WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:06.000 It's night with Dan Ray on WAZ Boston's radio. 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.359 We're going right right back to the calls. 3 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.679 By the way, the Globe editorial is entitled Tougher action 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:19.800 is needed on teacher strikes, and the Globe mentions this 5 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.760 idea the fact that state law forbids such strikes means 6 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.679 that judges have considerable leverage in ending these work stoppages. 7 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:30.839 We're talking about the strikes that teacher strikes up in Gloucester, 8 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.679 Beverly and Marblehead, which will be going into the eighth 9 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.119 or ninth day tomorrow. In the Beverly strike, the come 10 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.640 Wealth Employment Relations for the state agency charge with moving 11 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:44.640 to end such strikes, is considering two ideas. One is 12 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.159 the rule that the Beverly School Committee has no obligation 13 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.159 to bargain with the union while their employees are out 14 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.399 on a legal strike. A second is asked is to 15 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:56.840 ask Essex Superior Court Judge Jennis Howe to order the 16 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.799 parties into binding arbitration to decide a new contract. That's 17 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.239 kind of like what my suggestion was. Maybe that No, 18 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.200 those are two good ideas from the Globe. I got 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.200 to give them credit. Not often are we aligned together. 20 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:13.400 The Globe and myself on editorial policy. But I think 21 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.200 this is one that cries out for it. So let's 22 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.280 get back to the call. See what people think. Love 23 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:20.519 to hear from anyone who would like to call in 24 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:24.040 from Marblehead, Gloucester or Beverly. Those towns have been very 25 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:27.079 quiet during these conversations, and I hope that no one 26 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:31.200 should feel intimidated. Mario in Wilmington, Mario, you were next 27 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:39.200 on Nightside. Welcome, sir. Well, if Mario isn't there, Rob, 28 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.799 let's put Mario on hold and we'lcome back to Mario. 29 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.719 That's only going to get everybody else on a little 30 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:46.159 bit more quickly. Let me go to tell you and 31 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.040 and over tell you welcome to Nightside. 32 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.799 How are you Hi? 33 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:50.400 Can you hear me? 34 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.040 I can do fine, Thanks very much for calling in. 35 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:54.000 Tell you go right ahead. 36 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:57.760 Hi, Yeah, thank you for having me. I'm currently a 37 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.599 teacher in Massachusetts, and a young one. I've been teaching 38 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:03.480 for about six years, so I think I offer a 39 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.280 bit of a different perspective knowing that I have about 40 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.840 twenty to thirty years left, and I'm I see that 41 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:11.919 I'm not going to be able to afford a house 42 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:16.280 and possibly kids at the rate we're going. Yeah, and 43 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.879 I think that I don't know what the solution is 44 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.599 in terms of bargaining, and I definitely hear the issues 45 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.159 that families are having on that. But and I'm hearing 46 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.560 people call into your show, and it's definitely. 47 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:41.719 Like, Talia, Did I lose Talia there? Yeah, put her 48 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:45.000 on hold. We'll come back to tal you. I want 49 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.719 her to finish your thoughts. Sometimes people inadvertently hit a 50 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.800 mute button, so we'll get Tala back. 51 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:52.759 Here. Is she there? 52 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:53.000 Now? 53 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:53.919 Hi? 54 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:55.400 I am here, Talia. 55 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:56.960 We lost you there for a second. I don't know 56 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.159 if you inevertly hit a mute button, but I'm glad 57 00:02:59.199 --> 00:02:59.520 you're back. 58 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:00.840 Correct I did hit something? 59 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.879 Sorry, no problem, go ahead. 60 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.319 Well, I'm openly saying that I don't have a solution, 61 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.960 but it's definitely clear to me from hearing the public 62 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.000 call in on your show that people are making quite 63 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.520 a miseducated statement before really forming an opinion. 64 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.560 Okay, well, let's help us out. What what do they 65 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.919 need to know before? Do you want to tell me 66 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.919 what town you're you're teaching in or no, I'm. 67 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.039 Just in the greater Boston area. 68 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.199 Okay, Well, the only reason I say the only reason 69 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.840 I said that is I have the list of from 70 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:37.840 the Department of Education of the the average salaries in 71 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:42.120 different districts, and you know, some of them are as 72 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.759 high as over one hundred thousand dollars. Right for example, 73 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.039 Let's see, I'm just grabbing a couple here real quickly. 74 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.319 Bedford is one hundred and two thousand dollars. I'm just 75 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:58.280 going to go alphabetically here, Brockton is one hundred and 76 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:03.879 two thousand dollars. Carlisle is one hundred and ten thousand dollars. 77 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:06.319 Now though that's the higher end of the scale. 78 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:08.680 Well, here's one. 79 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.120 Let's see, Conquered Carlisle is one hundred and Conquered is 80 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.479 one hundred and eight, and Conquered Carlisle is one hundred 81 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.519 and seventeen thousand dollars. Again, these are the average. Does 82 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.759 I mean every teacher makes that? It's the average? 83 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:21.560 DOVA? 84 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:28.959 Surevone is one hundred and four Western Massachusetts. Did what 85 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:32.079 I have here? No, let me see, I'm trying to 86 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.720 just spot the hundreds, just to just to say that 87 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.120 there are some teachers who seemingly are doing the six figure. 88 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:42.160 Salaries absolutely, And then I assume you're. 89 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.439 Not making anywhere anywhere near that near that. 90 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:48.600 Right, Yeah, not yet, And the Boston Globe does say, 91 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:50.959 right now, you need over two hundred thousand dollars in 92 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.360 an ideally combined joint income to afford a home. So 93 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.240 unless the teacher has a stalis or whatever, that's not 94 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.879 happening for them. But the same that I was pointing 95 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.399 to before were those people saying that they're they should 96 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.319 throw teachers in jail and that they're they're vacationing in 97 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.759 Europe all summer. I just think that's really this important. 98 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.480 Teachers do a lot of work over the summer. They 99 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.759 have curriculum committees where they're working during the summer in 100 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.439 the free time that they have hopefully paid on a 101 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.319 stipend for the curriculum for the students for the whole year. 102 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.680 They're often doing summer school with kids or working their 103 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.920 second or third jobs. So I feel a lot of 104 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.480 anger from the public, and I'm not sure why that 105 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:33.120 is happening. 106 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:34.920 Okay, well, let me let me try to tell you 107 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.000 what why. I think people are a little frustrated. I 108 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.279 don't want to characterize it as anger, but frustration. You're 109 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.399 in your sixth year of teaching. And I'm sure when 110 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:50.040 you started your career six years ago you knew that 111 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:52.920 teachers salaries were not going to be equivalent to Major 112 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:00.480 League baseball players, right, Okay, so after six years, are 113 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.959 you making seventy thousand dollars? 114 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:02.879 I'm guessing. 115 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.199 Yeah, I'm in the seventies, in. 116 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.279 The seventy high seventies. Ah, man, it's okay, So we'll say. 117 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.920 Seventy five thousand dollars just to keep it simple. 118 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:13.399 Okay. 119 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:20.360 It's tough to buy a home anywhere close to Greater 120 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:25.199 Boston or in Greater Boston with that salary, would you right? 121 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.600 And it would all be possible for me to get 122 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.639 to work in the near future if I were to 123 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.439 purchase home, which I obviously can't. 124 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:35.639 Yeah, but yeah, I just said. 125 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:39.199 You'd have to purchase somewhere in central Massachusetts. I get that. 126 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:41.120 I totally I totally get that. Okay. 127 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.240 Yeah, And I'm sorry to interrupt you. I heard a 128 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.040 few times that people were suggesting firing teachers, and I 129 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.160 don't think they know that you need to go to 130 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.720 school for six years to be a teacher in Massachusetts, 131 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:56.879 and that it is highly skilled and more than by babysitting, 132 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.199 and we wouldn't have people to replace them, and that's 133 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.879 why that hasn't been solution yet. 134 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.560 So let me ask you this as a teacher of 135 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.720 six years, and again you didn't. You told me a 136 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.480 greater Boston community, which is fine, don't have to identify 137 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.040 which one. What do you think would be the fair 138 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:16.439 salary that you should earn as a teacher with six years. 139 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:23.680 Experience in a greater Boston area? 140 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:24.480 Yeah? 141 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.240 Yeah, I mean again, I don't want you to tell 142 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.839 me what town you teach in, but everybody knows greater 143 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.040 Boston means somewhere inside of one twenty eight. What do 144 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.920 you think you should be earning after six years? You 145 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.079 told me you make seventy five. What do you think 146 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:41.959 you should be earning? 147 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.360 Well, I would say at this point about ten to 148 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.560 twenty more so that I can at least save some money, 149 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:50.600 because that's not happening right now, and I understand that 150 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:52.759 I'm younger in my career and that it would go up. 151 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:53.439 No. 152 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:58.639 Right, So therefore, you would like to think that you 153 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.720 could be making eighty five to ninety five thousand dollars 154 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:02.959 as a teacher, correct? 155 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.519 Yeah, And I will admit that I know that one 156 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.199 day I am going to be fine, And I don't 157 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.959 think that the main negotiation point for teachers is salary. 158 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.120 There's a lot of other things to benefit the students 159 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.759 that teachers are negotiating that the public does not understand. 160 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:18.439 Would you agree with me that. 161 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.519 The main problem in any of these negotiations it's always. 162 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:23.959 Going to be salary. 163 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.160 No, I don't because that's not. 164 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:34.879 Really the namely one negotiation with which you're familiar in 165 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:36.759 which salary was not. 166 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.480 The main and the final sticking point. 167 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:48.759 Class sizes services for students special education teachers. We need 168 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.039 more of them so that services can be delivered because 169 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:55.840 I don't think parents on know that their children aren't 170 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.399 getting their services because there are too many hours of 171 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.080 services that need to be given in the way and 172 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.279 they just don't have the staff to do it. 173 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:08.120 So, how many of the students in your class need 174 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:09.480 special education? 175 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.360 It depends on the class, but it could be up 176 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:18.600 to like attend students in a twenty five student class. 177 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:23.519 So forty sure? Really? 178 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.600 Okay, Again, I'm not experienced in that, and I don't 179 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:31.159 know how they characterize people as needing special education. So 180 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.320 where do you think a teacher should max out. Let's 181 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.799 assume that you were not in your sixth year. Let's 182 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.919 assume that you were in your twenty sixth year, and 183 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:42.799 you must have some colleagues who have been there for 184 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.440 twenty six years. How much should those colleagues be making 185 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.000 after twenty six years. 186 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:47.360 In your opinion? 187 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.279 Well, I can't say, but I know that teacher salaries 188 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.960 and messages that's usually max out on your fifteenth year. 189 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.919 And you're not going to get a raise unless. 190 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.559 That's fine, Then tell me on the fifteen what will 191 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.080 your salary max out at after fifteen years? 192 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:04.320 That's nine years from now. 193 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:07.480 I think in my district currently for twenty twenty four 194 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.399 it's around one hundred and fifteen thousand. 195 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.240 One hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. Okay, So fifteen years 196 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:19.320 from now, you'll be in your late thirties, right right, 197 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.440 and you'll be making one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars 198 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:23.320 and maybe more. 199 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:25.960 You know. 200 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.240 That is being paid for in large part, as I'm 201 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.360 sure you know, by the homeowners the residents of the 202 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:43.480 community in which you teach, right, Okay, So the school 203 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.120 committee has to balance the interest of the teachers and 204 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.879 the quality of the schools that they want with how 205 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.759 much they can get in property taxes in some cases 206 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:59.639 from people who have retired and are living on social security. 207 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:03.000 That's the balance the School Committee has to strike, and 208 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.480 it's a tough balance. I mean, I'm sure that in 209 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.879 a perfect world the School Committee would give every teacher 210 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.240 two hundred thousand dollars. 211 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:14.240 But yeah, I agree, and I think it's important to 212 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.840 take a look at a look at history and civil 213 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:21.200 disobedience and like, sometimes the word illegal isn't that bad, 214 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:25.000 Like we used to have child labor and stuff. Like 215 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.200 the striking isn't uncommon, it's not new. When I think 216 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.039 a lot of people are hearing the word illegal and 217 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:31.159 they're just directing. 218 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.039 Well, un fortunately, you've got to change that. 219 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.919 You have to change the statue because in Massachusetts it's 220 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:40.480 illegal if I decide some rainy day tomorrow it's rainy, 221 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.919 and I want to park in a handicapped parking space 222 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.320 or next to a fire hydrant because that's closer to 223 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.200 the dunkin Donuts. When I want to go get my 224 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:53.519 coffee and the police officer comes over and you know, 225 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.840 tickets me, I can't say, come on, I know it's illegal, 226 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.480 but you know it's it's raining today and I want 227 00:11:59.480 --> 00:11:59.879 to get a call. 228 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.600 Yeah, I agree that you work in a profession. 229 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.080 You happen to work in a profession. Tell you in 230 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:12.879 which striking is illegal. Police officers cannot strike. Firefighters cannot strike. 231 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.279 If your house was on fire and you called the 232 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.399 fire dispatch and they said, gee, would love to come 233 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:19.080 and help you, but we got a strike going on. 234 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:21.279 Or if you called the police department and there was 235 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:25.120 some weirdo breaking in, breaking your draw down, and you 236 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.279 called nine one one of the and the police said, hey, 237 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:29.399 we're on strike. Wish we could have helped you. Wish 238 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.679 he had. You know when I wish this guy broke in. 239 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.879 You know last week we were working. We could have 240 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.399 been over there and helped you. Public employees are not 241 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:38.120 allowed to strike. 242 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:42.080 Tell you, luckily, we're not saving lives. And I'm just saying, 243 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:49.759 in your hypothetical. 244 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.799 Something very positive. Okay, you're doing something positive. You're educating 245 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.720 the next generation, your education children. No one, and and 246 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.480 I'm not being a wise guy when I say this. 247 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.159 Tell you, but was there anyone who said to you 248 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.639 when you would become a teacher? Tell you you know 249 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:06.039 you shouldn't become a teacher, you know, because you're never 250 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.600 going to make the money that nuclear scientist is going to. 251 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:10.759 You know what I'm saying. 252 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.919 I mean, you chose, you chose a noble profession, and 253 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.080 part of the downside of the noble profession, part of 254 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.159 the upside is June. You know, June, July, and August. 255 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.120 You can do a lot of things that a lot 256 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:24.360 of people can't do in June. 257 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:24.919 July and August. 258 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.240 But yeah, I mean I work all summer. Most of 259 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.720 the teachers I know do, so I don't agree with 260 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.720 that statement. I also think that, well. 261 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.200 You work a second you work a second job, I 262 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:36.679 assume to supplement your income. 263 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:37.159 Yeah. 264 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:39.120 Yes, Did you have any idea. 265 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.080 How much money teachers made when you decided to become 266 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:41.720 a teacher or no? 267 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.120 No, I mean I knew I was going to have 268 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:50.080 to work year round. 269 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.120 Okay, but you had no idea what you didn't know 270 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.519 if teachers were making twenty thousand or two hundred thousand. 271 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:57.120 No, I knew, Oh you did, And I don't think 272 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.759 any I don't think any your start starts teaching for 273 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:02.080 the money. I think all we're asking is to be 274 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.440 able to commute to our jobs. 275 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.159 But it's always to tell you the problem is. You're right, 276 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.120 you didn't start teaching for the money. But now from 277 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.799 the union perspective, it's primarily about the money and who's 278 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.120 going to pay for the money. How does the school 279 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.080 committee go back to those retired, those retired couples who 280 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.039 they're going to say, we're going to increase your real 281 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.960 estate taxes. Now your Medicare, your soci security is not 282 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.080 going up. Oh your SOI scurity is going up at 283 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.399 one point four percent because that's the rate of inflation. 284 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:34.840 But the teachers sally, you know, come on, I mean 285 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.200 this was a really good call. I hope we can 286 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:38.720 end it as well as we started it. 287 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:39.399 I thank you for that. 288 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:39.840 Yeah. 289 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.879 Absolutely, I'm not looking for anything unrealistic. I think we 290 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.840 just want to be able to live. 291 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.919 What they Here's what they should do. 292 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.000 Maybe in the town where you teach, there should be 293 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.720 some sort of a referendum in which the town says, 294 00:14:55.879 --> 00:15:00.720 we will give any teacher who's interested in u teaching 295 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.200 in this community a bonus of one hundred thousand dollars 296 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.840 so that they at least can put a down payment 297 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:08.279 on the home. That's that's something that they can do locally, 298 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.039 think outside the box. Tell you I got to run. 299 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.639 Thank you very much, first time calling my show or no? 300 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:21.159 Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed the conversation. Good night. 301 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:23.559 Let me go to Mario. Let's see if we get married. 302 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:24.960 We tried him before and we missed. 303 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:29.080 Mary. We're back. Are you back? Yes? Thank you, go ahead. 304 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:31.320 I just wanted to stay. 305 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.559 Like I said a couple of days ago when you 306 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.679 first started talking about this, the the tom managers are 307 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.799 responsible for this mess now. A union member made a 308 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:44.840 very clear point today that I was very impressed upon, 309 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.519 and I'm siding with them now, is that they're being 310 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:54.559 fined daily two because they're out on strike. Yet the 311 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.120 school committee and the town is not being held accountable 312 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.080 at this point either. So this failure has brought this 313 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.080 to this point where kids are out of school, which 314 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.600 I am very angry about. 315 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.519 And then, Mario, let. 316 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.039 Me correct you if I could. Do you know why 317 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:15.200 the teachers' union unions are being fined. 318 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.600 For being because they are illegally striking. 319 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:24.519 Right and and and therefore, what what could a judge do? 320 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:25.159 Mario? 321 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.879 Let me do this. I I'm really in a bind 322 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.399 here on a break rob. You know, we gotta do. Mario, 323 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.279 stay there, I'm going to continue this call with you. 324 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.600 We got to take a quick break. I'll be right back, Okay, 325 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.279 grather your thoughts and we'll be right back. Okay, fine, Rob, 326 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.000 sorry about that. Why don't you give me three minutes 327 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.679 here and then we kick one over. Okay, go ahead. 328 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.840 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World 329 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.799 night Side Studios on WITBZ News Radio. 330 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.120 Let's get back to Mario Merrow. Thank you very much 331 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:56.919 for allowing us to get those commercials in. 332 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:58.519 Go right ahead. 333 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.159 Yeah, So I blamed the Tom managers and at this 334 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.880 point this shouldn't have happened. They should have had this 335 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.200 budget corrected at that time. But they're making themselves look 336 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:15.039 good and having a low budget. But they have ignored 337 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.400 the fact that they have an open budget. And so 338 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:19.599 this is where we are with this. 339 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:21.759 Where did they raise where did they raise the money 340 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.480 from to pay the teacher's salaries? 341 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:28.599 Mario, Okay, you'll seem to ignore other things like firefighters 342 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:33.319 and police. They're spending exorbitate money on fire trucks that 343 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.039 they could buy cheaply, but they're not police departments the 344 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.160 same way they're buying cars. Every four years when they should. 345 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:43.519 Your point where. 346 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:46.599 Let me make sure. Let me make sure I stand 347 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.440 your point. And I'm a little tight on time here. 348 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.680 If you had been ready at ten ten ten, we 349 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:53.680 would have maybe been able to go a little longer. 350 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.640 So what you're saying is it's up to the city 351 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:03.839 and town to take money that they're spending overspending on 352 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.200 police and fire and divert that money to the teachers' unions, 353 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.160 to the teacher contracts. I think that's. 354 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.319 What I'm saying. What I'm saying is if you're at 355 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:16.519 a point where you can't increase the tax on the taxpayers, 356 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.799 there are areas where you can cut Police departments buy 357 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.920 new cars every four years. That's unnecessary. Fire trucks are 358 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.599 costing three hundred thousand dollars. They can be bought for 359 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.319 as little as a buck fifty. They don't have the 360 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.720 glamorous extras that come with these trucks with flashing lights, 361 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.039 et cetera. There is ways to cut the costs, okay, 362 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:43.400 but they don't want to look that way. Now, you 363 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:44.359 live in Wilmington. 364 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.279 You live in. 365 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.799 Wilmington, right, eighteen dollars an hour, go ahead, you live 366 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:50.599 in Wilmington. 367 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.480 Correct, do they just do a better job in Wilmington 368 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:01.200 of allocating resources between the fire, the police and the teachers. 369 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.240 It is a problem here also, is what I'm saying. 370 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.119 It seems that's my question? 371 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:08.839 Then is this. 372 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.240 No you've told me you've identified Mario. I'd like to 373 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.440 have a conversation with you, Mario, as opposed to a speech. 374 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.039 I've allowed you to make your points, which you know 375 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.200 may or may not be true. And the reason I 376 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.000 asked you about Wilmington is if this is a I 377 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.920 didn't know if you had done a study on Beverly, 378 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.839 Marblehead and Gloucester, or if you think this is a 379 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.240 problem that is in most communities, including your community. 380 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:42.799 And you said yes, I aint across that the teachers 381 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:46.759 left at the bottom line, and so it should be equal. 382 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:48.559 So are the teachers? 383 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.240 Are the teachers being left at the bottom line in 384 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:52.519 the You know. 385 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:53.720 What, Mario? That's it. 386 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.920 Good night, Mario, have a have a nice conversation with yourself. 387 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:02.039 Good night boy. He waited around a long time for that. Swim. 388 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.119 My question to Mario was going to be, you live 389 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:09.160 in Wilmington, Mario, You've identified a problem in Wilmington. What 390 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.200 have you done about it. Are you running for school committee? 391 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.000 Are you running for selectmen in Wilmington? I will bet 392 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.000 you that Mario was going to say no. In the meantime, 393 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.680 as Mario swims away and hopefully can swim well, we 394 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.480 will continue. Look, all he want is a conversation. Okay, 395 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.400 It's as simple as that. If you want to call 396 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:31.079 up and just scream at me, call someone else. I'd 397 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:35.000 like a conversation. I thought my conversation with Talia, we 398 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.920 went ten minutes with Tellia. There's a little bit of 399 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.279 repetition there, but that's okay. She was genuine, She was passionate. 400 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.240 Mario was passionate, but like he's an expert on the 401 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:49.839