Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the
Speaker 1: house Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. You
Speaker 1: know what I really need. I need Dean and Tina
Speaker 1: in my home staring at that problem, helping me figure
Speaker 1: this specific thing out. Well, you know what that can
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Speaker 1: Whisperer dot Design, house Whisperer dot Design. All right, we
Speaker 1: are talking all things cabinets, specifically kitchen cabinets today, even
Speaker 1: though my special in studio guest, John Cordero from the
Speaker 1: Kitchen Store, they do bathroom cabinets as well, But kitchen
Speaker 1: cabinets are just they're the thing, right, I mean, they
Speaker 1: are the thing. They're kind of the center of the
Speaker 1: cabinet universe when it comes to homes. And there's a
Speaker 1: whole lot to discuss, and we're gonna return to that
Speaker 1: conversation in just a bit. But it's top of the hour,
Speaker 1: which means it's time to go to the phones, and
Speaker 1: I think we might have a cabinet question here, John. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to Susan. Hey, Susan, Welcome home.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm home. Thank you Dean so much. Thank you, Richie, Tea,
Speaker 2: and John, thank you for being here today with us.
Speaker 2: I'm in Santa Monica. I have old kitchen cabinets that
Speaker 2: I get zero enjoyment from. I'd like to know if
Speaker 2: there's a way to upgrade these old cabinets without spending
Speaker 2: a small fortune. I'm willing to spend thousands, but just
Speaker 2: not that many thousands. And I'd like to love my cabinets.
Speaker 1: Okay, So can I ask you specifically? You get no
Speaker 1: joy from them? What are the things about your cabinets
Speaker 1: that you like the least?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the doors fly open, they don't stay
Speaker 2: shut at all. The hinges are bronze looking. I'd rather
Speaker 2: have white. The knobs were not put in per correctly.
Speaker 2: They're like up high instead of being at eye level.
Speaker 2: But mainly I guess it's the doors, just they if
Speaker 2: they fly around, the doors literally fly, there's no you know,
Speaker 2: they're just old and uh there. And the drawers. The
Speaker 2: drawers I guess are sort of okay, but I don't.
Speaker 2: They don't fly that great, but they're okay okay. Mainly
Speaker 2: the way the doors hang and the hitches are ugly.
Speaker 1: We got you, we got you. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: find uh susan for your situation, some really good news here, John.
Speaker 1: You want to handle it, you want to take it,
Speaker 1: tackle it. I know what you're gonna say. I know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3: What that maybe go new cabinets, maybe maybe, But you
Speaker 3: do have another option. So I mean, your cabinets are
Speaker 3: probably constructed pretty good if you say you're out in Sandea, Monica.
Speaker 3: So I suggest that I always tell people as either
Speaker 3: you could reface and then just kind of give your
Speaker 3: cabinets a whole new look. In your situation, would I
Speaker 3: recommend if you can get yourself a painter that can
Speaker 3: paint the inside of your cabinets, you can come see
Speaker 3: us here at the kitchen store. We could provide you
Speaker 3: the doors, brand new hinges. We could give you even
Speaker 3: new drawer boxes, new runners. You get all the soft
Speaker 3: closing and everything. You get to choose a different color,
Speaker 3: different door style. So that might be something that might
Speaker 3: work for you.
Speaker 4: I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew that's what you're gonna say. Now you mentioned refacing.
Speaker 1: Refacing can be what you suggested, new drawer faces and doors. Okay,
Speaker 1: but refacing also has another connotation in the cabinet world, right,
Speaker 1: one that has was very popular in the eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties and wild, but it's kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a thing, and that is like these lambinate materials
Speaker 1: that get stuck onto, glued onto old cabinet frames and faces.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Now you you actually have some experience with that in
Speaker 1: the past. You did that for a while. I always
Speaker 1: find that that. I mean, that's going to extend the
Speaker 1: life of the cabinet for a while, but it's gonna delaminate.
Speaker 1: It always does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you typically get about five maybe ten years life
Speaker 3: out of your cabinets after you do that. But eventually
Speaker 3: you are going to start seeing that word in there
Speaker 3: on your cabinet boxes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Your doors, your doors should be good. If you go
Speaker 3: to a good dealer, they should be able to give
Speaker 3: you some solid doors.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's why I love this advice because John's not
Speaker 1: suggesting that you do that laminate refacing, but get a
Speaker 1: good painter to get in there and repaint and then
Speaker 1: get new doorfronts, drawer fronts. And that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't realize about their cabinets is that you
Speaker 1: know when you said, Susan, that your hinges are bronze, uh,
Speaker 1: and that means that they're exposed, that we can see them,
Speaker 1: and that they have their zero control hinges, meaning that
Speaker 1: they're just a typically they're like a door hinge in
Speaker 1: your house. Right, so if the cabinet comes unlatched, you know,
Speaker 1: they could swing right open. Whatever. There's no reason on
Speaker 1: a face frame cabinet like yours that it can't be
Speaker 1: retrofitted with hidden, fully adjustable soft closing hinges and full
Speaker 1: drawer glides. You know, maybe your drawers right now are
Speaker 1: just wood on wood sliding out friction. Right, most drawerboxes
Speaker 1: can be retro fit with the glides underneath, glides that
Speaker 1: will allow it to be soft closed. They'll glide right
Speaker 1: on out, they'll glide right on in. So our guest, Susan,
Speaker 1: and you know, tell us if we're wrong. Is that
Speaker 1: the part of your kitchen. That's why I asked you
Speaker 1: what you hate about it. I'm guessing that your cabinets
Speaker 1: don't look crappy. You just hate the way they work.
Speaker 1: Most of the time. You got doors wall you know,
Speaker 1: just fling open. You got you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: If you could repaint, put a fresh door and drawer
Speaker 1: face on that. I mean, that's that's ninety eight percent
Speaker 1: of the look of the cabinet anyway, and a good
Speaker 1: paint shop. And then in the guts, right, just a
Speaker 1: refresh with with soft clothes hardware. I was just at
Speaker 1: a console earlier this week, and uh, it was actually
Speaker 1: a kitchen that was in pretty good shape. It was
Speaker 1: generally in pretty good shape. It was a kitchen built
Speaker 1: in the in the late eighties, and uh, and the
Speaker 1: homeowner was still wondering, is there anything that can be
Speaker 1: done with this kitchen. I'm like, yeah, you already have
Speaker 1: hidden hinges, but none of these are soft clothes. You
Speaker 1: know how inexpensive it is to just change out a
Speaker 1: hidden hinge that's not soft clothed to one that is
Speaker 1: because that soft clothes is the standard. You just throw
Speaker 1: a rock and hit a soft clothes hinge these days. Right,
Speaker 1: So those are things that existing kitchens can increment, I
Speaker 1: mean in major increments, can be improved.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a funny thing. The manufacturers for these soft
Speaker 3: clothes they had it on and off button. So let's
Speaker 3: say you just hate soft clothing, you want that free swing.
Speaker 3: There's an on and off button. Funny thing.
Speaker 1: You can disengage the soft clothes pretty much. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can disengage it. How is that, Susan?
Speaker 5: Is that's a.
Speaker 2: Fantastic I have one other question. Can I install soft
Speaker 2: clothes hinges and leave the old doors? But do I
Speaker 2: have to have new doors?
Speaker 3: Chances are that, like Dean said, it's the hinge that's
Speaker 3: on the outside, so you probably won't be able to
Speaker 3: do a soft clothes on.
Speaker 5: It just because of the way the hinges I see.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, But like ten thousand dollars for
Speaker 2: new doors, all depends on the size of your kitchen,
Speaker 2: your style.
Speaker 5: That you want in the color.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm guessing a smaller kitchen in Santa Monica, Susan,
Speaker 1: you're not looking at ten thousand dollars of doors. But
Speaker 1: you know what, here's the thing. The kitchen stores in
Speaker 1: Culver City. You just got to get up, run down
Speaker 1: the freeway a few blocks and get over there and
Speaker 1: start talking to these beautiful designers and they're going to
Speaker 1: help you figure it out. They will, they will. That's
Speaker 1: what I love about the kitchen. So I love that
Speaker 1: about you guys. You guys first and foremost education, just like,
Speaker 1: help us figure out what to do next. It's not
Speaker 1: like anybody is gonna go in there. I've got a
Speaker 1: strong desire to preserve an existing kitchen, and nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: like roll their eyes and say, Nope, you just got
Speaker 1: to buy brand new from us.
Speaker 5: You can't figure it out, We'll guide you the right way.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI A M six forty. Thanks for joining us on
Speaker 1: the program. We're talking cabinets today with my special in studio.
Speaker 1: Just guess John, I was just jumping right ahead to
Speaker 1: your name, John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. But right
Speaker 1: now I want to take at least another call or
Speaker 1: two if I can, and uh, and then we will
Speaker 1: return to that conversation. Let's talk to let's see dump
Speaker 1: da dun dun d d d u. Let's talk to Alex.
Speaker 1: Hey Alex, welcome home.
Speaker 4: Yes, good morning, Dean. I'm a huge fan of your show.
Speaker 4: Thank you so very much for all the information on
Speaker 4: that you're providing so recently installed solar panels and batteries
Speaker 4: and so this is my question. I want to replace
Speaker 4: my water heater to get some space in the garage.
Speaker 4: I'm looking for electric tanklus water heater. What would you recommend?
Speaker 4: This is a large house that has the basroom, so
Speaker 4: any like really powerful thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're out there, they're out there. I mean
Speaker 1: you you are. You are fortunate, Alex. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to recommend one particular brand over another, although I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, strike at the heart of
Speaker 1: major brands. That's what I'm saying, right, Uh, don't don't.
Speaker 1: I don't wanna. I don't want you to end up
Speaker 1: with a you know, a gold Leaf uh electric water heater,
Speaker 1: because I've never heard of that brand, and no one
Speaker 1: ever has, right, And what that is is that that's
Speaker 1: some other brand manufacture a cheaper version of their equipment
Speaker 1: that a come he has put their own brand label on,
Speaker 1: and they're selling you as some new brand at a
Speaker 1: discounted price. Stay away from that, Stay with mainline brands.
Speaker 1: Stay with a company like Navvian. Okay, literally, Navvian at
Speaker 1: the cutting edge of most electric water heaters. So there,
Speaker 1: I told you. I wasn't going to give you a recommendation,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to give you one. Check out Navian.
Speaker 1: Let them be kind of the standard by which you
Speaker 1: But there are others. There's so many others. There's realm,
Speaker 1: there's rud there are all sorts of great manufacturers out there.
Speaker 1: And we just happened to live in the golden age
Speaker 1: of tankless water heaters. And over the last few years,
Speaker 1: because of the trend toward electrification of all homes, okay,
Speaker 1: all of these companies have responded very seriously, and you
Speaker 1: can get yourself a serious, really powerful, very nice electric
Speaker 1: tankless water heater that'll feed the whole house for you
Speaker 1: and take care of you real well. Gonna suck up
Speaker 1: some juice, it is, but you've got solar, You got
Speaker 1: yourself covered, and so you're in a good position to
Speaker 1: have that happen. And yeah, tankless is gonna help save
Speaker 1: you space because of you've got a big tanked water
Speaker 1: heater taking up space somewhere. The tankless can go wall
Speaker 1: mount and get off that big reservoir of water, and
Speaker 1: tankless can also go outside. There just about every version
Speaker 1: of tankless water heater that has an indoor version has
Speaker 1: an exterior clad outdoor vented version and they work great too.
Speaker 1: I've got one sitting on the back side of my
Speaker 1: house because I live in such a small house that
Speaker 1: I didn't want any I didn't want to have to
Speaker 1: have the water heater inside. So it's mounted on an
Speaker 1: exterior wall and it puts up with the elements and
Speaker 1: we've never had a problem with it. So yeah, go
Speaker 1: for it. You're you're headed in the right direction and
Speaker 1: you're thinking the right thought.
Speaker 5: My brind.
Speaker 4: Okay, what would be the minimum galance per minute that
Speaker 4: they need to get for three bars some halls?
Speaker 1: Ah, Now that my friend is a that is a
Speaker 1: something I can't tell you right here on the air.
Speaker 1: And the reason is, I'll tell you why. It's not
Speaker 1: just about three bedroom, three baths, Okay, it's really a
Speaker 1: lot of it comes down to your preference. Okay, because
Speaker 1: gallons per minute of tankless water heaters the gallons per minute,
Speaker 1: and this is really important for everybody to understand how
Speaker 1: a tankless water heater is calculated for a house. It's
Speaker 1: not just like an old tanked water heater where it's
Speaker 1: like it'd be nice to have one hundred gallons, I'll
Speaker 1: do one hundred gallon water heater. No, a tankless water
Speaker 1: heater has to have the production capacity to push a
Speaker 1: certain amount of hot water out into the house.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So now other question is, well, how much hot water
Speaker 1: do we need? How much flow do we need. Some
Speaker 1: of it has to do with the size of the house.
Speaker 1: If you've got ten bathrooms in a house, okay, then
Speaker 1: you're not going to put a two gallon per minute
Speaker 1: tankless water heater, because what will happen is one person
Speaker 1: will be using that, and if another person turns on
Speaker 1: the hot water somewhere else in the house, then that
Speaker 1: amount of low flow hot water has to be shared
Speaker 1: between the two and everybody's water becomes warm, not hot anymore.
Speaker 1: So the flow to keep piping hot water going to
Speaker 1: everybody has to do with your choice in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. How many things in your home? How many
Speaker 1: hot water fixtures do you want to have going full
Speaker 1: speed all at the same time?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Do you want three people to be able to take
Speaker 1: steaming hot showers at the same time while the laundry
Speaker 1: is running and the washing machine is using hot water,
Speaker 1: and while somebody is in the kitchen using hot water
Speaker 1: at the kitchen sink. Well, the way that you do
Speaker 1: is you simply add up this shower head has a
Speaker 1: three and a half gallon per minute flow. That shower
Speaker 1: head has a two gallon per minute flow. This shower
Speaker 1: head has a three gallon per minute flow. You add
Speaker 1: those up. Then you add how much a gallons per
Speaker 1: minute the washing machine takes, and how many gallons per
Speaker 1: minute the sink faucet takes. Add them all up, and
Speaker 1: if you want them all at once, that's the magic number.
Speaker 1: Could be eleven gallons per minute, could be fourteen gallons
Speaker 1: per minute, could be six gallons per minute that you
Speaker 1: need the flowing into the house. And that, my friend,
Speaker 1: is how you calculate tankless water heater volume and the
Speaker 1: kind of tankless water heater to match to your house.
Speaker 1: It's really a small house, Okay. The homeowner may want
Speaker 1: a very large tankless water heater flow because they simply
Speaker 1: want everybody to be able to use every hot water
Speaker 1: from every faucet in the house, everywhere, all at the
Speaker 1: same time. Totally the legit request.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: A larger house is like, now I live here alone, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm never going to use more than three sources
Speaker 1: of hot water at the same time. Have a smaller
Speaker 1: tankless That's the interesting thing about tankless water heaters. But
Speaker 1: that's how they're measured. You add up the gallons per
Speaker 1: minute of the actual fixtures that you're using, and that's
Speaker 1: how you know. All right, everybody, when we return, we're
Speaker 1: going to jive back into our conversation about kitchen cabinets
Speaker 1: with my special in studio guest, John Cordero. You're listening
Speaker 1: to Dean Sharp the House Whisper. You're listening to Home
Speaker 1: with Dean Sharp on demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1: You are Home Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us on the program today. It is always a
Speaker 1: oh thanks Lucky. That's our rooster in the background here.
Speaker 1: It's a little late. Sun's been up for like six hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lucky and I have a The reason Lucky is named
Speaker 1: Lucky is that he's still here. That's the reason that
Speaker 1: he still exists. He doesn't give us eggs, and he
Speaker 1: makes a lot of noise. Oh, he is therefore Lucky.
Speaker 1: What's the perfect name Lucky because we tolerate Lucky. Thank
Speaker 1: you Lucky?
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm so glad that you're with us on the program,
Speaker 1: and what a valuable program we have for you today.
Speaker 1: We're talking all things cabinetry. It is a subject that
Speaker 1: eludes so many people. It just seems like such a big, big,
Speaker 1: big topic, and so I'm trying to break it down
Speaker 1: with my special in studio guest, my favorite cabinet guy
Speaker 1: in the world, John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. So
Speaker 1: we're just sitting here just talking cabinets, trying to make
Speaker 1: it as simple for you to understand as possible. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do that because it's a
Speaker 1: huge topic, but we're giving you a sense, giving you
Speaker 1: a bite size grip on the thing. There are so
Speaker 1: many aspects that we could go John, before it escapes
Speaker 1: me and we go off on another tangent. I want
Speaker 1: to talk to you about what are the kinds of
Speaker 1: things when people come into the kitchen store. Okay, your
Speaker 1: typical person coming in, What are the kinds of things
Speaker 1: that you tend to see that they've got questions about
Speaker 1: that they don't understand. Where are they leaning? How? You know,
Speaker 1: how do you guys help them out? And you know,
Speaker 1: step by step?
Speaker 3: The biggest thing that people walk in their their issues
Speaker 3: is is uh just planning right. A lot of people
Speaker 3: come in there they're not sure where to start. That's
Speaker 3: the biggest question I go, Where do I start? I
Speaker 3: always tell them you need inspirations, right, I think me
Speaker 3: and you were talking about get pictures, get anything you
Speaker 3: could come in there with. When they come to the
Speaker 3: kitchen store, we try to help them. We have designers
Speaker 3: on staff that try to help them and guide them, like, look,
Speaker 3: this is the nice color you could go with. But
Speaker 3: it's always about functionality. What's going to work for you?
Speaker 3: What makes your kitchen? What do you need? What organization
Speaker 3: stuff do you need. Do you have a mix or
Speaker 3: do you have blenders? Do you have a whole knife collection?
Speaker 5: What do you have?
Speaker 3: So we try to organize your kitchen to you. We
Speaker 3: wanted to flow to you, wanted to work for you.
Speaker 3: So the biggest problem that I always tell clients is
Speaker 3: get as much inspiration as you can. Know your colors,
Speaker 3: what works in your house, and what do you need
Speaker 3: and what works for you?
Speaker 1: Okay? So, and I love that advice because that's exactly
Speaker 1: why I send so many of our clients your way
Speaker 1: with exactly that mandate, because I hear the same thing.
Speaker 1: I hear the same thing when like Dean, how are
Speaker 1: we going to start addressing the kitchen? Where do we start.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, first of all, relax, don't panic.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: Secondly, the fact that you don't know what to do
Speaker 1: is it's perfectly normal. Okay, It's a perfectly normal situation
Speaker 1: to be in. Don't worry about that. And most of
Speaker 1: them are surprised, and I love that you and I
Speaker 1: were talking about this during the break. Most of them
Speaker 1: are surprised that. My first piece of advice to them
Speaker 1: is it's time for you to go get inspired and play.
Speaker 1: You need to spend some time playing. So I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: all right now, that's why I want you to go
Speaker 1: to the kitchen store. Because a cabinet design showroom like
Speaker 1: the Kitchen Store, it's not just oh well, I'll see
Speaker 1: the cabinets that they have out there, and then I
Speaker 1: guess I'll figure out which cabinet I want. That's not
Speaker 1: really what it's about. What it's about is is to
Speaker 1: go there and to start looking through every cabinet everywhere,
Speaker 1: opening up every drawer, every drawer, what's inside this one?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I didn't even know you could do
Speaker 1: that to a cabinet. That kind of stuff, Like I
Speaker 1: always tell you here. First of all, design matters most, always, always, always,
Speaker 1: always always design matters most. And how do you get
Speaker 1: to that place where you start approaching it from play?
Speaker 1: Just start playing? You need a sandbox to play in, right,
Speaker 1: And the kitchen store is that kind of a place.
Speaker 1: It's a kind of place where you can just come
Speaker 1: and start just looking around. And why not because windows
Speaker 1: shopping is free. You don't have to do anything. You
Speaker 1: don't even have to you know, people ask me like
Speaker 1: do I have to bring my kitchen dimensions in? Do
Speaker 1: I our to what do I have to figure out
Speaker 1: before I go to the kitchen store? It's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you want to bring your dimensions in, if you
Speaker 1: want to bring a floor plan in, great, If you're
Speaker 1: not ready to do that, who cares. Just come in
Speaker 1: and start looking at things. And what were we talking about?
Speaker 1: Of all the things that could go into every kitchen,
Speaker 1: I've never put everything that could go into a kitchen
Speaker 1: into a single kitchen. They're going to be looking around
Speaker 1: and then something, they're gonna find something and that one
Speaker 1: thing even if they're like you know, and we were
Speaker 1: joking during the break because John has experiences all the time,
Speaker 1: like Okay, You've got kitchens of every style of wood,
Speaker 1: of every from contemporary to super traditional. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys have the entire spectrum of what cabinets can look
Speaker 1: like at your disposal, every color imaginable, the wall of
Speaker 1: doors and colors up on the wall just to see
Speaker 1: like all the colors that a kitchen could be. And
Speaker 1: yet most of the time people end up with a
Speaker 1: white Shaker cabin And there's reasons for that. There are
Speaker 1: reasons for that. I mean, white is every color, okay,
Speaker 1: and Shaker a Shaker style door is it's a two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year old style of door. But because
Speaker 1: it has a clean line, it can go into a
Speaker 1: contemporary house as well as you know, a house that's
Speaker 1: trying to be a period house and everything in between.
Speaker 1: So yeah, most people end up with white Shaker Cabinet's
Speaker 1: not because you're pushing him in that direction. But it's
Speaker 1: like the same like when clients hire us and say,
Speaker 1: all right, I know you guys, you guys are creative.
Speaker 1: Take something out of the box. Give me something out
Speaker 1: of the box. Out of the box. I want something
Speaker 1: out of the box. And then we show him something
Speaker 1: like out of the box and they're like, wow, put
Speaker 1: it back.
Speaker 5: Put it back in the box, put it back in
Speaker 5: the box.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But and there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: if you find out that you're less bold than you
Speaker 1: thought you were.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: But they're going to find something as they play some gadget,
Speaker 1: a gizmo. Uh a. I don't like to call them
Speaker 1: gizmos because they all have practical function yet an insert
Speaker 1: a functionality, a configure. They are going to find something,
Speaker 1: and if they adopt that one thing into their new
Speaker 1: kitchen forever, that is their kitchen now. It is the
Speaker 1: kitchen of their dreams. I've had people come in and
Speaker 1: tell me I want to design my kitchen off of
Speaker 1: automatic trash can, because I want to when I'm carrying trash,
Speaker 1: I don't want to touch my cabinets. We have something
Speaker 1: there at the kitchen store. So you go up to it,
Speaker 1: you hit it, bump it with your knee. It opens
Speaker 1: by itself, easy functionality, exactly exactly. And that's a really
Speaker 1: good point too. And then we're uh, when we come back,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of this specialty stuff, because we're
Speaker 1: at that point. I was going to go in another direction,
Speaker 1: but let's just do that instead, and don't let me
Speaker 1: forget to talk about why it's important soft clothes, drawer glides,
Speaker 1: and door hinges, why they actually they're not just a luxury,
Speaker 1: but they actually preserve the life of the cabinet as well.
Speaker 1: But what was I going to say? Now I've doubled
Speaker 1: over myself twice. Oh oh, where to start? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you've got client come ins. I want to design my
Speaker 1: whole kitchen around an automatic trash can. Is that weird?
Speaker 1: Is that wrong? Of course it's not. It's you. It's
Speaker 1: what you need. So when a client asked me, how
Speaker 1: where do we start in the kitchen, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you like? And I have some
Speaker 1: clients who are like, all I know about my kitchen
Speaker 1: is I want this kind of floor, all right, Then
Speaker 1: that's where we start. Or all I know about my
Speaker 1: kitchen is I want this kind of countertop, all right?
Speaker 1: Or all I know about my kitchen is I want
Speaker 1: this one particular kind of cabinet functionality. Then that's where
Speaker 1: we start, and then we can just build. It's a circle.
Speaker 1: The thing, the whole process is circular. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter where you land on the circle to start, because
Speaker 1: we're we'll end up covering the whole sphere. It's an experience,
Speaker 1: it is. It really is a journey. It's a beautiful journey.
Speaker 1: So if you're taking anything away from today's show, anything
Speaker 1: at all, please, I hope it's this that a new
Speaker 1: kitchen does not have to be a stressful, intimidating thing,
Speaker 1: not if you're working.
Speaker 5: With the right people.
Speaker 1: All right, More with my special in studio guest John
Speaker 1: Cordero from the Kitchen Store. When we return, you're listening
Speaker 1: to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty Dean Sharp Thow's whisper Welcome Home. I am
Speaker 1: sitting here just having a blast with one of my
Speaker 1: favorite favorite industry professionals, John Cordero from the Kitchen Store,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite places in all of Southern California
Speaker 1: when it comes to this business. I have been sending
Speaker 1: people clients to and through the Kitchen Store for boy,
Speaker 1: I lost track, lost track. I was thrilled when I
Speaker 1: came and started doing radio at KFI and I heard
Speaker 1: there was a chance. Somebody said, have you ever heard
Speaker 1: of the Kitchen Store they're thinking about I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me. That's awesome because professionally, I have utilized
Speaker 1: you guys for so long. I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: remember how long. You know when Ken started it all
Speaker 1: before I was born. So you know that's.
Speaker 3: We should have a promotion for your for your clients.
Speaker 3: So when they come into the kitchen store and they
Speaker 3: mention you and they purchase a kitchen from us, I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna have something for.
Speaker 1: Them all right now. They don't want that, they don't
Speaker 1: want that. They don't want that, they don't want they
Speaker 1: don't want any special deals or favors on No one
Speaker 1: has ever asked us for that. No, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's do that immediately. Yeah, all right, all right, what
Speaker 1: did I say we were going to talk about now?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: So we talked about your like when somebody comes into
Speaker 1: the store. You know, we just finished talking about that.
Speaker 1: I want to touch on this soft clothes, you know,
Speaker 1: because you and I were talking during the break about
Speaker 1: you're asking me about design and how there are certain
Speaker 1: aspects of design that have nothing to do with luxury,
Speaker 1: custom design and luxury, even though I would say in theory,
Speaker 1: a custom designed home is the ultimate luxury. Okay, because
Speaker 1: it just feels so good and fits so well. But
Speaker 1: that's not to say that it's a custom designed home
Speaker 1: has to be made out of luxurious materials, right, A
Speaker 1: custom designed home that's made out of plastic, Not that
Speaker 1: homes are, but if it was made out of plastic
Speaker 1: or paper would be a funner home to live in
Speaker 1: than a non custom designed home made out of platinum
Speaker 1: and gold. That's my thing, because to customize a home
Speaker 1: to the way that you live, and you know so
Speaker 1: there are reasons for that. When it comes to cabinetry
Speaker 1: these days, there are a lot of things about the
Speaker 1: modern kitchen cabinet that thirty years ago were all in
Speaker 1: the luxury category, right, like full extension glides and you
Speaker 1: know door glides where the whole drawer comes out and
Speaker 1: you can see the whole drawer. Thirty years ago, that
Speaker 1: was a luxury item that the people in the big
Speaker 1: house on the hill got, but the regular homeowner, sorry, buddy,
Speaker 1: that's going to cost you. Soft closed, soft closed drawer
Speaker 1: glides and soft closed door hinges used to be considered
Speaker 1: a luxuried eye. And I think probably a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are listening right now still think, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a luxury thing, but it's not really And first of all,
Speaker 1: it's kind of standard these days. If when I ever,
Speaker 1: when I when I find a cabinet that has a
Speaker 1: hidden hinge that isn't soft, I'm like, what's wrong with
Speaker 1: these people? Who's trying to rip you off? But there's
Speaker 1: another reason for them too. It goes beyond the luxury.
Speaker 1: There's a practicality to it. Explain that.
Speaker 3: So when you're upset, your wife doesn't realize slamming the door,
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. The main functionality is just it's just the
Speaker 3: soft closes just so it protects the life of your cabinets.
Speaker 3: It gives you that soft close. The drawer will last longer.
Speaker 3: These slides, these hardware that are coming out of different
Speaker 3: companies are so much better. Drawer boxes went from only
Speaker 3: being able to hold a little amount of weight.
Speaker 5: Now they're rated for like almost one hundred pounds. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: Who puts one hundred pounds and stuff in their drawers
Speaker 5: for your kitchen? Right?
Speaker 3: So the slides, the hinges, they're made to last, and
Speaker 3: the soft closing just gives you that extra luxury item
Speaker 3: that you're not really paying for it because it's a
Speaker 3: standard now.
Speaker 1: But so it's important for people to know it's not
Speaker 1: just the noise that you're gonna make. Okay, it's not.
Speaker 1: The goal is not to have a whisper quiet kitchen.
Speaker 1: That's not the point, because you're making enough noise everything
Speaker 1: else in the kitchen. But a cabinet door, right, maybe
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, you know, maybe it's picture frame built,
Speaker 1: maybe it's mortise and tendin built. But the frame of
Speaker 1: that door, if it's a traditional door, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's got glued joints and all of the anytime a
Speaker 1: cabinet door gets shocked slammed, okay, it starts you could
Speaker 1: slowly start breaking down the door. And drawers. Drawer faces
Speaker 1: are not a single piece connected to the box behind them.
Speaker 1: They're they're bolted or screwed on to that box. And
Speaker 1: so when you slam a drawer shut, the drawer face
Speaker 1: hits the cabinet face and the door the drawer box
Speaker 1: beyond it wants to keep going right, and so it
Speaker 1: starts loosening up. And the next thing you know, you
Speaker 1: got you know, your your drawer face is crooked and
Speaker 1: uh and a door is sagging because the frame is
Speaker 1: breaking down all all of that kind of stuff gets
Speaker 1: preserved when regardless of how fast you close the drawer,
Speaker 1: that last inch is just a nice easy ah put
Speaker 1: on the brakes and it glides in. So the lack
Speaker 1: of impact of a force impact is actually extending the
Speaker 1: life of your cabinets, yep, preserving the light. So it's
Speaker 1: so it shouldn't be seen as a lug. I don't
Speaker 1: see soft closed hinges as a luxury item anymore than
Speaker 1: I see shock absorbers on a car as a luxury item.
Speaker 1: Oh your car has shocks, mind doesn't.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Once it was, I mean once, I suppose, and that
Speaker 1: somebody could call in. Tell me at what point in
Speaker 1: the history of automobiles did shock absorbers become like, oh,
Speaker 1: you've got a ritzy car. My my, my axle is
Speaker 1: built straight to my bud to the body of the car.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there was a time when it was a
Speaker 1: I guess technically a fancy thing. Now it's just smart.
Speaker 1: It's just smart. And drawer glides underneath the drawer as
Speaker 1: opposed to mount it on the sides. Okay, number one,
Speaker 1: the drawer can be full width. Number two. You know,
Speaker 1: if you mount a drawer glide on the side of
Speaker 1: a drawer. Well, gravity, right, it's always working against the screws, right,
Speaker 1: the drawer wants to fall through. But if the glides
Speaker 1: are on the bottom, they're holding um up from the
Speaker 1: bottom hundred pound rating. Yep, that's some serious stuff. You
Speaker 1: don't have to see them anymore. Yeah, you don't have
Speaker 1: to see them. And they're also surprisingly adjustable. People don't
Speaker 1: realize that even drawer glides are adjustable these days. They
Speaker 1: can adjust up and down and you know, all sorts
Speaker 1: of stuff. All right, when we return, more from John
Speaker 1: Kurdero of the Kitchen Store. You're listening to Dean Sharp,
Speaker 1: the House Whisper on KFI. This has been Home with
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