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Sports Behind the Glass, pushing all the buttons and architecting
the show. Let's welcome in the bucket Getter, Ronald the
three Man Weaver to the show. What's up, Ronnie, what's up?
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny you talked about bucket Getter because I
was stretching out my hamstring last night and this is
just how privateful I am. I'm rewatching the top five
lights on BOU TV from the media game and my
wife is like, what are you doing. I'm like, ah,
getting prepared for Thursday. And she's like, what does. I
haven't played ball in two weeks. It's like, I gotta
remind the people in the ward who I am. And
she's like, you're ridiculous, And I said, Hey, that's how
to stay active. I gotta stay active. It's a beautiful day.
Hopefully we can play outside though, Ben, because it's beautiful
right now. If you look outside your window.
Speaker 4: Indeed it is. You know, there's not in Utah. Like
so I grew up in Arizona. There is always pickup
ball at the park. That's where we played. We actually
didn't play at the church. We played at Utopia Park
right down the street. Sometimes it was Bell Elementary when
we were growing up. We always play at the outdoor
park in Utah. It's all indoor, baby, It's all indoor.
Whether it's uh right, Like, do you know of any
pickup games in outdoor settings in the spring, summer, fall.
Speaker 2: Unless my friends are playing or I've talked to the
youth about it. No, Yeah, hopefully I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Let me know.
Speaker 2: I would love to go outside and hoop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no pickup on the on the on the concrete,
on the asphalt.
Speaker 2: Unless people have it in their driveway. But that doesn't
count on things.
Speaker 4: Don't okay, that don't pick up? Brett always bringing the hammer,
Hammer time show. Also in studio Brett do you ever
play pickup? Outdoor pickup? Did you play outdoor pickup? Growing up?
Two things? First of all, I may have breaking news,
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Speaker 5: Your first question, Yes, I did play pick up court
pickup basketball in.
Speaker 4: The DC area.
Speaker 5: I remember there was a basketball court, right, I said,
the library down by my house, and me and my
friend Jaden used to run those in junior high.
Speaker 4: So your second well, I think.
Speaker 5: Also the other thing is in Utah, like there's more
basketball gyms per square mile than probably anywhere, and everybody
knows how to get into the gym, not everybody, So
that's a separate thing. The breaking news. I'm trying to
confirm this. That's why I said maybe breaking news. College
FB Portal on Twitter put out new BYU wide receiver
visited the Mormon Temple yesterday with his fiance bou safety
Foulatao south Dwala, and quarterback Trayson Borgae also joined him.
There's a picture of all of them together. College Ball
Transfer Portal. I know people are gonna say they have
ESPN in their logo. This is not an account that's
associated with ESPN. Sometimes they do parody stuff, but this
picture does look real. They have not attributed where they
got the photo from, but this does seem to be
a photo of Parker, Trayson Folatao, and wives and girlfriends
all at the temple together. Okay, I have it under
It's under your save drafts on Twitter if you want
to take a look at it. But yeah, I mean
I don't again, we don't. We don't know what has
happened with Parker. But like what I can say is
like seeing him in his in core and then these
zoom meetings, Like the guy looks disheveled and he looks rough.
So to see him smiling and with people who love him,
that that that's.
Speaker 4: Good to see. Assuming that this is a legit, well,
you know, I try to get as many people's you know,
opinions about certain matters and and try to you know,
you know, obviously you take the official reports that are
coming out of the courts. I know there was a
number of different news agencies that went down there and
reported the the most recent actions of the court and
statements made by I believe the prosecution as well as
the defense, you know. But like that what I heard
like two weeks ago, like that this thing could either
be dropped or settled before it goes to trial, right,
And I was like drop and said or are two
different things. And it was more towards the draw is
what I said. Oh okay, I'm like, okay, we'll see
what happens now. I'm not officially reporting anything. I'm just
telling you what I've heard from a couple of different sources,
and I'm like, well, when you get confirmation and if
you're feeling that way, let me know. And I'm happy
to to to maybe go on record on this is
that if we get enough, if you get enough you know,
data points that that that are credible. But ultimately we
want as and I've said this consistently, you guys have
echoed the same sentiments. What we want is justice to
be wrought and truth ultimately unfurled, right, whether it's justice
for the victim, justice for uh, the the accused right,
and and ultimately you want truth and transparency and and
light and knowledge given. And unfortunately, many times in these cases,
when there's an accusation of rape, you don't really it's
he said, she said stuff. Was it consensual or not. Now,
I think there's been more communication audited on her side
of it and on Parker side of things. And even
though what's been reported to the media has been you know,
I think the initial reports looked pretty damning towards Parker, right,
would we all agree on that, Like most the initial
reports didn't look good for Parker. I've heard more reports
coming out that that it doesn't look good for her
and it was similar. I think when when the the
the defense attorney Caratangaro I believe was her name, she
said something akin to this. This seems like or is
like the Jake Retslof situation. Remember when we got into
the Jake Reetzlaf communications between the the the the female
Jane Doe and Jake, it was proven that she was
still propositioning him to go hang out with him after
the purported rate. So there may be something there to
be determined that there was communication prior and after that
could be a little bit damning towards her case, and
it dilutes it a little bit. There's still as a
he said, she said component to it. But does she
really want to does she want to stand get up
on the you know it be be questioned with TV
cameras and other things. Does she want to testify? Does
she want to put her name out there? She may
not want to. She may not want to go through
that process because you can get exposed if there are
holes in the case. We'll see what happens. But to
your point, you know, I think we all want just
justice and truth.
Speaker 5: It's good to see Parker smiling, man, because like it's
just it's been rough to see him like going through
this again.
Speaker 4: Whatever did or didn't happen, we don't know.
Speaker 5: But he has looked like a show of himself in
these videos, as someone would if they've been dealing with
someone something that serious. So to see this picture of
Parker and Trayson follows out at the Linden open house
it was yesterday, it just it feels good to see
a smile on Parker's face.
Speaker 4: Let me let me tell you this much. Let's say
that he is he is found Like say they go
through the court system and he goes to trial and
he's found not guilty or it's dropped. Sure, Okay, let's say,
like it's pretty obvious that there was a false accusation made.
What would need to happen at that point, because there
has to be there has to be repercussions for false accusations, right,
defamation case? Could you? I mean you could counter sue
with defamation.
Speaker 5: Those I've heard are pretty tough to fully prove, but
you could do that.
Speaker 4: You can. But the punitive damages are objective. Yeah, he
lost out on a ton of money.
Speaker 5: Especially like if this is pre nil, then it's hard
to prove punitive damages because you're like, well I would
have gotten drafted to the NFL, and like that's pretty
subjective to go back and forth on. But yeah, with
then il it's pretty easy to prove punitive damages at
that point if.
Speaker 4: That were to be the case. What I'm saying is,
if there is falsification and this was a money player,
was like a defamation play to you know, do to
whatever reason, whatever the motives would be, there has to
be some sort of repercussion. And I think we need
to delve into the psychology of why this happens when
there's a false accusation made and uh, and even look
at our internal like culture and infrastructure and what, you know,
what we've seen. You know, we need to probably interview
psychologists and psychiatrists about like why this happens, especially amongst
the Latter Days and community that you know, chastity is
a very important thing. The law of chastity is extremely
important within the Church of Jesus Christ out of her saints,
and there's a lot of like shame there, right when
you don't you know, when you don't you know, live
up to that standard. Right. So all I'm saying that
I'm projecting, like what what is the what are the ramifications,
what is the the the retribution if you will, if
he is if this case drops or he's found not guilty,
because that's a possibility, guys innocent, he'll proven guilty. And
if it does come down like could he play football again? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean look, I like I said, I had a
conversation with another person that said, like, he's going to
play football this year. Someone told me, and it was
this is incredible. I'm like, okay, like slow down, slow down.
But like this is someone who also said, like he
believed that Jake is going to be playing football, Like
he was out in front of him, like, Jake's going
to be playing football this year. Now is it at
b YU don't know, but you know it is. It's
so I'm not willing to say Parker is going to
be playing football this year because I don't have all
the details. But I wouldn't be at this point, knowing
what I know about other situations that are akin to
what Parker Kingston is experiencing here in the state of
Utah particularly, I wouldn't be surprised, is what I'm getting at.
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down that way.
So guys, we got a great show for you that
that you know, some some interesting news starting it off.
I don't know if you guys really broke down yesterday
that the recent news on Parker Knse. You guys delved
into some of the minutia there, so we can maybe
rehash some of those elements and the latest reports coming
out of the courts. But we got to start start
a cash for you, no doubt about it. Byron Rex's
gonna join us at three thirty keeping up with the Cougars.
We'll talk alumni game as well as what he thinks
about this tight end room and the twelve personnel that
could be employed. Casey Lundquiz Cougar Beat. He represents by
U SI Sports Illustrated Ronald the three Man. We was
able to catch up with QB two. Trayson Borgay, You're
not You're not gonna want to miss that, Remember Traysy Borgay.
Uh is he's a locker room guy. He is a
he is a He's like the backbro bone. Personality wise,
you mentioned Trayson was there right and that in that
picture he is a loving kind human and uh just
a positive vibe, positive energy all the time. And guess
what he recruited Kyler Casper to be what used If
Kyler Casser vanas up becoming wide receiver one this year,
you may have to go and you know, bend the
knee to Tracon, be like, thank you, Trayson, thank you
for recruiting.
Speaker 5: You're seven on seven. Thanks for not leaving somewhere else.
So we didn't have you here to recruit Kyler.
Speaker 4: Because Trayson wants to play ball, he could very well
leave and probably could have played at a lower level.
Speaker 2: Can I give it tea he's been jumping in here. Yeah,
he discusses that with me in the interviewed. I straight
up basked him because I said, he's a red shirt senior,
why stay out? And he told me why? So I
asked him the question and he answered why he stayed.
And let me give you guys some more contacts he had,
he had reason to leave, he had he could have
done it, and he said no. So that's all I'll
say on that. Let's wait till four thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stay tuned. Cougar Nation. I interviewed Kevin Gilbride, tight
ends coach for b YU will get to that at
five or five and then Isaac Trotter, National college basketball
rider for CBS Sports in twenty four to seven. We'll
talk some March madness at five point thirty and his
projections for the national championship and what are his thoughts
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into here in the nitty gritty. One of the things
I put out here today, and I don't know if
we really recapped the PRODA. Who do you feel had
the best combine in PRODA from the BA football players
and why? Jack Kelly obviously had a very high ROD
score nine point seven. He ran a four to five
to seven four one nine, shuttle three cone seven two
and then vertical thirty seven and a broad jup of
ten to five. Chase Roberts showed well and improved his stock.
I think at the PROD four five to one, forty
times four two eight, shuttle three, cone of six nine
zero and then vertical thirty seven inches and broad of
ten six. He had a ROS scorer seven point seven seven.
Carson Ryan may have elevated his draft stock running a
seven seven excuse me, four to seven to one. He
had a short shuttle of four to two to two.
That's tremendous, three cone of three six nine seven, and
then vertical jump up thirty three and a half inches,
broad jump of ninety seven, a bench press total of
twenty three with a ross score nine point two four.
Remember that ross score is out of ten all the
way up to ten. Tanner Wall had a great showing
as well. Four to five seven forty times, four to
one nine short shuttle, a three cone of six eight zero,
vertical jump of thirty seven and a half. He had
a broad of almost eleven feet, ten to nine bench
press of fourteen. He had an eight point seven eight
ross score, one of the best, I think from the
combining scores and Pro Day scores. In college football, Mori
Bamba shook the world up a little bit with that
four to two seven forty time. He had a short
shuttle not as fast as he needed it to be,
but four four one. He's more fast than he is quick,
thirty six and a half inch vertical. He had an
eleven to one broad and then thirteen on the bench press.
He had a nine point five to three ros score,
one of the best in the modern era. For Byu
kink Luba Pati four six forty four two eight shut short,
shuttle seven two eight three cone thirty five inch vertical
ten seven broad and then a bench press at twenty
eight that's impressed. At twenty eight bench for a running back,
that's pretty insane. Six point three six roscor John tim
Peveloki had a great day four point eight seven and
I believe he was almost at a three hundred pounds.
That's fast. He's moving four eight two shuttle three cone
of a seven to seven seven and then a vertical
jump of thirty inches, broad of nine to three and
bench press at twenty seven Rosco seven point one seven
Waylin Lapuaho five point zero five forty a four points
eighty five short, shuttle three cone of seven point eight three,
vertical of twenty seven and a half and then broad
of nine to five and bench press eighteen. Kind of
low on the bench press, but uh ross score seven
point eight four for Whalan lapluas Isaiah John a five
point one to three on the forty four nine to
four on the short shuttle three conas, a seven eight
to five vertical jump of twenty seven and a half
and then nine to one broad. He had a roscore
of five point seven to six, a little bit lower
than I expected, quite honestly for Isaiah, because he's a
much better athlete than that. Austin Leusdo had himself a
day five point zero one forty a shuttle of four
point seven eight three cones seven to five six pretty
good there, vertical twenty eight and a half, nine seven broad,
and then twenty one on the bench. That was an
eight point nine to seven ross score. Talent. Alf Alfrey
ran a four to six three vertical jump of twenty
eight and a half broad jump of nine to nine
and bench press thirteen. Jayden dunlap four to four nine
forty vertical of thirty inches abroad of ten and a half.
Garrison grinds four to five two. That's actually for a
long snap of four Garrison's Garrison may play in the
league guys at long snapper with that four or five
to two his size and his specialty thirty two and
a half ins for nine seven broad, bench press twenty
two and then Kalfusi pu Kofe ended up benching thirty
nine times. Guys Brad always ring the hammer, who had
Who are the most impressive performances to you? And what
I mean?
Speaker 5: The easy one is Maury Bomba, right, yeah, because he
just blasted through the forty time and you could teach
a lot of things. There's a lot of things that
you can't quantify and you have to take a guess
on like speed. Something you can't teach speed, something that
shows up as a number. And so I think Mariy Bomba.
The conversation we had I think yesterday was like who
exploded their draft stock the most, who improved it the most?
I think the answer is Moury, just because of probably
where he was sitting and then where he moved up to.
So I think that probably helped a lot. The other
thing that I didn't really mentioned yesterday that I think
probably helped this person's draft stock a lot.
Speaker 4: I think Jake Redsoft probably helped his stock a lot. Yeah,
he look good, Yeah, and I wonder.
Speaker 5: If it has even less to do with what he
did on the field and the fact that, like I
think the reconciliation with Byu, I think that shows that
you're an adult who can either however you want to
look at it, look at someone who wronged you, or
look at someone who you feel wrong to you, even
though whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4: I think to be able to have those kinds of.
Speaker 5: Adult conversations to say, look, this doesn't hurt me, like
I can move on, I can repair this, we can
move past this, I think shows the kind of personality
that you have that things don't ruin you personally, that
you're not gonna be like a Baker Mayfield in college,
where you're just taking everything personal and you're emotionally erratic.
Like we haven't really talked about that, but I do
think that that probably said some things to some NFL
scouts where it's like, Okay, this is a guy who
could easily just say f BYU, man, screw them, I'm
not talking about them. But like he comes back and
he's like, no, we're good, and I'm so happy to
be a part of this. I actually think Jake may
have helped his draft sock a lot, with that being
something that you can't necessarily quantify.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the maturity level is is an elite
level of professionalism there. I think it's a really good point,
and he slung it really well. I've heard great reports
that he was flinging it and looking good. And he's
an accurate passer and good arm strength. So, uh does
he have uh? Does he have a fighting chance to
be an undrafted free agent? For certain? And he's shown
an ability to run the ball as well. Little undersize
he'll come in at just a hair under six', one
SO i, Think, uh, well he's essentially six foot six
foot TWO o seven is where he's. At and so
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Speaker 2: News, yeah this is now what fans want to, hear
But cougar's in the pros for. Sure rams pookin' coula
suit over alleged Anti semitic remark and. BITE a woman
In Los angeles has filed a civil lawsuit against pookin
a cool a legend THE rams wide receiver made a
quote unprovoked Anti semitic, statement close, quote and later bit
her on the. Shoulder lawsuit sites gender, violence assault and
battery and. Negligence there you, Go, Ben.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's not. Good. Uh pook has had a pretty rough. Offseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he's been the media not the way he. Wants,
Yeah i'm just.
Speaker 4: Kidding.
Speaker 5: Yeah between that the stream To Aiden, ross which that,
ONE i felt like he could have argued he didn't
know what.
Speaker 2: Was going on this.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 5: Uh Sarah, barshops the one who put out the article AT.
Espn in the court document obtained BY, Espn atiabi Says
nikoa said quote f all The, jews and that quote
she immediately felt uncomfortable and emotionally distressed because of Her jewish.
Faith she said she was in her car When nicouis
forcibly bit her on the, shoulder leaving a circular imprint
of his teeth on her. Body the lawsuit alleges nikoa
bit her friend's thumb in the car with such force
that her companion screamed in acute. Pain was filed for
a temporary restraining.
Speaker 4: Order, okay. Biting that's, LOOK i, Mean puku was just
at A buie basketball, game wasn't? He didn't he show?
UP i thought he pulled up to a basketball. Game,
really one of the last games of This Iowa state
was That Iowa state. Game so, YEAH i think it
was so. Look.
Speaker 5: Uh poopa's lawyer has said that this is not a,
legitimate claiming that it's.
Speaker 4: Blackmail yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah so that's of. Note but,
uh and it's a simple. Case it looks like you
gotta be careful. Guys, ultimately what it comes down to,
is as soon as you become a target and you're
making money and you're having, success you have to be
really judicious about who you're with and who you're in
a circle is comprised. Of you can't be seen filmed
being filmed in a, drunken drunken stupor you, know with
your with your brother getting into an Suv like that's
not that's not a. Good. LOOK i MEAN i got
text about that. One it's, LIKE i don't, Know hey,
man he's just a young, man you, know you, know
maybe a little, repressed you, know just enjoying join his.
Life and everyone has to, learn you, know a lot
of people have to get burned on the stove to
learn that you probably shouldn't put your hand on the.
Stove and maybe that's one of these. Situations, well and the.
Speaker 5: Hard part is when you've had your hand close to
the stove enough times and then you get. Burned it's,
like all, right, WELL i don't feel bad because you
may have not gotten burned the first two, times but
like your hand was, there now you've gotten.
Speaker 4: Burned it's just it's this may not be.
Speaker 5: True the problem is like when you've had enough close,
encounters even if they don't have, validity they start to add.
Speaker 4: Up, Yeah i'll say this. Much look like the idea
of repression within our culture is. Real i've seen it
time and time. Again like once you get out into
the real world and you don't have necessarily like the, bubble,
right whether it's within the faith or it's in The utah,
culture people get out in about and or they get
into the midlife crisis or the after the empty nester.
Crisis they're just like the divorced eat drinking and being,
merried living their best. Lives LIKE i don't know if
that's the. Case, like you, know he grew up In.
Utah he didn't go To washington for a, minute came.
Back he didn't seem like he was getting in a
whole lot of trouble in, provo giving it pretty low.
Key and then he gets THE nfl and he's, like
he's In la La. Is you need place La. Is That's, hollywood,
man and the bright lights can blind you real quick
from you, know what should be the reality of the.
Situation and he probably needs, to you, know just evaluate
his day to day decisions and who he's surrounding himself.
With but he hasn't had a good offseason by any,
means not at. All AND i was kind of looking
at the list of. Things there was a number of
like things that he's run. Into you, mentioned you mentioned,
WELL i mentioned that the drunken Stupor, yep there was
the anti semitic comments early or they danced the gesture that.
Speaker 5: One he DIDN'T i. DON'T i don't put that one
on him because like he didn't. Know but, again like
it's it's core of public. Opinion when you've been enough
of those like they you stopped getting the benefit of the.
Speaker 4: Doubt, yes one of the things that came out too
just about like twenty hours, ago rams star wide stret
coup revealed he cannot afford to buy a, home remember
this story home In Los. Angeles he pays rent for
his apartment to cool will make one million this. Year
he has to pay five hundred and twenty thousand in
taxes and comes up with four hundred and eighty. Thousand
now you may, think like that's a lot of, money
but that's not enough necessarily to afford a home IN
La that's why he's rented an. Apartment you also. Had
he's going into a second year.
Speaker 5: Contract samson who allegedly took a call wasn't. His and
then it came back to be like again the story
came out after the fact that it wasn't as bad
as we originally. Thought but, again like they just pile
up and pile, up and you stop getting the benefit
of the doubt because people are, like how do you
always happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong.
Speaker 4: Time, YEAH i don't, know, man did he did he
lie about a skydiving date With Sidney swingey?
Speaker 5: Too, yeah they were at The Pro bowl and that
they asked him and he was joking like oh, yeah
or well he because he tweeted and At sidney swing
he was LIKE i love skydiving whatever and shot shot,
right and then they did an interview with him and
he was, like, oh, yeah we're going this. Week he
was being. Sarcastic, however everyone took it. Seriously, well, yeah
he had just been. Photographed he was, like had been
on a date with another CELEBRITY i think like two days,
prior and was dating another girl before. That and so
people are, like all, right well this is kind of
an odd, look like you're already dating, people and why
you're dating, People you're.
Speaker 4: Like shooting your show With sidney Swing.
Speaker 5: So, again it's just a lot of isolated incidents that
on their own are like not that, bad but when
you add them all, up like.
Speaker 4: It Doesn't you mentioned taking AN nba player's. Car, uh he,
stated there's another controversial, thing like he, said Like Miles
garrett is the NFL's equivalent Of giannis At tenkopa coop.
One uh, anyway, YEAH i don't. KNOW i, mean look
the reason why people Love puka by the, way THE
nfl Loves, pooka and THE nfl fans Love pooka and
his teammates Love puoka like, like so this isn't necessarily
a good look as like for like b Y u,
fans like he went to B Yu, YEAH lds, kid you,
KNOW i don't know how active he is and all that.
Stuff you, know it doesn't really. Matter but uh, yeah
it's like from from A byu fan post fan base,
standpoint they're, like oh, man it's not. Good from like
A byu alum, standpoint it's maybe not the best.
Speaker 2: Thing AND i kind of jump in here, Though ben
remember When Patrick mahomes' his family was doing wild. Stuff,
though oh, YEAH i had said on this airways that's
gonna have to. Stop Andy reid's gonna have to say
something or organization like your, husband your brother is about
to be in the. Limelight you cannot be doing out
of pocket. Stuff i'm gonna say the same. Thing you're
a top three wide receiver in THE. Nfl you gotta
stop being in the limelight in the wrong. Way like it's.
Not it has nothing to do with, race. Religion it
has do your. Actions like What brett, Said he's not
gonna get the benefit of the doubt and he's becoming a.
Face he has ad deal like that's gotta, Stop ben
like all, this he gotta go, away like put the phone,
down as they would tell the, kids, relaxed stay at the,
crib play the video. Games people get On Kevin durant
for being. Moody bro be playing video games and chilling
at the. Crib we need pooka to to not even
just forget the byu' sake and the alumni, sake for THE,
nfl for The. Rams you need a teammate to, say,
man let me mentor. You he needs a mentor right
now to tell him to take a step back because
you just again too many bad. INSTANCES i think where
you just you see him like you just don't want
to see a star wide receiver in that. Position you
want to see things, differently because there's gonna come to
a point in time if this continues where it is
is gonna get serious and then he's gonna get himself
into real trouble and then you don't want.
Speaker 5: That, Yeah AND i think THE nfl knows that they
have a Pokin akua pr, issue not necessarily full, issue
but Pokin A CoA was just on The THE nfl
collabsed with the content creator and they did like an
interview cooking session With pookinakua that was put on by THE.
Nfl SO i think THE nfl is aware that they're
trying to sway the public opinion Of puka back to
what it, is because when it's, great when Pokin A
coula is in the good, limelight like Pokin A coua
is the, coolest most fun guy in THE. Nfl SO
i think THE nfl realizes they are kind of on
the fence a little bit right, here and if it
goes one way rather than the, other it could be
a big marketing loss for The National Football.
Speaker 4: League he he's got a he's got a little bit
of like a jovial Fun Gronk field to. Him does
that make? Sense ronk was very very out there, partying but,
LIKE i don't think he was ever at the years
in Brold in like certain like scandalous. Things but then,
AGAIN i didn't keep track of all Of gronk's.
Speaker 5: Things SO i have a family member who works With,
gronk and he was telling, Me gronk right, now like
he is trying his hardest just to like do all
the right, things say all the right, things because like,
again he has people in his circle who want to
just go get hammer and slots every. Night and he was,
Like i've been really impressed With gronk Because gronk is
just trying to do his best to stay out of.
Trouble and it's hard when you have family members and
friends like they want to unleash The beast and.
Speaker 4: You're trying to do the right. Thing gronk actually went
on record recently and, said like he's got his like
he's got his partner, now he's got his girl now
AND i don't know if they're married, yet but it
may be a fiance or something like. That But Tom brady's,
single and Like tom used to be the one that
would stay in And gronk would be the one going,
out and Now tom's, like, hey let's, go And gron's, like,
NO i, CAN'T i can't. GO i can't go.
Speaker 5: Out gronk was the party animal, now so like so
like to see him doing that With. Tom it's Like,
tom you gotta calm what shoot, Man well he drink
and be.
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this picture now for those that don't, know b what
You white Super parkings and this is?
Speaker 5: It this is?
Speaker 4: Valid? RIGHT i mean is THIS i don't know where it,
from SO i couldn't verify.
Speaker 5: It this is not doesn't look LIKE ai that's. What,
yeah because because you never, KNOW i didn't want to
assume that it's. Legit but it doesn't LOOK ai. Generated
and we do know That trayson was there because he
put it on that.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, yeah what was the what was the tweet
from Traycon.
Speaker 2: Let me find it really quickly one, second but he was.
Speaker 4: At the open. House, yeah and he was, like what
are some other bucket list TEMPLES i need to go? To?
Yeah so, yeah he was, there AND i mean this
particular photo proportedly Says Peole White Saper parkings visited The
Mormon temple yesterday with.
Speaker 2: His Fiance say here's a tweet nineteen hours.
Speaker 4: Ago fontileswala and Quarterback Trayson borgay also joined.
Speaker 2: HIM i Have raya traysonbourg in nineteen hours ago At
Trayson borga On twitter quote just tour The Lyndon temple
open house period as a non. MEMBER i don't know what.
TO i didn't know what to, expect but it was.
Incredible what's a bucket list? TEMPLE i need to visit
question our close?
Speaker 4: Quote so that, okay so he was, There SO i.
Speaker 2: Think that picture's. Legit we can't, be But i'm pretty
sure that pictures.
Speaker 4: Legit Remember parker can't be on social media per the court. Orders,
Yep so this didn't come from. Him could have been
one of the girls that posted, it et.
Speaker 2: Cetera, RIGHT i would agree with.
Speaker 4: Him, yeah so but, smiling and he's with his. Fiance
so reading between the, lines if he's with his fiance,
still she's standing by. Him she believes that he did
not rape this woman In Washington, county In Saint. George
that would be the sum that would be the. Assumption
and LIKE i, said for the last two, Weeks i've
been hearing that this case could be dropped or somehow set.
On like now there's a. Difference i'm, like is this
settler drop trying to get clarity on on some of these?
Things settler drop settled to. Drop we'll see how it plays.
Out but his fiancee is with, him so read between
the lines. There let me do a little cougars in the.
Pros here SHALL. I i don't know if you guys
got into this. Shisa did you guys Talk Zach? Wilson,
NO i don't know how we. DIDN'T i JUST i
just saw.
Speaker 2: THAT i was, LIKE i was, like how DO i miss?
Speaker 4: THAT i, Like saints are signing Former dolphins Quarterback Zach
wilson to a one year, deal and, UH i can't
wait to see what he can do Under Kellen morris
tutelage Than Orleans. Saints let's, go, Well taysum is his
contract is up, right his contract is. Up so we
don't know If taysum's coming. Back we don't know if
he's gonna be re. Signed we don't know if he's
A saint or if he's gonna be A. Bronco, Remember
Sean payton was the guy that Found Taysom. Hill Sean
payton when he was With Norland, saints he was looking
at he was looking for a wide he was looking
at a wide RECEIVER i don't remember which wide receiver
was for The packers in the, preseason And Tisom hill
jumped off the page to him, said oh my, gosh
who's this. Guy The packers thought that they could put
Put taysum, essentially LIKE i can't remember what the term is,
here but they were gonna stow him away as a
practice squad. Player and guess who picked him up off
Waivers Sean payton's, HEY i want that, Guy, no, Sir
i'm taking. Him got him In New. Orleans he's been
there ever, since being the the triple Thread swiss army
knife tight, end running, back, quarterback wide, receiver special teams,
specialist blocking, punts returning kicks into and everything for The.
Saints one of the greatest all around football players IN nfl.
History and you hope he's still in The Orleans. SAINTS i,
mean could you Imagine taysom And Zach wilson in the
same backfield. Together that would be so. Cool it would
be even craziers If jamal got re signed with. It, yes,
yes let's. GO i mean that'd be. Insane what If
taysam ends up In? Denver, Yeah that's What i'm, Saying,
like that's that was my natural. Life Could New orleans
let him?
Speaker 5: Walk LIKE i realized That Sean payton's not there, anymore
but like he's been playing for the last few years
Since shawn's been.
Speaker 4: Gone how in the. World could you let that guy?
Walk he's getting. Expensive, sure but it's not like the.
Demand it's not like every all thirty two teams in
THE nfl won. Him yeah, so And i'm sure HE
i should have asked we had we Had David nixon
on our show last week or two weeks, AGO i
should have asked him about. Tastum its completely slipped my.
Mind but try to get a little all to do
some due diligence on this and see kind of who's,
uh who's interested In.
Speaker 5: Taysom the quarterback room In New orleans is interesting right. Now,
Man you Have Tyler shuck and you Have Spencer. Ratler,
Now Tyler, SHUCK i don't think he WON Ap Offensive
player of The year last, year BUT i believe he
was in the running for. It only played eleven games
Against Spencer ratler played some of. Those Tyler schuck the
kid out Of louisville, Rookie so it's not Like New
orleans is super bought into any of these.
Speaker 4: Guys it sounds Like Tyler shuck.
Speaker 5: Would be the guy going forward because he had such
a successful back half of the. Season given the fact
that he was in the running FOR Ap Offensive rookie
of The.
Speaker 4: Year but it's not like he's competing With Drew.
Speaker 5: Brees Zach wilson is it's not like he's even competing
With tuatango vai loa Like Tyler shuck has given them
half a. Season maybe there's a world Where Zach wilson
plays into this. Thing it'd be really interesting to see
how this thing goes For New orleans this.
Speaker 4: Year one Thing i'll point out, him there's gonna be
haters out there that will, say, Like Zach wilson's a,
Boss Zach wilson's never going to be a starting quarterback
in THE. Nfl Zach WILSON X y AND z right
second overall draft pick to The New York. Jets one
of the most just dysfunctional organizations in THE, nfl maybe
the most dysfunctional and curse for that. Matter the ownership
just needs to just rid itself of itself and just sell.
It just sell it so that you can remove the
curse at any. Rate ends up In, denver backing up you,
know you Know stidham And bonnicks and now and then
he just backed up to it tego By law and
now he's With New orleans do you know how Old
Zach wilson is twenty, seven twenty? FIVE i think he
may have just turned twenty. Six you, know do you
know When Steve young became a starter in THE, nfl
like and was successful in THE, Nfl so he had
his tam he had as you, know HIS usfl, deal
and then he went To tampa struggled there, obviously but
then went to the forty nine ers and sat Behind
Joe montana for years in The Bill walsh. Offense he
didn't become the guy until he was like thirty years
old in the ninety one. Season, Sure so All i'm
saying Is Zach wilson has. Time he's got, talent but
he also has. Time there's a reason why these teams
are picking him up for one year, deals two year,
deals et, cetera because they're, Like, okay he's, experienced he's,
Talented like he's at, worst he's our backup quarterback that
can come in and run our. Offense smart kid and
not going to be a issue in the locker. Room
he could be in THE nfl as long as Like
Ty deptmer, was which was LIKE i want to, say
it was like fourteen fifteen years in THE. Nfl he
could be that type of. Guy now will he ever
be the? Starter he's got the talent for it if
he gets in the right, spot the right, organization the
right supporting. Cast maybe possibly Hopefully ronald the three man
weaver your thoughts on the.
Speaker 2: Matter, look you, said, BEEN i need how? MANY i
need two data? Points and Then i'm right. On we'll
hear you. Too, now one guy was a little bit
older In, anomaly But gino revived his career in twenty twenty. Two,
sure thirty, One Sam donold twenty, seven twenty twenty four
with The Minnesota. Vikings So, zach you're twenty, five give
it two more.
Speaker 5: Seasons So Spencer, rattler just for context two and seven last,
Year my guess Is Zach wilson could run the.
Speaker 4: Table he got a.
Speaker 2: SHOT i, agree so you.
Speaker 4: Do you have to look at.
Speaker 5: That but the other point THAT i THINK i want
to conclude with, is LET'S i, mean look at all
the quarterback Rooms Zach wilson has been in Between miami
And denver And New. York not so much because that's
not a quarterback room anyone wants to be. In but,
like out of all of Those this is probably the
best quarterback room For Zach wilson in terms of like
his odds of getting meaningful playing time that he had
in his.
Speaker 4: Career. Yeah, well, look LIKE i, said he's still very,
young and he's gotten plenty of experience, already and he's still,
there like people still want.
Speaker 5: HIM i think the AVERAGE nfl career lifespan on average for,
everybody the highs and, LOWS i think it's like three.
Speaker 4: Years do you know how many yards That Zach wilson
has thrown for in HIS nfl care A do you
how many attempts he's made as a, thrower how many
rushes he's? Made just give me a, guess just off
the give me yards attempts and how many how many
carries he's got for how many?
Speaker 5: Yards my guess on yards IS i Want i'm gonna
say like thirty seven thirty eight hundred yards and his
Attemps i'll go, sixty.
Speaker 4: You, know so like six, hundred six. Hundred are you for? Rushes? Yeah, Yeah,
Okay so this is where he's. At twenty five yards
throw that's a lot more THAN i. Thought he's got
one thousand and four attempts throwing it he's got twenty three. Touchdowns,
yes he's got twenty five, ironts so that's not a good.
Ratio he's carried them all ninety six times four or
ninety nine yards and five touchdowns over four years of five.
Years actually Because, denver he didn't get any, reps but
he was on the roster five years of playing in THE.
Nfl so that's a decent amount of. Reps that's a
decent amount of experience and you're only twenty.
Speaker 5: SIX i also think the other thing that's, nice and
not everybody gets, this But Sam darnold got the benefit
Of he came into the league and his talent didn't
go as far as he thought that it, did and
so he was forced to relearn the.
Speaker 4: Game, however some, guys.
Speaker 5: If you sometimes THE nfl doesn't give you the time
to relearn the. Game if you have to relearn the,
game then you're out of the. League Zach wilson is
in this really interesting spot where, yes he is kind
of on the verge of being out of the league
because he hasn't built up enough playing, time but he
also has had the years in THE nfl to learn
how to get better at the. Game i'm not saying
he'll necessarily Be Sam, donald but he does have an
opportunity that a lot of guys don't, get which is
years under your belt to learn where your talent doesn't
go as far as you think it, will and have
the opportunity to, change improve and become.
Speaker 4: Better. YEAH i would like to, see like from an
arm strength, standpoint Like Sam. DONALD i mean he's got
a good. Arm he's got a good. Arm like talent, wise,
Right LIKE i would say That Zach wilson And Sam
donald probably are a kin in talent and, ability yeah,
Right and that's why they were so highly, tattered highly, drafted,
right and highly productive at the collegiate level. Too so
at twenty eight years of, old that's how Old sam.
Is and you look at where he's at right, now
And ronald's over, here, like, hey two more years before you,
know Maybe zach finds his. Way, yeah, maybe or it's,
thirty maybe it's you, KNOW i don't. KNOW i don't
know when he's gonna get opportunity and what, Situation BUT
i really do Like Kellen. Moore and if you're gonna
learn Under, kellen you just learned under a unique, coach,
right In miami that has had his struggles but also
very unique dynamic mind, offensively and now you're Under Kellen.
Moore see what you can learn. THERE i think the.
Speaker 5: Thing people really forget and don't give enough credit to
with The Sam darnold. Experiences it's not as though he
went To minnesota and then he suddenly learned how to play.
Football he made a stop as a backup quarterback for
the One San francisco forty nine ers that nobody really talks,
about And sam has talked about how he had opportunities
to go other. Places he chose to go To San
francisco because he wanted to learn Under shanahan and how
to learn AN nfl offense how to run. It and
so Maybe Kellen moore is the. Guy But Zach WILSON
i think will need an experience like that where he
has somewhere where he can learn and not just get
his rocks kicked for an entire season of just running
around and getting. Hit NOW i don't know that he'd
ever made he gets To San francisco Because shanahan notoriously
doesn't want quarterbacks who run, around who, freelance who. Advise
he wants a guy who's only going to do exactly
what it is that he wants to. Do Maybe Zach
wilson falls into. That but kind of what Makes Zach
zach is the fact that he can do the, offscript
he can do the. Improvisation so, AGAIN i don't, know
and it doesn't necessarily have to Be San, francisco but
he needs to be somewhere where he can get a
real overhaul on his learning of how to run AN nfl.
Speaker 4: Offense and Maybe Kellen moore is that that's the most
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does it make you optimistic knowing THAT byu is top
twenty in returning production in college? Football Per Bill conley
OF espn dot, Com BRETT i always bringing the? Hammer
does that set your expectation your bar a little bit?
Higher for The cougars in twenty twenty, six the.
Speaker 5: Biggest story after the national championship was the, seniority the,
age the maturity of The Indiana.
Speaker 4: Who's your football?
Speaker 5: Team so not only do you have age and, seniority
but you have, continuity and both of those things together
make for a team that carries over a ton of,
culture which means there's less culture that you have to
install with the new, guys and it makes it a
lot easier for your transfers to.
Speaker 4: Just pick it.
Speaker 5: UP i THINK i said this after the season was,
over but LIKE i think a lot of these guys
came back not because they didn't want to go to THE.
Nfl Like i'm SURE lj could have gone to THE,
nfl been the, fourth, fifth sixth round or somewhere in
there and would have.
Speaker 4: A NICE nfl.
Speaker 5: Career he came back because he knows something about this
team that the rest of, us who aren't there every,
day we don't.
Speaker 4: Know there's a reason guys Like Keanu townovasar are, back.
Speaker 5: And, frankly there's a reason a lot of these guys
are back and didn't transfer to go somewhere, else because
that's the other aspect of.
Speaker 4: This they could have.
Speaker 5: Transferred they didn't have to go to THE, nfl they
didn't have to stay AT, byu they could.
Speaker 4: Have transferred to another. School i'm sure lots of people WANTED. Lj.
Martin i'm sure lots of people wanted To KEYUNT a
ton of.
Speaker 5: Us i'm sure a ton of people Wanted Isaiah, glasker
but they, said we're turning down the, paychecks we're turning
down THE.
Speaker 4: Nfl we're staying here AT byu to run it. Back
and that's a big. Deal, Yeah so sixty four percent
of their returning production per sp plus AND espn dot
com is, Returning so this is where most of it's coming. From,
though this is. Interesting BYU's defense has almost seventy percent
of its productivity. Returning that's six in college. Football so
When i'm talking about top twenty five, DEFENSE i have
an expectation for top twenty five. Defense k pop is
taking over a good, defense, okay and SO I i
have high standards for that. Offense you have about fifty
nine percent of. Production that's number fifty in. Collegfood who
look at? That that's kind of.
Speaker 5: INTERESTING i would also, though but that number is weighted
based on whether or not your quarterbacks. Returning CAUSE i,
like if you have fifty nine, percent but you are
bringing in like like last, year like we LOVE boec last,
year but like they weren't returning the, quarterbacks so we
didn't know what you were. Having so like that number
does look bad because it's fifty but you're bringing back
a very good, quarterback WHICH i would argue.
Speaker 4: Is shouldn't be weighted the same as everyone. Else BUT
i understand how they did the. Metrics, yeah, so seeing
that you have a very high expectation FOR bu football,
NOW i THINK byu wants to stay, humble stay. Hungry
they don't want any. Hype the last time this happened
was twenty twenty, two when you had a ton of returning.
Talent in, FACT i could probably double check, this BUT
i think it was pretty similar to. This it was
like a top twenty five team going into twenty twenty.
Two preseason rankings were right, there And billia flopped a little.
Bit they weren't, humble they weren't. Hungry they were a
little bit. Complacent they thought they could show up and
just ball out and beat their ross or their, schedule
and they fell. Short you, know they fell short In
vegas Versus Notre. Dame they went on a bit of
a death. Spiral they just weren't built for the success
that they had experienced it two years. Prior will that
change this? Year is my? Question. Ronald are you feeling
like history will repeat itself and there's gonna be a
little of a, dip a little bit of a, downturn
a little bit of a little bit of humble pie
that needs to be. Eaten or do you think they
can rise to the occasion and meet the bar and
meet the preseason hype and get back to double digits
three years in a. Row this has not happened since
the two thousand and six through the two thousand and nine,
seasons where you had three two thousand and six to
two thousand and. EIGHT i guess so the three consecutive
seasons of getting to double digit.
Speaker 2: Wins if he asked me to shoot in the dark
And Lanto Kalani, STAKI i probably would you know, why
because that's how big his culture. Is that's how big
this team has. Been With humbling being in hungry after
the five and seven, SEASON i don't know what occurred during.
That being, right we're not in the locker. Room we
don't know we could talk to people from that.
Speaker 4: Team, Well i'm not even talking about the five and.
SEVEN i know about the eight and. Five.
Speaker 2: Two, YEAH i, KNOW i know you, are BUT i just,
think But, BEN i feel like, THAT i don't, KNOW
i feel like that season in The Big tooby, yeah
after the eight and, Five, yes but this team IS
i think. CAPABLE i really do believe with all the
HYPE i do everything That i've, seen nothing is TO i,
mean it's the best one of the best cultures on.
CAMPUS i don't want to say the, best because there's
other programs that have good, cultures but it's one of
the best cultures on, campus if not the. Best SO
i definitely can see them doing. IT i don't think
they need. To i've not since any. ENTITLEMENT i mean
when you talk to these guys and we haven't asked about,
it but they know they still have a sour taste
in their mouth of how the season. Ended that can fuel.
People the only Thing, BEN i think that could derail
this from being a double digit win season again because
the schedule's, favorable is if they have what the basketball
team had and they have major, injuries and even then
could that not happen because their death has been. Tested
it was tested last, year AND i mean significant, guys
like you'd have to lose like five starters along the
defense and Obviously i'm not gonna, wood but like that's
what it would, happen or three or four significant pieces
on the offensive. SIDE i don't think. SO i definitely
see it. HAPPEN i think they live up to the
hype AND i think they definitely will do, it Especially Coline.
Zintaki there's a, Reason ben you heard it from Bron.
Santiago they're not investing in the football. Program they're investing In.
Kloniezataki that is the, man that is the guy that
has that program At king and has him doing the right.
Things he's putting guys in THE. Nfl he's getting the
high level OF ds, talent the NON lds talent to
come TO byu and it's. Thriving give me book, IT i.
BOOK i booked ten wins for sure next season.
Speaker 4: By brigham's stock is What ronald the three Man weaver
stating the productivity is, there the culture and chemistry and
cohesion is. There the only thing you really Lost you
lost some, seniors is no doubt you lost some good
football players. There but and you lost some coaches in the,
secondary in the defensive. SECONDARY i don't think there's enough
attrition to make you pessimistic about the twenty twenty sixth,
seasons at least as a fan base and as a media.
Base that's not where it's going to come. From there's
going to be hype everywhere. There the question is can
The cougar football team block out the noise and own
their processes and be focused on the process rather than
whatever results are. Coming we can week, out don't buy
into the hype. Internally let us hype it up on the.
Outside we'll go to, break don't go. Anywhere that's let's
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