Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back to the Operaman Report. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: private investigator at Opperaman, and we are lucky to get
Speaker 1: a hold of Daniel Hopsicker from Medcowprode dot com. That's
Speaker 1: his website, and he's got a brand new book coming
Speaker 1: out called Gangster Planet. We're looking forward to that. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think we're the first ones to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Daniel Hopsicker is a legend in this field. With the
Speaker 1: Mad Cow Morning News and the Muhammad Ata's Flying Circus
Speaker 1: and all the great work is done Barry and the boys.
Speaker 1: This guy's been there and done it from the start.
Speaker 1: And when we're lucky to have him on the show,
Speaker 1: Daniel Hopsicker, are you there?
Speaker 2: I am, and thank you for that nice introduction. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, by the way, I think what this field
Speaker 2: needs is more private investigators like you, because there are
Speaker 2: sometimes when I want to find something out when you know,
Speaker 2: I realized that the guys that do what you did,
Speaker 2: or do I I'm not quite sure what are able
Speaker 2: to put right to the heart of it immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 2: More so, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: You know me.
Speaker 1: I'm chugging away here. I'm not giving up.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you want? What do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about?
Speaker 1: Well, let's start first with the new books Gangster Planet.
Speaker 1: What are we going to look forward to?
Speaker 2: Well, it's a gangster planet. I mean, there's just no
Speaker 2: way around, you know. I think it's a pithy, pithy title.
Speaker 2: But I have, I guess, been lucky enough to have
Speaker 2: kind of a front row seat on criminal activity, high
Speaker 2: level criminal activity. Not street buggings. O they you know,
Speaker 2: guys are bringing one hundred million dollars of of of
Speaker 2: Coca a tala first, first in Louisiana where I went to.
Speaker 2: I went to Louisian. I'm from California. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you know that about southern California. And uh, I
Speaker 2: went to Louisiana to write a book about Barry Sea.
Speaker 2: And when I saw there, coupled with what I've seen
Speaker 2: in the last dozen years living in Florida, makes me
Speaker 2: realize that there's a whole criminal enterprises in America that's
Speaker 2: like located like it's like it's like they're offshore here. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean this is a part of the United States
Speaker 2: of America, but like stuff goes on here that doesn't
Speaker 2: go on in Illinois. Are you with me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. And now that
Speaker 1: but it's not just the cooke stuff and the drugs.
Speaker 1: If you look at the Trump administration, all these guys
Speaker 1: are pulling scams and cons. How come they can get
Speaker 1: away with this with impunity? And if you or me
Speaker 1: try to do any of these things, even low level
Speaker 1: bank scams would be under the prison.
Speaker 2: I can explain it to you very quickly as it
Speaker 2: was explained to me, okay by a guy who I
Speaker 2: who I who is a very smart man, who who
Speaker 2: I actually kind of likes quite a bit, who I
Speaker 2: thought was running the CIA's aviation station in Miami. And
Speaker 2: you know, he was pretty much as Frank with music
Speaker 2: could be. And then he said, but you know, he said,
Speaker 2: what it is is it's a never ending scandal. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's one scandal. It just keeps going on and on
Speaker 2: and on. Okay. In other words, the same people that
Speaker 2: were involved in Iran contra, you know, you know, are
Speaker 2: doing other things when when Bush was president and and
Speaker 2: and they're doing stuff now and and they have their counterparts.
Speaker 2: Well that's why they call it organized crime. Okay. And
Speaker 2: the basic message, if I could tell you in one line,
Speaker 2: what I think I've learned is that the forces of
Speaker 2: transnational organized crime are stronger than the forces of any
Speaker 2: nation state on earth, including including our own.
Speaker 1: Yeah with you? And and then what is it? You
Speaker 1: get involved in the two party systems and you make donations,
Speaker 1: you raise money, and you pay your dues, and and
Speaker 1: that's how you get away with it?
Speaker 2: Well, there is no two party system, right, I'll I'll
Speaker 2: sorry to tell you an anecdote from a movie by
Speaker 2: Preston Sturgis and I Sullivant. Sullivant's travels and he's pretending
Speaker 2: to be a bumb and there's an election and and
Speaker 2: and the Boston town promises, uh, you know, five bucks
Speaker 2: for a body that votes. And this guy goes out
Speaker 2: and what's not sixty nine times? And the boss is
Speaker 2: impressed with them and says he's going to give him
Speaker 2: a job. And the guy's going great. And the boss says,
Speaker 2: you're going to be in charge of the Reform Party
Speaker 2: the next election. And the guy goes the Reform Party.
Speaker 2: But Boss, you know you're not the reform He says,
Speaker 2: I'm all the parties. Hell, Hell's son, I'm all the parties. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you know, and isn't that the truth?
Speaker 1: We're gonna put you in charge of investigating voter front.
Speaker 1: It's such a good job out there. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I once asked a guy, I'm not the sharpest, why
Speaker 2: am I doing this? I mean, there's no there's there's
Speaker 2: not very few. There's not a lot of people poking
Speaker 2: around where I poke around, and and you know, probably
Speaker 2: because because they fix it though it's not wildly remunerative
Speaker 2: and you're discouraged. You know, you say I'm going to
Speaker 2: write a science You know, you can do what I'm
Speaker 2: doing right now if you fictionalize it. Okay, fictionalized, fictionalize
Speaker 2: it enough. But my tendency has just been to pursue
Speaker 2: what I'm interested in without getting to the point. But
Speaker 2: maybe that's the point I'm finally reaching at any rate.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here to tell you that that I
Speaker 2: know stuff about Russiagate that that nobody else knows. And
Speaker 2: the reason I know stuff about about it, and you know,
Speaker 2: believe me, I am not pretending to know the whole
Speaker 2: story of Russiagate, you know, by any means. But what
Speaker 2: I saw beginning in two thousand and eight was was
Speaker 2: was stuff being done by guys who had continuity with
Speaker 2: stuff I'd seen before. Okay, For example, Verry Steals murdered.
Speaker 2: Well do you have is your audience? Do they do
Speaker 2: they know by Barry Zeal they know about this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. Very Seal gets assassinated in nineteen eighty six
Speaker 2: or seven, and the next year his lawyer, his his
Speaker 2: in house lawyer who sued me for emotional distress, and
Speaker 2: so I cannot disclose his name. He incorporated the company
Speaker 2: in Florida called Nationwide Vans for a guy, a Saudi
Speaker 2: by the name of romy Olbatrawi, who it turns out
Speaker 2: was the chief lieutenant of Van then Koshoki. So Barry
Speaker 2: sales guys incorporating something for Koshoki then in ninety one
Speaker 2: ninety two doesn't come out to ninety six, but the
Speaker 2: Defense Intelligence Agency does a big report on I'm called
Speaker 2: thean drug traffickers supporting the government down there, and Koshoki's
Speaker 2: prominent on the list at the inn Kyoshoki. Okay, And
Speaker 2: then it turns out out, okay, I'm here in Florida
Speaker 2: and and two big two big drug drug rug drug
Speaker 2: trafficking things happened, and two thousand and six, two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven, that just reared their heads like you know,
Speaker 2: like like like King Kong, you know, getting out of
Speaker 2: the ground. A DC nine from Saint Petersburg was busted
Speaker 2: with five and a half tons of cocaine. And that's
Speaker 2: actually a really interesting story what they both are. But
Speaker 2: then the following year, a Gulf Stream was busted near
Speaker 2: the same place in Mexico with four more than four
Speaker 2: tons of cocaine. And the ownership of the two planes
Speaker 2: is interlinked, okay, I mean if you look at it,
Speaker 2: I mean some of the people that owned one plane
Speaker 2: owned on one owned the other, okay at one time.
Speaker 2: And and if you're and I had realized a long
Speaker 2: time ago that the CIA just it it's aviation assets
Speaker 2: around it doesn't matter, if you know. And then and
Speaker 2: they move them, move them around regularly every every couple
Speaker 2: of years, but they never sell them. But they never
Speaker 2: I have never found a plane that I have Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, both both these planes had government government connections. Okay,
Speaker 2: the DC nine, which was flying out of the same
Speaker 2: airport in Florida that the Coast Guard and Customs and
Speaker 2: Border Patrol their main aviation assets right there, right and
Speaker 2: there's DC nine is flying out of there, and it's
Speaker 2: it's taxing up and down the apron, looking like a
Speaker 2: government plane. It's got a big seal on the side.
Speaker 2: You know that it's the sky but you know, and
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't see what it says. It's a
Speaker 2: sky with aircraft. It does it's a US government. But
Speaker 2: I mean it's got the ego. It looks exactly like
Speaker 2: a government seal, and it's painted exactly like a government plane.
Speaker 2: And it's taken for a government plane down there. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's taken for a government plane.
Speaker 1: The air traffic people and the people who run the airport,
Speaker 1: they think it's a government playing with them. Don't they
Speaker 1: have paperwork, wouldn't they know?
Speaker 2: Well, it's just another level of of of First of all,
Speaker 2: First of all, I mean it doesn't matter. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're an air traffic controller in Mexico, you do
Speaker 2: what you're told, you know, so you don't go boss,
Speaker 2: there's a strange plane here. Somebody somebody just took off
Speaker 2: from a dirt runway and it's like trying to evade
Speaker 2: us on the radar. You know, that doesn't happen like
Speaker 2: you know, that's the whole story. That's the whole story
Speaker 2: against planet. Okay. You know who controls the distribution of
Speaker 2: the pipeline up to hear Is is guys who own
Speaker 2: airports down there, you know, the richest Mexicans, Carlos slim them,
Speaker 2: God love him. Okay comes close to looking like the
Speaker 2: prototype of what you'd think like a major drug trafficker
Speaker 2: would look like. It's not some, it's not some, it's
Speaker 2: not uh Elchpo Guzman, you know, hanging out in the
Speaker 2: mountains of Sineloa, you know, with bandoliers strapped across his chest.
Speaker 2: Doesn't work that way. You got to be able to
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to have lunch with Jamie's
Speaker 2: Jamie Dimon at JP Morgan Chase. You can't look like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like you just dug a tunnel, right, you can't
Speaker 1: look like he just came from underground.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. That's what again, that's what you're
Speaker 2: paying for, that's what that's what you're paying some rich
Speaker 2: industrialists in Mexico to deal with somebody here that that's
Speaker 2: what this guy's are. You know, he's got plausible deniability,
Speaker 2: which is which is what you or I would want
Speaker 2: if we were in the same musician, am I right?
Speaker 1: Well, how does this connect those to the Russian mob
Speaker 1: and what Mueller found in his report? The cliff Notes
Speaker 1: version of what Mueller found.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I'm interested in everything to do with
Speaker 2: the people that had anything to do with just these
Speaker 2: two planes, all right, and an Kashoki going back on
Speaker 2: both of them. And Ashoki the Russian I mean or
Speaker 2: the Saudi, you know. I mean, he's an American asset.
Speaker 2: He's the CIA guy. He's he's the Jude you know,
Speaker 2: going back, he's actually been involved in every American major
Speaker 2: American scandal since the seventies. Okay, He's he's the actually,
Speaker 2: you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, right, this is
Speaker 2: six degrees of is you know he is somehow involved.
Speaker 2: He was, He's the he was on around Contra. He
Speaker 2: was in and you don't remember this because you probably
Speaker 2: weren't born yet, the Lockheed bribery scandal in the mid seventies.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been there, he was that, and he
Speaker 2: owned both explaints. He and his you know, through his
Speaker 2: lieutenant romy Albatrowie Okay, who is himself a piece of work.
Speaker 2: Rommiy Albatrowie. Actually I think he showok his lieutenant Okay,
Speaker 2: is the perfect sample of transnational organized because he's Saudi,
Speaker 2: but he's not Saudi. And the reasoning he's not Saudi
Speaker 2: is because he was born in Geneva. So he's the
Speaker 2: son of a Saudi rich Saudi Okay, general. I thought
Speaker 2: he was a general or a diplomat. I was born
Speaker 2: in Geneva. So he's he's he's transnational from the get go.
Speaker 1: The guy that owns the the big hot the big
Speaker 1: department store there, right, who's the guy.
Speaker 2: Mohammed? Yeah, he would at Naka Shogi's son in law or.
Speaker 1: Something, right, And what's his connection to to this guy Kashogi,
Speaker 1: the one that was chopped up over there? What's his
Speaker 1: relationship was his nephew nephew for nephew?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I am. I don't pretend to
Speaker 2: know anything about Saudi politics and wouldn't know who he?
Speaker 2: You know? And and he you know, what do you
Speaker 2: what do you make? He go ahead, go ahead, starts in.
Speaker 1: But what do you make of this? You know, the
Speaker 1: all the reporters are sitting around, they're talking about this
Speaker 1: guy Kashog gets chopped up. No one mentions he's related
Speaker 1: to and says, hey, mister Trump, that's the guy related
Speaker 1: to the guy you bought the big ship from, you
Speaker 1: bought the big yacht from. No one says that.
Speaker 2: No, that's look, that's my position. That's just bizarre, Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm the only I see it. But I'm
Speaker 2: the only one that sees it, Okay. And I was
Speaker 2: here a year after nine to eleven, like when I
Speaker 2: knew the story wasn't in New York City because I
Speaker 2: was like rubble, Okay, the story was like, you know,
Speaker 2: track down what these guys were doing in the in
Speaker 2: the twelve months before the attack because they were here. Okay,
Speaker 2: but you didn't read any major books about them here.
Speaker 2: You read books about them in Hamburg and about this
Speaker 2: and that and the other, but none of those big
Speaker 2: books focused on them here. And even though even though
Speaker 2: one of the major books, one of the major writers
Speaker 2: came down and spent all told a month with me here,
Speaker 2: and and uh it was it was a footnote in
Speaker 2: the book. He just he just was scared off completely.
Speaker 2: And and and he's a guy whose name you know,
Speaker 2: was well respected, I mean on the left, you know,
Speaker 2: among people. Oh yeah, he wrote, he wrote a big
Speaker 2: book about the Kennedy assassination. But by the time he
Speaker 2: got here, he was he was well placed. You know,
Speaker 2: we're okay, so to finish Okay, yeah, I see this stuff,
Speaker 2: all right? And I went. I went to a friend
Speaker 2: of mine back in Newport Beach, where I lived when
Speaker 2: I was in California most recently, who uh spent a
Speaker 2: career as I thought it was the NSA, but maybe
Speaker 2: it was c I ah, because I've heard now both.
Speaker 2: And I went to him and I said, I said, Dick,
Speaker 2: I said, how come I it was some major revelation
Speaker 2: about Barry Seal it would have been back then, I said, Dick,
Speaker 2: how come this is so easy, you know, for me
Speaker 2: to see. I said, I'm you know, I can't be
Speaker 2: the smartest guy in the world. I'm pretty smart, but
Speaker 2: you know, and and he he just looked at me
Speaker 2: and he said, he said, I said, how come welcome,
Speaker 2: I can see this, And he said, because they don't,
Speaker 2: they don't bother to hide it, which was pretty deflating.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go, hey, you're a
Speaker 2: pretty sharp investigator, you know. Here hav An Apple now
Speaker 2: it's because they don't bother trying to hide it, which
Speaker 2: is because because no one know, they know, no one's
Speaker 2: going to go after it or you know, not all
Speaker 2: the time, but much of the time. So a half
Speaker 2: dozen guys important in Russia Gate had crossed my radar
Speaker 2: long before Russia Gate because they were involved with guys
Speaker 2: I knew were involved in drug trafficking. Okay, long story short,
Speaker 2: there is I knew who o Legg Derek Pasca was
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I didn't know, you know, and
Speaker 2: Olig Deripaska is the Oliver North of Russia Gate. Okay,
Speaker 2: he was. He's the guy running around, you know, looking
Speaker 2: self important. That was Olig Derepaska, and I was. I
Speaker 2: was following him. And because I was following him, I
Speaker 2: was following him by about two thousand and five, two
Speaker 2: thousand and six. And because I was following him, when
Speaker 2: Trump sold a mansion to another Russian oligarchy that I
Speaker 2: knew was connected to Ola Deripaska, I went hmm, and
Speaker 2: I looked into it a little more, and then I
Speaker 2: went hmm, and I wrote about it. And that was
Speaker 2: like two thousand and eight. Okay, and that guy ribola
Speaker 2: lives name hard to say, but but but the trump
Speaker 2: one undred fifty million dollars for him, I mean, Ribololev
Speaker 2: is no idiot. He's not going to be twice what
Speaker 2: uh what a manch and is appraised at. And that's
Speaker 2: what he did, more than twice. So fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: went went, you know, was off the books. And that's
Speaker 2: what you want, is operations that are off the books.
Speaker 2: You want to own hotels, uh and in places where
Speaker 2: you can. We're small notts of Kashkamn, right, you want
Speaker 2: to want to run it. You want to run hotels
Speaker 2: because because you can, you can. You can own a hotel.
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, that's got like you know, notebookings
Speaker 2: at all, like like and you can show it on
Speaker 2: the books as if it's like, you know, on the
Speaker 2: hottest hotel in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Who's going to know someone's staying in the room in
Speaker 1: that and.
Speaker 2: And and this is the end of the This is
Speaker 2: the end of the business. That's those interesting. And this
Speaker 2: is the end of the business that's most important. It's
Speaker 2: the money end. Okay, it's the money laundering because what's
Speaker 2: the point of being involved in organized crime? Let's face it,
Speaker 2: what's the point of being involved the trans you know,
Speaker 2: the power thing, for the for the guys that are
Speaker 2: running it. But but if you can't spend the money,
Speaker 2: you want to be able to spend the money. And
Speaker 2: that's why that's why, that's why Russia is so pissed
Speaker 2: at the US. That's why, that's why they're so pissed.
Speaker 2: That's why Putin is so pissed because it's his Oligeraposket
Speaker 2: that can't spend his money here, okay. And and the
Speaker 2: question is, I mean, from everything I've seen, and believe me,
Speaker 2: I'm not like a world a world traveler, but they've
Speaker 2: got the slickest organized crime operation in the world. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's an integrated you know, it's the general motors of
Speaker 2: organized crime, because the government and the mob is the
Speaker 2: same thing, and the too, well that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's one thing. And do you want I don't want.
Speaker 2: Do you want uh that group having having having access
Speaker 2: to American capital markets? I mean, no fucking way. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's ips I just said a bad word. I
Speaker 2: don't know, you can't say that's you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: I's so fact though. Corruption Do you think do you.
Speaker 1: Think there's enough of that money floating around that they
Speaker 1: could pay off both sides of the aisle and cover
Speaker 1: up this mute report.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we're gonna see. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: a political insider. I mean, you know, certainly, I'm hoping
Speaker 2: for the best. But you know what I've I've always
Speaker 2: said that I don't I don't have much good to
Speaker 2: say about Republicans, okay, but but I haven't even less
Speaker 2: good to say about Democrats, because like, Democrats will break
Speaker 2: your heart every time you'll you'll try really hard, and
Speaker 2: you know, I mean Bernie was an example of that,
Speaker 2: just the most recent I mean, you know, going back
Speaker 2: to the fucking sixties, the Democratic Democratic Party is you know,
Speaker 2: when when push comes to show, you know. So, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen. I'm certainly I think
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna take it's going to take billions of
Speaker 2: people in the streets to make it happen. I think
Speaker 2: that's that's what it's going to come down to.
Speaker 1: What do you make a bar bar In his history
Speaker 1: and his connections to iran conscient all that is this
Speaker 1: guy safe to be a judge investigation.
Speaker 2: Well, let's consider him. On the one hand, he's uh
Speaker 2: uh nearing retirement, okay, and and he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be seen as the villain and like the biggest organized
Speaker 2: cover up in history. Okay, But then look at who
Speaker 2: he is on this On the other side. He plays ball. Okay,
Speaker 2: he plays ball. That's that's what you can say about
Speaker 2: all of these guys here. They play ball. So, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, this is this is going to be an
Speaker 2: interesting time in American history because if you know, if
Speaker 2: they released the Mule Report and it turns out I've
Speaker 2: been wrong, I'm cool with that. I mean, if you know, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, it was just but that's not that's that's
Speaker 2: not what it is. So what it is is going
Speaker 2: to be the subject in the next two years of
Speaker 2: American history.
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, because because we're running out of time,
Speaker 1: what can it tell usbout connections between Trump, Koshogi, and
Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank.
Speaker 2: They're obviously part of Well let's just look at it
Speaker 2: from the out side. Okay. There was a time when
Speaker 2: Donald Trump couldn't couldn't, couldn't borrow any money at all. Okay,
Speaker 2: A guy down here. At the same time, the guy
Speaker 2: down here here in Venice, you know, couldn't buy aviation
Speaker 2: fuel for cash. Somebody told me Trump couldn't couldn't raise
Speaker 2: cash in America at all, and Deutsche Bank was running
Speaker 2: to him. And during the same time period, adding the
Speaker 2: Koshogi was running a scam with financial scam with Deutsche
Speaker 2: Bank's willing involvement that netted three hundred to five hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars and for which Doutsch Deutsche Bank was forced
Speaker 2: to pay a two hundred and seventy eight million dollar fine. Okay,
Speaker 2: do those two events implicate Deutsche Bank in some larger conspiracy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I bet I suspect so.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned here also too, there's a connection between
Speaker 1: one of the Russian hackers in Koshoge.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean that's a dude. There's a
Speaker 2: ton of things they found here. Okay, just because I
Speaker 2: would just pipe Okay, us cups customs agent in Louisiana
Speaker 2: retired and told me something that's turned on to be
Speaker 2: like with the most interesting advice I ever got, which
Speaker 2: was easy. There's not a lot of players out there, right,
Speaker 2: they all know. So if you see somebody that was involved. Okay,
Speaker 2: Asa Hutchinson was a prosecutor in Western Arkansas, US prosecutor
Speaker 2: when they were moving tons of drugs through Mina, Arkansas
Speaker 2: and never saw a thing. Okay, twenty years later or
Speaker 2: twenty five years later, George Buship points, he'sa Hutchinson to
Speaker 2: head the DEA. Okay, it happened. I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: his area of expertise, right that. That's that's so there's
Speaker 2: they keep being recycled. And William Barr was involved in
Speaker 2: in you know, BCC. He was involved in cover ups
Speaker 2: and he fingered figures prominently in a book that was
Speaker 2: written in nineteen Jesus nineteen ninety two. So the book
Speaker 2: could not have could not have set out to slander
Speaker 2: William Barr. And William Barr was involved in the MINA
Speaker 2: operation exactly with George Bush and and and Bill Clinton. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I talked to Chip Tatum and he said right off
Speaker 1: the bed. He says, oh, yeah, he was up to
Speaker 1: his neck and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ship Chiptatum, Chiptatum was there. Chip Tatum is
Speaker 2: one of Yeah, you know, I've always chip Datum was there,
Speaker 2: Chip Datum Witer was there. So and and he was.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he came out and talked, you know,
Speaker 2: because I'm not on the inside. You know, they would know,
Speaker 2: but but he did and he managed to live through it.
Speaker 2: So uh more power to send some people on my
Speaker 2: website madcalprod dot com have have him pre ordered Gangster Planet.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start putting up the little video here this
Speaker 2: weekend on that. And uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I wish there was a way people could support your
Speaker 1: work more that if they had like a paywall with
Speaker 1: some content up there, a Patreon account of something like that.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything like that?
Speaker 2: I have nothing like that, you know, until now he
Speaker 2: even thought of it, you know, I just you know,
Speaker 2: But now now now I have to do something like
Speaker 2: that because because I need money to bubblish Gangster Planet,
Speaker 2: and so I'm gonna have to uh become more active. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I encourage everyone more proactive. Is the webmaster or something
Speaker 2: any and if any of your audience like is web
Speaker 2: webmaster e you know, have him get in touch with me,
Speaker 2: because that's a skill I don't particularly ever want to learn.
Speaker 1: As soon as I get off the phone with you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on the phone my friend over here
Speaker 1: to Uh, Daniel Hopsticker, thank you so much, Madcowprode dot com.
Speaker 1: And the new book is called Gangster Planet. But don't
Speaker 1: forget the old books. Uh, the Flying Circus there and
Speaker 1: the Barry and the Boys. You gotta get all these books.
Speaker 1: Daniel Hopsicker, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Good night brother. Okay, there we have Daniel Hopsticker. Hey,
Speaker 1: you got to check out his website, madcowprod dot com.
Speaker 1: He used to be called Mad Cow Production or something
Speaker 1: like that, but now it's the Mad Cow Prode. The
Speaker 1: new book is Gangster Planet.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Daniel Hopsticker is the real deal. Okay, He's been around forever.
Speaker 1: He lived with Barry Seale's wife. Man, this guy has
Speaker 1: been in the trenches for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: The guys should have a Pulitzer prize and he needs
Speaker 1: our support. Okay, he doesn't have any even a donate
Speaker 1: button set up yet, but we're gonna get that done
Speaker 1: for him by the end of the week. Daniel Hopsicker,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. If you like tonight's show, check
Speaker 1: out Oppermanreport dot com. That's where we have our special
Speaker 1: member section and I need your support.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: You know what the hell I'm.
Speaker 2: Going through here.
Speaker 1: You know this is an easy stuff, guys, and you
Speaker 1: know we just really got our ask cacts really bad
Speaker 1: over here too. So if you can support our show
Speaker 1: here by becoming a member. I know we haven't been
Speaker 1: updating the members section, but there's two hundred shows in there,
Speaker 1: and now I got somebody working on on pixing up
Speaker 1: the website too, Oppermanreport dot com. If you want to
Speaker 1: become a member, you can email me directly at Opperman
Speaker 1: Report at gmail dot com. I'll give you a discount
Speaker 1: thirteen months or sixty five dollars. I didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to read any ads while we had Daniel on
Speaker 1: the show, but Daniel's a legend man. He's this is
Speaker 1: the guy who laughs when he hears the word deep state,
Speaker 1: because the guy was there when the phrase is being
Speaker 1: coined by Peter Dale Scott. All right, guys, God bless
Speaker 1: you all. Thank you so much, and please support the
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Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Daniel Hops Madcowprade dot com.