Speaker 1: Pank Shinkoff is with us, and you know Germane did
Speaker 1: this conversation, Hank. If there's one thing that is the
Speaker 1: poison pill, the cyanide pill that the Democrat Party has swallowed,
Speaker 1: it's been the pivot that they went from being an
Speaker 1: anti illegal immigration party to a pro illegal immigration party.
Speaker 1: And maybe it got them some votes, maybe it got
Speaker 1: them some wins here and there, but to me, this
Speaker 1: was the syinide pill they're swallowing at the moment.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the morning, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a cyanide pill, but I make the following argument
Speaker 2: that it reflects what they think is the future, which
Speaker 2: is a change in country that is no longer European derivative.
Speaker 2: That is, that's kind of you know that it comes
Speaker 2: from South America, that comes from Asia and is much
Speaker 2: more likely to kind of feel more comfortable with what
Speaker 2: the Democrats are talking about as applied to immigration. But
Speaker 2: that not the case. You wouldn't have the DSA people
Speaker 2: talking about abolishing and ice or running around complaining about
Speaker 2: US enforcement. And that is a great tragedy because they're
Speaker 2: in position to do damage to the nation by being
Speaker 2: the new Democrats in significant numbers, and it's getting worse.
Speaker 1: Every day, Hanks shein Coff. Earlier this week, John Fetterman proudly,
Speaker 1: proudly met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Ninsanya, who called
Speaker 1: himself the conscious of the party, says he doesn't understand
Speaker 1: why they've turned on Israel, but Hank, I have to say,
Speaker 1: one voice among other people who are good but quiet,
Speaker 1: is a conscience. One voice among people who are violently
Speaker 1: evil is a hostage. And I think John Fetterman is
Speaker 1: a hostage.
Speaker 2: I think that's entirely true, and that's a good analogy.
Speaker 2: John Fetterman's made a decision about where he thinks his
Speaker 2: conscience ought to be. He understands international politics a lot
Speaker 2: better than most of the Democrats do. He understands that
Speaker 2: for the present situation of the United States finds itself
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, particularly with the respect Israel. It's
Speaker 2: a position that Harry Truman's taked out frankly in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty eight with the Truman Doctor, without mentioning Israel at all.
Speaker 2: But he knew that in order to protect the market interests,
Speaker 2: he had to have access, onset of access, and control
Speaker 2: to setstead of the Mediterranean Basin. That's why Truman propped
Speaker 2: up Greece in Turkey. The United States in a similar
Speaker 2: position today. If it loses the military power and control
Speaker 2: of that portion of the Mediterranean Basin, Israel disappears. You know,
Speaker 2: ten years down the road, the Americans will be lucky.
Speaker 2: We can find food. I mean, the danger coming out
Speaker 2: of the Muslim world, not all of it, but some
Speaker 2: of it's certainly in North Africa historically is in the
Speaker 2: Middle East is very significant, and I don't think the
Speaker 2: Americans want to even begin to think about that.
Speaker 1: We have a mayor here. You know, we were talking
Speaker 1: off the air, Michael Cohen, John Casmantiiti's and I before
Speaker 1: the show began, and to different degrees, we agreed. It
Speaker 1: feels like a line has finally been crossed by this
Speaker 1: mayor in the last ten days or so where there's
Speaker 1: some awareness of whatever swing vote there is. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about the people who are always going to vote
Speaker 1: from always not going to vote for him, but I
Speaker 1: feel like in the last ten days or so, either
Speaker 1: with this pieditary attacks or with the attacks, you know,
Speaker 1: the anti Semitic attack on the Jewish Fast Day ten
Speaker 1: days ago, or so it feels like we've reached a
Speaker 1: he's crossed over to a point now where I think
Speaker 1: he's in big trouble.
Speaker 2: Do you agree. I think it's too early to declare
Speaker 2: him in big trouble. You know, anti Semitism is a
Speaker 2: fine thing. You know, people don't mind what you do ultimately,
Speaker 2: and New York is an unusual place. He's We've al
Speaker 2: we've always tolerated within a bigotry among our groups. In
Speaker 2: this city's dynamic, it's populated dynamic, it's economic dynamic, and
Speaker 2: much of it is changing very rapidly. He's a mayor
Speaker 2: in trouble. He's loved for his attacks on landlords. He's
Speaker 2: loved for his attacks on the Jews by certain portions
Speaker 2: of the population. Nobody sees him in a way that
Speaker 2: we see him right now. He's a bigot. He's an
Speaker 2: anti semi. He's always been that. His obsession with liberation theory,
Speaker 2: which says that anything related to Europe in any way
Speaker 2: must be extinguished outside the United States or even in
Speaker 2: the United States itself. It implies colonialism. It's something that
Speaker 2: he learned from his father and from people like Rashid
Speaker 2: Khaledi and Edward said and other screwballs. So you have
Speaker 2: his father's written a book by the way, that there's
Speaker 2: axtole to some extent that idiot mean who was a killer,
Speaker 2: well known and murdered thousands, maybe millions for all we know.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about someone as a particular viewpoint in
Speaker 2: the world that's not going to change very wrap, very
Speaker 2: very easily, if at all, And it's hiding who he
Speaker 2: really is in some of his daily behavior. If you
Speaker 2: look at the DSA platform, he's tried to run away
Speaker 2: from it, but that's where he comes from. The DSA
Speaker 2: platform multiply calls for the creation of a polet Burero
Speaker 2: in the United States, where you abolish the Senate, you
Speaker 2: abolish the Supreme Court, you get rid of the Secretary
Speaker 2: of Defense, you open the prisons, you get rid of it,
Speaker 2: you open the get rid of cops. Then the pole
Speaker 2: Buro then is that people's assembly that will effectively then
Speaker 2: do what every other pol heuro has ever done throughout history,
Speaker 2: which is kill everybody they get their hands with. So
Speaker 2: that's what we're heading unless he stopped.
Speaker 1: Well, isn't that Another argument I'm making, Hank Shinkoff, is
Speaker 1: that it isn't about a policy or a political change
Speaker 1: that they're looking for. It's actually the means are the end.
Speaker 1: You know, he's already won, Mom, Donnie by frightening older
Speaker 1: people with these messages about getting attacks, by frightening the
Speaker 1: Jewish community. Here the resentment, the pain, the violence. You know,
Speaker 1: the Communists won in Russia, not when they took over
Speaker 1: and created a pola Buro, but when they killed the
Speaker 1: czar and they killed his wife and his children, and
Speaker 1: his nieces and his nephews. That's what they want. It's
Speaker 1: not about a policy, it's about the violence and the killing.
Speaker 2: The policy is a cover up. You're right, to some
Speaker 2: extent what they wanted, but the Russians there was Communists
Speaker 2: didn't win until frankly, they were able to start murdering people,
Speaker 2: and they murdered the first way of supporters, and Stalin
Speaker 2: did it very well. Lenin started it. You murder those
Speaker 2: who brought you the power. Hitler did it in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty four at the Knight of the Long Knives when
Speaker 2: he killed Ernest Rome and the heads of the stormtroopers
Speaker 2: who had brought into power. That's what the future holds,
Speaker 2: and less Americans begin to wake up, because that's who
Speaker 2: these people are. He is the friendly face of a
Speaker 2: new fascism.
Speaker 3: So, hey, I got to ask you this. I gotta
Speaker 3: ask you this. So DSA seems to be expanding throughout
Speaker 3: this country. It's not just mom Donnie. Yes, as a
Speaker 3: New Yorker, we understand Mam Donnie. But it's all over
Speaker 3: the country. Now, this DSA movement is rising. How do
Speaker 3: we stop it?
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is, you know, Michael, it's an important question.
Speaker 2: It is a national phenomena. You have a generation of
Speaker 2: people who have not put a callous on their hands,
Speaker 2: who have no idea what it means to really be
Speaker 2: without They're the most over educated mhm generation they've in history.
Speaker 2: They've eaten more regularly than anybody else in history. They yes,
Speaker 2: the housing is an issue, no question about it. But
Speaker 2: they're housed right at tremendous costs and that needs to
Speaker 2: be dealt with. And they they have no sense about
Speaker 2: the future whatsoever they have they have. They are aggrieved
Speaker 2: for halls to reasons, some of the agreements, some of
Speaker 2: the a grievances. They have a right. I mean, the
Speaker 2: tax system stinks. It needs to be fixed one way
Speaker 2: or another.
Speaker 3: Tax system has always stun I'm not arguing.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that. I'm telling you what is right now.
Speaker 2: They have a beef about that that's legitimate. They've been
Speaker 2: educated to believe that anything again, that is that that
Speaker 2: any human being who is that all pigmented skin is
Speaker 2: somehow more superior than others because they've been wounded by
Speaker 2: by history and by colonialism, and they don't They've never
Speaker 2: had a tough day. I mean, they've never have never
Speaker 2: borne a burden to protect this democracy. I mean, what
Speaker 2: have they done? Too much?
Speaker 1: Too much complain and see Hank Schinkoff. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: We're never going to have a perfect meritocracy, but lots
Speaker 1: of luck living in a society that says we're not
Speaker 1: even gonna try.
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