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son up a bitch. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome

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back to the Aga Thought review series for the final time.

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I'd assume maybe yes, no, who knows, But for now

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we're gonna say the final time, reviewing episodes eight and

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nine as what I'm gonna say the series finale. I'm

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the clown Prince of Reality Tress now, and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I'm the Down Down, Down Down kirkle Patzer.

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Speaker 3: I'm the mind power tator Field.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this before you got in the room, Kirklain,

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What do you have stuck in your head more right now?

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The Witch's Road or the uh you know, just just

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a little of this action, you know. Yeah, that's it.

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I'm not gonna get I don't want to get caught from.

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Speaker 2: Superman neither neither long leg song for sure. And I've

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been watching a bunch of Chapel Roone videos, so Chaperon's

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in my head right now.

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Speaker 1: Santana new album coming out.

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Speaker 2: Please give me another tour. I was just like going off, Yeah,

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I need to give that tour.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be funny. Watcher just drop this next album

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and completely fucking sucks and kills all the momentum she has.

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It's just oh flash of the pan, that was it?

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Remember that summer we all like Chilperone and like spoken

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word now only yeah, like I said as a joke,

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but it happens all the time where I was the

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next hot person and then but I hope Chaperone, you know,

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great uls of strength, Yes, lots of great struff shruck.

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then add some lyrics on there and just hates Jane Gunn,

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check out on Patreon right now. Lots of good things

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right there. But the two exclusive retros. It's funny because

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we said they were gonna be for next year, but

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some are still releasing monthly right now, because if we

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were doing it next year, they would not be out

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one's gonna get delayed. And then it's like, oh, we

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could have held it. But either way, it's a year

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in the sense of a year, starting from when we

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exciting reviews coming on the next goal weeks. We're gon

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having the substance and I'm not sure I got a

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look at the discord. Did Kirk Will leave me hanging?

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something today, but I think he just left me hanging.

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so we very much appreciate that. But here we are

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to talk about Agatha. We'll talk about the extual life

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the Witch's road. Uh. And this is the first time

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we're all three together since like I do know episode

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give us your mini thoughts last week because I will

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of embracing, you know, and not being just that kind

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know what shot Taylor trying and remind me. I know

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Poe's character was doing. But yeah, you're ready for Young

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Scar and Billy were the young Avengers, like you gotta

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the college try, then I think that you'll be pleasantly

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surprised it can be college try. It sounds you never

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of late. So that's a nice, you know, just relief,

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a side character years upon years later. It's just like,

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happen was like a echo where echo for me I

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did not enjoy. So I was like, oh, yeah, here's

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a sign of the stuff that they really pushed out

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to get on to Disney pluses to have content. We're

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gonna have a bunch of stuff that's you know, poorly written,

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have a lot of issues, you know, might have some

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bright spots, but overall a big downer. But yeah, I'm

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surprised I'm saying this. I was looking at my MSU

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ranking and also I'll wait till we do our next

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official ranking episode. We do one at the end of

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each phase. I'm not sure even when the fucking phase

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five ends, I don't know what they have anymore there.

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I'd have to look. I don't think there's an endpoint.

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But yeah, I think I can comptantly say that this

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show's probably in the top twenty five. Now. I know

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that probably sounds super like, oh, twenty five, but it's

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like the MSU has like fifty plus projects now, you know.

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Man are like Winter Soldier and the First Thor and

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First Incredible. There's tons that are always like, oh, what's better?

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What's not so? But it's in like a class that

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I really really enjoy And for me, it definitely was

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this finale because I came in being like, Okay, we

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got the review tonight where I am I on the show.

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I'm like, I'm probably like a seven, and I think

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it's gonna stay at seven. I think this at least

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went up. Uh. I won't reveal how many points, but

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it went up a few points. Digress not a perfect show,

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of course, There's still some issues I still wish there

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was some maybe a bit more scariness stuff. I think

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they did deliver the back half, and I wish, as

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we talked about before, some of those trials were kind

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of kind of lame in my opinion. Now looking back,

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it's like, Okay, I still wish we did it a

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little bit better. But I think we talked about the

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MCU or just in general Disney plus so they got

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a finale problem that's not happening here. If you were

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to rank the finales alone, I could make an argument

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this is the I don't know, like excluding low Ki

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because Loki, I think it's easily one and two. I

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don't know, it's tough, like you have other ones in there,

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like a Sheahulk that I really enjoyed. I know some

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people are iffy on, But other than that, I think

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there's maybe a couple other have to think. But it's

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it's top three, maybe top two, I don't know. I

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think it did a fantastic job of landing the plane

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successfully and delivering twist. Like I feel like there's so

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few times in these comic book projects that we get surprised.

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I'm sure there's somebody that's gonna like, oh, I knew

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this was happening the entire time, and if you did

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great for me. I din so I was like, I

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won't say it was floored because I was like, oh

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my god, but I was like impressed of like, man,

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this is really smart and it's one of those type

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of twists that which is the best type you can have.

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It made me want to rewatch the show. I don't

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know if I need to pop in right away, but

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I'm like, man, this is actually want to one of

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the stir from the beginning because there's so many different

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perspectives where I'm like, this is not the route I

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thought was gonna go. And I'm trying to say this

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in the most non spoiler way, but we were just

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talking about this. We talked about this all the time,

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right with just Star Wars, Villains, et cetera. We talk

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about this with Marble, and I was just talking about

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this with Emily the other day because we watch hocus

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Pocus and then hocus Pocus Too. I'm not sure if

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you guys seen hocus Pocus Too? Have you seen that?

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Have you seen the first one? Curriculum?

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Speaker 2: Probably I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, Okay, irrelevant for Kirkland, but Anyways, my complaint that

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happened with a lot of stuff is like in hocus

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Speaker 1: Like, well, they're like not that bad, and like there

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was some reason why they did some bad things. It's like, like,

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why do you gotta do that? And I thought for sure,

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where he started off as a villain. They showed some

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origin stuff, they showed some turning points, and I believed

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his turn at the end. But I thought with this

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show having maybe a little less time, I'm not sure

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I'd have to look at the run time at all.

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I just thought for sure with a couple of the

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Red Herrings they were leading, it's like okay or sorry

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that they were leaving. We're gonna get the Agatha's redeemed

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and all this stuff in the past you didn't understand yet.

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why don't you tell the truth and she goes because

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it's worse. I'm like, all right, yeah, I'm sure it's

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gonna be worse, right because I think back to WandaVision,

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where to me, WandaVision is a very lackluster finale, that

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line Monica hits her with, right, Oh, they never know

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what you gave up for them. These thousands of people

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that were brainwashing taken over by Wanda, They're never gonna

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know what you gave up for them, Like what fucking

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kids that she made up? Like these are real people's lives.

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So that's where it's like Disney and you know, Marvel

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Disney specifically always has to do that, and I applaud them.

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stuck to their guns, like Agatha, like she's a bad person,

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you know, and there's a lot of bad things that happen,

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and that's why I love they did not backpedal and

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give us like the oh yeah no, she's really kind hearted,

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just a lot of misunfortunate things. There's an entire block

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of this show where it's like, holy fuck, they're doing

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this and like just like irredeemable things. And that's why

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I love where they gave us the show. I think

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was a great job of being in the gray and

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that's what I love that. That's my favorite type of content,

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My fair show all times, like Breaking Bad Dexter's another

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one there where it's like you have a character and

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I don't watch them because as Walter White a good

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guy or bad guy, he's an interesting guy. And that's

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where I think they've made Agatha's stock. She was already

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interesting because Catherine Haunt again hits home Run after home

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Run and these two episodes. But now I'm like, man,

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I would I would take an egg of the season

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two if they didn't. Now, I would be excited if

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they were to announce that. Right With Loki, it's like,

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of course I love Hitlson and Loki. Yeah, but there's

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some shows where it's like, okay, like this, do I

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need something now? If they were to say hey, this

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or Billy, I would be fully in where I thought

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we started, not that. So this gives me a little

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more hope for Ironheart or even wonder Man of like, Okay,

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stuff in this era, maybe not. Everything's gonna be complete

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shit same thing hopefully with Cap and Thunderbolts and everything. Hopefully,

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even if it's fixing stuff in post we're on a

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different road. And of course there's gonna be projects that

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aren't good, right. I'm not saying it has to be

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perfect in ten and ten stuff, but even this, this

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was on a ten out of ten project. But I

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was very happy with it, and I'm surprised by how

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strong these last two episodes are. I was kind of floored,

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and I will say, yeah, it's definitely one of the

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best Disney Plus finales. I was very impressed. So anything

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else non spoilers before we go past the road? All right,

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let's take our first ad break and then we will

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be right back. And we are back. So before we

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get more into it, I just want to tell you

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because this is the last cast. There will be a

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schedule cast coming out, but Extra Life is this weekend. Saturday,

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November second, nine am PST is our start time. We

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will be staying up for twenty four hours straight. Come

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watch us struggle. You're righty Kirkland's Winston. Are you not

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ready for that? Is your body not ready?

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Speaker 2: I will be ready, but I am not right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got guana pills. If anyone ever needs a.

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Speaker 2: Pop them, We'll be all ready popping pills.

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Speaker 1: There's a slew events. I can't pull it because the

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box is too far. My new shaver has come in today,

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as you see the logs flowing. Please everybody, were at

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least we have any goals. But for my goal, we're

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nine hundred dollars. Has got some people donate already, thank

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you very much. We're nine hundred dollars away from getting

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this cut off because like, look at that length, it

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is ready.

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Speaker 2: Like corn rows or something.

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Speaker 1: No, because I'm gonna cuz here here's the thing. Another addendum.

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If we hit the thoul and I'm doing wings for

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kids BC, so it has to be a certain way.

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So that's why I'm not going to corn That's the

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thing is one, I will shave my hair live on air,

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but before we do that, I will cut it, and

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then it's going to become a wag. So not only

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would you be donating towards a good talk, cause all

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the money is going towards BC Childn's hospital. You begin again,

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some kids a wig maybe two because they said ten inches,

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but I feel like I got more than ten. It's

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definitely ten, but I'm wondering if I got We'll measure

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it before we cut it, so hopefully get us to that.

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Speaker 3: How far does the hair?

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Speaker 1: What happened you guys stand still?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought Taylor cut out for a second,

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just the way that you slammed on the brakes there.

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You can do that vocally.

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Speaker 3: How far does your hair go down your neck? Because

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like my hair, like it goes all the way down,

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like it keeps growing connects to the ass there like

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a like a giraft's mane. Yeah, like.

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Speaker 2: Picture like a mohawk on your spine.

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Speaker 3: You got a little rat sprout there, rat's tail there? Yeah,

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do you donate that too? Does the rat still get donated?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that'll be gone. I don't maybe. I

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think we just pony it and then we cut and

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everything like that. Emily will personally cut it. But yes,

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all the donations are tax deductible. There's other incentives, like

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Taylor's gonna do some weird stuff with his beards, some

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mun chops. I really want to get on the hull coke.

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And that's why I really want to see him with that. Uh.

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If we hit a certain a certain chop, a certain incentive,

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we're gonna be wearing X Men outfits for a couple hours.

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We'll sing Higher by Creed. Lots of good stuff going

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on and lots of events. Uh, the trivia battle, we're

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announcing names all week. We're doing sure three layer charades,

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We're doing a Marvel Arcade Hour, We're doing the Fight

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Club Tournament. There's gonna be chess, there's gonna be Janga,

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there's gonna be Raidar, Jack in the not Jack in

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the Box, Jack box h Head down the link below

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to donate and then also see all the events, and

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then finally you can buy the X Men Animated Geek

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first nine no, the X Men ninety seven Animated Geek first,

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the very long titled shirt, but all the proceeds of

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that also go towards the BC Child's Hospital. That Chuir

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is available till November fourth and then it has gone forever,

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so we'd appreciate it. And if you can't donate, we

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understand times are tough. If you can even just you know,

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five bucks, ten bucks, everything. If we don't hit all

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our goals, that's fine. All the money still goes towards

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the kids and families and needs. But if you can't,

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just come over like the video, share the video because

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sometimes share the link. Because we say this every year,

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there's people that we don't know that donate, and we're

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very grateful for that. So thank you very much to everybody,

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because we will thank you again eventually, but thank you everyone,

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that tunes in this weekend and yeah, come join us,

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especially the wee hours. We'll need some help. So where

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we laughing at Taylor?

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Speaker 3: I was just when you said, like no matter what,

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like all the proceeds still go to the hospitals. Just thinking, man,

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I wonder if there's some group out there it's like, yeah,

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if we don't hit our goal, we just keep the money.

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We don't donate it.

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Speaker 2: If we don't hit our goal.

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Speaker 1: Yet maybe some peel luckily extra light. The whole organization

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very smart that the money goes to them and then

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it goes to that donate the charity right away. So

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that's the good thing. So yes, it's and again it

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is tax deductible so you can rate off everything like that.

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It's a good cause. So you know, a couple bucks,

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we'd thank you very much. So let's talk about Agatha

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serious finaleon now. I don't I feel like we don't

470
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,039
do this unless one has like a really strong starting point,

471
00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,319
which I have one. I might need to go on

472
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,920
a order because I feel like there's certain things that

473
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,839
get revealed. But I before we get to the strong

474
00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:26,680
starting point, Taylor, was the point where you were hyped

475
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,279
on billy Is when he came down fully costumed.

476
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: Oh that costume costumes. There's costumes that look like cause

477
00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:37,880
play like and it's very worrisome. But man, no, his

478
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,960
costume was like.

479
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: I saw that, and when you said, Ah'm hyped on billion,

480
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,799
I'm like, oh, I bet it was that one because

481
00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:45,039
it was a good hero shot. He was coming down

482
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,440
and the electricity powers had the crown everything.

483
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: Don't take it all, and it just fucking blasting.

484
00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:51,799
Speaker 2: He reminded me a little bit of the guy from

485
00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:53,799
Spike Kids three D when he like shows up, look

486
00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,519
at all badass and he's got like unlimited power. Yeah,

487
00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:00,000
don't take it all, and then he's all shriveled up,

488
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,960
but like a prune. Like instantly after Yeah.

489
00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:05,039
Speaker 1: The kids were worried like, oh she They're like, she

490
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,640
has to stop, she has to stop when she started

491
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,200
laughing and getting all like maniacal like that for free. Yeah,

492
00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:15,559
and that The only thing I will say is because

493
00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:17,160
maybe we'll be all over, but I will get us

494
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,960
on track, I still think. And who knows what's gonna

495
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,319
happen with Agatha down the line right because MC a

496
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,240
lot of stuff's going on. But when she gets her

497
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:28,640
powers back and they do the big reveal and it's

498
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,319
her fucking like witch out for for Wantavision. I'm like,

499
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,599
this thing's still not good. It still looks like that

500
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,640
costume still looks like a Disney channeled like Descendant's nineties villain.

501
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,559
I wish they upgraded some way. I'll say, like the

502
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,680
costume she gets later on is even better than the

503
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,640
one she got here, so it's still as funny this

504
00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:51,039
big moment. I was like, oh yeah, like I get it,

505
00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:53,559
that's your outfit. But it still just looks It's just

506
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,680
there's a lot of layers to it, and it's just

507
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,119
there's just something about it just does not look cool,

508
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,599
especially when you got Billy over there, he's rocking his

509
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,480
cool stuff. He's kind of got like a shoulder kaped

510
00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:05,920
the crown. You got Aubrey Plaza, who's looking scary and

511
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960
sexy at the same time, and then Agatha just like,

512
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,160
here's me in like fifteen robes and it's like, all right,

513
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,599
it's cool. They're purple and everything, But so is there

514
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:17,960
any place someone wanted to start it?

515
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: I have a pitch, okay, pitch it. It's all a hoax.

516
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,240
The road is just a joke.

517
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just well, no, it wasn't Agatha

518
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:32,480
all along.

519
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:35,519
Speaker 2: It was the whole idea of the road.

520
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: I thought you meant the okay he no, no, no, no, no,

521
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,799
he did not give me all the facts there. Part

522
00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,200
of it was Agatha. Yeah, which part of the hopes

523
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,680
we talk about We talk about Agatha stuff.

524
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,839
Speaker 3: First, I was talking about the road itself, and but

525
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,359
I liked it because it's it's the road that doesn't

526
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,640
help me, the road that was manifested from Billy's imagination

527
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,200
and his powers to be. And I like that because

528
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,559
it parallels so nicely to Wanda. And again you get

529
00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:08,599
that whole elaborate scene of just its sequences in the

530
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,359
different orders of scenes, of just Agatha's saying, oh so

531
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,359
much like your mom. Yeah yeahah, yeah, yeah, I could

532
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
have done this, could have done that, And then he's realized, like,

533
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,400
holy fuck, like I created the road. Oh my god.

534
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,759
I really really like that scene. That was a really

535
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:24,319
really fun reveal. It was really really engaging. So yeah,

536
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,920
let's discuss.

537
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: They're just turned into an eighties radio shows. Yeah, let's discuss. Yeah,

538
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:35,799
I will say when that happened there in the full

539
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:42,000
reveal that and like, I was like, they fucking pulled

540
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,440
it all like to me, because here's the thing, there's

541
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,200
so much I was thinking about this right where when

542
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,160
they do the full reveal of the broach and its

543
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200
AGA's Sun, we talked about like week two or three

544
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,799
because it's like allready and you know, more power tone.

545
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,319
But there's TikTokers and there's people like we review everything.

546
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,240
We I'm not saying these people don't have lies, but

547
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,160
there's some people that are just truly dedicated to like

548
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,599
MSU's top and like they take everything right. So for

549
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,599
them being like, oh yeah, that's Sae of the Sun

550
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,319
and figure that out and then us kind again, I'll

551
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,799
be like, oh okay. So there's all the time where

552
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,559
there's kind of those like Frozen spoilers where they're not spoilers,

553
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:16,000
but because people put the theory out and everything leads

554
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:17,519
that way, we're like, Okay, it's not much of a

555
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:20,079
thing because like we've heard people talk about theories and

556
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,359
now I got the reveal. I could be wrong, but

557
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,279
I did not hear anybody talk about the theory of

558
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:25,880
oh yeah, this is all Billy's made up and it's

559
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,759
all his head especially because there is a comic book

560
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,319
called The Witch's Road. Now I've never I think read

561
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,240
it fully. It has some good artwork, but I don't

562
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,200
think it's like a made up thing either, The Witch's Road.

563
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:38,960
So that's where it's like a you know, not a

564
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,960
great comparison for some people like The Man Mander, Oh

565
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:46,440
my God, the Mandarin and Iron Man three, where it's

566
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,359
like a big twist. It's like that, not really Mandarin.

567
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240
I don't think it's to that level. But that's where

568
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:53,440
I was like, oh. And also then, like Taya said,

569
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,960
when they played all the clips showing you saying like

570
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,759
them East's character saying thing, it was like the you

571
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:02,160
know twenty years ago, oh today or yesterday, it's not

572
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,640
on this level. But like Saw came out and that

573
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,519
was one of those that's like the to me, the

574
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,079
best twists ever where the twists happens and they play

575
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,039
all the clips, you're like, fuck, and it's like that

576
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:12,799
where it's like, oh, all these clips now, it's like

577
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,279
they made sense in the context of the show while

578
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,000
they were happening, like you're so much like your mother

579
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,039
because he was popping off of those powers and everything.

580
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,720
But then they have like a double entaung Dry meeting

581
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,960
later on, it's just like like bravo, like that's where

582
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,200
again I don't know, Like sometimes things happen to shows,

583
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:31,880
this feels literally, not literally, it is literally they sat

584
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,480
down and mapped this whole thing out from starting to finish,

585
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,079
and that's what it should be. Where when we talk

586
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,559
about some like secret invasion, we're like, how the fuck

587
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,559
do we get from point A to point B? Like

588
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,319
where did we go? Like where are the missing letters?

589
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,599
Or point aight at point z? But like with this,

590
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,359
it's like you can see all of them. There was

591
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,119
like mystery letters we didn't even know about, so bravo

592
00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:52,079
to all of them. And even if they if some

593
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,519
people figured out, great you're smart. But for me, I

594
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:58,079
thought they still did the twists like very very well.

595
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,559
I I I imagine like I'm glad we got the doubleheader,

596
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,000
but man, if we would have to wait a whole week,

597
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,079
that would have been that would have been brutal. I

598
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,720
still think there could have been fun because the episode

599
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,039
eight acts almost like a finale until the ending moments

600
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,400
when there was twist revealed. It's just like egg of

601
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,119
his dad, Death's gone, the road's done and then Billy's

602
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,720
back at home. I kind of wish they just said

603
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,559
it was eight episodes and like when you and like,

604
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,279
I don't know how you could do that because they

605
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,039
drop them at the same time. But the way Netflix,

606
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:30,759
I don't know how it's programmed. Netflix used to do

607
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:32,319
this thing where it's like, hey, if you watched all

608
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,960
of Daredevil, after you watch that last episode, it'd be like, oh,

609
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,000
now there's like a teaser for Luke Cage and it's

610
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,200
like unlocked or something like that. I wish there was

611
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,920
a way, like imagine how hype that would have been,

612
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,880
because I don't know if you guys remember this way

613
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,400
long ago, there was theories that there was like a

614
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,799
secret wand to tenth episode. Remember we covered that, and

615
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
I would have fucking loved if imagine that that's the

616
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,000
Now you watch it, the billiying thing happens and it

617
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,279
says next episode, you'd be like, holy fuck, but it's.

618
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, it's gonna be an hour late for the review.

619
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960
I gotta watch this the next extra episode.

620
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: That's true, we would have been purpose, that's true, we

621
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,079
would have spoiled it. But like still like or even

622
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960
just a way of like if you would have, like

623
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,039
I think they could have just taken out the pre zone,

624
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,839
just put the episodes together so if you click on it,

625
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,519
you're like fucking an hour twenty like this, like this

626
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:14,559
is a long episode, Like.

627
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, epilogue. It really feels like an epilogue

628
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,960
episode because I'm completely in agreeance with you. You have like

629
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,359
the big clash battle you have, you know, like wicking

630
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:28,119
in all of his glory, nice nice cool outfits.

631
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: So like classic suit reveal that they do every finale

632
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,799
right is.

633
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:34,319
Speaker 2: Back in her in her like you know, outfit that's

634
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:38,839
not so flattering, but I I completely agree. I think

635
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,160
that would have been so exciting because I feel like

636
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,559
it felt like dessert, like that extra episode, especially as

637
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,559
I was saying in the non spoilers, like I love

638
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,799
the way that that episode had just started of kind

639
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,720
of you know, like you've been wondering about Egepa's Sun

640
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:53,680
and like what happened? Here you go, this is like

641
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,839
this is we're going way back and then we basically they're.

642
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Great flashback episode again, like you.

643
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,319
Speaker 2: Know, and we're just like living through you know, we're

644
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,240
we're we're jumping through moments. But like we're just living

645
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:06,279
kind of through her life up until the point of

646
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,599
meeting Billy. So like, I just I love the way

647
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680
that went, and yeah, I was just so hyped on

648
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160
basically the penultimate finale and then I was just I

649
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,319
was just eating up everything else extra. But speaking back

650
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:23,960
to yeah, just the whole reveal about it being Billy's right,

651
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,359
I think like I kind of couple that with just

652
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,519
the reveal of Agatha being like just the tricks. I

653
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,200
feel like personally I like the Agatha reveal more than

654
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,359
the Billy one, just because it it really shows, okay,

655
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,279
like Agatha is a bad person. Like it's like she's

656
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:46,000
just misunderstood, Like oh wow, she's she's actually everything that

657
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,759
you know, we we we've been led to believe she is.

658
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: If we were maybe we've never done this, been able

659
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,519
to do this next MC ranking, if we were to

660
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,839
do a ranking of because you know, every time we

661
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,839
do it in the phase we do our top ten villains,

662
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,319
if we're doing some variation of that, but not villains

663
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,119
of like oh I like kill mar kids of this,

664
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,599
but like a top ten like who are the worst

665
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,519
of the worst. I don't know where she is, but

666
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:07,880
I think Antha's for sure in the top ten for

667
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:12,839
mu Like, how many people did that year was nineteen

668
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,880
or so? It was seventeen fifty, so almost three every

669
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,319
years ago, every year, like how many people? And I

670
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:22,319
know witches can be like you know some I'm sure

671
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,319
there's some bad ones along the way, but still it's

672
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,000
like not all of them were bad. So it's like

673
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,039
how many people did she murder? And not just like

674
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,440
a even Multiversemannist was like, hey, Wanda, she killed this

675
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,279
a fantastic she killed Captain Carter. But she's like, oh,

676
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,720
the dark hold was there, like you know, twist her

677
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,960
mind nothing on. No, Agatha's willingly. Even her son's like,

678
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:44,519
maybe we should stop killing witches. Oh yeah, you never know,

679
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,759
and she's like, oh yeah, Like I was shocked and

680
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,720
I had like I was looking at my kids and like,

681
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,599
oh yeah, like I had to explain it. Yeah, she's

682
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,599
still a bad person. Because I thought for sure that

683
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,319
was not gonna be the case. I thought they would

684
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:01,599
not even to reveal that in this season, all these

685
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,599
characters that we liked, Alice, Missus Hart, Julia, Kate, she

686
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,079
was gonna kill him. She legitly was gonna kill him

687
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,759
that episode and it's like, yeah, you are a villain.

688
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:13,680
That's why I loved even at the end, it wasn't

689
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:18,119
like she. I think she ended up being nonfatuated like

690
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:19,920
a romantic way, but just like she grew a liking

691
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,519
to Billy and it's like her. But she even said

692
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,720
it's like her son. It's not like a big sacrifice

693
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,279
for the fucking universe. It's just she saw qualities that

694
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,319
her and the Sun or him and the son had together.

695
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,559
So she didn't like even have like a huge redemption

696
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,640
saving only to Billy, right, but not to everybody else.

697
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,119
So I was like, Bravo Tomorrow Studios for doing that.

698
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,799
She didn't get the Loki treatment, where oh at the

699
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,799
end of Loki he's a good guy. Now it's like no,

700
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,359
Agatha is still just like a very questionable individual that's charismatic,

701
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:52,799
you know, great played greatly by Katherine Hahn, well so wild. Yeah,

702
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,039
TYR were surprised by that. But uh, Agatha's how bad

703
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:57,839
she was in her uh her episode.

704
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: But I know she was bad, but that was like

705
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,160
really really bad. Like there's Stanos and then there's Agatha.

706
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,200
That's how I see it too. Yeah, I think it

707
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:08,880
might not be wrong.

708
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: That's I said, I want to do a ranking. Maybe

709
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,000
we'll do a bread and Butter episode of that. I

710
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,200
think once he watched the Agatha would be down for

711
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,319
that because like until Doom gets there. I'm trying to think,

712
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:18,720
like because even kill Monger, it's like I can't put

713
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,400
Killo on the top ten. Like he's like like a

714
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,960
magneta like gold, right, where Agatha complete selfish, like just

715
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,119
for like what immortality and power.

716
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,359
Speaker 3: And that's pretty dark. Hold, right, she doesn't have the

717
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,279
dark fingers yet.

718
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Even Thanos at first is just trying to like

719
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,880
help the universe out in his twisted way, right, he

720
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,279
thinks he's doing like Egg is not. Who's she helping

721
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,079
once once Nicholas is dead?

722
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, a maximum power, terrible person.

723
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I thought that that was That was

724
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:48,839
such like the song, that song is like burning my

725
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,039
mind right now. Yeah, just going through all the different

726
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,200
ages and her just screwing over all these witches. That

727
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:56,559
was just yeah, that was good stuff. I was really

728
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,799
really enjoying it. And just yeah, seeing seeing the foundation

729
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,799
and the the creation of where this song stems from

730
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:06,920
and just how she's kind of twisted that and warped

731
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,720
it into this now like she was always killing witches,

732
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:12,160
but it just has it feels like it has a

733
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,440
different meaning now with her son being dead, and actually

734
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,319
like Madison was actually tearing up. She had water coming

735
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,480
out of her eyes from this when her son Nicholas

736
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,440
passes away, and you just get the whole treatment. Aubrey

737
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,079
Plaisa was great. That episode is super super freaky. But yeah,

738
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,559
just it was such a man such an absolute fantastic episode.

739
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,359
She like Catherine Haun, really really delivered. It was really

740
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,920
really well done. And yeah, I just think that this

741
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,599
is the amount of people she killed just blows my mind.

742
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,920
But I like how I like how they concluded that episode.

743
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,440
I thought that was really really fun and I'm excited

744
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,240
to see how it's gonna carry on with her being

745
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,799
like force ghosts.

746
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which is ripped right out of the combo,

747
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:59,359
because that's usually what she is. Even if because Kirkly

748
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,000
you dabbled at me Night Sun's up, I was.

749
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Gonna say, this is like the Midnight Sun's version of Agatha,

750
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,480
which is she even had like a little bit of

751
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,320
Sindale aesthetic to her. I don't know if you the

752
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,679
character for Mortal Kombat just like her colors and the

753
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
white hair. But yeah, I totally thought of Midnight suns

754
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:15,400
and something.

755
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: And usually she's more in this for like an aid

756
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:21,800
of Agatha, so earth fuck no for Wanda. So it's

757
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,119
kind of like fitting that. Well, they've transferred that over

758
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
to Billy right to be his kind of you know,

759
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,480
force ghosts and sense. So uh no, I thought that

760
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:34,360
was great. And because even when they the episode eight ends,

761
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,199
he turns around, you know, it's Agatha. She's like hey

762
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,599
or something like that, and he scares like, Okay, what's

763
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,440
the big deal, Like it's just Agatha, And again the

764
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,960
show's like, oh yeah, this is the deal. It's like

765
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,119
she's a ghost and she's dead. Now I'm just really curious.

766
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,679
And that's the thing. It's the m so you never know,

767
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880
like is there way to physically resurrect her get her

768
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,440
body back?

769
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: But like if not there is, oh, come on, I

770
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,920
feel so many people I know.

771
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 1: There is, but I kind of like I kind of

772
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920
hope there's not, Like I would love, like I don't know,

773
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,880
I don't know what it takes for like her to

774
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,639
play the character now and like goes for him if

775
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,480
it's annoying for her to do or something like that.

776
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,079
But I would love it if like Midnight Sun's want

777
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,360
of like this was her role, because we talked about

778
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,199
this in the predictions, like, hey, where does she appear next?

779
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,719
If there's no wand of movie announced, where does she

780
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
appear next? I have a question for both these characters,

781
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,199
like I may we'll get to that later because it

782
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,559
ends on a very and that's the one thing no

783
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,159
end credit, which I was very surprised, I thought for sure,

784
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,960
especially the way the show end. I'm like, Oh, there's

785
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,360
gotta be something more of a tease of what direction.

786
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719
It's like, I don't know, is this a young Avenger?

787
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,320
I guess we just talk about is this a younger

788
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,360
because it ends with he's gonna I guess if we

789
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,679
didn't say you're spoils, she's dead and do not make

790
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,280
it in this episode after the big reveal, he turns

791
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,039
around Agatha as a ghost like we said just in

792
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,800
the comic books, and she's kind of haunting a little bit.

793
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,039
He's trying to ignore her. He also realizes that which

794
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:54,119
again this is where I'll come back to that because

795
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,639
you made a great comparison there too about like how

796
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:58,840
it's like WandaVision. I think they did that perfectly, but

797
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,239
he feels guilty because yeah, he did like accidentally kill

798
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,440
some people. So that sucks for Billy, much like his

799
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,599
mom you know, has that in common. But he's gonna

800
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,199
go back and get rid of Agatha. So he's drawn

801
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,320
witchy things and he's doing ritual and stuff and he's

802
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,480
gonna do it. And then she says, well, I'm too

803
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,480
scared to face him meeting her son, which I think

804
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,920
that is whenever it's still yeah, oh my god, it's him.

805
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,760
Whenever they end the Agatha character, I feel like that's

806
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,880
gonna be her last scene as her scene or son,

807
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,480
I would imagine, right, like that kind of has to.

808
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,639
It's almost like the Peggy Carter Captain America thing, like

809
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,679
I feel like they've now made an illusion, like hey,

810
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,719
that is her end game right there. But he goes

811
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,760
to the spell she can't and she just says, hey,

812
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,400
you know, what's the next best thing or whatever, like

813
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,519
I'm gonna help you. We can be a team. Yet, dada,

814
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,719
da uh, Let's go find Tommy. And that's where it ends.

815
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,119
That's where it's like if there is a wand of movie,

816
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,039
does it pick up there is this something you pick

817
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:55,880
up in Young Avengers? Is this something you pick up

818
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,679
in Vision? Because that's also his son? Is there another

819
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,239
show which again this show started to climb up in ratings.

820
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,519
I don't know where it is as far as like

821
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:04,480
the other ones. I don't think it's high high, but

822
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,000
still start to climb up. It's like, where do you

823
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:09,199
see these characters next? I hope it's not like the

824
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,719
problem we've had with Phase four and five where we

825
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,920
get this a lot where some she came out three

826
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,159
years ago and we haven't seen him even though he

827
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,440
told the Tan Rings will return, right, we haven't seen

828
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,559
Moonnight again. So it's like, it's tough. That's my only

829
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,800
worry if like, I'm excited they end this so well,

830
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,480
but also it's like, are we going to be doing

831
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,239
a cast in four years being like where's Billy and Wanda?

832
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,239
You know, which could happen? So the sky effect, Well,

833
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,800
we don't need to see Scar again. Nobody nobody's asking where.

834
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: His scaler is. They want to find Tommy. They got

835
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,679
to get Scar first. Why he's gonna help them find

836
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,639
tom Maybe I know the guy. Maybe Scar was the

837
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:50,280
one drowning in the lake and Tommy and the scar Spy.

838
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,079
Speaker 2: That's how they end that character drowned in a pool.

839
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:56,920
He fought the fuck uh what's it called the midnight

840
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,280
what's it called night? Swim that pool?

841
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Pool? Yeah?

842
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he lost in the geek verses there. But let's

843
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,480
see before you go there, I'll throw somebody listen to

844
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,119
the podcast for a few years. This is my first

845
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,360
time catch you guys night Alive. Oh nice Cheerman, Thank you.

846
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,239
I should have pre read that, because, like I imagine,

847
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,079
if I listen to the podcast for years, this episode

848
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,360
fucking sucks. I'm tuning out, you know, but I did so,

849
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,199
thank you. Jared. Yeah, welcome. Kevin Davis says, I guess

850
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,719
all along. We'll get any nominations. I won't go that far.

851
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,159
I think much like the Oscars, they allow one comic

852
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:32,000
book thing in and unfortunately is coming out when Penguins. Yeah,

853
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,920
and Penguin's gonna take all those fucking roles. So I

854
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,400
think like cost that you could do like costuming stuff

855
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,679
like that, maybe anything. Maybe I could see maybe enacting

856
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,440
like because they might try to put this in like comedy,

857
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,320
and I could see them getting like a Catherine Han there.

858
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,079
But like, there's definitely some comedy in these last episodes,

859
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,119
but these last episodes were not a comedy these this

860
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,760
to me was kind of depressing at times, like and

861
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,039
one thing I'll show before I throw back to you guys.

862
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,199
Multiple moments in this these poot the two par here,

863
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,679
the score was phenomenal, especially when Agatha was dying. I

864
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,039
was like, man, this is there, this is hien some

865
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,159
great notes for me, which the Disney Plus stuff has

866
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,159
always been kind of I think fifty to fifty if

867
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:12,800
sometimes great score and sometimes it's just like, okay, you

868
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,800
got this off Pond five cheap cool, you.

869
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: Know, like the uh like the score that they had.

870
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,719
When Billy was like realizing that he did the whole

871
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,119
road thing, like it's it was like a really suspenseful,

872
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,519
like freaky something, and I was like terrified as to

873
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,159
like what this was going to be. Meaning I'm like, okay,

874
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:31,960
that means that it was all kind of in his head.

875
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,199
But then I think just the reality was said and

876
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,719
it was like, oh no, there is people that died

877
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,039
on this.

878
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: It's in all their fucking heads. But it's real. That's

879
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,159
that's the fucked up thing. It's in his head. So

880
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,159
it goes into their heads, but it's a real thing.

881
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,519
It's like that's like it's fine. That'd be the worst

882
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,800
scenario to be in because it's just And that's why

883
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920
I love that flash when they show her doing all

884
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,719
the Witch's Road thing and she sings it, and now

885
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,760
that's why I can't wait watch that when she's show shocked,

886
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,320
like I think about this for almost three hundred years,

887
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,039
She's made up this lie and then she sings and

888
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:02,159
then the fucking which just road appears in front of her.

889
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,880
That would have been, like I think Catherine Hahnen now

890
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,760
looking at sold it fantastically of like what the.

891
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,519
Speaker 2: That's like another reason why I want to rewatch it, right, yeah,

892
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,440
to like see those scenes knowing that, And yeah, I

893
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,000
I also just love the like that whole song is

894
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,639
like a siren chant for witches right, like like she

895
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,480
literally just used it like lurein witches because it feels

896
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,400
like that. It like it feels very like over the top,

897
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,440
like this is a witch song. Yeah, but like it

898
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,920
makes sense. So yeah, where do.

899
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,559
Speaker 1: We see these two next?

900
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: Where do we see I mean, as soon as I

901
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,119
saw Billy in the outfit, I'm like, oh man, young Avengers,

902
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,719
like that's just like that's another that's another member right there.

903
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,519
It just but speak.

904
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,039
Speaker 1: But can you tell the Tommy story in Young Avengers though,

905
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:49,480
you know.

906
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to, Like I I don't

907
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,599
want the whole Young Avengers they never find Tommy. Well,

908
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,679
I don't want like a collaboration of Avengers type movie

909
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,159
to be like, let's find tom Let's find Billy's brother,

910
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:03,719
you know, like I'd want it to be a bigger

911
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,199
deal than that.

912
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: So unless he's got the key to something, right, like,

913
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,159
there's something like is.

914
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: It wild to think like there's gonna be like another

915
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,519
series like this announced with like Agatha and Billy.

916
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: My hope is that they go, hey, like ratings are

917
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480
what they were, but if that is true, that this

918
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,480
is the least expensive MSU project, and they go, we

919
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,800
kept the budget low and the returns we've gone and

920
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,519
we're happy. Let's do that again with the same thing

921
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,360
and keep the budget relatively sane and then have that,

922
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:34,320
you know, same thing spooky see like rinse and repeat.

923
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,559
And I'm hoping that the the word and I claim

924
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,079
this will be good and other people will give it

925
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,880
a shot. So I'm not gonna say completely no. I

926
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,480
think I'm like a, I'm like A. I guess I

927
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,639
don't know. Even saying fifty to fifty sounds too high.

928
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,880
I think I'll say, like, I'm a fifty one for

929
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,320
known for for yes, because maybe some of it's the

930
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,000
hype right now, but I just feel like, again, if

931
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,400
it's like the show's started to grow in ratings because

932
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,039
I think word did spread that was good and it

933
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:05,960
is cheaper budget, that might help it, just the budget

934
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,079
being lower, you know.

935
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like part of me also wouldn't want

936
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,880
them to do like another show carry on with these characters,

937
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,039
because now that now that Billy's got his outfit, I'm like, hey,

938
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:17,679
put them on the bay screen, like this guy's ready

939
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,719
to shine, he's ready to kick ass. And I would

940
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,639
also be worried that if they jump into another season

941
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:28,760
maybe just I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm predicting

942
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,559
it not to be not even necessarily like a bomb

943
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:33,519
or something, but like, I just wouldn't want the interest

944
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:37,199
of the character to just like maybe lose interest because

945
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:41,039
of another another season of show, and maybe because Catherine

946
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:42,599
Haunt like she's gonna be in it, but because it's

947
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,679
not like her story, maybe some people will be a

948
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,000
little bit less interested, so.

949
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Or do they just cheat and call it Agatha Season.

950
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,079
Speaker 2: Two Agatha and Billy, Like I could definitely.

951
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,199
Speaker 1: See something like that, like I think you'd have because yeah,

952
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,880
I think if you just go Billy and if you

953
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,599
call it Wickan or Billy and Tommy, like that's not

954
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:01,199
gonna work. And that's where I feel like. And I

955
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:06,519
also feel like you're not gonna get like Liz Olsen

956
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,760
in one of these maybe like I can't. Yeah, but

957
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,159
I don't think she's gonna be like I don't know,

958
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,519
I guess should if it's Billy.

959
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: If it's like a billy story, though, I could definitely

960
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,599
see that happening.

961
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:17,599
Speaker 1: But it's say that but like she fucking wasn't want

962
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,159
a vision. I'm talking like, oh would she do that?

963
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:20,800
It's like that's how it's all started. She did a

964
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,719
TV show, right, So, But.

965
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,039
Speaker 2: Like I also feel like Billy is gonna find Tommy

966
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:29,239
before he finds, you know, Liz Olsen. It just seems

967
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,559
that order of thing. I I I think that would

968
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,159
be sweet, you know, like once they're together, then they

969
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:37,840
find kind of her together. Yeah, they both find her,

970
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,760
So I don't know. I don't know really one hundred

971
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,320
percent where it would go. Stop Insanity in the comments said,

972
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,840
you know, talked about Vision Quests like and you brought

973
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,119
that up too, so that one would make sense as well.

974
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:53,840
But I also feel like Vision's just like completely on

975
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,960
his own now. Maybe it's just because it's been so

976
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:00,519
long now, but like he's got white Vision just just

977
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,039
just out there looking for knowledge.

978
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,119
Speaker 1: And so there's two things. One the other character I

979
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:06,840
still will talk about later because we told it was

980
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,119
last week Kirkling. I don't want them to forget about death,

981
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:10,760
and that would be another character I would want them

982
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,760
to incorporate and go forward. We'll talk about more. How

983
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,840
I no pun intent vision in for Vision Quest is

984
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,800
I think that would be a last episode or end

985
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,679
credit scene, because the rumor is that there's lots of

986
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,920
rumors with Vision where it was based on Vision Quest,

987
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,880
but then there's rumors that's based on him setting up

988
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,519
like the West Coast Avengers. Then there's rumors that like

989
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,119
some of the Armour Wars storylines going into his show,

990
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,920
but then there's been rumors that it's doing the Vision

991
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,039
storyline where he creates like a whole robot family and

992
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:41,159
they go to school, and he has a wife and everything.

993
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,119
I feel like Vision show is mostly going to be him,

994
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,280
and the end credit or something near the end would be, Hey,

995
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,079
let's say Ward gets out there that people so like

996
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,000
it's been reported, remember fucking Spider Man far from Home.

997
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:57,079
They do that whole you know, tribute PowerPoint thing Visions

998
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,719
in that right, it's confirmed Visions dead, So that's where

999
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,440
the world things Vision's dead, and then Vision comes back.

1000
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:05,280
I would imagine if let's say Agatha and Billy have

1001
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,039
not found Tommy yet, that he would probably go stop

1002
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,280
and talk with Vision, right, So I don't think it's

1003
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,320
out of the round possibility that they're it's connected. I

1004
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,519
just don't think that's the show, you know. I don't

1005
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,679
think it's the show. Is oh I found I guess

1006
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:22,280
I don't know. Maybe you could do like a I

1007
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,440
wouldn't be opposed to some weird road trip show of Vision,

1008
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Billy and Agatha trying to go find Like I'm actually

1009
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,559
not opposed to that pitch of like, I think this

1010
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,199
is such a weird threesome like Vision the Robot, Billy

1011
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360
the Magical Kid, and Agatha the Ghost like walk into

1012
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,599
a bar. You know, like, I think the hijinxing again

1013
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,400
too is great, but I just hope we see them

1014
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,880
either way. You know. So what about you, Taylor, what

1015
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,519
do you got some vibes right now where we could

1016
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:50,280
see these two again?

1017
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:56,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the ultimate question. I mean, uh, I

1018
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,840
feel like you could get something in line with you have,

1019
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,800
like got Hawkeye his show, and.

1020
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: You have well I don't think he's gonna be a Hawkeye.

1021
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,199
Speaker 3: What you know, you have like Elena peering up with

1022
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,599
Kate Bishop, right, and then you have a wasn't it

1023
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:16,719
at the end? Was it Miss Marvel that cameo in there,

1024
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:18,760
like I'm recruiting people to Kate.

1025
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: In the Marvels. The end credit was her recruiting Kate Bishop.

1026
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So yeah, I think that you could.

1027
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,679
It's hard to tell because really you could get anything

1028
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,599
like that. You could get a scene like that that's

1029
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,400
setting it up, and it could be in a totally

1030
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,199
random project. So I don't know, it's hard to say.

1031
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:41,280
Maybe iron Heart you could see something from so maybe.

1032
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean so in the sense of when do you

1033
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,519
where would you resolve the storyline up? Tommy that because yeah,

1034
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:48,360
we can get an end credit a camera, but where

1035
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,800
is the do they pick up this direct? Hey, they're

1036
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,800
looking for Tommy.

1037
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't think you're I don't know, you're gonna have

1038
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,280
some kind of reference to it. And I imagine with

1039
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
with Vision Snow Vision doing his thing, but I still

1040
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,840
feel like he's kind of off on his own path

1041
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:06,320
a little bit too much to really to heavily be

1042
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,320
invested with Billy and with Tommy and everything going on

1043
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,599
at the Agatha Ghost. I just don't see them kind

1044
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:15,119
of like connecting in that regard. But I think that

1045
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:19,800
they will share some kind of relation or connection somehow.

1046
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,400
But yeah, it's it's tough to say, Like, I don't

1047
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,000
think doctor Strange is gonna be coming back into it,

1048
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,039
and I say that because of the multiverse of Madness,

1049
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,639
So I think that. Ever, Yeah, I just think that

1050
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,440
I think that they've alluded it enough that Wanda is

1051
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,159
definitely still alive. They've kept that pretty ambiguous and open

1052
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,519
the little bit. So I think that you're gonna have

1053
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,559
want to come back. You're gonna you're gonna get a reunion.

1054
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:43,079
I think they're probably got it storyboarded where you're gonna

1055
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,519
have both the twins. You're gonna have snow Vision, and

1056
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:50,400
you're gonna have Wanda lined up, and who knows, maybe

1057
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,719
they throw in a quick silver too. I feel like

1058
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,760
maybe they would go that round Bone or they might

1059
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440
do something like that. I just feel like they're they're

1060
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,079
bill up towards some kind of uh something climactic and

1061
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:04,840
having some kind of connection with all of them. But

1062
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:06,760
I just couldn't tell you what that project is. It

1063
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,679
just seems like all the other projects that we got

1064
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,519
right now seem pretty like Boots in the Ground, pretty sane,

1065
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,159
uh and I probably forget.

1066
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Their bolts Fantastic four, but that's another multiverse, right, so

1067
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,599
that wouldn't count.

1068
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: Nothing like Witchy Magic anything like that.

1069
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: So my worry is, like, is it the realm possibility

1070
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,639
that it doesn't This doesn't get picked up till like

1071
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,559
after Secret Wars and Doomsday, like that kind of rumor

1072
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:33,039
we heard.

1073
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: About after Doomsday. I could believe that after Doomsday that's

1074
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,599
when they pick it up again. So four years from now, regrettably, yeah,

1075
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,599
fuck man.

1076
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: These nevermind kids, Billy's want to Mavillain visions. Kids are

1077
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,119
gonna be a fucking adults paying mortgages when they find them, Like, God,

1078
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:52,920
Tommy's gonna be like in debt, who knows, but uh

1079
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,880
uh something in Sandy says, I really love that we

1080
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,559
officially of go c MC now come in the long

1081
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,480
way since Iron Man. Yeah, it's always funny thing where

1082
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,320
you look think of how grounded that two thousand and

1083
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,639
eight Iron Man movie was just about a guy making

1084
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,960
a suit. Like it's very you know, real worldly. And

1085
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,559
now yeah, Agatha is a ghost with a witched student.

1086
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1087
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: So Jeremy says, give me a strange Academy show with

1088
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,559
ghosts Agatha as a teacher or principal or something. I

1089
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:20,840
wouldn't mind. I think there's something, there's something you could

1090
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,159
do with like her and Wong, Like I think there

1091
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:25,639
is a show you could do a collection of characters.

1092
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,159
But that's the problem of like do you start to

1093
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:29,159
run out the budget. Then that's what I don't know.

1094
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:31,239
I'm not, you know, pushing the pennies around. So I

1095
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,719
don't know where that's happening. But we'll take another ad

1096
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,880
break and then we'll talk about Tommy and death and something.

1097
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,920
That stuff will be right back and we're back. So yeah,

1098
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,239
we didn't talk about it officially. But like it, you know,

1099
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,440
it happened on screen. They found Billy, I guess his

1100
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,320
like or Tommy. His ether was just I don't know,

1101
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,639
floating around, I guess, which is kind of like I wonder,

1102
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:55,280
like like after three years, he's still flowing around, like

1103
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,760
I guess, Like now that's like a stretch because it's combook.

1104
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,039
But I just thought, like I thought, there's gonna be

1105
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:00,960
something else more than just he's still just like a

1106
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,400
soul out there. But all right, he's a soul. I

1107
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,840
really love the scene where he found a kid because

1108
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,960
I love that it's Billy, like, ur am I killing

1109
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,239
a kid right now so my brother can survive? She

1110
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,880
did answer that just like no, it's just like we're

1111
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,280
just finding somebody that died and this is a new vessel, right.

1112
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,760
But I love that struggle of Billy of like wanting

1113
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,360
this thing, but you're possibly committing a really you know,

1114
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,199
sinful act and stuff. So I thought that was great

1115
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,519
and the whole scene and everything. And then also in

1116
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,960
that scene, we this is something I thought was kind

1117
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,800
of random and I don't know the whole Uh. Her

1118
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,800
name was Kate right right, the one that survived the

1119
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,599
other one Jen I thought, Jen, why'd I say, go Kay?

1120
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,599
I don't know, but Jen, I thought that was like

1121
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:47,519
a little like the whole reveal that Agatha is the

1122
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:49,480
one that actually bound her and then they do the

1123
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,760
ceremony and she goes I. I don't know that that

1124
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,199
felt a.

1125
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,639
Speaker 2: Little flat for me. I don't know why, Like it

1126
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,400
just it didn't have as much of like an impact

1127
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,480
of a review as maybe the show was going for.

1128
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:03,320
And then they like when they do the thing and

1129
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,440
then she just disappears, like, oh okay, that's just the

1130
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:08,280
end of that character. Like I for how she was

1131
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,639
set up and just some of the things that she

1132
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,599
was doing, like in the Trials, it's it. It felt

1133
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,960
like a character that was gonna have more. But yeah, and.

1134
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: It's just like when we talk about how to me,

1135
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:21,800
that whole Billy twists and the riches, the witches rowing,

1136
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,519
all the being made up that feels so well planned

1137
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,480
out that just like how do we what do we do? Well,

1138
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:29,000
let's just say Agatha, you know, Hope bounder and that's it.

1139
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,320
Oh yeah, sure cool because a even does like oh

1140
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,159
did you pass through that? Are you like one hundred

1141
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,280
years ago? Yes? I did? Did you bound me? It's

1142
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,039
just like, I don't know, it just it just that

1143
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,960
felt very clunky. It's it felt so clunky that I

1144
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:44,039
maybe rather than just killed Jen off if that's the

1145
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:46,519
way it went, you know, and put more onus on

1146
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:49,360
Billy and just be like, man, I really screwed up here.

1147
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,880
But yeah, I that was kind of odd. But like

1148
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,119
I said, I like the actual Tommy part. Did you

1149
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:58,679
like that part, Girk when the get finding Tommy some kid?

1150
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,880
He's pretty much just fucking Jason Vohrer. He's orgy. He's

1151
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,679
getting drowned in the camp right now by a bunch

1152
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,159
of kids.

1153
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like I didn't love the whole

1154
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,079
like fever dream type like mind trippy thing that was

1155
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:15,199
going on. It just I don't know, I just didn't

1156
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,639
fully understand like what was happening, and I guess and

1157
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,480
then when it was revealed what it was, maybe I

1158
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:23,199
thought he was gonna be like a significant individual or something,

1159
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,760
but it just it wasn't. For whatever reason, I didn't

1160
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,199
really care for it. So I'm curious on a rewatch

1161
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,559
how I feel about it. But uh, I'm I'm glad

1162
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:34,280
that we, you know, were getting to Tommy. At least

1163
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,159
it wasn't just Tommy's out there, like we were making

1164
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:38,599
steps to finding him here.

1165
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Didn't catch the actor yet because he didn't show his face,

1166
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,760
so they're still working on that part. He's face down

1167
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,239
the water, which I just wonder, like it was odd

1168
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,039
the way they're talking about him, like it's a kid

1169
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:51,000
that drowns and no one's washing him. But I felt

1170
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,280
like they were first thing like he just drowned, but

1171
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,920
it's it looked like those kids were like like drowning him.

1172
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,920
So like, wouldn't it just be like he'd come alive

1173
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:02,360
and they would they would just proceed to drowning him again.

1174
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,719
I don't I don't know. I wonder if we'll ever

1175
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,360
touch back on that. But do there any thoughts on

1176
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,679
the ton reveal and the end of jen story.

1177
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: I was almost suspecting that what if Tommy you were

1178
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,920
to become more of a villain here because of this.

1179
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:23,000
You know, Billy was just saying he's alone, Billy. Billy

1180
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:25,000
was just saying like he has no one, He's alone.

1181
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
He's got no family, no friends though, no like no one,

1182
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,480
and he's being murdered now by these group of kids.

1183
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, just.

1184
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: To me, that spells origin story for a villain. So

1185
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:36,599
that would just be a cool setup if you were

1186
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,760
to get something like Billy versus Tommy, where Billy thought

1187
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,199
he was doing the right thing bringing Tommy in. But Tommy,

1188
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,119
you know, it'll be the same process as it was

1189
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:45,760
for Billy. He's going to come back into the world.

1190
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,840
He's not going to fully understand what's going on or

1191
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,760
anything like that, and it's just going to be met

1192
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,239
with hate and not love and compassion that he got

1193
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,079
from you know, Billy got from his parents, right, So

1194
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,199
it's a completely different dynamic, And I think that you

1195
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,760
could get a different result where you have like twin

1196
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,639
verse twin so, which would be a very cool thing

1197
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,119
to see.

1198
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: I think you'll get there for like a like a

1199
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,599
scene like you'll have them fight and then like it's

1200
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:11,519
me Billy, you know, it's me Tommy, and then that'll

1201
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:14,239
be it. Like I think that'll be the situation happening

1202
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,559
right now because he's supposed to get the speed powers, Tommy,

1203
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,519
so maybe you won't be able to catch him. But

1204
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,159
and yeah, what do you think about gen story? Were

1205
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:26,480
you satisfied by that that Agatha all along again was

1206
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:28,480
the one who bound her?

1207
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it just happened so quick. I just I

1208
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,960
almost missed it. And then all of a sudden, she's

1209
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,960
wrapped hair around Agatha's hands and it's saying you are nothing,

1210
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,599
you are nothing, like Oh my gosh, I think that

1211
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:45,119
it's it's it's unfortunate that that was just that's the result.

1212
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:49,920
It was just a quick passing scene and they could

1213
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,039
have added a little bit more to it. So all

1214
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,000
in all, a little bit disappointed with how they executed that.

1215
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:56,760
But I'm happy that Gen made it out. I'm happy

1216
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,079
that Jen got her powers. It's pretty cool. So your

1217
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:02,400
flyaway at the there was pretty nice. But I'm imagining

1218
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,440
that they got plans for this character and that she

1219
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:09,360
will come back, do you. I'm I reckon, So, I

1220
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,800
mean they I think out of all the characters, like

1221
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,199
Heart definitely just was there as Kenon Fodder. I co't

1222
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,559
with the other girl's name, but the one who started

1223
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:24,000
using her powers on Agatha Alice. So Alice. I think

1224
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:26,119
I liked that we kind of got to send off

1225
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:28,159
for her character. That was kind of that was kind

1226
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:33,159
of nice. But Lilia, the whole last week was kind

1227
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:35,039
of her send up episode when you think about it,

1228
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,559
so Yeah, No, I'm just excited to see Jen kind

1229
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,199
of keeping at it.

1230
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: What I'm excited about, hopefully as being going to talk

1231
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,039
about next week or last week, not next week. There's

1232
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:48,000
no Angtha review. That is what they're gonna do with Death.

1233
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:51,239
I very much enjoyed Death in this episode. I still

1234
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,360
will liked maybe I'm being you know, don't be green now,

1235
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,039
but I would have loved like another flash maybe not

1236
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,719
whole flashback episode, but a segment of how Agatha and

1237
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,920
Death met. We did see them actually kissed this episode,

1238
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,199
which I was surprised because sometimes these Disney you know,

1239
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,800
products of this probably is Disney plus the movies that

1240
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,039
I don't do that, but I wanted to see like

1241
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,039
a little more context on their relationship. We picked up

1242
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:18,920
when Agatha was already pregnant, and which is funny because

1243
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,079
at first I make it go, oh, like the whole

1244
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,480
show's been like people say, oh, you know, she traded

1245
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,000
her son for something, right, and it's oh, ength is

1246
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:28,079
a really bad person. And then when you get to

1247
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,480
that first episode nine, you're like, oh, you know, actually

1248
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,880
your someone's dying. She just wants some more time and

1249
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,719
she got that, and you're like, oh, they had all wrong.

1250
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,559
And again, as we said, Engtha ended up to be

1251
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,440
worse and there's more bad things she was doing, but

1252
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480
that's what they revealed that I guess Agatha's son was

1253
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,239
gonna be dying right at childbirth, so death gave her

1254
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,679
some time, which I wanted to get even more conversation

1255
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,079
on that when she's like, hey, I'm gonna give you.

1256
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,920
All I can give you is time, So it's like, well,

1257
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,320
why can't you give her like sixty years? Like I

1258
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,800
want to know, like what is the At first I

1259
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,719
was like, oh, is there something where she's killing these

1260
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,039
witches and that like adds time to it? But no, again,

1261
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:06,840
I guess I was just doing it for herself. So

1262
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,960
I would have liked a little more again context on

1263
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,840
what is the barometers of what death can give as

1264
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,760
far as time wise, right, because with Alice's like, no,

1265
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,960
it's not. Because even Alice was like, that's all I get,

1266
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:19,679
that's it, and she's like, oh, you know, if I

1267
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:21,599
had a nicole like she made it seem like very

1268
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,599
matter of fact when that happens, it is. And I

1269
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:27,440
will say I liked the visuals. I like when she

1270
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,639
showed up. I like when she showed to get Nicholas

1271
00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:31,880
and she had the fire torch everything. I will say

1272
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,119
for anybody that's interested, if you never watch it, even

1273
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:36,320
if you don't watch the whole series, there's a great

1274
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,440
episode of the SAMN on Netflix that's a DC Vertigo

1275
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:41,880
comic and there's an episode that's all about death, and

1276
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,239
that is a fucking great episode. So for me, it's

1277
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,199
like all the things that I really want a bit

1278
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:49,960
more with death. That episode kind of gets into it.

1279
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,119
Obviously very different properties, but I just been like that

1280
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:54,480
concept of I feel like they left a little bit

1281
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:56,519
on the table here, even though all the stuff they're

1282
00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:59,840
doing with her I really liked. I kind of I

1283
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:02,199
at it because this Disney show, I kind of wish

1284
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:04,519
they When I get the found her son, I thought

1285
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,960
they're gonna give her like a big scene, but they

1286
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,840
cut away really fast, probably just because they don't want

1287
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,800
to show dead kids on Disney less here. I am

1288
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,360
want like some Academy Award like show or crime with

1289
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,119
the dead kids with your kids, And that's why I'm like, yeah,

1290
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:19,360
probably not. Why So again, I liked all the death stuff,

1291
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,480
just maybe want a bit more of it and more

1292
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,840
clarification of it but still fun character.

1293
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm I'm really glad that we like like

1294
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,320
thinking in hindsight, like just you know, if you're gonna

1295
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,000
ask me, like what would you want from a character

1296
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,199
like Death? Like would you want a character in a

1297
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:41,599
like in a comic book outfit fighting crime and kicking

1298
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:43,760
ass and they're just called Death and they just like

1299
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,760
it's like a rogue like power where they just like

1300
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:48,920
you know, like like this is basically what I wanted.

1301
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:55,039
It's it's like anybody read the book Thief back in

1302
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:59,599
the day or seeing the movie, basically the narrator is Death,

1303
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,679
and like I love that book. I it was one

1304
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:04,960
that like I feel like it just like surprised me

1305
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,039
reading it back in high school. And it's the same

1306
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,199
sort of idea of just like talking about like what

1307
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,079
death is. And I really really like seeing Audrey Plaza

1308
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:18,679
in that role here in these I'm like melting them together,

1309
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:22,239
I guess just the finale of this show, like when

1310
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,000
she arrives and as soon as soon as she's there,

1311
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,840
like Agatha is just like just like crying out to

1312
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
her and like I'm gonna hate you forever if you

1313
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:34,159
do this right now, even though like she's not murdering

1314
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,000
the child. It's just like she's here. Death is here,

1315
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,000
and this is what's gonna be happening. I just love

1316
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:43,239
all the all the symbolisms and everything around it. And yeah,

1317
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,920
going like fast forwarding to when she comes back for Billy,

1318
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,519
like as soon as he wakes up and he's just

1319
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,719
looking and just sees her standing there, I'm like, it's

1320
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:53,000
over for you. It's basically Norman Osborne up in the

1321
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:56,079
you know, up in the ceiling, same sort of idea.

1322
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:59,559
But I I just, yeah, I like chills so as

1323
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:01,199
that happen. And then of course it was like a

1324
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:03,519
super emotional scene of her kind of like waking up

1325
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:06,679
and him being there, and is I really I don't know.

1326
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,239
I thought it was interesting. I maybe it's just like

1327
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,960
a little seed that they threw in there of just death,

1328
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:14,039
like pointing to Billy to like get her to say

1329
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:16,920
or get him to say goodbye to Agatha, like I thought,

1330
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,800
I mean, Nicholas, Nicholas, Yeah, sorry, what did I say, Billy?

1331
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:22,599
Speaker 1: I was like, did I already?

1332
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: No?

1333
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. End credit they opened that door and

1334
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:26,239
she's out there.

1335
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: But it seemed interesting because it's it's not something that

1336
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,559
was necessary, especially for a character as neutral as what

1337
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:33,199
Death would be.

1338
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:36,519
Speaker 1: But she still loves for Atha though, right her heart.

1339
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think I think maybe I

1340
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,480
was hoping for a little bit more filling in the

1341
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,480
cracks of the history between Death and Agatha because because

1342
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,639
they didn't know each other, because I thought.

1343
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,719
Speaker 1: The seventeen one hundred flashback, that's when, oh, we're gonna

1344
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:54,559
get when she meets Death, and that's where it's like

1345
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:57,440
how this starts up, but she clearly already knew her.

1346
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,480
Like you said, it's a great scene, but I wanted

1347
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,679
a little more, and that's a storyline where it's like,

1348
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,679
I don't think we'll get anything more that Ever, I

1349
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:06,679
think this was the place unless it is literally just

1350
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:09,360
called Agatha season two and they just do that, which

1351
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,679
I'm fine with it, or Agatha and Billy whatever, but

1352
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:14,280
if it's them and other projects, I don't think we'll

1353
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,800
just always get referred back to, well they were a

1354
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,280
couple and that was it, you know.

1355
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we got them smooching, you know, she

1356
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,480
got the kiss of death here and.

1357
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,599
Speaker 1: The kiss of death more.

1358
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: In many ways, that was a fantastic scene, and I

1359
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,239
think it was just what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah,

1360
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,360
that was the last thing I was gonna add on

1361
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:35,800
was uh, maybe that is something that, like my overall

1362
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,719
score of the show might get hit a little bit.

1363
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,519
It is just because I wanted more of explanations between

1364
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:43,400
Egatha and death and really hoping that this is a

1365
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,760
character that does appear. I'm not saying I want this

1366
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,800
to be like the main villain of Avengers or anything,

1367
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,280
but like, I hope this is a character that pops

1368
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,400
in and out and just interacts with other people in

1369
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,639
our because you know, like she would have seen Tony

1370
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:01,199
Stark right, like she would have met Tony stars I imagine,

1371
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,119
like like she should have met all these people, So

1372
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:06,559
I hope there is significance. And also just having Audrey

1373
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:11,079
Plaza or Audrey Aubrey Plaza like in the role and

1374
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,400
just having you know the potential of her interacting with

1375
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,639
a lot of different actors that are in the MCU,

1376
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,519
both past and present. I think the possibility of that

1377
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:20,039
is really enticing and exciting.

1378
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: I think that the tough things we talked about this

1379
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:24,920
last week where it's like, yeah, you can't, I wants

1380
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:26,760
like that, but then you also can't have like every

1381
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,679
character that dies, Aubrey Plaza comes like, hey, I'm death.

1382
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: Like just makes out with them.

1383
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, every character. I think what I would want is

1384
01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:37,320
I was gonna say a what if episode, but not

1385
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
necessarily that I would love them to do, and I

1386
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,440
think it would have to be animated. But if they did,

1387
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:45,960
like a Marvel special presentation, it's animated. And if you're

1388
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,440
to take like Phase one to three and just pick

1389
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:51,760
I don't know, five to six characters and have an

1390
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,719
animated show of like her mini stories of her interacting again,

1391
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,360
it would be like a one shot done. I don't

1392
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,199
think you'd do it weekly because I don't think people

1393
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:03,000
wild tune in, but just like Halloween Special of Death meeting,

1394
01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:05,159
a Tony Stark meeting, even if you want to pick

1395
01:03:05,159 --> 01:03:08,079
like little characters like fucking I don't know. Like Jensen

1396
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:10,360
from Ironman one, how he inspired like he because he

1397
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,719
says that whole thing about like I'm going to remember

1398
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,400
he talks about he's gonna go see his family that

1399
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,440
whole movie and then he's like, Oh, I gotta get

1400
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,800
you out here because you're gonna die. You gotta see

1401
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,119
your family. I am gonna see my family stuff like

1402
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:22,159
that where it's like that's a minor character, and I'm

1403
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:24,360
sure I'm probably pitching the worst show tomorrow. Stud It's like,

1404
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,480
you want us to do a story in Jensen, but

1405
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,000
it's like, fuck yeah, like that story like him going

1406
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,000
to meet his family. Like I think there'd be great

1407
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:34,400
potential of certain characters, even if it's like a bigger

1408
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,199
one like a Natasha. I don't know if they would

1409
01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:38,639
ever touch Ireman, but I would take that, like certain characters,

1410
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:41,000
even like a villain, you know, take I don't take

1411
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,039
a kill monger. Take that, like think about like what

1412
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:45,280
that character goes to when they die, when they have

1413
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,800
this mission and everything, and it's like a very conflicted thing.

1414
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,519
Like I would love it a you know, forty five

1415
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:53,760
minute animated thing death interacting with five to six characters

1416
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,599
of the MSU that pass and just see what it

1417
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:57,880
would be. But I don't know if we get that.

1418
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,400
And the other point I want to bring before I

1419
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,679
forget is it's funny. We talked about this last week,

1420
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:03,599
how I was saying it in Infinny were the comic

1421
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:06,519
book that Thanos the whole time is trying to impress death.

1422
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,440
It felt like in some of the especially episode eight,

1423
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,639
there's many times where death is just like trying to

1424
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:15,239
impress Agatha, which is interesting because it's kind of like

1425
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:16,880
a flip of that character, even though she has so

1426
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,000
much power. But yeah, and I didn't really understand. That's

1427
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:21,760
I think I didn't really understand the deal they were

1428
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,599
making of I guess that the it just felt odd that, okay,

1429
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:31,079
so she would kill Tommy going in, Sorry, Billy going

1430
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:33,320
to someone's body is ruining the I can't remember what

1431
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,800
it was. Wasn't a sacred time, sacred bounce? It was right,

1432
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,800
that's what they said, right, I think she said sacred something. Remember,

1433
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:42,559
I'll say its sacred bounce. So again another sacred thing

1434
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:46,840
for the supernatural side. She says, Okay, Billy going into

1435
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,599
someone's body has like thrown off the sacred bounce, even

1436
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:51,800
though it's been that way for three years. But whatever,

1437
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:55,440
cool like, and then she's like, well, I can't kill

1438
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,559
him because he'll go elsewhere, so I need him to

1439
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,480
sacrifice himself. But I also need Tommy to get into

1440
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,039
a soul so that doesn't throw it off. That felt

1441
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,679
obviously nowhere near as convoluted and as bad as what

1442
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:07,360
we just talked about with then in this past week,

1443
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,840
but that just felt like, oh, so like you need

1444
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,639
him to give himself up, like and why would he

1445
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:14,559
ever do that? It just felt like because especially when

1446
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:16,960
she's like it's you or him, and it's like, well,

1447
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
he doesn't have to do anything. You literally told us

1448
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,400
if you kill him, he's just gonna go somewhere else.

1449
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,760
So I thought that whole deal thing with Billy's body

1450
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,800
and everything, I think they could have they could have

1451
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:27,840
cleaned that up a little bit.

1452
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: I I yeah, I was rather missy.

1453
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tay, what were your thoughts on uh death for

1454
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,880
our last two episodes here?

1455
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,119
Speaker 2: I was gonna just add on to your little your

1456
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:38,360
show of death and uh, I want to see the

1457
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,400
episode when death comes and meets this guy and that's

1458
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,960
just his reaction, you.

1459
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,239
Speaker 1: Know, Emperor Drogue for people about uh watching.

1460
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 3: But we've got a similar scene where Billy was in

1461
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,719
the shower and he wipes his hand on the mirror

1462
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,000
and like, roady, this guy's just You're.

1463
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,239
Speaker 1: Right, we did fucking get that, that roady scene and

1464
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,480
everything like that, but.

1465
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah in front of the mirror, right, Remember though, Kirkland,

1466
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:02,800
Emperor drog is still alive.

1467
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,239
Speaker 1: He got on that ship with the few the dozens

1468
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,000
of scrolls that were left. The gotta wait for season

1469
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:12,159
two of Death to get that to you know, see

1470
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:18,079
that going on even then, someone no, even then, I

1471
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:20,239
don't want to pitch this live on air because I

1472
01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:21,840
don't want someone to steal. But I just feel like,

1473
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,360
you know, even a movie or show about depth, imagine

1474
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,599
if you can like great political figures or famous people

1475
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:30,480
or celebrity like a fictitious version of when they die.

1476
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:33,719
Speaker 2: But I digress to film people that are not dead.

1477
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: Like real life, like really like imagine like okay, what

1478
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,000
did I'm trying to think of? Like JFK Let's on

1479
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,239
the head and like you get a character like Allreplaza.

1480
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,119
They're not gonna use the MCU death. I'm just saying,

1481
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:48,800
like you hire an actor death and they talk about

1482
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,000
like you get different decades of someone of importance dying.

1483
01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:56,480
They be balls into a Jesus portion of the film.

1484
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,559
But that's why that you know, somebody don't do that.

1485
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:01,719
Take this out so I can do it one day.

1486
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,320
But finally talk about death.

1487
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she was very, very scary, and I

1488
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,440
think Aubrey Plaza probably had a huge amount of fun

1489
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:16,519
playing this role her like a real look where she's

1490
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:18,800
got like this half of her face as a skull

1491
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,000
and the top faces like skin very cool, really really

1492
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:25,480
like it, and just how she does have this pre

1493
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:29,440
existing relationship obviously with Agatha, we've come to learn her relationship,

1494
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,920
but when she appears during the childbirth scene with Agatha,

1495
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,480
it almost feels like, Okay, yeah, they definitely have something

1496
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:40,800
going on here. That's even like who knows how long

1497
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,599
before this because when I got this like yeah, I

1498
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:46,639
hate you forever, that just implies like okay, then she's

1499
01:07:46,639 --> 01:07:51,360
definitely been with her for a while, which is interesting,

1500
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,639
and maybe death just took a liking to her. Well yeah,

1501
01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:57,000
I guess at this one she has killed a lot

1502
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,920
of witches. Maybe that's why death has taken a liking

1503
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,239
to her because it adds up. I guess when we're

1504
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,440
in them in the Witch's Road. I can't remember which trial,

1505
01:08:04,519 --> 01:08:06,360
but they talk about how death is like, yeah, you

1506
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,360
send me bodies, that's the deal, right, So there's obviously

1507
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,800
some kind of mutual agreement that they have there.

1508
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. So again, wish wish we got a

1509
01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:18,520
little bit more, but trying to think, is there anything

1510
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,399
we haven't touched upon Billy's Billy's parents, I don't know.

1511
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,680
It was weird to have that scene like you've been

1512
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,079
gone for twenty four hours explained and then never see

1513
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:27,439
them again.

1514
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: It's like, no consequence, we probably will never see those

1515
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:30,680
characters ever.

1516
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: No, like, don't even have that scene have him come

1517
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,600
home at night, he sneaks back in the house. It

1518
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,760
was just like, good for the actors, get some money.

1519
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,520
Speaker 2: But it was just like I was like confused on

1520
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,439
who these characters were.

1521
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 3: At first.

1522
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,079
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, he is like parents, That's okay, yeah.

1523
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: Other parents, yeah, so, but yeah, any anywhere else to go?

1524
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,920
I'm trying to think if there was something we haven't

1525
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:55,199
touched upon yet. Talked about the Witch's Road being fake,

1526
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:57,479
talked about Billy. Oh, that's when they want to point

1527
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,920
out that Tear said what I love about the Flipper

1528
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:02,039
and why I can't wait to watch this is We

1529
01:09:02,079 --> 01:09:04,359
didn't know for sure, but we were like this is

1530
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:06,880
again talking about theories. When we started Wanavision, We're like,

1531
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:09,800
this is all in Wanda's head or she's doing something right.

1532
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,800
We had that theory, we just didn't know how exactly.

1533
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,319
It happened. That's where I loved, like we almost got

1534
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,159
to be like a Westview person as a viewer, to

1535
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:21,159
experience what it would be like to be in a

1536
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:25,239
reality shifting spell or make believe world and not know

1537
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,119
it till the very end. Even Billy, right, like even Wanda,

1538
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:31,159
she at first didn't realize what was going on, and

1539
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:33,279
then she realized it and wanted to keep it going

1540
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:35,800
on the fasade right, this whole out of grief. She

1541
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,560
created this world and vision the kids. But Billy, he

1542
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,960
like accidentally did this just kind of out of force

1543
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,119
and nature and like just willing to, like I want

1544
01:09:43,119 --> 01:09:45,680
my brother back, and here's a way. So I did

1545
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,720
like the kind of juxtaposition of wanavision. You kind of

1546
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,239
know episode one or two some things off right where

1547
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,399
this you don't know to the last two episodes that

1548
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:57,439
something was really off. So again that's a kudos to

1549
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,960
the twist. But I just like the way of them

1550
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,760
not tell telling us that earlier, because you get to

1551
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,239
really feel like this whole time was you know, you

1552
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:07,119
were in it, and the Witch's Road was just completely

1553
01:10:07,119 --> 01:10:08,760
made up. I wish again that he may would have

1554
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,840
imagined some cooler places other than like the the Housewives

1555
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,399
thing and the band, but you know that's okay, whatever's

1556
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,119
in your room. And I also like now too. It

1557
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:18,159
makes the end credits even better because all those things

1558
01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:21,600
when it's like why are they showing like movie clips

1559
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,880
of different witch like the Craft and snow White, It's like, well,

1560
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,159
that's it's exactly like his mom in the sense of

1561
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:30,319
remember she based this reality off of Wanta vision off

1562
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:33,520
of comedies. He's basing this off of like horror films

1563
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,279
and Witchcraft. So again, very very fun way to do it.

1564
01:10:37,359 --> 01:10:43,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, it kind of chuckled when Billy is doing

1565
01:10:43,319 --> 01:10:45,840
like his little ritual thing like on the door of

1566
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,439
the of the Richest Road and then he does like

1567
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,039
basically like the headstone for who fell, you know, upon

1568
01:10:52,079 --> 01:10:55,520
the road and a confirmation Sharon Davies like did die.

1569
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,720
I feel like part of me still was like, ah,

1570
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,640
she probably like you know, probably got sent by to

1571
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,039
Wesbew or something like they really just killed this like

1572
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,680
poor lady on this, which yeah she did and Billy

1573
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,640
did it, so that's even crazier.

1574
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and even like I guess this the Salem

1575
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,359
seven or six, they were real, right, I guess right, Yeah,

1576
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:20,319
he didn't make those they just got killed.

1577
01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: By that was deaths right. That made comment to that

1578
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,279
of like, yeah, she killed the Salem seven with her, But.

1579
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:27,359
Speaker 1: Then I guess those imaginary swords that they die by

1580
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,039
are real that he imagines.

1581
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:32,039
Speaker 2: So and you know, we talked about it last week, Travis,

1582
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:34,439
like even like having her bring up the Salem Seven

1583
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,119
again reminded me of how like lackluster the Salem Seven

1584
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:42,000
were overall in the show. I don't know if I

1585
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:44,520
want to say, like I wish they weren't in the show,

1586
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,760
because I did enjoy like the scary moments that they

1587
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,359
were in and the early portions of the series, But.

1588
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, just having fairy Knights of Rhenish.

1589
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 2: Have a dumber name, you know, for a dumber villain,

1590
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,239
like it sounds bad ass. It's like a Sinister six

1591
01:11:57,319 --> 01:11:58,119
the Salem seven.

1592
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, Saints friend where they look cool, some cool

1593
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,680
potential button not they were just some bad guys on

1594
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,399
the side. So but I think that I think that's

1595
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,439
all the majority of things. Luckily, we will talk about

1596
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,000
the show again when we do the the or just

1597
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:15,760
the Marvel Golden gigs, so we'll get Dylan's thoughts, and

1598
01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:18,439
I don't know if I rewatch it, but I would

1599
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,119
like to before even some of it. But I think

1600
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,279
that's all her thoughts I have for Agatha.

1601
01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:30,079
Speaker 2: I just wanted to double down on Aubrey Plaza's performance

1602
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:33,199
when she's really like in the death Zone, like when

1603
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:37,239
she has her clash with with Agatha, and she's just

1604
01:12:37,319 --> 01:12:40,479
like being very like she's really just chewing the scenery

1605
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,720
and being like really loud. She's doing like that witch

1606
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,159
cackle to kind of just taunt her. I really just

1607
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,079
it's like, okay, yeah, she's she's swinging up for the

1608
01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:50,199
fences here. I feel like the background I kind of

1609
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:52,319
wish she wasn't in front of just like the big storm.

1610
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,720
It's just it's screen screen. Yeah, it felt like it

1611
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,920
took me out of it a little bit, but she

1612
01:12:58,279 --> 01:12:59,239
was fantastic there.

1613
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,319
Speaker 1: Poor West. Few people there're just like fuck this again, Like.

1614
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,359
Speaker 2: The Willem Dafoe meme just up to the skies.

1615
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: They even had a character being like is what happening again?

1616
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,960
And they guess maybe it's like fuck what? And then

1617
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,239
even then like Billy walks up. Yeah, like I would

1618
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,840
be out of like Billy walks out all hooded. Agatha

1619
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,560
is buried in the backyard, which I wonder, like, does

1620
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,439
Ralph Boner get his house back now that Agatha is dead?

1621
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:25,119
Speaker 2: It was his house, right, I feel like he would

1622
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:25,479
have moved.

1623
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,079
Speaker 1: He did, but like his stuff's still there, his Boner

1624
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:32,000
family ringion shirts and everything. So but yeah, I don't

1625
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,960
think he'd go back. He's probably playing it smart. So

1626
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,800
ay there anything from you? No?

1627
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 3: I got nothing?

1628
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you can start off by what would you

1629
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,640
uh rate this bad point? Now you've seen all nine episodes.

1630
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am going to go with a good hearty

1631
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,039
I'll go eight out of ten. It's not perfect, and

1632
01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:59,279
I have to put a con down on the fact

1633
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:01,520
that some of those try else felt a little bit repetitive,

1634
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,600
even though in the end it's just all a simulation theory,

1635
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,640
just because of what Billy season is a room and

1636
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,159
the different objects that he associates affiliates with.

1637
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: But as the writers, you could you could put anything

1638
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,520
in that room. That's absolutely don't give that Philly is

1639
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,159
not a real person that put up his room. The

1640
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:20,119
writers are like, oh, I guess we got to put

1641
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:22,199
that in there. Like, no, they could have put any thing.

1642
01:14:22,119 --> 01:14:27,239
Speaker 3: In there, you could do anything. So that's where I'm

1643
01:14:27,239 --> 01:14:29,199
gonna put a couple of cons down. But other than that,

1644
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:31,119
I liked it a lot more than I thought I would.

1645
01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:34,119
And maybe I'm biased because it's spooky season right now

1646
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:38,359
and the Halloween vibes are a peak. So yeah, I

1647
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:40,800
think that this is definitely a show that people should watch.

1648
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,279
It's it's a good time and you're gonna have a

1649
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:43,600
lot of fun with it, and it's just nice to

1650
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,039
have this kind of like fresh different approach and take

1651
01:14:46,079 --> 01:14:51,720
to to your classic Marvel superheroes and uh like anti

1652
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,720
heroes and whatnot. It's just it's a it's a really

1653
01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:56,600
fun different approach to it, and I like that. I

1654
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,000
hope that we get more magic monsters and all that

1655
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:02,359
in the MCU. I know, with Blade being delayed and

1656
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,199
no Ghostrider yet, it's feeling hopeless.

1657
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:08,039
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could be wrong, because what we got

1658
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:13,239
what would be the supernatural stuff this like Wanavision moonm Okay,

1659
01:15:13,359 --> 01:15:17,880
I consider Moonnight, uh.

1660
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: Even just because of the undead Mummy. That's why I

1661
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,319
would give it.

1662
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I would still not put it there.

1663
01:15:22,039 --> 01:15:24,560
I think there's isms, but I would say they failed

1664
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,760
on that part, but like other than that, like Multiverse

1665
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,479
of Madness, this wear off by night. I feel like

1666
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,479
for the most part, at least for myself, the supernatural

1667
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,279
monster stuff they've done has been in the wind category.

1668
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:39,319
So I hope that continues, you know, m Kirkman.

1669
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: I get to remind myself of the marks I'm taking away.

1670
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:49,560
I know I'm very leaning eight point five, but I

1671
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,039
feel like I'm gonna have to boost it to eight

1672
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:53,880
point seven five at least, like like not to the

1673
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,760
nine because of you know, Salem seven and maybe missing

1674
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,760
out on some potential good juice of between Agathan and Death.

1675
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,800
I liked what we got, but I wanted more because

1676
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:09,079
it was so good. But yeah, I think like the performances,

1677
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,159
especially from Catherine Hawn and like didn't really talk about

1678
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:15,279
her like performance wise a lot in this episode maybe

1679
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:17,880
the last couple, but like she's just she is just

1680
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,399
a knock out of the park every single episode.

1681
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,039
Speaker 1: Like she was really fazy too man, Like she just delivered.

1682
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:26,039
You get to see every version of her like funny,

1683
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:29,560
a little romantic, serious, scared, sad.

1684
01:16:29,359 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like where is a mom like like like

1685
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,560
with Nick, Like I just love those moments she she

1686
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:38,960
was acting as like a vulnerable mother in those scenes,

1687
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,800
and like she even even when she's staring down death

1688
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,079
and like you got the dried up tears in her eyes.

1689
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:46,399
I think that might have been at the start of

1690
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:48,439
the episode episode I don't know eight or and I

1691
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,199
can't remember now they're all mixed together. But I just

1692
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:54,840
I love the range that she showed throughout this entire series.

1693
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,039
And I felt like any moments that it seemed like

1694
01:16:57,079 --> 01:16:58,880
she was on the ropes or like a little bit

1695
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,920
more on her back foot, she would just come in

1696
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,680
with that like Agatha Harkness, like charisma and like confidence

1697
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,000
in herself, and like, I just I just love seeing

1698
01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:10,359
her perform. And uh yeah, I'm a big fan Catherine.

1699
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:13,960
She's fantastic. But yeah, eight point seventy five so definitely

1700
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,039
definitely like better than I would have expected coming in

1701
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:18,720
to the show. I think I would have hoped for

1702
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,960
like at least a seven, you know, just to enjoy it.

1703
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,680
So I'm glad that it it surpassed that in many ways.

1704
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,159
And uh, yeah, you have us some more exciting trials

1705
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:31,039
please next time. Yeah, but that's on teen, you know,

1706
01:17:31,079 --> 01:17:32,399
that's on Billy. That's his fault.

1707
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Billy fucking you better get a better

1708
01:17:35,319 --> 01:17:41,279
room next season, you know. So yeah, I I think

1709
01:17:41,279 --> 01:17:42,920
I'll go in the middle of an eight point five.

1710
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,680
I could be with Kirkland on an eight point seventy five.

1711
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,159
I need to stew a little bit more. Nine feels

1712
01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:51,199
like nine is like in a different class. And I

1713
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:53,439
think there is some episodes where it is like God,

1714
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,079
and I don't Here's one thing. I don't think there

1715
01:17:55,119 --> 01:17:58,079
was any episode that was bad. I think there's episodes

1716
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:00,600
that was varying degrees of quality, but there was one

1717
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,520
where it's okay, uh oh, a little worried, let's see

1718
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,079
what happens. So yeah, that's I'm gonna go eight point

1719
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:08,520
five for now. But honestly, way low wait or way

1720
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,800
higher than I thought. Like even when I said it

1721
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,479
starting time, like that's probably seven. So for just even

1722
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,159
two episodes for me to make it go up a

1723
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,680
whole one point five is a lot. And even when

1724
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,680
the show started, I thought I was looking at like hopefully,

1725
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,119
I was hoping for a six, you know, And even

1726
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:25,880
in some of the trailers and some of the marketing,

1727
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,039
it's like, eh, I'm really worried, but no, I think

1728
01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:30,600
they they delivered very well, and that's that's what I mean,

1729
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,119
like to me, if MCU stuff can get back just

1730
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:36,039
even being seven, like, of course, I'm sure there could

1731
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:37,840
be some stinkers, but I guess we for a while

1732
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,560
it didn't have any stinkers for like a good phase

1733
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,399
one to three. But like, I'm fine with seven out

1734
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,560
of ten stuff that's good quality stuff. So if it's

1735
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,119
anything higher than that, we're lucky. Obviously can't even get

1736
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:49,640
things to be call like guaranteed to be like a

1737
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,319
ten or something, but eight point five, I'm very happy.

1738
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,399
Like we said Catherine haun like, and that's the thing

1739
01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:57,000
I thought, Okay, this series might be ending up being fine,

1740
01:18:57,079 --> 01:18:59,640
but just because she's so good, I'll enjoy it. But

1741
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:03,840
to be double where she you know, the show was

1742
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,439
more than fine. She was great. And now there's things

1743
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,199
like when we talk about Young Avengers, it's like, Okay,

1744
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:10,279
I am more excited to see a billy in there

1745
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:13,239
and stuff. So yeah, I'm very excited to see where

1746
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:15,279
we could go. But I hope that the follow up

1747
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,640
is there. And like I said, at some point in

1748
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,840
this episode, it's not four years later and we're like, oh,

1749
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,800
we've heard nothing about this, and the hypes is dad

1750
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,279
and it said, well we've been past that. But no,

1751
01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:26,159
I was very surprised, and like I said, I'm surprised.

1752
01:19:26,199 --> 01:19:28,000
It's like a top twenty five project for me, so

1753
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,960
very very happy with how this all turned out, because

1754
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,079
I feel like there's a there's a multiverse of this

1755
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:37,119
review where we're just sitting here every week and like

1756
01:19:37,119 --> 01:19:39,560
oh fucking Agatha or like I don't care if people

1757
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,600
might come mad at me saying it. That's Acolyte Aco

1758
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,399
lite to me is every week I'm just like, fuck, man,

1759
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,239
like what are we doing here? What? There's this problem?

1760
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:47,840
This problems like that happened this year to a show

1761
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,960
then or ago Echo not so much because that was

1762
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,520
a binge, so it just like all together. But we

1763
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,119
were there at Acolte had been very excited and for

1764
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:59,680
me just like every week being disappointed, where this is

1765
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,760
like very pleasant surprise.

1766
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,239
Speaker 2: So well got it. You know, there's still some still

1767
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:07,520
some gold nuggets in those MCU minds.

1768
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we did lie. We said at the beginnings,

1769
01:20:10,359 --> 01:20:11,760
this is the end the MCU for the year. I

1770
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,199
guess technically it is because they did announce that what

1771
01:20:14,279 --> 01:20:16,920
off Season three is going to drop in December, but

1772
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,680
they're doing the thing where there's gonna be one a day,

1773
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,439
so I think that I won't be here for that,

1774
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,239
but I think the boys will probably review when it's

1775
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:24,479
all together, and I don't think it'll be done till January.

1776
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,079
So technically this is it for the MCU and stuff,

1777
01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:30,520
but we got newscasts in the future some shot'll tell about,

1778
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,720
like those what if trailers and stuff like that Friend

1779
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:37,239
the Neighborhood Spider Man and everything, so until then it

1780
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,760
will not be boring, but