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<v Speaker 1>Okay, welcome back to the Operaman Report. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>private investigator at Opperaman, and we are lucky to get

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of Daniel Hopsicker from Medcowprode dot com. That's

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<v Speaker 1>his website, and he's got a brand new book coming

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<v Speaker 1>out called Gangster Planet. We're looking forward to that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're the first ones to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hopsicker is a legend in this field. With the

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Cow Morning News and the Muhammad Ata's Flying Circus

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<v Speaker 1>and all the great work is done Barry and the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's been there and done it from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we're lucky to have him on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hopsicker, are you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, and thank you for that nice introduction. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, by the way, I think what this field

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<v Speaker 2>needs is more private investigators like you, because there are

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes when I want to find something out when you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that the guys that do what you did,

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<v Speaker 2>or do I I'm not quite sure what are able

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<v Speaker 2>to put right to the heart of it immediately. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>More so, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chugging away here. I'm not giving up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you want? What do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's start first with the new books Gangster Planet.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we going to look forward to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a gangster planet. I mean, there's just no

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<v Speaker 2>way around, you know. I think it's a pithy, pithy title.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have, I guess, been lucky enough to have

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a front row seat on criminal activity, high

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<v Speaker 2>level criminal activity. Not street buggings. O they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are bringing one hundred million dollars of of of

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<v Speaker 2>Coca a tala first, first in Louisiana where I went to.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Louisian. I'm from California. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you know that about southern California. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Louisiana to write a book about Barry Sea.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I saw there, coupled with what I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the last dozen years living in Florida, makes me

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<v Speaker 2>realize that there's a whole criminal enterprises in America that's

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<v Speaker 2>like located like it's like it's like they're offshore here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is a part of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America, but like stuff goes on here that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go on in Illinois. Are you with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. And now that

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not just the cooke stuff and the drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the Trump administration, all these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are pulling scams and cons. How come they can get

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<v Speaker 1>away with this with impunity? And if you or me

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<v Speaker 1>try to do any of these things, even low level

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<v Speaker 1>bank scams would be under the prison.

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<v Speaker 2>I can explain it to you very quickly as it

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<v Speaker 2>was explained to me, okay by a guy who I

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<v Speaker 2>who I who is a very smart man, who who

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<v Speaker 2>I actually kind of likes quite a bit, who I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was running the CIA's aviation station in Miami. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was pretty much as Frank with music

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<v Speaker 2>could be. And then he said, but you know, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>what it is is it's a never ending scandal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one scandal. It just keeps going on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on. Okay. In other words, the same people that

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<v Speaker 2>were involved in Iran contra, you know, you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>doing other things when when Bush was president and and

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<v Speaker 2>and they're doing stuff now and and they have their counterparts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's why they call it organized crime. Okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>the basic message, if I could tell you in one line,

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<v Speaker 2>what I think I've learned is that the forces of

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<v Speaker 2>transnational organized crime are stronger than the forces of any

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<v Speaker 2>nation state on earth, including including our own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah with you? And and then what is it? You

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in the two party systems and you make donations,

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<v Speaker 1>you raise money, and you pay your dues, and and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you get away with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there is no two party system, right, I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 2>sorry to tell you an anecdote from a movie by

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<v Speaker 2>Preston Sturgis and I Sullivant. Sullivant's travels and he's pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to be a bumb and there's an election and and

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<v Speaker 2>and the Boston town promises, uh, you know, five bucks

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<v Speaker 2>for a body that votes. And this guy goes out

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<v Speaker 2>and what's not sixty nine times? And the boss is

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with them and says he's going to give him

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<v Speaker 2>a job. And the guy's going great. And the boss says,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be in charge of the Reform Party

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<v Speaker 2>the next election. And the guy goes the Reform Party.

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<v Speaker 2>But Boss, you know you're not the reform He says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all the parties. Hell, Hell's son, I'm all the parties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and isn't that the truth?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put you in charge of investigating voter front.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a good job out there. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I once asked a guy, I'm not the sharpest, why

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<v Speaker 2>am I doing this? I mean, there's no there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>not very few. There's not a lot of people poking

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<v Speaker 2>around where I poke around, and and you know, probably

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<v Speaker 2>because because they fix it though it's not wildly remunerative

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<v Speaker 2>and you're discouraged. You know, you say I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>write a science You know, you can do what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing right now if you fictionalize it. Okay, fictionalized, fictionalize

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<v Speaker 2>it enough. But my tendency has just been to pursue

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm interested in without getting to the point. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's the point I'm finally reaching at any rate.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm here to tell you that that I

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<v Speaker 2>know stuff about Russiagate that that nobody else knows. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I know stuff about about it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>believe me, I am not pretending to know the whole

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<v Speaker 2>story of Russiagate, you know, by any means. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I saw beginning in two thousand and eight was was

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<v Speaker 2>was stuff being done by guys who had continuity with

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I'd seen before. Okay, For example, Verry Steals murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do you have is your audience? Do they do

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<v Speaker 2>they know by Barry Zeal they know about this? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay. Very Seal gets assassinated in nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 2>or seven, and the next year his lawyer, his his

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<v Speaker 2>in house lawyer who sued me for emotional distress, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I cannot disclose his name. He incorporated the company

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida called Nationwide Vans for a guy, a Saudi

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<v Speaker 2>by the name of romy Olbatrawi, who it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>was the chief lieutenant of Van then Koshoki. So Barry

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<v Speaker 2>sales guys incorporating something for Koshoki then in ninety one

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two doesn't come out to ninety six, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Intelligence Agency does a big report on I'm called

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<v Speaker 2>thean drug traffickers supporting the government down there, and Koshoki's

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<v Speaker 2>prominent on the list at the inn Kyoshoki. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>then it turns out out, okay, I'm here in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and and two big two big drug drug rug drug

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<v Speaker 2>trafficking things happened, and two thousand and six, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and seven, that just reared their heads like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like like King Kong, you know, getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. A DC nine from Saint Petersburg was busted

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<v Speaker 2>with five and a half tons of cocaine. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually a really interesting story what they both are. But

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<v Speaker 2>then the following year, a Gulf Stream was busted near

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<v Speaker 2>the same place in Mexico with four more than four

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<v Speaker 2>tons of cocaine. And the ownership of the two planes

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<v Speaker 2>is interlinked, okay, I mean if you look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of the people that owned one plane

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<v Speaker 2>owned on one owned the other, okay at one time.

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<v Speaker 2>And and if you're and I had realized a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago that the CIA just it it's aviation assets

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<v Speaker 2>around it doesn't matter, if you know. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>they move them, move them around regularly every every couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, but they never sell them. But they never

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<v Speaker 2>I have never found a plane that I have Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, both both these planes had government government connections. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the DC nine, which was flying out of the same

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<v Speaker 2>airport in Florida that the Coast Guard and Customs and

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<v Speaker 2>Border Patrol their main aviation assets right there, right and

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<v Speaker 2>there's DC nine is flying out of there, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's taxing up and down the apron, looking like a

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<v Speaker 2>government plane. It's got a big seal on the side.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that it's the sky but you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. You don't see what it says. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>sky with aircraft. It does it's a US government. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's got the ego. It looks exactly like

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<v Speaker 2>a government seal, and it's painted exactly like a government plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's taken for a government plane down there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's taken for a government plane.

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<v Speaker 1>The air traffic people and the people who run the airport,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's a government playing with them. Don't they

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<v Speaker 1>have paperwork, wouldn't they know?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just another level of of of First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I mean it doesn't matter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an air traffic controller in Mexico, you do

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<v Speaker 2>what you're told, you know, so you don't go boss,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a strange plane here. Somebody somebody just took off

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<v Speaker 2>from a dirt runway and it's like trying to evade

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<v Speaker 2>us on the radar. You know, that doesn't happen like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the whole story. That's the whole story

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<v Speaker 2>against planet. Okay. You know who controls the distribution of

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<v Speaker 2>the pipeline up to hear Is is guys who own

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<v Speaker 2>airports down there, you know, the richest Mexicans, Carlos slim them,

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<v Speaker 2>God love him. Okay comes close to looking like the

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<v Speaker 2>prototype of what you'd think like a major drug trafficker

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<v Speaker 2>would look like. It's not some, it's not some, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not uh Elchpo Guzman, you know, hanging out in the

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<v Speaker 2>mountains of Sineloa, you know, with bandoliers strapped across his chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't work that way. You got to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be able to have lunch with Jamie's

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Dimon at JP Morgan Chase. You can't look like, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like you just dug a tunnel, right, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>look like he just came from underground.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right. That's what again, that's what you're

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<v Speaker 2>paying for, that's what that's what you're paying some rich

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<v Speaker 2>industrialists in Mexico to deal with somebody here that that's

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<v Speaker 2>what this guy's are. You know, he's got plausible deniability,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is what you or I would want

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<v Speaker 2>if we were in the same musician, am I right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how does this connect those to the Russian mob

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<v Speaker 1>and what Mueller found in his report? The cliff Notes

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<v Speaker 1>version of what Mueller found.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so I'm interested in everything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the people that had anything to do with just these

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<v Speaker 2>two planes, all right, and an Kashoki going back on

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<v Speaker 2>both of them. And Ashoki the Russian I mean or

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<v Speaker 2>the Saudi, you know. I mean, he's an American asset.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the CIA guy. He's he's the Jude you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going back, he's actually been involved in every American major

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<v Speaker 2>American scandal since the seventies. Okay, He's he's the actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, right, this is

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<v Speaker 2>six degrees of is you know he is somehow involved.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, He's the he was on around Contra. He

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<v Speaker 2>was in and you don't remember this because you probably

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<v Speaker 2>weren't born yet, the Lockheed bribery scandal in the mid seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been there, he was that, and he

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<v Speaker 2>owned both explaints. He and his you know, through his

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<v Speaker 2>lieutenant romy Albatrowie Okay, who is himself a piece of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Rommiy Albatrowie. Actually I think he showok his lieutenant Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>is the perfect sample of transnational organized because he's Saudi,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not Saudi. And the reasoning he's not Saudi

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<v Speaker 2>son of a Saudi rich Saudi Okay, general. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that owns the the big hot the big

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<v Speaker 2>Mohammed? Yeah, he would at Naka Shogi's son in law or.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, right, And what's his connection to to this guy Kashogi,

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And and he you know, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you make of this? You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>all the reporters are sitting around, they're talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>to and says, hey, mister Trump, that's the guy related

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<v Speaker 1>bought the big yacht from. No one says that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's look, that's my position. That's just bizarre, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve months before the attack because they were here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't read any major books about them here.

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<v Speaker 2>You read books about them in Hamburg and about this

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<v Speaker 2>and that and the other, but none of those big

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<v Speaker 2>and and uh it was it was a footnote in

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<v Speaker 2>And and and he's a guy whose name you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all right? And I went. I went to a friend

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to him and I said, I said, Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, he said, I said, how come welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see this, And he said, because they don't,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't bother to hide it, which was pretty deflating.

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<v Speaker 2>going to go after it or you know, not all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but much of the time. So a half

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<v Speaker 2>dozen guys important in Russia Gate had crossed my radar

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<v Speaker 2>long before Russia Gate because they were involved with guys

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<v Speaker 2>I knew were involved in drug trafficking. Okay, long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>there is I knew who o Legg Derek Pasca was

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Olig Deripaska is the Oliver North of Russia Gate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He's the guy running around, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 2>self important. That was Olig Derepaska, and I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was following him. And because I was following him, I

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<v Speaker 2>was following him by about two thousand and five, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six. And because I was following him, when

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<v Speaker 2>Trump sold a mansion to another Russian oligarchy that I

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<v Speaker 2>knew was connected to Ola Deripaska, I went hmm, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked into it a little more, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>like two thousand and eight. Okay, and that guy ribola

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<v Speaker 2>lives name hard to say, but but but the trump

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<v Speaker 2>one undred fifty million dollars for him, I mean, Ribololev

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<v Speaker 2>uh what a manch and is appraised at. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he did, more than twice. So fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>went went, you know, was off the books. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you want, is operations that are off the books.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to own hotels, uh and in places where

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<v Speaker 2>you can. We're small notts of Kashkamn, right, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to want to run it. You want to run hotels

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<v Speaker 2>because because you can, you can. You can own a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's you know, that's got like you know, notebookings

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<v Speaker 2>at all, like like and you can show it on

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<v Speaker 2>the books as if it's like, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>hottest hotel in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to know someone's staying in the room in

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<v Speaker 1>that and.

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<v Speaker 2>And and this is the end of the This is

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the business. That's those interesting. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is the end of the business that's most important. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the money end. Okay, it's the money laundering because what's

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<v Speaker 2>the point of being involved in organized crime? Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the point of being involved the trans you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the power thing, for the for the guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>that's why that's why, that's why Russia is so pissed

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<v Speaker 2>at the US. That's why, that's why they're so pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Putin is so pissed because it's his Oligeraposket

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<v Speaker 2>that can't spend his money here, okay. And and the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like a world a world traveler, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>got the slickest organized crime operation in the world. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, and the too, well that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing. And do you want I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want uh that group having having having access

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<v Speaker 2>to American capital markets? I mean, no fucking way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I's so fact though. Corruption Do you think do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think there's enough of that money floating around that they

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we're gonna see. I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a political insider. I mean, you know, certainly, I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 2>for the best. But you know what I've I've always

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<v Speaker 2>said that I don't I don't have much good to

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<v Speaker 2>say about Republicans, okay, but but I haven't even less

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<v Speaker 2>good to say about Democrats, because like, Democrats will break

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<v Speaker 2>your heart every time you'll you'll try really hard, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean Bernie was an example of that,

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<v Speaker 2>just the most recent I mean, you know, going back

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<v Speaker 2>to the fucking sixties, the Democratic Democratic Party is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when when push comes to show, you know. So, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going to happen. I'm certainly I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's gonna take it's going to take billions of

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what it's going to come down to.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make a bar bar In his history

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<v Speaker 1>and his connections to iran conscient all that is this

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's consider him. On the one hand, he's uh

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<v Speaker 2>uh nearing retirement, okay, and and he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be seen as the villain and like the biggest organized

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<v Speaker 2>cover up in history. Okay, But then look at who

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<v Speaker 2>he is on this On the other side. He plays ball. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he plays ball. That's that's what you can say about

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<v Speaker 2>all of these guys here. They play ball. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this is going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting time in American history because if you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>they released the Mule Report and it turns out I've

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<v Speaker 2>been wrong, I'm cool with that. I mean, if you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just but that's not that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what it is. So what it is is going

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, real quick, because because we're running out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>what can it tell usbout connections between Trump, Koshogi, and

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<v Speaker 2>They're obviously part of Well let's just look at it

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<v Speaker 2>from the out side. Okay. There was a time when

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump couldn't couldn't, couldn't borrow any money at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>A guy down here. At the same time, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>down here here in Venice, you know, couldn't buy aviation

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<v Speaker 2>fuel for cash. Somebody told me Trump couldn't couldn't raise

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<v Speaker 2>cash in America at all, and Deutsche Bank was running

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And during the same time period, adding the

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<v Speaker 2>Koshogi was running a scam with financial scam with Deutsche

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<v Speaker 2>Bank's willing involvement that netted three hundred to five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars and for which Doutsch Deutsche Bank was forced

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<v Speaker 2>to pay a two hundred and seventy eight million dollar fine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do those two events implicate Deutsche Bank in some larger conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned here also too, there's a connection between

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Russian hackers in Koshoge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, I mean that's a dude. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of things they found here. Okay, just because I

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<v Speaker 2>would just pipe Okay, us cups customs agent in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 2>retired and told me something that's turned on to be

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<v Speaker 2>like with the most interesting advice I ever got, which

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<v Speaker 2>was easy. There's not a lot of players out there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they all know. So if you see somebody that was involved. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Asa Hutchinson was a prosecutor in Western Arkansas, US prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>when they were moving tons of drugs through Mina, Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>and never saw a thing. Okay, twenty years later or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years later, George Buship points, he'sa Hutchinson to

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<v Speaker 2>head the DEA. Okay, it happened. I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>his area of expertise, right that. That's that's so there's

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<v Speaker 2>they keep being recycled. And William Barr was involved in

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, BCC. He was involved in cover ups

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<v Speaker 2>and he fingered figures prominently in a book that was

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<v Speaker 2>could not have could not have set out to slander

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<v Speaker 2>William Barr. And William Barr was involved in the MINA

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<v Speaker 2>operation exactly with George Bush and and and Bill Clinton. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Chip Tatum and he said right off

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and ship Chiptatum, Chiptatum was there. Chip Tatum is

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<v Speaker 2>one of Yeah, you know, I've always chip Datum was there,

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<v Speaker 2>Chip Datum Witer was there. So and and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he came out and talked, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not on the inside. You know, they would know,

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<v Speaker 2>but but he did and he managed to live through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh more power to send some people on my

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<v Speaker 2>website madcalprod dot com have have him pre ordered Gangster Planet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start putting up the little video here this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend on that. And uh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish there was a way people could support your

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<v Speaker 1>work more that if they had like a paywall with

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<v Speaker 1>some content up there, a Patreon account of something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing like that, you know, until now he

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<v Speaker 2>even thought of it, you know, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But now now now I have to do something like

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<v Speaker 2>that because because I need money to bubblish Gangster Planet,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm gonna have to uh become more active. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I encourage everyone more proactive. Is the webmaster or something

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<v Speaker 2>any and if any of your audience like is web

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<v Speaker 2>webmaster e you know, have him get in touch with me,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's a skill I don't particularly ever want to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I get off the phone with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get on the phone my friend over here

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<v Speaker 1>to Uh, Daniel Hopsticker, thank you so much, Madcowprode dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And the new book is called Gangster Planet. But don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget the old books. Uh, the Flying Circus there and

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<v Speaker 1>the Barry and the Boys. You gotta get all these books.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hopsicker, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night brother. Okay, there we have Daniel Hopsticker. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to check out his website, madcowprod dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to be called Mad Cow Production or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but now it's the Mad Cow Prode. The

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<v Speaker 1>new book is Gangster Planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hopsticker is the real deal. Okay, He's been around forever.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived with Barry Seale's wife. Man, this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the trenches for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys should have a Pulitzer prize and he needs

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<v Speaker 1>our support. Okay, he doesn't have any even a donate

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<v Speaker 1>button set up yet, but we're gonna get that done

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<v Speaker 1>for him by the end of the week. Daniel Hopsicker,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. If you like tonight's show, check

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<v Speaker 1>out Oppermanreport dot com. That's where we have our special

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<v Speaker 1>member section and I need your support.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the hell I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going through here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this is an easy stuff, guys, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we just really got our ask cacts really bad

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<v Speaker 1>over here too. So if you can support our show

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<v Speaker 1>here by becoming a member. I know we haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>updating the members section, but there's two hundred shows in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I got somebody working on on pixing up

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<v Speaker 1>the website too, Oppermanreport dot com. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>become a member, you can email me directly at Opperman

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<v Speaker 1>Report at gmail dot com. I'll give you a discount

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen months or sixty five dollars. I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to read any ads while we had Daniel on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but Daniel's a legend man. He's this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who laughs when he hears the word deep state,

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy was there when the phrase is being

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<v Speaker 1>coined by Peter Dale Scott. All right, guys, God bless

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<v Speaker 1>you all. Thank you so much, and please support the

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<v Speaker 1>show that we're going to take your donations to operadport

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hops Madcowprade dot com.
