WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:10.400 Bill cunning Hammigrant America. Welcomers were wonderful Monday afternoon. The 2 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.199 Tri State Reds baseball off today, a little bit of 3 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:16.559 our restite until tomorrow Tuesday, Wednesday business special on Thursday. 4 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:19.320 The Seattle teams in town and the Reds are hotter 5 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.800 than a firecracker right now, won five of the last six. 6 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.519 They're impregnable, they're unbeatable, and now they have the whole 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.519 team coming back on Tuesday tomorrows. The life should be 8 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.000 a little bit better. But set things up for the 9 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.039 American people. There's a sense, based upon conversations and based 10 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.439 upon leeks out of Columbus, that the deal is done. 11 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:39.960 Relative to the Browns getting about six hundred and sixty 12 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:43.719 million dollars the Bengals getting about maybe three hundred million. 13 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.399 When I had on Denise tree House, the chair of 14 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:49.359 the Commissioner's Hamley County last week, she said it's one third, 15 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.799 one third, one third. The state gives one third, the 16 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.640 Bengals slash NFL gives one third. The taxpayers in Hamley 17 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.320 County give one third, one third, one third, one third. 18 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.079 She's cautiously optimistic it's going to pass that one third 19 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.359 from the state would be about three hundred million dollars. 20 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.640 The whole deal about eight hundred and fifty eight hundred 21 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.400 and sixty million. Of course, the price will go up, 22 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:12.799 and when I speak to the leaders in Columbus, I'm 23 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.920 not sure that's the case. There is some apprehension as 24 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.959 to whether hard work and schleps like Tony Benner should 25 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.120 pay sales tax so multi billionaires can have their play 26 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.280 pens that Tony can't afford to watch games. So as 27 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.439 a consequence, I wanted to have more leadership on and 28 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.799 I have calls into Governor Mike DeWine and Speak of 29 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.959 the House Matt Huffman twice last week scheduled to come 30 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:36.599 on the show with me, but said let's wait a 31 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:38.959 little bit longer. I won't say he canceled. What he 32 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.560 wanted to do was wait about a week or two. 33 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:43.560 So I kind of want to get the insight on 34 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:47.799 what's happening at Columbus with the Bengals from Representative Adam Byrd, 35 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:50.439 who's the Assistant Majority Floor Leader, is one of the 36 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:53.040 four leaders of the House of Representatives. He's at the 37 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.920 table when discussions are had about dividing up by the 38 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.640 monies and then also I might add the Carl Linder 39 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.040 would like a chunk of dough also for some developments 40 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.879 next to TQL Stadium. In fact, deer Park High School 41 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.200 could use some state money. I talked to the athletic 42 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.599 director at deer Park High School, and since the state's 43 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:11.360 handing in all this money, how about give him a 44 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:13.719 couple million dollars at deer Park High School for the 45 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.280 new polo field. But in the meantime, Representative Adam Bird 46 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.199 of New Richmond more or less, welcome again to the 47 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.879 Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Representative, you're at 48 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.719 the table. You're the assistant Majority four leader in the House. 49 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.879 And there was reporting last week that the House had 50 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.960 approved something in the range of six hundred and sixty 51 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.680 million dollars or so in bonds to be paid over 52 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.520 thirty years to give to Jimmy Haslam, the owner of 53 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.759 the Browns, to move the Cleveland team from northern to 54 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:43.639 Cauyhoker County to southern Cauyhoker County as part of a 55 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:47.479 multi billion dollar development. So can you generally speak to 56 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.240 the issue whether the lawmakers in Columbus are willing to 57 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.439 give the Browns to Bengals, TQL Stadium, Carl Linder, and 58 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.560 Deer Park High School. Lots of money. What do you 59 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:56.159 say about that? 60 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.159 Hey, No, it's great to be with you today. A 61 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.400 lot in there. You know, personally, I'm in favor of 62 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.120 money for dear Park High School and whatever they need 63 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:09.280 there to keep the Wildcats in option. But you know, 64 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:12.000 as far as the deal that the Ohio House approved 65 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.520 last week that was six hundred million dollars in bonds. 66 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:16.719 But but but. 67 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.199 Remember this bill that that this is a deal where 68 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.000 the state is going to make money or be held 69 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.960 even And and this this deal for for moving the 70 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.479 Browns to Brook Park, that the state's part of that 71 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.080 is only one six of a project that is three 72 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:38.840 point six billion in scope. And so the has On family, 73 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.080 the locals, they're putting off a lot of money here. 74 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.120 And so this is a completely different story. In my mind, 75 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.639 I'm just one person, but this is this is completely 76 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.960 different because the state is going to be held harmless 77 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.199 in that and may even make money. And also don't 78 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.520 forget that for the state's section of this part of this, 79 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.080 the has Long family sw up fifty million dollars as 80 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.120 collateral that will grow in an escrow over the next 81 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.759 thirty years, whose value. Its value could be around two 82 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.719 hundred million dollars in the next thirty years. So the 83 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.039 State of Ohio is holding on to a lot of 84 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.360 collateral here. We're only putting up one sixth of the project, 85 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.600 and there's no general revenue fund being put into this bill, 86 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.639 no general revenue fund being put into this project. And 87 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.480 I say that at the same time that we've given 88 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.759 over one hundred million dollars to the State Fair. We've 89 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.959 already given money to TQL Stadium, We've already given money 90 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:36.120 to the Columbus Crew. We've already given money to the 91 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.480 ATP ten Tennis Center in Mason, We've given money to Intel, 92 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:44.680 We've given money to Andrew, and we give to projects. 93 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:45.720 All over the state of Ohio bill. 94 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.639 So there's a lot of investment that the State of 95 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.160 Ohio has made and will continue to make because we 96 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.040 want Ohio to be a destination state. We want this 97 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.399 to be a place that retains our citizens and people 98 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.560 want to come here and it's a great place to 99 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:00.279 grow pay. 100 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.680 So on the Hanslom deal with the Browns, it passed 101 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.720 I think by one vote. And when there's some more 102 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:10.800 or less vacant land in southern Cayhoga County that produces 103 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:14.120 little or no money presently. And so from the state's perspective, 104 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.639 they look at this undeveloped land in southern Cuyhoga County 105 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.959 and they can say, Okay, you're we're going to put 106 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.160 up one sixth of the money you're going to put up. 107 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.439 And when all this happens in the next two to 108 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.639 three four years, the sales tax from this brand new 109 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.399 development that doesn't exist presently would be of such a 110 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.120 character that the state's going to actually make money. In 111 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.480 addition to that, the states held harmless because of this 112 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.240 fifty million in escrow that's going to grow over the 113 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.879 next thirty years, maybe the two or three hundred million dollars, 114 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.079 in which case the state's going to lose no money. 115 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.360 Is that different than the Bengals deal? 116 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:50.759 Way different? 117 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:51.000 Bill? 118 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.040 And remember when you put a dome stadium, and you 119 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:58.800 know the Indianapolis Colts and this dome stadium over there 120 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.199 that they have been and gobbling up all of the 121 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:05.079 big things that come to Midwestern United States. And it's 122 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.600 time for Ohio to get in this game. And so 123 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.600 when this happens, if it happens, and we bring the 124 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:15.600 Super Bowl to Ohio, we bring the NFL Draft to Ohio, 125 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.920 when you have Monster truck pulls and Taylor Swift concerts 126 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:23.639 and and so we're not talking about an investment for 127 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.680 the Cleveland Browns. We're talking about an investment that that's 128 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.600 not just ten games a year. We're talking about fifty 129 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.720 to sixty major events throughout the year. And so this 130 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.120 is going to present such tax benefit to the state 131 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:42.120 of Ohio that that we'll make money on this deal. 132 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.040 And again, Bill, your reader, your listeners need to know 133 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.720 that this is not costing the general revenue one dime, Okay, 134 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:52.720 not one dime, And this is all bond money that 135 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:57.079 we are going to make back and perhaps double what 136 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.879 the cost is over the next you know, a couple 137 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.040 of decades with the kinds of events that we're going 138 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:02.879 to attract. 139 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.000 You, Ohio. 140 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.120 So right now, there's no deal for the Bengals as 141 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:10.279 we sit here this Monday afternoon, there's no long document 142 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.000 that says, okay, the Bengals are great to day, the 143 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.120 county agrees, everything's negotiated, it's done. All we need is 144 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.920 one third from the state. Am I correct in making. 145 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:23.959 That statement, You are absolutely correct. There is no deal done. 146 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.920 And let me tell you something here, Bill, I'm. 147 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.639 Just one guy, okay, but I'm not in favor of 148 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.600 a deal for the Bengals until we get a couple 149 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.839 of conditions in place. Number one, the least with Hamilton County, 150 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.040 and my mind and my way of thinking needs to 151 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:43.160 be renegotiated because this is among the NFL's worst for 152 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.759 taxpayers in all of America. The Bengals retain all the 153 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.560 stadium revenue, all the concessions, all the parking, all the merchandise, 154 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:55.040 They the least that they have mandates, capital improvements, all 155 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.519 of the game day expenses are paid by Hamilton County. 156 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.439 And guess what, Bill, they named the pay Course Stadium 157 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:02.920 and they're making money off of that when they don't 158 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.240 even own the stadium, okay, And so all of the while, 159 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.399 the Cincinnati Bengals valuation has grown from like five hundred 160 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:14.720 million back in the nineties to four to five billion 161 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.680 dollars today. And I don't think that's a fair deal 162 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:24.639 at all for them to have every everything leveraged against 163 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.519 Hamilton County. So why would the state participate in a 164 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:32.679 deal that is so unfavorable the taxpayers, and many consider 165 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.080 the worst in the NFL. That's number one. Number two, 166 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.279 if we can get this renegotiated so it's not so 167 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.480 poor for the taxpayers. Number two, Cincinnati Bengals present a 168 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.080 deal to the state where the state can make money 169 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.799 or at least be held even, and you make those 170 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.080 two Again, I'm just one person, though, but those two 171 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:55.039 conditions I think are reasonable for the state of Ohire. 172 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.759 And in the Browns case, this is a thirty year bond. 173 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:02.000 This as I understand the deal, the money from the 174 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.600 state needs to come up real soon because they want 175 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:08.279 to redo pay Course stadium and they need the money 176 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.679 now to make it look better. Unlike the Browns deal, 177 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.919 this deal is we need two hundred and fifty three 178 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.840 hundred million dollars now. And the Governor, Mike DeWine. I 179 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:19.720 have a call in him to come on either Tuesday 180 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.919 or Wednesday, But Governor Mike Dwine has said that this 181 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:26.200 is a low priority. Have you in your meetings with 182 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:29.720 Matt Huffman, the Speaker, and with Mike DeWine, have they 183 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:35.080 expressed concerns about using public money middle class sales tax 184 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.039 money to benefit billionaires when it doesn't look as if 185 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:41.000 there's going to be a return other than Joe Burrow 186 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:42.759 winning the Super Bowl, which would be a great I'm 187 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:44.840 all in favor of the Bengals State. I think even 188 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:46.960 though you live in New Richmond, I think you want 189 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.360 the Bengals to stay. But in my correcting, state of 190 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.120 the money to Cleveland is paid in such a way 191 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.960 the state will actually make money. The money here must 192 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:56.279 be given up front. 193 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.919 Well, you're stating a lot it there, Bill. I understand 194 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.240 that the Cincinnati Bengals are regional draw and they get 195 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.519 people from Kentucky and Indiana and all parts of Southern 196 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:11.919 Ohio that come to And yeah, I want nice things 197 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.519 for our area, for Southern Ohio, and I do want 198 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.960 it to be a destination and a place. 199 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:18.399 For people to go. 200 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:24.519 But as you said, they're wanting general revenue fund dollars 201 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.399 up front, Bill, and that's just not going to happen. 202 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.639 We did not spend any of the taxpayer's money on 203 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.919 this Cleveland Browns deal, which by the way, hasn't been approved. 204 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.480 It's only been through one chamber. It's still got to 205 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:38.679 be approved in the Senate, and the governor still has 206 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.679 to sign it. And this does not give any general 207 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.080 revenue tax money to the Browns, and I don't believe 208 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.399 that we should give any The same thing should be 209 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:51.200 true for the Bengals. We should not be giving hard 210 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:56.080 working taxpayer money for this project unless a couple of 211 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.440 demands are meant. Number one, this is me can build. 212 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.840 But this stadium lease with Hamilton County is the worst 213 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.480 in the NFL. And why would we throw good money 214 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.080 after a bad lease. We have to have that lease renewed, 215 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.519 in my mind, and we need a deal where they 216 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:17.320 present a plan to us where the state makes money 217 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.279 or is held even and we're not using taxpayer dollars 218 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:20.679 to do it. 219 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.320 Could you bond the three hundred million dollars the Bengals 220 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.320 won over time? Could you much like in the Cleveland deal? 221 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:30.240 And I have a sense I don't know. Maybe the 222 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.399 deal will be struck tomorrow. Maybe the Bengals in the 223 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.200 county will come together. Here's the deal. It's eight hundred 224 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.960 pages long, it's all written. Everybody agrees, contingent upon the state. 225 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.679 If all that happens in the next few weeks, June 226 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.080 thirtieth is kind of like a cutoff date because for 227 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.159 you in leadership of the House. The two year budget 228 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.000 begins July first of twenty twenty five until July first, 229 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.399 twenty twenty seven, and so the train's going to leave 230 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.759 the station soon plus out or near that date. The 231 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.919 Bengals have to notify the county if they want to 232 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.080 stand the least for two more years, in which case 233 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.000 under the old lease, which gets worse and worse and worse. 234 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:08.840 And so if all this comes together in the next 235 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:12.360 two or three weeks eight inner page leaves understanding passed 236 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:14.919 by the Commission, are you willing to bond that money 237 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.320 over the next thirty years like in the Browns deal. 238 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.720 What I would say, Bill is Cincini Bengals present a 239 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.120 plan that shows the state making money or held even, 240 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.879 And you're right about the timing. The timing is very short. 241 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.919 And I would say that the Haslng family in the 242 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.480 Cleveland Browns have been very proactive in working this for 243 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.799 the last year or so, and so now it seems 244 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.600 I don't have any proof of this, but it seems 245 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.559 like the Bengals are trying to parachute in at the 246 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.480 last second. They have not talked a deal, they have 247 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.399 not met any of these things that I have suggested 248 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:54.519 should be in place beforehand, but the time is of 249 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.519 essence right now, and the State Senate is considering the 250 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.360 budget right now. Over the next month, they'll pass a 251 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.399 budget that that changes what the House did, or they'll 252 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.200 late and leave something the same. Then the two chambers 253 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:10.000 will get together and negotiate the differences, and then the 254 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.639 governor gets the line item veto and all of that, 255 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.799 and then we have to all of that has to 256 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.519 be done by the end of June built and so 257 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.919 the time is time is running short, and and and 258 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.600 you know, I don't know. The Bengals are used to 259 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.320 getting whatever they want with Hamilton County, so I don't 260 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.039 I personally don't know that there that Hamilton County is 261 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.600 going to be able to be able to negotiate any 262 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.559 friendlier terms than than what is right now. That the 263 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.639 NFL's worst for taxpayers. 264 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.519 And if that's not a complete redoing of that lease 265 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.519 leadership of the House, is am I correct in stating 266 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:47.759 if the status quo is more or less maintained, that 267 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:49.240 dog won't hunt in Columbus. 268 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.960 Well, Bill, I'm just one person, Okay, I'm not talked 269 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.360 to anybody else. I'm just one vote out of ninety nine. 270 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.279 And then to me, though, I think we recognize I do, 271 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.639 I recognize that this lease is not good for the taxpayers, 272 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.879 and and so there needs to be a change there 273 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:12.000 in my mind. But but again, I'm just one vote 274 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.639 shows mingles, show us a deal where the state makes 275 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:18.000 money or held even and and present that. And don't 276 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:19.960 you know if you just come and say, hey, I 277 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.200 want and fifty million dollars, I don't think there's going 278 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:27.559 to be any appetite at all at all in the House. 279 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:28.000 For the Senate. 280 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:32.480 I suspect Senator Blessing from Hamilton County is going to 281 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.919 be a posed to any general revenue dollars for the 282 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:35.759 Bengals as well. 283 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.799 And then the line item veto is kind of a 284 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.919 little bit on the weeds. But if the governor can 285 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.039 line item veto something out and the governor's not not 286 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.279 keen on any of these deals, it would take a 287 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.960 sixty vote in the House and send it to override 288 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:51.480 the governor's veto. Is that correct? 289 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:55.639 That is correct, Bill, And I would say that there's 290 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.720 probably not a six there's not sixty votes in the 291 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.559 House to override the governor's on this particular issue. 292 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.840 Okay, well, let's see what happened. He could do that, now, 293 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:06.879 the governor. 294 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.360 He could line item veto that. We'll see what happens. 295 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.039 But you know, again, I'm not opposed to nice things 296 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.399 for southern Ohio. I would love to see the Bengals 297 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:22.120 be a place that attracts people from all over Central 298 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.480 you know, Ohio and Kentucky and Indiana. Sure, and you 299 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.759 know we have people who come here all the time 300 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.039 for game days. But this, here's another part of the 301 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.159 Bengals steel bill that I find particularly offensive, the deal 302 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.200 that they hit with Hamilton County. Hamilton County can't schedule 303 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.000 any events there without the Bengals being able to veto 304 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.600 anything else. Why can't Why does an organization that doesn't 305 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.360 own the stadium? Why do they get complete veto over 306 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.799 the scheduling of any events in a stadium that they 307 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:50.240 don't own. 308 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.919 Well, the landlord normally pays for the ban. The landlord 309 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.279 normally calls the tune. Except in this last the opposite 310 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.720 is true. The Bengals have complete control over a stadium 311 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:04.120 they don't own. There, you go, all right, Well, at 312 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.159 least that's a reality check from Adam Bird, Assistant Majority 313 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.759 for a leader. And lastly, about a minute remaining. New 314 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.159 Richmond has recovered magnificently from the flood. Tell me the 315 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.200 status of New Richmond this Monday afternoon. 316 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:21.440 Oh my goodness, Bill, the people have come together. I'm 317 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:25.039 just really again proud of the resilience of my town. 318 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.279 And you know, there's so many people at school, kids 319 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.399 have come together, Volunteers have come together, and you know, 320 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.799 it's a hard working place of people who who love 321 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.559 the river. And I'm just really proud of the way 322 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:43.600 that they continue to bounce back. And so you and 323 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.519 I got to meet and get together at the Front 324 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:47.600 Street Cafe and have a workshop or something. 325 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.600 I love it there and I'm going to come up soon. 326 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.080 I didn't want to come this week and I think 327 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.240 it was open, but I'm sure things are going to 328 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:56.960 be better on a warm June evening. But State Representative 329 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.159 Adam Bird, you're at the table in the leadership. I 330 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.919 think you're bringing some reality to these issues and a 331 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.319 lot of talking needs to be done and a lot 332 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.400 of hurdles have to be overcome in a short period 333 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:09.359 of time. We'll see what happens. Hope Springs Eternal and 334 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.839 Adam Bird, State Rep. Once again, thank you for coming 335 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.279 on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Adam. 336 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:15.400 Bill. 337 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.119 It's always an honor and I can see it for 338 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:21.240 some you me, Bryson d Chambeau and Rory. 339 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:26.880 Okay, and I'll take Rory in that matchup, and I'll 340 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.440 take him because that story with yesterday was unbelievable. How 341 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:32.599 he was gonna win, He's gonna lose, is gonna win, 342 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:36.279 gonna lose, then he's gonna win. And it was dramatic television. 343 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.480 But to Adam Bird, thank you very much and God 344 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:40.960 bless you, Thank you very much. All Right, let's continue 345 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.759 with more if a line becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 346 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:47.039 seven thousand. That, my fellow Americans, is a dose of 347 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:55.039 reality on seven hundred. Wulw Keaton hit the music. Life's 348 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.680 pretty good. A lot of difficulties, a lot of problems. 349 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.519 The reality is setting in in some ways. We all 350 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.599 want the Bengals to be here. Joe Burrow number one, 351 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:08.519 number five, We love them both, Jamar t absolutely, Trey Henderson, 352 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.200 get it signed. Yes, that's fantasy Land sports. It's kind 353 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.839 of the comic pages of life watching the Masters. Yesterday, 354 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.079 Rory Calhoun was gonna win then he's gonna lose, and 355 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.480 then he's gonna win. Then he's supposed to lose. Then 356 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.279 he had to win on eighteen. Then he lost, and 357 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.119 he came back and he won. It was dramatic. That's 358 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.000 the comic book pages of life. It's not reality for 359 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.839 you and me. Whether whether Rory McIlory won or lost, 360 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.480 one's going to change my life one bit. So Justin 361 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:39.839 Rose certainly, how about have rounded Augusta the last round 362 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:43.519 Justin Rose had eleven birdies. It can't get much better 363 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.240 than that. Played out of his Gordon just fell. I 364 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.960 guess stroke short, but it was. It was the funny 365 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.079 pages of life, much like the Bengals the Reds FC 366 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.039 are the funny pages of life, not real. But to 367 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.000 the ownership of those ball clubs Jimmy Haslim Brown's owner, 368 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.799 it's reality for them. They want more and more money. 369 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.720 How many billions do you need? The argument? I heard 370 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.440 one pundit say that you're gonna have middle class tax 371 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.960 payers from all over the region, not just Hambleton County. 372 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.440 I think there was a study done that about forty 373 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.400 five percent who attend Bengals games live in Hambleton County. 374 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.200 Fifty five percent come from all over Hell's half acre, 375 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.279 so in the sales tax collects revenue from individuals who 376 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:24.279 don't live in Hamley County, which I think living in 377 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.079 Hamley County that's a good thing, right, But at some point, 378 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.640 how many billions and billions do you need? And that 379 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.279 the Brown family started off with the Bengals in the 380 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:38.440 late nineteen sixties a franchise worth about eighty million dollars. 381 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.039 It's now worth about four to five billion dollars and 382 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.559 the last thirty years has been quite a fight between 383 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:46.960 the county and the Bengals because of the lease put 384 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.799 together by Bob betting House and others that was, shall 385 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:52.200 we say, one sided, just a little bit one sided. 386 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.319 And then Bob betting House goes to work for the Bengals, 387 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.200 so whenever there was a lawsuit filed in the years after, 388 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.359 he could ta sify on behalf of the county as 389 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.480 to what was in everyone's mind when he struck the deal. 390 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:09.880 That was kind of peculiar, would you agree. Nonetheless, we're 391 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:13.920 sitting here now with the comments of Senator Blessing, State 392 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.920 Senator Blessing with Sloany this morning and also Adam Byrd 393 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.599 is pretty obvious that this dog's not going to hunt. 394 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:24.519 There's a significant difference between the Hanslim deal for the Browns, 395 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.240 which passed the House by one vote, and the deal 396 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.720 that the county and the Bengals are fashioning. And I 397 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.440 have respect for Denise Treehouse who said one third, one third, 398 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.640 one third, one third from the state, one third from 399 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.039 the Bengals slash NFL, one third from us. That means 400 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.119 the Bengals are put up indirectly some serious money to 401 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.960 the tune of three hundred million dollars, which, considering their 402 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:52.359 net worth, is a drop in the bucket. So you 403 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.359 heard Adam Byrd and Senator Blessing talk about general revenue 404 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:01.519 money as opposed to bonding. General revenue is something rather sacred. 405 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.799 That's direct taxpayer money to support institutions. A bonding requirement 406 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.680 means you issue a bond payable over thirty years, maybe 407 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.720 a five percent interest, and the interest in the bond 408 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.200 and the principle will be paid by the activities conducted 409 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.119 on the property being bonded. So when Jimmy Haslam in 410 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.039 Cleveland wants to move the Browns to southern Cahua County, 411 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:25.240 largely there are farm fields producing no revenue. So when 412 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.920 you put something worth maybe three billion dollars in that 413 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:32.319 area along with dozens of events every year, and that 414 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:35.400 generates brand new money that the county and the state 415 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:39.119 didn't have. And in addition to that, the Haslam families 416 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.279 putting up fifty million dollars off to the side of 417 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.519 escrow to hold the state harmless. That money's going to 418 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.200 grow and kind of look at it from a business perspective. 419 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.640 It's not general revenue money. It's coming from bonding authority, 420 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:52.759 and the state's going to make money on the deal, 421 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:54.480 or at least break even, I think, make a lot 422 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:57.160 of money on the deal. So okay, that's fine. That's 423 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.039 not what the Bengals are proposing. They're opposing simply a 424 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.279 check written by the state soon for like three hundred 425 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.960 million dollars. And from my not just Blessing and Bird, 426 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.920 but Matt Huffman, who's the powerhouse in Columbus. He went 427 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.960 to UC law school, lives in Aida Lima. He's the 428 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:17.599 speaker of the House. He's more powerful than the governor 429 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.559 in a sense, and he says I had him scheduled 430 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:23.240 twice last week, but he wanted to reschedule because he 431 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:25.160 knew what I'd be asking him, so he's gonna wait 432 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.960 a little bit, which I respect. That's fine. I'm just 433 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.240 a talk show host on your behalf. And no one 434 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:34.519 in Columbus, not even Democrats, want to write a check 435 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.839 to the Bengals for three hundred million dollars to start 436 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:41.279 the renovation. Now, there may not be any more revenue 437 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.359 generated from the deal at all. The banks is largely 438 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.799 built out, and the stadium has been there for thirty 439 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:52.400 years or twenty seven years, and small park is nice, 440 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.000 but it doesn't generate any cash. And so you look 441 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:59.960 at this thing. Holy Mike, Mike, come on in, Mike mcconne. 442 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.640 Mike McConnell, Mike McConnell. I remember you didn't You used 443 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.400 to work here, Mike McConnell A long time. Yeah. How 444 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:14.759 you doing that? You're fine? Ten day? Turn on the microphone. 445 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.960 You know how that works? No, I, no, are you on? 446 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:18.279 Now? 447 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.000 Turn up? Turn it up, Dave, turn it up. So, Mike, 448 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.880 what are you doing well? I played golf at three 449 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:28.079 this morning, eight o'clock in the morning. Did do that 450 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:32.119 before eight oh three am? You played golf? What happened? 451 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:32.680 Good time? 452 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.400 How'd you play? You play like Rory. I won for sure. 453 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:36.440 How much did you win? 454 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.039 Eight bucks? Ten bucks? Eighteen? 455 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:39.400 Well? 456 00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:40.720 What time are you getting up in the morning? 457 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:45.359 Now, well it was three twenty, so to bear that 458 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.480 in mind. So if I can get up at five 459 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.920 thirty or later, oh that's that's pretty good. You're sleeping in. 460 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.759 I did six thirty eight one morning, was my record. 461 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:55.599 So you woke up and said, what the hell, I 462 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.319 gotta get to work. 463 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.680 If there's that moment between consciousness and sleep when you're 464 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:00.799 saying I got to get up and get. 465 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:05.680 To work, there was this morning because it's Monday. Wait 466 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:07.839 a minute, I don't have to do that anymore. 467 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:09.720 What do you miss? And you miss it? 468 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.079 I mean I've been three four days. What do you miss? 469 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:16.319 You know, the camaraderie part of it's fun and the audience. 470 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:19.680 You know, a bunch of nice people out there just 471 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:21.720 had to come in because of the home studios kind 472 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:22.400 of on the fritz. 473 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.319 And well, I'm told though you're kind of looking around. 474 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.519 I had a picture of you on Monday coming in, 475 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:28.279 so they had to do the same thing. Then here 476 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.559 it is again, another Monday. Do I see a pattern? 477 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:30.680 Here? 478 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.759 Are you're going to come in? On a regular basis, 479 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.200 just a couple of Happy go lucky commercials. What about 480 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.799 picking up some shifts? Can you come in slowly? Now 481 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.640 come back? I'm not slowly they're coming back. I'm not 482 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.400 planning to do that. You're not coming back. 483 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.240 No, you have to have your head in the game 484 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:47.720 one hundred percent to do it right. And you know 485 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.559 when you're retired, I'm not going to get my head 486 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.079 in the game. 487 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.480 And you said to me a few years ago something 488 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.200 I recall, and that is that when if you're off 489 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.119 for a week or ten days or two weeks, when 490 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.240 you come back the first day or two you're not 491 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.200 in the rhythm right. And I've noticed that. And so 492 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.359 if you're out for several months, you're not coming back. 493 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.319 But we want you to come back and maybe pinch 494 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.839 it at a minimum. Would you consider that? No? May 495 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:11.759 I ask why? Because everyone comes back. 496 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.039 Reason Either you're either you're you know you're you're in 497 00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:17.519 it up to your eyeballs, or you're not. 498 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.079 You got to be in it up to your eyeballs. 499 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.359 Did you see it coming? Because I know Christmas time 500 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.119 we did our spectacular and I mentioned to you then 501 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.119 I said, this Christmas morning, do you think you want 502 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.119 to announce and you said no, no, why do you 503 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:29.640 choose to do it your way? 504 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:31.480 That's you don't want to hear you know it. Don't 505 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.519 need months of people saying why why are you? 506 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:35.640 Why don't go? 507 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.000 You know, so you hit a week of it. I'd 508 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.359 like to minimize that a little bit. What about travel 509 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.880 and might you visit Ukraine? Might you go to uh? 510 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.559 I think maybe maybe next week. What are you going 511 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.960 to do? Are you gonna travel? You're gonna live travel 512 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.000 and travel make some fun. 513 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.680 Yeah, it's funny because I usually have always gone to 514 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.839 see my family see Philly to Philly around Mother's Day. 515 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.039 Even though my mom was gone, I still go around 516 00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.000 Mother's Day. But I was still in this work mode 517 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.400 when I booked the flights, and I well, I got 518 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.680 to come back on Sundays, like, well, I already booked it. 519 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:08.319 Now I'd have to pay extra to change it. So 520 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:09.359 you're not changing. 521 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.160 I'm going to change it, but I'll know in the future. 522 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.839 Get your head out of the fact that you're not working. 523 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.680 Give me your thoughts on the stadium deal. We had 524 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.839 on Scott Sloane had on Blessing. I just had on 525 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.039 Adam Bird, who's like fourth in control of the House Representatives. Yeah, 526 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.279 both of them are saying that dog's not going to 527 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.680 hunt that. The Hanslom deal was reported like, well, the 528 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:31.119 Brown's got their money, now let's get the banglet's get 529 00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:31.519 our money. 530 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.000 Well, they got their money, but the idea is the 531 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.359 state's supposed to get it back, so they development around. 532 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:37.160 It would be like if we didn't build the banks yet, 533 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.680 and if they give us money for the stadium and 534 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:40.400 one of these banks, and you'll get all that money. 535 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.119 But the bank's already there. There's no new revenue coming 536 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.960 maybe slight, but not like Haslm's got a hundred and 537 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.240 fifty acres in the middle of nowhere. No money coming out, 538 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.519 and according to according to the state, he's putting up 539 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.279 fifty million off to the side of escrow. The state's 540 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.039 going to get they're going to bond it. Then it's 541 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.519 coming out. Now general revenue is coming out of a 542 00:26:57.559 --> 00:26:59.759 bonding when the bonds be paid off by the additional 543 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.599 ec on. The activity doesn't apply here. But the Bengals 544 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.640 are saying we went three hundred million dollars, like now 545 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.759 we've got to redo the stadium in the next three years, 546 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.920 and the state's saying no, no, no, what happens. We 547 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.599 went through this in nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety six. 548 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.559 What happens, play it out the next two months, is 549 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.319 going to be done by June, or they're going to 550 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:19.960 extend the lease. 551 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.640 Well, FC once money, but at least they're building. They're 552 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.799 doing that development to the side of it, which generates 553 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.599 some income from the state. I mean, they're in a 554 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:28.599 better position to get their money than the Bengals. And 555 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.240 Lender is in a good position. He's given millions of 556 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.599 dollars to the Republican Party and Mike Brown's given nothing 557 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:35.160 to nobody. 558 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.079 He doesn't make donations. He doesn't do that. So if they. 559 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.720 Couldn't know what he does, I just I've heard he 560 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.799 does quietly, quietly, but not make political donations. 561 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.880 But the Lender family makes a huge political donations, and 562 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.880 Mike Brown does not make huge political donations. He does 563 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.640 it quietly under the side to help former players and others. 564 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.000 He writes a check takes care of a different issue. 565 00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.960 Do you think the Bengals might leave? Mike McConnell, what 566 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:57.519 do you say, No. 567 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.240 You have the what's what's the option there? From the 568 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.680 Brown where you have to give others an opportunity to 569 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.880 buy it, and there are people out there with trillions 570 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:10.119 of dollars they just they buy him. Just it's a fun. 571 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.519 It's fun. It's a it's a notoriety. You know, you're 572 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:15.400 playing with the big boys. 573 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:15.480 Now. 574 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:17.839 If you've got an NFL teal team and there's billionaires 575 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.400 that would like to buy him, yes, and then the 576 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.839 deal would be to keep him here. Correct, and Katie 577 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:24.519 and Troy don't want that. I think Mike Brown's ninety 578 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:28.599 years old and at some point the Grim Reaper comes first. 579 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.240 All yeah, but still, I mean, the the rule is 580 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.759 the rule. You have to let somebody else, but you 581 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.440 can't just back up and go. And I said that 582 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.519 when they first built that thing, there's no way you'd 583 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.240 have that gigantic edifice at the entrance to the city 584 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:44.440 and nobody playing in it and. 585 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.680 Had to tear it down. I mean, it's bad, it's bad. 586 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.640 I think the NFL understands that Mike Brown is he 587 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.200 often doesn't play well with others. Whenever there's something up, 588 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.359 normally votes thirty one to one or thirty to two, 589 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.640 and Mike's always the one of the two. And the 590 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.519 NFL model now is to do the big Jerry world, 591 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:02.920 the Hanslim deal, in other words, getting the real estate 592 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.839 to development. Don't own a football team, get the big deal, 593 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.480 and the Brown family doesn't one do that. They want 594 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.519 to stay with football and believe or not, Troy and 595 00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.799 Katie are now in their fifties. That's getting old. At 596 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.240 some point you want to say, well, do I want 597 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.319 to keep beating my head against the wall. Let's cash 598 00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.240 out and make a lot of money, I mean a 599 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.000 lot of money and live in Palm Springs. You already 600 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.480 got a lot of money. They got a lot of money. 601 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.400 How much of a lot of money? In d thirty 602 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.200 million a year they make net plus the franchise values 603 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:33.680 four to five billion dollars. Well, what's left to buy? 604 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839 You know, a certain time in life, what's left to buy? 605 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.319 An all the stuff? You need? Another Lamborghini? 606 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:43.559 Yeah they're they're not Lambeau people anyway. He drives Chevyes, 607 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.160 which I like, what are you going to retire? 608 00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.319 I don't know. I like what I'm doing. I like 609 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.200 what you said you're getting old. Well, hell, we're all 610 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.720 getting old. Yeah that's not a standard. I like what 611 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.599 I'm doing get up in the morning. Penny said to me, 612 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.519 if you got up this morning and didn't do this, 613 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.519 what would you do? So I don't. She said, let's travel. 614 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.240 Let's go to Iceland, Let's go to Tanzania. I said, 615 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.799 what she wants to look at girafts. Let's go to Australia. 616 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.440 Look at the ding bats. That's that's on our agenda 617 00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:11.920 is Australia, New Zealand. I got the ding bats right here. 618 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.680 Why don't have to travel to look at it. My 619 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.839 last trip was Jerusalem and that was kind of it 620 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:17.880 for me. I'm kind of thinking, I don't want to travel. 621 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.720 You don't like to travel. I do like the travels 622 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:21.720 I don't like I like to travel. And Penny, like 623 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.960 I said, dear, have your girlfriends. A lot of girlfriends 624 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.400 have their husbands are dead. Have some money, go go 625 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.759 on a riverboat. She's got a riverboat cruise coming up. 626 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.359 I said, great, schedule another one. Do you agree? Yeah? 627 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.440 They're fun. I recommend them better better than on the ocean. 628 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.400 Rivers are a little more calmer than the oceans. Yeah. 629 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.279 And you're welcome here, Mike. Anytime you're on my Mount Rushmore. 630 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:47.519 There's only one living head left. That's me, Me, you, 631 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.279 Gary and Jim. That's it. You're on mine. I'm on 632 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.440 your Mount Musher. Who's on your Mount Rushmore? Other than 633 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.079 me and you? Who else is there? Hey? Gary? I 634 00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.000 put Trumpy and Gary up there. Trump is pretty big. 635 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.319 What about Jim Scott? You've got about the living legend? Yeah, 636 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.119 gotta put need more room like Trump on Mount Rushmore 637 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.319 needs some more heads, the fifth head, the fifth head, 638 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.039 all right, coming and do a few commercials and that it. Yeah, 639 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.039 go get some wall wall We got wah Wah. I 640 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.680 can't believe I missed that. I grew up on wah Wah. 641 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.559 I love Wah. I love going there. It's like breakfast, lunch, dinner. 642 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.559 It's a grocery store. It's fun. 643 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.000 Our little milk, milk cartons and grade school from wah 644 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.039 Wah day. They're right up the street. They're big in Philadelphia. Yeah, 645 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.039 well the dairy started first before they were convenience stores, 646 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:34.720 and the gas station thing is much more recent. 647 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.319 They were mainly convenience stores, know, and so now they're 648 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.599 going to open a couple of days. Yeah, up in 649 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.400 Butler County. I'll get there, you'll be there. My congratulations 650 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.640 on a career well led. Thank you very much. Good 651 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.079 to talk to you. God bless America. 652 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:47.680 See you later. 653 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:48.039 Thank you. 654 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:48.240 Mike. 655 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:49.880 He'll step in every now and then I think he'll 656 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.319 be back. He's only tricking us. He's tricking us, that's 657 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.480 what he's doing. I'll just continue with more after one o'clock. 658 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.440 That was in mid flight, but the Bengals Cincinnati deal 659 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.680 and Mike McConnell popped in any time, he's more than welcomed. 660 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.400 So let's continue with more and after one o'clock today 661 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.359 we'll be an expert on college camp is unrest and 662 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.359 what's happening? Robert Spencer wrote a book on it, and 663 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.640 where to send your kids? Or shall I say, we're 664 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.720 not to send your kids to college. You send them 665 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.960 off happy and healthy, they come back with hooks in 666 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:22.480 their noses, multi colored hair, wearing dresses and if they're boys, 667 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.519 and that's not the way things out to be. So 668 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.039 if you want to know where not to send your 669 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.559 kid to college, Robert Spencer will be up. Then later 670 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.400 on is art Ali about why not why not to 671 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:33.920 do business with China? His point is what we ought 672 00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:35.880 to do, he says, is to have like a cold 673 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.160 war as they headed with USSR between nineteen forty five 674 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.720 and nineteen ninety one. What forty six years of a 675 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.680 cold war hopefully then become a hot war because that's 676 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.400 a problem right now. China is a wounded bear. And 677 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.799 will they attack Taiwan? Will they shut down power grid 678 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.000 in this country? What will they do? Because they are 679 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.400 a wounded bear and the Shijhao ping done worry about 680 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.240 the midterms, doesn't worry about CNN commentary, doesn't worry about 681 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.079 headlines and newspapers, doesn't worry about someone's religion. Catholics and 682 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.039 Christians are murdered in China, and the wigers of Muslim 683 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.200 minority are in concentration camps and more so, we'll see 684 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.440 what happens there if the line becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 685 00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:23.000 seven thousand. Mike McConnell is back temporarily on news radio 686 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:33.920 seven hundred WLW by Bill Cunningham, The Great America and 687 00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.359 of course what Happened on October the seventh, twenty twenty three. 688 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.640 Is one of the stars on human history and authored 689 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.200 the book Anti Semitism, History and Myth. I want to share, 690 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.480 with Robert Spencer's permission, the first couple sentences, which I 691 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.000 think is very illustrative of what this issue deals with. 692 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.119 The Imas attack on Israel October the seventh, twenty twenty 693 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.799 three was one of the most inhumane jihad attacks ever 694 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.880 and reminiscent of the darkest days of the National Socialist 695 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:03.640 Germany Republic. The attackers, glorified in their savagery against the Jews, 696 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.200 invited each other to outdo one another to cruelty. Yet, 697 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.320 despite or perhaps because of the cruelty and the brutality 698 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.519 that attack unleashed in the past year and a half, 699 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.079 expressions of hatred for Jews that shocked those who assume 700 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.960 such hate was the thing in the past. And Robert Spencer, 701 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.039 welcome to the Bill Cunningham shows. Let's go back a 702 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.400 little bit in time as far as to hatred for 703 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.119 the Jews. Where did it begin, how did it begin, 704 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.159 and how did it metastasize to October the seventh. 705 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.760 Well, it begins way back before even the beginning of 706 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:41.480 Christianity in Pagan Rome, when the Romans were annoyed that 707 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.880 the Jews were not assimilating. And that's really been the 708 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.000 pattern ever since that the Jews throughout history wherever they've 709 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:53.960 been have maintained their distinct identity, their distinct beliefs, culture 710 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.400 and practices, and so they have run up against people 711 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:02.480 who were hostile to them for that eason all through history. Today, 712 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.960 the main source of anti Semitism is coming from the Left, 713 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.679 which as we know, it's ferociously collectivists. Do you think 714 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.119 about mouse China where everybody even wore the same clothes, 715 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.079 and that's the ideal for the left. That's equity. You 716 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.320 know that everybody's on the same level. And so they 717 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.039 don't like Israel and they don't like Jews for maintaining 718 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.239 once again those distinctive beliefs, culture and practices. And so 719 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.559 as the Left is making its big push in the 720 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.519 West of these days, it has become furiously anti Semitic 721 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:35.599 and anti Jewish. 722 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.159 As far as Christianity, I want to deal with that 723 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.280 separately for a moment, because I think largely we Christians 724 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.960 I'm a practicing Roman Catholic has overcome the vicious anti 725 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.000 Semitism that went on for about a thousand or maybe 726 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.519 fifteen hundred years or longer. The Jews in medieval France 727 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.519 or Germany weren't treated any better than the Hamas treated 728 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.320 the Jews. They were burned at the stake, they weren't 729 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.800 allowed into societies offer for one thousand and a half 730 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.480 years by Christians. And I heard the argument, the idea 731 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.199 that the Jews were quote the christ killers played a 732 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.360 part in that. And my boss is a Jewish carpenter, 733 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.800 and I purposely have engaged the practice of law in 734 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.880 Jewish law firms because I love, for some reason being 735 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.280 around Jews and it's wonderful faith and family commitment education. 736 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:29.400 But describe how Christians dealt with Jews until most recently 737 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.039 but even today that is a lot less. But describe 738 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.079 the relationship between Jews and Christians. 739 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.920 Well, you really hit the nail on the head there 740 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.360 bill saying that the Jews killed Christ and saw on 741 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.320 that was the plane. It's kind of weird that that 742 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.679 ever gained any currency, because, of course, we know as 743 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.480 Christians that the fundamental idea of Christianity is that it's 744 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.599 our sins that put Christ on the cross, and he 745 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.519 is on the cross as an expiation for our sins. 746 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.719 And so then to turn around and say, well, it's 747 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.000 the jews fault that he's on the cross contradicts. It 748 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:09.840 seems to me basic Christianity. And so that's one of 749 00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.280 the things that led to the fact that Christianity. Of 750 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:18.159 the four main causes of anti Semitism, Christianity, Islam, national socialism, 751 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:23.880 and international socialism, it's Christianity alone that repudiated anti Semitism 752 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.320 and rejected it at the highest levels in every Christian group. 753 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:31.880 That's an important comment to make Christians said, anti Semitism 754 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.320 is awful as terrible. It's a senate's a crime to 755 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.280 stop it. There's pockets that practice it, but not many, 756 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.960 unlike in the Islamic world. And I kind of liken 757 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.519 it to an extent to the founding this country. For 758 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.039 a long time, Jews were not part of the American 759 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.960 economic or democratic experience. Here in little Cincinnati, Ohio, there's 760 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.519 a Jewish hospital which is wonderful. There's Jewish private country 761 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.679 clubs which are great, and so over the generations. If 762 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.920 society did not let the jew in, they created their 763 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.239 own separate identities if permitted to do so, and flourished. 764 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.360 Is that correct? 765 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.480 Yeah, that's absolutely right, though. And the thing is is 766 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.360 that when they did that, then they were blamed for 767 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.960 holding out and not becoming part of the larger group, 768 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.199 and so it became kind of a vicious circle. 769 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.679 So where are we today. October seventh is applauded by 770 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.920 the radical left in this country. I watch on college campuses. 771 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.800 It's awful. And it's in the Midwest too, because the 772 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.679 University of Cincinnati, which is about ten miles from where 773 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.960 I broadcast from, had another incident a couple of days 774 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.599 ago where Hamas supporters were shouting down individuals. And it's 775 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.320 true in the Midwest, but it's metastasized more in Columbia 776 00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.239 and the large campuses UCLA, University of Chicago. It's worse there. 777 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.079 What is the current role of Islamic relations with Israel 778 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:49.800 and with the jew. 779 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.840 Well, of course there's tremendous hostility in the Islamic world 780 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.079 to Israel and the Jews, because it's the very existence 781 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:03.519 of Israel is an insult to Islam. Islam is a 782 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:09.880 very earthly religion that is expansionist, supremacist, aggressive and violent, 783 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.360 and it demands that Muslims wage war against unbelievers in 784 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.400 order to bring the world under the hegemony of Islamic law. 785 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.639 And the Quran teaches drive them out from where they 786 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.559 drove you out, which means any land that was once 787 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.360 ruled under Islamic law belongs by right to Muslims forever, 788 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.599 and the Muslims have to fight to get it back 789 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.559 if it is not being ruled under Islamic law. That 790 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.199 means that there is no Israel of any size that 791 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.840 would ever be acceptable to the Islamic world. And so 792 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:48.719 there's always going to be this war. There's no not 793 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.960 going to be a two state solution. There's not going 794 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:55.840 to be peace with Israel ever, because of these elements 795 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.480 of Islamic theology, and so as the campuses have become 796 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.920 dominated by the left, and the left sees Islam as 797 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:09.000 an ally, the Islamic anti Semitism has become mainstream on 798 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.480 the left, and we are seeing it increasingly virulent and 799 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.400 violent form on campuses all over the country. 800 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.239 Yeah, well, you present it rather a dark future, but 801 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.599 I think it's accurate. I can't conceive of Hamas or 802 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.039 Boca Haram or Talibam or Isis saying, you know what, 803 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.360 let's live separate apart Israel. You do your thing, We're 804 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.519 do ours. We're going to build up our society. We 805 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.760 want great schools, great colleges, we want great middle class 806 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.599 values in Gaza, and we're going to demonstrate to the 807 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.840 world how our way of thinking is better than yours. 808 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.159 And you point out that will never happen. Explain for 809 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:48.039 those who want to caute the two states solution, Explain 810 00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:49.199 why that will never happen. 811 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.119 Okay, if you've got the religious imperative, drive them out 812 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.679 from where they drove you out. Now you understand this 813 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.239 is not based on the idea that the Israelis actually 814 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.880 drove out the Arab Palestinians, although that is the claim, 815 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.039 It's false. The Arab Higher Committee told them to leave 816 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.840 in nineteen forty eight because they thought they would destroy 817 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.880 Israel quickly and then they could they would get the people, 818 00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.320 the civilians out of the way, and then they could 819 00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.079 go back home in a few weeks when Israel was gone. 820 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.960 But that didn't work out that way. Now, the fact is, though, 821 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.760 this idea drive them out from where they drove you out, 822 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.519 is based on the principle that I explained before that 823 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.719 any land that belonged to the Muslims belongs to the 824 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.760 Muslims forever, and so because the Muslims ruled the land 825 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.800 of Israel in the Middle Ages, they have a right 826 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.960 to it today. And so there is no agreement that 827 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.800 can be made between Israel and any Muslim states that 828 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.719 would allow Israel to exist indefinitely. If they did that, 829 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.039 then many Muslims would consider that to be against Islam 830 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.800 and would fight against the government that made the agreement. 831 00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.639 There is no Israel of any size that is acceptable 832 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.639 under these circumstances. And so as long as there are 833 00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.960 Muslims who believe in Islam and believe in the Koran, 834 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.360 then there can be no peace between those Muslims and Israel. 835 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:14.559 So you're saying, Robert Spencer, that the Qur'an orders that 836 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.800 adherent Muslims kill the jew wherever they might be located, 837 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:21.039 especially in Israel. 838 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.760 And that is the thing. It's not that every Muslim 839 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:28.760 is going to do that, but yes it is. It's 840 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.280 an imperative to wage war. Just as a matter of fact, 841 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.360 this morning, the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which is 842 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.159 just what it says, it is said that jihad against 843 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.679 Israel is an obligation on every Muslim in the world. 844 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.199 Well what is that? Because here in America there's a 845 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:48.920 little bit of wobble. But I live in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, 846 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.440 Northern Kentucky, there's not many Muslims. There's there's one big mosque, 847 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.559 and it's peaceful, it's quiet, except when exported from outside 848 00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:00.599 into this country. There's not too many examples of of 849 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.119 Muslim extremists killing Jews in America. Why is that the. 850 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.440 Case, Well, in America, they know that that would bring 851 00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:13.360 more trouble onto the Muslim community than it's worth. Essentially 852 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:18.760 that it's one thing to do it in a country 853 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.599 where the authorities will say, yes, good thing, you did that. 854 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.440 We hate the Jews too, you know, as in any 855 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.280 Muslim country where the Jews have actually been driven out 856 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:32.719 long ago, or in many places in Europe where the 857 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:36.159 authorities are afraid of the Muslims and are not going 858 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.159 to prosecute them seriously, as in Britain. And so it's 859 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:43.320 a different thing when you have, especially with the Trump 860 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.079 administration and power, you have a very different situation in 861 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.880 the United States. And so I don't think you're going 862 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.760 to see many Muslims, if any, heating the call of 863 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.719 the International Union of Muslim Scholars. 864 00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.119 But they still made it as consequences here other parts 865 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.920 of the world, there's no consequence. How about this theory. 866 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.719 I've had this for a while. Robert Spencer, author of 867 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.280 a great book anti Semitism, History and Myth, that the 868 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.719 Jew serves as a convenient scapegoat for the failures of 869 00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:15.239 Middle Eastern societies. About thirty seven of the forty Muslim 870 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.920 dominated societies in the world a terrible places to live. 871 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.400 You do not want to live in Jordan or Egypt 872 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.559 at middle class values, Aron, Iraq, Syria terrible places to live. 873 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.400 So the Jew is a convenient scapegoat for the failures 874 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.440 of the policies of the governing forces in Muslim countries 875 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.880 and so like in Gaza. Now there's a little bit 876 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.960 of a movement of the Palestinians living in Gaza saying 877 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.920 we can't live like this. It's awful, it's terrible to Hamas. 878 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.280 Look what Hamas has done to us. I understand that 879 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.199 the bodies of those who said such things in Gaza 880 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.559 were divided into pieces and put on their families doorstep. 881 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.360 That this is what happens in Gaza. When you say 882 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.199 that somehow Hamas should be taken out of leadership in Gaza, 883 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.760 which was about eighteen years ago, the Jew left Gaza 884 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.360 completely and said, okay, you're on your own. Billions of 885 00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.480 dollars flowed into Gaza. It was used to build tunnels 886 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.360 and bombs and missiles and rockets, not to improve the 887 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.559 society in Gaza. But as far as my thoughts about 888 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.400 Jews being convenient scapegoat for the failure of Muslim governments, 889 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:17.400 what's your reaction to that. 890 00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.159 Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And here again it 891 00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:25.000 goes back to the Koran, and the Koran says that 892 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.840 the Jews are the worst enemies of the Muslims, that 893 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.360 the strongest in enmity against those who believe will be 894 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.760 the Jews. And so anything bad happens, and as you noted, 895 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.320 the people, the anti Hamas people in Gaza are getting killed. 896 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.440 So anything bad happens, a lot of people they know, Well, 897 00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.320 we can't actually blame the government will get killed. We 898 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.840 can't speak out freely against this. The only thing we 899 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.079 can do is really blame the Jews. And this is 900 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.320 what the governments encourage themselves because it takes the heat 901 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:54.840 off them. 902 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.800 So you also have a few comments in your book 903 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.719 Anti Semitism History. Myth antisemitism leads to genocide in America 904 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.599 is not yet led there because we don't have virulent antisemitism. 905 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.840 There are scores a lot in America, but it's not 906 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.599 government sponsored. But in those countries that consider Jews to 907 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:18.679 be like rats and mice and cockroaches, anisseemitism does lead 908 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.320 to genocide, correct. 909 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.320 Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's obvious from history. It's not 910 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.960 just the Nazis, although they're the foremost example, but you 911 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.880 look all around the Middle East. There used to be 912 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:33.079 Jewish communities in pretty much every country, and they were 913 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:38.920 all completely eradicated after the nineteen forty eight when the 914 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.159 Jews in the various countries were blamed with, blamed for 915 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.000 and associated with the state of Israel and either killed 916 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:48.719 or forced out of the countries. 917 00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:52.360 And so the Middle East drained itself into Israel. Here's 918 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:56.960 the are you ready for the big question? Oh? Yeah, 919 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.400 where do we go from here? Because I look at 920 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.719 this point, Israel is an advanced society, in some ways 921 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.480 more advanced than America when it comes to military They 922 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:09.519 have vicious enemies all around them. Many Muslim Islami governments 923 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.719 will pay ransom to individuals that are dead who blew 924 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.159 themselves up to kill Jews. They're streets named after the 925 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.679 so called martyrs of Islam and so here we sit 926 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.320 in April of twenty twenty five. Can you tell me 927 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:24.199 how it ends. 928 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:26.039 Well. 929 00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.280 I don't think that it's going to end well. I 930 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.000 think that there's a fanatical hatred that's been loosed in 931 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.559 the world and it's going to play out, and I'm 932 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.719 hoping by this book to try to head off some 933 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.000 of the worst of it. Maybe that's ambitious to say 934 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.519 that one book can change things, but well, it's happened 935 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.639 before in history, and the crisis is very advanced now. 936 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.920 I think some people have dehumanized the Jews to such 937 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.719 an extent that they would welcome a new genocide. And 938 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.559 it's a very dangerous period we're in. 939 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.000 You know, one thing Hamas said the leadership in Amas, 940 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.599 who live like millions Airs by the way and Cutter 941 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.920 and other rich Middle Eastern countries, that they said that 942 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.679 they were asked, how come you locate your military basis 943 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.480 underneath hospitals? How come you put rockets and missiles inside schools? 944 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.480 And that's going to cause the unintended consequence of the 945 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.519 death of innocent men, women and children and Gaza And 946 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.440 the answer was, they are part of the jihad. They 947 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.239 should want to die because when you die in this fashion, 948 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.199 you have a special place in heaven. So Hamas and 949 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.800 many Islamic militants want to kill their own, their own children, 950 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:39.119 their own babies, by putting their military equipment inside facilities, 951 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.719 knowing what's going to be the reaction. Now, how sick 952 00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:45.719 is that most civilized societies avoid that, But Hamas and 953 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.719 bok of a Ram and others demand that you die, 954 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.639 your children be killed. And when the hostages came out, 955 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.599 most came out were treated horribly. They said, basically, they 956 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.840 consider us to be rice, kind of like rats in 957 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.079 the tunnels. So explain that theory that the Hamas will 958 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:06.960 act in a way that'll cause the death of their 959 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:07.480 own people. 960 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.960 Well, this is another thing that goes back to Islamic teaching, 961 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.239 and the Kuran actually says the Jews say that we 962 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.079 are Allaw's children and his beloved. Then let them love 963 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.760 death and that will prove see that they love a law, 964 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.480 that they love death. They prefer life with a law 965 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.559 in the next world to life in this world. And 966 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.159 the idea of love of death is something that jihadis 967 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.800 often refer to, saying we will win because we love 968 00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.280 death more than you love life. Like they're not afraid 969 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.880 to die. They are happy to die because then they'll 970 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.199 be with a law. And so they enforced that among 971 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.519 their people. And you know, I remember seeing a few 972 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:50.920 years back a guy who was going to go blow 973 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.079 himself up. He had a truck full of explosives, and 974 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.000 all his friends were outside the truck egging him on 975 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.679 and telling him he was soon going to be with 976 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.239 the virgins in paradise and how great it was and 977 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.639 so on, and the guy starts crying. He didn't want 978 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.639 to die. It's a natural impulse to love life and 979 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.480 to want to be alive. That's a basic human impulse. 980 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.559 But his loom fights against it. 981 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.840 It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life. 982 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:18.960 And I don't see how it ends well. But thanks 983 00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.320 for the book. Robert Spencer. Book is anti Semitism, history 984 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.039 and myth. It's everywhere. And Robert Spencer, once again, thank 985 00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.159 you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, setting the 986 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.480 record straight. Thank you very much, Robert, what pleasure, Bill, 987 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.000 Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more. As 988 00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.400 I say, often, the truth will set us all free. 989 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:37.960 Go cunning Him every Day News Radio. 990 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:43.559 Seven hundred twenty seconds left, one more snap for Desmond 991 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.960 Ritter and the UC bear Cats. He takes the snap, 992 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.280 he takes a knee, he pumps his vest, and the 993 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:57.800 celebration begins at Notre Dame Stadium. Opportunity seized as the 994 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.840 bear Cats send a message to the college football world. 995 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.920 Did you see that? 996 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.400 Cincinnati wins it twenty four to thirteen? 997 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:17.960 Hell hello, hello, by it I'm broadcasting. 998 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:21.559 Right guy. 999 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.320 Second, clearly that was a moment in time, but they 1000 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.920 did not win the national title. We now have in 1001 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:33.639 the studio the Bearcat National Division one golf disc team? 1002 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:34.840 Is that correct? Discolf? 1003 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:35.440 You know? 1004 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.639 And Tom Young you're like the spokesman, introduce these other 1005 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:40.719 fine athletes you see fonni one something. 1006 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:44.440 Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I'm Thomas Young. I'm the president of 1007 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.280 the club. You'rect Donald Trump right there, he's the president. Yeah, 1008 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:48.760 there you go. 1009 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.400 I put tariffs on other teams. Tariff zager, aren't you? 1010 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:53.800 Yeah? 1011 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:56.400 I'm joined with the A team here. Who's the D 1012 00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.119 one Champs? 1013 00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:59.880 D one Champs? You have c Bearcats win it all 1014 00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.559 in disc golf, got three of the four here. Sadly, 1015 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.119 Lucas Boca Song cannot join us today. But is he 1016 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.119 in rehabb But what's he doing? He's a class, he's 1017 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:08.440 a skip class. 1018 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.440 Played the Masters. Yes, he's been drinking heavily after that. 1019 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.599 I can't find him. Now introduce you're right? 1020 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:15.320 Yeah, absolutely. 1021 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.159 I got Brad Caldwell over here on my right called 1022 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.719 well Brad and microphone. Know where'd you grow up? If anywhere? 1023 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.400 I'm from Cincinnati. So I grew up in Anderson, the. 1024 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:24.800 Home of the Redskins. Shall I say that? 1025 00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:24.960 Oh? 1026 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.440 Yeah, they're still there, still there? Yeah, that was my 1027 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:29.519 senior year. They changed that. 1028 00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.000 What position did you play on in disc golf? What 1029 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.679 is there? Positions? Backer? 1030 00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.320 Thirds throw the frisbee? 1031 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.320 And you are a young man? Yeah, I'm Tanner young. 1032 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.800 So I grew up in the Colrain area here in Cincinnati. 1033 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.119 G ed from Colraine High School right there, let's go 1034 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.960 so and also your name, yeah it's ill can grow. 1035 00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.239 I literally grew up like five minutes down the road. 1036 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.800 So yeah, I'm right nearby. Uh listening to seven hundred 1037 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.039 doll my hear this? I like that. That's unbelieved. 1038 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.199 So tell me about about how do you win the 1039 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.280 disc go the disc Disco Tennis Golf All Time Championship? 1040 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:05.920 What happened? 1041 00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.639 Yeah, so it basically starts all the way back in 1042 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.679 August September, where you have to start with a couple 1043 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.400 of college rated events and then you get kind of 1044 00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.639 team ratings from there, and if you get a good 1045 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.880 enough qualifying round, then you get a D one and 1046 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.760 a D two bid. We were lucky enough to get 1047 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.719 our D one bid on our very first go at it, 1048 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.000 and since then we were kind of dominating. 1049 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.719 We didn't lose a single event after that point. 1050 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:28.519 Tell me how you play? How do you put a 1051 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.480 put a basket on a tree somewhere. 1052 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.679 That it's a it's a metal it's a metal cage 1053 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:35.360 that has a top of a bottom and then chains 1054 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.400 dangling down from it. Okay, and so you place it 1055 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:39.079 basically in a field in the woods, and then you 1056 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.000 take turns throwing like different strokes, just like golf. You 1057 00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:43.679 start from the tea pad, you throw it down and 1058 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.000 you try to get it into the bath. 1059 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.920 How did you develop these skills? How long did it take? Yeah? 1060 00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.199 I started like twenty twenty, so it's been like four 1061 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.119 or fourish years. Yeah, lifting up clearly clearly not that 1062 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.760 it's just a lot, it's just a lot of forum work. Yeah, 1063 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.199 hours upon hours of budding practice. Yeah, it's a lot 1064 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.000 of work. Yeah, it's a lot of work to win 1065 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.519 the national title. The friendly confines to put up the 1066 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:06.679 country club should happen. 1067 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.400 Yeah, yeah, how who'd you play? What other teams did 1068 00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.800 you beat? Get to the top? You see, he's finally 1069 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:13.400 won something. 1070 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.000 Yes, so we beat you and c North Carolina. We 1071 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:21.440 beat Charlotte, Kentucky, Ohio State dating all the local teams 1072 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:22.800 from around here pretty much. 1073 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.280 Imagine. Yep, you get a scholarship, you have money, nil money, 1074 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:28.719 you got cheerleaders? What do you got? 1075 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.519 Not yet? But next year maybe you never. 1076 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.039 Does you see? No, you won the national title. 1077 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:34.639 I believe. 1078 00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.079 So we did have an interview with the news guys. 1079 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.480 So you see news guy, it wasn't on the front. 1080 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:41.840 Did anyone care when you came back? Do you have a parade? 1081 00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.760 We got a post on Instagram? So how about a ring? 1082 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:45.480 You got the rings? 1083 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.199 No, we got little trophies though. 1084 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.760 Many you see is cheap. Yeah, I mean get a 1085 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:54.880 parade and get it. Get a ring. 1086 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:58.519 Well, we told the dodgeball champs from Miami they got 1087 00:54:58.559 --> 00:54:59.400 to get recognized. 1088 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.760 I lo put the heat on you see to recognize 1089 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:02.480 she's get done. 1090 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.719 You know it's a national championship. Well, I don't care 1091 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.119 what if it's a disc golf, basketball or whatever. 1092 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.559 These guys need to be recogn You know, my brother 1093 00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:16.079 is John Cunningham athletic. You know who he is. No, 1094 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.360 I don't think so. No, he's the athletic director. You see, 1095 00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:21.280 he's probably sports. 1096 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.280 We're club sports. Club sports is completely different. We get 1097 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:24.199 even less recognition. 1098 00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:25.320 You get nothing, you get nothing. 1099 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.719 But we had Tim White is our guy, is the 1100 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:29.119 big club. 1101 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.800 But doesn't John Town to get with it, have control 1102 00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:33.440 over D one disc golf is. 1103 00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.800 No because so it's D one for uh for college 1104 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.199 disc golf. But it's still technically considered a club sport. 1105 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:40.960 It's not like we don't have divisions, Like we don't 1106 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.199 have a big twelve O. You beat everybody, but we 1107 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.760 beat everybody in basically undefeated, tied. 1108 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:50.360 Unscored on Yeah, unbelievable. Andy Mack. How about nil money? 1109 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:55.239 I need no money, no no, no, need a gas card, 1110 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:56.079 not nil money. 1111 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.760 You go to Wall Wall, go to wallall here he's 1112 00:55:58.760 --> 00:55:59.840 sponsored by disc craft. 1113 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.960 Really you got sponsors already? Yes I do. 1114 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.320 Yeah, the money and disc golf go. 1115 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:07.800 To Wall Wall. They're gonna open up in a couple 1116 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:09.280 of days. Get some wa Wall money. You know what 1117 00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.079 I do not neither do I segment. 1118 00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.559 Willy the future Porters, sprout service of your local Tame 1119 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.920 Star heating and air conditioning dealers. 1120 00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:21.360 Tame Star quality you can feel in beautiful Cincinnati. 1121 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.679 Cal Sheldon Braun at Braun Heating at five one, three, three, eight, five, 1122 00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:31.400 seventy seven sixty five. Thank you, Roxy, Willie Hunter Green 1123 00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.119 Dealing yesterday struck out eight walked one, Reds blank doose 1124 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.119 Pirates four nil to take, get out the brooms and sweep. 1125 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:41.159 And now they Reds have the day off today. I 1126 00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:45.480 understand they're golfing because of you can't say Kenwood can't 1127 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.840 say they have the day off. And they the Seattle 1128 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:52.039 Mariners come to town tomorrow night to pitching matchup former 1129 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:56.920 Red Luis Castillo, the Nick Lodolo rest of one five 1130 00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.440 of the last six, and the Mariners of Mariners, who 1131 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.679 just came off a sweep of the Texas Rangers at home. 1132 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:04.960 They're eight and eight and they've won four to row. 1133 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.639 We've got two teams Mariner's playing tough. The Reds have 1134 00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:11.079 played ten percent of their schedule already I see. 1135 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.960 Roy McElroy yesterday with a birdie on the first hole 1136 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.920 of a playoff, beating Justin Rose to win the green 1137 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.199 jacket and the Masters for the first time. 1138 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:24.400 Tom Young, could you beat McIlroy in disc golf? Absolutely 1139 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.719 without a doubt. Let's try something. I'll get ahold of 1140 00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.079 Augusta National. Let's get down there in the Masters. Orry, 1141 00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:30.639 I'm calling you out right now. Let me see those 1142 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:33.760 four guys running around eighteen but the disc golf along 1143 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.880 with that last ye head shots, head shots there. 1144 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.599 They threw the guy out for wearing shorts the other day, right, 1145 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:41.440 and not a guy do anything to the guy that 1146 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.000 h relieved received himself in race creek. 1147 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.239 Can you see pulling raised creek and just relieving yourself. 1148 00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:49.679 You guys haven't done that? Have you playing on the 1149 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:51.679 course and you gotta go and you gotta go and 1150 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.800 never never of course not. Yeah. See, these guys got 1151 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.159 golf etiquet. They're good in line too. Please continue. 1152 00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.159 Well, we also want to thank h wah wah speaking 1153 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.360 of them, wah wah their first store coming up in 1154 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:08.159 Ohio on April the sixteenth, the first store in Ohio 1155 00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:09.280 and Liberty Township. 1156 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.559 That guy went Ppe at wahwah. 1157 00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.679 They went see grand opening specials April sixteenth through twenty seventh. 1158 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.639 The doors open on what is it Wednesday? Will you 1159 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:20.519 be there at eight am? Will you be there eight 1160 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:21.360 o'clock in the morning. 1161 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:24.880 I'll be here, will he sorry? Ribbon cutting at nine am. 1162 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:27.320 So they got a lot of specials and they're going 1163 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:28.840 to open up a lot of stores. 1164 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.679 Around the area. Wa so wah wah, we welcome you 1165 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:32.920 to Ohio. Thomas. 1166 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.599 You know what is only from the TikTok ads that 1167 00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.679 they get only what is a wah wah? I get 1168 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.559 that at all the time. So I do actually know. 1169 00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.079 What By your age, you should know that it's an experience. 1170 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:45.840 It's an experience. You go there, you get some gas. 1171 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.320 What do you get seg man lunch? Breakfast? Apparently? 1172 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.840 Will you they got excellent sandwiches we had on today 1173 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:54.679 some today they had they had you got sandwiches, they 1174 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:56.360 got pizza, they got. 1175 00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:01.639 Everything you guys eat, pea got cookies everything. Cincinnati Date Road. 1176 00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.199 It opens on the Wednesday, doors open at eight, Ribbon cutting, 1177 00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.239 ceremony festivities at nine. 1178 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:08.639 These guys are flat Belly. 1179 00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.760 Seventy one ninety eight Cincinnati Date road and liberty twip. 1180 00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:13.599 Do you work out to play disc golf? Do you 1181 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.280 like run marathons? Get loosed? 1182 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.880 You lift weights, you get stretched flexing? What is the 1183 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.719 main skill in disc golf? You won the national title? 1184 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.639 Many people want to know how'd you get it done? 1185 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:23.280 I don't know. 1186 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.119 I mean, honestly, just kind of get out on the field, 1187 00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:27.880 throw as many times as you possibly can till your 1188 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.800 arm gets sore, and that's about it. 1189 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:31.960 That's what that's outretch pitching. You just got there. 1190 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:35.039 So there's not eighteen holes like there are eighty hos, yes, 1191 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:37.320 and you can throw as many times as you want 1192 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:38.159 each hole, but you're. 1193 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:39.639 Trying not to throw it that many times. 1194 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:41.320 You know, one time you get a point, then you 1195 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:43.599 go to the next hole. Not quite like that. It's 1196 00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:45.519 literally the same as golf board, exactly the same as 1197 00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.840 golf stroke play. You start the yep, got eighteen baskets? 1198 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:51.800 Throw that and how far away are you when you 1199 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:57.039 start throwing? From one hundred and fifty to thousand? Really, yes, sir, 1200 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.039 like three hundred and thirty yards one thousand? Yeah, yeah, 1201 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.639 that would be five. And then if you throw it 1202 01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:05.760 in one, can you throw it in one? Not on 1203 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:08.159 a five. Now, let's say you stopped here, here's the frise. 1204 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.199 I'm sorry for a disc, I'm sorry, segment disk, Get 1205 01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:11.960 it right, get it right? 1206 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.000 Then you stop, Then you throw it again. Yeah, you 1207 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.559 throw it again. You should take five throws to get there. 1208 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:20.119 Theoretically, Yeah, theoretically, and a part three would be how 1209 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.159 long anywhere from? Like, yeah, one hundred and fifty to 1210 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.079 hundred feet? So why do you beat all these teams? 1211 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:24.440 What? 1212 01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:24.840 What is it? 1213 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:24.960 What? 1214 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.800 Why do you beat them? Why do you beat everybody? 1215 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:27.239 Uh? 1216 01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.920 Well, we actually throw the farthest probably of any team 1217 01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:31.719 in the nations collectively. 1218 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:32.280 Like d Schambeau. 1219 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.199 Yeah, exactly, exactly right. Pudding can sometimes be our weakness. 1220 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.119 If we're putting good, right, great, putting good, we're always 1221 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:40.320 gonna out throw everybody else. 1222 01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:40.880 What's pitting? 1223 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:40.960 Well? 1224 01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:42.679 What do you mean putting? What do you do? Just 1225 01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.400 like putting around the green and golf? You know, how 1226 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.679 close do you get for a putt? 1227 01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.840 Anything within like forty five feet i'd say is a putt? 1228 01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:49.159 Yeah? 1229 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:50.440 How big? How big is the basket? 1230 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.280 How wide it's about I'd say two two feet? 1231 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:55.320 Why really it takes us? 1232 01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:55.599 You know? 1233 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:57.920 How high is it off? The ground. I see the 1234 01:00:58.039 --> 01:00:59.480 four or five feet Yeah, well the. 1235 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.639 Top of the cage probably, and you have to throw 1236 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:02.920 it up to go in, and just going to the 1237 01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.280 side quite a bit of power, and people are cheering 1238 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:08.000 and going nuts. 1239 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.760 They get with you on the field of honor and 1240 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.480 walk with you for some of. 1241 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:13.400 Our final holes at the bigger tournaments. 1242 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.360 Yeah, there is sometimes a decent gallery. 1243 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:18.840 But if I set things up at Kenwood Country Club 1244 01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.079 with Dan plunkin the general manager, will you guys come 1245 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.440 and do some dish throwing at Kenwood Country Club? You 1246 01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:29.039 would like that, wouldn't you look like avon fielders? 1247 01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:34.199 And how big that goes? Over and see membership committee. 1248 01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:40.280 You got these four disc golf They're gonna throw it 1249 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:42.719 at you, is what they're gonna do. I'll be You'll 1250 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:44.960 grown out in the front of the head. So next 1251 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:46.760 year you get ready, are you four guys coming back? 1252 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.079 You see national champions. 1253 01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.119 I'm not I'm graduating, but the three of them are 1254 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:51.320 the guys. What do you want to be when you 1255 01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.199 grow up? I'm actually an aerospace engineer. Yeah, I got 1256 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:55.440 an aerospace engineer. 1257 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:57.880 Blue Warriors it just went up this morning. You see 1258 01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.239 the blue thing horizon went up in this four or 1259 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.840 five ladies came back. So what's the next step if 1260 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.760 you're an aeronautical engineer? What do you do? 1261 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.800 So I'm actually moving out to Denver in a couple 1262 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.280 of months. I'm working for a company called ursa major 1263 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.039 doing some design and manufacturing work for a like a 1264 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:13.719 small American engine company. 1265 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.000 That guy's got a shot a life right there behind 1266 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.079 these three dearrelks to kind of continue your Europe pretty much. 1267 01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:22.760 How do you get to recruit guys to come try 1268 01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:23.280 for the team? 1269 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:23.559 Yeah? 1270 01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.360 So usually the guys that are like, for example, Ilkin 1271 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.519 came he was he was well known in the disc 1272 01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.800 golf community before coming to college. They're like a star, Like, yeah, 1273 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.519 he definitely is a star. Way that this guy's a 1274 01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:35.719 star in the disc community. 1275 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.679 Absolutely, I mean I I. 1276 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.719 Don't see that. I'm you're a star in the disc community. 1277 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:41.519 How does that mean? 1278 01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:42.760 I can you want? 1279 01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:43.760 You want to talk about your wins? 1280 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:44.000 Yeah? 1281 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:44.679 About your wins? 1282 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:45.000 Yeah? 1283 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.159 I won the US Amateur Championship in twenty twenty two 1284 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.760 and then the Junior World Championship in twenty twenty two 1285 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:56.800 as well, So that excuse me, might lessons? 1286 01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:59.159 Wow, So you're like do you get paid to come. 1287 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.079 No, I think get paid to come here, but I 1288 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.800 do play tournaments for money at this point. So thankfully 1289 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.320 the college you're if you make like if you're not 1290 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.159 on tour basically, so I'm not traveling to play disc golf. 1291 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.960 I'm allowed to still play for the college, but I 1292 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:12.639 do play a bunch of. 1293 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.960 You got a future? Is there a professional life? 1294 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.599 And I've got a bunch of friends who are on 1295 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.719 the tour. They make a tour, yeah right, oh yeah, 1296 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.079 they're starting to the top three or four. Guys make 1297 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.320 multimillion dollars a year. There's definitely a there's definitely a spot, 1298 01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:28.719 just not. 1299 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.000 As stupid as I thought. Guys make a million dollars 1300 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:33.320 there throwing disc golf. 1301 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:37.039 Yeah that's your future, hopefully, I hope it is. 1302 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.119 Me and Bradley don't exactly have our futures as figured 1303 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.760 out as a Yeah, what what's the square root of 1304 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:47.960 eighty one nine? 1305 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.320 Not me? 1306 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:53.840 Who's the Attorney General the United States of America, Bradley, 1307 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:58.719 that's Macelroy. Isn't Bondim Bondy. 1308 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.199 So guys can congratulations. 1309 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:05.079 Millions of dollars to be a professional disc golfer and 1310 01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:05.679 that's your goal. 1311 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:07.039 Uh, it's not, Michael. 1312 01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.760 Actually no, I I hate traveling, so I couldn't be 1313 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:10.199 on the store. 1314 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:11.679 I'm also an engineer. 1315 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.960 I'm just in my second year, so I'm I'm on 1316 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.559 the track for that and I'll just play disc golf 1317 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:15.880 for fun. 1318 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:17.639 What do you want to be when you grow that's 1319 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:18.280 a good question. 1320 01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:19.519 Brand you. 1321 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.159 Guys want to drink beer and chase girls. 1322 01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:23.719 That's the goal. 1323 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:28.400 Thank you, guys. Congratulations, we've had the We've had the 1324 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.599 Miami National. You gotta win. Come back next year. Who's good. 1325 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.280 You're gonna be the captain next year. You think the 1326 01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.280 captain and lead the ship. Come on back next year. 1327 01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:40.159 If you win the national title again, you're more than 1328 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.800 welcome here. Thank Let's do it. Unbelievable. We'll give you 1329 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.000 some way. You want a T shirt, we'll get you. 1330 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:52.679 That'll be your prize. Yeah, there's your first sponsor right there. 1331 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.199 John Cunningham's got to know my brothers got to know 1332 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.679 about this team. Become a professional team, kind of like 1333 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.320 the UC football team that stinks or the best about 1334 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.559 team segment. Get me on suture part. We got the champions. 1335 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:06.840 Willian and Hunter of the University of Cincinnati Bearcats National 1336 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:08.880 disc golf champions. 1337 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.440 Undefeated, untied on scored on. 1338 01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.000 More than they beat, more than eighty schools. Unbelievable across 1339 01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.840 three to you guys need some publicity, you get with it. Clifton, 1340 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.880 come on, come on, Cunningham. We leave you with the 1341 01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:24.119 immortal words of the Stood Report. 1342 01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.760 Always good to be with you, Bill, see you later. 1343 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:28.559 I talked to the Governor and by the way, I 1344 01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:30.880 called him during the break he said, I'm with j D. 1345 01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.840 Say hello, I said, j D. How you doing? Man? 1346 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:35.639 He said, good? I come back on the show, he said, 1347 01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:37.760 he would. I think I have the governor on tomorrow. 1348 01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:39.920 We'll get the governor. Get these guys wrecking. You got 1349 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.760 need some money? You need some right like the Bengals 1350 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:43.400 need a Bengals. 1351 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.159 They're giving sixty six hundred and sixty million to Cleveland. 1352 01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.719 Let's give these guys a couple of mill Yeah, this guy, 1353 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:50.960 you're going to be a star except dis golf. 1354 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:57.039 Will you accept the money? Good luck, guys, have a parade, 1355 01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:59.880 get the rings, you got everything. Congratulations on a life 1356 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.239 we all live now. Become great engineers, yes, sir, and 1357 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.960 thank you, thank you, and or teachers and derelks whatever 1358 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:06.440 it might be. 1359 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:07.239 Segment. 1360 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.159 Thank you very much. You're welcome. I let's continue with 1361 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.239 more coming up after the break. Is an experts how 1362 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.960 we see on China American relations and what we should 1363 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:30.119 do on news Radio seven hundred WULW by Bill cunning 1364 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:32.199 in The Great American. Of course, what's happening out between 1365 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.079 the United States and China is a great concern. It 1366 01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.320 appears the largest tariff, about one hundred and twenty five percent, 1367 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:40.280 is going to be used against China, which is going 1368 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.679 to hurt them a lot more than their tariffy's going 1369 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.440 to hurt us. But nonetheless, one has to examine the 1370 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.719 kind of government we're dealing with. We can't agree everything, 1371 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:52.079 but I think Canada and Mexico, the EU certainly more 1372 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:54.639 in line with our values, so to speak, than what 1373 01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:58.920 happens in Communists read China and Art to Ali is 1374 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.760 called the tim Plan, which applies Christian responsible investing to everything, 1375 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:08.639 including the Chinese Communist Party in China. And first of all, 1376 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:11.599 Art Alli, welcome, I think for the first time to 1377 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:14.239 the Bill Cunningham Shaw heart and to understand that you're 1378 01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.559 a good friend of Ken Blackwell. It's been a friend 1379 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:18.400 of mine for a very long time. I see Ken 1380 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:20.320 on the road now and then, so you must be 1381 01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:24.239 a great American. But first of all, let's describe what 1382 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:28.039 is China today, because we anticipate that there's somehow they 1383 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.119 think they're going to take over the world. They float 1384 01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.599 hot air balloons over the top of us, they have 1385 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.199 fed all over the country. Supposedly, they have malware and 1386 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.119 all of our important communication systems. 1387 01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:41.280 They're not our friend. Art described China as it is 1388 01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:42.320 constituted today. 1389 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:46.000 Well, they're a communists nation and they always think they're 1390 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.960 going to take over the world, and at times it 1391 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:54.920 looks like they might, but not Now. You know, Communism, 1392 01:07:55.519 --> 01:08:00.199 as you well know I am sure, is a i'm 1393 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:05.079 a system that is destined to failure every single time. 1394 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.400 But you know, we do have a Timothy plan. We've 1395 01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:15.280 got nineteen different funds, one of which is an international fund, 1396 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:20.479 and all of them are managed by outstanding money management firms. 1397 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:25.159 But we do the research in house to tell them 1398 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:29.479 what they cannot own for our shareholders. And when it 1399 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:33.159 comes to China, I kind of tried to figure a 1400 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:37.039 way around it years ago and said, well, you know, 1401 01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.199 if it's privately owned company, and you like it, maybe 1402 01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.119 we can invest in it, but if it's communist owned, 1403 01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.960 we will not touch it with a ten foot pole. 1404 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.760 And then you know, I finally came to the understanding 1405 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:56.079 and conclusion. Man, when you're under communism, they control everything, 1406 01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:58.880 no matter who things, they own it. So we will 1407 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.920 not invest in any company in China. 1408 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.119 What about American company so to speak, I'm thinking of 1409 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:09.159 Apple or Tesla that have deep connections with the Chinese government. 1410 01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.279 I have an Apple Phone. I don't drive a Tesla, 1411 01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:14.680 don't care much for evs, I like hybrids, I like 1412 01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.800 Chevy Blazers. How do you respond to those who are 1413 01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.159 like an Apple, that have deep connections or Walmart gets 1414 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:23.239 many of their products from China. How do you work 1415 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:24.239 around that if at all? 1416 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:26.960 Well, you know, we screen out Apple for a one 1417 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:30.359 hundred different reasons. And I too have an Apple phone 1418 01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:35.159 because there's the real choice. But Chinese communism, they may 1419 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.039 give concessions at all, but they don't run that company. 1420 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:41.680 You know, it's an American company, it's run here, it's 1421 01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:45.720 not controlled by the communists. But you know, you're right, 1422 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.239 we have been so careless for so many years on 1423 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.279 allowing them to steal our technology and they thought, you know, 1424 01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.600 it's a huge market. It's a huge market because they've 1425 01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.279 got more people than any other nation on Earth. But 1426 01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:03.560 it's a very poor nation and economically they're hurting. 1427 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:06.399 Well they are. And I've had Kevin o'larry, who's mister 1428 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.880 Wonderful on CNBC, etc. Talk about not one hundred and 1429 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:13.000 twenty five percent tariff on communist red China. He wants 1430 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.680 to make it four hundred percent. And Kevin o'lary and 1431 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.079 Elon Musk has said the same thing. They lie, cheat 1432 01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:21.159 and steel. There's no functional court system. You have no 1433 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.760 rights except those given to you by the government. If 1434 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.520 you object to something, good luck, there's nowhere to go. 1435 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.880 It's a closed system. Property rights don't exist. You may 1436 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.319 think you have property, but you do not. They can 1437 01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:35.840 take it over in a heartbeat. And also on the 1438 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.880 issue of organ harvesting, this is an issue we'll talk 1439 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.600 about the Wigers in a moment, which is the obliteration 1440 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.119 of a religious minority. There's no Catholic or Christian churches 1441 01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:51.319 allowed to function in China. And talk about the harvesting 1442 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:54.840 the organ's inmates and others, of course against their will. 1443 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.000 And that's not well covered either, is it. 1444 01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.600 Oh man, No, it is not in your right on man. 1445 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.239 There's so much evil that comes out of that regime 1446 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:10.680 because human rights are only in a communist nation, whatever 1447 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.279 whoever sitting on the throne decides are going to be 1448 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.760 And so organ harvesting that's not a problem for them. 1449 01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.720 Production of fentanyl, that's not a problem for them. In 1450 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:26.000 order to take over the world, you have to kind 1451 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:31.239 of erode the pillars and foundations upon which any nation 1452 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.159 is founded. And you know, organ harvesting is I mean, 1453 01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:38.640 these people ought to be skinned alive for doing that. 1454 01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:41.960 But the fentanyl, you know, they're the source of that. 1455 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.520 They were the source of this. Well I don't want 1456 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.520 to get too critical, but this made up pandemic that 1457 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.239 we had with the COVID that proved that the government 1458 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:55.119 can control everything. It never controlled me, never control our church, 1459 01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:58.840 never control Timothy Plan. But too many people just kind 1460 01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:02.439 of saluted and stood in line on that. But China 1461 01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.359 was you know, they're the source of a lot of evil. 1462 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:11.760 And why Buddy would want to invest there is beyond me. 1463 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.560 But there are some of our our I can't call 1464 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.720 them peers, but you know, our competitors that don't do 1465 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:21.399 the moral screening. Man. They have no problem investing in 1466 01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:23.159 China if they think they can make. 1467 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:23.960 A buck out of it. 1468 01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:27.600 But you know, at what price are you willing to 1469 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:31.159 give up your moral values for me? At my house, 1470 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.239 we're not at all willing to give them up. 1471 01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:35.520 And you've said in your writings that when you look 1472 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.319 at what China's done to America, whether it's one hundred 1473 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.800 thousand Americans killed every year from fentanyl imported from China, 1474 01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.079 we talk about hot air balloons rolling over the top 1475 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:48.640 of the country that Biden allowed to occur. You have 1476 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:52.319 buying thousands of acres of land around US military bases. 1477 01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:56.920 You have the COVID coming manufactured by the Chinese, and 1478 01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:00.239 by the way, American taxpayers helped to create co with 1479 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.560 the virus inside the lay of COVID nineteen in Wuhan, 1480 01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.319 and no one's been hell to account for that. It 1481 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.359 is a massive communist enterprise, which, unlike the USSR that 1482 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:15.800 had missile technology, this particular communist ideation is a strong 1483 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:20.279 economic power and has a military on the ascendency. Why 1484 01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.159 did America get in bed with China in the first place, 1485 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.640 which you know, thirty five years ago because of so 1486 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:31.520 called free trade, we encouraged our manufacturing companies others to 1487 01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.840 move to China, and then thirty years later we're left 1488 01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:38.920 with this Why did we go down this route at all? 1489 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.840 I guess it's the same reason Bill that my dad, 1490 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.359 he always told me when I was growing up. He's 1491 01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:49.680 her son. It's always about the money. And unfortunately in 1492 01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.640 America we have chased that almighty dollar, which isn't so almighty. 1493 01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.680 But I am thrilled with the fact that we have 1494 01:13:57.760 --> 01:13:59.880 a new Sheri up in town that is trying to 1495 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.920 straightened out one hundred years of incompetent feelings, and a 1496 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.640 lot of that had to do with China. So I'm 1497 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.600 with these other guys man slap a four hundred percent 1498 01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:16.079 eight hundred percent terraiff. They are going to collapse from within. 1499 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:21.359 We don't need to help fund an extension of time 1500 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.800 for that regime to experience a failure. They're going to effect. 1501 01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:30.159 But you know, bottom line, we can philosophy about nationalism 1502 01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.720 and all the rest, but the bottom line is every 1503 01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:39.520 single person is responsible for their own behavior, and so 1504 01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:43.239 that's why the Timothy Plan exists. I wish we could 1505 01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.239 change America. We're having a bit of an impact. But 1506 01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.000 even if we can't, our purpose is to give people 1507 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:55.560 an opportunity to invest according to their convictions and not 1508 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.319 be concerned they're getting into bed with people like China 1509 01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:04.319 or American corporations that are involved in abortion, pornography and 1510 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.439 promoting LGBTQ. I mean, American corporations are nearly as guilty 1511 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.239 as some of the Chinese ones are. 1512 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.000 Let's say you're a practicing Roman Catholic or a Christian, 1513 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:20.000 or if you're a Jew, God forbid in China, and 1514 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.359 what would happen to a religious person to say, you 1515 01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:24.119 know what, I want to go to church, I want 1516 01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.640 to build a synagogue, I want to get a mosque. 1517 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.000 And there's a Muslim minority called the Wigers that are 1518 01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:34.239 being obliterated by the Chinese government. What religious rights or 1519 01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:37.159 freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, 1520 01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:40.880 do process rights? A functional court system? More or less? 1521 01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.359 What if that does an individual Chinese man or woman 1522 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.960 have if they want to want to praise the Lord? 1523 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:47.640 What happens? 1524 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:52.279 They have zero rights to do that in China and 1525 01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:57.199 Chinese have no The regime has no problem of wiping 1526 01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:58.199 those people. 1527 01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:58.880 Out, killing them. 1528 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:03.239 But I'll tell you this. The Christians in China are 1529 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:07.199 stronger and better Christians than the Christians in America because 1530 01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.720 for us it's too easy. You don't have you know, 1531 01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:12.159 they put it on the line for their faith and 1532 01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:16.159 so their faith is real where ours has gotten way 1533 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.279 too shallow. But that's a subject for another day. But no, 1534 01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:23.960 you have no rights over there. And as a result 1535 01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:27.479 of that, you've got a communist regime that is making 1536 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:33.840 everybody equally poor, independent and they think that that is 1537 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.319 the answer to them being in control of everything, but 1538 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:38.720 it cannot last. 1539 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.239 Well, you know, I look at this thing and I'm thinking, 1540 01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:45.000 you know myself, that something bad. They have power in 1541 01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:48.399 a sense over Taiwan. They have power in a sense 1542 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:53.079 all the malware they've put in utility companies and communication devices. 1543 01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:56.119 There's certain things they can do to us indirectly because 1544 01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.840 we've allowed it to happen. And if China's pushed into 1545 01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.640 a corner and there it's pushed up against the wall, 1546 01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:05.439 do you fear them lashing out by shutting off parts 1547 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.039 of our communication system, our water systems. They can shut 1548 01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.760 down universities or hospitals, shut down businesses. Are you concerned 1549 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.000 about They're reality using their malware. 1550 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.720 They certainly have the capacity and ability to do that. 1551 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.239 Whether it happens or not, I don't know know that. 1552 01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:26.920 You know, I'm not trying to promote our current administration, 1553 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.880 but they're taking steps for trying to protect all that stuff, 1554 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.640 and they're taking heat for it. Believe it or not. 1555 01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:37.119 They could do that. They could shut down our whole grid. 1556 01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:40.800 These balloons that came over. If Donald Trump had been 1557 01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.960 in office at that time, that balloon would have never 1558 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:44.159 made it over our border. 1559 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:45.920 No, I never got out of South Dakota. 1560 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:49.520 Yeah, there you go. So you know we are on 1561 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.399 the right track. Is it too late? 1562 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:52.279 I hope not. 1563 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:55.720 All right, maybe it is, but I hope not. But anyway, 1564 01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.560 you know, individually, we all ought to be really responsible 1565 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.199 for what we're doing. And if we all do it right, 1566 01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.279 then the rest of everything takes care of itself. 1567 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:10.319 Art we got to run What is your website? Tell 1568 01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:11.880 the American people your website. 1569 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:17.880 All it's real simple, Timothyplan dot com. You know, check 1570 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.520 the website. We're glad to fill in any information. We 1571 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.720 don't sell anything. We're there for service, to take care 1572 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.239 of people. And you know, God gave us this mission 1573 01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.079 thirty one years ago and we're still here and our 1574 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:31.560 shareholders are very happy. 1575 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:33.680 All right, Art, thank you very much for coming on 1576 01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:35.920 the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Eric, thank you very much. 1577 01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:38.720 Okay, God blessed Bill, thank you for the good work 1578 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:39.119 you're doing. 1579 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:43.239 God bless thank you very much. Once again, America has 1580 01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:45.560 a big decision to make, which is whether we partner 1581 01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:48.720 up with communist read China as we've done for the 1582 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.800 past thirty years to who's benefit, or whether we treat 1583 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.359 them as we treated the old USSR and now Russia, 1584 01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:58.880 which are Paria state, which is a prize state, and 1585 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:02.319 say we're in a cold wall. And I've remarked before 1586 01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:05.199 that before nine to eleven, we thought, okay, well, the 1587 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:08.680 Al qata declared war on us Osama bin Laden, and 1588 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.119 we just didn't accept the idea we are at war 1589 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.960 with Islamic FUNDAMENTALSS murderers. And now we have to decide 1590 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.399 whether we're at war with a cold war with communist 1591 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:20.720 right China. And the answer, of course is yes, they 1592 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.600 declared war on us about thirty years ago, and we've 1593 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:28.000 not properly responded whatsoever because of our desire to have 1594 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.800 shall we say, six hundred million middle class human beings 1595 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:34.039 to use our products. But it hadn't worked out very 1596 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.920 well at all. In fact, has worked out terribly. And 1597 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:41.640 so going back about thirty years, there was China is 1598 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:45.079 our number one geopolitical foe. They see us as such, 1599 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:49.319 and over the years China's enacted egregious actions against the US. 1600 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:51.760 We foolishly and enabled them to end with the World 1601 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.560 Trade Organization. And once upon a time even Nancy Pelosi 1602 01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:00.439 was spoke against granting China Most Favored Nation and trade 1603 01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.840 status because she said the trade deficit was too high. 1604 01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:05.960 And what she said that thirty years ago it was 1605 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.720 thirty four billion dollars. Now it's three hundred billion dollars 1606 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:13.720 a year. And as the mister Wonderfulest set have had 1607 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:17.119 them on several times, Larry, he talks about the fact 1608 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:22.720 that they run a regime completely inconsistent with not just 1609 01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:26.359 American values because of the obliteration of religion that's shooting 1610 01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:29.880 political opponents, but also they lie, cheat, and steel in 1611 01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:33.640 intellectual properties. So we allowed our markets to be open 1612 01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:37.800 to them, but they never opened their markets to us. Plus, 1613 01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.760 China obviously is killing large numbers of Americans on a 1614 01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:45.680 regular basis. I guess. It began about fifteen years ago 1615 01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:49.399 with a Florida drywall issue and what's drywall from China 1616 01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:52.960 was rotting in the walls. But then became the Wuhan 1617 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.560 virus they created in the lab that we paid to 1618 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:59.199 create the lab virus, the Wuhan COVID nineteen. We the 1619 01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:03.079 taxpayer talk to Congress and brad winstrip about that is investigation. 1620 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:05.720 We paid the money that created the virus that killed 1621 01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:09.039 over a million Americans. They've never admitted anything to that effect. 1622 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.039 No lawsuits can be filed against them because they don't 1623 01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:14.960 have a court system. They'll let foreigners in. So began 1624 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.920 small with a China drawwall issue. Then it became the 1625 01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:21.319 Wuhan virus, and they had quite a laugh about that one. 1626 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:24.359 And now it's on the killing Americans through fentanyl. One 1627 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:27.520 hundred thousand a year, all out of communists are at China. 1628 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.439 Do it for Jack quell dot com? Do it for 1629 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.520 Jack one of one hundred thousand Americans killed every year 1630 01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:37.439 by fentanyl. So they're literally killing us directly and indirectly. 1631 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.760 And now we're told that we can't have a tariff 1632 01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:45.000 against them because tariffs are bad. If tariffs are so bad. 1633 01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:48.279 How come all the world uses tariffs? And if the 1634 01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:50.840 goal is to hurt the American consumer, why wouldn't those 1635 01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:54.079 foreign nations want those things to happen. Of course they don't. 1636 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:58.199 China is in a cold war with US. Forget about 1637 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:00.920 for the moment, the hot air balloons all over the country, 1638 01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:04.439 buying up, landing around US military basis. Just between the 1639 01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:09.520 COVID nineteen unleashing that on the world along with fentanyl, 1640 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:13.039 you know exactly what they're talking about. And right now 1641 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.359 China is marching. If it takes a thousand years, a 1642 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.279 thousand years, they're going to defeat America. And we're worried 1643 01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:24.279 about the midterms. And right now, an hour or so ago, 1644 01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:26.840 the president head, the leader of El Salvador in the 1645 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:30.279 office where twist ourselves into a pretzel, worried about an 1646 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:34.319 MS thirteen gang member put in El Salvadore prisons. And 1647 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:38.000 according to the lawyer for this Garcia, this MS thirteen 1648 01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.079 gang banger, he's in the wrong prison gang and he 1649 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:43.520 might be treated harshly in Al Salvador by the other 1650 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:48.159 prison game gang. Unbelievable. And the hundreds of billions of 1651 01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:51.079 dollars in trade Davis's with China. They use that to 1652 01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:56.079 create one belt, one row strategies, basically operating alone in 1653 01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:59.359 the world, and we're supposed to play ball with that 1654 01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.680 outfit and what's right, I don't see it. We have 1655 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.920 to treat them the way we treated the USSR between 1656 01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:11.479 what nineteen nineteen forty five or so and nineteen ninety one, 1657 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:14.319 it took about forty six years. We brought him down economically, 1658 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.880 and the same thing must happen. Now. It's sad, it's sick. 1659 01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:20.399 It's the way things are. But they're not our friends 1660 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:22.840 and they're never going to be our friends. And we 1661 01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:25.399 have to fight the Chai cooms as we fought the 1662 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:28.920 USSR in one And I don't think jijial Ping is 1663 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:32.720 concerned about midterms, concerned about CNN. He's concerned. If it 1664 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.000 takes a thousand years, we're going to win this battle. 1665 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:38.840 Let's continue with more news next. Red's off today, back 1666 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:42.239 out of Tuesday Wednesday, earlier game on Thursday because of 1667 01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.399 seattles in town. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you 1668 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.560 and all of the great Americans every day on News 1669 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:50.359 Radio seven hundred. That what you all do? 1670 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:54.800 Oh, Neil Cruz swings the first pitch, slow roller to Ellie. 1671 01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:58.800 He's got it, fires to first in time, and that's it. 1672 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:02.560 Red's what it to nothing. They blanked the Pirates this 1673 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.800 afternoon here at Great American Ballpark. They sweep the three 1674 01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.760 game series, and the Reds are five hundred eight and eight. 1675 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:22.960 Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting. You don't believe it or not, 1676 01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:27.319 The Reds are ten percent done with the season. Sixteen games. Yeah, 1677 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.239 about ten percent done. Yep. They're eight and eight, won 1678 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:32.840 five of the last six. And for those who didn't 1679 01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:35.399 have faith like I did a week ago, and Tony 1680 01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:38.600 Pike and Anie and the rest of them, they're done. 1681 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:41.159 They're done. You know, I said, keep hope alive. Right 1682 01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.159 now they're eight and eight eight eight, and everybody's there's 1683 01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:45.319 nothing to play. Nothing. 1684 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:49.359 Two games out, Francona, get rid of it, after get 1685 01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:51.920 rid of Tin out of here, get rid of them. Yeah, 1686 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.600 I say, Tito's guy questioning Terry, don't even question them. 1687 01:24:55.920 --> 01:25:00.600 Sake yesterday. Oh so Rory McElroy begins, he's gonna win. 1688 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:04.439 Right, I'm still mentally and physically drained watching that yesterday 1689 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:05.760 from Butler Cabin. 1690 01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:06.720 Ten off. 1691 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.720 Oh, he's gonna win the whole number one shot table bogie. 1692 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:14.159 He's gonna lose, but he said that afterwards. That got 1693 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:16.960 him in the right mind. Then he gets the number 1694 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:19.760 number nine and he's four up to the back nine 1695 01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:22.760 being going. Then he birdie's ten, right, so he's five up. 1696 01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:25.720 You're thinking, okay, he's gonna win, and unlucky thirteen. Then 1697 01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:27.920 thirteen knocks it in the creek. He's gonna lose. 1698 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:32.239 And then Justin Rose says, eleven birdies right, and so 1699 01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:35.000 now you come up to fifteen. He's got a shot 1700 01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.720 like two hundred and twenty five yards, HiT's a five round, 1701 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:40.680 hooks it and all, oh, he's gonna win. But then 1702 01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:42.960 he misses the eagle put Okay, he might not win, right, 1703 01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:46.479 And then Justin Rose birdie's eighteen, and then all of 1704 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:49.399 a sudden, okay, he's gonna lose. Then seventeen he bird 1705 01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:51.680 he's he's gonna win. He's got a wedge in his 1706 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:53.880 hand on eighteen, hit it on the green in two, 1707 01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.399 but he's gonna win. Now he's gonna lose, it said 1708 01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:58.680 the bunker. Gonna lose. Then you go to the tee 1709 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:01.880 to do it again. I'm thinking okay. And then Justin 1710 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.640 Rhodes hits it fifteen feet from the hole for a birdie. Okay, 1711 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:08.479 he's gonna lose. And then McElroy hits it three feet 1712 01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:10.920 away in Mexic Then he's gonna win. What the hell 1713 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:12.760 is it? Segment? I don't know, Willie. 1714 01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:16.439 I was physically and mentally drinking after that and watching 1715 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:19.279 that for the last two and a half hours, exhausted, 1716 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.800 and I wasn't even playing the game. Now, I wasn't 1717 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:24.520 hitting the golf ball, but I'm thinking, I mean, he's 1718 01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:26.880 win that, goulna win, win, win, He's gonna win. 1719 01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:28.479 Day, He's gonna win. Then he's gonna win. 1720 01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.560 And it's like then he goes to a playoff, and 1721 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.600 I'm thinking if he if he loses a playoff, he's 1722 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:34.960 gonna jump and raise creek. 1723 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.199 He's gonna gargan and float to the Gulf of America 1724 01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:40.840 and he wins to become the sixth player of all time? 1725 01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:43.720 Can you name the other five segment? Will heave? 1726 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:46.239 The Stuote Reporter is a proud service every local tame 1727 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:50.800 Star Heating their conditioning dealers Tamestar quality. 1728 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:51.039 Of cand feel. 1729 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:55.159 In Cincinnati, col Schmid Heating and Cooling five one, three, five, 1730 01:26:55.319 --> 01:27:00.319 three one, sixty nine hundred sparts. What that other career 1731 01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.319 grand slammers Willie Gene sarasn You remember him? 1732 01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:06.119 May I give them to you? Ben Hogan number two 1733 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:11.479 in nineteen fifty three, The Black Night, Gary Player, the 1734 01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:17.079 Golden Bear, Jack is back, Tiger unbelievable. 1735 01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:20.439 And what was unbelievable? He did it? What twenty some 1736 01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:22.119 plus years ago? Twenty five years. 1737 01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:24.760 They haven't had one since in the last amazing in 1738 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:30.239 the last sixty years, they've had two. Not Watson, not Lee, Trevino, 1739 01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:34.760 not Nick Fudo, not Sevy, not your Greg Norman, none 1740 01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:37.319 of the greats ever. But Rory got it done. 1741 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.359 And he was shaky, shall we say, but he did 1742 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:42.039 what he had to do when he had to do it. 1743 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.159 You're not kidding, I don't know. I mean you play 1744 01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:48.600 the game and everything else. I mean you play for 1745 01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:51.680 five dollars five dollars a week or something, don't you. 1746 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:56.079 I won like fourteen dollars on Saturday from Tino, from 1747 01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:00.319 a guy named Mike and a guy named Tony. But 1748 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:03.680 he's going to go to the Masters forever. He won 1749 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:05.600 four point two million dollars. 1750 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:06.119 Not bad. 1751 01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:09.319 He gets a trophy, the exact trophy that he was holding. 1752 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:10.079 He get. 1753 01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.159 The thing is the jacket, gets the jacket. He gets 1754 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:15.880 the jacket, and he's going to be walking around now 1755 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.000 as a Grand Slam winner and a Master's champion. 1756 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:20.760 I mean, he doesn't get any better now, he's a 1757 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.760 master of the universe. Oh, as far as living, you have, 1758 01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:27.239 Tiger's alive. Jack's alive, barely, Gary's live, and he's alive. 1759 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.199 In fact, the only ones not with us are Ben 1760 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:32.760 Hogan and Gene Sarason. Correct. So at some point, I 1761 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:35.520 mean Jack's not looking good, would you agree? Uh? 1762 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:37.720 Good, Well, he was looking at the when he when 1763 01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:38.640 he opened the tournament. 1764 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:39.199 I was. 1765 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.680 I'm as happy he didn't fall over teeing it up. 1766 01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:45.199 Eighty five years old. Now he's the greatest major champion 1767 01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:47.840 of all time. Yes, but Tiger Woods is the greatest 1768 01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:50.479 golfer of all time. There's a difference. Oh, I don't 1769 01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.479 know what to tell you, but uh, Roy McElroy yesterday. 1770 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.119 I mean CBS had to get an unbelievable rating for 1771 01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:59.800 that because that was a roll. That was a roller 1772 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.439 coaster of golf more than anything else. 1773 01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:04.560 I mean, it was he was, like you said, he's 1774 01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:07.079 gonna win. He's up four. You know it's gonna cruise 1775 01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:09.720 to the back nine. No, no, no, you're gonna lose. 1776 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:14.359 He's gonna win. He's gonna lose. This he done, and 1777 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:18.239 it's like he won. How about Caitlin Clark basketball player 1778 01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:21.960 apologizing for being white. She said, I'm a beneficiary of 1779 01:29:22.039 --> 01:29:25.239 white privilege. I'm telling you give it up, stop it. 1780 01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.119 I can't wait that we got the with the w 1781 01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:32.640 NBA drafters. Wait tonight tonight, Oh boy, Willy A Hunter 1782 01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:38.000 Green seven sparkling innings. Yesterday the Reds complete that sweep 1783 01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:41.239 of the Pirates. Get out the broom, Jim Day Green 1784 01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:44.920 was dealing again, struck out eight walked one on two 1785 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.960 hours and three minutes unhittable and the games between two 1786 01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.560 hours and two hours twenty. That's what you need, and 1787 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:53.920 that's what god unless you're playing in the Masters with 1788 01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.920 McElroy then and d Shambeau collapsed. 1789 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:01.319 And how about d Chambeau's saying that Rory never talked 1790 01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:03.800 to him at all. I guess because you live golf 1791 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:07.199 right live. Yeah, Now what happens if d Chambeau would 1792 01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:11.039 have won? Does that give legitimacy to live golfer. Does 1793 01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:13.279 that lift them up? And you know it's like, hey, 1794 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.079 the live golf guy you know, comes in and he 1795 01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.479 won the US Open last year, won the Open. But 1796 01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:23.720 they did not speak, and de Chambeau was kind of asked, 1797 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.079 what did you talk with him? What do they want 1798 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:28.239 to talk? Where they got to talk about how the 1799 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:33.239 White Family live, live right, live live versus the PGA, 1800 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:36.920 the PGA, the Evil Empire beat the upstarts, Green's the 1801 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:40.039 e r A. Now Willie is a microscopic zero point 1802 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.239 nine to eight. He's allowed one earned run in three 1803 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:47.520 starts so far. Red's pitching yesterday retired the final twenty 1804 01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:50.479 three they faced not bad pirates stand. 1805 01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:51.960 And they get their team back later this week. 1806 01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:56.439 Stevens think Summer back Santiago Espinal, whether two runs single 1807 01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.600 they reads or eight and eight winning five or six? 1808 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:00.439 What about Stevenson Day all today? 1809 01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:06.520 Homestead continues tomorrow night against the Mariners former Red Luis Castillo, 1810 01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:09.319 The Nick Lodolo. 1811 01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:11.880 Segment Night, jimme out the students report, I have Jason 1812 01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:13.880 Williams coming up. Unless you had some big stuff there. 1813 01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:16.680 Austin Hayes and Matt McClain, Willie are do to be 1814 01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.800 reactivated tomorrow, so we'll see what happened. What about Stevenson, 1815 01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:22.720 I don't know yet. He's well, he's catching, he was playing. 1816 01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:25.880 What about McClain was playing shortstop with a catcher's bit. 1817 01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:28.920 The other day they said, what about McClain. McLain should 1818 01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:31.000 be back, he should be reactivated tomorrow. 1819 01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:35.840 Lost hurt his thumb, his hamstring, his knee, his ankle, 1820 01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:39.760 his ear lobe. What's next that I don't know? Say 1821 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:40.920 give me out of the stude report. 1822 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:45.359 Willie was on this day, fourteenth of Ape eighteen sixty 1823 01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:50.680 five Lade Lincoln assassinated Ford's Theater by. 1824 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:53.119 John Wilkes Booth. How about this day with Pete Rose 1825 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:55.239 nineteen twelve You forgot? 1826 01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:55.439 Oh? 1827 01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:56.720 The Titanic. 1828 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.239 Later tonight, on April the fourth teenth, nineteen twelve, the 1829 01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:05.640 Titanic hits the Iceberg sinks at twenty minutes till at 1830 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:09.479 midnight Eastern time. Nearer my God to thee and then 1831 01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:13.319 a happy heavenly birthday did the hit King Peter Edward 1832 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:16.960 Rose four fourteen forty one Bingo and also Willie. We 1833 01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:22.439 say condolences to the Tommy Helms family. Yeah, good man, Tommy. 1834 01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.920 Emma's passing away yesterday at eighty three because of him, 1835 01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:29.159 Joe Morgan came to Cincinnati. That's right segment. He was 1836 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:31.399 in her manager twice twice. Get me out of the 1837 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:33.680 student's report, will you, and out of a beautiful day 1838 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:35.520 here in the trist Eate. We leave you with the 1839 01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:39.199 immortal words of the Stewd dripord all. 1840 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:41.199 I should be with you. Bill, Let's see you later. 1841 01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:45.239 Governor Mike DeWine scheduled to come on later this week. Yeah, 1842 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:54.199 on seven hundred WLW. Let's continue, Jason Williams. Of course, 1843 01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.319 the Reds are off today, back out of Tuesday, Wednesday 1844 01:32:57.359 --> 01:32:59.479 and Thursday with Seattle. The Mariners are in town. But 1845 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:02.640 of all, Jason, I listened with interest your interview last 1846 01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:06.199 week with Senator A Blessing of more or less Corane Township, 1847 01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:08.479 one of the three state senators from the Hamleton County 1848 01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:11.239 are not very keen on the Bengals deal at all. 1849 01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.159 And then I had on a couple hours ago State Rep. 1850 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.840 Adam Byrd who's the assistant majority floor leader. He is 1851 01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.119 at the table with Matt Huffman, the Speaker, and with 1852 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:24.439 the Governor, and with the State Senate President and long 1853 01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:27.760 in The short of this is, it doesn't appear likely 1854 01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:31.279 unless things change fundamentally. Any money's coming from the state, 1855 01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:34.439 especially out of general revenue money, that's not going to happen. 1856 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:37.119 And he laid out the idea that the Browns the 1857 01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:39.479 headlines where the Browns are getting six hundred and sixty 1858 01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:42.319 million dollars. Then he laid out what that was, which 1859 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.479 was a bonding authority. He also laid off that the 1860 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:49.880 vacant land in southern Tyhoe County doesn't exist, generates no 1861 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:52.720 sales tacks. And now this deal with Jimmy Hanslom, he's 1862 01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:54.840 been working on it for two years with the legislature, 1863 01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:57.960 is going to hold the state harmless of lost money, 1864 01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:00.319 including a fifty million dollar escro is going to grow 1865 01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:02.760 in time. In other words, they said, there's no relationship 1866 01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:06.039 between that deal and simply writing a check to the 1867 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:09.039 Bengals of the county. Explain why you think this deal 1868 01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:09.800 is a non starter. 1869 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:16.000 Well, because really what you just said, I mean, this 1870 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.239 is what three hundred and fifty million dollars just to 1871 01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:22.520 just coming ask with your hand out and no strings attached, 1872 01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:26.479 give us three hundred and fifty million dollars to upgrade 1873 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:30.319 the stadium, and it all sounded really good. And I 1874 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:33.039 heard the niche Streehouse on with you last week, and 1875 01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:37.319 I give her credit, and she's trying like crazy on this, 1876 01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.399 and I think that I think that's a pretty good 1877 01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:45.239 deal idea not deal, idea to one third from the county, 1878 01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:49.039 one third from the state, and one third from the 1879 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.960 Bengals slash NFL slash private side of things. And that 1880 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:58.000 sounds really neat and it's certainly much better than last 1881 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:02.560 time around. But I think, you know, really, in reality. 1882 01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:02.800 That's. 1883 01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:06.000 That's not how things are going to go, or at 1884 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:10.760 least that's not It takes all three, all three parties 1885 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:13.640 there to be aligned on that one third one third, 1886 01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:17.479 one third, and as of right now, it only sounds 1887 01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:20.520 like the county is interested in doing that. 1888 01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:21.239 Uh. 1889 01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:26.680 And so I'm not sure where it goes from here, Willie, 1890 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:29.680 I really don't, because you're right. I mean, I had 1891 01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:31.640 Senator Blessing on I was filling in for Eddie and 1892 01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:34.479 Rocky last week, and he's very much aligned with the governor. 1893 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.520 He and I talked in this back at the turn 1894 01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:39.760 of the year. I believe just had a couple of 1895 01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:42.960 conversations behind the scenes just on the phone talking about 1896 01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:45.880 you know, he knew this was coming up this year. 1897 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:47.399 He knew there was going to be an. 1898 01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.239 Ask and his big thing was, you know, let's let's 1899 01:35:50.279 --> 01:35:53.199 figure out a different way to do this. And the governor, 1900 01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:58.359 obviously that has said, yeah, let's look at taxing, you know, sports, 1901 01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:02.479 sports gaming. What's the other tax now, marijuana. 1902 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:04.239 He wants to increase the marijuana. 1903 01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:10.520 Yeah, exactly. And you know, and so almost like you 1904 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:15.880 know the quote sin tax, you know, you tax, you 1905 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:18.600 tax kind of things that are on the periphery that 1906 01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:20.640 a lot of people are going to you know, we're 1907 01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:23.439 going to spend money on it, no matter how much 1908 01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:26.319 it costs, And so why not try to get that 1909 01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:29.439 extra money there instead of just taking it out on 1910 01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.880 the general public in a in a sales tax it 1911 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.000 certainly it wouldn't be a sales tax from the state, 1912 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:38.359 but the sales tax a sales tax. Increy, we're already 1913 01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:41.199 we're already taxed to death here in Hamilton County. I 1914 01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:45.319 think we're at the second highest in the state of 1915 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.720 a sales tax, next to Kayahoga County, and we might 1916 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:50.800 be number one. The last time looked at I think 1917 01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.439 we were two an you think you think, all those 1918 01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:57.279 years ago, Willie, how much pride uh uh. You know, 1919 01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:59.920 people who lived in Hamilton County took in the fact, 1920 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:03.720 oh you know, those other those other urban counties in 1921 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.079 the state are much more expensive to live in than 1922 01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:09.560 ours is. And that's all changed now. And a big 1923 01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.159 part of that has been and I'm not blaming at 1924 01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:13.880 all on that, but a big part of that has 1925 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:18.640 been the stadium tax and has since a sales tax increase. 1926 01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:22.960 It's going to be there forever, and really, Willy, at 1927 01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.239 the end of the day, that's never going to go away, 1928 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:27.720 so that that money is always going to be there 1929 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:30.159 for the Bengals and Reds, and that's where the county's 1930 01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:30.680 coming from. 1931 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:30.880 Here. 1932 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:33.319 No one's saying, let's take this back to the ballot, 1933 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.399 let's change this, let's reduce it to the Bengals, and 1934 01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:39.960 the county always know that that's going to be there 1935 01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:44.800 in perpetuity. And so now they got to figure out 1936 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:48.920 because it's all about timing, and it's all about you know, 1937 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:52.239 the Bengals need nearly or want nearly a billion dollars 1938 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:55.359 worth of upgrades and eight hundred some million to the stadium, 1939 01:37:55.399 --> 01:37:57.560 and so how much time is that going to take 1940 01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:00.199 to get to that point? And then you know, if 1941 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.640 you knock out four hundred million over five years, then 1942 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:06.680 you're like, well, there's now other issues, and so you know, 1943 01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:09.000 it's just an ongoing thing. And so that's the big 1944 01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:13.439 question is, uh, you know, where's that kind of one 1945 01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:16.720 time chunk of money going to come from? Really, you know, 1946 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.319 they're kind of hammer away at that eight hundred million 1947 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:22.600 dollars worth of those upgrade that you know, sort of 1948 01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:26.119 in a shorter period of time than over the course 1949 01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:27.159 of a longer lease. 1950 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:28.920 And when I look at it, when I speak to 1951 01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:31.960 my Republican friends in Columbus, I have pretty good sources there. 1952 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:35.800 They hate tax increases. They're against tax increases. They don't 1953 01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:38.199 want to go marijuana ten to twenty. They don't want 1954 01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:40.159 to have this so called gambling tax go up. They 1955 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:42.880 don't want to do that. Hell, these Republicans are against 1956 01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:46.520 tax increases. And over the weekend, viveg Ramaswami and David 1957 01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:50.239 jos both came out against this, and the Governor Dwaine 1958 01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:53.279 has repeatedly said no, he's got the line on in veto, 1959 01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:55.800 which means, uh, you've got to get sixty percent to 1960 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.159 overturn it, and that's not going to happen. And so 1961 01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:01.079 you got ten weeks to get this done completely, which 1962 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:04.159 is here we are April the fourteenth. Tax day is tomorrow, 1963 01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.399 but June thirtieth is the capital budget is done, and 1964 01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:09.840 that's a two year budgeting and so it's got to 1965 01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:12.000 be done by then. And the Bengals can renew the 1966 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:15.119 lease for two years by sending an email and to 1967 01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:17.760 keep the same terms for two more years. Now we're 1968 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:20.920 into twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, and a pundit 1969 01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.359 one said that the taxpayer who pays most of the 1970 01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:26.159 bills can't afford to go to the games anyway, and 1971 01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:29.520 we're talking about eight to nine games total, and the 1972 01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:32.880 Bengals have to have a come to Jesus meeting with somebody. Well, 1973 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:34.800 I tell you, I want to get your perspective to 1974 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:37.159 make sure the same as mine that the big question 1975 01:39:37.359 --> 01:39:39.880 is this, when push comes to shove and the state's 1976 01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:43.279 not going to put in their money, what happens? Jason Williams, 1977 01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:44.279 where's the deal? 1978 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:44.600 Deal? 1979 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:44.920 There? 1980 01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:48.079 Will maybe Katie Blackburn be seen outside of some other 1981 01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:51.199 NFL stadium, a hat in hand, moving the team. What 1982 01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:55.399 happens about minute remaining, what happens then Jason Williams, Well, 1983 01:39:55.479 --> 01:39:58.079 Mike Brown here in Baltimore, Well, what's going to happen? 1984 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.399 So that's a that's an eight hundred million dollar question there. 1985 01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:05.119 That is the question, what is going to happen. I 1986 01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:07.920 do believe the state is gonna the state's gonna come 1987 01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:09.479 up with some money. I don't think it's going to 1988 01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:12.199 be turning a fifty million. There is also a capital 1989 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:15.079 budget where you know, that's where all these projects come 1990 01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:17.600 hand out and the state rights check, so you know 1991 01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:19.640 there certainly will get some money from that. I don't 1992 01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:24.279 know how much they would get from that. Look, I 1993 01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:27.479 truly believe the Bengals aren't going anywhere, certainly as all 1994 01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:30.439 as long as Mike Brown's in charge, They're not going anywhere. 1995 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:33.159 I could see a day maybe where Katie and Troy 1996 01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:35.720 are the owners of the team, and you know, maybe 1997 01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:38.199 if they were to sell, the team would to go somewhere. 1998 01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:41.479 I don't I'm not not scaring anyone here. I don't 1999 01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:45.159 think they have any intentions of doing that. But that's 2000 01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:46.960 the only that's the only way I really think the 2001 01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.039 Bengals are ever going to move. And I think it's 2002 01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:51.079 to be clear too, the Bengals, you know, they're not 2003 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:53.600 like what Katie said a few weeks ago about that 2004 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:55.479 they could go in. I think she was literally just 2005 01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:58.399 she was being a lawyer. She was literally just saying, 2006 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.000 this is what you know could happen by the book, right, 2007 01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:04.800 is that they're they're not tied to any another lease 2008 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.359 anything else. There's nothing beneficial yet. I don't think she 2009 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:10.239 was saying that in the context of like, oh, we're 2010 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:12.479 threatening to leave or we're looking to leave, and so 2011 01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.279 right did I asked some reporters that were there and 2012 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.640 that like the tone that was really the tone that 2013 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:22.039 they got as well. But it wasn't nearly as hard, 2014 01:41:22.359 --> 01:41:25.079 you know, hard hitting as it kind of red in 2015 01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:26.640 print necessarily. 2016 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:29.359 Well, we'll see what happens. But I went to Bengals 2017 01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:31.640 to stay here for the next thirty to forty years. 2018 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.600 But according to the state, the deal must change fundamentally 2019 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:37.520 and much changed quickly to get it done. But Jason Williams, 2020 01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:40.520 once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Jason, 2021 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:42.199 You're a great American. Thank you very much. 2022 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:43.319 Thank you, my friend. 2023 01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:45.000 Give a segment a hug for me, see you. 2024 01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:47.359 I got my arms around him. Now let's continue with 2025 01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:49.640 more news. Next to Rome with the Reds not playing today, 2026 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:52.880 Back Out of Tomorrow on News Radio seven hundred ww