Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to this episode of Hammering Now. I'm my
Speaker 1: host Caro Hodges. I'm hoping you're having a great, great day.
Speaker 1: A couple of things where we get into this episode.
Speaker 1: This is just gonna be talking about Indie eleven. We're
Speaker 1: not really going to get into the upcoming Louse City match. However,
Speaker 1: there are a good contingency of fans going to lou
Speaker 1: City away So if you are looking to go to
Speaker 1: an away day, there's a lot of Legion fans playing
Speaker 1: to make this trip. So going up there Lynn family
Speaker 1: is awesome. It's a great time. I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to go, but I wish I could. I hope
Speaker 1: you all enjoy your trip up there. Apparently there's this
Speaker 1: really good food spot on the way, so I on
Speaker 1: the tag team in with the Magic Sua Brigade and
Speaker 1: check that out. A couple of things in terms of
Speaker 1: the two team and the women's team. Women's team just
Speaker 1: got a nice to one win over one Knox, getting
Speaker 1: a little revenge over their one nil defeat last time.
Speaker 1: They are playing tomorrow on the tenth against Asheville City,
Speaker 1: So go watch the women's team there. There might be
Speaker 1: a venue change if it is moved to oh gosh,
Speaker 1: was If it's moved to the other venue, allegedly it
Speaker 1: will be free to enter. If it's at the Valley,
Speaker 1: I think you at the page just a small fee.
Speaker 1: But if it's at the different venue allegedly is going
Speaker 1: to be free. If you want to go watch the
Speaker 1: two team, you should. They are undefeated in one of
Speaker 1: the most highly contested divisions in all of USL League two,
Speaker 1: the Central the Central South South Central Division only gets
Speaker 1: one playoff spot, and right now Legion are on top
Speaker 1: of the table with thirteen points, completely undefeated or undefeated
Speaker 1: with only one draw. Then there's Dot That United who
Speaker 1: have twelve points through also through five matches, and then
Speaker 1: there's Actual City, who the twos the Hammers are taking
Speaker 1: on on Wednesday. They are completely undefeated, completely undefeated, four
Speaker 1: wins four matches with twenty one goals scored. Not bad,
Speaker 1: zero conceded. That's right, they have scored twenty one goals
Speaker 1: and conceded zero. They're a good team, So go check
Speaker 1: out that match. Whoever wins that match is in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat to make the playoffs. There's only one team
Speaker 1: that gets out. There's a wild card possibility. But unlikely
Speaker 1: because everybody's just beating up on each other. Because the
Speaker 1: South Central is that good. So check it out, enjoy it. Like,
Speaker 1: go watch the two best teams in the South Central.
Speaker 1: Go at it. Ashville City is where we got Seba
Speaker 1: trek Arthen, so you could be watching the former or
Speaker 1: a future Legion player for Ashville City and Legion too.
Speaker 1: The Hammers are absolutely future Legion players. That's like the
Speaker 1: whole point. So go watch the future, have a good time.
Speaker 1: Let's go see it. Now, before we get into the
Speaker 1: Mark Briggs postgame presser, which if you haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you need to because we're about to
Speaker 1: listen to it, I want to talk about what happened
Speaker 1: in the second half with the match getting stopped and
Speaker 1: briefly delayed due to derogatory chance. In the point they
Speaker 1: don't say section, there was a derogatory chant on goalkicks,
Speaker 1: the P word in the Spanish P word was being used,
Speaker 1: and in a lot of circles that is viewed as
Speaker 1: a derogatory, homophobic chant. Okay, and it did stop the game. Now,
Speaker 1: let me make a couple of things clear. The Magic
Speaker 1: Sea Brigade had zero percent to do with that zero
Speaker 1: opposite side satium the other poper point, they don't say
Speaker 1: from the people that I talked to. According to them,
Speaker 1: the people who were doing that chance were not regular.
Speaker 1: There are kind of new people that joined into the
Speaker 1: fray and started doing it. So don't just broadly say
Speaker 1: that they are bigots or hateful people. Don't just broad
Speaker 1: strokes say that they are bad. Okay, so apparently it
Speaker 1: was brand new people. It just just kind of want
Speaker 1: to say that as well. Whether you believe that that
Speaker 1: word is just a just a word, or if you
Speaker 1: believe that it's hateful, you know, that's not me for
Speaker 1: me to tell you. Talking to a lot of my
Speaker 1: friends who are native of Mexico and Puerto Rico and
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic, like I asked them individually and I was like,
Speaker 1: this word, like, does it mean what the connotation of
Speaker 1: what we hear it means? And they're like kind of yes,
Speaker 1: kind of no, it's it's not exactly used that way.
Speaker 1: How that word is commonly used to refer to someone
Speaker 1: who is homosexual. But they're like, but it's not really
Speaker 1: that meaning. But if you talk to someone who's in
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ plus community, they will tell you is a
Speaker 1: super hateful word, super harsh word. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: tell you what the word means, what it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: I'm not from Mexico. I know if you hear my
Speaker 1: voice or you see me kind of pacy white, or
Speaker 1: if actually are watching me, I'm probably about as red
Speaker 1: as the hoodie I'm wearing. Sunburns are fun. But I'm
Speaker 1: not here to tell you what that word means, because
Speaker 1: I don't know the complexities of the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of either community. I'm a straight white guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: here to tell you what it means. However, FIFA has
Speaker 1: said that derogatory chance will cause matches to be delayed.
Speaker 1: And guess what the match was delayed after legion We're
Speaker 1: knocking on the door. They were absolutely the better team
Speaker 1: they were at that point when the match was stopped.
Speaker 1: That was the best they had played all night. All night,
Speaker 1: they were absolutely on the front foot, and the match
Speaker 1: gets stopped. Whether you believe it is just a word,
Speaker 1: or if you think it's just a fun thing to do,
Speaker 1: or if you believe it's the most hateful thing that
Speaker 1: could be said. If you are in one of those
Speaker 1: three camps, it doesn't really matter because the game got stopped.
Speaker 1: The game got stopped. So if you're saying just get
Speaker 1: over yourself, don't be such a pansy get over it.
Speaker 1: You cause the match to get stopped. So your selfishness
Speaker 1: of using that word and saying get over yourself hurt
Speaker 1: the team. Are you there to support the team or
Speaker 1: for you to yell something when a goalkeeper kicks something?
Speaker 1: If you're there to yell a specific word when a
Speaker 1: person kicks the ball, and that's the only reason you go,
Speaker 1: are you a Legion fan? That's what I'm gonna say. Okay,
Speaker 1: whether you believe that the word has meaning or not,
Speaker 1: it hurt the team. It's plain and simple, clear cut.
Speaker 1: That's all there is for me. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: tell you the complexities of the background of that word.
Speaker 1: Talk to someone who is in either community LGBTQ plus
Speaker 1: or the Hispanic community. Talk to them individually. They'll give
Speaker 1: you a picture of their side. I'm not a part
Speaker 1: of either community, so I'm not the person for you,
Speaker 1: but i will tell you We've seen that word cause
Speaker 1: national teams to lose fans from watching their club, and
Speaker 1: it caused Legion to lose all of their momentum in
Speaker 1: a match they ended up losing. Hurt the team, hurt,
Speaker 1: the fans, hurt everybody. Don't do it cool? All right,
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and jump into this Mark Briggs
Speaker 1: postgame presser because this was a fun one. I'm going
Speaker 1: to try to tell you the context of these questions
Speaker 1: because you can't really hear them still, so I want
Speaker 1: to try to give you just a little bit of context,
Speaker 1: a little bit of background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I thought the first half, first fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: we let ourselves down. And when you play against a
Speaker 2: mature team, when you play against a good team.
Speaker 3: You can't do that.
Speaker 2: And we started the game off shopping, We don't run
Speaker 2: the player we're supposed to run.
Speaker 3: And then for the first fifteen.
Speaker 2: Minutes we were second best second gear people jogging, no intensity.
Speaker 2: They score, and then they're a good defensive side.
Speaker 3: They're sitting in a block and make it difficult.
Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the first fifteen minutes. I
Speaker 4: think just about every single week since you've been here.
Speaker 4: What is it about the first fifteen minutes the first
Speaker 4: half that doesn't seem to go into the first fifteen
Speaker 4: minutes of the.
Speaker 2: Second Yeah, I thought, second half. I thought they showed
Speaker 2: a better energy that we had. Just did a few
Speaker 2: things tactically and it helped us and we created chances.
Speaker 2: But then if you don't hit the target, you don't
Speaker 2: score goals. But the first half, yeah, the first fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes is where we lost the game. We didn't start
Speaker 2: well and we find ourselves losing a game one nil
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't be losing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think you could actually hear me ask
Speaker 1: the question on that one, so you may not need
Speaker 1: me to give like what I said. Basically, I just asked, like,
Speaker 1: why is this the continuous problem? Why is the first
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes just the thing? And honestly, I want to
Speaker 1: just kind of point out here that it is a
Speaker 1: continuous problem. And he is mentioned that it's slopping the
Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes. It's constantly an issue. We're there's a
Speaker 1: more interesting soundbites in there that I want you to
Speaker 1: hear as we go through, but just kind of keep
Speaker 1: that in the back of your mind. Of it was sloppy.
Speaker 1: They didn't run the places they were supposed to run.
Speaker 1: They were jogging. They weren't showing that intensity, they weren't
Speaker 1: showing energy and the first fifteen minutes lost the match.
Speaker 1: I want you to keep that little bit in your
Speaker 1: brain as you are listening to the rest of this.
Speaker 4: Obviously at Left Baggers Darts team and who you know
Speaker 4: leasing to join the club, you don't have a single
Speaker 4: left footed fullback at the club right now due to
Speaker 4: international and due to injury. How did what did you
Speaker 4: try to overcome that? Obviously it's very talent. It's hard
Speaker 4: to putting crosses when you're.
Speaker 3: Not left footed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you couldn't really understand, basically every single
Speaker 1: left footer at the club is currently gone injured or
Speaker 1: international duty. Romy's beinwell, Dawson, Moses Off and aj Patterson.
Speaker 1: All five, all five possible left foot players who can
Speaker 1: play left back are gone. And I asked about Sintino Centina.
Speaker 1: No Centino, there we go. I asked, like, he's a
Speaker 1: right footer, he wasn't able to put in crosses. How'd
Speaker 1: you ever come that? Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 2: You just have to like, look, we're we're missing Dawson,
Speaker 2: we're missing Ras, We're missing Fanny, we're missing aj.
Speaker 3: Am, I missing anywhere, Moses.
Speaker 2: You know, like we had to we had to piece
Speaker 2: together a back line for tonight, and quite honestly, I
Speaker 2: don't think the back line was the problem other than
Speaker 2: a couple of couple of sloppy plays towards the end
Speaker 2: of the game. Other than that, I don't think the
Speaker 2: back line was the problem. To be honest, I thought
Speaker 2: we they defended what they had to defend quite well.
Speaker 2: You know, the attacking players. We have to be better
Speaker 2: in that part of the field.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I mean, listen, if you're looking
Speaker 1: at what they were able to do, Indy, they only
Speaker 1: create about a half goal worth of chances, and obviously
Speaker 1: they end up scoring a goal, but they only created
Speaker 1: about half of that. They only created about a half
Speaker 1: goal chance. And according to x G it is the
Speaker 1: defense did their job. They did their job. So I
Speaker 1: think the next well, I don't even remember what the
Speaker 1: next question is, but still, I mean, I thought they
Speaker 1: played great. Jake looked wonderful at you know, so did
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Thiago. Thiago looked great. Steven Turnbull played
Speaker 1: really really well, and we'll get to him at the
Speaker 1: very end. It's going to be fascinating to hear. And
Speaker 1: then Cintino, I mean, the issue with Centinno was that
Speaker 1: everybody on the planet knew that he was not going
Speaker 1: to put in a cross. He would stop the ball
Speaker 1: about if you're looking at the eighteen yard box, about
Speaker 1: the middle of the eighteen yard box on the touch line,
Speaker 1: and stop, hold it up, try to dribble to his
Speaker 1: right foot. Nobody respected across from him. Everybody knew he
Speaker 1: was going to hold up the ball. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he can put in crosses with his left foot.
Speaker 1: I think he might have even put one in in
Speaker 1: the second half when he was playing right back, which
Speaker 1: was bizarre, But either way, that's not really important. The
Speaker 1: important part here is is that there was no threat
Speaker 1: of across from Centino in the first half because everybody
Speaker 1: knew he was trying to get it to his right foot.
Speaker 1: That he couldn't be anybody on a dribble from the
Speaker 1: left side because everybody knew he was just trying to
Speaker 1: get to his right foot. This isn't like the prosperous
Speaker 1: situation of only left foot in this because he could
Speaker 1: still cut inside and take in a shot because he
Speaker 1: had Dan Trejo in front of him and Trey Hoo's
Speaker 1: trying to cut in and get a shot. On his
Speaker 1: right foot. You were looking at more of a situation
Speaker 1: like that where unless Trey Hoo is trying to go
Speaker 1: to the touch line and cross the ball to Centino.
Speaker 1: It ended up being a massive problem having two right
Speaker 1: footers on the left side of the ball. Nobody was
Speaker 1: able to put in crosses. And I asked a question
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: Later I realize, yeah, you know, like who who really
Speaker 2: wanted to score?
Speaker 3: You think about Ronaldo. Ronaldo wanted to score.
Speaker 2: He hit when it comes off the post, he hits
Speaker 2: another one, he just goes the wrong side of the post.
Speaker 2: Ronaldo wanted to score. But who really wanted to put
Speaker 2: the ball in the back of the net. You know,
Speaker 2: we had chances on the edge of the box a
Speaker 2: number of players.
Speaker 3: We don't hit the target.
Speaker 2: You know, when you create those moments, when you create
Speaker 2: those opportunities, you've got to have that roofless edge and
Speaker 2: you've got to have that desire to put the ball
Speaker 2: in the back of the net.
Speaker 3: And we didn't have that tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that question was basically just like creating chances, kind
Speaker 1: of staying in the final third, but not really create
Speaker 1: Like they had shots, but not a whole lot of them.
Speaker 1: Field tilt, which we talked about before. Basically, possession is
Speaker 1: kind of meaningless. It kind of depends on where you
Speaker 1: have your possession. Legion had very solid field tilt and
Speaker 1: it didn't really account to much. And just that question
Speaker 1: of who wanted to score. Rinaldo wanted to score, but
Speaker 1: who else wanted to score? That is a brutal question
Speaker 1: to hear. I'm very matter of fact, very fascinating.
Speaker 5: Lasso and so maybe even pasture, you know, go get
Speaker 5: into that like zone fourteen, take their shot from there
Speaker 5: and they all go, well, ub a little bit wide,
Speaker 5: but you know, you take.
Speaker 4: Off the lasso despite he did have bad and want
Speaker 4: to try to store. How what kind of winds that
Speaker 4: decision making?
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you couldn't hear, uh, basically he took
Speaker 1: off Lasso, who had two shots who he kind of
Speaker 1: did the Anderson as said special of I'm lining one
Speaker 1: out from thirty and it's going to go about forty
Speaker 1: above the bar. He had two of those chances, and
Speaker 1: I asked why I take off Lasto when he was
Speaker 1: one of the few players in the first half that
Speaker 1: looked like they were willing to line one up and
Speaker 1: have a little bit of that bravery and take a shot.
Speaker 1: Listen to the answer.
Speaker 2: As a as a coach, you got to make decisions.
Speaker 2: And when when players don't perform at the level that
Speaker 2: they need to performat, there's going to be consequences. We're
Speaker 2: not here to we're not here to say pack people
Speaker 2: on the back and it's a camp and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Like this is a job. You get paid to do
Speaker 3: your job. You get paid if you're a midfield.
Speaker 2: Player, to connect passes, to get on the ball, to
Speaker 2: break up passes, to take shot and hit the target.
Speaker 3: You're an attacking.
Speaker 2: Player, you get paid to score goals, create opportunities, put
Speaker 2: the fans on the edge of the seats.
Speaker 3: You know, did you just fit? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Did you feel that? There you go.
Speaker 2: I just asked them to look in the mirror themselves
Speaker 2: and come back and tell me because some of us,
Speaker 2: some of us go home, don't watch the games and
Speaker 2: don't honestly look at themselves because of that. Look in
Speaker 2: the mirror and tell me that you're duing your job
Speaker 2: to the level that it needs to be done at.
Speaker 2: And if you can say that, good, But if you.
Speaker 3: Can't, so.
Speaker 1: Let's break this one down Timothy Bellen posted this this
Speaker 1: specific clip or this specific quote just a little bit,
Speaker 1: and he mentioned like the standards and there are consequences
Speaker 1: for not doing your job. By the way, again, if
Speaker 1: you're not falling to following Timothy Bellen on either Blue
Speaker 1: Skys whatever, you need to be doing that. Oh there's
Speaker 1: a lot here. With Lasso, I mentioned the fact that
Speaker 1: he was one of to be people to you know,
Speaker 1: take chances. What was the first thing that he said,
Speaker 1: If you're not connecting passes or breaking up passes, you're
Speaker 1: not doing your job. Lasso had a beast of a
Speaker 1: night in terms of connecting passes. He was over hitting things.
Speaker 1: He was not quite on it with his teammates, Grant,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of learning curve playing with Steven Turnbull,
Speaker 1: who he did not connect with a lot. But they
Speaker 1: were also for a professional standard, I couldn't go out
Speaker 1: there and hit the shots. So if last TIF you
Speaker 1: hear this and you say, well can you do that?
Speaker 1: Talking boy, no, I can't. I can't do anything you do.
Speaker 1: You would eat me alive. But for a professional standard,
Speaker 1: he was not hit he was not making the easy passes,
Speaker 1: and it was killing chances in the first half in
Speaker 1: terms of breaking up passes. I mean he was sitting deep.
Speaker 1: He was playing as kind of the standalone quarterback type
Speaker 1: role where he's supposed to just kind of distribute out,
Speaker 1: distribute out, distribute out, break up anything going behind you.
Speaker 1: He wasn't doing that. That was hard. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say harsh, but it was straight to
Speaker 1: the point. It was very pointed. I think the fascinating
Speaker 1: part here was not what Timothy posted, which was the consequences.
Speaker 1: The fascinating part was there are people here who do
Speaker 1: not go home and watch the film. They don't he said,
Speaker 1: they don't look in the mirror. And I find that fascinating,
Speaker 1: just the fact that he sits there and says there
Speaker 1: are people what he's and I want to read between
Speaker 1: some lines here, there are people here who don't think
Speaker 1: that they're the problem, and they're not putting in the
Speaker 1: work because they don't think they're the problem. They're not
Speaker 1: looking back and seeing their mistakes. They're not seeing the
Speaker 1: places they can improve. And I'm not going to sit
Speaker 1: here and try tell you, well, I think it's this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy. But what an incredible
Speaker 1: statement by Briggs. What a way to use the media
Speaker 1: to talk to your players. Go home and watch the film.
Speaker 1: I can tell who isn't If I were to ask you,
Speaker 1: what did you see here? You didn't watch it to
Speaker 1: begin with. I mean talk about a guy who's to
Speaker 1: go after players and hold them accountable. There's accountability in practice,
Speaker 1: but public accountability it matters. It does. And he's mentioned
Speaker 1: in previous interviews that there's a careful line to toe
Speaker 1: when you are a coach like him that is willing
Speaker 1: to call someone out, but you know, lit someone up.
Speaker 1: But he said, this isn't a camp. There is no
Speaker 1: pat on the back. I that is a I think
Speaker 1: that last half was so fascinating as a coach.
Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier about not having a left footed player
Speaker 4: on the left side. Was there any consideration to putting
Speaker 4: passer over on that left hand side, such a humans
Speaker 4: right over to get some more crosses into.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, at one point there was Actually.
Speaker 2: We were going to do that, and then the ball
Speaker 2: kept coming out to the right hand side, so we
Speaker 2: switched Senteno and Steven, so Steven went to the left,
Speaker 2: senten O came.
Speaker 3: To the right and got a couple of guy a
Speaker 3: little bit of joy.
Speaker 2: Actually in that last area, and then we couldn't get
Speaker 2: you know, that final that final push, that final little bit.
Speaker 3: Of look in the box.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's something that we looked at and
Speaker 2: we we didn't we didn't quite pull the trigger, but
Speaker 2: we we looked at it.
Speaker 1: It was spoken, so I mentioned maybe moving passer over
Speaker 1: to the left hand side to get crosses in, to
Speaker 1: at least make that a little bit dangerous because there
Speaker 1: were no threats as I mentioned earlier, with Fanwell being
Speaker 1: out and he got two starts, by the way, for
Speaker 1: the Rwanda national team. Uh didn't have a single start
Speaker 1: or a single appearance for a national team. At the
Speaker 1: right page of thirty two, he gets his. He gets
Speaker 1: not just two cats, but two starts for the national team.
Speaker 1: Super cool to seeper Fanwell. Congratulations Fanwell. But you know
Speaker 1: we mentioned not having the left footer footers. Romy's is
Speaker 1: probably gonna be out for just a more more. Not
Speaker 1: sure about a concrete timeline for AJ. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to play a full ninety any time soon.
Speaker 1: We Moses is apparently a few weeks away. Not really
Speaker 1: too positive about Dawson, So you're looking at a very
Speaker 1: bare bones left handed side lineup. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1: to see if we get a little bit more of
Speaker 1: the classic Tommy. Soon we're switching wingers all the time.
Speaker 1: Thing this upcoming match again Slu City, where we see
Speaker 1: Pasture go over to that left hand side trail, go
Speaker 1: to that right hand side and make those switches so
Speaker 1: they can switch. The idea of these inverted wingers who
Speaker 1: are cutting inside, and then some that stay true and
Speaker 1: have wing backs that cut inside. Because Turnbul and Sentento
Speaker 1: are very accomplished, they can cut inside. They can do
Speaker 1: that very well. Maybe have some that stay on that
Speaker 1: outside flanks and they can cross in. Have at least
Speaker 1: pastor be a threat to cross some stuff in. I
Speaker 1: think that's something to watch. We'll be interested to see
Speaker 1: if they continue doing so.
Speaker 2: I just remember it ricocheting to the edge of the box.
Speaker 2: I can't remember how we got there. I'll have to
Speaker 2: watch the film and take.
Speaker 3: A look at it.
Speaker 2: But it ricochets to the edge of the box, and
Speaker 2: then we you know, he's hitty and it's gone right
Speaker 2: in the bottom corner. I just I thought we could
Speaker 2: have put better pressure on the shot. I thought we
Speaker 2: could have reacted a little bit better to block the shot.
Speaker 2: Last week, I see four or five six players throwing
Speaker 2: their bodies on the line in front of shots. This week,
Speaker 2: I didn't see one person putting their body on the
Speaker 2: line to block the shot.
Speaker 1: Okay, so two parts of this not just on Twitter,
Speaker 1: so this is not me calling some of my own
Speaker 1: Twitter at all this And I also because I also
Speaker 1: heard it in real life a lot. I heard it
Speaker 1: from a lot of fans kind of talking to them
Speaker 1: at halftime and a little bit postgame about they thought
Speaker 1: that m VO Matt Vanocle looked a little bit slow.
Speaker 1: And the video doesn't massively disservice because he does just
Speaker 1: kind of fall slowly. But he mentions no one in
Speaker 1: the midfield put brusher on the ball. I think that's
Speaker 1: a Lasso comment, just to be honest, because we mentioned
Speaker 1: how he's been. He's the one that's sitting deep piece
Speaker 1: at CDM. I think that's kind of a lasto comment.
Speaker 1: He also mentions that none of the defenders really stopped
Speaker 1: to block the ball. If you follow me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you'll see that opposed like there were several players, the
Speaker 1: ball just kind of went by and it went through
Speaker 1: like a screen of people that Matvin Okle kind of
Speaker 1: had to say center because if it deflects off of
Speaker 1: a Legion player and he's already he's already dove to
Speaker 1: his right, he can't save a ball that deflects to
Speaker 1: his left. He has to kind of react to and
Speaker 1: expect a deflection, because everything should tell you with the
Speaker 1: crowd of people that's going through that it's going to
Speaker 1: hit something. It hit nothing, and it went pretty much
Speaker 1: as far right corner as it can. I do think
Speaker 1: there's a conversation of starting del Gatto or giving him
Speaker 1: more starts, but I think using that play as the
Speaker 1: reason to start del Gatto is not the right one
Speaker 1: because I don't think del Gato saves that ball either
Speaker 1: or not because it's in banger. But look at all
Speaker 1: the bodies and went through without touching them. Matt van
Speaker 1: Okele was playing a the like this shot, as he
Speaker 1: should have, because you think that with the amount of
Speaker 1: people went through, an indie player on the floor, a
Speaker 1: player in the middle of a Legiant player in the
Speaker 1: middle of the box, another Legion player who's kind of
Speaker 1: on the back side, somebody's going to get touched to
Speaker 1: that ball. No one got touched the ball ended up
Speaker 1: right corner. It looks bad on Mvo just kind of
Speaker 1: the way he falls, but that appearances doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: it was bad, if that makes sense. He doesn't blame
Speaker 1: Matt Banokele. He doesn't see that he needs to be
Speaker 1: more on his toes. He mentions closing down the shot
Speaker 1: and someone needs to block the ball. He also mentions
Speaker 1: five six players putting their body on the line for
Speaker 1: the ball, which leads to my next question.
Speaker 4: Was there a little bit of that because it was
Speaker 4: a cup match, because it was Jacob Meister and this
Speaker 4: is just the regular season you have, you know, sixty
Speaker 4: more matches to play.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that it doesn't matter. That's the that's
Speaker 3: the problem. That's the problem right there, right there.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter whether you're playing in the Yogermeister Cup,
Speaker 2: whether you're playing in the USL, whether you're playing in
Speaker 2: the Open Cup, whether you're playing a preseason friendly. Every
Speaker 2: time you put this jersey on the standards, and if
Speaker 2: those standards aren't met, then we have to make.
Speaker 1: Changes after I want to replay that for you in.
Speaker 3: The Open Cup.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter whether you're playing in the Yogermeister Cup,
Speaker 2: whether you're playing in the USL, whether you're playing in
Speaker 2: the Open Cup, whether you're playing a preseason and friendly.
Speaker 2: Every time you put this jersey on the standards, and
Speaker 2: if those standards aren't met, then we have to make changes.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't make a Leegiant fan want to run
Speaker 1: through a brick wall, I genuinely don't know what will.
Speaker 1: I genuinely have no idea what would not make Allegiant
Speaker 1: fan want to run through a brickwall? After that, I
Speaker 1: think that he's being super clear here. I asked the question,
Speaker 1: did five six players put their body on the line
Speaker 1: because it was a cup match? That was the problem.
Speaker 1: That's the problem right there. Quote Mark Briggs. I that
Speaker 1: could not be a clearer message to me. It could
Speaker 1: not be a clearer message to me. I thought that
Speaker 1: was an awesome moment for fans listening, but it needs
Speaker 1: to be a real moment for the players and whatever's
Speaker 1: causing those slow starts, the intensity that not willing to
Speaker 1: quote unquote die for the shirt. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not a coach, I'm not a professional athlete and I
Speaker 1: never will be. I'm just I'm just a guy who
Speaker 1: bought like a freaking eighty dollars microphone and pay for
Speaker 1: a stream yard subscription. I'm not special here, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think what Briggs is saying very straightforward right now
Speaker 1: is just like the intensity was there for FC Tulsa.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew was a cup match, everybody knew that if
Speaker 1: you lose, you die, and people were willing to fight
Speaker 1: for that. Why didn't it happen here? Pretty cut, pretty
Speaker 1: clear cut for Briggs here, And I thought that was
Speaker 1: a fascinating answer that I think Legion Vance needed to hear.
Speaker 4: After one of the best spells that you had tagging tonight,
Speaker 4: the match is the way because of some offensive chance
Speaker 4: go inline.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to comment on their.
Speaker 4: Specifically, but what did you have to do to talk
Speaker 4: to your team to keep them engaged after seeing their
Speaker 4: best chances get immally that.
Speaker 2: Momentum down there, it came at a at a really
Speaker 2: bad time for us, Like you say, it stopped our momentum,
Speaker 2: and we had to keep them engaged and keep them
Speaker 2: focused and keep them, you know, keep them going. Essentially, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I you know, I didn't. Honestly, I was You're that
Speaker 2: engrossed in the game that I didn't necessarily hear what
Speaker 2: was what the chance was or whatever was said, but
Speaker 2: obviously the referees heard it. The officials heard it. So
Speaker 2: I think, you know, like we have, we have great support,
Speaker 2: but can we can we support in a positive way
Speaker 2: with a positive energy and keep the flow of the
Speaker 2: game going.
Speaker 4: Just finally, with.
Speaker 2: A lot of work, we've got to We've got to
Speaker 2: come in tomorrow and come in Friday and you know,
Speaker 2: get get our work in and look at video and
Speaker 2: analyze and then we we gotta we got to try
Speaker 2: and put our put our strongest foot forward as well
Speaker 2: as we had to. Louis all the best in the
Speaker 2: second right now, aren't they them? And Charleston and Loud
Speaker 2: and the top three teams in the league, And it's
Speaker 2: going to be a difficult place. They don't lose, they
Speaker 2: don't lose many games away, but it's a massive challenge
Speaker 2: for us, and I want to see which players can
Speaker 2: rise to that challenge. I want to see which players
Speaker 2: are excited by going there and trying to put on
Speaker 2: a performance and trying to compete against one of the
Speaker 2: best teams in the league.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, gets his first nine season, his first
Speaker 4: start since I pass performance.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought you did great. I was at
Speaker 2: he really pleased with Steven. Steven's been through health. He's
Speaker 2: had an illness that's really serious, and he lost an
Speaker 2: awful lot of weight, and he's been battling through a lot.
Speaker 2: So for him to for him to you know, get
Speaker 2: himself back medically and healthy and put the weight back
Speaker 2: on and get back to his playing weight, it's took
Speaker 2: an awful lot of work. And I was really pleased
Speaker 2: to see him perform at the level he did and
Speaker 2: go for ninety minutes. What he's been through has been
Speaker 2: really difficult. So I'm really really proud of him and
Speaker 2: pleased for him. I just wish that we could have
Speaker 2: gotten the three points.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, there's been a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about Turnbull, and you know, in the last episode, I
Speaker 1: thought that maybe he was going on the chopping lot
Speaker 1: because you know, all official sources are just saying he
Speaker 1: wasn't playing, and you're wondering what was going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes the tactical. Was there an attitude issue. Nobody
Speaker 1: besides the team knew that he was sick, that he
Speaker 1: was ill, And this is where I wanted to just
Speaker 1: throw my hands up. I want to raise my hand
Speaker 1: right now and just say that's on me, right Maybe
Speaker 1: I should have reached out. Granted, if I knew there
Speaker 1: was an illness, I would not disclose that because that's
Speaker 1: a very personal matter to Turnbull, but maybe just kind
Speaker 1: of shift the narrative a little bit of there's a
Speaker 1: reason why he's out. Can't dive into it, but I
Speaker 1: want to raise my hand and say that's my fault.
Speaker 1: But for him to speak glowingly about Turnbull and about
Speaker 1: how well he did and the road of recovery from
Speaker 1: an illness where he loses significant weight and how he
Speaker 1: had to get back, I mean, it's it definitely puts
Speaker 1: things into perspective for him. And what was really interesting
Speaker 1: is as he was walking off the pitch, I was
Speaker 1: in the tunnel waiting to go to the press conference,
Speaker 1: and he was disappointed, Like he was really disappointed. You
Speaker 1: would expect like a little smile out of a guy
Speaker 1: who has been through as much as Briggs as said
Speaker 1: he has to get his first ninety minutes in since
Speaker 1: he was with another club, none of that, But it
Speaker 1: was just pure disappointment of not winning. That's a competitor man,
Speaker 1: That is absolute competitor. That's an absolute kind of a dog, honestly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wonderful to hear that about Steven. Love to see him
Speaker 1: grow and I can't wait to see him play more
Speaker 1: matches for US.
Speaker 3: And the last one he mentioned.
Speaker 2: You were with Sacrament.
Speaker 1: You had a lot of dogs of results.
Speaker 5: Going into anything throwing results as well.
Speaker 4: What does it take to go into one of the
Speaker 4: better atmosphere in the US and get again.
Speaker 2: A lot You know, you've got to be tactically smart.
Speaker 2: You've got to have players that want to play. You've
Speaker 2: got to have players that have courage to play sitting
Speaker 2: an intimidating environment. The fans there create a good environment.
Speaker 2: And Danny is a good friend of mine and a
Speaker 2: fantastic coach, and he gets his guys organized, he gets
Speaker 2: them motivated, and they're really difficult to beat at that
Speaker 2: Linn Family Stadium. But we've got to go there with
Speaker 2: a plan. We've got to go there with a clarity
Speaker 2: for our guys, and then we've got to go there
Speaker 2: with the right mindset, because if you don't have the
Speaker 2: right mindset, you get eaten up and spat out pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: So with all that, it was a intense press conference
Speaker 1: to say the absolute least I mean Briggs and not
Speaker 1: hold back about any of it. And again I've said
Speaker 1: this before, but when it comes to Briggs, I think
Speaker 1: that fans are going to love him because he uses
Speaker 1: the media to kind of call out issues which we
Speaker 1: did not have prior to him with Coach sone or
Speaker 1: even Coach Eric for that little bit, and some of
Speaker 1: it might be lip service to fans of hey, man,
Speaker 1: we care, we really care. But still, man, you show
Speaker 1: that intensity and he talks about playing for the shirt
Speaker 1: every time you put on the jersey and he's only
Speaker 1: been here month or two month or two He shouldn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to care as much as he does,
Speaker 1: but he does. And I think that if you're worried
Speaker 1: about this year's Legion team, maybe that's valid. But as
Speaker 1: long as Mark Briggs is the coach, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're worried about the future of his Legion team. I
Speaker 1: really don't. And there was some conversation that we saw
Speaker 1: in the general section of the Magesty Brigade discord, which, again,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk a lot of Legion ball,
Speaker 1: I'm in there from time to time, so check that out.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Magicy Brigade member to
Speaker 1: be in there. You can just join the discord. You
Speaker 1: don't have access to certain things, but you can just
Speaker 1: talk ball. It's a lot of fun. Or you know,
Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter of like who was that
Speaker 1: directed at?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Is a guy like Lasso is his day's numbered as
Speaker 1: a Legion player? Enzo was subbed off, which doesn't happen
Speaker 1: for Enzo. Is Enzo's time done with the Legion? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I do think that Briggs
Speaker 1: showed that no one's safe. Not a single player was safe.
Speaker 1: Guys like Enzo would never been subbed off before, only
Speaker 1: when he was exhausted or about to get a second yellow.
Speaker 1: That's the only time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Guys like Lasso, who they paid a fee for to
Speaker 1: come to Birmingham not safe. He got yanked off at
Speaker 1: forty five. I think that you're going to see a
Speaker 1: ruthlessness out of Briggs, especially this next month. I think
Speaker 1: you're going to see an absolute ruthlessness out of him,
Speaker 1: especially when we go to Louisville. When Legion go to Louisville,
Speaker 1: you are going to see just absolute I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to just say. I think it's just like, yeah, ruthless,
Speaker 1: And that's the only word I got here, is just
Speaker 1: ruthless of you weren't good enough. Get off the field.
Speaker 1: Somebody else wants to play, Somebody else wants to fight.
Speaker 1: Somebody else has courage, he mentioned courage. Somebody else is
Speaker 1: more up for this than you are today. They may
Speaker 1: not be as good as you. You may have over
Speaker 1: four hundred more appearances as a professional footballer. You may
Speaker 1: be one of the most technically gifted players that ever
Speaker 1: graced the us SELL, which we do have a couple
Speaker 1: of those players. If we're being real, but you're not trying.
Speaker 1: Players who don't try, I don't win. He's showing that.
Speaker 1: He's showing that intensity and Legion fans get behind that.
Speaker 1: Be intense, show you care, bring the noise. If you're
Speaker 1: going up to Louisville for the match, be loud, be proud,
Speaker 1: show one of the better away days, the better the
Speaker 1: way sections that Lynn family gets to see all year.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a blast. Thank you all so
Speaker 1: much for listening. If you're going to the WFC match
Speaker 1: or not the WFC, sorry, the Legion two match. Oh
Speaker 1: actually I won't be able to be at either. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: If you see me, say hi, always good to chat ball.
Speaker 1: I'm always down to a talk ball. So yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening to have some guys
Speaker 1: keep emer on