Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka. It's colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for getting your pot on. Thanks
for telling a friends, spreading the word.
Speaker 2: About the pirate ship.
Speaker 3: Danny's here.
Speaker 2: Danny just said to me, you're ready for the weekend.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means anymore, because I
know what it means, like you need a break.
Speaker 2: But to me, my weekend starts with Thursday night football. Yeah,
how that work on Fridays? Right? But I kind of cruise.
Speaker 3: But I I don't even know anymore. I am in
a point that I never thought i'd be at in
my life, and I don't know which end is up.
Speaker 2: I know that feeling, and it's okay. I've been there
a few times.
Speaker 3: Everything is, everything's working out, everything's fine. You could let
yourself go down a path of negative thinking and stuff. Uh,
there are frustrations. You know, you're trying to work some
kinks out here here and there, you know, and then
there's things that I focus on that I shouldn't focus on,
Like I'm pretty sure I'm being lied to by some
people and it's just you know, and there's nothing to.
Speaker 2: Do with anything.
Speaker 3: But there's a piece of me that goes well, you know,
and I can play out this, you know how you
do the scenarios in your head, because if I have
to have a conversation about this, here's what I'll say.
And I'm like, you know what, I'm just tired. I
don't I don't care. I always say, and I mean this,
if you want to, you will, If you want to,
you will, And that's it. I have no more to
say about anything. If I want you, I will. If
you want to, you will. And that's the way that
the shit goes.
Speaker 2: That's it. But it's a tesla would say the way
it is, the way it is, the way it is,
that's the way it goes, well, right, And I just
repeat the line over and over. But you know, and
then New York they say it is what it is.
I'm having them. His mother gets upset when I talk
about him on the podcast.
Speaker 3: But okay, and I don't mean, I don't mean that
like dismissively, just that I think that Jamison's having uh,
trying to find his way, and he wants to be
on the basketball team, but I think he's nervous about basketball.
And now he's an ankle injury. And I'm not sure
how big the ankle injury is or is not. We
were addurgent care. It's not broken. I don't know. There's
off season practices.
Speaker 2: Going on now. Practice.
Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't really want to go to that
tonight because I can't play because I got the ankle thing.
But I don't think these kids like me, And there's
I don't know, And I just think that the truth
of the matter is that we live our life in
our head and we have to realize that there's no assertion.
No one can do anything to you. They really can,
and you've got to just find that inner God voice,
your inner Jesus there that because you are made in
the likeness of.
Speaker 2: And just just go baby, yes.
Speaker 3: It's just like it just doesn't matter if someone's lying
to you or eliminating things or dancing around things.
Speaker 2: They're not worth your time. No, just let it go,
Let it go, let it go, Let go, Let God, Billy.
Speaker 3: Uh, what drives trends. I had this thought today, what
drives trends. There seems to be a trend now with
movies that have younger men with older women. Oh really,
And when I say trend, I can think of three
movies right now. Yeah, I know if one that have that, Like,
no one's making a big deal about it.
Speaker 2: But isn't Julia Robertson one of those? Well I don't know,
she's like the older woman, not.
Speaker 3: The ones I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it's oh, maybe it's that chick. Oh gosh, Hathaway, Yeah, Hathaway,
Anne Hathaway's won, and then Nicole Kidman's and the other one.
Speaker 3: So now, look, this isn't something new. I don't want
to say that the older.
Speaker 2: Getting old Anne Hathaway is now the old broad Day
in the movie.
Speaker 3: I get to that. But here's my now. Now, try
to follow me on this because I just have going
there's this trend that seems to be more accepting. It
was somewhat daring and risque in nineteen sixty seven to
have the graduate, yes right where he sleeps with an
older woman. This is Robinson, missus Robinson.
Speaker 2: Joe Demaggio took total offense to it. Yes, I think
he goes about him because everything was about him.
Speaker 3: So uh, right now on Netflix you could go tonight
if you didn't want to watch Thursday night football or whatever.
There are three movies where it's older women with a
younger man. There're three right now. Uh, my man, Jina
has flamed up because I've seen all three of these.
Speaker 2: I thought that was the title for a movie. No, no, No.
Speaker 3: Lonely Planet is the latest rom com that I saw.
It has Liam Hemsworth and Laura Dern and they get
together in this movie.
Speaker 2: By the way, she has a book out, Laura Durn
Laura Dern does about her mother, okay, in a relationship
with her mother, Okay. Interesting. I had to kill some
time yesterday at Barnes and Noble and like he's got
a yeah about what Jurassic Park?
Speaker 3: But it was about her mom, her mom. Yeah, it's
probably an interesting mother daughter relationship.
Speaker 2: Was her mother important? What was she famous? While her
father was? Her father was helped me out here, It's uh,
I'm too. There's a lot of nepo babies in Hollywood,
but she is, like it took me years to find
out that Jamie Lee Curtis was Tony Curtis's daughter.
Speaker 3: Right, I had no idea, Right, you wouldn't. And she
did well on her own, right, and Laura the same thing.
Bruce Dern as her father. Okay, but in this movie, now,
in real life, Laura Dern fifty seven, Liam Hemsworth thirty four. Okay,
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like a maid. I don't want to say
a maid of Somber August.
Speaker 3: How many thirty four year olds in real life do
you know that are banging fifty seven year old women?
Speaker 2: Give me one my ex wife.
Speaker 3: Stop it, that non's your ex wife. How many thirty
four year old men do you know that are banged?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We're not talking we're talking about yeh, we're talking.
Speaker 2: About younger man. Yeah. The rhino with the young chick
is kind of common.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, almost more.
Speaker 2: There is one couple.
Speaker 3: Yes, in fact, what are you looking over your shoulder for?
Speaker 2: You have a poster on your window of somebody who's
actually in that situation? Really? Yeah? Oh yes, yes, her
boyfriend is significantly yes, yes, okay, that is one relationship,
and I'm trying to think of are there more not
that I'm aware of. Okay, that's the only one that
I know of. Okay, A Family Affair is the other movie.
That's one with Zach Effron Nicole Kidman real life. She's
fifty seven, he's thirty seven. Twenty year ages difference, he's
thirty seven. Yeah, wow, I know high school. I said
together my boys were little. Yeah, right now they're twenty
three and twenty four.
Speaker 3: And then the idea of you with an actor I'm
really not familiar with Nicholas Gladysine I think is his name.
In Anne Hathaway, she's forty one, he's thirty.
Speaker 2: But even there, I know the older chicks are younger
than us.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's that a fucking old lamb. But I go,
I call it a pattern. When I see things of
three or more, I'll say there's a pattern. I think
there's a trend and influences. Here's what I say a
trend is. And I had to write this down so
I wouldn't forget influences from the broader social and cultural landscape,
determine a particular design, trend or narrative. So something that's
beyond the broader social and cultural So could it be
porn and I know that sounds ridiculous. I know it does.
And I know I can see you look like you've
been into elemon.
Speaker 2: I said eleven so much, but more like I'm trying
to like follow the logic.
Speaker 3: Two of the most searched terms worldwide terms yes are
milf and mature. Wow. Yes, okay, right, mother, I'd like
to bang and mature I would have thought it, But.
Speaker 2: Like blood pressure, heart disease. No in terms of porn.
No no, no, no no no in the porn.
Speaker 3: So I'm going influences from the broader social and cultural
landscape porn where the top five in every country around
the world is milf immature. Okay, So now is it
becoming more acceptable?
Speaker 2: What is that? What's the shift? I don't know if
it's becoming more acceptable. Like Jordan Peterson is a is
a psychiatrist out of Canada. He's written a couple of books.
He's now he works with the Daily wireed He's everywhere
now and he has he is big on teaching young
men to not watch porn. And Andrew Huberman's another one.
All these like like socio science science people, it's psychologists
are like, guys, you're wrecking your brains. By watching pornography,
you're living your life vicariously through a screen, and you
gotta stop because it's destroying your mind. It's destroying your brain.
But the people who are doing this are typically well
it's men, it's not women. It's men's men, and it's
young men. Because guess what, they're looking at something that
they've never seen. I mean, they could be looking at
something they've never seen, period, but especially with an older women,
older woman, because the curiosity factor that odds are at
eight seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty or even fourteen fifteen. They
don't know what an older woman looks like.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, here's my thing. I don't think you have
to necessarily look at porn. I'm saying that these trends
started there, that the popularity of milf older woman.
Speaker 2: America, the American pie movie, that's.
Speaker 3: The American pie movies, that kind of thing that slowly
seeped to now right now tonight on Netflix, all pretty new.
You can go see three movies where the age the
average age difference is twenty years between the lead man
and the woman, or on fifteen years because I forget
what her name is, ten ten years older or eleven
years older. So that that to me is like I've
never seen that. Not where there's three, I haven't seen it.
I don't ever the same time at the same time.
But these are all relatively re released.
Speaker 2: I'm so released.
Speaker 3: These are all pretty new, they're all out there. So
to that, well, so I'm going has the trend did
it start with porn? Because you'll never convince me that
the way people wear their puba care didn't start with porn.
I think it did. And I think this started there
and slowly seeped out, seeped out, seeped out, and the
next thing, you know, and now it's like a cultural trend.
It's a it's a popular thing.
Speaker 2: Right, you know. It's It's funny you mentioned this because
look at all the Avenger movies out, Look at all
the comic book movies. Look at Joker, right, that's they
have the Joker musical Joker too out, which I guess
is getting killed in by the critics. But I saw
Ted talk a couple of weeks ago on YouTube. I
go down these YouTube rabbit holes, and they were talking
about this guy in the in the late eighteen hundreds
early nineteen hundreds who moved to America. His brother was
already here. I think he was from England or France
or something, and he saw no imagination and he wanted
to bring imagination to America. And through this process he
had he developed. He took old ideas and made them
new again. Right, like what is old is new and
America loves the familiar. Yes, they just want a new
spin on it. So if you look at Joker, right,
when Batman came out in eighty nine, well he came
out sixty six with the old cheesy ones. Then all
of a sudden, now you find out who Joker is, Well,
it was a guy named Jack Napier in the Batman
with Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson. Well, in this Joker, it's
Arthur Fleck. Well wait a minute, so do the kind
of change it all? No, they just redressed him. They
reinvented Joker. They didn't involve Batman in this case, right,
But it gave a new spin on an old character.
Because the Heath Ledger version has been done. Yeah, the
the Jack Nicholson versus what you're saying with So in
other world this is so good. So in the last yeah,
in the last twenty twenty five years because of like pornography,
because of American pie and this milf idea and all
this stuff. Hollywood is looking for new ways to reinvent
itself because they've run out of ideas.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I just think that there's nothing really new that's come
out that people want to see that could be. So
now you have three movies of the same kind of genre,
even though it's kind of new, Yes it is old.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like it takes time for it
to hit the zeitgeist, right, it gets becomes popular, and
now it's like, hey, why not men have been doing
it for years? Right? These are either divorced or widowed
women in these movies or never been married, right, And
they decide, oh why not? Why not me? And it's
sort of an empowerment thing, I think for them. I'm
not I'm not sure. I see what you're saying, but
I'm not sure. Here's my question, Like, I go, what
what would Butcher have done if you came home at
twenty five with a forty five?
Speaker 2: I know exactly what he said, make sure you were
two by four on your ass, you don't fall in
because he said it before, not to me. He always said, yeah,
Danny with these older women. I'm gonna tell you if
you if you decide you want to go that direction,
you're a man. I can't. I'm not gonna tell you otherwise,
make sure you were two by four in your ass'll
fall in. And I didn't know what he meant. Dan,
I'm twenty years old. I didn't know what you know? Terrible,
that's what he said. And then you get old, You're.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, but I'm going because I was thinking, I
don't know how I would react if Jordan came home.
My son, Jackson is twenty four. Jordan's gonna be twenty
three in January. Let's say Jordan comes home or Jackson
with a woman in their late thirties.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like something. Everybody would look around the
room and then wait until I left, and then the
talk show would still I think you're right, like the
view would break out in my mother's living room.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: We were talking with Danny and his new girlfriend today,
and let's get your thoughts, Joel, uh oh is he happy?
It'd be nusty? I don't know. Uh, you know, she
she seems a little too, but he needs to be
mothered more. My mother, Well, what do you mean what
do you beat like? I didn't mother, Well, no, I
mean I could see the conversation unfolding. My brother Ryan
Duty wants the week Look this weekend. If you want
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you were in your early twenties, yeah,
and a divorce, yeah, who's pretty hot in her forties
took a liking to you. Yes, I think you that
if that happened, I would have explored it. Okay, I
will say this. I think we talk about the pussification.
I don't hear that much anymore.
Speaker 2: Because it's now taboo to say that. Okay, toxic masculinity.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that toxic masculinity, okay, but I feel
like masculinity is. I will tell you a number of
conversations that I've had privately that I've said to women.
I don't know that I would say that that way,
and it's not women of any kind of interest to me.
They're not not that, but I would say because I
think it would be seen as misogynistic and they all
look and be like I'm crazy. Because I think there
is the idea of a man and a woman, and
the male and the feminine. I think that they they
you know, the masculine and feminine.
Speaker 2: That women want a man, they want a man. Don't
let the don't let the television tell you otherwise.
Speaker 3: I think that if you're in your if there's a
woman in her forties, and I don't know how family
would react. I don't know how I would react. It
would be weird to see a forty two year old
woman come walking through. I mean, there's a chance that
with dating apps and things, if your parents are divorced,
and that my sons and I could date the same
woman without ever anybody knowing it, right, Like I could
hook up on Tinder with somebody and go out for a.
Speaker 2: Couple of days. I know you from somewhere short.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, But I'm just saying, like, I think that's
a real possibility in a rocket notion, and we are
staying younger longer, Like women look great, mean well.
Speaker 2: For Brimley looked like he was seventy when he was
like forty seven, tape a cocoon, and you look a
lot younger than him, and you're in your early fifth.
Speaker 3: Right, But I go if so she takes a liking
to you. I think it's like an etiquette class for life. Yeah,
you know, truly show you what it means to kind
of be a man.
Speaker 2: I will say this.
Speaker 3: Older women don't want to hang with your friends. They
don't want to meet up later. No, they don't want
to play it by ear. Their time is too valuable. Right,
I'm going you date an older woman, pick a time,
pick a place, check in with her that day, and
don't bring any of your frat boys, and you sort
of learn to be an adult.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think we have this arrested development in
this generation and the generation after, in the generation after.
I'm okay.
Speaker 3: I would go like privately to my son and be like,
have a great time, but be careful.
Speaker 2: That's it. I had a cousin. So I had a
cousin who dated a woman, brought her to the house,
met my grandmother. Like we're talking the nineties, right, Yeah.
He was twenty five and she was fifty, and she
looked at me a bit fifty. Yeah back when fifty
was fifty. Yeah, like what seventy looks like now? Yeah? Okay,
and you know his father, my uncle Vito, said, you know,
we were all kind of against it, but at the
end of the day, it was the best thing for him.
He dated her for ten years. Yeah, they never got married.
She died, you know, left him everything. But at the
end of the day, he grew up.
Speaker 3: Because of this woman, well in a way, and she
he kept her young or whatever. I just think it
would raise your game to the point where your mom
would be impressed, like, who are you right? You actually
pick your socks up when you're here, and you help
clear the table. I don't know, just little things, because
then I go in my fantasy. Here's my fantasy if
I'm back around my kid's age and there's a but
she's a divorce doctor. Oh right, and I'm in here's
Here's I was thinking about this today. I go, this
would be a great thing to do. You're not gonna
like it. Porn intros. We don't go to the porn.
It's just the setup. You used to be the pizza
guy ding dong. Yeah, not now. Now it's the divorce
doctor in line at the coffee shop and she drops
her phone with a loud thud, and you turn around
and she goes, oh, you would think with these hands,
I'm a surgeon, i'd be able to hold onto things,
and the guy would I would say something, you.
Speaker 2: See how much thought I put it, it's not good
for the scalpulator.
Speaker 3: Right, So if I said, if I said, well, at
least it's not broken, and uh.
Speaker 2: You've done this before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least it's not broken, or something like that,
and uh, you know it happens from time to time.
You drop things and she says, well, I left the
gym and maybe I've overdone it a bit. My hands
are a little shaky. I was really pushing myself today.
And then I may say I've seen you at the
gym a few times, and then from there okay, and
then from there the next thing, you know, we're on
the own machine and I got her bed over six ways.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying, like, that's bills fantasy. Yes,
I want to make this cliss Yes, yes, my fantasy.
But I just go that to me would be the ultimate,
like you know what's new again? The older Younger band? Yeah,
I did it a couple after my divorce. I did
a couple older women. How much older? Like so I
was a few months No, no, no, well my wife is
a year older than I am, but no, I.
Speaker 3: Well, my wife was about a year older than me,
and then I did date someone who's too years older
than me for a while.
Speaker 2: So she was about I was thirty seven, thirty eight.
I just the ink was dry on my divorce and
she was about like fifty four. Whoa yeah really yeah,
I had kids that were grown, yeah, and stuff. I mean,
we didn't do anything. We just went out a couple
of times and talked to she was she was cool.
She every time she sees me, she like lights up
and says hello. It just what we knew was. It
probably wasn't a good idea, but I mean, but like,
she showed an interest in me, and I was like,
she looked good. She looked good. Okay, all right, you're
that's the conversation. She looked good. Seriously, No, she looks great. No,
you're asked taking those cheese at all? Honey. No, she
was she was petite, Okay, she was petite, all right. No,
she looked like a fifty four year old at the time.
Fifty four year old. I don't even know what. I
don't even know what fifty I think fifty four now
looks a little bit younger than I even did then,
I don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I really don't have it. Eight years ago, well right,
I mean she's probably like six.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised with some people when I see him, I
don't know. I always figure I look older than I've
ever looked in my life, and I am.
Speaker 2: So there you go. What's funny you bring this up?
So you ever have like these like we're talking about
deja vou last week and stuff. You ever have these
like premonitions or how do I put this? Not predictive programming,
but all of a sudden you hear something on the
radio or you see something and then all of a
sudden end up talking about it. So I'm the way
over here, and it brought me back to a time
when you and I worked together. So Tommy was off
that day, he had a colonoscopy, so it's just you
and me. And the week before you and Tommy were
on vacation. So we set up a line, an advice line.
So the boys are off this week, but if you
have any advice you want them to, you know, answer anonymously.
We set up a line, and this guy called up
and he talked about how he knocked this. He's a
young man, he knocked up an older woman who's married,
and now he's always gonna wonder because his kid, you know,
is not gonna be his. It's gonna be somebody else
raising this kid. And one was never going to admit it.
And the reason I think thought about it today because
on the way here I heard that heart song all
I Want to do, right, Yeah, and I'm like, oh
my gosh, I gotta tell Billy about this because I
remember Dad, your advice to him was, hey, you want
to play that game. Hey, that's the chance you take. Bro. Sorry, sorry, Well,
and the guy called back and he's like, yeah, but
I really let you know. We're like, no, it's that you're.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is like, you're right, you play that
game and play with viral and but the ultimate choice
is hers, yes, and the level of involvement for you
is whatever.
Speaker 2: It's just and he found out, like through back channel
that she was pregnant with his kid and she wanted
nothing to do with him because she's married, right, and
she's like she was like in her mid forties at
the time. He was like twenty six, twenty. But it's
so weird. How that happened on the way. I'm like,
I remember that everyone played this song, we dissected this song.
Tommy came up the next day and started making fun
of him. I mean, you know, it's just one of
those things. All right, Well, uh, we'll take the oldest
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Speaker 2: Gray Nut when he came into So.
Speaker 3: That's right, little us.
Speaker 2: What made them want to write this song? And well,
I don't know. Well, first of all, which is the
big one? Nancy? Yeah, this is I talked to Nancy.
They're weird, man, wow, AND's cool. Nancy's a little bit
of a nut. Nancy. I didn't talk. It was And
that I talked to and ann was.
Speaker 3: Doing uh, they had they had a falling out. Okay,
so they were each touring with their own band.
Speaker 5: They were doing Heart on the Road almost like Broken
Heart something like that. And but I think Nancy had
some of the original members and and had like this
makeshift ragtag band.
Speaker 2: Well it's like Dennis Deoung doing the musical sticks.
Speaker 3: So think about this. Think about this. You're on the
West coast. You gotta get up and you got to
talk to radio stations. And here's a behind the scenes thing.
Whenever you hear in certain markets, not always like you know,
the big cities still come in because they live there, right,
It's not uncommon that you would see somebody in the
radio station in LA, but it would be around here
right beyond, Yeah, because they don't live here. So a
lot of times to promote something, they get on and
they do like a what I'll call radio radio row.
But it's usually and so there'll be people who are
timing them and they get them on the next station
and they're just talking to morning show after morning show
after morning show after show show, and they're on for
eight minutes at a time. So Anne, it's doing one
of those about a new album. And I think it
was later in the day, so it might have been
like nine o'clock her time, which would be noon here
or something, right, And I was doing the show midday show.
Speaker 2: And she.
Speaker 3: My I was determined to make her my friend, like
I was gonna I was gonna get a lot better. Yeah,
And she was stiff, and she was stiff on a
lot of stuff. And then finally I go, what's going on?
Speaker 2: I go, sister's fighting.
Speaker 3: I go, and she talked about it was her husband
had said something about Nancy's kids, okay, and she and
her husband have no kids, and there was some kind
of argument and it became a bigger deal and that
was it, and she like really sort of opened up.
And I think there was something in People magazine somebody do.
Speaker 2: With the dog little tour of us too. I think
like one of the dogs, like bit one of the kids.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah right. So Ann's the black haired one,
Nancy is the blonde.
Speaker 3: Okay, But all I want to do I gotta see
who wrote this song Danny.
Speaker 2: And just beat cancer recently, if I'm not mistaken. But
like I thought about this too, Billy, like we used
to do parody songs in the breakroom, and I thought
about like doing parody songs of songs, like not a
parody song about somebody else I'm talking about. This song
is basically about out a husband with a low sperm
count couldn't supply a kid, so she's got to go
get knocked up by some young god. But the weird
part is, why wouldn't you go to a sperm bank?
Because you can't write a song about a sperm bank.
And then all I won't to do is meet doctor
who wouldn't it be weird?
Speaker 3: Like if if that were the case, how violated would
you feel if your wife went and slept with somebody
just to have a kid, but actually had sex with
them instead of something else.
Speaker 2: For hours and hours. According to the song, apparently he
did everything right. They made imagine, they did tricks. He
made her marriage disappear, okay, and then brought it back.
Speaker 3: But Lang wrote the song.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. Wait but Mutt.
Speaker 3: Lang, Yeah, Robert dude, Yeah, he wrote the song.
Speaker 2: He married, He married Shania Twain.
Speaker 3: He did, and then the divorce because he was banging
the maid. No nothing maid. I think the nanny. Okay,
I think he was banging the names.
Speaker 2: Enough like Mala Harris's husband. So let's see. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: It was composed by Robert John Mutt Lang and releases
the lead single for the band's tenth album, Brigade Man.
So I wonder if that happened to Mutt could.
Speaker 2: Be Yeah he was the husband or he was the guy.
Yeah that was left, you know, so come find me.
You can't be everything I need. We planted a tree, but.
Speaker 3: We still love them. Yeah, I will tell you. Okay, Okay, okay,
go back to the first set. The milk thing that
kind of made me hot? Did Yeah that song? I
used to always think, Yeah, there was something about I
always felt like I was always attracted to slightly older girls.
Slightly yes, not like significantly older, but give me a
year or two. There was something because they were older
than me. There's something that they did not bray well.
But they also shouldn't have been into me.
Speaker 2: Right, they're giving you attention. So this, if you could
get the older chicks to laugh, you're the most popular
kid in the class. You got it. Yeah, And I
did that.
Speaker 3: I I yeah, that was my thing and I loved
And there was something about them too, where girls in
my class seemed like little girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that, you know what I mean,
They seem like little girls. Where Hang on a second.
This is our our phone line ringing here. Hello, you're
on Billified. Go ahead call her.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello?
Speaker 2: You play Iron made him for me? Their old lead
slinger dice. Yeah, the old lead singer died years old.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm I'm gonna hang up because you're not
connected to the board and it's going to be annoying
to hold it, and I don't want you to be
upset with me. So if now he's called him back
the I lost my know that song? Yeah, and I
would think like there was something about a woman. Now
I remember distinctly, distinctly.
Speaker 2: And I knew I was in trouble. I'll take you back.
This is this is like, this is where, this is
where on the radio show we hit the the chimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I can do that.
Speaker 2: I can. Oh you have chimes?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Danny, I got everything perfect. Let me let
me see if I can get back over here. All right,
it could be one second.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of buttons.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of buttons to push. But I don't
know why I won't go now here, we go.
Speaker 2: Hit the chimes. That's cricket tha. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
There you go. It's a long way to go. It's
a long way to go for that, Danny. That was
a long way. Okay, So I'll take you back. I
probably shouldn't tell this story. That's what makes it even better.
I know. So he's gonna keep calling. Sure it's not
Kevin calling.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. I can't talk to you right now
because you're not patched into the board and I got.
Speaker 2: To do something, so okay, all right, bye.
Speaker 3: But I didn't mean to be rude to him, and
I was not on my point, So I will get
a passion into the board during the break. So let
me go back there and go picture so I can
remember I.
Speaker 2: Was working. No, this wasn't Pine Plains like the A seven.
Speaker 3: This was Radio.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, well it's even better. Yeah, yeah, I
know this is radio. Yes, that's the station. I was the.
Speaker 3: Afternoon drive promotion director just after the crab couch.
Speaker 2: No, during the credit Okay, all right, the crab couch.
Speaker 3: I think that I was. I don't anyway. I just
remember they hired this new in her and I remember
being at a computer and it was early computer days
really and looking up and seeing her look at me,
and I'm going.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that is a woman.
Speaker 3: I remember the thought exactly, like I'm like, that's a woman.
And uh so we kind of looked at each other
and then she winds up being an intern, and she
was an intern in my department. I would say she
was an intern under me, and that eventually did happen. Wow,
she was an intern, And I just remember I remember
looking at her and thinking, wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pumperstickers out that neg We went. But here's the
this is this. I'm sweating.
Speaker 3: My palms are sweating. So she was the and I
really liked her. But I was involved with somebody. Oh yeah, no,
this is this is terrible.
Speaker 2: Kid. No, come, I keep going. Should I tell the
story because it's really bad. Yeah, you're you're already out
of the zipper. Okay, let's go.
Speaker 3: This is this is bad. This is bad, and it's bad.
I was young, she was older though, no, oh she wasn't.
But she would look like a woman. She would put together.
And then as I find out, she was like, uh,
a mercy grad grad, yes grad, yes, yes, yes yes,
and uh finishing up college at I think was done
with college and okay, but at a high end school.
Oh yeah, and had an apartment downtown. And I don't
know what happened, but I was involved with somebody.
Speaker 2: Might have been living with somebody. Okay, yeah, that's even better.
No it doesn't, so it's great. Here's what happened. I
brought the van and ran out of stickers. So so
I go, Hey, I did, honey, I gotta, I gotta go.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, the person I was with would leave
on weekends to go back to wherever they were from. Okay,
And I had to stay because I had work in
events and things, because I was doing this, and I
was probably gosh, I might have been younger than my
oldest son. Okay, I wouldn't have been twenty four. I
was twenty three, I think, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Getting a real education and radio working afternoons and running
the promotions department, which, by the way, folks, is not easy,
so probably the hardest job in radio.
Speaker 3: I remember having some conversation with her, and I don't
know why. How she was doing an internship. Maybe she
got hired, maybe she was an intern for the summer
and she had graduated, and it was just something else.
And then I don't know, And all I know is
that she and I had a bet that we could
go shot for shot on something.
Speaker 2: And I went over to her apartment and she went
shot for shot.
Speaker 3: It was terrible, and I remember like I blacked out,
but I blacked out. I remember coming to where I
was like like no, no, like where I know I
was writing, I like, yeah, I don't know. A moment
of clarity came upon me as to when I was
in the throes of passions.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that wasn't the only thing.
Speaker 3: No, and uh, And then I really liked her, but
I felt bad because I this is the thing.
Speaker 2: I saw a story earlier.
Speaker 3: Today and I wasn't sure to bring this up or not.
But another lawsuit against Vincent Linda McMahon, and we'll get
into it in a little while. But this is where,
and it'll sort of tie into what I'm talking about,
But this is where having been molested and not being
able to differentiate what sex really means, wanting to stay
too long, being like over overly hyped.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: It's so fucked up. And I'm not a person who
wants to be cheated on or wants to cheat.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on. My hormones were raged.
I was twenty three years old. I'll leave it at that.
I don't know. I always felt bad about it. I
did break things off with the other person because you
just couldn't. I couldn't, in my mind go forward with that.
I just couldn't. Yeah, and I don't know that. That's
how weird I am. I'm either all in or I'm
not right. I still am to this day. I'm either
all in or I'm not. Don't I don't like these
half in, half out half thing. I don't want to
could be casual, but if it feels like if certain
words are exchanged and certain things and it's.
Speaker 2: Either all in or all out.
Speaker 3: Let's not wait, let's not waste each other's time. And
I like this chick. And then I still see family
memberss around town and they're like, hey.
Speaker 2: Man, remember my sister, my sister. No, I didn't really dig,
so could you give me some tickets to Lewis Black.
I will tell you there's more. No, there's not more
to that. It's like they didn't they don't need anything.
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, no, no,
they don't need anything.
Speaker 3: No, you're there, you're thinking no, like, yeah, they have
a lot of money, but that it's yeah, I don't
know if you're trying to think of who it is
you want.
Speaker 2: No, no, I would never guess. I know who you're
talking about from from the archives of Billy stories of
the past. Yeah, I know. It wasn't anybody that you
ever married. Somebody before that whom you know came from
a well to do fans.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is a different person.
Speaker 2: Oh another different person. Yeah yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a different person because there was never
any real dating. It was just that one time, maybe
two times.
Speaker 6: Love it two tabs, Babe, Bee, you didn't seem it
too tapped girl, My name's Murray, love it too tapped girl.
Speaker 2: I'm sweating what fuck tomorrow? One with my girl is gone.
I always liked her.
Speaker 3: I always liked that girl, and that it was one
of those sometimes when you look back and go, I
probably should have pursued that a little bit more because
you did like her, but you were so confused on everything.
Speaker 2: Had several of those, but I was so confused in
my life. I just I there was one woman I
dated Christian girl, and I was with a girl that
you know for four and a half years. And I
had just come out of this relationship and I meet
this girl's gorgeous, just put together, self made, and we
date for a little while. And I had just gotten
out of a four and a half year relationship, and
I'm like, I can't jump with both feet into another one.
So I started dating other women. While I was dating
other women, this one girl that I really liked, like,
flipped on me within like four weeks. You know her,
I mean you don't know her, but I mean you
know who she is. And while that happened, I realized,
oh my gosh, you know the girl I should be with.
Is this this other girl? I text her, I call
I don't hear anything back. She had already moved on,
and she moved on with a guy she met at
one of my Diggler's Bridge shows. They're now married. Yeah,
you know, so it all it all ends up working out,
you know, But at the time, you're like, it felt
like a gut punch. It's like you'll let one like
could that be the one that got away? Well? I
always was. I don't look at it that way anymore,
but I did then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never did. I always felt like if it
was over, it was over, and that was it.
Speaker 2: When you're a lost puppy like I was, you know
that you question everything. Yeah, you're insecurity. You questioned everything,
and you're never there's no nothing solid.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I was low self esteem, but I also just would
figure out, fucking well, you had that way of getting
rid of like negatives like that, you know you could
dismiss it. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I dismissed things, Dan. I think
I compartimentalized things. I just put it away and just go.
Speaker 2: Let's kind of like dismissing it. Yeah, it is. I
just kind of box it away.
Speaker 3: But sometimes when somebody hits that box and knocks it
off the shelf, a lot of ugliness comes out.
Speaker 2: Shit, you know what I mean. It's bad. It's bad.
Speaker 3: It's it's very very bad. Why don't we take a
moment and then I'll tell you what's going on with
the Vince McMahon thing. And yeah, yeah, this is a
new one.
Speaker 2: I've watched most of that documentary series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I haven't watched.
Speaker 2: I think it's a MiG miss. I mean, if you're
a rustling fan, it's good for wrestling. It's a wrestling
Documentary's a Vinch McMahon documentary. Other than the story that
they told about him and his son Shane, I really
don't think that that is really getting the essence of
the evil Vince McMahon. Well, we don't want to hear about.
Speaker 3: Two things from the late eighties early nineties, Vince McMahon
and the Menendez brothers.
Speaker 2: Oh, back in the news, Okay, back in the news.
We'll get to all that right after this.
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Speaker 6: Don't create his side.
Speaker 3: I always love the fact that in my lifetime, I
know there's been immense technological advances. My grandfathers came back,
they wouldn't know what are we doing. We're walking around
looking at the phone.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: But I think one of the biggest things to happen
is the legalization of marijuana only because it was so
looked down upon for so long, and growing up in
an area around Woodstock where people grew it. I told you,
I got a friend who got busted for growing up.
I don't know. I maybe didn't grew it between the
cornerstalks of a farmer. Uh So, it's just strange. And
now it's great because you know that you're getting something
that's pure. And I say, I jokingly say that you
know today's weed, you need a restrictor plate with it
because I don't know what's going on. That's why you
should go to places like MJ Dispensary. And Michelle is
from MJ Dispensary.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me now? All right?
Speaker 3: No, she can hear me, but I don't know that
we can hear her.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: We're still having that problem. I remember having that problem.
I don't understand there Michelle. Michelle's yeah, she's there, but
she walked away.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: So MJ Dispensary has their hollowed party going on this week.
It's the Saturday, and I think it begins at noon.
You can go over there and they have all what's
really cool is you get to talk to the vendors
and there's a lot of local companies that they do
business with that and you can find out about cannabinoids
and stuff. But I was amazed at the level of
things with marijuana today. It's so different. It's so and
I know that here's the thing. I would say, God
made it.
Speaker 2: Come on, Danny, Tom George, late traffic mane Yes. He
just to always say his famous Hey Tom, you canna
have a couple of drinks to say, Oh no, I
don't do that. Really no, I'll tell you what. I
go home and I'll smoke. He was really top. Why
is that? He goes Man made alcohol, God made marijuana.
Now who do you trust? That was his famous life
Now who do you trust? Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And that was just he would go home, but he'd
smoke every night. Well here's the thing. Run the trains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and run the trains.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: Uh, we'll see if Michelle pops up on the screen,
we'll keep her up there until they can figure out
the Uh. I think they just have to turn their
microphone on their end.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, somebody else, Oh wait, wait, we're gonna switch computers.
Let's see if we can switch.
Speaker 2: I can hear you, Michelle, can you hear me? I
can can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 7: Bill?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: Yes? Finally, I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 3: We were talking about your holloweed event that's happened on
Saturday over at MJ Dispensary.
Speaker 7: Yes, it is the Saturday, the twenty six, from twelve
to six. We have about thirty ish of our vendors coming.
They hand out a lot of goodies.
Speaker 2: It's like a convention.
Speaker 7: I'll be out there at our table with a spinning
wheel to give out a lot of free goodies also,
so I would.
Speaker 3: I've always I've been bragging about MJ Dispensary and the
knowledge that you guys have because I had said and
when you couldn't hear us or you couldn't communicate back
with us, I.
Speaker 2: Was saying weed today. I always jokes that could come.
Speaker 3: With a restrictor plate, right, because there's so much different stuff,
Like a restrictor plate on a car keeps the engine
from going over I don't know whatever the speed is,
one hundred and fifty. So you always need that with
weed because sometimes you don't know gummies can hit different.
There's fifty milligrams, there's five milligrams. You need to talk
to the people, the experts there. But I believe Michelle
that with the legalization of marijuana, and Dan is here,
who's I don't think has ever tried a drug in
his life. However, his dad, when he was dying from cancer,
did use marijuana and for medicinal benefits. Right to put
on weight to deal with pain, And that's what I'm saying.
If you're living with pain and constantly popping some kind
of a pill that's eating the lining of your stomach,
why not go talk to MJ Dispensary. They'll find something
for you that's of a natural and better for you.
Speaker 2: And maybe I don't know, at leaks get a laugh
out of the life for a little while. Right, she's
still there.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I wasn't sure if you were, But I
mean that's what it is. You can manage pain, you're right, creativity, Oh.
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean there's even products out there to help
you sleep.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a big one for a lot of people.
Speaker 7: So many narcotics and sleeping pills are so addictive these days,
and you don't want is the best drug out.
Speaker 3: There, I really believe. I agree, and it's it's one
of the I like when you can go. They tweak
the cannabin noise. I like the creative.
Speaker 2: I'll take a creative gummy every once in a while.
It's awesome. Next thing he's painting in his house. Well,
then there's.
Speaker 7: Ones that yeah, those are my favorite.
Speaker 2: Focusing the focusing ones, and they give you.
Speaker 3: There's some that you can focus, there's some that you
can get energy, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want, Michelle, Yes, okay.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, energy sleep, focus specifically just for pain. Yeah,
and just for pain appetite yep.
Speaker 3: And even CBD I think for a while too, which
doesn't have THC in it, but can have benefits the
creams that you can here. I'm sorry, all right, Well
let's see. Is that going any better? I don't know
why you're the internet. The picture is a little blurry,
that's okay, Michelle, Well keep talking about the holloween event.
I will let you. I'll let you go since we
don't have a great connection, are you guys than this
has been my career, my whole life.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what we'll let you go, Michelle, since
we're having a tough time getting a good connection. Okay,
all right, I'm gonna wave goodbye.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only because it's a bad connection. It's a bad connection, Michelle. Yeah,
it's a bad connection.
Speaker 4: Cone.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're gonna up there, she goes. Now
our computer went why Okay, she's over run this one, Michelle.
She can't, she can't talk to us on that one.
Speaker 2: Michelle.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you go since we got such a
bad connection, and we'll talk about the event.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do anything. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: So listen to this. The Menendez Brothers. I've been fascinated
with this case. I've been watching the They Were OJ
before OJ, the docuseries that they have the re enactment
of stuff and it's pretty bad. I mean they get
pretty graphic in there. I think this is a Ryan
Murphy deal. And uh so Gark I think his name
is Garsan is the da there. He's up for re
election and he has been talking about it.
Speaker 2: Garcetti, you mean this is.
Speaker 3: A new guyon because there was a guy that gil
Garcetti and then his son end up like running for
mayor became mayor or whatever.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. So, yes, yes it is.
Speaker 3: So Garson is DA up for reelection, and today he
made an announcement about the Menendez brothers. Now, the Menendez
brothers have been in jail for thirty four years.
Speaker 2: It's that long.
Speaker 3: Yes, so there's a couple of different cases where they
could be parolled.
Speaker 2: Immediately, immediately listen to this. I think there are lot
of parents to kill, so I think they might be safe. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you that after a very careful
review of all the arguments that were made for people
on both sides of this equation, I came to a
place where I believe they're under the law resentencing is appropriate,
and I am going to recommend that to a court tomorrow.
What that means in this particular case is that we're
going to recommend to the court that the life without
the possibility of parole be removed and that they would
be sentenced for murder, which, because there are two murders involved,
that will be fifty years to life. However, because of
their age under the law, since they were under twenty
six years of age at the time that the crimes occurred.
They will be eligible for parole immediately.
Speaker 3: Do you know how much money these motherfuckers are gonna
make they're going to get out. Yeah, they're going to
get out, eligible for parole immediately. Who lands the first
interview with these guys? What book is being written? Life
on the inside? And I think I really wonder Judithan
if Ryan Murphy's docu series dramatization of them is because
I had to stop watching it because the sex of stuff,
like it was so bad, Like he's talking about putting
cinnamon and his father's food to try to make his
cum taste better. Now I have to say this, I
think I believe that probably was really said in some
it's documented, right, So I think that Murphy got transcripts
of the lawyers meeting private meetings with one of the.
Speaker 2: Well even like in trials though they talked about I
remember like one time they talked about object time. One
of the brothers got up and then we would have
object time and he's like crying talking about the things
that he his father made him do, right, And I
was like, oh my gosh, Well, I was like twelve
years old.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that it's a weird thing in there
because so for whatever reason, I was like, I don't
I couldn't watch anymore.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3: I may go back. I do want to finish it.
It's well done the Ryan Murphy. But I'm like, is
this I'm wondering if this is why they're getting out,
is sympathy well, sympathy in that First of all, who
are they a threat to? Right? They have served as
as Garsalan said, they've they've you know, did the crime.
Then they did their time, thirty four years.
Speaker 2: Their sentence to life. Though it's because because they did
it under the age of twenty six. That so, if
you're in California, commit to murder, do it before you're
twenty six. I think they tried.
Speaker 3: I think it's like here with insurance and stuff, so
they figure you're still young enough. I don't know. It's
a weird thing with the laws. But as long as
murdering car rentals, as long as you say yeah, right exactly,
as long as you're I think you have to serve
like eighty three percent of the time or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's California, it's like New York. Yeah,
figure out a way, Like, isn't the guy who kill
John Lennon like upper parole or out? Yeah, I don't
think he's out. He's writing songs and shit. Okay, I
don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's out.
Speaker 2: David.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he has a band.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he does.
Speaker 3: John David Chaman, he is a rock.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he is out and he's playing gigs.
I think he might be al.
Speaker 3: So these guys get out, yes, but I think it's
because people are realizing that they were sexually molested. And
it was the older brother first, and then it was
the younger brother, and then the older brother molested the
younger brother as well.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that all comes out in this and that he
had learned it from dad and then you know, so
this one, the younger brother was just he was just
come dumped on all the time apparently, and yeah, trying
to make it taste better by doing the different food things.
I go. And then and then the wife kind of knows,
but she really doesn't say anything. So they go to
couple's therapy and she sort of hints at it, and
the father flips out and walks out and again we
don't really know, but I would assume that there was
a record of what was said in the cup counseling.
Yeah right, And in this case, since they're murdered, you'd
want to do an investigation. So I'm sure everything you're
seeing in this has got to be based. I'm not
saying it's not traumatized, absolutely, but I think the base
core of it pretty real, right, pretty real, And I
think these guys will get out. And that was what
I wanted to say about the the Vince McMahon thing,
the new law with Vince McMahon, or the new charges
against he and his wife. I think they're being sued.
They're named is yeah, they're named as defendants in a
new lawsuit filed by five former employees who claim they
were abused while working for the company in the eighties.
According to the lawsuit, Vince and Lynden knowingly allowed ring
crew chief and ringside announcer Melvin Phillips Junior to groom, exploit,
and sexually abuse underage boys he hired to help.
Speaker 2: Set out WWE shows.
Speaker 3: And think about it. You're a twelve thirteen year old
boy and you want to you're told, hey, man, you
want to help me, and you could see the wrestlers
up close, and you get to meet him. And what
a great thing for that, you know, a thing. So
he learned and manipulated the young boys with the promise
of meeting famous wrestlers and attending the highly popular wrestling shows,
experiences that were otherwise unattainable for these kids.
Speaker 2: Well, there were there were they actually documented this actually happened,
and uh, there were certain people that they had to
let go because of it. They settled a lawsuit out
of court. I think the guy who was accused died.
I don't think he's alive anymore. And then there were
others who had who experienced fallout that they had nothing
to do with it, Like Pat Patterson was was well
one of Vince's right hand guys, and he was gay
and they thought he was part of it. He wasn't,
but they had to let him go. Then they brought
him back and we think of a gay guy as well. Right,
it's not the case.
Speaker 3: But here here's the here's the slippery slope for me.
It's awful if this happened, yes, right awful.
Speaker 2: And it does.
Speaker 3: As somebody who has lived that it it fucks you up.
It does, you can certainly recover, but it's it's a
weird thing. There's a secret. I don't like secrets. I
don't like secrets anymore because anytime I'm keeping a secret,
I just feel dirty and it takes me back to
like and uneasy, and I could see that that's where
that always does for me. So I try not to
have any secrets, or as much as you know is reasonable.
I mean, there's certain things I don't want to talk about,
but I wouldn't say they're a secret.
Speaker 2: They're just yeah, okay, that's cookies of cream.
Speaker 3: But I don't know about bringing something up from forty
years ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, since it's already been resolved in some cases now
all of a sudden, there's just more people coming out.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: The weird part is like if you asked me, and
this came up when I had Steve Sircu in yesterday
for a little bit of one on one that was
in yesterday spot I. The part that's tough is as
he said, like, do you remember where you were January thirteenth,
twenty twenty four, And the answer.
Speaker 2: Is I don't. I may have been here, yeah, I
may have been I don't know. Is it a Tuesday?
I have no right, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. So I don't know. Now go
back forty years, and you know I always say the
story gets later greater, uh later? Yeah, yes, what I say,
greater later, greater later, greater later, greater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that could be true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I and I don't know if your memory
if all of a sudden you think something happened but
it didn't.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of memories fail thing that yes, now
remember you've experienced, but you could also think things that
didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I also don't want to something happened that that
you feel this way?
Speaker 2: Could it have been this? Yes?
Speaker 3: And this is where like I even said to Steve
because he was bringing up different things, and I said,
you know, you get people like Cosby going back a
number of years. They said, but is it safety in numbers?
Like because he's going, well, why didn't you say something
at the moment. Well, I think a lot of people
are scared. I think that they don't think they'll be
believed because how could this guy. Let's take Cosby as
the example, the you know of America's father, right, that
kind of thing. How could he be that guy? Nobody's
gonna believe that. But then when all of a sudden
two three, four, five six, and somebody else goes, well,
you know, what did it to me too? And I'm
going to say something I've been living in with this
silence for a while that I don't know because but
it's always weird when these things are that far back,
that far back, right, you start to wonder, like where's
the reality and what really happened? And you know who
did what? And people's lives get altered. And I will
say the victim's life has been.
Speaker 2: Altered if that really did happen to them, and so
therefore some kind of justice. But I see doesn't.
Speaker 3: Steve talk about statute to limitation well a lot of
times in these cases. Now recently they they extended it
for a period of time that you can go back
a number of years, you know, And I think for
a lot of people it's hard to because you don't
I don't know how you resolve. I had a whole podcast.
I'm going to start another another podcast called Bill Lightenman.
And I talked to a woman today who is all
about healing and stuff like that, and I'm actually going
to put this one out Monday.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Her name is Sheila, and Shila does a lot of
integrated energy therapy and she's a metaphysician and does all
kinds of different things like that. But I don't know
how you really heal yourself from these types of things,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if you have to live with it,
you can't turn it off. It's a weird and it's
a lens that you look through a life through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you have to realize I'm not
that person now. It doesn't affect me that kind of stuff.
But I feel bad for I actually feel bad for
Vincent Linda because did they know that this was what
was happening? Did they really know it's not them that
did it? Were they aware?
Speaker 2: Well, they did settle out of court a case involving
this gentleman back in the nineties, So all of a sudden, now,
oh there's evidence of it. Like here's an example. Okay,
Cornelius Bennett is a guy who's completely turned his life
around after he got out of jail. He played for
the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: Cornelius Bennett was a jail.
Speaker 2: Oh he didn't hear about this, he Bennett, So he
met up with an ex girlfriend.
Speaker 3: One of the first things I.
Speaker 2: Had to do is the the prom promotional director.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Cornelius Bennett, I'm pretty sure. Was he like
the Spider God.
Speaker 2: No, that was Darryl Tally.
Speaker 3: Oh, Darryl Talley. It was Darryl Tally. That's right, it
was Darryl Tally. I'm sorry to interrupt your story real quick.
Darryl Tally. Tally had done hits on the morning show
and he was doing it in exchange for.
Speaker 2: A jet ski.
Speaker 3: Well, and you had to bring the jets They never
got the jet ski, so I come in later. So
now all of a sudden, we're told we can come
pick up a jet ski. I don't think this thing
was even raided.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to.
Speaker 3: Get it into the van, into the fucking van, Dan,
and we drove it to his house and we he
was like, I just going, what the fuck if there's
no trailer, there was no nothing. We just put it
in his garage on the floor like that poor guy,
Like the radio is so dumb.
Speaker 2: Like if you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna do it, fucking do it right, you know what
I'm saying, Like go the They always talked about go
the extra mile, make the extra go the fucking extra mile.
Jesus Christ, that was embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Corti's Bennett Uh went to jail for sodomizing a girlfriend
of his, an ex girlfriend. They met up after an
event he was back in town for because he had
left the Bills at this point he was I think
either retired or with a different team. And he comes back,
he meets up with her. They get a hotel room
and he decides to have rough sex with her, and
she needs something like forty stitches.
Speaker 3: Oh god damn, so so that.
Speaker 2: She's forty stitches where in her in her back shot up?
Speaker 3: So, Danny, Danny, is this documented somewhere go look at
a wait a second, I'm looking greener.
Speaker 2: Reagan would call it the weapon of mass destruction. That's
how document it was. Yes, it was late nineties, like
ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. Darryl Tally, not Darryl Tally, Cornel,
He's Benett. Darryl Tally would never get accused of something
like this. This has been documented. So he goes to jail,
He comes out, finds God. Then like ten fifteen years
later inside her ass, the same woman.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what happened. So now he's been documented. He's
gone to jail for this.
Speaker 3: So well, he went to jail for giving her forty
stitches in her ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because apparently she didn't consent to it. And so
after this happened, he goes to jail. Then he gets out,
and then ten years later she wants a cash grab,
so she sues him and they have to sell out
of court because there was already a president a case
where he was found guilty of it.
Speaker 3: So this is twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when that happened. This incident though, that was
the lawsuit. The incident happened in the nineties.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I put in Cornelius Bennett. Let's see everything's
coming up. Lawsuit filed in Monroe County accuses Cornelius Bennett.
Speaker 2: What was that? Oh, it's missing the forty stitches I
put in for you. Yeah, come on, this is the
story forty stitches something like that. Yeah, Like, well, the
story that the actual arrest happened in the night. It's
like getting run over something like that. That was the
story into the tunnels. But my point of the whole
story is that this woman went back and sued him
years later make money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she couldn't sit down still, Dan, she needed
one of those doughnuts.
Speaker 2: For God's sake, the poor woman her sphincter felt. He
used to joke around it called the weapon of mass destruction.
How could you make a light of something like that? Oh,
we just did, but morning shows too, Yes, and that's
what they did. But this was this was a true story.
Speaker 3: And so when this Lockdoto find out more about this,
I'm i I've please, please do. I'm gonna make it.
There's gotta be like news footage from back in the day.
Speaker 2: Sure there is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I'm gonna find it. We're gonna take a break.
I'm gonna look for that, all right. And then since
we're on that end of the body, I have what
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Speaker 3: So give me this story because you found I couldn't
find I was looking for videos.
Speaker 2: So this is from Wikipedia. But the story, well, Wikipedias
Cornelias Bennett is that Cornelius Bennett in nineteen ninety seven
May and nineteen ninety seven, so I think he's with
Atlanta at this point. Bennett committed quote vicious acts during
a sexual assault of a woman at the High Att
Regency Hotel in Buffalo. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced
to sixty days in jail for misconduct. He was also
placed on three years probation, fined five hundred dollars, ordered
to perform one hundred dollars of community service in order
to pay back six hundred and seventeen dollars in medical
bills for the woman in order to undergo anger management
and substance abuse counseling.
Speaker 3: Anger management took it out in her ass. Literally Oh
yeah wow. So this here's the part that's strange because
you make all the jokes, how about the woman? Because
I I I'm laughing a little bit about this with No,
it's a nameless, faceless person to me that have this done.
But this woman walked around people knew or people who
knew her. She probably felt like everybody in the world
knew who she was and what had happened to her.
I can't imagine how absolutely horrible that is. Right, and
you think like that as an older guy. I don't
know what you think like that as a younger person,
because it's funny he's got a big dig Well, you're
and a young guy.
Speaker 2: You have no idea what's at stake and what there
is to lose and reputation, and not to mention how
your whole life as an adult could be turned upside down,
your career, you have like bills to pay. Mommy and
daddy aren't taking care of this.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm talking about even with just with
her in terms of just psychologically trying to deal with this.
Yeah too, where all of a sudden, now it's like
you're a joke to everybody because we're making jokes about.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, anybody I hear she fart's one of
those stitches is gonna fly out.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be the kind of ship.
Speaker 3: And you become a walking poor woman who just had
a relationship, probably liked him, who hasn't at probably at
one point hooked up with an ex other than me,
you know, I just it happens with people, and yeah,
it's a familiarity and he's back in town and.
Speaker 2: Those old Phillies come back. Yeah, hey baby, Yeah, but
I miss you. Yeah, you miss me too. I miss
playing in Buffalo with you. Want to go, you gotta
room up with the high we'll see that. It's just
and they got an extra key.
Speaker 3: That's where, like, you know, you start to think, not
twice if you have a friend, this isn't this isn't
a yeah, you become a joke. You don't want anybody
to know. And this is why people met.
Speaker 2: There was a rumor I'm not gonna say who it was,
but there was a rumor about a certain NFL player
in the nineties. There was a rumor about a certain
NFL player in the nineties, and the rumor was that
this NFL player had abused his wife. And this rumor
got around you know that you know viral before viral, right, yes,
And to this day, people swear up and down know
it happened. It happened, and nothing happened, nothing came of it.
But that was the rumor that reverberated throughout and people
kept saying, Oh, that poor woman, that poor woman who
now is in the public eye because everybody knows who
she's married to, you know. And I'm not saying that
that happened. What I'm saying is is that.
Speaker 3: But what about all the women we don't know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's where I was going with. It's like,
that's just woman we know. Yeah, now, I don't think.
Speaker 3: That's when we don't know, right, And a lot of
times you just say stuck in something because you can't
imagine getting out of it, or I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's horrible.
Speaker 3: I feel like it. I'll tell you right now. I
feel like a real dick for gettin to laughing about
the story of Cornelia's Bennett forty stitches.
Speaker 2: I laughed when you said forty stitches. Could you imagine,
like what happened? I can't imagine having to live like
that and then just just think of this and even
discussing the physical mechanics of how to live like that
and having that go through your head would make some
like a lesser person giggle.
Speaker 3: Right, and so that is part of I'm the lesser person,
but that is part of you are talking about, Yeah,
I'm the lesser person. But just take it all joking aside.
Let's say that happens, she winds up with forty six?
How do you go to the bathroom? That's how do
you even go to the bath you know? And how
do you like?
Speaker 2: Blot?
Speaker 3: Don't wipe?
Speaker 2: Don't wipe, blot blot?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, those are the jokes
and things, and it's not not funny. Uh douty data okay,
duty data. There's a company that's come.
Speaker 2: Out seamless transition. Well, thank you.
Speaker 3: It's known for there's a company that has come out
with a little camera that you click that you put
on the on your toilet seat and it'll take pictures
of your doodoo baby and then.
Speaker 2: Analyze it and and then analyze it. So this is
something I would actually probably do. Okay, all right, okay
for my health, this is interesting.
Speaker 3: This is interesting.
Speaker 2: I've noticed it's getting a little weird. Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Tailored health records is then made available via a company
smartphone application. Now you think I have page two of
a two part story here, Now, I mean one second,
because everything got all twisted around with that other story. Well,
it's a tech company and they're trying to help people.
So yeah, so they say it's called I think it's
called Throne, specifically searching for health markers in excrement as
well as nuances in the urine to determine the poopers
level of hydration, for one thing, and on a larger scale,
monitoring bowel movements can provide valuable insights into the digestive
health and nutrition absorption, as well as servers and early
I just don't know.
Speaker 2: It would be weird. It's a cost effective way, I think, yeah,
because it beats crapping into a box and mailing it.
Speaker 3: Well, but I don't know that how much that's col.
Speaker 2: Of guards for cancers. Well, we used to take pictures
of our poop and send them to each other, you
guys did I didn't participate. Oh stop, I didn't take
a picture of mine. I thought we always send it
to you, so i'd i'd be on the receiveceiving end
of it. All of a sudden, Oh yeah, Phil Sherman, Yeah, Phil,
you had the worst. Yeah, somebody out analyze that. Yeah,
Phil had it where actually strung around the bowl? Yeah?
I did.
Speaker 3: I remember trying to challenge him once and I got close.
But uh, throwing assure as perspective users the site that
they understand that the health info is incredibly personal. The
toilet camera is four hundred and ninety nine dollars, but
the company is selling it for two ninety nine for
those who wanted early.
Speaker 2: Oh, they give you a discount because it's incredibly personal.
Speaker 3: But could you imagine walking into somebody's like house and
realizing there's a camera but it's faced.
Speaker 2: At the toilet. I don't know, I could go to
the bathroom. I wonder what weird camera? Yeah, but what's weird? Ship? Hey, Dave,
you might want to see a doctor.
Speaker 3: It's so weird now with technology, like it's great, but
it's weird because all our data is out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, eventually someone's gonna buy it all well
it's and then manipulate it. Okay, but seriously, I know,
but we're going to know everything about you.
Speaker 3: I can't live that paranoid idea. I know that I
like I'm an angry guy. I know I'm an angry guy.
I've been trying to work on my anger more so
now than ever before in my life.
Speaker 2: You've been doing a gratitude practice, like we talked about, Yes, good, good.
Speaker 3: Maybe yes, But I'm just saying, like I, it's just
so weird.
Speaker 2: Uh, how much information do you want? Well, the information
giving Google like permission to read, but my information? I
feel like at this point, who gives it? Fuck?
Speaker 3: What's interesting about me versus any other human on the planet.
You know what I'm saying, There's more valuable people to
get something from it. All I'm trying to do is
live better. And I often think if you if you're
looking for it, you're gonna find it.
Speaker 2: How many times? This is why I am such.
Speaker 3: A believer and such a nutty believer in the fact that, uh,
you are christ Like, yes, it's all I mean, no, no, no,
I mean we are as human beings. We have all
the same powers. We just haven't tapped into it yet.
And that's all right there. And you could create everything
because how many times do you and.
Speaker 2: I knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I fucking knew it because it met your expectations.
Speaker 2: You put it out there. It came back.
Speaker 3: The universe is a mirror and it came back. Whatever
you put out there, it's there. I really believe that.
How have you not in your life? God, I fucking
knew that, right, you got this weird feeling, you go, God,
damn it, this is what's gonna happen. And sure enough
it happens. And if you could just change your vibration
a little bit, like Jesus raised his vibration and was
way up here, you two could probably walk on water
and move mountains.
Speaker 2: Nobody's done it.
Speaker 3: Since I'm not saying that, I know because we get
caught up in the human drama. And we're so caught
up in human drama.
Speaker 2: Dan, you could be broke and.
Speaker 3: Have a flat screen TV and all the streaming services
and everything. But we'll start, We'll go create some shit somewhere.
We'll stir some shit up somewhere because we like drama.
Speaker 2: We will Like those Buddhist monks, what do you mean,
like they just live like like life of some time.
Speaker 3: But they do because they're smart, they're cut off, they're
they're they're really trying to be said.
Speaker 2: At one point, you got to test it out and
see if it works what do you mean, come out
into the world. You can't just live like a recluse.
It's pretty easy to live like a rick loose when
you're living like a recluse.
Speaker 3: No, I understand that. But that was their valve silence.
That's what they've done. They and they teach you how
to be and the suffering that we create the idea.
Speaker 2: But but they're living life in a vacuum. But you
can't do that. That's not how life works. You have
to go out and test that. No one except Jesus
has been able to do it. Well, what I'm saying is, yes,
I I hear what you're saying. I hear it as you're.
Speaker 3: Saying, I understand.
Speaker 2: We all fall short. Billy.
Speaker 3: That's okay. Keep trying. You have it in you. You've
got your own intuition. It's all in here, right, your
inner being, your inner God, your inner voice. You're intereve,
it's right there. Follow that. Go for your bliss. Stop
being on. But we get caught up in the drama.
And if we don't get you know, all of a sudden,
now we'll go on and we'll we'll pick fights, we'll
create things. Well, you know, we'll fight about women on
men and who pretend to be women or are women
or whatever they are being on women's sports, and we'll
I'm outraged over that, will create big drama about it. Yeah,
I don't think agree with it either, But at the
same time.
Speaker 2: At the same time, like I think I got like
eight of the things that are more important in my
life right now than that, like one thing I gotta
say about because I've been I've been ripped on this show,
not by you, but by others for being a little
bit of a quote conspiracy theorist, which is not I
always ripped on you for that. You didn't rip you,
just like discuss it. Other people have ripped.
Speaker 3: Oh no, well I find the conspiracy theorist. I'm very curious.
I think I think that some of these things could
there be a seed of truth in them? Did they
They didn't come out stereo? Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.
I never really liked that analogy because sometimes there's not. However,
it's popular saying and I know what you mean, but
I would say that.
Speaker 2: You know, okay, all right, No, I know what you mean. Well,
sometimes I just think sometimes people make stuff, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, but with the like stereotypes. They're
based on something, right, They're based on something. Why do
we talk about dis certain things? The Irish are drunks?
Speaker 2: Yes? Is that a complete itali loud?
Speaker 3: Is that a myth? No, it's I'll tell you no,
it's not. It's probably some of the highest rates of
alcoholism in the world. I would think is Ironland. So
I don't know, go on with your.
Speaker 2: Conspiracy, but no. The thing is that I have a
lot of time. I don't have kids. So when the
time that like you or others are parenting their kids
are taking them to hockey or doing whatever, I have
the luxury of reading or watching television or watching YouTube
videos or learning. And a lot of times these videos
find you and after you see it a couple of times,
two or three times, you have to wonder is their
truth to it? So then you start going down this
rabbit hole. And if you look at something like think,
don't think of the color brown right now, Billy, what
are you gonna do? You're gonnaok at anything that could
be brown. You're gonna notice, Wow, this table's brown. You
know what I'm saying, It's like that. So I have
to really discern things for what they are. However, like
there are certain things that I kind of like have
said that will come true, that could be coming true,
you know, and so that that's the whole thing. But
it all comes down to the fact that I have
the time to do that. And to bring it back
to the point you made about like the transgenders whatever
you were saying, like, just yeah, fights we pick. Yeah,
that's higher on a list for somebody like me who
has nothing else to worry about, right, And I'm not
saying I worry about it. I am concerned about those things,
but it's not as high on a list as you think.
But for other people it's right up.
Speaker 3: Well, I was trying to think of something that is
sort of inconsequential, and I don't think that is. That's
not an inconsequential thing.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's consequential. I just it's not
real high on my list in life.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair, however, but I do think
we create, well, we'll create wars where they're and I
don't even mean physical war bombing. We'll have the war
on drug. We'll create well, all of a sudden, we'll
we'll have something we'll decide.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll get a bunch of like minded people.
We'll rally them and like the war on Christmas to
I'll be coming up soon.
Speaker 3: Switching about stuff that has nothing. It's not even it's
it means nothing. It means nothing, right, And that that's
the thing is.
Speaker 2: Like most people going to this election right now are
worried about what's on the table. That's it. That's the
most important. Moriy, what is on my right right right?
How am I gonna keep a roof over my head?
How'm gonna keep a foot on my table? That is
ninety nine percent of the people. The one percent are
the ones that are out there on television and doing
all these videos everything else tell you about all the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with this election, I just think you need Yeah,
I forget that the election is coming up? Is that terrible?
And I watched the dudes and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that I get these elections
like placards or cards sent to me and I read
one today. I'm not I don't even remember the guy's name,
but it's like he promises to lower taxes, and I'm like,
so does everybody? So does everybody? Like can you give
me like a concrete like plan. Nobody could do it, No, nobody. No.
It's like George Carlin said, I don't make fun of politicians.
This is the best we can do. Folks. He's always said,
right right, because like anybody in that position would do
the same stupid stuff. Well, we just happened.
Speaker 3: A lot of times. Your hands are somewhat tied. You
have great ideas, but you get in there and it
becomes almost It cost a lot of money, yes, it does.
Speaker 2: So you got to raise money, and to raise money,
you got to propose some people some things.
Speaker 3: This is why sometimes standing I like to just go
over to iron smoke, have myself a delicious bourbon, maybe
on the rocks, maybe neat maybe because you're at war
and you need to calm the war war inside myself. Yes, yes,
arguments inside my head today Friday, October twenty fifth Acoustic
Sunset Sessions with Drinking Class Heroes. It's one of my buddies.
Travis Fitch is in there, good guy, and he does
a great Kermit the Frog impression, and he sings.
Speaker 2: Here there so many he sings songs. Apparently it's hacked,
you know. Jim Henson died of treatable pneumonia. Right, No,
I don't, but good for Travis Fish you can do that.
Speaker 3: Yes, but he's doing the acoustic Sunset sessions. And then
it's the big Halloween party Halloween Tonight tonight, Yes, come
dressed in the costume. There'll be all kinds of fun
prizes and things for you to get. And then on
Saturday you got the acoustic Sunset sessions with our friend
Steve Butterlatta. That's right. He begins at three thirty Ghost
of six thirty. And then I think it's one of Danny's.
I think Danny is a fan of these guys. It's
the Iron Smoke Halloween Party with Band from the Tavern.
I don't know them, Okay, well I was wrong. I
know you know thea. So the m eights coming to
costume prizes. It'll be the biggest eighties Halloween.
Speaker 2: Bash you can see.
Speaker 3: And then come back on a dude twice, come back
for band from the band from the Tavern and get
into the costume.
Speaker 2: Where else are you going to find back to back
Halloween parties.
Speaker 3: That's it right there, Iron Iron Smoke, Dillery and Fairport,
New York.
Speaker 2: Baby, any big plans for the weekend Dan watching the
World Series kicks off to the Yankees, Yankees, Dodgers. There's
three teams that Yankees and the Yankees fans eight losing
to under any circumstance, you could not dodge to the
Red Sox, the Mets, or the Dodgers. So I was listening.
They played the World Series thirteen different times.
Speaker 3: I listened to with each other. Were they the Brooklyn Dodgers? Yes, yeah,
I think my dad was at one of the Brooklyn
Dodgers New York Yankees World Series.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me. It was in the fifties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the games. Uh. My grandmother worked for
a man who eventually became governor of New York State.
Oh wow, uie carry. And they had an oil company,
and his secretary took my father. Her job for the
day was to take my father, about fourteen to fifteen
years old and with this hot young secretary to go
to the game.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he dressed up, yeah,
like at a suit and tie.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I could ask back in those days, that's what That's
how you went to a game. That's right, Champ, get
your tie on. We'll go to the World Series. Honey,
FAD's got a pitch for the Yankees. Play a short stop.
Speaker 3: They'll bring out Babe Ruth just to throw out the
first pitch.
Speaker 2: I think it probably was so I'll be watching the
World Series also my series. I heard Mad Dog today,
Chris mad Dog. Yeah, I loved Mad Dog. I gotta
tell you something, Bronnie James and Lebron Jays. Was that
what it was about? Okay, it was. It's not a
big deal about talking to it. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a big deal to them, but I
think it's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: It's a big deal with Lebron it's a big deal.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I disagree. I think it's a
big deal to any fathers if you had I wonder
if you would feel slightly differently about it, if you
had the kid getting to do what you love to
do at the highest level and with your kid. I
think that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I can't Patrick asked asked Chris Russo about that on
his show today. He had Russo on and he asked him,
he goes, your son Colin is getting into the radio business,
and you know, how would you feel, and he said, listen,
I would not allow that. He hasn't earned that. But
I'll tell you what, Kylin Russo is left further along
in his career that Brobdie jameson is it is, which I.
Speaker 3: Agree with, right. I know how everybody feels about the
Bronnie James thing. I hope he proves everybody wrong.
Speaker 2: I hope he does. I don't think he's going to
be anywhere near what is. But it's not about the
proven the thing wrong though, It's about the fact that
he I mean, if he does great, yes, but he
was given the opportunity, Like people don't get the keys
to go play on a G League team when you
couldn't even start at USC which isn't even a Division
I basketball powerhouse, right, But how many sports is the
last bastion of meritocracy. I understand what you're saying, and
I and this kid gets a pass, and I agree with.
Speaker 3: Everything, but I also would go how many fathers have
handed companies over to unwordery kids because they were the
father and that's the kid.
Speaker 2: I understand that CEO, but you're the CEO. You're the CEO.
Is he runs in the league, shouldn't Okay, all right,
but that that deem sports. Yes, what about all those
kids that got stepped over?
Speaker 3: I look, the one that I always felt was and
would fit your meritocracy was uh Ken and Ken Griffy Jr.
Speaker 2: They both earned it.
Speaker 3: They earned it, and they were on the same team.
Speaker 2: They were both good. Griffy was great, Junior was great.
Speaker 3: Junior was so I understand, but I think that that's
such a cool thing and that I I you know,
Bronnie James, I understand.
Speaker 2: I see, I hear the criticism, but there's a part.
Speaker 3: Of me that goes I kind of like this. I
like to see it.
Speaker 2: I can see that you and Jordan doing radio together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2: But you're talking about Chris Russo for another year.
Speaker 3: Because he said or on his show, I believe somewhere
on that channel on satellite radio, I uh, I heard
somebody say that the Dodgers have been playing JV teams
to get into the World Series and that now they're
gonna meet a more challenging team with the Yankees. Would
you agree with that?
Speaker 2: I agree with that the pot Russo say that.
Speaker 3: No, somebody on the channel I thought, I said, there's
been a lot of jv up till the Padres. Maybe
the Padres gave him a bit of a time, they did,
and the.
Speaker 2: Potters given to some of the Mets. I mean the Mets.
The Mets weren't a pushover, okay, but well they were
blew the Mets out a couple of games. Danny come
on and the Mets won two games in that line.
Speaker 3: You know, but there still was games were like, no, let's.
Speaker 2: Put it this way. The earlier in the season. The
Yankees went through a slump in June and part of
July they always seem to and the Dodgers, I believe,
took two out of three from the Yankees in that series.
And I mean, I let's put it this way. The
dodgers have the better roster. But the Dodgers' biggest problem
is is that who's their race? Well is it? Is
it Flairty or is it you mean, is it Yamamoto
who they just signed, or is it gonna be Walker Bueller.
I mean, at one point they're gonna they're gonna throw
their bullpen, which I think is the kiss of death,
but it got him through some big games. I think
the National League, the talent's much higher. Than the American League.
I think the Yankees. Actually, I watched more Yankee baseball
this year than I have in a long time. And
I gotta tell you, like, there were times where I'm like, man,
no wonder people do, no wonder. People don't want to
watch this sport anymore because it's sit back and wait
for the bomb. Yeah, And that's what the Bills offense
was a couple of years ago. Sit back and wait
for Josh Allen to do something spectacle. It kind of
still is right, and like the station to station baseball,
the hit and runs, the bunt thing, the stealing, A
lot of that's out the window now. And so you
like people like your father who grew up managing along
with the game at home, they can't really do it
anymore because it's all just a strikeout or hit a
home run. So I think it'll be an interesting series.
I think it'll go seven games. I'm hoping the Yankees win.
My gut says the Dodgers will take it, all right,
I hope I'm wrong. Kevin will be happy. He's a Dodgers,
He's a Dodgers fan.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, buddy, Big Dodgers fans yeah, I'm
not biting on that one.
Speaker 2: I know me is what you bullshit. It is what
you man, and I love that you did it. But
I always get the call yoursholes talking about bag dear.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be accused of that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, He's an enormous fan, Danny. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 3: You can watch any horror movies with Beth.
Speaker 2: Now does she like those? She loves Halloween. It's the
horror okay, Well like to dress up and stuff. Yeah,
but her parents' birthday, both of them are on the
same day, Okay, Saturday, So we're gonna take them out.
Speaker 3: You canna do that, and she get a dress up
she might later on that night for Danny.
Speaker 2: Hey, baby, all right, Hey boos, get dressed as a
flapper boo. I'll get out my cigar, ha, my tough half.
Speaker 3: Hey lady, Hey, come on home alight.
Speaker 2: I'm Bill Moran. Have a great weekend. Flower murder a
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