Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, so we will get into a true crime
Speaker 2: Tuesday kind of a different twist on it. A little
Speaker 2: bit later in the show today that AI, once again,
Speaker 2: AI has proven that fingerprints may not be as unique
Speaker 2: as we thought they were, which at this point hasn't
Speaker 2: caused any problems, but down the line could cause some
Speaker 2: massive problems when it comes to very simple criminal investigation.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got Elon Musk calling one of Trump's key
Speaker 1: trade advisors a moron after his comments on the moron's
Speaker 1: comments on national television over the weekends where we kick
Speaker 1: off swamp Watch.
Speaker 3: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
Speaker 3: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 4: are done.
Speaker 3: The other side never quits. I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: So now you.
Speaker 5: Train the squad, I can imagine what can be and
Speaker 5: be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 3: You know, Americans have always been going at They're not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3: Whether people voted for you were nas watch, they're all
Speaker 3: counter knowing.
Speaker 1: So Trump thinks the United States is getting screwed over
Speaker 1: by the world. So put the tariffs in place with
Speaker 1: the design that other countries would come to the bargaining table.
Speaker 1: We could rework the trade contracts to where the US
Speaker 1: fare is better with these deals. It's what Trump has
Speaker 1: done his whole life. He's been talking about tariffs for decades.
Speaker 1: So it's not that Peter Navarro, his trade advisor, came
Speaker 1: to him and said, this is my idea, run with it, and.
Speaker 3: That's what happened.
Speaker 1: But he certainly is one of the people in the
Speaker 1: president's ear. Peter Navarro is, and this is a guy
Speaker 1: who wrote the book Death by China a handful of
Speaker 1: years ago. Kushner got wind of it, said hey, why
Speaker 1: don't you come work for my father in law when
Speaker 1: he was running in twenty sixteen, and that's where that
Speaker 1: relationship was formed. Elon Musk his new guy, Trump's new guy,
Speaker 1: does not get along with Peter Navarro. The two are
Speaker 1: at each other's heads and it's become public.
Speaker 2: Peter Navarro on CNBC basically blasted Elon Musk for not
Speaker 2: being a car manufacturer, said, basically, he's a car assembler.
Speaker 3: But he's not a car manufacturer. He's a car assembler.
Speaker 2: He went on to talk about how if you visit
Speaker 2: the plant, the Tesla plant in Austin, that there are
Speaker 2: parts that are being brought in from other places that
Speaker 2: are then put together in Austin and sold as an
Speaker 2: American vehicle. Elon Musk has said very clearly, and it's
Speaker 2: been pointed out not just by Elon Musk but others,
Speaker 2: but as of right now, Tesla is one of the
Speaker 2: most as weird as this sounds, the most American car
Speaker 2: there is based on the percentage of actual parts and
Speaker 2: pieces that are built I'm sorry, that are made in
Speaker 2: the United States. It is.
Speaker 3: It is true.
Speaker 1: He is more of an assembler than a manufacturer in
Speaker 1: that regard. Many companies in America have done suit, have
Speaker 1: followed suit, they have done it before. Elon Musket it
Speaker 1: in terms of outsourcing manufacturing to other countries because well
Speaker 1: it's cheaper right.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Will they have to absorb those costs?
Speaker 1: Yes, because when you sell things under the American made label,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a little bit more, you can be
Speaker 1: okay with it. But a lot of those labels, sorry,
Speaker 1: but don't shoot the messenger. A lot of those labels
Speaker 1: do the same thing elon Musk does. They do look
Speaker 1: to other countries to manufacture whatever it is, and then
Speaker 1: it's assembled or put together in America. Now, China is
Speaker 1: one of those places, right, big place where things are manufactured,
Speaker 1: and China seems to be the country right now, at
Speaker 1: least the biggest, the most important country that is not moving,
Speaker 1: is not coming to any sort of bargaining table. In fact,
Speaker 1: China says it will fight to the end. Trump this
Speaker 1: week saying that he is looking at fifty percent additional tariffs,
Speaker 1: an additional fifty percent duty on US imports if Beijing
Speaker 1: does not withdraw the four or thirty four percent tariff
Speaker 1: it imposed on American products last week in retaliation. Now,
Speaker 1: Shi Jinping is the head of China, and all the
Speaker 1: powers that be that are that are familiar and make
Speaker 1: their life's work into studying US China relations say.
Speaker 3: That this guy has no option to be weak. Xi Jinping.
Speaker 1: There's no option for him to come to the bargaining table,
Speaker 1: which would be a sign of weakness.
Speaker 3: In China.
Speaker 1: He has fancied himself as a savior of China, who
Speaker 1: is doing what Trump's trying to do here, rejuvenating China's greatness.
Speaker 1: These are two men of the same the either one's
Speaker 1: going to back down.
Speaker 3: At least Shixinping certainly is not going to back down now.
Speaker 2: They've also said, have Chinese officials, whether Chi Jinping or
Speaker 2: anybody else in his immediate cabinet, they knew that this
Speaker 2: was coming. They knew especially when he was reelected. They
Speaker 2: knew that this was coming because of the policies that
Speaker 2: the Trump imposed during his first term, trying to go
Speaker 2: after and trying to even up the trade discrepancies between
Speaker 2: the United States and China.
Speaker 1: Now, TikTok may be fun for videos for the children
Speaker 1: and US alike, but it's also a major.
Speaker 3: Chess piece in all of this.
Speaker 1: China last week scuttled that deal to sell a portion
Speaker 1: of it to American investors.
Speaker 2: This was not about TikTok. This was about the tariffs.
Speaker 1: This is why China is resisting a sale of the
Speaker 1: ports owned by Hong Kong Company c K. Hutchinson along
Speaker 1: the Panama Canal. This is why Beijing today is threatening
Speaker 1: more countermeasures. If Trump goes forward with the additional fifty
Speaker 1: percent in tariffs, it's going to get very ugly between
Speaker 1: these two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this ratchets up many times between now and whatever.
Speaker 3: Is that the end of it?
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever the first step is away from this
Speaker 2: is way down the road. I mean, because three is
Speaker 2: it three times three times fool? You got three times
Speaker 2: as much stuff coming in from China as opposed to
Speaker 2: us sending it out to China. It's somewhere around four
Speaker 2: hundred and forty billion coming in from China versus the
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty that we send out to China.
Speaker 2: So there's this huge, huge imbalance that he's trying to
Speaker 2: trying to rectifice, trying to even up the scales here
Speaker 2: and this. You know, if you calculate it all out
Speaker 2: and impose all of the tariffs that Trump has threatened,
Speaker 2: that's one hundred and four percent tariff on stuff that
Speaker 2: comes in from China, and it's everything.
Speaker 3: Follow the money.
Speaker 1: As stock markets around the world tumbled this week, Beijing
Speaker 1: mobilized state owned banks and investment companies known informally in
Speaker 1: China as the National Team, the goal to shore up
Speaker 1: their holdings of Chinese share is trying to stem the decline.
Speaker 1: Chinese stocks rose slightly today after big declines a day
Speaker 1: earlier because of that money moved around.
Speaker 3: It does not get easier or anything. No, it does not.
Speaker 1: The Treasury Secretary, by the way, says China's escalation was
Speaker 1: a big mistake, that China's playing with the losing hand.
Speaker 1: Of course, this is all bravado, depending on whoever you ask,
Speaker 1: China or the United States, China's counterpart over there.
Speaker 2: Well, and Trump has said repeatedly he's still open to
Speaker 2: a negotiation. He's still open to contact face to face.
Speaker 2: Even he would offer, Uh, no, one's getting the doors
Speaker 2: of the White House.
Speaker 1: That's not happening until everything is worked out. And several
Speaker 1: bows are on the top of that package.
Speaker 2: Up next those nannies in Florida that make six figures.
Speaker 3: That's a good job.
Speaker 1: We were talking I think you were you were gone,
Speaker 1: but we were talking about downtown Abbey and upstairs downstairs.
Speaker 1: We just that Deborah's definitely an upstairs person. Is something
Speaker 1: wrong about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I like that? Is that a blazer? Is that yellow?
Speaker 2: It's beautiful? It is I love it. She called you
Speaker 2: an upstairs person. And then complimented you. And you know what,
Speaker 2: I fall?
Speaker 5: I can how do I say you fall? I fall
Speaker 5: in between different categories, right. I like to look nice
Speaker 5: because that's just who I am, and I love clothes
Speaker 5: and shoes and purses and all that. But most of
Speaker 5: my friends are not like that. So I guess when.
Speaker 1: I think you get along with everybody, But if somebody's
Speaker 1: looking at you, I'm just profiling from Yes you are,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: So you could live downstairs with us, I would.
Speaker 5: Probably get along better with you guys downstairs than I
Speaker 5: would with the people upstairs. But I like to be fun,
Speaker 5: so I understand why.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why the show is so much appeal,
Speaker 1: because we both see ourselves as downstairs and upstairs.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yes, don't put us in a box.
Speaker 5: Yes, don't, don't don't don't don't. And by the way,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say this real quick, I have I
Speaker 5: think one more episode left of Dying for Sex.
Speaker 1: So Dying for Sex this show has gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of attention since we first started talking about it last week.
Speaker 3: I mean it is.
Speaker 1: It's getting the kind of attention that adolescent Scott in
Speaker 1: terms of conversation topics that you and I touched don yesterday,
Speaker 1: I read an article, a long article about it today, Debra,
Speaker 1: about how the show gets you to start talking about things, Yes,
Speaker 1: that are kind of undercurrents of the show, like adolescents did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which I mean that because my husband last night
Speaker 5: he walked in when I was watching this show.
Speaker 3: How could you walk?
Speaker 5: He said?
Speaker 2: What this is so stupid?
Speaker 4: Why would you watch?
Speaker 1: Well, the sex is like how they get you in, Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's really about life, about who you choose to
Speaker 1: spend time with, and that's how you choose to live.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I said that to you. I said, look, trust me.
Speaker 2: I look, it's not just all dirty still, Like when
Speaker 2: you die, Gary, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna be happy with that shirt you put on this morning?
Speaker 1: What or would you have rather spent the day in
Speaker 1: a baseball jersey or an elephant costume?
Speaker 3: Maybe an elephant costume? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I want you to live your life and not make
Speaker 1: safe choices. Okay, No, I don't keep being safe over there.
Speaker 1: We need it, Devyor and I need it.
Speaker 3: Yes, we do. We'll talk about it weeks. What's going on?
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We had talked earlier
Speaker 2: about this nightclub collapse in the Dominican. At least now
Speaker 2: twenty eight people have died more than one hundred injured
Speaker 2: after this roof fell at the nightclub called the Jet
Speaker 2: Set in Santo Domingo. Cruis are still looking for potential survivors.
Speaker 2: I had mentioned that they had found Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: picture Octavio Dotel. He played in the majors for fifteen years,
Speaker 2: passed away after the injuries. They said they found him alive,
Speaker 2: but he died from his injuries. He'd be fifty two
Speaker 2: because he was born in seventy three, like somebody else
Speaker 2: I know. But again, it looks like several different reports
Speaker 2: say that Octavio d'otel has passed away.
Speaker 3: Just awful. People still trapped in the rubble.
Speaker 1: They say, all you hear from the site is just
Speaker 1: people drilling, triveling to get into survivors.
Speaker 3: And again it's obviously a race against the clock.
Speaker 1: If you're buried under rubble and how long that's a
Speaker 1: tenable situation.
Speaker 2: But just awful. I wanted to throw this in there
Speaker 2: only because we didn't get to it. We're talking a
Speaker 2: lot about the.
Speaker 3: Tariffs, etc.
Speaker 2: But Washington, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser has had the field
Speaker 2: questions about a military parade that President Trump wants to throw.
Speaker 3: He's talked about this for a very long time. Run
Speaker 3: that back to me. Who needs to go through this?
Speaker 2: The DC mayor got it? Not a fan of Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: No friends, bless you vocal courts.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: The parade would go from Arlington, where the Pentagon and
Speaker 2: the Arlington National Cemetery are like vocal courts, trossy use those.
Speaker 3: Across sympotomac into DC. My wife tells me the same thing.
Speaker 3: Does she really you.
Speaker 2: Used your vocal courts on that one? So far, the
Speaker 2: White House has said that's not the case. The AP
Speaker 2: said in a statement that no military parade has been scheduled.
Speaker 2: Flag Day is coming up. Do you know what day
Speaker 2: Flag Day falls on?
Speaker 3: It is June fourteen.
Speaker 2: You know what else is June fourteen? Trump's birthday. Trump's birthday.
Speaker 2: You know what else is was born on June fourteenth.
Speaker 2: The United States Army.
Speaker 3: So that's a big huh.
Speaker 2: There are people who are a cocktail this plan and
Speaker 2: suggesting that they do it all on Flag Day to
Speaker 2: celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the US Army.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know my one of my favorite
Speaker 1: quotes comes from June and I don't know who said this,
Speaker 1: but it is this. If a June Night could speak,
Speaker 1: it would boast that it invented romance.
Speaker 3: It's not an awesome quote, that's really nice. You don't
Speaker 3: want to know who said I do.
Speaker 1: I remembered it now, I just don't remember who said it.
Speaker 3: Bernard Williams, Ah Williams, Bernie Williams.
Speaker 2: Centerfielder, second district or center fielder for the Yankes.
Speaker 3: Go on.
Speaker 2: If a June Night could talk, it would probably boast
Speaker 2: it invented romance.
Speaker 3: Yes, not beautiful. Ever heard that before? Up next the
Speaker 3: six figure names. Wait, let's discuss what's going to go
Speaker 3: on on that day.
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a big militar military parade
Speaker 1: that entail these Kim jongon stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah? The White House says they're not really looking to
Speaker 3: do anything. Are there going to be boats in the river.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they would put boats in the river.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah they should, military boats, But they're going across
Speaker 2: the river on the to go from Arlington into DC.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they would maybe who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm playing this thing, I'm putting watercraft
Speaker 2: in there. A waste of money, of course, it is
Speaker 2: a giant waste of money.
Speaker 3: Where's DOJE when you need it?
Speaker 1: One could argue there's a lot of the military toys
Speaker 1: that is a waste of money.
Speaker 3: But we love them.
Speaker 2: But we don't need to show them to everyone air show.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 2: We love it. It's very American for us to play
Speaker 2: with our toys in public, but it's not very American
Speaker 2: for us to parade tanks and missiles and things down
Speaker 2: the den usually our jam now right, Rich Nannies up next.
Speaker 3: I'm Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on the Man from
Speaker 4: KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2: Probably, I don't know. Seven years ago.
Speaker 3: Do we play it every day? We do not play
Speaker 3: to not play it every day? It wasn't you, Elmer.
Speaker 1: It's just that it's been in rotation for a long
Speaker 1: time and he has a little bit of a temper
Speaker 1: tantrum every time.
Speaker 3: Is that what you called that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. Wow. Well,
Speaker 3: if we will make eye contact with me right now,
Speaker 3: what's going on. I'll stop playing it, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you. Just put a thumbs down on that thing.
Speaker 3: It won't come up, and we're gonna have to start
Speaker 3: a do not playlist. Seriously, he's very particular. We don't
Speaker 3: have to do that. We just have to play more
Speaker 3: of other stuff.
Speaker 1: List after nine to eleven. I was working at a
Speaker 1: country station.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what a whiplash? Ouch, Holy mackerel, give a guy a.
Speaker 1: Whow hey listen. Disclaimer nine to eleven happens. I was
Speaker 1: working at a country station at the time, and we
Speaker 1: got to do not playlist. And do you know how
Speaker 1: many songs country songs involve things that you cannot play
Speaker 1: after something like nine to eleven happens? In terms of
Speaker 1: burning being one of the major issues, you know't me
Speaker 1: country songs reference burning a lot anything, heart, burning, heart's
Speaker 1: desire anything. It was extensive. Oh, they were, They were
Speaker 1: very particular, very much so. Yeah, okay, So, speaking of
Speaker 1: tantrums like the one you just threw, there is a
Speaker 1: woman named Jovanna k Pric Capric Capricvanna.
Speaker 3: Caprick, and she is a nanny.
Speaker 1: She says she's an expert in temper tantrums, and she
Speaker 1: wasn't really setting out to be a nanny, but she
Speaker 1: kind of fell into this line of work when she
Speaker 1: came across an agent's z looking called the Nanny League.
Speaker 1: The Nanny League has offices around the country specializes in
Speaker 1: placing prospective educated employees with wealthy families, because when you
Speaker 1: nanny for a wealthy family, you got to come with
Speaker 1: a degree, apparently, and she has an associate's degree. She
Speaker 1: also pursued certifications and subjects like conscious discipline, Conscious discipline.
Speaker 1: She realized that the money was in South Florida, that
Speaker 1: after COVID all the money kind of had made its
Speaker 1: way to Florida Florida. Of course, they had low tax rates,
Speaker 1: lack of pandemic restrictions, conservative politics, nice weather, and at
Speaker 1: least one hundred asset management firms opened offices in that
Speaker 1: Palm Beach County since the pandemic, Goldman Sachs, black Rock,
Speaker 1: hedge funds, things like that.
Speaker 2: So she says, Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Boca, Miami. This
Speaker 2: is where the big money is, says Jovanna. And you
Speaker 2: think about the the way that this is written, it's
Speaker 2: actually describing how the American economy right now is increasingly
Speaker 2: oriented towards the havels and less to the have nots.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the way it's been. That's part of capitalism.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four study showed that a number of Americans
Speaker 2: with a net worth of thirty million dollars or more
Speaker 2: went up by thirteen percent. That's about one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty eight thousand people in that group. And Moody's Analytics
Speaker 2: found that about half of all consumer spending in the
Speaker 2: United States half comes from the wealthiest ten percent of households.
Speaker 1: So Javanna's working as a nanny. She's making one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five thousand dollars a year. She also gets
Speaker 1: the housing stipend that covers half her rent, and a
Speaker 1: year end bonus. All of the the complete compensation packages
Speaker 1: adds up to about at least one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, out earning her husband, who has
Speaker 1: a master's degree in engineering.
Speaker 2: She works as what's called a rotational nanny.
Speaker 1: She does shifts of two weeks on and two weeks off,
Speaker 1: swapping with another nanny.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: She says though, that her workload averaged out to about
Speaker 1: forty hours a week even with the time off. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: this has become the Norman Health, wealthy households Rota Nanni's
Speaker 1: or what they're called. And I don't understand that the
Speaker 1: need for two weeks on and two weeks off that
Speaker 1: seems I guess for the nanny to live her life.
Speaker 2: I think that they're talking about twenty four hours a
Speaker 2: day because they were talking ear.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but two weeks on. Oh so two weeks on,
Speaker 1: she's doing twenty four hours a day. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: need the two weeks off to manage your life, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see like a firefighter. So this household is fully staffed.
Speaker 1: They've got a chef, personal assistant, housekeepers, and this is
Speaker 1: just what happens. Like you said, there's a time of
Speaker 1: unprecedented wealth in this country and disparities that go along
Speaker 1: with it. They say that discretion is the number one
Speaker 1: prerequisite nanny, a housekeeper, a house manager, personal chef, privy
Speaker 1: to the intimate lives of their bosses or principles as
Speaker 1: they're called. We all learn this watching Downton Abbey. Peter
Speaker 1: Mahler is a president and founder of Mailer Private Staffing,
Speaker 1: a firm that's headquartered by the Bye in Milwaukee, Odd
Speaker 1: okay Yeah, started serving old money families of the Upper
Speaker 1: Midwest and now places highly trained housekeepers, nanni's, butler's, drivers, gardeners,
Speaker 1: estate managers, and assistants nationwide.
Speaker 2: They will even they will even train a new employee
Speaker 2: on the things as specific as how a client prefers
Speaker 2: their clothes to be folded or how to for them
Speaker 2: before a trip. And then they'll put together a household manual,
Speaker 2: which is often called a drop dead book, detailed information
Speaker 2: about all the family's pet allergies, sorry, all the family's allergies,
Speaker 2: any pet routines, and how a client prefers their refrigerator organized.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna be that specific, I've never I've never
Speaker 2: been comfortable with being served. I've never I don't. It
Speaker 2: just it bothers me because it makes I don't want
Speaker 2: anybody to ever feel like they're less than and because
Speaker 2: of lack of self confidence or whatever. But I never
Speaker 2: want somebody to feel that way around me. So I've
Speaker 2: never understood the idea that you would then tell somebody,
Speaker 2: I prefer my refrigerator to be put together this way.
Speaker 2: For there he's talking right now, He'll have it and
Speaker 2: I think we're going to break it about two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he'll bring it in for.
Speaker 3: Him in a couple of minutes. No, he wants it hot.
Speaker 2: That's not.
Speaker 3: Think about this.
Speaker 2: If you're a director of estates for a family, you
Speaker 2: can manage eight or ten of their houses. You could
Speaker 2: probably earn three or four or five one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year because you are the one. Maybe this
Speaker 2: is a downt and abbey thing. There's a head what
Speaker 2: chef Butler had made, whatever you call it. That person
Speaker 2: then directs everybody else, the contractors, the housekeepers, the nannies.
Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend who referred to a lands keeper.
Speaker 1: Oh no, a landscaper, a landscaper whatever. See, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what say. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 3: It's so foreign to me. And me and.
Speaker 2: Another fight were like, you have a gardener, Hey, you do?
Speaker 2: I have a landscaper.
Speaker 1: Let's just dial it back down ton Abbey.
Speaker 2: You don't have a freaking landscaper. You have a big yard.
Speaker 2: But then a landscape architect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, let's just let's just pump the brakes on that. Well,
Speaker 2: if you thought AI for our nuclear program is not
Speaker 2: a great idea. Let's start muddling around with the genetics
Speaker 2: of extinct animals.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love pretty I think we should
Speaker 1: bring back the dinosaurs and just wipe everyone out.
Speaker 2: There's a company has it has reinvigorated the old extinct
Speaker 2: diary wolf.
Speaker 1: I love a dire wolf, don't you it's a pretty dog.
Speaker 1: You're about to say cute, Well, rip your face off.
Speaker 3: It ain't a dire wolf.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Stock market's been through a second straight day of some
Speaker 2: pretty big swings. After jumping four point one percent toward
Speaker 2: its best day in the year, the S and P
Speaker 2: five hundred quickly gave up almost all of that. As
Speaker 2: of right now, the Dow Jones industrial averages up one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six points, but the S and P
Speaker 2: five hundred is down just below Zer, just down five points.
Speaker 2: NASDAC is also off about seventy three right now.
Speaker 1: A biotech company says it's bred three animals with the
Speaker 1: key physical features of the dire wolf. This is a
Speaker 1: species that has been extinct for more than twelve thousand years.
Speaker 2: Because that's what species do.
Speaker 1: Of the five billion that have existed on Earth, ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent have vanished. So yes, it is
Speaker 1: very sad when something goes extinct, but that's just the
Speaker 1: way things happen. Of course, the dire Wolves have been
Speaker 1: recently featured on Game of Thrones, which makes everyone just
Speaker 1: fall wildly in love with them. Colossal Biosciences is a
Speaker 1: biotech company. We've talked about them before because this is
Speaker 1: what they set out to do. They set out to
Speaker 1: use gene editing technology to bring back the lost species,
Speaker 1: in this case, the gray wolf and its DNA has
Speaker 1: led to in the tinker of said DNA has led
Speaker 1: to the birth of these of these pops. They took
Speaker 1: DNA from a thirteen thousand year old tooth and a
Speaker 1: seventy two thousand year old skull and made healthy dire
Speaker 1: wolf puppies according to the CEO.
Speaker 3: But if you ask Gary Hoffman.
Speaker 2: These are dire little puppies, well they're not because they're
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent dire wolf, which they share like
Speaker 2: ninety nine point five percent of the DNA with the dire.
Speaker 3: Wolf was not hot enough.
Speaker 2: The company that was created, Colossal Biosciences, wanted to work
Speaker 2: on the de extinction of animals. Ben Lamb, I guess
Speaker 2: the founder. He said, we're currently the apex predator. Why
Speaker 2: not use our technology for good? And he's talking about
Speaker 2: using the Crisper genetic modification to go in and recreate
Speaker 2: basically some of these extinct animals they've been working on,
Speaker 2: and they claim that they will be able to produce
Speaker 2: a wooly mammoth by the I think it's by twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight that they're working on. They also gave us
Speaker 2: those wooly mice. Do you remember that story from a
Speaker 2: year ago, a couple of years ago. Oddly I don't,
Speaker 2: because that's what they were working on was they're working
Speaker 2: on the wooly mammoth. So they're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: can they take a gene and make something that's not
Speaker 2: normally wooly like an elephant, and make it wooly like
Speaker 2: a mammoth.
Speaker 3: Can they do the same thing with mice.
Speaker 2: Doctor Robert Kitzman is a guy from I.
Speaker 3: Think it's University of Houston.
Speaker 2: He's a bioethicist, and he said, this is not a
Speaker 2: great idea because we don't know what the end result is.
Speaker 6: The bottom linere is a lot of the genome we
Speaker 6: still do not understand, and so one wants to be careful.
Speaker 6: If you're mucking around gene mucking that, they're may be
Speaker 6: things we'd understand. You may produce a wolf that's twice
Speaker 6: as ferocious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that.
Speaker 2: I mean gonna you wanted to mess with the dinosaurs,
Speaker 2: You're gonna bring out a t rex that's twice as
Speaker 2: large as an actual t rex.
Speaker 3: I am right, I am, and twice as aggressive. Bring
Speaker 3: them out, Bring them out, Bring them out, Bring them out.
Speaker 6: Those systems are very delicately balanced, and nature is far
Speaker 6: more complicated than our ability as humans to understand it
Speaker 6: or to understand all the possible unforeseen coms.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for science explaining that to us idiots.
Speaker 2: By the way, Jennifer Duda is one of the original
Speaker 2: inventors of Crisper, the genetic editing technology, and says this
Speaker 2: should not be This is exactly what we should not
Speaker 2: be used exactly. I can't wait. I love it that
Speaker 2: its chaos, bring me more. The plan is that they
Speaker 2: wanted to bring about Crisper. They want a gene editing
Speaker 2: technology to work on essential matters helping people with severe
Speaker 2: congenital disorders.
Speaker 3: Why do that that?
Speaker 2: If we can avoid all ering nature more than we
Speaker 2: already have, shouldn't we try to do so?
Speaker 1: Why did they name two of these pups a Romulus
Speaker 1: and Remus? Don't they don't we want to avoid one
Speaker 1: of them killing the other.
Speaker 3: We just call it Cane and Abel.
Speaker 2: Exactly what are we doing here? And the other one's
Speaker 2: named Kalisi. There were two that were born, I think
Speaker 2: at the end of last year.
Speaker 3: One with Romes. The situation. I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: good idea.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of bringing back all the things
Speaker 1: we shouldn't bring back just to see what happens. Like
Speaker 1: we haven't already ruined everything? Well, when I just keep going,
Speaker 1: we've ruined a lot of it. Yeah, we have. We
Speaker 1: look around. Look at that jacket. Nothing, that's a great jacket,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: And it's it's because.
Speaker 2: You're feeling uncomfortable about yourself, about the choices you've made.
Speaker 1: Think I'm projecting. Let me see, I think we're both
Speaker 1: pretty safe in terms of our fashion choices too.
Speaker 2: I'm still surprised that anybody wears open toad shoes around
Speaker 2: this nasty dirt hole.
Speaker 1: But you've seen my feet. Yeah right, yeah, so the
Speaker 1: damage has been done.
Speaker 3: Oh I see what you're saying. Kind of like unleashed
Speaker 3: new fake dire wolves contributing to the dirtiness of this hole. Okay,
Speaker 3: the nasty away.
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