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<v Speaker 4>Dix, It's the Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we don't have Tom Martino. We have Marco Bendinelli

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<v Speaker 5>Martino and Mark Major, who happened to be out. We

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<v Speaker 5>For over forty five years, Tom has been listening to

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<v Speaker 6>Now again, I am Marco Bendinelli.

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<v Speaker 5>I am pleased, honored, privileged to be filling in for

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<v Speaker 5>Tom and Mark. This is my first time doing this.

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<v Speaker 5>I am excited to be here. We have a great

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<v Speaker 5>show lined up for you today. We have a special

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<v Speaker 5>guest coming in in a couple hours, a former lieutenant

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<v Speaker 5>of the Aurora Police Department, Gary Millspaw, and he'll be

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<v Speaker 5>here to answer your questions, tell you some stories, and

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<v Speaker 5>it'll be, I'm sure, very exciting and interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, Marco, and I think one of the reasons it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be so entertaining is it's going to be

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<v Speaker 7>our first ever ask me anything session. So if any

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<v Speaker 7>of us, like me and like you who's a big

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<v Speaker 7>time lawyer, and any of our listeners have for I

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to ask a real cop with about fifty years

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<v Speaker 7>experience anything, how to get out of a ticket, How

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<v Speaker 7>do you know if they're going to write you a

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<v Speaker 7>ticket or give you a warning? How many donuts do

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<v Speaker 7>they really eat in the day? Man, this is the

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<v Speaker 7>day to start calling in.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you that sounds.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how exciting the donut question is, but

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<v Speaker 5>those other ones are relevant and interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, my name again is Marco Bendinelli.

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<v Speaker 5>I am an owner and founder of the Bendinelli Law Firm.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been a practicing lawyer since nineteen ninety five, which

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<v Speaker 5>some people would say that is thirty years. I would

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<v Speaker 5>say that makes me old, okay, but anyway, I experienced experience, right, tenured, mature.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>We can be found at COEO Law Firm dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>CEO like Colorado so wwwco Law Firm dot com. And

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<v Speaker 5>you can call my law firm if you need me

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<v Speaker 5>for any reason at I could be reached at one

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<v Speaker 5>eight hundred Attorney, one eight hundred Attorney. So if you

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<v Speaker 5>wonder if you have a case you need some legal advice,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a question for me, I can be reached there,

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<v Speaker 5>not today, but I can be reached at one eight

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<v Speaker 5>hundred attorney.

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<v Speaker 8>So Marco, will you pick up if somebody calls one

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<v Speaker 8>eight attorney?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I hope the line would be answered, but not

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<v Speaker 5>by me personally. But I am there. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>there forty hours a week. Even though I'm not a

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<v Speaker 5>young man. I love what I do. You know, we

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<v Speaker 5>have a personal injury law firm, and somewhat like Tom,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's a little different, but we help people,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and for thirty years. I've been in Colorado

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<v Speaker 5>since nineteen ninety seven, and I opened up in my basement. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>now we have about thirty people strong.

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<v Speaker 9>Now thirty people yet thirty people working for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>And we have attracted some of the best legal talent

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<v Speaker 6>And we help people, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So the premise when I opened up my law firm

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<v Speaker 5>was that we want to practice law with excellence, and

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<v Speaker 5>personal injury. So people that find themselves injured by the

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<v Speaker 5>negligence of another, they call us and.

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<v Speaker 6>We get them justice.

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<v Speaker 5>And unlike most law firms, we try more cases than

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<v Speaker 5>just about any other law firm in the state because

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<v Speaker 5>we don't allow our clients to be pushed around, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think we are different in that regard. We require justice,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, we don't sell our clients down the river.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we had a lot of trial experience and

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we do. I've actually set some records in

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<v Speaker 6>I have, Yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you tell us, Marco, Well, I'll tell.

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<v Speaker 5>You I have two seven figure verdicts within thirty days

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<v Speaker 5>of one another, and they were against big corporations. And

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, that's been verified by the Colorado Jury

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<v Speaker 5>Verdict Reporter, who is a service that keeps track of

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<v Speaker 5>I've set a record in that regard. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we we've we've we've accomplished some sizeable verdicts, and a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of those verdicts have come, you know, when the

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<v Speaker 5>insurance company has really been insulting our clients, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've had a lot of success.

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<v Speaker 8>So, Marco, I have a question on these successful verdicts.

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<v Speaker 8>Where these achieved by your firm actually going to trial.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's that is a verdict. Uh When you say verdict,

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<v Speaker 5>that means that it went to trial. Anything anything other

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<v Speaker 5>than that would be a settlement.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, that's a difference.

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<v Speaker 8>And I like the way that your firm actually it

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<v Speaker 8>takes is not a afraid to go to triut because

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<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of these personal injury attorneys that

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<v Speaker 8>I've talked to and dealt with, they're just more interested

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<v Speaker 8>in doing that backdoor settlement without really testing the waters

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<v Speaker 8>and going to trial because I know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 8>think a lot of PI attorn attorneys.

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<v Speaker 9>Just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 8>They just look for an easy, you know, conference call settlement.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true, and you know, and that does separate us.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, there's a lot of lawyers on television

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<v Speaker 5>and radio that you know that that are vuying for

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<v Speaker 5>your attention and your business. And but what the public

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't understand is that, like BO said, or Deputy by

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<v Speaker 5>But getting back to what I was saying, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of the general public don't understand that when you call

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<v Speaker 5>your case. But you know, you got to ask them,

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<v Speaker 6>Are you really doing pushback? You know, we have in

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<v Speaker 5>We have a litigation meeting every week every Wednesday. I

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<v Speaker 5>a heavy litigation calendar, and that's an indication that we

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, when I was a young, young lawyer

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<v Speaker 5>really looked up to that man. His name was Larry Lee.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a practicing attorney in Boulder, Colorado, and he

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent of your cases.

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<v Speaker 6>Are not made to settle.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what that meant to me is that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to have any to do personal injury practice,

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<v Speaker 5>personal injury law, and have any self respect, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you need to be trying cases. And I've been a

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<v Speaker 5>featured speaker at the Colorado Trial Lawyers Association annual convention.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, sometimes just in Steamboat or Veil or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>every August. And I've actually been honored to be asked

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<v Speaker 5>over over my career. And you know, at one point,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I said to the trial lawyers, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>we are the Colorado Trial Lawyers Association, and why is

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<v Speaker 5>it only fifteen or twenty percent of our membership is

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<v Speaker 5>actually trying cases? You know, it wasn't a popular message.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope, I hope I don't get any blow back

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<v Speaker 5>from saying that on the air, But you know it's true.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, you want to hire a lawyer when

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<v Speaker 5>you have an issue that really is a competent litigator.

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<v Speaker 5>Not that your case is guaranteed to go to trial,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're guaranteed that you know your lawyer is going

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<v Speaker 5>to push back and and you know, so there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of lawyers, like I said on the television, on

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<v Speaker 5>the radio, and but you know, insurance companies don't respect

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they don't respect settlement what meals?

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<v Speaker 5>M I l LS old mills Like okay, I understand, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like you know, like a Deputy Beau was saying,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they settle everything, and you know, obviously they're

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<v Speaker 5>not paying top dollar to those firms because they know

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<v Speaker 5>that they're not going to go to trial.

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<v Speaker 8>And well, Morco, wouldn't they like that if the insurance

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<v Speaker 8>company knows you're not going to trial, because that means

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<v Speaker 8>the settlement is going to potentially be a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Less well exactly exactly. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so the insurance companies keep a dossier on

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<v Speaker 5>every lawyer in the state, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It matters who your lawyer is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we've had I've had a seven figure verdict

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty four on a case that we were

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<v Speaker 5>offered like, you know, forty thousand dollars and we you know,

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<v Speaker 5>had a seven figure verdict. So anyway, Uh, so we

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<v Speaker 5>are looking for your calls. We are ready to answer

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<v Speaker 5>your questions. Uh three oh three Martino, that's three three

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<v Speaker 6>For a break, so we will be right back.

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<v Speaker 5>Anytime we are back. Uh, we have open lines. We

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<v Speaker 5>take the opportunity, give us a call three oh three

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<v Speaker 5>Martino or three oh three seven to one three talk.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Marco Bendinelli.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm filling in for Tom Martino and Mark Major, who

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<v Speaker 6>The studio today.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I am a lawyer and in Denver and

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<v Speaker 5>have been practicing for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes you know that's a double waged sword.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it inspires confidence because people know your experience,

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<v Speaker 6>So I'd rather be thirty five.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, at age thirty five you don't have

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<v Speaker 6>So you know it comes with the territory, Marco.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's if it's not inappropriate, I'd like to talk

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<v Speaker 7>to you about some of the torts that are committed,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, from your perspective as a plaintiff's injury lawyer,

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<v Speaker 7>some of the torts that are committed by minors.

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<v Speaker 7>parents are automatically financially responsible, regardless of insurance. But so,

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<v Speaker 7>for example, where I live, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>and they are absolutely driven recklessly on the sidewalks on

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<v Speaker 7>while stopped at a red light, I observed a scooter

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<v Speaker 7>and clearly did a lot of damage to the car.

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<v Speaker 7>The rider of the scooter miraculously seemed to be uninjured,

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<v Speaker 7>anybody run really, So what can the driver of this

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<v Speaker 7>Because you know, a lot of people don't have comp

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<v Speaker 7>What can this what can this driver do to have

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<v Speaker 6>If anything? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>the I don't know what you call.

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<v Speaker 6>Them scooters or things you stand on.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you see him downtown all the time, and

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<v Speaker 5>And and so uh, you know, my experience has been

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<v Speaker 5>from that angle. Now, as far as a victim of

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<v Speaker 6>Know, whether it's Lyft or what's the other one.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Lime, I think there's one, right, that's the one

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to think of, and anyway, I would

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<v Speaker 5>assume that they have liability, uh, some type of liability

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<v Speaker 5>you know, getting away from scooters. But but young people

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<v Speaker 5>causing accidents, are causing injuries. You are correct in that

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<v Speaker 5>a minor, the parents are responsible for the damages caused

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<v Speaker 5>by the minor. And so when we, for example, we

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<v Speaker 5>file a lawsuit, we have to include a special claim,

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<v Speaker 5>to plead that when you're filing a loss suit when

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<v Speaker 5>the vehicle was operated by a minor. But again, most

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<v Speaker 5>of our experience or exposure with the scooter stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if Lime and Lift and Uber has insurance

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<v Speaker 6>I would assume they would have to. You know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>But it also feels like their business model is kind

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<v Speaker 7>of reckless in the sense that they give this scooter

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<v Speaker 7>or one of those electric bicycles to anybody regardless of

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<v Speaker 7>their impairment. A lot of these people that I see

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<v Speaker 7>are I mean, they're clearly intoxicated. They're smoke coming out

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<v Speaker 7>of their mouth while they're riding. Now, Marco, if I

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<v Speaker 7>gave an electric scooter to somebody who go zoom down

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<v Speaker 7>the sidewalk who I know has been smoking dope, right,

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<v Speaker 7>he's eating funions, wouldn't I incurse some sort of a

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<v Speaker 7>liability in this manner?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's gonna be really hard to screen.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, well, you know, I was in Chicago one

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<v Speaker 5>time personally and I had to and I needed to

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, when you're.

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<v Speaker 5>the time or get an uber if you're going you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a half a mile away, and so it was really convenient,

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<v Speaker 5>and I downloaded the Lime app okay, and you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Guess that was there to shield them for some type

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<v Speaker 5>of liability. And you know, and I think that in

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<v Speaker 5>some ways, you assume the risk, you know, when you uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, download the app and run a scooter, you've

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<v Speaker 5>We have Margaret, she has an issue with one source

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<v Speaker 6>We got Jim. Oh, looks like Margaret ran out of patience.

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<v Speaker 5>Margaret ran out of patience, called back. Margaret called back.

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<v Speaker 5>You only were on hold a couple of minutes. But

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<v Speaker 5>we do have Jim. He has a question about being served.

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<v Speaker 5>So Jim, you need you.

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<v Speaker 6>Need to tighten up that that question a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Being served you mean served with a lawsuit or served liquor.

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<v Speaker 7>A margarita, served with a cold pizza.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, I told Kelly the situation, but it was a

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<v Speaker 12>convoluted story, am.

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<v Speaker 1>I on the air?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 12>So basically, my son got into a business disagreement with

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<v Speaker 12>a guy from New Jersey, right, okay, and uh my

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<v Speaker 12>a houis and call out of here. So he uh,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, they're trying to do the lawsuit here because

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<v Speaker 12>some of the the situation was was the packages that

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<v Speaker 6>Jim Jim, Jim, Jim Jim, you need to back up

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you need to explain to us a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>about this business dealing. You know, was your son of

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<v Speaker 5>Colorado resident? How old is your son? Who's this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this individual from New Jersey?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, he was eighteen when this happened. And technically he

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<v Speaker 6>But we live What state is he in?

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<v Speaker 12>He's in Florida and he has a place in Montana

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so he lives in Florida and the counterparty to

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<v Speaker 7>this business transaction is from New Jersey and you're in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, now I think we got the lay of the land. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>what kind of business?

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<v Speaker 12>So basically it's electronic whole selling.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, electronic whole selling.

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<v Speaker 12>Go ahead, Yeah, he sells electronic uh items, Well, he

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<v Speaker 6>So I wasn't home.

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<v Speaker 12>And a course server supposedly came by the house. There

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<v Speaker 12>was a lady working in my garage packing boxes, and

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<v Speaker 12>he walks out. He goes, I'm looking for blank, like blank,

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<v Speaker 12>which is my son, and she said, he doesn't live here.

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<v Speaker 12>He lives in Florida. He goes, well, we've tried to

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<v Speaker 12>He goes, well, you've been served. And he walked throws

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<v Speaker 6>And lease, okay, where where were you?

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<v Speaker 5>I was not in the house.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean you're in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I am in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>In Colorado, his son, who lives in Florida, was sounds like,

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<v Speaker 7>isn't this the definition of gutter service where you throw

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<v Speaker 7>the paperwork on the on the ground, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, so if someone refuses service, then you can do

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<v Speaker 5>that and uh, and then the process server fills that

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<v Speaker 5>an affid. David was called an affidavit of service.

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<v Speaker 12>What he was telling he was saying, well, I'll just

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<v Speaker 12>tell him because the person has I said, she asked,

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<v Speaker 12>who are you, what's your name, what's the company you

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Because I don't want you're.

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<v Speaker 12>Not gonna get any that. I'm just gonna file an

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<v Speaker 12>affidavit in the court that you've been served. Well, it

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<v Speaker 12>just says on the ground and leave, so you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So that would be that so that would be subject

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<v Speaker 5>to emotion to quash. And that's that's what we would

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<v Speaker 5>And okay, so when the when the court, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>answer is due, right, because you initiate a lawsuit with

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<v Speaker 5>something called a complaint and you have to serve that

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<v Speaker 7>So Jim, now what court is he being sued in?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it here in Colorado, Florida or New Jersey?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's Jefferson County.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, So Marco, if Jim's son files this motion

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<v Speaker 7>to quash right because of bad service, isn't he in

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<v Speaker 7>a fact admitting that, hey, he's aware of this legal

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<v Speaker 7>process that started against him and therefore he's obligated to respond.

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<v Speaker 7>Isn't that the entire point of serving somebody?

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<v Speaker 5>So look, you guys are starting off in the in

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<v Speaker 6>That's the deep end.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a little complicated because the.

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<v Speaker 5>Person that files the motion to quash the lawyer, he

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<v Speaker 5>he's not actually appearing.

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<v Speaker 6>To defend the laws.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally makes sense and so but anyway, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>to take another break and we'll be right back. And Jim,

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to stay on the line, go right ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>day on, Jim, I want to hear about the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

436
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<v Speaker 10>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 10>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 10>of insurance companies find out now three O three seven

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<v Speaker 10>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 10>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 10>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>We are back Marcco Bendinelli from Bendinelly Law Firm, filling

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<v Speaker 5>in or Tom Martino and Mark Major, who are not

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<v Speaker 5>in the studio today. We have a couple of lines open,

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<v Speaker 5>Jim still holding. We're going to get back to Jim.

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<v Speaker 5>But give us a call, UH, with any problems that

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<v Speaker 5>you have. We are here to listen to your complaints,

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<v Speaker 5>to answer questions, and to solve your problems. Now, in

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<v Speaker 5>addition to that, I'm a legal expert, so we have

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<v Speaker 5>so we can expand the areas that you can call

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<v Speaker 5>and ask questions on.

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<v Speaker 6>UH.

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<v Speaker 5>So give us a call three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 5>three talk or three oh three Martino, Jim. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get back to you now and UH.

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<v Speaker 6>And we're gonna we're gonna hear from you.

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<v Speaker 5>So, did you have any further questions about about your

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<v Speaker 5>uh your service question?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, the only the only question I have is how

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<v Speaker 14>are we supposed to know that this that he actually

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<v Speaker 14>filed a lawsuit based on that bad service?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because because the lawsuit would have a complaint number

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<v Speaker 5>in Jefferson Counnie and you can.

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<v Speaker 12>We're supposed to keep following up with them and see

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<v Speaker 12>if there is something filed.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean you got sir, I mean there was

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<v Speaker 5>an attempt to serve you and Marco.

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<v Speaker 6>Wouldn't they complaint to be attached to the summons?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 7>How many pages? How many pages is the packet that

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<v Speaker 7>the de dropped in your driveway?

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<v Speaker 12>Look like maybe a half a dozen.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so somewhere in those So the first page or

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<v Speaker 7>two is what's called a summons. It tells you what

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<v Speaker 7>your answer is due and which court to file it in,

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<v Speaker 7>and then the subsequent pages there will be like another

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<v Speaker 7>page for a counterclaim.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it small claims by any chance?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is it just gonna ask?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 12>No, Unfortunately it's six figures.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh so that's just cour territory. So you'll see some

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<v Speaker 6>of those pages.

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<v Speaker 7>They'll have numbered paragraphs and it will be like an

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<v Speaker 7>introduction and parties, and I'll say, the Jersey guy does this,

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<v Speaker 7>the Florida guy does that. Here the details of the

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<v Speaker 7>transaction we entered to. Here's how it got bad, and

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<v Speaker 7>here's why I'm suing it. Here's why, here's how much

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<v Speaker 7>I'm demanding. Now, if the gutn Service didn't include that,

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<v Speaker 7>you can just show up at the courthouse and for

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<v Speaker 7>a whopping twenty five cent a page, they'll print out everything.

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<v Speaker 6>That's on file over there for you in that case.

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't that right? Marco? That is correct?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what Dmitrie is really impressive because I

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<v Speaker 5>was here, I was here prior on prior occasion previously,

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<v Speaker 5>and Tom Martino really impressed me with how much he

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<v Speaker 5>knew about.

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<v Speaker 6>The law and he's not a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, now coming in second is Dmitri understanding

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<v Speaker 5>the contents of a complaint. The you know, different different jurisdictions,

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<v Speaker 5>jurisdictional limits as to whether you're in district court, small

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<v Speaker 5>claims court, county court, and then municipal court. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>so this show is is honored to have Dmitri. Who Dmitri,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>A lawyer, no Marco, But I'm a pro say litigant.

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<v Speaker 7>I do file quite a few cases against spammers. That's

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<v Speaker 7>kind of like my specialty. So that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 7>I do in my spare time. And so in my

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<v Speaker 7>general study of court procedures and Colorado civil procedures and

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<v Speaker 7>the federal court civil procedures, I encountered a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>these terms.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's really interesting. You're gonna talk to me about that?

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<v Speaker 7>All I'm going to I'm going to tell you about

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<v Speaker 7>a nice five figure settlement from last week.

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<v Speaker 6>Can impress you?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe we can talk about that on year, noting on

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<v Speaker 5>how comfortable you are with that.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it turns out I'm not supposed to talk about

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<v Speaker 7>it for confidentiality purpose, okay, so otherwise I might not

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<v Speaker 7>get the entire five figures.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so there is a confidentiality provision in the settlement agreement.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>It turns out big corporations are you know, they're totally

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<v Speaker 7>into that kind of thing. But I have plenty of

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<v Speaker 7>others I can talk about freely because people didn't think

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<v Speaker 7>about confidential.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay. Spammers, I don't even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 7>So, oh man, they're a scourged These are vile, vile creatures.

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<v Speaker 7>But Marco, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask

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<v Speaker 7>Jim about the lawsuit. How did what was the deal,

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<v Speaker 7>how did it go bad? And why is the Jersey

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<v Speaker 7>guy suing your son?

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, So here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 12>My son was kneeling in wholesale shoes at the time,

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<v Speaker 12>and he sent him one thousand and fifty pairs of

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<v Speaker 12>shoes were delivered to his residence in Jersey and he

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<v Speaker 12>was supposed to ship him to OZ and he came

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<v Speaker 12>up with this bs, your shoes got flooded, and he

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<v Speaker 12>sat like a cartoon picture of shoes floating in the water.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh wait, so the Jersey guy, the Jersey guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Not to anyone's surprise, some guy in New Jersey stole

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<v Speaker 7>a thousand and fifty pair of shoes from your son.

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<v Speaker 7>And then the Jersey guy is suing your son. Why

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<v Speaker 7>because they weren't eleven hundred pairs of shoes.

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<v Speaker 6>For him to steal.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, then my son, we were on a panic. We're like, well,

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<v Speaker 12>there's a one hundred thousand dollars gone. So we were

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<v Speaker 12>in a panic. And then he had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 12>shoes that he needed to dump. So my son talked

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<v Speaker 12>to him into sending those shoes that he had to

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<v Speaker 12>us because we said he said, hey, I've got a

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<v Speaker 12>buyer for those and I can cast you out right away.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, it was basically a way to recoup.

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<v Speaker 7>Our loss, O Marco. Isn't that called self help? And

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<v Speaker 7>isn't that the downfall of many a litigant?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the pun would be those shoes were made

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<v Speaker 5>for walking, not for floating.

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<v Speaker 6>Not for floating.

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<v Speaker 5>But it sounds like a mess.

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<v Speaker 6>So the Jersey guy.

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<v Speaker 12>And after that, after the Jersey guy was mad because

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<v Speaker 12>he didn't get recompensated for the shoes that he sent us.

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<v Speaker 12>So he went in and used my son's bank account

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<v Speaker 12>and paid off two hundred thousand dollars worth of his

568
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<v Speaker 12>credit cards. Well, we got all that reversed, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Any access, why and.

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<v Speaker 13>How well you got access?

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<v Speaker 12>All it takes is a routing number and an account number,

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<v Speaker 12>and he plugged those into his credit cards and basically

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<v Speaker 12>paid him with just I mean it's not every turn

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<v Speaker 12>every check, you right, those student things.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Marco, I can see how that works.

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<v Speaker 7>I pay stuff online with my checking account, and all

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<v Speaker 7>they ask for is I mean, you can write me

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<v Speaker 7>a check and I can start paying bills out of

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<v Speaker 7>your account.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, it's it's a criminal.

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<v Speaker 15>We got that reversed.

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<v Speaker 12>We got that reversed, and then he went in didn't

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<v Speaker 12>like that, so we got my He had my American

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<v Speaker 12>Express card and he charged fifty one thousand dollars against that.

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<v Speaker 12>We got that reversed. It took about two months for

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<v Speaker 12>them to do the research to see worthy were purchased,

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<v Speaker 12>where the shipments went. So we got that reversal. So

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<v Speaker 12>I'm actually thinking about going to the FBI cyber Crimes

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<v Speaker 12>and filing a final a place report with them for

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<v Speaker 12>all the fraudulent Interstate FRAUDI Committee against us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well at the at the minimum you have counter claims

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<v Speaker 5>against him. So should this guy ever, you know, get

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<v Speaker 5>proper service and you do have a responsibility or an

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<v Speaker 5>obligation to fil what was called an answer to the complaint,

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<v Speaker 5>then you would probably include counter claims. And we'll be

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<v Speaker 5>right back. And thanks for calling. Jim.

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<v Speaker 10>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 10>dot com.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content than.

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<v Speaker 10>Time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison call

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<v Speaker 10>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

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<v Speaker 10>insurance companies find out now three O three seven seven

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<v Speaker 10>to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

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<v Speaker 10>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com

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<v Speaker 10>to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 10>nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Those who love that music, it says great anyway, Welcome

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<v Speaker 5>to the Troubleshooters Show.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Marco Bendanelli.

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<v Speaker 5>I am a Denver, Colorado attorney with a firm Bendanelli

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<v Speaker 5>Law Firm. We are about thirty people strong and we

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<v Speaker 5>are a personal injury law firm, and I am pleased

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<v Speaker 5>to be filling in for Tom and Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>Give us a call.

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<v Speaker 5>Mondays are usually a little slower, so we do have

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<v Speaker 5>some lines open.

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<v Speaker 6>Give us a call at.

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<v Speaker 5>Three three seven one three Talk or three oh three Martino.

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<v Speaker 5>You can reach us also at help at troubleshooter dot

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<v Speaker 5>com and that email works when we're on and off

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<v Speaker 5>the air, so you can get us a message through

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<v Speaker 5>that email Help at troubleshooter dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>So markhead good.

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<v Speaker 7>Nice to have a big time personal injury attorney over

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<v Speaker 7>here for me to.

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<v Speaker 6>Ask some questions.

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<v Speaker 7>And my question comes from the perspective of somebody like

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<v Speaker 7>me who buys a ton of liability insurance via both

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<v Speaker 7>my auto policy and my umbrella policy in order to

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<v Speaker 7>protect myself my assets from people like you, but also

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<v Speaker 7>but also Marco in a very large part, because I

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<v Speaker 7>do have a sense of responsibility to make sure that

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<v Speaker 7>if I do accidentally injure somebody, you know, through some

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<v Speaker 7>kind of an emission on my part, I do want

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure there's insurance in place to take care

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<v Speaker 7>of them. Is I don't want some you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to cripple somebody, so to speak, and leave

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<v Speaker 7>them penniless. So my question is kind of from a

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<v Speaker 7>strange perspective. Well, for you, it would be strange because

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<v Speaker 7>it comes from a perspective of a potential defendants in

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<v Speaker 7>one of your actions.

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<v Speaker 6>Does the fact that I.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a boatload of insurance and this is for after

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<v Speaker 7>the break, We're going to going to make me a

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<v Speaker 7>bigger target and a more juicier target.

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<v Speaker 5>Marco Bendanelli here Bendanelli Law Firm, filling in for Tom

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<v Speaker 5>Martino and Mark Major.

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<v Speaker 6>You have joined us at the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the home of the Consumer Advocate.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the longest syndicated radio station in the country,

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<v Speaker 5>has been running for forty five years. Amazing a testimony

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<v Speaker 5>to Tom Martino, how well he does the things that

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<v Speaker 5>he gets done. For over forty five years. He's been

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<v Speaker 5>listening to your complaints. He's been answering questions and intervening

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<v Speaker 5>and solving your problems. There's been a hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars recovered in the form of cash, merchandise and services.

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<v Speaker 5>What a service Tom Martino has.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, what a niche he's figuring.

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<v Speaker 8>There's another thing this show provides that people don't talk about, Marco,

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<v Speaker 8>is the millions of dollars saved and problems avoided by

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<v Speaker 8>not by just listening to the show, by just listening

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<v Speaker 8>to all of this free advice that has been given

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<v Speaker 8>out for the last forty five years. When I was

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<v Speaker 8>in business, I listened to Tom and I always picked up tips.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's just an uncounted number. But I believe it's

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<v Speaker 8>in the millions for people to just simply not calling in,

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<v Speaker 8>by just simply listening to the show, it's been a

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<v Speaker 8>great benefit to the citizens of Colorado and across the nation.

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<v Speaker 9>Across the nation, yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, they say someone learns from their mistakes,

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<v Speaker 5>but a wise man learns from others mistakes. And so

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<v Speaker 5>that's what Bo's talking about. So we've got a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of callers on the line. We've got Tracy, what a

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<v Speaker 5>question about for Rizon and mail? Why don't you hold

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<v Speaker 5>on while we talk.

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<v Speaker 6>To Tracy and we will get to you mail. Tracy,

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead, Good morning, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 16>I appreciate it. I'm following up on a call about

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<v Speaker 16>two weeks ago. My husband called in on four trade

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<v Speaker 16>ends that we did on a business account, and they've

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<v Speaker 16>only given us credit for two and it's been well

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<v Speaker 16>over six months, eight months we've been dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 16>So my question is if I take them to small

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<v Speaker 16>claims court, who do I name in the when I

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<v Speaker 16>file the papers? Is it the business trip that I'm

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<v Speaker 16>dealing with? Or who do I put on that piece

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<v Speaker 16>of paper.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna let Dmitri feel that question. Good Dmitri.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Marco Tracy, I'm kind of I'm about to

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<v Speaker 7>sue Verizon for a very similar deal. About a year ago,

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<v Speaker 7>I purchased a new phone from their store in Loveland,

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<v Speaker 7>and the promotion was it's one thousand dollars phone, which

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<v Speaker 7>I frankly didn't need, but they made me get it

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<v Speaker 7>in order to add a second line. And the promotion was,

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<v Speaker 7>if I finance it through Verizon for three years, zero interest,

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<v Speaker 7>the monthly payment that I make will automatically be credited

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<v Speaker 7>every single month for the same for the same amount,

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<v Speaker 7>in effect making it a free phone if I stick

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<v Speaker 7>with Verizon for three years. However, much to my shock,

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<v Speaker 7>chagrin and disappointment, the charges started appearing on my phone

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<v Speaker 7>last May, but the credits never appeared.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have numerous calls that I recorded with Verizon.

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<v Speaker 7>In which they all say, Hey, yeah, we didn't process

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<v Speaker 7>the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 6>We can fix it.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll start crediting you next month, and we'll also give

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<v Speaker 7>you big lump some account credit for the amount that

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<v Speaker 7>you should have been credited.

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<v Speaker 6>So none of that has happened.

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<v Speaker 7>So I've been researching on how to see Verizon, and uh,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's not tricky, but it was kind of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 7>Who the defendant is really going to be? Now, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 7>before I tell you that, can you tell me if

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<v Speaker 7>you bought the phone from a Verizon store or if

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<v Speaker 7>you bought it from a Cell plus store which operates

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<v Speaker 7>as Verizon. Do you have any idea what what city

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<v Speaker 7>did you buy these phones in?

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<v Speaker 16>Or it's Colorado Springs and it was purchased through you know.

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<v Speaker 13>On the phone through there the oh, the Verizon itself.

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<v Speaker 7>You didn't even go to the store. And I remember

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<v Speaker 7>your call. You you've mailed into them four Marco. Her

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<v Speaker 7>husband mailed in four old phones. Each one is supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to result in a pretty sizable credit. Now, Verizon, in

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<v Speaker 7>in Tracy's case, acknowledges the receipt of these four phones,

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<v Speaker 7>but she only got credit for two of them.

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<v Speaker 6>So what do you do? What do you do? Dmitri?

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<v Speaker 16>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the reasons this would escape an attorney,

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<v Speaker 5>right and one of the reasons that these carriers get

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<v Speaker 5>away with things like that is because what you're not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be able to pay a lawyer two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty dollars an hour on a thousand dollars issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Fifty an hour. I got the wrong lawyer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Just talking about a low priced lawyer. Sure, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's my point exactly. I mean, there's no you know there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost like they're immune to suit because the amount.

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<v Speaker 6>In controversy is so low.

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<v Speaker 16>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So, Tracy, if I understand your question, you're saying, who

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<v Speaker 7>do I actually sue?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct?

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<v Speaker 16>Or or is contacting writing something up to the Attorney

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<v Speaker 16>General gonna help me at all? Before I even do that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's the easy one.

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<v Speaker 7>The Attorney General is not going to lift a finger

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<v Speaker 7>to help you, me or anybody else who might be listening.

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<v Speaker 6>So here's what I did.

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<v Speaker 7>I did some research on Verizon, and it turns out

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<v Speaker 7>there is no company called Verizon.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a trademark.

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<v Speaker 7>And you can verify this by going to the Colorado

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<v Speaker 7>State Secretary of State's office. They have a business database,

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<v Speaker 7>business registration database, and the trademark Verizon is registered to

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<v Speaker 7>a huge out of state phone company called Selco Partnership.

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<v Speaker 7>Cell Co Partnership and Selco Partnership operates Verizon, and it

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<v Speaker 7>turns out they do have a registered agent here in

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<v Speaker 7>the state. I'm sure Marco, a big company like that

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<v Speaker 7>has registered agents everywhere. Sure, so they engage the services

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<v Speaker 7>of one of those like CT Corporation Service, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>one of those really big ones that do nothing for

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<v Speaker 7>a living except accept process of.

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<v Speaker 5>Service, arise to receive service on behalf of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>lots of defenders, absolutely, and they are listed on the

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<v Speaker 5>Colorado Secretary of State website.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you look up Celco Partnership at the Cardo

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<v Speaker 7>Secretary of States, well, first of all, follow the same

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<v Speaker 7>steps I did. Verify that what I'm telling you is correct.

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<v Speaker 7>Verizon brand is owned by Selco Partnership. And then look

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<v Speaker 7>who CELCLL Partnerships registered agent is, and have them served

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<v Speaker 7>with a small claims action. And by the way, many

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<v Speaker 7>in my experience and I filed a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 7>small claims actions now, and the clerk of the court

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<v Speaker 7>in small claims can serve the defendant by mail. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>they'll try to talk you out of it. They'll say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>they always have the same line. They always say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>that's not the preferred method. So I don't even let

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<v Speaker 7>them get I always just say, ma'am, I understand it's

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<v Speaker 7>not the preferred method. But I'd like to try serving

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<v Speaker 7>them by mail first, and the benefit of that is

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<v Speaker 7>it only costs fifteen dollars instead of one hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 7>if you hire a process server, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It's pretty easy. I mean, you file and you have.

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<v Speaker 7>The service started right on the same visit to the courthouse,

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<v Speaker 7>so you don't have to go deal with the process

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<v Speaker 7>server now. But try that, I mean I would try that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not legal advice. I'm just telling you how I

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<v Speaker 7>do it and how I'm going to do it when

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<v Speaker 7>my time comes to super Horizon for their you know,

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<v Speaker 7>for the thousand bucks they owe me. But you'll probably

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<v Speaker 7>get attention pretty quickly and you'll probably you'll you'll probably

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<v Speaker 7>get a call from their lawyer pretty quickly after filing that.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Marco, what are the odds that somebody like

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<v Speaker 7>Verizon would try to remove the case to a more

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<v Speaker 7>intimidating court.

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<v Speaker 6>And do they need to have grounds to even remove it?

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<v Speaker 7>Like do they have to say, hey, we have a

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<v Speaker 7>counterclaim that exceeds the jurisdiction of small claims court. They

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<v Speaker 7>can't just willing Nelly take it somewhere else since.

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<v Speaker 6>They prefer to.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you know, the thing that separates a state

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<v Speaker 5>court claim as opposed to a federal claim is to

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<v Speaker 5>remove it, as Dmitri said, and he is really up

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<v Speaker 5>to speed on a lot of procedural issues related to

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<v Speaker 5>the practice of law. And before I answer the removal question,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say that the jurisdictional limit in small

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<v Speaker 5>claims court is seventy five hundred dollars and the county

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<v Speaker 5>court is up to twenty five hundred dollars twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five thousand, thank you, And and district court is

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<v Speaker 5>anything over twenty five thousand in controversy, which could be

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred million dollars. And for my firm, ben Anelli

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<v Speaker 5>Law Firm, we we don't practice anywhere but in district court.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of law firms that will practice

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<v Speaker 5>in you know, county court, municipal court, but in my

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<v Speaker 5>law firm, we practice exclusively in district court. So the

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<v Speaker 5>issue on removal is and I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 5>really satisfies or is something that the tracy's looking for,

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<v Speaker 5>but to remove something from state court to federal court,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to have a complete diverse city among the parties, right,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, you have to have a Colorado resident

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<v Speaker 5>suing someone that is not a Colorado resident, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>so that they call that the.

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<v Speaker 6>Diversity among the diversity of citizenship.

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<v Speaker 5>Right And and the other thing is you have to

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<v Speaker 5>have over seventy five thousand dollars in controversy.

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<v Speaker 6>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>The way to get around that is you sue the.

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<v Speaker 6>Local Verizon store.

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<v Speaker 5>So now you're a Colorado resident that has sued and

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<v Speaker 5>I and I forget the name of the company.

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<v Speaker 6>You said that Verizon operates under oh Selco partnership.

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<v Speaker 7>Now and now, in her case, she didn't buy from

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<v Speaker 7>a store, she bought it on the phone from Verizon corporate. However,

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't she satisfy the minimum contacts doctrine because Verizon is

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<v Speaker 7>all over the place here, So they can't claim diversity

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<v Speaker 7>of citizenship just because they're headquartered in Delaware or wherever

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<v Speaker 7>they are, right.

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<v Speaker 6>The minimum contact rule.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that takes me back to law school studying

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<v Speaker 5>for the bar exam.

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<v Speaker 7>The US shoe Company, International smack company, you know, the main.

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<v Speaker 5>Tree is a I'm not kidding anyway. So the answer

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<v Speaker 5>to uh to uh Dmitry's question is yes, it would

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<v Speaker 5>satisfy the minimum contact rule.

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<v Speaker 6>And there you know, their license to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Business uh in Colorado, which is why they have a

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<v Speaker 5>registered ation.

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<v Speaker 16>So can I ask another question, why can't Why can't

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<v Speaker 16>I Why can't I put on the piece of paper?

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<v Speaker 16>Since I've been working with the senior account manager over

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<v Speaker 16>the business, why can't I name him? And then by

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<v Speaker 16>naming him, he's going to go to his upper management

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<v Speaker 16>and saying, hey, I'm listed in a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll let you handle that, Dmitri Well, Tracy, this guy

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<v Speaker 7>worthless or not, does not have a contractual relationship with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Your controversies between you and his employer, not him personally. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>you can certainly subpoena him as a witness, and it

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<v Speaker 7>would definitely help if you've recorded any of these calls

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<v Speaker 7>or going to record any of these calls this guy

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<v Speaker 7>to try to admit faulter liability of any kind, so

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<v Speaker 7>you can subpoena him. But I don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 7>path to suing him, Nor is there really a logical

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<v Speaker 7>reason to sue this guy. I mean, he might be

881
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<v Speaker 7>a snake, or he might be just incompetent, but man,

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<v Speaker 7>it's his company that's responsible for his inaptitude.

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<v Speaker 5>But sometimes I'm.

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<v Speaker 16>Not saying he's incompetent He's helped a lot, but it's

885
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<v Speaker 16>just you know, to get their attention. It's like, hey,

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00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 16>this person would probably go to his upper management going hey,

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00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 16>I'm listed in this lawsuit. Can we get this cleared

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<v Speaker 16>up for her? So he's helped, but it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 16>I sent an email again last week and basically, hey,

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<v Speaker 16>we're still working on it. Eight months later, we're still

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<v Speaker 16>working on it.

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<v Speaker 6>Tracy, Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 5>If you hold on, we'll follow up with you. After

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<v Speaker 5>the break. We have Daryl honing Daryl. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>get to you as well, and with that we'll be

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<v Speaker 5>right back.

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<v Speaker 10>nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back.

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<v Speaker 5>You are back listening to The Troubleshooter Show, uh home

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00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 5>of the consumer advocate Tom Martino, who has been.

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00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.000
<v Speaker 6>Recovering monies in.

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<v Speaker 5>In cash, merchandise and services for forty five years, the

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<v Speaker 5>longest syndicated radio show in the country.

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<v Speaker 6>Honored to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Marco Bendonelli from the Bendonelli Law Firm

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<v Speaker 5>in Denver, Colorado, and I am filling in today for

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martine and Mark Major, who are.

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<v Speaker 6>Not present.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I do want to talk a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit about something that Tom has gone through recently, but

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<v Speaker 5>right now we've got a couple of callers on the phone,

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<v Speaker 5>so we'll save that and we're going to go to Daryl,

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<v Speaker 5>who has a question about medical malpractice.

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<v Speaker 6>Daryl, you still on align with us?

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<v Speaker 15>Hey, Marco, how are we doing this morning?

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<v Speaker 5>We're doing fine.

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<v Speaker 15>So how hard is it to I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 15>say how hard it is. How successful would it be

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<v Speaker 15>to sue a hospital?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, so that's an interesting question because that

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<v Speaker 5>is not necessarily medical malpractice. You know, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>it has to be the wrongdoing of a physician. So

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<v Speaker 5>why don't you tell me a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 15>So, long story short, My son needed a hard transplant,

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<v Speaker 15>and at the time, university would not put him on

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<v Speaker 15>the transplant list unless you got a COVID shot, and

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<v Speaker 15>he was against it and we were all against it.

938
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<v Speaker 15>But at any rate, he got a COVID shot and

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<v Speaker 15>thirty six hours later he died. Now, the autopsy lists

940
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<v Speaker 15>a dozen or fifteen different things, which most of them

941
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<v Speaker 15>we don't understand the terminology. But obviously the COVID shot

942
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<v Speaker 15>wasn't in there. And I mean, I you know, you're

943
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<v Speaker 15>you're throwing a dart at it, like, well, I mean sure,

944
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<v Speaker 15>it could have been anything, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, sure, And I bet they listed, you know, cardiac

946
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 5>arrest and as part of those little laundry lists. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, they're really really sorry to hear that,

948
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<v Speaker 5>you know, really sorry to hear that. And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>you was it which hospital did you mention?

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<v Speaker 15>University?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so university is yeah, intact, Yeah, by you know,

953
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<v Speaker 5>they are a they receive funds from the state or

954
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<v Speaker 5>state sponsor. They are covered or the expression is they

955
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<v Speaker 5>enjoy that's the word that use, They enjoy governmental immunity.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay. That was my question because it's hard to sue

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<v Speaker 15>when you have governmental immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, there are certain notice requirements and there's

960
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 5>some special hoops that you have to jump through, but

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<v Speaker 5>typically it is more challenging, and medical malpractice in and

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<v Speaker 5>of itself is just a very difficult uh. You know,

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00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 5>it's an uphill battle with these type of claims. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>these type of cases. Medical malpractice cases are extremely time consuming,

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<v Speaker 5>they're very expensive, and unless there are huge damages, most

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<v Speaker 5>lawyers will will stay away from them. We do medical

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00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.800
<v Speaker 5>malpractice at my firm, you know, not it's not our

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<v Speaker 5>primary focus, but we've done some rather successfully, I would add,

969
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 5>but but you know, like I said, they are very

970
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<v Speaker 5>time I'm consuming, very expensive in Colorado in addition to

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<v Speaker 5>the hurdles that you face based upon that facility enjoying

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<v Speaker 5>governmental immunity. Uh. You know, for every medical malpractice claim

973
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<v Speaker 5>that is filed prior to filing one, yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>there's a statute. There's a law that you have to

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<v Speaker 5>get something called a certificate of review. Now that means

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<v Speaker 5>you have to hire another medical professional to review the file.

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<v Speaker 5>And the specific language in the statute says that, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>that that this medical professional must attest to the following Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this is lawyer double speak. Are you ready.

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<v Speaker 5>That the case does not lack substantial justification? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 5>it does not substantial justification, but anyway, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>just getting the certificate of review, just getting over that

983
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 5>initial hurdle that could be five or ten thousand dollars,

984
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<v Speaker 5>you know, to get another bock to review that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And typically you're you're contracting with a physician who's not

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<v Speaker 5>in state because you know, it's you can't find doctors

987
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<v Speaker 5>in state to testify against another doctor in state.

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<v Speaker 7>Because there's a big insurance company that ensures doctors and

989
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 7>they're gonna dump you if you testify about another one

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<v Speaker 7>of their clients.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know it's copic, and you know they are

993
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<v Speaker 5>very you know, I'm trying to avoid the words that

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<v Speaker 5>I would use naturally.

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<v Speaker 6>Have they agressively manage liability? Yeah, they are.

996
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 5>They are aggressive in the way that they litigate their cases.

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<v Speaker 15>So well, you know, it was it was it was

998
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<v Speaker 15>sad for us to find out that we didn't even

999
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<v Speaker 15>think that mandating COVID shot was even a thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 15>We we thought that was dead and gone and it's

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00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 15>all voluntary, and and were shocked to find out that,

1002
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<v Speaker 15>uh university, I don't know if they still do, but

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<v Speaker 15>since since the administration has changed.

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<v Speaker 6>But how long how long ago was this October? Middle

1005
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<v Speaker 6>of October's.

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<v Speaker 7>Super recent I'm shocked to hear somebody still requires satanic.

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<v Speaker 15>We were, we were, we were shocked that that they

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<v Speaker 15>you know, the university is still mandated.

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<v Speaker 5>That totally shocked, you know, Uh, because my answer regarding

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<v Speaker 5>medical malpractice really avoided the issue of the of the shot. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy Dimitri just characterized that shot as satanic. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the further we get away from the pandemic, uh.

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00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 5>And you know, just time and time again, we are

1014
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 5>seeing examples. They're all, you know, what happened to your son,

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00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, and the legitimacy of the you know, dangerous

1016
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 5>and you know, the fatalities caused, people's lives wrecked because

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<v Speaker 5>the government mandated this thing. And you know, it's just

1018
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<v Speaker 5>gaining in Uh, the problems that were you know, poo

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<v Speaker 5>pooed and minimized. I mean, they are just gaining in legitimacy.

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<v Speaker 13>Go ahead, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean for what for what for from what we understand?

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<v Speaker 15>And and.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that.

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<v Speaker 15>The biggest side effect from COVID was the.

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<v Speaker 6>Heart and you know, and respiratory issues.

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<v Speaker 15>And respiratory sure, but like I said it that I

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<v Speaker 15>mean my biggest yes, I guess I guess you. You've

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<v Speaker 15>already answered my question. And that's that's that it would

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<v Speaker 15>be a time consuming, he feel bat it will probably

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<v Speaker 15>waste of time, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 5>So so while I have to deliver that uh news,

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<v Speaker 5>I also want to tell you I'm very very sorry

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<v Speaker 5>about what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure all the listeners today would are saddened by your story.

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<v Speaker 6>Really so yeah, but I don't think I don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to find uh an attorney who's gonna take

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00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 5>that case number one against university hospital, number two against

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<v Speaker 5>the vaccination, you know. So But anyway, we thank you

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<v Speaker 5>for calling in. We have to take a short break

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<v Speaker 5>and thank you Darryl, and we will be right back

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<v Speaker 5>after this.

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<v Speaker 5>You are listening to the Troubleshooter Show, uh, the Tom

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00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 5>Martino Show UH, and Tom Martino is normally the host

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00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 5>along with Mark Major his co host. My name is

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<v Speaker 5>Marco Bendinelli. I am a Denver, Colorado attorney and I

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<v Speaker 5>am the founder and sole shareholder of Bendonelli Law Firm.

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<v Speaker 5>We are thirty professional strong. We are a personal injury

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<v Speaker 5>law firm and we can be reached at one eight

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<v Speaker 6>That's one eight hundred attorney.

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<v Speaker 5>Our website is CEO like Colorado CEO Law Firm dot com,

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<v Speaker 5>so you can find us there for your personal injury

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<v Speaker 5>legal needs. Today we are talking about issues. It's been

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01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 5>a little bit all over the board. We have Mike

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<v Speaker 5>on hold who has a question about door dash and Mike,

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<v Speaker 5>I am anxious to get to you.

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<v Speaker 6>But we have Yvonne calling in who.

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<v Speaker 5>Has a comment on the COVID shot issue, which we

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<v Speaker 5>just discussed.

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<v Speaker 6>With the caller.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm going to take Yvonne real quick, but Mike,

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<v Speaker 5>please hold on and be patient. Yvonne, tell us about

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<v Speaker 5>your comment on the COVID shot.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, my comment is is that because the COVID shot

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<v Speaker 17>was mandated by the federal government, and that the university

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<v Speaker 17>does have subsidies from the federal government, and the fact

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<v Speaker 17>that we as citizens pay federal tax that I'm just

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<v Speaker 17>thinking that they would have some sort of liability for that.

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<v Speaker 17>But you're going to have to find a lawyer who

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<v Speaker 17>has a lot of extra time, who doesn't care about money,

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<v Speaker 17>who just wants to challenge because it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 17>sue the government.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, actually we talked about that off the

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<v Speaker 5>air after the last caller and talked about a potential

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<v Speaker 5>civil rights violation. But you know, these manufactors, the government

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<v Speaker 5>granted them immunity.

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<v Speaker 17>And well, I'm just saying, you know, because Fauchi you,

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, it could be so litigates, you know, possibly

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<v Speaker 17>you just have to find a lawyer who does who

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<v Speaker 17>has enough time to just take that on, that doesn't,

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<v Speaker 17>like I said, that doesn't care about money, that just

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<v Speaker 17>wants to challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that those lawyers will be few and far between.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably someone retired. But anyway, we thank you for your comment. Evon,

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<v Speaker 5>you're preaching to the choir. We have Mike online three

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<v Speaker 5>who has a question about door dash.

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<v Speaker 18>Go ahead, Mike, Hey, good morning. Oh I'm just calling.

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<v Speaker 18>I've been door dashing recently, just for some extra income.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 18>I heard the stories a week ago of the three

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<v Speaker 18>like Colorado companies being fined for hiring the legal aliens.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh yeah, lately that door dash.

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<v Speaker 5>Sally dmitri hand the deputy dmitri Han. It seems like

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<v Speaker 5>he's dialed in on that issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Well what I what?

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<v Speaker 7>I read an article just a few days ago about

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<v Speaker 7>the federal government finding three Denver based companies, most of

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<v Speaker 7>which were involved in like cleaning services, that kind of

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<v Speaker 7>stuff for hiring like outrageously obvious illegal aliens, duplicate duplicate

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01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 7>social Security numbers, lack of paperwork. One of these fines

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<v Speaker 7>will was well over six million dollars Marco. This is there,

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<v Speaker 7>This is real money. They're sending a message. But Mike,

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<v Speaker 7>what is what? What does that have to do with DoorDash?

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<v Speaker 7>I thought maybe somebody spit a loogie in your in

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<v Speaker 7>your delivery or something.

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<v Speaker 18>No, no, I just noticed that that's clearly going on

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<v Speaker 18>with door dash as well. I'd say probably fifty percent

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<v Speaker 18>of the door dashers out there are clearly part of

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<v Speaker 18>that wave of illegal immigrants. And I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 18>they're even able to because you do need to upload

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<v Speaker 18>forms of ID and pass background checks to become a

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<v Speaker 18>contractor with them. But I mean, people can lie, I guess,

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<v Speaker 18>but there's so many it feels like it's just too

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<v Speaker 18>obvious that Dr Nash is just hiring them knowingly.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you know, they they may or may not be complicit.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do think that.

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<v Speaker 5>Our president has a mandate regarding that issue. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that there is a general outrage, uh, with respect to

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<v Speaker 5>illegal immigrants that are criminals, that have committed murders and rapes,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, and and you've got these small vocal

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<v Speaker 5>minority groups that are you know, not worried about the

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<v Speaker 5>United States citizens, not worried about the victims of these things,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, they want to grant rights to uh,

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<v Speaker 5>the illegal immigrants. And so you know, I think you're

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<v Speaker 5>kind of appreciing that acchoir here, and.

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<v Speaker 6>But we thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there is one, you know, previously unforeseen consequence

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01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 7>of the people who are not allowed to work here

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<v Speaker 7>stealing a social Security number are being provided with a

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<v Speaker 7>valid social Security number that belongs to somebody else. That

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01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 7>happened to somebody I know, and their social Security number

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 7>was used for a ton of different jobs all over

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01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 7>the country. It caused this guy IRS nightmares that have

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<v Speaker 7>not only taken years, they're still going on because the

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<v Speaker 7>IRS claims that he owes taxes here and there and

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<v Speaker 7>all these other jobs. And it's like a whack a mole.

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<v Speaker 7>By the time he gets one of these IRS issues settled,

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<v Speaker 7>another one pops out. It seems to be endless, endless.

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<v Speaker 9>So there are a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Of these silently suffering victims out there whose social Security

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<v Speaker 7>numbers are getting stolen.

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<v Speaker 6>And that and you know, and that is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Victims of non violent crimes, let alone victims of violent thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly, they're both hal they're both sides to this.

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<v Speaker 5>So and anyway, we have a latter two open. Please

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<v Speaker 5>give us a call three oh three seven to one

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01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:08.960
<v Speaker 5>three talk three oh three seven one three talk and

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<v Speaker 5>we will be right back after this.

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<v Speaker 10>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel roofing

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<v Speaker 10>dot com.

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01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.320
<v Speaker 10>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:31.000
<v Speaker 10>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 10>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.119
<v Speaker 10>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 10>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

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01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 10>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance. Three

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<v Speaker 10>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>We are back on the air. We've got some exciting

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<v Speaker 5>news from after the top of the We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>a special guest with us today, Gary Millsbaw, a retired

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<v Speaker 5>lieutenant from the Aurora Police Department, and so that is

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<v Speaker 5>something you can look forward to right now. We have

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<v Speaker 5>been talking about some of the challenges for medical malpractice cases,

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<v Speaker 5>some of the challenges that have been forced upon people

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<v Speaker 5>by the vaccine by being forced to take the shot.

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<v Speaker 5>And we just heard a sad story this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Said is not even the word Marco. It's heartbreaking and

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<v Speaker 7>whatever comes beyond heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 6>It's outrageous.

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<v Speaker 5>Really. You know, while pending a heart transplant, the hospital

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<v Speaker 5>required that the patient.

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<v Speaker 6>Get vaccinated, who initially.

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<v Speaker 5>Refused, but then acquiesced and died thirty six hours after

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<v Speaker 5>taking that shot. And you know, we were talking about

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01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:14.480
<v Speaker 5>the legitimacy of the problems with this vaccine that were minimized, discounted,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and.

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<v Speaker 7>So we learn so much more every day. Look at

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01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 7>all these teenage athletes who are suddenly dropping dead of

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<v Speaker 7>heart attacks.

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01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 6>That's unheard of.

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<v Speaker 5>It's unreal, and there's no accountability, you know, there's no accountability.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway. My name is Marco Bendinelli.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm filling in for Tom Martino and Mark Major, and

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<v Speaker 5>we are welcoming your calls. If you have any problems

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<v Speaker 5>with vendors, with people you do business with. You've been

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<v Speaker 5>ripped off, you've been scammed, you got complaints, We got answers,

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01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 5>and we are here to solve problems. Take your calls

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01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:03.039
<v Speaker 5>and look into whatever whatever circumstance you're facing.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino has been doing that for forty five years.

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01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.600
<v Speaker 5>This is the longest syndicated radio show in the country.

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01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 5>Extremely impressive.

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<v Speaker 16>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I am privileged to be here, you know. And so again,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have a problem, you give us a call

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<v Speaker 5>at three oh three Martino, UH, or you can email

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<v Speaker 5>us at help at troubleshooter dot com. Uh we are

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<v Speaker 5>looking forward to speaking to the retired uh Aurora police officer.

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<v Speaker 5>I think after he retired, you spent some time at

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<v Speaker 5>the Jefferson County with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're looking forward to hearing from Gary Millspaw. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, We're going to explore a very sensitive

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<v Speaker 5>and controversial topic, which is the trenday Aragua taking over

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01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:04.399
<v Speaker 5>apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, which the national media has

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<v Speaker 5>said is fake. It did not occur. So Gary's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>talk to us about that and get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 5>of it and shed some light on that.

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<v Speaker 7>And Marco not only that, but I'd like our audience

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01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:20.920
<v Speaker 7>to know this is our very first ask me Anything session.

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<v Speaker 7>So if anybody has questions that they've always wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>ask a cop, give us a call. We're gonna put

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<v Speaker 7>Gary right on the spot. The only rule is you

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<v Speaker 7>can ask him anything. The only other rule is Gary

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<v Speaker 7>might not answer, but go ahead and take a shot.

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<v Speaker 7>How to get out of a ticket? How many donuts

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01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 7>do they actually eat? How do you know if you're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna get a ticket or a warning? What can you

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01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:45.359
<v Speaker 7>do to enhance your odds of a warning rather than

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<v Speaker 7>a ticket?

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<v Speaker 6>So you tune in and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 10>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 10>dot com.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:23.680
<v Speaker 10>Leave time for an insurance check up free, no obligation

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01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 10>comparison call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at

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01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 10>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

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01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.199
<v Speaker 10>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 10>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:39.199
<v Speaker 10>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 10>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Lead.

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<v Speaker 13>You don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Run as can No shoot 's gonna help?

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<v Speaker 4>Come di is the Troubleshooter Show Now, Tom Martinez.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you love the energy of that music? I mean

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<v Speaker 5>it just excites me sitting here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we should start a mush pitch whenever that music

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<v Speaker 7>comes out.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my goodness, we're dancing around here in the studio.

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01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of it's kind of fun anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Marco Bendinelli Bendanelli Law Firm, filling in for

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01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:29.720
<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino. And Mark Major.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to the Trouble Shooter Show.

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<v Speaker 5>The longest syndicated radio show in the country forty five years.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom is a pioneer as a consumer advocate. He has

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<v Speaker 5>recovered what hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, merchandise

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<v Speaker 5>and services.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, yes, three hundred and fifty million bucks recovered

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<v Speaker 7>by Tom and Mark. And by the way, guest hosts

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<v Speaker 7>get twenty percent on the days that they work here.

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<v Speaker 9>We got to get paid.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, anyway, Tom is a pioneer, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm proud of him for standing up against the grand

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<v Speaker 5>calling out these ripoff artists, these scumbags, and really you know,

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<v Speaker 5>pressing the flesh and getting in the middle of these

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<v Speaker 5>things to solve problems. And you know, hats off to Tom. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom has suffered some you know, some medical issues, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're looking forward to his full recovery and return.

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<v Speaker 6>Our best thoughts and prayers go out to him. Right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I am privileged to sit in his chair. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 5>are at the top of the hour and we have

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<v Speaker 5>a special guest today, Lieutenant Gary Millspaugh, who is a

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<v Speaker 5>retired lieutenant from the Aurora Police Department, and then, as

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<v Speaker 5>if that was not enough public service, then he joined

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<v Speaker 5>the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department for another nine years.

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<v Speaker 6>That I think that was.

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<v Speaker 7>His first gig in law enforcement, right, Gary, So nine

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01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.279
<v Speaker 7>years in jeff Go, a couple of years in DA,

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01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:18.479
<v Speaker 7>including undercover stuff that we got a bunch of questions for,

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01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 7>and after that, decades at aur APD.

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<v Speaker 6>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the kind of guy that you know really

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01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.399
<v Speaker 5>makes up the fabric of our society, you know, like

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01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:31.640
<v Speaker 5>the everyday heroes.

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01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:33.399
<v Speaker 6>You know, we love.

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01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:39.239
<v Speaker 5>Those people, you know. And what I'm interested and anxious

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about is the uh, you know, whether there

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<v Speaker 5>were false claims of gang takeovers in Aurora, Because while

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01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:55.640
<v Speaker 5>we were off the air, I googled it and listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 5>It says there have been controversies and challenge and this

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01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 5>is a quote including false claims of gang takeovers and

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01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:12.800
<v Speaker 5>increased crimes. And you know, I mean, wow, what kind

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<v Speaker 5>you know is that?

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<v Speaker 6>The fake news? What a whitewash? What a whitewash? Unbelievable?

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<v Speaker 5>So so uh We're gonna ask uh, uh Gary, Gary,

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<v Speaker 5>can you comment on whether uh the claims of gang

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01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 5>takeovers of apart in apartment complexes and Aurora?

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01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:37.600
<v Speaker 6>Were they was that false? Was that was that made up?

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01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:41.279
<v Speaker 6>It was all fake news? Well yeah, right right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Gary, tell us, tell us what you know

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01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:49.680
<v Speaker 5>about that, about the uh trenda Aragua presence in Aurora,

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<v Speaker 5>real real were uh perceived?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, like you said, there was a great deal of

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01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.680
<v Speaker 19>controversy and raw involved in that in from for a

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01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 19>variety of reasons. From an officer's perspective, I mean, the

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01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 19>national media eventually put out those takeovers with the armed

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01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.439
<v Speaker 19>gang members. That was kind of spoke for itself. We

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01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.880
<v Speaker 19>had the biggest champion that brought that to the national

1315
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:19.880
<v Speaker 19>forefront was the city councilwoman Daniel Jerinsky, and she actually

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01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:22.640
<v Speaker 19>came to the aid of one of the victims there

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01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:25.239
<v Speaker 19>and helped her get relocated.

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<v Speaker 6>And was ostracized, if I recall, Yes.

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, very much so demonized. Yeah, well for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, first, the governor came out and said basically

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01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:35.600
<v Speaker 19>it was a nothing burger, and then of course that

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01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 19>was supported by the mayor. The last thing they wanted

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01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:43.560
<v Speaker 19>to do, especially in the hypercharged environment of immigration and

1324
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.640
<v Speaker 19>everything that that entails. The last thing they want to

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01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.079
<v Speaker 19>do is bring any adverse publicity to the City of Aurora,

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01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:54.199
<v Speaker 19>not the least of which was the potential economic damage

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01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:59.800
<v Speaker 19>that was happening. Councilwoman Jerinsky was a big champion of

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01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.760
<v Speaker 19>the had always been since I was when I was there,

1329
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 19>since she took office, was a big champion of the

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01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:09.159
<v Speaker 19>police department. So you know, there was a lot of controversy,

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01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 19>especially on the city council between the left and the right,

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01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 19>and since she led the charge and all the other

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01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 19>issues that I just mentioned, Yes, there was a lot

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01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.239
<v Speaker 19>of blowback right, and a lot of blame placed on

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01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:24.239
<v Speaker 19>the slumlords. As most people are who are aware of

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01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 19>the situation.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, was that Governor Polis or was that the That.

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<v Speaker 7>Was Mayor Kaufman who went in the news at the

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01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:37.199
<v Speaker 7>beginning of this controversy, and in my view, he minimized

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01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:39.960
<v Speaker 7>the entire situation and he said, yeah, you know, there

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01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.600
<v Speaker 7>may be some problems, but it's uh and I'm paraphrasing,

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01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.640
<v Speaker 7>it's entirely the fault of and this is a direct

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01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 7>quote out of state slum lords.

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01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:50.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'll tell you what I mean.

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01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 5>Elevating first of all, saying they're false and then to

1346
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 5>the extent that they're caught, you know, then they're elevating

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01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:07.079
<v Speaker 5>the rights of the illegals, dismissing the harm to the citizens.

1348
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:10.640
<v Speaker 5>And you know, and I think people have had enough.

1349
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:12.720
<v Speaker 5>I think people have had enough.

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01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 6>What do you say, Gary, I would agree.

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01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:19.079
<v Speaker 19>And then there's obviously people that would be obviously considered

1352
01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:23.159
<v Speaker 19>innocent within the venezuel And community that obviously are swept

1353
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 19>up in this whole issue. But there's been instances where

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01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 19>you've had parking lots, huge parking lots taken over by

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01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:34.840
<v Speaker 19>Venezuela and some of them were infiltrated by gang members.

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01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 19>There has been reports in certain of those instances where

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01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:44.000
<v Speaker 19>arguably there were shots fired. And then of course you

1358
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 19>have all kinds of problems with traffic congestion and speeders

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01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.520
<v Speaker 19>and racers on the highway and so forth.

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01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.560
<v Speaker 6>To certain degrees they're involved.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't think that rises to the level

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01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:59.880
<v Speaker 5>of m sixteens in the hallways of apartment complexes.

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01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:02.239
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I would totally agree with that.

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<v Speaker 19>And like I said, that's a problem where they're trying

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01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:07.000
<v Speaker 19>to lay low and sweep it under the rud for

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01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 19>political purposes, as I mentioned before.

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01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:11.199
<v Speaker 6>But the officers have obviously.

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01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.199
<v Speaker 19>Came into contact and had to engage these people, these

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01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.560
<v Speaker 19>gang members, if you will, under a variety of circumstances,

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01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.840
<v Speaker 19>and they're villainized, they're villainized, and law enforcements villainized. Yes,

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01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:24.359
<v Speaker 19>obviously the chief has to take a stand, and obviously

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01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:26.920
<v Speaker 19>it's going to be with regard to this, you know,

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01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:28.920
<v Speaker 19>the narrative that's out there.

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01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:33.159
<v Speaker 5>And to your understanding, what do you think the narrative

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01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:34.079
<v Speaker 5>was of.

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01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Governor Polis, Well, the same thing.

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01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:40.920
<v Speaker 19>I mean, obviously, you had the President Trump coming into

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01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.680
<v Speaker 19>office and his main objective, at one of his main

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01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:47.800
<v Speaker 19>objectives that he was that he was voted for, voted

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01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.640
<v Speaker 19>in office, was the deal with the border and deal

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01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 19>with immigration issues. And he'd already talked about that on

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01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 19>a campaign trail, about what was going on in Ohio

1383
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:58.359
<v Speaker 19>and what was going on in Aurora. For all the

1384
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 19>information that we're talking about that he had received and

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01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:03.039
<v Speaker 19>that became a priority.

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01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 5>And how did Governor Polus help the fake news?

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01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 19>Well, obviously, to my knowledge, the governor wasn't you know,

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01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.840
<v Speaker 19>quick to go ahead and support the agenda of the president,

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01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.520
<v Speaker 19>you know, especially since it was brought for the reasons

1390
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.399
<v Speaker 19>we've already spoke at by Councilwoman Jerinsky. That brought it

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01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 19>to the forefront, and then it was picked up by

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01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:28.079
<v Speaker 19>the Trump administration early on in the in the campaign trail,

1393
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:33.079
<v Speaker 19>so you could see the political component of that, especially

1394
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.119
<v Speaker 19>leading up to the election, and then locally from the

1395
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:41.039
<v Speaker 19>mayor's standpoint, you know, dragging the city proverbly through the mud.

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01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 19>And so there was a lot of controversy all the

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01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:46.560
<v Speaker 19>way from the Trump administration of Trump campaign all the

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01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 19>way down to city council, right.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the Colorado gubernatorial election in twenty twenty six

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01:20:54.560 --> 01:21:00.159
<v Speaker 5>will find out whether the citizens of Colorado, you know,

1401
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.119
<v Speaker 5>we're going to hold some you know, the governor responsible,

1402
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:07.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, increase some accountability. What do you think, demetrim Now,

1403
01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:08.239
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't count on it.

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01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:11.840
<v Speaker 7>And you know, throughout this whole controversy, as the police

1405
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.600
<v Speaker 7>were painted unfairly painted and smeared as racists because they're

1406
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.279
<v Speaker 7>going after the Hispanic gangsters, and the councilwoman over there

1407
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:23.800
<v Speaker 7>was was smeared the same way. Everybody seemed to have

1408
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:27.239
<v Speaker 7>ignored the fact that the chief, you know, the chief

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01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:31.319
<v Speaker 7>victims of the TDA were an incredibly vulnerable part of

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01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.279
<v Speaker 7>the population. Which is the rest of the illegal aliens

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01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.479
<v Speaker 7>who were living in these apartments and other apartments, and

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01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 7>the TDA was collecting rent from these very vulnerable people

1413
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.279
<v Speaker 7>ages who can't go to the police.

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01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.239
<v Speaker 6>For help, right for fear of being deported.

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01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.960
<v Speaker 7>And so this is so how can this how can

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01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.720
<v Speaker 7>they make this into a racial issue. I mean, yes,

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01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:55.439
<v Speaker 7>it's true people like us, they are victimized, but man,

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01:21:55.479 --> 01:22:00.600
<v Speaker 7>they really prayed inexcusably prayed on an extremely vulnerable part.

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01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.319
<v Speaker 6>Of the population. So it was it was and still is. Man,

1420
01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:05.319
<v Speaker 6>just disgusting.

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01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:09.159
<v Speaker 7>Just uh, it's uh, it's sad, it's disgusting, it's infuriating,

1422
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 7>and unfortunately these people will never be held to account.

1423
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:14.479
<v Speaker 7>I mean, Paulus is going to go on to like

1424
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.960
<v Speaker 7>probably senate seat. I mean this is face that this

1425
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.920
<v Speaker 7>is a deep blue state, right, So uh, he's gonna

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01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:22.479
<v Speaker 7>go to to to to Senate and then uh, I

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01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:24.119
<v Speaker 7>don't know what Kaufman is going to do next, but

1428
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 7>he can't seem to to find any way to earn

1429
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 7>a living other than from you know.

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01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.319
<v Speaker 6>Public office. And that's that's it.

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01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:31.760
<v Speaker 7>I think we just got to kind of live with

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01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:33.880
<v Speaker 7>it and hopefull though the federal government will consene here

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01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:34.520
<v Speaker 7>to clean up.

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01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.279
<v Speaker 6>And and by the way, in the Attorney General, what

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01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 6>did he do?

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01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:41.079
<v Speaker 7>Has he lifted a finger to to address the criminal

1437
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:42.800
<v Speaker 7>invaders that we've been dealing with.

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01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 6>Phil Weisser. Yeah, so he's gonna be our next governor,

1439
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:46.319
<v Speaker 6>I guarantee you that.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, then then you've got the controversy which is nationwide,

1441
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:55.640
<v Speaker 19>which is sanctuary cities in particular. But law enforcement, as

1442
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:58.439
<v Speaker 19>far as chiefs of police in certain sheriffs throughout the

1443
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 19>country have already stayed of the fact that they're not

1444
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:06.479
<v Speaker 19>going to cooperate with ICE. And as Tom Holman has said,

1445
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.640
<v Speaker 19>you know, it would be ideal before these gang members

1446
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.159
<v Speaker 19>who have been criminally charged if they could engage them

1447
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:16.399
<v Speaker 19>and only send one or two ICE agents to the facility,

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01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:17.640
<v Speaker 19>the detention facility.

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01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.279
<v Speaker 6>It would save the situation.

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01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.239
<v Speaker 19>Where you got to send a mass almost you know,

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01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:26.680
<v Speaker 19>a squadron, you know, or a platoon of ICE off

1452
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:30.399
<v Speaker 19>agents that put the ICE agents in jeopardy. And they

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01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:32.640
<v Speaker 19>also and they also put the public in jeopardy when

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01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:35.479
<v Speaker 19>they're trying to apprehend them like we saw I believe

1455
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:37.520
<v Speaker 19>it was in Colorado Springs or here recently.

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01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:38.960
<v Speaker 6>And we're going to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>When we come back from the break, three or three

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01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Martino call us with questions or comments on this controversial issue.

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<v Speaker 5>am filling in for Tom Martino and Mark Major.

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<v Speaker 15>We have.

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<v Speaker 5>Really a great guest with us right now, Jerry Millsbaw,

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01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:16.600
<v Speaker 5>a retired Aurora police officer. We just had a spirited

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01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 5>discussion regarding things that have gone on in Aurora.

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<v Speaker 6>And whether that was fabricated or real.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh. You know, I think that the Colorado residents know

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01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 5>what's real.

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<v Speaker 6>But in the.

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<v Speaker 5>National media, uh, you know, all of that was tagged

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01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:40.439
<v Speaker 5>as you know, false claims. And but anyway, so Gary

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<v Speaker 5>had had some things to say about that. We have

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<v Speaker 5>some lines open, So give us a call three three

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<v Speaker 5>seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 6>Or three oh three Martino and uh.

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01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:03.279
<v Speaker 5>We got Deputy Deputy Bow here who has some updates

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01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:09.000
<v Speaker 5>on some previous callers and previous circumstances that have been investigated.

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01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:12.199
<v Speaker 5>And Bo, why don't you jump in and tell us

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 8>First, I'd like to tell the listeners that I've worked

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01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:21.840
<v Speaker 8>since I've been here over forty cases, and with the

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<v Speaker 8>limits of time, I can't go into all of them.

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01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 8>But if any of the listeners would like to call

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01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.600
<v Speaker 8>in or send us an email about an update on

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01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 8>a case, we have five great deputies here that do

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01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.279
<v Speaker 8>the Martino Show a great service. We all donate our time.

1505
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.840
<v Speaker 8>We have a five deputies. One that's an expert in

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01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:51.159
<v Speaker 8>medical and one that's an expert in accounting and law enforcement.

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01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:55.479
<v Speaker 8>I'm a specialist in contracting, and then we have someone

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01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.520
<v Speaker 8>Dmitri's good at business issues.

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01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.760
<v Speaker 9>So I think it's good for the listeners to use.

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01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.880
<v Speaker 9>This is a great resource free.

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01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:09.960
<v Speaker 8>I mean, were happy to dig in and investigate any cases,

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01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:14.479
<v Speaker 8>any issues you might have, and our deputies have a

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01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:18.520
<v Speaker 8>very good success rate at getting to a resolution and

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01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.000
<v Speaker 8>more importantly trying to get to the other side of

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01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:24.039
<v Speaker 8>the story. So, like I said, I've worked on thirty

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01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:27.199
<v Speaker 8>forty cases and if anyone would like to call in,

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01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.479
<v Speaker 8>I would be happy to talk about an individual case.

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01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:35.760
<v Speaker 8>I did bring my file in. I was working with

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01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 8>Peggy Back. She called in on March fourteenth, ten o'clock hour.

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01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.239
<v Speaker 8>This one was very interesting. She was getting a raw

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01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:53.399
<v Speaker 8>sewage smell in her apartment and the property management company

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01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:56.359
<v Speaker 8>absolutely would not do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 9>And what was sad about it?

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<v Speaker 6>As what did we do about it? Both? What did

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<v Speaker 6>we do about it?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I can tell you what we did about it.

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<v Speaker 8>I went over there and investigated it, tried to call

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01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:09.720
<v Speaker 8>the management company first. You know, you always want to

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01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:11.439
<v Speaker 8>get the other side of the story, and went over

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01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:16.159
<v Speaker 8>there and verified she had a sewer type gasw coming

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01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 8>through a ventilation system. And what was said about is

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01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 8>Peggy was have stage four cancer, she was on chemo,

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01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:26.640
<v Speaker 8>and this lady couldn't even get off the couch to

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01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.760
<v Speaker 8>show me around. So basically I called the State of

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01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:35.239
<v Speaker 8>Colorado Health Department and they got involved and we put

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01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.920
<v Speaker 8>in with the asset of the show. We put heat

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01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:40.960
<v Speaker 8>on the Tameron Apartment complex.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I want to call hers listeners to know

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01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:50.159
<v Speaker 5>is that this is not fluff when you call with

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01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 5>your problems, your complaints from these people irresponsible, the people

1541
01:28:55.680 --> 01:29:00.520
<v Speaker 5>that are ripping you off the scale, artist, the uh

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01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:03.199
<v Speaker 5>in this case, you know, terrible landlords.

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01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.720
<v Speaker 6>You know this is not just for show, you know.

1544
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:10.520
<v Speaker 5>Uh, You've got actual people following up on on on

1545
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:11.680
<v Speaker 5>your issues.

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01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:14.760
<v Speaker 8>And it's live. We're doing We're doing it live. I

1547
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.279
<v Speaker 8>mean we're going out. We're not like setting on these

1548
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:20.079
<v Speaker 8>cases for a couple of weeks. We'll get an issue

1549
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:23.079
<v Speaker 8>and normally we start making calls during the top of

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01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 8>the hour.

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<v Speaker 5>Break and yeah, so don't hesitate the call three o

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01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:31.439
<v Speaker 5>three Martino, Uh, give us your real problems and we

1553
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:36.079
<v Speaker 5>will give you real solutions. Uh. We have a special

1554
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.560
<v Speaker 5>guest with us, Gary millsbaw a retired a or a

1555
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:45.359
<v Speaker 5>police uh police officer, and so we we welcome your

1556
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 5>calls for Gary uh to find out how you get

1557
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:53.319
<v Speaker 5>out of a speeding ticket? UH. Ask them anything, be controversial,

1558
01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:58.640
<v Speaker 5>have a little fun. That's Monday, wake up anyway, Uh

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01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.399
<v Speaker 5>three oh three, Martine, you know, give us a call again.

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01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:03.119
<v Speaker 6>UH.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Marco Bendinelli and I really am honored

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01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:10.840
<v Speaker 5>to be here and to be invited to host the

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01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:15.399
<v Speaker 5>show for Tom and Mark while they're not here. It's

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01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:18.199
<v Speaker 5>really a privilege. We have to take a short break

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01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:20.640
<v Speaker 5>and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 5>You are listening to six thirty Talk Radio six thirty

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<v Speaker 5>K Howe khow to the Troubleshooter Show.

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01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 6>My name is Marco Bendinelli.

1579
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:18.279
<v Speaker 5>Am honored to be filling in for Mark Major and

1580
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino, both who.

1581
01:31:22.079 --> 01:31:24.840
<v Speaker 6>Are not in town today.

1582
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:27.279
<v Speaker 5>And we can talk a little bit about a little

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01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.399
<v Speaker 5>more about that. My name again is Marco Bendanelli. I'm

1584
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:35.119
<v Speaker 5>a local practicing attorney from the Bendanelli Law Firm.

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01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.960
<v Speaker 6>We've been in business in.

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01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:42.279
<v Speaker 5>Denver since nineteen ninety seven and as I like to say,

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01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:46.720
<v Speaker 5>we are the best choice for the injured we represent.

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01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:49.479
<v Speaker 5>We're a personal injury law firm. If you have any

1589
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:53.319
<v Speaker 5>questions today about personal injury or any other legal questions,

1590
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:57.239
<v Speaker 5>you give us a call, you know, and as normal

1591
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:03.159
<v Speaker 5>or as usual, we answer questions and listen to complaints

1592
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:08.039
<v Speaker 5>and solve problems for consumer. Tom Martino has been a

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01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:13.359
<v Speaker 5>consumer advocate, the People's Champion for forty five years, amazing

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01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:16.840
<v Speaker 5>longest syndicated radio show in the country.

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01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:22.079
<v Speaker 6>And uh before the break, we were getting.

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01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:25.079
<v Speaker 5>A little update on some of the past calls and

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01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:29.159
<v Speaker 5>some of the past problems that have been reported and

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01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:30.760
<v Speaker 5>deputy be Bo.

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01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.720
<v Speaker 6>Bo and I can talk sometimes.

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01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:37.680
<v Speaker 5>You know. It's it's really a good skill for while

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01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:40.520
<v Speaker 5>you're on the radio, you know, for a.

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01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 6>Trial lawyer, it's not that important, but not that you're here.

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01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:46.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll take the marbles out of my mouth while

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01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:47.279
<v Speaker 5>we get.

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01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:51.079
<v Speaker 20>An update from W to b wy Bow there it is. Again,

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01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:54.880
<v Speaker 20>Bo is a lot easier to say than Dmitri. But

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<v Speaker 20>I just want to finish up with this Peggy with

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01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:58.680
<v Speaker 20>the sewer smell.

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<v Speaker 8>I just want to emphasized what the power of the

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01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:07.880
<v Speaker 8>Tom Martino Troubleshooter Show has because of our involvement in bugging,

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01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:13.680
<v Speaker 8>in harassing, and not harassing, just communicating with the management company.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, they were able to because of the involvement of us.

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<v Speaker 8>I just got to stress that because this lady would

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<v Speaker 8>still be there suffering, the management company canceled her lease.

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01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:31.199
<v Speaker 8>They found her a brand new apartment building in her system,

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01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:32.640
<v Speaker 8>in their system.

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01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 9>And they paid for her to move out.

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01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:40.239
<v Speaker 8>Now, I never could figure out where the smell was

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01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:42.800
<v Speaker 8>coming from in the State of Colorado Health Department didn't

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01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:44.520
<v Speaker 8>reveal it to me. But I just think that was

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01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 8>a great story that we were because of the involvement

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01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.920
<v Speaker 8>of the show. They paid for a moving and expenses

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01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:54.079
<v Speaker 8>and canceled her lease. So she's in a nice place.

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01:33:54.479 --> 01:33:57.800
<v Speaker 8>Peggy's in a nice, good place now with no odors.

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<v Speaker 8>So with that, I'd like to turn it back over

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<v Speaker 8>to our Lieutenant Gary Meal spot with the Aurora Police

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01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 8>Department for some questions for him, and we're honored to

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<v Speaker 8>have him in here.

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01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:14.359
<v Speaker 6>Do you have any questions for him?

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<v Speaker 5>Both, yes, I.

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01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.039
<v Speaker 9>Actually uh do.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd like to find out about when you get I've

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01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:26.359
<v Speaker 8>always heard when you get pulled over that basically and

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<v Speaker 8>I've never done this, but basically under the constitution or

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01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.560
<v Speaker 8>our rules of government that you you don't have to

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<v Speaker 8>talk to a police officer.

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<v Speaker 9>David, I'm thinking, do you even have to legally show them?

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<v Speaker 9>The idea?

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<v Speaker 19>If you get pulled over, you are obligated. Driving is

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01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:46.399
<v Speaker 19>not a right, it's a privilege, and you have you

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01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:49.439
<v Speaker 19>have an obligation under the Motor Traffic Motor Vehicle Traffic

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01:34:49.479 --> 01:34:55.000
<v Speaker 19>Code and the Revised Traffic Statutes to provide your driver's license,

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01:34:55.119 --> 01:35:00.439
<v Speaker 19>registration and proof of insurance. You don't necessarily you have to.

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01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:03.680
<v Speaker 19>You can exercise your First Amendment rights. You don't necessarily

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01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:07.199
<v Speaker 19>have to answer any other questions. You're not compelled to

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01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:12.439
<v Speaker 19>do that, but you have to provide that documentation otherwise

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01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:16.039
<v Speaker 19>you can be sighted. And depends on the nature of

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01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:20.960
<v Speaker 19>the charge. There's charges like traffic infractions where there's no

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01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:26.039
<v Speaker 19>jail time involved, and then there are offenses where higher

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01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:29.479
<v Speaker 19>misdemeanor traffic offenses where in fact you could possibly potentially

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<v Speaker 19>be jailed.

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<v Speaker 5>So and you know, and we should mention, you know,

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01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:38.239
<v Speaker 5>refusing to talk to a police officer is not a

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<v Speaker 5>recommended course of action.

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01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:40.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, you know it's it's it's not a recommended

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01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:48.119
<v Speaker 19>course of action. I mean the basics are, you keep

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01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:50.439
<v Speaker 19>your hands where you can see them. If it's night time,

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01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:54.159
<v Speaker 19>you turn your dome light on, don't be reaching into

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01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:56.920
<v Speaker 19>the glove box or under your seat, or it'd be

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01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.039
<v Speaker 19>ideal if you could put your you know, they have

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01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:01.800
<v Speaker 19>these visor clips where you can put your proof of

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01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:07.279
<v Speaker 19>insurance and your registration right there and have those documents

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01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:09.840
<v Speaker 19>accessible and have your hands clearly on the wheel, turn

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<v Speaker 19>your dome light on, right and be.

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01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:16.920
<v Speaker 5>Respectful to really appreciate being able to see your hands

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01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.840
<v Speaker 5>the key as they're approaching your vehicle.

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01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:20.600
<v Speaker 6>That's the key.

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<v Speaker 5>And like the lieutenant said, uh, probably on the steering

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<v Speaker 5>wheel is the best place.

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01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:26.760
<v Speaker 6>That's the best place.

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<v Speaker 19>You don't be reaching in the center console, you don't

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<v Speaker 19>go in the glovebox, you don't go to your seat.

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<v Speaker 19>That's called furtive movements, you know, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 19>peak the suspicion of the officer, obviously from an officer

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<v Speaker 19>safety perspective.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a question for you. Have you ever worked

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<v Speaker 6>in traffic. Yes, I was a supervisor of traffic at

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<v Speaker 6>one point.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so you know the police officers that sit on

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01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:51.920
<v Speaker 5>the side of the road with the gun, the radar gun, right,

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01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:56.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, and it could be laser. What is it

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01:36:56.119 --> 01:37:00.159
<v Speaker 5>could be laser? Could be laser. But my question is

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<v Speaker 5>I've always heard that you if you go nine over okay,

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01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:10.760
<v Speaker 5>now nine miles an hour over the speed limit, and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe thats just applies to the highway. I don't know, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>if you know the speed limit is fifty five, if

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<v Speaker 5>you go sixty four, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Won't get pulled over.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, that's pretty much the discretion of each police department,

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01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:27.760
<v Speaker 19>and especially when it comes to the traffic unit.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you to give our listeners some inside information.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I definitely wouldn't go definitely if I'm I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 19>go over ten miles over the speed limit on the

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<v Speaker 19>highway and obviously the city. I mean when you're talking

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<v Speaker 19>to the city limits, when you're five to nine miles over,

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01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:46.560
<v Speaker 19>then you're looking at getting pulled over. But once again,

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<v Speaker 19>when I'm talking about you got to understand the traffic

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01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:52.239
<v Speaker 19>units in these respective police departments. Should they have one.

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<v Speaker 19>Their whole measure of performance is traffic tickets. I say,

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<v Speaker 19>that's how they.

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<v Speaker 6>Get measured by. I won't.

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<v Speaker 19>I won't be so bold as to say there is

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<v Speaker 19>a quota per se, but it's very dependent on your

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01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:10.000
<v Speaker 19>evaluations and so forth, if you're in traffic and you're

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<v Speaker 19>doing speed enforcement in particular, or maybe they have a

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<v Speaker 19>different campaign going on, like right now, the big campaign

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01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:24.359
<v Speaker 19>is expired plates. They they looked aside for the longest

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<v Speaker 19>time because they had bigger fish to fry, and then

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<v Speaker 19>because of the human cry of the public, because there

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<v Speaker 19>was such an extensive amount of people that were driving

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<v Speaker 19>around and with expired plates or misused plates or what

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<v Speaker 19>have you, then they have certain campaigns just like click

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<v Speaker 19>it or ticket with your seatbelt.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, frankly, I'm from Pennsylvania, and you could not

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<v Speaker 5>drive a vehicle that you had an expired sticker.

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<v Speaker 6>Or when I.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the Colorado albeit it was, you know, nineteen ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 5>long time ago, but I was shocked that people ride

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<v Speaker 5>around Colorado, Denver in particular, with expired place no plates,

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<v Speaker 5>every day license plates and and there was like no consequences.

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<v Speaker 5>It blew my mind. That was it was not like

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<v Speaker 5>that in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it just comes with the times.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, there's certain times where traffic enforcement unless you're

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<v Speaker 19>in a traffic unit as I've mentioned, per se, but

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<v Speaker 19>if you're you're a patrol officer, oftentimes you've got your

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<v Speaker 19>going call to call to call, and you make a

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01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:39.960
<v Speaker 19>traffic contact, you know, then what's going to happen. You're

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<v Speaker 19>going to be tied up quite a bit. And it

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<v Speaker 19>depends on, like I said, the nature of the traffic

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<v Speaker 19>stop itself. And oftentimes, like I said, if you're really

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<v Speaker 19>busy in the peak hours of the shift and you're

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<v Speaker 19>an actual traffic officer on routine patrol, you're usually hammered.

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<v Speaker 19>I know on Aurora, I mean we had so many

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<v Speaker 19>calls pending. Uh, it was beyond on the beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 5>You mean calls that would pull the traffic officers off

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<v Speaker 5>of traffic duty.

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<v Speaker 19>No, not the traffic officers, Okay, the traffic offeroint time.

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<v Speaker 19>The traffic officer would come off duty if it was like,

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01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.479
<v Speaker 19>you know, a very high profile call like a barricaded

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01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.359
<v Speaker 19>gunman or or some sort of a swat call where

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01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:22.640
<v Speaker 19>they needed to secure a perimeter and there was not

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01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:25.399
<v Speaker 19>enough resources, so traffic or whomever would come out there

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01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 19>secure the perimeter of the swat call or something, you know.

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01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:29.880
<v Speaker 6>As egregious as that.

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<v Speaker 19>But as far as routine calls for service, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>maybe an officer would ask for a backup and there

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<v Speaker 19>wasn't any backups really, you know, that were tied up

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01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:42.279
<v Speaker 19>or a certain distance away, then maybe a traffic officer would

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<v Speaker 19>swing by to be a backup officer r you know,

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01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:49.880
<v Speaker 19>but normally, outside those parameters, they're pretty much, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>limited to doing traffic enforcement.

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<v Speaker 5>Really interesting stuff. We have to take a short break.

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<v Speaker 5>Stay tuned in. It'll be to your benefit. We'll be

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01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:01.239
<v Speaker 5>right back after this.

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<v Speaker 10>Time for an insurance checkup free no obligation. Comparison call

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<v Speaker 10>insurance companies find out now three all three seven to

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<v Speaker 10>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 6>Help.

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<v Speaker 10>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1765
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<v Speaker 10>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 10>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 10>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a mean guitar. Right there, you are back listening

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<v Speaker 5>to the Troubleshooter Show. This is Marco Bendinelli filling in

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01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:52.760
<v Speaker 5>for Tom Martino and Mark Major. Privileged to do so

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01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:56.239
<v Speaker 5>U in case you just joined us. We've had a

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01:41:56.359 --> 01:42:02.680
<v Speaker 5>very exciting show today. A number of controversial topics, interesting topics.

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<v Speaker 15>You know.

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01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:07.359
<v Speaker 5>Callers brought up some uh uh you know, some great

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<v Speaker 5>things to talk about. Unfortunately, uh for one, uh we

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01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:17.239
<v Speaker 5>had a you know, a death resulting from a COVID shot.

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01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.359
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, it's been a great show so far. We

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<v Speaker 5>have a special guest with us today, Gary Millspaugh uh

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<v Speaker 5>and we have Deputies Bo and Deputies Dmitri in studio

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<v Speaker 5>with us. Always a pleasure, always exciting. Thank you, Thank

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01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:39.199
<v Speaker 5>you have good things to say and add colorful comments.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, we're going to go to Deputy Dmitri right now. Uh,

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01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:48.840
<v Speaker 5>he has some questions about I think liability insurance.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that what you mentioned?

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<v Speaker 10>Mark?

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<v Speaker 7>You may recall that I said that I have a

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01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:56.439
<v Speaker 7>boatload of insurance. I maxed out all of the policy

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01:42:56.520 --> 01:43:00.439
<v Speaker 7>limits on both my auto and my umbrella policy. And

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<v Speaker 7>I did that not only to protect myself in the

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<v Speaker 7>event of you know, through medpay and similar things, but

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<v Speaker 7>I also did that to protect the other party. In

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<v Speaker 7>case I really do accidentally insure somebody, I feel like

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01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.960
<v Speaker 7>I'll bear some responsibility. So my question is from the

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<v Speaker 7>perspective of a guy who doesn't want to face you

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<v Speaker 7>in court. So the fact that's why, well, now you

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<v Speaker 7>can't represent anybody against me, right because I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 7>this question. So the question is this, since I have

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<v Speaker 7>a boatload of liability, does it make me a much

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<v Speaker 7>more of a juicier target for somebody like you? And

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<v Speaker 7>if so, are you going to put in more time

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<v Speaker 7>and effort and resources into pursuing this case? And furthermore,

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<v Speaker 7>on the other side, because the insurance company is on

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01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:49.520
<v Speaker 7>the hook for such a huge amount of money, can

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<v Speaker 7>I count on them hiring me a better lawyer than

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01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:55.840
<v Speaker 7>the otherwise would if I had just a state mandated minimums.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I answered the last question first.

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<v Speaker 5>He answers no, because, well, they contract with certain firms,

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<v Speaker 5>and regardless of whether you got million dollars worth of

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01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.720
<v Speaker 5>coverage with them or twenty five thousand worth of coverage

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01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:13.680
<v Speaker 5>with them, they'll they'll hire the same typically, they'll hire

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<v Speaker 5>the same defense counsel.

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<v Speaker 6>With unlimited number of hours. Well, they could build, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know, any insurance policy carries with it two

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<v Speaker 5>obligations from the inshort er.

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<v Speaker 6>You got it. That's that's the difficult to say. In

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<v Speaker 6>short er.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, they have a duty to defend and then a

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<v Speaker 5>duty to indemnify. And the duty to defend is what

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01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.159
<v Speaker 5>you're talking about. And so they will get counsel for

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01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:50.119
<v Speaker 5>you and defend any claims against you. Now, you you

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01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:53.640
<v Speaker 5>said you bought you buy lots of liability insurance for

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01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:57.439
<v Speaker 5>two reasons. That's one of them was because I want

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01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:00.399
<v Speaker 5>to be responsible if I hurt somebody that I don't

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01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:04.359
<v Speaker 5>think in thirty years maybe I heard that before, but

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01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:10.600
<v Speaker 5>it's usually a cya, you know, cover your rear. Motivation

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<v Speaker 5>to buy extra insurance, Yeah, Marco, I don't want a

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<v Speaker 5>lifetime of guilt if I do make a mistake and

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01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:17.720
<v Speaker 5>cost someone's life.

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<v Speaker 7>Or health or their ability to move around. That is

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01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:21.039
<v Speaker 7>a I don't want to live with that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a rare perspective, and I applaud you for that.

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<v Speaker 5>But your primary question is, you know, does that make

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<v Speaker 5>you a bigger target? Tom, who has an issue with

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01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:34.560
<v Speaker 5>carpet mill, will be right with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom, stay on the line.

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<v Speaker 5>But in answering Deputy Dmitry's question, the answer is likely no,

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<v Speaker 5>that you would not be a bigger target because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when a case, for example, a case comes into my office, right,

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01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:57.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, I evaluate cases based on two preliminary criteria.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one is liability, right you know, with someone else responsible.

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01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:08.640
<v Speaker 5>And number two is damages and whatever the damages are,

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<v Speaker 5>the damages are.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't really think.

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01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:15.439
<v Speaker 5>That you can you know, you know, if you have

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01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:18.840
<v Speaker 5>a ten thousand dollars claim, you know the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>the defendant has a million dollars of insurance, you know,

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01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:29.399
<v Speaker 5>because really you can't push or or you can't overestimate

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01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:33.600
<v Speaker 5>the value of damages. Do you know, even after thirty years,

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01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:36.199
<v Speaker 5>I think to myself sometimes when I'm reviewing a file

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01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:38.960
<v Speaker 5>or sitting and talking with a client.

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01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:44.319
<v Speaker 6>You know, my evaluation is what would a jury do right?

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01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Because you know, people think that, you know, there's runaway

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01:46:47.920 --> 01:46:50.199
<v Speaker 5>juries and outrageous verdicts, and.

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01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:53.880
<v Speaker 6>You know that hasn't been my experience.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like, these are regular people and you're

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01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:00.880
<v Speaker 5>going to have to tell them a story about what happened,

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01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:05.319
<v Speaker 5>what your damages were, you know, what harm was incurred,

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01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:09.199
<v Speaker 5>and they're going to be reasonable people, and you know

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01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:12.159
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna they're gonna come back, Hopefully they're gonna come

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01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:15.359
<v Speaker 5>back with something that's fair. And you know, and and

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<v Speaker 5>even though I talked earlier about the fact that my

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<v Speaker 5>law firm I think is different than others in that

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01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:26.319
<v Speaker 5>we litigate cases more than others. Were not a settlement meal.

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01:47:27.359 --> 01:47:35.199
<v Speaker 5>We actually represent clients. You know, it's about uh, getting

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<v Speaker 5>the insurance carrier to be fair?

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<v Speaker 6>And are we are? We moving into a break right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Tom, stay on the line.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be with you.

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<v Speaker 5>I talked too much, Uh, stay on, stay tuned in.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be back after this.

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<v Speaker 10>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rip.

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<v Speaker 5>reach us now. We have a caller on online. Tom

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<v Speaker 5>three oh three Martino or three O three seven one

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<v Speaker 5>three Talk. You can also email us at help at

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<v Speaker 5>troubleshooter dot com and we don't have to be on

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<v Speaker 5>the air for you to email us. You can email

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<v Speaker 5>us at any time in a day and we will

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<v Speaker 5>get it and we will be responding to you. So

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<v Speaker 5>Tom is on the line. Tom has an issue with

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<v Speaker 5>carpet meal. That's all I know. So I'm gonna ask Tom,

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<v Speaker 5>what is your issue with carpet meal?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I there?

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<v Speaker 6>You are there, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? About a month ago I went to get carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a project in the basement, okay. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a Thursday. I went into a carpet store

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<v Speaker 1>and picked out carpet, and then Sunday the guy came

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<v Speaker 1>out and measured.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, that's usually how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh so Monday. That was Sunday, like a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago. Monday. I came in, I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>the carpet store, signed a bunch of papers, gave him

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<v Speaker 1>my credit card number. He took money out of my

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<v Speaker 1>credit card and say, okay, next Monday, we'll install. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, you said that. Okay, So what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>They Monday came, nobody showed up.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom, Hang on second, Tom.

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<v Speaker 7>So are we to understand that today came, which is

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<v Speaker 7>also Monday.

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<v Speaker 5>And you still don't compet?

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<v Speaker 1>This was Monday, three three weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know, I know, but we're talking. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 7>about today, which is also Monday. Do you have your

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<v Speaker 7>new carpet or not?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have my new carpet.

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<v Speaker 6>Why not.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody showed up?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm sure you called them. What they said?

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<v Speaker 1>I paid them sixteen dollars for the carpet. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to pay for the carpet and the installation. I

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<v Speaker 1>refuse to pay for the installation until after it's done.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that why they haven't installed the carpet, because you

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<v Speaker 7>haven't paid for the installation.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they said they came today, and nobody came today.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>After this was after we settled the first dispute.

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<v Speaker 6>So I heard what what?

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<v Speaker 15>What?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 5>How many disputes were there? I thought there was only one.

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<v Speaker 5>You paid for the carpet and they didn't deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you won't let me. Do you want me to

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01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:19.079
<v Speaker 1>let me explain? Well, first time, the first time I

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01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>called and they said that I didn't sign the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>This was three weeks ago. So I went back to

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01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the store that week and I signed another contract, and

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01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:35.760
<v Speaker 1>then that was supposed to be all good until this monday.

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<v Speaker 1>They were supposed to come this Monday and install it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was going to pay for the installation

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<v Speaker 1>after it was done. Well, they never came today.

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<v Speaker 21>I hate to break it to you, but today's not over.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already talked to them. They said they were here.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't here. They said they called, they didn't call.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's to the point where I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to use these guys the carpet mill anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Which there's a bunch of carpet mills in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 6>Which which story are you talking about? There are?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you want me to specify the store,

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<v Speaker 1>this the one on West.

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<v Speaker 6>Colfax by Denver West.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not that Colefax and Kipling.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, okay, So.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell them are they going to reschedule the installation and

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<v Speaker 7>show up on another day?

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<v Speaker 1>Or they call and they said they won't reschedule it

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<v Speaker 1>unless I pay for the installation.

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<v Speaker 5>So do you think the whole thing is related to uh,

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<v Speaker 5>prepayment for the installation.

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<v Speaker 6>It seemed like they told you that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, we had it. We had it to where

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to pay for the installation untill after

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<v Speaker 1>it was done.

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<v Speaker 6>And they agreed to that.

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<v Speaker 1>They agreed to that. So you gave him sixteen hundred

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01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:05.720
<v Speaker 1>dollars agreed to that?

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<v Speaker 6>You gave him sixteen hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I paid for the carpet, yes.

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<v Speaker 6>And how much is the installation?

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<v Speaker 1>It was another sixteen hundred or thirteen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay. And and did you talk to the manager

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, okay, you don't have to pay for

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01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:27.720
<v Speaker 5>the installation until after we inssaw the carpet.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you have that agreement?

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<v Speaker 1>We had that agreement until today in writing? In writing, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So is there a reason that that you wouldn't pay

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01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:49.439
<v Speaker 5>for the installation. It seemed like, you know, they're a

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01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:50.479
<v Speaker 5>big business, they're.

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01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:52.279
<v Speaker 1>A reputabilitation before it's done.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well you paid for the carpet before you before

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01:55:56.600 --> 01:55:57.880
<v Speaker 5>you had it in your possession.

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01:55:57.960 --> 01:56:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Never pay up front, Never pay up front for anything.

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<v Speaker 15>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like, well, you know what, Listen, we'll investigate

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01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:07.279
<v Speaker 5>that off that time.

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<v Speaker 9>Tom, this is bo.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you want me to call over there during the

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01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:15.880
<v Speaker 8>break find out about this agreement you have with getting

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01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:18.000
<v Speaker 8>paying them when the job is done. I mean, if

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01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:21.439
<v Speaker 8>you have something in writing or from the manager of

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01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:24.119
<v Speaker 8>the carpet mail on colfax, you should be a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 8>That sounds like to me. It sounds like to me,

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01:56:29.239 --> 01:56:32.640
<v Speaker 8>you just want to maybe cancel the whole deal. That's

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm getting from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, at this point, maybe I do. All

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01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I want is carpet in the basement, and I don't

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01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:43.600
<v Speaker 1>want to I'm not going to pay for the installation

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<v Speaker 1>till after it's done.

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<v Speaker 9>And now, Tom, what did they actually go ahead?

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01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:53.159
<v Speaker 5>And they may say, and they may say, we're not

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01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:56.279
<v Speaker 5>installing the carpet until you pay for the carpet and

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01:56:56.279 --> 01:56:56.920
<v Speaker 5>the installation.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you talked to Tom Martino lately? What Tom Martini

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01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:03.720
<v Speaker 1>pay for installation until after it's done?

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<v Speaker 6>You know what.

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01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:08.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna speak for Tom, h but well, you

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01:57:08.359 --> 01:57:10.560
<v Speaker 5>know what we'll do is listen, you think.

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<v Speaker 21>We should come in the last forty years, then don't

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01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:16.399
<v Speaker 21>do business with the company if you've got to pay

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<v Speaker 21>for everything up front. My friend, It's that simple. That's

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01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:23.680
<v Speaker 21>what Tom has said for years. You can plays and

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01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:26.439
<v Speaker 21>he's got no problem with whatever.

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01:57:26.720 --> 01:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna pay for the installation until after it's done.

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<v Speaker 21>And you have an agreement with that. You've got the

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01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:34.039
<v Speaker 21>contract written out's stating that fact.

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01:57:34.159 --> 01:57:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Agreement with that.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, it is written in the content.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk to general man the job said Tom, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it till after.

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<v Speaker 21>Tom everything Tom, Tom, Oh, are you thereready?

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<v Speaker 6>Dragon? Tom?

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01:57:49.039 --> 01:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 21>Okay, You've got that written in the contract from the

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01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:55.319
<v Speaker 21>manager stating for the fact that you do not have

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01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:58.399
<v Speaker 21>to pay for installation until it is done. Yes or no,

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01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:01.319
<v Speaker 21>that's right, perfect right. Email that over to us and

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<v Speaker 21>we'll work on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you do that?

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<v Speaker 9>It's good advice, dragon.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom. Can you do that?

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01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Call that guy out there.

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<v Speaker 21>Tom. We will need the contract in order to fight

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01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.319
<v Speaker 21>for you. Do you have that in the contract?

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01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:20.760
<v Speaker 15>Don't know?

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01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Then no, I've got it.

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01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:28.680
<v Speaker 6>You seem pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 9>But listen, that's good advice dragon Tom.

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<v Speaker 8>Just email us the contracts so we can look at

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01:58:34.239 --> 01:58:37.399
<v Speaker 8>it and if that language is stated, we'll call over there.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, so email that and we have your

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01:58:42.199 --> 01:58:45.960
<v Speaker 5>number and we will investigate that. We need to see

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01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:49.960
<v Speaker 5>it in the contract obviously, and uh, and we'll investigate

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<v Speaker 5>it for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, Tom, Uh, we're gonna cut bye, Tom, see you, Tom.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna go to Joseph. Uh. You know what.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, we we are limited by our.

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01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:11.279
<v Speaker 6>Humanness and so we will uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Cut ties with Tom.

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<v Speaker 9>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Joseph, you have a question of fire returny. We

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01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:21.079
<v Speaker 5>need to take a short break, So stay on the

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<v Speaker 5>line and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 10>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

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<v Speaker 10>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 5>I'll let you listen to that music just another second

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02:00:12.399 --> 02:00:16.119
<v Speaker 5>or two more because it was so good. Anyway, if

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02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:19.800
<v Speaker 5>you just joined us, you you've just you missed an

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02:00:19.840 --> 02:00:26.119
<v Speaker 5>exciting time where we had a caller start swearing and screaming,

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02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:28.239
<v Speaker 5>and you know makes for exciting radio.

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02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:30.279
<v Speaker 6>We want to help consumers.

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02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino, uh set that precedent, and you know Tom

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02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:39.760
<v Speaker 5>is is the is the national leader. Really he's been

2096
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<v Speaker 5>doing this show, The Troubleshooter for forty five years. And

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02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:50.119
<v Speaker 5>so call us what a problem. We will help. Tom

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<v Speaker 5>called and had a problem with carpet meal. But perhaps

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02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:58.920
<v Speaker 5>he did not want to pay for the services. And

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino does say, you know, you could pay for

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<v Speaker 5>materials and maybe not pay for installation or for the

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<v Speaker 5>work being done until.

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<v Speaker 6>It was completed.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently Carpet Mill doesn't do things like that, and so

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<v Speaker 5>Tom needed to do business with someone else basically. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>that was rather exciting. This is my first time hosting

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<v Speaker 5>for Tom Martino and Mark Major, and I've never had

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<v Speaker 5>so that would be the first time I had someone

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<v Speaker 5>swear at me on the radio. Rather exciting for a Monday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's not the first time that happened here.

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<v Speaker 7>But dragging behind the glass over there is pretty good

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<v Speaker 7>at intercepting these and re walked down the clock.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got some kind of a time machine over there,

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<v Speaker 6>something like that. I wasn't prepared for that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I could have been, frankly, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>we are here to help. Three to three Martino, three

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<v Speaker 5>oh three Martino.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got a couple open lines.

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<v Speaker 5>You can call in or email us at help at

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<v Speaker 5>troubleshooter dot com.

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<v Speaker 9>I have a question for Gary there, Marco Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary is our special guests in studio, Gary Millspaw. He

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<v Speaker 5>is a retired Aurora police officer. Uh and he's ready

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<v Speaker 5>to field a question by Duppy bow.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just.

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<v Speaker 8>His dad is actually gold plated. I took a picture

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<v Speaker 8>of it. I'm gonna bargain for it after the show.

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<v Speaker 8>So Gary, I've always wondered this, if, please, when you

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<v Speaker 8>get pulled over and we're talking about a person's constitutional rights,

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<v Speaker 8>what's the story when a police officer asks you to

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<v Speaker 8>step out of the car. Are you under I know

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<v Speaker 8>you're not really under obligation to talk to him, but constitutionally,

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<v Speaker 8>do I have to step out of the step out

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<v Speaker 8>of the car.

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<v Speaker 19>That's an interesting question. Yes, here's what I would it

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<v Speaker 19>is there is case law that from an officer safety perspective,

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<v Speaker 19>if he asked you to get out of the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 19>you need to get out of the vehicle. Otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 19>going to be a bad outcome, especially depending on the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 19>Obviously every situation is different. What was the nature of

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<v Speaker 19>the contact? What I would say is, if you get

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<v Speaker 19>pulled over, do not get out of the car until

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<v Speaker 19>unless the officer asked you to get out of the car.

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<v Speaker 19>Because there's been I've seen and experienced and seen had

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<v Speaker 19>bad results and seen so many videos which we see

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<v Speaker 19>all the videos all the time in training during briefings

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<v Speaker 19>of officers getting attacked or violently attacked or even killed

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<v Speaker 19>by people that are coming out of their vehicle and

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<v Speaker 19>coming toward them, and then they pull produce a weapon

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<v Speaker 19>sometimes of what have you. So I would highly recommend

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<v Speaker 19>if you get pulled over, stay in the car. Do

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<v Speaker 19>not get out of the car. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>there could be a variety of reasons why you're being contacted.

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<v Speaker 19>You might not even know. You may know why you're

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<v Speaker 19>being contacted. You may know your speeding, you may know

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<v Speaker 19>that you were driving radically, or maybe you don't know

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<v Speaker 19>why you're being pulled over. But either way, do not

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<v Speaker 19>get out of the vehicle unless the officer asks you.

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<v Speaker 19>And then if the officer does, for officers safety, ask

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<v Speaker 19>you to get out of the vehicle, then get out

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<v Speaker 19>of the vehicle. You don't necessarily have to violate your

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<v Speaker 19>First Amendment rights. As I said before, it's a different

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<v Speaker 19>thing if an officer asks you, is that address on

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<v Speaker 19>your driver's license valid? Is the registration the address of valid?

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<v Speaker 19>Because if they're going to issue a ticket, they've got

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<v Speaker 19>to know that you're going to show up at court

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<v Speaker 19>and that they have accurate information whereas to send this,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, to summons or whatever. If you don't appear

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<v Speaker 19>otherwise you got some other problems. If they have reasona

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<v Speaker 19>believe you're not going to appear in court, then you

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<v Speaker 19>might have to be post to bail.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, that's the point.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I got a question for Deputy both Why is

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<v Speaker 5>that a? Why was that?

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<v Speaker 6>Your second question?

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<v Speaker 5>On?

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<v Speaker 6>How do I?

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<v Speaker 5>How am I able to not cooperate with law enforcement?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's never happened to me, But I'm just curious

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<v Speaker 8>if someone if an officer asks someone to get out

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<v Speaker 8>of the car, let's say it's a suspicion for do

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<v Speaker 8>you why? I just don't think constitutionally a person has

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<v Speaker 8>an obligation to step out of the car. And then

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<v Speaker 8>what does the officer do? Because Gary, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 8>had instances where people will not get out of the

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<v Speaker 8>car which you've asked them to get out of the car.

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<v Speaker 9>So what is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Next how do you do roadside sobriety tests or roadside

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<v Speaker 5>maneuvers if you won't get out of the vehicle when

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<v Speaker 5>the officer suspects that you're intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, is what a criminal offense to not get out

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<v Speaker 9>of the car?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that a Well?

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<v Speaker 19>You know, I understanding from case law from an office

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<v Speaker 19>is purely from an officer's safety viewpoint that you need

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<v Speaker 19>to get out of the car if the officer feels

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<v Speaker 19>that his safety may be in jeopardy. As far as

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<v Speaker 19>roadside maneuvers, you can decline they're consensual. You don't have

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<v Speaker 19>to do roadside maneuvers if the officer asked me to do.

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<v Speaker 19>You're not under you're not compelled to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, you're not compelled, so you don't have to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't have to do road you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say as a general consensus, UH to cooperate

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<v Speaker 5>with law enforcement and things are likely to not escalate

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<v Speaker 5>with a with a police officer if you cooperate, I

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<v Speaker 5>would say that the chances dramatically increase that the circumstance

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<v Speaker 5>and the situation will escalate should you be defiant, uncooperative, disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, those those character traits are probably not

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<v Speaker 5>useful in any circumstance.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, well, you're correct, because it could lead to an

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<v Speaker 19>officer's discretion if he has the ability to end up

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<v Speaker 19>placing you under arrest, whereas he could let you go

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<v Speaker 19>maybe by a summons and one In either case, whether

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<v Speaker 19>he lets you go with summons and whatever the case

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<v Speaker 19>may be, he's going to put in his notes what

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<v Speaker 19>your attitude was. He's going to mark that down. He's

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<v Speaker 19>gonna be very specific on how you responded to the

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<v Speaker 19>contact to your point and the assistant DA. When he

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<v Speaker 19>gets that that case brought before him and he reads

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<v Speaker 19>the officer's notes, you're probably less inclined to get some.

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<v Speaker 10>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 10>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for joining us. This is the Trouble Shooter Show. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino and Mark Major are not here. I'm filling in.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Marco Bendinelli.

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<v Speaker 6>We are well.

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<v Speaker 5>My firm represents injured people. We're a personal injury law firm,

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<v Speaker 5>and I am.

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<v Speaker 6>Privileged to be here today.

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<v Speaker 5>Just really taken back, honored that Tom and Mark would

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<v Speaker 5>trust me to host this show. It's been great, it's

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<v Speaker 5>been fun, it's been exciting. Uh, it's been a rather

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<v Speaker 5>up at the Monday. Uh, and time has flown. So

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<v Speaker 5>we're glad you're tuning in. We're glad for your appreciate

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<v Speaker 5>your calls. We invite more. Give us a call at

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<v Speaker 5>three oh three Martino, three three Martino, and let us

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<v Speaker 5>know what's going on with you. Are you having problems

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02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:12.560
<v Speaker 5>with a contractor are you having problems with anything anything

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<v Speaker 5>that's consumer related. This show was built by Tom Martino

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<v Speaker 5>as a consumer advocate. Forty five years later, he is

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<v Speaker 5>still strong and helping people that have been taking advantage

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02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:34.760
<v Speaker 5>of need help, been ripped off, been you know, suffered

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<v Speaker 5>something some harm at the hand of a scammer. So

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<v Speaker 5>give us a call, we will help. Earlier today, Deputy

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<v Speaker 5>Bo gave us a little update on previous callers. And

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<v Speaker 5>so just to let you folks know that you're not

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<v Speaker 5>talking into the abyss. There is follow up here. There

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<v Speaker 5>are people that care, you know, and your situation will

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<v Speaker 5>be investigated. Uh and uh hopefully we will get you

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<v Speaker 5>some justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>So we appreciate you listening. We appreciate your calls. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>three oh three Martino. You know Tom has been uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we we listened to a rather emotional description

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<v Speaker 5>as to why Tom had been out for months and

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<v Speaker 5>uh and Mark Major gave us some details on that,

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<v Speaker 5>I think for the first time last week. Uh in

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, Tom had been diagnosed, unfortunately with pancreatic cancer.

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<v Speaker 5>And Mark was very emotional as he related to the

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<v Speaker 5>listeners Tom's plight, but was happy to report, more than

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<v Speaker 5>happy to report, really shed tears of joy that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody knows that if you're going to have cancer, Lord

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<v Speaker 5>knows you don't want pancreatic cancer. You know, that is typically.

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<v Speaker 6>A death sentence. You know, I won't mince words.

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<v Speaker 5>And fortunately Tom underwent a surgery that the surgeon was

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<v Speaker 5>able to extract all of the cancer. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Tom is going to be fully recovered. He is in

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<v Speaker 5>the three percent of people that survive pancreatic cancer. And

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<v Speaker 5>so we are very very happy about that. We enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>and you know Tom, and you know, he is such

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<v Speaker 5>a talent and he is such a sincere consumer advocate.

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<v Speaker 5>He's done so much for so many people. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we you know, consumers in general. Oh Tom, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a debt of gratitude. He's devoted his life to this.

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<v Speaker 5>This is his calling, you know, and he excels at it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, one of the reasons that he's been

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<v Speaker 5>so successful is because of his sincerity in wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>bring justice and you know, uncover unscrupulous vendors, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and so his longstanding success forty five years, the longest

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<v Speaker 5>syndicated radio show in the country, you know, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>happen by accident. And you know, and his popularity, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>is due to his sincerity into what he does. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is not a game for Tom. This is his life,

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<v Speaker 5>and he cares about consumers. He cares by consumer rates

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<v Speaker 5>and and he zealously pursues remedies for people that have

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<v Speaker 5>been ripped off, you know, people that have been cheated.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's been taking your calls, he's been listening

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<v Speaker 5>to your concerns, and he's been answering questions and solving problems.

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<v Speaker 5>And we are happy to report that Tom will be

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<v Speaker 5>back in this chair, continuing his mission. We're very grateful

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<v Speaker 5>for that. Went an asset you know, to folks everywhere,

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<v Speaker 5>and Mark Major too, Mark has been with Tom what

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years something.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that, something like that, forever and ever and ever.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and again, and Mark major shares Tom's passion

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why they've been such a successful team.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really it's really wonderful one. And I'm just privileged

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<v Speaker 5>to have been exposed to this little bit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been down here as a guest a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's really compelling. You know, the passion,

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<v Speaker 5>the sincerity, you know, the focus, and so I am

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<v Speaker 5>I'm honored to be sitting in Tom's chair.

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<v Speaker 7>Frankly, Mark, I don't know if this is I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's a good time to ask you for a follow

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<v Speaker 7>up on a case that you called in or we

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<v Speaker 7>called you about a month and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Now, I'm.

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<v Speaker 7>Used to lawyers in movies saying, hey, I can't comment

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<v Speaker 7>on pending litigations, so that's your out. But but to

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<v Speaker 7>the extent that you can answer or at least bring

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<v Speaker 7>us a little bit up to date on this. You

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<v Speaker 7>may recall about a month month and a half ago,

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<v Speaker 7>a lady called us because her husband unfortunately died as

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<v Speaker 7>a result of choking, and she found out that he

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<v Speaker 7>had an accidental death.

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<v Speaker 5>Policy through his employer, and I can tell you about

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<v Speaker 5>that case, but we need to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 5>We can't take it.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 5>So stay tuned and you're going to hear about a

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<v Speaker 5>real life circumstance on a life insurance denial. We'll be

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<v Speaker 5>right back after the break. As a guitar player myself,

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<v Speaker 5>I just love that lead guitar. This is Marco Bendinelli

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<v Speaker 5>from the Bendinelli Law Firm, filling in for Tom Martino

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<v Speaker 5>and Mark Major.

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<v Speaker 6>Please to do so, honor, to do so.

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<v Speaker 5>Prior to the break, Deputy Dmitri asked me a question

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<v Speaker 5>about a prior case, which I will answer. However, we've

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<v Speaker 5>got a caller on the line who has a question

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<v Speaker 5>for our special guest, Gary millsbah a retired I said,

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<v Speaker 5>retired police officer. Us are previously and that's not inaccurate,

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<v Speaker 5>but he was actually a lieutenant, and you know there's

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<v Speaker 5>some honor and distinction that comes with that. So that

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<v Speaker 5>is who Gary Millspaw is. He's a retired lieutenant from

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<v Speaker 5>the Aurora Police Department. And we have Pat on the

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<v Speaker 5>line who has a question for Gary.

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<v Speaker 22>Go ahead, Pat good afternoon, gentlemen. Hey, in watching a

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<v Speaker 22>few of those late night police shows, a lot of

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<v Speaker 22>people don't have driver's license when they pull them over.

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<v Speaker 22>How prevalent is that?

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<v Speaker 19>Actually, it's not that prevalent, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, most people that we contact, if I had

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<v Speaker 19>to give you a percentage was they did have in

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<v Speaker 19>fact the driver's license. Oftentimes it's an expired driver's license.

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<v Speaker 19>Oftentimes it's a suspended driver's license they have or revoke

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<v Speaker 19>driver's license. That we find out obviously when we run

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<v Speaker 19>it through the database. But as far as people just

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<v Speaker 19>having no valid driver's license period, it's it's kind of unusual,

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<v Speaker 19>but these stakes are a lot higher if you have

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<v Speaker 19>a revoked or a suspended license for a variety of reasons,

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<v Speaker 19>to pay child support DUIs in the past, whatever the

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<v Speaker 19>case may be. Versus a person that just does not

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<v Speaker 19>have a valid driver's license, it's a much lower offense.

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<v Speaker 22>Okay, Okay, Well I just wonder what about people with

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<v Speaker 22>no insurance.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, we do come across a lot of that. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 19>with that, yes, there is a lot larger population that

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<v Speaker 19>does not have valid driver's license or valid insurance. Oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 19>as you would figure we find that out not only

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<v Speaker 19>traffic stops, but primarily at accident scenes.

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<v Speaker 6>Gary.

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<v Speaker 7>What percentage of the driving population out there would you

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<v Speaker 7>say is uninsured?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, as far as the contacts that I would have,

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<v Speaker 19>I'm just going to say from personal context, I would

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<v Speaker 19>say about forty percent and maybe a lot higher.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>What yeah, wow?

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<v Speaker 22>Shots, Yeah, yeah, that's why we pay uninsured motorists coverage

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<v Speaker 22>and underinsured motorists coverage.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Pat, I'm gonna jump in there on that comment.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on a second here, Listen, that is the most important, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>part of everybody's car insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 6>And rarely do people know that h M.

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<v Speaker 5>We call it UM which is uninsured and underinsured motorists.

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<v Speaker 5>That is absolutely the most critical part of your car

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<v Speaker 5>insurance because if that coverage steps into an AT steps

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<v Speaker 5>into the shoes of an at fault.

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<v Speaker 6>Party, that may injure you.

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<v Speaker 5>So really, if they are uninsured, or if they have

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<v Speaker 5>state minimums twenty five thousand, uh, you know, then your

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<v Speaker 5>UM coverridge kicks in. And I've you know, being a

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<v Speaker 5>personal injury lawyer for thirty years, you know, I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>some tragic things, some terrible things, and that M check.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes people you're more likely to be disabled in a

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<v Speaker 5>car accident than anything else. And that M check is

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<v Speaker 5>the last check people see before they get some security disability.

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<v Speaker 5>And so anybody that's listening, all the listeners, it is

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<v Speaker 5>the most important part of your car insurance policy. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and don't listen to the hype. Got fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 5>say fifteen percent on your car insurance. That is not

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<v Speaker 5>the place to be saving money, you know, and people

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<v Speaker 5>don't know that until you know, tragedy strikes. And so anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>we thank you for listening. I appreciate Tom the esteemed

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<v Speaker 5>respected hosts Tom Martine and Mark Major allowing me to

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<v Speaker 5>fill in. Uh, we'll be back at you tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Make sure you're listening. Save all your problems for us,

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<v Speaker 5>keep keep your dial tuned.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see us soon. Thank you,
