WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:05.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.759 Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova 3 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:14.560 Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kt z 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.440 R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Stave yet. 5 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:20.359 Thy Good afternoon, everybody. 6 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:22.519 Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports 7 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.760 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, dere Jiggins, Alas, got our 8 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:32.880 guy Ryan with us. Hey, you also knows, Kevin, I 9 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.320 don't know. Thursday. Today's Thursday, right, it is Thursday. One 10 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:37.240 more day with you, Jay? 11 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:41.799 Yeah? Well, kay, well too, Conny Today, Today, tomorrow. Hey, 12 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.359 when you edit me, well, I have to edit you 13 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:50.119 four times a year, dude, you I'm okay with that. Yeah. Well, 14 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.880 it's the checks cash, the kid, the checks cash. Yeah. Yeah. 15 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.799 Welcome to Thursday Show. We're gonna see what we talk 16 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:58.880 about today. We have a couple of good people coming on. 17 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.759 U College has chimed in there. They have their volleyball. 18 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:08.319 Coach, right, Dan Bethel Bethel, Okay, I think it's Bethel, right, Okay. 19 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.920 He's gonna be at the early hour, the three seventeen hour, 20 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:12.840 and then at the four to seventeen hour. 21 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:17.079 We're gonna have our buddy TJ. Jesskowitz. Did you already 22 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:20.079 I haven't signed up any What have you publicly said 23 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:20.879 to him that you're gonna do? 24 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:21.120 Yeah? 25 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:22.319 I told h last time he was the last time 26 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.000 he was on it months ago. Well, last time he 27 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:25.040 was on, I committed to it. 28 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.920 Okay, So we have a big event here on Saturday, 29 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.400 Loop to loop cyclist know what it is. It's just 30 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.599 a big party on the loop at the racetrack. So 31 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.200 he'll come on and talk about that as the temperature 32 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.519 starts to dip into the nineties. 33 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.040 Yeah, I've been waiting for that so I could get 34 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:43.280 on my horse. Yeah, okay, that's what it is. 35 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:46.840 Yes, that's exactly what it is actually, And actually one 36 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:48.519 of the things it is, Steve, is that the show 37 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:49.719 gets in the way of everything. 38 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.599 So yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's funny because it takes the afternoon, 39 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.280 but you have to kind of get ready for it 40 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:56.560 all day, you know, all day. 41 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.079 But you know, I always doing and then you know, 42 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.040 and then there's stuff after the show and stuff like that. 43 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.400 So yeah, you know, once I, once I kick you 44 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.799 to the curb, I'll be able to start getting ready 45 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:05.280 for a tour. 46 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:10.639 Yeah, that's what I'm telling myself. I know, legit, that's 47 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.400 gonna be My daughter says, she's gonna do it with me. 48 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:17.199 Oh yeah, yeah, she's what she No, she's twenty no no, no, no, 49 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:18.879 no miles. 50 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:21.120 Yes, yeah, we need the thirty two miles run. 51 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:26.719 So but she she's a she's a she's a cycling instructor. Uh, 52 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.199 you know, at one of those fitness places. So she's 53 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.479 in shape. I'm not talk to your cardiologists. 54 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:32.120 Yeah, yep. 55 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.120 So we'll see I got it. Okay, cool, you got it. 56 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:35.719 We got it. 57 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.000 We'll start the show now. Anything else. 58 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.159 I know that they had a they had a basketball 59 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.680 interview today. Uh, men's basketball basketball season already. 60 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:45.879 It's getting there, Steve. 61 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.599 You know, I'm talking to somebody in the athletic department, 62 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.960 and probably by the end of next week the full 63 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:56.759 basketball schedule will be out with game times and whatnot. 64 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.120 So you know, hopefully, well you know't get all that 65 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.240 all that done so we can get our schedule set. 66 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.800 You know, I got to know when these games are. 67 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.199 I'm a busy guy now, Steve. I'm a busy guy 68 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:11.319 work because work, work is starting to get in the 69 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:12.039 way of things. 70 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.520 So work is afoord out a word that you can 71 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:15.560 actually say in public. 72 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.080 I stopped still having trouble saying those words in the 73 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:18.919 morning to my wife. 74 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:20.680 We got to go to work, Go to work. 75 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:25.080 I got a job. Yeah, thanks, thanks dear. And she says, yeah, 76 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.840 get you as to work. You've had it made. 77 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.280 Yeah, you've had it too easy for too long, and 78 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:31.479 you're lucky I'm still here. 79 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.120 She kind of yeah, sort of says that I know 80 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:36.439 she does. 81 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.599 Probably she does, but h yeah, so uh but yeah, 82 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:42.719 you know, we're we're getting towards that. Well again, it 83 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.719 gets you know, basketball season starts earlier and earlier every year. 84 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:46.000 You know. 85 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:47.680 The reason I say is because they had an interview 86 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:49.599 with one of the transfer of the transfer from Tennessee 87 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.919 who probably helped near the basket with previous and uh, 88 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.319 you know power forward right, uh. 89 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.719 And I just lost his name as usual, but that 90 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:58.319 should be good. 91 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.479 We start here pursuing red, blue and less and two 92 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.599 what October fourth, ninth? 93 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:07.159 I want to say four I want to say. I 94 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:12.840 want to say October nine, the first one, the home one, Oh, 95 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.039 you're right, October four, and then a week later, and 96 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:19.040 then a week later October eleven, in Glendale. So we're 97 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.199 just talking a couple, you know, two weeks from tomorrow, right, 98 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.040 so yeah, you know, so that and that kind of 99 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:26.720 starts at. 100 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:28.120 Two weeks from tomorrow. So that's going to be the 101 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.319 weekend of the Texas Tech game, right the night before 102 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:31.240 the Texas Tech game. 103 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:37.240 So and then the I was I was thinking of 104 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:40.000 something because I was listening to his press conference coming 105 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:42.199 in and one of the questions at the end was, 106 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.639 you know, what are your expectations blah blah blah. What's 107 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.480 the one you're gonna say. You're going to say, you know, 108 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.160 final four, possible test so championship. 109 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:50.399 Blah blah blah. 110 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.560 So what in the last No, I won't even give 111 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:59.040 you tim When was the last time Arizona basketball overachieved overachieved? 112 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.600 Because we know when the other achieved. When's the lost 113 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.759 and they overachieved. I came up with one, and we'll 114 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:11.759 see I uh, twenty eleven, duke, Yeah, that's what I 115 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.879 picked it. Twenty eleven, Yeah, thirteen years ago. 116 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:23.680 Waysa uh, because expectations are always high, right, expectations are 117 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.120 elem Put it this way, if you don't get to 118 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.680 the final four at Arizona's under it, it's just disappointed. Well, 119 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.600 there's gonna be maybe I don't know if you call 120 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.399 it underachieved, but it's kind of like that's sort of 121 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:35.720 the goal. 122 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:35.959 Of the goal. 123 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.800 Yeah, that's the sometimes unrealistic goal for some of the 124 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.560 teams that Sean had. That Sean had at the end 125 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.040 of the end of his career, they didn't have Final four. 126 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:46.839 There were a number of those teams they didn't have 127 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:49.279 final They were not Final four when you got to 128 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.199 the end a couple of years. That was never a 129 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.519 Final four team, correct, right now, those two teams that 130 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:56.600 got to the lead eight, Yeah, both of those were 131 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.600 Final four twenty four teams and they just ran into 132 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.319 the wrong team in the eight. 133 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.040 Impossible maybe a national championship, right, but no, you're right. 134 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.120 So I was when I was thinking, it's been since 135 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.360 twenty eleven the Duke. 136 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:08.439 Did you get to the lead eight? 137 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.000 Yeah, I mean we sat I remember sitting down to 138 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.480 watch that Duke game and I'm like, Okay, we're gonna 139 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:17.600 watch this, but this is gonna suck because you know, 140 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.560 if you're an Arizona fan, you don't like Duke. I'm 141 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:21.879 not gonna use the word hate, but you don't like 142 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.480 Duke their arrival. You're kind of wanting to be what 143 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.639 they are or what they've been with the national championships 144 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.040 and whatnot. But it was kind of like, well, you 145 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.920 got to watch it. It's a sweet sixteen game. You're 146 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.279 not not going to watch it. And then all of 147 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.639 a sudden, and then they were getting beat early. Remember 148 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.040 that they were down like ten twelve points early and 149 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:41.959 then came back towards the end of the second half, 150 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:43.399 and then blew him out in the end of the 151 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.000 first half, then blew him out in the second half. 152 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.639 It's like, what just happened. That's when Williams made his 153 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:49.800 name for himself. 154 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:52.000 Right, That's when he made He made so much money 155 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.360 in that one game, a ton of money in that 156 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:56.000 one game. 157 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.839 You talked about Duke being arrival. Just Duke feel that way? Yeah? 158 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:01.480 Do you think so? 159 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.160 I do I think Arizona considers Duke arrival. I think 160 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:06.600 Arizona fans considered Duke arrival. 161 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.560 Yeah, no, But I don't think it's the other way around, 162 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:09.360 That's what I'm asking. 163 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.399 Yeah, the other I think at one point they might 164 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.000 have during the Loot years, but certainly not afterlut left, 165 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.920 you know, because those great, great games they had in 166 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.079 the nineties. You know, I think it was a nice 167 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.839 East West rivalry. They played each other a bunch of times, 168 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:28.240 and I agree that it also had coach k versus right, yeah, exactly, 169 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.920 you know, two of the great coaches in college basketball. 170 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:36.079 I don't think Duke any longer considers Arizona arrival because 171 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.639 they haven't been arrival now. Did it sting to them 172 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:44.519 when Arizona beat them last year at Duke? Sure, because 173 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.480 they're thinking, wait a minute, we forgot about these guys 174 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.639 a long time ago. They show up at our place 175 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.519 and they kick our asses. We're at home right right, 176 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.199 So maybe maybe it's might come back a little bit. 177 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.560 You know, Let's say Arizona beats Duke again this year. 178 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:01.839 Now it becomes a rivalrygain, and they're pissed outcause the right, right, 179 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.120 let's do it again. Let's do it again, right, because 180 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.240 that's time. And last time they played each other was 181 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.439 in the tournament. I think, well two thousand and one 182 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.959 they played each other, but that twenty eleven is the 183 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.839 last time. I agree with you, that was the only 184 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.480 game I could come up with the last time they overachieved. Yeah, 185 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.480 because there is there is a lot of or there 186 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.639 are a lot of expectations on this team. Did you 187 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.439 think because I know you considered the two thousand and 188 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.360 one team the best team, but I didn't see that coming. 189 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:30.959 I don't feel like they were a national championship team 190 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:31.879 during that year, did you. 191 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:35.840 Well remember the circumstances they started the year number one 192 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:36.279 or two? 193 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.240 Duke, Well, what were the circumstances? 194 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.960 Bobby also, Bobby died and she had been ill most 195 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:44.600 of that time. 196 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.519 And then Luke took time off in the little bit right, 197 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:47.159 they lost. 198 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:49.360 They lost it in the festival classroom for the work 199 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:50.440 for the only time that they ever. 200 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.679 Knew Rosboro was the coach at the time. Rosboro took 201 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.159 over for the next three weeks. Luke took his time 202 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:57.360 off two weeks and he surprised and he showed up 203 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.679 and coach them and they didn't really but one game 204 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.360 after that, two games in one game in the regular 205 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.240 season another one at the end, UH, your question was 206 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:07.840 did you see it? 207 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:08.600 Did I? 208 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.039 I don't know that I saw that as a national 209 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.559 championship team, and maybe it was because of what they. 210 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:13.000 Were going through. 211 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.559 Well, there's some point you probably thought that for me, 212 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:16.480 having covered it. 213 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:17.759 I thought every every. 214 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:23.440 Chance Gilbert Jason, Luke, Richard, Laura and all these guys, 215 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.279 you think, yeah, they're gonna be pretty good. And then 216 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:28.320 they then they had didn't have lout. They struggled and 217 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.600 and let me tell you, I think I consider this 218 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.519 because it's been in a book or two maybe guys 219 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.440 off the record and on the record. They were having 220 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:40.720 troubles internally because five good dudes and was at job 221 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:42.960 one ball right, and where do you go with it? 222 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:45.720 So there were some things and then all of a sudden, 223 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:49.799 Luke came back, got it fixed, and they win and 224 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:51.960 then went on this role because you're playing for not 225 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.639 just Luke, you're playing for Bobby, you're playing for the legacy, 226 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:57.440 you're playing for all these things. And and I know this, 227 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:00.279 the people who are listening are big fans. They had 228 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.440 every reason to win that game the championship because he did. 229 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.440 And I don't say this something they kind of got 230 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:11.519 homered a bit, a bit, Yeah, don't cut a bit. 231 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.080 Yeah I'm gonna do the Kamala Harris thing and like 232 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:15.960 bite my tongue right. 233 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.320 A bit they got they could never say that, but yeah, 234 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:20.240 time is so bad. 235 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.879 Even if they wouldn't have won after being the homeward, 236 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.879 but there was a clear homer. Yeah, you know, it 237 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.799 could have been a few points here and there, talk about. 238 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:32.360 Yeah, but you know, I guess, I guess. And this 239 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:36.720 goes back to being an Arizona fan. Right, Every Final four, 240 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.759 including the eighty eight Final four, was a surprise to. 241 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.679 Me, even that team that was a jergernaut eighty eight. 242 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.240 I know, Steve, but it was hard to believe that 243 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:49.279 Arizona had gotten to that point. Well, you didn't know 244 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.720 where they could be, where they were a final fourty 245 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.080 they had lost two games. Okay, look, my skepticism came 246 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.360 from the fact that the Pac twelve or the Pac 247 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.279 ten really sucked, that they were really bad. 248 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.639 But they lost their Stanford, right, the first they lost. 249 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.120 The only lost they only lost. The one conference game 250 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.440 they lost was to Stanford at Stanford and then New 251 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.200 Mexico and then they lost to New Mexico and that 252 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.840 was it. But you know, it was kind of like 253 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.799 you you thought they should have gone undefeated in the league. 254 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:21.120 Yeah, but it targets the gods. Yeah yeah, but but 255 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.840 but but my point being that. 256 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.240 Each game that they won in the in the in 257 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.600 you know, I thought they were not the first two. 258 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.039 I thought the first two they were going to be 259 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.279 in the tournament. Okay, sorry, I thought they were gonna be. 260 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.960 But then they played Iowa again I thought. My thinking was, 261 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.919 you know, I was pissed about the December loss, and 262 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:42.519 then they beat the hell out of Iowa, and I thought, well, 263 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.080 there's no way they beat North Carolina. And then they 264 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.399 did that. So that was a surprise to me. The 265 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.200 ninety four they were coming off that awful loss to 266 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.120 ninety two Santa Clair. The so ninety three, the ninety 267 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.000 four final four team was a surprise. Obviously ninety seven 268 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.440 was a surprise. That was a shot shot. 269 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.320 And then again they underachieved in ninety. 270 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.919 Eight, right, so they right, So then two thousand and one, 271 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.879 it's kind of like, Wow, you sit here as a fan, 272 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.600 you think they can or should get to the final four. 273 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.080 I've always thought I didn't really see this coming on. 274 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:16.720 They get there. 275 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.320 I understand what you're saying, because I was close to 276 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:20.679 the team optually come and cover them. 277 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.559 You saw that that was a possibility. 278 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:27.679 After the death and and what happened subsequently, you kind 279 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.960 of think, we'll see. But when he came back you 280 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.279 could see that they were gonna bond right, and just happened. 281 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:37.960 There was a definitive bounce in their step when he 282 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:38.399 got back. 283 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:42.759 There was a jolt of momentum, energy and energy and 284 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:46.519 motion in the way they played after that, No doubt. 285 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.240 I saw that from the floor, you know, watching those 286 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:54.000 games from the floor, no doubt. But still you get 287 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.960 into the tournament and we sit there and think they 288 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.600 should get to the final four. But then on the 289 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:01.960 other hand, it's like, when they do, you go, dang, 290 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:03.480 that was really hard. But they got there. 291 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.519 Yeah, well, and they had great players at the time. 292 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.519 I you know, if you ask me who they played 293 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.240 outside of the one game in the final four, I 294 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.799 couldn't tell you because I don't remember, and I should. 295 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.519 But I think they lost. And this is the honest 296 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.519 truth for me. I thought they lost the national championship 297 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.360 at the semi final level, not from their end, because 298 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.200 they beat Michigan pretty Michigan State pretty badly. But Duke, 299 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.879 if you remember, played Maryland and Maryland had them by 300 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.799 double digits, and you think, if they could just get Maryland, 301 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.799 they're gonna kick the craft out of them. And then 302 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.799 Duke came back and won that, and you're thinking that's 303 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.879 when they that's when they lost the championship, because Duke 304 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.440 was fantastic. They were really good. They were just equally 305 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.440 as as talented as as Arizona. And then and then 306 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:47.919 Gilbert gets hurt, Luke gets hurt, and they were kind 307 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.320 of playing one handed, one behind, one hand behind their back, 308 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.879 and then they get a little job or two, you know, 309 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.080 a couple of bad calls, and you know, loose legacy 310 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:56.879 would have been totally. 311 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:00.759 Different, even though we're two championships, two championships, though, it's 312 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.559 the legacy is pretty solid, pretty solid and incredible. 313 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.639 Yes, if he gets a second one, it's even. 314 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.200 Yeah, and then he gets the second one, you know what, 315 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:11.600 you don't think of Chicago? 316 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.679 Yeah, right, And and that's the lasting taste for fairs. 317 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:19.000 And that's kind of exactly because they were right there. 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