WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.120 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:36.079 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:27.760 All right, five o'clock hour here on a Monday afternoon. 4 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.519 Happy Columbus Day to everybody. For those who celebrate. I'm 5 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.640 not really sure what a typical celebration is for Columbus Day. 6 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:36.560 But for those of you that do, in fact, you know, 7 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:40.119 do exactly that, I hope you enjoy yourself. In fact, 8 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.679 I'm curious what kind of party do you throw to 9 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.520 celebrate this big holiday. It's a federal holiday. There aren't 10 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:46.679 many of those out there. There's a lot of other 11 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.640 days that aren't necessarily recognized as you know, a federal holiday. 12 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:52.320 But I feel like they've got a little more, you know, 13 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:58.119 they seem to matter more to people. But today I 14 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.759 went to the zoo with my family because my wife 15 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:02.759 works for a bank, she's she didn't work today, my 16 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:06.040 kids out of school in daycare, and everybody, I'm sure 17 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.120 it seemed like everybody had the same exact idea, let's 18 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:10.200 go to the zoo, because it's maybe that's maybe that's 19 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:12.400 how people celebrate Columbus, Stay John. They go to the 20 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:16.319 Zoo's way to celebrate Columbus Day. It'd be random, but 21 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:18.280 I did not expect it to be as crowded as 22 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:22.120 it was. But chili, I mean, it kind of feels 23 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.040 like evening now, like today's that day we're with the 24 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:26.760 weather being what it was, Like I know it won't 25 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.120 be because we're not there yet, but today felt like 26 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.079 a day outside where when we when we leave here 27 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.280 at six six fifteen, it it's probably gonna be dark, 28 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:34.239 you know what I mean? Like, I know it's not, 29 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.200 but like today we had our first brisk chill here 30 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.200 and it has me excited because I like this time 31 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.120 of year and I like nice chili fall weather, and 32 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.319 that's that's what we got today. I love it too. 33 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:48.680 And it's also campfire season. 34 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.719 Hell yeah, oh it's I don't know what it's going 35 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.599 to be like tonight. Maybe it'll be a little too 36 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:55.000 chilly for people to do it, but like in a 37 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.439 monday's a weird day. But hey, if you're gonna do 38 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.680 a bonfire on a random Monday, do it on Columbus Day, right, 39 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.799 that's your excuse. I'll have like a beer rankings like 40 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:05.079 you do. 41 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.599 But if I did, camp fire beer would be number one. 42 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.599 Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's receiving votes for me, 43 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:13.319 but it's not you know, it's not in my top five, 44 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.080 but it's certainly it's certainly a good one. But what 45 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:17.319 makes it even better is whether like this right, of course, 46 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.840 good stuff, all right, A lot to react to from 47 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:21.360 the weekend, and we've been doing exactly that for the 48 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.039 last couple of hours. For those of you that are 49 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.080 just now joining us. Louisville football avoided a three game 50 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.840 losing streak, which was needed in a major way. They 51 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.360 found a way to win on the road at Virginia 52 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.560 in a game where you know, let's be real, if 53 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.719 they didn't punch that touchdown in late with Jamari Johnson 54 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.680 and they lose, it would have been bad. It would 55 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.159 have been a three game losing streak. It would have 56 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.879 been a much different postgame show than it was. But 57 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.400 you know, can you say you would have been surprised, 58 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.759 I mean, even up to that point before they took 59 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.199 the lead and held on and closed out the victory again, 60 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.280 and that matters. Like, being able to do that was 61 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.599 great for them, especially for their confidence. They needed this 62 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.360 when more than fans did, I mean, this team needed 63 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.039 to remind themselves they can go win football games despite 64 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.400 making mistakes, and they did that, so that's good. But 65 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:07.759 you know, I think it was the same type of 66 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.280 performance to where you found yourself in a spot knowing 67 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.240 that you probably shouldn't be in set spot. Right I 68 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:18.039 think we can look at Virginia and I know results 69 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.280 are all that really matters as far as wins and losses, 70 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.199 and right now these two teams have the same record, 71 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.319 but like, I think Louisville has a lot better players 72 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:27.520 than Virginia at certain positions. That's not to say they're terrible, 73 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.520 but I still feel like it despite a win, it 74 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.400 was still another game where you just should have been 75 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.960 a little bit more disciplined. You should have been, you know, 76 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.879 Dare I say more ready to play? Like people get 77 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:41.520 triggered by that. Like I don't know if it's because 78 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.960 it's they're sensitive to brom criticism or what it is, 79 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.479 but I've gotten pushed back like twice this year when 80 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.719 when I've mentioned that they didn't come ready to play. 81 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.919 And I guess that can mean a variety of different things, 82 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.400 but what I mean when I say that is they 83 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.919 came out and they didn't play well. Hence the reason 84 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.360 they weren't ready, and sometimes you can come ready and 85 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.800 just get steamrolled because you're playing really good teams. That 86 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:02.719 wasn't Virginia. I mean, lowl didn't score point in the 87 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:06.240 first quarter, and on defense, their quarterback was carving us 88 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.439 up on the ground with his legs like every other 89 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:11.879 quarterback seemingly has done this year. So you know, I 90 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.919 feel like they came out kind of looking like a 91 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.639 mess at times, despite also showing that they have a 92 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.240 lot of talent on offense at the skill position players. 93 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:22.360 Tyler Shuck. I think he's really really good and I'm 94 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.519 sad we only get him one year. Isaac Brown one 95 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.120 of the best freshmen in the country, and he got 96 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:29.480 the bulk of the carries and made the most of 97 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.600 it on Saturday. Jacorey Brooks not worried at all about 98 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.800 him being able to perform and make big plays. He's 99 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:38.240 really talented. Colin Lacy, he hasn't proven it as much 100 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:39.879 because of the injuries, but I still think he's a 101 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:43.199 good weapon to have. Jamari Johnson, I wish he got 102 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:44.720 more targets than he did because I think he's got 103 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.800 a chance to be special. So you know, those things 104 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.439 are worth mentioning, and it does, I think at times 105 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.639 make me go one way or the other. Meaning sometimes 106 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:56.920 I look at that and I'm like, Okay, well, hey, 107 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.199 if they can just finally, if they can just somehow 108 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.240 figure out a way to lean some things up, not 109 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.279 have the silly penalties like the Chris Bell penalties, especially 110 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:06.720 the one where he probably should have been thrown out 111 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.519 of the game, a critical hole because you know, your 112 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.560 offensive line just is not that good. In fact, at 113 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.319 times they look bad. I mean, like, if you could, 114 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.319 if you could fix those things, maybe don't run it 115 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.160 up the middle again on fourth and one, like Brom 116 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:22.480 told us he wasn't going to do it anymore, and 117 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:24.279 that he tried it again and it didn't work. Like 118 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.680 when I see that the you've you've got some pretty 119 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.360 good skill position players and you know, guys that I 120 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.800 feel confident in as far as their ability, and then 121 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.519 I say, okay, they can just tighten this up. That 122 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.959 gives me optimism that that that is viewed as a 123 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:41.839 silver lining per se. But then there's also, you know, 124 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:43.680 the other side of it, where it is me being 125 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.879 more real with myself and saying, yeah, all these things 126 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.560 are true as far as the all those players I 127 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.879 just mentioned and and me feeling pretty good about what 128 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:54.279 you have there. But at six games in, you're four 129 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.120 and two and still making avoidable mistakes and playing at 130 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.040 times sloppy football. That's who are Like, that's that's not 131 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:02.759 a fluke, that's not like, hey, we came out, it 132 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:05.560 was a it was a once in a lifetime bad 133 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:07.800 day for us. No, like, that's just that's your identity. 134 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:10.879 And yes, it's fixable, but it isn't as easy to 135 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:12.920 fix as as I thought, because they would have probably 136 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.160 already fixed it. So again, the opportunity against Miami's massive. 137 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.040 Maybe by the time we get closer to kick off, 138 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.560 I'll feel a little more optimistic about them actually going out, 139 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:23.480 going out and winning. I'm not saying that I don't 140 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.040 think they can, but I mean, I'm I'm I'm going 141 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.879 to I'm gonna call it like it is if this 142 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.600 team comes out and they, you know, not play mistake free, 143 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:34.199 because that's not realistic and I'm not asking them to 144 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.279 be perfect. But if you watch this team and you're 145 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.759 real with yourself, you know they're making mistakes and the 146 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.240 coaches are making decisions at times that like, like, what 147 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.360 are you doing like, you can't do that and expect 148 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.839 to be good teams. And I think Notre Dame is 149 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.560 a good team. I think has some music. Good team. 150 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.959 Miami's better than them as far as talent. I mean, yes, 151 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.120 they could have easily had two losses at this point 152 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.879 because they were lucky to get out of the Virginia 153 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.040 Tech game with that victory. And yes, you know, the 154 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.079 potential targeting call that wasn't called helped them. You know, 155 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.439 a no call essentially helped them survive at Cal. But 156 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.920 I also looked at what they did to come back 157 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.959 against Cal, and I know Cal's not great, but like 158 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.319 erasing a deficit like they did that quickly kind of 159 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.160 proves that, you know, maybe they had an off quarter 160 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.120 and off an off half, but like they still got 161 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.800 some really good players. And Miami has had years where 162 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.480 they look like, Okay, maybe the U's not back, because 163 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.040 I think when people say the U being back, I 164 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.040 think that means that they're relevant every year and they're 165 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.519 looking like they're going to be consistently in the mix 166 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.199 to win a championship. That's not realistic. But when they've 167 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:38.959 had moments here and there where they look like, okay, 168 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:42.879 this could be Miami's best teams since win, they've usually underwhelmed. 169 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:44.959 They they won year under Mark Rick, where they won 170 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.120 I think nine games and they won the and they 171 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.000 played in the ACC Championship, but that was like a 172 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.560 one time thing. But other than that, anytime you felt 173 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:53.199 like either it was going to be their year and 174 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:55.439 they came out and just proved us wrong right away, 175 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.759 or you felt like they're four games in and they 176 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.439 looked like they could really be good and then they 177 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.120 crap the best. Like you know, that's happened a lot. 178 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:04.519 If it doesn't happen this year, here's the reason why 179 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.680 cam Ward he's that special. He's a Heisman candidate. He's 180 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.759 one of the best quarterbacks in the country. And you 181 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.519 can go back and do a deep dive on Miami 182 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:13.959 if you want. One of the reasons why they've always 183 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.600 had talent and you always look at their roster, you 184 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.480 look at recruiting rankings and you think, like, man, they 185 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.279 should be good. When's the last time they had a 186 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.399 really good quarterback. When's the less time Miami had a 187 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.279 quarterback that you felt like was a surefire NFL Player's 188 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.120 been a long time, right, they have that guy now? 189 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.920 In cam Ward, and that's the kind of player that 190 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.799 can take you from being a talented team that underachieves, 191 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.799 maybe substantially or maybe slightly. But if you've got an 192 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:41.519 elite quarterback that can, you know, make special plays like 193 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.080 he can, that's where Miami could potentially be a championship 194 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:46.480 caliber team. I don't think they're going to win the 195 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:49.559 whole thing, but like I've seen enough of them to 196 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:51.240 know that if they do play well and beat anybody 197 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.159 left on their schedule, I'm certainly not going to be surprised. 198 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.799 So it's a tall task on Saturday, but it also 199 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.600 presents a huge opportunity, you know, for Louisville, even if 200 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.960 they don't come out looking like they have fixed a 201 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.559 lot of these issues they have with just being undisciplined 202 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.000 at times and committing some penalties that you feel like 203 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:12.120 are easy to avoid. Let's say they minimize that by 204 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.120 sixty percent and yet they're still in a close game 205 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.840 and they find a way to win. That's huge. I mean, look, 206 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.200 if you find a way to win regardless of how 207 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.279 many mistakes you make, I mean, that's what you want 208 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:26.120 is to get a win. So I'm not necessarily confident 209 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.000 that that's what ends up happening. But they're only a 210 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:32.720 four point dog right now, and I don't want to 211 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:35.840 put pressure on him because I'm somebody that truly doesn't 212 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.840 think what happened in previous seasons with different teams and 213 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.080 sometimes different coaches and teams that are now in different conferences. 214 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.440 Like trends are brought up all the time in sports, 215 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.759 and I just am somebody that has never really thought 216 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:51.240 that they matter. But if you are somebody that does 217 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.120 value those in a major way, Jeff thrives in these moments. 218 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.200 Unfortunately for Jeff, right after these kind of moments, he 219 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:00.720 usually lays an egg and loses to a bad team. 220 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.240 That's just and he knows it too. I mean, the 221 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:04.919 reason he brought it up last year, we all knew it, 222 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:06.240 but he's the one who said it before I asked 223 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.799 a question at his press conference after they beat Notre Dame. 224 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.080 He knew that, like that Pittsburgh loss was one that 225 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.120 you know, has happened before, and he was trying to 226 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.240 avoid it and unfortunately he couldn't. So I I mean, 227 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.399 I'm I'm excited to see what Louisville can do in 228 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.320 this big opportunity that they have. It's just I'm not 229 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.159 there yet as far as feeling like, yeah, they're going 230 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:29.360 to come out and just you know, play a great 231 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.399 game of football, because they haven't done that yet. I mean, 232 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.879 and again I'm not asking for perfection. I just want 233 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:38.600 him to be a little bit more polished, a little 234 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.519 bit more in sync. And the communication defensively was better 235 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.799 that Ron English was no longer upstairs, he was down 236 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.080 on the sideline. But I still at times, you know, 237 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.080 they've got guys making good plays. They you know, they 238 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:53.159 only gave up. Was it twenty points to Virginia? I thought, 239 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.679 I thought, is it Corey Thornton that I know he's 240 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.200 a transfer from UCF. And I found myself now, yeah, 241 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.000 it's Corey Thornton who transferred to Louisville from uc HAVE. 242 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:04.080 He played a great game. It was nice to see 243 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.919 Quincy Riley out there again. And he's one of those 244 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.759 guys that even if he's not making a huge play, 245 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.120 he's somebody that the opposing offense is going to be 246 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:13.759 well aware of and it's going to change how they 247 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:15.919 play and what they do because they know how good 248 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.200 he is. Ashton was active, so the defense I think 249 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.960 took steps forward, but I still feel as if there's 250 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.240 plays and maybe this is where I am nitpicking. Maybe 251 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.360 this is me maybe expecting perfection. I don't think that 252 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.039 I am. But sometimes I see the other team make 253 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.480 a play and I don't think like, well, what are 254 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.080 you gonna do? That guy's just good. It's usually like, well, hey, 255 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.200 why were you Why did you take that angle? Why 256 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.879 were you out of position? Oh you got a third down? Stop, No, 257 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.159 you committed a silly penalty. Now they get a reset, 258 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.399 they get a fresh set of downs. Like those things. 259 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:44.559 I still want to see those tightened up. And there's 260 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:46.600 no better time to get those things fixed than now, 261 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.120 because again, a win here would be monumental. A win 262 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.559 here didn't guarantee anything, but it should definitely make this 263 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:57.200 team collectively have some belief in themselves that they may 264 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.960 not have right now. I mean, the human element is real. 265 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.200 These guys know that. Like, they just needed to get 266 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.240 out of there with a win against Virginia because they'd 267 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.879 gone two straight games where you know, they shot themselves 268 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:12.440 in the foot and that resulted in losses. So we'll 269 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.600 see what happens. But maybe as we get closer, I'll 270 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.799 get more confident. But right now, I'm just not there yet. 271 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.639 We haven't talked a whole lot about it, but it 272 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:27.360 was certainly needed on Saturday, meaning Louisville fans myself included, 273 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:30.200 I needed it, and that was to see Kentucky lose Tovandy. 274 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.240 And yes, Bandy's not what they once were, but like 275 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.559 they're still Vandy and they didn't even play great. Like 276 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.919 I did listen to a little bit OFKSR this morning 277 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.519 and I heard Matt mention that when Bama lost to Vandy, 278 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.799 Bandy was going blow for blow with them, like trading 279 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:47.000 shots and matching them, and just like never Bama could 280 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.080 never swing that game in their direction. And that's a 281 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.840 big credit to Vandy. That wasn't what happened on Saturday. 282 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.240 Like Kentucky just you know, they looked like a sloppy 283 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.960 football team that was undisciplined with penalties and made crucial mistakes. 284 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.279 Their defense is really really good, but you know, there's 285 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.519 a really bad performance for Mark Stoops and his team 286 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.399 and like they're right. I mean again, maybe it's just recency, 287 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:13.200 maybe because it's Vandy, but I feel like they're right 288 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.759 back to where they were post South Carolina as far 289 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.919 as like just wondering what are we doing here with 290 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.879 Mark Stoops? You're not going to fire and me you 291 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:21.360 can't afford it. It's too much money. And I'm not 292 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.679 even sure they're fans. Won and fired. But for Stoops 293 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.159 to come off of a bye and once again have 294 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.639 his team not ready to play and it results in 295 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.799 a loss to Vandy at home, I mean, that's like 296 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.759 worst case scenario for him, and that's exactly what played out. 297 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:39.399 We had some people earlier on the text line sort 298 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.320 of you know, asking because there's some level of desperation 299 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:44.879 between a few people. It's really just, you know, I 300 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:46.960 don't say it's two different people in the text line 301 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.799 that when they do text in ninety nine percent of 302 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.039 the time they're going to ask about the uku L game? 303 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.519 What do I think is going to happen? And I 304 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.159 wish I could tell you that, Oh yeah, this gives 305 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.799 me way more confidence in Louis's ability to beat Kentucky 306 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.919 because Vandy did it at Commonwealth. I mean, yeah, it's 307 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.720 another sign that they are in fact a team that 308 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:07.399 if they don't play well, they can lose to teams 309 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.600 even Vandy. But like I'd be a liar if I 310 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.840 told you that I think Kentucky lost to Vandy because 311 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:14.759 they don't have any good players. I wish I could 312 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.440 tell you I think Kentucky stinks and that they got 313 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.240 a bunch of bombs on their roster, but I don't. 314 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.879 I think they've got some good players. Defensively, they're loaded 315 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.559 a receiver, They've got two studs that you know, make 316 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.799 big plays at times but also make bone headed plays 317 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:28.919 at times. I don't know how good vandergriff is, but 318 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:34.120 he's not terrible. You know. Their offensive line has been 319 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.759 you know, solid for him. Despite looking terrible against South Carolina. 320 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.279 Since that game, they've actually played well. So you know, 321 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.000 I don't know what it means for the Louisville Kentucky matchup. 322 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.159 I'm not even really thinking about it just yet, but 323 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.639 Kentucky could have two more losses than they have right now, 324 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:50.679 and at that point, you know you are who you are. 325 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.639 But I still know that when Louisville goes to Lexington 326 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.360 at the end of the year to play them, they're 327 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.080 going to be going up against a team that like 328 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:59.919 has really good players. That it's gonna be there's gonna 329 00:14:59.919 --> 00:15:02.480 be there's going to be some matchups that Louisville is 330 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.559 at a disadvantage at especially upfront, and that's been hard 331 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.840 to overcome for many, many years, and maybe this is 332 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.639 the year they can't overcome it. But we got a 333 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.720 long way before we get there. And when I say 334 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.679 it needed to happen, and it was great to see 335 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.600 them lose to Vandy, it's because it was not fun 336 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.759 to see Rick Patino in Lexington on Friday night, and 337 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.639 we should have known. I mean, I kind of find 338 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.720 myself going back to last Wednesday when I just got 339 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.639 to Charlotte talking about Rick, because he confirmed at that 340 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.240 point he was going to be in for the football game. 341 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.879 And then I'm thinking, Okay, well, yeah, there's no scenario 342 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.120 that he wouldn't be at Big Blue Madness. And then 343 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.159 I thought, but yeah, he'll probably just be like, you know, 344 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.639 in the background. And then I'm like, wait a second. 345 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.159 You're talking about Rick Patino, a guy who has never 346 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.600 missed when it comes to taking advantage of an opportunity 347 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.440 to make something all about him, and that's exactly what 348 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.879 he did. So I think because I started to realize 349 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.480 it before it happened, you know, and I've always known, 350 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.720 and I'll reset my thoughts because I did talk about 351 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:58.799 this at the very beginning of the show. But I 352 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.879 know we've got a new audience here now. But I've 353 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.879 always known Rick like Kentucky better than Louisville. I've always 354 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.440 known that he cherished his time there more so than 355 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.320 he did when he was here, even before he got 356 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:10.679 fired here, Like he loved his time at Kentucky because 357 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.919 it was a magical ride that he had there. He 358 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:15.279 was on top of the world, and he left for 359 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:20.279 the Celtics job, and clearly he I mean, he wishes 360 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.679 he didn't. He wishes he probably was still coaching at Kentucky. 361 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:27.679 So because I'm old enough to have experienced Patino at 362 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.159 both places, despite being really young when he was at Kentucky. 363 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:31.799 But I remember it like I knew he was the 364 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:33.759 coach of the rival, and I knew it was kind 365 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.440 of weird when he came here to Louisville, but I 366 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:37.720 knew he was a great coach, and clearly it worked 367 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.039 out for Louisville. I mean, so I it was the visual, 368 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.480 like the I remember. I mean, this is gonna sound dramatic, 369 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.480 but I'm just being honest with you. Is I'm scrolling 370 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:50.480 through Twitter on Friday night and I saw the first 371 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:53.200 video is from the guy from WHS eleven. I can't 372 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:55.440 think of his name, but he was the first person 373 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.159 I saw that posted a video of Patino there. And 374 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.679 I'm sure there were already pictures elsehere, but like, I'm 375 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.320 not consuming people covering big Blue madness. I mean, that's 376 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.599 I mean, there's no way in hell I would do that, 377 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:12.359 as most louisvill fans wouldn't. But it was Mason Herodesky. 378 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.039 I'm sure I'm not saying that correctly, and I apologize Mason, 379 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.279 but he's with WHS eleven. I'll get with Kent when 380 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.680 he comes on this week and get the proper pronunciation 381 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:22.960 because you know, he works hard and I see his 382 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.680 content and I just don't know how to pronounce his last name. 383 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:31.480 It's h O r O d y s k I Horadesky. 384 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.799 I'm just guessing here. But anyways, he's the one who 385 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.759 posted the video that showed Rick in his Kentucky blue 386 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:39.480 quarter zip. And the visual of that did kind of 387 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.119 like take me back a little bit, because you know, 388 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.640 first thing I thought of was like, wow, I'm not 389 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:48.000 sure I ever thought about seeing that, you know, because 390 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.359 to be fair, I have no problem with him going 391 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:54.200 by and you know, knowing Rick like we know Rick 392 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.319 and knowing how he is, That's what makes this different. 393 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.519 If this was a coach that we just like, it's 394 00:17:58.519 --> 00:17:59.799 just hard for me to believe this was all of 395 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.920 about him honoring his former player, which I think there's 396 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.920 some of it that is that, but it's also Rick 397 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.079 wanting to make it all about Rick. He's always done 398 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.240 that since he's been at both places. That's just his nature. 399 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:10.640 So like, I don't give him the benefit of the 400 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.960 doubt that this is just some wholesome experience where he's 401 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:14.680