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Speaker 2: Hello wrestling fans. You're listening to Wrestling Coast to Coast
for a Wrestling Torch dailycast focusing on independent wrestling. I'm
Chris Maitland, and joining this adventure is the Man, the Myth,
The McClelland Justin mccollan, Justin, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm doing okay, Chris, tired, but I'm I'm ready to
go here, ready to talk some indie wrestling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready to go to as typical for me,
watching some sports while we record or just before we record.
And of course my beloved at New York Red Bulls
MLS is back and the Red Bulls are back losing
as they lost to the Philadelphia Union, which was unfortunate
for me, but you know, obviously had a big break
for soccer for the World Cup. MLS took a two
month break there. Back. Pro wrestling never really takes a break.
It's a long sport, and independent wrestling dosn't take a
break either, and so why Justin and I have a
different show to cover for you all every week and
we even have a connection between independent and wrestling and
one of the biggest shows of the year. We've had
a few social media goals of various wrestlers announcing that
they are getting tryouts the WWE over Summer Slam weekend.
Some notable ones that we've covered here quite simply on
our show. Josh Bishop, j Rod Tyles, Alexander Ox Adams,
Bobby Cassal, and Cody Lane just a few of the
people that we've covered, and we're going to try to
get an extensive list, hopefully either next week or maybe
after the fact might be easier to go through some
of those names. But justin what are your thoughts on
really the fact that we they used to have trials
with people that were kind of in private. Now they're
publicly having people tweet out their names and ww logos
for tryouts. What are your what are your thoughts on that?
And what is the show of a connection between w
W and the independent scene.
Speaker 3: No. No, to me, it's a bit of a gamble. It's
nothing like anybody is doing wrong. But I do think
let's say you do it a try out and then
like you're like, nothing goes further. Then I do think
there's fair or not fair, a little bit of an
unfortunate stigma there that people are like, well, that guy,
he's never gonna make it. They you know, And I
don't know, maybe that is too pessimistic of me, or
maybe just maybe it's I think it it is like
maybe it's just a risk you have to take. But
I think there's something more special about not knowing people
tryouts and then you get that kind of the element
of surprise if they get like a WWE I D
contractor or they magically show up on Evolved. So from
like I think a creative standpoint, it's it's it's fun
to be surprised like that. I suppose maybe for business
it's it's a good way to get booked, to be like, well,
ww at least wanted to check me out, and certainly
that means you should want book me for your for
your show. So I've talked myself into it. I guess
I don't think it's too bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't think it hurts anyone to
state that you have WWE has interested in you. I
think that actually would be very helpful for people for
that to be known. So from that standpoint, I think,
excuse me, that's a positive. Obviously WWE's requesting that they
do this. I don't because it used to be the
interviews were or the sord the tryouts were in private.
People that know about it. Now they're yeh, w.
Speaker 3: W I'm sure has has all the leverage in this situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're people are tweeting it out, tweeting it out
in advance to get people that people know about it.
But also I guess it shows that the the w
W is interested. I mean, obviously they have the IV
program and we don't know where all these people will go.
But it's it's very clear that w w wants to
show to their fans that you know, there is an
interest here. We are interested independent wrestling. We are interested
you know, independent wrestlers too. You know, keep working at it,
you might you might make it one day to the WWE.
So yeah, I think from that standpoint, it can't hurt
too to have people know about this. I mean a
lot of people have tryouts and we don't know what happens.
So it's a very possibility that we will We'll never
know what happens to some of these folks. Obviously if
they don't get signed, we will know how it also
went from that perspective, but yeah, I don't think it.
I don't think it hurts their marketability to at least
have it publicly known that WW is interested in.
Speaker 3: So of the names you listed, who would you say
has probably in your mind the best chance of getting
a WW contract of the sort like a w W
I G or yeah, like a w W ID contract.
Speaker 2: The names I've listed, and there's some other names that
you know, we can maybe look into later. As I said,
authors we get confirmed. Actually, the person I think that's
most likely is uh is j Rod because God was
on American Gladiators.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Not that j Rod isn't talented at you know. I
saw j Rod Wreussell at the j c W show
I went to in May. It was yes, so, but
I think because of her, her her look, her a
little bit of a notoriety for being on the show,
and I think w has done a pretty good job
scouting women. For the most part, I see she stands
out to me the most, though you know, some other
people there I could see as well. But if I
had to pick one person off the list to be her.
Speaker 3: I would pick Joshua Bishop. I think he's got you know,
they still like size. It's not as you know, hard
and fast, set and stone as it used to be,
but he is. He's a large individual. He's a good
enough worker, and he's got a lot of charisma, and
he's very inventive. It's his promos and his kind of
weird math facts he likes to bring out. So I
think there's a lot to work with there, So he
would be my pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and josh Bishop is someone that I like quite
a bit seeing him. We actually seen him on the
Indies at least once twice.
Speaker 3: Something Yeah live.
Speaker 2: I saw that Slam Aversary in that very odd fourth
throat match where he teamed silafat and and Edzo, which
didn't really go anywhere. But yeah, I think he's another candidate.
I think he's currently in MLW. I think though again,
I think for anything, especially some of these wrestlers where
they are wrestling. It shows that WWE is they're keeping
aware of what's going on. They're not, you know, blissfully
keeping away from the independence. Did we sure? Did we
see Cody Lane? We saw Cody Lane at war didn't
we that Warrior? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We saw him in Cincinnati. Yeah, so I think twice
we saw him.
Speaker 2: Yes, we saw him against Brian Cage and we saw
him against Sam Beale.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So yeah. I mean it's you know, for someone for
folks that look like us to do this show and
are always looking for that connection with you know, the
wrestlers we watch and going on to be televised, you know,
wrestler on TV. It's cool to say, you know, hey,
someone that we saw at independent show three months ago
or was it May it was a World a Weekend
two months ago, the retry out. That's that's pretty cool
to see it is.
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Speaker 3: It's awesome cool. I mean, we saw him on video
like his rookie year in Black in the Black Label Pro,
so he's come a long way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll try to get a more exhaust exhaustive
list next week or the week after. Sometimes these lists
and completion go to or you'll know all the people
on it when the after trials concluded, So we shall
see and you see people pop up on NXT who
are from tryouts that happened recently, so we'll keep an
eye out for that. This week's show, Justin and I
are going to do is game change your wrestling. I
don't have a good segue life of Blah boss. I'm sorry,
I don't have a good segue. I think about you know,
as most of you know who've done the show, who
listen to our show quite regularly, know that I like
to do a summary kind of how I feel about
the show at the end, and sometimes our conversation helps
shape that for me. I don't write out my full
notes for that until we actually go through the discussion,
but I will say at the beginning I maybe just
for various other reasons, but not a fan of the
show overall. I'll start off by saying that I'll get
to why when we conclude, but I was not a
big fan of the show. The show was available on
Triller TV and it took place July eighteenth, twenty twenty
sixth from Dallas, Texas. Your commentated from Gillies, which I
think I watched, Yeah, we have been a kid.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wrestling thirty two Evolve was there, right, was there? Geez?
There was like a big match that I've already forgotten.
Speaker 2: I think it was lost Prey wrestled.
Speaker 3: Chet Ricochet.
Speaker 2: That's when after that was one of the matches they
had after the whole New Japan Super Junior's conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked hers to remember. Drew McIntire did an
angle where he was mad like Johnny Gargana was going
to n.
Speaker 2: X T basically and yeah.
Speaker 3: And then like six and then the next Treslvania he
missed like he had to like to do an injury
angle at like an Evolved show so he could go
appear on an XT.
Speaker 2: He wrestled the opening match, So yeah, yeah, I won't
do saying Johnny, I'm trying to save you. I won't
do Scottish I think he did.
Speaker 3: He did a variation.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was so mad at him that he
followed the n XT. Yes, So the show began with
highlights from last week's Melee and Manchester actually had two
matches that we covered for VIP the opening Those matches,
by the way, were busting the brain, defending the GCW
Tag Team titles against Starstruck and Richard Holliday versus Bear Bronson,
where Richard Holliday, after losing the match, left his boots
in the ring. People thinking he won't being the Independence
much longer. He had a w trout earlier in the year,
just throwing that out there. The opening match was a
scramble and the rests were already in the ring, and
those wrestlers were Gavin ash, Phil Shark, Salmstretta, Vin Parker,
King Carter, and Bobby Flacco.
Speaker 3: Bobby Flaker was if I can cut you off, yes, distriterate.
They were already in the ring. We didn't have to
waste ten minutes watching them all come out. That was great.
Speaker 2: Yes, the last GCW show we went to, I guess
it's a year ago, almost six months ago, they did
the same thing. They had everyone kind of coming out
right before they started the feed, and then when the
feed started they introduced everyone. So I did save time.
So we appreciate that.
Speaker 3: From see, I don't actually mind it as much if
it's the first match, because it's just like the show
starts like I don't there's no flow to kill yet
of the show. It bugs me more if it's like
like a like second or third and you'd like the
show just stops for ten minutes so all these guys
can come out. So ironically, this would have been a
time I would have been okay with like six guys
coming out, but I did want to make mention. I
usually complained about that, and here they were just all
in the ring.
Speaker 2: So this match, Bobby Flaka was the last person introduced.
He had a missile drop kick off the top rope
and that's how the match started. Reokay with that?
Speaker 3: Uh, I mean yes, because it's like a scramble And yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 2: I feel scramble matches I end up ended up describing
the same way everyone does. A bunch of moves, a
bunch of people end up on the outside. And this match,
Carter uh did a dive onto everyone on the outside.
Then Flacco hit a double stomp onto everyone on the outside.
Of course, after that, Ash hit the shooting star press
onto everyone. So sometimes you get two three moves on
the outside. We got three here. Then finally get everybody
in the ring and Ash hit a shooting star press
onto Parker for the wind. So scramble match, you know,
it's a good way to open the show, and Gavin
Ash is your winner in nine minutes and twenty five seconds.
Speaker 3: Did you think going in that Bobby Flacco is going
to win?
Speaker 2: I thought when I looked at who was there, because
he's the person I know the most. But then I
also realized is that he when he did that opening spot,
I was like, he's probably not win.
Speaker 3: See oh I just assume I thought he was, because
like he is the guy we know the most, but
he's like he's wrestled, you know, internationally. I felt to me,
it's like it's like he's like a known entity and
it's like a bunch of very green guys. Otherwise I'll
say to be polite, So yeah, I was. I was
very surprised he did not get the win. Although he's
not like a known entity in GCW, he's just I mean,
he's big in Action Wrestling. That's where we really know
him from and probably you know, some other Southeastern promotions.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if.
Speaker 3: He's ever been in GCW before. Yeah before, Oh okay,
well there you go. I I don't know. So, like
so like it was hard to get a reading because
there's so many guys. I actually thought like Vin Parker
is probably I thought he showed a lot of potential.
He has a good look and kind of good like
heal charisma. He not like the highlight for him of
the match. But Phil the Shark is or he's actually
Phil Shark, excuse me. He wears a shark's head, appears
to actually, you know, believe he is a shark. At
one point, Vin ripped the head off and Phil flopped
around like a fish out of water, which sounds dumb,
but drew the biggest heat of the match. Up until
that point, there was a very like out of nowhere,
a dumb spot. At some point, Bobby Flacco just opted
to try to do a color on the ref, and
the ref reversed and gave him a Flacco or gave
him a cutter without any explanation why, and then Flacco
was fine, like thirty seconds later anyway. So well, overall,
the match was better than I thought it would be.
Like like I said, I thought Vin Parker was pretty impressive.
I thought Sugar Shane Carter, Sugar, Yeah, Sugar Cane Carter
was also pretty exciting. Who was at the Winter Ash.
I thought he looked good too, But you know, I like,
I really did expect Flacco to do more, and I
don't know, the dumb rest spot was just such an
albatross hanging over the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if the reason why I didn't
look up where Ash was from. I don't know if
he's from Texas and that's not who he won. But
that was a pretty good act. I mean. The problem
with these scramble matches are it's kind of again a
way to get people on the show. A lot of
people on the show are green, so it's sort of
like very basic for them, and it's funny. Not a
big not a big scramble match fan normally, but it
definitely was one of the highlights of this show for
various reasons.
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Speaker 2: Next, we had highlights from Virprus versus Slade from Hartford.
Last week. Virprss won after putting a cinder block in
her shirt. So when Slade spiritter he knocked himself out,
she hit a pile driver on him on more cinder blocks,
which I feel like that would really that would kill you, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like the most that would kill
you a moment of the show, so it's probably I
mean it's top three, so yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Out of the match, she was attacked by Van Doll
forty eight, who we should like, right because they're from Ohio.
Actually we like them.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, I mean I don't know because I mean
they'res specifically from Cleveland obviously Cincinnati and Cleveland. I'm in this,
I'm in Dayton, but Dayton's just kind of like very
close to Cincinnati, so especially football wise, Cinc Anni Cleveland
do not get along. Poor Columbus Cott in the middle somewhere,
forced to like root for a football or a college
football team, so they don't have to take.
Speaker 2: Sides, not all of us.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do like Vandal forty eight because they
you know, they never stooped so low as to wear
Ohio State jerseys.
Speaker 2: They did. Well, we'll get to that. They no, But
I have a question that relates to something, but we'll
It happened later in the show, so I'll get there anyway.
But Viprus will saying they have they had her tied
up in the ropes, They're going to hit her with
light tubes and but they were saved. But she was
saved by Savagenomes and Anakin Murphy. Then a clip of
was shown an earlier day with vipers walking into the arena.
She was attacked by someone in a mask who did
a Tanya Harding. Oh, I did Nancy Carrion so right,
because technically we didn't know at the time it was
Tanya Hearten. It's Nancy Karrigan is more accurate, justin.
Speaker 3: Well and Nancy Nancy Carrigan was the one with the injured.
Speaker 2: Knee, right, that's true. That's better, But I.
Speaker 3: Mean it's the same basic frame of refer.
Speaker 2: The younger younger listening. So longer younger listeners don't remember
the nineteen ninety four Winter Olympics. Do you want to
inform them? Why are you reference someone getting hit with
the nee to be a Nancy Carrigan.
Speaker 3: Well, as it turns out, Nancy Kerrigan. There were two
US Olympic skaters heavily favored, Nancy Kerrigan and Tanya Harding.
Nancy Carrigan was kind of like the Golden Child. Tanya
Harding had a somewhat less distinguished background, and her husband
had the bright idea to hire a hitman to strike
Tanya or strike excuse me, strike Nancy in the knee
of the pipe so she could not compete. It was
like an angle straight out of wrestling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the problem is that people found out and
Tanya Harding was kicked out.
Speaker 3: I believe eventually she did compete in the Olympics, But
ultimately I.
Speaker 2: Was did she compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 3: He didn't compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she didn't. I mean, Nancy Kerrigan won the
silver medal.
Speaker 3: Correct, and Tanya. Tanya did not.
Speaker 2: Place Zaksana Bayoul.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's actually a really really interesting movie from
Tanya Harding's point of view around the last ten years,
called I Tanya with Margot Robbie. Was Tanya Harding?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I never I never saw that.
Speaker 3: It's really good?
Speaker 2: No was it was? It was Oscar movie, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was Best Picture, but.
Speaker 2: She went on for Best Actress.
Speaker 3: He was not named for Best Actress, and Alison Janey
one Best supporting actress is Tony Harding's mother, Ohio's own
Alison Janney.
Speaker 2: By the way, I learned recently that Beverly deangels from Columbus.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know.
Speaker 2: That. Just shows how much we hated the segment we're
going into. Yeah, just from Ohio. But anyway, back to
the show. So this mystery person was run off by
the savage gnomes. I learned that beare Brons wore glasses
because I fell out of his pocket as he went
to chase. I was very nervous because he stooped down
to like him, and Gabby Ford stooped down to help vipers,
and then he chased after the mask, and then these
glasses fell, and then thankfully he picked no one broke them.
When the referece came to help Viperson, he picked them
back up, so the glasses were we're not broken.
Speaker 3: I do feel this is kind of like a swerve angle,
like everyone is assuming it's part of the vandal forty
eight who attacked her, but then it's going to be
someone else instead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be.
Speaker 3: I mean, depending on who it is, you can't you
can't judge it yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If it turns out it's Gabby for is it, that
would be like terrible nonsensical. But if it's I don't know,
you know, someone else, of note, you could you could
make it work.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was stated that Vibrus was taken to a
local medical facility, and the conders mentioned that the period
that Vibrus' schedule match of Christian Napier was in doubt.
The next match was for the GCW World title. Atticus
Kogar is the champion, defending against Emerson Jane. This match
made me uncomfortable. Cougar won in fourteen forty six after
a jobbing skul into Jane's head until she submitted.
Speaker 3: Not a fan, Okay, I mean yes, I think you
have valid reasons to be uncomfortable, but so overlooking those
I first off, I was like, why is the world
title at second? That's really like weird to me.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not like, I'm not in the camp. Your world
title has to close the show, and there's a very
good reason it didn't close the show tonight. But I
will say it's like seconds, like the worst spot, like
it just I think it's better to open the show
than to do it second. So it's just like GCW
SO is very weird about their title. Sometimes it matters,
and sometimes they really treat it like an afterthought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll get to that more in the end
of the summer.
Speaker 3: Well, I think right now. And one reason this show
is not good is it's fallen into the afterthought range
once again, and it's you know, say what you about
the world title, like it provides a focus to any
any like main title for a promotion provides like this
focus for a promotion. I remember when we one time
we did Women of Wrestling, they didn't have a title,
and it just all felt kind of like aimless, even
if it was like good wrestling. So I mean I
think that's it's always like the.
Speaker 2: Goal is a goal is a template. It's something for
people to strive for.
Speaker 3: Right and now it's just like right now, Kogar is
just out there. He's not really he's kind of like
auxiliary to his brother's feud with with Viprous and just
kind of having random world title matches.
Speaker 2: Everson.
Speaker 3: Jane, I don't think I've ever seen before. She was
built as the mother Teresa of work rate, which I
had no idea what that means. I've thought about it
all day, still not really sure. They Jane was actually
like I actually thought Emerson Jay was pretty good.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 3: She is a person I could see he getting in
the tryout. She is Scottish by the way, she had
been trained by Joe Hendry. I'm like, she has a
good look. Honestly, it could be at least a mid
carter in a big promotion.
Speaker 2: She gotta.
Speaker 3: They brawled outside, she gotta. She tried to do a dive,
but Cogard kicked the chair into her leg and did
like a lot of work on the leg. Good announcing
from Johnny Moseley. So Coguard like drape turned the middle
rope and he kicked her in the head and then
she had to like grab the top rope, so he
could like she had to grab the top rope, so
she's sort of like hanging in a seesaw, and then
he would jump off and lake drop her, which is
like ridiculous if you think about it for like two seconds.
But Mosley is like trying to explain the psychology. He's like,
you know, you're in that position. Your body's telling you
not the fall, so you grab the ropes even though
gets you vulnerable. I was like, I like that explanation.
Good job. Johnny Kogar his thing, I've seen him. I've
seen Cogar live. Unfortunately, his thing is the skewers in
the head. And I did have like this funny visual
because he he wears coveralls and he's a he's got
to like just pulls out like stack after stack of skewers,
so I can only imagine him like loading up like
ten packs in the back and just like stuffing them
in his pants. And I was like, oh, man, what
if you want to do like shish kebobs for a cookout?
Right Texas? They like cookouts And you get to the
Kroger's like right after Atticus Kogar and they are out
of Skewers. How bad would you feel?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was feel very upset. Yes, I just bought
one package and this has never happened before. I gotta
keep up with the GCW schedule. See when they're in town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're in Cincinnati in a few weeks, so.
Speaker 2: You better buy.
Speaker 3: I gotta look, Yeah, you better.
Speaker 2: Buy him now. Don't even think about it. If you
think you want to have a shish kabab in two weeks.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, actually you're the one in trouble because
if he's from Cleveland, Columbus, like directly between Cleveland and Cincinnati,
so I can see him stopping in Columbus to grab some.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have to go hopping supermarket hopping for
the skewers.
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Speaker 3: There was also a there's a distraction at one point,
like on the screen. The screen flashed this like QR
code and this message and said they can keep my
soul because God knows I don't need it anymore, which
distracted Cogar and everything else everyone else, So some kind
of mystery there. They tried. Everson tried to do this
tornado d DDT like off the I think I was
off a turnbuckle through the door bridge, but they pretty
much missed the bridge completely and splatted. So she made
up for it by just jumping off a chair and
driving him through the door with a double knee like
you said. Finally he got the submission with a camel clutch.
Jane looked, Okay, I am not a fan of Kogar.
With this tile Ring. We weren't high on it when
it happened, and that was like background on Thanksgiving. I think,
you know, I think I think he's okay as a
mid level heel, even like a heel who could like
work his way up to challenge for the belt. But
like as his like lengthy world champion. You know, it's
not working for me and I don't like, like I said,
like putting the world title match on second kind of
shows the lack of faith in him as champion in
my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he cuts probably better promos than you would think,
and that's helpful, but you know they don't really do that.
They didn't really do that on the show, so they
just had this match here on on second.
Speaker 3: Well that he has no one to really cut promos
on right now, there's no there's no like world title program.
Speaker 2: Yeah there is three. It's three on one against Viprus.
Speaker 3: And he's not the one she's really mad at.
Speaker 2: No highlights from kJ Orso and sam stadkows to feed
the cowboy way through cheating becoming the Numble and tenders
to Facto for the GW tag titles and after the match,
or So in Stackhouse Challenge Buster in the brain for
said tag team titles. We will be covering that later
on in the show. The next match is Chris Carter
versus Leeds Lewis. I looked up Lee Lewis. Lee Lewis
is from France. We've seen him on quite a few
GCSW shows. Must be here for a few weeks in
the United States.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw he was at that He was in
one of the six men at the July fourth Ballpark show.
So actually it was kind of impressed by him at
that time, so I was very interested to see him
in a singles match to see what he could do.
Speaker 2: They Carter did a dive on top of Lewis. They
end up getting back in the ring and Carter hit
a stunner took out both men. They got up and
traded strikes. Leeds hit a close line, short arm, closed
line and a moon salt. Then he hit a corkscrew
split legged moon salt to get the win. Leeds Lewis
has been impressive getting a single wins here over Chris Carter,
not the wide receiver from Ohio State and from the
Vikings in eight minutes and two seconds.
Speaker 3: So the big problem to me was this match. They
put Alec Price on commentary, and he was just like
so over the top. It was like very distracting. I
think they put him on here just so we could
hear him say Chris Katta in his Boston accent. But
he's like screaming every screaming at the top of his lungs.
It felt like for the whole eight minutes he've almost
like trying to put Leeds over huge. He was likes,
guys only had thirty matches and he's taken the world
by you know, taking the wrestling world by storm. But
it was just, I mean, it was very distracting to me.
It was the match was like okay, but also like,
if you consider it is with the guy who's only
had like thirty some matches, it was pretty good. Like
he's seemed pretty like like he's no great shakes yet,
but I think for that number of matches he did
seem pretty advanced. He did a lot of like kind
of cool moves. At one point, though oddly he they're
doing they he and Carter are going like a criss
cross back and forth, and Lewis just tries up Haley
kick but apparently had a signal cross because Carter was
like in the Ropes, but it didn't look like he
was expecting and Leeds clear looked like he was expecting
to hit and just like splatted and they just kind
of looked at each other and got up. But then
they just went with it and finished whatever they were
trying to do. So, I mean, it's good to recover.
You know, we're all making we will all make mistakes,
and you know you shouldn't let perfect be the enemy
of good.
Speaker 2: Next, highlights were shown from Melee in Manchester, where someone
in a mask attacked Anak and Murphy and him only
it looked like it was a bramble match, and Charles
Mason ended up defeating Gabby Forzo the Tombstone. After the match,
Mason kept attacking Foza and Bren Bronson made the safe,
setting up their match at j c W's in our House,
which we'll be coming here, which we will be covering
here next week.
Speaker 3: I am pumped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully we'll enjoy that show overall more than we
enjoyed this one.
Speaker 3: There was one match on here I was excited about
and it was I it was okay, but a little
that was the tag time, I mean the tag title match.
I actually thought they built the tag title match really well.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we you know, and I referenced this. I
referenced this one. I did the Last Row with Wade
and a lot of conversations about wrestling. But we sometimes
picked shows based on shows we watch and how matches
are promoted. Then we want to see the conclusion. So
I feel that tag match, well, how it went, we'll
get to it. It was to lead to something else.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: The next match was Cowboy Ways Tag Match one call
Manners and Thomas Shire versus Savage Gnomes, Bear Bronson and
Gabby Forza. Ah, this match became well it's gcw right,
so then doors became involved, right, Bronson got a door
into the ring, but then he got hit with the
spear through it. And I will one thing that you know,
Bar Bronson, I feel like a lot of his matches
he just starts. He just stops selling at some point. Yeah,
and yeah, it's become quite a bit they this, of course,
I don't know. In fear our concern or whatever, Cowboy
Way started hitting Amanders, sorry, started hitting Bronson with the
parts of the the door that were just broken into.
Manders hit a closed line on Bronson and Forsa then
hit strikes on Manders and Shire. Manders did a closed
line on Forza, but then she I guess like her
husband popped up and hit him with the spear and
then hit Shire with the Samoan drop. Uh. Forza hit
a spear on Manders for a two count, but Shire
grabbed Forza. Manders hit a lariot but Forza kicked out,
and then Manders hit another lariat for the win. So,
Cowboy Way, were your winners in sixteen minutes and twenty
six seconds. After the match, Manders gave credit to Savage Milmes.
They traded hats and then the cheers in the ring
non alcoholic for Thomas Shire, I guess he had a
diet cocos his request. The other three had beer. But
fun match. Cowboy Way your winners in sixteen minutes and
twenty six seconds.
Speaker 3: So it occurred to me that they should be They
should do a six man tag with Gabby Forest and
Varre Bronson teaming with Brick Savage, and then they could
be the Savage Savage nomis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not about it, Double Savage.
Speaker 3: Double savage. Yes, if that if that matches out there.
Speaker 2: R R two, they could be the number two, the
two Savage Homes two savage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, two savage. Oh that's good right anyway, if
that matches out there, Torch Coast to Coast at gmail
dot com let us know. This was my favorite match
on the show. I thought it was pretty awesome. Actually
it there's a lot of comedy, a lot of focus
on headwear. It's to start, which it might not be
everyone's cup of tea. Uh. I mean it starts with
Floriza trying to put her no hats on the cowboys
and they pretend to take them and then you know,
stomp on them, and so Bronz and slaps Manders to
me in like a hilariously indignant way, which it led
to the brawling read to the match, and there's something
with the stuffed alligator that I didn't quite understand, but
once they finally got into the rig, this was an
awesome power match with all four like just throwing each
other around like crazy. Savage Nomes do this spot that
will always like guarantee you get like a massive pop
and rightfully so. And it's when Gabby slams her husband
onto somebody. I like they have to do it like
every match, like it's just such like a perfect spot.
I can see why people go crazy for it at
what point? So at what point, like Shier gave Bear
a helicopter slam and he covered him and forced. The
solution to break up this pin was to slam Manders
on top of it, which got the massive pop. But
I mean, you see lots of like ridiculous ways people
break up pit and falls. I think to me, usually
the most ridiculous is a guy flying in with a swanton,
which I think Jordan Oliver does an occasion to break
up a pin, but this might be even more so,
Like she could have just like pushed the guy off
or dropped an elbow, but she opted to slam a
large gentleman instead. Oh, they like there was lots of
like double down stuff. At one point, Bear and Shyre
clothes lined each other and Johnny Moseley equipped It seemed
to be the game plan for both of us to
run through their opponents' faces, which I really liked. So,
like I said, I mean, I guess I thought it
started there was too much focus on the headwear, but
when they got away from the comedy and did this
straight match, it was like a pretty awesome power exhibition.
And to me, I'm like Forza and Bear as this
married power couple is a tremendous act. Like you know,
I think they could take it to a lot of
indie like a big traveling attraction to indie shows. And
to me, it's like TNA should snap her up. I think,
you know, it's we've seen like they don't always you know,
as they you can know a couple's married, they don't
always have to be involved in it in like each
other's business or feuds like you know, Seth Rollins and
Becky Lynch are a good example. Like you know, sometimes
they enter each other's orbits and then they go off
and do their own thing. But I mean, I think
Gabby for is it and Bear like doing this. I
think we get over we get over huge And like
I said, I think Gabby. Gabby has really developed a
lot in the past couple of years. You know, she's
has this really dear in quality with the gnome hats
and just kind of like a cute demeanor. But then
also she does awesome powers off. You know, she throws
giants around with ease, including her husband. So I really
believe there's like a lot of untapped potential truthfully in
the Savage Noviies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did appear. TNA is having a tournament for
their inaugural women's TV title. She did appear in uh,
in the tournament opening match, So may see more for
their TNA needs. You know, they've they've had they need
to add a few of them to their women's division.
So not the worst shout out. Uh, not the worst
thought there.
Speaker 3: I mean she's a better worker than at least a
few of them that I can think of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, she's getting a decent buzz as well,
Like I can't hurt either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Next, they showed highlights from Anakin Murphys Christian Napier in Hartford.
Otis Cougar Kogar interfear to give Napier the win, and
that leads us to what is our next schedule match,
Napier versus Vipress. Naprier comes out for the next match
he's supposed to be against Viprus, who we know is injured,
and gets counted out. It did as a Scarlett Donovan
was one of the referees who helped Vipers in the back,
so she would know that Vipress wasn't gonna come out.
But anyway, Napier. They count to ten, Viprus doesn't make it,
so Napier's declared the winner. He goes to leave, but
then he comes back and says that he would rather
be in Ohio than Texas. And then he does the
oh chant, which what I was gonna reference I referenced earlier.
That's that chant is beer than just Ohio state, that's
the whole whole state of Ohio. Yes, yeah, you're sick
with such indignation.
Speaker 3: It is sometimes they do it when they land in
a plane lands.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that when I first moved here, and I
was like, is this what we have to do to
make sure we land safely? Only do it, but I
want to make sure we hit the tarmac all right now.
Speaker 3: H Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Napier calls out an open challenge to anyone from
Dallas and outcomes Danny O'Brien. So we have Christian Napier
versus Dallan Danny o'ryanne nape Napier hit a hell of
a kick and angels wings for a two count. Orian
Uh went for a lethal injection, but nate Bier got
out of it and was able to get a pinfall
or two count. Napier went for her coronta, but he
wasn't able to hit it, and then Orion hit sorry,
justin he had a crucifix.
Speaker 3: Driver, yes, which was awesome, very awesome.
Speaker 2: And what does that lead to.
Speaker 3: I'm losing thunderbomb now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an exposed corner that earlier. Even though
Arion hit this very impressive, very nice crucifer fixed driver
didn't stop him from being shoved into the corner that
exposed corner and he got hit with the orton. Sorry,
Orian got hit with a shell shot DT for the
win by Napier. Christian Napier is your winner, because when
you do a crucifix you don't win. Kind of a
blue thunderbomb in nine minutes and forty one seconds.
Speaker 3: Somebody did a blue thunderbomb earlier, I think in the scramble,
but I don't think. I don't think that person won,
but I don't think they pinned, So I don't know
how that goes for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure what the rules are with scramble matches.
I think the scramble there's just so many moves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was a hard match because it's like
Oriyan like literally is a replacement. I don't think anybody
expected him to win, so it was kind of an
uphill battle. But I actually thought they had a good
normal style match without the you know, usual fandal forty
eight garbage stuff like they just you know, like we said,
we had the awesome crucifix driver. It was decent back
and forth, you know, it was I think, really the
first time I seen Napier away from that kind of
environment and he wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well more Yeah, I say that for
the end. Highlights from Usta in the brain defeating starts
struck in Manchester, a matter covered from VIP as you
said earlier, and then they cut a promo on kJ
or So in sam stock House with one of the
most and I watched a lot of resting in my life,
probably one of the worst ending cashphrase I've ever heard, yes,
which was something you met with Sluss. You gotta swim,
doesn't he gotta swim with us? It's I don't even remember,
You're gonna drown.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even like people love alc Price because of
the exaggerated Boston accent, so it should be like because
you're a gobbage, you know, that's used to be his thing.
That's what people want from Alec Price.
Speaker 2: The next match is Joey Janella versus Brick Savage. Joey
Janella is on a losing streak.
Speaker 3: I admit I was excited to see this. I've been
We only see Brick infrequently because he mostly sticks to Texas,
but I always am excited when I do.
Speaker 2: Well. This mattress in Texas right exactly. Brick uh slammed
Janella into a corner and then hit a kick. Joey
was able to counter that into a superplex, which had
both men on the ground. Another dive on the outside,
but Brick caught Janella and hit a spinebuster on the
side of the ring that looked very painful for me
sitting at home. We had a Janella hit a tornado
two t on a on a chair for a two count,
and then a top rope stomp on a chair for
another two count, and then but Brick Savage able to
recover your death valley driver onto another chair and then
put Janella in a cobra clutch and Janella tapped out.
So Brick savages in Texas. He wins. Joey Janelle's on
a losing streak. He loses Brick Savage is your winner
in thirteen minutes and forty three seconds.
Speaker 3: I thought this was pretty good. Actually it's it was
I don't think it's the Joey Jenella and ask people
to expect, but it was actually a really good power
and trying to fight from underneath. But at the same time,
he's getting progressively more desperate, you know, to win's he's
given himself a rather foolish deadline to get a win
and now he's he's he's given himself the yips. You know,
he keeps making mistakes and can't get it done. So
there's a lot, you know, story wise wise, there's a
lot going on. As I said, I always enjoyed Brick Savage.
His name like goes all the way from being like
so ridiculous it actually becomes awesome again. Like it's just
like a very eighties way. And I think he's a
good power guy, Like you know, he does a lot
of like cool power stuff, you know, able to kind
of let Joey bounce off of him, and at the
end he's busted open, but Sandy victorious in a very
cool visual.
Speaker 2: Highlights were shown of the next match, which is the
match we've mentioned a few times we're excited to see.
Which is for the GCW World Tag Team Championship. Busta
and the Brain Jordan Oliver and Alex Price against kJ
Orso and Sam stack House. We hadn't had I don't
believe we had a ref bump prior did this match. No,
so we're gonna have one here. Price hit a frog
splash on or So and looked like that would be
the win for Busts on the Brain, but Sam Stackhouse
pulled the referee from the ring and hit the referee,
which again it's very interesting, but what this leads to
because again the heels take out the referee. I still
also hit the character assassination, which is their finisher on Oliver.
Looked like they were going to win. Of course there's
no ref and the lights went out. When the lights
went back on, Hook appeared, who Hook threw a chair
at Stackhouse and sup plex or So put Urso in
the rhetorum a busting the Brain through stackoffs off the
top off the turnbuckle onto or So and then pinned
or So for the win. So Busting the Brain won
in seventeen minutes and thirteen seconds to retain the DCW
World typing titles best referenced earlier. This seems to be
more of a setup for a match between Hook and kJ.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is disappointing because, like you said, I was
really excited about for this match. To me, it felt
like naively in retrospect, it felt like time for busting
the brain to lose the belts. But they are their
aw contracted guys, so I think it is very politically
difficult for them to lose. I don't know exactly how
they'll get the belts off of them unless it's like
like some sort of triple threat situation where they don't
do the job. That's that's probably how they'll do it.
I'm a mixed mind too, because obviously I think, well,
obviously GCW is very heel heavy at the moment, and
I think you need like some heroes and you need
like you don't need all your titles controlled by heels.
But at the same time, I really feel like Also
and Stackhouse are a good team, and I think a
lot of ways this match I found myself thinking rooting
for them to win the belts. For some reason, they
work really I think they at least according to storyline,
they're like they were legitimately friends. They refeuded like last
year and Stackhouse or or so like mauled them in
an equip match and then threatened to murder his wife.
So of course they became a tag team after that.
It's things happened in wrestling. He and the wife actually
made up prior to the match, which I you know,
good continuity, But I mean they do like a what
point they had the spot where like they both did
like they speared like one of the Busters in the
Brain in the corner and then they did this like
cheesy grin with a you know, resting their fists on
their chin or their chins on their fists, and I
was like, these guys are kind of amazing. So, I
I don't know, it's actually like until the end, the
end is very overbooked, and like you said, it was
really more of an angle to get to somewhere else.
But I thought before that they were having a very
a very good match, and I don't know, hopefully we
will get back to them getting the belts somehow by
Hooker Crooks some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we kind of anticipated it being a
match that or So in Stockhouse would win because we
we've seen Bust in the Brain be the champions for
all while we assume because they are signed to AW
they won't be around much longer. So in a lot
of ways, it was sort of like something different. Also,
you know, you changed the dynamic. You had a babyface
team before, now you have a heel team, and who
could maybe you know, maybe there's a feud with the
Savage Gnomes or or Cowboy Way, who are both babyface teams. Yeah,
it seemed to be from a booking on paper, more
options that way. Additionally, I guess mentally for us, it's
like we we you know, as I said, we cover
shows and then we see a match and we're enthralled
by it and we're that's kind of the main reason
why we watched the show, and then we want that
to lead to some kind of conclusion, and then you
see that's really was a setup for another feud, and
that I think mentally, at least for me, I won't
speak for you, that kind of like knocks it back
of it because you're kind of like, oh, I thought
we were doing something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Differently, the end was very deflating, like
it wasn't just like a clean finish, it was it's
really about orso in hook I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume that's a match for Homecoming coming up
next one. It's my guess.
Speaker 3: I think I think they announced Hook was appearing somewhere,
but I forget. I canna say it was at LA,
but maybe that one. He's scheduled next in GCW in
September in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Yea, so maybe they do that match there the next match.
So they went over the schedule for the next few
months of shows, and then we have our main event
for the GCW Ultra Violent title, Otis Kogar versus you
know Extreme O. This is a death match. I don't
like death matches, and nothing like having a death match
where people can run in as well, which of course
happens when Van the four eight runs in viprus Vide.
Those of you who were wondering if she would return,
she does here to sort of make make the galleants say.
She fights off Atticus, Kogar and Napier and you think
this is gonna lope, but actually it doesn't because he
gets powered by my Otis Cooker anyway and loses. So
Otis Coogar is your winner and retains the GCW Ultra
Violent title. In fourteen minutes and thirty nine seconds after
the match, Van of forty eight goes to beat up
Viprus Forza Bronson. The Savage Gnomes come out and they
are attacked and taken out, and so they end up
tying vipruses Viprus to the ropes and hit her repeatedly
with light tubes, something the Tea is doing in the
last show again, something that made me uncomfortable, and that's
how the show concluded. Adjusting what your thoughts on? What
were your thoughts on the last match?
Speaker 3: Is not a fan of this too, to the point
I would call it pretty bad and death matches and
I have a weird relationship, but it just it has
to be in the right mood, I think. But also
there are death some death matches are better than others.
In this one, I don't think it was very good.
Nino Extremo, I think it's pretty cool name the wrestling
Wise Mosley said Nino is one of the hottest rising
stars in independent wrestling. We watch a lot of independent wrestling.
I've never seen the guy before, although I don't think
we watched the circles he wrestles in based on what
he does here. Also, like his back was already all
taped up and like like obviously stitched up, so like,
I think he had a match the night before. I
don't think, you know, don't do multiple death matches in
a row. I don't think anything good comes to that.
You know, they start, they get with the goofy weapons.
At first, he has a thumbtack covered baseball bat that
sounds impressive when he waxed cover with it. Then our old,
my old friend, the gusset plate comes back. I've not
seen a gusset plate in a long time. At this point,
I was like, this match is gonna be okay, and
it was downhill from there. Unfortunately. You know, I don't
know if he's a good wrestler, but that guy can scream.
He is great. It's screaming and he got a big
chance because they did a lot of stuff to him.
Otis then has like an actual like straight blade, I think,
which this is the part I was like, took me
out of it because gusset plates and light tubes and
thumbtack bats are all like cartoonishly ridiculous weapons. The gusset
plate less so but you know, you're like, okay, I
don't know, they're so like over the top, like I
can't really too disturbed by it, but like he had
like an actual knife. It's like, why you know he
could cut this guy's throat. It's just I don't know
it was that was the point. I was just over
too over the top for me or not over the top,
I don't know it. It landed in the uncanny valley
of uncomfortableness for me, and then I don't know, it
just goes on. At least it was not as long
as I feared. Like I've seen twenty five minute death
matches that just doesn't feel like they will ever end.
This was under fifteen, but you know it was bad
and you know, indicative of a lot of like I
think the biggest problems plaguing in GCW. Right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I welso this is GCW's Life of the Boss.
It's available on shot or TV, so a couple of things. Honestly,
having that match the main event, it's you know, it's
for some people. I'm not those people. I I'm someone
who when we started doing the show was not a
fan of intergender wrestling, and through doing the show, I've
seen some instances where I've actually really enjoyed it, and
some matches I've really enjoyed. These examples are not one
of them because it seems more like violence towards women.
I know the women are participating, they end up getting
their shots in, but yeah, it just makes me feel uncomfortable.
For that reason. I I compared the Vandal forty eight
to the Death Riders in ACW. The in AEW For me,
they've just liked because they're like part of the main event.
Few they've like taken everything down one. We were very
surprised when Atticus Kogar has made the GCW Champion, and
I don't know if he's the right person for that,
especially when his matches are the second match on the show.
He's in a feud where he's secondary and it's a
three on one feud against Viprus and the whole purpose
of it is to like hit her with life tubes.
And it just it's just not something that I have
a lot of interest in. And I know, as I
said before, we covered this match. We covered the show
because we want to see the tag team Tyler match.
And I also enjoyed, you know, the other tag team
match and Rick Savage versus Janella and some other stuff
as well was at least decent. But I just can't
take those two matches away and not have them really
cloud my entire vision of the overall show. I know
there is an audience that likes this stuff, and you know,
I guess if it's legal, you know, what can I say?
But I'm not part of that audience. And I just
I think GCW has had at times things that have
stood out that have been things that have a lot
of interest can provide our interests to other people. I
just don't see how Banel forty eight and hitting everybody
with light tubes is really providing that. But that could
be wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to me, the big problems I think
Vandal forty eight, they're too dominant, especially as a heel team.
There's no strong force to stand up to them. You
have Vipress, but I mean one, I don't know why
they're so mad at Vipress or she's so mad at them,
and then you know, it just seems like she's good.
They just beat her up at every turn, and it's like, okay, well,
you know the Savage Gnomes could stand up to them,
and they just got immediately taken out without much thought.
So it's just you know, who's there, like Joey, Like
Joey Janelle is in his losing streak thing. Even if
he is, you know, it's not even clear if he's
heal her face right now, there's just no direction. It
feels like other than just like Vandal forty eight beating
everybody up, and so it's just it's it's too but
it's too much of a downer. It's no, it's no
fun to me, Like I just they need like they
need a strong babyface to stand up to them, I think.
So I think, to me, that's the biggest problem. Like
I said, I don't think Kogar works as your world champion.
As unrelated but where's Efie he is? I realized he
has not wrestled for GCW since WrestleMania weekend, so I googled.
I had not seen like any signs of problems or anything,
but he's still out there wrestling. And I mean he's
kind of like one of their big faces. I don't know,
like when I was never like the hugest Fie fan,
but it just I think his absence is definitely being felt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they need need something different. And you know,
when when when Kolgar won the title, I thought they
were gonna do something where it's like, Okay, we're gonna
have him him have it on. There'll be some sort
of babyface challenger steppened, and I think they desperately need
someone to to be a counter and maybe that's someone
will help vipers, but it's actually also another heel running
around to who might cost trouble. So who knows gonna happen.
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