WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.879 --> 00:00:05.960 What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Whenever 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:09.279 there's a case like this, I'm always fascinated by the 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:13.480 portion of it that has to do with surveillance. You 4 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:18.359 have these investigators who sit on these perpetrators and they 5 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:22.879 continuously watch them. They're following their movements, They're tracking their movements, 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:27.160 they're following their phone calls or emails, and all at 7 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:30.920 the same time, the suspect is not aware that this 8 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.960 is even happening. So the people who are involved in 9 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.679 these surveillance operations are the best of the best when 10 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.240 it comes to this. And as critical as I am 11 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:43.920 of the FBI, and boy do they deserve it, they 12 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.200 are great when it comes to surveillance and putting together 13 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.000 cases such as this, And if they would stick to 14 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.920 this kind of thing, the FBI would be on a 15 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:56.920 pathway to rebuilding their credibility because this is where the 16 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.799 agency excels. This is where the agency has has always 17 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:05.680 excelled surveillance, collecting data and then utilizing all of that 18 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.840 intelligence to not only build a case, but make an arrest. 19 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.359 And that's what we see in here. And today we 20 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:15.480 have an article from Newsweek discussing how surveillance helped catch 21 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:22.120 Brian Coburger. So let's dive in headline how police surveillance 22 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:27.599 helped catch Idaho murder suspect Brian Coburger. This article was 23 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:35.400 authored by Kalida Rockman. Police reportedly surveiled the man accused 24 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:39.000 of the November slayings of four University of Idaho students 25 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:43.239 as he traveled across the country in Pennsylvania before swooping 26 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.799 in to make an after dark arrest. So they followed 27 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.400 him all the way across the country, according to these reports, 28 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:53.879 and that must have taken a serious amount of logistics 29 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.680 to do something like that. It's one thing to follow 30 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.519 somebody around in town. It's a whole nother ball of 31 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:05.760 wax to do that across the country. Brian Cohberger, a 32 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.560 twenty eight year old PhD student and teaching assistant in 33 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:13.400 the Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology at Washington State University, 34 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.240 was arrested at his parents' home in all Brightsville, Pennsylvania, 35 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.719 on Friday. Authorities in Idaho have said they believe Coburger 36 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.719 broke into the victim's rental home in Moscow intending to 37 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:29.439 commit murder. And once again, you see that's the premeditation there, 38 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:31.879 and I'm going to keep pointing that out because the 39 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:36.360 robbery charge is for that purpose, to make sure that 40 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:42.319 they get that premeditation. Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Xaniker Nodle, 41 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.840 and Ethan Chapin were found stabbed to death on November thirteenth. 42 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:50.280 The killings rocked the rural town and the community remained 43 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:54.360 on edge as weeks went by without a suspect being arrested. 44 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:56.840 And of course the community is going to be on edge. 45 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.240 No suspect arrested for murdered college student. Nobody knows who 46 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.159 the suspect is. Yeah, that's the recipe for a people 47 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:11.240 being a bit panicked. Police honed in on Coburger as 48 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.800 a suspect in the slayings through DNA by using public 49 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:20.840 genealogy databases. ABC News reported, citing law enforcement sources. According 50 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.159 to the outlet, local police in the FBI tracked Coburger 51 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.000 to Pennsylvania through his vehicle, a white Hondai Lantra, the 52 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:31.520 same model that the Moscow police said had been seen 53 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.159 near the home around the time of the killings. So 54 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.400 that's interesting. I wonder how they did that. Probably somebody 55 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:41.199 put a GPS underneath the car or on the car somewhere, 56 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.599 and that allowed the police to follow them. I'm not 57 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.280 really too sure how they'd be able to do this 58 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.000 across the country without having some sort of GPS device 59 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.240 implanted in the vehicle. And don't think that they're not 60 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.439 capable of doing that. They are, especially the Organized Crime 61 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.599 Task Force, And my guess is they have counter intelligence 62 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.560 agents working with the FBI who can step in and 63 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.439 assist here to make sure that this vehicle is tracked 64 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.960 in the proper manner. Coburger drove some twenty five hundred 65 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.000 miles across the country with his father in mid December 66 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.160 to spend the holidays with his family. Jason Lebar, the 67 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:22.519 chief public Defender in Monroe County representing Coburger, has said 68 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.279 at a news conference on Tuesday, Pennsylvania State Police Major 69 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.639 Christopher Paris said troopers with the agency's Bureau of Criminal 70 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.759 Investigation were called by the FBI to assist with surveillance 71 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.920 on Coburger before his arrest. So once they found out 72 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.399 where he was, they called the local office of the 73 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.560 FBI the police to come and sit on them and 74 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.959 wait for them to get the necessary documents, meaning warrants 75 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.519 and the rest of it to make an arrest. So 76 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.959 they had them sitting on this house making sure that 77 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.199 Coburger didn't make a move or try to run or 78 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:03.240 go anywhere else, said investigators from Pennsylvania State Police Troop End. 79 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:06.959 Then began to collaborate with authorities in Idaho. And that's 80 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.120 how it'll work, especially with the FBI involved. Forget it. 81 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.040 The coordination should be on point, and if you want 82 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:17.079 to get the attention of agencies elsewhere, having the FBI 83 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:19.680 involved will certainly get them moving in the right direction. 84 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.199 It was through this collaboration and the charges pending in Idaho, 85 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.759 and those troopers were able to obtain a search warrant 86 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.040 and a fugitive from Justice warrant that was prepared here 87 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:35.000 in Monroe County, Paris said, And that all happens with 88 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.439 the coordination from Moscow into Paris County. So they would 89 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.639 call down, they'd send over whatever, you know, charging documents 90 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.600 or whatever they have, and then the arrest warrant would 91 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:48.319 be issued by a judge in Pennsylvania, or i should 92 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.800 say the search warrant issue, so it would be issued 93 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.120 by a judge down in Pennsylvania. And you see how 94 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.439 this all has to be coordinated. It's not just an 95 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.600 easy thing, right. You have to worry about jurisdiction. You 96 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:02.319 have to worry about local rules and laws and ordinances. 97 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.399 So you have to make sure you're on your shit, 98 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.240 and it certainly seems like the investigators from Moscow were 99 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:13.560 on their game, Paris said. State police then began to 100 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.519 carry out Coburger's arrest, with the agency's Special Emergency Response 101 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:21.480 Team taking the lead. Tactical assets then were staged in 102 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.839 a Monroe County in the evening of Thursday, December twenty ninth, 103 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.279 and in the early hours of Friday, December thirtieth, those 104 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.879 warrants were executed at the location. Paris said. Coburgers warn't 105 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.319 merited and after dark arrest, Paris said, which requires a 106 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.800 higher standard of probable cause. And there's no doubt that 107 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:41.839 you have to have a higher standard to get this 108 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.519 kind of search warrant because we've had so many issues 109 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.279 with this sort of thing recently, especially that the government 110 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:53.519 is very cautious about handing this shit out at this point, 111 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.000 So whenever you see a raid like this, they're thinking 112 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.480 that the person that they're coming after or going after 113 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.279 could be a violent person and could cause harm to 114 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.680 themselves or the officers engaging in the raid. So what 115 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.720 they'll try and do is catch them unaware in the 116 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.319 middle of the night where while they're sleeping three am, 117 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.360 like we saw here at one am. Usually they'll kick 118 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.959 in your door about six am. But when they want 119 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.079 to come do something like this, they have to get 120 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.959 a special dispensation from the judge to make that happen. 121 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.120 Surveillance was conducted and we wanted to go in at 122 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.240 a time when we thought it would be safe. Is 123 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.000 for everybody, he said, safest for anybody else in the house, 124 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:38.319 safest for mister Coburger, and safest for our people. And 125 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:40.399 you see this a lot with drug dealers as well. 126 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.480 If they're going to go after a violent drug dealer 127 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.680 or something like that, they'll make sure it's at like 128 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.240 one in the morning, two in the morning, three in 129 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.000 the morning, and then a whole lass tactical team will 130 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.480 come through your window. The tactical response team reviewed floor 131 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.639 plans of the home and broke multiple doors and windows 132 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:01.240 when they entered. Paris said. Coburger was arrested without incident 133 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:04.279 and the scene was turned over to the FBI. He added. 134 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.680 Andrew McKay, a former FBI Acting director, said Saturday that 135 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:13.000 Coburger was on the radar of investigators before he left 136 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.360 for Pennsylvania. Oh, there's no doubt about that. They just 137 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.600 didn't have the probable cause. And my guess is when 138 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.240 they were following him, they picked up the DNA when 139 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.079 they were following him at some point, that's my guess, 140 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.720 and then they got that probable cause once they were 141 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.759 able to match the DNA. But there's no doubt that 142 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.080 they were on Coburger long before he even left to 143 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:38.240 go to Pennsylvania. The surveillance effort would have crossed multiple 144 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:43.039 FBI field divisions, McCabe said, would involve multiple surveillance teams 145 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.840 who were following him in certain areas and handing them 146 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.279 off to new teams. He said, And I guess it's 147 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.000 just like in the city. That's how they do it. 148 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.120 If they're following you in the city, he'll have one 149 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.559 agent follow you and then they'll get to a certain point, 150 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.279 they'll bounce off and the next person will pop in. 151 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.320 And I guess that's what happened here. To keep it 152 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:02.759 under wrapped, they just had people switching in and out 153 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:07.000 depending on what state Brian Coberger was in. So this 154 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.480 is all fascinating to me, and it has to be 155 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.559 a well oiled machine logistically for this to take place. 156 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.000 And it just goes to show that they were hard 157 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.200 at work behind the scenes even when we thought that 158 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.120 maybe there was nothing there. So this investigation was growing 159 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.159 and growing behind the scenes in Moscow while the public 160 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.360 and presumably Brian Koberger were none the wiser. So in retrospect, 161 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.720 when you look back on it, it was a master's 162 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:38.919 stroke by the Moscow Police Department. Coburger's family home was 163 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:42.679 probably under surveillance before he arrived in mid December, former 164 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:47.000 FBI agent Tracy Walter set on News Nations Banfield, I 165 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.320 am certain that the FBI resident agency that is closest 166 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.399 to his hometown in Pennsylvania was probably notified and probably 167 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:58.000 did some surveillance on his family home prior to Coburger 168 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:02.200 getting to his family home, told Ashley Banfield that way 169 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.759 they can know what they're walking into, have an idea 170 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.240 of the lay of the land, where they should put 171 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.039 the surveillance van and all of the tools that they're 172 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.600 going to need to do surveillance on Brian Coberger. So 173 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.759 they have to do a bit of pre production before 174 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:20.320 all of that happens. Additionally, I think they also watched 175 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.639 Coburger as well as his activities, and I think from that, 176 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.679 from surveilling his activities, they were able to really focus 177 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.120 in on the fact that he was a suspect, especially 178 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.240 when the lookout came out for the white HOUNDAI and 179 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.720 he happened to have one. So again the Alantra being 180 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.279 a big cause of pain and suffering for Brian Cohberger 181 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.000 and his defense moving forward. Remember it was this Alantra 182 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:50.080 that sparked the whole entire basically countrywide investigation for these 183 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.600 models of vehicle. So Brian Coberger with this vehicle and 184 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.399 then with his actions after being surveilled, the police, well, 185 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.240 they thought they had their guy, and after all was 186 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:06.440 said and done and the investigation took place, according to them, 187 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:11.759 they were on the money. Coburger on Tuesday, agreed to 188 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.759 be extradited from Pennsylvania to face charges in Idaho. Labar, 189 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.639 who only represented Coburger over the extradition, has said his 190 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.080 client was eager to be exonerated. The suspect wants in 191 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:26.919 Idaho is to be represented by Kootenay County chief public 192 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.759 defender and Taylor. Newsweek has contacted her for a comment. 193 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.159 More details about the case are expected to be released 194 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:40.360 when an affidavid is unsealed after Coburger arrives in Idaho. However, 195 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.519 an Idaho magistrate judge on Tuesday evening issued a so 196 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:50.039 called gag order barring attorneys, law enforcement personnel, investigators, and 197 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.639 others involved in the case from talking publicly about it 198 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.360 outside of court. Due to this court order, the Moscow 199 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:01.039 Police Department will no longer be communicated with the public 200 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.600 or the media regarding this case, the police department said 201 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.759 in a news release on Tuesday. So with the gag 202 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.039 order in place, the Moscow Police Department will no longer 203 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.879 be doing the updates or anything like that. But I 204 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.480 don't think it's needed at this point. Their part in 205 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.480 this is done. They're the ones who got the arrest, 206 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.159 They did the investigation. Now they hand it off to 207 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.840 the prosecutors, and now it's the prosecutor's turn to do 208 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:31.279 their job and turn this indictment into a conviction. All right, folks, 209 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.080 that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like 210 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.759 to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci 211 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:41.360 at proton mail dot com. That's bo Bby capu Cci 212 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.480 at proton mail dot com. You can also find me 213 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:49.919 on Twitter at bo Bby underscore c ap u Cci. 214 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.679 The link that I discussed can be found in the 215 00:12:52.720 --> 00:13:00.000 description box. Everyone, and welcome back to the program. As 216 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.120 investigators continue to look for the white Hondaei Alantra, we're 217 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:07.720 hearing a little bit more about what they're doing as 218 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.519 far as tracking down leads now. According to a report 219 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.000 from Fox News, investigators have traveled at least twenty four 220 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.519 miles to collect surveillance video related to these killings. So 221 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:25.879 they've been going to areas around Moscow, little town, stuff 222 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:30.399 like that, looking for other surveillance video, other evidence of 223 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:35.039 what happened here. And that's certainly reassuring. But my question is, 224 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.720 how did they miss that gas station where the clerk 225 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.080 came forward to provide information. I would think that something 226 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.240 like a gas station would be one of the first 227 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.600 places they would hit trying to get this surveillance. And 228 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.679 then we hear that they got surveillance from private residence 229 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.440 right after the day after, So it just makes you 230 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.519 shake your head. How is it that they missed this 231 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:59.399 gas station? But we're looking twenty four miles away. So 232 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:04.200 today's ourle is from Fox News headline Idaho murders. Investigators 233 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.559 traveled at least twenty four miles to collect surveillance video 234 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:13.399 related to the killings. Fox News confirmed investigators requested recovered 235 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.000 surveillance footage from several businesses in and around the Moscow 236 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.879 This article was authored by Matt Finn and John Ruhle. 237 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:28.279 Now it seems like they're relying on these businesses to 238 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:32.200 come forward with the surveillance footage. I would think that 239 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:35.399 the day of the discovery of the bodies, that they 240 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.879 would have sent investigators around to these businesses to collect 241 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.320 all of it right then. But if you're waiting on 242 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.320 collecting it and it's taking you some time, there's a 243 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:51.080 chance that the evidence goes away. Videos get deleted. Surveillance videos, 244 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.960 you know, they record over themselves, so there's always the 245 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:59.720 chance that something is missed if this isn't canvassed right away. 246 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.240 Fox News has learned investigators traveled at least twenty four 247 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.639 miles to the east of Moscow, Idaho, to the nearby 248 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.840 towns of Troy and Kendrick to acquire surveillance video in 249 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.440 relation to the quadruple homicide of four University of Idaho students, 250 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.399 and this is the proper thing to do. You don't 251 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.879 know where these people came from, or where this person 252 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.559 came from. Did they get gas here in Kendrick, did 253 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:29.360 they get gas in Troy? We don't know. And as 254 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:34.240 the police continue to scour for evidence for surveillance video, 255 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:38.080 hopefully it's going to make that picture come into a 256 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:41.679 much more clear view because as of now, you know, 257 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.279 it's a a needle in a haystack, right, a Hondai alantra. 258 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.919 As the investigators have already said, they have over twenty 259 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:53.080 two thousand registered Hondai lantras that they have to go through. 260 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.519 What about the ones that aren't registered, what about the 261 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.200 ones that have been stolen and all the rest of that. 262 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.960 So it's a pretty large task here. And you would 263 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.720 think that if it was somebody local, somebody would have 264 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.960 come forward already and been like, hey, my neighbor Joe Blow, 265 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.440 he has this exact car and he's been acting goofy. 266 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.360 But we haven't seen anything like that. So it's one 267 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.759 of those cases where there's no precedent for this, right, 268 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.320 there's no Oh, usually this is happening that can go 269 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.480 right out the window in this case. An employee at 270 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.519 a gas station in Troy, Idaho, about twelve miles east 271 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.960 of Moscow on Highway eight tells Fox News investigators asked 272 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.000 for video, but their property does not have a camera 273 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.279 facing outside. A manager from the Food City store in Kendrick, 274 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.080 about twenty four miles east of Moscow, tells Fox News 275 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:50.159 investigators asked for a video from cameras on their property. Now, 276 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.120 I think it's a great thing that they're out doing this, 277 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.919 But how did they miss the gas station that's only 278 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.320 a few miles away from this house? How is it 279 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.919 that that clerk had to go through that surveillance video 280 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:04.519 themselves and let the police know. Shouldn't the police have 281 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.799 just come there and taken that surveillance video. Maybe I'm 282 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.839 missing something here. That manager tells Fox News that on 283 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:16.160 November thirtieth, the Idaho State Police requested video ranging from 284 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.960 November twelfth to November fourteenth, and the business was able 285 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.519 to digitally provide that surveillance footage. Neither the gas station 286 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.839 nor the food store indicated they thoroughly look through their 287 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.559 own video for anything unusual. So wait a minute, hold 288 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.640 on so this happened on the thirteenth. It took them 289 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.480 seventeen days to get up there and collect this footage. 290 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:39.599 I would think that that would be one of the 291 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.200 first things you do, go around and say, hey, anyone 292 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:49.200 got surveillance here. Fox News also confirms investigators requested surveillance 293 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.920 video from dozens of businesses within the town of Moscow, 294 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.680 including a liquor store, a coffee shop, a gym, and 295 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.759 a gas station. On Tuesday, Fox News Digital obtained to 296 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.119 still frame from the gas station surveillance video that shows 297 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.559 a four door white Sedan drive by around three forty 298 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.799 five am on the morning of the murders. Investigators have 299 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.519 said that the students were killed between three am and 300 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.720 four AM. So I'm still stuck on the fact that 301 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:20.720 it took them seventeen days to go around and look 302 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.720 for footage. How much footage has been destroyed by that 303 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:28.640 point or recorded over? Thankfully, this food market has some 304 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:32.640 kind of digital surveillance. But these smaller stores, convenience stores, 305 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:34.680 do you really think that they have the money to 306 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.200 just store all these videos and keep them forever. I'm 307 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.279 sure they get rid of them, you know, weekly or 308 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:44.680 bi weekly or something like that. At most places, and 309 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:49.359 it takes you seventeen days to get out there and canvas. 310 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.079 On Thursday afternoon, the acting Public Information Officer for Moscow Police, 311 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.920 Robbie Johnson, told Fox News that investigators are coming through 312 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.720 information on twenty two thousand, white twenty and eleven through 313 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:09.160 twenty and thirteen Hondai, a launtras registered in the Washington 314 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.440 and Idaho region. Police are asking the public to be 315 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.079 on the lookout for the Hondai, saying the white car 316 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.400 was at or near the crime scene on November thirteenth, 317 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:22.759 and as of Thursday afternoon, the driver or possible occupants 318 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.240 have yet to come forward. So my guess is, and 319 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.400 this is just a guest, remember that whoever was driving 320 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:32.680 this Hondi, they know there's an investigation going on, and 321 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.119 they know that people are looking for them, and if 322 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:38.119 they haven't come forward, there's probably a reason why they 323 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:43.039 haven't come forward, Because I don't know anyone who doesn't 324 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:45.079 know about this case at this point. I mean, I 325 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.960 guess we can say that the driver might not have 326 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.759 any clue about what's going on, but I think that 327 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:55.119 would be a bridge that's pretty far, right, thinking that 328 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.519 with all of the coverage of this, all of the 329 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:01.759 news coverage, especially locally. That's someone who's a local has 330 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.160 no idea what's going on here. That's a hard sell. 331 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.480 And if they are local and they have this vehicle 332 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:10.759 and they haven't come forward, then we have to ask 333 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.079 ourselves why haven't they come forward? So I can't get 334 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.400 rid of the feeling that when all is said and done, 335 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.799 we're going to find out that this was a stolen vehicle. 336 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:23.839 Now again, I can't say that with certainty. It's just 337 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.000 a hunch that I have. And if this killer was smart, 338 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.279 they certainly wouldn't be using a car that was registered 339 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.960 to them, right and with how easy it is to 340 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.160 steal this model of car, I think it's something that 341 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.960 has to be explored. And my guess is law enforcement 342 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.119 is exploring that avenue as we speak. We don't know 343 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:45.359 who owns this car. We need information from anybody that 344 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.279 might connect us with who was in the car that night, 345 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.880 Johnson told Fox News. So that could be anything ranging 346 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.279 from somebody who happened to be there to whatever you 347 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.720 might imagine. Police say the license is unknown, and Johnson 348 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.279 would not clarify if the license plate could have been removed, 349 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.240 which is certainly possible as well, if it wasn't a 350 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.759 stolen car and it's something that you know, it's your 351 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.480 mode of transportation. At the very least, you'd want to 352 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.119 take off that license plate if you plan on walking 353 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.000 into a house and slaughtering four people while they were asleep, right, 354 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:23.480 that would make sense. Fox News asked Johnson how many 355 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.559 miles outside of Moscow police might have traveled to a 356 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.359 request video surveillance. She would not specify, but said video 357 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.599 or tips could essentially come from anywhere in the country. 358 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.599 It's not just one thing that we're looking about looking 359 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.880 into about the white car. It's many, many different things 360 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:43.240 and just taking that further until we get the answers 361 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.799 we need or find it is not taking us anywhere, 362 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:51.640 Johnson said, So they're all over it. And from that 363 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:55.160 statement by Robbie Johnson, it would lead me to believe 364 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.279 that the police don't have all of their eggs in 365 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.119 one basket. Thinking that this vehicle is still in the 366 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.559 direct region of Moscow, and with her saying that forget it, 367 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.000 who knows where the hell of the Lantra is. I mean, 368 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.279 at this point, you would think that whoever was in 369 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:12.079 possession of it, if they were involved in this crime, 370 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.640 has gotten rid of the vehicle by this point, burned it, 371 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.200 left it in the desert. Whatever. But if you're gonna 372 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.920 be driving around in this Honda Alantra and you're involved 373 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:26.039 in these crimes, your time is short. Eventually you're gonna 374 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:28.240 get caught. If you're in the same vehicle that was 375 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:30.759 used at the crime scene, oh yeah, your time is 376 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.599 not long. Now. The question is, is the perpetrator or 377 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:39.240 perpetrators still in possession of this vehicle. If they're smart, 378 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:43.039 they wouldn't be. But who knows what we're dealing with here. Again, 379 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:46.480 we have no idea what really happened that night, besides 380 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.559 some of the basics that have been released by the investigators, 381 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:54.000 and besides that, it's just all speculation and theory. So 382 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.759 until they find this white Hondai Alantra or announce another 383 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:00.400 break in the case, it would seem that the white 384 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.200 Hondai a Lantra and the people who are driving it 385 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:07.920 are the focus of the investigation. All right, folks, that's 386 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:09.640 gonna do it for this one. 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As we continue to 393 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.519 inch ever closer to the start of the Brian Kolberger trial, 394 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.640 we are learning more and more every day about the 395 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.559 investigation into Brian Coldberger and the case that was built 396 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.359 against him after he became the target of the investigation. 397 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.920 And according to Dayline, they have new video of Brian 398 00:23:54.000 --> 00:24:00.160 Colberger's alleged car circling around the victims home multiple times 399 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:04.839 and then it sped away thirteen minutes later. So this 400 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.359 is footage that hadn't been seen before by the public 401 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.559