Speaker 1: Tuesday. Why is this week grinding on? Glad to have
Speaker 1: you along. I don't know what Ril's up to, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna do this, more power to you.
Speaker 1: I will as as I will criticize, I will also
Speaker 1: say good job when you know on the off chance
Speaker 1: that that happens. And I don't know, like, what was
Speaker 1: the article the other day that Ril wrote that. I
Speaker 1: was just shocked that they wrote, oh it was maybe
Speaker 1: it was Hurricane Helene stuff, and I was just like, finally,
Speaker 1: but this is this is awful.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: This is exactly why whenever there is something that happens,
Speaker 1: there's a gun related and all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: get all you know, this all the same activists that
Speaker 1: pop out of the woodwork. Although, as some folks have noted,
Speaker 1: it's interesting following the Luigi thing, how there we didn't
Speaker 1: like the president didn't call for gun control, or we
Speaker 1: didn't have marches. That's weird, huh. In a ceo literally
Speaker 1: gun down in his back in the back in the
Speaker 1: in the middle of Manhattan, the middle middle of Manhattan,
Speaker 1: didn't have all the gun stuff. That's that's that's weird. Huh. Okay, Anyway,
Speaker 1: but you can't sit there and scream for more laws
Speaker 1: about stuff if you're going to not enforce the other ones.
Speaker 1: And whenever somebody says that, they're like, oh no they are,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, you gotta uh, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta stop it at the thing, or you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that it doesn't get to this point,
Speaker 1: or uh whatever, uh whatever the excuse is. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear any of it. In fact, Ross, will
Speaker 1: you do me a favor here in in about what
Speaker 1: do you think thirty minutes to an hour? Will you
Speaker 1: text the Durham mayor since we now have a relationship
Speaker 1: with the Mayor of Durham and he was we had
Speaker 1: a pretty good conversation the other day. I'm gonna send
Speaker 1: you the story he's I'm sure he's clear of the
Speaker 1: story or it's right. It's right on Ril's front page.
Speaker 1: No Consequences records revealed Durham DA's policy not to prosecute
Speaker 1: gun charges. I would like to, Yeah, let's reach out
Speaker 1: to the Durham mayor. You're a little it's it's early yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know what time he gets up, so we'll
Speaker 1: call it six thirty six forty five on's he had
Speaker 1: a chance to digest this thing, because I have to
Speaker 1: assume he's got some thoughts here. So this is this
Speaker 1: is a this is a bonker story because I guess
Speaker 1: if you're new to North Carolina, you just got here
Speaker 1: today from Estonia. No, No, they have internet because they
Speaker 1: have all those hackers over there. If you just got
Speaker 1: here to day from North Sentinel Island, well one, you're
Speaker 1: probably running around just murdering everyone. But let's say you're not,
Speaker 1: and you just got here and for whatever reason you
Speaker 1: you understand English, Durham's got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: violence and a little bit of a gun problem, all right,
Speaker 1: and they know right there's there's a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not gonna sit here and break down
Speaker 1: all the reasons for it. I just want to break
Speaker 1: down one particular one, and that is this internal email
Speaker 1: is obtained by w r a L investigates through a
Speaker 1: public records request. So they're putting this in email show
Speaker 1: a possible explanation for one factor driving crime. And Durham,
Speaker 1: I will tell you what I think the reason for
Speaker 1: doing this story about it, and I think you're seeing
Speaker 1: it is course correction is course correction, the there is
Speaker 1: even though there nobody will admit it, and it's and
Speaker 1: some will actively deny it. Most most of the folks
Speaker 1: in media right now are realizing they done gone too far.
Speaker 1: And you saw some of it with Biden at the
Speaker 1: debate where they all got shown like how bad he
Speaker 1: really is, which, by the way, how bad is he still? Now?
Speaker 1: This is? This is the thing I don't unerstand. I
Speaker 1: understand he's just a few days away, Like does that
Speaker 1: we still have to have somebody in charge, Like if
Speaker 1: he is non functional, if if he's still not able
Speaker 1: to function, and arguably this has been going on for
Speaker 1: a while, don't you still have an obligation? I hate
Speaker 1: the idea that Harris would be in charge for a
Speaker 1: few days, but like you don't you still have an
Speaker 1: obligation because like, something could happen here in the one
Speaker 1: month between now and the inauguration or slightly over one month.
Speaker 1: That's another story for another day, all right. So I
Speaker 1: think you're seeing course correction on the on on the
Speaker 1: part of the media, where they're having to do softer
Speaker 1: stories or fairer stories, or at least stories that actually
Speaker 1: kind of address this because you could not convince me
Speaker 1: that Ariol would write this story a year ago, even
Speaker 1: if they're staring at the emails. That's my opinion. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I don't think it would be
Speaker 1: a priority, but I'm glad that it is here. So
Speaker 1: in the email obtained through public records, request a policy
Speaker 1: from District Attorney Santana Duberry's office to not prosecute some
Speaker 1: possession of firearm by a felon charges. So let's understand
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. These are folks who are already felons.
Speaker 1: These are folks who then come into contact with law
Speaker 1: enforcement for a variety of reasons, and at the time
Speaker 1: of their arrest or or they're charging. I guess if
Speaker 1: they're not arrested but are on the lamb and they're
Speaker 1: wanting them, they are in possession of a firearm. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they used it. And this is this
Speaker 1: is where seemingly the dividing line is. But simple possession
Speaker 1: of that firearm. So if they go put a guy
Speaker 1: against a car and they're patting them down and they
Speaker 1: come across a handgun and uh, you know it's it's
Speaker 1: Billy Bob's handgun or whatever. And it's it's clearly his handgun,
Speaker 1: and and and he's got a record, then he is
Speaker 1: guilty of possession of a firearm by a felon. It's
Speaker 1: pretty cut and dry. He can tell you that it
Speaker 1: blew into his pants or those aren't his pants, or
Speaker 1: any of the rest, but ultimately it meets the requirements.
Speaker 1: So apparently what the DA's office is doing here is
Speaker 1: they are deciding whether that gun was being used in
Speaker 1: a violent manner or a threatening manner or really came
Speaker 1: into play. So you know it, it sounds like if
Speaker 1: the same scenario, let's let's go traffic stop scenario. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go, there's a traffic stop scenario, and uh, and
Speaker 1: the police have whatever probable cause to get people out
Speaker 1: of the car. Well, they can ask you to get
Speaker 1: out of the car anyway, that's that's the thing. You
Speaker 1: do have to get out. By the way, it's an
Speaker 1: officer safety issues spring court ruling on this thing, but whatever,
Speaker 1: And then give you a quick pat down, right and uh,
Speaker 1: And and you get that easy shoved in your pants
Speaker 1: which are barely supporting its weight, and in that in
Speaker 1: the but you didn't brandish it. You didn't even say anything.
Speaker 1: Those are cases that in the in the email, it
Speaker 1: sounds like the office would not prosecute Now if you
Speaker 1: had brandished the gun, maybe even if you showed it,
Speaker 1: or god forbid, if you fired at somebody, then they
Speaker 1: would seemingly charge people with felon in possession of a firearm.
Speaker 1: That's a really dumb way to do it, because a
Speaker 1: person who is a felon, person who is a felon
Speaker 1: who has even if it's a nonviolent crime, they have
Speaker 1: more incentive because they have more to lose in potentially
Speaker 1: using that firearm, and there is a higher likelihood that
Speaker 1: the reason they have that firearm may be anticipation of
Speaker 1: the commission of a crime, right because pre felon has
Speaker 1: a higher recidivism rate or higher probability of committing a
Speaker 1: felony than a non felon. It's just math. So by
Speaker 1: not addressing that, you what you're doing is you're essentially
Speaker 1: telling a felon who wants to run around with a
Speaker 1: firearm in case they see some cool felon stuff they
Speaker 1: want to do, or you know, it's part of a
Speaker 1: pattern of gang behavior where you know they anticipate they
Speaker 1: may have to get into some sort of shootout with
Speaker 1: folks that they're not d incentivized to carry that gun.
Speaker 1: This is what's insane. It literally is increasing or decreasing.
Speaker 1: I should say, officer safety, let me ask, let me
Speaker 1: ask my law enforcement listeners. Who are you more nervous
Speaker 1: of a convicted felon in possession of a gun or
Speaker 1: some random dude in possession of a gun but maybe
Speaker 1: in a manner where they're concealing it but they haven't
Speaker 1: met the requirements there, which is a different charge. Who
Speaker 1: makes you more I know you don't want to you
Speaker 1: don't want surprise guns anywhere, but you can't tell me
Speaker 1: that a felon or felon's not being d incentivized to
Speaker 1: carry a firearm. You want them scared to the point
Speaker 1: where they would never they would never think about it.
Speaker 1: So not only are you making it more dangerous for
Speaker 1: law enforcement who has to encounter these folks because they
Speaker 1: don't feel. In fact, there's a study and that's listed
Speaker 1: in this story. I'll get into the language of what
Speaker 1: was in the email here in a moment, but it
Speaker 1: basically points out that one of the problems in Durham
Speaker 1: is both felons don't feel that it's that it's enough
Speaker 1: of a risk to carry a gun. So they carry
Speaker 1: a gun. That's like, that's not all of them, but
Speaker 1: all but even if you have one, this is this
Speaker 1: is this is absolutely insane. Let's see here, all right,
Speaker 1: So here's here's how this came to light. So basically,
Speaker 1: one of the assistant DA's had some charges. All right,
Speaker 1: So this is actually Durham's lead assistant District Attorney, Elizabeth Ingram.
Speaker 1: He received an email from David Flores, who is a
Speaker 1: senior police officer. Okay, so it's actually the law. So
Speaker 1: the police officers doing their due diligence, like, hey, we
Speaker 1: arrested this guy, he was in possession of a firearm.
Speaker 1: Why is it when we make this arrest and these
Speaker 1: are what we arrest him on, you choose not to
Speaker 1: prosecute this? And the officer wrote, he said, I'm just
Speaker 1: following up to see the reason or if there's anything
Speaker 1: on our end that affected the dismissal. That's good due
Speaker 1: diligence on the part of the police officer. He's not
Speaker 1: accusing him of not prosecuting for any reason other than
Speaker 1: he wants to understand did one of my officers make
Speaker 1: a mistake and how they came to learn that they
Speaker 1: had a gun or any of these. Right, that's a
Speaker 1: police officers do what a police officer should do. And
Speaker 1: probably because well not probably clearly looks because they're wanting
Speaker 1: to make it more safe for officers. So he writes them,
Speaker 1: he's like, did we mess up? Did somebody not read
Speaker 1: them the right? Whatever, and actually got a response that said,
Speaker 1: I don't think that particular case was a good one
Speaker 1: for constructive possession. And this is a quote from it.
Speaker 1: Da Dewberry also has a particular philosophy slash policy when
Speaker 1: it comes to firearm by fellon charges that are not
Speaker 1: accompanied by violence or threats of violence, and keeping with
Speaker 1: that policy, I've dismissed this case. Dude, you're putting that down.
Speaker 1: You're putting that down in writing. So again, if the
Speaker 1: if it may fell in possession of a gun literally
Speaker 1: just being a felon and in possession of the gun
Speaker 1: provably in possession, that's a charge, and that's a charge
Speaker 1: that is used to deincentivize people even if they didn't
Speaker 1: use a gun the first time around, but who have
Speaker 1: a higher likelihood to be you know, in the possibility
Speaker 1: of reoffending or or in the commission of a crime.
Speaker 1: And really this is about let's you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is about people carry guns
Speaker 1: on the regular. Maybe they do it through because it's
Speaker 1: a gang thing, and maybe they just do it because
Speaker 1: the neighborhood they live in, but have this pattern of
Speaker 1: criminal behavior and you want to deincentivize them, and they
Speaker 1: literally won't prosecute as long as they don't point it
Speaker 1: at somebody. So what it tells me if I'm a
Speaker 1: fella with a gun, is I'm gonna hold onto this thing.
Speaker 1: And if they're you know, and maybe I'll lose that gun,
Speaker 1: I'll go get go get me a new one. But
Speaker 1: if I'm not going to get charged for it, why
Speaker 1: would I not the moment I deal with whatever my
Speaker 1: other charges are, go out and run around with a gun.
Speaker 1: And then if the opportunity presents where you know, that
Speaker 1: guy we got beef with is over at the you
Speaker 1: know the sheets, why don't we just blow through there
Speaker 1: or over at Crabtree Mall and get into an old
Speaker 1: cowboy style gunfight. You absolute lunatics, What is happening over there?
Speaker 1: Don't you dare? Don't you dare ask for a single
Speaker 1: gun law if you're not going to enforce one of
Speaker 1: the easiest ones to enforce, Hesek, sorry, hold on uh.
Speaker 1: Carissa Hessek, who's a professor at UNC, said, it's rare
Speaker 1: for the public to find out about these policies. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we should make it not so rare so that
Speaker 1: the public can really understand who who is part of
Speaker 1: keeping them safe, because clearly this is not a practice
Speaker 1: that is that is probably best practices for keeping people safe.
Speaker 1: Esx said, prosecutors have discretion to determine which charges to enforce,
Speaker 1: and then they get it. They get into some scenarios
Speaker 1: like they pull they pull a car over and it
Speaker 1: leads to a search of the vehicle. And while they
Speaker 1: don't find a firearm on any of the four occupants
Speaker 1: in the car, they find a firearm in the car.
Speaker 1: And let's say the two in the backseater felons, the
Speaker 1: two in the front are not, and it's found in
Speaker 1: like the glove box in the front. Can you charge
Speaker 1: the people in the back? Probably not. Can he charge
Speaker 1: the passenger sitting in front of the globbox that they're
Speaker 1: a felon? Now we're in a different thing. How about
Speaker 1: the owner of the vehicle, it's their glovebox. If they're
Speaker 1: a felon, can he charge them? They deal with these
Speaker 1: questions each and every day, all right, So then they
Speaker 1: talk to a couple other ded like Rn Freeman and
Speaker 1: Jeff Neeman who's Orange and Chatham. No do Berry's office
Speaker 1: did decline an interview request. I did release a statement
Speaker 1: said it's not a written or blanket policy and possession
Speaker 1: of firearm by a felon. Possession of firearm by a
Speaker 1: convicted felon is one of the most common felony charges. Yes,
Speaker 1: but if you don't charge the people who are simply
Speaker 1: in possession, then it's not being utilized for all of
Speaker 1: the deterrence reasons it was intended. In some cases those
Speaker 1: charge blah blah blah, and I've so basically they just
Speaker 1: go through and they're like, Noah, No, it only kind
Speaker 1: of looks like that because we wrote it in an email,
Speaker 1: but really in practice, it's it's not that bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's uh, We'll try to talk to the mayor there,
Speaker 1: because frankly, I maybe maybe the mayor and I and
Speaker 1: others are the ones that have to get up and
Speaker 1: do Berry's face and just be like no, this is
Speaker 1: unacceptable because the mayor has an obligation to protect the
Speaker 1: officers too. That's on the mayor. I understand that he
Speaker 1: doesn't control the DA's office, but that's who that's who
Speaker 1: they need to advocate for. And maybe he is and
Speaker 1: I hope that he is. So anyway, there's your insane,
Speaker 1: pointless story to start the day. We'll be back. This
Speaker 1: is something that not only is creating a more dangerous
Speaker 1: situation for the residents of Durham, but also the police
Speaker 1: officers who when you don't prosecute felons in possession of
Speaker 1: a firearm in a secondary scenario. So basically, if you
Speaker 1: didn't hear the story you just got up in an
Speaker 1: email exchange, it shows a formal or an informal or
Speaker 1: how you want to describe, a policy where the charge
Speaker 1: for felon in possession of a firearm may not be charged.
Speaker 1: If they are it is not the firearm is not
Speaker 1: being used in the commission of the secondary crime whatever
Speaker 1: got him there, even if it's not a crime that
Speaker 1: you know, let's say they pulled them over, they thought something,
Speaker 1: They're in the normal course of you know, insuring officer safety.
Speaker 1: They pat down, they find a firearm. Even if they
Speaker 1: don't have a first charge, it doesn't require one. A
Speaker 1: primary charge. You can charge possession of a felon with
Speaker 1: a firearm, possession of firearm by a felon. And the
Speaker 1: office was choosing not to at least in some instances,
Speaker 1: basically saying, well, if they didn't use the firearm, they
Speaker 1: just had it. Well, that's not good enough because if
Speaker 1: they have it, there's obviously a higher likelihood that they're
Speaker 1: going to use it, in a higher likelihood because there's
Speaker 1: a higher you know, there's a higher recidivism rate than
Speaker 1: there is initial offender rate for felonies like that. So
Speaker 1: when you don't charge, you get things like this line
Speaker 1: in the article, which is it's an informal I said study.
Speaker 1: But it's actually an informal I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: an intake survey or what. But published in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: an interview of Durham County Detention Center inmates yielded some
Speaker 1: interesting results and one of the questions said, why carry
Speaker 1: a firearm if you're a felon? That's pretty straightforward question.
Speaker 1: Why would you make that decision knowing that it's against
Speaker 1: the law, right and the response was because they said
Speaker 1: they saw no consequences for carrying it. The criminal justice
Speaker 1: system is about you can say it's performative. It's also
Speaker 1: about punishment. Some people don't like you to say that,
Speaker 1: but it is. But also it's about deterrence. So many
Speaker 1: of the things that we do are about deterrence. So
Speaker 1: you don't get things that enter the justice system, they're
Speaker 1: just enter the zeitgeist. So people understand, like, there's parts
Speaker 1: of town you don't go and fool around in, right,
Speaker 1: because you'll get a much more rapid response, fair or unfair.
Speaker 1: That's the reality of it. There are certain towns and
Speaker 1: counties you don't go to if you live. I remember
Speaker 1: a call we had with I think it was with
Speaker 1: Jamal maybe but it but basically we had a caller
Speaker 1: on who was talking about I think it was Goldsboro
Speaker 1: and saying, which of the two counties you're gonna go
Speaker 1: pull shenanigans in, which which one yarn't? And that's and
Speaker 1: fell In. And criminals know this stuff, at least criminals
Speaker 1: that are doing a little bit of due diligence. Absolute lunatics.
Speaker 1: But it's not all doom and gloom. This morning we
Speaker 1: had a pretty crazy thing here at the station. I
Speaker 1: think I can talk about it, you know, since everything
Speaker 1: was on the up and up. So you know, we
Speaker 1: have a prize closet where we keep all the prizes,
Speaker 1: which is good that it was named prize closet because
Speaker 1: then we knew where very high security area. It's got
Speaker 1: its own door code and everything. AnyWho, so this morning,
Speaker 1: going by the price, I hear rustling in the prize
Speaker 1: closet this morning. It was going on in there, man,
Speaker 1: and I happen to have the door code because you know,
Speaker 1: I've been here a while. Pop it open. Ross. There
Speaker 1: was a skier in the prize closet this morning, But
Speaker 1: did he win like a trip or something? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: so yeah, no no no so so apparently he was
Speaker 1: skiing I think at like beach or something, got lost,
Speaker 1: maybe doing some tree skiing. It was a little hard
Speaker 1: to follow and boom found himself in our prize closet.
Speaker 1: He lost his skis though, Yeah, I mean it can happen,
Speaker 1: stumble in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, and I've done that.
Speaker 1: I've racked pretty hard on skis and I'm like wearing
Speaker 1: my skis and you gotta go dig them out. So
Speaker 1: but luckily he found some shoes in there that seemingly
Speaker 1: fit him, looked like they were perfect for him. And
Speaker 1: you remember how cold it was overnight and how cold
Speaker 1: it is this morning. He had had he had stuffed
Speaker 1: his coat full of tickets, concert tickets to you know,
Speaker 1: for warmth and stuff, and he was still wearing a
Speaker 1: ski mask because you know, obviously it's very chilly.
Speaker 3: So it actually wasn't that bad last night. But I
Speaker 3: heard from my sources that the reason he had to
Speaker 3: do the heat thing was because he has like a
Speaker 3: blood disorder or something like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, so it's very cold. Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: would explain why his stuff, all the concert tickets and
Speaker 1: free t shirts and his in his jacket and hoodie there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, luckily I was able to rescue him this morning.
Speaker 1: So I look, I think I deserve a word of
Speaker 1: some sort, maybe the order of the long Leaf Pine.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but I'm just glad we were
Speaker 1: able to rescue him from our prize closet with all
Speaker 1: the concert tickets stuffed in there. Plus man, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever find his skis or his way
Speaker 1: back to Beach Mountain. So or wherever he was skiing.
Speaker 1: But crazy stuff any who, CNN is a joke. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm I shouldn't be laughing at this story, but it's
Speaker 1: so crazy. Do you guys remember, do you guys remember
Speaker 1: CNN rescuing the poor man from uh uh, the Syria.
Speaker 1: We talked about this, all right, We talked about this
Speaker 1: because remember they went in there and they found they
Speaker 1: found some things in this this prison in Syria one.
Speaker 1: They found subjugated political people. They found evidence of torture.
Speaker 1: They found a crushing machine. It's like a like a
Speaker 1: big vice or press where they would literally crush people
Speaker 1: to death. They found torture rooms. They found all this.
Speaker 1: But what they didn't find CNN, who then showed up
Speaker 1: on the scene after I guess the prison had been cleared. Oh,
Speaker 1: and they found I'm sorry, they also found toddler prison
Speaker 1: inside the prison, all the horrible stuff. So CNN rolls in.
Speaker 1: They're walking around when they got their interpreter and some
Speaker 1: security and whatnot, and they go into this cell area
Speaker 1: and there's a big blanket there and under it they
Speaker 1: can see what they think is a person. You saw this, right,
Speaker 1: And and they go and the person under the blanket
Speaker 1: has their all bug eye and they look like a
Speaker 1: scared mouse and they're telling via the interpreter that they're
Speaker 1: so whatever the name was that he gave and he's
Speaker 1: a political prisoner, and thank you for rescuing and and
Speaker 1: there were some questions like, well didn't they clear the prison?
Speaker 1: Why are you in here hiding under a blanket, But
Speaker 1: you know it in your mind, you're like, maybe this
Speaker 1: guy is just so mentally gone from all of the torture,
Speaker 1: like he and and and and this guy comes out
Speaker 1: and in the video there's a female CNN reporter and
Speaker 1: he like puts he wraps his arms around her arm
Speaker 1: and he's leaning. He's holding on to her like the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, like your girl does if it's a little
Speaker 1: chill and it's like oh cold, eh leans in on
Speaker 1: you what you love and uh and and they get
Speaker 1: him some water and all that, and you're looking at him.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, for a guy who's been tortured
Speaker 1: for all this time, you're uh, you're taking it. Well,
Speaker 1: how nice your nails are? You're freshly shorn beard, Like
Speaker 1: I see, I assume we're gonna look like Rip van
Speaker 1: Winkle based on what she just told us. But still
Speaker 1: and then CNN goes on They're like, this is the
Speaker 1: most powerful journalism we've ever done. This is the most
Speaker 1: this is great. Well you have witnessed. Here is one
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read. I'm gonna this is a quote from
Speaker 1: the reporter Clarissa Ward. This is one of the most
Speaker 1: extraordinary moments I've ever witnessed. By the way, there's also
Speaker 1: video of a Ward because now they're just clowning on
Speaker 1: this woman of where she was out and she saw
Speaker 1: the iron dome working but thought she was under a
Speaker 1: missile barrage. So she like dives into a ditch and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you just see like some Israeli
Speaker 1: people walking to go to the store and stuff. It's
Speaker 1: pretty funny looking at her, like what is this lady?
Speaker 1: Do a light of that ditch? Like that a loon man?
Speaker 1: Oh but anyway, Ward said quote, it's one of the
Speaker 1: most extraordinary moments I've ever witnessed in my twenty years
Speaker 1: of reporting. Well, there's a there's an update. There's an update.
Speaker 1: The name given was Adele Gerbel, which I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're gonna give a fake name, Ross, do you
Speaker 1: go with Gerbel. You don't go with Gurbel. You don't
Speaker 1: go with Gerbil right, not in not in that part
Speaker 1: of the world anyway, claim to have been arrested by
Speaker 1: government authorities three months earlier and had had no idea
Speaker 1: the Assaud regime collapsed, and then very quickly they were
Speaker 1: comparing this dude to those Japanese fighters on the island
Speaker 1: who didn't know the war was over. However, again, there
Speaker 1: were no signs of torture, well groomed, physically healthy. It
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like someone who'd been stuck in a
Speaker 1: hole for ninety days and then, you know, tortured again.
Speaker 1: Most people aren't going to not everyone's going to question
Speaker 1: that because of the Atroth the others, like when they
Speaker 1: literally had toddlers in there and they had a machine
Speaker 1: to crush people. It's not a hard stretcher. You throw
Speaker 1: guy on in a hole for ninety days randomly torture them.
Speaker 1: The problem was all of this stuff started to stack up,
Speaker 1: and so folks to say, hey, why don't we do
Speaker 1: some simple research. Well they did. Then they found out
Speaker 1: he is there is no Adele Gerbel, or if there is,
Speaker 1: he's not it. Instead, this guy is known his name
Speaker 1: is Abu Hamza, which is actually kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: Abu Hamza is somebody who is mentioned in Zero Dark thirty.
Speaker 1: His real name, though, is actually kind of a funny.
Speaker 1: One hold on, let me, I want to get full
Speaker 1: one here because I just got the last one.
Speaker 2: Do you.
Speaker 1: Where is the damn real name of this guy? Salama
Speaker 1: Muhamma Salama, Mohamma Salama, Mahama Salama. Well, what the hell?
Speaker 1: So who is this dude? Really? Well, he was actually
Speaker 1: a torturer and an enforcer for a sad He was
Speaker 1: the fingernail puller, he was the crusher. Dude. He was
Speaker 1: so like, now there's this sin. I don't know why
Speaker 1: he's still in there. Maybe he's looking for his favorite pliers,
Speaker 1: like the whole thing is weird. Or maybe he thought,
Speaker 1: I'm in this prison, everybody else left. If I pretend
Speaker 1: to be a prisoner, maybe when I walk outside, they
Speaker 1: won't put a stick in my button kill me. So
Speaker 1: he decided he would hide under this blanket and pretend
Speaker 1: to be somebody else. So in his and now the
Speaker 1: question is why is he in the prison. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. He was actually imprisoned kind of see, he
Speaker 1: got in trouble because in addition to torturing dissidents who
Speaker 1: came through normally right of Assad's political enemies, he had
Speaker 1: some side hustles. And the side hustles were he would
Speaker 1: work with some other corrupt individuals to go out and
Speaker 1: accuse people of essentially, you know, try and overthrow the
Speaker 1: regime or other crimes, and bring him in. They torture
Speaker 1: them and then they would extort them, so they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: we mocked up this thing, so now you're part of
Speaker 1: the rebel whatever, and we pulled all your fingernails out,
Speaker 1: and how about we stopped doing this and you give
Speaker 1: us a bunch of money and then we get rid
Speaker 1: of the charges. So he was doing this and he
Speaker 1: wasn't sharing the proceeds. That's how he came into came
Speaker 1: into having a beef with his employer. I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: So he would work at security checkpoints. They would they
Speaker 1: would extort residents to becoming informants. They would also just
Speaker 1: shake them down for money. During the Syrian Civil War
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, he would go around just in killing civilians
Speaker 1: and like, hey, you want me to stop killing your family,
Speaker 1: give me money, and then create these bogus like he
Speaker 1: is verifiably because we have a folder on him, in
Speaker 1: the opinion of the US government, one of the worst
Speaker 1: people over there. And he was hugging the CNN chick.
Speaker 1: But and she shared a water bottle with him too,
Speaker 1: so he had been in there for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: It sounds like because whoever his commanding officer was, he
Speaker 1: wasn't kicking him part of the pribes. So it's just
Speaker 1: corruption up and down. Man. But yeah, they didn't do
Speaker 1: any due diligence. They didn't do anything to even confirm
Speaker 1: this guy's identity because the story was too good. In fact,
Speaker 1: following what you saw, they then got wet and got
Speaker 1: him a meal. I also love the audacity of this
Speaker 1: dude to be like, you go buy me dinner too,
Speaker 1: that's great. I wonder if he flirted with the CNN
Speaker 1: reporter again. The whole thing follows Ward's work last year,
Speaker 1: where she's accused of staging a report near the Israeli
Speaker 1: guys of border, showing her and her cruise hiding in
Speaker 1: a ditch amid a barrage of rocket strikes. However, however,
Speaker 1: you then see in the in the longer video and
Speaker 1: the raw video, they're hiding in the ditch and then
Speaker 1: just the evid Israeli's just walking to go do stuff? Man,
Speaker 1: yoh got it?
Speaker 2: Run?
Speaker 1: Do we need milk to the store? Why is that
Speaker 1: lady laying in the ditch? So absolute clowns all day,
Speaker 1: every day and twice on Sunday man oh Man six
Speaker 1: forty nine. Hang on, this is honestly, this is so
Speaker 1: on brand. I don't even know what to do about it.
Speaker 1: But it also just makes me so angry because and
Speaker 1: I know I sound like a broken record. I don't
Speaker 1: sit here and mock Durham or any other place that
Speaker 1: deals with crime if they're actively trying to do something
Speaker 1: about it. And it takes the community, but it really
Speaker 1: takes people in position of power. And so we had
Speaker 1: a conversation with the Mayor of Durham. I did the
Speaker 1: shot spotter stuff, which you seemed to be a fan of.
Speaker 1: I think that that's probably a good thing and to
Speaker 1: have then other folks in this city decide that it's
Speaker 1: not a good thing because it showed too many gunshots
Speaker 1: in neighborhoods that were they didn't like it showing is
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy talk. And so when you
Speaker 1: couple that with this story that ri e l Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, Wril did this morning where they have some
Speaker 1: emails and the emails are between a a police officer
Speaker 1: in Durham and a member of the DA's office that
Speaker 1: DA Dooonberry has and basically they had made an arrest
Speaker 1: and as part of the arrest, the individual was a
Speaker 1: felon who had a firearm and so that was included
Speaker 1: in the list of charges there and it got thrown out.
Speaker 1: And so now you have a member of the Durham
Speaker 1: police who's like, did we do something wrong? Did we
Speaker 1: violate something legally where you can't do the charge because
Speaker 1: we don't see it on here. And it was explained
Speaker 1: in email that there is a policy you call it
Speaker 1: an informal policy, but still a policy. If I read
Speaker 1: the words that you wrote quote, I don't think that
Speaker 1: particular case was a good one for constructive possession. DA
Speaker 1: Dewberry also has a particular philosophy slash policy when it
Speaker 1: comes to firearm by fellon charges that are not accompanied
Speaker 1: by island so understand or threats of violence. So basically,
Speaker 1: if it was a traffic stop, they had some other
Speaker 1: reason to come in contact with this person and give
Speaker 1: them a pat down or a full search, or they
Speaker 1: were being placed under arrest. Therefore, now that everything's getting searched,
Speaker 1: and they found that they found the gun, if the
Speaker 1: gun wasn't threatened, brandished, utilized, then apparently the informal policy
Speaker 1: was not to charge that person. But the reason you
Speaker 1: charge them is to terrence. And in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: they were doing some research into various various crimes and
Speaker 1: why people participate, what drove them to it at the
Speaker 1: Durham jail and they asked people who were literally being
Speaker 1: charged with this or not charged with this, well, why
Speaker 1: would you? Why would you? Why would you be in
Speaker 1: possession of a firearm if you're a felling And the
Speaker 1: answer that was given to the researchers was there's no consequences. Well,
Speaker 1: why have the law if you're not going to use
Speaker 1: it as deterrence and simply as an up charge. You're
Speaker 1: only using half of it. So to have this literally
Speaker 1: put in writing is bonkers man, and is absolutely contributing.
Speaker 1: You can't convince me otherwise to any issues that you
Speaker 1: may have Endurham, as it would in any community where
Speaker 1: you chose not to enforce the laws, and then have
Speaker 1: the audacity, as Newberry has, to advocate on behalf of
Speaker 1: more gun laws. It's so counterintuitive. I just can't. And
Speaker 1: it creates a more dangerous situation for the public, and
Speaker 1: it creates a more dangerous work environment for law enforcement
Speaker 1: because if people who are who are already felons don't
Speaker 1: feel deincentivized to carry a firearm, well there may be
Speaker 1: a hundred reasons why they're going to have a higher
Speaker 1: probability of recidivism in some way, shape or form, especially
Speaker 1: if it's gang related, which too often is the problem
Speaker 1: in Durham. So they're carrying that firearm. It's not that
Speaker 1: they have it, but they don't intend to use it.
Speaker 1: They just haven't had an opportunity to use it yet
Speaker 1: or a need. So as long as they're still willing
Speaker 1: to carry it around, the option is there. And if
Speaker 1: the options there, bullets could be fired, and bullets could
Speaker 1: be fired, kids could be hit. Somebody just run into
Speaker 1: the store could be hit. I mean, I don't lose
Speaker 1: a lot of sweet sleep if one gangbanger wants to
Speaker 1: shoot another one, I don't like it. But that's that
Speaker 1: is that that whole thing is just nuts. So that's
Speaker 1: that's number one too. The CNN story with the prisoner
Speaker 1: they rescued. They're in that prison in Syria where the
Speaker 1: guys hiding under the blanket, and they're like, this is
Speaker 1: the most powerful, and it was everywhere like this is
Speaker 1: why we journalism. I saw a bunch of that too,
Speaker 1: This is why we do what we do. This is
Speaker 1: why we go out and do all these things. And
Speaker 1: then they and then everyone's like, I don't know that
Speaker 1: is I've never tortured a guy for ninety days to
Speaker 1: see what he looks like. But it didn't look It
Speaker 1: looks pretty good, looks like he's holding up well under it.
Speaker 1: And then you find out that he is the torturer.
Speaker 1: He just the problem was he was torturing people for
Speaker 1: money too, and he wasn't kicking back the buddy to
Speaker 1: his superiors because it's just, you know, it's just corruption
Speaker 1: through and through. So that's why he was in a
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. And CNN was giving him water
Speaker 1: and they bought him dinner and probably cuddled, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just the the whole thing, man. And then and then
Speaker 1: we have this right now, Holy cow, all right, ros
Speaker 1: I don't have CNN on in front of me. But
Speaker 1: so what do they do? What did they just liberate?
Speaker 1: They're live now, they found the pit of despair? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, well how would you? I mean, what a
Speaker 1: name right there? That should be a big tip off.
Speaker 1: But they've pulled somebody out of the pit of dispapp
Speaker 1: Oh thank god? Yeah? Is it a guy? He's wearing
Speaker 1: like a kind of an all black pirate outfit. No,
Speaker 1: he's very pale, but he has six fingers on his
Speaker 1: one hand. Oh my god, can you imagine? Can you
Speaker 1: imagine you're in like one of those fingernail factories and
Speaker 1: you like, you know, where they torture you and they
Speaker 1: pull to get the little pliers and then but you
Speaker 1: have eleven fingers, so it goes on longer for you.
Speaker 1: This poor guy, Oh my gosh, is he saying anything?
Speaker 1: Say anything?
Speaker 3: They're not reporting. They're running away from somebody that's in
Speaker 3: fire with a holocaust cloak.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's giant. Guy is huge. Yeah, yeah, well we'll
Speaker 1: stay on top of this story. But yeah, man, this sounds, uh,
Speaker 1: that sounds pretty bad. So and I understood too. They
Speaker 1: there was actually a Spaniard who was coming in. There
Speaker 1: is trying to do harm to this dude literally when
Speaker 1: they found him, so they had to mitigate that. I
Speaker 1: know he's been deported, Oh he has okay, all right
Speaker 1: to his dad. He's back to his father's house, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. I'm sure that they'll be a nice home
Speaker 1: coming there. What the hell are we doing? Jamal? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: I am shocked that Jamal would call in this morning.
Speaker 1: But Jamal, what's up? Man? What do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 2: Hey, case you know I live here in Durham. And
Speaker 2: she said, kind of dump in the whole wide world.
Speaker 2: I love her, And how was she's doing to kill everybody?
Speaker 2: Being dumb? But Casey, I'm gonna say this, what she's doing,
Speaker 2: she's going she's purposely being hippocrital because she's with that
Speaker 2: di that d e. I crap. I'm one of those
Speaker 2: people who do believe that after a certain amount of years,
Speaker 2: if a fella has proved he's not been in any trouble,
Speaker 2: same way we're voting and stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 2: he should be able to get his sack. And a
Speaker 2: man man writes back for his home and just for
Speaker 2: his home, and that's it to the finished home but
Speaker 2: what she is doing is putting people in Durham on rich.
Speaker 2: You see all the time you get these young boys
Speaker 2: out here with guns. They don't then that's true. They
Speaker 2: don't fear being rock up. They act that when you
Speaker 2: go to a store here in Durham, there's nothing to
Speaker 2: see him out there fighting and somebody brandishes a firearm
Speaker 2: and you're like, I know he's too young to have one,
Speaker 2: but he does. That's why so many people try to
Speaker 2: avoid it. And and we was mentioned earlier. I said,
Speaker 2: it's Rocky Mount because I'm from Rocky Mount and Rocky Mount.
Speaker 2: You don't, Yeah, it was Rocky Mount and Rocky Mount.
Speaker 2: You don't do a crime in Nash County because it's
Speaker 2: literally Rocky Mount is split by the railroad tracks. You
Speaker 2: better not do a crime in Nash County. If you
Speaker 2: do something stupid, you better doing an Edgecombe. Why because
Speaker 2: there's some kind of as we more your democratic stronghold,
Speaker 2: your DEI and they, oh, we had to understand what
Speaker 2: did slavery have to do with you being committing your
Speaker 2: crime robbing old ladies who are happening to be black
Speaker 2: and shooting One of the former NBACT men was the
Speaker 2: first black business owner in Rocky Mount who was mugged
Speaker 2: and robbed by young black men, and they got a
Speaker 2: shorter sentence. That actually happened in Rocky Mount the man
Speaker 2: who worked, so that would happened when the da DA
Speaker 2: let them go and give them shorter sentences. But in
Speaker 2: Nash County it's a different story. They're gonna hook you up.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be a found.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's the problem, Jamal. This is an elected position.
Speaker 1: So well, you may live in Durham, and the fact
Speaker 1: is that the majority of the residents in the county
Speaker 1: in which you reside, I think that this war is correct,
Speaker 1: is doing is doing the right?
Speaker 2: Okay, and Casey, let me ask you this. And this
Speaker 2: is the part that gets me. In the nineteen fifties
Speaker 2: and sixties, you had, you know, everybody walked ran around,
Speaker 2: oh this DA or you couldn't trial this person here
Speaker 2: in this county because oh they won't, they won't convict them.
Speaker 2: They start taking it outside the county when and they
Speaker 2: start declaring these counties, you know, or so racially biased
Speaker 2: that they couldn't that they eventually changed. Durham should have
Speaker 2: been part of that. And if we had an attorney general.
Speaker 2: We've had Roy Cooper, who should have locked that girl
Speaker 2: up for that lite she told them a duke of
Speaker 2: clar case that passed. Then you had Judge Josh Stein.
Speaker 2: Absolutely no, good rich boy. Won't lock her up for
Speaker 2: for allowing this stuff because eventually she's continually allowed and
Speaker 2: you can charge her with either accessory before the fact
Speaker 2: or after the fact something. The least put handcuffs on
Speaker 2: and show her you're not playing with. How much crime
Speaker 2: is in Durham. It's really really bad. And people can say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's some good points.
Speaker 1: I will say this. Let me say this just because
Speaker 1: I want to get a little bit concise here, because
Speaker 1: I got to have to go to break here pretty quick.
Speaker 1: But there are instances where the Feds have come in
Speaker 1: and to municipalities, and I don't know that the exact
Speaker 1: legal mechanism, but it is legal. In fact, I saw
Speaker 1: somebody commenting on Twitter. I didn't realize Richmond was one
Speaker 1: of these cities. But apparently in Richmond they ended up
Speaker 1: having to carry some charges like the firearm possession charge
Speaker 1: and start prosecuting it at the federal level, which I'm
Speaker 1: slightly uncomfortable with. Just in the sense. I don't like
Speaker 1: the FEDS having any more purview on stuff, but they
Speaker 1: found a mechanism there where they bypassed local prosecutors and said, look,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to charge them, and you have
Speaker 1: this expanding program that we're going to charge them, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe something with it. Maybe the Trump
Speaker 1: administration needs to look at some of these municipalities and
Speaker 1: if that is something that is legal and tested, then
Speaker 1: maybe that should be a priority within the DOJ. I
Speaker 1: think that that's one of those things where he could
Speaker 1: probably make some difference right away.
Speaker 2: I think it says really bad about my community. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell the truth. You've got all these black.
Speaker 4: Kids being shoped on, children being shot, people being shot,
Speaker 4: and just because somebody wants to talk on to the past,
Speaker 4: like say Tan of Dolinggretine literally ran on that crap
Speaker 4: putting equity in the judiciary system. Brag bodies are problem
Speaker 4: up and hearing Durham, but black folk a latent. So
Speaker 4: now we have to ask a question, is the problem
Speaker 4: really hurt or it's the problem to voters.
Speaker 1: That's what I just said. That's why I said, Jamal,
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by the voters who in the majority of
Speaker 1: which disagree with you and are are quite content with
Speaker 1: this type of behavior, even if they got a duck
Speaker 1: a few rounds every now and then. And that's what
Speaker 1: that's what's crazy to me. But the you know, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons why prosecutors and whether it's politics,
Speaker 1: which thank you for the colle jamal, which it clearly
Speaker 1: looks like here, or whether it's corruption within a department,
Speaker 1: uh or you know, or a DA's office or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. There are a lot of reasons where sometimes
Speaker 1: an adult has to find themselves in the room. And
Speaker 1: I don't again, I get very nervous about the DOJ
Speaker 1: and the fed's being able to expand stuff. But if
Speaker 1: if there is a and I'm assuming it's some sort
Speaker 1: of ATF type of charge because it seems to deal
Speaker 1: with that. If if that is a mechanism that's out there,
Speaker 1: maybe the Trump deal may Department of Justice owes it
Speaker 1: to residents of these cities that are haunted by these
Speaker 1: das who choose to make decisions like this and thus
Speaker 1: create a more dangerous environment for citizens. And I don't
Speaker 1: know that, I don't know that I'm fully comfortable comfortable
Speaker 1: saying that that is the answer because of the weaponization
Speaker 1: we've seen within the DJ And what does it look
Speaker 1: like once Trump's out and I don't know, maybe some
Speaker 1: lunatics in there, who knows, But it don't look good
Speaker 1: and it's not a positive for the citizens, and as
Speaker 1: sure as hell, not a positive for the police officers
Speaker 1: who then are twofold one now work in a more
Speaker 1: dangerous environment, and two go out and do their job,
Speaker 1: do the asked correctly, the investigation correctly, providing unchallengeable evidence
Speaker 1: for the DA's office to utilize, and prosecutions then get
Speaker 1: ignored because now you're a cop and you're sitting there like, why,
Speaker 1: why the hell? Why am I doing all this paperwork?
Speaker 1: Why am I doing all this stuff? If nothing's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: I got better stuff to do, Like literally, there's other
Speaker 1: crime I could go handle. And this is where you
Speaker 1: find yourself, all right, eight eight eight nine three four
Speaker 1: seven eight seven four Coming up, We got a legal question.
Speaker 1: I'll get to that next. Hang on. If let's say
Speaker 1: you're a stripper at a vegan strip club in Portland,
Speaker 1: which is this is a real thing. We've actually talked
Speaker 1: about this club but you decide you're gonna stab somebody,
Speaker 1: Can you still work as a vegan stripper if you
Speaker 1: stab meat? Essentially? I think so, as long as you
Speaker 1: don't eat the client or the customer. Well, in this
Speaker 1: case it was the DJ. The stripper is Magis the
Speaker 1: DJ screwter music up or something.
Speaker 4: At me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: O nine inch nails again? I want to what like
Speaker 1: an animal? Okay, I'm sure you're aware. Obviously you had
Speaker 1: a very tragic situation where it's alleged that a young
Speaker 1: woman I saw some folks were banging around with the
Speaker 1: shooter was transgender. I don't see anything to confirm that.
Speaker 1: I did read the It's about a six page and
Speaker 1: it's purported to be her writings. I guess I don't
Speaker 1: see a lot to dispute that, and it reads like
Speaker 1: a lot of it reads very similar to, you know,
Speaker 1: the typical ty. I hate my parents. I don't think
Speaker 1: they love me. They're mean to me. My dad, she said,
Speaker 1: her dad smokes too much.
Speaker 2: Pot.
Speaker 1: I can't find one to love me. Why does everyone
Speaker 1: mean to me? I really like uh, Serbian terrorists for
Speaker 1: some reason? What was some other stuff she was lamented?
Speaker 1: There's the Columbine worship, I mean, just all the package
Speaker 1: deal stuff. But yeah, yeah, I mean did it happen
Speaker 1: we were, you know, Ross and I were talking. Columbine
Speaker 1: was right after we graduated high school. Would have been
Speaker 1: a few years, although my senior year of school of
Speaker 1: high school actually what is considered one of the first
Speaker 1: school shootings, her first higher profile ones, actually happened up
Speaker 1: in Sheridan, Wyoming for somebody. Somebody walked on was it
Speaker 1: Trinity or which of the two shared it? I can't
Speaker 1: remember which of the high schools it was. That's how
Speaker 1: long it's been. Somebody walked on essentially to the ball
Speaker 1: field and it's lunch, so you know a lot of
Speaker 1: students are out there screwing around, throwing the football, just
Speaker 1: commiserating and open fire. And it wasn't obviously as deadly
Speaker 1: as Columbine, but yeah, it really is one of those
Speaker 1: things you're like, holy crap, somebody would have the audacity
Speaker 1: to walk into school and do that. And then Columbine
Speaker 1: really kicked it off then and and and then you
Speaker 1: get the lionizing of these individuals. Same stuff you're seeing
Speaker 1: with the uh, you know, the alleged CEO assassin did
Speaker 1: you see, uh, do you see all the people going
Speaker 1: out and getting tattoos of him permanently inking their body
Speaker 1: with Luigi Homages. Just absolute lunacy, which is then you
Speaker 1: know purport uh, propelled rather by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Warren and Eric Swallwell and others that are going out
Speaker 1: there and going, yeah, you shouldn't murder, but but you
Speaker 1: know with a butt carrying a lot of weight man.
Speaker 1: And of course people like that woman down in Florida
Speaker 1: going oh, okay, well this is how you handle health
Speaker 1: insurance companies. And then you find out that one of
Speaker 1: the craziest twists, and I can't remember if we mentioned it,
Speaker 1: this dude not only was not a United Health customer,
Speaker 1: but there seems seems to be pretty good evidence that
Speaker 1: he had he received a pretty extent of back surgery
Speaker 1: which was covered by whoever's insure was I can't I
Speaker 1: don't have it in front of me. But and and
Speaker 1: also seem to help like what's going on with that man?
Speaker 1: So when I see the story out of Madison where
Speaker 1: you have the shooter kills two and then themselves, what
Speaker 1: was the make sure I have the total on injuries
Speaker 1: and everything right here? But goes in and sides to
Speaker 1: do this, and then you look at it and it's like, see,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's some of the gripes that
Speaker 1: like any teenager has just going to like, ah, I
Speaker 1: parents hate me. And usually they don't hate you. They
Speaker 1: just you know, you guys aren't vibing, or you're you're
Speaker 1: getting into stuff, or maybe you hate them and they
Speaker 1: don't how to deal with it, right, Like, it's usually
Speaker 1: not as bad as you think. Sometimes it is, Usually
Speaker 1: it's not. And and now it alterned and yeah, I
Speaker 1: I recognize that the song Jeremy is a product of
Speaker 1: my formative years. And obviously there was a specific storyline
Speaker 1: in that song. If you're not familiar with it, it's
Speaker 1: about the school shooting stuff. And I recognize that, but
Speaker 1: like we didn't emulate it, you know, we didn't go, ah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a good idea. And then boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: It was only after you know, Columbine, which I never
Speaker 1: saw that they were inspired by that that this thing
Speaker 1: really started to ramp up. And that's why you get manifestos.
Speaker 1: You'd get these writings, and you'd get these red flags
Speaker 1: and a lot of cases would be ignored, like down
Speaker 1: in Parkland where the guy had what thirty some interactions
Speaker 1: with that Sheriff's department and they didn't do anything. So
Speaker 1: I don't know all that, but I do know it's
Speaker 1: the second Christian school that was shot up here in
Speaker 1: what a month. Remember that one in California where the
Speaker 1: guy went in and whacked those kindergarteners. Is that was
Speaker 1: a that was I believe that was a Christian school.
Speaker 1: I remember that motivation that was that was Palestine, the
Speaker 1: whole Palestinian thing, and that really how quickly that story died.
Speaker 1: Absolute absolute tragedy's going on out there. Here's the Madison
Speaker 1: Police chief.
Speaker 5: The Madison Police Department responded to a mass shooting at
Speaker 5: the Abundant Life Christian School today. Officers were dispatched to
Speaker 5: the school, which is located on the city's east side,
Speaker 5: at ten fifty seven a m. They arrived to find
Speaker 5: multiple people suffering from gunshot wounds. Three people, including the
Speaker 5: shooter or dead. The shooter has now been identified as
Speaker 5: fifteen year old Natalie Rupp Now who went by the
Speaker 5: name Samantha. She was a student at the school, and
Speaker 5: evidence suggests she died from a self in afflicted gunshot won.
Speaker 5: The official call of death will be released by the
Speaker 5: Dane County Medical Examiner penning the conclusion of their examination.
Speaker 5: She was pronounced deceased while in transport to a local hospital.
Speaker 1: Let me ask, so, let me ask a question of
Speaker 1: those of you, and I probably for those of you
Speaker 1: over the age of I don't know forty, Okay, just
Speaker 1: because now you're in that Columbine timeline, all right, could
Speaker 1: you fathom a fifteen year old girl coming to your school,
Speaker 1: one of your classmates and shooting it up? Like could
Speaker 1: your brain go, Yeah, No, that's a possibility. I mean,
Speaker 1: not that it's physically possible, but like that never would
Speaker 1: have crossed my mind.
Speaker 2: Ross.
Speaker 1: You grew up in Schenectady, Obviously it was different schools,
Speaker 1: was very rural school. You're more of a city school.
Speaker 1: Would that even have crossed your mind? Even with some
Speaker 1: of the violence that you said was uh, you know
Speaker 1: going on in s connected you at the time. Honestly No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like any fifteen year old student, like I can't even
Speaker 1: remember some of the girls in my class who were
Speaker 1: we'll say out there clearly had some stuff going on.
Speaker 1: And there's there's one girl I don't want to say
Speaker 1: her name. There's one girl in particular immediately thought of
Speaker 1: we're all just like like, she'll cut you man. And
Speaker 1: but but we also knew because it was a small town,
Speaker 1: we knew she had a really rough home life. And
Speaker 1: and years later, I guess it turned out because I
Speaker 1: think they arrested her stepfather for doing some stuff and
Speaker 1: and like but we so we understood that. But even
Speaker 1: with all of that, I never would have crossed my
Speaker 1: mind that she'd come shoot up as school. And I know,
Speaker 1: and will you because you think boys would and girls would, Yes,
Speaker 1: because inherently men are more commit more violent crimes. Like yes, yes,
Speaker 1: a thousand times yes. And we all had access to
Speaker 1: guns in Wyoming, Like we didn't just have action. We
Speaker 1: hadn't been our damn trucks out the parking lot on
Speaker 1: gun racks. You got to clean your gun at lunch.
Speaker 1: Nobody'd say anything. And a lot of guys that go
Speaker 1: hunting in the morning, you literally go hunting before school,
Speaker 1: and then at lunch you may go out and like
Speaker 1: kind of process everything. If you'd never seen anyone butcher
Speaker 1: a deer in a high school parking lot, because I have,
Speaker 1: I've helped. Yes, Yeah, that's the thing man, because now
Speaker 1: it's cold. You just leave them in the back of
Speaker 1: the truck. There you want to go show all your
Speaker 1: friends like what I got ah, want to help me
Speaker 1: address this thing out? Quarter it up? Sure? Absolutely never
Speaker 1: would have crossed my mind. And that is Look, that's
Speaker 1: a horrifying reality now and parents have new concerns and
Speaker 1: students have new concerns, and I'm not unsympathetic to it.
Speaker 1: That's why. And I'm gonna tie this back when I'm
Speaker 1: having to do stories on the same day we're seeing
Speaker 1: something like this, and then I'm having to hear about
Speaker 1: a DA in this case, the Durham DA, who's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna OSCU felons with possession of firearms if
Speaker 1: they weren't actively shooting at the officers. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: this is it may not be exactly how you get there,
Speaker 1: but it's not helping. All right, here to help though,
Speaker 1: raced agic from the weather channel.
Speaker 6: Anything I can get you some snow maybe yeah, well
Speaker 6: maybe maybe where you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so all right you everybody or you want
Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't have anything that's scarybody here we've got
Speaker 6: our best chance of getting rain. Showers will be tomorrow afternoon,
Speaker 6: Tomorrow evening. The coolest days will come in toward the
Speaker 6: upcoming weekend, we'll get a little cold staff to come in.
Speaker 6: It does look like we are going to get milder
Speaker 6: as we get into Christmas week, So yeah, it's kind
Speaker 6: of unusual to get temperatures well into the sixties. That's
Speaker 6: where we'll go today in spotsorythm thick fog, so travel cautiously,
Speaker 6: time patients caution all those things. A partial sunshine otherwise
Speaker 6: today the fog will go away. Dense fog advisory just
Speaker 6: west of the Try, places like Hickory and down near Charlotte.
Speaker 6: So there are areas where the fog is thicker tonight
Speaker 6: near fifty for a low tomorrow mid upper sixties. If
Speaker 6: we got a shot at seventy Tomorrow would be the
Speaker 6: day in the afternoon, some showers into Tomorrow night, and
Speaker 6: there might even be a thunderstorm. Then that cold front
Speaker 6: will go through and slowly getting colder. Thursday, mostly sunny,
Speaker 6: low to mid fifties. Friday low fifties and mostly sunny,
Speaker 6: and the loaw's will go back down into the thirties,
Speaker 6: and the weekend's going to be chili. Probably going to
Speaker 6: see some mid forties on Saturday, near forty degrees, Sunday
Speaker 6: lows in the twenties, and same thing on Monday with sunshine.
Speaker 6: But then we'll start warming up after that. Quick shot
Speaker 6: at some of the playoff games, I think the one
Speaker 6: that may have the most impact maybe the cold in
Speaker 6: a Happy Valley where it's going to be chilly this
Speaker 6: weekend for Penn State. So it's gonna be some cold
Speaker 6: weather there. I think the rest of the games it
Speaker 6: should be actually in pretty decent shape in South Bend.
Speaker 6: There may be some flurries or snow showers and a
Speaker 6: little lot of chili side for that game. But uh,
Speaker 6: it's a lot more exciting games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, good, So we kick off tonight, man, there's
Speaker 1: a well we have a game tonight with Memphis, and
Speaker 1: well I was talking the playoffs, but yeah, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I just mean, like this is it is a great
Speaker 1: time of the year. So yeah, it is, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean every night you got something, right, So except
Speaker 1: for that Clemson Texas, Yeah, except for that one that
Speaker 1: should be you know, yeah, all right, just here's here's
Speaker 1: what you got one job.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You can go root for Clemson all you want, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but here's your job. Just don't make just don't make
Speaker 1: travel suck.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Ross, I'm assuming you're driving down to Ross Is coming
Speaker 1: to your house actually for Christmas? So maybe oh okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so we don't he's gonna he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to hit a little road trip there so and I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of our listeners are as well. So
Speaker 1: we just don't screw that up.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I mean honestly, next week, I don't see
Speaker 6: any big storms and I think the cold air is
Speaker 6: going to retreat.
Speaker 1: That's first kind of shot.
Speaker 3: We're making our way down to Conyers near Atlanta. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: you your media lane for me? The lane drive to
Speaker 3: work in?
Speaker 1: Yeah, clear, the express thank you? All right? No problem? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard you guys have some traffic down those parts.
Speaker 6: Are you coming eighty five?
Speaker 1: Ross? Is he coming down eighty five?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Good, No, He's gone wherever the most BUCkies are along
Speaker 1: the way. You will literally he's gonna drive like this,
Speaker 1: this weird like figure eight thing, and it's all about
Speaker 1: the most BUCkies. So yeah, just I avoid eighty five.
Speaker 1: I know, okay, all right, well appreciate it, thank you, Sirkay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Ross. Do you know how many BUCkies are
Speaker 1: along your path on the way? I bet you do, dude.
Speaker 1: So we kind of sort of went that way before.
Speaker 1: I think it was like two or three. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: and you got to stop at all of them? Right,
Speaker 1: we sure are?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 1: By low you have to yes? Yeah, all right, good, good,
Speaker 1: good good. You don't want to get charged by the
Speaker 1: durham da.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh wait that's you. You won't. All right, thank you, Ray,
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll be right back, hang on. And
Speaker 1: it was right after Trump sat down for that interview
Speaker 1: with Meet the Press, and because I was like, why
Speaker 1: does he do this? It's going to be the same
Speaker 1: questions you'll notice that. And somebody did a side by
Speaker 1: side on all the left wing interviews he's done here,
Speaker 1: and they always ask the same questions. None of it
Speaker 1: is about what he's going to do, Like with from
Speaker 1: an actual substance standpoint, everything is all the attack points, right,
Speaker 1: why'd you say this? What's this? Why this person's evil?
Speaker 1: Why would you nominate them? Why would you associate yourself?
Speaker 1: All the standard stuff? How are you going to deport
Speaker 1: that many people. That at least is touching into a
Speaker 1: little bit of policy, but it's never from a genuine Hey,
Speaker 1: people need to know what it is you're going to do.
Speaker 1: Let's try to dig into that. And I don't understand
Speaker 1: why he sits there. The only theory I had was
Speaker 1: he does it because he likes to tell him they're
Speaker 1: dumb to their face, which he clearly does enjoy that
Speaker 1: part of it, because he does it often. And at
Speaker 1: that point I'm at least comfortable that that was my theory.
Speaker 1: Now I'm one hundred percent con one hundred percent convinced
Speaker 1: for two reasons. One, I saw Stephanie Rule from MSNBC
Speaker 1: yesterday was talking about access and she was telling a panel.
Speaker 1: She was not on MSNBC. She's on some panel and
Speaker 1: it's surrounded by their moonbats, and they got in this
Speaker 1: conversation about how Trump deals with media stuff and how
Speaker 1: they do, and Rule said quote, I called him. She
Speaker 1: has a cell phone number, as do others in her position,
Speaker 1: and so she literally called him to ask for an
Speaker 1: interview not long ago. Now he told her, hell, no,
Speaker 1: you suck, But he picked up the phone and he
Speaker 1: had a conversation she said, it wasn't an impolite conversation.
Speaker 1: She didn't disclose all of this, so he probaly didn't
Speaker 1: tell her she sucks. She said, he said no, But
Speaker 1: the fact was I called him and he picked up
Speaker 1: the phone himself and answered. And so for you know,
Speaker 1: top tier or you know, the top level national journalist,
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon. That's not uncommon at all. And some
Speaker 1: politicians are like that, it's crazy. I have some cell
Speaker 1: phone numbers for some people, that's pretty crazy, and you
Speaker 1: just don't use them unless you need to. And it
Speaker 1: was really, really weird. I had a member of Congress.
Speaker 1: I had a member of Congress back in the day
Speaker 1: who came in for an interview one day, and it
Speaker 1: was right when people really rolled over to iPhones and
Speaker 1: she got an iPhone. She didn't know how to use it, though,
Speaker 1: and so she comes in my producer studio like in
Speaker 1: between in one of the breaks, and she's like, I
Speaker 1: can't figure out how to set up pass where and
Speaker 1: other stuff on this. Can you do that? Do you
Speaker 1: know how to do that? And I'm like yeah, because
Speaker 1: I had the same phone, which is why she was like, ah,
Speaker 1: he knows what's up. So a member of Congress hands
Speaker 1: me their phone. It's open to her contacts and the
Speaker 1: numbers in there, and she's just she leaves it in
Speaker 1: my studio to go do an inn. I'm like, and
Speaker 1: one of them was one of the numbers on there
Speaker 1: because I could see her reasons right because she had
Speaker 1: left it open at that scrat I don't know if
Speaker 1: she was trying to call somebody like that. You know,
Speaker 1: it was all the direct numbers for some really high
Speaker 1: profile people. This is during the Bush administration. Right at
Speaker 1: the end of the Bush administration. They just bonkers, man,
Speaker 1: So like, for a reporter to then have that access
Speaker 1: is we really got to cobble it together. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal. And then she talked about with the Biden
Speaker 1: White House that they have to they have to not
Speaker 1: just send a request, they have to intercept somebody higher
Speaker 1: up the gatekeeping chain of command so that they even
Speaker 1: know the request is going to get considered, which is
Speaker 1: you know, how some of them deal with it. And
Speaker 1: they were booing her because they thought she was saying
Speaker 1: nice things about Trump, but she kind of was. But
Speaker 1: also I'm convinced based on that that Trump gave him
Speaker 1: the number just so we could tell them no to
Speaker 1: their face, and so I think my theory's proven. Thanks
Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. Let me update you on
Speaker 1: one of the stories and I'll try to give the
Speaker 1: most concise rendition of this. So a story out this morning.
Speaker 1: Wril did it, which again kudos. This is journalism, and
Speaker 1: this is journalism that frankly isn't even partisan. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's just not. This is a public safety issue. Some
Speaker 1: email exchanges between members of Durham Law Enforcement and the
Speaker 1: DA's office, and in it in the response from the
Speaker 1: DA's office over a question about a non charge of
Speaker 1: a felon in possession. So the officer had clearly come
Speaker 1: across a felon in possession or at least believed it
Speaker 1: for the purpose of their affidavit and what they were charging,
Speaker 1: and then that wasn't part of the charges and the
Speaker 1: Durham Police officer rep was confused, wanted to make sure,
Speaker 1: and this is good, wanted to make sure that the
Speaker 1: reason wasn't a legal one, like an officer made a
Speaker 1: mistake with a search or randizing some or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And the response was pretty crazy. It's like, no, there's
Speaker 1: just some fell in possession of a firearm charges. We
Speaker 1: don't charge. It's kind of like a policy. The word
Speaker 1: policy was written there that it was written slashed priority
Speaker 1: policy goes priority slash policy, and basically, if you read it,
Speaker 1: it's the DA. The DA's office didn't has a pattern
Speaker 1: of not charging felons in possession of a firearm unless
Speaker 1: the firearm was used in the commission of a new
Speaker 1: crime or if they committed a violent crime, well in
Speaker 1: possession of it. So you know, a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys get busted for pretty small stuff and then it
Speaker 1: amps up with the firearm possession charge because they may
Speaker 1: it made you just a misdemeanor they're facing. But then
Speaker 1: when it comes time to pat them down or book
Speaker 1: them in and they find a gun in the butt,
Speaker 1: then there there you go. You're a felon in possession
Speaker 1: of a firearm, and it is a It is clearly
Speaker 1: a deterrence charge and is effective. It is effective in
Speaker 1: that way. The idea there, you know, there are there
Speaker 1: have been. There are rules that criminals will set for themselves,
Speaker 1: not all of them, some urban dumb where they will
Speaker 1: say things like, yeah, well you don't carry a gun
Speaker 1: inside this particular geographic thing because you're gonna get all
Speaker 1: the charges right, and so they may not do that,
Speaker 1: or they may go and uh rob one town that
Speaker 1: has very lenient policies and ignore another entirely whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And so in Durham they literally quiz people in the
Speaker 1: jail and ask them, why did you think it was
Speaker 1: okay to carry a firearm? And they said, we only
Speaker 1: didn't think there was consequences, and some instances they're right.
Speaker 1: So all you're doing is increasing the probability that when
Speaker 1: they do decide to do something, if they decide to
Speaker 1: do not everyone reoffends, but in and of itself, the
Speaker 1: possession is a reoffense. But if it doesn't amp up
Speaker 1: to something, then fine. But there's a higher probability if
Speaker 1: you're somebody carrying around a gun because you're involved in
Speaker 1: gang stuff for whatever, and you're still living the life
Speaker 1: that eventually you're going to use it. Do you want
Speaker 1: people not to want to carry it? And now you
Speaker 1: have policies that I don't say incentivizes, but makes them
Speaker 1: not worry about it. Now there's a more dangerous environment
Speaker 1: for the public and for law enforcement who has to
Speaker 1: do their job, and frustration by law enforcement who is
Speaker 1: doing their job and trying to make a difference and
Speaker 1: get these guns off the street and get the individuals
Speaker 1: more specifically who would walk around with them off the street.
Speaker 1: And that's it's awful. Now, we reached out to the
Speaker 1: Mayor of Durham. We had a great conversation with the
Speaker 1: mayor here about a month ago, and I had I
Speaker 1: asked Ross to text him this morning and see if
Speaker 1: maybe he would pop on, because look, this is these
Speaker 1: are his officers, these are his police officers who are
Speaker 1: going out and doing things and arguably doing things correctly right,
Speaker 1: and then their work is just getting through by the
Speaker 1: wayside and it creates this more dangerous environment. So he I,
Speaker 1: he's he's got to have an opinion on this. Especially
Speaker 1: I found it very I found it good that a
Speaker 1: lot of the preventive programs that I know are controversial,
Speaker 1: like shot Spotter, he seems to be on the side
Speaker 1: of because I think those are proactive things you need
Speaker 1: to do. And so he should be very upset. Now.
Speaker 1: We texted him this morning and he did text us back.
Speaker 1: What did he say? Because I want to get him
Speaker 1: on the air, and so he did respond to us,
Speaker 1: and uh, I but I also understand maybe he wants
Speaker 1: a moment to talk to somebody. So let me say this,
Speaker 1: because we don't have anything nailed down. Uh, if he
Speaker 1: wants to come on before the end of the show,
Speaker 1: we'll comminate. But also I will I will open up
Speaker 1: any slot that's not like one of our Bellinger slaughter
Speaker 1: or something tomorrow Ross if he wants to come on.
Speaker 1: So the because we don't have any schedule guests right
Speaker 1: tomorrow forgetting correct. And it sounds like he does want
Speaker 1: to talk. Yeah, no, no, no, And that's great. And
Speaker 1: I also understand too, he's got to like because I
Speaker 1: saw the story this morning, so and that's cool. But
Speaker 1: I really want to chat with him, So we'll accommodate
Speaker 1: him in any time slot tomorrow and uh and hopefully
Speaker 1: have a good conversation about it. So happy to do it.
Speaker 1: And and I and I think it's hopeful too that
Speaker 1: even seeing you know, a journalistic outlet that I do
Speaker 1: criticize occasionally on the show, I think this is a
Speaker 1: positive thing because I think it's a not I don't
Speaker 1: think this is a I think this is a bipartisan thing,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it has to be a political thing.
Speaker 1: Even though it's clearly a political thing in the minds
Speaker 1: of policy within the DA's office, and you can't convince
Speaker 1: me otherwise. But I think people on the street go,
Speaker 1: this is that's stupid. I don't, you know, even if
Speaker 1: you think you know they're out there just jailing people
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. You got somebody who's you know, I
Speaker 1: got two felonies on their record, has done multiple stints
Speaker 1: and they're walking around with a gun in your community
Speaker 1: and they and they shouldn't be, and they've shown that
Speaker 1: they're willing to do things they're outside the balance of
Speaker 1: the law. Right you don't, I don't. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be on any side of the aisle to go
Speaker 1: this ain't good man, So all right, well, cool, cool,
Speaker 1: hopefully that comes together. All right. So I mentioned the
Speaker 1: drone thing, and so if I had to pick all
Speaker 1: the different lanes, right, it's there's there's the it's not happening,
Speaker 1: and it's just it started with the media over reporting
Speaker 1: it and people kind of freaking out because they can't
Speaker 1: tell what landing lights on a Grand Caravan look like
Speaker 1: or a bombardier, and and and and then it's snowballs
Speaker 1: into that summer of the shark thing and ultimately find
Speaker 1: out that that then gets private drone owners to send
Speaker 1: their drones up and it just snowballs. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: one theory. Then you got aliens, all right, got to
Speaker 1: throw it in there, gotta throw it in there. You
Speaker 1: got the Iranian mothership theory that it's some sort of
Speaker 1: foreign adversary and it's hush hush. And then there's the
Speaker 1: they're looking for gamma rays because there's a lot snook
Speaker 1: or something, And most theories fit into one of those slots,
Speaker 1: or at least are are closely aligned, unless I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: But that's pretty much what I've seen until I watched
Speaker 1: this clip from the View yesterday, and Whoopee's got herself
Speaker 1: a theory, and it's not one that I had previously considered.
Speaker 1: So allow me to find that fifth rail here, so
Speaker 1: to speak, of theories, and share it with you. Uh,
Speaker 1: tell me what you think of this.
Speaker 7: I think this.
Speaker 1: I think they know what it is. I think they're
Speaker 1: not going to really be able to say it or
Speaker 1: or we're going to get a really hell of a
Speaker 1: big party for New Year's Eve. It's going to just
Speaker 1: something's going to be like a dome over all fifty
Speaker 1: states of these drawn. Well why not? I mean, stranger
Speaker 1: things have happened? What Well, at first I might she's
Speaker 1: being tongue in cheek, but then she goes, oh why
Speaker 1: not so And don't get me wrong. Have you seen
Speaker 1: ross you've seen some of these What they can do
Speaker 1: with a thousand of these drones for light shows? Now,
Speaker 1: did you see the giant squid they had the uh
Speaker 1: they always show them on like from China, the ones
Speaker 1: who yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I love them over in China, man.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy. I mean, it's why. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: like you had all these fireworks that you could kind
Speaker 1: of do stuff with and now it's just now it's
Speaker 1: it's bonkers what they can do.
Speaker 3: Disney has started to incorporate them. They used to have
Speaker 3: this like big like fireworks show.
Speaker 1: Right, well that was the lights. Wasn't that a Disney
Speaker 1: thing for it?
Speaker 3: They used to do Epcot with like fantation stuff where
Speaker 3: the quarterlack music and it used to be fireworks. And
Speaker 3: now they've replaced them completely completely with the kind of
Speaker 3: drones you see in China where like you look up
Speaker 3: in the sky and you're like, that's a dragon.
Speaker 1: In the sky. It's a literal dragon, and it's a
Speaker 1: dragon that can fly at you with relatively a few
Speaker 1: safety issues versus actual pyrotechnics. It's really amazing and and
Speaker 1: just all the programming and the human like all the
Speaker 1: math and the knowledge they had to go in so
Speaker 1: that something like that, so a thousand things can fly
Speaker 1: really really close to each other in perfect harmony. It's
Speaker 1: just really amazing what we can achieve. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's it. If I had to, If I had to
Speaker 1: pick one of those five things, I've like, well, the
Speaker 1: four I laid out and then the one whoopee did
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rank that one under aliens? If right? Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, what do you think
Speaker 1: is more likely aliens?
Speaker 2: Or what?
Speaker 1: Whoope?
Speaker 3: Just like I think I near you see if you
Speaker 3: want to take your sign and you want to go
Speaker 3: right underneath one of the drones to just hold your
Speaker 3: sup and then the blue Beam is gonna come down?
Speaker 1: Oh Project Blue Beam?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 1: What is the party is about to start? I had
Speaker 1: Project Blue Beam way off. I realized it was a
Speaker 1: New Year's thing. Can I go there? What if I
Speaker 1: want to do it? At the top of the Empire
Speaker 1: State building has had a good place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing, and bring your sign and look
Speaker 3: at me right underneath it and the blue beam. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then say beat me up or something, right, and
Speaker 3: then the beam will beat me up or you sure will.
Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, you sure of that? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you're mostly okay, I'll get back. Yeah, let's you know
Speaker 1: what happens there. Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: that less likely than aliens one, because you're you're telling
Speaker 1: me that the government would be coordinating the largest version
Speaker 1: of this thing. Can you imagine the government coordinating that.
Speaker 1: First of all, all the drones would just smash into
Speaker 1: each other, right, I'm assuming and probably murder some people
Speaker 1: on the ground, Like, I don't think it would go well.
Speaker 1: Give me the nerdy guys, you know with they who
Speaker 1: literally they've there's so many drones. They've created like a pit,
Speaker 1: you know, like a ballpicker on like a driving range.
Speaker 1: Some of you will know this. They have that for
Speaker 1: drones so they can go through a field and just
Speaker 1: they don't have to lean down and individually drop them,
Speaker 1: and it also calculates where they should be. It's really
Speaker 1: high tech stuff. Man, I watched a whole like twenty
Speaker 1: minute like how they do it thing. I was very impressed.
Speaker 1: So maybe, But also, how many drones would you need
Speaker 1: in all fifty states? I don't have you know this,
Speaker 1: The US is kind of big. So that's like, that's
Speaker 1: all the drones?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: If she used Okham's razor, yeah, that's probably it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably it. Now she'd used the correct one, Well,
Speaker 1: totally different. All right. If people are sending me other
Speaker 1: theories they're looking for Waldo, Nope. I think that's more
Speaker 1: likely too than her theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, fortunately we're gonna rank that very low. I read
Speaker 1: online it was Bill Belichick spying and Rutgers. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it's what he does. It's what he does. That would
Speaker 1: because that gives you the cover because now, if you're
Speaker 1: over all football practices across the nation, how do you
Speaker 1: know which one they're actually spying on it? Now, the
Speaker 1: question will be is when they get the drones back,
Speaker 1: will Tom Brady smash him with a hammer like his
Speaker 1: cell phone? I don't know, I don't know. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of questions there, all right,
Speaker 1: eight eighteen case O Day Radio program, I was talking
Speaker 1: about Trump, and I got a little sidetracked there. Uh
Speaker 1: he he, he did sit down for an interview. There
Speaker 1: were a couple of moments. I'm going to play those
Speaker 1: for you. Also, apparently he's suing everybody. Oh and Jim
Speaker 1: Acosta is ready to get a triple fake news. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know what he's vying for, but it
Speaker 1: ain't good. And I didn't. I for a moment, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought this was fake for a moment, did you
Speaker 1: see what one of our Supreme Court justices is up to?
Speaker 1: All right, all of this before the end of the show,
Speaker 1: will do it? Coming up? Hang on our very newest
Speaker 1: justice who really really is very vocal during the uh
Speaker 1: during the hearings. Uh, there's a little chart out ross
Speaker 1: Rivers just talking about it off the air, and it's
Speaker 1: words spoken by justices And like Clarence Thomas has always
Speaker 1: bottom right because he like he may ask a question
Speaker 1: a hearing if that Tanji Brown Jackson doesn't shut up, man,
Speaker 1: And that's fine. Some are more talkative on the right
Speaker 1: and the left than others. That being said, a lot
Speaker 1: of it, especially like when you heard some of the
Speaker 1: stuff with some of the more recent rulings where it's like,
Speaker 1: you're not even making sense women. But what I did
Speaker 1: not realize, and it actually now makes more sense, is
Speaker 1: she's also a theater kid. And and I mean that
Speaker 1: in the derogatory version of it, not that if your
Speaker 1: kid likes to do the school play, but the theater kid.
Speaker 1: You know that that that that that ideology that seems
Speaker 1: to drive so many lunatics on the left right, where
Speaker 1: it's you know, a main character syndrome coupled with I'm
Speaker 1: always right and I'm just over the top because like
Speaker 1: she's She took part in a a what is it
Speaker 1: a queer Romeo and juliet production, No no, no, like
Speaker 1: really took part on the stage and seemed very comfortable
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 4: Female powerment.
Speaker 1: Sick. I like it too.
Speaker 6: I think what I like about it is that I
Speaker 6: am having a very strongly negative reaction to it, like
Speaker 6: I hate it, which makes you think it must be brilliant.
Speaker 1: This is a Broadway production of Don Binary Romeo and
Speaker 1: Juliet I made it to Brooklay. What is going on?
Speaker 1: By the way, I saw the Fellini version of Romeo
Speaker 1: and Juliette, the one they show in school, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you Juliette is not non binary. I can't
Speaker 1: believe they let us watch that in school. Dude, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. You saw that too school,
Speaker 1: and I was like, can't believe they showed us that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you would. Also, you're on, she's very binary, you
Speaker 1: look very by then, all right, but what's even great?
Speaker 1: Here's whatever? Cash bats.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me what to do. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: find a woman.
Speaker 7: What I'm justin David Sullivan, I use the pronouns he, she,
Speaker 7: and they, and I played Julia's best friend May Wow.
Speaker 1: Can you use all of them?
Speaker 7: May goes on a journey of self discovery, finds love,
Speaker 7: and explores their tender identity. I am fiercely proud that
Speaker 7: there are a characters in the show that are in
Speaker 7: conversation with queer representation and what it means to find
Speaker 7: love in a way that perhaps is often seen as