WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.240 Tuesday. Why is this week grinding on? Glad to have 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:07.120 you along. I don't know what Ril's up to, but 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.400 you know, if you're gonna do this, more power to you. 4 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:15.279 I will as as I will criticize, I will also 5 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:20.359 say good job when you know on the off chance 6 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:24.280 that that happens. And I don't know, like, what was 7 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:26.399 the article the other day that Ril wrote that. I 8 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:30.839 was just shocked that they wrote, oh it was maybe 9 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.960 it was Hurricane Helene stuff, and I was just like, finally, 10 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:38.359 but this is this is awful. 11 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:40.039 This is. 12 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:46.399 This is exactly why whenever there is something that happens, 13 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.200 there's a gun related and all of a sudden, you 14 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.439 get all you know, this all the same activists that 15 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.560 pop out of the woodwork. Although, as some folks have noted, 16 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:01.039 it's interesting following the Luigi thing, how there we didn't 17 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:05.480 like the president didn't call for gun control, or we 18 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:10.840 didn't have marches. That's weird, huh. In a ceo literally 19 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.719 gun down in his back in the back in the 20 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.599 in the middle of Manhattan, the middle middle of Manhattan, 21 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:21.319 didn't have all the gun stuff. That's that's that's weird. Huh. Okay, Anyway, 22 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.239 but you can't sit there and scream for more laws 23 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.079 about stuff if you're going to not enforce the other ones. 24 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.959 And whenever somebody says that, they're like, oh no they are, 25 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.840 it's just you know, you gotta uh, you gotta you 26 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.000 gotta stop it at the thing, or you gotta you 27 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:40.879 gotta make sure that it doesn't get to this point, 28 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.879 or uh whatever, uh whatever the excuse is. I don't 29 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:49.040 want to hear any of it. In fact, Ross, will 30 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.400 you do me a favor here in in about what 31 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.200 do you think thirty minutes to an hour? Will you 32 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.920 text the Durham mayor since we now have a relationship 33 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:00.760 with the Mayor of Durham and he was we had 34 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.159 a pretty good conversation the other day. I'm gonna send 35 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:05.040 you the story he's I'm sure he's clear of the 36 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.759 story or it's right. It's right on Ril's front page. 37 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:15.240 No Consequences records revealed Durham DA's policy not to prosecute 38 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:22.240 gun charges. I would like to, Yeah, let's reach out 39 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.159 to the Durham mayor. You're a little it's it's early yet. 40 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.159 I don't know what time he gets up, so we'll 41 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:31.759 call it six thirty six forty five on's he had 42 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.960 a chance to digest this thing, because I have to 43 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:40.759 assume he's got some thoughts here. So this is this 44 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.159 is a this is a bonker story because I guess 45 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:48.400 if you're new to North Carolina, you just got here 46 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:56.599 today from Estonia. No, No, they have internet because they 47 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.719 have all those hackers over there. If you just got 48 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.960 here to day from North Sentinel Island, well one, you're 49 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.719 probably running around just murdering everyone. But let's say you're not, 50 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.360 and you just got here and for whatever reason you 51 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.960 you understand English, Durham's got a little bit of a 52 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.280 violence and a little bit of a gun problem, all right, 53 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:21.400 and they know right there's there's a lot of reasons 54 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.560 we're not. We're not gonna sit here and break down 55 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.759 all the reasons for it. I just want to break 56 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.719 down one particular one, and that is this internal email 57 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.840 is obtained by w r a L investigates through a 58 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:40.000 public records request. So they're putting this in email show 59 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.960 a possible explanation for one factor driving crime. And Durham, 60 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.039 I will tell you what I think the reason for 61 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.120 doing this story about it, and I think you're seeing 62 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:53.360 it is course correction is course correction, the there is 63 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.719 even though there nobody will admit it, and it's and 64 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:02.280 some will actively deny it. Most most of the folks 65 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.680 in media right now are realizing they done gone too far. 66 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.840 And you saw some of it with Biden at the 67 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.439 debate where they all got shown like how bad he 68 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.560 really is, which, by the way, how bad is he still? Now? 69 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.079 This is? This is the thing I don't unerstand. I 70 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.319 understand he's just a few days away, Like does that 71 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.240 we still have to have somebody in charge, Like if 72 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:32.600 he is non functional, if if he's still not able 73 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.720 to function, and arguably this has been going on for 74 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.000 a while, don't you still have an obligation? I hate 75 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:39.680 the idea that Harris would be in charge for a 76 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.040 few days, but like you don't you still have an 77 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.480 obligation because like, something could happen here in the one 78 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.839 month between now and the inauguration or slightly over one month. 79 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:56.319 That's another story for another day, all right. So I 80 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.920 think you're seeing course correction on the on on the 81 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.079 part of the media, where they're having to do softer 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.920 stories or fairer stories, or at least stories that actually 83 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.160 kind of address this because you could not convince me 84 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.720 that Ariol would write this story a year ago, even 85 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.480 if they're staring at the emails. That's my opinion. I 86 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:18.240 don't know. I just I don't think it would be 87 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.680 a priority, but I'm glad that it is here. So 88 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:28.079 in the email obtained through public records, request a policy 89 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:33.519 from District Attorney Santana Duberry's office to not prosecute some 90 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:36.519 possession of firearm by a felon charges. So let's understand 91 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:40.000 what we're talking about. These are folks who are already felons. 92 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:45.120 These are folks who then come into contact with law 93 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:49.399 enforcement for a variety of reasons, and at the time 94 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:53.120 of their arrest or or they're charging. I guess if 95 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.680 they're not arrested but are on the lamb and they're 96 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.480 wanting them, they are in possession of a firearm. It 97 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:04.000 doesn't mean that they used it. And this is this 98 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.519 is where seemingly the dividing line is. But simple possession 99 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.199 of that firearm. So if they go put a guy 100 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.040 against a car and they're patting them down and they 101 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.959 come across a handgun and uh, you know it's it's 102 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.800 Billy Bob's handgun or whatever. And it's it's clearly his handgun, 103 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.920 and and and he's got a record, then he is 104 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.600 guilty of possession of a firearm by a felon. It's 105 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.120 pretty cut and dry. He can tell you that it 106 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.639 blew into his pants or those aren't his pants, or 107 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.519 any of the rest, but ultimately it meets the requirements. 108 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:43.199 So apparently what the DA's office is doing here is 109 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.879 they are deciding whether that gun was being used in 110 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.800 a violent manner or a threatening manner or really came 111 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.240 into play. So you know it, it sounds like if 112 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.720 the same scenario, let's let's go traffic stop scenario. Okay, 113 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.839 you go, there's a traffic stop scenario, and uh, and 114 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.079 the police have whatever probable cause to get people out 115 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:07.319 of the car. Well, they can ask you to get 116 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.920 out of the car anyway, that's that's the thing. You 117 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.319 do have to get out. By the way, it's an 118 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.680 officer safety issues spring court ruling on this thing, but whatever, 119 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.160 And then give you a quick pat down, right and uh, 120 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.480 And and you get that easy shoved in your pants 121 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:27.319 which are barely supporting its weight, and in that in 122 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.759 the but you didn't brandish it. You didn't even say anything. 123 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.879 Those are cases that in the in the email, it 124 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.160 sounds like the office would not prosecute Now if you 125 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.759 had brandished the gun, maybe even if you showed it, 126 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.800 or god forbid, if you fired at somebody, then they 127 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:45.560 would seemingly charge people with felon in possession of a firearm. 128 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:53.079 That's a really dumb way to do it, because a 129 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:59.160 person who is a felon, person who is a felon 130 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:06.199 who has even if it's a nonviolent crime, they have 131 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:12.079 more incentive because they have more to lose in potentially 132 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:16.839 using that firearm, and there is a higher likelihood that 133 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:21.839 the reason they have that firearm may be anticipation of 134 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:26.920 the commission of a crime, right because pre felon has 135 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.079 a higher recidivism rate or higher probability of committing a 136 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:36.320 felony than a non felon. It's just math. So by 137 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.440 not addressing that, you what you're doing is you're essentially 138 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.480 telling a felon who wants to run around with a 139 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.360 firearm in case they see some cool felon stuff they 140 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.039 want to do, or you know, it's part of a 141 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.480 pattern of gang behavior where you know they anticipate they 142 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.159 may have to get into some sort of shootout with 143 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:03.240 folks that they're not d incentivized to carry that gun. 144 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:08.039 This is what's insane. It literally is increasing or decreasing. 145 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:14.559 I should say, officer safety, let me ask, let me 146 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.840 ask my law enforcement listeners. Who are you more nervous 147 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:22.440 of a convicted felon in possession of a gun or 148 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:27.440 some random dude in possession of a gun but maybe 149 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.200 in a manner where they're concealing it but they haven't 150 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.600 met the requirements there, which is a different charge. Who 151 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.000 makes you more I know you don't want to you 152 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.200 don't want surprise guns anywhere, but you can't tell me 153 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.799 that a felon or felon's not being d incentivized to 154 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.519 carry a firearm. You want them scared to the point 155 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.000 where they would never they would never think about it. 156 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.360 So not only are you making it more dangerous for 157 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.919 law enforcement who has to encounter these folks because they 158 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.519 don't feel. In fact, there's a study and that's listed 159 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.519 in this story. I'll get into the language of what 160 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.399 was in the email here in a moment, but it 161 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.200 basically points out that one of the problems in Durham 162 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:12.559 is both felons don't feel that it's that it's enough 163 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.799 of a risk to carry a gun. So they carry 164 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.480 a gun. That's like, that's not all of them, but 165 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:22.639 all but even if you have one, this is this 166 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:29.759 is this is absolutely insane. Let's see here, all right, 167 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.360 So here's here's how this came to light. So basically, 168 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:39.360 one of the assistant DA's had some charges. All right, 169 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.919 So this is actually Durham's lead assistant District Attorney, Elizabeth Ingram. 170 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.399 He received an email from David Flores, who is a 171 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.080 senior police officer. Okay, so it's actually the law. So 172 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.399 the police officers doing their due diligence, like, hey, we 173 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.360 arrested this guy, he was in possession of a firearm. 174 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.519 Why is it when we make this arrest and these 175 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.120 are what we arrest him on, you choose not to 176 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.399 prosecute this? And the officer wrote, he said, I'm just 177 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.960 following up to see the reason or if there's anything 178 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.000 on our end that affected the dismissal. That's good due 179 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.399 diligence on the part of the police officer. He's not 180 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.960 accusing him of not prosecuting for any reason other than 181 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.360 he wants to understand did one of my officers make 182 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.080 a mistake and how they came to learn that they 183 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:27.200 had a gun or any of these. Right, that's a 184 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.480 police officers do what a police officer should do. And 185 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:34.080 probably because well not probably clearly looks because they're wanting 186 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:38.799 to make it more safe for officers. So he writes them, 187 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:40.840 he's like, did we mess up? Did somebody not read 188 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.159 them the right? Whatever, and actually got a response that said, 189 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.480 I don't think that particular case was a good one 190 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:53.200 for constructive possession. And this is a quote from it. 191 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:58.360 Da Dewberry also has a particular philosophy slash policy when 192 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.639 it comes to firearm by fellon charges that are not 193 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.559 accompanied by violence or threats of violence, and keeping with 194 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.279 that policy, I've dismissed this case. Dude, you're putting that down. 195 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.919 You're putting that down in writing. So again, if the 196 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.000 if it may fell in possession of a gun literally 197 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.039 just being a felon and in possession of the gun 198 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:23.279 provably in possession, that's a charge, and that's a charge 199 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.960 that is used to deincentivize people even if they didn't 200 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.080 use a gun the first time around, but who have 201 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:34.240 a higher likelihood to be you know, in the possibility 202 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.000 of reoffending or or in the commission of a crime. 203 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.759 And really this is about let's you know, at the 204 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:43.279 end of the day, this is about people carry guns 205 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:45.879 on the regular. Maybe they do it through because it's 206 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.039 a gang thing, and maybe they just do it because 207 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.440 the neighborhood they live in, but have this pattern of 208 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:55.120 criminal behavior and you want to deincentivize them, and they 209 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.600 literally won't prosecute as long as they don't point it 210 00:12:57.639 --> 00:12:59.399 at somebody. So what it tells me if I'm a 211 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.039 fella with a gun, is I'm gonna hold onto this thing. 212 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.240 And if they're you know, and maybe I'll lose that gun, 213 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:06.720 I'll go get go get me a new one. But 214 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.519 if I'm not going to get charged for it, why 215 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:11.759 would I not the moment I deal with whatever my 216 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:14.720 other charges are, go out and run around with a gun. 217 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.360 And then if the opportunity presents where you know, that 218 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.159 guy we got beef with is over at the you 219 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.759 know the sheets, why don't we just blow through there 220 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.240 or over at Crabtree Mall and get into an old 221 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.879 cowboy style gunfight. You absolute lunatics, What is happening over there? 222 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.120 Don't you dare? Don't you dare ask for a single 223 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:38.399 gun law if you're not going to enforce one of 224 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:46.279 the easiest ones to enforce, Hesek, sorry, hold on uh. 225 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.039 Carissa Hessek, who's a professor at UNC, said, it's rare 226 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.960 for the public to find out about these policies. Well, 227 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.039 maybe we should make it not so rare so that 228 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.279 the public can really understand who who is part of 229 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:05.480 keeping them safe, because clearly this is not a practice 230 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.840 that is that is probably best practices for keeping people safe. 231 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.759 Esx said, prosecutors have discretion to determine which charges to enforce, 232 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:17.960 and then they get it. They get into some scenarios 233 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:23.360 like they pull they pull a car over and it 234 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:25.399 leads to a search of the vehicle. And while they 235 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.360 don't find a firearm on any of the four occupants 236 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.679 in the car, they find a firearm in the car. 237 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.240 And let's say the two in the backseater felons, the 238 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:36.879 two in the front are not, and it's found in 239 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:38.960 like the glove box in the front. Can you charge 240 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.080 the people in the back? Probably not. Can he charge 241 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:44.200 the passenger sitting in front of the globbox that they're 242 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:47.240 a felon? Now we're in a different thing. How about 243 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:50.759 the owner of the vehicle, it's their glovebox. If they're 244 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.879 a felon, can he charge them? They deal with these 245 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:58.879 questions each and every day, all right, So then they 246 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.480 talk to a couple other ded like Rn Freeman and 247 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:09.960 Jeff Neeman who's Orange and Chatham. No do Berry's office 248 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:14.200 did decline an interview request. I did release a statement 249 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.200 said it's not a written or blanket policy and possession 250 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.240 of firearm by a felon. Possession of firearm by a 251 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:23.679 convicted felon is one of the most common felony charges. Yes, 252 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.639 but if you don't charge the people who are simply 253 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.159 in possession, then it's not being utilized for all of 254 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:35.440 the deterrence reasons it was intended. In some cases those 255 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.360 charge blah blah blah, and I've so basically they just 256 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:40.320 go through and they're like, Noah, No, it only kind 257 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:42.720 of looks like that because we wrote it in an email, 258 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:50.399 but really in practice, it's it's not that bad. Yeah, 259 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:52.720 let's uh, We'll try to talk to the mayor there, 260 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.360 because frankly, I maybe maybe the mayor and I and 261 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.279 others are the ones that have to get up and 262 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.720 do Berry's face and just be like no, this is 263 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.720 unacceptable because the mayor has an obligation to protect the 264 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:09.639 officers too. That's on the mayor. I understand that he 265 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.759 doesn't control the DA's office, but that's who that's who 266 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.519 they need to advocate for. And maybe he is and 267 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.960 I hope that he is. So anyway, there's your insane, 268 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:20.440 pointless story to start the day. We'll be back. This 269 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.039 is something that not only is creating a more dangerous 270 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:28.360 situation for the residents of Durham, but also the police 271 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:32.799 officers who when you don't prosecute felons in possession of 272 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:37.360 a firearm in a secondary scenario. So basically, if you 273 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.039 didn't hear the story you just got up in an 274 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:44.240 email exchange, it shows a formal or an informal or 275 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.600 how you want to describe, a policy where the charge 276 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:52.000 for felon in possession of a firearm may not be charged. 277 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.720 If they are it is not the firearm is not 278 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.759 being used in the commission of the secondary crime whatever 279 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.440 got him there, even if it's not a crime that 280 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.559 you know, let's say they pulled them over, they thought something, 281 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.319 They're in the normal course of you know, insuring officer safety. 282 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.319 They pat down, they find a firearm. Even if they 283 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.759 don't have a first charge, it doesn't require one. A 284 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.640 primary charge. You can charge possession of a felon with 285 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.359 a firearm, possession of firearm by a felon. And the 286 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.440 office was choosing not to at least in some instances, 287 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.759 basically saying, well, if they didn't use the firearm, they 288 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.119 just had it. Well, that's not good enough because if 289 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.599 they have it, there's obviously a higher likelihood that they're 290 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.400 going to use it, in a higher likelihood because there's 291 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:38.839 a higher you know, there's a higher recidivism rate than 292 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:45.400 there is initial offender rate for felonies like that. So 293 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.200 when you don't charge, you get things like this line 294 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.559 in the article, which is it's an informal I said study. 295 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.799 But it's actually an informal I don't know if it's 296 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:59.240 an intake survey or what. But published in twenty twenty two, 297 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:07.680 an interview of Durham County Detention Center inmates yielded some 298 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.680 interesting results and one of the questions said, why carry 299 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:16.000 a firearm if you're a felon? That's pretty straightforward question. 300 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.319 Why would you make that decision knowing that it's against 301 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:23.079 the law, right and the response was because they said 302 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:27.920 they saw no consequences for carrying it. The criminal justice 303 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:31.680 system is about you can say it's performative. It's also 304 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.960 about punishment. Some people don't like you to say that, 305 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:39.720 but it is. But also it's about deterrence. So many 306 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.079 of the things that we do are about deterrence. So 307 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.759 you don't get things that enter the justice system, they're 308 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:50.720 just enter the zeitgeist. So people understand, like, there's parts 309 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:54.880 of town you don't go and fool around in, right, 310 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.000 because you'll get a much more rapid response, fair or unfair. 311 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.200 That's the reality of it. There are certain towns and 312 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:05.039 counties you don't go to if you live. I remember 313 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:06.680 a call we had with I think it was with 314 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.079 Jamal maybe but it but basically we had a caller 315 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.039 on who was talking about I think it was Goldsboro 316 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.039 and saying, which of the two counties you're gonna go 317 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.480 pull shenanigans in, which which one yarn't? And that's and 318 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:23.160 fell In. And criminals know this stuff, at least criminals 319 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:27.119 that are doing a little bit of due diligence. Absolute lunatics. 320 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.440 But it's not all doom and gloom. This morning we 321 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.160 had a pretty crazy thing here at the station. I 322 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.319 think I can talk about it, you know, since everything 323 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:41.559 was on the up and up. So you know, we 324 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:43.920 have a prize closet where we keep all the prizes, 325 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.079 which is good that it was named prize closet because 326 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.920 then we knew where very high security area. It's got 327 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.680 its own door code and everything. AnyWho, so this morning, 328 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:59.039 going by the price, I hear rustling in the prize 329 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.160 closet this morning. It was going on in there, man, 330 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.480 and I happen to have the door code because you know, 331 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:08.519 I've been here a while. Pop it open. Ross. There 332 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:12.440 was a skier in the prize closet this morning, But 333 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:14.839 did he win like a trip or something? No, no, no, 334 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.119 so yeah, no no no so so apparently he was 335 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.359 skiing I think at like beach or something, got lost, 336 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.240 maybe doing some tree skiing. It was a little hard 337 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:28.039 to follow and boom found himself in our prize closet. 338 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:30.920 He lost his skis though, Yeah, I mean it can happen, 339 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:33.480 stumble in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, and I've done that. 340 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:35.640 I've racked pretty hard on skis and I'm like wearing 341 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.200 my skis and you gotta go dig them out. So 342 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.680 but luckily he found some shoes in there that seemingly 343 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.640 fit him, looked like they were perfect for him. And 344 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.160 you remember how cold it was overnight and how cold 345 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.160 it is this morning. He had had he had stuffed 346 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.680 his coat full of tickets, concert tickets to you know, 347 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.240 for warmth and stuff, and he was still wearing a 348 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.559 ski mask because you know, obviously it's very chilly. 349 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.799 So it actually wasn't that bad last night. But I 350 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.559 heard from my sources that the reason he had to 351 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.039 do the heat thing was because he has like a 352 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:09.240 blood disorder or something like, oh. 353 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.880 Yeah, okay, yeah, so it's very cold. Yeah, well I 354 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.160 would explain why his stuff, all the concert tickets and 355 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.400 free t shirts and his in his jacket and hoodie there. 356 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.720 So yeah, luckily I was able to rescue him this morning. 357 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:25.240 So I look, I think I deserve a word of 358 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.480 some sort, maybe the order of the long Leaf Pine. 359 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:30.400 Maybe I don't know, but I'm just glad we were 360 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.519 able to rescue him from our prize closet with all 361 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.440 the concert tickets stuffed in there. Plus man, I don't 362 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.279 know if he'll ever find his skis or his way 363 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:41.400 back to Beach Mountain. So or wherever he was skiing. 364 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:48.720 But crazy stuff any who, CNN is a joke. Sorry, 365 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.160 I'm I shouldn't be laughing at this story, but it's 366 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:58.960 so crazy. Do you guys remember, do you guys remember 367 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:07.319 CNN rescuing the poor man from uh uh, the Syria. 368 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.359 We talked about this, all right, We talked about this 369 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.960 because remember they went in there and they found they 370 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.200 found some things in this this prison in Syria one. 371 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:19.680 They found subjugated political people. They found evidence of torture. 372 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:24.160 They found a crushing machine. It's like a like a 373 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:28.039 big vice or press where they would literally crush people 374 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.160 to death. They found torture rooms. They found all this. 375 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.599 But what they didn't find CNN, who then showed up 376 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:38.720 on the scene after I guess the prison had been cleared. Oh, 377 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.920 and they found I'm sorry, they also found toddler prison 378 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:47.480 inside the prison, all the horrible stuff. So CNN rolls in. 379 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.200 They're walking around when they got their interpreter and some 380 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.359 security and whatnot, and they go into this cell area 381 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:57.559 and there's a big blanket there and under it they 382 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.559 can see what they think is a person. You saw this, right, 383 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.240 And and they go and the person under the blanket 384 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.440 has their all bug eye and they look like a 385 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:10.200 scared mouse and they're telling via the interpreter that they're 386 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.200 so whatever the name was that he gave and he's 387 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:18.440 a political prisoner, and thank you for rescuing and and 388 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.920 there were some questions like, well didn't they clear the prison? 389 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.119 Why are you in here hiding under a blanket, But 390 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:28.279 you know it in your mind, you're like, maybe this 391 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.440 guy is just so mentally gone from all of the torture, 392 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.799 like he and and and and this guy comes out 393 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:38.359 and in the video there's a female CNN reporter and 394 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.319 he like puts he wraps his arms around her arm 395 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.039 and he's leaning. He's holding on to her like the guys, 396 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.839 you know, like your girl does if it's a little 397 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:49.559 chill and it's like oh cold, eh leans in on 398 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:54.240 you what you love and uh and and they get 399 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.720 him some water and all that, and you're looking at him. 400 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.119 You're like, you know, for a guy who's been tortured 401 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:01.880