WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:29.359 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:30.000 the poll? 4 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.200 The question why. 5 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:41.159 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the 6 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:48.560 truth we find. They built their tails on grafts and 7 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.280 lives on theories. 8 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.280 They stake their designed. 9 00:00:55.399 --> 00:01:02.880 Put down here on this solid grap the answer screen. 10 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:08.719 They're all around, Rise and break. 11 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.079 Through all the lies. 12 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:17.640 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 13 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:22.519 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm 14 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.799 your host, as always, George Hobbes. As we record it 15 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.120 is Monday, April twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. We've had 16 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.719 beautiful spring weather and we've commenced fishing. As I was 17 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:35.680 talking to our guests before we got started, just a 18 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.319 beautiful time of year, and I hope this message finds 19 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.519 you well. Two quick mentions before we get started, Please 20 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:45.840 do stop by the new websitetruthernet dot com and even 21 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:47.560 if you put in the old address, you will be 22 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.319 steered in the direction of our new website. Lots to 23 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.920 do there. Feel free to reach out on our contact 24 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.799 listing there, or you could email me like Matt did, 25 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:03.480 and the email addressed is f e Files guest at 26 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:07.200 gmail dot com. Again it is fe filesguest at gmail 27 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.400 dot com. We're now booking for June, so feel free 28 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.360 to reach out and we'd love to hear your story. 29 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.080 Everyone has one, and without any further ado, we're going 30 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.919 to hear Matt's story and Matt is joining us from 31 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.039 the Show Me State. And Matt, again, thank you so 32 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.280 much for taking the time out to join us tonight. 33 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.800 How are you, sir, I'm good, sir. Thank you for 34 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:28.240 having me. 35 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.560 It's a pleasure to have you and I love that 36 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.520 part of the country. And without any further ado, please 37 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.199 feel free to introduce yourself. 38 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.159 Well, I'm Matt, and like you said, I'm from the 39 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:47.120 Show Me State. I've always been a conspiracy guy. My 40 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.639 father was the one who introduced me to conspiracies, you know, 41 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:56.120 at a young age, starting with Fast Watch, and it 42 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.680 just they just grew from there. I've always questioned everything, 43 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:05.120 from government to just to everything. One thing I never 44 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:11.879 questioned was the shape of the earth. It's just one 45 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.719 of those ones that eluded me. And then when I 46 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.479 did finally start to kind of gain some traction to 47 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.639 look into it, I fell cook line and singer for 48 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.360 the documentary on there on Netflix that behind the kind 49 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:27.560 of yep, kind of steered me wrong for a bit, 50 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:31.000 but I got back on track in twenty twenty two, 51 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:36.199 and I know now I can't believe it. It's just one 52 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.240 of those things when you when it finally hits you, 53 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.080 it's like, seriously, how did I miss all this? 54 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.919 Yeah? And that's I just wrote an article today on 55 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.159 my website talking about Gatekeeping one oh one and how 56 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.000 many of these people or many of these documentaries are 57 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:59.520 put in place to almost get you there, and then 58 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:01.879 they they hang a quick left and get you away 59 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.360 from from the real truth. 60 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:07.319 Yep, for sure. 61 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.159 And it's funny you mentioned Sasquatch because this weekend I 62 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:16.279 was talking with a relative and Sasquatch bigfoot that was 63 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:18.720 kind of a big deal in the late seventies and 64 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.680 early eighties. It was very mainstream, and I know there 65 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.480 is a very popular podcast that covers it, but I 66 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.079 feel like that it was more of a llure back 67 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.879 in the seventies and eighties than it is today. What's 68 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:33.639 your thoughts on that. 69 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.360 I'm along the lines of the nephelum, believing that if 70 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:44.360 there's out there, that's what they are. 71 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.879 Yes, that's many people have said that, and I'm starting 72 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.879 to believe that's a great point. Once again gatekeeping. They 73 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.199 want you to believe that there's this conspiracy theory that 74 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:58.000 there's this one or two, you know, unidentified walking mammals 75 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.680 that's nine feet tall, hairy, long arms. But then you 76 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:07.199 start to do further research and you know, maybe the 77 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.680 pyramids were done by these people. Maybe Sasquatch is actually 78 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.160 this person, and so on and so forth, and the 79 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.360 other thing. I wanted to ask you maybe a little 80 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.560 early in delving into this, but we're already here. You 81 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.199 mentioned behind the curve, and that is very much gatekeeping. 82 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.199 One oh one, right, what was your thoughts on the 83 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:27.439 final experiment? 84 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:35.319 Oh my gosh, wow, that's that's that's loaded there, man. 85 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:43.319 I'm just I don't think that was the end all. 86 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:47.600 First off, there's there's too many other things, you know. 87 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:48.480 I know that. 88 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.839 There's other models out there of the flat Earth that 89 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:57.199 show at twenty four hours son and Antarctic Alonzo's Stephen 90 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.399 Alonzo's model. 91 00:05:58.160 --> 00:05:59.399 Does I think? 92 00:05:59.519 --> 00:05:59.680 Uh? 93 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.240 And the or I can't remember the other guy's name 94 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.040 who who has a working model with a twenty four 95 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.360 hours son, So you know it was. 96 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:12.240 I don't know. 97 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:13.600 I don't know if it's fake. I don't know if 98 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:20.279 it's real. It's a lot of divided the community, which 99 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:21.519 was the sad part of it. 100 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.959 That's what I took away from the most from it, 101 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:24.240 you know. 102 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:29.439 Yeah, and I'm sure that was one of I'm sure 103 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.600 they had several goals. One was to revert flat earthers 104 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.800 back to the globe. But number two was, like anything else, 105 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.000 infiltrate a movement, whether you know, whatever the case may be. Sorry, 106 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:49.639 I have a large piece of farming equipment just went by. 107 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:54.040 But to infiltrate these movements, these truth movements or anti 108 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.319 government movements, insert that, they infiltrate it and they ruin it. 109 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.360 And you may be the first or maybe the second 110 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:08.480 person to mention doctor Alonzo. I think he's a Canadian guy, 111 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.920 if I'm not mistaken. Maybe he's English, but. 112 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.600 He lives and believe or believe. 113 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.560 Oh so he's down in Central America. Now yeah, okay, 114 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.399 but I think he. I think he's a well educated person, 115 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:27.160 and I think he has the self proclaimed Flattereth University. 116 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:27.920 Am I right there? 117 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:30.759 Yes, yes, yes he does. 118 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:38.680 I may have. He calls it geocentric, cosmology. He does. 119 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.199 One thing I do think is interesting is he puts 120 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.920 a lot of time and effort into the firmament. Yes, 121 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:47.560 he does, and that's very interesting. 122 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:49.680 He even he. 123 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.279 Even had an app for a while where you could 124 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:54.720 like be part of it and like take pictures and 125 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.319 document so as he was building that model, No kid, 126 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:00.839 I loved into it and tried to be a part 127 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.480 of it, but I wasn't selected. 128 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.240 But oh, it is what it is. 129 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.199 Yeah, sure, that's interesting. Why don't we get a little 130 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.759 bit into your journey to the truth. You know, you 131 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.240 had mentioned in your intro that you were conspiracy minded 132 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.759 at an early age. But what kind of led you 133 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:23.600 to believe that, you know, all of this history and 134 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:28.600 architecture and the moon landing is presented that is being 135 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.720 presented to us as fake? When did you start to 136 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.159 notice that this world we live in is not what 137 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:36.039 they say it is. 138 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.480 I I was pretty quick to the nine to eleven, 139 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.759 you know, after that had happened, and even though I 140 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.000 didn't know everything that was going on like I do today, 141 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.039 I knew it wasn't what we were told. I mean, 142 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:56.080 I was watching live on television when that happened, you know, and. 143 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:03.559 It's awful. Whatever happened happened, but it's not what we're told. 144 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:08.240 And you know from there it was just the moon 145 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.879 landing for example, that you know, my dad told me 146 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:15.039 that never happened, you know, and I've watched several things 147 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.039 on that, and you know, I'm an agree on so 148 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.200 you know, just didn't happen. It couldn't get past the 149 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:29.519 van ael and radiation man built back then, if that's 150 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:34.360 what you believe, you know, that's just metals. I work 151 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:39.519 with metal, and it is there's certain temperatures that you know, 152 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.960 make or break it, and it would have never made 153 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.879 it past the temperatures that they fed, you know, anything 154 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.559 we had built at that time. So I know it's 155 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.759 a no go, one hundred percent no goo on that flatters. 156 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:59.559 I started hearing some rumblings, you know, and then it 157 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.799 came out some basketball star was talking about it, and 158 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.159 I'm not a basketball fan, so but I heard him mentioning, 159 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.360 you know, and so I kind of started diving into 160 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.759 it a little bit. Unfortunately, at that time, I didn't 161 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:13.519 really know where to look. 162 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:15.480 I wasn't into a. 163 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:20.720 Huge podcast at that time, so that's kind of that 164 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:23.240 didn't come along until twenty twenty two, when I started 165 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:25.679 conspiracy podcasting. 166 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:31.360 You know, I'm glad that you brought up the NBA player. 167 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.360 His name is Kyrie Irving, and that did get a 168 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.799 lot of attention. And then that's when they hijacked the 169 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:42.200 narrative and pardon me, Shaquille O'Neill jumped in and they 170 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.399 started making a big joke out of it. But I'm 171 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:50.200 going to post this article in the show notes because 172 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:56.600 on the NBA's actual website, Kyrie Irving on flat Earth 173 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:02.039 comments I'm sorry, so oh again, and it starts out 174 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:07.200 saying Kyrie sorry. Kyrie Irving offered a simple message to 175 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.240 science teachers Monday, I'm sorry, and with that he made 176 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.639 clear that he regrets publicly saying that the Earth is flat. 177 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:21.200 And this wasn't just done at any event. This was 178 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:25.480 at the Forbes Under thirty summit in Boston. And again 179 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.320 they were very quick. And you know, we also talk 180 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:32.279 about that how many podcasts like you can find this 181 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.759 podcast of mind Flat Earth files fairly easy, but you 182 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.360 can't find the fact hunner as easy. However, if it 183 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.840 does start to get out there, they are quick to 184 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:45.399 rein it in because they understand the repercussions if the 185 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.600 truth got out about this? What's your thoughts on that? 186 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:50.559 Yeah, So. 187 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.039 When your podcast popped up, which is there's a whole 188 00:11:55.080 --> 00:12:00.960 backstory to that, it was literally the first flat Earth 189 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.360 podcast I came across, and you only had one episode, 190 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.879 and I was like, hmm, well, maybe a there'll be 191 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:08.360 more to come. 192 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:09.799 I'll just kind of keep an eye on that. 193 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:14.480 Well, then I found Crow Triple seven and I just 194 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.559 wasn't feeling it, and at that time that's the only 195 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.120 two I found. So but as you're started picking up 196 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.919 and dropping episodes, I just kept following along and I 197 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.320 listened to everyone since, including this morning's download with David. 198 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:29.120 I believe. 199 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.440 My wife and I listened to that as we were 200 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.120 traveling this weekend. I really enjoyed that conversation. He really 201 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:42.240 did a good job. What was the backstory to finding 202 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:43.840 the Flat Earth Files podcast? 203 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:45.519 So, my. 204 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.519 Father, who I'd mentioned as my conspiratorial best friend, best 205 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.360 friend in life, got sick and of October twenty nine, 206 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:02.240 right twenty nineteen, okay, and super to the point to 207 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.799 where he was in a coma goods and well, he 208 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:10.039 came out of it, but he couldn't speak. He couldn't communicate. 209 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.120 He was just pretty much a vegetable. It was just 210 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.639 the oddest thing. They couldn't explain it. And then time 211 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.480 kept moving on and Christmas came around and he's on 212 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.960 dialysis because his body just quit working and he's pretty 213 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:27.919 much coma toased. 214 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.519 So during his dialysis. 215 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:34.679 He died on Christmas Day of that year, twenty nineteen, 216 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:44.519 And despite being dn R do not resuscitate, they started 217 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.039 working on him and they got him to the hospital 218 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:48.840 and they brought him back. 219 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:53.440 Wow, and he was himself again. 220 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.799 He could talk immediately when he woke up, and he 221 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:02.200 didn't remember the past three months, you know. And it 222 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.440 all started with a serious cold that he had at 223 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.360 that time, which was of all things odd because you 224 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:14.360 know that led up to you know, COVID in twenty twenty. 225 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:17.919 Yeah, so amazing. 226 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:23.240 He anyway, he got out of the nursing home from 227 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:30.480 rehabilitation the day the lockdowns began, so we lucked out there. 228 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:37.840 Well luckily I had him for another two years. I 229 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.679 had time with for another two years, and then I 230 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:47.559 was deer hunting the week before you started your podcast, 231 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.240 and I got the call out and the deer blind. 232 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.759 That he was gone. Wow. So it was kind of 233 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:57.159 a his tough time, you know, and. 234 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.679 Being my little conspiratory buddy, I prayed, you know, it's like, Dad, hey, 235 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:04.679 give me some of these answers. You know what you're 236 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.759 up there, you know all now you're with the God, 237 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.120 you know, tell me something, show me something. 238 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.320 And that's when your podcast popped up the next day 239 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:13.679 in my. 240 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:17.600 In my Apple store of or not Apple store, my 241 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.840 little podcast thing I was using at time to search 242 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:21.559 for podcasts. 243 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:25.039 It was like, you may be interested in this incredible like, 244 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:26.399 I thank you only had one. 245 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:33.840 I'm like interesting, So I credited to him. I really do, wow, 246 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.360 you know, because I don't know what else to say. 247 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.720 I you know, I said I wanted some answers, and. 248 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:41.200 I got one. 249 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:46.679 That's amazing. That's uh, that is something. And your dad 250 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.519 sounds sounds like an amazing man. And I'm sure he's 251 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:56.720 extremely proud of you and your continued search for the truth. Yeah. 252 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.559 I did some research on the on the fall of 253 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.480 twenty nineteen, and I think a lot of people forget, 254 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.440 you know, everybody talks about Wuhan and some people talk 255 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:09.279 about Durham and raleyg where it came from. But I 256 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.000 think people forget that Fort Dietrich was shut down at 257 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.440 the very end of July early August of twenty nineteen. 258 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.200 And there's a little town around Fort Dietrich. It's Frederick, Maryland. 259 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:21.919 And you can find hundreds of videos and articles online 260 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:27.240 talking about how many people got sick during the summer 261 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.200 and into the fall in that area, and then it 262 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:30.519 kind of spread out from there. 263 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:35.799 Yeah, there was another podcaster that had gotten thick and 264 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.000 was in a severe that I was listening to the 265 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.080 Expanded Perspectives. Okay, one of the hosts there had gotten 266 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:47.720 thick about that same time. Yeah, unexplained, you know, after 267 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.480 a hunting trip. 268 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.399 Yeah, my guess had always been for Dietrich, because you know, 269 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:57.120 anything that happens in this world, HiT's from us. No 270 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:58.799 matter where it is, it seems to be where they 271 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.440 went in the control. That true for sure. So you 272 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.400 find the podcast, you start listening. I guess now as 273 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:08.759 good as time as any to get into the silver bullets. 274 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.599 What were the pieces of evidence that led you to 275 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.960 overwhelmingly believe that, you know, we're not living on a 276 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.039 spinning ball. 277 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.119 Well, the first one is the Bible. 278 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:26.400 Like I've always been a Christian, I'd read the Bible 279 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:28.920 when I was younger. I grew up in a pretty 280 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:32.319 strict church. My grandparents actually raised me in a pretty 281 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.519 strict church. You know, they didn't even have TVs in 282 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:38.400 their house and just above them in the night probably, 283 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.880 And so i'd read my Bible as a young child. 284 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.680 But then when I was reading about hearing about. 285 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.920 Bible versus, no way, I've read the Bible, So I 286 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.759 dug out my King Kings version, and I mean play 287 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:54.920 a day firmament. 288 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:00.279 You know, wow, kind of hit me, you know right 289 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:00.920 there all along? 290 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:06.160 How did they explain this away? Oh, expanses, Come on, 291 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.359 give me a break. That's not what the word translates 292 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:14.839 to you. You know, rakiya does not mean expanse or heavens. 293 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.480 So I had a strong as accordance. I started referencing 294 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:24.880 certain verses and certain words, like the word ball. You know, 295 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.519 there's a word for ball, there's a word for circle, 296 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:33.599 and they're used in different verses, you know, to represent 297 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:35.920 a ball and one to represent that the circle of 298 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:40.599 the earth. Just there's no way around it unless you 299 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.759 twist the Bible. And not going to do that. 300 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:53.359 Yeah, And that's something I learned again on Sunday. So 301 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:58.039 I always take my King James version to me to 302 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:00.359 the local church I currently go to because I know 303 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.880 the pastor. I've known him for forty years. He's retiring 304 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:05.720 in May, so we'll see what goes from there. But 305 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:08.519 I'm I've got my King James right. It says in 306 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.400 the you know, we're going to read from John twenty four, 307 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.799 verses nine through thirteen, whatever it was, and as the 308 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.759 person is reading the scripture, it is completely like in 309 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.880 some cases not even close. The NIV says something about 310 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:28.160 a week, and the actual King James says eight days. Well, 311 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.039 what's the big deal? One week in eight days? It's 312 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.160 basically the same thing. That is just one minute example 313 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:39.359 of all the examples out there of the differences between 314 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.599 the two, and anytime he translates something it loses meaning. 315 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.440 And then I've mentioned it five hundred times. There are 316 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:52.839 plenty of in the New Testament verses that have been 317 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.359 completely removed from Matthew, Mark, Luke, John Acts and Romans, 318 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.640 completely removed from the NIV, the ESV, you know, all 319 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.160 of those Bibles. So while you know, you know we 320 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.960 were told when we were younger, well, just you know, 321 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.319 read this one it's easier to read well when you're 322 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.119 following along with someone who's reading an NIVY, you're like, 323 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.880 that's not what it says. 324 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.279 Yep. Yeah. 325 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.079 I have a men's group that I tend on Saturday mornings, 326 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.359 and I typically follow along in my King James version, 327 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.559 just to pick up on some of the differences. Yeah, 328 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:29.559 me too, you know, as they read from the SV 329 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:36.680 typically Yep, it's just and and the group knows my 330 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.319 feelings on the shape of the earth, although none of 331 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.799 them really concur with me, but I'm working on them. 332 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.319 Yeah, I bet you there's one or two that are 333 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:48.599 pretty convinced. They just don't want to step out there 334 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.200 and put themselves out there and be called Yeah, hey guys, 335 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:51.839 a flat earther. 336 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.440 Right, I don't mind taking it. 337 00:20:57.440 --> 00:20:58.039 It's all right. 338 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.200 I don't mind either. I actually reached out this morning 339 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:07.240 to some billboard people to get some pricing. Interesting, Yeah, 340 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.920 just to see. The only thing is the one I 341 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.119 want to do, the one that's affordable and is digital, 342 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.640 is right across from another church. And I'm afraid I 343 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.240 don't want to put them in the position to where 344 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.079 everybody thinks that they put it up there. 345 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:21.319 Right, there's. 346 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.079 A gentleman out of Arkansas that I met up with 347 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.319 here recently, and he's looking at dude in billboards as well. 348 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:32.920 Bona fide truth. I think that's what his name is. 349 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:33.559 I've heard of that. 350 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.599 I met him through Nathan Thompson. You know that. 351 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.599 Name rings a bell, but I can't. I can't. He's 352 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:42.319 pretty out there. 353 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:46.160 I think he's the one that mctoone was like calling 354 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:52.480 out on the video down and there. 355 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. 356 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.240 Yeah. So Nathan travels around the country and doing me up. 357 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:01.559 That's awesome. 358 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.400 People getting people together. 359 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.839 That's awesome and that's what we need, no matter what 360 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.680 your passion is, if it's nine to eleven, if it's 361 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.839 flat earth, or if it's just bringing people together to 362 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:16.519 share the gospel of Jesus Christ. You know, online it's fantastic, 363 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.480 but there is a whole different feeling, a sense of 364 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.720 accomplishment when you can meet in person like that. When 365 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.680 I did my live shows last April in Oklahoma City 366 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.960 and Waco, just amazing to meet with like minded people 367 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:35.920 and it's everybody gets so, you know, passionate, and because 368 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:39.000 for most of us, we can't have that conversation with 369 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:42.599 people around our house where our friends or our neighbors, 370 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:44.440 they'll never talk to you again. 371 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:46.400 Right, So. 372 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.440 Every intention on going to the Oklahoma one meet up 373 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:54.559 with you, and life happens. 374 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:59.000 It happens, brother, Fortunately it happens. I wanted to do 375 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.759 it this year until I realize, well, that's it's Easter weekend. 376 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:05.480 That's not going to work out. So yeah, that's okay. Well, 377 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.160 you know, at this point, I think the next conference, 378 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.200 I'd like to do something this fall. You know, it 379 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.000 can be a general truth conference, but I'd like to 380 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:16.240 focus to be flat Earth. Because the older I get, 381 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.279 the more I've been doing this, the more I realize 382 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:19.720 exactly how important this is. 383 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:25.200 I seen Rob Skiva's son is holding some kind of 384 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:28.039 truth conference in Dallas. 385 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.519 And end of October. 386 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:34.680 Really yeah, he's got some kind of booth getting set 387 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.720 up and he's going over the fine details. 388 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:40.319 Now I think something. 389 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.880 I will be completely anxious with. Honest with you, I 390 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.200 had no idea. That is his name, Jeremiah Sciba. 391 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:50.599 I believe that's it there. 392 00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.079 It is host of Sciba News Nation, the son of 393 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:57.480 Rob Sciba. I have never Now that I see his face, 394 00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.559 I know who he is. That's right, I know who 395 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.240 he is. I'm going to reach out to him. Thanks 396 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:01.440 for that. 397 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.720 Yeah, absolutely, that's. 398 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.359 Good to know. What else is? Oh, I got a 399 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.119 couple of your silver bullets. Let me ask you this. 400 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:14.559 Have you ever taken the time to test something out yourself, 401 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.519