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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to men, sex and tantra.

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<v Speaker 2>Discover where your parents, porn and religion never taught you

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<v Speaker 2>about being a man and having extraordinary sex. Get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to have your mind blown and your world rocked. We

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<v Speaker 2>are back and I still have Jay Matthias Bennett, the

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<v Speaker 2>one and only JAYI has been it with us back

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<v Speaker 2>and this topic such a favorite of everybody. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a sarcastic thing that I just said, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would think that vulnerability probably the least favorite topic for

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of men on the planet. You can remember it. It

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<v Speaker 2>goes something like this, You've just had this uncomfortable, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of raw conversation with your partner, and your partner just

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<v Speaker 2>is like emoting and having that back to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you realize she looks like she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to have sex, and you're kind of like, WHOA

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<v Speaker 2>hold up here, I just like laid myself out here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the last thing I want to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to run for the I want to go like

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<v Speaker 2>watch football or do something like completely like but no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not all this stuff. I get it that stereotypical. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of the men that are listening to this probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way, or maybe do in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think every single one of us has a

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling on vulnerability for sure, and pushing those envelopes, pushing

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<v Speaker 2>that edge can be scary and uncomfortable. You can have

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<v Speaker 2>physical symptoms like feeling sick. So many different things coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with this. But though every single person really, since

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<v Speaker 2>they want to belong, and since they want to be seen,

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<v Speaker 2>and since they want to be known and want to

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<v Speaker 2>be heard, somehow though we are holding back from the

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<v Speaker 2>very thing that we want.

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<v Speaker 1>What say you, Matthias, Well, it's hard to disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I as you may be where I think I actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think i'd mentioned in the last episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>probably by the time you listen to this, I will

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<v Speaker 3>have sent the manuscript off for the second time to

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<v Speaker 3>my editor on my upcoming book Leading from Courageous Vulnerability,

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<v Speaker 3>the Nine Leadership Lessons to consciously co Create Change.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>Vulnerability I think is in and to clarify in this context,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, quite, you know, simply emotional vulnerability where

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<v Speaker 3>you are not necessarily to everyone, to people who are trusted,

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<v Speaker 3>who have who have demonstrated a.

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<v Speaker 1>A level of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ability that they can hold whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 3>want to share. So I would not recommend necessarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just saying a bunch of stuff that's vulnerable publicly per

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<v Speaker 3>se just to say it. But I think if an

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<v Speaker 3>as someone shares vulnerably, then one of the things is

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<v Speaker 3>is that that creates connection. And actually I think that

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<v Speaker 3>that's a quote from Brene Brown, who obviously has spoken

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<v Speaker 3>wrote a lot about vulnerability, is vulnerability is required for connection,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's no surprise if after a vulnerable moment,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say with a partner, she's like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like feeling really turned on. Brene also has this

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<v Speaker 3>term that in that scenario that you described, Tanya' is like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh man, I feel nauseous. That would be an example

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<v Speaker 3>of a vulnerability hangover. Of course, in this case, hangover

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<v Speaker 3>is in quotes, but there's you know, there there still

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<v Speaker 3>is a chemical a chemical thing that's happening, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>just like, oh my gosh, like what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>And part of this dynamic is is that you it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, I guess what's coming to mind about how

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<v Speaker 3>to describe that? Is like sharing a truth that is

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<v Speaker 3>deeply important to you. But part of that context is

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<v Speaker 3>is that you actually don't know how that's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be received from that other person.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe it the whole thing might just totally blow

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<v Speaker 3>up in your face, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that and and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Really is is is uh, you know, is taking a risk. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean you can't make calculated risks or and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think it's definitely a skill that many people,

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<v Speaker 3>especially I would say, in the Western world, and leaders

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<v Speaker 3>could do more of and just so that they are

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<v Speaker 3>able to, yeah, just better connect with the people that

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<v Speaker 3>they care about in their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, so I have a couple of things around that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said, you know somebody that's relatively like trusted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're not just going to be vulnerable out

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<v Speaker 2>in the public world. I want to note that on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, I am vulnerable to freaking everybody that listens

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<v Speaker 2>to this damn thing. So here's what I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say about trusted safety. One, there is no person that

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<v Speaker 2>is one hundred percent trustworthy. People are trustworthy till they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just how life is. There is no getting

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<v Speaker 2>around that. So what I determinedly and earlier in my

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<v Speaker 2>life was that if I trusted myself back to the

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<v Speaker 2>four pillars of self love. So by committing or creating

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<v Speaker 2>self trust, I trust the fact that if I am

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable and it doesn't get received, if I am vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets used against me, if I am vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>and it creates chaos, I will survive. I will be

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<v Speaker 2>okay because I trust myself to know that ultimately I

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<v Speaker 2>am the holder of all my safety. I am the

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<v Speaker 2>person I have to trust the most. I am the

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<v Speaker 2>person I have to respect the most, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to love myself the most. And when I have those

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<v Speaker 2>things in place, it is amazing how I am able

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<v Speaker 2>to move in the world. That doesn't make it less scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that makes it more scary because quite frankly, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I trust you, and I throw

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<v Speaker 2>all my trust there and it's like you're gonna hold

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<v Speaker 2>that container perfectly never a minute will you not be trustory,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like ridiculous. I mean, I am undoubtedly most people

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<v Speaker 2>would say I am the most trustworthy person you could

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<v Speaker 2>probably ever say anything vulnerable to until I'm fucking not. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that not looks like, but I

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<v Speaker 2>use the story of my horse this amazing horse, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would take him out to, you know, a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of grass anywhere. We were at a showground wherever, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would drop his lead rope out there, like he's free.

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<v Speaker 2>He just dropped out there to eat grass. And people

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<v Speaker 2>would walk by and they'd go, wow, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>train him to do that? And I said, he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>there till he isn't. I have no idea what could

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<v Speaker 2>set him off one day to decide that he was

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<v Speaker 2>more scared of the thing than he was interested in

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<v Speaker 2>eating the grass. Okay, So from my perspective, waiting to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe find somebody safe, waiting to feel like whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's going to take you a lot longer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know there's risk assess when I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, business people will say makes you imagine walking

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<v Speaker 2>in and being vulnerable to your staff and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden you're not quote unquote inauthority anymore. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many ways that we do. Yeah, jump in your I

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<v Speaker 2>can see you, like, you should see his face. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like yes, and then he's like wait, wait, let me talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Go sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and maybe maybe that's a reason why I

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<v Speaker 3>just totally love you. Tanya, because both of us, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, have that quality and characteristic of a high

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<v Speaker 3>level of trust and a high level of vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what that does is.

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<v Speaker 3>That when you have two people with a high level

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<v Speaker 3>of trust and a high level of vulnerability, actually a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of shit can get done really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>It is amazing. A lot of clarity, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>clarity happens, a lot of like resonance happens. Absolutely, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're cutting through years of fucking most people. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the average couple it's seven years before they

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<v Speaker 2>completely reveal it themselves. Seven freaking years before somebody says

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<v Speaker 2>something that's really like them vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. Yeah, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 3>So I even as I was kind of sharing that,

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost hmm, yeah, I how do I how

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<v Speaker 3>do I put this? Maybe I wanted to have it

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<v Speaker 3>be accessible for somebody, you know, if you're listening where

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh man, this idea of vulnerability, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's totally crazy, you know, to start to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>tytrate yourself into it. Once you've been doing it actually

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, then then you then it's actually not

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<v Speaker 3>difficult or not as difficult to kind of do what

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<v Speaker 3>Tanya is talking about, and that also I do as

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<v Speaker 3>a natural extension of my being as well. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think in a certain way what we're talking about and

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<v Speaker 3>how Tanya is talking and sharing is like that is

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<v Speaker 3>part of the the if you want to call it fruit,

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<v Speaker 3>or part of what you could look forward to. Is

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<v Speaker 3>having a level of vulnerability is oh my gosh, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I have the possibility and potential to go really really

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<v Speaker 3>deep with.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, there could be possibilities and opportunities that

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<v Speaker 3>could open up that you could never even even conceive

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<v Speaker 3>of or even dream of before you meet this person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there are people listening that are like, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather go to the dentist and now have all my

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<v Speaker 2>freaking teeth pulled than stuff into the space of fucking

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability and and you know what, here, here's where I

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<v Speaker 2>want to, like, I want to if there's a woman

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this, let's get real here. You women want

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<v Speaker 2>men to be vulnerable. We hear it all the fucking time, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want him to be vulnerable with me, to

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<v Speaker 2>share it, and then you would you know what, most

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<v Speaker 2>women do, you fucking emasculate the shit out of your

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<v Speaker 2>man when he does that. So I is where I

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<v Speaker 2>get pissed at women and I call them out in

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<v Speaker 2>my couple stuff and it's like, you know, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to do this, be this, oh that,

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<v Speaker 2>And then he shows up and he does that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're all like, oh are you crying? Oh wait, do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel weak? I mean so, or you use it

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<v Speaker 2>against him. Worst thing ever, somebody gets vulnerable with you

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<v Speaker 2>and then you weaponize that. Shit like that is the

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<v Speaker 2>anti kindness. That is the anti woke, That is the

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<v Speaker 2>anti I have. Every fucking thing you can do is

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<v Speaker 2>like literally take somebody's soft underbelly and like shred it

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<v Speaker 2>open because you're scared of what it means they're vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what that's. Somebody gets vulnerable with you and

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<v Speaker 2>you use that against them. I want you to feel

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<v Speaker 2>fucking guilty right now. You don't need to feel clean

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<v Speaker 2>because that's cyclical. Shame is stupid, but I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to feel guilty. I want you to feel this. I

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<v Speaker 2>am calling you the fuck out for the man or woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop that shit. There's just never a reason to do

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<v Speaker 2>that to anybody. And uh, that's why. Also, you're scared

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<v Speaker 2>because if you've done that to other people, you are

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<v Speaker 2>scared to death to get vulnerable because you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>that done to you. So let's just let's all clean

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<v Speaker 2>that shit up. So that was a vulnerable statement from

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<v Speaker 2>Tanya to you. But okay, yeah, why are we so afraid?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we so afraid of the very thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get us known, belonged, seen, understood, clarity,

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<v Speaker 2>all the beautiful things that we could want. Why the

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<v Speaker 2>hell is that so scary?

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<v Speaker 1>What arises for me right now? Is an answer to

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of people, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>How How many words is that? But like five words?

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<v Speaker 1>But like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we you know, in a certain way, this

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<v Speaker 3>Know, right, get vulnerable or even you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of like social moras and things like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's uh, it's crazy, as you know, as you know, Tanya,

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<v Speaker 3>what's immediately coming to my mind is is a dear friend,

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<v Speaker 3>Nicole Ddon, who you know, was was declared guilty for

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote conspiracy to commit forced labor, and she pioneered

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is is that it's like, in a

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<v Speaker 3>rejection from society, and and how how powerful is like

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<v Speaker 3>can society's reaction be quote unquote of the system, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when when you literally like put it all out there unapologetically.

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<v Speaker 2>which is like I am finally writing, Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>So I have been holding back, I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has their edge. How far are they willing to go?

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<v Speaker 2>And For most people, I am like so vulnerable. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>And so've I ride that edge. But everybody has that

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<v Speaker 2>little piece or two or thing they get up against it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh so one of the most epic

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I am who I am, and the most

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<v Speaker 2>epic things I've ever done in my life are things

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<v Speaker 2>that I have never shared with anybody. There are things

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<v Speaker 2>that I've literally never said to a living person of

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<v Speaker 2>row close whatever, never have come from my lips. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a book I need to write and I've needed

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<v Speaker 2>to write it for thirty years. Well maybe I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>write it till now, but whatever it is, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a book that makes me feel like when I put

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<v Speaker 2>it out there, there is going to be rejection. I

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<v Speaker 2>am known as practical strategy. You know, land the Plane,

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<v Speaker 2>the most practical woo woo person anybody knows whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of my clients are super smart. They come

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<v Speaker 2>to me for strategy, tell them what to do, get

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<v Speaker 2>it done, let's do it. And I'm about to put

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<v Speaker 2>out a book that really pretty well blows the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>roof off of that shit in a different way. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have tried to start this, and I have tried

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<v Speaker 2>to start this, and partly with Matthias's help. Here I

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<v Speaker 2>am five freaking chapters into this thing, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>feeling the discomfort. I am feeling the almost want to

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<v Speaker 2>throw up pieces and even more than the ten song

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<v Speaker 2>album I just put out this year, I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>do every year I do something brand new. This year

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<v Speaker 2>it was create ten songs, never written songs, never done

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<v Speaker 2>music for him, blah blah blah. Put that out in

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<v Speaker 2>the first one I put out. I was so scared.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. I mean, but that was a great scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put this out. People are gonna hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, doesn't matter. Okay, this is bigger than this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like the biggest vulnerabilities piece that I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>done is this book. But so I stepped in. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this. Find your edge. So anything you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say about that other than your breathing, he's breathing

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<v Speaker 2>for me here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, you're kind of inspiring me to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>do a similar similar share.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh and and I did do a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of this before, but Basically it has to do with.

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<v Speaker 1>An alter ego of mine yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep yep uh and uh and his name is Hans

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<v Speaker 3>uh and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So hello, I am Hans.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a black sheep from one of the setting

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<v Speaker 4>ruling families of the Van So I'm originally from Austria.

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<v Speaker 4>But I have this this desire and commitment to create

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<v Speaker 4>the new s s S the selfish jep society. So

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to embrace your deepest desires for yourself

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<v Speaker 4>on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're into that kind of thing. I am not.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I My vision is to decentralize the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think those of us that are in control,

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<v Speaker 1>they would like to go the centralization, right. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not believe this. I do not think we are in

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<v Speaker 1>the webs three era. We must evolve. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for charing. We are laying down the better

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<v Speaker 2>ability here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, So and you know's and you know as

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<v Speaker 3>as me and Matthiasis hands is basically like what I

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<v Speaker 3>what I call service to all in service to self.

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<v Speaker 3>You may have heard of the terms from let's say

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<v Speaker 3>law of one channel material from from raw uh and

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<v Speaker 3>so essentially there's as a kind of negatively polarized per

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<v Speaker 3>person or being or service to self. Hans can say

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<v Speaker 3>certain things about deep spiritual topics that I couldn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>say or say in that in that way and.

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<v Speaker 1>Say in a humorous way.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course the idea is is that whatever

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<v Speaker 3>advice I give, if somebody does that, actually what that

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<v Speaker 3>would serve is to help raise consciousness regardless. Sorry, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's that's part of the that is parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, so whether or not you're leading from your

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<v Speaker 2>own personal vulnerability or you're creating an author ego for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I like, I like the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of that. I mean, you know, when people role play,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit of that kind of thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>when stepping out of their normal kind of space allows

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<v Speaker 2>them to maybe do things that feel more vulnerable or

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<v Speaker 2>edgy than they would, you know, being themselves quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, and you could have no, you could

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<v Speaker 2>be totally vulnerable in one area and completely locked up

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<v Speaker 2>in another area. And so when you're looking at your

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability quotient or what would we call that your vulnerability level?

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<v Speaker 2>What what would we call your vulnerability?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, vulnerability level seems kind of as good

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<v Speaker 3>as good as a descriptor as anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably, so I need to create this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think so the vulnerability level, like you can assess yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and your vulnerability on certain on the ladder or certain areas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was told a long time ago never to be

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable in a coaching call. I tell stories about myself

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. What my clients say is, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like I know you, and so their

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<v Speaker 2>trust level rises. They'll tell me stuff they wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. The podcast is a perfect example. You all

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<v Speaker 2>that listen to me or like, man, should I know

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<v Speaker 2>more about you than I ever not needed to? Yeah? Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>use it for good. My housemate, my new housemate, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah. He had to take a moment because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down there talking about my sex machine that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought this sex machine because people kept asking me

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever tried one? And I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old daughter put it together for me.

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<v Speaker 2>because your hands are better, haven't used it? Sat on

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<v Speaker 2>the dining room table. My housemate walks in to look

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<v Speaker 2>at this thing, thinks, hmm, is it for her daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it for her? Is this being monetized? And then

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, yeah, that's what it's like to live in

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<v Speaker 2>this household and just walked on by. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's looking at me for a moment and then

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<v Speaker 2>he realizes, Oh, this is what it means to live

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<v Speaker 2>with Tanya. Basically, everything is talked about. Everything is talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>but with consent. If I have a partner or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm not revealing those kind of things. But

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to me, I think the more vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>I am, the more people feel more normalized. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>I lead the way just having you know, conversations in

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I have outrageous conversations in every place there is,

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<v Speaker 2>could say that, or you know, my Facebook posts recently

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<v Speaker 2>all stories about my life. You know, I'm just throwing

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<v Speaker 2>that shit out there, and people are resonating with that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you put into words what I never could.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe they're taking that and that's inspiring them or

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<v Speaker 2>enabling some courage, yes, to get out there. So and

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<v Speaker 2>then if you resonate like what we were talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>you find somebody that actually resonates on that, that actually

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<v Speaker 2>can go there with you. It's like serious freaking magic

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not shielding, like having to break through your

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that the energy that it takes to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get heard or you know, try to all of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is this takes so much energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it takes energy to shield. It takes your

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<v Speaker 3>So if you take you know, imagine like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>modem right versus.

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<v Speaker 1>A T one line. So do you want the sixty

424
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<v Speaker 1>four k bod.

425
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<v Speaker 3>Modem of information and experience that's going between you and

426
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<v Speaker 3>the world or you and other people, or do you.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Want that you got that in fifteen firewalls up.

428
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<v Speaker 3>Right right and and then or do you want the

429
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<v Speaker 3>T one line respectively and and you know that's in

430
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<v Speaker 3>a certain way, like that's how, that's how in a

431
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>certain way, like and I guess what comes to mind is,

432
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<v Speaker 3>you know, like very well known people who really let

433
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<v Speaker 3>out their inner genius, people like Robin Williams or Jim

434
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<v Speaker 3>Carrey where they are they really like reveal parts of themselves.

435
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 3>And you you know, like you're saying, like, uh, you know,

436
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 3>for you, like it's you can you you were experiencing

437
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>the fruit and the benefit of just being so so

438
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 3>authentically raw and real. And the thing is is that

439
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, this whole thing altered, you know, Hans a

440
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a deeper cut cut on that figuratively

441
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<v Speaker 3>and literally.

442
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Is the genesis by the way.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the genesis of the Hans story is back in

444
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and nine. And I was I had this

445
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<v Speaker 3>kind of sketch. I didn't haunt the name Hans, didn't

446
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 3>drop in, but this sketch that I was coming about

447
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>this kind of series of jokes from this kind of perspective,

448
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and I was like totally laughing my head off.

449
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I.

450
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Felt the most creative I'd ever felt in my entire life.

451
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 3>And I was kind of rehearsing this stuff in front

452
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<v Speaker 3>of the bathroom mirror, and then I felt I had

453
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 3>this sense that something was kind of watching me, something

454
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 3>like a spiritual like I was being watched. And I

455
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 3>got that sense. I'm like, ah no, don't worry about it.

456
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<v Speaker 3>Next day there was this unusual cat. It was a

457
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<v Speaker 3>regular cat, but I didn't see it before. And he

458
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 3>came up and I, oh, a pet, pet pet, and

459
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 3>then it bit me on the finger. It did not

460
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 3>break the skin, but that basically started led to an

461
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 3>experience where I was in the hospital for five days.

462
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 3>My hand right hand swelled up, went into my arm.

463
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>It felt like it was an alternating between plunging and

464
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 3>boiling water and getting slammed in a door. And then

465
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 3>that went down and I actually was going to get

466
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>skin graft surgery. I was inspired. I kind of felt

467
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>like I shouldn't get it. Two months later, the doctor said, hey,

468
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.279
<v Speaker 3>if you see tendon, come on back, and I was like, okay,

469
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 3>long short.

470
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Meaning that his finger was like deteriorating.

471
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, yeah, so long story short. Two years two

472
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 3>months later I saw tendon.

473
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I went back.

474
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 3>I finally got the surgery, and and you know that

475
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 3>that was like in a certain way, the genesis or

476
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 3>or some of the if you will, I think fallout

477
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 3>of of that that feeling creative. I have no doubt

478
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>that there was some type of malevolent spiritual influence that

479
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 3>that that had to do with that cat coming and

480
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 3>biting my finger in the subsequent events, because I've had

481
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 3>similar things previous like this, so you know, I'm it's yeah,

482
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>so this is kind of like personal and close to home,

483
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 3>and also.

484
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>The whole idea of of.

485
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Really sharing stuff with humor, because it's like, if there's

486
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 3>one thing that evil cannot stand, it's humor.

487
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Hm. Oh, this must be why they, you know, stay

488
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 2>out of my zone most of the time.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Right right, because you get it's like, oh, you know,

490
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 3>like if you if you resist, if you're like, we

491
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 3>are going to create a revolution against you evil, and

492
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>then oh, no problem, please bring it at you, you know, come,

493
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 3>come bring it.

494
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And then but if you're like, oh, you wouldn't want

495
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to laugh at you, it's like no, I'm important.

496
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 3>Really we can't understand this, you know, I mean, then

497
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 3>you can see the emperor truly has no clothes because obviously,

498
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 3>well not maybe not obviously to most people, but those

499
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 3>that are quote unquote in power, or they appear to

500
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>be in power really are largely there because of the

501
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>illusion of power.

502
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Mhm.

503
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>And and I think it was Gandhi that said, when

504
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 3>the people lead, the leaders will follow.

505
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, yeah, don't think about that. And when people when

506
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 2>the people lead with when the people lead, the leaders

507
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>will follow. Yeah, well, how should they not be given

508
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>the fact, you know, yeah, if you do so. I

509
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>always think if you do not like the political climate

510
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of something, I want you to know that you're the

511
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>cause of it. Is kind of that because we're anti leading,

512
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna let other people lead us into spaces, or

513
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>we're like supporting all that stuff, right, which goes into

514
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 2>an entirely different topic. You know. The one thing with

515
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 2>theist as I can do is pretty well arranged some

516
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 2>radically different topics in one conversation. So I'm actually proud

517
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 2>of both those. We're like staying pretty succact.

518
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'll tie it in.

519
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I'll tie it in too, just because, let's say, in

520
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>that larger scale, you know, let's say, on a societal level,

521
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 3>if somebody like the powers that be whatever that looks like,

522
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 3>are banking on.

523
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>You not saying anything right there and so and so.

524
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Then that actually ties into the importance of vulnerability, of

525
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 3>really standing up and saying, hey, you know, whatever it is,

526
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 3>whether it's on a personal standpoint, whether it's on a

527
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, a social standpoint.

528
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well look at you. Thank you, the artfulice,

529
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>artfully together, save by the ball. All right, So vulnerability

530
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 2>we're wrapping up this episode. Uh, it's a you know,

531
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I will say since my one of my number one

532
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 2>values is courage, that that is why I can step

533
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>into that space. It's not that I'm not scared. There

534
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>are times I share things that I'm like, i feel

535
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>like I'm so grim. I'm standing on the edge of

536
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the freaking cliff and I'm so gripped, and I'm like,

537
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>just fucking job, you know, Like that is what I

538
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>have to do. Sometimes throw myself off the cliff before

539
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I can think. There's the five second rule that and

540
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>her name is like now just mysteriously disappeared out of

541
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>my brain. But if you look up five second rule,

542
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>you'll find the woman who coin that, And it's like,

543
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you have five seconds to do something before you feel

544
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>something that keeps you from doing it. Mel Robbins, and

545
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>so five second rule. So sometimes when I'm faced with

546
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>that vulnerable moment, when I know that I can go there,

547
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't give myself the five seconds. I jump off

548
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the cliff in two and then I think about the

549
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 2>repercussions of it on the way down. And has that

550
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>gotten me into trouble? Sometimes? I don't know. It depends

551
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>what you consider trouble. Has that lost me things before? Absolutely?

552
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Has that been misinterpreted used against me? Yes, more times

553
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>than I can count. But I'm never going to stop

554
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>because part of my mission is showing up and inspiring

555
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>by showing by actually walking the talk and not just

556
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, but literally doing the thing. Is part

557
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 2>of my mission. My purpose is leading that courageous way

558
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and showing other people that that you can do that

559
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and you're not going to die. Well maybe you'll die,

560
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>but you know that's a different story. So I say

561
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>that if you want to practice vulnerability first, you're going

562
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to be fucking uncomfortable. You just have to know that

563
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the way it is. And it's a practice, like confidence,

564
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.319
<v Speaker 2>like everything else. You train that part of your brain

565
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and your body to just say I'm going to say

566
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 2>this thing. Yes, yes, you could stand to lose who

567
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>knows what. But the reality is by keeping it back,

568
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>by not leading in that space, you lose so much

569
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>more you don't even know. So yeah, loss is part

570
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>of life. Rejection is part of life. I love to

571
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>get rejected as fast as possible. Boom.

572
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You know.

573
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>The one hundred and fifty dates I did in one

574
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>month was all about me sitting at a dinroom table

575
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and getting rejected as fast as I fucking could lay

576
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 2>out the most horrifict thing I could say, watch them walk,

577
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and that was a great practice for me. So practice

578
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>leaning into those things. Start small. It's okay to start small,

579
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Start to build it up, say something a little edge.

580
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to lay it all out there, but

581
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you have to practice. You have to. You can't wait

582
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>to be ready. It's a practice. So you do it.

583
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Start small, keep doing it, keep leaning in. Put a container.

584
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>If you're with your partner and you want to practice vulnerability,

585
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>literally set up the container. You're going to have a

586
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>two minute timer. Right. The container is, hey, babe, I

587
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>want to unless she hates the word babe or he

588
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 2>hates So we're going to do a two minute container

589
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>of vulnerability. We're going to set a timer. I'm going

590
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to say something I haven't said or feels edg to me,

591
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but we're not going to process it. When that timer

592
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>goes off. Game over, that's it. I'm gonna step away.

593
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna step away. Whatever. Take your time, take your space,

594
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>get get back to what you need to be grounded.

595
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>But that's the only way you gotta start. You gotta

596
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 2>do it. And why because wow, just let me tell

597
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you what you're You don't know what you're missing, but

598
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it's a lot. The thias. What do

599
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you have for the people listening? What can add to that?

600
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Or m hm hmm, yeah, yeah, there is boy that

601
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 3>they're so, they're so, there's so much. I mean in

602
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 3>a certain way, I would say in addition to because

603
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.199
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to be vulnerable with other people if you're

604
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 3>not actually vulnerable with yourself.

605
00:35:58.559 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 2>First love that.

606
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 1>So one simple exercise would be to would be to.

607
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, if there's I think about some some area

608
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 3>that you have discomfort around, and just do some journaling,

609
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 3>do some journaling about what you think, what you feel.

610
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 3>If it's if an area that it's important to you,

611
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's a goal, maybe maybe it's a relationship or

612
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 3>something like that, and just like right down like all

613
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>the things that maybe you're afraid of, maybe you feel

614
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>that that could.

615
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Go wrong, or.

616
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like all of those kind of negative scenarios potential

617
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 3>scenarios that are in the air maybe but it's in

618
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 3>the back of your mind and so that they're not

619
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 3>really actually fully expressed. And if they're not fully expressed,

620
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>then there's no really no way to kind of separate

621
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>yourself from there. Those are they just kind of in

622
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 3>there back. They're stewing, affecting your choices and decisions, but

623
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 3>in a way where you really can't distinguish how or

624
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 3>why they're affecting you and your decisions. So even just

625
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 3>as the first simple step choose that topic, take go

626
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 3>somewhere quiet where you won't be disturbed, ideally maybe in

627
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 3>nature or something like that, or even just in a

628
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 3>coffee shop somewhere or away from your normal place, and

629
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 3>just start writing. Just start get it right as much

630
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 3>do like a brain dump about much of those things,

631
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>just so that you can get it out on paper.

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<v Speaker 3>And then from there, once you've got it all on paper,

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably actually the hardest part. Then I would say

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<v Speaker 3>the next step is maybe to go and read through,

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<v Speaker 3>give it some space, maybe just go back to it

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<v Speaker 3>in a little bit, but go through and then ask yourself, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>each this how how realistic is this thing actually could

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<v Speaker 3>could happen this scenario? Or now that you've got it

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<v Speaker 3>on paper, okay, well, what's maybe something we could do

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<v Speaker 3>I could do to help help mitigate this or so

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<v Speaker 3>on and so forth. I think that's that that it

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<v Speaker 3>could be a really first helpful step at least just

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<v Speaker 3>to get it on paper so that then you can

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<v Speaker 3>have the separate outside of your head so you could

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<v Speaker 3>have a little bit more clarity about how to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that. I love that. And interestingly you

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<v Speaker 2>may or may not have have done that purposefully that

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<v Speaker 2>it leads into our next thing that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, which actually curious about the truth. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's pretty pretty brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks, and in two weeks we'll be talking about courage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So yeah, we've got we've got more stuff coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>and so just guys, get out there. People, get out there,

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<v Speaker 2>do your thing. I hope when you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>show that it isn't just a oh I'm listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this show, not implementing anything. I mean, yes, great entertainings. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>you know some of you have written and say I

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<v Speaker 2>just listened because of your voice. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. But really, to me, it's most important

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<v Speaker 2>is that you are actually implementing some things. Don't just

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<v Speaker 2>continue to consume information and input and input without ever

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<v Speaker 2>outputting because yeah, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do that, but and I'll just jump into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling inspired.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I totally agree, and seriously do that and then

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<v Speaker 3>just reach out, reach back, you know, reach out to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to hear how it goes. Yeah, I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to hear like your your response or you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you got any like questions or things that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, he'll get vulnerable with you. Maybe you'll get

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<v Speaker 2>Hans on the line. Then watch out, all right, LB

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<v Speaker 2>back
