WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.320 Welcome to spacing Out with BB and Jason this week 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:10.960 covering Foundation season three, episode five, where Tyrants spend Eternity. 3 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:16.800 Welcome to Spacey Now. 4 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.839 I'm Babe and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the 5 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:25.320 Apple TV SI Fi series Foundation, one episode at a time, 6 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:27.839 and we're trying to keep up with season three as 7 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:30.679 it releases every week, and we've done pretty good so far, 8 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.479 if I might say so. In this episode, Day disappears 9 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:38.359 into Micagen on New Terminus. Captain Pritcher is berated by 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.159 Mayor Endeber for his meeting with the Mule and is imprisoned. 11 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.439 Torren Malow's ship returns to the planet Haven, where it 12 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.880 crashes after being targeted by planetary defenses. Mallow and his 13 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.880 party are rescued by his uncle Randu. Beta and Randu 14 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.159 discuss the effects of Magnifico's music and the role this 15 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.399 could play and allowing the Trader faction to control the Foundation. 16 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:01.920 Gale and Dawn traveled to Clarion's station, where Don Blackmail 17 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:04.000 is a local leader. Terrasts in order to sway the 18 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.760 votes for imperial enclosure of Kalgan. The Imperial Armada encloses Kalgan, 19 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:12.040 but the Mules already left, and the unleashes kalgan Star's 20 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.079 power to destroy the planet and the armada down forces 21 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:16.760 Gail to reveal that he was set up for the 22 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:19.719 Enclosure to fail. Donson's a message to us before he's 23 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.040 attacked by a vengeful Terrists can stuck out of an 24 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:27.280 airlock in the space, and then Demrseau arrives at Gale Ship. 25 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.879 Crazy five check. 26 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:34.599 Did we like the episode overall? 27 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.640 We are at the halfway point of the season, so 28 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:39.120 how does episode five state? 29 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:45.959 It's very good, it's very interesting, things are moving. I 30 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.480 feel like we're not stuck in one story in particular. 31 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.200 We're getting a little bit of everything, and. 32 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.599 It's almost like they can't fit all the stories into 33 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:55.439 every episode. 34 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.519 Yeah, Like I was gonna say, like some of it 35 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.799 felt like it didn't get a time, Like we got 36 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.599 a little taste, but it's like we could have expanded 37 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:10.960 more on that. But it's it's coming together pretty well. 38 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.439 I like it a lot. I'm excited for the next 39 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.879 episode next week, and I don't know, I'm just like 40 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.159 really enjoying the show right now. 41 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:24.439 Yeah, definitely, every episode we're watching this season, Like when 42 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.280 it ends, I'm just like, oh damn, has it already 43 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.000 been an hour? Because I just want to keep seeing 44 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:30.479 for each of these arts is going. 45 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.919 It doesn't feel like an hour long show right now, 46 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.280 which is good because it used to feel. 47 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.680 Like awfully long. Yeah, but it is holding up really well. 48 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.159 Trivia time, What facts or news could we uncover for 49 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:48.719 where Tyrant's spend Eternity? 50 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:53.400 This was Foundation season three, episode five, Where Tyrants Spend Eternity. 51 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.159 This originally aired on August eighth, twenty twenty five. Written 52 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.520 by Caitlin Parrish and lay Dana Jack and directed by 53 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:04.520 Christopher J. Byrne, who was a director who's worked on 54 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.800 Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek's Strange New Worlds as 55 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.120 well as American Gods. He's also going to be up 56 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.360 directing some of the upcoming Marvel show Vision Quest, which 57 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.800 I believe is a kind of a continuation of Wanda 58 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:20.319 Vision for Vision, and he's also worked as a composer 59 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:24.360 for TV shows. So there was an interview with Dusk 60 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.599 actor Terrence Mann that has him stating Dusk, the Mersal 61 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.080 and the other Kleons for that matter, are desperately clinging 62 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.759 on and now things have occurred that forced him to 63 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:36.319 make really hard toys about who's going to live, who's 64 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.759 going to die, and what's ultimately going to save the empire, 65 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:42.000 and then he hints that the black Hole Gun might 66 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.800 be taken for a ride or too very soon, which is, 67 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.240 you know, no surprise since they set that up early 68 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.960 in the season, and you know. 69 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.840 Well, I was, I feel like everybody has like a 70 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.759 planet killing machine. Now what. 71 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.439 Yeah, there's no word yet on there being a season four. 72 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.039 I just wanted to check in on that, but we 73 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.439 do know that if it does get approved for a 74 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.919 fourth season, it's going to be a whole new like 75 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.879 writing staff and showrunner. So that's weird. Yeah, that's really weird. 76 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.319 But I'm also like, I'm trying to gauge like where 77 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.920 this season is going, like if they're going to wrap 78 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:25.079 up the Gail storyline, the Mule storyline and uh huh and. 79 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.240 Start a new because I mean they can do that. 80 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.199 That's the nice thing about like jumping through time and 81 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.360 space is that you can basically start a new show 82 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:39.839 that's got like the same foundation, but a new storyline, 83 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:44.000 a new tragic event, a new thing that moves things forward. 84 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.160 Yeah, I mean, it's it's also possible, like they jump 85 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.160 ahead and leave you know, all these characters behind, as 86 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.199 the book did when they when they started writing sequels 87 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.759 in the eighties. But yeah, I don't know. Originally I 88 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:58.639 thought like, oh, it might take a couple of seasons 89 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:01.480 to get through the Mule storyline. But the foot is 90 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:02.839 on the accelerator pretty hard. 91 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:09.920 Yeah, deep space dive. Let's break down some of our 92 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.199 thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts with 93 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.680 us through email or social media. We may use your 94 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:18.639 comments on an upcoming episode. 95 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:24.319 This episode starts off with a day heading into Misogen Micagen. 96 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:26.120 I always say that wrong, because that's how I said 97 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.000 it when I was reading the books. In my head, 98 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.199 I said, he is in the Micagen and it has 99 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.199 kind of like a drawn Blade Runner type feel to it. 100 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.079 Yeah, very dystopian future. 101 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.639 Yeah, so I'm really curious how they're going to portray 102 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.160 that that place. That's all we see of him. 103 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:45.240 Yeah, that's what. 104 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.439 Like I said, we saw little tidbits of some of them, 105 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.279 and I'm like, oh, man, I wish we would have 106 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:50.920 seen more. 107 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.920 Yeah, So it feels like they need this episode to 108 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.879 be kind of the turning point with Don and Gale. Yeah, 109 00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.439 and We're going to pick up on some of these 110 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:03.959 other stories lines hopefully next episode. Pond Precher was also 111 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:04.879 kind of in that boat. 112 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.920 He wow jailed but naked. 113 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.360 We were just talking about how he found every opportunity 114 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:14.959 to take his shirt off. Now he takes it all off. Yep, 115 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.959 Holy moly, look at those buns. There's some buns that's 116 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:20.480 steel if I ever seen some. 117 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.079 And they didn't just flash him once. They cut back 118 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.560 to them a couple of times, and they even. 119 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:26.680 Like scanned his butthole. 120 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:35.120 That was unnecessary, But honestly, very like I think part 121 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.800 of like intake for inmates things that we don't think 122 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:44.319 about as people who engage in the in the carcero system. 123 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.240 We don't think about what you have to go through 124 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.800 to go in to prison and jail. And one of 125 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.040 those things is like they check your head. It looks 126 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.000 like they check your brain in this place, and then 127 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.800 they check your butthole. At least they don't put fingers 128 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:00.399 in there. 129 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.079 Yeah, it's just a scam. 130 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.560 And that's the last thing they do too, So it's 131 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.680 not like they went from the butt to the mouse, 132 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.160 like you know how sometimes people. 133 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.040 You never go ask to mouth. 134 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:17.079 I don't think they know that he has the psychic. 135 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:22.000 Powers though no, they definitely do. I was ready for it, well, 136 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.519 and I was ready for him to use them. I 137 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:27.439 was ready for him to do like a like a 138 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.720 matrix style like brain wave and he like knocks everybody 139 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:35.560 out like Gail did and just walks away naked. But 140 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.079 maybe this is part of the plan. 141 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:38.600 I don't know. I don't think it is. 142 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:39.959 I don't know what he's waiting for. 143 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.399 And then I want to know what's the significance of 144 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.279 that necklace that he had, because it was but ugly. 145 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.399 It's like an ugly piece of leather. 146 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.680 Or steel or something. What what is? 147 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.680 And and then it was like a it felt like 148 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:59.199 a symbolic moment when his protege took it off, So 149 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.120 like I wish I knew the backstory to that before. 150 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:05.639 Yeah, I don't know, and it seemed weird. They like 151 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.439 include that was the like an afterthought, almost like oh, yeah, 152 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:10.680 he has this thing on him. 153 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.199 Yeah, they took every inch of clothing off of him, 154 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:15.399 and then yeah. 155 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:20.000 Like you scan his butthole before you remove the jewelry 156 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:20.399 from him? 157 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:22.639 You scanned his. 158 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.680 Oh man, that was too much and we needed a 159 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:29.399 little humor. 160 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.559 That was that's all the really is to say about him. 161 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.399 I guess, yeah, I mean there's a lot there. 162 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.559 Should we jump to the Mallows? Yeah? 163 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.159 I was thinking about the Mallows and how like they 164 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:48.720 barely made it out of their live and apparently the 165 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.759 boy Mallow was like, I know where we have to 166 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:53.600 go when I don't want to go, and it's to 167 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:54.919 his ancestral lands. 168 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.600 Yeah. So that's where the Traders are headquartered. 169 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:02.639 And they're very like proud of their history and their background. 170 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.279 And I'm like, I don't get it. I don't get it. 171 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:11.039 They're like, no, no, no, we're traders, we're innovators, we're capitalists. 172 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.320 They believe they're the strength of the Foundation. Yeah, and 173 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.039 they're apparently consider themselves to be in a I guess 174 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:20.440 in conflict with the Foundation. 175 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.200 Yeah, they're like rivals. I wonder if it's a rivalry 176 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.559 where only one of the parties is like in a 177 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.600 rivalry or what, And like how would they react if 178 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.559 they found out there's a second Foundation? 179 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.840 They'd be like, well, where's the second Traders Union? 180 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:35.120 Her? 181 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:36.639 But I don't know. 182 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:41.440 I thought it was interesting that like the girl Mallow 183 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.799 was like trying to convince that guy to go with them, 184 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.480 and like determinus, I don't know what they're doing in 185 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.960 Terminus though, they're gonna meet with who's in terminus, that's 186 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.440 the Foundation, right, Yeah, so they want to go to 187 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.240 the Foundation to take this guy, this musician with very 188 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.639 big power. And I wonder if the Mules on their 189 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.039 son at all about that. 190 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.679 We don't know. Is all we really hear from the 191 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.639 Mule other than the enclosure thing is that he is 192 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.039 he wants the he wants the musician back. Yeah, yeah, 193 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:14.440 that's that word is out there. 194 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:15.919 Yeah. 195 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:20.360 And so I think like the Foundation and the Empire 196 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.639 are very interested to speak to this musician and get 197 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.559 more intel on what's up. And I can't believe Gail 198 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:32.120 like totally threw baby Dawn under the bus like that, 199 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:33.679 she totally played him. 200 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.120 And then she done the pawn. 201 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:40.320 Oh every time that poor kid, it's usually a woman too. 202 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:41.720 Oh my god. 203 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.240 And then he might have died. We don't know what 204 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.039 happened to him. Maybe Drumosol is going to rescue him. 205 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.759 Yeah, I don't know. I so I had like a 206 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:51.919 little bit of this episode spoiled for me just when 207 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.480 I was trying to prepare for the episode. And I 208 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.159 was under the impression that he was going to die 209 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.080 at the end, but watching it, like there's a chance 210 00:10:59.159 --> 00:10:59.919 he's in a suit. 211 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.720 Yeah, he's in a suit, and Remasol's right there looking 212 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.480 for him and his little antibodies. 213 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.960 Yeah, he still has his Nannie. 214 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.120 So I don't know, man, I don't know. 215 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.120 Yeah, Gale and Down just so they were starting to 216 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:15.720 work together. 217 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.399 No, I think I feel like there was a lot 218 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.120 of tension between Gale and Dawn, especially after he found 219 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.840 out that she has mental abilities. You could tell him 220 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.399 like withdrawing from her. 221 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:29.279 Yeah, he's very uncomfortable. 222 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.639 Yeah, so and then to find out that she played 223 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:38.679 you like and then Homeboy was like he killed somebody's mistress. Like, 224 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.519 I can't put I can't pin down down with like 225 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.480 what he's doing. He sent a message to Dusk, which 226 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.480 is kind of nice. He's like, hey, brother, like, I 227 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:52.799 hope you're doing well. I did what I had to do. 228 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:55.840 I'm trying to change the world. And then he like 229 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.799 leads he goes and manipulates this man who has a 230 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:04.039 family on the planet that he's trying to quarantine. And 231 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.600 that's all he's trying to do is quarantine the planet. 232 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:10.360 Like basically like write an embargo, like trying to keep 233 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.720 everybody in and now no movement. I don't know why 234 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.320 you can't take his family out before that. 235 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.679 Though, I don't know. Well, I think he's been having 236 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.559 trouble trying to get them off the planet already because 237 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:24.799 of the mule being there. Yeah. 238 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.879 I don't know what's going on with Don. He's just 239 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.720 kind of wild card right now, and I'm hoping he 240 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:33.200 finds like he's able to stay alive. 241 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.879 Yeah, I mean, it would be more interesting to have 242 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:40.799 him alive, yeah, than just like Demersal decanting another one of. 243 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:44.440 Them, Yeah, and Demerzal finding Gail and she's like, you 244 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:46.080 look well for three hundred years? 245 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.759 Yeah, I mean I guess they must have shared screen 246 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.039 time in like the very first episode. Yeah, they've seen 247 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.120 each other, but yeah, they're not characters that we've seen 248 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.799 together in a really long time. Yeah, which is I 249 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.559 think kind of an exciting thing about this seasons that 250 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.399 we're mixing up some of these characters more. 251 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:06.039 I feel like Gail should be like, you look well too, bitch, 252 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:08.960 how do you stay so preserved? Because does Gail know 253 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:10.440 that Demersal is a robot? 254 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:16.720 Maybe because she knows that Demersal is still around because 255 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:19.840 she's talking to Don and talked about her having the 256 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:20.720 prime radiant. 257 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:22.519 Yeah, so she might know. 258 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.879 You must know, unless they think she's like clean on 259 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.879 where she gets recanted every year or whatever, I don't know. 260 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.399 Yeah, but I feel like the Second Foundation might have 261 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.600 some people around the palace as well. 262 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.320 Yeah, they have people everywhere. 263 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.000 I was surprised when they landed on that planet that 264 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.000 they had somebody in like immigration checking their papers. And 265 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.919 I did like that trick where she looked like Don 266 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.879 and then she made everybody fall asleep. That was kind 267 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.559 of cool. And then when she admitted that she's like 268 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.120 to be honest, I don't know if I'm mannipulated you 269 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:58.440 or not. 270 00:13:58.600 --> 00:13:59.320 It's hard to tell. 271 00:13:59.519 --> 00:13:59.799 I don't know. 272 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.960 She had to say that, yeah. 273 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.519 That's a little too honest right before this mission. 274 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.799 Yeah, and he like and she totally used him and 275 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:12.279 made like I understand the goal was to like make 276 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.080 Empire weak, which I think she succeeded, but damn, at 277 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.039 what cost? She killed a whole planet. That doesn't make 278 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:23.279 her better than Empire. That's a planet for planet. They 279 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:24.799 have the same death toll. 280 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:29.200 Now, Yeah, she's manipulating on like a galactic scale. 281 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:30.759 Now, yeah, I don't know. 282 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.320 If I was done, I'd rather die than have to 283 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:36.440 face the consequences of being that empire, you know, being 284 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.360 the one who pulled the trigger on that one being 285 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:42.039 like oops, but it kind of tolls you, Like, Yeah, guys, 286 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.559 the mule is like, seriously a bad guy. Look at 287 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:47.960 what he's capable of. And if we would have done 288 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.399 this when I wanted you to do it, like two 289 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.759 weeks ago, we would have got his ass. 290 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.840 Yeah, but it sucks that he like made that big 291 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.879 speech about the failures of the previous as empires. 292 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.919 Yeah, just kind of highlighting that you're another failure friend. 293 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:06.519 Yikes. 294 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.320 We know how the last enclosure went, and now this. 295 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:14.519 One they're gonna make enclosures, I legals, Yeah, forever, no 296 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:17.279 empire will ever do an enclosure ever again. 297 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.519 Now they have continued to mention salv War throughout the show, 298 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.799 and now we know that she has a zygote that 299 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:26.960 is being kept on the ship. 300 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:28.360 That was weird. 301 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.039 Yeah, why would you keep them on a ship? Why 302 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.639 wouldn't you keep them at home, like where they're safe 303 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.279 and they're secret in your secret planet instead of on 304 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.679 a ship where you're traveling and getting shot at and chased. 305 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:41.519 I don't know. 306 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.639 I feel like I would keep my unborn babies in 307 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:48.919 a freezer at home instead of in my car. You know, yeah, 308 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:50.639 what if my car got hijacked. 309 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.480 That's a fair point. But I guess like the ship 310 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.559 with salv Wars, it was just like keeping it. 311 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.519 But the zygote is in salve war. That's salve warss 312 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:06.320 unborn sisters. Well not even A zygot is a clump 313 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.879 of cells that comes together when an ovum and an 314 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:15.600 or an egg meets a sperm cell successfully and it 315 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:20.879 like like it duplicates and creates a cluster of cells. 316 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.720 So it's not like she has like a little fetus. 317 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:27.440 She just has like cell clumps that have her DNA 318 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.240 and RJ or whatever his name was her. And like, 319 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.360 as she told her current boyfriend about the zygoats, does 320 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:40.440 he know that her other her baby daddy still has 321 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.080 like prime real estate taken up in her ship. Is 322 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:45.600 he going to be like, well, I want to make 323 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.080 aseye goo too, Like I don't know, like how does 324 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.799 that work with the reproductive systems? Because did they take 325 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:00.440 all of her eggs to create these like babies or 326 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.759 does she still have some viable eggs that she could 327 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:06.079 make on her own? Does she still get a period? 328 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.200 How do periods work when you're frozen? They must only 329 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:13.319 come down whenever you're like awake, right, I wonder how 330 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.799 that works. Nobody's explained this. They need to explain this. 331 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.920 We need to know about Gail's periods. 332 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:20.480 What are you looking up? Hello? 333 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:25.680 I'm trying to understand. I thought that the zygoat was 334 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:27.720 like Salvar's child. 335 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.079 Why she never preserved her eggs? 336 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:30.599 Did she? 337 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.400 The only one that ever had a zygoat? Was freaking 338 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.079 Gail when they were getting ready to go to the 339 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.720 First Foundation, And I thought Salvar gave. 340 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:39.119 Them to her? 341 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.720 No, she says it as it's Salvar's zygoat. Oh okay, 342 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:47.640 so that's Gail's grand baby. Oh so wh whose sperm? 343 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:48.000 Is that? 344 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:50.960 Probably her blue eyed boyfriend? 345 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.640 When did she have time to do all that? Doesn't 346 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.079 she sleep for three hundred years and wake up and 347 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:01.119 find a fake blue eyed boyfriend? The timelins before all that, 348 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.480 This timeline's not adding up. You can't just spring a 349 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.000 zygo out of nowhere. Okay, that's that's got to be 350 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:09.759 a procedure. What's it say? 351 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.599 There's people speculating that could be a return of salvar 352 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:15.119 through this. 353 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:16.319 That's weird. 354 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.519 I don't like that they're basically saying this is like 355 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.920 a clone. But is that it's like each zygote is individual, 356 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.960 unless there's like twin zygotes or whatever, but even then 357 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.720 they're still independent people. 358 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.720 I don't know. I think the science is mushy and unclear. 359 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.799 Yeah, I don't know. I think that's definitely something that's 360 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.119 going to come back and we'll get some answers on it, 361 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.799 because yeah, it's very just drop that there for you know, 362 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:42.839 a random conversation. 363 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:47.400 Well, it's fucking don like like uh looking around, like 364 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:51.559 finding shit and like touching everything, like leave shit alone 365 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.559 down those need to stay in the refrigerator. 366 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:56.720 Well he walked in on her, checking in on it. 367 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:58.480 Yeah, oh that's what it was. 368 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.000 Okay, Any other thoughts on the episode? 369 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.640 Yeah, the girl mellow. 370 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.960 Yes, when she came out of the shower or she 371 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:12.039 was after she bathed, her hair was perfectly curled and 372 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:18.680 like just perfect, and I'm like what, I was like, 373 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.480 what how does that work? 374 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:22.680 She has really good products? 375 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:27.200 She must mean she's sponsored to Hale Yeah, holy shit. 376 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.400 I was like, damn, that must be nice to just 377 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.279 like get out of the shower and your hair's perfectly done. 378 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:36.279 That's the future I want to live in. But that's 379 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.519 all I had. Yeah, Oh, I did want to talk 380 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:43.359 about how Brother day Uh showed his cunning again. 381 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.920 Yeah, he didn't ride right into a trap. 382 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.359 It was very short, very very short lived little bit 383 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.519 of him that we saw, just like a little vignette 384 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:57.000 of what's going on over there in Miderville. I don't know, 385 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:02.200 but he's a he's very cunning right now, and I 386 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.440 kind of like seeing the side of him. It's very interesting. 387 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.680 Yeah, well, he's more sober than he's been. They took 388 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.079 away his connection, so he's got to get her back. 389 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.839 National Queen. Who was the standout character in the episode? 390 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.559 Who do you think was the standout character? Was it 391 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:24.440 Brother don I think. 392 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.440 That's what I'm gonna go with. 393 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:29.680 Yeah, because he was like a cold hearted murderer and manipulator, 394 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.000 and he was like fully trusting Gail and leaning in. 395 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.359 What a fool and then he gets stabbed in the 396 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.960 back and shot in the chest or shot at and then. 397 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:41.799 They push him out the airlock. 398 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.920 Yep, fully gave him the old Cylon treatment. 399 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:51.839 Yeah, So I'm like, I'm gonna vote for Down today 400 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.759 just because he learned some lessons and he's like, I 401 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.640