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Speaker 1: I'm here with mister Pete Kenyona's it's been a while

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since you've been on the show Man. How have you

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been doing?

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Speaker 2: Doing good? Tommy? How are you? I'm doing well, doing well.

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I'm excited to get into this.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I feel like I want

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to start the conversation off with because I find this

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to be important, is you know, I kind of like

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float between worlds here. You know, I'm friends with like

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you and Matt Erickson and Jason Mernchuck and all these

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guys that are kind of more of the dissident right,

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you know, so to speak. And then I'm still like

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kind of floating within the libertarian space in ways. You know,

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I'm still real close with a lot of them guys,

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and I kind of have my I wouldn't say I

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have a split perspective. I want to say that, like,

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I don't necessarily one hundred percent agree with any of

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any of y'all, but you know, I enjoy the conversations.

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And the thing that's so interesting about having conversations with

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those of y'all from the right is it's a perspective

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that a lot of people have never heard before. And

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we're getting we're gathering information like from like Tom lu

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Wongo and from Stormy Waters, and some of these guys

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in looking at at the world in a different way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess one of the things that happened recently

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was I was just like, of course, talking about the

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Federal Reserve. You know, we were making the point that

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ending the Federal Reserve right now would be dangerous to

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most people. And people immediately started when they responded to that.

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They were responsing and responding to what I called the

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very religious way. And what I mean by that is

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they're inside a bubble and they they're not taking into

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consideration the fact that they have an ideology. The ideology

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is within a bubble, and when they hear something, they

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automatically they revert their thinking, reverts a certain way and

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just has a pat answer for that. And it's like, well,

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you know, we can't really, we can't end the Federal

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Reserve right now, because you know, the globalists will just

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swoop right in take over. And it's like, no, we

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have to end the Federal Reserve now. We end the

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Federal Reserve, that's what we have to do. And it's

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like that's very religious thinking because you're not even asking

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for a explanation. You're not asking, well, why do you

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think it would be dangerous? Why do you think globalism

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it would just empower globalism to end the Federal Reserve.

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Right now, you're just going off, You're just reacting. And

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what's funny is is people like me are accused of

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being a reactionary, which okay, proud proudly, proudly from if

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you understand the historical definition of that. Sure. But you

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know what I saw was when Tom said that on

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my show and I put that on Twitter, people reacted

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to it in in a way that it's like, Okay, no,

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I'm in this bubble, my bubble. The people inside this

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bubble and the people who inform this bubble, the quote

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unquote thought leaders inside this bubble say this. I'm not

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going to listen to anything outside of that, and I

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will here, I'll listen to it, but I'm not going

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to hear it. I'm not going to take it into consideration,

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and I'm not going to try to understand it. One

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of the things that I try to do is I

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try to understand everybody's you know, where everyone's coming from.

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It's one of the reasons why I've studied Marxism so deeply,

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and why I've studied, why I've tried to study as

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much as I can, because I want to understand where

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everyone's coming from. I'm reading a book right now on

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my show called The Demon and Democracy, and it shows

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how liberalism and even classical liberalism matches up with community,

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with communism and Marxism in certain in one distinct way

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in that it's promising. It's we're on the path to

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as perfect as we can get. And I needed to

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understand that. And that was one of the first books.

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Actually I read that book in twenty twenty one, and

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that was a book that actually Daniel McAdams actually recommended

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that book, and it really turned my thinking around, and

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especially as I was coming back to the church. And

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you know, when I came back to the church, I

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came back to the Protestant Church. And then when we

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moved to where we live now, there was a small

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Catholic church and I grew up Catholic. I was baptized,

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baptized as a baby, brought up in the Catholic church,

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graduated Catholic school, and you know, I just went My

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family has been My dad was a Southern Baptist preacher,

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but you know he was born into His ancestors are

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all Catholic. My mother's ancestors are all Catholic. That's who

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I am basically, so I wanted to when I went

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back to the church, I was like, Okay, this makes

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sense to me. All the questions I had about Protestantism

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when I was even in a Protestant seminary and arguing

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with the with the professors, going this doesn't make any

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sense to me. Why how do you know this? What's

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your authority upon this? And really that's what informs me

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now is like, what's your authority? What's your authority to

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tell me that we need to end the Federal Reserve

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right now? Oh? Well, theft, fractionalization of money, Sure, I

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understand all of that, Okay, but I'm telling you, if

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you end the Federal Reserve right now, it's going to

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hurt the majority of the population. It's going to impoverish them,

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and it's going to people will die. And it's like, well,

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and no one wants to ask me why why that

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would happen? Why we'd have insane deflation, which would help

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a lot of people, but it would also a lot

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of people would are going to lose jobs because a

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lot of people are going to be forced to shut

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their businesses down. I mean, there are all these there

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are all these variables that are real life that are

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happening right now. What drome pal has been doing at

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the FED for the last four years by basically destroying

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the euro dollar system bringing our interest rates were an

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interest rate on a credit card that was issued in Austin, Texas.

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The rate on that was being determined by someone overseas

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wasn't even American. He destroyed all of that. He brought

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it home. So when I look at when I look

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at like just and I'm just using the Federal Reserve

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as a as a jumping off point, because that was

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one of the things you asked me when we talked,

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well we talked before we recorded the other day. I

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was like, okay, well they're all these there are all

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these things. People are like, oh, you know, we can

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go to bitcoin right now. I'm like, can we Who

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how I'm talking about? Because he has people around him

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who are like, well, we need to make it an

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M one reserve. We're gonna have an M one reserve

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of bitcoin. Okay, Well, what does that mean? That means

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that people are gonna be able to borrow money off

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of it. Who is stopping them from borrowing money off

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of it at four to five to six to seven times.

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Who to fractionalize it? Not fractionalizing bitcoin, but fractionalizing the reserve,

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the reserve element behind it, you know. So it's like

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you could say, oh, we know, we have a trillion

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dollars worth of bitcoin sitting here in an M one reserve. Okay,

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We're going to lend ten trillion off of that, right okay,

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So and they can do that, why because they're in charge.

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So you can say, oh, if we just go to bitcoin,

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everything will be great, you know, we just have bitcoin

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as a reserve as the bitcoin standard. Okay, Well, who's

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going to be the one to police how? Because bitcoin

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is not going to be an M two currency. Most

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bitcoin people say that. So if it's just who's going

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to do this? So it's I'm listening to people talk

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and they're not looking and understanding exactly how the global

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economy works right now. They don't understand that the US

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dollar is the most powerful currency in the world right now,

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above pretty much all others, even Russia's ruble has started

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to fall. But you don't quit a game when you're winning,

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especially when you're like kicking your opponent's ass. You don't

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quit a game. And if you do quit that game,

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like Chesterton's fence, if you're going to tear this down,

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why are you tearing it down? And what's on the

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other side of it? Is it going to be worse

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than it is right now? And if your only answer

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to that is well, I'm being stolen from and that's immoral,

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that's not enough for me. That's not enough for me

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because your grandmother, what are you doing to your grandparents?

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What are you doing to old people who have no

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idea what this bitcoin stuff is who in a deflationary situation,

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they might do They may actually do well because prices

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may drop, but also there may be things that aren't

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available to them anymore. So really, it's it's when I

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look at how I used to think when when Chris

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and Robert and I were writing The Monopoly on Violence,

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the documentary, we were so inside a box and not

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considering what what else there was. We're saying, we need

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to tear this down, we need to tear this down,

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we need to tear this down, This isn't a moral.

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This is a moral. This is a moral. Okay, Well,

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what's on the other side of that? What's waiting? And

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do you have people on the other side ready to

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save people? Because I know a lot of people other

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people who say, oh, well, I'm just waiting for everything

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that's collapse. Okay. Do you know who's going to be

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in charge after a collapse? The person who can feed people?

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Can you feed people? I mean, it's all it is.

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It's religion. And as somebody who is religious and somebody

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who has a catechism and goes this is what I believe.

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It's right here. I understand that, but this isn't. But

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you know, this is personal over here between me and

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my church. We're talking about all that we're talking about

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all the people and people that I care about too,

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people that I share values with. I don't want to

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see them hurt because somebody is. And I know these

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people don't desire power. I know they're no danger at all,

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but they could influence. They could influence something one day

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without understanding what's on the other side of that, and

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they may think, oh, I'm you know, and really it

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I'll bring up communism again. I've actually talked to people

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who were like, yeah, I don't care if other people

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have to die. Other people are going to have to

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die in order for us to in order for us

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to get through this. Well, I mean that just sounds

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like Lenin or Trotsky to me. M hm. So you

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know why I had somebody the other day tell me.

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I told him, I said, we're always going to have

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to have someone there who is above the law to

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decide the exception when it comes to you know, he said, Oh,

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if somebody breaks into my house, I'll just shoot them

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visual aanting justice. And I'm like, okay, but what if

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that guy didn't break into your house. What if you

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guys were playing cards and he beat you and you

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shot him. Somebody asked be there to make that decision,

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so well, somebody else can do it. And this person

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is just advocating for vigilanti justice and he's not doing

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it like in as, he doesn't sound like an insane person.

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He's doing this politely and we're just having a conversation.

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And I'm like, well, that's insane, first of all, and

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why would I want to be associated with people who

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were sharing ideas like that? And then people and then

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somebody will say like, well, no, just listen to the leaders.

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Listen to the leaders of the movement. You know, why

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are you listening to a nons on Twitter? Listen to

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the leaders of the movement. What are the leaders of

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the movement saying, what are their recommendations, where are their answers?

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I mean, especially if you start making a living off

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of this, and you make a good living off of

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being a quote unquote content creator. M hm, how much

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of the boat do you want to rock right?

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Speaker 1: Where the incentives like driving you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I can understand poor people who are

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just like, I'm desperate here, I'm willing to do desperate things.

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have a following or people listening to them or anything

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like that. But still, these ideas are just ridiculous. I mean,

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to not be able to have a conversation, to default

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to morality, especially people who want to preach morality to

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me who I know are atheists. It's like, yeah, I mean, sorry,

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your argumentation, ethics and your private this is an ideology

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about private property. That's not morality. Sorry, morality is not

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don't hurt people, don't take their stuff Okay, there there

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community and destroy a culture in a community where you're

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not people, where people aren't getting hurt, people aren't having

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their stuff taken from them, And see a lot of

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advocating for that too. I mean, if you are somebody

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who says, you know, prostitution should just be legal, it

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should be everywhere. You're my enemy, You're my enemy in

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your God's enemy. Yeah, your God's enemy.

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Speaker 1: I well, can I let let me back this up

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just the tad bit, because I have I have a

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couple of questions because I noticed something like whenever I

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discovered Orthodoxy and I started getting more involved with the

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church and I started going down that path becoming a

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catechumen and becoming orthodox, I noticed a lot of my

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mindset changed, and the way I looked at at politics

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and just the way I engage with the world that

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all changed, like my like just the structure of who

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I was and the way I view things changed. So

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how much was the rediscovering of your Catholic origins, Like

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how much did that influence the change in your thinking

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and then change in the way that you approach these subjects?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was just a way to go. It was

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once you figure out that something is not working, Once

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you figure out that something is not workable. You know,

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I think a lot of us, maybe including yourself, went

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through twenty twenty orre like. People don't want to be free.

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People want to be told what to do. You know,

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people are just sheep and they're waiting to be told

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what to do. Well, where does order come from? If

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you want order, people are going to have to be orderly.

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People are going to have to desire order, or there's

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going to have to be a mechanism in place that

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inrces order. Well, where does that come from? Is what

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is the basis behind that? Is it private property rights?

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Is it good economics? I think it goes beyond that,

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and I think it goes to that which cannot be

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seen and cannot be cannot be felt. I mean, which

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well can be felt, be felt on the inside, but

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it's not something you can reach out and touch. Everybody

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wants something that they can they can say, this is

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the exact way that this is going to work, you know,

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And Sam Francis said that, you said, every ideology works

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great in theory until it gets introduced to reality. And

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then as soon as it gets into reality, it's no

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longer in ideology. It just gets totally torn apart. And

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I think even like somebody like in the Libertarian party,

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you're seeing that with Angela mccardal, you know, being able

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to having aligned tomorrow lago and talking to people within

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the administration. You see libertarians, even libertarians that have like

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pot you know pretty you know, halfway popular podcasts, attacking

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her for getting in bed with getting in bed with

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evil or whatever. That you're not allowed to do that.

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You're not allowed to seek power. You're not allowed to

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you know, use power, or they'll do this thing that

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that's absolutely that. That's because people are so afraid, afraid

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of failure, and people don't want to look bad. They'll say, oh,

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you're just going to sidle up and he's just and

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he's just going to tell you what he wants to

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hear leads you down the path and you're not going

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to get anything. Okay. So if that happens, so what

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so what right? What do you or what? Okay? What

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are you gonna die of embarrassment because you thought something

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was gonna happen that didn't. Are you gonna look foolish? No?

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That's how politics works. And it's just sometimes you're gonna

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get what You're gonna get your way. Sometimes you're gonna

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be able to leverage, leverage things in your direction. That's

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the way life works. That's the way you know, if

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you're if you're talking to somebody and you're trying to

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talk down the price of a car you're trying to

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buy or something like that, you may I mean, these

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are the kind of people who are like, if you go, look,

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I can't go below twenty three I can't go below

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twenty three thousand, And you're like, I'm sorry, I'm not

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gonna go below twenty three five. And then you're like,

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all right, I'll do twenty three five. These people look

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at you like you're a loser or something like that

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because you wanted it a certain way and you didn't

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get it right. That's fucking that's life. That's life. Get

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out there and live it. Get out there and fail,

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Get out there and fail over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I completely agree with that. It's like what

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Matt Erickson was said for you know, a long time

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there in twenty twenty twenty twenty one. You know, don't

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let the perfect be the enemy of the good, you know,

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like you didn't. The United States did not end up

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in the situation that it's in today politically all at once.

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It was one step at a time, and you're only

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going to be able to chip away at it one

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step at a time. You're not going to be able

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to chip out. And I'll talk to some of my

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friends that are are Libertarians, and you know, I love

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these guys and we've been friends for years now, and

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they're like, yeah, but Trump's bad on Israel. And I'm like, look, dude,

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look at the political likener. They're all, yeah. I was

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like I told him. I was like, I've come to

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the conclusion that Israel is going to be the last

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cancer that gets cut out of the United States. Like

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and if you just accept that and you're like, okay,

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like what can we do, Like where can we start

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making like changes and what can we accept, you know,

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and just start looking at it from that perspective, then

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it kind of changes the way that you view the landscape.

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You're like, none of these people are going to be

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like my best friends. They're all billionaires. They all have

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power that they don't think about people like me whenever

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they go in you know, day in and day out,

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I'm not like at top of at the top of

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their mind. But at the same time, if they if

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they are more focused on my enemies than they are

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on me, then I'm like, Okay, well, at least we

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have something in common and I can kind of get

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behind them, you know. And I had the same idea

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with Peter Teel. I was like, yeah, maybe, like I've

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been saying it for years, like maybe tomorrow he'll do

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something that I just despise and I can't live with.

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But at this moment, he's my friend as far as

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I'm concerned, because like he's he's got his power focused

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in the right direction to destroy the things in the

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government that are actually harming me and harming my family. Right, So, yeah,

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I get exactly what you what you're saying. As far

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as you know, you can't you can't just go all in.

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You can't expect to get everything all at one time.

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Now with the federal.

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Speaker 2: Results, well, well, let mean, can can I answer Can

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I answer address one thing you said? There? So you

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said that you know I can support Peter Tiel right

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now and then he may do something until you know

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that will make you abandon him, you know later, there's

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a lot of people who can't deal with that. They're

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just not willing to deal with that because they it's

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more important that they're right than anything else. It's more

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important that they that they or they appear to themselves

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and so they're you know, the group chat, that they're right,

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that they don't make it, that they never make a mistake,

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that they never go out on a limb, that they

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never make a prediction. You know, one thing I learned

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from Matt Erickson was, you know, I said, I don't

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really like to make predictions. And one of the reasons

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I really don't like to make predictions is because I'm

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just bad at it. I mean, I'm you know, I'm

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pretty bad at it. And it's like and I'd rather

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wait and see. And Matt said, it's great to make

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predictions because now you have skin in the game and

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now you're there. You know. It's like it's like, you know,

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you've you've watched sports. Is sports more interesting when you're

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watching it or when you have a bet on the game? Right?

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You know? And these people are just a lot of

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these people are just cowards because they don't want They're

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not willing to if they leave theory, if they leave

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the theory that they're that they're so beholden to that

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if we just do this, I know that it'll make

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that it'll work, and you know, and I think a

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lot of that has to do with the fact that

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they know that it will never be implemented and it

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will never be tested in the world, so they always

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get to be right quote unquote right. But you know,

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I'm one of those people now who's just like, well,

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I mean, I'm gonna go off the deep end and say, yeah,

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I mean, I think I think there's a chance that

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Trump could really do some damage to the administrative state.

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I think that with people like the VEC there and

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with the Elon there, you know, and everybody's like, oh,

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Miriam Adelson gave him one hundred million dollars, Elon gave

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him two hundred and sixty million mm. Hm, Elon's expecting

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something back for that? Yeah, yeah, and well what is that?

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You know? And also Silicon Valley, how about how about

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what's his name from the Mellon family? He gave him

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one hundred and seventy million, right, Okay, so is he

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expecting something? And this is a you know, this is

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a wasp elite, you know, who's not like one of

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the black sheep in the family who was like pushing

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degeneracy in the sixties and pushing the hip movement and

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LSD and things like that. You know, this is this

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guy is like, you know, he's just a banker. That's

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all he is. He's a banker. Kill him, Kill the bankers. Well,

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I mean some of these bankers are trying to do

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their best to make the dollar worth more than it

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is right now. I mean, I can give you the

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names of people. Well, let's start with Private Equity, Powell

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at the Federal Reserve, Timothy Mellon, Jamie Diamond. Now these guys,

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and any libertarian should understand this. These guys may not

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be doing it for you. They're doing it for their

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self interest. But I remember when I read economics, it

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said that the reason why, well, you know, sometimes people

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are going to start a business because they want to

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get rich. But what whatever they produce their self interest

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could help you because what they produce could make your

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life easier, could make your life more prosperous. Right, so,

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but you but you're not allowed to deal with that

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because central banking bad Federal Reserve bad, and you know,

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and and the way I look at it is and

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Tom Luongo feels the same way about this. If the

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next person who gets into the Federal Reserve is you know,

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one of the old, Yeah, somebody who's not somebody who's

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not in eighth generation Virginian, maybe someone who's a second

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generation Ukrainian. If you know what I'm saying, then well

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then the Federal Reserve is our enemy again and we

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need to figure something else out. But right now, right now,

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things are looking really really good. And you don't you

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don't quit if you're winning seventy to nothing, you don't

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quit well.

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Speaker 1: And I was interesting because in that clip that so

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many people had had responded to, and I listened to

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that whole podcast, and I mean that was a very

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small segment of the podcast. It's not like that was

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the entire podcast. But and I find Tom to be

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very interesting. I like listening to him. I always learned

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something listening to him. He always makes me think. And

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so but I clearly remember in that little clip that

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he said it's not because he doesn't think that the

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Federal Reserve should eventually be gotten rid of and he's

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all about backing you know, backing the dollar with gold

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and the traditional libertarian view on money. He's just saying,

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at this moment, it's not the right time. You can't

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do it right now. And and I was like, well,

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that's a reasonable perspective, you know, there's you know, it's

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not like he's saying it's not like he's saying, no,

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the dollar's perfect, and the way that the Federal Reserve

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interacts with the with the United States is and the

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world is absolutely perfect. I mean, that's not what he said.

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He was he was making the point that at this time,

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it's not the right time to do that, because if

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you do that, it's going to cause a lot of damage,

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a lot of pain, and it's not going to be

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good for the United States, ultimately weakening the United States

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in the long run. And I thought that was just

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a reasonable way to look at that, that you know,

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that point of view and say, okay, well maybe there's

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a way to go about it, and to set something

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else up in the background while you're dismantling it from

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the inside and not just throwing the throwing the baby

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out with the bathwater.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I like that you mentioned there that

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you're setting something up at something You're like a parallel structure, right, Okay,

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well I know bitcoin is that bitcoin exists. I'm going

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to go by what the bitcoin experts that I respect

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the most, like car camp It people like that say

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that it's a bulletproof technology. Okay, well, how are you

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going to get everyone to use it? How are you

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how are you going to make it the how are

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you going to make it? As the book calls it,

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the bitcoin standard? You're going to well what is it? Well,

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eventually things are going to get so bad that, you know,

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governments are going to want to use it. Okay, how

472
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are they going to use it? As I mentioned before,

473
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,759
So you have a trillion dollar reserve of bitcoin, what

474
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,279
is stopping people who are not your people from lending

475
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:44,000
twenty trillion off of that trillion or thirty trillion off

476
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:46,559
of that trillion, Just like the Bank of London does

477
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,640
with you know, with with a with a hundred tons

478
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,119
of gold, with you know, with a with a one hundred

479
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,559
million dollars worth of goal, they lend one hundred trillion

480
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,000
against that. What's stopping them from doing that? The only

481
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,200
what can and stop them from doing that is you

482
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,640
taking over, You becoming the government. You becoming the state,

483
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,680
and you directing that and saying no, it's going to

484
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,799
be dollar for dollar with bitcoin. And until you're willing

485
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:19,440
to do that, shut up, because that's the way things work.

486
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,359
My buddy Charlie Charlemagne had a great tweet two years

487
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,960
ago or something like that. He said, libertarians are one

488
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,319
hundred percent correct when they say that the government is

489
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,480
organized crime. What libertarians don't understand is is that you

490
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,599
want to be the mobsters. You have to be the

491
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,799
mobsters or else you're never going to get your way.

492
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And there were mobsters out there who did good things,

493
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:50,200
took care of their neighbors, took care of their neighborhoods

494
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
quote unquote mobsters, but there were people in charge who

495
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,039
took care of things. Look at Boukelly right now. I mean,

496
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,519
I'm sure there are podcast as in El Salvador who

497
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,200
five years ago were saying the country can ever be

498
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,359
turned around? You know, we need to get out of here.

499
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,559
There's murders every day. Where the murder capital of the world.

500
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This is the worst place to live. And then as

501
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640
soon as bou Kelly started coming up and started doing things,

502
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,599
they were like they didn't change their tune because they

503
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couldn't because they only had one way of thinking. And

504
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:26,519
then you know it's probably like oh boo Kelly. You

505
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,200
know bou Kelly's doing But but somebody has to be

506
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,480
controlling him, somebody and maybe someone is I don't know,

507
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,559
somebody has to be controlling him. The other shoe is

508
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:38,680
going to drop. His wife is half Jewish. Okay, something

509
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,880
something's going to go wrong here. They can never allow

510
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,920
themselves to change their minds on things. That's the way

511
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,119
most people are. It's most people's nature is they get

512
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,240
stuck in something, and especially if they get stuck in something,

513
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,240
especially if they have I'll bring it back to this,

514
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,759
if they have no religion, they're looking for some kind

515
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:05,480
of system that allows them to have morality. For a

516
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,880
lot of people on the left, it is the state,

517
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
you know, like like type Kazinski talked about over socialization,

518
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,799
people becoming reliant upon the state, becoming activists. Seems like

519
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:19,279
a lot of people who are attracted to libertarianism or

520
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880
attracted to libertarianism because it allows for them to replace

521
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,400
sky Daddy with a system of books in a library

522
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,599
down in Auburn, Alabama, an hour and a half south

523
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:32,759
of me.

524
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: I had talked to Mark Claire about this a couple

525
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,559
of years ago about how he had viewed Ron Paul

526
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,920
much like the Christian's view Christ and that it was

527
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,640
a very it was very distressing to him to come

528
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,720
to the conclusion that Ron Paul was not a savior,

529
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that he.

530
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Speaker 2: Was just a man.

531
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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, Ron Paul was a very

532
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,480
religious man. You know, he's very faithful in his Christians

533
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,119
and I guarantee you he would never want anybody to

534
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,119
look at him that way.

535
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:09,759
Speaker 2: And the.

536
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: To know that that's how people look at the SYSM.

537
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,200
Part of what attracted me to libertarianism whenever I first

538
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,359
got into it was the fact that there there was

539
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,640
no state worship. Like the one thing I identified most

540
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:31,240
more than anything was people are worshiping like Obama, people

541
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,680
worship the politicians like that's like gods to them, and

542
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,400
it's weird, you know, And I just it gave me

543
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,160
the creeps, right, And even at that time, I was

544
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,680
calling myself agnostic, and because I was, and it was

545
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:49,799
just it was just it was creepy to me. I

546
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:51,960
just found it so creepy, and so that pulled me

547
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,680
into libertarianism. But then I saw with the in libertarianism.

548
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440
There are many factions of libertarianism, and it doesn't go

549
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240
for everybody, Like I have some great friends that are libertarians,

550
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,319
but there are some some factions of libertarianism that then

551
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,759
want to put on high a little you know, like

552
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,640
a Tom Woods or someone like that. And I'm not

553
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
saying that anybody worships Tom Woods. I'm just making this

554
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:17,440
point that they're trying. They're always looking for somebody to

555
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,559
put on the on the top of the mountain and

556
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,279
to you know, bow at the feet of And it's like, well,

557
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,559
you're just replacing God, that's all you're doing. And it

558
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,440
is disturbing to see that happen. And so when you attack,

559
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,200
you know, one of their core tenants, like destroying the

560
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Federal Reserve today, and they have that knee jerk reaction.

561
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160
You're right, it is a very religious way.

562
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Of looking at it.

563
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Instead of sitting there and saying, okay, what what exactly

564
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,480
would happen today? Maybe you can start answering some of this,

565
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,920
you know, just by some of the calculations you've done.

566
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,799
If we if we went in and we destroyed the

567
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,559
Federal Reserve today, there's no federal Reserve tomorrow?

568
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: What happened? And what are they?

569
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 1: What are the good positives? What are the negatives? And

570
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,079
we got to you know, everybody's got to look at

571
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:08,320
that and we have to weigh that out.

572
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, the question is, okay, you destroy the Federal Reserve tomorrow,

573
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:21,039
what what replaces the dollar? Nothing? The dollar still exists. Okay. Now,

574
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:25,800
who's in charge of the dollar? The Treasury? Janet Yellen?

575
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:33,480
Janet Yellen, who her her thesis, her pH d thesis

576
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:37,199
was on Marxist, was on labor theory of value? Or

577
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,320
are you going to send it back to Congress? Congress

578
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,360
who everyone has an APAC handler except for Thomas Massey.

579
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,000
So who's going to be in charge of the dollar. Basically,

580
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:49,480
who's going to be in charge of the dollar? Is

581
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:54,280
It's going to be the International Bank of Settlements. It's

582
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,840
I mean, the same people.

583
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: That control Congress right now. And that's what they don't look,

584
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,599
they're not looking. They're not the people that control the Senate,

585
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,599
that buy the Senate. These lobbyists, Big Pharma, Israel, you know,

586
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:09,480
through APAC, all these all these lobbyists are going to

587
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,480
now control the dollar. You know, they already have enough

588
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,559
control over how money's spent. We don't want to give

589
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,719
them control over the printing of the money because it's

590
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,239
already a big enough issue that most of the time,

591
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,039
when money is printed, it's given to the wealthy individuals

592
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,039
before inflation hits. And by the time it trickles down

593
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,280
to us peons working out in the streets and doing

594
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,880
the hard labor, inflation is already hitting and it's already

595
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,920
devalued the dollars. So that's already an issue, and it

596
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,440
would just escalate that issue. It would be worse, It

597
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,440
would get much worse.

598
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, the good question to ask is, okay, so if

599
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,239
Jerome pal is at the FED, he's an eighth generation

600
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Virginian and he is basically has gone to war with

601
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,719
the City of London. And I'm not talking about London,

602
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,000
you know, bad Teeth and Big ben There's this little

603
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,760
one square mile of the city called the City of

604
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,320
London in the middle, which is its own independent where

605
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,840
all the banks are. This is where like all the

606
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
bank is, where Lloyd's of London is. It's where all

607
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,079
the banks are. And it was settled a thousand years

608
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,920
ago by Kazarian Jews, and they still own it today. Okay,

609
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,599
and they still run it today. Okay. He's been at

610
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,320
war with them. He's been at war with the world

611
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,440
economic for him, he's been at war with the International

612
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,320
Bank of Settlements. He's been at war with lib Ar.

613
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,760
He got Libar completely. Libor was what was controlling interest rates,

614
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,559
our interest rates from overseas. He got a sense of

615
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,480
Chicago where it's now. It's so for and the United

616
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,800
States controls says interest rates. So here's a good question.

617
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If anyone controls Jerome Powell, who controls Jerome Pale investment banking?

618
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,000
I mean he's private equity, pal investment banks. Wall Street? Okay,

619
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,719
what do we know about Wall Street? Will Wall Street

620
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,760
exist if there is ever a central bank digital currency? No,

621
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,039
no commercial banking goes away. So Wall Street doesn't want

622
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:20,440
a central bank digital currency. I'm sure most libertarians don't

623
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:26,000
want a central bank digital currency. But isn't that what sometimes.

624
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Point would become if you replace the dollar with bitcoin.

625
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,079
Wouldn't it just be a CBDC.

626
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: Who's going to do that?

627
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,639
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying anybody's got to do it. What

628
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,280
I'm saying is it wouldn't it. It wouldn't it if

629
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,559
you if you turn bitcoin into a fractional currency, then

630
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:45,400
wouldn't it just become a central bank digital currency.

631
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's from what I understand, bitcoin itself, the technology

632
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,679
and the and the current, the the technology itself cannot

633
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,719
be fractionalized. That's what I've been told this what it's

634
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,679
been explained to me that they can't. So I'm going

635
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,039
upon that that can't happen. But what can happen is

636
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,400
what I've what I've already described, is it can become

637
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:11,960
a reserve. And what bitcoin people are hoping on is

638
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,760
preying on, is that that won't be fractionalized. You can't

639
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,320
fractionalize bitcoin because bitcoin is not going to be your currency.

640
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,119
The lightning network, even the adventure of the lightning networks

641
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400
is the lightning network doesn't work. It's not going to work.

642
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:26,360
It does work, I mean, but it's not going to

643
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,519
work for commerce the way they want it to work.

644
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,039
So you're going to have to have you're going to

645
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:36,039
have to have a proxy. Like yeah, how we were

646
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:37,760
on the gold standard at once. When we were on

647
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,440
the gold Standard, the proxy was the dollar and would

648
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,599
only you were only allowed a certain amount of dollars

649
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,880
to every once a goal. Well, that's the way it

650
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,880
should be for bitcoin. But the problem is is who's

651
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,239
going to regulate that. If you want the bitcoin to

652
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,039
be the reserve and there's only twenty one million bitcoins,

653
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,400
who's going to regulate how that if that gets are

654
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,480
you're only going to have twenty one million, say let's

655
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,559
say that it's not called the dollar anymore, it's called

656
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,199
the satoshi, You're only going to have twenty one million

657
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,199
SATs just called SATs out there. That sounds kind of

658
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,559
that's interesting, Okay, So that means that probably everything now

659
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,719
will be the equivalent most things will be the equivalent

660
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,440
of pennies unless you fractionalize it or maybe the bitcoin

661
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,599
guys have a better way of doing that, and I'm

662
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:32,559
willing to listen to it, but the way that But

663
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,800
that still does not change the fact that they're going

664
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,440
to have to be in charge. Who's going to be

665
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:45,039
in charge of If bitcoin is the only m one

666
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,280
reserve on the plant in the United States, who's going

667
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,400
to be in charge of that? Somebody has to be

668
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,119
in charge of that. Who is sympathetic to the bitcoin

669
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:02,840
bros And to libertarians who are promoting this is a currency,

670
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:06,639
or are promoting it as as a reserve. Well, there's

671
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only one way that's going to happen is you're going

672
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,880
to have to be in charge. How are you going

673
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,199
to be How do you get in charge? How do

674
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,079
you how are you going to be in charge of it?

675
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,199
When it's not against the interests of the managerial state.

676
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:26,519
This this this insane state, the system of government that's

677
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,599
existed for about one hundred years. Now, well, first of all,

678
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,039
how do you tear it down? And second of all,

679
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,000
once you do tear it down, who's gonna if you do?

680
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:36,199
Who's going to tear it down?

681
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: You?

682
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,199
Speaker 2: Are you going to? I mean, these are people who

683
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,719
say that you're like voting is violence? That voting You

684
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,760
know that that if you're a politician, you know you're

685
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:50,159
you're a thief, You're you're all you're doing is you're

686
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,119
robbing people's wealth. Okay, So how do you expect this

687
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,360
to happen? There is a practical side to everything. Okay,

688
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,000
you know, I think you and I both believe that

689
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:06,000
the Eucharist is the is the body of Christ. If

690
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,599
we don't go take the Eucharist, we can believe that

691
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,920
all we want, right, but we still have to go

692
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,800
to church, and we still have to get it right.

693
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,559
So we have to get off our ass and do

694
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,679
something right. Okay, well, I mean who's doing anything? What podcasting,

695
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,079
giving speeches, writing books? Great? You know, me and my

696
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,840
friends have decided to you know, we started something two

697
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:37,119
years ago this November eleventh where we're raising up young

698
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,920
getting young people and raising them up and showing them

699
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,440
what being an elite is all about. What being in

700
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,039
a natural elite is all about, getting into positions of

701
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,599
what getting into positions a power of book like so

702
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,039
that you reward your friends and you punish your enemies. Okay,

703
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:02,440
that's what politics is. Once you understand that politics is

704
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,360
rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies, that's it. There

705
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,039
is no we're all going to get along. Everyone knows this.

706
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,320
Even if you have even if you were to declare,

707
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,119
if you were to take over a town and declare,

708
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,920
we are going to run this now, like in Capistan,

709
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,599
You're going to have people who are going to revolt.

710
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,599
You're going to have people who are going to organize.

711
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,400
You are going to have people who are going to

712
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,719
put together military, a militia. You're going to have people

713
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,199
who are going to put together a government. You know,

714
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,320
that's one of the reasons why it's like I'm not

715
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,719
an anarchist, because it's like, okay, you know, you can

716
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,559
anarchists can say all they want that you know, if

717
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:48,280
you did tear down the government, government's inevitable. Great, okay,

718
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,440
if you understand that a government is inevitable, that people

719
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,880
are going to want a government, just do that now,

720
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,000
make it look like you want it to look like.

721
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:05,639
And when you consider that with what with what people

722
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:10,239
like Jerome Power have been doing, they've been weakening global

723
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,400
the global people who want globalism, who want there to

724
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,360
be like a one world government whatever I mean. I

725
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,639
know it sounds Alex jonesy and everything, but that is

726
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:21,880
really what they want. They want every they want all

727
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,639
governments to be the same. If you understand that that's

728
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:28,599
been weakened and then it's weakening, and that you understand

729
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,599
that we're going towards what Happa talks about more like

730
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,760
central is like a localized, decentralized kind of government. To

731
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,199
start building that now, because if even if you do

732
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,280
get it to even if collapsitarians get their collapse and

733
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,360
the government collapses, you want to have your infrastructure in place, right,

734
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:51,679
the best way to do that is to do that locally,

735
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,199
and that you know, that's I don't like to call

736
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,760
that libertarian because it's not a libertarian idea. I mean,

737
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,760
this is Hansiatically was before the term libertarian ever came out.

738
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,599
The Hansiatic League was very libertarian. It was very decentralized.

739
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,840
But if you don't have a plan, if you're not

740
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,360
if you don't have a plan and you don't understand

741
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,440
people's incentives, this is another term that the libertarian store

742
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,199
around all the time. They're like people who tell me,

743
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,599
you know, when I talk about how much degeneracy there

744
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:27,800
is in the culture and how much how much damage

745
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,320
that does, They're like, well, you know, if we had bitcoin,

746
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,840
it would people's incentsives would change. I'm like, okay, so

747
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,000
what you're what you're saying is okay, so people would

748
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:42,760
be wealthier, so people would have more and wealthy people

749
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:48,159
aren't degenerate. You think their incentives would change. Look at

750
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:51,400
all the people who like win the lottery. Now, all

751
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,800
of a sudden, they went from you know, living in

752
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,320
a very small home to having twenty million dollars. How

753
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,960
many of them does that work out? For knowing. Why. Yeah,

754
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,239
and I'm not saying that, you know, I want everybody

755
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,199
to be poor and everything things like that. But when

756
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,840
you have when you have a cohesive culture, when you

757
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,079
have people who share values, when you have people who

758
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:24,920
speak the same language, it's easier to organize. People are more.

759
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,760
Sweden famously had a very free market economy up until

760
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,000
a certain point in the middle of the twentieth century,

761
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,559
and then they decided that they were going to basically

762
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:43,880
become this huge welfare state, and people complained about it.

763
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,960
But on in mass people didn't complain about it. People

764
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:49,760
do not complain about the welfare state in like Iceland.

765
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,280
Why don't people complain about the welfare state in Iceland?

766
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,599
I mean you might get one or two outliers, or

767
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,760
maybe a hundred or even a thousand, but still when

768
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,760
you consider that the percent of the population, most people

769
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,199
are perfectly fine with the welfare state in Iceland. Well,

770
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,960
why because everyone there's like seventh cousins. The same with

771
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:16,360
Sweden until they started importing every you know, mentally ill

772
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,519
African and Middle Eastern are into the country. And then

773
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:23,079
people are like, well, I mean this probably should only

774
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,159
be for people who are from Sweden. You know, that's

775
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,559
the way we designed it at first. That's the way

776
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,039
I've actually heard them talk about that too. H that's

777
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,440
the way you that's the way you get you know,

778
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,039
this is one thing I've always said this, if libertarians

779
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,079
ever get their way, it's going to look exactly like

780
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,039
the kind of world I want to live in. Because

781
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:48,880
the kind of world I want to live in is

782
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,039
the only way you're going to have libertarianism where it

783
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:56,119
is there, where it's a small group of people and

784
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,880
they all share that they share the same values. And

785
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,199
people can say, oh, well, that's just a covenant. You're

786
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,920
just talking about how covenant communities where you can have

787
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,079
a communist community over here, and you can have a

788
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,960
conservative community over here and you have a narco capitalist

789
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,320
community over there. That's not gonna work. First of all,

790
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
you have a communist community over there. When of communists

791
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,519
ever left anybody alone? Okay, I mean it's just it's

792
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:28,000
just a matter of time, Okay. So reward your friends,

793
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:32,719
punish your enemies, build what you want. I mean, I

794
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:39,440
don't but understand how the world works, and understand how

795
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,559
it works now and not and don't understand that if

796
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,320
you were to just all of a sudden overnight. I

797
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,800
know Rothbard's about this. Oh if you could, if you

798
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:56,159
was a snap your finger or something. But yeah, push

799
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,400
a button. Oh, I'd break my finger pushing that button.

800
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,960
Do you know how many people would die? Do you have?

801
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Many people would starve to death? Do you know how

802
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,800
many people? I mean, what's waiting? You know what's waiting

803
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,280
The same exact people who are in charge now, is

804
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,079
there anything, is going to be the only ones who

805
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:19,079
are going to be equipped to feed anyone. They're the

806
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,519
only ones who would even have the infrastructure to do that.

807
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,639
You don't have any infrastructure at least the agorist talk

808
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,400
about building, you know, parallel infrastructure even though heavy industry

809
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,840
is never one thing that they could they could deal with.

810
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,880
And you know, I mean, how do you know the

811
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,920
only way to do banking is to do it privately?

812
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,199
And is your you know, how's your grandmother doing with

813
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,840
her bitcoin wallet? Things like that? But now you're okay,

814
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,599
say well, I'll just take care of my family. I'll

815
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:50,360
take care of my grandmother. Now you're speaking my language.

816
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,880
How about doing that now? How about starting now? How

817
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,119
about getting everything set up now for the world you

818
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:02,920
want to see, And I'll ask the question again, how

819
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,679
are you going to get to the world you want

820
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,000
to see other than wish casting, throwing your penny in

821
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:13,639
a wishing well, or just saying, oh, I hope everything

822
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:17,679
falls apart. Just believe me, if everything falls apart, no

823
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:19,800
one's going to be the only people who are going

824
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,360
to be begging to be an narco capitalist or people who

825
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,320
are a narco capitalist right now. I guarantee you a

826
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000
lot of those people are not going to begging to

827
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,360
be an are not going to be a narcho capitalist anymore.

828
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, all right, let's I want to I

829
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:39,360
want to talk about doze a little bit before I

830
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,360
let you go, if you don't mind. So we we

831
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,320
were talking a little bit about you know, you check

832
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,440
and see why a fence was built before you tear

833
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:56,800
it down. And after seeing how Elon attacked Twitter whenever

834
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,880
he went in and by attack, I mean he just

835
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:02,239
taking it on head on and dealt with the problems

836
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,000
that were going on at Twitter before he was the

837
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:08,199
CEO and seeing him go in and cut like eighty

838
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,960
percent of the workforce and Twitter is actually functioning still

839
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,719
really well, if not a little bit better than it

840
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,480
was before, and it still seems like they're making quite

841
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,239
a bit of improvements. I'll get off of Twitter for

842
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,960
a few days and I'll get it back on and

843
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,239
I'll notice little tweaks here and there that I hadn't

844
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:31,119
seen before. So I feel like with him in Vivek

845
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,440
being very competent and successful business owners, understanding what it

846
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:42,320
takes to build a business, see that business thrive, and

847
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,719
cutting the fat off those businesses in order to be profitable,

848
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,679
I feel like they'll have like a very clear sense

849
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,280
and a view of how to attack the federal government

850
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,039
and look at all these different bureaucracies and agencies that

851
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:02,000
are existing and be able to consolidate agencies that do

852
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,000
duplicate work, like the FBI and the Federal Marshals, and

853
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,480
be able to consolidate those down to one agency and

854
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,679
things like that. And I think it'll it'll happen in

855
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,480
a very quick fashion, and that the United States, as

856
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,840
far as the citizenry, won't feel a lot of the

857
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,559
pain from this, and that most of the pain is

858
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,880
going to be government bureaucrats losing their jobs and actually

859
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,639
having to enter the private sector for the first time

860
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:31,039
in their lives. Am I missing anything in my assessment

861
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:32,119
and how I'm looking at this?

862
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean the first thing you have to

863
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,119
realize is that if they do what needs to be done,

864
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,079
there's going to be a lot of people out of work.

865
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,599
I think the executive just the executive branch employees two

866
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:52,239
point eight million, so I mean most of those have

867
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,000
to go, and that's going to people are going to

868
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,239
be screaming about on all these employed people and everything.

869
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,800
I mean, at this point, just give them, give them

870
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,920
a year's worth of salary, let him go. I'd rather

871
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:10,519
just pay people off. It's like the whole reparations thing

872
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:13,920
for black people. I'm perfectly fine with that. As long

873
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,519
as you leave. You have to leave the country, you know,

874
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,880
and then we'll just destroy the dollar after that. And

875
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:29,480
you know, you want to have anything. But but what

876
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,719
you need to what people I think what people need

877
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,159
to understand is if they understand how the administrative state works,

878
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,280
you know, and really the best way to understand the

879
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,880
administrative state is to read like The Manager or Revolution

880
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,360
by James Burnham, and a lot of people will be like,

881
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,920
well he makes a lot of mistakes in there. Well, yeah,

882
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,960
he was making a lot of predictions. It just didn't

883
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,559
come true. And I actually heard somebody say today that

884
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:56,000
was criticizing Burnham because he said that Hitler was going

885
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:59,679
to win, And I'm like, in nineteen forty everyone thought

886
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,519
Hitler was gonna win. I mean, I mean, he just

887
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:09,559
basically I mean they walked, they walked into France backwards

888
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,840
and told them that they were leaving, and they took over.

889
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,599
I mean everyone thought that. But you know, Burnham shows

890
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,719
that what a managerial state looks like, what a managerial

891
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,199
state looks like is it's basically the deep state is

892
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,239
you have this state, a permanent state that's always in

893
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,800
charge and it doesn't matter if you get the most

894
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,960
ideologically possessed person in there, they're not in charge. And

895
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,800
from what I've seen and if they did an interview

896
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,719
this is a year ago, over a year ago on

897
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,280
the on the Sean Ryan podcast, by two and a

898
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,760
half three hours, and he really like lays out what

899
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,159
the what the managerial state is and how to dismantle it,

900
00:53:56,679 --> 00:54:00,239
like how you would do it, and he understands. I mean,

901
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,039
there's a guy who's obviously read Burnham, obviously read elite theorists,

902
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:13,400
and he understands how this all works. So I think

903
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:17,159
one thing that's smart about him is he's not an anarchist,

904
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,679
so he's not looking to destroy the state. He's trying

905
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,000
to get the state to a point, the point where

906
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,280
one person can be in charge it was supposed to be.

907
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:32,000
You have the executive. The executive. The executive makes the decisions,

908
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:34,559
he has a cabinet, he has people around them, he

909
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:39,159
has advisors, but his is the last word. And that's

910
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:41,239
not always going to happen. You're always going to have people,

911
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,000
elites who are going to be speaking to you, whispering

912
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,639
in whoever's in charge his ear. Now we have Elon there,

913
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,079
we have a vake there, David Sachs is going to

914
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:53,639
be there. There's gonna be a lot of people there

915
00:54:54,039 --> 00:55:06,440
who have own but it in February. In February of

916
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,920
this year, you know, and we we understood that if

917
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,800
these guys were going to go all in on Trump,

918
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,760
they weren't going to expect to get something out of it.

919
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,840
So we just started breaking down, what do we know

920
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,639
about these guys, Well, they do business with a lot

921
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,880
of them just got rich doing business with the government. Okay,

922
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:27,840
I didn done the same thing if I were them.

923
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,960
They all came out of almost all of them came

924
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,039
out of college at the same time nineteen ninety when

925
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:38,360
Pat Buchanan is saying the Soviet Union's falling, we need

926
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,679
to become the shining city on the hill. You know,

927
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,119
we get and you know, there was a time in

928
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:46,880
this country where the smartest and the brightest, and Elon

929
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Musk would be working in the government. David Sacks would

930
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,639
be working in the government. Mark Andresen would be working

931
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,400
in the government. But they saw at that time that

932
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:58,199
the government doesn't want them. The government wants war. So

933
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,840
let's go, let's go make an enough money so that

934
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:07,039
maybe one day, you know, and I'm just I think

935
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,480
I've listened to them enough that I'm not like, this

936
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,840
isn't fanfic, that this is probably the way they were

937
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,599
thinking that. So we we're going to need the kind

938
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:19,400
of capital to do the kind of things we want

939
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,679
to do, to have the kind of life we want

940
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,000
to do. Is to see the kind of future we

941
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,639
want to do. Elon is obsessed with going to Mars.

942
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,400
Everything he does, those robots, those robots are designed to

943
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,199
work on Mars. I mean, yeah, sure, he may sell

944
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,480
them commercially to factories here or even to you know,

945
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,199
people people may buy him for their home, to become

946
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,360
like a maid or something like that. All that money

947
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,079
is for him to get to Mars. Why does he

948
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:46,119
want to get to Mars. I don't give a fuck.

949
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:50,239
I don't care. All I know is that that's what

950
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,519
his incentives are, okay, And in order for him to

951
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:57,400
be able to do that, we're going to have to

952
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,800
have a completely different kind of because they're not going

953
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,760
to allow it. I mean if when he was being

954
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,039
interviewed with Tucker by Tucker Carlson at the beginning of that,

955
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:12,519
he said they were laughing because they both went all

956
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:14,639
in on Trump, and they said, if Trump doesn't get elected,

957
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:17,920
we're going to jail. And they would have found some

958
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,559
way to put probably both of them in jail. They

959
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:22,280
would have taken his businesses away from him. They would

960
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:28,119
they would have destroyed him. So then you there was

961
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:31,400
a good episode called Little Tech Wars with Andresen and

962
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,920
Horowitz where they talked about why they were supporting Trump,

963
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,440
and then Horowitz at the last minute backed out and

964
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:45,599
endorsed Kamala. I guess Horowitz got the call, but Andresen

965
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:50,960
you know, kept going and supported supported come up and

966
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:56,880
supported Trump. These guys are in his ear. They're expecting

967
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,440
to get something for what they did. And the one

968
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,000
thing I know about these guys is they prize competence.

969
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,880
And if there is one thing that we haven't had

970
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:14,039
in government, it's competence. Yeah, there's no one competent there.

971
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:16,840
There's no one competent there. So what are they doing.

972
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,320
They're trying to put together teams that are the most competent.

973
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:24,000
Do I like Trump's? Do I like Trump's some picks

974
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,079
on his cabinet? Some of them, some of them might

975
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:32,039
absolutely despise and anyone who knows me knows why. But

976
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:40,000
the what I'm seeing them do, and especially with Doge,

977
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:41,880
to bring this all the way back to Doge, is

978
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,000
I think you're going to try and dismantle the administrative state,

979
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:52,199
the deep state? And can they do it? No? Idea,

980
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,840
I low probability. Do I want them to do it? Yeah?

981
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,519
Am I going to cheer them on? Yeah? If they fail?

982
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,360
And does that mean I'm a failure? No, means I

983
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,719
had hope something that seems to most people can't afford

984
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,039
these days. Either, they can't afford it, or they're embarrassed

985
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:11,519
to have it.

986
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: Like the Patrick David Future looks bright type idea. Man,

987
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,280
you can't you can't be nihilistic about.

988
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: All this stuff. We all have lives to live, we.

989
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,519
Speaker 1: Have families to take care of, people that depend on us.

990
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,920
You can't go through the world nihilistically, or you're ruining

991
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,880
multiple people's lives, not.

992
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,639
Speaker 2: Just your own. So well, you know, you remember when

993
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,800
I left libertarianism, and one of the things that they

994
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,199
that they said was, oh, you're just black pilled. Look, man,

995
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,840
there is nothing more black pill than a libertarian who

996
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:52,119
is just reading books and hoping you're you're not doing

997
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:56,039
anything to improve your life. Look, I I moved to

998
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,840
an area where the cost of living is very low.

999
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,519
I love a great I love a great life. I

1000
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:09,960
have great friends. I've put together a great network of

1001
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:17,320
people who I can rely upon, and people who know

1002
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:19,840
that they can rely upon me, and people who know

1003
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,440
that I'm going to sacrifice for them. And that's not

1004
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,519
something I ever really heard people talk about when I

1005
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:33,639
was a libertarian, right, you know, I remember there was

1006
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:37,400
this meme going around I guess twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

1007
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,360
and it was completely facetious. It was anarchists unite, and

1008
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,239
people are making fun of it, as they should. Anarchists

1009
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:46,840
are going to unite to do anything. Well. I mean,

1010
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,599
you saw a bunch of anarchists, you know, join the

1011
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:53,320
Libertarian Party. I mean I was there too in the

1012
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,039
beginning when all that was happening.

1013
01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:56,519
Speaker 3: And.

1014
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:02,639
Speaker 2: It's good to see that some libertarians are now getting it.

1015
01:01:03,679 --> 01:01:08,199
Some libertarians are like, they're living in the real world

1016
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:12,320
and looking for real world solutions while still hoping that

1017
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,000
there's something that their vision you can happen down the line.

1018
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,679
But if you're not willing to, if you're not willing

1019
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:26,400
to like take the little the little victories and build

1020
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,800
towards something, that means you're just waiting for things to collapse,

1021
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,840
or you're waiting for things to change overnight, and that's

1022
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,199
not going to happen. I mean collapse. The people who

1023
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:41,320
are in charge right now are living way too well,

1024
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,199
way too high on the hog to let this collapse.

1025
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,320
They're just not going to allow it. I mean, I

1026
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,800
became a libertarian what twenty seven, two thousand and seven.

1027
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,960
Immediately what did I start saying, Oh, the dollar's going

1028
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,880
to crash, the dollars going to crash. Dollars is going

1029
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,679
to crash any day. Dollars is going to crash any day.

1030
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,039
Is what seventeen years later? Mm hmm, what am I

1031
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,280
gonna sit around going, Oh, the dollars gonna crash when

1032
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,679
the dollar is more is maybe it's purchasing power isn't

1033
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,079
is as good as it needs to be. But when

1034
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:14,039
you compare it to all the other currencies in the world,

1035
01:02:15,639 --> 01:02:16,920
it's number one right now?

1036
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it. Uh, it was like the beginning

1037
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,599
of the year. I believe the euro was like a

1038
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:28,760
dollar sixty five, maybe even closer to two dollars. And

1039
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,039
now whenever I was because I just got back from

1040
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:35,039
Namibia a few weeks ago, and uh whenever I was,

1041
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,079
uh in at Heath where that was Namibia. It's south

1042
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:47,519
southwestern Africa. Okay, you've heard of the Skeleton Coast. Not really, no, Okay,

1043
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:50,119
well that's that. It's like South Africa and just a

1044
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:54,599
little bit uh north northwest of South Africa is Namibia.

1045
01:02:54,679 --> 01:02:59,719
It's where Beatrix. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's where Beatrix stads from.

1046
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:01,920
He's from Namibia. So I went, I went and met

1047
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,719
him in South Africa and then we flew over to

1048
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,679
Namibia and did like a two week road trip through Namibia.

1049
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,199
That's cool that it was awesome, but but yeah, like

1050
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:14,559
whenever I was in like a heath Row, it was like, uh,

1051
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,920
the it was like a dollar twenty five the euro

1052
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:20,760
was and that was I mean, that's down almost like

1053
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,599
fifty percent since the beginning of the year.

1054
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll give you one even better. When I was

1055
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,639
growing up and I'm I'm older than you, I'm probably

1056
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:31,199
ten years older than you. When I was growing up,

1057
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:37,360
the British pound was two dollars to one dollar. One

1058
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,760
of our dollars, it's a dollar twenty five. Now it

1059
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,559
was almost like for decades it was pegged at two

1060
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:50,480
dollars to the American to one American dollar. And now

1061
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:52,280
all of a sudden it's down a buck and a quarter.

1062
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,159
And now it's down seventy five cents. I mean that's over.

1063
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:59,559
It's over sixty six percent. Sixty six percent, yeah, roughly six.

1064
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:04,239
I mean, there's something happening, and it's Jerome Palell. It's

1065
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:09,639
what Powell's been doing. And to stop him from doing

1066
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:14,440
that right now is basically saying, Okay, I want all

1067
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,519
of these foreign nations, nations that have their sites set

1068
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:26,840
on us to win. And you know, I mean, you

1069
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,800
can be an anarchist and go, well, I don't even

1070
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,639
believe in states. They're legal fictions, they don't even exist. Okay,

1071
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,840
that doesn't change the fact that all of this exists,

1072
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:45,199
All this infrastructure exists, the money what you use to

1073
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,239
buy food unless you live in an area. And I

1074
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,360
know there are probably a couple of people who live

1075
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,719
in an area or listening to this who can use cryptocurrency.

1076
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:59,719
I mean, but that's the outlier. Ninety nine point, you know,

1077
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,599
percentage of people are relying upon the US dollar in

1078
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:08,280
order to do this, you know, in order to live. Okay, well,

1079
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:12,920
why would you want to see that go bad? And

1080
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,920
I mean, yeah, and I understand, Oh, Pete, you're not

1081
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,199
even thinking about Look at how much inflation went up.

1082
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:25,079
And I completely understand that. You understand it could be worse, right, yeah,

1083
01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:27,559
you understand it could It could be a lot worse

1084
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,079
if Pal didn't raise interest rates the way he did.

1085
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,679
And he was like, well, he was just trying to

1086
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:35,559
raise interest rates to fight inflation, Okay, maybe, or maybe

1087
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:39,400
he was raising interest rates to make it impossible for

1088
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:44,920
to make it harder for our enemies to buy our money.

1089
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:51,320
Mm hmm, yeah, I mean it's right now. The City

1090
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,800
of London is like going to like Saint going for

1091
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,960
Saint Kitts and all these different places to try and

1092
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
buy our debt. That selling just so that they can

1093
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,800
have something that is worth something, you know, they're getting

1094
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,920
money from They're getting gold from Argentina. Malays sending gold

1095
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,639
to the City of London for you know, from Argentina,

1096
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,599
so they can have money to lend it, they can

1097
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:20,440
have collateral to lend against, you know. And Longo said

1098
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,280
on the show that he thought that they set that

1099
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,000
gold to buy the Falkland Islands. I'm sorry. I did

1100
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,440
some research, and you know, I love Tom, but we

1101
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,320
get we get stuff, you know, we're off on stuff often.

1102
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,199
And I'm not finding any research showing especially since they

1103
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,559
just found new uh they're doing new drilling there. I

1104
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:42,639
don't think England's giving that up. So you got to wonder, well,

1105
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:47,239
why did that gold go there? And I'm not saying

1106
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,119
anything about Malay, I don't you know, I know a

1107
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,360
lot of people are just all over that guy's dick,

1108
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:59,920
but I don't trust. I don't trust someone I need

1109
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:06,800
to see somebody like dramatically improving things over over a

1110
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,280
couple of years. And I think, you know what we've seen,

1111
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,559
Malay from all the numbers I've seen, as long as

1112
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:15,320
you're true, he's improving things. And I hope that that

1113
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,519
stays that way, because I think Argentina is a great

1114
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:22,440
country and great people. But whether you believe it or not,

1115
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:28,679
how has made our lives better by staving off these people,

1116
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,480
these forces like the World Economic Forum and and the

1117
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:37,119
Bank of London and you know these the ECB, the

1118
01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:41,760
European Central Bank, from taking over and doing great damage

1119
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,079
to this country. When I say country, I mean people.

1120
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,119
I'm no fan of the government of this country, especially

1121
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:53,840
this regime, but I mean I care about the people,

1122
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:57,440
and I know that that's even anathemata, that's even anathemat

1123
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:02,559
to some libertarians. I had a a very popular libertarian economist,

1124
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,559
you know, when I was talking one time, I had

1125
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:07,159
talked about, you know, this will help people. He's like,

1126
01:08:07,159 --> 01:08:12,320
why are you looking to save people? Okay, Well, I mean.

1127
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:17,239
Speaker 1: That's well, I'm certainly not looking to harm people, you know,

1128
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,600
And yeah, I mean part of that perspective also comes

1129
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,880
back to you know, our you know, our strengthening of

1130
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,399
our faith in Christianity is because I know, like prior

1131
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:35,800
to like stumbling headfirst into Orthodoxy as clumsily as I did,

1132
01:08:37,119 --> 01:08:41,000
that everything I looked at, every policy I looked at,

1133
01:08:41,039 --> 01:08:43,119
it was from my own lens. I didn't care about

1134
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:45,720
anybody else. I wasn't worried about anybody else. And now

1135
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,760
like now I find myself like like much more soft

1136
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:54,079
hearted towards other people and how it affects other people

1137
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:59,079
when when the when the government is you know, abusing

1138
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:02,760
their power, and you know I would, I would do

1139
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,359
stories on police violence and stuff like that, but it

1140
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,520
was it was more out of selfish like I don't

1141
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,239
want this to happen to me, you know, like more

1142
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:13,520
than it was like I cared about what happened to

1143
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,800
that person. And I feel like that is completely flipped

1144
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:19,640
over the last like two years.

1145
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:23,399
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're doing episodes on police violence,

1146
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:29,199
you're basically showing how you're exposing how people are being

1147
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,840
taken advantage of. And there's something good about that, you know,

1148
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,399
something that my friend's Stormy Waters obviously not his real name,

1149
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:39,119
talks about.

1150
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: Remember that my boss's name is stormy.

1151
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: Is it really that's amazing. But he the first time

1152
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,640
he and I ever got on the phone, he had

1153
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,399
like text, he had DM me like in February, and

1154
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,680
then we didn't get on the phone with each other

1155
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,399
until like, I guess July or August. And one of

1156
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,720
the first things he asked me was he said, over

1157
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,479
the last few years, have you found that you've been

1158
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,199
like more emotional, Like it's almost like you're going through

1159
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,880
like menopause or something like that. Like you'll see a

1160
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,880
story in the news and it's not like you get weepy,

1161
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,920
but you get like a righteous anger and that it

1162
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:21,840
caused you to get misty and almost like you know

1163
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,920
want And I was like, yeah, I've been. And what's

1164
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:31,159
funny is we talked everyone. We talked to most of

1165
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:34,479
the people guys are like, yeah, that's where I've been.

1166
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,359
And I've gotten to the point where if you don't

1167
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,720
if that hasn't been you, because I see that as

1168
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,479
a shift in you know what Moran Chuck talks about

1169
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,600
the spirit of the age where he talks about you're

1170
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,439
going from like the age of the devouring mothers of

1171
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,359
the vengeful son, and when that happens, when you have

1172
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,319
these When you have these shifts, it's almost like a

1173
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:59,760
shift in consciousness, and it causes people to their emotions

1174
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,039
to be a lot more in tune with what's going on.

1175
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,840
And you know, Stormy said this, he said this to

1176
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,600
the other I think it was on our last panel

1177
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,039
show that we're doing the inquisition. He said, if you're

1178
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:17,079
somebody who hasn't really hasn't been experiencing that in the

1179
01:11:17,119 --> 01:11:19,880
last three or four years, is I don't really want

1180
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,640
anything to do with you. You know, you're not helpful to me.

1181
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,920
You're not You're not somebody who's going to help change

1182
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,199
things for you know, in the direction you know, for

1183
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:37,359
human flourishing. You're that's not you. You're if you can

1184
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,720
look at like you know, it's like like we're recording

1185
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,760
this on the day that the verdict came down to

1186
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,680
Daniel Penny is not going to jail. Yes, I almost

1187
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:55,600
started crying. I almost started crying. Yeah, and yeah. If

1188
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,840
that's not yeah, if that's not If that doesn't elicit

1189
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,840
that kind of emotion of you, then it tells me

1190
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,079
that you're probably not in tune with what's been going

1191
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:09,520
on in the world, especially since COVID. Maybe you don't

1192
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,760
see maybe you see COVID as tyranny, where I just

1193
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,000
see it as like an abstract evil force took over

1194
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:22,000
and just you know, went after us, went after humanity

1195
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:30,159
and unleashed, unleashed, you know, something on humanity that should

1196
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:33,439
have opened a lot of people's eyes to where we're going,

1197
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:42,119
but also should have understood that, you know, there are

1198
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:47,319
people out there who really want you dead. And if

1199
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:50,680
you're not taking that seriously, if the way you take

1200
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,039
that seriously is by going I just need to read

1201
01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:56,600
more Rothbard, and I just need to get more people

1202
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,279
to read Anatomy of the State. You're not going to

1203
01:13:01,319 --> 01:13:04,920
make it. I mean you're not, Yeah, you're not. I

1204
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,479
definitely don't want you. I definitely don't want you on

1205
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:17,159
my side because this is all spiritual warfare, all of it. Yeah,

1206
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,119
and and not And to not recognize that, to be

1207
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:24,479
so blind to that, then you know, the Bible says

1208
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,880
that God will blind people and harden their hearts towards

1209
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,239
certain things. And you can complain and say he's and

1210
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,039
you know he shouldn't do that, but you know he

1211
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:38,800
has a monarch and he's a king, and you can

1212
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,279
do what he wants and especially if you're not willing

1213
01:13:42,359 --> 01:13:44,359
to come over in our director you know, come over

1214
01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:47,279
in the direction of people who actually see what's going

1215
01:13:47,319 --> 01:13:48,359
on in the world. Right now.

1216
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: I've heard Stormy ask that question before, and maybe it

1217
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,600
was just the way he worded it. It didn't really

1218
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:58,000
strike me the way that you just worded it it,

1219
01:13:58,479 --> 01:13:59,760
like the way you just put it.

1220
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:00,079
Speaker 2: Like.

1221
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:07,279
Speaker 1: I always just thought that was just my conversion, right, Like,

1222
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,840
I just thought that because I went from being like

1223
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,039
kind of embittered and angry at the world for so

1224
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:18,560
long and that's kind of what drove me into libertarianism

1225
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,000
and agorism and all that, and then finding orthodoxy. I

1226
01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:25,520
just felt like the softening of my heart, like the uh,

1227
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,840
like becoming more sympathetic and empathetic towards towards society and

1228
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,520
towards the world. And I thought that was just my conversion.

1229
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:40,520
But it's very yeah, No, it's very possible that it's

1230
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,479
just being in tune with the spiritual warfare that's going

1231
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,199
on around us.

1232
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:48,039
Speaker 2: It's either or in both. It's all of it. Yeah,

1233
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,840
it's all of it. Uh Yeah, I mean you're you know,

1234
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,159
you you have to find a way to fight it. Yeah,

1235
01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:59,079
I've I think I found a very comfortable way to

1236
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:01,880
fight it, and well, if a way to fight it

1237
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,279
that works for me. But you know, one of the things,

1238
01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:06,479
Stormy and I are going to start a new series

1239
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,359
on Wednesday, and it's going to be all about in

1240
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:17,960
the metaphysical and what can't be seen and mysticism and

1241
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:23,319
how the government, how this government figured figured out how

1242
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:26,840
to use metaphysics as a weapon against its enemies, and

1243
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,119
how this has been declassified and how you once you

1244
01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:33,800
once you start reading those papers which I was reading

1245
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,680
like ten years ago, but I wasn't ready for it.

1246
01:15:37,159 --> 01:15:40,520
It was papers that I had stumbled upon, declassified stuff

1247
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,520
I'd stumbled upon ten years ago, and I just wasn't

1248
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,920
ready for it. And now I'm and now I'm reading

1249
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,439
it again and I'm like, oh wow, Wow, we can

1250
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,399
actually fight this, and we we can actually fight this

1251
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,960
and we don't need bullets. I mean, we can win

1252
01:15:56,039 --> 01:15:57,359
and we don't need bullets.

1253
01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: Well, can I ask you something on kind of I mean,

1254
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,720
it kind of runs parallel to this, at least in

1255
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,960
my mind it does. Okay, So, so Tom had made

1256
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,479
a comment on your podcast that anybody who's worried about

1257
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,880
brick the bricks Nations is like basically half ass retarded.

1258
01:16:16,039 --> 01:16:18,560
They don't know what they're talking about. And they're they're

1259
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,600
they they're just they're looking at it all wrong. When

1260
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,680
I don't look at like what just happened in Syria

1261
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,399
over the weekend. I'm looking at the Ukraine, Russia, you know, conflict.

1262
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,159
I'm looking at China, you know, getting ready to annex Taiwan.

1263
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,880
You see what's going on with the Israel and Gaza.

1264
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:40,119
It really looks like there's the beginning of this global

1265
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:44,000
world war like occurring a World War three, you know,

1266
01:16:44,039 --> 01:16:47,560
you might call it. And with America sticking its nose

1267
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,920
all over the place and in financing a lot of

1268
01:16:51,920 --> 01:17:00,199
these wars. How much of this do you think is

1269
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:06,039
is related to Jerome Powell and and his his kind

1270
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,760
of like butting heads with the city of London. How

1271
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,479
much do you find that this is spiritual? How much

1272
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,760
of it is just the American hedgemon trying to you know,

1273
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,640
you know, uh get full scale domination across the world.

1274
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,000
Like what are we looking at as far as the conflicts,

1275
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:28,760
the way that it uh coordinates with the money supply

1276
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,319
and the and the spiritual war that we've been dealing with.

1277
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at a dying regime, and it's

1278
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,159
a regime that has controlled the whole of the West.

1279
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,520
You know, what what people call the West, Western culture,

1280
01:17:46,279 --> 01:17:51,319
Western European culture hasn't existed in eighty years. Once they

1281
01:17:51,359 --> 01:17:55,800
split up, once the war ended, and you know, they

1282
01:17:57,359 --> 01:18:00,640
had to defeat those evil, evil Nazis. So let's give

1283
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,880
half of Europe to the Communists. Once they split that up,

1284
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:13,399
the western side of Europe and the United States needed

1285
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:20,479
to become one. The whole goal was to tear everything

1286
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,399
down so that there was no longer a such a

1287
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,520
thing as a German or a Swede or a brit

1288
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,960
And you know, a lot of that first started in

1289
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,800
Britain with a lot of immigration, the wind Rush, the

1290
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,840
wind Rush ships in nineteen forty eight coming in bringing

1291
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:44,239
in Jamaicans and basically what you've seen and you see this.

1292
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,680
The plan was actually laid out in a book called

1293
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:51,359
The Authoritarian Personality. Was done by Theodore d'arnault and three

1294
01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:56,840
other guys from the Frankfurt School, and they basically said, okay,

1295
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:02,560
so what makes someone a fascist? What potentially makes someone

1296
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,680
a fascist? And how do we stop them? From becoming fascists,

1297
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,840
and they basically said they needed to tear down the family,

1298
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:17,199
they needed to stop getting prevent people from going to church. Basically,

1299
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:21,760
anything that was traditional needed to be not only destroyed

1300
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,279
but also delegitimized in the eyes of the public. You know.

1301
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,760
And you will talk to a lot of libertarians who

1302
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:34,199
find that to be you know, oh, that's that's in

1303
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:40,600
our past, and it happened. And the way we know

1304
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,680
that that book. First of all, then you go back

1305
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,359
and you find out that the Frankfurt School was working

1306
01:19:46,399 --> 01:19:51,239
with the CIA, and you know, that's how that it was.

1307
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:52,760
Like people are like, well, that just said that in

1308
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,319
a book. It's like, well it came true, right, you know,

1309
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,640
interesting that it actually came true. You know. It's like,

1310
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:06,319
you know, the book Rules for Radicals. Yeah, that's just

1311
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:09,640
a book, but we see, we see those rules played

1312
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,079
out in everyday life all the time, and they worked.

1313
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:19,279
So basically the West was destroyed. And the one thing

1314
01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:26,199
that they didn't rely upon, and this is something that

1315
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,920
you saw. The turning point for me that I can

1316
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:38,239
point to is October seventh. After October seventh, when you

1317
01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:40,800
read The Authoritarian Personality, you look at who wrote it.

1318
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:44,479
There's four people who wrote it. It's kind of hard

1319
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,199
to ignore that three of the names are from the

1320
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:56,159
same tribe. And then you you look at like the

1321
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,640
World Jewish Congress and they put out these videos that

1322
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,960
say that we were responsible for the Civil Rights Act,

1323
01:21:01,039 --> 01:21:03,479
we were responsible for women voting, we were responsible for this,

1324
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,720
we were responsible for that, we were responsible for gay rights.

1325
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,279
And yeah, they use they actually use Harvey Milk, somebody

1326
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:13,720
who like was known to be having a relationship, you know,

1327
01:21:14,119 --> 01:21:17,279
relations with fourteen year olds and fifteen year olds. They're

1328
01:21:17,279 --> 01:21:25,920
actually bragging about this. And you know, they took over

1329
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:29,119
the universities too, you know. And what's funny is you'll

1330
01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:34,479
have Christopher Rufo just talked recently about how, you know,

1331
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,960
how successful the Jewish people have been in academia, yet

1332
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:50,000
he's somebody who attacks academia. After October seventh, they realized

1333
01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:53,319
some of the people who are the thought leaders in this,

1334
01:21:54,279 --> 01:21:56,399
the were the forebear.

1335
01:21:56,399 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 3: The the the people who are care on the tradition

1336
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:05,720
of this of deurrascination and destroying the nuclear family and

1337
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,399
destroying and seeking to get people to not be Americans,

1338
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,159
not be Americans anymore, and not be Germans.

1339
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:14,319
Speaker 2: It's more important to do it in Europe because you

1340
01:22:14,359 --> 01:22:21,000
know that's where the war was. People started. Well, all

1341
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:26,479
these people who didn't grow up in church and weren't

1342
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:34,840
taught that Israel is God's people and that they can

1343
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,840
do what they want. And if Israel doesn't rebuild the

1344
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:44,279
Second Temple, Jesus isn't going to come back. Well, you

1345
01:22:44,279 --> 01:22:48,039
have a whole generation of people now who didn't go

1346
01:22:48,079 --> 01:22:51,319
to church to learn that. Where would they possibly learn that?

1347
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:59,479
And they started revolting on campuses and then when oh shit,

1348
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:09,479
our gollums are turning on us, and you saw panic.

1349
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:14,800
Anybody who remembers the Ben Shapiro videos, Dave Rubin who

1350
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,640
had never even talked about being Jewish in the passing

1351
01:23:19,039 --> 01:23:21,399
Except in Passing, you saw all these people who, like

1352
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:28,560
all of a sudden, they had this awakening of their identity,

1353
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,840
or maybe they had their identity all the long, and

1354
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,760
they were just all along and they were just hiding it,

1355
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,560
and they felt like they had to bring it out now.

1356
01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:40,479
And people went and a lot of other people who

1357
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,279
I mean I was already awakened to this. I was

1358
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:50,119
awakened to this in nineteen ninety eight, went wait, a minute.

1359
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,720
How do these people have so much How does this

1360
01:23:52,800 --> 01:24:00,079
one group have so much power? And I think it

1361
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:10,199
caused insane panic within Jewish power left and right, especially

1362
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:15,680
right wing Israel just started going nuts, started killing people randomly,

1363
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,079
killing civilians didn't matter, just dropping bombs on them. And

1364
01:24:20,319 --> 01:24:22,880
you know, of course they get to say that everyone

1365
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,880
they kill is Hamas, everyone we killed is a terrorist,

1366
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,239
all four every two year old we killed as a

1367
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:34,159
terrorist or a potential terrorist and hild yeah or yeah.

1368
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:38,079
Human shield. That's that's always my favorite too. Masad headquarters

1369
01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:41,560
is right in the middle of a busy Tel Aviv neighborhood,

1370
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:44,840
but that's not a human shield. I mean, if you

1371
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,199
were if you were going to go to war with them,

1372
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,159
and you wanted to take out their intelligence, you'd have

1373
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:52,840
to take out a residential neighborhood. But that wouldn't be

1374
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,239
considered a human shield. It wouldn't be considered using being

1375
01:24:56,319 --> 01:25:00,720
human shields. And I think they went into panic mode.

1376
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,640
And I think that's what you're seeing. I think you're

1377
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:10,920
seeing is crap. A bunch of people have started to

1378
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:15,840
recognize that we have this overrepresented power in a lot

1379
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:21,560
of different things. Thomas Massey coming out on Tucker's podcast

1380
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:27,479
and saying that everyone, everyone, everyone in Congress has an

1381
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:33,760
apac handler mm hm. Candice Owens starting to talk about things.

1382
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,439
People just people talking about this and it becoming an

1383
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,920
open conversation and people who are listening to this right

1384
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,840
now who are like, this is complete anti Semitism. People's

1385
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:50,479
talking pizza talking about because you're just not allowed. You're

1386
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,560
not allowed to talk about this. If you talk about

1387
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,359
black crime. Oh yeah, I mean that's that's racist, you know,

1388
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:58,159
I mean, you shouldn't be taught, you know, you start

1389
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:03,640
making socioeconomics, the economic arguments and excuses and everything. But

1390
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,720
it's a special kind of evil if you talk about

1391
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,720
these kind of people, when you talk about Jews, when

1392
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,399
you bring up the fact that, oh, who started the

1393
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:17,439
Ukraine War Victoria Newland and prosecuted Anthony Blincoln. How they're

1394
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,159
all from one tribe and all of their ancestors come

1395
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:27,279
from Ukraine. And there's more synagogues in Odessa than there

1396
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:29,119
are in all of Israel.

1397
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,520
Speaker 1: To the look what they're doing to the traditional Orthodox

1398
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,000
Church in the Ukraine now, I mean, they're completely decimating it.

1399
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:43,279
If you you can follow follow Father John Whiteford on

1400
01:26:43,279 --> 01:26:46,920
on his telegram, and he's got stories after story after story,

1401
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:51,359
day after day after day, how they're completely desecrating the icons,

1402
01:26:51,359 --> 01:26:55,920
how they're completely desecrating the church, How they're like just

1403
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,159
just you know, perversely, you know, going in there and

1404
01:27:01,159 --> 01:27:03,560
you know, putting on this liturgy and turning it into

1405
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,960
like a clown mass type of situation like you.

1406
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,159
Speaker 2: Had with the with the Catholics a while back.

1407
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, and it's just this complete perversion of the

1408
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,479
whole Orthodox faith. And it's like, what is happening and

1409
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,159
why are we allowing this to happen?

1410
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: And what a Jewish president and a Jewish president is

1411
01:27:21,039 --> 01:27:25,479
doing it, you know, is presiding over it. And I

1412
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,239
think that's what we're seeing. I think we're seeing. But

1413
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,640
I mean, honestly, I think what happened over the weekend

1414
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,720
is you know, it's like you said earlier, you said,

1415
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,640
Israel is going to be the last domino to fall.

1416
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,279
I think what happened over the weekend. This was my opinion.

1417
01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:44,199
On Saturday night when they called it, I said, they

1418
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:46,279
went to Russia. I don't know who they is. It

1419
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:48,680
could be the Trump administration, it could be the current administration,

1420
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,039
it could be the incoming administration or the current administration,

1421
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:54,399
or a combination of both, and said we will give

1422
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,760
you what you want in Ukraine, wind everything down, and

1423
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,439
went to Iran and said, we will leave you alone.

1424
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,920
You just can't back Syria. You can't back Syria. And

1425
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,079
what's happening right now. And I think somebody also got

1426
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:12,600
a hold of the Syrian Arab Army, because the Syrian

1427
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,800
Arab Army is one of the greatest armies on the planet,

1428
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:25,960
and they stood down. So somehow this huge group, I mean,

1429
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,199
there's no way, Okay, So anyone who knows anything about

1430
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:31,800
the Syrian Arab Army knows that there is no way

1431
01:28:32,079 --> 01:28:35,720
any foreign force or any force within there. The quote

1432
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,279
unquote moderate rebels al Qaeda whatever they're calling themselves now

1433
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,960
could take that country in a week, in less than

1434
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,800
a week. But they did, and it's because some kind

1435
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,239
of deal was made and some kind of standing down

1436
01:28:49,359 --> 01:28:51,399
order was made. I'm just glad that Asad and his

1437
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,560
family are in Russia and they're safe, because I did

1438
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,159
not want to see that great man end up like

1439
01:28:58,199 --> 01:29:04,079
Paddafi in the streets. Yeah, and yeah, that's what I'm seeing.

1440
01:29:04,279 --> 01:29:11,199
I'm seeing. I think that they they managed to you

1441
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:13,640
know Israel managed to pull a w out of all this.

1442
01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:20,079
Now what's happening now? I mean, looks like infrastructures being bombed.

1443
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:22,000
It looks like the country is going to be left

1444
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,279
to head shoppers, just like every other country gets left

1445
01:29:25,279 --> 01:29:28,399
to head schoppers everywhere. But what I think you're seeing

1446
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,720
is is it, to go back to your question, is

1447
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:38,279
it because of Pal Maybe a little bit, Maybe that's

1448
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:41,359
a consideration, but I think it had I think it

1449
01:29:41,399 --> 01:29:43,720
has more to do with what happened on October seventh,

1450
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,359
and that a lot of people's eyes were just opened,

1451
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:52,199
and a lot of people's consciousness, even on the Israeli side,

1452
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,600
were awakened. And you saw what you've been seeing since

1453
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:01,079
October seventh, that you've basically been seeing. You've been seeing

1454
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:04,119
a year of ideologies. I even think that I think

1455
01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:11,359
that left left uh liberal Jews and conservative Jews are

1456
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:13,439
having a war with each other to this day. I

1457
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,520
think that started on July, on on October seventh as well.

1458
01:30:19,159 --> 01:30:22,119
Speaker 1: Just a from the Russian perspective, I just wanted to ask,

1459
01:30:22,319 --> 01:30:25,439
so you think there was a deal cut with Russia

1460
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,039
that they would take a sod and and give him

1461
01:30:30,079 --> 01:30:34,880
refuge in return, the Ukraine war winds down, they get

1462
01:30:35,319 --> 01:30:39,920
the don Bass and Crimea, but in exchange they give

1463
01:30:40,039 --> 01:30:42,840
up their naval base in Syria.

1464
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,279
Speaker 2: Right, because if they get their naval if they get

1465
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:50,640
don Bass, and if they get don Bass and Crimea,

1466
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,439
they don't need they don't need a port. They don't

1467
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,520
need that port in the Mediterranean anymore. Now they have

1468
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,880
Now they have ports. Now they have port access to

1469
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,720
the South. And you know, Iran obviously just wants to

1470
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,800
be left alone. And the whole Iran thing was was

1471
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,439
bluster anyway, because anyone who's studied this, and I've done

1472
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,720
several episodes on this, you can't win a war with Iran. No,

1473
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,840
you don't want to go to war with Iran and

1474
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,039
Iran especially Yeah, yeah, I mean you can draw them out,

1475
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,079
you can, you know, you can draw them out and

1476
01:31:21,079 --> 01:31:24,439
maybe fight them in Iraq or fight them get them

1477
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,239
to come to Syria or something like that. But you

1478
01:31:26,279 --> 01:31:28,520
cannot win a war in Iran. First of all, you

1479
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:33,560
have no place to stage. From the last war gaming

1480
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:36,000
that I heard from a friend of mine who was

1481
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:38,840
actually part of that war gaming, which has been declassified

1482
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,920
now in the aughts, was they were going to stage

1483
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:47,239
from Azerbaijan. They can't. You can't stage Azerbaijean isn't even

1484
01:31:49,079 --> 01:31:51,239
a good place to stage from. You can't. You're not

1485
01:31:51,239 --> 01:31:52,880
gonna be able to stage from Turkey. You're not gonna

1486
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,119
be able to start stage from Afghanistan. You'd have to

1487
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:57,880
re you'd have to reinvade Iraq to to go in Iraq.

1488
01:31:58,279 --> 01:32:00,239
It's just not a war that can be won. And

1489
01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:02,800
you can't even win that war from the air, right

1490
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,920
because you because because of the I mean, the first

1491
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,399
thing you want to do when you consider any kind

1492
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,199
of war, even air war, is pull up a topographical

1493
01:32:12,279 --> 01:32:16,880
map of the area. It's all mountains, and you have s.

1494
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,119
Four hundred systems, possibly s five hundred systems sitting behind

1495
01:32:21,159 --> 01:32:23,159
those mountains, and they can pretty much shoot anything down.

1496
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,399
Speaker 1: So the only the only thing I consider is I

1497
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,560
heard somebody talking about this the other day that if

1498
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,239
the US were going to like declare war on Iran,

1499
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,640
they wouldn't they wouldn't stage in Iserbaijan and and actually

1500
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,760
go to kinetic war. What they would do is they

1501
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,640
would just shut off all the imports of food going

1502
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,720
into Iran because Iran can't really grow anything, and so

1503
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,920
they depend on imports for food, and so they would

1504
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:54,720
just starve them out.

1505
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 2: You'd have to You'd have to have Russia on your side. Yeah,

1506
01:33:03,039 --> 01:33:05,720
that would make sense. Yeah, you'd have to rush on

1507
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,039
your side because Russia would figure out a way. Iran

1508
01:33:08,079 --> 01:33:10,600
has been such a great ally to Russia that they

1509
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,079
would make sure that Russia Iran got taken care of.

1510
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:15,600
So you'd have to find a way for Russia to

1511
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:18,680
shut them out. Turkey is a wild card and all this.

1512
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,840
Nobody even knows what Turkey is now. I mean, just

1513
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,119
six months ago they were threatening to invade Israel and

1514
01:33:25,159 --> 01:33:30,359
then now they just helped to topple Syria. So who

1515
01:33:30,359 --> 01:33:33,600
the hell knows what's going on? Man, I mean, there's

1516
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:38,600
so much to this, and I really just think it's

1517
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:46,720
going towards the post war consensus is dying. You're seeing

1518
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:55,119
more conservative leadership being elected in European countries, even when

1519
01:33:55,159 --> 01:33:57,960
they say like they just did in Romania where they

1520
01:33:58,119 --> 01:34:02,079
just said no, they made it, made it invalid. All

1521
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:07,760
that does is just empower empower the right. You know what,

1522
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,119
what you can call the right or what I would

1523
01:34:10,119 --> 01:34:15,399
call nationalists. It empowers nationalists more, and you're not gonna

1524
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:16,479
be able to do that. You're not gonna be able

1525
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,239
to stop them forever. It's like, you know, they're talking

1526
01:34:18,239 --> 01:34:22,119
about alternative for Deutschland a FD in Germany. Oh well,

1527
01:34:22,359 --> 01:34:28,920
you know, we just outlaw them. Okay, you're just gonna

1528
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,000
make them stronger. You're just gonna make You're gonna there's

1529
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:34,640
gonna be more people. You're gonna have smarter people who

1530
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:39,399
are gonna Yeah. I mean, it's right now, we're in

1531
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:44,720
that midpoint where the old world, this old regime, still

1532
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,600
has a lot of power and it is doing a

1533
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:51,359
lot of damage. But anybody who can see, and especially

1534
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,159
if you look at it from a metaphysical lens, you

1535
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,640
can see that it's dying. You can see that it's

1536
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:01,159
being defeated. You can see, you know, if you know

1537
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,720
your Bible, if you know your church history, you can

1538
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:09,960
see what's happening with this regime and this ideology that's

1539
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,199
taken over the West and basically destroyed it, and you

1540
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:17,239
can see how it's phasing out and how you're going

1541
01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:20,279
to have this shift. Now, that shift can happen, That

1542
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:24,159
shift can take fifty to one hundred years, but it's

1543
01:35:24,199 --> 01:35:29,399
obvious that it's happening. You know, I've said, I said

1544
01:35:29,399 --> 01:35:31,319
probably a year a year and a half ago, that

1545
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,439
I thought that the spirit of the New Age was

1546
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:40,000
going to be authoritarianism, either left or right authoritarianism. And

1547
01:35:40,319 --> 01:35:42,840
I don't think it's going to be left authoritarianism, because

1548
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:48,239
that's basically what it's been for one hundred years. But

1549
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,880
that's also not something that can normally happen overnight. People

1550
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,039
are going to have to become accommodated to it. I

1551
01:35:56,039 --> 01:35:58,760
think the spirit of the age and I think Miranuk

1552
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:04,399
when Maranchuk talks about, you know, the avengeful sun archetype

1553
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:09,119
that points towards authoritarianism. And you know, given the choice

1554
01:36:09,119 --> 01:36:11,880
of a left or right, I would choose right, but

1555
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,000
I'm ready for left too. So yeah, I'm just I'm

1556
01:36:16,039 --> 01:36:20,239
just realistic. I mean, what I like to live in

1557
01:36:20,319 --> 01:36:24,760
a you know, nice in a community that was so

1558
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:32,039
tight knit and insular that it could be live like

1559
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:36,920
a have a libertarian kind of sure, but that also

1560
01:36:37,039 --> 01:36:42,159
depends on it being monocultural and you know, people sharing

1561
01:36:42,199 --> 01:36:44,880
the same values or anything like that. I don't think

1562
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,359
that happens. And I don't think you know, another thing

1563
01:36:48,399 --> 01:36:49,920
that I've said that I know a lot of people

1564
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:52,319
you know, just haven't listened to me in a while,

1565
01:36:52,359 --> 01:36:57,439
but I've said that. Yeah, the reason Singapore works is

1566
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,479
Singapore is not monocultural. People will look at it and go, well,

1567
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:06,479
it's you know, Asians. There's different Asian groups, and Asian

1568
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,640
groups hate each other. I mean, do you think the

1569
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,520
Chinese and the Japanese like each other? Right? Do you

1570
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:17,039
think the Chinese and the Vietnamese like each other? I

1571
01:37:17,079 --> 01:37:21,800
mean the reason they get along and why Singapore is

1572
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,159
seen by I mean, I know libertarians, you know libertarians

1573
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:28,000
who moved there, you know, bitcoin like people who've made

1574
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:30,039
a ton of money off of bitcoin and they move there.

1575
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,920
The reason why it's so orderly and why you can

1576
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,960
drop your wallet and someone will pick it up and

1577
01:37:35,359 --> 01:37:37,279
chase you for six blocks to give it back to

1578
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:41,760
you is because it's an authoritarian regime. You can't have

1579
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:49,680
multiculturalism without the threat of without the threat of you know,

1580
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:54,279
somebody of the state clamping down upon you, or someone

1581
01:37:54,359 --> 01:38:00,560
clamping down upon you and you know, whipping you, which

1582
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,439
which they do they do lashes with I forget what

1583
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:08,279
kind of they came people like publicly right, Well, that's

1584
01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:10,960
the way you if you want to have a multi

1585
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:15,159
cultural society. To me, the only way I can see

1586
01:38:15,159 --> 01:38:19,199
that that works is by having that by having authoritarianism,

1587
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,600
and by having that kind of threat hanging over people's heads.

1588
01:38:23,279 --> 01:38:29,880
The the only way you're going to have peace, you know,

1589
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:35,159
when you go to you know, when people talk about

1590
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:38,479
places in the world where there isn't a lot of crime,

1591
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,359
well by El Salvador right now, it's El Salvador libertarian.

1592
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,279
I think a lot of people would say that bou

1593
01:38:46,399 --> 01:38:52,520
Kelly is a dictator, benevolent dictator. Where do you have

1594
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:58,560
you know, or like one of my other favorites is well,

1595
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,960
you know, and those cities are so violent is because

1596
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:09,760
they have Democrat mayors. Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine have

1597
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:16,760
Democrat mayors all over the place, big cities. What three

1598
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,960
states are in the top five of like least amount

1599
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:26,359
of crime and violence in the country, Vermont, New Hampshire

1600
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:33,079
and Maine. What do they have in common? Are they monoculture?

1601
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:40,520
Are they multicultural? Maybe start taking that into consideration. And

1602
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,600
then you look at places like New York City where

1603
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:48,560
unless you have a cop on every other corner, which

1604
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,199
they did when Giuliani cleaned up the city quote unquote

1605
01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:58,399
cleaned up the city, you're going to have violence. So yeah,

1606
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,079
that's what I'm saying. That's what I've come to. That's

1607
01:40:02,119 --> 01:40:04,560
what a lot of people will say is just completely

1608
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,680
racist and antisemitic and all sorts of phobics. And I

1609
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,359
don't care because I know I'm right.

1610
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, your give a fuck me broke a few years ago, so.

1611
01:40:19,079 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why they waste their bro.

1612
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all right, man, plug away, I got to

1613
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:27,439
get off here.

1614
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:33,399
Speaker 2: Yep, Piginana show all Podcatchers doing a really good series

1615
01:40:33,399 --> 01:40:37,000
with my friend Thomas now on California, the history of

1616
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,960
California and how California went from the reddest state in

1617
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:46,840
the nation to what it is now. And it wasn't organic,

1618
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,079
let's just say that, and it's still a red state.

1619
01:40:50,319 --> 01:40:54,640
Most people just don't aren't willing to accept that. Pizze

1620
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,399
subsack dot com where I try to do three things

1621
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,079
a week. I'm taking care of my wife now with

1622
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,560
after her surgery, so not having a lot of time

1623
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,960
to do stuff in the morning, so just I'll be

1624
01:41:08,199 --> 01:41:10,439
I'll be in and out on that for the until

1625
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,439
until she heals up a little more. And then the

1626
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:17,079
old Glory Club old Glory Club dot Com. See what

1627
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:20,359
we're doing, having chapters opened up all over the country

1628
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:27,359
and we're looking to it's a fraternity. Yeah, that's exactly

1629
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:34,000
what it is. It's a return maybe of each other

1630
01:41:34,119 --> 01:41:38,000
up and help each other succeed in whatever we wish

1631
01:41:38,119 --> 01:41:40,319
to do well.

1632
01:41:40,359 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: Pete, Man, I always appreciate that you're always willing to

1633
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,000
come on and chat with me and just be open

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and about how you feel about things. Man, It's always

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fun to have these conversations.

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Speaker 2: No, Man, I appreciate it. Tommy. I wish I last

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time I was in Texas recently, I wish I could

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have seen you, but you were I think that you

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were traveling. That was when. That was when you were traveling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably I was. I was going most of October so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so. Yeah, that's when we were there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I got I got back like middle of November,

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so I was going about three three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you for inviting me on.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, I'm gonna stop the recording