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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen. What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>special guest. I got another person from North Carolina on,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is very exciting for me. But before we

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<v Speaker 2>do get to the guests, then let me introduce the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the rejects on the show. Julia. What is

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<v Speaker 2>going on? Julia from Cosmic Peach. Please let everybody know

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<v Speaker 2>what your deal is.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me again, Nick, looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 3>one Cosmic Peach podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts, this

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<v Speaker 3>one is right up my ali, Illa Fair, normal stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Hell yeah, and thank you for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got Brooke from Dark Florida coming on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously if I got the paranormal, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to get her own with us. So what is going on? Broke?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you hi? I'm happy to be here with

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<v Speaker 4>all the fellow rejects. I'm excited. You can also find.

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<v Speaker 5>Darkford podcasts wherever you listen to podcasts, and really excited

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<v Speaker 5>to get into some of his stories. North Carolina is

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<v Speaker 5>a spooky place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I'm honestly, I'm looking forward to hear about

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<v Speaker 2>places I could possibly go to myself now, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know much about this state at all, So this

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<v Speaker 2>is like research for me. And we got the Headless Giant.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on? My man? Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for being here as usual, and you're muted, just to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know real quick. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me

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<v Speaker 6>on x and YouTube and if you want, if you've

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<v Speaker 6>got any paranormal stories, I'd like to get them from

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<v Speaker 6>you and put them on my show on Thursday nights.

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<v Speaker 6>You can email me your paranormal stories at the Headless

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<v Speaker 6>Giant podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Thank you very much. And finally to the guest himself, Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sorry to ask you this. I play

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<v Speaker 2>should ask you before. Is it's spooky CLT or spooky Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the celt just short for Charlotte? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>pronounce it?

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<v Speaker 1>I say CLT, But spooky Charlotte is the message I'm

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<v Speaker 1>communicating by saying that. It's the airport code for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like one of those things that you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>on a T shirts and hats. It's just part of

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<v Speaker 1>our identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's okay, all right, So yeah, after I screw

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<v Speaker 2>that up, it's spooky CLT. Please let everybody know where

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<v Speaker 2>they can find like your stuff, you know, or anything

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<v Speaker 2>you want to advertise, all the shows you've even been

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<v Speaker 2>on if you want to plug it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if you look for spooky CLT, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>No one else is doing it. So I'm primarily on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at spooky clt, and then there is a spooky

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<v Speaker 1>clt dot com as well. That's more so event postings.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I did not even know that. I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to go check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as active. It's kind of my archive for

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<v Speaker 1>like when I've been on the like different segments and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I usually post about it there. Ok, just have a

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<v Speaker 1>list going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice and I will include all those links in

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom when the show drops. I guess, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just to get into it. What even got you into

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<v Speaker 2>the paranormal?

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been into the paranormal to you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>say spooky because spooky is such like a broad term

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<v Speaker 1>a versus the paranormal, and it's definitely a focus. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not it, you know, aspects of just real history

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<v Speaker 1>are are spooky true crime. I consider spooky folklore spooky.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a little bit of everything. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal covers that as well, but yeah, I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>just always been into that now. The reason i started

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<v Speaker 1>Spooky Charlotte specifically was because I'm not from Charlotte. I

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<v Speaker 1>am a transplant. Sounds like you're a transplant in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not alone. I grew up in Connecticut, predominantly York,

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<v Speaker 1>although I was a Navy brat, so that had a

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<v Speaker 1>part of to do with it. My family on my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's side has deep, deep connections and roots in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I went to when I was deciding where

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school, I went to U and C

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<v Speaker 1>Wilmington and I've just been here since, except for I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Florida for a bit working for Disney. I

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<v Speaker 1>did their college program. But I moved to Charlotte coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on ten years. It was twenty sixteen, and they

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<v Speaker 1>instantly I understood that the culture, and like the personality,

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<v Speaker 1>the reputation it had was like Charlotte has no culture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's brand new in the eyes of a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's because there's a lot of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>skyscrapers that have just gone up in the past twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just grown in a way that not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other cities can. And because of that, we have

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of our older buildings. There are still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot around, but I'm doing my best to show

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<v Speaker 1>people that shar it does have history, it does have culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm doing it the only way I know I

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<v Speaker 1>can do it well, and that's by doing it through

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<v Speaker 1>telling ghost stories and that includes true crimes Charlotte, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been collecting folklore things that you won't find

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, history books, like the Urban Legends per

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<v Speaker 1>se or we do have some like area specific cryptids.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just trying to be a source for people

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<v Speaker 1>who are into that. So they they're interested in spooky

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and they want to know more about Charlotte, they

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<v Speaker 1>can do both at the same time. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>page became what it is is because I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be the account that I was looking for when

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<v Speaker 1>I was learning about Charlotte, and that's how I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And almost ten years later, I've been having the account

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<v Speaker 1>for eight years. I've learned so much, but also realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have not skimmed the surface, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to go, and I'm going to be doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as i want to. I'm learning something new.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my long winded explanation of what spooky

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<v Speaker 1>clt is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's awesome, Just really real quick to ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you happen to know. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever been to Greenville in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that area where ECUs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's that's where my brother went to school,

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<v Speaker 1>so I visited him there before, so I'm familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the college bars and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even know which ones to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten plus years ago, so I'm sure they're all different.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, would you say that's would you say Charlotte's more

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<v Speaker 2>more of a city than Greenville? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I thought, because when you said skyscrapers, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think of Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte's always within like the top fifteen places of where

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<v Speaker 1>people are moving toast twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Like going to city? Yeah, like how dare you? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I like Greenville because he said it's less population. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just be totally honest with you or it seems like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh so, like all right, uh, I know cemeteries

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<v Speaker 2>is a big thing. He goes when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>that about any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I've gotten super involved with cemetery preservation just

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're into spooky stuff, that's where you're inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kinna end up. So luckily, our Historic Landmarks Commission

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<v Speaker 1>has been doing events every like probably once a year,

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<v Speaker 1>headstone cleaning events where you can like learn and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>provide the equipment, like you know, and clean these historic headstones.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that idea so much. I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rolled with it, and I've been brokering, like the Landmarks

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<v Speaker 1>Commission with other cemeteries to get them to do it there.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one we had was just I think in March,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are cleaning this two and fifty year old cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>There's hundreds of people buried there, but now it's right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the city, so it's gone through

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<v Speaker 1>years of being around people. So there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of headstones left. There's probably one hundred or so, but

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<v Speaker 1>we got out there and we cleaned them all. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're using like a type of solution where it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep making it look better over the next few years. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing about or lately that I've done with

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<v Speaker 1>cemeteries is I've raised the money to fix the headstone

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<v Speaker 1>of a man named Charlie Hawk, and he was killed

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<v Speaker 1>by a lion. And that's what his headstone says. It

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<v Speaker 1>says Charlie Hawk killed by a lion. Happens in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. So I wanted to fix this headstone because

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool, you know, like it's a cool thing. Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any family anymore. He died in the nineteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took it upon myself to raise the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars. And the way that I raised that

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<v Speaker 1>money was I won. I portrayed him at a living

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<v Speaker 1>history event out there saying like, Hey, I'm Charlie Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>killed by a lion. I don't have an arm asking

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<v Speaker 1>for money that way. Yeah, his arm got ripped off,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how That's how the lion got him. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the trainer for the circus and just one night it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go well. Way to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, hopefully he was quick, Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't because he officially died of infection. So

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<v Speaker 1>it happened over the course of a few days. But

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<v Speaker 1>like his circus family who paid for the headstone, like

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<v Speaker 1>they loved him enough to put on there, killed by

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<v Speaker 1>a lion because they're like, people are gonna want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's bad ass, you know, that's almost to be

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<v Speaker 1>proud of, at least the way he was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I got the headstone fixed by way

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<v Speaker 1>of raising money. And another thing I did was I

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<v Speaker 1>did a historic tour and a paranormal hunt of a

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<v Speaker 1>historic building in Uptown Sharp And that's the other way

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<v Speaker 1>that I raised money to do that. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been my thing because this past Friday the thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>I did something very similar. Now this one's crazy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm talking, like interject with your own

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<v Speaker 1>stories at any time or else I'll keep the appen.

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<v Speaker 1>But so here in Charlotte, North Carolina, is a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Morris Costumes. And Morris Costumes is pretty much like

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<v Speaker 1>the what Spirit Halloween is a ripoff of? And I

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<v Speaker 1>say that because you know Spirit Halloween seasonal, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>fast fashion of Halloween. Pretty much. Morris Costumes is all

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<v Speaker 1>year round, and they're the ones supplying actual costumes for

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<v Speaker 1>like movie sets, school plays, like theater productions. And over

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<v Speaker 1>the years they've been doing that at a huge scale,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm talking like the Burton Batman movie scale. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones applying the costuming for that all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to you know, like East mech High School and Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of their focus now. And they have this

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<v Speaker 1>shop on Monroe Road in Charlotte, and they've been saying

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of years that they believe that it

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<v Speaker 1>is haunted by Philip Morris, who was the creator of

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<v Speaker 1>Morris Costumes. He was a showman himself, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>a ring master for the circus. He had his own

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<v Speaker 1>like nighttime TV special movies like Elvira pretty much, but

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<v Speaker 1>for like the entire East Coast, his name was doctor Evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was the greatest showman of Charlotte, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>But now they're saying that he's haunting that location. So

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<v Speaker 1>we I use that as an opportunity to do my

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<v Speaker 1>next fundraising event for Old Settlers Cemetery, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>one that we just cleans, but now we're raising money

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the headstones But what the crazy part is

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<v Speaker 1>is you' all believe in Bigfoot, Okay, Bluff Creek, Patterson

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Okay, So Philip Morris would tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>you're that's the one who created the suit for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I posted on Twitter when people got.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad, so that guy. People on the internet still get

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<v Speaker 1>gorilla costume and then Patterson modified it from the original case,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's the suit that they used. They did

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<v Speaker 1>not tell Morris that they were using it for Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they just needed a gorilla costume. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Patterson Gimlin film. So here we are going to the

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<v Speaker 1>building he allegedly haunts. Figured let's ask him. So like

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<v Speaker 1>the entire evening, you know, our groups, this was all

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<v Speaker 1>part of the spiel because it's a fundraiser. We wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to sell tickets and we did sell out at eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>which now seems small, but at the time it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like very big but we asked him, and then across

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<v Speaker 1>the board, whenever he was asked like are you Philip Morris,

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<v Speaker 1>he would give a detail about himself, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing pranks, he pointed he or he had this group

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<v Speaker 1>led to a specific magic trick box of like the rings,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was like his main thing. And only his

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<v Speaker 1>grandson who was there, who had not told anyone yet,

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<v Speaker 1>shared with us after he said he loved whiskey, which

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<v Speaker 1>the grandson like confirmed that was a problem he had.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then when they were asking like did you

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<v Speaker 1>do the costume for Patterson Gimlin, they had this like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an I've never seen it before. An EMF

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<v Speaker 1>jump rope pretty much is like a one of those

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<v Speaker 1>track things. So the idea is you can see kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is it over here? Is it over here? The

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing lit up for the first time when they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him like, did do you make this suit? And

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<v Speaker 1>it said yes pretty much. So long story short is,

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<v Speaker 1>we asked the guy who claimed that he made the

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot costume if he made it, and we did so

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<v Speaker 1>while raising money for sanitary preservation.

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<v Speaker 3>Double Spooky raising money to refurbish the headstones, all while

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<v Speaker 3>making us all look like as is believing in the

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<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot film and doing a paranormal investigation. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>because I always felt like that footage was the footage,

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<v Speaker 3>like that was the Bigfoot, Like if you were ever

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<v Speaker 3>gonna believe in Bigfoot, that was the video to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to I.

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<v Speaker 6>Just want to admire and thank you for putting the

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<v Speaker 6>dead to work. They're always just loafing around, and now

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<v Speaker 6>you're getting them to pay for restoration of headstones. That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, it's we We asked him, you know while

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<v Speaker 1>we were there, like, you know, are you okay with

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<v Speaker 1>us being here and across the boards? It was yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did connect with multiple There was other spirits

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<v Speaker 1>things going on as well in the building in different parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just it was a crazy night. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was on Friday the thirteenth. Like I mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Evil, like he's a big part, Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>like this big guy for spooky culture, and his roots

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<v Speaker 1>were in Charlotte, North Carolina, Like what are the chances?

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<v Speaker 1>So I did my best to teach the gospel of

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<v Speaker 1>this guy a little bit, and I hope people walked

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<v Speaker 1>away learning something as well as you know, at least

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<v Speaker 1>hope they were spooked at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a good time. I do have a

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<v Speaker 3>question for you about the headstones though, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are spending a lot of time going I would

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<v Speaker 3>imagine to go and clean them and like preserve them

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. So I have I always get

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<v Speaker 3>weird vibes when I go to a cemetery, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a really old cemetery, if I'm driving past it,

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<v Speaker 3>like in my car, i won't even look at it

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, I don't want any passengers, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want any hitchhikers. I don't know, I'm superstitious, But

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever experienced anything spending like that much time

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<v Speaker 3>around the dead bodies?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a story that I'll get into now

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a bit of a whammy as well, But

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is pretty much no. I'm not really sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, Like I'm not the type of person

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna see apparitions very clearly. I have gotten vibes before,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I can pick up on that type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, and a lot of times when I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to cemeteries, like I feel like I'm going in like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a contractor into a house that's not mine,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm I'm here on a mission, like I know

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<v Speaker 1>where my business is. I'm going to stick to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, don't bug me. I won't bug you. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my my next long winded story. Last summer, I

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<v Speaker 1>get a DM on Instagram from this guy saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a cemetery in this one of the neighborhoods called

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<v Speaker 1>Biddleville and Charlotte. I've been getting told that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>construction nearby, and in the construction piles people have seen headstones.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a cemetery nearby, So I'm like, ah, I should

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<v Speaker 1>probably look into this. I went out to the cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>It was near where I worked, checked on in every

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<v Speaker 1>everything I did. See the construction piles, there's nothing in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the like the cemetery, it's next to a

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<v Speaker 1>public park. It's gated off, and it was clear that

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<v Speaker 1>half the grass was mode half the grass was not

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<v Speaker 1>because of a huge branch had fallen, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a few years We're talking like eight foot to

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<v Speaker 1>alt bush. But there was headstones in there that you

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of see, but like completely overgrown so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, like, all I would need is a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of volunteers and I could get this cleared out.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, do I have the bandwidth for this right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people do bring stuff like this to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I kind of have a bunch of projects

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<v Speaker 1>on the back burner, so I didn't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to pursue this one. But that weekend was

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<v Speaker 1>con Carolina's, which is just like a regular you know,

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<v Speaker 1>convention more specific to Charlotte, but it's pretty popular in

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<v Speaker 1>the region and there's a paranormal track and I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the paranormal track, so I was there speaking on

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different stuff, and the guest speaker was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Brian Denhausen. No one knows him and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. He's from up north. His son is a

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<v Speaker 1>professional wrestler. He has mediumship abilities and he has his

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<v Speaker 1>own stick that he does and he's got pretty popular

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<v Speaker 1>from it. But his whole thing is that he'll do

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<v Speaker 1>readings of you while talking to you, and like it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like reading your tarot card, but he's painting

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<v Speaker 1>it for you in that moment. So I had it

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<v Speaker 1>done and it's not something that I typically do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, i'll you know, have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk to the guy that it'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So here is the picture. Oh wow, And he was

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<v Speaker 1>like what does this mean to you? And I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean that looks like Prometheus aliens

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<v Speaker 1>to me, something something like that. And he's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here is here is a picture of like you in

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<v Speaker 1>the center, like this is I'm the main guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are intertimensional beings chatting with you, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>hear them. But you have the ability you too, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hear them, so you just got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out how to talk to them. And I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. But whatever, I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>around all these tower readers, mediums. I'll bring it to

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<v Speaker 1>them to see if they can explain. And they're all

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same same type of stuff, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>you have the ability to talk to them. They're telling

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<v Speaker 1>you to do something. These white orbs are opportunities like

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And I'm like, okay, but what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally I talked to this one older lady

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<v Speaker 1>and she said the same thing, but she stressed the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of it's going to make an effect on the community.

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<v Speaker 1>And when she said that, I'm like, damn Biddleville. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's literally a sign that said Biddleville Community, like right

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<v Speaker 1>across the street from the cemetery. That's when it clicked.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just, you know, made a flyer. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>I researched the cemetery, found out it was the Biddleville community.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first post emancipation Black cemetery and Charlotte over

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty people buried there. Only about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>headstones are left, Like yeah, you can still see the

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<v Speaker 1>indentations from people, Like it's very obvious to see indentations

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<v Speaker 1>because it'll be in a clear road, but headstones nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>to be found. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna ask that real quick, just just

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<v Speaker 2>like show was there pieces of headstones? Like these things

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<v Speaker 2>fell over or are they just completely gone?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to have completely gone. But some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is scarried, some stuff is knocked over, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>these full, beautiful obelisks just like on the ground sideways,

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<v Speaker 1>so like it's an abandon cemetery. But like I have

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<v Speaker 1>found other articles where in the eighties someone founds it,

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<v Speaker 1>cleans it up, said they're going to take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then again in twenty eighteen, someone founds it, said

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to take care of it again. And now

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<v Speaker 1>here I am founds it and now I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>care of it again. Learned about the cemetery. There's all

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<v Speaker 1>these different like important people for that community, reverends, professors,

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<v Speaker 1>like just people of prominence. But anyways, I've had two

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<v Speaker 1>events now where I've had people go out and do

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<v Speaker 1>the landscaping for it, and like, we are looking good,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the first time I did it. We were

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<v Speaker 1>we'd whacking this one section and a lady came up

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<v Speaker 1>and she was a medium, and she was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just want to let you know that there's this old

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<v Speaker 1>black guy with a big, bushy white beard following you

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<v Speaker 1>around and he looks pleased. So I'm like, great, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. You know, maybe these aliens will leave me alone. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, that's like kind of spooky in and

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<v Speaker 3>of itself, right, even though you're you're not picking up

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<v Speaker 3>on it, just to have somebody walk up on you

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<v Speaker 3>and say, hey, just so you know, there's a ghost

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<v Speaker 3>on your six And he really likes what you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it up. Yeah, And like I'm an I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>anxious person to begin with, so like I had that

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic guilt of like, man, I need to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my responsibility. And now I'm like, is that guilt

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<v Speaker 1>or is it a ghost? Like now there's another layer

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<v Speaker 1>to my anxiousness.

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<v Speaker 5>And I love the respect that you take for those

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<v Speaker 5>of who have already passed on. I think sometimes not

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<v Speaker 5>enough respect is given to the dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So you out here.

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<v Speaker 5>Raising money and helping keep those headstones looking nice and

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<v Speaker 5>showing them the respect and also telling their stories. And

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<v Speaker 5>the passion for your city definitely shines through. I love

417
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<v Speaker 5>when people get passionate about their communities because there's so

418
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<v Speaker 5>much in life that we can't change, but the impact

419
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<v Speaker 5>that we make right where we're at is felt far

420
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<v Speaker 5>and wide. So I love that you're doing this for

421
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<v Speaker 5>your for your city.

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<v Speaker 1>I have I moved a lot overall, and like looking

423
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<v Speaker 1>back at the places where I was like, man, I

424
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<v Speaker 1>hated growing up in Connecticut, I'm like, I just didn't

425
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<v Speaker 1>try to like it. It's the truth. I was just

426
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<v Speaker 1>being a grumpy teen. So for wherever you are, I

427
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<v Speaker 1>strongly recommend reading the history signs fine to some way

428
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<v Speaker 1>to get like, you know, do something hyper niche in

429
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<v Speaker 1>your community, and your community will get bigger.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's awesome because if you you could have had

431
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:16.759
<v Speaker 3>the reverse thing happened to you, and you could have

432
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<v Speaker 3>got poltergeisted with the way that the cemetery was being

433
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<v Speaker 3>treated and have some kind of portal open up in

434
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<v Speaker 3>your backyard. But I mean, I just wanted to throw

435
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<v Speaker 3>this out there because it goes along to your point.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I grew up, Well, I've lived a lot of places,

437
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<v Speaker 3>but I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, and there is

438
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<v Speaker 3>a very famous cemetery there. It's called Lake View Cemetery.

439
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<v Speaker 3>There's been presidents buried there. All the Rockefellers are buried there.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Elliott Ness a lot of people are familiar with him.

441
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<v Speaker 3>He's buried there and right right, yeah, yeah, Elliott. And

442
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.920
<v Speaker 3>that's this kind of like a famous detective kind of guy.

443
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 3>And so you can go anytime they close it at

444
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 3>night so people don't get weird and like go leave

445
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 3>burning cruixes and stuff like that. But anytime during the

446
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 3>day you can go and visit it. And it's actually

447
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<v Speaker 3>really cool and of all places in the world for

448
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<v Speaker 3>the Rockefellers to want to be buried.

449
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<v Speaker 1>It's like not even a nice side of Cleveland, you know.

450
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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, uh, you better go with a

451
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:35.359
<v Speaker 3>friend and during the day and maybe I don't know, yeah,

452
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<v Speaker 3>but it is like you were saying, though, if you look,

453
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 3>there are some really cool, niche little things like wherever

454
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<v Speaker 3>you live, even if it's like the crackheaded side of Cleveland,

455
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 3>you will find something cool there. In President Garfields, he

456
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<v Speaker 3>has like this big memorial built in that cemetery and

457
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<v Speaker 3>it's like three floors and when you get to the

458
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<v Speaker 3>top you can see all of Cleveland. It's it's actually

459
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<v Speaker 3>kind of amazing. But cemeteries have always fascinated me. I

460
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 3>do think you can get haunted though, if you fuck

461
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<v Speaker 3>around and find out if you know what I'm saying.

462
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<v Speaker 6>Well, a little aspect to that, so, you know, being

463
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<v Speaker 6>a Hellenist, I look at people in terms of like

464
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<v Speaker 6>archetypes and how they relate to the gods. And you

465
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<v Speaker 6>definitely have archetypes like different story characters and you know

466
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<v Speaker 6>kind of the similarities between them, right, and you have

467
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<v Speaker 6>a real Hades type energy and a lot of people

468
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<v Speaker 6>don't realize it, but the Hades energy archetype is still

469
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<v Speaker 6>highly respected and revered in our society. If you think

470
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<v Speaker 6>about funeral home directors, they're usually adults. They're usually I mean,

471
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<v Speaker 6>they're males, and they have that fatherly energy in one

472
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<v Speaker 6>of the most destructive transition points, you know, and really

473
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<v Speaker 6>having that ability to be calm in the storm. That's

474
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 6>that's big because you know, even Polta guys say, no,

475
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 6>I can't mess with that. You know, having the ability

476
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<v Speaker 6>to to to be above the fray and on the

477
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<v Speaker 6>outside is something that they really do respect.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Hell, yeah, you want to what I wanted to be

479
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 3>when I grew up. I wanted to be a funeral director.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that weird? I wanted to be an embalmer. I

481
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<v Speaker 3>wanted to cut open dead bodies.

482
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<v Speaker 1>I hate the idea of embalming really, Oh god, people,

483
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>but like the no, that ain't right. There's something very

484
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<v Speaker 1>deeply wrong about that process.

485
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<v Speaker 6>When I was when I was stationed in Virginia, I

486
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 6>I got to do a bunch of military honors for

487
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 6>funerals and it's just, you know, it feels like you're

488
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 6>you're really honoring that person as you're performing the duties

489
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<v Speaker 6>at the funeral. But you know, it's it's it's something

490
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 6>that's seeing from the outside, you can actually add a

491
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 6>lot just by your presence. It's it's kind of an

492
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 6>interesting thing.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Headless. I was not nearly as honorable as you'd think

494
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 3>in my quest to become a mortician. I thought it

495
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 3>was I thought it was creepy, and like, I'm obsessed

496
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>with Halloween and I was. I was just wanting to

497
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 3>be the creepiest thing I could imagine. And what's creepier

498
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<v Speaker 3>than like embalming dead people? But I'm too much of

499
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 3>a puss to be left alone in a funeral home

500
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<v Speaker 3>by myself. I would have needed a team of advisors

501
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to stay with me in case when of them bitches

502
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 3>came up out of the grave or some shit like that.

503
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<v Speaker 2>And was.

504
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<v Speaker 6>They like to hire female morticians, right?

505
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I knew.

506
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I knew one actually because you know what I knew

507
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 3>one is creepy.

508
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>No, she was actually kind of When I found out

509
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that that's what she did, I was like, she was hot,

510
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't she No, No, she wasn't actually, but no, she

511
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was like kind of normal. And I was just like, wait,

512
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>what that's like? Wow, I never would have thought that's

513
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>what you did. Yeah, not that there's anything wrong with it.

514
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, Wow, I just never would have guessed.

515
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you do that right.

516
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I do want to visit Charlotte at some point. I

517
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 3>had a friend that lived there and she said it

518
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 3>was one of the prettiest places she ever lived.

519
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Good. That's a great thing to say about it.

520
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I had a quod question for you, go for it.

521
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 5>So when Julia was talking about having hitchhikers and things

522
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 5>like that happen. I've done some investigations in this graveyards.

523
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 4>And we've picked up on a vibe.

524
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I've been with other people who are more sensitive than

525
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>I am, who have experienced some things, and we've set

526
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 5>some protection prayers and things like that upon us leaving,

527
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 5>just to make sure that we're safe, we're good, and

528
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 5>that if anything did want to maybe come back with us,

529
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 5>that it stayed there. Obviously, you're setting a good intention

530
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 5>when you go in. You're not going in and desecrating

531
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.160
<v Speaker 5>the graves. You're doing quite the opposite, and you're in

532
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 5>respect to these people. Do you do any other kind

533
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 5>of spiritual protection for yourself? Do you carry any sort

534
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 5>of crystals or say any sort of prayers or anything.

535
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Like that, just less. Yeah, so the answer is no,

536
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>But I talk Dear Devil the entire time I am.

537
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>There in case anybody's listening.

538
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, like I said, like, I'm going in with

539
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the best intentions, So I don't do any like specific prayers,

540
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>but I'll say hello and goodbye.

541
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Well. I also think like spirits in a sense, just

542
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 2>like cats and dogs. I think they can tell like

543
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're a piece of shit or not when you're around.

544
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 1>I like to think so too. So that is what

545
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll say about that. I have looked into it, but

546
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that type of person who who does a

547
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of that. Anyways, I respect it and I find

548
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it very interesting and like I do think there's that

549
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 1>power of intention will work one way or the other.

550
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 1>But I haven't found my thing yet.

551
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, when you were doing besides the guy? Oh sorry,

552
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and.

553
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Nick, just real real quick question. Uh. And I guess

554
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe from like whatever, Like I guess however, you look

555
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>at things and see it was there any things that

556
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>you cleaned up and you notice like tombstones with like

557
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a cult symbolism on it, or or like secret society

558
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>like freemason stuff on it. I don't even know if

559
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 2>you'd know if you were looking at it, if that

560
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>was it. I'm just gonna be honest, you may not

561
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>even know what.

562
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't found anything like you written or weird like that.

563
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>But in one cemetery I found rooms made out and

564
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 1>flowers clear is so like whenever the wind blew, they

565
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 1>were gonna be gone. So I just I was there

566
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>at the right time. I guess that was interesting. One

567
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of the groundskeepers for the cemetery that I'm really involved with,

568
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 1>he's told me about having to clean up a lot

569
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of chicken remains, Like chicken sacrifices are still huge, believe

570
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 1>it or not. Then there was this one one October

571
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>when an entire altar was set up in one of

572
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>our city cemeteries. We're talking like lamps and mirrors, and

573
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 1>there were shells and a miniature like pin up doll

574
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 1>type thing with a bunch of stuff pinned into it.

575
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 2>It was I guarantee you those mirrors were there to

576
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>mind fuck some of the people that were there to

577
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>actually believe something was going on that wasn't.

578
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah something.

579
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I post a picture of it every now and then,

580
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and I always just got vastly different interpretations of it,

581
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 1>so I don't have a nail down reason.

582
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting if you ever come across that. I look

583
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 2>for a mercury and batteries. There was another culprits for

584
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 2>people being shady and pulling off tricks that aren't real.

585
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, it sounds cheesy, but yeah, mercury

586
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 2>batteries and uh in magnets. You'd be surprised. I'm mer

587
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I could put a magnet magnet on my wrist with

588
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 2>a battery on the tip of it and hold the

589
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 2>bottle cap in my hand. It will float. You guys

590
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>will think I'm doing something. You gotta watch out for.

591
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 6>Charlatan's My favorite is the Pepper's Ghost illusion, where you

592
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 6>got the slanted glass inside of the container and then

593
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 6>when you're looking at it, it looks like there's a

594
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 6>hologram or some sort of hologram inside the space. So

595
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 6>this is what they always refer to on you know,

596
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 6>Scooby doing stuff where they've got the image shown through

597
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 6>the mirror and then it's refracted through the thing. But

598
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 6>the Pepper's Ghost illusion, if you catch somebody with one

599
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 6>of those in the graveyard, you better get your camera out.

600
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 1>So let me hit you with Charlotte specific a ghost story,

601
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a true crime story that encryptid.

602
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

603
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Nice, I'm gonna blow through these for you. So you

604
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>said you wanted to visit Charlotte. To do so, you

605
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>would have to stay at a hotel. Luckily, we have

606
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a haunted one right on Shrion Street, which is like

607
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the street that goes straight through uptown. It was built

608
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in the late nineteen twenties, opens in the early nineteen

609
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>thirties as like a condo building. It's called the Dunhill

610
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Hotel today, but back then it was called Mayfair Manor

611
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and it had a bad reputation because it opens during

612
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the Great Depression. The top floors were the hotels while

613
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the condos. And Charlotte is a banking city,

614
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>so during the Great Depression, people would loose their last

615
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.079
<v Speaker 1>dollar and then spend their last time on a hotel

616
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>room and then jump. And it happened a number of times,

617
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and that has stayed with the hotel where it's a

618
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>common ghost story where people will be in their room

619
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and they'll see through the window a shadow fall to

620
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the point where the staff at the hotel can't expect

621
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>these calls and know how to walk a guests through it.

622
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 1>If you were to go to the Dunhill today, they

623
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<v Speaker 1>would tell you a number of different ghost stories. There

624
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<v Speaker 1>is a woman in white who walks through the banquet

625
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>holes who will disappear. When my friends investigated in the

626
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 1>banquet hall, they actually hurt someone. Say hello on a

627
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Facebook live video during a typical both poltergeist activity that

628
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you'd find out a hotel, you know, people saying, doors

629
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 1>slam behind them, lights flickering on and off. But the

630
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>hotel always told the story of a ghost name Dusty,

631
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and they believed that Dusty was the spirit attached to

632
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a skeleton they found in the basement during their renovation

633
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. So back in the eighties, the hotel

634
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>is shifting hands. It was abandoned for ten years. When

635
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they were doing the renovations, they found that someone had

636
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>decomposed at the bottom of the elevator shaft. And then

637
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to this day, when things were happening, they would say, oh,

638
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 1>that's Dusty the elevator ghost. What's crazy, though, is you

639
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>know that story has been told for decades. Back in

640
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the summer of twenty twenty three, there was a police

641
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>report that went out that the Charlotte Mecklenberg Police Department

642
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>was reopening cold cases because they got access to this

643
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 1>whole different new database of DNA and they were running

644
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 1>all these cold cases versus DNA. Well, they had Dusty

645
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>the Dunhill ghosts bones. They ran it through this new

646
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>DNA and they got a hit from Morrisville, which is

647
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 1>a town like two towns over thirty minutes away, and

648
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>we found out that the skeleton at the bottom of

649
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the elevator shaft was in fact his name was Odell Mundy.

650
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>People called him Doc. He was a World War Two

651
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>vet and even though he worked at a belk in

652
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>uptown Charlotte, he was homeless and he would sleep in

653
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the Dunhill between his shifts and I don't know how

654
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 1>he got in the elevator shaft or what happened, and

655
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>forensics didn't really say there was a cause of death.

656
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>That is where he died. And his family who was

657
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 1>still around in Morrisville, they finally got some clothes sure

658
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 1>about their family member who disappeared back in the eighties.

659
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>He was in the elevator shaft.

660
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>At the bottom of the elevator.

661
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Shaft, maybe the elevator fell on his ass, crushed in

662
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 3>the bones.

663
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Weren't that crushed?

664
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Still, that's crazy.

665
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Just died from starvation or whatever.

666
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Either way, I'm taking the stairs.

667
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Part of the part of the renovations that they did

668
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 1>change the stairwells. Now the stairs are where the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>shaft was.

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<v Speaker 5>Long as I'm not stuck in the elevator, I'm okay

671
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.159
<v Speaker 5>with that. I could deal with the ghost on the stairs.

672
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 5>But if I'm stuck in the elevator with a ghost,

673
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm so out.

674
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 3>And Brooke, he was homeless, so you know, even homeless

675
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 3>ghosts they stink you're gonna get all type of homeless

676
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>booty hole up in that elevator and just stanking. But

677
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 3>that is so crazy because it like you tested DNA

678
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 3>and it was a real person. It wasn't Dusty, but

679
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 3>it was doc which is closed right yeah yeah o.

680
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>D yeah, So Dunhill. There's podcasts about it you can

681
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>listen to, or you know, visit yourself and the staff

682
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 1>will tell you their own experience.

683
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Is there any of that? To get off of the

684
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.079
<v Speaker 2>topic of a hotel, because I know you said, you know,

685
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna go to Chelte, you're gonna need a hotel.

686
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Is there any known airbnbs that don't want it out there? Man,

687
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I put you up.

688
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 1>There. So there's an apartment complex. It was called Tryon House,

689
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and I know at one point that there were airbnbs

690
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 1>ran out of it, but by no means is it

691
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a destination spot. The apartment itself is from the nineteen forties,

692
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and there was this big fire that same year and

693
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people did die. And like the lore was,

694
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're sleeping there, some people would have like dreams

695
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of like blood coming from the wall, or like they

696
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 1>would hear thumping on the other side. There was a

697
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>story of like a woman who would come up and

698
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 1>pray next to your bed. Try On House Apartments. They've

699
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>changed the name. I'm wondering if it's because I was

700
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>telling the story too much, Like like I was on

701
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the news talking about this apartment building that was actively leasing.

702
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So good on then.

703
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 6>It's so strange out ghost ghost tourism simultaneously increases property

704
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 6>values in some locations and decreases them in other locations.

705
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can't remember.

706
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the place. The place I stayed at

707
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>but uh Brookenlle and so as headless. You both know

708
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Ron New England. When I went to go out by

709
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>him to do like I guess our little ghost thing

710
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>that it was fun, but we got nothing U When

711
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I went to his house, I stayed out at Airbnb.

712
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the name of him, Like, I didn't

713
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>even realize. I just booked the place and I told

714
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Ron and he's like, you know that place is known

715
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to be haunted, right, It was like, get the fuck Addy,

716
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 2>And I looked it up and I was like, Yo,

717
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 2>what's the odds of that?

718
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

719
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was thinking about setting up my equipment. I

720
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, maybe I'll get more something to get something

721
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>out of here. I didn't have a rounds, but you know, yeah,

722
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it was a really nice place though. It was pretty

723
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>cool as shit.

724
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, so have my true crime story as well.

725
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course we're a big city, so of course we

726
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have a notorious serial killer. I don't want to do

727
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>hold too much onto it because I feel like you

728
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to go into the weeds when you're

729
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 1>telling these stories to make sure you're being respectful. But

730
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he was known as the Charlotte Stranger. Strangler, but also

731
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 1>known as the Taco Bell Strangler. The reason for that

732
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>is because he was working at fast food joints and

733
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 1>he would like go home with his female coworkers and

734
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 1>that's when he would did it. And he did in

735
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the means all black women. And it took police forever

736
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to admit that there was something going on because it

737
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was all apartment complex is very close to each other

738
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and they all were kind of connected. But he worked

739
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 1>at bo Jangles and he worked at.

740
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's Jangles of the Black for me. H, I

741
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 2>love bo Jangles.

742
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny.

743
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 6>Our buddy j J had a run in with a

744
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.440
<v Speaker 6>serial killer at a Hearty's.

745
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Another brand.

746
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 6>H yeah, yeah, yeah, human Burgers.

747
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know, Yeah, nothing like that. There have been

748
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>documentaries about him called like one was called Bad Henry

749
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I think once on Netflix now but you know, sad story.

750
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't know. These were women that he worked with. Yeah,

751
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and he was like not sorry, sorry to start asking.

752
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>He just got me interested on how he was even

753
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 2>pulling this off. You said into the teens, you know,

754
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>like how he was learning, Like I'm just you know,

755
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>just keeping a real was this guy? So I'm like

756
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>just done. You know, whatever he's pulling, he's pulling bitches

757
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 2>back to his house that easily. I mean, what's going

758
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>on here?

759
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it was more of like how they felt

760
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 1>bad for him, and he was like the pushy coworker, like, oh,

761
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 1>let's hang.

762
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Out after what I'm just wondering, like just getting all.

763
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 3>These cheesy Gordia crunch in some cinnamon twists. He would

764
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 3>have it, I would have to cause a rita, yes.

765
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But he is still alive in a prison in Raleigh,

766
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. So he's still out there. And that's something

767
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I like to remember when I posture I don't piss

768
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>any active serial killers off.

769
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.679
<v Speaker 2>And you said you said a lot of them are coming, Yeah,

770
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll go on.

771
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Well sorry what you're saying, Well.

772
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 2>You said a lot of them were also coming from

773
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the same area as well, the same apartment complexes.

774
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Too, right, yeah, same, like same neighborhood.

775
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, look at that. Actually all right, thank you peace.

776
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>But then a Charlotte cryptid story. So in Charlotte, right

777
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts, there's Lake Norman technically Morrisville, but it's

778
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the largest man made lake in North Carolina. And I

779
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if y'all know this, but pretty much every

780
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>lake we have in America is man made, all for

781
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 1>the dams. That's why they do it, so they can

782
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 1>get their power. But Lake Norman is the largest in

783
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, and since its creation in the nineteen sixties,

784
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>there have been sightings of a lake monster. Of course,

785
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I am if he on the idea of lake monsters.

786
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's probably a lot of huge things

787
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in there, but I think it's all things that are normal,

788
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Like if you've seen gar terrifying, yeah they have. They

789
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>were dinosaurs. They get up to six feet, and catfish

790
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>can be freaking huge. But it brings up a lot

791
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of reasons why there could be ENCRYPTID is number one.

792
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 1>There is a nuclear power pant attached to the lake

793
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 1>that uses the water to cool honest reactors. If you

794
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>go on that reactors like website and you go through

795
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 1>a labyrinth, you can finally find the reports that they're

796
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>legally required to share. And there are leaks all the time,

797
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and there are like sewage leaks into

798
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the lake to the point where like there are these

799
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>massive like announcements don't go in the water. And from

800
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>this date to this date, and then of course it

801
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 1>clears up for the fourth of July, and then of

802
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 1>course it comes back right after the fourth of July.

803
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And then also you know, like naturally blocking a giant river,

804
00:44:56.039 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>the Cataba, there's gotta be some type of now consequences

805
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for that. I mean, we're messing with the way the

806
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>world works. So whenever the lake and Roman monsters discuss,

807
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 1>these are like kind of the fears that are attached

808
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 1>with the lore and why people think that that's why

809
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we have a lake monster. Now I won't dwell on

810
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 1>that too much because you know, everyone has their lake monsters,

811
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>but that's ours. But another cryptid we possibly have. And

812
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 1>this is just one of those wacky happenstances where I

813
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 1>went to a live podcast recording at a deli, the

814
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 1>fun types of events you'll find in Charlotte. And in

815
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that live podcast recording at a Delhi, the lady host

816
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was asking questions to the crowd because it was kind

817
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 1>of like a game show and she had two different

818
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>guests that day, and each guest they would she would

819
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>ask them like, have you ever experienced anything weird the

820
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>unexpected that you couldn't explain. The two guests they did

821
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>not know each other. One was speaking like forty five

822
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 1>minutes after the other, but they both answered the same way,

823
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 1>saying the first guy said he was in the Starmonnt

824
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 1>neighbor of South Or area of South Ends, which is

825
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a neighborhood in Charlotte, and he was driving down a

826
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>road and he saw a cat walking into the middle

827
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of the street, and when the cat wouldn't move out

828
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>of their way, they were honking at it. They tried

829
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 1>to like skirt up to scare it, and when they

830
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:26.559
<v Speaker 1>did that, it sprouted wings and started attacking them and

831
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:31.079
<v Speaker 1>looked more like an owl. That happened, and he's like,

832
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I still can't explain it to the day. Yes, we

833
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 1>were smoking, but like we understand reality, and they just

834
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>couldn't explain it. Then forty five minutes the next guest

835
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is talking, did not know the first person, and he's like, yeah,

836
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I haven't thought about it in years, but that guy

837
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>reminded me. When I was walking down the Metropolitan area

838
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of town there was an active construction site. It was

839
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night, and I was walking by

840
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a fence and I saw an owl on it, just

841
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>creeping on it into the whole like you know, neck

842
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 1>is going to follow you the whole one eighty And

843
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 1>as he got further past it, it went down on

844
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 1>all fours and started walking along the fence with him

845
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>with his tail sprout it up, so it went from

846
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like full bird to full cat. And he was like,

847
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I've never been able to explain it. So I had

848
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>just happened to be in the room when two people

849
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>were talking about a cat owl hybrid and Charlotte and

850
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about it and I post about it

851
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and I try to get people to tell me if

852
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they have seen it. On TikTok, a few people said

853
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:38.559
<v Speaker 1>that they've heard Appalachian lore about it, but on Instagram nothing,

854
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>so I may So I've just been calling it to

855
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte cat owl, and I like that name cat.

856
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Cat owl, pat owl, bird puss.

857
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess in like Dungeons and Dragons or something, there's

858
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>something like something called like the me owl. Yeah, yeah,

859
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 1>there you go. I want to be taking in the

860
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>crypti community.

861
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so yeah, I guess you're not going to use that.

862
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, foco pops that they make of it will

863
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 1>be called.

864
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 6>The owl or the Charlotte Hoots.

865
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>The Charlotte Hoots Charlotte Cowl.

866
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And then at least that explains exactly what you're talking about,

867
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. At least the name. You

868
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 2>know what you're being told about the category.

869
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's from Charlotte. You know, I gotta get it

870
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to stick. It's all about the branding, you know.

871
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, one thing about me is I'm big into cryptids,

872
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 5>big into bigfoot. I do research here in Florida, and

873
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 5>I go other places and research as well, And of

874
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 5>course with the territory comes other cryptids.

875
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 4>And that's the first time I've heard.

876
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Of anything like that.

877
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 5>When you were talking about the Lake Monster, it did

878
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 5>remind me of a couple of things. One the Lake

879
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 5>and the Simpsons that has like the three eyed fish.

880
00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It kind of running me of that.

881
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 4>And also you do hear a correlation.

882
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 5>In Washington. It's called the klick a cat ape cat

883
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm probably saying that wrong, but it's outside of a

884
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 5>nuclear facility that's up there, and it's been reported by

885
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 5>the locals as something that has a product of the

886
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 5>nuclear waste in the water ways up there. So I

887
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 5>have heard stories of those two things coexisting. But I'm

888
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 5>going to have to look into this owl cat thing

889
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 5>that's really intriguing to me.

890
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 4>I want to see if I can find anything on it.

891
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Please do I being completely honest, Like when it comes

892
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to cryptids, I think of them. I look at them

893
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>more through the lens of like folklore. For most of them,

894
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 1>like Bigfoot, I understand a lot of it, and I

895
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>think there's aspects that we don't understand. But like the

896
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>other ones like Mothman, like wampus, catchy, but copper, those

897
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>are modern day folklore. Those are no longer cryptids. No

898
00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 1>one is thinking that that's a specific species there. You know,

899
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about them like they're superheroes almost.

900
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 6>Well nature spirits.

901
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>That's part of the conversation. So I'm saying, like, the

902
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>way that we talk about them shows more about us

903
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 1>than about them, and I think it really reflects on

904
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 1>like what our fears are so like the new like

905
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 1>being affected by the nuclear power plant is a real thing,

906
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and we talk about it, but by way of saying like, yeah,

907
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>if a fish is too affect it, it's going to

908
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>turn into a monster, while also being like, yeah, of

909
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>course I will swim in like Norman when I'm six

910
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 1>beers deep on the fourth of July, Like, you know,

911
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the same with like, yeah, that's my spiel is like

912
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the cryptids, it comes from a place of like you're

913
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 1>going to learn about that society who's coming up with

914
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 1>these legends.

915
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think even nature spirits are intensely influenced by

916
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 6>the type of people around them, too, so that it's

917
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 6>only a certain type of person that usually interacts with

918
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.800
<v Speaker 6>these things, and they usually have multiple experiences. Not necessarily

919
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 6>downplaying their experiences, but it seems like they're attracted to

920
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 6>certain types of people. I mean, you see this with

921
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 6>the bigfoot phenomena all the time. They're sort of, you know,

922
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 6>drawn to I don't know, there might be a classification

923
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 6>for that if people actually studied this seriously. But I

924
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:27.760
<v Speaker 6>think actually headless.

925
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you because my brother's one of those people.

926
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Like if there's a UFO within five miles, that asshole

927
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 3>sees it every single time. I've never met a person

928
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 3>who has had more UFO encounters than my brother, and

929
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I have seen maybe one suspicious thing in the sky,

930
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 3>but nothing like it's like these. There are certain people

931
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 3>that just weird shit happens to them all the time,

932
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 3>and it's easy for people to say well, yeah.

933
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 1>It happened to him. Whoo, he's fucking crazy.

934
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>But like I do, I think you're right. There's like

935
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 3>some people are more sensitive to seeing ghosts and some

936
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 3>people are more I would love to see because it

937
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 3>reminds me of The Fourth Kind.

938
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

939
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 3>They talk about the owl turning into something and it

940
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 3>ended up being extraterrestrial in nature. But I would be

941
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 3>interested to see something like that for myself. I think

942
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 3>it's curious.

943
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh was the owl and not in the Fourth Kind?

944
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Was?

945
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know Whitney Striver's thing, Yeah, what was that.

946
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 4>In the It's all throughout UFO alien lore.

947
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I could be getting confused, but I think

948
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>it might have been that Whitley Streamer movie as well.

949
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the fuck that's true it was yeh yeah.

950
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 6>Got the phenomena of owls being associated with bigfoots as well.

951
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 6>There's like that that's sort of like crossover between bigfoot

952
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 6>and aliens. Is this owl kind of image that usually

953
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 6>it's larger than average and it's got really creepy eyes,

954
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 6>but you know, it's slightly different from a normal owl.

955
00:52:58.280 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 4>But never turning into a cat.

956
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 3>So that's what makes this so interesting right, I've never

957
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 3>heard that before.

958
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've definitely got to have to trademark

959
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that one exactly right.

960
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 1>See, here's the thing.

961
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 6>Nature spirits know who's who's been smoking, they know who's

962
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 6>been taking LSD, and they know who they can get

963
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 6>away with popping up in front of.

964
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You.

965
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Think, so that just sometimes they just troll people at

966
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>a stone with somebody. Oh, I know, if I you,

967
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>probably I would.

968
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I tend to think that those types of

969
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 5>things do help, when taken in the appropriate amounts, help

970
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 5>people connect with nature better. I personally believe that, you know,

971
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 5>what heightens some of your senses. You were to go

972
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 5>take a microdose and maybe go out in the forest

973
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:49.639
<v Speaker 5>or something, I think you might feel a little bit

974
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 5>more you know, connected spiritualated things. So I could totally

975
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 5>see that it enhancing that experience.

976
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

977
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.400
<v Speaker 3>There is also a lake monster where I grew up,

978
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 3>called Bessie to Lake Erie, which is one of the

979
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Great Lakes. It wasn't like created or anything, So I

980
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>tend to think maybe sometimes people see shit Besides dead

981
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 3>bodies in Lake Erie, there is a lot of stuff

982
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 3>that pops up that's weird that's coming out of Lake erie.

983
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 3>So there could be. I mean everybody, it's like you said,

984
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 3>everybody's got their lake monster or whatever.

985
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:28.320
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I don't know.

986
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I tend to like to do like paranormal investigations and stuff.

987
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how you would go about do

988
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 3>an investigation to see if there was a lake monster.

989
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you'd need like equipment from the Discovery

990
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Channel or something like that to even prove that that

991
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 3>was a thing.

992
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the goal. That's the goal is to get a

993
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>real expedition our boy Josh to come to Lake Norman.

994
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I know you're talking about it nice. That'd

995
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 2>be wild. Yeah.

996
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Man, if you can find something, then then I'm a

997
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:04.119
<v Speaker 1>true believer.

998
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 6>I think there is something to the idea that genus loci.

999
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 6>That's what the Romans called it. It was the spirit

1000
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 6>of a place, you know, and that spirit of a

1001
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 6>place comes through and the images that you sort of

1002
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 6>see in front of you.

1003
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's got Well, here, let me hit you with

1004
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.679
<v Speaker 1>something spooky that will probably I feel like you'll think

1005
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.199
<v Speaker 1>it's a connection with that, but this will also close

1006
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 1>us close us out. But North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina,

1007
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that area Mecklenberg County is the site of the first

1008
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>gold rush before California, and it happened because the teenager's

1009
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 1>name with Conrad Reid was bow hunting in a river

1010
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 1>behind his house and he found a fourteen pound nugget

1011
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of gold and he didn't know what it was that

1012
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 1>his family used it as a doorstop for three years

1013
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:51.599
<v Speaker 1>before finally they were like, you know, it's shiny, we

1014
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>need money. Let's go over to Fayetteville see if we

1015
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 1>can sell it. And after being swindled and then bringing

1016
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.159
<v Speaker 1>guns and their money, they got like thousands of dollars

1017
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>for this gold nugget, and that kicked off this giant

1018
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:08.199
<v Speaker 1>gold rush in North Carolina is specifically the Charlotte area,

1019
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and in Mecklinberg County there were seventy five active mines

1020
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that are now abandoned underneath city limits. So we're sitting

1021
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>on top of Swiss cheese. But also that gold community

1022
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was the reason why we had the mint moved to

1023
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte during the Civil War because we were printing money

1024
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for the bad guys. And then now we are literally

1025
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 1>like the second Wall Street in the United States right

1026
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.599
<v Speaker 1>underneath New York. Like if nine to eleven happens and

1027
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Wall Street shuts down in New York. They're coming to Charlotte.

1028
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>We have Bank of America, we have Wells Fargo for

1029
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 1>just these huge power powerhouses of banks. And so it's

1030
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of said that because of our history of gold,

1031
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>there is a like spirit of greed in Charlotte that

1032
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:12.079
<v Speaker 1>has that's like the spirit of the place. Like what

1033
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, I don't feel that.

1034
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 6>But it's so agre is below a zeitgeist. The zeitgeist

1035
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:25.320
<v Speaker 6>would be like a spirit of an age, and then

1036
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 6>an is kind of like a thought form that's created

1037
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 6>by different groups of people.

1038
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.159
<v Speaker 2>This podcast, that.

1039
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 6>Idea that there could be this Judas Loki agrigor of greed,

1040
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I can totally buy into that.

1041
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 3>A lot, by the way, right, but the.

1042
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 6>First thing they did with this chunk of gold is

1043
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 6>trying to swindle them. That leaves the mark.

1044
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they brought it. They brought it to Fayetville and

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<v Speaker 1>they were given fourteen dollars for it, and instantly and

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<v Speaker 1>instantly the guy was like no, no, no, go back

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<v Speaker 1>in there with a gun and demands more. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he walked out with like thousands. So history would have

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<v Speaker 1>been very different.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that kind of goes into our buddy Mike Wand's

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<v Speaker 6>theory is that the first stories of a place about

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<v Speaker 6>certain stuff generally have an impact on the rest of

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<v Speaker 6>how how that place is seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>When you add that folklore as an aspect to culture,

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<v Speaker 6>you end up finding that it influences a lot more

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<v Speaker 6>than just the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, i'll hit you. I'll hit you with one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing that I'll hold on to. But when the

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<v Speaker 1>British came into town during the Revolutionary War, they there

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00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 1>was the Battle of Charlotte. They went into uptown and

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone, the militia fought back, survived three volleys even

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<v Speaker 1>with like the minimal people. But then when they took

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<v Speaker 1>over Charlotte, everyone in town was so hostile to them,

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<v Speaker 1>like constantly just bombarding them with ship, not being like

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<v Speaker 1>cooperative during any of you know, they're trying to set

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<v Speaker 1>up camp where corn Wallace, which if you saw the Patriot,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like the main head honcho of the civil

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<v Speaker 1>ar of the Revolutionary War, but he called Charlotte a

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<v Speaker 1>hornet's nest of rebellion because he was ready to get

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<v Speaker 1>out because he was pissed off. How unwelcome. He was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we have the Charlotte Hornets basketball team. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also we are no strangers to rioting, so that

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of rebellion has stuck with us. So I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>that over the greed one any day.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's the perfect dichotomy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, that's all you need to know about

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Spooking. Make sure to make sure to follow the

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<v Speaker 1>page Spooky Colt. If you haven't our, that's awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll try to teach about history like if even if

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01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you're if you don't like Charlotte, Like, if you keep

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01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 1>up with my posts, you're gonna know a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>ship and it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's definitely interesting. Like I said, you had you

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01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 2>do have a lot of like even the history, there

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01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:22.159
<v Speaker 2>was things that I didn't know about wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just need to have someone super passionate about

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<v Speaker 1>making it sound interesting. And the cheat code is making

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<v Speaker 1>it a ghost story.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that always helps. I agree real quick before we

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it up, what like, I know you said before

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01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 2>you want to get you know, expedition out there. But

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01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:45.679
<v Speaker 2>what all like some of your goals are going forward?

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01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 2>You have, like anythings that you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or want to write a book, for sure. I just

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<v Speaker 1>supplied this afternoon to be on the Historic Landmarks Commission.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to get more work involved with local government.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already the board of I'm on the board of

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<v Speaker 1>the cemetery that I'm always helping out at. So just

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01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to get more involved, get more people involved. Lately,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been seeing more accounts that are Charlotte based,

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<v Speaker 1>doing videos about Charlotte history and ghost stories, and I'm like, great,

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01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:25.280
<v Speaker 1>this will make my work easy for me. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to as my whole thing is as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I have having fun, I'm going to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still having fun, and I have fundraising goals for

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01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 1>certain things. My October is already booked up for events

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01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 1>with what I can handle, so I'm keep them busy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the goal is to always be just be

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<v Speaker 1>having fun while I'm doing this, because once it's not

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01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.559
<v Speaker 1>fun anymore, I'm not gonna not gonna want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, No, I totally know what you mean, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally know what you mean. That's awesome. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as it stays fun. I think you're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>doing like your willingness. Yea, real quick, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to remind everybody where they can find your stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Out again spookyclt dot com or as spooky clt on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram And I have been on a number of podcast

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<v Speaker 1>episodes and I try to tell different stuff, but sometimes

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01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 1>it gets hard. If you just look on Spotify for

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01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 1>spooky clt, you'll find interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, awesome, and then real quick, let just let everybody

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<v Speaker 2>plug their stuff as well, Julia, real quick, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to remind everybody where they can find your amazing work. Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me Nick, Yeah, this was a really

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01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 3>interesting one. I love all the creepy spooky stuff Cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>Beach podcasts wherever you listen to podcasts, and yeah, thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for having me of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, no, thank you for coming on and broke from

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01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Dark Florida. Please let everybody know where they can find

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<v Speaker 2>your amazing stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Dark Florida

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01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.239
<v Speaker 5>podcast And this was an absolute pleasure. Thanks for having

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<v Speaker 5>me on, and I got to learn so much and

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait to look into more of what we

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<v Speaker 5>talked about. And keep doing what you're doing. I highly

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<v Speaker 5>respect the work that you're doing up there and how

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<v Speaker 5>you're honoring the dead and people who have passed on.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on, Brooke. I

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01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.039
<v Speaker 2>always appreciate when you can make it real.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course and less join sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, Spooky. I love the work you're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Historical preservation in a town that's you know, bank or

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<v Speaker 6>focused is one of the more important things you could

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<v Speaker 6>be doing because it's only so long until they get

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01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 6>hungry for a new spot to set up shops. It's

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01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 6>really easy to keep you are not kidding, easy to

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<v Speaker 6>keep history preserved out here in places like Black River Falls.

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<v Speaker 6>We're known for the Wisconsin Death Trip. Have you ever

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01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:59.800
<v Speaker 6>heard of that? But uh static X album. He called

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01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 6>his album Wiscod's the Death Trip because his friend had

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01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 6>a book on the table that was documenting the troubles

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<v Speaker 6>and around the nineteen tens, and so it was a

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<v Speaker 6>book all about these people who were starving to out

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<v Speaker 6>and shooting each other in the face because there was

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<v Speaker 6>no more logging industry. It was horrible. It's kind of

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01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:18.320
<v Speaker 6>stayed that way ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems like a good reason to shoot someone in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>No more logs seems just yeah, but thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>He liss yo, you want to remind everybody about your

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday show one more time?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely yeah. You can message. You can email me your

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<v Speaker 6>spooky stories and we'll analyze them on the show on

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<v Speaker 6>Thursday nights. You can email me at Headless Giant Podcast

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<v Speaker 6>at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, awesome, Thank you so much, Hellis, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much, Broking, thank you so much. Julia and Jason

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<v Speaker 2>from Spooky CLT. Thank you so much for coming on. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it. That was an awesome time for me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and please, uh the listeners go check out his stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>His links are in the bottom and his Instagram tag.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the end of another Recult Rejects and

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<v Speaker 2>until the next one, everybody be well.