information about UFOs, or unidentified anomalous

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon as they call them. The Indie reported in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen that there has been an overall uptick of interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with aerial phenomena since twenty fourteen. According to a spokesperson

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<v Speaker 1>for Naval Operations, a football field sized flying object at

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderberg was spotted in two thousand and three. According to

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<v Speaker 1>a testimony during the hearing hailed by the House Oversight

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<v Speaker 1>Committee's National Security Subcommittee, a large group and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a direct quote here, A large group of Boeing contractors

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<v Speaker 1>were operating near one of the launch facilities at Vanderberg

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base when they observed a very large, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard sighted red square approached the base from the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean and hover at low altitude over one of the

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<v Speaker 1>launch facilities, said Ryan Graves, a former US Navy fighter

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<v Speaker 1>jet pilot and founder of a nonprofit focused on UAP sidings.

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing his quote, this object remained for about forty five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or so before darting off over the mountains. Graves,

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<v Speaker 1>the executive director for Americans for Safe Aerospace that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the nonprofit he's founded, said the sighting occurred around

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<v Speaker 1>eight forty five a m followed by a second sighting

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<v Speaker 1>only hours later. So keep this in mind too, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like this was in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 1>sky and oh, you know, how could they tell the distance?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's in the middle of the morning, eight forty

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<v Speaker 1>five in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how he saw this and he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>making a nonprofit just to prove his point of like,

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<v Speaker 2>this shit's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and then there was another sighting hours later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wild, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Witnesses provided him with information about the mysterious incidents as

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<v Speaker 1>they had hailed on to quote official documentation and records

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<v Speaker 1>end quote from the event over the years. There's another

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<v Speaker 1>quote from Graves later in the evening post, sunsets now

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<v Speaker 1>it is in the dark. There are reports of other

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<v Speaker 1>sightings on base, including some aggressive behaviors. These objects were

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<v Speaker 1>approaching some of the security guards at rapid speeds before

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<v Speaker 1>darting off. This Grave saying that as well. The Vanderberg

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base renamed the Vanderberg Space Force Base in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. We talked about that is no stranger

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<v Speaker 1>to anomalist phenomenon. In nineteen sixty four, a test missile

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01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was destroyed shortly after launch at the base. The event

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly confirmed or filmed by Lieutenant Robert Jacobs again keep

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<v Speaker 1>a pin in that name, who in nineteen eighty two

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01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>came forward saying a space odd approached the missile and

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<v Speaker 1>shot a plasma type beam at the dummy warhead from

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<v Speaker 1>four different angles. His superiors had told him to say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing of the sighting. Graves one of three former military

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<v Speaker 1>members to testify at the July twenty sixth hearing. Base

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<v Speaker 1>his discussion around three critical issues, including claims that the

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<v Speaker 1>UAPs are in our airspace but are grossly underreported. Stigma

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<v Speaker 1>around UAPs is powerful and challenges national security, and the

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01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>government knows more about UAPs than shared publicly, and excessive

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<v Speaker 1>classification practices keep crucial information hidden. I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>agree with all those statements for the record. The alleged

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<v Speaker 1>sighting of a giant flying red square raises eyebrows. The

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<v Speaker 1>credibility is questionable. How did others miss it? Nevertheless, reports

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01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of odd sightings are becoming more public and are being

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<v Speaker 1>treated more seriously by government officials on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the political spectrum as well they should. Last year, the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Defense created the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,

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<v Speaker 1>the aa ro O for handling UAP reports. The US

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence community said earlier this year that UFO reporting by

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<v Speaker 1>US military personnel is increasing, but government officials have emphasized

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<v Speaker 1>that only a small percentage of those reports could be

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<v Speaker 1>described as anomalous. Quote unquote, I mean fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that they created a resolution office

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<v Speaker 2>for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are the things that happened quietly. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna like take the Men in Black Office basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much what it is, which if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go that route, we could do a whole episode on

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<v Speaker 1>the actual Men in Black Office. It was the NAA

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<v Speaker 1>RO I'm trying to remember the acronym, but essentially it

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<v Speaker 1>was created after Roswell.

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<v Speaker 2>But they had a real office.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like an actual government agency, getting millions and millions

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<v Speaker 1>of taxpayer dollars every year to go out and take samples,

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<v Speaker 1>collect statements, talk to the civilians who saw some things

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<v Speaker 1>that they said, No, the fuck you didn't right, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you? I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see nothing, so nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember the actual acronym. We could do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole episode on that. Actually, it's very fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. During the Cold War, the government was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>throw money at anything that sounded a little too crazy. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, I have a YouTube video

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up of Ryan Graves on c SPAN speaking to

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01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Congress on behalf of all the crazy things that he saw,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it'll come a lot better from

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth rather than us reading it on an article. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I am going to share the screen

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<v Speaker 1>at this time and we're just going to hear together,

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<v Speaker 1>good cult members, we'll see what the truth of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Chairman Grothlin, ranking Member Garcia, distinguished members of

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<v Speaker 7>the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, Representatives Burchett and Luna.

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<v Speaker 7>My name is Ryan Fobbs Graves, and I'm a form

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<v Speaker 7>FA teen pilot with a decade of service in the

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<v Speaker 7>US Navy, including two deployments in Operation and During Freedom

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<v Speaker 7>and Operation Inherent Resolve. I have experience advanced UAP firsthand,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm here to voice to concern to more than

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<v Speaker 7>thirty commercial aircrew and military veterans who have confided their

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<v Speaker 7>similar encounters with me. Today, I would like to highlight

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<v Speaker 7>three critical issues that demand our action as we convene here.

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<v Speaker 7>UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly underreported.

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<v Speaker 7>These sightings are not rare or isolated. They are routine.

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<v Speaker 7>Military aircrew and commercial pilots, trained observers whose lives depend

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01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:27.479
<v Speaker 7>on accurate identification are frequently witnessing these phenomena. The stigma

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01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:31.279
<v Speaker 7>attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security.

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<v Speaker 7>It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions, discourages witnesses.

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<v Speaker 7>It is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the

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<v Speaker 7>credibility of eyewitness testimony. Parts of our government are aware

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<v Speaker 7>of more about UAP than they let on, but excessive

2230
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<v Speaker 7>classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 7>all UAP videos are classified as secret or above. This

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<v Speaker 7>level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding, but fuel

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01:47:56.520 --> 01:48:01.000
<v Speaker 7>speculation and mistrust. In five fourteen, I was an F

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<v Speaker 7>eighteen Fox Trot pilot in the Navy Fighter Attacks Squadron eleven,

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<v Speaker 7>the Red Rippers, and I was stationed at nas Oceania

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<v Speaker 7>in Virginia Beach. After upgrades were made to our jets

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<v Speaker 7>radar systems, we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace.

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<v Speaker 7>At first, we assumed they were radar errors, but soon

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<v Speaker 7>we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple on

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<v Speaker 7>board sensors, including infrared systems, eventually through visual ID. During

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<v Speaker 7>a training mission in Warning Area Whiskey seventy two, ten

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<v Speaker 7>miles off the coast of Virginia Beach, two f eighteen

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<v Speaker 7>super hornets were split by a UAP. The object, described

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<v Speaker 7>as a dark gray or a black cube inside of

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<v Speaker 7>a clear sphere, came within fifty feet of the lead

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<v Speaker 7>aircraft and was estimated to be five to fifteen feet

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<v Speaker 7>in diameter. The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and

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01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:50.319
<v Speaker 7>returned base. Our squadron submitted a safety port, but there

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<v Speaker 7>was no official acknowledgment of the incident and no further

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<v Speaker 7>mechanism to report the sightings. Soon, these encounters became so

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<v Speaker 7>frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as

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<v Speaker 7>part of the regular preflight briefs. Recognizing the need for

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01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:09.079
<v Speaker 7>action and answers, I founded Americans for Safe Aerospace. The

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01:49:09.159 --> 01:49:12.039
<v Speaker 7>organization has since become a haven for UAP witnesses who

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<v Speaker 7>are previously unspoken due to the absence of a safe

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<v Speaker 7>intake process. More than thirty witnesses have come forward and

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<v Speaker 7>almost five thousand Americans have joined us in the fight

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<v Speaker 7>for transparency as Safe Aerospace dot org. The majority of

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01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:28.119
<v Speaker 7>witnesses are commercial pilots at majority major airlines. Often they

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<v Speaker 7>are veterans with decades of flying experience. Pilots are reporting

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<v Speaker 7>uapat altitudes that appear above them at forty thousand feet

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<v Speaker 7>potentially in low earth orbit or in the gray zone

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<v Speaker 7>below the Carmon line, making inexplainable maneuvers like right hand

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01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:46.199
<v Speaker 7>turns and retrograde orbits or jayhooks. Sometimes these reports are reoccurring,

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<v Speaker 7>with numerous recent sightings north of Way and in the

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<v Speaker 7>North Atlantic. Other veterans are also coming forward to us

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01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:57.359
<v Speaker 7>regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and oceans. The most

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<v Speaker 7>compelling involved observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface and more.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll share their experiences once it is safe to do so.

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<v Speaker 7>In closing, I recognize the skepticism surrounding this topic. If

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<v Speaker 7>everyone could see the censor and video data eyewitnessed, our

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<v Speaker 7>national conversation would change. I urge us to put a

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<v Speaker 7>size stigma and address the security and safety issue this

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<v Speaker 7>topic represents. If UPR foreign drones is an urgent national

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01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:27.319
<v Speaker 7>security problem, if it is something else, is an issue

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<v Speaker 7>for science. In either case, unidentified objects are concerned for

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01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:33.880
<v Speaker 7>flight safety. The American people deserve to know what is

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<v Speaker 7>happening in our skies. It is long overdue, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, all right. So from his own emission, as we

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<v Speaker 1>just heard, and I wish that we could play the

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<v Speaker 1>video from this from the Independent, but every time we

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<v Speaker 1>try playing it, AD pops up and then the video

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01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>goes crazy. But essentially he brings up what took place

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01:50:55.560 --> 01:51:00.039
<v Speaker 1>at the Space for Space right, and he's saying, I

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01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>mean that, Yeah, this absolutely took place. I was there,

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01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. As you just heard him say, he

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<v Speaker 1>was stationed in Virginia at the first time that he

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01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>ever himself witnessed some sort of a UAP kind of

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01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>conversation the giant flying red square over Vanderberg. He was

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01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:18.479
<v Speaker 1>on base at that time as well, because what he

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01:51:18.479 --> 01:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was almost twenty twelve in Virginia twenty twenty three or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, two thousand and three, he was at a

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01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:28.399
<v Speaker 1>different location, okay. And so again this was around the

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01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>time when people were starting to finally feel comfortable enough

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01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to come out and talk about it. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>in a David Grush type who never saw anything himself,

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01:51:37.800 --> 01:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>but the DoD gave him the green light to talk

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01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>about these things. Third person, this was witness, yeah, which

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01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't stand it. Honestly. I don't dislike David Grush,

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01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>just so everybody's clear, I know I shit on him

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01:51:51.279 --> 01:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a good bit. I don't dislike him as a person.

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01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't take anything he says as factual because again

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01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:02.720
<v Speaker 1>he got his gript made for him by the DoD

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01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and then came forward after they told him he could.

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01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:11.279
<v Speaker 1>That's all plant exactly. That's all I've been saying. He

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01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>is a plant, which is fine, but also you know,

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01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:16.399
<v Speaker 1>you need to take that with a grain of salt.

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01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying anyway. So continuing on with this

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01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>article here, a former US Air Force security officer had

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<v Speaker 1>spoken publicly for the first time about UFO sidings in

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01:52:26.479 --> 01:52:29.399
<v Speaker 1>California twenty years ago. Again, this article was written in

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01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:32.479
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. In October two thousand and three, military

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01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:37.000
<v Speaker 1>contractors worked for Bowing Air Force police witnessed an unidentified

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01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:41.079
<v Speaker 1>flying object or UFO, described as a gigantic floating red square,

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01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>flying over an air base in California. The object was

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01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred yards long and was allegedly seen hovering

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01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>over a launch site in Vanderberg Air Force Base, which

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01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:55.279
<v Speaker 1>is leased today by Elon Musk's SpaceX. No shit, yeah,

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01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:57.880
<v Speaker 1>remember they said that it's like the premier spot to

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01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>do launches and testing for both military and civilian.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like what ninety nine thousand, six hundred and

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01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>four sauce square acres or something like that. So they

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01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:13.399
<v Speaker 2>have seen amount of acreage sixteen launchpads or launch sites.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Space Force base is currently being leased by Elon, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure one of those things that's not suspicious.

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01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:24.039
<v Speaker 1>The incident was not spoken about publicly for two decades,

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01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but recently came to light during a sworn testimony given

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01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>by before Congress by Lieutenant Ryan Graves, who we just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about now. In ex United States Air Force Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Patrolman Jeff Nucatelli, I hope I pronounced that right, If not, sorry, dude, Italians,

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01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>one of those languages has come forward to shed further

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01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:45.840
<v Speaker 1>light on the eerie events. This is not a joke,

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01:53:46.039 --> 01:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>he told Merged podcasts on Tuesday. There are contractors with

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01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>top secret clearances, he said, emphasizing credibility of witnesses to

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01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:57.039
<v Speaker 1>the alleged sighting. These guys are trained observers. They're posting

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01:53:57.079 --> 01:54:00.039
<v Speaker 1>out there. You know twenty four to seven that I

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01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>know what aircraft look like. They know what fishing boats

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01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:07.079
<v Speaker 1>look like. Mister Nucatelli also revealed a second reported encounter

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01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with a red square in which two of his fellow

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01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>US Air Force Police Patrol officers got buzzed by the UFO.

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01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>He recalled the events on the day in two thousand

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01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and three, saying that he was getting ready to jump

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01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:21.800
<v Speaker 1>in the car when all hell broke loose and they

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01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>start screaming over the radio. It's coming right at us,

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01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It's coming right for us. Now it's here. It was

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01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to hear because they were screaming and they were scared.

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01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.079
<v Speaker 1>The former patrol officer said, this is him, and we're

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01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:36.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear a direct testimony from him here next. This

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01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>is all playing out on the radio and the dispatchers

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01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:42.199
<v Speaker 1>are communicating with them, trying to get more information. He said,

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01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:45.079
<v Speaker 1>it's just chaos. You know, the dispatchers are basically advising

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01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody to go on alert trying to get information, which

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01:54:48.199 --> 01:54:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I could agree with that if you're the dispatcher and

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01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>these are all MPs us Air Force MPs and out

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01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:58.159
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere you got multiple police or MPs screaming into

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01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the radio that they're seeing some shit. This dispatch is

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01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like attention to all units, everybody on

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01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:06.920
<v Speaker 1>high alert? What are you looking at here?

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01:55:07.079 --> 01:55:07.159
<v Speaker 6>Like?

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01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I get it. This is direct quote from him, went

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01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:13.119
<v Speaker 1>what the help, dude? They have so many.

2363
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Ads, so many ads in this thing.

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01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:18.439
<v Speaker 1>When I showed up, it's just mayhem. Everybody's excited, they're scared,

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01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:21.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone's freaked out. He added, he said things calm down

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01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>at the scene when the object flew off. Well, obviously so.

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01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>He told the Merged podcast, which hosted which is hosted

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01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:31.880
<v Speaker 1>by Lieutenant Ryan Graves, that he interviewed about six people

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01:55:31.880 --> 01:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>who witnessed the event following the alleged sighting. Basically, what

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01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:37.760
<v Speaker 1>they described was that the object came in was moving

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01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:41.439
<v Speaker 1>strangely erratically. It got bigger and brighter as it came in.

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01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Then it came at high rate of speed and flew

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01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.279
<v Speaker 1>right over the entry control point and stopped and they

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01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>all stared at it, and it just shot off. According

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01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to mister Knucatelly, this sighting was preceded by a separate

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01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:57.159
<v Speaker 1>sighting earlier in the day, after which three Boeing contractors

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01:55:57.199 --> 01:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>signed Swarren's statements that they saw the UFO. The UFO

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01:56:01.079 --> 01:56:04.119
<v Speaker 1>is described by mister Duck Cattelly as basically just a

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01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:07.800
<v Speaker 1>big square object the size of a football field, silently

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01:56:07.880 --> 01:56:11.439
<v Speaker 1>floating over the launchpad, red in color and glowing. As

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01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>far as I know, it wasn't a cube. It was

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01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like a flattened square. He added. He believes that at

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01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>least eighty people are aware of the alleged sighting, and

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01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:22.479
<v Speaker 1>he has delivered what he knows to the Pentagon's All

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01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or ARROW that we talked about earlier.

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01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:30.079
<v Speaker 1>His next steps, he told Lieutenant Graves, are to assist

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01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>ARROW in locating more witnesses to the two fourteenth of

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01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>October two thousand and three sightings. There was two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm trying to do now is track down all

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<v Speaker 1>the people, the ex US Air Force Police officer said,

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01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:46.079
<v Speaker 1>because my recollection of who was there and all the

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01:56:46.119 --> 01:56:50.399
<v Speaker 1>participator excuse me. All the particulars and the details are flawed, right,

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01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't there when these things happened. It's all secondhand.

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01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Mister Ducklettelly added, the Heat thinks investigators have taken great

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01:56:57.359 --> 01:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>interest in the alleged sightings. Investigators a contact and me

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01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>spent a tremendous amount of time talking to me, over

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01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>an hour. For sure, I felt that they were genuinely,

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01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:12.159
<v Speaker 1>genuinely interested in the case and genuinely interested in looking

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Should hope three genuinelyies right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of UFO sightings have been reported in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States in recent months, a senior Pentagon official told CNN

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01:57:22.079 --> 01:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in October. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon office

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01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>established to investigate potential UFO sightings, said that his office

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01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>received approximately eight hundred reports of unidentified objects as of

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01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:38.039
<v Speaker 1>this past April, up from six to fifty reports in

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01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.720
<v Speaker 1>August of twenty twenty two, so they were definitely on

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01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the increase. Mister Kirkpatrick added that there is potential for hundreds,

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01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:50.039
<v Speaker 1>if not thousands, of more reports in the future. Public

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01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>interest in UFO is growing rapidly. A July hearing in

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01:57:52.960 --> 01:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Congress on the matter drew significant attention from the public

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01:57:55.600 --> 01:58:00.359
<v Speaker 1>after veteran and former members of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency,

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01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:04.039
<v Speaker 1>David Grush, which literally just talked about him, testified during

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01:58:04.039 --> 01:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a Congression with hearing that the US government is in

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01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>possession of intact craft of non human origin from UAP

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01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:14.319
<v Speaker 1>crash sites. Meanwhile, public interest in UFOs has stirred up

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01:58:14.359 --> 01:58:19.119
<v Speaker 1>again in September when self described UFO expert Jamie Mousane,

2418
01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:22.359
<v Speaker 1>which people have opinions on that we're not getting into that,

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01:58:22.840 --> 01:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>testified in front of the Mexican Congress that he had

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01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>discovered two non human corpses that are not part of

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01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:33.159
<v Speaker 1>our terrestrial evolution. So the if you're wondering, this is

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01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:37.199
<v Speaker 1>one of them. This is an alleged alien mummy that's

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01:58:37.239 --> 01:58:40.199
<v Speaker 1>two foot tall, and he's saying that he's in possession

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01:58:40.199 --> 01:58:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of these. But this guy has been caught in multiple

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01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:46.359
<v Speaker 1>hoaxes in the past. So that's and that's you know,

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01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:49.319
<v Speaker 1>take that with whatever grant assault you need anyway. All right,

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01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:52.479
<v Speaker 1>So moving on to the next course of action here.

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01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Now we're gonna hear from the US Air Force MP

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01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>who came to Congress to testify on behalf of his

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01:58:59.760 --> 01:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>site of what he saw the day in two thousand

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01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and three.

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<v Speaker 8>Good morning, Thank you Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Crockett, and

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01:59:09.119 --> 01:59:13.119
<v Speaker 8>members of the task Force for giving us the opportunity

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01:59:13.159 --> 01:59:16.880
<v Speaker 8>to testify today. My name is Jeffrey Neussatelli. I'm a

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01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:20.279
<v Speaker 8>former military police officer with sixteen years of active duty

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01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:23.720
<v Speaker 8>service in the US Air Force. I'm here today because

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01:59:23.720 --> 01:59:27.119
<v Speaker 8>the American people have both the right and the responsibility

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01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:31.920
<v Speaker 8>to know the truth about unidentified aerial phenomenon. That truth

2439
01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:38.239
<v Speaker 8>remains hidden, classified, and silenced by fear, retaliation, stigma, and confusion.

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01:59:39.640 --> 01:59:43.840
<v Speaker 8>Today we are here to help break that silence. Between

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01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:46.479
<v Speaker 8>two thousand and three and two thousand and five, five

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01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:51.119
<v Speaker 8>UAP incidents occurred at Vanderberg Air Force Base, home to

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01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:55.319
<v Speaker 8>the National Missile Defense Project, a top national security priority

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01:59:56.119 --> 01:59:58.600
<v Speaker 8>at the time. We were conducting launches deemed by the

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01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:03.000
<v Speaker 8>National Reconnaissance off as the most important in twenty five years.

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02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:08.279
<v Speaker 8>These were historic launches. These facilities were vital, and they

2447
02:00:08.279 --> 02:00:14.520
<v Speaker 8>were repeatedly visited by UAP. Each incident was witnessed by

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02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:20.199
<v Speaker 8>multiple personnel, documented, investigated, and reported up the chain of command.

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02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:24.039
<v Speaker 8>We sent information up, but we got no guidance down

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02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:28.479
<v Speaker 8>on how to handle these events. I personally witnessed one

2451
02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:32.680
<v Speaker 8>of these events and investigated others as they occurred. Six

2452
02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:35.720
<v Speaker 8>other service members have provided me with the information that

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02:00:35.760 --> 02:00:39.479
<v Speaker 8>I will share with you today. The incursions began on

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<v Speaker 8>October fourteenth, two thousand and three, when Boeing contractors reported

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02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:47.880
<v Speaker 8>a massive, glowing red square silently hovering over two missile

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02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:52.239
<v Speaker 8>defense sites. After several minutes, it drifted further east onto

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02:00:52.279 --> 02:00:55.920
<v Speaker 8>the base and vanished over the hills. This event, now

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02:00:55.960 --> 02:00:59.640
<v Speaker 8>known as the Vanderberg Red Square, was referenced by Representative

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02:00:59.720 --> 02:01:03.760
<v Speaker 8>Luna at the first hearing on this topic. Official Air

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02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:07.760
<v Speaker 8>Force records of this event are in possession by ARROW

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02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:13.079
<v Speaker 8>and the FBI. Later that night, while I was on duty,

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02:01:13.560 --> 02:01:16.640
<v Speaker 8>security guards at a critical launch site reported a bright,

2463
02:01:16.800 --> 02:01:20.960
<v Speaker 8>fast moving object over the ocean. I responded to the incident.

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<v Speaker 8>Chaos ensued over the radio as the object approached rapidly.

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02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:28.880
<v Speaker 8>I heard my friends screaming, it's coming right at us,

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02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:31.840
<v Speaker 8>It's coming right for us, and now it's right here.

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02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.640
<v Speaker 8>Moments later, I heard them say that it had shot

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02:01:35.680 --> 02:01:39.359
<v Speaker 8>off and was gone. When I arrived on scene, I

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02:01:39.399 --> 02:01:43.600
<v Speaker 8>talked to five shaken witnesses who described a massive triangular

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02:01:43.640 --> 02:01:47.279
<v Speaker 8>craft larger than a football field that hovered silently for

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02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:51.079
<v Speaker 8>about forty five seconds over their enter control point before

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02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:56.319
<v Speaker 8>shooting away at impossible speed. About a week later, another

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02:01:56.399 --> 02:02:00.880
<v Speaker 8>patrol reported a light over the ocean behaving erratically. Believing

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02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:03.800
<v Speaker 8>it might be an unannounced aircraft, they declared an emergency

2475
02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:09.720
<v Speaker 8>and an armed response force responded. Before the forces could arrive,

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02:02:09.840 --> 02:02:13.680
<v Speaker 8>the object descended and either landed or hovered on our

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02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:17.680
<v Speaker 8>flight line, and then took off again at impossible speed.

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<v Speaker 8>The witnesses to this event were threatened and intimidated. Afterward,

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02:02:24.319 --> 02:02:26.960
<v Speaker 8>they were told to keep quiet and think about what

2480
02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:32.199
<v Speaker 8>they were reporting. After that, things did get quiet until

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02:02:32.279 --> 02:02:35.960
<v Speaker 8>about two thousand and five, when another patrol reported a

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02:02:36.079 --> 02:02:40.119
<v Speaker 8>massive triangular craft larger than a C one point thirty

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02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:45.000
<v Speaker 8>silently floating over the installation. He watched it for a

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02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:48.640
<v Speaker 8>few minutes, it traveled west and disappeared into the night.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I had my own encounter again. In two

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<v Speaker 8>thousand and five. I was off duty, sitting in my

2487
02:02:55.359 --> 02:02:58.439
<v Speaker 8>backyard with two other police officers when we noticed what

2488
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:01.279
<v Speaker 8>first appeared to be a satellite in orbit, but it

2489
02:03:01.359 --> 02:03:04.279
<v Speaker 8>wasn't acting like a satellite. The light was strange. It

2490
02:03:04.359 --> 02:03:07.920
<v Speaker 8>was pulsing, and then it started to maneuver. It dropped

2491
02:03:07.920 --> 02:03:11.119
<v Speaker 8>in elevation. At times it would vanish from view and

2492
02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:14.680
<v Speaker 8>reappear in a different location in the sky. And eventually

2493
02:03:14.920 --> 02:03:18.199
<v Speaker 8>it reappeared two hundred feet over my house. It was

2494
02:03:18.239 --> 02:03:22.960
<v Speaker 8>a thirty foot diameter sphere of light. My friends and

2495
02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:25.359
<v Speaker 8>I watched it for a moment, and then it gently

2496
02:03:25.399 --> 02:03:30.359
<v Speaker 8>accelerated and traveled up and disappeared into the stars. These

2497
02:03:30.359 --> 02:03:34.319
<v Speaker 8>events profoundly changed my life and the lives of my friends.

2498
02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:37.800
<v Speaker 8>We stand at a pivotal moment in history. The question

2499
02:03:37.960 --> 02:03:40.800
<v Speaker 8>is no longer whether these events are real, but whether

2500
02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:45.159
<v Speaker 8>we have the courage to face them. True leadership requires vision,

2501
02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:49.279
<v Speaker 8>a willingness to confront the unknown with transparency and resolve.

2502
02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:53.119
<v Speaker 8>So I asked the Congress to help we the people,

2503
02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:58.560
<v Speaker 8>enact this vision. There are three goals. Fund independent research

2504
02:03:58.760 --> 02:04:02.000
<v Speaker 8>and treat UAP study with the same seriousness as we

2505
02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:07.880
<v Speaker 8>would any other scientific feel. Two end secrecy and overclassification.

2506
02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:13.159
<v Speaker 8>Transparency is the foundation of truth. Without it, witnesses like

2507
02:04:13.319 --> 02:04:14.680
<v Speaker 8>us are dismissed.

2508
02:04:15.720 --> 02:04:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Three.

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02:04:16.520 --> 02:04:20.920
<v Speaker 8>Protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of fear for

2510
02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:26.399
<v Speaker 8>their careers. Reputations and the safety of their families. Protect them,

2511
02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:30.920
<v Speaker 8>and you will embolden others to join this cause. These

2512
02:04:30.960 --> 02:04:35.399
<v Speaker 8>phenomenon challenge are deepest assumptions about reality, consciousness, and our

2513
02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:40.399
<v Speaker 8>place in the universe. Exploring them can unlock transformative breakthroughs

2514
02:04:40.439 --> 02:04:45.319
<v Speaker 8>in technology, biology, and human understanding. Let this be the

2515
02:04:45.319 --> 02:04:51.359
<v Speaker 8>moment when America chooses courage over fear, transparency over secrecy,

2516
02:04:51.760 --> 02:04:55.239
<v Speaker 8>and progress over stagnation. Let's show the world that our

2517
02:04:55.359 --> 02:04:58.920
<v Speaker 8>nation leads not only through strength, but through fearless pursuit

2518
02:04:59.000 --> 02:04:59.640
<v Speaker 8>of the truth.

2519
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that was from mister Knukatelly himself. And now

2520
02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you understand what I mean with the fact that like

2521
02:05:06.920 --> 02:05:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this is eyewitnesses. And again the first that we heard

2522
02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was from July of twenty twenty three. This is in

2523
02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:16.479
<v Speaker 1>September of twenty twenty five. They're still talking about the

2524
02:05:16.520 --> 02:05:21.199
<v Speaker 1>same instance of the glowing red cube that flew over Vanderberg.

2525
02:05:21.039 --> 02:05:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Two years, two years later, two solid years of them

2526
02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:28.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, and it still isn't really being confirmed

2527
02:05:28.079 --> 02:05:30.680
<v Speaker 2>or at least you know, mainstream media.

2528
02:05:31.039 --> 02:05:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Right right now again, eyewitness accounts, verified sources, government cover

2529
02:05:38.039 --> 02:05:39.880
<v Speaker 1>up as far as the events in two thousand and three.

2530
02:05:40.439 --> 02:05:44.039
<v Speaker 1>But now we are going to discuss the situation of

2531
02:05:44.079 --> 02:05:47.319
<v Speaker 1>what happened in nineteen sixty four with this nuclear test

2532
02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:51.319
<v Speaker 1>that took place and this flying sauce that shot beams

2533
02:05:51.359 --> 02:05:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of light at it and destroyed it.

2534
02:05:53.479 --> 02:05:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Wit is that the video?

2535
02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:56.119
<v Speaker 1>No, No, this is a CGI.

2536
02:05:56.279 --> 02:05:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's like a CGHI like a weird no,

2537
02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:00.800
<v Speaker 2>But we.

2538
02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Still don't have the video footage of it. This is

2539
02:06:03.359 --> 02:06:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy who was taking the footage who the Air

2540
02:06:06.560 --> 02:06:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Force said never existed.

2541
02:06:09.760 --> 02:06:12.920
<v Speaker 2>He just never existed. You told me the brief overview

2542
02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:15.439
<v Speaker 2>before we started, which is a wild story. I don't

2543
02:06:15.479 --> 02:06:17.079
<v Speaker 2>know if does it go into it in this.

2544
02:06:17.319 --> 02:06:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yes, okay, because this article goes into it.

2545
02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And then so does this YouTube video where the man,

2546
02:06:23.880 --> 02:06:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the myth, the legend himself speaks on behalf of it.

2547
02:06:26.920 --> 02:06:29.359
<v Speaker 1>And he'll even show you sections in the video of

2548
02:06:29.479 --> 02:06:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the launch day where he's there in uniform with his rank.

2549
02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And then they said, you never exit, you weren't even

2550
02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:37.039
<v Speaker 1>in the Air Force. I don't know what you're talking about.

2551
02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:40.399
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, bro, I have the footage, So all right,

2552
02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:43.680
<v Speaker 1>let's dive in here. This is from the sun close encounter.

2553
02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw UFO firing four beams of light at a

2554
02:06:46.760 --> 02:06:51.039
<v Speaker 1>nuke missile we launched from secret airbase, says air Force lieutenant.

2555
02:06:51.319 --> 02:06:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it here. A former Air Force chief

2556
02:06:53.960 --> 02:06:56.760
<v Speaker 1>claimed today how he saw UFO firing four beams of

2557
02:06:56.800 --> 02:07:00.239
<v Speaker 1>light at a nuclear missile undergoing testing X. US Air

2558
02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Force Lieutenant or first Lieutenant Robert Jacobs remembers had to

2559
02:07:03.560 --> 02:07:05.199
<v Speaker 1>put a pin in that name for later. Now is

2560
02:07:05.279 --> 02:07:09.359
<v Speaker 1>later alleged a craft resembling a flying saucer circled the

2561
02:07:09.439 --> 02:07:12.680
<v Speaker 1>dummy warhead during a test flight in California during nineteen

2562
02:07:12.800 --> 02:07:15.920
<v Speaker 1>sixty four. So this is him today or you know

2563
02:07:15.960 --> 02:07:18.319
<v Speaker 1>when this article was written anyways, as an older gentleman

2564
02:07:18.359 --> 02:07:21.039
<v Speaker 1>these days. But despite his claims of what he saw,

2565
02:07:21.079 --> 02:07:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the former serviceman was ordered to never breathe a word

2566
02:07:23.680 --> 02:07:27.159
<v Speaker 1>of what he saw. A bombshell press conference heard along

2567
02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:30.680
<v Speaker 1>with other former American Air Force chiefs, doctor Jacobs was

2568
02:07:30.720 --> 02:07:34.039
<v Speaker 1>given evidence about how aliens tamperable with weapons systems during

2569
02:07:34.119 --> 02:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>tests at nuclear basis and even shut the missiles down.

2570
02:07:37.560 --> 02:07:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Giving his testimony at the National Press Club in Washington,

2571
02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>d C. He says, quote, I was part of a

2572
02:07:43.319 --> 02:07:45.800
<v Speaker 1>US Air Force cover up. It was shaped like a

2573
02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:49.399
<v Speaker 1>flying saucer and firing a beam of light at our warhead.

2574
02:07:50.159 --> 02:07:54.319
<v Speaker 1>On September fourteenth, nineteen sixty four, he was in charge

2575
02:07:54.359 --> 02:07:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of a one hundred man unit. Jacobs had been dispatched

2576
02:07:57.560 --> 02:08:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to the Big Sur in California two photograph with high

2577
02:08:01.399 --> 02:08:06.760
<v Speaker 1>speed instrumentation at Atlas D missile launch from Vanderberg and

2578
02:08:06.840 --> 02:08:08.760
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about Big Sur here in a moment.

2579
02:08:08.760 --> 02:08:11.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a hilltop where his camera was set up. This

2580
02:08:12.119 --> 02:08:15.399
<v Speaker 1>is because all three stages of the rocket's powered flight

2581
02:08:15.840 --> 02:08:18.760
<v Speaker 1>were to be observed, including the separation of a dummy

2582
02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:22.560
<v Speaker 1>warhead on the edge of space. But the next day,

2583
02:08:22.840 --> 02:08:26.199
<v Speaker 1>doctor Jacobs, now a professor at Bradley University, said he

2584
02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:29.680
<v Speaker 1>was called into the office of Major Florin's J. Mansman,

2585
02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Man's man, where three people in gray suits were standing,

2586
02:08:34.159 --> 02:08:39.079
<v Speaker 1>whom he later claimed were CIA. He said, Major Mansman said, Lieutenant,

2587
02:08:39.119 --> 02:08:41.760
<v Speaker 1>sit down and watch this. He turned the projector on

2588
02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and the most amazing thing happened. Doctor Jacobs continued. We

2589
02:08:46.880 --> 02:08:50.079
<v Speaker 1>could see the bottom three stages of that rocket filling

2590
02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the frame from one hundred and sixty miles away. It

2591
02:08:53.600 --> 02:08:56.039
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. The clarity was beautiful, and we watched it

2592
02:08:56.119 --> 02:08:59.079
<v Speaker 1>go through all three stages of powered flight. The nose

2593
02:08:59.119 --> 02:09:03.439
<v Speaker 1>cone opened up and radar chaff aluminum oil spread out.

2594
02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>We were testing to see if we could launch a

2595
02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:09.600
<v Speaker 1>nuclear warhead into orbit slightly above the nuclear chaff, so

2596
02:09:09.640 --> 02:09:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the Russians would aim their anti air missiles at the chaff,

2597
02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and our little warhead would fly over and obliterate Moscow.

2598
02:09:17.399 --> 02:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>That was the game we were playing. Horrifying to think

2599
02:09:19.960 --> 02:09:22.680
<v Speaker 1>about it in retrospect. Again. They were trying to tell

2600
02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:26.119
<v Speaker 1>him that he didn't exist. This is him on the

2601
02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:27.880
<v Speaker 1>day in his Air Force uniform.

2602
02:09:29.000 --> 02:09:31.119
<v Speaker 2>So I love Heather. It's just like you didn't actually

2603
02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:33.760
<v Speaker 2>do what you did and everything in his illusion.

2604
02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly exactly. This is the camera that they were

2605
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.880
<v Speaker 1>using to film the UFO at the edge of orbit.

2606
02:09:40.399 --> 02:09:43.159
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy to me that they have. They had that

2607
02:09:43.279 --> 02:09:47.439
<v Speaker 2>technology back then and they're able to capture something going

2608
02:09:47.520 --> 02:09:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that quickly back then versus what they even could have now.

2609
02:09:51.680 --> 02:09:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but you look at the space photos and

2610
02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:57.520
<v Speaker 2>imaging imagery from all the way out where, God, what

2611
02:09:57.640 --> 02:10:00.640
<v Speaker 2>is that damn little Rover's name not the one I'm

2612
02:10:00.640 --> 02:10:03.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about, the one that's like way way way way

2613
02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:05.720
<v Speaker 2>out there. I forget what it is. But you see

2614
02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:06.239
<v Speaker 2>some of the.

2615
02:10:06.640 --> 02:10:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Pictures you talk about in the El EO movie.

2616
02:10:08.600 --> 02:10:13.560
<v Speaker 2>It's wild, like what they can actually see and the

2617
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.000
<v Speaker 2>amount of technology they have now agreed.

2618
02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:20.159
<v Speaker 1>So continuing on, it says, but suddenly, from in the frame,

2619
02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he claims he saw an object following the test missile,

2620
02:10:23.520 --> 02:10:26.319
<v Speaker 1>which was traveling at eight thousand miles per hour.

2621
02:10:27.359 --> 02:10:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Like I said earlier, it's a roadrunner beebeep, so.

2622
02:10:30.479 --> 02:10:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Basically, and we're talking about a missile going that fast,

2623
02:10:33.159 --> 02:10:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and some sort of a craft was keeping up with

2624
02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it neck and neck and following it.

2625
02:10:36.960 --> 02:10:39.279
<v Speaker 2>It just like slowed itself down just to hang out

2626
02:10:39.279 --> 02:10:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and like, what is this thing?

2627
02:10:40.960 --> 02:10:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Essentially, the UFO was said to have had honed in

2628
02:10:44.239 --> 02:10:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and fired four beams at the warhead. Doctor Jacob said,

2629
02:10:47.920 --> 02:10:50.039
<v Speaker 1>then it flew out a frame the same way it

2630
02:10:50.039 --> 02:10:52.680
<v Speaker 1>had come in. At that point, the warhead tumbled out

2631
02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:53.279
<v Speaker 1>of space.

2632
02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it didn't even explode. It just they like a shot.

2633
02:10:57.880 --> 02:11:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a live warhead. They were testing the rock

2634
02:11:00.479 --> 02:11:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to see if it was capable of doing this. But

2635
02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:04.560
<v Speaker 1>then once it got hit with these beams of light,

2636
02:11:04.600 --> 02:11:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the warhead basically just said wamp wamp and fell hmmm,

2637
02:11:08.359 --> 02:11:10.159
<v Speaker 1>So it didn't even hover like they were hoping it

2638
02:11:10.159 --> 02:11:12.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go into lower Earth or any of that. It

2639
02:11:12.319 --> 02:11:13.279
<v Speaker 1>just fell out of the sky.

2640
02:11:14.319 --> 02:11:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

2641
02:11:15.720 --> 02:11:18.439
<v Speaker 1>The light came on and Major Manasman and the two

2642
02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:20.880
<v Speaker 1>guys in gray suits looked at me, and the major said,

2643
02:11:21.199 --> 02:11:24.199
<v Speaker 1>were you guys screwing around up there the camera site?

2644
02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, sir, and he said what was that?

2645
02:11:27.880 --> 02:11:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And it said, I said, it looks to me like

2646
02:11:30.800 --> 02:11:34.760
<v Speaker 1>we have a UFO. But he was baffled, Young lieutenant

2647
02:11:34.880 --> 02:11:38.199
<v Speaker 1>ordered to belt up or else, Doctor Jacob said. He

2648
02:11:38.319 --> 02:11:40.640
<v Speaker 1>escorted me to his door and said, I don't need

2649
02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to remind you of the seriousness of the security breach.

2650
02:11:44.279 --> 02:11:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, sir, But as I left, he leaned

2651
02:11:47.079 --> 02:11:49.000
<v Speaker 1>over to speak in my ear, as if to say

2652
02:11:49.039 --> 02:11:51.920
<v Speaker 1>something that the guys and suits couldn't hear. He said, Lieutenant,

2653
02:11:52.359 --> 02:11:55.439
<v Speaker 1>if you were ever tortured in the future, somebody has

2654
02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you up against the wall and they're frying your privates

2655
02:11:57.880 --> 02:12:01.800
<v Speaker 1>with fire, you can tell them this it was laser tracking.

2656
02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:05.119
<v Speaker 1>So basically he's told, not only are you never going

2657
02:12:05.159 --> 02:12:07.399
<v Speaker 1>to speak of this, but if somebody is like torturing

2658
02:12:07.439 --> 02:12:09.399
<v Speaker 1>you tell them it was just a laser tracker that

2659
02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:10.319
<v Speaker 1>we had on the device.

2660
02:12:10.520 --> 02:12:13.079
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, that's not threatening at all or anything.

2661
02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:16.199
<v Speaker 1>And this is the best part. We never had laser

2662
02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:17.680
<v Speaker 1>tracking in nineteen sixty four.

2663
02:12:19.119 --> 02:12:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh so he admitted today knowing to having advanced technology

2664
02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:25.720
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote for that time period.

2665
02:12:25.840 --> 02:12:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, he's telling this guy, if they ever ask you

2666
02:12:27.560 --> 02:12:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to tell it was laser tracking. This dude's like, what

2667
02:12:29.279 --> 02:12:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is laser tracking?

2668
02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Right?

2669
02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, what is that? And old boys this like you'll

2670
02:12:33.840 --> 02:12:34.359
<v Speaker 2>be all right.

2671
02:12:34.359 --> 02:12:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Right, he added, What we are here today to tell

2672
02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you is that this is real, the event that is

2673
02:12:40.640 --> 02:12:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the most important event in history of mankind. We are

2674
02:12:43.880 --> 02:12:47.680
<v Speaker 1>not alone and this is the man's mean guy on

2675
02:12:47.800 --> 02:12:49.720
<v Speaker 1>screen right now, which we're not sharing the screen at

2676
02:12:49.760 --> 02:12:51.199
<v Speaker 1>this moment, which you know it is what it is.

2677
02:12:52.680 --> 02:12:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Four former US Air Force captains will speak about worrying

2678
02:12:55.920 --> 02:12:59.800
<v Speaker 1>incidents going back several decades and show declassified government documents.

2679
02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:02.479
<v Speaker 1>They are calling for the US Congress to investigate and

2680
02:13:02.520 --> 02:13:06.680
<v Speaker 1>hold public hearings into reports that UFOs have disabled nuclear weapons.

2681
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Former Air Force officer Robert Sallas was the on duty

2682
02:13:10.680 --> 02:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>commander of an underground launch control facility assigned to Malmstrom

2683
02:13:14.880 --> 02:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base, Montana. This is in nineteen sixty seven.

2684
02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:23.279
<v Speaker 1>He claims all ten of his intercontinental ballistic missiles became inoperable.

2685
02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Sallas added that eight days earlier, on March sixteenth, nineteen

2686
02:13:27.640 --> 02:13:31.079
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven, a similar incident occurred at another missile launch

2687
02:13:31.199 --> 02:13:35.960
<v Speaker 1>control facility. Yeah, they're basically newtering the nukes. Speaking to

2688
02:13:36.000 --> 02:13:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the Sun Online, he said he was hopeful that the

2689
02:13:38.680 --> 02:13:41.000
<v Speaker 1>following the press conference that the US Air Force would

2690
02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:44.439
<v Speaker 1>finally break its silence about UFOs. So basically that's the

2691
02:13:44.520 --> 02:13:46.720
<v Speaker 1>end of this article as far as the pertinent information goes.

2692
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:50.039
<v Speaker 1>But now, good cult members, we are going to go

2693
02:13:50.079 --> 02:13:52.800
<v Speaker 1>ahead and play this next clip. This is the man,

2694
02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the myth, the legend himself speaking about what he saw

2695
02:13:56.399 --> 02:14:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that many years ago in sixty four. This out.

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02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:04.079
<v Speaker 5>The United States government will neither confirm nor deny the

2697
02:14:04.119 --> 02:14:09.760
<v Speaker 5>existence of uf foes, but unofficially a stream of retired

2698
02:14:09.840 --> 02:14:13.319
<v Speaker 5>military personnel and not coming forward with critical information about

2699
02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:17.520
<v Speaker 5>unidentified craft they encountered in the line of duty. Among

2700
02:14:17.560 --> 02:14:21.079
<v Speaker 5>them Robert Jacobs, a former Air Force cameraman who believes

2701
02:14:21.079 --> 02:14:23.640
<v Speaker 5>that there is film out there somewhere that proves that

2702
02:14:23.680 --> 02:14:26.439
<v Speaker 5>the government knows more than they are willing to tell.

2703
02:14:30.760 --> 02:14:34.199
<v Speaker 9>We just come out of the most destructive war on

2704
02:14:34.279 --> 02:14:37.720
<v Speaker 9>the face of the planet, World War II, fifty million dead.

2705
02:14:38.520 --> 02:14:42.039
<v Speaker 9>We had just barely gotten beyond that, and suddenly, according

2706
02:14:42.079 --> 02:14:46.279
<v Speaker 9>to documents, there were mysterious objects maneuvering in American airspace.

2707
02:14:47.000 --> 02:14:50.680
<v Speaker 5>UFL researcher and lecturer Robert Hastings, who spent twenty two

2708
02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:54.640
<v Speaker 5>years studying the United States interest in and reaction to

2709
02:14:55.199 --> 02:14:58.720
<v Speaker 5>reports of UFOs. Hastings has concluded that not only is

2710
02:14:58.760 --> 02:15:01.279
<v Speaker 5>the government fooling the ABOTA in the public, they've been

2711
02:15:01.279 --> 02:15:02.239
<v Speaker 5>fooling themselves.

2712
02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:06.560
<v Speaker 9>I think it's not a coincidence that the phenomenon has

2713
02:15:06.600 --> 02:15:10.199
<v Speaker 9>accelerated its activity precisely at a time in human history

2714
02:15:10.239 --> 02:15:14.760
<v Speaker 9>when we've acquired nuclear weapons. I have interviewed twenty one

2715
02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:19.359
<v Speaker 9>former and retired Air Force personnel associated with nuclear missile

2716
02:15:19.960 --> 02:15:24.359
<v Speaker 9>squadrons who have referred to incidents involving the presence of

2717
02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:26.720
<v Speaker 9>flying saucers.

2718
02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:31.319
<v Speaker 5>That theory is based in point on the personal experiences

2719
02:15:31.359 --> 02:15:33.800
<v Speaker 5>of Robert Jacobs, a former Air Force lieutenant.

2720
02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:35.840
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty four, Lieutenant.

2721
02:15:35.520 --> 02:15:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Jacobs claims he sat in a room at Vandenberg Air

2722
02:15:38.000 --> 02:15:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Force Base and saw a UFO that haunts him to

2723
02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:41.520
<v Speaker 5>this day.

2724
02:15:42.960 --> 02:15:44.359
<v Speaker 10>Hairs going up on the back of my neck right

2725
02:15:44.399 --> 02:15:47.359
<v Speaker 10>now thinking about it, just remembering that day I saw

2726
02:15:47.439 --> 02:15:49.560
<v Speaker 10>something that was so strange that it changed my life,

2727
02:15:49.800 --> 02:15:54.199
<v Speaker 10>changed the way I believe about the universe and my

2728
02:15:54.319 --> 02:15:55.800
<v Speaker 10>place in it and our place in it.

2729
02:15:57.119 --> 02:16:01.039
<v Speaker 5>In nineteen sixty four, Lieutenant Robert Jacobs wationed at Vandenberg

2730
02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:03.800
<v Speaker 5>Air Force Base, California. He was in charge of a

2731
02:16:03.880 --> 02:16:08.039
<v Speaker 5>special photographic unit filming test flights of Actless and minic

2732
02:16:08.119 --> 02:16:11.199
<v Speaker 5>Mad missiles, both nuclear weapon delivery systems.

2733
02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:13.840
<v Speaker 10>When you launched a piece of equipment that costs four

2734
02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:16.000
<v Speaker 10>or five million dollars just for the piece of equipment

2735
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:18.560
<v Speaker 10>and it blows up three hundred yards out of the hole,

2736
02:16:19.119 --> 02:16:20.600
<v Speaker 10>we want to know first of all, why.

2737
02:16:20.439 --> 02:16:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Did it blow up?

2738
02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:26.640
<v Speaker 10>So my job was to provide photographic documentation from thirty

2739
02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:28.960
<v Speaker 10>or forty different camera positions for each launch.

2740
02:16:29.640 --> 02:16:33.360
<v Speaker 5>In November of nineteen sixty four, Jacobs was assigned film

2741
02:16:33.360 --> 02:16:36.799
<v Speaker 5>of Vandenburg missile launch using a brand new, state of

2742
02:16:36.799 --> 02:16:39.440
<v Speaker 5>the art telescope developed at Boston University.

2743
02:16:39.799 --> 02:16:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the most powerful lens.

2744
02:16:41.479 --> 02:16:43.959
<v Speaker 10>The Air Force had ever used, the biggest lens we

2745
02:16:44.040 --> 02:16:45.799
<v Speaker 10>had on our m forty fives was one hundred and

2746
02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:49.200
<v Speaker 10>eighty inches. This telescope had an effective focal length of

2747
02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:51.719
<v Speaker 10>one two hundred inches, so you can see that it's

2748
02:16:51.879 --> 02:16:54.959
<v Speaker 10>enormously bigger. It was so big, in fact, that when

2749
02:16:55.040 --> 02:16:58.719
<v Speaker 10>the missile left Vandenberg with the Boston University telescope in

2750
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:03.200
<v Speaker 10>one single frame, just the bottom three engines on an

2751
02:17:03.239 --> 02:17:05.760
<v Speaker 10>Atlas A f filled the frame. That was from a

2752
02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:08.600
<v Speaker 10>distance of about one hundred and thirty nautical miles.

2753
02:17:09.680 --> 02:17:12.680
<v Speaker 5>In a top secret mission, the telescope was flown in

2754
02:17:12.799 --> 02:17:16.879
<v Speaker 5>from Boston aboard a Hercules aircraft. This is actual footage

2755
02:17:16.879 --> 02:17:20.639
<v Speaker 5>shot by Jacob's unit and only recently rediscovered in his archive.

2756
02:17:21.079 --> 02:17:23.719
<v Speaker 5>The telescope was so large it had to be hauled

2757
02:17:23.760 --> 02:17:27.159
<v Speaker 5>to its site in an eighteen wheel big rate. Jacob's

2758
02:17:27.200 --> 02:17:31.079
<v Speaker 5>crew assisted the telescope's inventor, Wilter Manning, with the installation

2759
02:17:31.159 --> 02:17:33.639
<v Speaker 5>of the lens. The camera was perched on a bluff

2760
02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:36.239
<v Speaker 5>in Big Sur, one hundred and thirty miles from the

2761
02:17:36.280 --> 02:17:37.040
<v Speaker 5>launch site.

2762
02:17:37.159 --> 02:17:38.680
<v Speaker 10>We walked out of the missile and we saw all

2763
02:17:38.719 --> 02:17:41.879
<v Speaker 10>three stages of powered flight through our binoculars.

2764
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:42.879
<v Speaker 3>We could see that happen.

2765
02:17:44.399 --> 02:17:46.760
<v Speaker 5>It was a test of a top secret anti missile

2766
02:17:46.799 --> 02:17:50.200
<v Speaker 5>missile one designed to confuse enemy missiles and then go

2767
02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:53.319
<v Speaker 5>on to hit its target. The camera was programmed to

2768
02:17:53.399 --> 02:17:57.239
<v Speaker 5>follow the missile automatically and run for six minutes, long

2769
02:17:57.280 --> 02:17:59.360
<v Speaker 5>past the point where the missile was visible.

2770
02:18:00.159 --> 02:18:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Now what we.

2771
02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:05.559
<v Speaker 3>Didn't know is what else we had got besides the missile.

2772
02:18:06.559 --> 02:18:10.239
<v Speaker 5>After the film was developed, project director Major Florenz Mansman

2773
02:18:10.559 --> 02:18:14.559
<v Speaker 5>called Jacobs into his office, and Major Mansman was not alone.

2774
02:18:14.760 --> 02:18:17.879
<v Speaker 10>There were two guys in gray suits in there, civilian clothes.

2775
02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:19.280
<v Speaker 10>They were not in the Air Force. They were from

2776
02:18:19.319 --> 02:18:22.799
<v Speaker 10>somewhere else. They never identified themselves. They could have been

2777
02:18:22.920 --> 02:18:25.879
<v Speaker 10>cia osi Oss.

2778
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:29.000
<v Speaker 5>Jacobs was asked to watch his test film in the

2779
02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:31.079
<v Speaker 5>presence of these mysterious officials.

2780
02:18:31.559 --> 02:18:35.280
<v Speaker 10>The nosecones spread out. The warhead was quite plainly visible.

2781
02:18:36.399 --> 02:18:39.840
<v Speaker 10>Something flew into the frame. What I saw was a

2782
02:18:39.840 --> 02:18:44.799
<v Speaker 10>circular object. It was a classic flying saucer, and it

2783
02:18:44.920 --> 02:18:48.440
<v Speaker 10>shot a beam of something at our warhead. You have

2784
02:18:48.440 --> 02:18:50.719
<v Speaker 10>to imagine this thing is flying along several thousand miles

2785
02:18:50.719 --> 02:18:51.040
<v Speaker 10>an hour.

2786
02:18:51.120 --> 02:18:52.959
<v Speaker 3>The stuff is flying on and something comes into the.

2787
02:18:52.920 --> 02:18:55.600
<v Speaker 10>Frame and chasing it, and comes in like this and

2788
02:18:55.680 --> 02:18:57.639
<v Speaker 10>fires at it, and goes around like this and fires

2789
02:18:57.680 --> 02:18:59.200
<v Speaker 10>at it and goes around like this and fires at

2790
02:18:59.239 --> 02:18:59.719
<v Speaker 10>it and fires that.

2791
02:18:59.719 --> 02:19:01.959
<v Speaker 3>Are like then goes back out that way. What the

2792
02:19:02.000 --> 02:19:03.559
<v Speaker 3>hell could do that?

2793
02:19:03.559 --> 02:19:06.280
<v Speaker 5>That was exactly what Major Manxman wanted to know.

2794
02:19:06.559 --> 02:19:08.040
<v Speaker 3>And he said what was that?

2795
02:19:08.959 --> 02:19:11.440
<v Speaker 10>And I said, it looks to me like we got

2796
02:19:11.479 --> 02:19:16.159
<v Speaker 10>a UFO And he said you are never to say

2797
02:19:16.159 --> 02:19:16.600
<v Speaker 10>that again.

2798
02:19:17.600 --> 02:19:19.639
<v Speaker 3>As far as you're concerning Lieutenant Jacobs.

2799
02:19:19.840 --> 02:19:25.520
<v Speaker 10>This never happened, and I was sworn to silence, reminded

2800
02:19:25.600 --> 02:19:28.639
<v Speaker 10>of the security of the severity of a security breach.

2801
02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:29.559
<v Speaker 3>And told to leave the room.

2802
02:19:31.360 --> 02:19:34.639
<v Speaker 10>Eighteen years went by with that image in my mind.

2803
02:19:35.840 --> 02:19:39.719
<v Speaker 5>After eighteen years of silence, Jacobs felt compelled to go public.

2804
02:19:40.159 --> 02:19:43.600
<v Speaker 5>When he did, the official Air Force response was astonishing.

2805
02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:46.840
<v Speaker 10>The Air Force denied that I was ever there. There

2806
02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:49.079
<v Speaker 10>was no Lieutenant Robert M. Jacobs and the Air Force

2807
02:19:49.079 --> 02:19:52.280
<v Speaker 10>at that time. I was never at VanderBurg Air Force Base.

2808
02:19:53.079 --> 02:19:55.120
<v Speaker 10>If I was at VanderBurg Air Force Base, I was

2809
02:19:55.120 --> 02:19:58.360
<v Speaker 10>never in charge of the photo optical Instrumentation section at

2810
02:19:58.360 --> 02:20:01.840
<v Speaker 10>the thirteen sixty Photographics squadront right here at this base.

2811
02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:06.680
<v Speaker 10>They denied then that there was a track inside of

2812
02:20:06.719 --> 02:20:09.079
<v Speaker 10>Big Sirt. They denied that there was a telescope called

2813
02:20:09.079 --> 02:20:10.120
<v Speaker 10>the BU telescope.

2814
02:20:10.159 --> 02:20:13.200
<v Speaker 3>They denied that there was a doctor Walter Manny. They

2815
02:20:13.239 --> 02:20:14.319
<v Speaker 3>denied everything.

2816
02:20:15.799 --> 02:20:19.399
<v Speaker 5>However, Sightings has obtained documents that proved he was in

2817
02:20:19.440 --> 02:20:22.079
<v Speaker 5>the Air Force in nineteen sixty four and that he

2818
02:20:22.280 --> 02:20:25.559
<v Speaker 5>was in charge of the photo optical instrumentation site at

2819
02:20:25.559 --> 02:20:29.639
<v Speaker 5>Big Sur. In a letter to Sightings, Florens Mansman, Lieutenant

2820
02:20:29.719 --> 02:20:32.920
<v Speaker 5>Jacob's direct superior and the man present when the infamous

2821
02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:36.280
<v Speaker 5>UPO footage was screened, says quote, I am writing to

2822
02:20:36.360 --> 02:20:41.079
<v Speaker 5>confirm doctor Jacob's account as he had described it, but

2823
02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:45.120
<v Speaker 5>by far the most compelling evidence is this film, which

2824
02:20:45.159 --> 02:20:48.040
<v Speaker 5>proves the existence of an event the Air Force continues

2825
02:20:48.120 --> 02:20:48.600
<v Speaker 5>to deny.

2826
02:20:49.520 --> 02:20:52.520
<v Speaker 10>The Air Force is probably not going to like this film,

2827
02:20:52.639 --> 02:20:54.079
<v Speaker 10>but there's nothing they can do about it.

2828
02:20:54.079 --> 02:20:56.799
<v Speaker 3>It exists, It documents, the telescope.

2829
02:20:56.239 --> 02:20:59.520
<v Speaker 10>The people who were there, including me, and if there

2830
02:20:59.520 --> 02:21:02.239
<v Speaker 10>any reifications about it, I guess I just don't care anymore.

2831
02:21:07.399 --> 02:21:10.120
<v Speaker 1>So, as we just saw, they went out of their

2832
02:21:10.159 --> 02:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>way to say that this dude never even existed, he

2833
02:21:13.079 --> 02:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>never was in the Air Force.

2834
02:21:14.360 --> 02:21:17.959
<v Speaker 2>He's in the video, but everything they didn't just go

2835
02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:22.559
<v Speaker 2>that far. They everything everything about it, the telescope, the

2836
02:21:22.680 --> 02:21:25.280
<v Speaker 2>whole the whole thing, the system that they did, I

2837
02:21:25.319 --> 02:21:27.920
<v Speaker 2>mean everything. They just denied it.

2838
02:21:27.680 --> 02:21:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Just for the hell of it, just whatever.

2839
02:21:30.399 --> 02:21:35.159
<v Speaker 2>That's wild. So they've never actually agreed that a UFO happened,

2840
02:21:35.319 --> 02:21:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So they just have they at least acknowledged that he

2841
02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>exists because they have no options, but.

2842
02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Nothing basically okay, basically they said, you know what, screw

2843
02:21:48.559 --> 02:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>this dude, screw his testimony. Whatever. You know, security is

2844
02:21:52.280 --> 02:21:54.879
<v Speaker 1>a big deal around here, and these two suits over

2845
02:21:54.920 --> 02:21:57.040
<v Speaker 1>here will make sure that your life's hell. And it's

2846
02:21:57.079 --> 02:21:59.559
<v Speaker 1>like it start to finish. The camera that they were

2847
02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:02.559
<v Speaker 1>using was something that it was a special occurrence that

2848
02:22:02.600 --> 02:22:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they even had to use this type of camera because

2849
02:22:04.840 --> 02:22:08.079
<v Speaker 1>of the distance that this rocket was going to be going.

2850
02:22:08.440 --> 02:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't just use their regular way. It was like

2851
02:22:10.200 --> 02:22:13.440
<v Speaker 1>one hundred something inch camera. They had to use like

2852
02:22:13.479 --> 02:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>one thousand inch camera, right, all these things and then

2853
02:22:17.440 --> 02:22:20.239
<v Speaker 1>they said, no, that never happened. This dude's full of shit.

2854
02:22:20.360 --> 02:22:24.079
<v Speaker 1>It's all part of some hoax. Cut to the Big

2855
02:22:24.159 --> 02:22:26.719
<v Speaker 1>sur Ufo. For anybody wants to look this up, Big

2856
02:22:26.799 --> 02:22:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Sir is sur Ufo. The Big surr Ufo is a

2857
02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:33.879
<v Speaker 1>reported UFO incident that took place during a nineteen sixty

2858
02:22:33.879 --> 02:22:37.959
<v Speaker 1>four Air Force deployment to a mountaintop near Big Sur, California.

2859
02:22:38.280 --> 02:22:42.479
<v Speaker 1>The deployment was a mission was a mission to film

2860
02:22:42.600 --> 02:22:46.520
<v Speaker 1>at list missile tests from Vanderberg Air Force Base. Since

2861
02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two. Robert Jacobs, who has overseen the mountaintop team,

2862
02:22:49.760 --> 02:22:52.799
<v Speaker 1>has claimed the team filmed an intelligently controlled flying device

2863
02:22:53.120 --> 02:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that followed a missile and emitted a beam of energy

2864
02:22:56.239 --> 02:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to disable the weapon, and then they they just completely

2865
02:22:59.799 --> 02:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>cut it up. It is what it is. These are

2866
02:23:02.319 --> 02:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>considered fringe claims of an extraterrestrial.

2867
02:23:06.280 --> 02:23:09.719
<v Speaker 2>That was a fantastic show, by the way, fringe, and

2868
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have never actually watched it. But

2869
02:23:12.040 --> 02:23:15.280
<v Speaker 2>then you want to talk about something that goes into conspiracies.

2870
02:23:15.120 --> 02:23:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that show. Hell yeah, So this is all considered

2871
02:23:18.600 --> 02:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>fringe claims, right, all these.

2872
02:23:19.959 --> 02:23:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Things, it's all fake. And he's so apparently fake as well.

2873
02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:29.079
<v Speaker 1>So here's the decoy warhead's explanation, because yeah, that's that's

2874
02:23:29.079 --> 02:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>something that we need in our lives, right, Okay. In

2875
02:23:32.200 --> 02:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>response to Jacob's claims of extraterrestrial interference, Kingston A. George,

2876
02:23:36.799 --> 02:23:40.159
<v Speaker 1>who had been a project engineer during the incident, published

2877
02:23:40.159 --> 02:23:45.079
<v Speaker 1>a piece in The Skeptical Inquirer disputing Jacob's claims. George

2878
02:23:45.120 --> 02:23:48.360
<v Speaker 1>authored a second article in two thousand and nine. George

2879
02:23:48.360 --> 02:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>explained that, like Jacob's he had seen footage he was

2880
02:23:51.239 --> 02:23:55.360
<v Speaker 1>not actually cleared to see. George reported that, like Jacobs,

2881
02:23:55.399 --> 02:23:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he always was instructed never to speak of it again,

2882
02:24:00.200 --> 02:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that unlike Jacobs, he was aware of the true purpose

2883
02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of the test to film the deployment of decoy warheads

2884
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and chaff meant to confuse enemy air defenses. According to George,

2885
02:24:11.360 --> 02:24:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the lights that Jacob reported were actually caused not by

2886
02:24:14.360 --> 02:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>UFO energy beams, but by the explosive deployment of decoys

2887
02:24:18.479 --> 02:24:19.079
<v Speaker 1>and chaff.

2888
02:24:20.040 --> 02:24:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so check, So they paid off somebody to count

2889
02:24:25.079 --> 02:24:25.879
<v Speaker 2>and counter him.

2890
02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:28.120
<v Speaker 1>The reason is to make sense is because the chaff

2891
02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't deployed until it got to eight thousand feet or

2892
02:24:30.840 --> 02:24:31.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case was.

2893
02:24:31.559 --> 02:24:33.920
<v Speaker 2>However, didn't say it was only a couple hundred feet above.

2894
02:24:34.120 --> 02:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and so this thing was traveling with it

2895
02:24:38.520 --> 02:24:42.079
<v Speaker 1>eight thousand miles per hour. Shot it with three beams

2896
02:24:42.079 --> 02:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of light, four beams of light, and then it zoomed off.

2897
02:24:46.200 --> 02:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But the chaff that was three hundred feet off the

2898
02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>ground is clearly what they were looking at when it

2899
02:24:50.959 --> 02:24:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was in the troposphere or whatever the fuck it was

2900
02:24:53.399 --> 02:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>whenever it went up.

2901
02:24:54.639 --> 02:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Clearly, clearly, clearly okay, because.

2902
02:24:57.319 --> 02:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>The chaff is going to keep up with the rocket

2903
02:24:59.360 --> 02:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>going eight thousand some miles per hour for a bit too,

2904
02:25:01.680 --> 02:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>because that that's how that works.

2905
02:25:04.280 --> 02:25:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I love that they It's like they're so bad at

2906
02:25:06.719 --> 02:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to cover shit up too.

2907
02:25:08.319 --> 02:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Like, could you imagine just imagine this a jet, you

2908
02:25:12.000 --> 02:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>know how there I've been a helicopter. You know how

2909
02:25:14.600 --> 02:25:17.239
<v Speaker 1>there's uh flares and shaft that they shoot out to

2910
02:25:17.639 --> 02:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>be an air defense to turn against like round air

2911
02:25:19.799 --> 02:25:22.559
<v Speaker 1>missiles and things like this. Could you imagine if a

2912
02:25:22.639 --> 02:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>helicopter deploys its flares and then one of these flares

2913
02:25:26.239 --> 02:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>decides to keep up with it and maneuver with it

2914
02:25:29.479 --> 02:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>for like a good section of time instead of just

2915
02:25:32.159 --> 02:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>falling to the ground like it's supposed to. Yeah, like

2916
02:25:36.079 --> 02:25:37.559
<v Speaker 1>out loud, that's fucking retarding.

2917
02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how they think people are just gonna

2918
02:25:40.239 --> 02:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>be this stupid to where they just accept the narrative

2919
02:25:43.079 --> 02:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that they push and it's not even like a well

2920
02:25:44.680 --> 02:25:45.559
<v Speaker 2>crafted narrative.

2921
02:25:45.639 --> 02:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>It's not It's like.

2922
02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:50.200
<v Speaker 2>A half assed just lunch. Bock threw it out like, oh,

2923
02:25:50.280 --> 02:25:53.639
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, just here here's something just to just

2924
02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:55.280
<v Speaker 2>to have and shut the fuck up about.

2925
02:25:55.600 --> 02:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Basically, it's so dumb to me. In twenty twenty five,

2926
02:26:00.680 --> 02:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal revealed that hundreds of Air Force

2927
02:26:03.280 --> 02:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>personnel have been told falsely that there was quote a

2928
02:26:05.879 --> 02:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>secret program to harvest alien technology end quote. The piece

2929
02:26:10.239 --> 02:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>describes it as a long running practice that was like

2930
02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>a fraternity hazing ritual that spun wildly out of control.

2931
02:26:17.639 --> 02:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>The report also explained that a classified electromagnetic pulse test

2932
02:26:21.920 --> 02:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>had been responsible for UFO reports and missiles going offline

2933
02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty seven. So first they say it's a

2934
02:26:28.879 --> 02:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>piece of chaff. Now they're saying it is a super

2935
02:26:32.120 --> 02:26:36.239
<v Speaker 1>top secret classified electromagnetic pulse test that they were running

2936
02:26:36.239 --> 02:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that no one else knew about. But they happened to

2937
02:26:38.319 --> 02:26:40.079
<v Speaker 1>run this test on the day when they had a

2938
02:26:40.239 --> 02:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>very specific camera angled up to see this missile go off.

2939
02:26:44.399 --> 02:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>It's it's none of it makes any sense. Honestly, none

2940
02:26:47.440 --> 02:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>of it makes sense. Not to mention this happened in

2941
02:26:49.079 --> 02:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>sixty four. They're saying the electromagnetic test went online in

2942
02:26:52.959 --> 02:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven, so like, but yeah, it's just a it's

2943
02:26:56.799 --> 02:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a hazing ritual.

2944
02:26:57.799 --> 02:26:57.959
<v Speaker 4>You know.

2945
02:26:58.040 --> 02:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You gotta tell all the young guys that were out

2946
02:26:59.520 --> 02:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>here looking for UFO.

2947
02:27:00.520 --> 02:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Shit, because yeah, that makes sense. I love the government.

2948
02:27:05.319 --> 02:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>They're just so fantastic, aren't They Just like the cool

2949
02:27:08.479 --> 02:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and their stories are the best, the best bet ever ever.

2950
02:27:13.040 --> 02:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>All Right, So now as we are wrapping this episode,

2951
02:27:16.639 --> 02:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the flying red cube gelatinous possibly in

2952
02:27:22.040 --> 02:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four, and we are talking about that are

2953
02:27:25.200 --> 02:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>actually the saucer was in sixty four, the gelatinous possibly

2954
02:27:28.319 --> 02:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>cube was in two thousand and three. Yes, now let's

2955
02:27:32.040 --> 02:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>hear from John Lear. Have you ever heard this name before?

2956
02:27:36.719 --> 02:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Nope.

2957
02:27:37.399 --> 02:27:41.239
<v Speaker 1>John Lear isn't a or at least was considered an

2958
02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>expert in ufology. And he says, by his own emission,

2959
02:27:45.959 --> 02:27:49.719
<v Speaker 1>he was a retired military guy himself that we have

2960
02:27:50.239 --> 02:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>contact with multiple species of aliens.

2961
02:27:53.520 --> 02:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I recognize his face, but I actually don't know anything

2962
02:27:55.840 --> 02:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>about it.

2963
02:27:56.239 --> 02:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, so this is George Knap, this is the U,

2964
02:27:58.479 --> 02:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>this is the anchor that was about Okay, so I

2965
02:28:01.399 --> 02:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was like.

2966
02:28:01.639 --> 02:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>This guy's face looks familiar.

2967
02:28:03.200 --> 02:28:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is from eyewitness news and he had a

2968
02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of very interesting people come on the show as eyewenut.

2969
02:28:08.360 --> 02:28:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so at least I'm not that dumb.

2970
02:28:10.520 --> 02:28:12.799
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no no. Without further ado, good cult members,

2971
02:28:12.799 --> 02:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen yet again,

2972
02:28:15.760 --> 02:28:19.559
<v Speaker 1>and we are gonna learn about John Lear and his

2973
02:28:19.680 --> 02:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>time he went on the Georgian n app Eyewitness News

2974
02:28:23.040 --> 02:28:25.959
<v Speaker 1>eight to talk about the extraterrestrials. This was a part

2975
02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of like a forty five minute thing. We're not gonna

2976
02:28:28.319 --> 02:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>watch the entirety of it for obvious reasons, but we

2977
02:28:30.920 --> 02:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>are going to watch this eight minute segment. And okay,

2978
02:28:33.959 --> 02:28:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I would love to and if you want to pause

2979
02:28:35.319 --> 02:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>at any point to talk about it, let me know,

2980
02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:40.319
<v Speaker 1>because he's gonna just be dropping some truth bombs on

2981
02:28:40.360 --> 02:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>this one that at the time seemed crazy. This was crazy,

2982
02:28:44.079 --> 02:28:46.639
<v Speaker 1>this was in the eighties. There's no way this is accurate.

2983
02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And then we cut to the information that we're discussing

2984
02:28:49.600 --> 02:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>openly on Congress today. So let's get into a good

2985
02:28:52.479 --> 02:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>cult members, let's learn together.

2986
02:28:54.760 --> 02:28:56.920
<v Speaker 11>Welcome to on the record those of us, those of

2987
02:28:58.079 --> 02:29:00.920
<v Speaker 11>you who joined us last week were probably amazed as

2988
02:29:00.959 --> 02:29:03.120
<v Speaker 11>I was, by some of the latest research in the

2989
02:29:03.120 --> 02:29:06.840
<v Speaker 11>field of UFOs there is so much to talk about, however,

2990
02:29:06.879 --> 02:29:09.040
<v Speaker 11>we were unable to fit it all into one program.

2991
02:29:09.079 --> 02:29:12.239
<v Speaker 11>So my guest again this week is UFO researcher, former

2992
02:29:12.280 --> 02:29:15.719
<v Speaker 11>State Senate candidate, and award winning pilot John Lear.

2993
02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Mister Lear, nice to have you here again.

2994
02:29:17.319 --> 02:29:18.879
<v Speaker 6>Ore is a pleasure to be here, George.

2995
02:29:19.520 --> 02:29:22.040
<v Speaker 11>To begin with, we have this concept of the people

2996
02:29:22.079 --> 02:29:26.600
<v Speaker 11>from other planets as little green men. Are they green?

2997
02:29:26.680 --> 02:29:29.200
<v Speaker 11>From what you know? Are they all the same or

2998
02:29:29.239 --> 02:29:30.440
<v Speaker 11>we got different kinds of them?

2999
02:29:30.520 --> 02:29:33.879
<v Speaker 6>George is at least seventy different species and probably more.

3000
02:29:34.239 --> 02:29:37.000
<v Speaker 6>But yes, as odd as it sounds, there are little

3001
02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:39.280
<v Speaker 6>green men. That's not the ones we usually see though.

3002
02:29:39.600 --> 02:29:42.079
<v Speaker 6>We see the little gray ones. They are about four

3003
02:29:42.159 --> 02:29:44.319
<v Speaker 6>and a half feet tall. And we see the ones

3004
02:29:44.319 --> 02:29:46.840
<v Speaker 6>that are called the Nordics. They're about seven feet tall,

3005
02:29:46.840 --> 02:29:50.360
<v Speaker 6>look like us, but they're invariably blonde hair and blue eyed.

3006
02:29:50.680 --> 02:29:52.760
<v Speaker 6>They're one of the species that we have on ice

3007
02:29:53.920 --> 02:29:55.399
<v Speaker 6>one of their crashes we recovered.

3008
02:29:55.639 --> 02:29:58.680
<v Speaker 11>Obviously, with different species, they have different motives. I mean,

3009
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:01.239
<v Speaker 11>are there good aliens and bad aliens?

3010
02:30:01.520 --> 02:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Want?

3011
02:30:01.719 --> 02:30:04.159
<v Speaker 6>You know bad aliens in all kinds of ways and

3012
02:30:04.200 --> 02:30:05.879
<v Speaker 6>reasons for interacting with us?

3013
02:30:06.479 --> 02:30:08.760
<v Speaker 4>And what are some of the reasons why would they.

3014
02:30:08.680 --> 02:30:14.760
<v Speaker 6>Be genetic experiments trying to you know, there's a misconception here.

3015
02:30:14.799 --> 02:30:18.719
<v Speaker 6>People think that our space brothers would bring us, you know,

3016
02:30:19.079 --> 02:30:22.040
<v Speaker 6>good things and teach us how to get rid of

3017
02:30:22.120 --> 02:30:24.639
<v Speaker 6>all our diseases. And you know, if you get to

3018
02:30:24.760 --> 02:30:26.520
<v Speaker 6>if you stop and think about it, that may not

3019
02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:31.600
<v Speaker 6>be the best thing. Because if you a society without

3020
02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:34.399
<v Speaker 6>any disease and everybody starts living one hundred and fifty years,

3021
02:30:34.639 --> 02:30:35.360
<v Speaker 6>that creates a.

3022
02:30:35.360 --> 02:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Lot of problems. I will say that is a very

3023
02:30:40.200 --> 02:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>unpopular hot take by our boy John Lear on that one. Well,

3024
02:30:45.399 --> 02:30:47.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, if people live too long, that may not

3025
02:30:47.239 --> 02:30:49.479
<v Speaker 1>be a good thing. Like, bro, that's that's not a

3026
02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:52.639
<v Speaker 1>thing you want to be saying like you're saying it's

3027
02:30:52.680 --> 02:30:54.959
<v Speaker 1>a good thing that people die. And I understand where

3028
02:30:55.000 --> 02:30:58.959
<v Speaker 1>you're coming from. But also, you know, maybe don't sound

3029
02:30:59.000 --> 02:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in such a dickhead about I.

3030
02:31:01.280 --> 02:31:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Mean, yeah, I get to kind of sound like a

3031
02:31:02.639 --> 02:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>dick about it. But I will say though that with

3032
02:31:04.680 --> 02:31:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the technology that they're pushing forward right now to potentially

3033
02:31:08.639 --> 02:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>put your I guess, consciousness, soul, whatever you want to

3034
02:31:13.040 --> 02:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>call it into something to be able to transfer into

3035
02:31:17.639 --> 02:31:22.239
<v Speaker 2>another host body or whatever, and moving forward. I mean, yeah,

3036
02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:24.639
<v Speaker 2>people are potentially going to look in this whole age

3037
02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>reversal situation with the guy, and there's a lot of

3038
02:31:27.360 --> 02:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>different technology happening to bring down to like the actual

3039
02:31:30.959 --> 02:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>cellular level of age reversal, which, by the way, if

3040
02:31:34.360 --> 02:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you ever watch his whole thing, he actually goes into detail,

3041
02:31:38.280 --> 02:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>like the people that are doing the technology on how

3042
02:31:40.680 --> 02:31:45.879
<v Speaker 2>to reverse each cell itself. So I mean, yeah, you

3043
02:31:45.920 --> 02:31:48.959
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want people to survive longer, because if you want

3044
02:31:48.959 --> 02:31:52.159
<v Speaker 2>to take over, you're gonna want these people to die faster. E.

3045
02:31:52.319 --> 02:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's created by aliens.

3046
02:31:55.120 --> 02:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>The McDonald's and the different plagues I E. COVID. Right,

3047
02:31:58.879 --> 02:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole list of reasons why they want the

3048
02:32:00.959 --> 02:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>world's population to decrease. And I hear what he's saying again,

3049
02:32:04.239 --> 02:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it though, right, like to say that, oh,

3050
02:32:08.559 --> 02:32:10.399
<v Speaker 1>everybody thinks the aliens are coming to help us, but

3051
02:32:10.520 --> 02:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like that's not necessarily a good thing. And it's like,

3052
02:32:12.719 --> 02:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you mean that they're actually not doing that, But I

3053
02:32:17.120 --> 02:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>cut in. Let's continue with his statement.

3054
02:32:19.239 --> 02:32:22.040
<v Speaker 6>Here, they would not meddle in that in that way.

3055
02:32:22.239 --> 02:32:26.959
<v Speaker 11>You believe in part that the movies et Close Encounters

3056
02:32:27.000 --> 02:32:30.559
<v Speaker 11>of the Third kind were not entirely just the creative

3057
02:32:30.639 --> 02:32:33.559
<v Speaker 11>products of some Hollywood director that maybe there's more to that.

3058
02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:34.799
<v Speaker 4>Why don't you explain.

3059
02:32:34.559 --> 02:32:39.399
<v Speaker 6>They were carefully guided by representatives from MJ twelve, who

3060
02:32:39.479 --> 02:32:42.159
<v Speaker 6>is this organization that is in charge of the cover up,

3061
02:32:42.520 --> 02:32:45.319
<v Speaker 6>in order to get us ready for the release of

3062
02:32:45.399 --> 02:32:49.399
<v Speaker 6>the information that there are indeed aliens, and in both

3063
02:32:49.440 --> 02:32:54.000
<v Speaker 6>those movies they used small little creatures and in order

3064
02:32:54.040 --> 02:32:57.000
<v Speaker 6>to get us ready for this release of information.

3065
02:32:57.000 --> 02:32:59.479
<v Speaker 11>To prepare us that the idea of the benevolent aliens

3066
02:32:59.520 --> 02:33:01.079
<v Speaker 11>from outers are going to help us out.

3067
02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:06.680
<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately, they're not so benevolent, So they made probably one

3068
02:33:06.719 --> 02:33:10.920
<v Speaker 6>of the most disastrous mistakes when ET was put out

3069
02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:14.639
<v Speaker 6>at that time was before we discovered what I call

3070
02:33:14.760 --> 02:33:19.040
<v Speaker 6>the double cross or the Grand deception, and they were

3071
02:33:19.079 --> 02:33:22.280
<v Speaker 6>trying to get us used to the benevolent little creatures.

3072
02:33:22.639 --> 02:33:23.719
<v Speaker 6>But that isn't the case.

3073
02:33:24.159 --> 02:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Why don't you take a couple of minutes.

3074
02:33:25.639 --> 02:33:28.520
<v Speaker 11>Now, you've done as much research on UFOs as just

3075
02:33:28.559 --> 02:33:30.799
<v Speaker 11>about anyone, Adam.

3076
02:33:30.479 --> 02:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Now real quick, I do want to make a mention

3077
02:33:32.000 --> 02:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of this. You do notice that there was a hard

3078
02:33:34.760 --> 02:33:38.639
<v Speaker 1>shift as far as alien movies are concerned. Right, there's

3079
02:33:38.680 --> 02:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the old black and white Day the Earth Stood Still,

3080
02:33:41.040 --> 02:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and it was seen as creepy, but it wasn't necessarily

3081
02:33:44.319 --> 02:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a horror movie. It was in the realm of like

3082
02:33:46.239 --> 02:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>edgy sci fi cut to et experience of the third kind,

3083
02:33:52.520 --> 02:33:55.879
<v Speaker 1>these types of movies where they made aliens seem not scary,

3084
02:33:56.239 --> 02:33:59.479
<v Speaker 1>here to help, maybe benevolent, whatever the case of b

3085
02:34:00.239 --> 02:34:03.239
<v Speaker 1>And then immediately after that there was a hard switch

3086
02:34:03.280 --> 02:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>where all these alien movies were put out where the

3087
02:34:05.440 --> 02:34:07.479
<v Speaker 1>aliens were terrifying and they were trying to take over

3088
02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the Earth and they were doing all this horrible shit.

3089
02:34:10.319 --> 02:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>And now we're in this weird place where kind of

3090
02:34:12.879 --> 02:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of both is what's being played in

3091
02:34:15.399 --> 02:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the regular movies that come out about aliens.

3092
02:34:17.600 --> 02:34:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's good and bad. I mean more or less

3093
02:34:19.799 --> 02:34:23.559
<v Speaker 2>looks like AI is our best friend. That's where they're

3094
02:34:23.600 --> 02:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>really pushing. But there definitely is a gambit though when

3095
02:34:27.440 --> 02:34:29.520
<v Speaker 2>it comes to aliens. It can be good, it can

3096
02:34:29.559 --> 02:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>be bad, it can be all in between. I've watched

3097
02:34:32.920 --> 02:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different alien movies throughout the years, so

3098
02:34:35.440 --> 02:34:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's one of those things of you know,

3099
02:34:39.639 --> 02:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>depends on the narrative of the year, the flavor of

3100
02:34:42.360 --> 02:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the year when it comes to what narrative they want to.

3101
02:34:45.639 --> 02:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Push forslutely absolutely, all right, let's.

3102
02:34:48.399 --> 02:34:50.879
<v Speaker 4>Continue imagine that. If you haven't done it, you know

3103
02:34:50.920 --> 02:34:53.520
<v Speaker 4>people who have. Where did it all start? Then?

3104
02:34:54.239 --> 02:34:56.959
<v Speaker 11>How have we put this picture together of where they

3105
02:34:56.959 --> 02:34:58.200
<v Speaker 11>came from and why they're here?

3106
02:34:58.639 --> 02:35:01.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, the whole thing started. And July second, nineteen forty seven,

3107
02:35:01.680 --> 02:35:04.840
<v Speaker 6>that was the first crash, first crash of alien of

3108
02:35:04.879 --> 02:35:08.639
<v Speaker 6>an alien spaceship. July six is when they recovered it

3109
02:35:08.719 --> 02:35:11.319
<v Speaker 6>and sent it to Wright Patterson Air Force Base. July

3110
02:35:11.479 --> 02:35:14.559
<v Speaker 6>seventh is when they held the press conference and told

3111
02:35:14.559 --> 02:35:16.760
<v Speaker 6>the people it was a weather balloon, which the press

3112
02:35:16.799 --> 02:35:20.840
<v Speaker 6>bought bookline and sinker. September of that year, President Truman

3113
02:35:20.920 --> 02:35:24.360
<v Speaker 6>established m J twelve and the purpose of that was

3114
02:35:24.440 --> 02:35:29.120
<v Speaker 6>to study the saucers and cover up the existence of UFO.

3115
02:35:29.239 --> 02:35:32.600
<v Speaker 4>And you say, we recovered alien bodies from that incident.

3116
02:35:32.360 --> 02:35:34.719
<v Speaker 6>Four from that particular crash, Yes, And what did they

3117
02:35:34.719 --> 02:35:39.239
<v Speaker 6>do with them? They autopsied them. Doctor Detlov Bronc was

3118
02:35:39.319 --> 02:35:43.399
<v Speaker 6>the chief surgeon, so to speak. He was the one

3119
02:35:43.399 --> 02:35:48.520
<v Speaker 6>that named him. Eb S stands for extraterrestrial biological entities,

3120
02:35:49.520 --> 02:35:55.239
<v Speaker 6>and we captured three live EBS. They were numbered in

3121
02:35:55.280 --> 02:35:58.200
<v Speaker 6>their order of capture eb E one, eb E two,

3122
02:35:58.280 --> 02:35:59.159
<v Speaker 6>and eb E three.

3123
02:35:59.200 --> 02:36:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Where did we capture? Where did this happen?

3124
02:36:02.159 --> 02:36:04.760
<v Speaker 6>In different crashes? Eb E one lived with an Air

3125
02:36:04.799 --> 02:36:08.959
<v Speaker 6>Force kernel between nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty two.

3126
02:36:09.120 --> 02:36:12.760
<v Speaker 6>The ebees are kept in electromagnetic facility called a y

3127
02:36:12.799 --> 02:36:16.959
<v Speaker 6>wy Dash two. It was designed by a doctor Eric Wang,

3128
02:36:17.000 --> 02:36:19.920
<v Speaker 6>who worked directly for doctor Kissinger, who has been in

3129
02:36:19.920 --> 02:36:22.440
<v Speaker 6>this cover up since the very beginning. The reason they

3130
02:36:22.440 --> 02:36:25.799
<v Speaker 6>had to create electromagnetic facility is the fact that the

3131
02:36:25.840 --> 02:36:29.479
<v Speaker 6>ebes are so advanced. They're at least a half a

3132
02:36:29.520 --> 02:36:32.479
<v Speaker 6>billion years advanced from us and probably more.

3133
02:36:32.760 --> 02:36:35.879
<v Speaker 4>They can move by thought, move by thought.

3134
02:36:35.680 --> 02:36:38.319
<v Speaker 6>Thought, and they can also disappear, but they can't move

3135
02:36:38.360 --> 02:36:41.840
<v Speaker 6>by thought through electromatagnetic facility. So they built this facility.

3136
02:36:42.200 --> 02:36:45.000
<v Speaker 6>There was two, one in Los Alamos and one either

3137
02:36:45.000 --> 02:36:46.280
<v Speaker 6>at Edwards or up at the.

3138
02:36:46.200 --> 02:36:48.319
<v Speaker 4>Test site a Groom Lake, Nevada, a Groom Lake.

3139
02:36:48.399 --> 02:36:52.520
<v Speaker 6>Now there's still one ebe still living, eb E three,

3140
02:36:52.959 --> 02:36:54.760
<v Speaker 6>And there is a videotape that eventually is going to

3141
02:36:54.799 --> 02:36:57.239
<v Speaker 6>be released to the public, and it's an interview with him.

3142
02:36:57.360 --> 02:37:00.280
<v Speaker 6>As hard as that may sound, as hard as that

3143
02:37:00.399 --> 02:37:02.520
<v Speaker 6>may be to believe there is a videotape of an

3144
02:37:02.559 --> 02:37:03.719
<v Speaker 6>interview with EV three.

3145
02:37:04.040 --> 02:37:06.159
<v Speaker 4>What is this language that the interviewers.

3146
02:37:06.319 --> 02:37:08.559
<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen the tape, so I don't know. But

3147
02:37:09.239 --> 02:37:11.479
<v Speaker 6>on this trip I told you I took gathering all

3148
02:37:11.479 --> 02:37:15.799
<v Speaker 6>this information. A guy in Albuquerque handed me twenty five

3149
02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:19.639
<v Speaker 6>secret Cie memos. And if anything can be humorous in

3150
02:37:19.680 --> 02:37:22.319
<v Speaker 6>all of this, one of these memos in the body

3151
02:37:22.360 --> 02:37:26.440
<v Speaker 6>of the text it said, by the way Eve three

3152
02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:29.360
<v Speaker 6>wants to see the ocean, we better make the arrangements

3153
02:37:29.440 --> 02:37:32.520
<v Speaker 6>or he'll disappear again. So while he couldn't get out

3154
02:37:32.520 --> 02:37:36.399
<v Speaker 6>of this facility, he could make himself disappear and cause

3155
02:37:36.440 --> 02:37:37.239
<v Speaker 6>him a lot of trouble.

3156
02:37:38.000 --> 02:37:41.200
<v Speaker 11>They now, can they exist among us? Is that what

3157
02:37:41.239 --> 02:37:43.200
<v Speaker 11>you're saying? Or do they have to have a special.

3158
02:37:42.959 --> 02:37:45.920
<v Speaker 6>Environment of special environment, special era. It's my understanding they

3159
02:37:45.920 --> 02:37:47.879
<v Speaker 6>can only last about twenty minutes in this era.

3160
02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:50.280
<v Speaker 11>You were saying, also, these gray ones are the ones

3161
02:37:50.280 --> 02:37:52.079
<v Speaker 11>that we see most of the time, and you said

3162
02:37:52.079 --> 02:37:54.840
<v Speaker 11>that most of that there are a lot of different.

3163
02:37:54.479 --> 02:37:56.959
<v Speaker 4>Motives for them being here, the gray ones. What kind

3164
02:37:57.000 --> 02:37:58.479
<v Speaker 4>of a deal we got we're going with them?

3165
02:37:59.079 --> 02:38:01.440
<v Speaker 11>Is that the bunch that you suggest we've made a

3166
02:38:01.479 --> 02:38:03.360
<v Speaker 11>deal with for military technology.

3167
02:38:03.399 --> 02:38:05.799
<v Speaker 6>I think we made a deal with them, and they're

3168
02:38:05.920 --> 02:38:08.159
<v Speaker 6>ultimate to What they want to do is regenerate their

3169
02:38:08.159 --> 02:38:12.239
<v Speaker 6>own race. Now apparently they're either they've either had some

3170
02:38:12.319 --> 02:38:15.120
<v Speaker 6>kind of nuclear accident or they're on the back side

3171
02:38:15.760 --> 02:38:20.120
<v Speaker 6>of a evolutionary genetic curve and they're going downhill instead

3172
02:38:20.120 --> 02:38:22.520
<v Speaker 6>of uphill. In other words, in the autopsies of which

3173
02:38:22.559 --> 02:38:25.760
<v Speaker 6>I have too, we found out that their digestive system

3174
02:38:25.879 --> 02:38:29.000
<v Speaker 6>is atrophied. They don't they can't eat through their mouth anymore.

3175
02:38:29.040 --> 02:38:32.600
<v Speaker 6>You know how they eat well, these cattle mulations. They

3176
02:38:32.600 --> 02:38:35.760
<v Speaker 6>take the hormones and the enzymes from those cattle and

3177
02:38:35.799 --> 02:38:38.639
<v Speaker 6>they spread it on their skin, and their skin absorbs

3178
02:38:38.680 --> 02:38:41.760
<v Speaker 6>the nutrients and then excretes the waste back through their skin.

3179
02:38:42.200 --> 02:38:44.920
<v Speaker 6>And if you read Whitley Strieber's book or listen to

3180
02:38:44.959 --> 02:38:49.079
<v Speaker 6>him talk, he talks about when he's seen him doing

3181
02:38:49.120 --> 02:38:51.920
<v Speaker 6>this to their skin and they're scraping the waist off.

3182
02:38:52.000 --> 02:38:54.360
<v Speaker 11>Now, these cattle mutilations, there's been a film made about that,

3183
02:38:54.399 --> 02:38:55.920
<v Speaker 11>and perhaps in a couple of minutes we can take

3184
02:38:55.920 --> 02:38:57.479
<v Speaker 11>a look at at some excerpts of that.

3185
02:38:57.680 --> 02:39:01.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, strange harvest was a good one. But another thing

3186
02:39:01.520 --> 02:39:04.559
<v Speaker 6>had happened here. On March fourth, there was a documentary

3187
02:39:04.840 --> 02:39:08.000
<v Speaker 6>released on the best UFO photos that have been taken

3188
02:39:08.040 --> 02:39:11.520
<v Speaker 6>so far, including a minute and thirty eight seconds of videotape.

3189
02:39:12.079 --> 02:39:16.200
<v Speaker 6>Now what happened is in November, this guy took these photos,

3190
02:39:16.680 --> 02:39:19.639
<v Speaker 6>took it into the TV station. They thought it was great,

3191
02:39:19.680 --> 02:39:22.079
<v Speaker 6>but nobody would believe it. So they spent three months

3192
02:39:23.159 --> 02:39:29.639
<v Speaker 6>checking the validity of the checking the authenticating the videotape,

3193
02:39:29.719 --> 02:39:32.079
<v Speaker 6>and checking out the credibility of the witness. And when

3194
02:39:32.120 --> 02:39:34.159
<v Speaker 6>they had it all down, they put out this documentary

3195
02:39:34.200 --> 02:39:37.280
<v Speaker 6>thirty minutes. I mean, Sirron Clad, they're here. But do

3196
02:39:37.319 --> 02:39:39.520
<v Speaker 6>you think it got on the network? No, it just

3197
02:39:39.600 --> 02:39:40.799
<v Speaker 6>showed locally in Pensacole.

3198
02:39:40.959 --> 02:39:42.559
<v Speaker 4>We have some of that and perhaps when we come

3199
02:39:42.600 --> 02:39:43.079
<v Speaker 4>back we can.

3200
02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So now hearing from your boy, doctor Lear Raven Lee,

3201
02:39:51.959 --> 02:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on those things that he just said.

3202
02:39:55.079 --> 02:39:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Some people call him an absolute quack, some people say

3203
02:39:57.879 --> 02:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he is an absolute source.

3204
02:40:00.879 --> 02:40:04.879
<v Speaker 2>I think that he has a presence that is very

3205
02:40:04.920 --> 02:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>constructed to be very confident in dominating. And this is

3206
02:40:10.399 --> 02:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>what I believe to be factually true to where people

3207
02:40:14.120 --> 02:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>will follow lead and not really ask a lot of questions.

3208
02:40:17.920 --> 02:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I found it interesting some of the things that he

3209
02:40:19.680 --> 02:40:24.799
<v Speaker 2>was saying, though. If they did have these three particular aliens,

3210
02:40:25.000 --> 02:40:29.559
<v Speaker 2>how do they know of all the things, that electromagnetic

3211
02:40:29.680 --> 02:40:32.159
<v Speaker 2>would be the one thing they couldn't pass through? Did

3212
02:40:32.200 --> 02:40:35.399
<v Speaker 2>one of them give up the information? What language are

3213
02:40:35.399 --> 02:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>they speaking? Do they have like a transmitter that can

3214
02:40:37.840 --> 02:40:39.040
<v Speaker 2>like speak to.

3215
02:40:38.959 --> 02:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Us apparently telegraphically?

3216
02:40:41.479 --> 02:40:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if they're moving through thought, then how would

3217
02:40:46.360 --> 02:40:50.319
<v Speaker 2>we capture them unless they wanted to be captured, Because

3218
02:40:50.319 --> 02:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>if they're moving that quickly and that easily, yeah, I

3219
02:40:54.239 --> 02:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>don't see how we could develop something or know something

3220
02:40:58.440 --> 02:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so quickly to be able to capture not one, but

3221
02:41:00.760 --> 02:41:04.879
<v Speaker 2>three of these things, so and hold them in facilities And.

3222
02:41:04.840 --> 02:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>So apparently off of the first four from the Roswell crash,

3223
02:41:08.920 --> 02:41:11.479
<v Speaker 1>we did autopsies on them. And I don't know this

3224
02:41:11.559 --> 02:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a fact. This is not Jacob speaking as

3225
02:41:13.319 --> 02:41:14.879
<v Speaker 1>some sort of an authority on this. This is what

3226
02:41:14.959 --> 02:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been with all the research that I've done being

3227
02:41:17.959 --> 02:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a professional conspiracy theorist for years now. This is about

3228
02:41:21.399 --> 02:41:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the chain of events. We did autopsies on these corpses

3229
02:41:25.399 --> 02:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>and learned a whole hell of a lot about them

3230
02:41:27.920 --> 02:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>on a physical level. When these three individual crashes took

3231
02:41:32.200 --> 02:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>place and we got them in this regard, we knew

3232
02:41:35.399 --> 02:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that at least.

3233
02:41:37.559 --> 02:41:40.200
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean since they're dead, so you wouldn't know

3234
02:41:40.239 --> 02:41:41.959
<v Speaker 2>that they could telepathically move.

3235
02:41:42.600 --> 02:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>No, but apparently they started communicating with the people that

3236
02:41:45.879 --> 02:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>found them through telepathic means, and that's how they were

3237
02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>able to save their lives because apparently they can only

3238
02:41:50.600 --> 02:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>exist in our air for like twenty minutes. So they

3239
02:41:52.920 --> 02:41:54.879
<v Speaker 1>were told, we need to be put in this environment.

3240
02:41:54.959 --> 02:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You need to get to this quick or we'll die

3241
02:41:57.040 --> 02:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case was. And thankfully they were.

3242
02:42:00.760 --> 02:42:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Like a venom situation, Like, yeah.

3243
02:42:03.600 --> 02:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Think of whenever his spacesuit opened now and he's like,

3244
02:42:08.760 --> 02:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the air is breathable? What these aliens when they landed here.

3245
02:42:12.479 --> 02:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Apparently our oxygen rich environment is not breatheable for them.

3246
02:42:17.079 --> 02:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it. I'm sorry, I just don't.

3247
02:42:19.280 --> 02:42:23.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that they would willingly throw themselves at

3248
02:42:24.319 --> 02:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>the creatures. I mean, the one thing that they know

3249
02:42:26.520 --> 02:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>have to know is that they're going to be experimented on,

3250
02:42:29.559 --> 02:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>so they're not gonna I just don't see it, like

3251
02:42:32.040 --> 02:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that would be being like a pow and being like

3252
02:42:34.639 --> 02:42:37.479
<v Speaker 2>you know what, hey, I'm right here, like, just come

3253
02:42:37.520 --> 02:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>get me and torture me, and hopefully I will just

3254
02:42:41.200 --> 02:42:43.079
<v Speaker 2>share all of our secrets of the universe with you.

3255
02:42:44.319 --> 02:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

3256
02:42:45.959 --> 02:42:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't see that that do some Stockholm syndrome shit.

3257
02:42:49.760 --> 02:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But I but they're coming here, yeah, and then crashing,

3258
02:42:53.559 --> 02:42:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I just do I don't believe it, genuinely don't. And

3259
02:42:57.040 --> 02:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that they held them and if they

3260
02:42:59.680 --> 02:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>were telepathically able to move, I don't think that they

3261
02:43:04.479 --> 02:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>would just chill and be like, you know what, I'm

3262
02:43:07.360 --> 02:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>just gonna hang out in this torture area and like

3263
02:43:09.840 --> 02:43:11.120
<v Speaker 2>hope for the best.

3264
02:43:11.639 --> 02:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And would they need to be torture because they already

3265
02:43:13.959 --> 02:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>knew what the anatomy of them looked like, all of

3266
02:43:15.719 --> 02:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the four corpses at this point, they might keep them alive.

3267
02:43:18.680 --> 02:43:21.159
<v Speaker 2>So this is one of the seventy that he's claiming,

3268
02:43:21.200 --> 02:43:24.799
<v Speaker 2>so that they for sure were the exact scene.

3269
02:43:24.680 --> 02:43:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Once allegedly the same species, all allegedly super allegedly. But

3270
02:43:31.000 --> 02:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>apparently these ebes as he called them, told them a

3271
02:43:35.440 --> 02:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of things about the world outside of our Earth,

3272
02:43:38.719 --> 02:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and apparently there's at least seventy that they know of,

3273
02:43:41.840 --> 02:43:44.079
<v Speaker 1>or have contact with, or whatever the case is.

3274
02:43:44.159 --> 02:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>And I don't believe him. You don't believe him, No, damn,

3275
02:43:47.319 --> 02:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe him. I don't believe in the way

3276
02:43:49.319 --> 02:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>because his the way that he presented, in the mannerisms

3277
02:43:52.959 --> 02:43:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and way he the way that he was presenting, reminds

3278
02:43:55.600 --> 02:43:58.159
<v Speaker 2>me a lot of the experiments. So they did to

3279
02:43:58.440 --> 02:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>see what people would believe. If you hold a title,

3280
02:44:02.159 --> 02:44:04.760
<v Speaker 2>if you're wearing a jacket, you know, how you're presenting

3281
02:44:04.799 --> 02:44:07.680
<v Speaker 2>information to people. I just don't believe it. I think

3282
02:44:07.719 --> 02:44:09.559
<v Speaker 2>that maybe there is a kernel of truth to some

3283
02:44:09.559 --> 02:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that you're saying. I think that some

3284
02:44:11.479 --> 02:44:13.680
<v Speaker 2>of it, though, is fabricated, because it doesn't make sense

3285
02:44:13.680 --> 02:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to me how these things would be. If I was

3286
02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:21.319
<v Speaker 2>an alien race, I would not want to get myself captured.

3287
02:44:21.479 --> 02:44:23.879
<v Speaker 2>I would not willingly give myself up to people that

3288
02:44:23.920 --> 02:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>you know experimented likely on your brethren, I guess, and

3289
02:44:29.959 --> 02:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>just forthright give this information over that could potentially be

3290
02:44:33.399 --> 02:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>used against you and your entire race at a later time.

3291
02:44:37.120 --> 02:44:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Why would they do that? How would you hold them

3292
02:44:39.440 --> 02:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>in this facility? How would you understand? Because if they're

3293
02:44:42.159 --> 02:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>all dead corpses. You would not know that they could

3294
02:44:46.040 --> 02:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>be held in this type of facility unless it's something

3295
02:44:49.280 --> 02:44:56.399
<v Speaker 2>within their blood themselves. Maybe if it interacted enough to magnetism,

3296
02:44:56.479 --> 02:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe they could they could figure that out. But of

3297
02:44:59.239 --> 02:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>all the different things, it's like, I don't know. It

3298
02:45:01.360 --> 02:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't make I don't believe him. I'm not gonna

3299
02:45:03.680 --> 02:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>lie there.

3300
02:45:04.760 --> 02:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You have a good cult remembers. Now as far okay,

3301
02:45:06.879 --> 02:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>aside from Lear's testimony, the nineteen sixty four experiment with

3302
02:45:11.680 --> 02:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the flying saucer and the beams of light, what's your

3303
02:45:14.159 --> 02:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>take on that.

3304
02:45:16.040 --> 02:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I do believe that something occurred. Yeah, I don't. I

3305
02:45:20.600 --> 02:45:23.799
<v Speaker 2>would like to see the footage. Say, honestly, I would

3306
02:45:23.840 --> 02:45:26.479
<v Speaker 2>like to see if there was more than one person

3307
02:45:27.079 --> 02:45:30.159
<v Speaker 2>testimony to that day, because in the video or the

3308
02:45:30.159 --> 02:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>picture you saw in the video, there was multiple people.

3309
02:45:33.079 --> 02:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I would want to see. I want all of those

3310
02:45:35.440 --> 02:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>people to tell me the exact kind of story.

3311
02:45:38.319 --> 02:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>If nothing else, the fact that the Air Force tried

3312
02:45:40.319 --> 02:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to cover it up and say he never served and

3313
02:45:42.079 --> 02:45:43.959
<v Speaker 1>then he had to prove his point like that much

3314
02:45:44.079 --> 02:45:45.639
<v Speaker 1>is true. So at least there is some sort of

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02:45:45.639 --> 02:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a cover up that did take place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of one hundred percent. I believe that there is

3317
02:45:48.920 --> 02:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>something definitely that went on, and I believe that something

3318
02:45:51.760 --> 02:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>UFO related happened. I don't It's not that I don't

3319
02:45:56.680 --> 02:45:58.319
<v Speaker 2>believe him. I mean, I would just like to see

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02:45:58.319 --> 02:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>it physically for myself. But I believe that something definitely

3321
02:46:01.239 --> 02:46:04.319
<v Speaker 2>did happen, especially that they went to such great lengths

3322
02:46:04.680 --> 02:46:07.959
<v Speaker 2>to say that he didn't even exist, that none of

3323
02:46:07.959 --> 02:46:10.559
<v Speaker 2>it existed, that none of it happened, and there's video

3324
02:46:10.680 --> 02:46:14.159
<v Speaker 2>proof and photos and obviously he existed, and he has

3325
02:46:14.239 --> 02:46:17.399
<v Speaker 2>documentation that he was in the military and everything else.

3326
02:46:17.920 --> 02:46:20.319
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't do that unless they're trying to cover something up.

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02:46:20.360 --> 02:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>So I believe that all of these incidents are happening.

3328
02:46:23.559 --> 02:46:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I believe that whatever the fuck is going on should

3329
02:46:26.959 --> 02:46:30.079
<v Speaker 2>be I want to honestly look at how many nuclear

3330
02:46:30.319 --> 02:46:33.399
<v Speaker 2>sites around the world have had some type of issue

3331
02:46:33.719 --> 02:46:36.959
<v Speaker 2>women you do an episode on that one. Honestly, it's

3332
02:46:37.040 --> 02:46:39.479
<v Speaker 2>just triggering, like all these different thought patterns of like

3333
02:46:39.559 --> 02:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>can you track them? Can you triangulate how many times

3334
02:46:42.799 --> 02:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>through the last hundred years people have had well, not

3335
02:46:45.760 --> 02:46:48.399
<v Speaker 2>one hundred years, in the last fifty years people have

3336
02:46:48.520 --> 02:46:52.239
<v Speaker 2>had some type of issues around these areas, But.

3337
02:46:52.239 --> 02:46:54.959
<v Speaker 1>How many of those events got unreported or thrown so

3338
02:46:55.120 --> 02:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>far under a stack of paperwork that it's just wrapped

3339
02:46:58.440 --> 02:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>up now.

3340
02:46:59.319 --> 02:47:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, true. I mean you'd have to definitely go in

3341
02:47:02.280 --> 02:47:06.959
<v Speaker 2>an online platform that's quote unquote unrestricted to try to

3342
02:47:07.000 --> 02:47:10.120
<v Speaker 2>at least get somewhat information. But then that's so hard

3343
02:47:10.120 --> 02:47:14.079
<v Speaker 2>because everything is. You know, anybody can make up a story, right,

3344
02:47:14.159 --> 02:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Anybody can say that, you know, I saw a bigfoot

3345
02:47:16.360 --> 02:47:17.719
<v Speaker 2>outst my window last night.

3346
02:47:18.200 --> 02:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you could.

3347
02:47:19.440 --> 02:47:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could triple down and be presented like

3348
02:47:23.719 --> 02:47:27.399
<v Speaker 2>this guy just presented where like there's no shadow of doubt,

3349
02:47:27.440 --> 02:47:30.120
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that my inflection is changing. I am

3350
02:47:30.159 --> 02:47:33.559
<v Speaker 2>definitely telling the truth. This is what I believe wholeheartedly.

3351
02:47:33.760 --> 02:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>You need to believe it with me.

3352
02:47:35.559 --> 02:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Now that's so said. What do you think about the

3353
02:47:37.799 --> 02:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three to two thousand and five crazy

3354
02:47:40.520 --> 02:47:43.959
<v Speaker 1>UFO sidings in the cube, the cube that flew over

3355
02:47:44.079 --> 02:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the exact same Air Force or Space Force base.

3356
02:47:47.600 --> 02:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I think there's something there, Yeah, I think that. I

3357
02:47:50.079 --> 02:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>believe that for that much land to be there, and

3358
02:47:53.760 --> 02:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>for that many launch sites to be there, plus having

3359
02:47:57.040 --> 02:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>decades aparts issues in the scene location, and for it

3360
02:48:01.520 --> 02:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to be turned into Space Force location and for Elon

3361
02:48:05.040 --> 02:48:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to have his whole situation there, there's just too many

3362
02:48:09.200 --> 02:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote coincidences for me, and I do believe that

3363
02:48:12.840 --> 02:48:14.399
<v Speaker 2>because that's not the first time we've heard about it

3364
02:48:14.399 --> 02:48:17.479
<v Speaker 2>a cube looking thing, so I believe that there is

3365
02:48:17.559 --> 02:48:19.319
<v Speaker 2>definitely I believe that it happened.

3366
02:48:19.520 --> 02:48:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So yes, so there you have good cult members. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to know what you think about this episode.

3368
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<v Speaker 1>We want to know what you think about these random

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<v Speaker 1>ecitings at the Vanderberg Air Force Base slash Space Force Space.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we go ahead and give all the monologue

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<v Speaker 1>for that, we would like to let you know that if,

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<v Speaker 1>homeboy Wayne Clark would be the one to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>start today the cult members, Like I said, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you. What do you think about Vanderberg?

3385
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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the story from nineteen sixty four,

3386
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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about the story from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three to two thousand and five, what do you

3388
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<v Speaker 1>think about the disclosures that have been going on in

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