Speaker 1: This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: to get to the point where're winning so much? We
Speaker 1: get tired of winning? Another big victory today with enormous,
Speaker 1: enormous ramifications across America, the US Supreme Court once again
Speaker 1: getting it right and ruling in favor of the Great
Speaker 1: State of South Carolina against Planned Parenthood, and the US
Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling, hey yeah, South Carolina. South Carolina doesn't
Speaker 1: want to use taxpayer dollars to kill people. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to. So a real blow there fortunately to Planned Parenthood.
Speaker 1: So I broke down that case a little bit in
Speaker 1: the first hour. I'll get into a few more details
Speaker 1: as we cover a bunch of fun topics this afternoon.
Speaker 1: One thing we do every Thursday at five oh six,
Speaker 1: and I think it's really valuable no matter where you
Speaker 1: are on the abortion policy spectrum. And what I'd suggest is,
Speaker 1: if you're not on the pro life side, get there
Speaker 1: in a hurry, be on the right side of history,
Speaker 1: be on the right side of humanity. But what we
Speaker 1: do is we bring in a medical professional to talk
Speaker 1: about purely medical aspects of this life and death civil
Speaker 1: rights issue of our lifetime. And I think it's just
Speaker 1: so helpful to everyone because there isn't enough of this input.
Speaker 1: There isn't enough of these medical facts in the conversation.
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because once we start
Speaker 1: talking medicine, pro life wins every time and pro abortion
Speaker 1: loses every time. So today we continue with Wendy Smith.
Speaker 1: Wendy is a retired acute care nurse practitioner and Wendy
Speaker 1: works with I think three different anti sex trafficking ministries
Speaker 1: and she's here to talk today about the reality of
Speaker 1: abortion and sex trafficking. Wendy, Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Dan, I appreciate it the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Not many people combine the or picture the relationship between
Speaker 2: abortion and trafficking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know you've written to this as well,
Speaker 1: Please take us into it.
Speaker 2: Sure. So, first of all, for your listeners, both abortion
Speaker 2: and trafficking are very emotionally heavy, dark topics, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure some of your listeners have experienced one or the others.
Speaker 2: So I want to treat this topic with respect and
Speaker 2: gentleness and realize I'm not passing judgment and it may
Speaker 2: trigger some bad experiences, but I'd like your listeners to
Speaker 2: realize that abortion and pregnancy can be the end results
Speaker 2: of the product of an exploitative relationship or abuse, but
Speaker 2: it is also an important tool to keep control under
Speaker 2: their victims. So it can be used either way.
Speaker 1: And can you elaborate on that how it's used as
Speaker 1: a control mechanism.
Speaker 2: Sure, so girls or women that are trafficked, they are
Speaker 2: beaten down, they are controlled. In fact, there's a book
Speaker 2: on Amazon about you can't read several books on Amazon
Speaker 2: about pimping, and they tell how you break down your
Speaker 2: victim and once they're broken down, once they have no
Speaker 2: self value, then you put a price tag on them.
Speaker 2: And when you're talking about women who are girls, I
Speaker 2: deal mainly with miners, so I may use the term
Speaker 2: miners or girls more often. But when you're talking about
Speaker 2: the victims of trafficking who have had abortion or are
Speaker 2: pregnant facing abortion, you're talking about two individuals, two very
Speaker 2: vulnerable individuals. You have the girl that's been viewed, is
Speaker 2: deeply traumatized, emotionally and probably physically, made to feel that
Speaker 2: she has absolutely no value or worse other than to
Speaker 2: be sold, made to feel like a commodity, like no
Speaker 2: one cares. And then then when someone talks to her
Speaker 2: about either a forced abortion or threatens her pregnancy in
Speaker 2: some way, or even wants her to keep the pregnancy.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, there's a specialty in having sex
Speaker 2: with pregnant women, and they tend to abort later in
Speaker 2: their trajectory. But you know, we have to be very
Speaker 2: cautious because of her two victims. And when the girl
Speaker 2: is told that she should have abortion or must have
Speaker 2: an abortion, not only is she dealing with the trauma
Speaker 2: of her expla tation, but to take the life of
Speaker 2: an innocent baby just validates that there is no value
Speaker 2: in her humanity or a baby that she's carrying. Sometimes
Speaker 2: the trafficker will force her to be to have an
Speaker 2: abortion to keep her in the business, in the game,
Speaker 2: and like I said, sometimes they're forced to have a pregnancy.
Speaker 2: Sometimes a pregnancy can be used for control in that
Speaker 2: the trafficker may threaten harm to the baby if she
Speaker 2: doesn't do what she told he may or if she
Speaker 2: doesn't bring in the revenue he expects, he may put
Speaker 2: a price tag on the value of that baby.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Wendy Smith, our guest, and
Speaker 1: she works with multiple anti traffing trafficking ministries. But what
Speaker 1: is the state of sex trafficking in Colorado right now?
Speaker 2: So that's a good question. Colorado currently ranks tenth in
Speaker 2: the nation. We have a lot of trafficking in the
Speaker 2: Denver Boulder Aura. Even for a Colins area, we have
Speaker 2: Interstate twenty five and Interstate seventy, which are mean trafficking routes,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of gang activity and more crime
Speaker 2: concentrated in those areas.
Speaker 1: And Wendy, what form does that take? I mean, so
Speaker 1: people know what to look out for. What are the
Speaker 1: mechanics of that, say, trafficking. I'm sure some people are
Speaker 1: surprised to hear you say Boulder. How do they do it?
Speaker 1: What should we look for?
Speaker 2: Well, that's another good question because often we can mischaracterize
Speaker 2: the victims. You know, girls of and boys that are
Speaker 2: trafficked are often considered labeled as rebellious or delinquents or
Speaker 2: drug addicts. So you have that kind of a picture.
Speaker 2: But also I've worked with girls that or a students
Speaker 2: were in school, were traffic by a peer in school,
Speaker 2: so there may not be a clear picture. Some of
Speaker 2: the signs that might be might be seen like physical
Speaker 2: signs burn marks, bruises, missing teeth, or poor dentician, drug addiction.
Speaker 2: Obviously being with someone that is older or has things
Speaker 2: to have more control over them. They may have money
Speaker 2: or clothes that you know that they normally couldn't have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much trafficking is there of people who are
Speaker 1: either broad here illegally or come here illegally and then
Speaker 1: others take advantage of that to traffic them. How much
Speaker 1: of that is there? You know?
Speaker 2: I wish I could put a number on it. Just
Speaker 2: the nature of the crime, human trafficking, both labor and
Speaker 2: sex trafficking are multi billion dollar criminal enterprise globally, and
Speaker 2: and because of the nature of the crime, we really
Speaker 2: don't have valid numbers. It's hard to determine and they
Speaker 2: often are unseen in our communities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just again the nature of the crime. But WHND,
Speaker 1: You're very grateful for your time today talking about that
Speaker 1: intersection of sex trafficking and abortion and how it's used
Speaker 1: as a control tool over victims, and appreciate your sensitivity
Speaker 1: on that. How do people follow you? Are you on
Speaker 1: social media?
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm I'm volunteer with these anti trafficking organizations.
Speaker 2: I just stepped off the board of one and I
Speaker 2: write some but I'm not on social media.
Speaker 1: Well that's probably very wise, very better not to be followed.
Speaker 1: But wend you appreciate the time today. Thanks for all
Speaker 1: your great work. Okay, you take care that. Okay, bye.
Speaker 1: You know right, we should do we should do a
Speaker 1: whole show at some point on sex trafficking and you
Speaker 1: know how it's done. What to look for all that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. I like when I go into bathrooms
Speaker 1: sometimes now, and you know it's it's always these kind
Speaker 1: of both sex bathrooms, maybe at a hospital or somewhere else, right,
Speaker 1: and they've got a sign on the wall, Hey, if
Speaker 1: you're being sex traffic here's here's what you do to
Speaker 1: get help, and and that sort of thing, because you
Speaker 1: know there's a bunch of it going on. And that
Speaker 1: was always to me one of the right out of
Speaker 1: hell just obscenities of all these lefties supporting the open
Speaker 1: borders right is just knowing that that was the vehicle
Speaker 1: that was the magnet for mass sex trafficking and mass
Speaker 1: sexual abuse of women and girls. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: lefties didn't care about that, they were getting their voters.
Speaker 3: Have you seen Sound of Freedom?
Speaker 1: Jim Cavizl No, I've heard a lot about it.
Speaker 3: I think you will want to watch that on this topic.
Speaker 1: Well, get them on the show to talk about it,
Speaker 1: cavisl Yeah, I see what I can do. Okay, thanks?
Speaker 1: Three or three seven five five. Hey, there's all sorts
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, including the big US Supreme Court
Speaker 1: decision today against planned parenthood, the latest with this anti
Speaker 1: semitic lefty loon in New York who's apparently going to
Speaker 1: be their next governor. Bad news for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Right that more ahead, You're on the Dan Kepler Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1: See that's all she gets every time, you get it,
Speaker 1: every half birthday of the years. No, it's like the
Speaker 1: Bezos wedding because Kelly throws apart. Well, this is her
Speaker 1: birthday and you tell me halfway into the show.
Speaker 3: Not only that she is gone like every other break.
Speaker 3: I think she's got a bladder the size of a piece.
Speaker 3: So she missed that. She missed what I just played.
Speaker 3: It was just for her, And you're right here, we
Speaker 3: are celebrating Kelly and she's not here for her own party.
Speaker 1: You assume it's a personal moment, but she might be
Speaker 1: celebrating somewhere.
Speaker 3: Hopefully she found some s somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, or maybe there's a big sick Kelly. I
Speaker 1: figured it out. Ye's planned a big surprise party for
Speaker 1: you after when you walk her house in that newsroom.
Speaker 3: Okay, estimated get happy birthday by Stevie. Wonder there enough
Speaker 3: to play off the air enough ar now that she's
Speaker 3: finally come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I go three times the licensing fees? Dean
Speaker 1: and Arvada. You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Hey, Hey Dan, good afternoon. I got two foot topics.
Speaker 5: The New York City mayor goofball that they you know,
Speaker 5: in the primary, the neo Nazi, whatever you want to
Speaker 5: call him. You know, I'm at the point where we
Speaker 5: should just left these Democrats get what they won't vote for.
Speaker 5: Let this guy in, let them just destroy the city
Speaker 5: and cout bailing these these blue cities out with you know,
Speaker 5: trying to save them with the national Guard and the
Speaker 5: Marines just you know, let them burn you know, it's
Speaker 5: crazy how we keep saving them. And then the top
Speaker 5: of number two is the lady out in LA that
Speaker 5: says she called out all the gang members say hey,
Speaker 5: you know she's a colorist woman. I believe she's like,
Speaker 5: where are all the eighteen seat gangs? And then some
Speaker 5: other gang, why aren't you standing.
Speaker 2: Up the eyes?
Speaker 1: Isn't that like, uh illegal? Well, good question. I had
Speaker 1: a couple of texts on that, Ryan, can you try
Speaker 1: to find that sound. I'd like to hear her verbatim,
Speaker 1: because when it comes to whether somebody crosses the line
Speaker 1: with political speech into something prosecutable, we really have to
Speaker 1: hear the exact quotes. So good question on that being.
Speaker 1: Listen to the other point that they let them burn
Speaker 1: camp when it comes to New York. Listen, I understand
Speaker 1: the sentiment there, which is where, second, you voters have
Speaker 1: to say the consequences of this. Obviously voter seeing the
Speaker 1: consequences of Obama's you know, policies which many labeled socialistic,
Speaker 1: many of them you know, led to the election of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and a lot of good things for America.
Speaker 1: So I get that. Here here's The only caveat I
Speaker 1: put on that is, is when you're talking about when
Speaker 1: you're talking about crime, when you're talking about real people
Speaker 1: being hurt, and I guess I impressed him real people
Speaker 1: being hurt in ways that cannot be reversed. So you
Speaker 1: get an anti Semitic socialist nutjob like this guy in office,
Speaker 1: and chances are great that some people who would not
Speaker 1: have died with the real mayror will die, some people
Speaker 1: who would not have been raped with the real mayor
Speaker 1: in office will be raped, things like that, so that
Speaker 1: I can just never endorse that as some acceptable casualty rate.
Speaker 1: I understand some things are out of our control, right,
Speaker 1: like whether this guy becomes mayor, which at this point
Speaker 1: he appears to be on track to do. So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just can't wish that on any And then if
Speaker 1: he is as likely elected mayor, then you just have
Speaker 1: to look for the silver linings, right, And the silver
Speaker 1: lining is another good reason for America to vote against Democrats,
Speaker 1: because this guy is kind of already becoming the face
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party in America, and if he does
Speaker 1: become mayor then even more so, and that is tremendous
Speaker 1: news for Republicans. Three or three someone three, eight, two, five,
Speaker 1: five the number. We'll get some texts in here as well.
Speaker 1: This texture refers to a wonderful guest we had at
Speaker 1: the top who works against sex trafficking, and she was
Speaker 1: talking about how sex traffickers use abortion as a tool
Speaker 1: of control against the women that they're having raped and abused.
Speaker 1: So this texter says, thank goodness, the pregnancies of these
Speaker 1: traffic girls are terminated. I can't imagine the hellish life
Speaker 1: those children would have to endure if they were allowed
Speaker 1: to be born. Think about the mentality. Oh, he goes on,
Speaker 1: he takes a couple more shots. I don't want to
Speaker 1: deprive him of is one moment of bitter glee, prolonged mental, physical,
Speaker 1: and sexual abuse of true hell on earth because some
Speaker 1: do gooder Christians decided they must live. So think about
Speaker 1: this texture. Think about this texture. What they've concluded is
Speaker 1: that these children would rather be killed. Right, they've concluded
Speaker 1: that these children who would be born into difficult circumstances
Speaker 1: would rather be killed than be born into those difficult circumstances.
Speaker 1: They don't want to wait and ask the kids, right,
Speaker 1: what do you think those kids would say? How many
Speaker 1: kids right now, born into really terrible circumstances, right, Like
Speaker 1: my wife and daughter do some work south of the border,
Speaker 1: down in some really really poor areas of Mexico. How
Speaker 1: many of those kids in the toughest circumstances do you
Speaker 1: think would say they wish they'd been killed before they
Speaker 1: were born? How many kids here in America, whether they're
Speaker 1: born to a rape survivor or some other just worse circumstance,
Speaker 1: you could imagine, how many of those do you think
Speaker 1: would say, no, I wish I'd been killed?
Speaker 3: Kill me?
Speaker 1: Now, how many do you think would say that? You
Speaker 1: actually have a number, No, I said Tim Tebow.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean he was born to mothers who
Speaker 3: was contemplating an abortion. Oh right, and she chose to have.
Speaker 1: Him, right, and that was for medical reasons, right, But yes, no,
Speaker 1: and thank god she did right literally. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's the thing, And that's why I would love to
Speaker 1: talk to a Texter like that. What would make here
Speaker 1: she think these children would choose to be killed instead,
Speaker 1: because virtually none of them would, probably none of them would,
Speaker 1: But this Texter wants them killed. That's really fascinating to
Speaker 1: me and people who make that argument. It's just so
Speaker 1: easy to see what's really going on. Right, They don't
Speaker 1: have any concern whatsoever for these children?
Speaker 3: Well, Dan they or they wouldn't want them killed. We
Speaker 3: want less of the populations, right, well.
Speaker 1: Justice Ginsburg, Yeah, less of the populations that we don't
Speaker 1: want too many of. That's not my quote, that's Justice
Speaker 1: ginsburg explanation for her understanding of role.
Speaker 3: So there should be a wealth test, is what this
Speaker 3: text is implying that if you're below a certain income
Speaker 3: level or ability to provide, then those babies should die.
Speaker 1: You know, I think these bitter Texters, and you see
Speaker 1: them come from a lot of different demos. I think
Speaker 1: these are people who are so committed to abortion has
Speaker 1: become their holy grail, right, abortion on demand. They're so
Speaker 1: committed to that they've really lost their ability to reason,
Speaker 1: and so they're reduced to arguing that no, these children
Speaker 1: would rather be killed. These children would rather be killed.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a very sad place to be. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: those people aren't the people who are leading America.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, let me put it this way, that sentiment is
Speaker 1: not prevailing in America. America is moving in a very
Speaker 1: decidedly pro life direction, and you're seeing it in lots
Speaker 1: of tangible ways. And I don't mean it to sound
Speaker 1: the kind of phony, condescending way this is about to sound.
Speaker 1: I mean it in my heart. I pray for a
Speaker 1: person like that. Whatever led to it, that they are
Speaker 1: so bitter and twisted, they can't think straight, and they
Speaker 1: really think these children would rather be dead. Not a chance.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: A smiling socialist.
Speaker 6: You call yourself a democratic socialist. The word socialist, of course,
Speaker 6: has been vilified and used to attack you.
Speaker 1: What's the why?
Speaker 6: How do you define being a democratic socialist?
Speaker 7: I think in the words of doctor King, who are Oh.
Speaker 1: My lord, can you imagine where we're going here? I'd
Speaker 1: say doctor King would be rolling over in his grave,
Speaker 1: But my bed is he's in heaven. But listen to
Speaker 1: this obscenity to come.
Speaker 7: Zeko said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
Speaker 7: There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
Speaker 7: of God's children in this country. And it gets to
Speaker 7: the heart of the matter, which is inequality and my
Speaker 7: belief that every New Yorker should have what they need
Speaker 7: to live a dignified life. It shouldn't be something that
Speaker 7: they can be priced out of. And that's why at
Speaker 7: the heart of our campaign is this focus on freezing
Speaker 7: the rent for more than two million rent stabilized tenants,
Speaker 7: making the slowest busses in the country fastest.
Speaker 1: What absolute perversion of doctor King and his teaching. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: Doctor King's a hero because he was willing to give
Speaker 1: his life to combat inequality. But he wanted inequality of
Speaker 1: what all together? Now, he wanted equality of what he
Speaker 1: wanted a quality of opportunity. That's the way he wanted
Speaker 1: to overcome inequality. All he wanted was fair, equal opportunity
Speaker 1: for everyone regards wardless of color. Doctor King said what
Speaker 1: he wanted.
Speaker 3: I have a dream.
Speaker 2: My poor little children.
Speaker 3: Will one day live in a nation where they will
Speaker 3: not be touched by the color of my skin, but
Speaker 3: by the content of that character. I have a dream, yeah,
Speaker 3: doctor King.
Speaker 1: Doctor King did not say his dream that was so
Speaker 1: that his four little girls would live in rent control
Speaker 1: departments or would have food provided by the government through
Speaker 1: government run grocery stores. That was not his dream. That
Speaker 1: was the opposite of his dream. His dream was, and
Speaker 1: he spoke of it, a freedom, a freedom, true equal opportunity,
Speaker 1: the freedom to become what you choose to become. That
Speaker 1: was his dream. Is this. I'll come up with the
Speaker 1: right family word, but this anti semi in New York
Speaker 1: he is I can't say that word either. He is
Speaker 1: perverting doctor King, and that cannot lead good places for anyone,
Speaker 1: particularly him. My goodness. No, it's all about equal opportunity.
Speaker 1: And think about what doctor King was facing, particularly at
Speaker 1: the time when he led this movement. I mean he
Speaker 1: was facing in America where you are technically quote separate,
Speaker 1: but equal evil was no longer legal, but it was
Speaker 1: still happening lots of places in America. And that's what
Speaker 1: he was fighting for, that equal opportunity, this idea of
Speaker 1: guaranteed equal outcome. That that's not only so anti American,
Speaker 1: because obviously a guy like this socialist in New York
Speaker 1: doesn't like America. I mean, he's running to turn this
Speaker 1: into a highly different kind of nation, just like all
Speaker 1: those other socialist nations that have failed. Right, No, this
Speaker 1: is not only anti American. This is anti everything good,
Speaker 1: and it's certainly anti everything doctor King stood for. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Democrats have a real problem because he's the face of
Speaker 1: the party. Right, you can't get any energy going in
Speaker 1: that party right now, because what's there to build around.
Speaker 1: You know that that party has just turned itself into
Speaker 1: this kind of random collection of special interest groups that
Speaker 1: just gathered together to get and keep power. And think
Speaker 1: about what it's built around. Now, the Democratic Party that
Speaker 1: used to be a Democratic Party of John Kennedy, look
Speaker 1: at the decay and look what it's built around. Now.
Speaker 1: It's built around a commitment to slaughtering large numbers of
Speaker 1: innocent humans. That's what it's built around, and slaughtering them
Speaker 1: to the moment of delivery. It's built around depriving children
Speaker 1: of equal opportunity and education disproportionately kids of color, middle
Speaker 1: income kids, lower income kids. It's built around that. Those
Speaker 1: are the twin pillars right now of this looney Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: It's built around second Kirism, squeezing God out of everything,
Speaker 1: ignoring the very words of our founders, which they declare
Speaker 1: to be unconstitutional right now, the last line and earlier
Speaker 1: lines of the Declaration of Independence. So there's nothing to
Speaker 1: get excited about for any normal person in the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party other than they're not Republicans, right and the GOP
Speaker 1: needs to do a better job there. But so now
Speaker 1: kind of like the Barack Obama phenomena, though Obama was
Speaker 1: smoother at it. Now you've got this guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he can put a couple of sentences together, you can
Speaker 1: do this and that, and he's promising all this free
Speaker 1: stuff and some big dramatic change. So now there's something
Speaker 1: to get excited about for some in the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: which creates a mega problem nationwide for Democrats. Three oh
Speaker 1: three someone three A two five five The number takes
Speaker 1: d an five seven seven three nine. So Ryany also says, hey,
Speaker 1: there's there's plenty of money out there, plenty of money
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 6: There are in the country about twelve hundred, you know,
Speaker 6: people who are just wealthy, beyond beyond anything, right, And
Speaker 6: in twenty or five years ago there were only about
Speaker 6: forty of them. Now there are twelve hundred people who
Speaker 6: are worth more than a billion dollars and much more
Speaker 6: than that. That has to be addressed at some point,
Speaker 6: because they're not paying the taxes that the rest of.
Speaker 3: Us are paying.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I think it gets to the heart of
Speaker 7: the matter, which is that there is enough money for
Speaker 7: a life of dignity for all people. It's just a
Speaker 7: question of whether we have the political will to ensure
Speaker 7: that that might make away from people delivering that.
Speaker 1: And give it to other people, right, because that's what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. He's talking about redistribution of wealth. And
Speaker 1: then it's just a matter of what mechanism you use.
Speaker 1: And again, this is where nationwide it looks like it's
Speaker 1: about to work in New York before it fails miserably,
Speaker 1: but work from an election day. This is where the left,
Speaker 1: you know, just shoots themselves in both feet. And it's
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons the Left is in steady
Speaker 1: decline across America most places, is they look down on
Speaker 1: working people, They look down on people of f They
Speaker 1: have this view. And I know, I mean grew up
Speaker 1: in Chicago, wealthiest family in America. My dad a cop,
Speaker 1: My mom stayed home to be a housewife to we
Speaker 1: five kids. That well, housewife to my dad and then
Speaker 1: a mom to we five kids, and so I know
Speaker 1: we experienced it. All working people have the way that
Speaker 1: it's these elitist. And I'm not talking about people with money,
Speaker 1: because there are plenty of people with money who are
Speaker 1: not elitists in our good kind hearted, generous people who
Speaker 1: help other people get opportunities. But the elitist who control
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Now that the way they look down
Speaker 1: on you, and because they look down on working people,
Speaker 1: what they don't get is the vast majority of working
Speaker 1: people have no interest in redistribution of wealth. They're not jealous.
Speaker 1: We never sat there growing up jealous of the wealthy
Speaker 1: people we caddied for or anything like that. My dad
Speaker 1: was still a golf caddy while he was working as
Speaker 1: a Chicago police officer. He caddied to get extra money
Speaker 1: on weekends. And then we grew up. We couldn't wait
Speaker 1: to become golf caddies, and we didn't sit there jealous
Speaker 1: of the rich people we were caddying for. You know,
Speaker 1: we just wanted our own fair opportunity. Then we make
Speaker 1: of ourselves what we will. So that's where the left
Speaker 1: completely miscalculates, and in this whole idea of yeah, we're
Speaker 1: going to promise this income redistribution, no matter what term
Speaker 1: they used for it, et cetera. That's never going to
Speaker 1: fly broadly in America, but but it can win here
Speaker 1: and there. And it's one sum in Colorado three or
Speaker 1: three someone three A two five five the number text
Speaker 1: d A N five seven seven three nine. It does
Speaker 1: remind me Ryan of this great line that the parish
Speaker 1: priest had once and this is about ten years ago,
Speaker 1: and there was a capital campaign at the church and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, I got good news and bad news.
Speaker 1: He said. The good news is we got plenty of
Speaker 1: money to build a new church.
Speaker 7: Yay.
Speaker 1: Bad news is it's in your pockets.
Speaker 4: So I like that.
Speaker 1: It was a great lie. But here's the difference, right,
Speaker 1: here's the difference between this anti Semite New York antii
Speaker 1: Semitic socialist is is you know, when the priest was talking,
Speaker 1: he was asking people, Okay, please give your money so
Speaker 1: we can do this. Give your money so we can
Speaker 1: take care of those less fortunate. He's telling. The New
Speaker 1: York guy's telling, now, we're going to take it from
Speaker 1: either power of government. We're going to take it from you,
Speaker 1: and we're going to give it to these other people.
Speaker 1: And again, what could possibly go wrong? Where has that
Speaker 1: ever failed other than everywhere? But yeah, and that's the
Speaker 1: other thing. The left doesn't get his faith right. Like
Speaker 1: that's why police came out the day after he won
Speaker 1: the governor's race and said, you got to leave your
Speaker 1: faith outside the public square because he knows if people
Speaker 1: actually live their faith. The left can't win. The left
Speaker 1: can't win, and so people of faith and conservatives. And
Speaker 1: I never would have believed this until I became one
Speaker 1: as a Democrat. I never would have believed this. Conservatives
Speaker 1: are extraordinarily generous. So conservatives, and I'm speaking broadly, you'll
Speaker 1: find the occasional knuck i'll head, like any human endeavor,
Speaker 1: but broadly speaking, and I never in a million years
Speaker 1: would have thought this when I was a Democrat. You know, Conservatives,
Speaker 1: they are extremely generous, and they just want to be
Speaker 1: able to give it themselves, to decide to go out
Speaker 1: and to share that wealth and to give the money themselves,
Speaker 1: rather than have socialist or socialist by some other name
Speaker 1: come in say no, I'm taking your money and I'm
Speaker 1: giving it to these people. Now, that doesn't mean we
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a safety net in society. Of course we should.
Speaker 1: Any decent society would. But that's not what the socialist
Speaker 1: in New York is talking about. That's not what these
Speaker 1: these democrats here in Colorado are talking about. They're talking about,
Speaker 1: like Mike Johnston, I'm going to take your money that
Speaker 1: you've earned and I'm going to give it to other people.
Speaker 1: That's why he promises the world come to Denver.
Speaker 3: End we will get you a home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what label would you put on that you're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you like that? President Kelly? I mean,
Speaker 1: if people only knew around this radio station, Kelly throws
Speaker 1: parties for everybody. Doesn't even have to be their birthday.
Speaker 1: They could have just thought about their birthday coming up.
Speaker 1: Kelly throws them a party. I find out halfway through
Speaker 1: today's show that's not it wasn't halfway a third of
Speaker 1: the way through to show what difference does that make
Speaker 1: that it's Kelly's birthday? I don't see a single streamer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see a cake. I don't see a candle.
Speaker 1: How could this be.
Speaker 3: My underappreciated that's putting it mildly for Kelly co chair.
Speaker 1: Why. Yeah, she's just.
Speaker 3: Sitting there kind of staring off into the distance.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised she's still here.
Speaker 3: If I was her, Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how much she has spent on cards
Speaker 1: and cakes and streamers and everything for all of us.
Speaker 3: She's outstanding and we're sitting here right now.
Speaker 1: We're playing her a song.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's all.
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, Yeah, Steven, you're on the Dan Capitol Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of nice birthday text for you, Kelly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The people love her. She's the people's champion.
Speaker 1: She is that, Dan. I don't think poor people employ
Speaker 1: anyone versus billionaires employ many. And this just goes back
Speaker 1: to a bigger conversation we're having about how the left
Speaker 1: doesn't understand working people. We don't sit around jealous of
Speaker 1: people with money. We just want a fair shot. And
Speaker 1: so to that point, yeah, I mean, like all those
Speaker 1: years we were caddy and my dad was caddy, and
Speaker 1: my uncle, the priest, was caddying before he became a priest.
Speaker 1: He didn't sit there jealous of the rich people. Now
Speaker 1: you appreciated the job. You like most of the people.
Speaker 1: And then hey, those rich people sent me to college
Speaker 1: through the Evans Scholarship, the golf Caddy scholarship. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the movie Caddyshack?
Speaker 3: Many times, not quite as many as you, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think, though. No, that's right, I lived it, Dan, I
Speaker 1: agree with ninety nine percent of everything you say. I
Speaker 1: failed again. I'll get him to one hundred percent. Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: dear Kelly, or giggle makes my day. She does have
Speaker 1: a tremendous giggle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. It is in the background with the echo.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, maybe maybe there is something planned. Happy birthday, Kelly,
Speaker 1: see you in the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Sonny in the back. Sorry, one a different direct too fast?
Speaker 1: Here? Whoa Steven Denver. You're on the Dan Caplis Show. Welcome,
Speaker 1: Hey Dan.
Speaker 4: Why don't you ever talk about why the rich don't
Speaker 4: pay their fair share? I mean, because these knuckle ahead
Speaker 4: lefties don't really understand the concept that the rich people
Speaker 4: don't get paid the same way we do. And even
Speaker 4: if one of them contributes to a four oh one K,
Speaker 4: they're not paying their fit their fair share either. Explain
Speaker 4: how that works, you know. It's like these guys don't
Speaker 4: pay taxes on their money. They get paid in stock
Speaker 4: auctions and investments. They don't pay taxes on that until
Speaker 4: they withdrawn out of the bank account to use it.
Speaker 4: Same as me. I'm going to text for all my
Speaker 4: investments till I retire a rich point, I'll be in
Speaker 4: a lower tax bracket that I'm in now, I'll be
Speaker 4: I have tax on that on that money than I
Speaker 4: should today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like Trump has talked about and everything else,
Speaker 1: you're just taking advantage of the law of the way
Speaker 1: it's structured. But let me ask you, because it sounds like,
Speaker 1: you know, you've worked hard and done very well financially,
Speaker 1: what do you think you should be paying if you
Speaker 1: could write the tax code the way you think it
Speaker 1: should be written. For income you make this year, what
Speaker 1: do you think you should be paid?
Speaker 4: Well, not as much as what they want to make
Speaker 4: me pay. I don't want to pay well.
Speaker 1: They have you paid all?
Speaker 4: Agree with?
Speaker 1: They have you paid all? They just distributed?
Speaker 4: I don't know. We paid thirty percent right now in
Speaker 4: our tax bracket. You know, my wife and I may
Speaker 4: make really good money, so you know, thirty thirty five
Speaker 4: percent where our tax bracket should be. But you know,
Speaker 4: still even then, that's a you know, I hate to
Speaker 4: say it, it's not enough to really live on. Right
Speaker 4: You're still stretching, stretching end to end on it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're we're saving money, we're interesting, we're going
Speaker 4: to be we're going to be well off in retirement.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like it's still you
Speaker 4: still struggle with that with that tax bracket because we're
Speaker 4: paying for for everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get hit with all these other types
Speaker 1: of taxes along the way as well. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, does police pay his fair share? Ryan? Do
Speaker 1: you remember that pro public article? I can't remember with
Speaker 1: his effective tax rate?
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 1: Well, if I remember writing, i'd want to rerate it again.
Speaker 1: I think it's lower than the typical waitress. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then how much does does Amazon and you know,
Speaker 4: Elon Musks company contribute to the overall tax base with jobs,
Speaker 4: payroll taxes, corporate taxes, sales taxes, all that stuff. I
Speaker 4: meanw much do they generate to their businesses for that? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well but as you know, you know, a socialist
Speaker 1: like this and I sent New York, you know that
Speaker 1: they would want to kill the golden goose, have this
Speaker 1: one big feast, you know that that last a few
Speaker 1: months and then all of a sudden things just deteriorate.
Speaker 1: But they're not going to mine that, right because then
Speaker 1: people are just more dependent on government as things go downhill,
Speaker 1: and they figure if they've got there, they're built in
Speaker 1: electoral majority. As they make things worse, they expand their
Speaker 1: bililt in majority, that's their plan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, if you want to give me a
Speaker 4: you know, the constant living and just send me a
Speaker 4: check every week, then I'm not going to be productive anymore.
Speaker 4: I'll no, I'm happy to sit back and not do anything.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, or tax steve to the point where it
Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense to work those fourteen sixteen
Speaker 1: hour days, right right, I mean, yeah, exactly, Then you
Speaker 1: just don't do it anymore. Good call, man, Hey, really
Speaker 1: appreciate that as a guide. I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: it would sound too self serving, but I'll say it anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Okay, So I've been in a
Speaker 1: mode now and I'm I think, God every day i
Speaker 1: have the job I have, and I've we've been blessed
Speaker 1: with the good things we've been blessed with in our firm.
Speaker 1: But I'm probably averaging. I was whining about this, I
Speaker 1: think to my wife a day or two ago. Then
Speaker 1: she went off to play what's that game they play now?
Speaker 1: Have you're an a majon or something?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think I've averaged probably twelve or thirteen
Speaker 1: hours a day, usually fifteen, six days a week at
Speaker 1: least for the last four or five months, Right, Am
Speaker 1: I going to put in that much time in my
Speaker 1: job if all of a sudden the government's going to
Speaker 1: be taking eighty percent of it. And then you think
Speaker 1: of the jobs that aren't created and all of that
Speaker 1: good stuff. But again, I'm grateful to have it. Thank
Speaker 1: you Ryan, thank you Kelly.