WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.000 house Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. You 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.359 know what I really need. I need Dean and Tina 4 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.800 in my home staring at that problem, helping me figure 5 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:18.320 this specific thing out. Well, you know what that can 6 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:20.800 happen too. You can book an in home design consult 7 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.839 with me and the t You just go to house 8 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:29.359 Whisperer dot Design, house Whisperer dot Design. All right, we 9 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:34.119 are talking all things cabinets, specifically kitchen cabinets today, even 10 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:37.640 though my special in studio guest, John Cordero from the 11 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:41.759 Kitchen Store, they do bathroom cabinets as well, But kitchen 12 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.320 cabinets are just they're the thing, right, I mean, they 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.439 are the thing. They're kind of the center of the 14 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:49.880 cabinet universe when it comes to homes. And there's a 15 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.119 whole lot to discuss, and we're gonna return to that 16 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:55.560 conversation in just a bit. But it's top of the hour, 17 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.280 which means it's time to go to the phones, and 18 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.039 I think we might have a cabinet question here, John. Anyway, 19 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.400 I want to talk to Susan. Hey, Susan, Welcome home. 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:11.159 Thank you. I'm home. Thank you Dean so much. Thank you, Richie, Tea, 21 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.560 and John, thank you for being here today with us. 22 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.799 I'm in Santa Monica. I have old kitchen cabinets that 23 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.439 I get zero enjoyment from. I'd like to know if 24 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.560 there's a way to upgrade these old cabinets without spending 25 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.040 a small fortune. I'm willing to spend thousands, but just 26 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.760 not that many thousands. And I'd like to love my cabinets. 27 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.480 Okay, So can I ask you specifically? You get no 28 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.000 joy from them? What are the things about your cabinets 29 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:39.799 that you like the least? 30 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.799 Oh my god, the doors fly open, they don't stay 31 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:48.599 shut at all. The hinges are bronze looking. I'd rather 32 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.879 have white. The knobs were not put in per correctly. 33 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.159 They're like up high instead of being at eye level. 34 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.359 But mainly I guess it's the doors, just they if 35 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.400 they fly around, the doors literally fly, there's no you know, 36 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:11.479 they're just old and uh there. And the drawers. The 37 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.759 drawers I guess are sort of okay, but I don't. 38 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.759 They don't fly that great, but they're okay okay. Mainly 39 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.400 the way the doors hang and the hitches are ugly. 40 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.560 We got you, we got you. I think you're gonna 41 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:29.039 find uh susan for your situation, some really good news here, John. 42 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:30.520 You want to handle it, you want to take it, 43 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.919 tackle it. I know what you're gonna say. I know 44 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:33.919 what you're gonna say. 45 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:39.520 What that maybe go new cabinets, maybe maybe, But you 46 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:43.319 do have another option. So I mean, your cabinets are 47 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:46.479 probably constructed pretty good if you say you're out in Sandea, Monica. 48 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.000 So I suggest that I always tell people as either 49 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.800 you could reface and then just kind of give your 50 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.520 cabinets a whole new look. In your situation, would I 51 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.240 recommend if you can get yourself a painter that can 52 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:59.639 paint the inside of your cabinets, you can come see 53 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.800 us here at the kitchen store. We could provide you 54 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.319 the doors, brand new hinges. We could give you even 55 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.319 new drawer boxes, new runners. You get all the soft 56 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.960 closing and everything. You get to choose a different color, 57 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.439 different door style. So that might be something that might 58 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:12.879 work for you. 59 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:13.479 I knew it. 60 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:16.319 I knew that's what you're gonna say. Now you mentioned refacing. 61 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:23.000 Refacing can be what you suggested, new drawer faces and doors. Okay, 62 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.639 but refacing also has another connotation in the cabinet world, right, 63 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.599 one that has was very popular in the eighties and 64 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:33.120 nineties and wild, but it's kind of I don't know, 65 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.800 it's a thing, and that is like these lambinate materials 66 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:42.319 that get stuck onto, glued onto old cabinet frames and faces. 67 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:42.680 Yep. 68 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.879 Now you you actually have some experience with that in 69 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:51.319 the past. You did that for a while. I always 70 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.199 find that that. I mean, that's going to extend the 71 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.400 life of the cabinet for a while, but it's gonna delaminate. 72 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:58.319 It always does. 73 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.319 Yeah, you typically get about five maybe ten years life 74 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.800 out of your cabinets after you do that. But eventually 75 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.560 you are going to start seeing that word in there 76 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.520 on your cabinet boxes. 77 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:07.879 Yeah. 78 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.120 Your doors, your doors should be good. If you go 79 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.240 to a good dealer, they should be able to give 80 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:13.280 you some solid doors. 81 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:13.879 Right. 82 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.040 So that's why I love this advice because John's not 83 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.959 suggesting that you do that laminate refacing, but get a 84 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:24.120 good painter to get in there and repaint and then 85 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:29.399 get new doorfronts, drawer fronts. And that's what a lot 86 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.480 of people don't realize about their cabinets is that you 87 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.879 know when you said, Susan, that your hinges are bronze, uh, 88 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:40.160 and that means that they're exposed, that we can see them, 89 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.480 and that they have their zero control hinges, meaning that 90 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.639 they're just a typically they're like a door hinge in 91 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:49.319 your house. Right, so if the cabinet comes unlatched, you know, 92 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.839 they could swing right open. Whatever. There's no reason on 93 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:56.680 a face frame cabinet like yours that it can't be 94 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:02.920 retrofitted with hidden, fully adjustable soft closing hinges and full 95 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.759 drawer glides. You know, maybe your drawers right now are 96 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:10.959 just wood on wood sliding out friction. Right, most drawerboxes 97 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.279 can be retro fit with the glides underneath, glides that 98 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.120 will allow it to be soft closed. They'll glide right 99 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:20.399 on out, they'll glide right on in. So our guest, Susan, 100 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:24.040 and you know, tell us if we're wrong. Is that 101 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.360 the part of your kitchen. That's why I asked you 102 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.959 what you hate about it. I'm guessing that your cabinets 103 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.959 don't look crappy. You just hate the way they work. 104 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.120 Most of the time. You got doors wall you know, 105 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.000 just fling open. You got you know, stuff like that. 106 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.160 If you could repaint, put a fresh door and drawer 107 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.800 face on that. I mean, that's that's ninety eight percent 108 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:48.959 of the look of the cabinet anyway, and a good 109 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.360 paint shop. And then in the guts, right, just a 110 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:59.360 refresh with with soft clothes hardware. I was just at 111 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:03.160 a console earlier this week, and uh, it was actually 112 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.240 a kitchen that was in pretty good shape. It was 113 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:07.720 generally in pretty good shape. It was a kitchen built 114 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:13.279 in the in the late eighties, and uh, and the 115 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.480 homeowner was still wondering, is there anything that can be 116 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.199 done with this kitchen. I'm like, yeah, you already have 117 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.680 hidden hinges, but none of these are soft clothes. You 118 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:25.639 know how inexpensive it is to just change out a 119 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.759 hidden hinge that's not soft clothed to one that is 120 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:32.040 because that soft clothes is the standard. You just throw 121 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.600 a rock and hit a soft clothes hinge these days. Right, 122 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.920 So those are things that existing kitchens can increment, I 123 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.399 mean in major increments, can be improved. 124 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:42.639 Right. 125 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.759 Yeah, here's a funny thing. The manufacturers for these soft 126 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.439 clothes they had it on and off button. So let's 127 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.759 say you just hate soft clothing, you want that free swing. 128 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.160 There's an on and off button. Funny thing. 129 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.120 You can disengage the soft clothes pretty much. Yeah, you 130 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.879 can disengage it. How is that, Susan? 131 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:00.480 Is that's a. 132 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.399 Fantastic I have one other question. Can I install soft 133 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.759 clothes hinges and leave the old doors? But do I 134 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.040 have to have new doors? 135 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.600 Chances are that, like Dean said, it's the hinge that's 136 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.959 on the outside, so you probably won't be able to 137 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:15.920 do a soft clothes on. 138 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.199 It just because of the way the hinges I see. 139 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.360 Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, But like ten thousand dollars for 140 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:28.160 new doors, all depends on the size of your kitchen, 141 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:29.240 your style. 142 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:30.279 That you want in the color. 143 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.600 Okay, I'm guessing a smaller kitchen in Santa Monica, Susan, 144 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:37.480 you're not looking at ten thousand dollars of doors. But 145 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.199 you know what, here's the thing. The kitchen stores in 146 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.639 Culver City. You just got to get up, run down 147 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.079 the freeway a few blocks and get over there and 148 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.639 start talking to these beautiful designers and they're going to 149 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.959 help you figure it out. They will, they will. That's 150 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:52.680 what I love about the kitchen. So I love that 151 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.360 about you guys. You guys first and foremost education, just like, 152 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.319 help us figure out what to do next. It's not 153 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.279 like anybody is gonna go in there. I've got a 154 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.319 strong desire to preserve an existing kitchen, and nobody's gonna 155 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.000 like roll their eyes and say, Nope, you just got 156 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:10.160 to buy brand new from us. 157 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.399 You can't figure it out, We'll guide you the right way. 158 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:13.519 There you go, there you go. 159 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:13.920 All right. 160 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.480 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 161 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:23.120 KFI A M six forty. Thanks for joining us on 162 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:26.079 the program. We're talking cabinets today with my special in studio. 163 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.720 Just guess John, I was just jumping right ahead to 164 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.279 your name, John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. But right 165 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:38.039 now I want to take at least another call or 166 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.919 two if I can, and uh, and then we will 167 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:46.279 return to that conversation. Let's talk to let's see dump 168 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.440 da dun dun d d d u. Let's talk to Alex. 169 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.279 Hey Alex, welcome home. 170 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.240 Yes, good morning, Dean. I'm a huge fan of your show. 171 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.080 Thank you so very much for all the information on 172 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:05.320 that you're providing so recently installed solar panels and batteries 173 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.519 and so this is my question. I want to replace 174 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:12.320 my water heater to get some space in the garage. 175 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.080 I'm looking for electric tanklus water heater. What would you recommend? 176 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.960 This is a large house that has the basroom, so 177 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:22.879 any like really powerful thing. 178 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.039 Yeah, well, they're out there, they're out there. I mean 179 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.639 you you are. You are fortunate, Alex. Now, I'm not 180 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.159 going to recommend one particular brand over another, although I'll 181 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.480 tell you that, you know, strike at the heart of 182 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.960 major brands. That's what I'm saying, right, Uh, don't don't. 183 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.320 I don't wanna. I don't want you to end up 184 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:47.759 with a you know, a gold Leaf uh electric water heater, 185 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.639 because I've never heard of that brand, and no one 186 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:54.240 ever has, right, And what that is is that that's 187 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:59.440 some other brand manufacture a cheaper version of their equipment 188 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.679 that a come he has put their own brand label on, 189 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:06.840 and they're selling you as some new brand at a 190 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.519 discounted price. Stay away from that, Stay with mainline brands. 191 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:14.960 Stay with a company like Navvian. Okay, literally, Navvian at 192 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.159 the cutting edge of most electric water heaters. So there, 193 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.480 I told you. I wasn't going to give you a recommendation, 194 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.799 but I'm going to give you one. Check out Navian. 195 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.279 Let them be kind of the standard by which you 196 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.480 But there are others. There's so many others. There's realm, 197 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.000 there's rud there are all sorts of great manufacturers out there. 198 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.320 And we just happened to live in the golden age 199 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:38.200 of tankless water heaters. And over the last few years, 200 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:43.759 because of the trend toward electrification of all homes, okay, 201 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.480 all of these companies have responded very seriously, and you 202 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.840 can get yourself a serious, really powerful, very nice electric 203 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.360 tankless water heater that'll feed the whole house for you 204 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.759 and take care of you real well. Gonna suck up 205 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.720 some juice, it is, but you've got solar, You got 206 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.840 yourself covered, and so you're in a good position to 207 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.879 have that happen. And yeah, tankless is gonna help save 208 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.440 you space because of you've got a big tanked water 209 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.639 heater taking up space somewhere. The tankless can go wall 210 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.600 mount and get off that big reservoir of water, and 211 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:25.399 tankless can also go outside. There just about every version 212 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.600 of tankless water heater that has an indoor version has 213 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:34.759 an exterior clad outdoor vented version and they work great too. 214 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:36.679 I've got one sitting on the back side of my 215 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.440 house because I live in such a small house that 216 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.120 I didn't want any I didn't want to have to 217 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.840 have the water heater inside. So it's mounted on an 218 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.000 exterior wall and it puts up with the elements and 219 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.480 we've never had a problem with it. So yeah, go 220 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.639 for it. You're you're headed in the right direction and 221 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:53.639 you're thinking the right thought. 222 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:54.360 My brind. 223 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:58.679 Okay, what would be the minimum galance per minute that 224 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.039 they need to get for three bars some halls? 225 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.519 Ah, Now that my friend is a that is a 226 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.360 something I can't tell you right here on the air. 227 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:13.159 And the reason is, I'll tell you why. It's not 228 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:17.840 just about three bedroom, three baths, Okay, it's really a 229 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.159 lot of it comes down to your preference. Okay, because 230 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:25.559 gallons per minute of tankless water heaters the gallons per minute, 231 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:28.320 and this is really important for everybody to understand how 232 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.519 a tankless water heater is calculated for a house. It's 233 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.759 not just like an old tanked water heater where it's 234 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.639 like it'd be nice to have one hundred gallons, I'll 235 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.679 do one hundred gallon water heater. No, a tankless water 236 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.720 heater has to have the production capacity to push a 237 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:45.279 certain amount of hot water out into the house. 238 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:45.639 Right. 239 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.240 So now other question is, well, how much hot water 240 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.840 do we need? How much flow do we need. Some 241 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:52.600 of it has to do with the size of the house. 242 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.200 If you've got ten bathrooms in a house, okay, then 243 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.120 you're not going to put a two gallon per minute 244 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.720 tankless water heater, because what will happen is one person 245 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.240 will be using that, and if another person turns on 246 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.919 the hot water somewhere else in the house, then that 247 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.440 amount of low flow hot water has to be shared 248 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.799 between the two and everybody's water becomes warm, not hot anymore. 249 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.000 So the flow to keep piping hot water going to 250 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.840 everybody has to do with your choice in a lot 251 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.480 of ways. How many things in your home? How many 252 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:32.840 hot water fixtures do you want to have going full 253 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:34.639 speed all at the same time? 254 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:35.120 Okay? 255 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.159 Do you want three people to be able to take 256 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:44.240 steaming hot showers at the same time while the laundry 257 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.679 is running and the washing machine is using hot water, 258 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.320 and while somebody is in the kitchen using hot water 259 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.480 at the kitchen sink. Well, the way that you do 260 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.000 is you simply add up this shower head has a 261 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.519 three and a half gallon per minute flow. That shower 262 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.320 head has a two gallon per minute flow. This shower 263 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.600 head has a three gallon per minute flow. You add 264 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.840 those up. Then you add how much a gallons per 265 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.399 minute the washing machine takes, and how many gallons per 266 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.240 minute the sink faucet takes. Add them all up, and 267 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.200 if you want them all at once, that's the magic number. 268 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:19.200 Could be eleven gallons per minute, could be fourteen gallons 269 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:21.919 per minute, could be six gallons per minute that you 270 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.559 need the flowing into the house. And that, my friend, 271 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:29.480 is how you calculate tankless water heater volume and the 272 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.320 kind of tankless water heater to match to your house. 273 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:38.480 It's really a small house, Okay. The homeowner may want 274 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.240 a very large tankless water heater flow because they simply 275 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.519 want everybody to be able to use every hot water 276 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.919 from every faucet in the house, everywhere, all at the 277 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.000 same time. Totally the legit request. 278 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:50.399 Okay. 279 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.000 A larger house is like, now I live here alone, Okay, 280 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.600 so I'm never going to use more than three sources 281 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.879 of hot water at the same time. Have a smaller 282 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.639 tankless That's the interesting thing about tankless water heaters. But 283 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.399 that's how they're measured. You add up the gallons per 284 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.159 minute of the actual fixtures that you're using, and that's 285 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.720 how you know. All right, everybody, when we return, we're 286 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.639 going to jive back into our conversation about kitchen cabinets 287 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.159 with my special in studio guest, John Cordero. You're listening 288 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.080 to Dean Sharp the House Whisper. You're listening to Home 289 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.799 with Dean Sharp on demand from KFI Am six forty. 290 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.440 You are Home Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Thanks for 291 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:34.840 joining us on the program today. It is always a 292 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.759 oh thanks Lucky. That's our rooster in the background here. 293 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:45.159 It's a little late. Sun's been up for like six hours. Yeah, 294 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.120 Lucky and I have a The reason Lucky is named 295 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:53.360 Lucky is that he's still here. That's the reason that 296 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:58.159 he still exists. He doesn't give us eggs, and he 297 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.759 makes a lot of noise. Oh, he is therefore Lucky. 298 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:07.440 What's the perfect name Lucky because we tolerate Lucky. Thank 299 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:07.960 you Lucky? 300 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:08.399 All right. 301 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:12.000 Anyway, I'm so glad that you're with us on the program, 302 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.360 and what a valuable program we have for you today. 303 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:19.080 We're talking all things cabinetry. It is a subject that 304 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:24.320 eludes so many people. It just seems like such a big, big, 305 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.759 big topic, and so I'm trying to break it down 306 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.039 with my special in studio guest, my favorite cabinet guy 307 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.879 in the world, John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. So 308 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:39.919 we're just sitting here just talking cabinets, trying to make 309 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.879 it as simple for you to understand as possible. We're 310 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:44.960 not gonna be able to do that because it's a 311 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.000 huge topic, but we're giving you a sense, giving you 312 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:54.600 a bite size grip on the thing. There are so 313 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.240 many aspects that we could go John, before it escapes 314 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.799 me and we go off on another tangent. I want 315 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.679 to talk to you about what are the kinds of 316 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.000 things when people come into the kitchen store. Okay, your 317 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.039 typical person coming in, What are the kinds of things 318 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:14.240 that you tend to see that they've got questions about 319 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.279 that they don't understand. Where are they leaning? How? You know, 320 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.440 how do you guys help them out? And you know, 321 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:20.279 step by step? 322 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:22.960 The biggest thing that people walk in their their issues 323 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.839 is is uh just planning right. A lot of people 324 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.279 come in there they're not sure where to start. That's 325 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:31.480 the biggest question I go, Where do I start? I 326 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.920 always tell them you need inspirations, right, I think me 327 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.400 and you were talking about get pictures, get anything you 328 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.000 could come in there with. When they come to the 329 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.480 kitchen store, we try to help them. We have designers 330 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:44.640 on staff that try to help them and guide them, like, look, 331 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.920 this is the nice color you could go with. But 332 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.960 it's always about functionality. What's going to work for you? 333 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:53.680 What makes your kitchen? What do you need? What organization 334 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.960 stuff do you need. Do you have a mix or 335 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.200 do you have blenders? Do you have a whole knife collection? 336 00:17:59.480 --> 00:17:59.920 What do you have? 337 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.319 So we try to organize your kitchen to you. We 338 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.640 wanted to flow to you, wanted to work for you. 339 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.720 So the biggest problem that I always tell clients is 340 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.119 get as much inspiration as you can. Know your colors, 341 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:14.480 what works in your house, and what do you need 342 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:15.559 and what works for you? 343 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.160 Okay? So, and I love that advice because that's exactly 344 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.279 why I send so many of our clients your way 345 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:25.319 with exactly that mandate, because I hear the same thing. 346 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.680 I hear the same thing when like Dean, how are 347 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.920 we going to start addressing the kitchen? Where do we start. 348 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.119 I don't even know what to do, and I'm like, 349 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.240 all right, first of all, relax, don't panic. 350 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:36.880 Okay. 351 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:40.039 Secondly, the fact that you don't know what to do 352 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.640 is it's perfectly normal. Okay, It's a perfectly normal situation 353 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.039 to be in. Don't worry about that. And most of 354 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:50.759 them are surprised, and I love that you and I 355 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.640 were talking about this during the break. Most of them 356 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.279 are surprised that. My first piece of advice to them 357 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.000 is it's time for you to go get inspired and play. 358 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.559 You need to spend some time playing. So I'm telling you, 359 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.799 all right now, that's why I want you to go 360 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:08.440 to the kitchen store. Because a cabinet design showroom like 361 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.119 the Kitchen Store, it's not just oh well, I'll see 362 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.200 the cabinets that they have out there, and then I 363 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.720 guess I'll figure out which cabinet I want. That's not 364 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.640 really what it's about. What it's about is is to 365 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.839 go there and to start looking through every cabinet everywhere, 366 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.720 opening up every drawer, every drawer, what's inside this one? 367 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:29.519 Oh my gosh, I didn't even know you could do 368 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.079 that to a cabinet. That kind of stuff, Like I 369 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:38.119 always tell you here. First of all, design matters most, always, always, always, 370 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:42.000 always always design matters most. And how do you get 371 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.240 to that place where you start approaching it from play? 372 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.279 Just start playing? You need a sandbox to play in, right, 373 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:51.680 And the kitchen store is that kind of a place. 374 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:53.799 It's a kind of place where you can just come 375 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:59.079 and start just looking around. And why not because windows 376 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.839 shopping is free. You don't have to do anything. You 377 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:05.359 don't even have to you know, people ask me like 378 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.519 do I have to bring my kitchen dimensions in? Do 379 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.119 I our to what do I have to figure out 380 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:11.000 before I go to the kitchen store? It's like, well, 381 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:13.279 if you want to bring your dimensions in, if you 382 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.160 want to bring a floor plan in, great, If you're 383 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:19.119 not ready to do that, who cares. Just come in 384 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.640 and start looking at things. And what were we talking about? 385 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.319 Of all the things that could go into every kitchen, 386 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.559 I've never put everything that could go into a kitchen 387 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:35.319 into a single kitchen. They're going to be looking around 388 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:40.400 and then something, they're gonna find something and that one 389 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.160 thing even if they're like you know, and we were 390 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:47.079 joking during the break because John has experiences all the time, 391 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.480 like Okay, You've got kitchens of every style of wood, 392 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:55.240 of every from contemporary to super traditional. I mean, you 393 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:58.880 guys have the entire spectrum of what cabinets can look 394 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:04.680 like at your disposal, every color imaginable, the wall of 395 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:09.240 doors and colors up on the wall just to see 396 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:13.240 like all the colors that a kitchen could be. And 397 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:15.640 yet most of the time people end up with a 398 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.319 white Shaker cabin And there's reasons for that. There are 399 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:23.519 reasons for that. I mean, white is every color, okay, 400 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.799 and Shaker a Shaker style door is it's a two 401 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.279