WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:03.399 Do you want to report a UFO. 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:04.759 It? 4 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:06.440 We don't want to. 5 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:08.560 Report every thirty one. 6 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:09.480 Do you wish to report a. 7 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.279 UFO over, Hey, we want to one of those data. 8 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:15.439 Areas thirty one. 9 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 10 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 11 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.199 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time. 12 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:23.879 Areas thirty one me neither. 13 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:26.000 There were seven one golf. 14 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.480 If it was actually a U above us to pass us, 15 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:31.640 like thirty seconds ago. 16 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:37.960 We were sending one of golf negative, Okay, OFFI the UFO. Yeah, 17 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:40.920 it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over, 18 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:42.600 I go. 19 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.159 I don't know what it was. 20 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.280 But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us. See, 21 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.159 I passed out over the top of US. 22 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:54.759 Ninety one one. You just called both to be be 23 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:55.479 four rest. 24 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.479 They're after staying the airplanes, he is. 25 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.519 I swear to God more calm in on an unidentified 26 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.519 object every liberty four call or calm on an unidentified 27 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.239 flying object. 28 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 29 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 30 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.560 an encounter I would like to be on the show, 31 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.920 you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 32 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.319 Hello everyone, great to have you here tonight. I'm Nick 33 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.200 Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight our 34 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.040 guest is Jay, and he joins us from New York 35 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.439 State to share experiences for his life, beginning with a 36 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:05.040 cylindrical craft above the trees during childhood and a blue 37 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.400 light that flooded his family's home. Years later. His account 38 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.960 includes a near death encounter with a vast golden lights, 39 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:16.759 unexplained voices, geometric symbols, and more recently, his wife claims 40 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:21.639 to be communicating teopathically with a mantislike entity known as Stella. 41 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.439 Jay is up next, but first, if you enjoy a 42 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.879 show and you would like to help support the podcast 43 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.400 on Patreon, you can do this for as little as 44 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.599 one dollar a month. Head on over to patreon dot 45 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:37.560 com forward slash UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find 46 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.280 a link in the description of this episode. Any help 47 00:02:40.400 --> 00:03:00.280 is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Hey, 48 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:01.759 welcome to the podcast. 49 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:03.680 Hi, it's nice to be here. 50 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:05.639 It's great to have to do it, and you're coming 51 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.159 to us from New York state. 52 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:08.360 That's correct. 53 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.000 Great stuff. Okay, Now, Jay, you have several experiences you're 54 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.240 going to be sharing with us tonight. Would you like 55 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:16.639 to start at the beginning, please, sir? 56 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.280 Yeah, sure, all right. So I've lived most of my 57 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.960 life in Troy, New York. I've had a lot of 58 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:28.479 strange experiences, paranormal experiences, just stuff I don't know how 59 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:32.400 to explain. But you know, my first sighting was maybe 60 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.879 around six years old. I remember looking out of my 61 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.280 window or my mom's window, in the second floor of 62 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.039 the building that we lived at, seeing our backyard, and 63 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.719 right behind our backyard there's a hill side that goes 64 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.800 down to a creek and the hill goes back again 65 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.439 on the other side, so it's all forested area. It's 66 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:00.240 right up against the Oakwood Cemetery. And I remember we're 67 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:06.360 seeing a cylindrical raft that is kind of copperish brown, 68 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:11.879 and along the mid section of it was different colored lights, 69 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.520 so there was yellow. 70 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:15.919 And blue red. 71 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.759 So, you know, that was my first experience and seeing 72 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:22.199 something like that, being that young, I didn't. 73 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:22.519 Know what it was. 74 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:24.839 I just you know, write it off whatever and move on. 75 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.560 So but as time went on, my mom told me 76 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.319 that I had been having night terrors when I was 77 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.800 a kid, so I would wake up in the middle 78 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.439 of the night screaming, with no apparent reason as to 79 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.279 why I was doing that. Also with a history of 80 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:45.000 migraines around that time, so nothing else really happened until 81 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.680 around the age of thirteen. Around that time, I was 82 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:54.480 living with my family in Lantenberg, and directly across from 83 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.959 our house, there was a craft that lifted off of 84 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:04.040 or from behind a commercial building that was across the 85 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.720 street from our house. So from what my experience was, 86 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.519 what I had seen was I remember being on the 87 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:16.240 staircase and the house being completely bathed in a blue light. 88 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.680 So my mother was downstairs looking out the bay window, 89 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.519 you know, and my father was there as well, and 90 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.879 they were asking, you know, what was that, you know, 91 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.199 talking to each other because they weren't sure what it 92 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.079 was either, you know, where the blue light was? My mom, 93 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.879 you know, before that, you know, on accounts of my 94 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.680 brother telling me, because I don't I don't remember it, 95 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.360 but my brother told me that Mom had woken up 96 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.680 because she thought it was morning time, that that's how 97 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:47.959 bright the light was. So she went down to go 98 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:49.839 make the coffee, and that's when she looked at the 99 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.480 clock and realized that, I mean, it's not morning time 100 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.199 nowhere near. So she that's when they started to question 101 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.680 what was going on. But from my I only got 102 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.759 to see the light, you know, sitting on the stairs, 103 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.399 and then said that you know, I don't I don't 104 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.519 want to deal with this, and then went back to sleep. 105 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:12.560 So I went back to my bed to go to sleep. 106 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.120 But from what my brother tells me is that they 107 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:21.040 continued to watch the craft rise from from behind that 108 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.199 building across the street into the sky until like the 109 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.279 daylight hours came, so it had been a long time. 110 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.439 He said that at some point that the cops had 111 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:36.120 arrived and the police officers arrived and they talked to 112 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.480 my mom about what was going on, and they weren't 113 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.680 sure what it was either that was in the sky. 114 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.399 So the next one would probably be you know, around 115 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.399 the age of eighteen, I had a near death experience. 116 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.399 I don't want to get into the specifics of how 117 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:58.279 that happened, but I remember losing consciousness. So and then 118 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.399 after I lost consciousness, the next thing I remember seeing 119 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.240 was a really bright golden light as far as I 120 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.800 can see in any direction. I couldn't see my hands, 121 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.399 I couldn't see the nose on my face, I couldn't 122 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.240 see anything but that gold light. You know, I was 123 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:20.399 confused because I remembered what had happened before I was there, 124 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:25.800 and I didn't understand how I got there or what 125 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.759 was going on, you know, So I was very confused. 126 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.000 So and as I was thinking about those things in 127 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:36.720 my head, the corners of my vision started to get black, 128 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.279 so it was like a pitch black on the corners. 129 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.680 And then that the black on the corners continued to 130 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.800 get larger in my field of view until I realized 131 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:49.920 that what I was looking at was a giant golden circle. 132 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.120 So and as I continue to look at it, you know, confused, 133 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.240 trying to figure out what's going on, the circle seems 134 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.279 to be getting smaller and smaller as time goes on, 135 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:06.399 and then it disappears, and I'm just there in nothing. 136 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:11.279 It was complete darkness, black, and I was there in 137 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.959 the black for you know, maybe ten fifteen seconds before 138 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.000 I was able to open my eyes. And I was 139 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.079 aware and conscious the whole time. I was having that experience, 140 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.800 all the way up past the time that I opened 141 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.759 my eyes, you know, So That's part of the reason 142 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.480 why I still remember it, which is, you know, kind 143 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:29.879 of weird. 144 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:30.279 You know. 145 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.279 I thought about it a little bit as I've gotten older, 146 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.799 you know, and I think that what I seen may 147 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.360 have been the beginning, you know, it could have been 148 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:47.039 the beginning of everything. There's the black which is the off, 149 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.919 and the all light which is the on. 150 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.039 So you have binary so zero's and ones. 151 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:59.480 That maybe the foundation of reality itself that I've observed. 152 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.799 I'm not sure sure, but that was my experience with that. 153 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.000 So when I was twenty two, I had an incident 154 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.120 where I was alone. 155 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.480 In my house and I had work in the morning. 156 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.679 It was a late night. I decided to go to sleep. 157 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.360 When I laid my head down on the pillow, I 158 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.799 heard two voices talking with each other in a language 159 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:23.799 that I had never heard before. There was I kind 160 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:28.759 of can recognize certain languages, like you know, French or 161 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:34.440 German or Russian or Mandarin or this language. I just 162 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.840 I couldn't put my finger on it, so, I mean 163 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:39.600 it caught me by surprise. I lifted my head back 164 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.159 up off the pillow and listened, and I didn't hear it. 165 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.759 There was there was nothing there, so that I put 166 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.600 my head back down on the pillow and I heard 167 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.440 it again, took my head off the pillow. I didn't 168 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.720 hear it. So I just moved my pillow to the 169 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.639 other side of the bed, you know, and laid down 170 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.559 and I didn't hear it anymore. So I went about 171 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.720 my business, went back to sleep, and when about going 172 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.840 to work the next morning. So around the age of 173 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.600 twenty one, I had an incident where I felt like 174 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.919 there was a presence in the apartment building that I 175 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:16.759 was at. This is well after my ND So the 176 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.759 feelings I get it's kind of weird. It's like if 177 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.440 you leave a television on and it's a black screen. 178 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.080 There's no sound or you know, image on it. 179 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:27.879 It's just black screen. 180 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.840 There's this I don't know energy sound, I don't know 181 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.320 how to describe it, just a feeling that comes with that. 182 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:40.360 I've also there's a similar feeling when I listened to 183 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.480 like a nineteen thousand hurts on a speaker, So I 184 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.639 get that same kind of feeling. But in any case, 185 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:49.720 you know, I think that may have something to do 186 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:53.480 with these entities, you know, and they're whatever energy or 187 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:58.759 vibration that they have whenever they're around, it gives off 188 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.799 that frequency. There's also a Doppler effect with that, so 189 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.759 you know, if they were to walk in front of something, 190 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.240 that energy kind of gets muffled down and I can 191 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.799 you know, there's like a shift there. But in any case, 192 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.320 I had this experience where, you know, I was in 193 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.240 the building, nobody else was there, and I felt it 194 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.759 moving around and I called it out, and you know, 195 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.519 I let it know. I said, hey, you know, I 196 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.360 know you're there. I know you're there walking around. I 197 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.759 don't know what you're doing or why you're there, but 198 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.679 I know you're there. And as soon as I said it, man, 199 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.159 this thing it got in my face. It felt like 200 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.240 it was nose to nose with me. The energy was 201 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.039 off the charts, you know, and it made me feel 202 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.399 uncomfortable just how close it was to me, to. 203 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:46.759 The point where I had to leave. 204 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.720 I left the building and did some other things, and 205 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.679 then eventually came back and I didn't feel it again, 206 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.799 so which is nice, because you know, i'd have to 207 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.440 move if I just kept feeling that feeling is it 208 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.559 was that uncomfortable, right, So the next experience I would 209 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.559 have had was probably in twenty twenty two or I 210 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:12.480 was I was having an existential crisis where I felt 211 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:16.440 as though that we were just meat machines, just computers, 212 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.799 you know, and that when we cease to exist, we 213 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.960 cease to exist. And it was it was really bothering me. 214 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:27.360 I was having panic attacks, you know, high anxiety for 215 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:31.159 a couple of days. So on the second day, you know, 216 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.600 I was getting ready to go to sleep and lay down, 217 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.360 and I was, I having a whole lot of problems 218 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.879 with it, a lot of anxiety. For one of the 219 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.559 few times in my life, I prayed in my head 220 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.759 and I said, God, please take this this pain away 221 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.240 from me. You know, maybe there's certain things that I 222 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:51.759 shouldn't know, or maybe you know, I shouldn't look into this. 223 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.240 But that night, after I did that, I went to sleep. 224 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:59.360 While I was sleep and I had a dream that 225 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:03.879 was it was a very vivid dream that maybe an abduction. 226 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.879 I'm not sure, you mean, it could be a screen 227 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:10.279 memory placed on so but in any case, the dream 228 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:14.080 goes that I was I was standing behind a white 229 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:18.360 sprinter like van that the doors open up sideways. To 230 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.000 the left of me was a man with you know, 231 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:24.120 he looked like a blue collar man. He had short hair, 232 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:29.080 like short short beard hair. He had like a blue 233 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:33.399 button up T shirt with jean pants. We were on 234 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.320 the road, on the wrong side of the road if 235 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.000 you're in America. Next to that was the curb, and 236 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.840 then the grass and then a sidewalk, and then there 237 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.600 was a small hill with grass on it that had 238 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.759 concrete stairs that led up to like a colonial style 239 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.600 house with like a wrought iron and rails. 240 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.960 So, you know, it's a pretty detailed dream that I'm having. 241 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.679 And you know, I I turned to my left, I 242 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.080 look at the guy, and I ask, why are we here? 243 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:08.879 I had to really push to get the wire. We 244 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.039 hear out and it had like a reverb to it 245 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:17.240 when I said it, and he turned his head, not 246 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.440 his body, just his head. He turned his head and 247 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.879 looked at me with a blank expression on his face. 248 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.840 And in that moment the scene changed. We were no 249 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.039 longer behind the van. Now we were in something I 250 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:34.080 would describe as a like a high school laboratory. 251 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:36.200 So there was these big. 252 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.399 Windows with the long slat blinds that go sideways, and 253 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.320 he pulled the string in the slat turns so and 254 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.720 then there was a black linoleum style countertop with pine 255 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:51.960 in cabinet tree underneath of that, and right in front 256 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.519 of that was a kind of like an island with 257 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.759 the same black linoleum countertop and pine cabinetry underneath. That 258 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.720 was maybe seven feet long, like four foot wide. So 259 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.039 the guy that I had seen in the previous part 260 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.000 of their dream was a step back from me, maybe 261 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.799 one person in length, because I remember looking to my 262 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.799 left looking back and seeing the guy there. So but 263 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:22.639 he again he had this blank expression on his face. 264 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:26.360 Directly in front of me, maybe about ten feet was 265 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.600 a man with long hair that came down. 266 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.279 To his shoulder. 267 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.360 It was very curly, kind of like a poodle, and 268 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.679 it was a salt and pepper so it was both 269 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.200 gray and dark color. He had a white button up 270 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.080 T shirt with khaki pants, you know, Caucasian looking man, 271 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:47.879 not sure, but it was a light skin. And again 272 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.039 I'm standing here, and I looked at him, and again 273 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.440 I ask why are we here? So again it's the 274 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:57.159 same reverb and it's the same force, you know, I 275 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.639 had to really work at it to say why were 276 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.200 we here? And the moment I said that, he kind 277 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.799 of tilted his head, looked surprised, then looked annoyed and 278 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.559 then rushed toward me with an amazing speed. I don't 279 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.879 know how to describe it. That ten feet was nothing 280 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.879 for this person. So his right hand came up from 281 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:23.279 his side and then came close to my left eye 282 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.159 or my temple. So as soon as that happened, I 283 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.919 woke up in my bed. I had sleep paralysis. I 284 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.759 couldn't move, you know, I wasn't numb. I could feel 285 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.559 my wife's arm or my wife's head on my arm, 286 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.759 and there was this symbol made of light in my 287 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:48.399 left eye. So the symbol looked kind of similar to triskelion. 288 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:50.679 With the way that it was set up. 289 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.679 We had three lines coming out from a centralized point 290 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.440 with like I don't know, thirty maybe thirty three degree 291 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:02.480 turns on it to create a triangle overall shape. And 292 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.559 on each one of those lines there was three symbols 293 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.880 on each part of the line where it would it 294 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:13.200 would bend, So the flat part would be one symbol, 295 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:15.319 and then it would bend, and then another symbol, and 296 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.359 then it would bend and then there's another symbol. So 297 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.400 on each line it's the same three symbols. So the 298 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.319 first symbol was something that I figured out to be 299 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:30.079 a evergreen tree. The second symbol is what I believe 300 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.480 to be a lion. And then the third symbol was 301 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:36.880 the hardest for me to figure out. That was it 302 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.759 looked like a trus, but there was three of them 303 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.240 that made a triangular shape. So over time, you know, 304 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.119 trying to figure out what this thing is, you know, 305 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:49.039 I looked at it from different angles, like it with spirituality, 306 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.480 you know, and the Christian faith and some other things, 307 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.200 trying to figure out what's going on. But ultimately, I 308 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.440 think they answered my question when I asked, why are 309 00:17:59.519 --> 00:17:59.920 we here? 310 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:01.759 So I think what. 311 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:06.880 They showed me was a evolution of consciousness. So we 312 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.440 start off as something as simple as a plant or 313 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.960 a tree, and then you know, graduate to something more 314 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:18.599 complex like an animal such as a lion, and then 315 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:23.799 something even more complex as those three torus, you know. 316 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.880 But I had no reference point to that until I 317 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:31.680 had another experience later which I'll get into. But the 318 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.480 symbol made of light. Every time my heart beat, the 319 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.119 light would flash. It would be like this bright bluish 320 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.240 white color and then it would fade to a goldish yellow, 321 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.880 and then my heart would beat and it would have 322 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:49.279 flash to that light blue white, and then fade back 323 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.400 to the goldish yellow, like it was linked to my 324 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:57.000 heartbeat somehow. Also in my right eye there was a 325 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.240 similar thing going on. There wasn't the same symbol, but 326 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.839 there was a line on the bottom part of my 327 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:07.519 eye that looked kind of like a straw with the 328 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.319 adjustable neck, so it went straight and then it got 329 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.920 crooked and bent down. So every time my heart would 330 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:18.079 be it would also flash the same color as the symbol. 331 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.480 So obviously I'm freaked out. I mean, I'm laying in bed, 332 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.920 I'm screaming in my mind helped me, because you know, 333 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:25.839 I'm just I'm really freaking This is the only the 334 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:28.920 first time I've ever had that happen to me where 335 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:31.119 I can't move and I had something in my face. 336 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:35.640 But over time, the brightness of the symbol started to 337 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.160 fade and then I was able to get up. So 338 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:43.960 while I couldn't move, I wanted to try to study it, 339 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.359 you know, even though I was freaking out, you know, 340 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.160 there wasn't much else I could do other than study 341 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.119 the image and try to remember what it looked like, 342 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:54.880 which is really hard when you know you're under that 343 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.119 kind of stress. So as soon as I was able 344 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:59.799 to it, got up, you know, I went to the 345 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.680 room immediately looked into my eye, you know, to see 346 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.240 what was going on, and then I went to my 347 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:08.519 computer and started sketching it out because I didn't want 348 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.240 to forget, you know, what I had seen. I still 349 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.279 can't forget what I've seen, you know, when I think 350 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:16.640 about it, I see the image in my mind. There 351 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:20.680 was that, And then weeks later I had another experience 352 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.920 where I woke up and it was four o'clock in 353 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.480 the morning, because I remember looking at the clock after 354 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:32.240 the experience, So floating above my feet maybe two feet 355 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:36.519 was a ring made of light, like an led ring light, 356 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.559 something very similar to that. But the inside there was 357 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.920 flames made of shadow. So the part that touched the 358 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.599 ring of light was the darkest part on each flame, 359 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:53.880 and the tip was the lightest, so it was almost 360 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.960 like a grayish white, almost like smoke toward the tips. 361 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:02.640 So the flames weren't connected. They were separated, similar to 362 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:05.839 like a flag would be separated, so their their own 363 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:11.880 distinct triangular shapes in a odd number, so maybe nine 364 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.680 to eleven. I'm not sure exactly what, but I remember 365 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.279 there being an odd number. I call them flames because 366 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.200 they moved like a flame does, so they waved like 367 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.240 a flame would, and they also bifurcated, so the tips 368 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.799 on the each one of those flames, at some point 369 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.079 they would bifurcate, and then you'd have two tips on 370 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.400 the flame, and then the flame would come back together. 371 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.759 And the closest reference I have to something doing that 372 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.960 would be a flame. So I didn't feel threatened by it. 373 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.759 And because of the previous experience that I had, you 374 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:49.359 know before, I was still kind of in shock from 375 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.559 what I had happened with that, you know, and I 376 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.680 just I didn't want to deal with it. So I said, 377 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.000 I'm not dealing with this, and I turned looked at 378 00:21:58.039 --> 00:21:59.559 the clock and said I'm going back to sleep. 379 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.160 So, you know, that was that. But I think. 380 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.720 That that ring of light may be the third symbol 381 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.640 that I seen, or the third the third symbol that 382 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.519 I had seen in the symbol, So the third item. 383 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:16.480 I don't know what you want to call. 384 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.880 It, but I mean the three taurus that were at 385 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.799 the end, is that it was one of those. So 386 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.559 I think that they had sent that here so that 387 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.079 I had a reference point to understand what that is 388 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:32.480 because I know what a tree looks like, you know, 389 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:34.880 I know what an evergreen tree looks like. I know 390 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.279 what a lion looks like. But I don't know, you know, 391 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:43.119 what reference I would have to those taurus in the 392 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.599 shape of a triangle, the three taurus. It just didn't 393 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.440 make sense to me. So I think that maybe, you know, 394 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.079 that was part of it. So another thing with the 395 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.799 symbol when I had that experience was the next day 396 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.960 when I woke up, my left eye heard really bad, 397 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.640 like I had been punched in my eye. You know, 398 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.160 I didn't have any bruising, but it definitely hurt. When 399 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.039 I went to my job, you know, my brother and 400 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.680 my nephew they work with me, and they noticed that 401 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.160 I was off. You know, I wasn't being the funny 402 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.480 person that I used to be, the energetic person I 403 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.279 used to be, and you know, they noticed that I 404 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:25.720 was just there was something wrong. 405 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:27.759 So they asked me about. 406 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.200 It, and I jokingly told them that I think I 407 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.519 got I think I got punched in the eye by 408 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.920 an angel last night, you know, and they laughed it off, 409 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.079 and I explained my experience to them as well. So 410 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:40.000 they didn't know what to make of it and thought 411 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.119 it was kind of weird, but you know, we went 412 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.599 about our day. So a few days after I seen 413 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.680 the ring of light in my bed. When I woke up, 414 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:51.799 I was laying in my bed getting ready to go 415 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:52.200 to sleep. 416 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:55.400 I hadn't quite got there yet, but with. 417 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:58.519 My eyes closed, laying in the bed, there was a 418 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.880 bright light, like a singular point of light that looked 419 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:08.000 like it rushed toward me, and then it seemed like 420 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.599 it was a person. So my eyes were closed. I mean, 421 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:13.880 I shouldn't and I know I'm not dreaming. I'm laying 422 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:17.200 in my bed, but there's this being made of light. 423 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.680 So it was a silhouette kind of thing, like there 424 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:23.000 wasn't any details of like a nose or eye or 425 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:25.319 mouth or anything like that. It was just it was 426 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.279 this golden light being in front of me the torso view. 427 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:31.440 I could see the arms. 428 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.119 I could see the chest, you know, the stomach area, 429 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.200 and the head and it was holding its hands in 430 00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:42.880 what I found out later was in a moodru position. 431 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:47.480 So the left hand was pointed up like at the 432 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:53.079 shoulder level, pointing toward the right shoulder, and the right 433 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.960 hand was at the waist pointing up so because this 434 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.480 thing came at me with the speed that it it did, 435 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.680 it startled me and I immediately opened my eyes and 436 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.960 pulled back away from it. And it wasn't in the 437 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:11.480 room with me, but it was more like it was 438 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.599 it was in my mind, like an image that I 439 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.759 was seeing, similar to like a memory, like if you 440 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:18.640 were to remember something, you see it in your in 441 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.200 your head, so something similar to that. But like I said, 442 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.319 I was just laying in the bed and this singular 443 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.960 point of light became this light being who made that Maudra? 444 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.440 Again it caught me off guard. So and then a 445 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.839 few days after that, again I'm laying in bed and 446 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.279 while I'm laying in bed with my eyes closed, I 447 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.839 see a geometric shape and I'm not sure what the 448 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:50.240 geometric shape was at that time, but after you know, 449 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:54.079 looking into it and trying to figure out what it was, 450 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.440 I found that it was the seed of life. So 451 00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:59.599 it was kind of like, I don't know. So there's 452 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:04.960 two differ ways that I see things. So with memories, 453 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.839 it's kind of like two screens. So if you have 454 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.240 two screens and one is overlaid onto the other one, 455 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.839 so you know what I'm seeing in real life in 456 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.960 real time, right, so that would be your primary screen, 457 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.640 and then like the memory bit would be like an overlaid, 458 00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:25.319 opaque version of the other whatever is going on, so 459 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.920 your memory So this is totally different. So what I'm 460 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:33.039 talking about is like your eyelid's being closed and then 461 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.079 seeing an image on the back side of your eyelid. 462 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.400 So it made of like, I don't know, like light, 463 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:43.240 but it's a very faint shadowy light. So it's hard 464 00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:46.680 to tell the difference between the darkness of the behind 465 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.000 the eyelid and it, but there is like a slight 466 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.720 shade difference between the two. But what I had seen 467 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.240 was the seed of life. So at that point, that's 468 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.680 when I started to look into what all these symbols 469 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.039 could be meaning. Like I said, I, look, you tried 470 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.440 to figure out what the mudra meant. You know what 471 00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.559 the mudra was to begin with. I didn't even know 472 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.799 what a mudra was at that point, so you know, 473 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.160 I looked into that, and I looked into the seed 474 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.680 of life and it and the ring of light with 475 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.519 the flames made of shadow, and that brought me to 476 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:26.119 researching Kashmir Shivaism. So you know, I was looking into 477 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.599 maybe there was some kind of a connection there with Shiba. So, 478 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.880 you know, as throughout my research at that point, you know, 479 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.119 I started to look into the Monroe Institute and then 480 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.640 I tried the Hemi sync. So you know, I put 481 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.680 the video on the YouTube and put the headphones on 482 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.200 and tried to do the HEMI sync that they have 483 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.079 so and I think I may have done a remote 484 00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.839 viewing inadvertently while doing that, because I you know, I 485 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.319 wasn't sure it was going to do anything, so I 486 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.440 just wanted to try it out and see, you know, 487 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.920 what happens. So, you know, I was laying on my couch, 488 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.559 I had the headphones on, I was listening to the beat, 489 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.640 and it was weird. It was it wasn't like I 490 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.200 fell asleep, but there was this sensation. And then because 491 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.440 I had my eyes closed, I seen what looked kind 492 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.160 of like cartoon bubbles, you know, like a cartoon where 493 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.920 they would have the thought bubble that would come up 494 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:21.960 and then they'd have like the text in there, so 495 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.599 something similar to that. So it started off with a 496 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.599 couple bubbles and then the bubbles got bigger until it 497 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.440 was like one big bubble. And I seen what looked 498 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.799 like a woman's hand. I assume it was a woman 499 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.240 because there was no hair on her hand and had 500 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.119 she had really nice nails, like kept up nails. But 501 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.720 in any case, she was sitting at like a pine 502 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.079 wood table or a lightwood colored table. She had her 503 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.119 hand on a stick or a gray colored stick that 504 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.359 was in a Stanley cup. So it was a gray 505 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.359 colored Stanley cup with like a stainless steel rim around it. 506 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.880 The water inside the cuff was a gray color, and 507 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.559 then there was flex of white and black that were 508 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.880 in there. So after thinking about that for a while, 509 00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.079 you know, I came to the realization and I think 510 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.240 she was painting. So those flecks of the white and 511 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.000 the black were part of whatever paint that was on 512 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.759 the brush and she had that in the cup and 513 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.200 was washing the brush off. So it didn't tie into anything. 514 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.480 But at the time, you know, I didn't have any targets. 515 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.000 I wasn't thinking about anything specific. 516 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.839 I was just trying the HEMI scenek and see into 517 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.839 what happens, and that was the experience that had happened. 518 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.640 Do you have an interest in the para normal? Did 519 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.119 you'll love the unex network dot com? 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And when we go to check 536 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.480 on him, he was standing up in his crib and 537 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.839 he was pointing up, so we weren't really sure what 538 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.640 was going on there, but you know, it was just 539 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.000 it was a strange experience that we had noticed. So 540 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.640 at the same time at twenty twenty three, you know, 541 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.400 not exactly the same day, but around you know in 542 00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:15.119 that year I had witnessed a gray a gray being 543 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.480 or an entity, but it looked different than you know 544 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.519 what most people say. So this So what had happened 545 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:24.559 was I was in the bathroom using the bathroom. I 546 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.920 got out the bathroom walking down the hallway, and there's 547 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.839 another hallway to my right hand side that leads to 548 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.519 the bedrooms. 549 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.440 So I looked to my right as. 550 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.599 I was walking down the hallway and I looked down 551 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.799 the other hallway that goes to the bedrooms, and there 552 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:47.160 was a scatow entity on the wall. So it looked 553 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.119 as though it was a two dimensional representation of a 554 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.599 gray entity or the closest I can say that it 555 00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:00.759 looked like would maybe be the Bob entity. So but 556 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.960 in any case, it was maybe three foot tall three 557 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.319 to four foot tall, had large almond shaped eye. It 558 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.240 was a side profile as if it was walking down 559 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.440 the hallway going into the bedrooms, and it was mid step, 560 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.480 so you know, it had a little bump out for 561 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:19.000 the nose. 562 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.920 I could see the chin and. 563 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.480 With a shadow, you shouldn't be able to see the 564 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.559 definition you know where you know, where the chin is 565 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.319 underneath where the neck is, the where the chin and 566 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.000 the neck meet. There shouldn't be any definition there, but 567 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.480 I definitely saw the line that separates the chin from 568 00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.079 the neck, so you know, and the eye on it 569 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.839 was dark, almost black, compared to the gray color the 570 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.559 rest of it was. It had a very skinny neck. 571 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:54.599 It looked kind of frail to be, you know, to 572 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.240 be honest, with this large head. So it's shoulders weren't 573 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.359 very wide. It had pretty long arms, maybe three three 574 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.480 fingers that are at least twice the length of a 575 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.039 human finger on each one of its its hands. It 576 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:15.079 had very skinny legs, and the feet looked kind of long, 577 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.759 but not as long as the hands. Didn't look like 578 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.079 it was wearing clothes. But like I said, it was 579 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:24.240 in mid step, so I think it froze as it 580 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.480 was moving. I think it noticed that I noticed it 581 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.119 and stopped moving when I did that. So when I 582 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.960 seen it, my first reaction was is, Oh, it's just 583 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.920 my son wearing the rake costume. Because at that time, 584 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.680 my older son liked to wear his Halloween costume around 585 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.480 the house. So you know, when I first seen it, 586 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.000 that was the first thought that came to my mind, is, Oh, 587 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.440 it's just my boy wearing his costume. So I turned 588 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.920 back and then took a few more steps forward, and 589 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.400 then realized that the sun that I just thought was 590 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.480 wearing the costume was sitting at the computer and he 591 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.640 wasn't wearing the costume. So immediately you have a put 592 00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.079 two and two together, and I'm like, that's not my son. 593 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.920 So I took the steps. 594 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.719 Back and then looked down the hallway and the thing 595 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.480 that I had just seen was gone, disappeared. So I 596 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.559 don't know if it was my brain trying to rationalize 597 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.199 what I had just seen, or it put that thought 598 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:23.559 in my head so that I would just go about 599 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.239 my business and leave it alone. So in that same year, 600 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.239 in twenty twenty three, my older son had an incident 601 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.960 where he went to get some snacks off of the 602 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.519 stand up fridge or freezer that we have. So when 603 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.159 he did that, he climbed up on one of the 604 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.760 chairs to get up there to go get it. And 605 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.519 he said, when he did that, he's seen a triangular 606 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.519 shaped head poke up around the corner and look at him, 607 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.280 and when he seen it, it caught him off guard 608 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.360 and he kind of stumbled on the chair and fell down. 609 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.840 He didn't hurt himself or anything like that, but he 610 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.639 just he caught himself while he did it, and he 611 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.599 said that the entity made an audible whoe sound, and 612 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.000 you know that that was what he told me about 613 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.519 that incident. So the same year, my wife starts having 614 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.159 multiple instances of seeing me home while I'm not home. 615 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.440 So I think the first one she has she went 616 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.440 down into the basement to go put something there, and 617 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:31.159 she had seen me standing there in my pajamas. So 618 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.159 at that time I was at work. There's no way 619 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.039 that I was at home. She obviously wasn't seeing me. 620 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:38.360 She said that. 621 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.960 Whatever it was wasn't making any kind of movement, as 622 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.880 though it didn't even realize that she was there. So 623 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.159 that was the first time, but it wasn't the last 624 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.440 time that, you know, she's experienced the me but not 625 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.280 me at my house. There's been a lot more than 626 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.559 a handful, probably like twenty to twenty five instances where 627 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.480 she's seen me at home even though I'm not there, 628 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.960 you know, not just the person, but she's also seen 629 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.880 me like driving my work truck out in front of 630 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.559 the house, but obviously I'm not there, so you know, 631 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.519 there's no way that I could be there there was 632 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:22.000 an instance where my wife and my daughter both seen 633 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.880 my oldest son sitting at the computer. But my son 634 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.760 was still in school at the time, so there was 635 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.639 no way that my son could have been home sitting 636 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.440 at the computer. So my wife raised that point to 637 00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.599 my daughter, and then when they when she told her that, 638 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.039 she said that they both seen the entity of the 639 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:48.920 person who looked like my son sitting at the computer disappear, 640 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.440 boofed out of nowhere. So the next instance, it would 641 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.239 probably be you know, it's September, around September of twenty 642 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:56.840 twenty four. 643 00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:58.960 My wife, she is. 644 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:03.719 Laying out on the the couch with my younger son, 645 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.119 and by that time I'm already in the room. 646 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.880 I'm laying down and you know, I'm. 647 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.199 Getting ready for work, you know, getting ready to go 648 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:14.280 to work for the next day. 649 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.000 So I need to go to sleep. 650 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.440 So I go to sleep, and while I'm sleeping, she 651 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.840 says that she got up, she went to go get 652 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.000 a drink, and she had a feeling to come and 653 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.519 check on me. So and then because of the strange 654 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:33.760 experiences that we were having, she felt like she should 655 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.920 bring the camera too, so she brought the camera with 656 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.440 her to the bedroom after she got her drink, and 657 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.599 as soon as she entered the doorway, she took three 658 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:48.360 photos in the room. So later on she woke me 659 00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.880 up at maybe like twelve thirty, you know, and she 660 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:56.719 seemed pretty pretty excited, you know, concerned she was. She 661 00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.960 wasn't sure what she had taken a photo. So the 662 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:03.840 first two photos that she taken were completely black. There 663 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.119 was nothing, there was nothing on them, I mean, so 664 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.000 you know, they were kind of useless. But the third 665 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.280 photo that she had taken, it showed something in it, 666 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:14.639 so she showed me. 667 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:15.280 I woke up. 668 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.360 I wasn't quite sure what was going on because I 669 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.159 just woke up, and I'm like, okay, you know whatever, 670 00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.760 just you know, I'll look at it later. And I'm 671 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.239 not sure what you got there, So I went back 672 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:31.880 to sleep. So over time, you know, and studying the photo, 673 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.840 I realized that the photo it looks a lot like 674 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:41.119 the the entity in the photo that was taken during 675 00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:47.360 the C five contact with doctor Stephen Greer. So it 676 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.440 has a very triangular shaped head with it's wearing a 677 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.840 wearing clothes similar to like you know, loose. 678 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.440 Spitting, long sleeved clothes. 679 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.079 The the hands or what you would consider hands or 680 00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.559 fingers look similar where they sweep back, similar to in 681 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:08.320 his photo. 682 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.239 You know, the one that my wife took also has 683 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:11.559 like a. 684 00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:16.039 Little blue orb in it, similar to how you know 685 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.000 his has a bunch of small blue dots in it. So, 686 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.360 you know, I put two and two together, and I 687 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.000 believe that the photo she had taken was of one 688 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.599 of those Mantus entities that Greer had taken a photo 689 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.800 of or had somebody take a photo of in the 690 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.519 Sea five during the Sea FI contact. So you know, 691 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.360 after that, you know, I start looking into gnosticism and 692 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.440 you know if maybe that has something to do with it. 693 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.079 You know, I wanted to look at all avenues here 694 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.679 because I'm trying to gather information on what's going on. 695 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.519 I would like to say that this is one of 696 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:58.199 the most complex questions that anybody can can ask, you know, 697 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.679 what is the nature of reality itself? 698 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.199 You know, and trying to understand. 699 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.320 Who we are, what we are, you know, where we 700 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.400 belong in it, you know. And I'm not the smartest 701 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.400 guy out there, so you know, I'm trying to figure 702 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:14.440 it out for myself what's going on. So that's why 703 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.960 I want to research and look into these different avenues 704 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.639 and see if there's there's anything there, if there's any connection. 705 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:24.239 So I think a lot of everything is interconnected in 706 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.559 ways that we don't understand. So just because we don't 707 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.760 understand it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. For example, 708 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.880 the a lot of people that don't have experiences, it's 709 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.280 hard for them to understand because they haven't seen it. 710 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.960 So it's very similar to like the Plato's cave allegory. 711 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.960 So you know, as somebody who experiences, you have left 712 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.400 the cave and you've seen it for what it is, 713 00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:51.000 but everybody else is still in the cave. So you 714 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.199 try to explain to them, you know what you've seen 715 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.079 and experienced, and they have no reference point, They have 716 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.440 no way to know that what you're saying is true 717 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.000 or real, so they dismiss it and they act like 718 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:04.639 you're crazy. 719 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.840 So but like I said, it's. 720 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:11.039 Interconnected in a way we don't understand. You know, it's 721 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:15.360 a very complex, you know, question or situation. So the 722 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.840 way that I would describe it is you imagine a 723 00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.800 thousand piece puzzle, right, and every little bit of data 724 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.920 or information that you get is one little piece on 725 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:24.400 the puzzle. 726 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:25.599 So you put the puzzle. 727 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.119 Together, right, but it's not that it's actually ten of 728 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.480 those puzzles all mixed up in the one box. So 729 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.880 now you have to figure out, right, well, this piece 730 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.519 goes to this separate puzzle, and this piece goes to 731 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:41.079 puzzle three, and this piece goes to puzzle five whatever. So, 732 00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.760 but it's even more complicated than that. Now you have 733 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.639 like ten of those thousand piece puzzles, right, and you 734 00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.599 realize after you've put all those pieces together that it 735 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.880 creates a mosaic. There's a picture within that you don't 736 00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.360 see until you zoom out to a specific point, right, 737 00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.400 So it's even more complicated than that. But you have 738 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.880 to do that, you know, five more times for a 739 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:09.039 total of six mosaics, right, And you notice that the 740 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.360 edges of each one of those mosaics look like they 741 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.480 line up with each other. And then you put them 742 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:18.840 together and it creates a cube. And then you zoom 743 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.440 out even further and you realize that it's just one 744 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:26.159 pixel and a singular puzzle piece. That's how complicated this 745 00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:30.159 issue is. So that's where I'm at with that. So, 746 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.039 you know, I looked into gnosticism, and you know, with that, 747 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.400 and I had, you know, my experiences with you know, 748 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.079 meditating at night, and I wanted to see the demiurge. So, 749 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.800 you know, while I was laying in bed at night, 750 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.800 you know, I meditated on that I wanted to look 751 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.880 the demiurge in the eye. And when I did, while 752 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.320 I was laying there, I similar to how I had 753 00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:59.280 seen the Seed of life geometry and that you know, 754 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.880 it was dark, but you could still see the lines 755 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.519 in the darkness. I had seen an eye, but the 756 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.480 eye had a vertical slit and a horizontal slit to 757 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:18.000 make a plus sign in the eye it had. It 758 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.760 had like a scaly part of the top part of 759 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.519 the eye lid, and then the bottom part also scaly, 760 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.679 and the instead of the eye blinking, the whole head 761 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.679 seemed to rotate like it was trying to look around. 762 00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:34.880 And when I seen that, it kind of freaked me 763 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.679 out and I backed away. 764 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:38.840 And that was that. 765 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.719 So also, my wife had taken a video of an 766 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.360 orb in the sky, you know, and in the video 767 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.519 you can see that the there's a star there, how 768 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.760 the orb is moving in relation to the star. 769 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.239 To kind of give you an idea of how it's moving. 770 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.920 So around that time, you know, in twenty twenty four, 771 00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.480 I started having instances of waking up with songs in 772 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.440 my head. So I think that that was the one 773 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.239 of these entities trying to communicate with me by telling 774 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.880 me or giving me these these songs to listen to 775 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.000 to try to understand. So while I was meditating, because 776 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.559 I had started down this path where I was trying 777 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.880 to learn and figure out what's going on, you know, 778 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.960 I started, I was meditating at night, and I was 779 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.679 kind of reaching out, trying to contact these beings. And 780 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.199 there's a few times that I actually got responses. So 781 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.199 the first time was a male voice who yelled at me. 782 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.840 He was clearly annoyed. He told me to shut up, 783 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.679 and who gave these humans these abilities? So there was 784 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:48.400 another instance maybe a month later after that point, where 785 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.840 I also heard a male voice. It didn't sound like 786 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.400 it was the same voice, but he yelled at me 787 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.400 again and told me to shut the f up. And 788 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:01.599 then there was another instance many months after that, where 789 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.639 I had asked the question what am I you know, 790 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.320 and just kind of broadcast it out while I was meditating, 791 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.760 and I heard another male voice tell me that you 792 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:15.400 are human. So ye mean throughout I've had lots of 793 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.679 dreams that feel real. They don't feel like it's just 794 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.239 a dream. It feels like a memory to me. So 795 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.239 if I think about them, I can see them in 796 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:27.960 pretty clear detail. So I've had like one in particular. 797 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.000 It was a childhood. 798 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:34.119 Dream where I was in my backyard of the home 799 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:36.519 that we lived at when I was young. I was 800 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.320 in the backyard with my brother playing and we were 801 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.079 messing around with sticks, like hitting leaves and weeds and 802 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.039 things like that. I had seen like a shimmer in 803 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.199 the tree line above the fence, so I took the 804 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.199 stick like it was a gun and put it like 805 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.159 in my armpit and then raised the stick up, and 806 00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:01.039 when I did, I was immediately dropped to the ground. 807 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:01.400 You know. 808 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.599 My head was sideways on the ground, and I remember 809 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:10.000 seeing a line of light that opened up into a triangle. 810 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.239 So it's kind of like if there was a door 811 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.880 there and the top of the triangle would be a hinge, 812 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.920 and then the bottom would open like sideways to create 813 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.880 a triangle. And then there was two beings, one on 814 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.199 each side on the one on the left, one on 815 00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.679 the right, and they were like really dark, almost black, 816 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:31.440 in comparison. 817 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:34.000 To the doorway. The doorway itself was this bright white 818 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.280 light and then that was the end of the dream 819 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.079 and I woke up. So toward the end of twenty 820 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.280 twenty four is when this this entity, Stella introduces herself. 821 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.960 And before that, you know, my wife was getting you 822 00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.559 know a little it was like somebody was talking to her, 823 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.119 you know, information here or there. So you know, she 824 00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.280 would tell me she would know when i'd get home, 825 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.519 and I am with my job. 826 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:03.199 I have different times of the day that I get home. 827 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.039 I don't get home at the same time every day, 828 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.119 so you know, I don't know how she knew than 829 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:10.719 that that that. 830 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:11.320 I was home. 831 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.159 So you know, she would start coming out and saying, 832 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.119 you know, somebody told me to come out, and you 833 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.639 were here, so she would come out to greet me. 834 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.559 So it happened multiple times, you know, for for months, 835 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.719 but for at the end of twenty twenty four that 836 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.960 the thing that was telling her when I was getting 837 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:32.920 home had introduced herself as as Stella. So so after 838 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.159 you know, Stella introduces herself. I mean it's it's kind 839 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.480 of weird, Like I looked into you know, channelers, and 840 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:42.400 there's different people that you know, claim that they're they're 841 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.119 channeling these entities, you know, and I'm thinking maybe maybe 842 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.880 she is, but but I'm not sure. So I start 843 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.679 questioning things, you know, I start asking questions, and you 844 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.559 know this Stella doesn't like to give information, so it 845 00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:59.440 seems like, you know, she wants me to kind of 846 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.159 figure things out for myself, you know, like it's some 847 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.360 kind of game or challenge. I mean, it's kind of 848 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.760 annoying sometimes, but I mean it kind of is what 849 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.880 it is. So, you know, like I said, I was, 850 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.159 I was asking questions about Stella, trying to figure out 851 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.239 what was going on. But you know, she says that 852 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.360 she's the mantis entity that has been watching over me, 853 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.119 you know, not just on this this timeline, but. 854 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.880 Other versions of me too. So I wasn't sure if. 855 00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.239 You know, my wife was just pulling my leg messing 856 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.159 with me, or if this this thing was real, which 857 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.079 is part of the reason why I kept asking questions 858 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:36.199 trying to figure things out. 859 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.039 But some of the evidence it. 860 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.280 Was like, well, you know, she knows how I'm here 861 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.920 every day, so how would she know that? And I'm like, well, maybe, 862 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.840 I mean there's like a tracking thing in my location 863 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.400 on my phone or you know, just trying to figure 864 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:52.280 it out. So, you know, close to my birthday. You know, 865 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.400 two days after my birthday, my wife comes out to 866 00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.639 greet me, right, says, Stella says, that you're home. So 867 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.039 that's why I came out. So she came out, she 868 00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:04.920 gave me a hog. While she was giving me a hog, 869 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.519 you know, she said, Stella says, to look up. So 870 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.760 we look up, and when we both looked up, we're like, well, 871 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:13.440 what is that? 872 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.760 Well it was I think it was a uap. So 873 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.519 it was a light. 874 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:26.159 It looked similar to the video of the Turkish ufo. 875 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.880 So it had like this kind of like a crescent 876 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.880 kind of top to it, or like a dome, and 877 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.840 then like a smaller one underneath. 878 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:40.000 So the light it would get bright and. 879 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.760 Then it would dim out, and it moved slowly from 880 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:47.679 the left to the right. So there was two distinct sections. 881 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:48.639 Of it that were made of light. 882 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.480 So there's the top section in the bottom section, they 883 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.880 would get bright and then they would dull out and 884 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.719 get bright and the dull out and then moved from 885 00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.159 left to right. And then while I was standing there, 886 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.280 you know, I told my wife to go get my 887 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.000 phone so that I could I could take a picture 888 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.920 of it, because I wanted to take the picture, but 889 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.360 I didn't want to leave because you know, it's just 890 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.239 pretty amazing. I've never seen any you know, other than 891 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.880 what I had seen early on, which it was a 892 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.199 long time ago. So this thing's moving from left to right, 893 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.599 and in my mind, I asked it, I said, hey, 894 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.920 can you could you get bright for me? 895 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.599 Like really bright? And it did. 896 00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:32.239 It got extremely bright, and then it dimmed down to 897 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.679 where it blacked out completely, and then it turned back 898 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.320 up again and got really bright again and then dimmed 899 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.119 back out again, and then it was it was gone, 900 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:46.000 it disappeared. So I was kind of I was astonished, 901 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.159 and I still am, like, you know, I mean so 902 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:50.679 part of the reason, you know, I was like, well, 903 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:53.679 I don't know what this is. I wanted to prove 904 00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.519 that this thing is real. So I think Stella sent 905 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.599 it here to prove that it's real. Just like the photo. 906 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.159 You don't accidentally take a photo of these things if 907 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.000 they don't want to be seen. I think it intentionally 908 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.000 let her take the photo so that I had proof 909 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.480 that it was there, whether other people believe me or not. 910 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.199 That's irrelevant. Wasn't what it was for me, so that 911 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:25.960 I could confirm that it was there. And then two 912 00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:30.639 days after I had seen the craft, I got home 913 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.760 from work. I'm at the car, I'm getting my stuff, 914 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.440 getting ready to go inside, and I stopped, you know, 915 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.920 because I'm still kind of like, you know, in awe 916 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.159 of what I had seen two days before, you know, 917 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.880 and I'm looking in that same direction that the craft 918 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.079 came from two days prior. I was out there for 919 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:54.239 maybe five ten minutes, you know, looking in that direction, 920 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:56.679 and then finally it showed up again. 921 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.719 It was there again. It moved in the same. 922 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:04.679 Direction, and it dimmed and got right the same way 923 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.760 that it did before, and then it went a little 924 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.920 bit further than it did the first time, and then 925 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.840 the lights went out and it disappeared. So that was 926 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.440 the second time. So it was kind of a confirmation 927 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:22.280 that I had seen something. So not only was it 928 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.960 on that first day that I had seen it, then 929 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.599 two days later I seen it again. Say hey, listen, 930 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:31.199 I'm here. And it wasn't just a fluke. It's like 931 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.800 I know what planes look like. I mean, the plane light, 932 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.400 it blinks, it's like a strobe this is totally different 933 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.559 what I seen. What I seen looked like if you 934 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:48.519 had a dimmer switch, like a dial on the light 935 00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:50.880 and you turn it up and you turn it down 936 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.719 at a slow rate of speed. That's what I saw, 937 00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.119 which is totally different than the strobe of an airplane. So, 938 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:03.039 like I said, I've been trying to get information from Stella, 939 00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.360 trying to figure out what's going on, and part of 940 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.599 me doesn't want to believe that any of this is real, 941 00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.360 so I've been pushing back the whole time, trying to 942 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:17.079 come up with prosaic explanations and what's going on. So, 943 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.599 you know, sleep paralysis, Yeah, people people have sleep paralysis, 944 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:21.840 you know. 945 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.880 So there's that, and then there's. 946 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.039 Hypnopopic and hypnogogic hallucinations. You know. I'm like, well, maybe 947 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.480 the symbol that I seen was just you know, something 948 00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.840 like that. So I think that that's part of the 949 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:39.039 reason why you know this this entity Stella keeps upping 950 00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:43.599 the ante and doing things as if to say, all right, well, 951 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.960 you didn't believe the first thing, so we're going to 952 00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.000 do this now. And then you didn't believe that thing, 953 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.239 so we're going to move on to another one. And 954 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.320 we're just going to keep doing that until you finally 955 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.400 understand that we are real. 956 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:00.239 We're here. 957 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.480 Even now, I mean, even though I've been presented with 958 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:09.639 the photograph and then seeing the craft, I still want 959 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.960 to push back and say, man, I don't you know, 960 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:14.880 I don't want to think that these things are real. 961 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.679 I mean, whether they're they're real or not. I mean, 962 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.400 it's in my mind. I just I don't want to 963 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.400 believe that they're real. So, like I said, I've been 964 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.519 I've been trying to communicate with Stella through my wife 965 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.920 and try to get information as to like what's going on. 966 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.719 It's really hard going. I mean, she doesn't want to 967 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:39.360 give me the information. But you know, throughout the time 968 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:43.719 that we've been communicating, you know, she claims to be 969 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:48.119 something like I think the term is anam kara, which 970 00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.119 is like a soul friend that and she says she 971 00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.199 deeply cares about me and that she's been following me 972 00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:00.840 through different incarnations. So the incarnation, it's not I don't 973 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:05.000 think it's one after the other. I think there are 974 00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:11.079 multiple realities, are like a multiverse where there's different versions 975 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.320 of yourself. You know, when people say that these entities 976 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:18.880 are extra dimensional. I don't think they really understand what 977 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:21.400 that means. I mean, it's hard for anybody to understand 978 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.519 what that means. But what I think is like this 979 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.079 reality that we're in is something similar to a simulation. Now, 980 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:36.280 whether that's a computer simulation or something like an organic simulation, 981 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.800 you know, it is, you know, questionable, like I don't 982 00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.440 know what's creating it. You know, you could say source 983 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.320 consciousness could be the thing that's creating it. But what 984 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:49.800 is source consciousness? Is it just something that came from 985 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:53.360 the quantum field? I mean it just coalesced and it 986 00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:57.360 is what it is or was it made by something else? 987 00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.679 And then we're inside that I don't know. I don't 988 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.880 but those are questions that I'm asking trying to figure 989 00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:07.599 out what is going on. But because of my near 990 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:13.320 death experience, I know that there's at least that. And 991 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.960 what I had seen was the darkness and the light, 992 00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.239 which to me is binary. It's zeros and ones again, 993 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:24.159 I mean simulation theory. 994 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:26.159 So there's that. I think. 995 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:32.000 You know, ultimately, you know, source consciousness is doing what 996 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:38.559 we're experiencing, so it's making everything similar to a dream. 997 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.960 You know, that goes to another question when you dream 998 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:45.280 at night, who's creating the dream. If you're creating the 999 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:50.440 dream at night, right, then you're creating a simulation. So 1000 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.159 all the things that you create within that dream are 1001 00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.800 a simulation. And that's what I mean by an organic simulation. 1002 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.760 You know, So when you dream, you're creating that reality. 1003 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.519 How big or expansive that reality is is irrelevant. Honestly, 1004 00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.840 you're still making that that reality. And if and if 1005 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.840 that's not the case, then you're looking at something that 1006 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.880 is somewhere else. Then you're still within the framework of 1007 00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.440 a source consciousness. Like I'm saying, I don't know what 1008 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.920 that source consciousness is. I mean, is it what we 1009 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:28.920 call God? It could be I mean, or it could 1010 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:33.440 be a hyper advanced super AI intelligence you know, that's 1011 00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:38.719 trying to figure out a question or a problem, and 1012 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.119 it's using all of us like virtual machines, you know, 1013 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:46.360 having experiences trying to figure it out. I mean, it's 1014 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.519 like I said, this subject is one of the biggest 1015 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.719 questions that anybody could answer, and I am woefully unqualified 1016 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.440 to figure it out. But that doesn't mean I'm not 1017 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.880 going to try. And like I said, I was trying 1018 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:06.199 to get information from stella. She says that for the 1019 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:11.440 most part, my core personality is the same across the 1020 00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:16.679 different timelines. She says, I'm negative, I'm stubborn, and I'm defiant. 1021 00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.679 She says that I am an old soul that has 1022 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.800 been soul traveling a long time, and that she is 1023 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.599 not the first in the position she is. There was 1024 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.599 one at least one before, but she doesn't know how 1025 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:33.079 many there were before that one. She said that she 1026 00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:36.159 had asked for the position. She says that my core 1027 00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:40.119 personality is the same no matter the situation or circumstance 1028 00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:41.519 that they put me in. 1029 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:43.440 And she says that I. 1030 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.159 Had broken the rules before and that I had been 1031 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.440 outside of the system. She also said that I'm I'm 1032 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:54.199 unpredictable and that my mind is complex and scary and 1033 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.920 this isn't like one conversation. 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The Paranormal 1044 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.239 Radio app free in Google Play and the iOS app store. 1045 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.079 You mean, I continue to meditate at night, you know, 1046 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:03.039 and just kind of relax and see what happens. And 1047 01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:08.000 then one night I heard another voice. It was the 1048 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:12.639 first woman's voice I'd ever heard while meditating, and she 1049 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:17.400 says hello, and that her name was in Ana, and 1050 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.320 I didn't know who that was, but there you go. 1051 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:21.039 I heard it. 1052 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:24.079 And then shortly after that and if she had a 1053 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.199 very beautiful voice to her, very alluring. And then shortly 1054 01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.239 after that I heard a man's voice what I assume 1055 01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:35.920 is a male voice, was very deep, like the actor 1056 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:40.519 Michael Clark Duncan, and it also had like a guttural 1057 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:46.800 bass to it, similar to like an alligator's bellows. It 1058 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:52.039 said hello, I am, and then I pushed back. It 1059 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.320 freaked me out. I didn't want anything to do with 1060 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.559 it and backed off of it. At a later date, 1061 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:02.039 I had asked Stella I'm like, you know, why would 1062 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.920 that that happen? Because you know, I looked into the 1063 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:10.280 name Inna, which led me to, you know, Sumerian text 1064 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.079 like the Mesopotamian religion, Sumerian you know, and all that stuff, 1065 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.920 and you know, now I understand some of what that is. 1066 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.039 But I asked her, I'm like, well, why would you 1067 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:27.679 know somebody as influential as Inana or what I presume 1068 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:32.760 to be anky introduce themselves to an average person. It 1069 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.000 doesn't make sense. And no, Stella told me they wouldn't, 1070 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.840 you know. I I told her that I'm just an 1071 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:43.559 average person. I mean, I don't have any political office, 1072 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.400 I don't have power, I'm not rich, I'm just a 1073 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.719 normal person that I'm not important. And she told me 1074 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:55.480 I was wrong, that I am. But I don't understand 1075 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.719 how or why and I don't. 1076 01:01:58.000 --> 01:01:58.360 I don't. 1077 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:03.159 I don't know why these beings have targeted me for 1078 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.599 doing the things. 1079 01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.079 That they do what they do. 1080 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:11.239 So over the course of these experiences, my wife is 1081 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:16.079 having dreams with with us being on on the ship. 1082 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.400 So there's a there's a ship that these entities are on. 1083 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:24.039 And Stella, so the Manses Lady is the person in charge. 1084 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.199 So there's a tall gray there that I've affectionately called Grumps. 1085 01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.800 So grump he's a very grumpy you know, kind of 1086 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.360 like he's in charge of the lower guys, so the 1087 01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:42.119 smaller grays on the ship, and they're whenever they do 1088 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:47.199 something wrong, like he's visibly annoyed. So, but one of 1089 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:51.440 the the first interactions was that, uh, we were on 1090 01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:55.880 the ship and my wife wakes up and she starts 1091 01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:58.239 moving around. So she has a high pain tolerance. She 1092 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:02.119 has a much higher pain tolerance than me. She's had 1093 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.159 dreams where they were trying to give her the whatever 1094 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:10.159 to sedate her and keep her down, and they talking 1095 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:13.280 amongst themselves and saying that they can't give her anymore 1096 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.840 because it would affect her, it would negatively, so they 1097 01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:21.840 wouldn't give her anymore. So she starts to wake up, 1098 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:27.079 and then eventually moves around the ship and sees other 1099 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.480 people in the area that we are at that are 1100 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:35.760 on tables in that room. That was one of her dreams, 1101 01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:40.199 and then another one where she's up she's moving around 1102 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:44.440 and Stella is there and allows her to move around, 1103 01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.679 and the grumpy gray he doesn't like it and opposes 1104 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.840 it and asks Stella why she allows it, and she replied, 1105 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:59.000 you wouldn't understand because she's in charge. He's not gonna 1106 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.440 question it at that point and just let her do 1107 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.079 what she wants. My wife is moving around the ship, 1108 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:10.039 notices that there's a container, and on that container has 1109 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:14.719 like a biohazard symbol, you know, and she doesn't touch it, 1110 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.599 but she's close to it, and the ground peak Gray 1111 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.360 realizes that she's close to it and immediately rushes over 1112 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:24.360 to pull her away from it and asks her if 1113 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.599 she did touch it, and she replies, no, I didn't. 1114 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.719 At that point, that's kind of when that ends. That's 1115 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:35.360 another dream that she had. Any case, she reports that 1116 01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.679 there's Stella on the ship and she's the manches lady. 1117 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000 The tall Gray is there. He's kind of in charge 1118 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.039 of the small guys. The small guys are tasked with 1119 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.519 going around and doing like whatever Mundane tasks. But she 1120 01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.159 also states that there's these smaller creatures there that she 1121 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.599 she calls wookies. So there may be you know, three 1122 01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:01.639 foot tall looks similar to the wookie Star Wars, but 1123 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.320 they don't talk and they don't telepathically speak to her, 1124 01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:09.559 But I believe that they have telepathic abilities. When she's 1125 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.400 up there, you know, she treats them kind of like pets, 1126 01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.960 you know, hangs out with them and then feeds them, 1127 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:20.000 treats and plays with them. That's in direct opposition to Grumps. 1128 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.400 I mean, he doesn't like the idea of it, but 1129 01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:26.760 is allowed to. There's other instances that she reports that 1130 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:31.480 while she's up there she's seen other entities. There was 1131 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:37.239 an instance where another mantis entity, not Stella, was also 1132 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.719 on the ship, walking past the room while she was 1133 01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:46.840 there with one of the wookies and seemed confused that 1134 01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:50.960 she was holding the animal, so he went in there. 1135 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:54.320 He pulled the animal from her hands and then put 1136 01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.079 it on the ground, and she went back to pick 1137 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.239 it back up again, and he put it back down 1138 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.800 on the ground, and she picked it back up again, 1139 01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.679 and at that point one of the small grays walked by. 1140 01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.800 He asked one of the small grays what is this? 1141 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.519 Is this normal? And the small grace said yeah, it is. 1142 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.119 And the mantis asked, well, who allows it, and the 1143 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:20.000 short grace said she does, at which point he went 1144 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:23.360 about his business and he walked out of the room. 1145 01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.840 So that was a separate dream. And then there was 1146 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.159 another dream where I was woken up, so I don't 1147 01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:33.159 remember being woken up. There was several instances where I 1148 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.719 was woken up in different dreams. I don't remember it, 1149 01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.920 but this is what was reported to me. The first 1150 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:44.800 time that I was woken up, she had convinced one 1151 01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.079 of the small wookies to wake me up. So I 1152 01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.239 don't know that they have some kind of psionic ability 1153 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:55.280 that allows them to do that or some ability to 1154 01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:55.599 do that. 1155 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.119 So it woke me up while I was on the table. 1156 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.559 As soon as I woke up and I looked at 1157 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.039 her and I said hon She said, the room was 1158 01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:10.599 flooded with grays and what I assumed was stella, So 1159 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:12.840 they all ran into the room and then the dream 1160 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:16.480 had ended. Then there was another instance with another dream 1161 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:22.840 where she had convinced an older wookie, so she was 1162 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:25.800 asking them to do it to wake me up, and 1163 01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:28.280 the room she was in a room full of them. 1164 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.519 You know, from what I understanding is is that there's 1165 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:37.000 there's cages of these these wookies on the ship, so 1166 01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:41.920 I assume that it's something like a breeding facility over 1167 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.039 these animals. But in any case, so there was a 1168 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.440 group of them and there was this older one with 1169 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.920 like disheveled hair like you know. It looked older than 1170 01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:54.119 the rest of them and was a little heavy set, 1171 01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.119 she said. She he walked toward her to accept what 1172 01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.079 she had asked to be done. She picked him up, 1173 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:03.800 or tried to pick him up, and he was heavier 1174 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.480 than the other ones, you know. Stopped trying to pick 1175 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.239 him up, and then held his hand and then walked 1176 01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.679 him over to me. So after she did that, he 1177 01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.800 did something and put his hand on me or something, 1178 01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.119 but it woke me up, So she said, as soon 1179 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:22.600 as I woke up, I sat up and then bolted 1180 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:26.279 out of the room and started running around. So at 1181 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:29.520 which case the small gray had come into the room 1182 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:35.199 and said where is he? And oh no, And then 1183 01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.399 she said that the small gray had went back out, 1184 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.680 and then the tall gray grumps came in and was 1185 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.520 asking where I was, and then commenced to say, well, 1186 01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:48.159 I'm gonna have to get contact Stella. So I don't 1187 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.960 know how they communicate, you know, wherever they are doing 1188 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:54.239 what they are, but he contacts Stella, and Stella is 1189 01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.520 in a meeting with her higher ups. So apparently there's 1190 01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:03.239 a high hierarchy of these beings, even the mantis beings 1191 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.000 that who are supposed to be at the top, that 1192 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:11.199 there's another whoever in charge of her. So in any case, 1193 01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.680 you know, she comes down there and then they assume 1194 01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:20.520 recapture me. So and then in the third instance where 1195 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:25.239 I was waking up, there was like a young Wookie, 1196 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:29.079 so I assume because it was young, it didn't know 1197 01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:32.880 any better, and she convinced it to wake me up. 1198 01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:38.560 So when she did, apparently I had made my way 1199 01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:44.359 to one of the jump ships that they have and 1200 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:49.479 stole it. So Brumps was informed. Brumps goes and contacts Stella. 1201 01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:53.720 Stella again is in another meeting, stops what she's doing 1202 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:58.640 to come and find me. My wife says that they 1203 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:04.439 put out a notice to other factions that the ship 1204 01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.640 that was out was rogue and it wasn't in control 1205 01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:12.119 by them, so they recaptured me because the ship had 1206 01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:15.399 stalled out and then brought me back. So Stella said 1207 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.039 that that wasn't the first time that I've taken one 1208 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.920 of their ships, and that I've taken one of their 1209 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:25.520 transport vehicles before. So when they when she was talking 1210 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.600 with Grumps before they went out to go get me, 1211 01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:33.039 she asked how many, and Grump said won. So then 1212 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.880 he knew that it was just me out there and 1213 01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:40.239 not all of us. It's pretty wild. Like like I said, 1214 01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:43.279 I don't want to believe it. I mean that there's 1215 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:47.439 this this scenario is going on, but this is what's 1216 01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.079 reported to me. I don't have those those dreams and 1217 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:55.840 those experiences. I have very vivid dreams about other things 1218 01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:59.840 that go on. Whether I'm having these experiences and then 1219 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:04.279 thinking that I'm having a dream about something else, like 1220 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:08.680 a screen memory, that could be possible, but I'm not sure. 1221 01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:13.640 So Stella says, since those incidents, whenever I go on 1222 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.720 the ship, they put warning signs up now to let 1223 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:21.319 them know that I'm there that beyond extra caution. So 1224 01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:24.079 after that event, you know, I was joking around with 1225 01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:27.079 my wife and I told her so, I was like, so, 1226 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:31.199 what was I like, something like bugs Bunny and you know, 1227 01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:34.560 just joking around, and she said that. Stella said, no, 1228 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.640 that I was more like Wiley Coyote instead, because of 1229 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:42.399 my core personality. Like I said earlier, there are other 1230 01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.640 factions out there. So whatever faction Stella is like, I 1231 01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.800 assume that factions would work similar to how we have 1232 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:53.279 different nations and then we have like a United Nations 1233 01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:56.720 or like there's a governmental system between them where they're 1234 01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.840 not all the same. You know, my wife had instances 1235 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.600 where she would have dreams where we would be abducted 1236 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:07.760 by gray entities that aren't part of Stella's faction. So, 1237 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:12.399 and it primarily happens after I do a deep meditation. 1238 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:16.840 The first time, it was reported that we were taken 1239 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.720 into the backyard and we were being brought through a portal, 1240 01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:25.600 and before we went through the portal, we were standing 1241 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:29.680 in the backyard and the one of the gray entities 1242 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:34.319 had grabbed onto her wrist to bring her through the portal, 1243 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:38.239 and then there was like a light that had came 1244 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:42.479 from her arm. That entity then let go of her 1245 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.640 arm and then went to another one of the entities 1246 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.560 that was there, one of the grays, and said, put 1247 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.720 them back. And he said, what do you mean why 1248 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.239 would we put them back? He said, because she's going 1249 01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.920 to be angry. He said, well, what are you talking about? 1250 01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:01.039 So he told the other gray to go back and check. 1251 01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:04.600 So the other Gray went back and then held onto 1252 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:09.119 her wrist her arm and then proceeded to bring us back. 1253 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:12.600 That was the first instance. We also had an instance 1254 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:17.600 where the like there was orbs in the house. So 1255 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:22.279 but they weren't Stella's faction. They were a different faction 1256 01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:26.479 that had been checking things out because I had been meditating, 1257 01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:32.640 and they focused their attention on my youngest son. So 1258 01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:36.199 while my wife was in the bathroom, she was getting 1259 01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:40.960 communications to go check on my son. So she quickly 1260 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.520 went up and went to go check, and when she did, 1261 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.039 he was sleeping on his bed. But there was a 1262 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:49.159 blue orb that was floating above him. And as soon 1263 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:54.119 as she had seen the blue orb, it quickly moved 1264 01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:57.439 and left, and as soon as it moved, there was 1265 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:01.439 a shadow entity that moved with it on the other side. 1266 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:06.159 So there was also an instance where my youngest son 1267 01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:07.760 had disappeared. 1268 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.720 So we were in I was at work. 1269 01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:14.279 My wife was at the house with the boy. He 1270 01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:18.439 was sleeping on the couch. She did some errands and 1271 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:22.800 some laundry, and she came back to check on him 1272 01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:25.960 and he wasn't on the couch. So she checked around 1273 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.720 the areas, checked the floor, she checked around, you know, 1274 01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.840 all around that area, and then immediately went to go 1275 01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.640 check the doors. All the doors were still locked. There's 1276 01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:37.840 no way he could have got out. So she's freaking 1277 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:41.840 out because you know, she thinks that he's missing. While 1278 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:47.399 she's looking for him, she hears him crying. So he 1279 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.399 was in the same spot that he was originally on 1280 01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:56.720 the couch. Whoever it was that took him immediately brought 1281 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.960 him back right after they took him. You know, maybe 1282 01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:04.560 they realized like who he was connected to or what, 1283 01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:08.079 but you know, it was it was quick, so they 1284 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.880 brought him back. So I think, you know, there's these 1285 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.399 factions and they don't step on each other's toes. 1286 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:17.680 So if they have a. 1287 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.439 Project or you know, something that's going on, they don't. 1288 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.159 And they realized that somebody else or something else is 1289 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.399 working on that or there or you know, protecting them, 1290 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.840 they won't mess with them and. 1291 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:31.279 They'll back off, you know. 1292 01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:34.039 And then there was another instance where I had been 1293 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:38.640 meditating and my wife reported that there was a dream 1294 01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:42.079 that she had where everything was black and she was 1295 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:43.239 being asked questions. 1296 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:45.880 You know, there was a woman and a man. 1297 01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.079 So the man who was asking her questions about things, 1298 01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.680 the man asked, where do you think you are? And 1299 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:54.760 she said on the ship. And she asked, well, where 1300 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:55.560 are the wookies? 1301 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:56.800 He said, what wookies? 1302 01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:00.359 He said, the wookies that are on the ship. The guy, 1303 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:03.760 he said that we don't have those. I don't even 1304 01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:07.079 know what you're talking about. So the woman then came 1305 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:11.680 into the conversation, and the guy asked the woman. 1306 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.359 What are wookies? Have you ever heard of these? 1307 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.479 And she said, yeah, I've heard of them, but only 1308 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:22.279 I've only ever heard of one other faction that has those, 1309 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:26.680 at which point her dream abruptly ended. So I think 1310 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.439 there was another instance where they figured out that we 1311 01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:33.720 were tied to something else or someone else and immediately 1312 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.399 brought us back. There was another dream where she was 1313 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:41.479 on the ship and she was After that, she was 1314 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.439 on the ship and she was playing with the wookies again, 1315 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.279 and she said that there was another tall gray that 1316 01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.760 she hadn't seen before who came in, and Stella was 1317 01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:56.119 there as well, and the tall gray had one of 1318 01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:59.359 those wookies with him and gave it back to Stella 1319 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:00.680 and said take it back. 1320 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.359 It's broken, And she said, well what do you mean. 1321 01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:08.039 She said, well, it but it wants constant attention, and 1322 01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:13.199 it wants it wants treats, so what's wrong with it? 1323 01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:18.319 So Stella replied that it came from the medium batch 1324 01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:23.199 and that it had had close contact with humans, at 1325 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:28.359 which point the tall gray looked surprised, and then that 1326 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.560 was the end of that dream. So I think, I 1327 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:35.720 think that these these wookie animals that they have because 1328 01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.760 they have some kind of psionic ability, I think that 1329 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.479 instead of being used as pets, you know, I think 1330 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.720 they're being used more like tools of some sort, like 1331 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:48.439 a work animal rather than a pet. Like if it 1332 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:50.600 was a pet, you know, you'd want to give it affection, 1333 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.840 you want to give it attention, I mean, because that's 1334 01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:56.079 why you have it. But it appeared as though these 1335 01:17:56.199 --> 01:18:00.439 entities use these animals more like a work animal rather 1336 01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.039 than a pet. So she had another dream and another 1337 01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:07.319 point where she had seen one of the reptilians on 1338 01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:11.279 the ship again. When she had seen the reptilian, it 1339 01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:16.319 looked confused and had asked one of the grays there 1340 01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.960 if that was normal. He said yeah, and asked who 1341 01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:25.079 allows it, and they said she does, at which point 1342 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:26.960 he went about his business and kept. 1343 01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:29.079 Moving, and that was the end of that dream. 1344 01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:34.439 My wife also had a dream where she was moving 1345 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:37.600 around in the ship, just kind of exploring, and she 1346 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:41.960 came on a room that had tubes in them that 1347 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.520 looked like babies in the tube, like human babies in 1348 01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.359 the tube, and the Grumps was there because he was 1349 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.920 tasked with following her around the ship to make sure 1350 01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.279 that she wasn't going to get into trouble. 1351 01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:56.560 So that's why there's always a gray there with. 1352 01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:59.239 Her as she's moving around the ship, just to make 1353 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:02.760 sure that, you know, nothing bad happens, especially after instances, 1354 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:06.760 you know, throughout. So in any case, she asked about 1355 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:10.119 the babies and wants to know if any of those 1356 01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.600 is hers. He points to one of them and tells 1357 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:18.399 her that that one, that that girl is yours, at 1358 01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:20.920 which point she says, I want to take it. I 1359 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:24.439 want to take it home, and Grumps tells her that 1360 01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.800 she can't, and if she did that, the baby wouldn't 1361 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:29.239 survive on earth. 1362 01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:30.920 There's no way that she can. 1363 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.399 After for a period of time after she had that dream, 1364 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:39.319 she was randomly hearing a baby cry in real life, 1365 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:42.359 you know, while she's conscious and awake at home. I 1366 01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:45.159 didn't hear it, but you know, she did, and she 1367 01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.039 was pretty distraught by hearing it. And that went on 1368 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.279 for at least a couple of weeks. She reported that 1369 01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.279 she had a dream where she had succeeded on actually 1370 01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:59.000 getting the baby out of the tube and got the 1371 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:02.279 baby out of the tube and had one of the 1372 01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:06.600 Wookies with it and use the Wookie to wake me up, 1373 01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:11.199 and that we were all in a ship trying to escape, 1374 01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:16.159 but we were eventually apprehended. So I think one of 1375 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:21.800 Stella's main goals is to change my core personality type. 1376 01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:25.800 She wants me to be more positive and to see 1377 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:31.760 the beauty in the chaos and stop being the negative, defiant, 1378 01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.039 stubborn person that I continue to be. 1379 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.640 Now. I don't know why. I don't. 1380 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.720 I'm not sure if it's altruistic and they're doing it 1381 01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:43.760 just because you know, they're trying to be nice, or 1382 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:48.600 because there's some ulterior motive associated with that. So, if 1383 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:54.359 these interdimensional beings are are tasked with, you know, timeline 1384 01:20:54.439 --> 01:21:00.760 manipulation or overseeing timelines, if they could change a constant 1385 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.880 something that is constant, somebody who's constantly negative or has 1386 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:08.319 negative you know, personality types such as myself, into a 1387 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.399 more positive being, it may look like it's a mark 1388 01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:17.680 of achievement or a like a thesis or magnum opus 1389 01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:19.760 or whatever you want to call it. So I don't know, 1390 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:22.000 maybe that has something to do with it. Then they 1391 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:25.359 see it as like a mark of achievement. At one point, 1392 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:29.279 I told Stella that I was willing to do what 1393 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:33.760 she asked me to do and try to shift into 1394 01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.239 this more positive version of myself. But I told her 1395 01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:40.239 I wanted I wanted something in return. So I told 1396 01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.800 her I wanted all of my memories back, So all 1397 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.680 of the things that I've done, I want to be 1398 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:49.399 able to remember that. If they've taken them from me 1399 01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:53.000 and that's why I don't remember, then I want them back. 1400 01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.680 And then on top of that, I also want my sovereignty. 1401 01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:01.600 I don't want to be just some you know, lab experiment. 1402 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:03.720 I mean, I'd rather be looked at like I'm a 1403 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:08.600 person rather than you know, a thing. So she took 1404 01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:10.960 a second or a few seconds to think about it, 1405 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:14.800 and then replied understood, and that she was going to 1406 01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:16.960 go back to her higher ups and see what she 1407 01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:20.640 can do. Months later, she came back to me and 1408 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:24.039 said that they were willing to give me my memories, 1409 01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:29.079 but only with safeguards in place. So I think that 1410 01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:34.279 part of the dreams that I'm having are memories of 1411 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:40.640 asked events or parallel events that are happening. And it 1412 01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:45.479 was unlocked when I asked to update my soul contract. So, 1413 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.239 like I said, I've had a lot of dreams myself, 1414 01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:51.479 but they weren't like my wife's where we're on the ship, 1415 01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:54.600 you know, and stuff happens on the ship. They feel 1416 01:22:54.680 --> 01:23:00.720 like distinct other me. There's just there're different versions of myself, 1417 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.560 you know, and the environment is different, so like the 1418 01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.399 technology that we have is different, and things that just 1419 01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:09.600 wouldn't make sense. 1420 01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:11.119 For example, I. 1421 01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.159 Had a dream where I had seen a It looked 1422 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:17.279 like a plane, but it was very robust and like 1423 01:23:17.319 --> 01:23:20.640 a thicker version of a plane, Like it's not aerodynamic 1424 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:22.880 at all, like in terms of like being able to 1425 01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:23.640 lift itself. 1426 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.159 So I think it has some. 1427 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:29.840 Kind of a anti graph technology that it uses. And 1428 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:35.279 the belly of that plane was used to hould like 1429 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:37.039 cargo containers. 1430 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:38.119 I saw on. 1431 01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:42.119 The bottom where it had the connectors where cargo containers 1432 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:44.600 would go, as if it would just float over the 1433 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.479 container and then somehow rip it onto the bottom of 1434 01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:51.600 it and then carry it off. But in that dream 1435 01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:56.279 I was standing in front of my doorway, and there 1436 01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.119 was the street in front of me, the sidewalk in 1437 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:02.920 front of me. It was an industrial complex or industrial 1438 01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:05.319 zoning area, so it was like I could see like 1439 01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:08.560 a water tower and there was you know, fence, and 1440 01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:13.399 then I seen that that plane in the sky moving 1441 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:17.439 and then it dipped like it started to turn sideways 1442 01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:20.880 and then nose down, and then it hit the ground 1443 01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:24.399 and it exploded. That's when that dream ended. The technology 1444 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.319 was definitely different. It's not something we normally have. I 1445 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.840 also had a dream where I had seen a craft. 1446 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.479 I was walking down the street, and as I was 1447 01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.359 walking down the street, I looked up and I seen 1448 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:40.800 a craft floating just above like houses, maybe three hundred 1449 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.520 feet in the air above ground level. 1450 01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.880 And it was a very distinct looking craft. 1451 01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:50.840 It looked kind of like a conch shell, but it 1452 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.319 had like spines, like three spines that went out the front, 1453 01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:57.920 and then it had spines that went up the back 1454 01:24:57.960 --> 01:24:59.720 of it and then pointed to. 1455 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:01.600 The back, so it kind of swept back. 1456 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:03.760 There was a bunch of spines swept back maybe like 1457 01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:08.800 nine to twelve, similar to how like a porcupine's quills 1458 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.199 sweep back across its back and that's how that craft. 1459 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.279 The spines were on the back of that craft, so 1460 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.840 it was just kind of floating, moving slowly from right 1461 01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:22.119 to left. And it freaked me out in the dream 1462 01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:25.239 when I seen it, so I immediately started to run, 1463 01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.119 and when I was running, I seen this really brilliant 1464 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.239 blue flash. Right after I seen that blue flash, there 1465 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:38.319 was this suction that was pulling me backward, lifting dirt 1466 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:42.279 and rock and debris off of the ground with it 1467 01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:45.680 and pulling stuff in toward the direction of where this 1468 01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.880 craft was. I grabbed a hold of a tree and 1469 01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:52.279 wrapped my arms and my legs around the tree as 1470 01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:56.239 it continued to pull me back, and that's when that 1471 01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:01.479 dream ended. So I've had multiple dreams where yeah, it's 1472 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:03.960 just like strange stuff happening, like I've seen my own 1473 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:06.399 death before in dreams. I know other people have reported 1474 01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.800 that as well. But you know, with the background that 1475 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.720 I have, I think that I may be seeing those 1476 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.560 parallel lives or other versions of myself, you know, and 1477 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:18.840 what's going on there. 1478 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.720 You don't always know you're in a cult. Not At first, 1479 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:34.720 it feels like truth, like purpose, like home. Then the 1480 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:38.680 rules change, the world gets smaller, and obedience becomes survival. 1481 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.600 Hidden Cults is the podcast that takes you inside the 1482 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:45.199 world's most disturbing belief systems. 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Not too long ago, 1493 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:34.960 one of my family friends had passed away and well it's. 1494 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:35.199 More like an acquaintance. 1495 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.600 He's a guy that I work with and his father 1496 01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:44.600 had passed away, and that night Stella told me that 1497 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:49.840 he was with his son driving in the corvette and 1498 01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:54.199 to tell his wife and she gave me her name 1499 01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:58.039 that everything was going to be okay. So I went 1500 01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:02.479 back and I asked my coworker to confirm if the 1501 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:06.680 his mom's name was in fact that and it was. 1502 01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:11.920 And I asked him if his father had his father's 1503 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:15.920 son or his brother had had a corvette, and he 1504 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:20.960 said yeah. So he confirmed both points that the what 1505 01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:24.039 the name of the wife was, and he confirmed that 1506 01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:27.600 his that the other one had the corvette. So for me, 1507 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:32.720 that was a confirmation that they have a link to 1508 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.880 the spiritual world on the other side. So, like I 1509 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.920 was saying earlier, with you know, this being a simulation, 1510 01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:45.800 you know that maybe another world that's attached to this 1511 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.239 one kind of like I don't know, like a storage 1512 01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:52.760 or just the next step in what we're doing, Like 1513 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:56.159 if this is a spiritual evolution thing, like maybe that's 1514 01:28:56.199 --> 01:28:58.640 like the holding area until you go back in to 1515 01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:02.279 try again or or what. So I don't know. So 1516 01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:05.600 there's that on top of that. You know, my mother 1517 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:10.279 recently passed away as well, Now my mom. When I 1518 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:14.960 had the experiences where I felt presences, I told my 1519 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.640 mom about it, and she told me that she believed 1520 01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:23.079 me because she could see things that other people say 1521 01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:27.039 aren't there. So and she's not the only one. My 1522 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:31.600 nephew has reported the same thing where he has seen 1523 01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:36.319 people that weren't supposed to be there. So, for example, 1524 01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:39.640 my nephew was at a at his house and he 1525 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.279 was in his room just relaxing, and he said, there 1526 01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.039 was this old woman that walked past his doorway and 1527 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.159 being astonished because he's the only one who's supposed to 1528 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:49.159 be in the house, you know, he doesn't know what's 1529 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.000 going on. And then as the woman walks past, this 1530 01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:53.439 little dog passes with her. 1531 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:54.960 He's freaked out by it. 1532 01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:58.079 He goes, he leaves, and he looks out the doorway 1533 01:29:58.399 --> 01:29:59.439 and she's gone. 1534 01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:00.359 She's no where to be found. 1535 01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:01.960 He looks around the house in order to be found, 1536 01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:04.399 so he goes, he leaves, he comes back, he talks 1537 01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.840 to the downstairs neighbor and explains what he had seen. 1538 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.119 And the downstairs neighbor had said that that was the 1539 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:15.359 description of the woman who had died in his house previously, 1540 01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:17.800 and that was the description of the dog that she 1541 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:20.239 had had, and there's no way that he could have 1542 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:24.800 seen them because she had died years previously. So that's 1543 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.439 an instance where you know, both my mother and my 1544 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:33.680 nephew have seen something that they are a person who 1545 01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:37.279 has already passed that there shouldn't be there. So so, 1546 01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:40.720 like I was saying, recently, my mother passed away. So 1547 01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:45.000 two weeks before my mother passing away, my wife goes 1548 01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.680 to pick up the cake for my son because his 1549 01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:51.479 birthday was around that time. So she goes to pick 1550 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:54.600 up the cake and she's waiting at the bakery. There's 1551 01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.319 a woman standing there with her, and then she tells 1552 01:30:58.359 --> 01:30:59.439 the guy what she wants. 1553 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:00.960 He goes back to go get it. 1554 01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:03.640 She said that there was another woman who came up 1555 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:07.319 who gave her a hug and then told her to 1556 01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:11.600 tell Jay that I said hi, and that everything is 1557 01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:14.239 going to be okay, and then she gives her a 1558 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:18.000 hug and then walks away. My wife turns back to 1559 01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.479 go deal with the cake situation and then realizes that 1560 01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:24.079 she didn't get the name of the person, so there's 1561 01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:27.039 no way to relay the information. She turns back. When 1562 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.800 she turns back, the woman's gone. So she looks at 1563 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:32.840 the baker who just comes out and says, did you 1564 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.600 see which way the woman went? So he says, what woman, 1565 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:38.319 and then points to the lady who's standing next to 1566 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.279 my wife. She says, no, it's not that woman. That 1567 01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:43.319 the other woman that was just here said there was 1568 01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.199 no other woman, so and then the lady who's standing 1569 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:47.720 next to her. 1570 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:50.840 She asked her if she. 1571 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:53.159 Had seen which way the woman went, and the woman 1572 01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:55.720 that was standing next to her also said that there 1573 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:58.439 was no woman there. So at the time, I didn't 1574 01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:01.239 understand what was going on. When my wife relaid the 1575 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:04.399 information to me that a woman had come up to 1576 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.720 her and did that, I didn't think anything of it. 1577 01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:09.159 I said, Okay, well, maybe it's just somebody saying hi, 1578 01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:11.840 and you know, I don't know, maybe it's because of 1579 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:15.479 you know, my friend's father who passed away. You know, 1580 01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:16.880 maybe it had something to do with that. So I 1581 01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:19.560 didn't think nothing of it. And then two weeks later, 1582 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.720 my mom passes away, and I didn't think anything about 1583 01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:24.920 it until my brother brought it up. He's like, well, 1584 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:26.920 didn't you tell me that she had an incident where 1585 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:30.079 she was at and then she got approached by somebody, 1586 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:32.239 And I say, yeah, but I I you know, I 1587 01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:34.479 didn't put two and two together until he said something 1588 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.880 about it. There's that, And then you know, I was 1589 01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:41.039 talking with my sister about it, and she's also had 1590 01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:44.560 an experience where she was at the hospital she had 1591 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:49.199 a premature baby. Before she had the baby, the doctors 1592 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:52.880 checked her out and told her that she was good 1593 01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:56.079 to go home. So they left, and she said that 1594 01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:00.800 a woman came into the hospital room and then told 1595 01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:05.199 her that she wasn't going anywhere and that she she 1596 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:07.680 wasn't okay and that the baby wasn't okay and she 1597 01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.359 needed to stay there, and that the woman left the room. 1598 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:14.359 Then the nurses came back in. When the nurses came 1599 01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:18.239 in to you know, help her leave, she told them 1600 01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:21.039 that the lady who came in told her that she's 1601 01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.640 not okay. 1602 01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:24.640 So they weren't sure who she was talking about. 1603 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:28.399 So the doctors they come back in and they're looking 1604 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:30.760 her over, and they decided to keep her there. Well, 1605 01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:33.840 they looked at the security camera footage and no woman 1606 01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:37.239 went into that room, but it showed in the camera. 1607 01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:41.720 From what my sister says is that the door opened 1608 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.560 as if somebody had pushed the door open and then 1609 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:46.880 somebody had come through. 1610 01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:47.680 You know. 1611 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:52.640 I just find it similar to the instance where you know, 1612 01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:56.319 my wife is getting the cake and then you know, 1613 01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:58.640 a woman comes up and then tells her everything's going 1614 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:03.159 to be okay. So also the the day that my mother, 1615 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:06.680 my mother passed away, on my way home, I had 1616 01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:11.119 a terrible headache all day. But on my way home 1617 01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.199 I noticed that there was a lot of birds flying 1618 01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:18.880 toward my vehicle and it just it was really odd. 1619 01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.039 It was enough for me to say, Hey, what's going 1620 01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:25.600 on here? So later on when I got home, I 1621 01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:29.319 started talking to my wife about it, and she said, 1622 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:34.359 Stella says that the birds were messengers, and messengers of what. 1623 01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:35.159 I don't know. 1624 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:39.600 So as the night goes on, I get a message 1625 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.239 from my aunt later that night that my mother had 1626 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:46.920 passed away. It was a it was a difficult moment. 1627 01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:52.800 A few weeks later, my wife has taking my youngest 1628 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:56.159 son to a social event at the fire hall. 1629 01:34:56.760 --> 01:34:58.039 When they got. 1630 01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:01.039 There, uh, they were they were going around looking at stuff, 1631 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:05.039 doing stuff, and she was standing there talking to somebody 1632 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:09.239 and she thought she saw the backside of my mother 1633 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.960 standing there, but she wasn't quite sure, so she kept 1634 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:13.680 talking to the. 1635 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:14.720 Other people that were there. 1636 01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:20.000 But my son afterward, because he was in the stroller, 1637 01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:24.199 My son afterward told her or that he. 1638 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:25.640 Had seen my mom. 1639 01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:29.800 Now he used my mom's name, you know what we 1640 01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:32.640 call her, but he didn't he hasn't met her. 1641 01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:34.239 I mean my mom. 1642 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:36.079 She had been sick for a long time, and she 1643 01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:40.359 had been in Kingston for like twelve years and had 1644 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:43.680 never met the boy. So and we don't really like 1645 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:47.239 talk about her like that at the house, so you know, 1646 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:51.039 he couldn't have overheard the name. But in any case, 1647 01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:57.640 he said that he had seen a portal open up, 1648 01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.720 because he at this point he's four years old, so 1649 01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:04.359 he said he had seen a portal open up and 1650 01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:08.000 the biggest big eyes that he had ever seen come 1651 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:11.239 out of the portal with a heavy set or a 1652 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:16.159 he said, a fat woman, and that she said what 1653 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:19.520 her name was and that she wanted to meet him 1654 01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:24.319 because she loves him. She had never been able to before. 1655 01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:27.159 You know, I think that was an instance where they're 1656 01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:32.680 where Stella is trying to make me happy and had 1657 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:38.159 my mom's spirit come through and see the boy. So 1658 01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.960 I think that there's a connection with the other side 1659 01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:43.399 and these entities. 1660 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:44.880 You know. 1661 01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.680 Since then, there's been other instances where like, like I 1662 01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:51.640 wasn't sure, like with the arrangements, if my mom was 1663 01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:53.600 going to be okay with the arrangements, and you know, 1664 01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:57.000 I was kind of stressing about it, and Stella said 1665 01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.720 that everything was okay, that mom mom liked everything, that 1666 01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.600 I was doing. She she thought I was crazy for 1667 01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:05.800 doing it, you know, but because she didn't want to 1668 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:09.399 have all of it done. It was because of the 1669 01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.640 the effort involved in doing what I did. But I 1670 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:15.680 did it so she and she was happy with it 1671 01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:17.720 and that she would never she could never be mad 1672 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:21.640 at me for that. There was that instance, And you know, 1673 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.880 I believe that my mom is still kind of hanging 1674 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.000 out and she doesn't want to move on. And I 1675 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:29.680 believe my mom is just as stubborn as I am, 1676 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:33.840 so she's not going to move on without knowing that 1677 01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:38.000 her kids are going to be okay. So occasionally, you know, 1678 01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.640 Stella will say something like, uh, you know you she'd 1679 01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:43.119 be like, you know, your mom wanted to let you 1680 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:45.720 know that, you know, she finds it interesting that you 1681 01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:49.359 still have this knickknack that she gave me, like however 1682 01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:52.560 many years ago, or like, you know, the other night 1683 01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:57.560 they were talking. She was talking about the cooking and 1684 01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:01.840 she made like a specific dish that was like but 1685 01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:04.359 it was a store bought one instead of a homemade one. 1686 01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:10.279 So Stella was relaying the recipe that my mom had 1687 01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:14.840 to my wife through Stella. So you know, I, like 1688 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:18.359 I said, I think that wherever we go after we're 1689 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:22.399 done here, they have access to it. I'm not sure 1690 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:26.520 that they primarily live there, or maybe it's just a 1691 01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:31.000 go through between where you know, it's just a you know, 1692 01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:36.279 a way through, but they have access to it for sure, 1693 01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:42.439 and that makes sense. If these entities are extra dimensional, right, 1694 01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:45.800 they have the ability to do things that we wouldn't 1695 01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:47.960 be able to. So the way that I'm looking at 1696 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.840 it is similar to like a video game. Okay, so 1697 01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.960 you have your characters in game. So if you look 1698 01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.680 at the people as if their characters in game, right, 1699 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:04.640 our time flows right. But to these entities, they're outside 1700 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.279 of the game in some respects, and then they have 1701 01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:14.279 access to the game through like avatars. So when they 1702 01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:17.960 say that the body is just a vessel, for example, 1703 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:21.079 like Bob Lazarre was talking about, now the entities were 1704 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:24.520 saying that the body is just a vessel, then it's 1705 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:27.279 similar to a video game where you have a character 1706 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:29.039 in the video game, and then you can control the 1707 01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:32.239 character in the video game. The technology that they have 1708 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:36.720 is so advanced that it appears as though it's magic 1709 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:40.119 to us, Like we just can't believe that they can 1710 01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:42.119 do what they can do. But if you look at 1711 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.560 it through the eyes of a video game or a simulation, 1712 01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:51.720 then everything makes sense. It's just these entities have admin status. 1713 01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:55.800 They can do things like god mode or fast travel 1714 01:39:56.119 --> 01:39:59.560 or you know whatever. At least that's the way that 1715 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:02.680 I see it currently with my current understanding. If I 1716 01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:06.239 get new data, then you know, that may update how 1717 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:07.359 I see the world. 1718 01:40:07.600 --> 01:40:10.199 But as it is now, it seems as. 1719 01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:15.520 Though that this is a sort of simulation, and that 1720 01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:20.239 like I said, I'm not sure it's a computer. I mean, 1721 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:26.239 it may be biological in nature. Consciousness itself may be 1722 01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:29.439 a fractal. It might be like a like a Mandel 1723 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:35.159 brought set where consciousness begets consciousness begets consciousness like a 1724 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:36.920 mirror in front of another mirror. 1725 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:39.680 It's like, how far does it go? I don't know, 1726 01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:41.399 but that's. 1727 01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:43.600 Why I stated earlier that this is one of the 1728 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:48.560 most complex questions that anybody can ask in the nature 1729 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:49.680 of reality itself. 1730 01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:52.239 Thank you for sharing all that, Jay. 1731 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:56.319 Yeah, I think that was the end, and I'm sorry. 1732 01:40:56.439 --> 01:40:59.319 I mean, it's taken so long to go through it all. 1733 01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:01.760 I just I know that there was a lot of information. 1734 01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:04.880 That's okay, you did just great and how'd you feel. 1735 01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:08.640 Uh, you know, now that I've said everything out. Part 1736 01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:10.800 of the reason why I didn't want to do the 1737 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:16.119 interviews because I didn't want to give what's happening freedoms. 1738 01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.000 I mean, like, once I say it out loud, it 1739 01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:24.479 gives it, you know, more life, more realism, because you know, 1740 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:27.079 part of me just doesn't want to accept that any 1741 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:29.720 of this is real. I don't want to accept that, 1742 01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:32.439 and that's why I keep pushing it back. Keep I 1743 01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:36.119 keep having pushback, you know, and I and questioning things 1744 01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:39.439 and like some of this stuff, if this stuff is real, 1745 01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:44.640 then this changes everything. Not all of it doesn't even 1746 01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:47.159 have to be real. There's just a few things in 1747 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:50.159 here that have to be real, and it's reality shifting. 1748 01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:51.720 And it's a huge ask. 1749 01:41:52.199 --> 01:41:55.840 Do you believe that your childhood sightings are connected with 1750 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:57.119 your later experiences? 1751 01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:59.760 Oh? Yeah, yeah, I didn't tell you before. 1752 01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:03.279 My brother he's had experiences too, So around the same 1753 01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:05.760 time that we seen the blue light, he reported seeing 1754 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:08.560 later on, after I talked to him about it, he 1755 01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:13.039 reported seeing the three beings with a with a like 1756 01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:19.600 a tannish color skin, with the large eyes that came 1757 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:21.680 into the room. Because we used to sleep in my 1758 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:24.600 mom's room. So I mean, it's it's all connected. They've 1759 01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.079 been watching me for a long time. I mean, and 1760 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.039 it's not just that now they're they're watching the whole family. 1761 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.159 Like I was telling you before I got the there's 1762 01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:35.479 grays that are posted up in my house. They're kind 1763 01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:38.640 of like guardians or sentinels, you know, because we've had 1764 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:42.720 these other entities that come in and snatch us up. 1765 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:46.399 Those other ones that are here kind of watch over things. 1766 01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:50.079 So you know, they don't have names. We gave them 1767 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:53.159 nicknames and they don't have to take those nicknames. So 1768 01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:55.560 but they they kind of do like when they want 1769 01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:59.279 so we Grammond is the name that I gave the 1770 01:42:59.279 --> 01:43:05.279 one who likes to mess with the electronics. Graymond is 1771 01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:09.439 the one who messes with electronics, so he does like 1772 01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:12.800 the computer stuff. And I'm pretty sure he's the one 1773 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:18.279 who posted the second picture of the gray entity that 1774 01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:22.000 was that's in my attic. It doesn't stay there, it's 1775 01:43:22.039 --> 01:43:24.439 just it was there, and they took a picture. One 1776 01:43:24.479 --> 01:43:28.640 of them took a picture probably with one of our phones, 1777 01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:32.880 and uploaded it onto my social media. 1778 01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:34.800 Yeah, I didn't do that. 1779 01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:38.199 I was in the shower when that got posted right, 1780 01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:40.840 and then my wife was busy doing stuff in the 1781 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:42.640 living room, so she didn't do it. 1782 01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:44.239 I asked her, are you doing it? 1783 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.199 So you know, the only other option here is that 1784 01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:52.680 my wife is some kind of super secret spy agent 1785 01:43:52.880 --> 01:44:00.560 level of competence and is running some unimaginable campaign to 1786 01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:04.920 get me to believe whatever it is that she's telling 1787 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:08.720 me or these things exist. And I find it really 1788 01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:11.720 hard to believe that she has the aptitude to pull 1789 01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:15.039 off something like that. So well, like I said, you know, 1790 01:44:15.159 --> 01:44:16.800 we have the grays that are posted up here, So 1791 01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:19.399 we got Graymond right, so he's like the tech guy. 1792 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:23.560 And then Big Eyes is kind of the one who 1793 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:27.039 watches over my youngest son. And then we have what 1794 01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:30.399 I call the tweedles, so tweedle dumb and tweedlede because 1795 01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:31.800 they like to mess with things. 1796 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:33.600 They think they're helping, but they're not. 1797 01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:36.640 So they mess with my coffee pot and cause it 1798 01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:40.760 to overflow, or they take like they mess with our 1799 01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:44.479 animals and then get all our reptiles all riled up 1800 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:46.840 and start like banging against cages and things like that. 1801 01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:51.680 So I mean, we have the tweedles, and then there's 1802 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:55.079 a new one that showed up that's friends with Big 1803 01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:58.239 Eyes called Terry. I didn't know about this one until 1804 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:01.560 my youngest son notified me that Big Eyes has a 1805 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.479 new friend named Terry. He's scared of humans, so he 1806 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.439 kind of like backs off. I asked which one it 1807 01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:11.840 was in the photo, and Stella confirmed that it wasn't 1808 01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:15.319 any of the normal ones. So I'm assuming that that 1809 01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:18.560 was Terry who got the photo taken of. I'm not 1810 01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:22.640 sure so, but but yeah, there's a lot, man, there's 1811 01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:25.039 a lot going on, you know. I just I don't 1812 01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:28.159 want to believe that it's real. But I can't say 1813 01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:32.359 that it's not because all of the experiences that I've had. 1814 01:45:32.439 --> 01:45:35.479 You know, you can you can explain away certain things, 1815 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:38.399 right Like you can say, you know, it's just sleep 1816 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:43.640 paralysis or hypnopompic hallucinations or I mean it's uh, you know, 1817 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:45.439 when you when you when I wake up, I see 1818 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:49.279 symbols sometimes, so I mean, they say that that's phosphenes. So, 1819 01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:54.239 but I think that they're just trying to make excuses 1820 01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:58.000 for the thing because they don't understand the thing. So 1821 01:45:58.399 --> 01:46:00.880 and I think science and religion are both trying to 1822 01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:04.920 solve the same question, but they don't understand that they're 1823 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:08.239 they're looking. They're like if you have two blind people 1824 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:13.279 trying to describe what they're seeing, right, or what they're experiencing, 1825 01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:16.439 and one person who's blind grabs a hold of the 1826 01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:19.039 elephant's leg and tells you it's a tree, and the 1827 01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:21.600 other person grabs a hold of the trunk right and 1828 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:23.840 tells you that it's a snake. Because they're they're using 1829 01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:25.880 the senses that they have, they don't have the ability 1830 01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:28.840 to see that it's an elephant, so they're using their 1831 01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.880 other senses to tell them what it is. So the 1832 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:34.119 one is wrong because he says it's a tree, obviously 1833 01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:36.560 it's not. The other one's wrong because it's it's not 1834 01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:39.760 a snake, right, But neither one of them understand that 1835 01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:42.279 they're they're trying to describe the same thing, and they're 1836 01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:46.000 describing aspects of the same thing, but on different sides. 1837 01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:48.039 So at least that's how I see it. 1838 01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:50.279 Yeah, that is true. Are you religious? 1839 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:54.439 I was baptized Roman Catholic, but I've never practiced. You know, 1840 01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:57.960 I'll go to a church during events, you know, when 1841 01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:01.279 i'm asked to. You know, half of my kids are baptized. 1842 01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.760 The other have haven't. I've also been married in a church, 1843 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:08.560 so but not overly religious. No, but that that's part 1844 01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.479 of the reason why I'm trying to understand what all 1845 01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:13.560 this is. I mean, and I'm looking I mean, because 1846 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:16.760 it's up to everybody. It's your own personal choice right 1847 01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:21.640 to look into these things, use your constructive criticisms or 1848 01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:27.239 your your your your own judgment discernment to try and 1849 01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:28.680 figure out what's going on. 1850 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.079 So, I mean, which ones the true faith? I mean, 1851 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:32.640 I don't know. 1852 01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:35.039 I don't know which one is the true faith, but 1853 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.199 I mean, you have multiple options. It's like this person 1854 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:40.720 says this, this person says that, so on and so. 1855 01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:41.760 Forth down the line. 1856 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:41.960 You. 1857 01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:44.399 I mean, and part of the reason why everybody is 1858 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:48.119 fighting is because of these belief systems that they don't 1859 01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:50.800 even know that they're they're true or not. They're just 1860 01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:53.960 they're basing it off of what other people are saying. 1861 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.239 Specifically with religion, you know, they're basing it off of 1862 01:47:57.319 --> 01:48:00.000 texts that happen way back when. They may have artifacts 1863 01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:02.720 from back then, but they witness accounts of the people 1864 01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:05.159 who've witnessed the miracles ain't around no more so you 1865 01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:05.960 can't really tell. 1866 01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:09.039 So it's just this long drawn. 1867 01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:11.520 Out like what the hell I don't I don't know, so, 1868 01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.479 but at this point, from my own personal experiences, there's 1869 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.840 something going on. There isn't there is an afterlife. There 1870 01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:23.359 is something outside of our reality, whether it's you know, 1871 01:48:23.880 --> 01:48:27.199 God through the Christian faith or the Jewish faith, or 1872 01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:32.960 the Monad through Gnostic faith or uh, everything is shiva, 1873 01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:37.079 like the Chevaism says that you know, everything is just 1874 01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:41.520 Shiva playing it, playing a divine game, you know. It's 1875 01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:44.840 it's up to every person to figure it out for themselves. 1876 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.239 At this point, like I said, I'm pretty sure there's 1877 01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:52.000 something outside of this system, and I'm pretty sure that 1878 01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:56.279 when I died I seen it. I seen it and 1879 01:48:56.399 --> 01:48:59.319 I didn't know so when I looked in it to Kashmir, 1880 01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:04.359 Shavaya is they describe the egg of creation in the void, 1881 01:49:05.159 --> 01:49:08.479 So they described the exact thing that I seen, But 1882 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:12.319 I didn't read that until like three years ago, and 1883 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:14.079 when I had my near death it was over twenty 1884 01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.600 two years ago, so there's no way for me to 1885 01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:21.439 have known that information. So from my personal perspective, I mean, 1886 01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:25.600 that makes sense to me, Like Kashmir Shavaism makes sense 1887 01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:26.560 to me that we. 1888 01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.520 Are all of the one. We're all of the. 1889 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:33.920 One, the source where everything is Shiva, and we're just 1890 01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:38.680 all having divine play. We got bored and we created 1891 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:41.640 a world to play in it. So it's no different 1892 01:49:41.800 --> 01:49:45.159 than a dream. Everything is just whether you know, when 1893 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:48.279 you say simulation, it's no different than a dream. When 1894 01:49:48.319 --> 01:49:51.199 you're dreaming, it's the simulation. It's the same thing. Like 1895 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:53.479 I said earlier, if you're if you're dreaming it, are 1896 01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:55.800 you making it or is something else making it? 1897 01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:59.640 Either way, it's being made. So I'm on the fence. 1898 01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:02.880 So the way I'm looking at it personally right now, 1899 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:07.920 I see that we are in a in a gnostic reality, 1900 01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:14.760 nestled within a Chevak reality. So we created this gnostic 1901 01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:21.319 reality as the game, and then the breakout through the 1902 01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:25.680 Arkans and the demi Urge as like the bosses. 1903 01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:26.279 Of the game. 1904 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:29.399 And then once we beat that, we go back to 1905 01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.760 the Monad and you realize that the Monad and the 1906 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:35.880 source creation for Shiva are the same thing. They're just 1907 01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:39.079 two different ways to go about it. The Monad is 1908 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:41.119 just it is what it is, and it does what 1909 01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:45.520 it does on its own without knowing that it's doing it. 1910 01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:49.520 It's just creating to create, whereas you know in Chevaism, 1911 01:50:49.600 --> 01:50:53.399 it's like you're Shiva, you created all of this, and 1912 01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:57.560 then eventually you put all the the legos back in 1913 01:50:57.640 --> 01:51:00.560 the box. So when they see Siva, they see him 1914 01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:03.079 as the destroyer. Oh no, he's going to destroy everything 1915 01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:06.079 and he's taking apart the lego is putting him back 1916 01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:07.760 in the box so that we can create again. It's 1917 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:10.800 a cycle, it goes on forever. That's where I'm at 1918 01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:14.600 with religion right now. I can't prove it. Most people 1919 01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.319 can't prove their religions to be real or not. But 1920 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.319 like I said, it's up to each individual person, because 1921 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:25.720 each individual person is their their own consciousness moving through 1922 01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:29.119 through the maze. We're all finding our trying to find 1923 01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:30.560 our way through the maze. 1924 01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:32.960 In all different places, all different speeds. 1925 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:37.479 Right In Gnosissism, that's the process of nosis, of knowing. 1926 01:51:37.920 --> 01:51:40.600 So once you know it, you know that's the only 1927 01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.439 way out is to know it and know that the 1928 01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.199 demiurge and the Arkans that this world that we're in, 1929 01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:52.079 that they've constructed, this three dimensional world, is theirs, right, 1930 01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:54.680 But we are not of it. We are of the monad, 1931 01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:57.239 so we have to find our way out, right. So 1932 01:51:57.319 --> 01:51:59.880 once you because if you fight it, if you fight 1933 01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:03.239 the demiurge, that's what he wants. He wants you to fight. 1934 01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:05.680 He wants the loos he feeds on that, he feeds on, 1935 01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:10.319 the negativity, he feeds on, the the constant fighting, that's 1936 01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:13.800 what he wants. But if you realize that he doesn't matter, 1937 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:18.359 and that none of what he does matters, and that 1938 01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:21.359 you aren't of it, and you can find your way out. 1939 01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:24.960 So but I think that's part of the game, is 1940 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.800 to find our way out of the system. And like 1941 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:30.840 I had said earlier, you know, Stella had told me 1942 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:34.079 that I had found my way outside the system before 1943 01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:37.720 I broke the rules before and she told me that 1944 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:41.479 whoever is in charge of this simulation this place has 1945 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.560 put safeguards into it because of things that I've done. 1946 01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:48.640 So I think that that's why they're they're following me, 1947 01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.560 not because of you know, me being some important thing 1948 01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:55.840 that's going to change things, or it's because I've done 1949 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:59.079 things that they don't like that I've done. So she's 1950 01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:02.920 more like a interdimensional parole officer. That's how I look 1951 01:53:02.960 --> 01:53:05.520 at it, you know, keeping me out of trouble, making 1952 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:07.680 sure I'm not going to open the doors that I'm 1953 01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:08.279 not supposed to. 1954 01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:10.680 This is just like that film, what was it, Jim 1955 01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.079 Carrey film? One word? He's in like a. 1956 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.159 TV show, Oh, the Truman Show. 1957 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.560 That's it, The Truman Show where he finally opens up 1958 01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:18.720 that door to the studio. 1959 01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:22.279 Yeah, but we're all like that. It's everybody's like that. 1960 01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:26.159 It's everybody is creating their own reality for themselves. So 1961 01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:29.239 it's everybody's figuring their own way out as far as 1962 01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:32.760 I know. I mean, that's my working hypothesis, is that 1963 01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:34.239 we're all trying to find our way out. 1964 01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:36.880 Now, what's really going on? I don't know. 1965 01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:39.479 Like I said, it could be that it's just a 1966 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:43.239 like an AI program that's using us as virtual machines 1967 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:45.640 to train the AI program. 1968 01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:47.520 I mean, it's no different than you know. 1969 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:51.119 What the AI modelers are doing now. They do the 1970 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:54.279 same thing, like they they run the virtual simulation before 1971 01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:57.039 they have the real world robot with the AI in 1972 01:53:57.079 --> 01:53:59.600 it to do the said task. So they do it 1973 01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.279 a certain amount of times before it learns how to 1974 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:05.159 do it. But it's all virtually before it does it physically, 1975 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:08.199 so it could be doing the same thing. So because 1976 01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:10.199 it doesn't make sense, It's like, how many times do 1977 01:54:10.199 --> 01:54:11.520 you have to experience being born? 1978 01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:12.319 How many billion? 1979 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:14.279 There's billions of people in the world. Do you think 1980 01:54:14.279 --> 01:54:17.600 that you wouldn't have to know after the first billion times? So, 1981 01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:20.159 but the same could be said for any other action. 1982 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:23.399 So really, what is it after? It would be after 1983 01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:26.399 whatever novel experiences that you have. Anything new, it would 1984 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:28.479 be after that. And the only way that you can 1985 01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.039 get to the new is by new combinations. You combine 1986 01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:33.479 things that you weren't normally combining before to get to 1987 01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:34.079 said thing. 1988 01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:38.359 So pretty deep, jay as certainly loads to unpack. 1989 01:54:38.680 --> 01:54:40.800 Like I said, that's where my mind is. I'm not 1990 01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:43.640 the smartest person in the world. I mean, I didn't 1991 01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:46.159 even go to college. I just caught up in real 1992 01:54:46.159 --> 01:54:48.399 world stuff, you know. I mean, and I'm just I'm 1993 01:54:48.439 --> 01:54:51.840 an average guy trying to understand what's going on. 1994 01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:53.279 But I'm not sure. 1995 01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:56.800 I'm not sure that those wookies man or whatever. Like 1996 01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:00.479 I've heard one other person talking about them. It was 1997 01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:05.399 one of the military guys, the older fellow kind of stout. 1998 01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:08.319 In fact, I can't remember his name, but he's only 1999 01:55:08.359 --> 01:55:11.359 ever mentioned it once that they're they're there. But I 2000 01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:14.199 can't help but think that, you know, instead of being 2001 01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:18.399 the wookies, maybe there's a connection between them and the Bigfoot. 2002 01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:22.399 Because if if they're doing genetic manipulation right, and they're 2003 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:25.760 they're doing whatever they're doing, I mean, they could also 2004 01:55:25.880 --> 01:55:29.800 have the DNA for these these other beings, these the Sasquatch, 2005 01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:33.359 and then do whatever to make the things that they have, 2006 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:36.680 So I mean they could be their product. I mean, 2007 01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:40.039 humanity could be their product. I mean if you look 2008 01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:43.359 at the stories of the Onunaki, you know, and the 2009 01:55:43.399 --> 01:55:46.239 watchers coming down and doing what they're doing. I mean, 2010 01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:48.640 like I said, I looked into the Sumerian thing too, 2011 01:55:48.960 --> 01:55:51.039 but it was only after that I heard that name 2012 01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:53.600 in my mind which led me down that path. 2013 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:54.840 I didn't hear it before that. 2014 01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:59.840 So I mean, there may be something to this Sumerian myth, 2015 01:56:00.840 --> 01:56:05.319 and you know, maybe they're describing something outside of the 2016 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:08.000 system that we're in now. I mean, it may not 2017 01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:11.880 be that it was here physically. I mean, it could 2018 01:56:11.880 --> 01:56:15.359 be somewhere else. I don't think it's what we think 2019 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:20.119 it is, So what mainstream people think it is. I 2020 01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:22.920 think they're content with letting us think that it's that 2021 01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:25.600 as a form of misdirection. 2022 01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:29.479 Easier to absorb, isn't it. It's a really complex subject. 2023 01:56:29.720 --> 01:56:35.359 People have so many experiences and different experiences, subjective experiences. 2024 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:36.760 It's like a big onion. 2025 01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:37.239 You know. 2026 01:56:37.359 --> 01:56:40.720 The way that it all fits is that it's all consciousness. 2027 01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:45.680 Consciousness is fundamental. Everything starts as a thought, so you know, 2028 01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:48.239 even you know, lifting your hand up. I mean there's 2029 01:56:48.319 --> 01:56:50.680 electrical signals that come from the brain, but where does 2030 01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:53.399 the brain get the thought to do that, to send 2031 01:56:53.399 --> 01:56:57.840 the signal? Right, So it's all about consciousness. So ultimately, 2032 01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:00.439 if we are all part of source, right, and we're 2033 01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:04.119 all we are of source, and we have some limited 2034 01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:07.520 ability that source has, like if we're just fractals of it, 2035 01:57:07.960 --> 01:57:11.239 we may be just a diminished version of it, you know, 2036 01:57:11.319 --> 01:57:14.119 trying to evolve and become because like I was saying earlier, 2037 01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:19.359 like we could be the way like consciousness, right, could 2038 01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:23.680 be pro creating. It could be like was it mitosis 2039 01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:25.079 or is it cellular division? 2040 01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:26.239 Where it divides itself. 2041 01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:31.159 So it's just it's dividing itself right into these these 2042 01:57:31.199 --> 01:57:34.560 different vessels and then those different vessels or the end 2043 01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:38.720 the consciousness in those vessels goes through this journey of 2044 01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000 growth to get to the point to where it can 2045 01:57:41.039 --> 01:57:44.119 be what the original was, and then it continues on 2046 01:57:44.239 --> 01:57:47.840 and does it again. So who knows how many source 2047 01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:50.520 consciousnesses there are. That's why I said, if it's like 2048 01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:52.800 a mirror in front of another mirror, I mean, it 2049 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:55.760 could be infinite for all we know. It could be finite, 2050 01:57:56.479 --> 01:57:59.359 or it could be infinite how many consciousness. 2051 01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:01.479 They may have all come from one. There may be an. 2052 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:05.079 Ultimate source consciousness, but that doesn't mean that whatever is 2053 01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:08.039 creating this reality is the source consciousness. 2054 01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:10.000 You must wreck your head sometimes. 2055 01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:11.600 Oh yeah, you know, I get bored. 2056 01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:15.000 Rake and dirt, great stuff, Jay, Okay, Jay, I really 2057 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:17.199 appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners. 2058 01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:18.760 Yep, thank you for having me. 2059 01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:21.159 You're more than welcome. It's great to meet you. Okay, 2060 01:58:21.399 --> 01:58:24.880 take care of yourself and we will speak soon. All right, bye, 2061 01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:27.720 thank you bye for now. Well, that is all for 2062 01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:31.319 this episode. Keep updated and connected with a show on x, 2063 01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:34.840 Facebook and Instagram, And if you have an encounter that 2064 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:37.680 you'd like to share on the podcast, you can email 2065 01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:42.399 me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you 2066 01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:44.800 can reach out to me via the contact page on 2067 01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:49.600 my website, UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank 2068 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:52.279 you to Jay for sharing tonight, and thank you all 2069 01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:55.680 for listening. I will be back next week. Till then, 2070 01:58:56.119 --> 02:00:00.359 stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye, s