WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:00.840 Night. 2 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:06.639 Can. I'm seven hundred WLW on this Tuesday evening, March eighteenth, 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:10.279 recovering from Saint Patrick's Day. I hope to feel better now, 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:14.000 and here's some more news that will make you feel 5 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:19.000 even better, I hope. Unless you're still convinced that man 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.960 made climate change is going to kill the planet in 7 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.760 the next twenty years, we have with this old friend, 8 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.559 Executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, author 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.119 of four books on energy, climate change, sustainable development, over 10 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.560 one hundred thousand copies in print. The latest, of course, 11 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:41.679 is Green Breakdown, last year's book about the coming renewable 12 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.799 energy failure. It is still out there, it is still relevant. 13 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.880 And man, the breakneck pace we are going at reversing 14 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:51.960 all the bad policies of the previous four years in 15 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:55.679 this country, to mark some of those and talk about 16 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:00.399 what is going on again, a really just incredible pace. 17 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.280 Steve Gorham, Steve, how are you. 18 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.120 Gary, Jeff, I'm doing great, Great to join you again. Yeah, 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:09.359 it is astonishing what's going on right now with the 20 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:14.719 Trump administration. Far beyond my expectations. He's turned climate change 21 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:19.920 policy upside down, actually just removing it. It's the terms 22 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.879 climate change are being removed from all federal websites right now, 23 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.200 and really big, big changes. 24 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:29.760 Well, you wonder how many of those executive orders Joe 25 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:34.239 Biden signed with an auto pen that staffer actually signed, 26 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.519 you know, interns, we're signing executive orders apparently during the 27 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:41.799 last administration. But you're right, that's another one. Yeah, it's 28 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:47.879 refreshing to see these turnabouts, especially in primary. We'll lead 29 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.319 off talking about the Department of Defense. The new Secretary 30 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.200 of Defense, Pete Hagseth, who I was rooting for. I 31 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:58.159 know they really, really, the left really politicked against this 32 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:04.280 guy getting better back into the military mindset that needs 33 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.680 to exist to properly defend our country. Lethality and all 34 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.240 the rest. And some of his other changes that he's 35 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.479 already been making and he's getting kicked back from in 36 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.759 courts and on the left, you know, are very important. 37 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:23.039 Uniforms are called uniform because they're all the same, and 38 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.120 grooming and all these other kinds of things have come 39 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:30.280 into form real early on in the Peak Headset administration. 40 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.120 There the Secretary of Department of Defense says the DoD 41 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:39.000 does not do climate change. Crap. I couldn't have said 42 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.680 it any more. Succinctly, So talk about the changes that 43 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.000 are coming to the US military because of this. 44 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.199 Yeah, this is more than terminology. This is really a big, 45 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:54.919 big change. And for about the last fourteen fifteen years, 46 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:59.360 the US military has been pushing this climate change stuff. 47 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.719 An example is now down. The military is the biggest 48 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:06.240 user of petroleum fuel in the world, about four point 49 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:07.599 six billion gallons of. 50 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.360 Fuel each here and back. 51 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.520 During the Obama administration, the US Navy announced plans to 52 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.919 get rid of reduce hydridcarbon fuels. US Secretary of the 53 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.199 Navy Ray Mabis said that by twenty twenty, at least 54 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.520 half of all energy that the Navy uses both a 55 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.000 float and the shore will come from non fossil fuel sources. 56 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.879 They called it the Great Green Fleet Initiative. And so 57 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:37.039 the Navy spent by twenty seventeen fifty seven billion dollars 58 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:41.159 to try and put biofuels into all the ships. And 59 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:44.439 the bioflows are very, very expensive. They started out about 60 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.039 twenty seven dollars a gallon, got down to fourteen dollars 61 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.520 a gallon, but you know, regular fuel is about two 62 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.840 dollars a gallon. They also were proposing these green destroyers 63 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.560 thirty four of them that would have electric engines in 64 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.360 them as well as fuel engines. But these things all 65 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:06.439 were terrible ideas. The green destroyers, for example, couldn't keep 66 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:08.240 up with the carriers when they were in the fleet, 67 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.560 the nuclear carriers, so that was a big waste. They 68 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.800 found out with bibles, they couldn't really get enough of it, 69 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.120 and when they went overseas the ports they couldn't be refueled. 70 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:22.639 So by twenty twenty two, less than one percent of 71 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:27.920 the Navy was using biofuels, despite Mabi's proposal it was 72 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:28.959 going to be fifty percent. 73 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.519 So in totally the US military has. 74 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.639 Probably spent over one hundred billion dollars of complete waste 75 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.720 the last fourteen or fifteen years on all this stuff, 76 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.600 and talk about things like electric tanks. 77 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.120 And all sorts of other things just goofy stuff. 78 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.639 Well, mister Hicksth is putting a stop to that, and 79 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.160 it's just one of the huge changes that are going 80 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:53.800 on in the Trump government right now. 81 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.839 Well, what you talk about the green Fleet initiative failing 82 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.720 miserably because it wasn't practically, it didn't work, doesn't make sense, 83 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:06.120 doesn't make sense. So many of those things happened during 84 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:11.279 the previous administration, and I don't know who was leading it, 85 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:13.720 because I don't think it was Joe Biden or any 86 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:17.759 of the department heads or secretaries of the different cabinets. 87 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.399 But anyway, I mean we had the you talk about 88 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:27.560 only one percent had finished after they'd undergone all of 89 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:33.399 this expense and intensive kind of movement. That way. It 90 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.240 reminded me of the eight billion dollars that were spent 91 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.839 on building electric charging stations and they managed to build 92 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.480 seven of them. It's all kinds of craziness like this. 93 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.720 There have been all kinds of cuts, obviously, with doze 94 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:54.519 and redundancies made to the staffs of almost all the 95 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.920 almost all the agencies in Washington, d C. Which I'd 96 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.240 love to see and didn't think it'd be moving at 97 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:05.279 this faster pace either. NOAH is one of those agencies. 98 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:10.680 The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration tell me what's happening 99 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.000 at NOAH and the EPA specifically Steve Yeah. 100 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.720 So NOAH has about thirteen thousand employees, and about one 101 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.399 thousand have already been laid off and another thousand are 102 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:24.480 targeted now. NOAH runs two of the climate models that 103 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:29.120 have been forecasting climate out decades. There are also climate 104 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.399 models at the Department of Energy, which is also experiencing cuts. 105 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:37.439 There are climate models. Well let's see where is the 106 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:41.560 other one. Oh so at NASA as well, the National 107 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.399 Aeronautic and Space Administration, and they've been given the task 108 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.360 that they're going to work on space and quit working 109 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:50.360 on climate. So I'm waiting to see if all these 110 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.639 climate models are cut. There's just there's at least six 111 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.800 of them at US agencies, and then there's a bunch 112 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.279 more that are getting federal money around the country. And 113 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.480 these are things that have been that generating climate scare 114 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.480 for a long long time. 115 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.839 Well, they're flawed, the environmental they're flawed climate model is 116 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.120 what you're talking about here. And people think, well, no, 117 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:12.600 this you don't want to eliminate something that's science and 118 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.800 something that's you know, settled science, Steve, because you know, 119 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:20.000 don't want this this monster to sneak up on us 120 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.279 and kill us all in the next ten years because 121 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:26.160 we're using fossil fuels. But these models that you're referring 122 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:30.519 to have all been proven to be unscientific and flawed. 123 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.920 Yeah, they're very They all give different outputs, they don't 124 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.560 correspond to past history. They cost twenty million dollars to 125 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.720 run a climate modeling team a year, running it on 126 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.560 a supercomputer. So there's literally billions of dollars out there 127 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.720 with all these models. There's something like more than thirty 128 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.759 models around the world. Jeez, but Trump is maybe cutting 129 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.680 those necks. I'm looking to see if that's happening the 130 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.720 Environmental Protection Agency. You know, twenty billion dollars that went 131 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:02.759 to a New York to be tributed to environmental groups 132 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.720 last year out of the Biden administration just kind of 133 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:09.199 again crazy stuff. 134 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.600 And well leez Elden has put a hold to that. 135 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.079 I was going to say, lee Zelden has I don't 136 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.079 know if he's clawed been able to plow any of 137 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.600 that money back that's already out the door. This is 138 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:25.439 the other issue, and judges may side. In fact, the 139 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:29.279 Supreme Court already cited that contracts that were signed before 140 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.320 January twentieth or twenty twenty five, legal contracts, if they're 141 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.279 in good faith, have to be fulfilled. But anything going forward, 142 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.000 and I think I don't know how much in retrospect 143 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.120 we can do to the money that's already been misappropriated 144 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:49.440 or you know, ferried out or laundered can be gotten back. 145 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:53.360 But it's what happens from this point forward that's most important. Right. 146 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:54.600 Yeah. 147 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.600 And the other issue is that a lot of this 148 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:00.360 money was allocated under the Inflation Reduction Act, an Act 149 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:04.320 of Congress, and Miss Trump's gonna have trouble getting that money. 150 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.039 He's frozen a lot of it. But he the next steps. 151 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:08.679 You know, they got the budget bill passed. The next 152 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.720 step is to go in and see if they can 153 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.600 cut a lot of that funding that's coming out of 154 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.080 the Inflation Reduction Act in other areas that is not needed. 155 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.240 So that's gonna be a big, big thing. But if 156 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.639 Congress is successful in doing that, then then a lot 157 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.480 of that other money can be blocked as well. Again, 158 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.840 these things are under the Inflation Reduction Act. There was 159 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.919 something like two trillion dollars over ten years that's going 160 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.600 to and almost all of that is going to win 161 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:40.840 solar and biofuels and carbon diox i capture, ev charging stations, 162 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.919 green hydrogen, all these green programs that would not exist 163 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.120 without all his federal and state money. So if he's 164 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.919 able to stop that, that's a big part of just 165 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.200 stopping the green energy movement's tracks in. 166 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.799 The United States. Well, FEMA is another agency that also 167 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:05.480 had all kinds of green climate initiatives or models, whatever 168 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.639 you want to call them. And FEMA itself may be 169 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.440 on its last legs and just be absorbed into the 170 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.480 Department of Homeland Security permanently, and then you know. 171 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.960 Maybe, yeah, the Federal Energy Management Agency, they react to 172 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.440 disasters and a lot of that is good work. But 173 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.279 they also have a climate department in there too, and 174 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.519 I think that's where the big cuts are going to 175 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:32.039 be from that climate department. But it is remarkable right 176 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.399 now the amount of funding cuts and a lot of 177 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.480 these folks now when the courts rule that they can't 178 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.440 fire them, then what they've done is they've taken them 179 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.399 and put them on paid administrative leave, which means they're 180 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.360 out of the job until the time comes that they 181 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.679 can get rid of them, which will come in it, 182 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.440 you know, in a few months or so. So, by 183 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.679 the way, an example with all this money being shut 184 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:59.159 off is the General Services Administration, which is in charge 185 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.480 of all the buildings in the federal government, and that 186 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.399 the GSA has just said they're gonna they're going to 187 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:10.039 dismantle eight thousand EV chargers that they were building, and 188 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.000 they're going to offload all their electric vehicles that they 189 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.919 were going to have because there's just no money for 190 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.440 it anymore. It's just disappeared. 191 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:23.759 Uh Now, people are people are always making the case, 192 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:28.519 Steve Gorm that global temperatures are abnormally warm. That's what 193 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:32.799 the UN says. What's the real truth about that? 194 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.840 Well, you and said not too long ago that we 195 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.399 were in the age of global boiling, which is very poetic. 196 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.279 But but if you, if you look at history and 197 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.120 you look at the actual data, you find out that 198 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.639 today's climate is not historically warm. We've had many periods 199 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.360 in the past a couple thousand years when it's been 200 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:55.480 much warmer than today. 201 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:58.039 We're still we're still coming out of and warming up 202 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.200 from a many many ice age three hundred years ago. 203 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.440 We've had a little bit of warming, a very gentle warming, 204 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.440 about a little more than one degree celsia since eighteen eighty, 205 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.799 one hundred and forty years. But there are many, many, many, many, 206 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.240 a lot of data it was warmer in the past. 207 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:17.919 An example is the Rhone Glacier in Switzerland, a mountainside 208 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.600 and mountainside glacier and the Rhone River flows out of it, 209 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.080 goes into France down in the Mediterranean, and that glacier 210 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.559 has been receding for more than a century. But underneath it, 211 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.679 when it pulls back, they find wagon wheels and horse bridles, 212 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.879 and they find wood that's four thousand years old, a. 213 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:35.600 Year old wood. 214 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:38.759 And the scientists have pointed out this valley where there's 215 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.799 a glacier today has been ice free for most of 216 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.200 the last ten thousand years. So what the UN is 217 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.559 telling you about it being abnormally warm. 218 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:48.879 Is just crazy. 219 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:50.399 And by the way, all those warm periods in the 220 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.480 past were when we didn't have power plants or sup 221 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.000 utility vehicles. That was just nature doing all of that. 222 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:59.240 And I got to tell you, I love this graphic 223 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.320 that you sent me about this melting glacier uncovers four 224 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:07.399 thousand year old wood. The planet in the climate is 225 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:13.360 constantly changing, is the point. And man's contribution to that 226 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.480 is relatively insignificant, isn't it. It's pretty small. 227 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.799 Actually, if you break down the greenhouse effect, which is 228 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.799 blamed for trapping out going infra red radiation and when 229 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.879 we emit stuff in our industry it adds to the 230 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.799 greenhouse effect. But if you break down the effect, the 231 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.799 first thing you find out is that about seventy to 232 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.600 ninety percent of the greenhouse effect is good to water, vapor, 233 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:43.440 and clouds. And then if you take the last quarter, 234 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:48.360 that's mostly carbon dioxide and little methane. But then most 235 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.879 of that carbon dioxide is from nature. Every day, nature 236 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.480 puts carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from oceans and from 237 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.440 the biosphere, and nature puts twenty times as much into 238 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.720 the atmosphere every day as all of our industries and 239 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.240 are moved about the same amount. 240 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.080 So when you really go through the greenhouse. 241 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.840 Effect, you find out that human industry is responsible for 242 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:11.120 one or two percent of the effect. 243 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:12.320 It's very, very. 244 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.000 Small, and we would not be able to even if 245 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.639 we eliminate all greenhouse gases, we wouldn't be able to 246 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.080 measure that difference in global temperatures. 247 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:21.480 It's so small. 248 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:24.360 Go ahead, I'm sorry. 249 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.799 Climate change is dominated by nature, not man made emissions. 250 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.440 And the world spending two billion dollars a year trying 251 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:31.759 to stop the oceans from rising. 252 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.240 That's a complete waste of money. 253 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.720 CO two is not poison. It's not a pollutant. It 254 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.120 is necessary for life on Earth. We know that CO 255 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:44.519 two is green. In a recent article, you were pointing 256 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:49.039 out that localities, towns, and cities and in many states 257 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:54.200 pushing back against green energy. It's so weird that how 258 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.480 this is flipped on its head, Steve, just in a 259 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:01.960 few short months and the last couple of years ago 260 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.159 when they saw the green energy was not efficient or 261 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.200 cost effective. There's a bill bounding eminent domain for wind 262 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.080 and solar in Oklahoma. There's a bill in Arizona that 263 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.879 would ban wind systems on more than ninety percent of 264 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:20.399 state land. We've gone from banning drilling for the natural 265 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:24.960 resources that we have to banning these so called sustainable 266 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:29.360 projects that don't necessarily fit our needs or work. 267 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.519 Now, this is the other side of the coin. We 268 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.320 got Trump on one side. Now we have states and 269 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.919 cities blocking things. A USA Today did a study at 270 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.639 twenty twenty three and found that there are four hundred 271 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.679 counties now in the United States that are blocking wind systems, 272 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:47.399 and that number has risen in the last year and 273 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.759 a half to over five hundred counties. That's about sixteen 274 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.919 percent of US counties that restrict wind systems. About one 275 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.639 hundred counties are restricting wind and solar, and the data 276 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.240 show that we're getting more and more wind and solar 277 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.960 rejections in the US. One of the big reasons is 278 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:08.840 that wind takes about one hundred times wind and solo 279 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.879 take one hundred times the land area as a traditional 280 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.720 nuclear or coal or natural gas power plants. Yeah, and 281 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.120 then also they're in remote areas, are up on ridges, 282 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.759 they are far from cities, so you have to build 283 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.639 all this transmission, and you have to build two or 284 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.879 three times the transmission powers that you would with a 285 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.639 traditional power plant. You got to build out the remote areas, 286 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.039 and people don't like transmission powers next to their property. 287 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.600 So we have states and counties and towns pushing back. 288 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.279 Now, well, I don't personally, I don't like to look 289 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.840 at the arrays of bird killers, and I really am 290 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:48.919 not a big fan of seeing beautiful farmland swallowed up 291 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.279 with solar panels. Steve Gorham as always enlightening and a 292 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.639 great chance to discuss some of this green breakdowns. Still 293 00:16:57.639 --> 00:16:59.559 out here is still going strong. Have you got any 294 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.919 more books and the works now? 295 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:02.320 Right now? 296 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.359 I need a good idea. Well, maybe I'll write another 297 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.680 one we'll see. But uh again, Green Green Breakdowns a 298 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.440 lot of fun. It's a complete discussion of the energy 299 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:15.319 transition from power plants, home appliances, dbs, everything else. And 300 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.359 it's got a whole bunch of color sidebars. One for example, Uh, 301 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.920 these are real headlines Britain's advice to stop showering to 302 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.200 conserve energy. And there were even some people saying that 303 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.599 you should shower with a friend in England to uh 304 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:30.400 to keep to serve save energy. 305 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.400 But listen, you you know what you're saying. Listen, Steve, 306 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.240 you do you, I'll do me and and we'll figure 307 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:42.160 out what's what's the best for our showering habits. Uh. 308 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.440 Can you find the books anywhere, Steve. 309 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:48.440 Or yeah, my website Steve Gorham dot com. 310 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:50.039 G O R E H A M. 311 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:52.119 I'll send him a signed copy of Green Breakdown and 312 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.039 my other books like The Madman, Mad World of Climatism 313 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.960 or the ebooks as well, and you can get them 314 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:58.680 on the Amazon. 315 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.039 All right, fantastic, Thank you for your time tonight. Steve Gorham, 316 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.279 Executive director of the Client Science Climate Science Coalition of 317 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:11.119 American author of Green Breakdown, out right now in available 318 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.480 as you heard the Nightcap continues in mere moments after 319 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.720 a break on seven hundred Wlwrick conversants. If that's a 320 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:25.880 word it Guy Doomsday, Dave the tech Guru Dave Hatter 321 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.440 is back for a nightcap conversation. Man, it's good to 322 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:32.480 talk to you, always is, and I wish you could 323 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.920 have been there for the Saturday Morning edition party this 324 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:40.480 past weekend. It was a great, great gathering and I'll 325 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.480 have to send you a group picture. Maybe we can 326 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:44.920 find one of you and photoshop you in Dave. 327 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.000 Yeah, there you go. We can use some deep bay technology. Well. 328 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:50.559 First off, care Jeff as all we thanks for having 329 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.640 me on. You know I feel the same way about you, 330 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.480 and I'm sorry I didn't make it Saturday to either 331 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:57.880 the event or down of the bar. Saturday morning, I 332 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.640 was doing the Kent and County Mayors group meeting. It's 333 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.480 one of the most exciting and riveting experiences you could 334 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:04.839 ever have in your life. 335 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:06.640 Tell you, I got to tell you this. When I 336 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.920 first started in radio as an intern, they had me 337 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.480 and then one of my first jobs, along with being 338 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.279 a disc jockey, was to go and cover the local 339 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.559 school board meeting and take notes for the news department. 340 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:21.640 I fell asleep in the middle of the meeting and 341 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.279 had to get notes from somebody else. When the meeting 342 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:28.119 was over and they woke me up. I was You're right, 343 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.559 I understand how riveting those those mayor's meetings can be. 344 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:35.400 Dave, I'm not shocked by that, Gary, I'm not shocked. 345 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.480 We have been warning people and warning people, and they 346 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.799 still don't listen. They keep on talking to their alexa, 347 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:48.839 to their echo, and it's it's too late to do 348 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.160 anything about what you said to your echo in the 349 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.960 last six months, but you might want to watch your 350 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:58.440 tongue for the next week or so because everything you 351 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:02.559 say to your echo will be sent to Amazon starting 352 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:05.319 on March twenty eighth. Now, what is the reason they're 353 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:09.200 sending everything you say to your echo to Amazon. I'm 354 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:10.599 unclear on this, Dave. 355 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.839 Well, there's their ostensible reason and then there's you know, 356 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.000 what I would suggest is the real reason. But before 357 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:20.440 I forgets Garry, Jeff, if I could real quick, I 358 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.640 just want to give a shout out to my oldest son, Samuel. 359 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.559 He just started a new role with a reliant search group. 360 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.880 So if if you're looking for a professional white collar talent, 361 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.240 Samuel can hook you up. Look him up on LinkedIn. 362 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:34.039 Love you buddy, proud of you, good job. So this's 363 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.480 Amazon thing, you know, Gary Jeff, I have my issues 364 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.880 with Amazon, like all these big tech companies, and it's 365 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:45.799 mostly because A, I don't believe that consumers that use 366 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:50.519 these products use them with full informed consent. Be the 367 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:55.559 business model of these companies is heavily plated in their favor, 368 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.839 and you know, you are their product, not their customer, 369 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.400 which kind of leads back to my first point. And 370 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:05.119 then see their whole business model guarantees that they are 371 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:09.599 delivering these so called smart products, devices intern out of things, 372 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.920 devices that are really geared towards feed the market, ease 373 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.920 of use, the market share at the expense of your 374 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.920 privacy and security, so Amazon claims. And then email they 375 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.240 send out to their customers. Now, I want to be clear, 376 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:24.119 Gary Jeff, I don't have an Amazon Echo or any 377 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:27.200 sort of these so called smart home personal assistance, digital 378 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.680 assistance whatever they go by today. Even on my Apple phone, 379 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:32.960 I have SERI turned off. Yeah, I'm the sort of 380 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.079 lud eyed who just types on the phone because I 381 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:38.759 don't want these things listening to me. And there's two 382 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:41.559 reasons both the point you're asking about in this article 383 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:43.519 and a study was done a couple of years ago 384 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:46.319 where they took a bunch of these devices Amazon, Echo, 385 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:48.440 Google Home or whatever they call it, and a bunch 386 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:49.799 of these things and put them in a room with 387 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:51.839 a TV and let it play for twenty four hours 388 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.119 to see how often these things will activate versus when 389 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:58.839 they should activate. Because you say they're activation phrase, wake phrase, 390 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:01.200 hot word or whatever they call it, right, everybody called 391 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.480 it something difference, And while I wasn't shocked, I think 392 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:06.519 most people if they went and saw how often these 393 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:10.880 things activate when you haven't said hey, Alexa or hay 394 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:13.079 theory or whatever it is, right, And it'll be funny 395 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:14.920 how many of these we probably just set off by 396 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:20.160 saying that. It's pretty surprising. And again it's because they're 397 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.880 going to err on the side of making it easy 398 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.240 for consumers to use. If you have to keep talking 399 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:26.160 to the thing and it doesn't do what you ask 400 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.559 it too, it's going to get really frustrated. Right. Kind 401 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.279 of reminds me Gary, Jeff, do you remember in Star 402 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.359 Trek four, the one where they're coming back to get 403 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.359 the whales and Scotty's trying to talk to the computer. 404 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.279 Now it's quite hilarious. And the guy's like, no, you 405 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.039 use it like this, and he puts it down on Scotty. 406 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:45.160 He's like, oh, how quaint. Anyhow, you know it's a classic, 407 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.599 that's one of the funniest Star Trek movies. But anyhow, 408 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.960 you know, they claim they're doing this. In the old 409 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.720 version of this thing, you had a way. Now you 410 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.480 had to turn it on again. This kind of gets 411 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:58.200 back to the privacy washing angle, where these companies don't 412 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.759 give you good advice, don't want you to talk off features, 413 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:04.000 want to collect your data, want to violate your privacy. 414 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.119 You'd have to turn it on and basically say I 415 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.000 don't want my recordings send to Amazon servers. I want 416 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:12.799 them processed locally on the device, well, per this email. 417 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.400 And ostensibly because they're only out some AI features and 418 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.599 you're going to get all this additional capability, which requires 419 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.680 the amazing power of their AI servers, you now have 420 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.400 to send all your recordings to Amazon, whether you want 421 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:26.920 to or not, if you want to be able to 422 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.960 utilize the device. So in theory, it's because they're bringing 423 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.440 you more power, more convenience, more capabilities, you know, I 424 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.720 would argue it's because they just want more of your data. 425 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.200 And I would also suggest that people look into some 426 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:43.559 of the previous complaints about these devices in general, as 427 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:47.880 well as Echo and Alex in particular around what they're 428 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:49.960 doing with your data, who can access it, who can 429 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.319 listen to those recordings, et cetera. And then finally, Gary Jeff, 430 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.279 it's well documented that these things have been used in 431 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.680 court cases before, so you know, buyer beware. 432 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.319 Well, I wanted to change gears real quick here Dave 433 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:06.880 and talk about a not so pleasant experience I had 434 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:12.319 with my provider of my cell phone and my Outlook 435 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.200 email service whatever I use my phone for, and it's 436 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:20.319 very little, but anyway, I don't remember and I cannot 437 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:24.759 even think of what my Apple idea is. So I 438 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.640 wanted to take advantage of a promotion that was going 439 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.920 on with my provider where I could trade in my 440 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:38.000 own my old iPhone for a new iPhone. They were 441 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.240 going to just give it to me for trading in 442 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:43.039 my phone, and you know, I have service with them, 443 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:48.160 So I go down there and again it is the 444 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.079 the bait and switch. They get you into the brick 445 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.920 and mortar store with these deals that aren't everything they're advertised, 446 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.559 except maybe in the small print on your television and screen, 447 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:05.160 which nobody reads that. Uh, and found out that my 448 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.440 Apple iPhone my se was too old. It didn't fit 449 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:13.920 the qualifications for the swamp. And then and then they 450 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.799 were going to say, well, we can't get you the 451 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:20.000 I sixteen. The iPhone sixteen will get you the iPhone 452 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:24.480 fourteen for six hundred dollars spread out over you know, 453 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:29.359 two years time whatever not. I said, okay, And but 454 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.640 you know how they used to at these cell phone places, 455 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.960 they just changed the SIM card in your new phone, 456 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.279 they transfer all of your stuff. No, now you have 457 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:43.480 to do it yourself at this at this particular office. 458 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.440 And I thought, oh, that's ridiculous. Just six months ago. 459 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.440 Said well, yeah, that's the way we used to do it. 460 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.920 We just started doing it this way this month. And 461 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:55.319 since I don't know my Apple, id's what's the best. 462 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:58.480 And then they finished the conversation without me getting a 463 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:01.119 phone at all and walking away with the old phone, 464 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:05.119 which I really need to upgrade, and said you may 465 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:09.319 want to call Apple, as aid, oh, great, any any 466 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.319 advice at all for me in this day? 467 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:14.960 Yeah, if you have to call Apple. That's probably gonna 468 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.519 get real tricky, because you know, these large tech companies 469 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.079 are usually very difficult to get on the phone. And 470 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:23.759 from the security perspective, I would remind folks the likelihood 471 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:28.880 of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, IBM fill in the blank 472 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.720 calling Amazon calling you on the phone to tell you 473 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.880 you have a security problem is about as great as 474 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.559 a meteor wiping us both out at this very instant. 475 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:40.599 Uh, you know they're not great. Hold on, hold on, 476 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.960 hold on, Dave, We're still here. Thank god, we've dodged another. 477 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.839 At least for at least for now. Okay, but you know, 478 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.559 you can try to recover your Apple idea. Apples has 479 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.519 through their website, you know, various recovery processes to try 480 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.759 to like reset your password to try to recover your 481 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.279 you know, use your name to try to recover your 482 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.240 Apple ID. My suggestion, and we can talk about this 483 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.480 offline if you want, is to start with the website 484 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.359 and see if you can get logged in in any way, 485 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.920 shape or form. You should be able to try to 486 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.799 recover it through there. You know, Also, as a piece 487 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.680 of advice, it may be too late for you now, 488 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.359 but Apple has built in some fairly handy features. And 489 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.519 this is not because I'm an Apple fanboy. I just 490 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.799 they tend to be more privacy and security friendly than 491 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.000 a lot of the other tech providers. So my whole 492 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.039 family has Apple phones, and you can set up these 493 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.359 family features so that, like you know, you can recover 494 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.880 an account from another trusted device. So you know, if 495 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.960 you want to, for anyone listening to this, if you 496 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.839 want to try to avoid these kind of problems yourself, 497 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.519 because you know this happens to people all the time, 498 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.759 Gary Jef, you know you may want to look into 499 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.160 some of these family oriented features, assuming you trust your 500 00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.400 family members, and turn some of this stuff on, because 501 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.680 it can help you recover accounts and do things with 502 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.839 a lot less grief. Because one of the most problematic 503 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.960 things for people if they've taken advice nerds like me, 504 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.960 you're given all the time to turn on multi facture 505 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.119 authentication and all this other stuff. You get all that 506 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.599 set up, and then you lose your phone. If all 507 00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.359 those codes are going to the phone, whether it's an 508 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.640 authenticator app or just the text messages, it can make 509 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.240 it very difficult to get into your accounts, especially if 510 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.720 you don't have some of these commergency recovered things set up. Yeah, 511 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.640 so yeah, you may ultimately have to call Apple. I 512 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.480 hope you don't have to go down that path because 513 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.160 that will probably be even more frustrating. But hopefully if 514 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.599 you go to Apple's website, you'll be able to get 515 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.519 logged in there and try to recover the account without 516 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.400 the need to get on the phone, because I suspect 517 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.279 that might be time consuming. 518 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.240 And painful for you if you have to do that. Well, yeah, 519 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.119 I mean it only gets worse from here. Talking to 520 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.160 Dave Hatter on the Nightcap on this Tuesday night on 521 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.400 seven under WLW. All Right, so we've talked about iPhones, 522 00:28:53.759 --> 00:29:00.559 let's talk about its ugly brother, the Android, because they're 523 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:06.799 really really many many problems with Android's devices that aren't 524 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:13.240 you don't see generally with the iPhones, including this. The 525 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.799 title of this is Android devices track you before you 526 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.319 even sign in? How is that possible? 527 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:24.680 Dave? So this particular article is from malay Bites. They 528 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.000 make security software pretty well in pretty well respected company, 529 00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.319 and you know they look they had they're reporting on 530 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.880 some research that's basically showing one of the reasons why 531 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.480 I'm always suggesting to people that when you think about 532 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.960 these large tech companies and you know who is more 533 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.519 privacy friendly and security friendly than others? You know, Apple 534 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.400 seems to be a lot more privacy and security friendly. 535 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.720 That's not to say they don't have their flaws, but 536 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.960 this is a perfect example. You know, Google is considered 537 00:29:54.960 --> 00:30:00.359 constantly being They're having allegations made that they are not 538 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.400 your friends when it comes to privacy and security, and 539 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.720 you have to remember the whole business model is around 540 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.519 collecting your data. Other than androids, the Android operating system, 541 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.640 and the pixel phone from Google, what can you really 542 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.279 buy from them as consumer? The answer is almost nothing 543 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.519 because they give everything away to collect your data. That's 544 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.359 their business model. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just 545 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.920 saying that is the business model. And in order to 546 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.680 maximize the amount of money they can make off of you, 547 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.160 they want to track you everywhere, all the time, across 548 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.880 all your devices. You know, they've recently come under fire 549 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.920 beyond this for backing off the idea that they wouldn't 550 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.759 use fingerprinting to track you because cookies can be blocked. 551 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.640 Fingerprinting is a more unique way to track you across 552 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.880 multiple devices. They were going to not do it now 553 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.279 they're back to it again. You know, people can make 554 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.519 their own decisions. But the point they make in this 555 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:58.200 article is that if you are using an Android device, 556 00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.759 basically here's a direct quote. Researchers found that multiple identifiers 557 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.880 are used to track the user of an Android handset 558 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.000 even before they have opened the Google app or signed 559 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.240 into their Google account. Pre installed afflict. The Google Plate 560 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.000 services and Google Play stores send cookies, identifiers, and other 561 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.799 data to Google servers without user consent. The researchers flag 562 00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:22.240 that leaves five types of identifiers, advertising analytics, tookise tracking cookies, 563 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.640 the Google Android ID analytics, cookies used for AP testing, 564 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.559 multiple other cookies and identifiers which can uniquely identify the handset. 565 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:31.680 And then they want to say, since there's no ask 566 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.279 for consent, there's no way to opt out. And to me, 567 00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.319 that's always the issue with these things, scary Jeff. Even 568 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.960 if you can't opt out, they often use dark patterns 569 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.440 and privacy washing to make it difficult to try to 570 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.640 tell you why you shouldn't opt out. And it's because 571 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.960 of this whole crazy surveillance capitalism model we're in where 572 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.680 your data is worth more than the devices themselves. And 573 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.759 you know, they want and need to collect as much 574 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.000 as possible to maintain their huge profit margins. 575 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.559 Till people, what's that? And till people what? 576 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.240 I just can say until people realize that it would 577 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.359 be better for them and then there and then their 578 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.519 own interest to pay a small amount of money for 579 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.640 things rather than these so called free services. I don't 580 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.480 know how we're we're going to stop this, because you know, 581 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.480 people will maintain this mentality of well, why do I 582 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.599 care about that? You know, I have no privacy, I 583 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.720 got nothing to hide. But they don't think about the 584 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.839 long term consequences of all this data and how it 585 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.920 should be used to manipulate you tell you more stuff, 586 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.480 and used, you know, like to get around the Fourth Amendment. 587 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:33.799 The government just go to these companies and buys this data. 588 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.440 Well here's here's another and this is kind of associated 589 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.880 with what we were just talking about. Dave. There's a 590 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.799 new Android feature scanning your photos for sensitive content. How 591 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.680 do you stop that? Nip that in the bud and 592 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.920 what exactly is sensitive content? We got a couple of minutes, 593 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.559 so if you want to address. 594 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.599 That, net yeah, I'll it send it real quick. Then 595 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.559 sensitive content typically you know that's sort of a more 596 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:04.480 fuzzy turn for things like child sexual and I can't 597 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.480 think it a term. It's got a specific legal term, 598 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.400 but basically you know, whether it's new photos or child 599 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:14.279 pornography or whatever. You know. The idea that they rolled 600 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.759 out a new feature called Android System Safety Core. And 601 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.160 the good news is in this particular case you can 602 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.640 disable it, and there are well documented instructions online to 603 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.480 walk you through the steps on an Android phone if 604 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.079 you have this in the in the later versions of 605 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.319 the operating system. But the bottom line is it theoretically 606 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.200 is going to run in the background on your device 607 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.920 and look for sensitive content quote unquote. They don't necessarily 608 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.880 describe that as specific detail, but again it usually for 609 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.000 child sexual abuse. Again, I thought I had it anyhow, 610 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.160 see Sam, you can look up the specific definition. It's 611 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.920 looking for stuff like that. And now there is a 612 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.240 theoretical benefit. You know, before you upload a nude photo 613 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.359 or something like that, I could warn you. And again, 614 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.240 most of this stuff cuts both ways, right, it's not 615 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.360 always nefarious, But do you really trust Google to scan 616 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.000 this content and then make decisions about whether it's good 617 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.320 or bad? You know, could they potentially report you to 618 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.000 the police for something you inadvert You know, if I 619 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.360 text you some kind of photo that's illegal, right if 620 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.000 it finds that on your phone and then you delete it, 621 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.039 but it's already founded and it's reported you to some authorities. 622 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.880 Is that a crime? You didn't ask for it, you 623 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.119 didn't go find it. I send it to you. You 624 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.679 can't necessarily stop me from sending you something until you 625 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.639 block me. This just gets into a very gray area 626 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.639 in my mind and the idea that this thing is 627 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.760 going to be scanning the content of my device and 628 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:53.000 making any kind of decisions about that to the extent 629 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.599 that it might be beneficial. Yeah, I'm just going to say 630 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.679 a hard no on that, and you can go online. 631 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.920 I just want to read sure you I will not 632 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.920 be sending you any nude photos, I promise normal. Jeff Good, 633 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.840 it's that I think. I think that is a perfect 634 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.119 place in the conversation tonight, Dave, and I appreciate your 635 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.559 time as always, my friend. Thank you very much, David. 636 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.719 All right, I have more of the Nightcap coming of 637 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.199 the Nightcap here on seven hundred WLW. You know it 638 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.519 is the home of the best Bengals coverage and the 639 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.039 home of the Reds, but it's also the home of 640 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.199 the Nightcap, which is what you're listening to now. And 641 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.239 up next is my old friend. And I emphasize old 642 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:40.599 but also the friend part because I feel like he 643 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.159 is a friend. He is the one and only fer 644 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.639 Ball Andy Furman, and we will discuss something. I don't 645 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.760 know what it is. But we didn't plan this sound, 646 00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:49.400 did we, Andy. 647 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.840 We never do not, really, we never usually do so. 648 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.320 And this is the home of the best nightcap coverage too, 649 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.039 it really is. And so and I want to say 650 00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:59.920 Psyche once again. By the way, I wish you a 651 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.639 happy anniversary. You your big party Saturday a Huddles which 652 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.639 I couldn't make for family reasons, but again I wish 653 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.239 you so much success and been here a long time, 654 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.199 over a quarter century. 655 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.199 And we had a sec We had a seat in 656 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.679 the group picture reserved just for you, which didn't get filled, 657 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.679 next to the seven foot cardboard cutout of Donald Trump. 658 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.280 You would have been right at home. You would have 659 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.119 been right there, baby. And it was a bit. It 660 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.840 was a huge party and we're hoping to have some 661 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.920 photos out soon as soon as keepsake. Kim, who is 662 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.280 my uh my favorite unofficial official photographer of the Saturday 663 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:42.360 morning edition at keep Seek Photography there, uh, and I 664 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.920 believe it's whit Where is it? I'm not sure, but anyway, 665 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.920 she came out and did the uh, did the photos 666 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.280 for the event. And there were some stunners there, including 667 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.760 Dick from Dayton. And you know, I don't know if 668 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.840 you've ever had the chance to talk to I'm Fox 669 00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:05.280 Sports thirteen sixty on your Sunday morning show, but yeah, 670 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.199 he's quite the celebrity these days, and it's all because 671 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:11.079 of my show. Anyway. 672 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.800 And you know what, I will say this about that 673 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.840 party because I was there last year. Yeah, there was 674 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.199 no promotion except you behind the microphone on seven hundred. 675 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:21.079 Think about that. 676 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.559 There was no advertisements, There was no promo on the 677 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.360 station except if they listened to you on Saturday morning 678 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:27.159 they showed up. 679 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.400 Was the credit to you? Because there was one heck 680 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.320 of an audience there. 681 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.079 There's only one reason that that is successful, and it 682 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:36.000 is all the people who listened to that show on 683 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.639 Saturday morning and participate in that show. And you're right, 684 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.960 no station promotions of it or anything else, no sponsor connections, 685 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.920 just getting together for a good time to celebrate our 686 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.159 little family on Saturday mornings. And it was lovely to 687 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:52.719 have you there. 688 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.480 And you know what, people are always. 689 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.199 Celebrating from your party. They still celebrate for your party 690 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.119 on Saturday. After what happened yesterday with the Bengals with 691 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.000 Chase and t Higgins signing their contract, which I had 692 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.280 no doubt that was going to happen, because I'll tell 693 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.480 you why, the Bengals had all the cards. Why would 694 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.840 the Bengals rushing to anything like that. It was going 695 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.119 to happen, although there was some naysayers saying that it 696 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.559 would never happen. I think those people, be immediate people 697 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.599 and fans or people that call the station, they need 698 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.119 to seriously, they need to step up and apologize and 699 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.440 say to Mike Brown, all call up on Lance mccallon's show, whatever. 700 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.519 It may be, say you know what we were wrong. 701 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.559 I give credit to Mike Brown and the Cinnati Bengals, 702 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:31.320 the organization. 703 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.440 They did the right thing. They signed these guys. 704 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.280 Well, I mean, you said you knew right away. I 705 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.320 would rather on any news story, whether it's superstar athletes 706 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.039 or important news stuff that's really important, you know, I 707 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.119 would rather get it right than get it first. So 708 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:49.800 there's this. 709 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.440 You know, I knew I didn't go public with it. 710 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.480 I wouldn't go even on social media with it. But 711 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.960 I keeople remembering those wise words of Phil Castellini to president. 712 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.320 So the Society writes three years ago, he said, where 713 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.840 a you're gonna go? Where you're gonna go? Where was 714 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:05.440 Higgins and. 715 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.039 Chase going to go? Chase is still signed for this year. 716 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:09.800 They're not going to go anywhere. They wanted to be here. 717 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:11.920 They basically said they'd be here, and Duke Tobin said 718 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.079 they were going to sign these guys to long term deals. 719 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.599 Bengals had the money, you know, and there were people 720 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.559 calling up saying that Thingals achieved. 721 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.119 They have the money, They're not going to do it. 722 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:21.079 They got the money. 723 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.159 I mean, this is the National Football League. I mean, 724 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.440 come on, really, there is a multi billion dollar business. 725 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.480 They have the money, they got it done, and where 726 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:29.320 were they going to go? Bengals have all the cards 727 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.280 and they played it right and that's what they did. 728 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.280 And they probably could have signed Troy Hendrickson too. 729 00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.559 But you know how how all these organization news organizations 730 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.239 and sports talk organizations and even as social media, they're 731 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.199 always trying to get the scoop, trying to get it first, 732 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.760 and many times they get it horribly wrong because they're 733 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.599 rushing to judgment on anonymous sources and things they really 734 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.639 don't know whe're going to happen. You though, you said 735 00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.440 you knew all along, Chase and Higgins, we're going to 736 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.719 be signed up. I didn't go to. 737 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:01.199 Public with it. 738 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.159 I mean, I even have a radio show on the 739 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.039 weekends on Fox Sports Radio, and Ashley I said, I 740 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.199 think they go. It wasn't a done deal. I would 741 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.320 never say that because I wasn't sure. I didn't check 742 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.880 any facts. I didn't call anybody. You know, it's not 743 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.480 my job. I'm not a reporter, you know, I'm sort 744 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:16.920 of like a columnist on the radio. 745 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:17.639 I have an opinion. 746 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:18.320 That's what I do. 747 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.679 Yeah, and sometimes you've got some really, really weird and 748 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.880 wild opinions, which is why I like having you on. 749 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.320 You know, and I do, and this is March madness 750 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.119 in my opinions are coming up fairly strong right now 751 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.360 because I'm thinking about the University of Cincinnati basketball program 752 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.400 and I feel it hurts me where they've been and 753 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.119 basically where they are right now. And if you look 754 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.039 at the basketball carousel of coaches that have been let 755 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:45.320 go Villanova today, let Kyle Neptune Gon after three years 756 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.280 he made the n i T. Once University of Minnesota 757 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:51.000 fire their basketball coach Ben Johnson last Thursday. 758 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:52.039 This guy was. 759 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.400 There what for four years with one trip to the 760 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.360 NIT and only one winning season, and the University of 761 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.840 Cincinnati Wes Miller four years, no postseason, with no nc 762 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.320 the LA onto n T last year. And I think 763 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.360 the saving grace is not so much that he's liked 764 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.400 by the athletic director. There's the athletic director's call, there's 765 00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.480 his pit. I think the saving grace is the agents. 766 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.559 And what do I mean by that? These guys have 767 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.480 such tremendous buyout clauses in that contracts. Schools like the 768 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.320 University of Cincinnati don't have the wherewith all of the 769 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:24.440 finances to pay. 770 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:26.639 This guy off and let him go. Bus Why he 771 00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:27.119 was saved. 772 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.400 I believe you're right about that. That's the only reason 773 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.960 that Wes Miller is still at the University of Cincinnati 774 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.639 heading up the basketball program, because you see, is not 775 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.000 going to pay you know, double figure million dollar payoffs 776 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.599 payouts just to get rid of him, and then you know, 777 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.960 you incur the expense and it's going to take a 778 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.239 lot of money to hire the next U see coach 779 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.719 if they're worth their salt and can deliver results in 780 00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:57.239 the Big twelve. I don't think that you're going to 781 00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:02.119 find another I don't know, uh, stepping stone kind of 782 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.239 coach if you want the program to be successful at 783 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.199 that level. Now, let's look beyond Wes Miller, because whether 784 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.320 it's you know, he's not going anywhere this year next season, 785 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.239 that buyout is like cut in half. And I think 786 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.199 you see would consider it if we have another bad 787 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.960 bear cat year on the on the court right under him. 788 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.199 But let's look at who the next one could be 789 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.559 and who the next one, the next coach could come for. 790 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:33.400 I mean, is you see is there status now? Is 791 00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:37.719 a Big twelve program a little bit higher echelon than 792 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.199 being in the ACT or Conference USA, you know whatever 793 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:45.039 these previous lesser conferences. Do you think you can attract 794 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:48.920 the talented coach, not necessarily the one on the way up, 795 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.199 but one that has an established record. You know what? 796 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.440 You bring up an excellent point. 797 00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.440 I discussed this the other morning on Fox Sports Ready 798 00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.960 with my partner Bucket Brooks and here's the situation years ago. 799 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.079 So I think. 800 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:03.760 Coaches looked at the conference that they're. 801 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.079 In, maybe how many games they're televised, because when you're 802 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.239 on TV, so it's like a recruiting tool, and basically 803 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:10.960 you know how much money you're going to get paid. 804 00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.760 I think nowadays, I think the first thing a coach 805 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:20.199 looks at is his nil situation and the alums, how 806 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.880 big their wallets are. I gotta believe that because you 807 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.960 are nothing without people buying players for you. 808 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:26.920 And I don't know what. 809 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.480 The deal is at the University of Cincinnati how strong 810 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:29.840 it is. 811 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.199 And I will tell you this much. 812 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.840 I think that you may be better served as a 813 00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.320 college coach going to a school like a Xavier or 814 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.280 coaching a school like a Marquette that does not have 815 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.000 football because all the energies and moneys are funneled into 816 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.760 basketball rather than football and basketball. Maybe I'm crazy, but 817 00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:49.559 Xavier's got it right. 818 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:50.239 They really do. 819 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:51.440 You don't need football. 820 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.880 They're very successful in basketball because every alum there is 821 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.320 for one thing or one thing only basketball. 822 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.239 Well, but on the other hand, of football program brings 823 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.639 in a lot of revenue in and of itself, and uh, 824 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.159 you know it's maul male mole, as we like to say. 825 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.199 But you know the thing too about what you were 826 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:15.199 you're bringing up about Xavier and Marquette and teams that 827 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.000 can solely focus on basketball. I don't know if it's 828 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.440 if it's not an I don't know if it's not 829 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.559 a concerted effort all the way around. It's you come 830 00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.400 down to not how many teams that you're putting out there, 831 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.400 but you come down to the athletic department, that president 832 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:39.599 of the athletic school there at UC. And I think 833 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.400 that that's always one of those situations that have to 834 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.079 be looked at. You know, who's who's the head guy, 835 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.159 who's the athletic director, Who's the one hiring the Wes 836 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.840 Millers of the world. And I don't think that has 837 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.639 anything to do with the fact that you see as 838 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.199 a football program. 839 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.639 Do you Well, I will tell you this much. 840 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.719 Wes Miller right now based was one two for the 841 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.679 North Carolina job. How do I know that Because Bucky Brooks, 842 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.960 who my partner is, he played football in the NFL 843 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.199 for five years, but he played football at the University 844 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.000 of North Carolina. He's very, very close to the program. 845 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.360 He told me that many alums wanted Wes Millers the coach. 846 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.159 He didn't get it, you know, but right now with 847 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.400 their coach, luckily they made the NCAA in the play 848 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.440 in North Carolina. There's a good chance that if Wes 849 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.719 Miller has let go, he could very well be the 850 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.639 next coach at the University of North Carolina. He's very 851 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.280 well respected there. And I think that you talked about 852 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.280 an alumni base that is hungry for basketball, hungry for 853 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.880 a winner, a great tradition. I think they got the 854 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.039 money for Nil. Now all of a sudden, he could 855 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.199 turn it around the next thing. 856 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:44.400 You know. 857 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.880 Wes Miller's does say he's a great coach. Well, he's 858 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.159 a great coach because he got that financial support. That's 859 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.679 what you need, you know. A Villanovo Jay Wright did 860 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.199 great things and he left, and he left. There was 861 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.280 no coincidence he left when Nil came into vogue. Why 862 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.920 he said, an old school kind of guy and he 863 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.320 didn't want to get involved going out there, going and 864 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.360 begging and paying players. So they're bringing Kyle Neptune, who 865 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.480 I know. Kyle Neptune played for Villanova, but he's a 866 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.079 Brooklyn guy played for Brooklyn Prepp and even Brooklyn, New York. 867 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.159 He's there for three years and they let him go. 868 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.599 This the other day and right now there's some talk, 869 00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:20.679 believe it or not, that Mit Cronin's on the short 870 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.719 list to get the coaching job at Villanova. Less of 871 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.880 a pressure cooker, I would think than UCLA for more 872 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.119 than that. You're not going to compete with anybody. Who 873 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:33.159 does Villanova really compete with in the Big five schools? LaSalle, 874 00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.239 They're terrible, Temple is no good anymore. 875 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:36.039 So it's just. 876 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.840 Villanova, and I think the people who work at Villanova 877 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.519 really want to see that program go back to where 878 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:42.159 it was was. 879 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.159 Let's talk about another coach that has proven time and 880 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.239 time again, school after school after school that he has, 881 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:55.000 if not the best college coach of his era, certainly 882 00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:57.800 one of the top three. Rick Patino and the job 883 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.519 he has done at Saint John's. You go from Providence, 884 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.519 where you win like like nobody expected. You go to Kentucky. 885 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.199 He's won everywhere but at the pro level and even 886 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:12.480 had some success. 887 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.159 So he won the here's some success with the Knicks, 888 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:15.440 with the. 889 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.519 New York Knicks. Yeah, so is he not the best 890 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.760 college coach today? Is it Tom Izzo? Is it Rick Patino? 891 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.079 Who's your short list? 892 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.000 I would say that tom Izzo maybe the most consistent 893 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.119 because he did it in one place for so many years. 894 00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:33.559 But I think that when you took of it old time, 895 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.719 he may be the old time. And again, like people 896 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.960 judge success even like going to the Hall of Fame 897 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.960 with rings and championships, and yes, it's tough to win 898 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.760 a championship. I'm just saying what he has done was 899 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.599 he accomplished. And you talk about all the schools that 900 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.559 he took to the NC Double A. I think his 901 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:53.039 biggest success story was two years ago when he took 902 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:56.320 Iona College NCY Double A. I mean, really, they just 903 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.480 fired the coach yesterday at Iona. I mean that's what 904 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.039 he does. When you follow, and I call them a legend, 905 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.920 when you follow a legend, and that's what basically Kyle 906 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.519 left Tune did it. J Jay Wright of Villanova, You 907 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:11.679 file it's expected. You know, people are spoiled, they're expecting winners. 908 00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.280 That happened, and you see, you know with Bob Huggins, 909 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.599 you know mid Crona to some extent, I mean you 910 00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.239 follow these guys, they create what they call. I guess 911 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.639 the mode, the method, the brand, you know, just the 912 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.199 way it is a culture, that's what it is. And 913 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.360 if you don't stay at that level, you're gone to 914 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.880 These coaches are it's thinnit. They make good money, but 915 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:33.840 they earn that money. 916 00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:34.719 They really do well. 917 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.360 We will see how the Xavier Musketeers fare and their 918 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.960 play in game. It will be on here tomorrow night 919 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.679 at this time in that very. 920 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.000 First amount of money that I heard, like something like 921 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.000 eighty five to two. 922 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.199 Hundred and fifty bucks a ticket. Did you hear that? 923 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:50.239 It's done? 924 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:50.519 Real? 925 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:51.039 Well? 926 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:52.159 I can't believe it. 927 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.000 It's part of the NCAA tournament. Whether we like the 928 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.360 play in game or not. I've never been particularly a 929 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.079 fan of it. I like the sixty four field and 930 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.159 thought it should have stayed stayed at that point. You know, 931 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.320 I wanted to ask you about your friend Buck, your 932 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.199 partner on your Sunday, But I. 933 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.519 Want to sell you why why I hate the tournament? Okay, 934 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.199 you want to know why? 935 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:13.639 Sure? 936 00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:17.599 Because I can't find where true TV is. I hate 937 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.199 this time of year. They got these freaking games on 938 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:21.280 channels I never watched. 939 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:21.960 I never heard of. 940 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.559 It's going to take me a half a day to 941 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:24.559 find True TV. 942 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.239 That's all. Let's tell you know, all. 943 00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.239 Right, do you ever watch True TV? 944 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.960 And iball, I know exactly where it is on the 945 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.760 spectrum plan, so I. 946 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:36.800 Think it's channel forty one. 947 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:44.960 That's correct, that's correct one right spectrum. So so your 948 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.920 problems are over. Now, what I was going to ask 949 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.440 you about your friend Buck played football at North Carolina 950 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.840 before he played in the NFL, and you were talking 951 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.320 about how Wes Miller was like a one or two 952 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.519 choice for the head coaching job last time around, and 953 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.880 he what does Bucks say about Bill Belichick and Michael 954 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.000 Lombardi being in charge of North Carolina football? 955 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.039 He loves it. I mean, he just he puts North 956 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.559 Carolina on them out. But he was shocked because, you know, 957 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.239 the previous. 958 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:18.199 Coach was as old or older than. 959 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.400 Bill Belichick, and everybody said they need to go younger 960 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.960 to relate to these players with the nil but you know, 961 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:25.800 and there was he said there was a tougal war 962 00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:29.119 because the athletics a rat didn't want Belichick, but the 963 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.440 alums did. And the alums went out and basically the 964 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.639 alums have the wallet and the pocketbook and the money 965 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.039 and the cash and they speak, and you know, money talks, 966 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.519 So they wanted Belichick. 967 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.920 It's going to be really interesting to see. 968 00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.960 You know, if he could take his mode of coaching 969 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.679 from the NFL to the college level. I think the 970 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.199 game is the same basically, but can you relate to 971 00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:51.719 those players? But if he can't do it, his girlfriend can. 972 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:56.159 I was gonna say, Bill Belichick's girlfriend instantly makes him younger. Andy, 973 00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:02.280 just no doubt. You know, you plug into that fountain 974 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.440 of youths and I'm telling you what it makes the 975 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.480 world of difference. Not that I would know. 976 00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:09.000 Well, that's what I did. 977 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.400 And when I married, I married in the cradle, you know. 978 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:11.880 Yeah. 979 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.039 Well, I mean my wife is a little bit more 980 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.320 than eight years younger than me, so I guess she. 981 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.280 She with you. 982 00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.079 When people call me a cradle robber, she says, no, 983 00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.800 I'm the grave robber, which. 984 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:26.639 Is oh my goodness, I know, wow wow. 985 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.760 As long as she's looking over me, I guess I'm okay. 986 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:30.360 I don't know. 987 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.159 No, I know your wife was tremendous doing the picks 988 00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.119 during the football season on Sundays. 989 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.360 You know she did those pictures. Does she have any 990 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.599 outside information? 991 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.519 Well, basically inside information what she thinks with the NCAA 992 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.119 basketball She hates basketball. 993 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.719 The only the only time it's on in our house 994 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.079 is either when she's taking a nap or I get 995 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:56.159 special dispensation from her. Okay, you can turn it on 996 00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.119 for a little while, but we're not watching it all day. 997 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:02.880 She's got a quick question for you. I know we're 998 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.239 running out of time, surely, but if you went to. 999 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.480 Pick the five biggest sports days of the year, I'm 1000 00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.760 going to run of these by you and tell you mine, Okay, 1001 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.320 because it was like this past Sunday selection. Sunday is 1002 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.079 one of the biggest ones of the year, and the 1003 00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.760 Monday Night NT double A basketball final, New Year's Eve, 1004 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.360 the NT double A football final. 1005 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:22.519 Those are three, the. 1006 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.920 NFL Draft and maybe Opening Day for the NFL. To me, 1007 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.440 those are the five biggest sports days of the year. 1008 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.840 Baseball is not even one of them, not even maybe 1009 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.079 in Cincinnati Opening Day. Other than that, nationally the five 1010 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.480 biggest sports days of the. 1011 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.039 Year, it's the Super Bowls number one, and everything else 1012 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:41.400 pales in comparison. 1013 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:44.000 You know, I don't even think I put the super 1014 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:44.639 Bowl in there. 1015 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:48.719 I should have put the super Bowl in the year, 1016 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.440 not in an opening the NFL, not just not. 1017 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.840 The stupid halftime show either, just the game. I just 1018 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.280 want to watch the game, Andy, I don't need all 1019 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:57.760 the puna. 1020 00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:58.280 You know what. 1021 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.920 I don't know why they waste so much time, energy 1022 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.239 and money trying to get a guess for the halftime show, 1023 00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.519 no matter who it may be, because people want to 1024 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.880 just walk around and stretch a little bit, maybe get 1025 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:11.039 a drink or go to the toilet. Forget about halftime shows. 1026 00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:12.960 And if players hate it, I'll tell you why, only 1027 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.840 because it's so much longer. It's a real long half time. 1028 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.159 The only time players that have told me they've taken 1029 00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.440 showers and changed their uniform at halftime. 1030 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:22.519 The only way I'm going to be excited about a 1031 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.679 super Bowl halftime show is when you're the guest, Dandy, 1032 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.159 and you've been mine and you've been lovely, Thank. 1033 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.280 You so much, and a little stand up at halftime. 1034 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.880 Well not for too long, then your back will get out, 1035 00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.800 all right, Thank you, Furman, thank you, Take care, God blessed. 1036 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.719 I appreciate see you sports for the out of sorts. 1037 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.199 How about the wild Man, the sports Commando, the original 1038 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.800 billboard sitter and now our our pontificator and sooth and 1039 00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:56.719 seeker of sports wisdom. Wild Man, Walker, wild Man, what's 1040 00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:00.239 going on? And the words of Johnny Carson in a 1041 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:08.320 solid bim, the great Kardak returns. So what have we got? 1042 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.159 What are you? Weller? 1043 00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:10.599 What things? 1044 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.559 But a lot of things pergolating, but one of it 1045 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:18.039 has has my dander up? Are the Cincinnati Reds are 1046 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:22.199 going to have as entertainment this year? One snoop dog 1047 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.280 come to a great American ballpark. Now, let me tell 1048 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.480 you something about this guy. He's a cop hater. Okay, 1049 00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.880 he's got a rap sheet a mile long. Okay, he's 1050 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.199 brained dead from smoking pot. And this is family entertainment. 1051 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.920 Bring a snoop dog to the ballpark. And here's something else, Gary, Jeff, 1052 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.000 are they going to turn a deaf ear to all 1053 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.159 the pots smoking going down at the ballpark when it's 1054 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.239 illegal to smoke in the ballpark that day? 1055 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.320 I mean, this is just idiotic. 1056 00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.960 Who's signed off on that, the thinking that this was 1057 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:49.960 a smart idea? 1058 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.239 Well, you know, wild Man, I will tell you, as 1059 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:56.920 a former marijuana smoker, I don't anymore, because why I 1060 00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.480 like being present in my life and not being clouded 1061 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.000 over by just some funk that misdirects my attention to 1062 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:10.440 the right places. Uh So, I have noticed ever since 1063 00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:17.239 they legalized recreational weed. Anytime I'm in Cincinnati or Ohio, 1064 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:22.639 which is rare, thankfully, the pervasive smell of pot smoke 1065 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.559 everywhere just about knock you down. And I can't stand it. 1066 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:27.960 Now. 1067 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.079 I understand I heard that. I've heard that from a 1068 00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:35.840 lot of people. But to be in the ballpark. Number one, 1069 00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:41.519 you can't smoke cigarettes or cigars. Why would you be 1070 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.440 able to Why would you think you'd be able to 1071 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.119 smoke pots? Simply because Snoop Dogg is performing at GABP. 1072 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.320 Why do you think that's gonna happen? I think a 1073 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.159 lot of I think a lot of people. I think 1074 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.159 a lot of people are gonna get thrown out if 1075 00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.039 they if they do that, and they should. 1076 00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.400 If the police an'll turn it, that bear to it. 1077 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.960 Who knows, who knows what's going on down there? And 1078 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.079 of course the media in this town hasn't hasn't pushed 1079 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.639 the button on anybody there at city Hall about the 1080 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.800 situation coming up? Are you going to force the law 1081 00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:12.840 or are you gonna look the other way? Because it's 1082 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.000 Snoop Dogg, who again, who again is a cop hater. 1083 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:18.920 He's a cop hater. He's got to rap. 1084 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.440 Sheet a mile long. I couldn't I couldn't tell you 1085 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:23.079 what songs he did know because I don't listen to 1086 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:23.559 that crap. 1087 00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.280 But he's really it's not. Nobody cares about him anymore. 1088 00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:27.000 Okay. 1089 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:28.639 And then, and like I said, he's got to rap 1090 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.159 sheet a mile long. And Gary, Jeff, did you did 1091 00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:31.800 you see him? 1092 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:35.079 He's become a wild man. You're forgetting something. He has 1093 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:39.239 become in many circles of media darling over the last 1094 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.960 few years. And you know what it really it really 1095 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:48.480 started with his uh, with his participation in the Olympics 1096 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.960 coverage in these last summer Olympics, Snoop was he does. 1097 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.960 Nothing for me. And I think it's a stupid decision 1098 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:55.559 by the Reds. 1099 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.760 I think it's a stupid decision. They had to rethink 1100 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.719 it and just bag it. Because again that pot smoking. 1101 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:03.559 I just want to know, are they going to enforce 1102 00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.199 the law? And I like smoking pot now and then 1103 00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.679 it's been a while, but are they going to force 1104 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.199 the law because you can't smoke cigarettes there, you can't 1105 00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:12.199 smoke cigars there. 1106 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.800 You can't vait there. Are they going to enforce the law? 1107 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:16.960 I'm sure they will. I mean, I don't know any 1108 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.760 reason why they would not. It is the law after all. 1109 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.760 And if you're so worried about Snoop being a police hater, 1110 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.480 why do you think the police would turn a blind 1111 00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:33.320 eye if he inspired or incited some kind of lawbreaking 1112 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:35.400 while he's performing at GABP. 1113 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.199 I don't think there's as the police hater, because I 1114 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:42.400 heard him saying, I've a few years ago a crowd 1115 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.440 that law riled up af the police after the police 1116 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.519 come on, join with me, up the police, up the police. 1117 00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:49.599 I heard it. 1118 00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.039 I think there's been way too much of that in 1119 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.360 our society over the last five to ten years, you know, 1120 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.960 going back to like Ferguson and the Michael Brown thing, 1121 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:03.039 the hands up, don't shoot lie that they told and 1122 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:07.800 convinced people that the police murdered this young, large sized 1123 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.559 black man just for being black, when in fact he 1124 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.480 was attacking and trying to get the officer's gun away. 1125 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.000 And the George Floyd thing. We had three times as 1126 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.920 much fentanyl in his system as a lethal dose and 1127 00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.920 wound up not being able to breathe, and it was 1128 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.239 proven that it wasn't because of the chokehold that Derek 1129 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:31.880 Shauvin had on this guy who was another rap sheet, 1130 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.960 a mile long kind of person. Timothy Thomas and Cincinnati. 1131 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.239 You know, the seventeen year old with as many warrants 1132 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.159 his years under his belt and he's running away from 1133 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.400 the cops and it looks like he's pulling out something 1134 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.639 from his waistband. It wasn't a gun, but you know 1135 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.920 that caused all the riots and everything, and they had 1136 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:55.320 anti cop sentiment that you're talking about. I am so 1137 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.920 glad that we still have dedicated police officers. We don't 1138 00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.440 have as many as we need on the streets. And 1139 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:04.320 part of that, I don't know who. 1140 00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:06.199 We'd want to be a Cincinnati police officer to put 1141 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:07.440 up with the crap they got to put. 1142 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:07.880 Up with today. 1143 00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.119 You know, I agree, And. 1144 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.039 Those guys, those guys, those guys deserve to be paid 1145 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:14.039 twice what they're getting. 1146 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.800 Any public figure that is going around saying f the police, 1147 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:22.320 you're right, doesn't need to be honored or highlighted or celebrated. 1148 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:23.360 But I'm just telling you. 1149 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.320 And the reds are highlighting this guy. That's all I'm saying, 1150 00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.559 that's all I'm saying. I think it's a stupid move. 1151 00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.159 I'm telling you it's going to be a wildly successful 1152 00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.639 night at GABP because now it's not good. 1153 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.400 So I'm gonna go to church every day that week 1154 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:38.679 and pray that it rains cats of dogs and molasses. 1155 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:43.480 And molasses too. Yeah, the cats and dogs are one thing, 1156 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.079 But are you gonna throw that that sticky stuff in there? 1157 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.360 Then nobody will be able to get around to anything 1158 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:49.599 that week. 1159 00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.480 All right, all right, let's let's move on to the 1160 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.199 NCAA tournament. Well, LA fourteen fourteen SEC tournaments. Teams are 1161 00:59:58.199 --> 00:59:58.800 in the tournament. 1162 00:59:58.800 --> 00:59:59.519 That's a record. 1163 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.000 Of course, I can't. I can't tell you exactly my 1164 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:05.559 final four because I couldn't. I can't print out something 1165 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.760 on my phone. I don't have the capability. But I'll 1166 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:09.920 give you the two the two teams to play with 1167 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.960 the title, Duke and Michigan State, and Duke to win 1168 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:14.360 the national title. 1169 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:16.400 Duke to win the national title. 1170 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.000 And also, well, when we're talking about this, Rick Pattino, 1171 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.960 he becomes the first head coach, all right, to lead 1172 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:28.159 six different schools to the nc Double A Tournament and Gary, Jeff, 1173 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.639 I don't know if you remember this or not. Back 1174 01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:35.039 in twenty twenty one, when when you see got rid 1175 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:38.639 of John Brannon, I was the first to say Bearcat 1176 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:41.960 should hire Rick Patino, They should hire Rick Patino right 1177 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.639 now because he had not signed yet with Iona. 1178 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:48.519 Of course, you see, has no vision, They have no guts. 1179 01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:50.840 That would have been the greatest thing for that for 1180 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:51.519 that school. 1181 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.119 Could they have afforded Could they have afforded Could they 1182 01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:55.320 have afforded Rick Patino? 1183 01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:57.880 Oh, they could afford it. They could afford it. Now, 1184 01:00:57.920 --> 01:00:58.360 don't get me. 1185 01:00:58.360 --> 01:00:59.199 They could afford it. 1186 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.880 What I'm what I ownA wasn't paying him that much. 1187 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.320 There's no way Iona was paying him anything. 1188 01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:06.519 And they had the chance. And this goes back to 1189 01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:07.440 the same thing. 1190 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:08.159 With the Bengals. 1191 01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.159 When the when the Red when the Reds. 1192 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:13.239 Could have hired Terry Francona, they had Terry Francona out 1193 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.039 there waiting in the wings when they decided to go 1194 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.360 with Dustin Baker and I didn't win nothing. 1195 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:19.000 They could have hired Terry frank Combe. 1196 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.360 This town has no vision when it comes to in 1197 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.199 the sports business. I don't know what what it is 1198 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.119 that they always like they're afraid of all either gonna 1199 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:31.920 offend somebody or you know, like Trevor Bauer. Okay, Trevor Bauer. 1200 01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.039 I can't believe that guy hasn't got a job. 1201 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:35.639 You're gonna tell me that. 1202 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.719 He couldn't help some of these teams, and we know 1203 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.480 he's blackballed, but still you can't tell me that Trevor 1204 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.239 Bauer couldn't help couldn't help some of. 1205 01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:47.960 These kings in the case. In the case of Trevor Bauer, 1206 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:52.360 it turns out that many of these allegations simply weren't 1207 01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.159 what they were billed to be, and he wasn't really 1208 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:58.320 guilty of any crime at all. But he got black 1209 01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:00.920 balled by the me too movement or the I call 1210 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.239 it the uh the pounds the commissioner. 1211 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:05.960 He came out ripped on the commissioner. 1212 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.320 Yeah, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot the name here 1213 01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.159 for you. The Bearcats had a chance to hire one 1214 01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:16.199 Dion Sanders, who was out there. Can you imagine the 1215 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:18.400 the children the football program and they able to brought 1216 01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.079 key on Sanders here, but no, they looked looked the 1217 01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.199 other way. We probably can't bring it in here. It'd 1218 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:25.239 be too controversial. 1219 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:26.480 Let's a trouble with this town. 1220 01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:29.440 They're always worried about controversy instead of learning about winning 1221 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:33.280 or seeking outside the box. The Reds have thought outside 1222 01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:37.119 the box for years. Well, thought outside the box for years. 1223 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:42.800 They finally got I finally got Terry Francona though as 1224 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.519 the manager, so maybe. 1225 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.800 Yeah, it only took him. How many years? 1226 01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.159 She only took him? How many years? All right, wild Man, 1227 01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.719 hang on, let's do Let's do another segment and we'll 1228 01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:55.880 get final thoughts on Bengals signings that have happened now, Yes, 1229 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.760 from we'll get to that from the wild next on 1230 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:04.920 the nightcap on SEVENLW about how people are so fired 1231 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:09.360 up about or some people are really really thinking that 1232 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:13.760 Cincinnati needs to build that new arena to replace the 1233 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.239 one downtown and the one downtown on the river. I'm sorry, 1234 01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:21.039 whatever it's called is really not suitable for NCAA tournament 1235 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:25.079 action or anything else other than minor league hockey and 1236 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.199 the occasional circus. But you were talking about how some 1237 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:33.760 people think that if you build this new arena, then 1238 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.840 we'll have an NBA franchise in Cincinnati again. And you 1239 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:43.480 were just detailing how many cities have been the NBA 1240 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.079 has left, and how many they had gone back to 1241 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.280 I think the answer is zero. Is that correct? That's correct? 1242 01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.199 And the Royal's left here in the seventy two thanks 1243 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.800 to Joe Addlson and Bob Coosey who ruined a franchise. 1244 01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:57.000 We'll never get an NBA team here. 1245 01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:57.599 Number one. 1246 01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.679 It would be it would be an expansion team and 1247 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.920 we've in the basement and the fans would get all 1248 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.960 mad because they couldn't win for the next twenty years. 1249 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:05.599 I may look at the Pacers. I mean they've been 1250 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.039 around forever. They haven't won anything. They've been the finals, 1251 01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:10.480 They've been to the finals once because of Larry Bird. 1252 01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:12.679 They're not going to get an NBA franchise. Ant how 1253 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:14.199 much tickets would cost Gary? 1254 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.639 You have you have any idea how much tickets would cost? 1255 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.320 You go to an NBA NBA game here and Cincinna. 1256 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.199 It's not going to happen. You've got three good college 1257 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:23.480 programs in town. It's never ever happened. I mean, you 1258 01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.400 want to build the arena, Hey have at it with 1259 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.079 your own money, not with one dime for me, Pow, 1260 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:29.480 not with one dime for me. 1261 01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.679 And because I live in Hamlet County. Yeah, you've given 1262 01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.800 them one dime. If it's one damn dime. 1263 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.599 If it's such a good business idea, then come up 1264 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.760 with the money yourself and don't expect any public funds. 1265 01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:44.440 I agree, absolutely, Well, the problem is with with the 1266 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.920 new any new construction like that, you've got to develop 1267 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:54.239 the infrastructure around it, roads and the like, crosswalks, sidewalks, 1268 01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:56.840 all of that, and the city would have to pay 1269 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:58.719 for some of that if they decided. 1270 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:00.840 Well, and I agree that, you know, I think that 1271 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:02.559 if they're going to ever they're going to do it, 1272 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.000 you tear down the building, the cyclones go away for 1273 01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:06.880 a year, or go try to play somewhere else where. 1274 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:08.719 I don't know where where they would play. 1275 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.519 And just you know, build it down on the river, 1276 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.679 because I think that's where it should be, down on 1277 01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.599 the river, not out in the west Ent or something 1278 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.119 like that. But I'll believe it when I see it 1279 01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:18.280 will probably be all dead and gone and we really 1280 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:18.800 won't matter. 1281 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:20.239 Now let's get onto the Bengals. 1282 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:23.320 Let let's get on and the signings this week that 1283 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:24.280 we're expected by. 1284 01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.079 I love the signings. I love the signings of T. 1285 01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.320 Higgins and Jamar Chase. They got what they wanted. The 1286 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.320 Bengals here. You know Joe Burrow, and I know I've 1287 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:35.760 heard people say that Joe Burrow held them hostage or 1288 01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.159 Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow wants to win, okay, and then 1289 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:39.599 the Bengals want to win. 1290 01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:40.440 And they thought this out. 1291 01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:43.800 We may have to score forty points every game, okay 1292 01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.119 because of the defense. But now the Bengals can focus 1293 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:48.639 on fix and the defense because we've got an off 1294 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.199 The Bengals got an offense, got to maybe tinker with 1295 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.360 the offensive line. But I'm I'm so happy that they 1296 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.280 got these two guys under contract, and I knew they 1297 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.320 were going to do it. Of course, there's the critics 1298 01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.599 of Bengal fans. They wouldn't be happy we won the 1299 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.239 Super One by forty eight to nothing. We find fault 1300 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:03.719 in at some of those people, but you know what, 1301 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:05.840 I'm so glad that the Begals got this done. Now 1302 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:09.039 we can focus on maybe getting another lignement up front 1303 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.280 to protect Joe and also work on the defense. I 1304 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.519 think it's a great, great, great, great, great move for 1305 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.159 the city, great move for the city. 1306 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.840 Do you think that the injuries, uh specifically to t 1307 01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.440 Higgins last year were tied to the fact that the 1308 01:06:22.639 --> 01:06:26.440 contract was unsettled. Do you think that that might have been? 1309 01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:28.280 That might have been and then he only got you know, 1310 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.559 he only got two years guaranteed two years guaranteed money. 1311 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.559 But you know that that goes on with behind closed doors. 1312 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:35.880 And I don't really care about that, And. 1313 01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.719 Most fans don't understand the nuts and bolts of negotiations 1314 01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.920 and the salary cap and why they've got them signed. Gary, Jeff, 1315 01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.800 Let's move on. They're signing their ear not going anywhere. 1316 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.639 We got just Secy as a tight end. We got 1317 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:49.639 another tight end we signed up. We got a good 1318 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.000 running game. We may score forty points a game. We 1319 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:54.840 may have the best offense and the natal Football league, 1320 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.519 but we got to fix the defense. Fix the defense. 1321 01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.760 Let's look elsewhere in the NFL real quickly with the 1322 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.280 signings that have happened here during the offseason. Wild Man, 1323 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:04.760 do you think Josh Allen is worth two hundred and 1324 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.960 fifty million dollars guaranteed for the Buffalo Bills. 1325 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.039 Oh, I don't know if you can say anybody's worth 1326 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.480 that kind of money, But if they're going to offer 1327 01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:14.480 it to you, are you gonna turn it down? Does 1328 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.239 any movie star? Is any movie star worth fifty million 1329 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:19.519 dollars of film? I mean, come on, I mean, if 1330 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:21.400 they're gonna pay it, you take it. And they love 1331 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.880 Josh Allen and Buffalo I love. They've got problems there too, 1332 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.760 and they're not Have they ever won a Super Bowl? 1333 01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:29.119 No, they're four. 1334 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.760 Times lost, But they they love Josh Allen. They got 1335 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:33.920 a good offense, they got the money to pay it. 1336 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:37.199 So you sign up, sign and you keep Josh Allen around. 1337 01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.840 What about Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers wild Man. 1338 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.800 Well, that is really yeah, that was a big time 1339 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.239 Right now he's in the limbo. He may go to Minnesota. 1340 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:51.079 Who knows where he's gonna go. He's gonna play somewhere. 1341 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:53.199 He's gonna play some more. Well, and that's gonna be 1342 01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:56.239 a shame. I know, I know, because this is a 1343 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.159 guy who just doesn't realize that his career was over 1344 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.239 about three years ago, and he needs to. 1345 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:03.079 You've got an. 1346 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.639 Aaron Rodgers, don't you. Even though he threw for almost three. 1347 01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:09.039 Thousand yards with a lousy with with a lousy football team, 1348 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:10.800 You've got an end for him for some reason. I 1349 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.679 mean he's only a four time MVP, but you did 1350 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:15.800 he did he like turn you down for an autograph 1351 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:16.880 or something all the way. 1352 01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:20.920 No, listen, this this happens way too often with great 1353 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:25.039 players who've already established themselves as Hall of Famers and 1354 01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:29.359 Super Bowl champs and the like. You just can't. 1355 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.680 They don't know. They don't know when to colchy, when 1356 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:32.199 to quit. 1357 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.359 And that's all I've got against Aaron Rodgers. The guy 1358 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:36.279 needs to. 1359 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:38.199 Not you. 1360 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.079 He'll decide when he does not want to, but he 1361 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:43.000 feels he can still play. Gu Yet I just told 1362 01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.399 you you'll have a through for three thousand yards. 1363 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.159 I think with the lousy New York Yets, the defensive 1364 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.520 pass rushers and uh and the ends, the defensive ends 1365 01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:55.520 will decide for Aaron Rodgers, and it will happen very 1366 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.560 very quickly. Believe me, it's not meided. 1367 01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:01.439 Oh God, before I let you go, I've got to 1368 01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.199 give this shout out here? Can I do this personal 1369 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.760 shout out? You're really gonna like this? I want to 1370 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:10.920 think A grets the ud Football Flyers freshman Paul Kelly 1371 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.000 for making All American as a punt returner. Now Paul 1372 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.359 Kelly is the grandson of a great UC athlete. His 1373 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.640 name is on the Ring of Honor at Nippert Stadium, 1374 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:26.520 Jim Kelly Senior. And he's the nephew of current you 1375 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:30.960 see football analyst Jim Kelly Junior. Now, this kid obviously 1376 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:35.680 has some great athletic bloodlines pedigree. But congrats to UD 1377 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.119 football Flyers freshman Paul Kelly from making All American as 1378 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.279 a punt returner. Maybe the UC Bearcats should look at 1379 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.359 him and possibly bring him down here and have him 1380 01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:46.079 blame for UC. 1381 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:49.920 Well, that would be symmetry, that would be full circle. 1382 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:53.039 I'd love it. That's a good idea. Yeah, all right, 1383 01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:55.920 all right, wild man, gear up. We've got at least 1384 01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:59.359 one more week of Nightcaps coming and then the Reds 1385 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.960 usurpa all summer long, pretty much. So I look forward 1386 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:08.079 to our conversation next week and day. 1387 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:10.520 Yeah that we should have a firm hand on how 1388 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:11.520 the Reds are shaping up. 1389 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:14.119 Well, we'll just be three days out from opening day 1390 01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:18.000 on next Monday or Tuesday night, so yeah, absolutely, all right, 1391 01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:20.439 Wi amya Walker on the Nightcap. Thank you so much, 1392 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:23.039 my friend, and we will talk to you soon. Twenty 1393 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:26.439 five Here a jet as we head into the last hour. 1394 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:30.960 Our next guest is an anti feminist attorney, and that 1395 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:33.960 grabbed my ear right there. And I like that author 1396 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:38.800 and columnist who is the author of, among other things, 1397 01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:44.359 the book Silent Suffering Poems of Pain and Purpose. And Leslie, 1398 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.600 I think we have spoken before, but it's good to 1399 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:48.199 have you back on the show for a few minutes 1400 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:52.600 tonight to talk about the poison auto pin of the 1401 01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:59.239 Biden administration and it's legality. I know that the auto 1402 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:04.239 pin goes back as far as the Truman administration, and 1403 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:06.600 there was some law there was created during the Bush 1404 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.880 administration in two thousand and five which says the autopin 1405 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:15.079 essentially is a perfectly legal way to sign executive orders 1406 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.840 and the like in certain cases. But it's great to 1407 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:19.520 having the show. 1408 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:22.319 How are you doing well? Thanks so much for. 1409 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:27.840 Having me You bet so? Can President Trump legally void 1410 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.680 any of Joe Biden's pardons or any of the things 1411 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.399 he signed or didn't sign with an auto pen? What 1412 01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:36.640 do we know about this from a legal standpoint? 1413 01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:40.840 Sure so, from a legal standpoint, I kind of what 1414 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.520 you mentioned is more or less correct. That it is 1415 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.960 true that using the use of autopen states back quite 1416 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.680 a number of years now, there is a distinction. I 1417 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:51.760 think Alanders who has actually made this point, that there's 1418 01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:57.319 a distinction between signing actual bills like legislation rather than 1419 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.680 other documents. But I think the bigger issue, frankly that's 1420 01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:04.800 much more live here, is related to Biden's mental capacity 1421 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:07.239 at the time of signing some of these documents. So 1422 01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:11.359 as his presidency continued for the four years, I don't 1423 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:13.680 think there's very many people who now would argue that 1424 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:16.359 he was the same mental capacity even in twenty twenty 1425 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:19.359 that he was in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, 1426 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:24.279 or after he withdrew from running for the presidency again. 1427 01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.760 So I think the real concern, bigger, broader concern, is 1428 01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:33.960 did did Joe Biden his use of auto pen for example? 1429 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.560 Was that ever done without really his knowledge as to 1430 01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:39.039 what he was signing? I believe was Mike Johnsons You 1431 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.079 mentioned there were some documents that was unclear that Biden 1432 01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.600 remembered he had signed. The Attorney General for the state 1433 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.399 of Missouri is also concerned about this. You know, sign 1434 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:54.600 signing executive orders or other papers have legal effect without 1435 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:57.000 an awareness, you know, I mean, you have had the 1436 01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.560 mental capacity to sign off on these things. And I 1437 01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.760 think that's the deeper issue at play here. I don't 1438 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.520 think it'll be being brought up, you know, and it 1439 01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:06.840 hasn't for you know, the decades that it's been in place. 1440 01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:10.239 Well, I think with the Biden presidency, we saw an 1441 01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:14.640 example of what America had seen previously with the Woodrow 1442 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:19.199 Wilson administration, where his wife, basically Edith, was in charge 1443 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.920 of the government. Edith was never elected because of his incapacitation, 1444 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:30.520 Wilson could not really be considered to be a cognizant 1445 01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:36.039 or president president. And you're right twenty twenty, I mean, 1446 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:38.960 before the election, this this point was being made by 1447 01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:43.199 Donald Trump and by people who knew that old Joe 1448 01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:47.279 had rounded the corner already. The fact, the fact that 1449 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.319 he in fact leslie when Joe Biden when it was 1450 01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:54.399 announced that he had been appointed president because I don't 1451 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.039 want to say elected, but anyway, when it was announced 1452 01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:00.640 that he was going to be president, my bet was 1453 01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:04.319 he wouldn't make it past twenty two or twenty three. 1454 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:07.880 I mean, I didn't think it would be dragged out 1455 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.720 into twenty twenty four when he finally dropped out of 1456 01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:15.239 the race and became a persona non grata everywhere in 1457 01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:19.239 the media and in the White House and in every 1458 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.880 other respect. They were still hiding him basically in the 1459 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.520 basement or in Delaware or in that Rehobas Beach. And 1460 01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.359 the fact that there's no way that he had the 1461 01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:35.039 mental faculties to know certain things that are nuanced and 1462 01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:40.520 complicated that he was signing. I think that's although being 1463 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.279 the family guy, the head of the Biden crime family, 1464 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:48.079 he definitely wanted his relative's pardons, so he might have 1465 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:49.359 known he was signing. 1466 01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:53.640 Those right, quite quite likely, And you know, I guess 1467 01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.359 that's something that's gone on for quite quite a long 1468 01:14:56.399 --> 01:15:00.560 time in his career. But again, it's very I think, 1469 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.840 very distressing, and it should really disturb the public that 1470 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.119 for a number of years it really is unclear to 1471 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:11.199 what degree the president had the literally the cognitive capacity 1472 01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:11.640 to govern. 1473 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.960 That's very just should distress the public. 1474 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.279 And I think that that that's where that line of questioning, 1475 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:20.079 in my opinion, will go. Was the appoint in his 1476 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:24.479 presidency where he had declined so you know, so dramatically 1477 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.239 as to be incapable of faithfully executing the duties of 1478 01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.479 the presidency and is there any way Obviously, when you 1479 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.039 get into more technical issues that are very difficult, you know, 1480 01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.199 is there any way to prove this? These are the 1481 01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:37.640 type of things that are very difficult to make a 1482 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:40.359 legal showing of, but are in the court of public 1483 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:42.800 opinion something that I think should absolutely be raised, not 1484 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.159 that they should be raised in a court of law, 1485 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.520 and I would suspect that that's likely at that is 1486 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:52.039 something that appears a Trump administration is pursuing. But you know, 1487 01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:54.079 I think the court of public opinion is also somewhere 1488 01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:56.720 that that Trump is waging. Is more that that's actually 1489 01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.640 very important to the public be aware of. Frankly, the 1490 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:03.159 fact that Democratic Party, I mean really could not care 1491 01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:07.399 less whether or not the individual representative party and was 1492 01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:10.960 the president was actually capable in any way to perform 1493 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:12.840 a you know. 1494 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.399 What I think. Actually it's more to the point that 1495 01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:18.479 they were they were welcoming someone who wasn't capable, so 1496 01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.760 they could move him anywhere on the chessboard they wanted 1497 01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:24.279 at any time, and he just got her altbing it is. 1498 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:29.039 It's extremely disturbing. Well, Leslie Corbly, we need to set 1499 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:30.880 up a date to talk some more, because I really 1500 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.279 enjoyed speaking with you for a few minutes tonight. 1501 01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:35.000 Thanks so much. 1502 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.039 I'd love you anytime, all right, fantast Leslie krbly offer, 1503 01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:43.560 author of Silent Suffering, and maybe we'll talk a little 1504 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:47.279 bit about the book next time, too fantastic thinks so much. 1505 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:51.640 Thank you. The nightcap continues with some tax advice and 1506 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:56.000 this guy says, pay zero taxes. Got my attention. Mark 1507 01:16:56.079 --> 01:17:00.000 Kwan up next, So I'm eating this delicious? 1508 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:02.600 What about the poor people who can't play? 1509 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:02.800 So? 1510 01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:04.439 Oh it was a cheap suck? 1511 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:08.039 Sure, use your privileged to bible the cheap sun just 1512 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:09.279 trying to tell a joke. 1513 01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:11.520 You's something funny about starving the poor? 1514 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:17.039 What Sometimes it's not safe to say anything, but not 1515 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:18.159 with Eddie and Rocky. 1516 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.560 They want to hear what you have to say. 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And on that topic, we have a financial expert, 1529 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.880 author of four books, including the latest, Be Smart, Pay 1530 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.800 Zero Taxes, Mark Kwan. Welcome to the show. How are you. 1531 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:05.960 I'm great, man. 1532 01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.960 I'm sitting in Tennessee, beautiful day, enjoying the day and 1533 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:09.920 joying a couple of coffees. 1534 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:12.039 So I'm doing great man. Thanks for us. We're at 1535 01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.920 in Tennessee because I live for years in the Nashville 1536 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.000 and Middle Tennessee area, and I love it. 1537 01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.359 I left the state of California about a year a 1538 01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:24.239 year ago or so and got out of that mess 1539 01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:28.439 and moved to Knoxville, Tennessee. So absolutly love Knoxville. What 1540 01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:29.279 a great place to live. 1541 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.239 Actually, well, yeah, you're you're there in the Smokies in 1542 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:34.439 the eastern part of the state. I always tell people, 1543 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:37.640 and we'll get to the topic. I swear. I always 1544 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:43.000 tell people that Tennessee is really three different states geographically 1545 01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:46.720 and topography. You know, in the topography the West is 1546 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:50.039 all flat and bluffs. Middle Tennessee is rolling hills kind 1547 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:53.479 of like here in the Ohio River basin where I 1548 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:57.800 live now, and East Tennessee beautiful smoky mountains. The Appalachians 1549 01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:01.560 are just gorgeous and you're right in the heart of them. Okay, so, 1550 01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.560 how do you be smart and pay zero taxes? That's 1551 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.680 a loaded question, gives a lot of answers, but go. 1552 01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:12.439 Ahead, Okay, good, Well, I guess maybe I'll tell you 1553 01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.920 a lot about my background. Is I'm I was. 1554 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:15.399 I was. 1555 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:19.359 I'm actually officially a high school and college dropout. Was 1556 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.159 I left Canada twenty five years ago. I was in 1557 01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:26.079 business and finance school for business and financial advisor. I 1558 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.039 left Canada and I came to United States for the 1559 01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.920 American dream with a penny in my pocket. Spent some 1560 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.840 time as a private investigator in Los Angeles, UH, and 1561 01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:40.079 then got into finances heavily, and I was a financial 1562 01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:44.960 advisor and investment advisor. I was training financial advisors like 1563 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.279 i'd be a guy talking on stage training financial advisors. 1564 01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:50.520 And I was actually the financial advisor for a number 1565 01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:53.520 of CPAs. So spent a lot of time in the industry. 1566 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:59.439 And it was coronavirus when I just a lot used 1567 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:01.800 to do a lot of seaking engagements, and during coronavirus 1568 01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:04.720 they all got canceled. So I was sitting down and saying, 1569 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:06.880 what am I going to do now? So some friends said, 1570 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:09.880 you should start a financial education company. You're passionate about that. 1571 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.159 So I said, oh, that sounds good. So we started, 1572 01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:16.399 and we started going down the rabbit hole of tax avoidance, 1573 01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:21.560 but specifically something that any any ordinary American can do right, 1574 01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:24.920 just because my family are brick layers and that's sort 1575 01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:27.880 of like hard, hard working people. And yeah, we came 1576 01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:32.199 across the strategies called it's the subtitle is used to buy, borrow, 1577 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:36.000 dye strategy to get rich and stay rich. And the 1578 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:41.319 very wealthy people they just buy assets. They never sell 1579 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:44.079 them or other than sell them which would trigger the taxes. 1580 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:48.000 They take loans from each asset to buy other assets. 1581 01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:50.920 By taking loans, they don't have to work for the money. 1582 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.960 They just continue to do this buying and borrowing, and 1583 01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.920 then when they die, they pass all those assets to 1584 01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.520 their family with no taxes. So it's a way to 1585 01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:02.600 circums the US tax system. It's not a new strategy 1586 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:05.479 spur around for decades. It just I've spent the last 1587 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:09.760 four years teaching this to ordinary Americans. We've caught it 1588 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:15.560 over for over five hundred different Americans, mostly ordinary Americans, 1589 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:17.800 and we've proven it weren't work. And you can actually 1590 01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:19.800 start it with one hundred dollars in a brokerage account, 1591 01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:20.760 So anybody can do it. 1592 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:24.399 Wow, one hundred bucks in a brokerage account and can 1593 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.880 be on your way. Now you're talking about to buy, 1594 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.680 borrow and die strategy that leads to not having to 1595 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:34.600 pay any taxes. Essentially, so you buy a property or 1596 01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:40.399 you buy whatever, you buy an asset, and instead of 1597 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:44.119 selling that asset at a profit, which would trigger the taxes, 1598 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.520 you borrow against that and buy something else. And how 1599 01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:51.079 long can you continue this? I guess as long as 1600 01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:54.079 you've got a credit line somewhere, you can continue to 1601 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.039 do this, and of course you make your payments. But 1602 01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.159 the interesting, the intriguing thing to me mark this strategy 1603 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:06.079 is that the estate taxes that are usually passed on 1604 01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:11.520 to the heirs of someone who dies uh in many 1605 01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.600 states kick in. And it I mean, it can be 1606 01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:19.159 very very costly to have you know, your relative with 1607 01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:23.000 all these assets pass on. But you're saying you're avoiding 1608 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:29.279 estate taxes as well. With this one hundred because you 1609 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:32.560 die with the assets are leveraged. Is that how or why? 1610 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:33.600 No? 1611 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:36.960 No, no, no, just general tax law. Some states do 1612 01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:38.760 you do have taxes like you don't want to die 1613 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:42.479 in you know, certain states it's expensive. But currently under 1614 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:44.439 tax code, you can die with up to twenty six 1615 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:48.239 million dollars and not pay a diamond taxes both federal 1616 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:50.760 and state. Not in all states, but most of them 1617 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:53.159 you actually can. So it's a thirteen million per person. 1618 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.239 So you can die with twenty six million no taxes. 1619 01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.760 All your real estate, business, stocks, ets, life insurance, cryptocurrency, 1620 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.119 all that can be passed to your family tax free 1621 01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:05.760 due to a step up basis. 1622 01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:08.840 Well, I would love to see the estate tax completely 1623 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.560 wiped out, whether we're following your strategy or not. I 1624 01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:15.640 always found that the death tax, as I rightfully call it, 1625 01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:19.720 I think, is one of the most egregious taxes that 1626 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:25.159 we face in this country. And hopefully when they either 1627 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:31.399 secure President Trump's tax bill, there's been talk about eliminating 1628 01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:35.159 it completely. And I just think because all that money's 1629 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:38.279 been taxed the entire time the person has been alive, 1630 01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:44.359 it's been you know, singularly, doubly and triplely taxed, and 1631 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:47.079 then it's taxed again when the person dies. It just 1632 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:50.319 seems like such a shame and such a sham your 1633 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:51.039 thoughts on that. 1634 01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:55.960 Actually, that can be true. In some cases, it's not true. 1635 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.279 Let's say, for example, we both inherited ten million dollars 1636 01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.319 because we had rich families. Right, I didn't inherit a 1637 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:04.239 dime like we were broke for four generations on both 1638 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:06.439 sides of my family, and not a penny. But let's say, 1639 01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:10.279 why hypothetically you both inherited ten million dollars and I said, hey, here, 1640 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:12.920 I got a plan. Let's never work and never pay taxes. 1641 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:15.279 All right, if we put ten million, you got ten million. 1642 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:17.520 Let's just go buy ten stocks we use every day. 1643 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:21.359 We say, I use Google, I use Microsoft, I use Amazon, 1644 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:25.359 I used Exon, I need some oil, I need whatever. 1645 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:27.000 Ten stocks apple Phone. 1646 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.760 Just picked ten stocks use every day, and you put 1647 01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:33.720 ten ten million dollars. Well, if that portfolio just makes 1648 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:37.079 ten percent rate of return, it'll double every seven years. 1649 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:39.880 So we just did nothing. Seven years later, we'd have 1650 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.720 twenty million seven years later, forty million seven years later, 1651 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:48.359 eighty million seven years later, one hundred and sixty million, dollars. Yeah, 1652 01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.079 what if we just took it a margin loan for 1653 01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:53.600 twenty thousand dollars a month, We just sent a took 1654 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.079 a low interest loan, sent it to our bank account, 1655 01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:58.479 and lived off twenty thousand dollars a month. We'd never 1656 01:24:58.520 --> 01:24:59.840 work and we'd never pay taxes. 1657 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:03.640 I could definitely do that. I mean, I got to 1658 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:05.600 start with I got to start with the ten million 1659 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:08.960 though first Mark, And I'm like, you know, no, there's 1660 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.119 no major inheritance waiting on me. I think my parents 1661 01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:16.479 have estates in each of the brothers' names, which will 1662 01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:19.079 all be subject to taxes if we wanted to use them, 1663 01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:22.600 and any other way than reinvesting as you're talking about. 1664 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:29.279 So the key here basically is invest borrow against that 1665 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:33.159 investment with the low interest loans, live off that money, 1666 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:38.840 and just continue to accrue the assets until you die. Now, 1667 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.199 when you die again, because of the way you've positioned this, 1668 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.359 your heirs, the people who are going to inherit this, 1669 01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:50.640 are not going to have to pay taxes on them. 1670 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:51.279 Correct. 1671 01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:55.000 It's a stepped up basis. You can do it with stocks, ETFs, 1672 01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:59.199 life insurance, cryptocurrency, or real estate, artwork, all those things 1673 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:02.720 got to stepped up basis. It's currently around approximately thirteen 1674 01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:05.000 million per person. So you can pass twenty six million 1675 01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.439 to your family if you're in as long as you're 1676 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.439 not in a state that has those those taxes. It's 1677 01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.000 all federally in state attacks free hunt up to twenty 1678 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:13.520 six million. 1679 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.720 Well, you want to make sure the assets actually accrue 1680 01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.239 well then and aren't losing money. I mean, like, for example, 1681 01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:25.680 Hunter Biden's art work, who just dramatically dropped in value. 1682 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:28.520 Probably not a great investment for anyone. 1683 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.399 I'm just yeah, a Hunter had to sell the artwork 1684 01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:35.680 because or because nobody would have lent him money against it, 1685 01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:37.880 because no bank's going to fall for that sham, of course. 1686 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.560 But now the rich will actually do that. They'll actually 1687 01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:42.520 take a brokerage account. Let's say they got a bunch 1688 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:45.000 of stocks, They'll take a low interest loan. They'll go 1689 01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.319 buy the artwork. They'll throw the artwork on their wall, 1690 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:50.960 and then they'll actually take a loan from the artwork, 1691 01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.439 and then they'll go buy some some bitcoin, and then 1692 01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:56.399 they'll take a loan from the bitcoin, and they'll go 1693 01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:59.319 buy real estate. I mean, that's what they're doing. It's 1694 01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:02.880 a pretty simple strategy. Again, it's normally been something that 1695 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:06.239 billionaires use. We start people with one hundred dollars in 1696 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:09.199 a brokerage account. It's all in the book, all right. 1697 01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:11.960 I've got a YouTube channel called the Perfect Portfolio. You 1698 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.479 can actually go look at my portfolios. You can learn 1699 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:16.239 the strategy and anyone can do it. 1700 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.039 Mark Kwan. A joy to talk to you, especially as 1701 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:22.399 we are closer and closer to tax time. Maybe nothing 1702 01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:24.479 we can do about twenty twenty four, but let's work 1703 01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.640 on twenty twenty five, right and beyond. Yeah, we can't. 1704 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:27.880 We don't. 1705 01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:29.439 We don't have a magic one to do this, but 1706 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:33.600 I do. My books are very simple and easy to understand. 1707 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.359 I've spent years doing this all for of my books. 1708 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:39.119 This one's no different. It's big, it's a thick book, 1709 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.159 four hundred pages, but it's actually fun to read. We're 1710 01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:44.920 getting reviews that it's simple, easy to understand, fun to read. 1711 01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:46.720 We've got some good jokes in there, and we make 1712 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:47.399 it entertaining. 1713 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:52.359 Be smart, Pay zero taxes by Mark J. Kwan. Thank 1714 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:53.840 you so much for your time, my friend. 1715 01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:57.159 Awesome, alridy great, haven't you look forward talking again soon? 1716 01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:02.239 Okay? Great? Mark Kwan good. I'm just trying to figure 1717 01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:04.439 out where I'm going to get that first ten mil 1718 01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:07.199 so I can start the ball rolling. But he says, 1719 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:09.680 all you need is one hundred bucks in a brokerage account. 1720 01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:12.920 It's the nightcap And we continue in moments on seven hundred. 1721 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:18.000 WLW Biller, author of The Most Dangerous Man in Washington, 1722 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.880 and it's a story about his journey as a pediatric 1723 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:29.000 doctor to a hero during a global crisis, and he 1724 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:34.159 faced all kinds of professional blowback for his stances and 1725 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:38.079 what he knew about COVID nineteen And to talk about 1726 01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:42.159 that for a few minutes once again, Scott Miller, how 1727 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:42.840 are you doing. 1728 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:47.479 Doctor, I'm actually a PA. I just had my own 1729 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.439 medical my own pediatric practice. 1730 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:51.600 But it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much. 1731 01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:55.279 Well, it's great to have you. So tell me a 1732 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.479 little bit about what happened at the We're talking about 1733 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:05.399 May of twenty, which is the earliest signs of COVID 1734 01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:07.760 and the infection in the United States, and how you 1735 01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:11.159 were treating your patients, and how you were being told 1736 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:13.840 to treat your patients, and how you got into trouble. 1737 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:18.079 Over all of that, I'll try and keep it brief. 1738 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:19.720 It's a fairly convoluted story. 1739 01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:23.359 But you know, interestingly, apart from just being told by 1740 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:28.159 you know, doctor Fauci deubah Burke's the CDC that there 1741 01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:33.039 were no treatments, there weren't No one was really coming 1742 01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:37.520 after providers that were treating is unless they were prescribing hydroxychloroquin. 1743 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:40.319 So early on we were pretty much free to do 1744 01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:43.520 what we wanted. And although I had a pediatric practice, 1745 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:47.039 I had parents that were coming in in the end 1746 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:51.000 of January, you know, beginning of February that were quite sick, 1747 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:54.359 and they had these prolonged cops and they a lot 1748 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:56.159 of them were saying the same thing, I just don't 1749 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.039 feel like I can get a full breath of air 1750 01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:01.359 and I can't fill my lungs. And they're good to 1751 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:03.279 the er and they'd be sent home with you know, 1752 01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:06.800 a rescue and hailer and really nothing else. And I'm 1753 01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.960 a curious guy, so I app okay, if we do 1754 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:12.920 a trial of some some different types of meds, and 1755 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.199 almost across the board, when I would have them nebulize 1756 01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:18.920 a medication called DDS, and they would say that they 1757 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.279 started to feel better, like their their lung sell better, 1758 01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:26.039 they could breathe better, and again not knowing what we 1759 01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:29.119 were dealing with. And then all of a sudden, on 1760 01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:31.800 March twelfth or twenty twenty, which was my birthday, everything 1761 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.279 shut down. They you know, fact she came on and 1762 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.600 you know the news about you know, COVID and and 1763 01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:41.800 everything felt wrong. And I called my brother, who's an 1764 01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:44.399 ear nose throat surgeon, and I asked him what his 1765 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:46.840 thoughts were, and he said, it's all political, bs, this 1766 01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:49.600 is crazy. I'm like, okay, cool, that's what I felt. 1767 01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:52.199 And my wife, My wife looked at me, She's like, well, 1768 01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:55.640 can you figure this out? And h which I thought 1769 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:57.439 was it was cool for her to think that I 1770 01:30:57.680 --> 01:30:59.960 be able to do that. But I was like, yeah, 1771 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:03.439 let's let's start diving into the research of Stars one 1772 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:08.640 and mrs and the you know, just looking at how 1773 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.039 this is impacting the immune system. And within within about 1774 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:15.439 three days, I came across information out of out of 1775 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:20.079 Italy Taiwan, where it just started leading me down these 1776 01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:23.960 rabbit trails and uh, you know, the thing that was 1777 01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:27.399 really the most devastating early on was the impact on 1778 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:32.319 the kids, closing schools, taking away all of the I 1779 01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:35.600 took care of a lot of children with special needs, 1780 01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:38.399 and all of their all of their physical therapy and 1781 01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:43.239 occupational therapy and speech therapy was instantly gone. And you know, 1782 01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:46.520 they're being told their vectors of disease and they couldn't 1783 01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.039 hang out with their friends. I was seeing a pandemic 1784 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:52.840 of depression and anxiety and there was nothing I. 1785 01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:54.000 Could do to fix it. 1786 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:58.840 It was really crippling, and so I started speaking out 1787 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:01.399 about it and was then asked if I would speak 1788 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.439 at the capital at a medical freedom rally or just 1789 01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:08.640 a freedom rally to talk about the medical side of it. 1790 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:10.920 I was in May of twenty twenty, which I did, 1791 01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:14.960 and shortly after that the state the state started coming 1792 01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:19.720 after me, which led to this kind of downward spiral. 1793 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.520 But you know, but the book is it really it's 1794 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.640 it's not really about COVID. It's not political. It's just 1795 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:31.720 my my personal journey or my family's journey navigating through 1796 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:37.840 It's a it's a journey into the insights of what 1797 01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:40.119 it was like because we were doing something that no 1798 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.119 one else was doing, at least in our state. I 1799 01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:47.439 didn't close my practice. I did inpatient care. We didn't 1800 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:51.119 we didn't have social distancing. We didn't make families wear masks. 1801 01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:51.680 We do. 1802 01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:54.840 It was as though there was no such thing apart 1803 01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:59.560 from you know, hand washing, and and so we were 1804 01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.720 coming on fire from a lot of different areas. 1805 01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:02.960 You know. 1806 01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:06.279 I wrote mass exemptions to open up private Christian schools, 1807 01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:10.920 and magazine exemptions to allow student kids to go back 1808 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.319 to college without being mandated to get an experimental shot. 1809 01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:19.119 So the state at a certain point literally considered me 1810 01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:21.680 to be and called me the most dangerous man in 1811 01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:25.479 Washington for using my license to perpetuate the spread of 1812 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.520 a virus during a worldwide pandemic. 1813 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:32.960 Well, you saw that patients who went into the hospital 1814 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:37.159 were dying, and you tried everything you could to keep 1815 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:41.760 patients from going into the hospital, and then for lack 1816 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.760 of a better word, rescuing some patients and letting them 1817 01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:49.119 escape from the hospital because the approved standard of care 1818 01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:53.079 was killing people, wasn't it. 1819 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:57.319 It was decimating people. I talked to I see you 1820 01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.840 critical care nurses, and in two of our our hospitals 1821 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:05.279 in Vancouver, Washington, it was you know between a you know, 1822 01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:07.920 at a six or seven percent survival rate if they 1823 01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.720 went into the ICU, especially if they're ventilated, which I 1824 01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:14.920 found to be unacceptable because I was going into homes 1825 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.159 with people that had been sent home from the hospital, 1826 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:19.359 like from the er and said to come back when 1827 01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:21.760 they you know, when they're having a harder time breathing. 1828 01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:22.840 And a lot of. 1829 01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:25.000 People were like, I'm not going back to the hospital. 1830 01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:27.560 And by the time I would, I would walk in 1831 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.840 their home, they were you know, their oxygen saturation would 1832 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:33.920 be in the sixties seventies, So that would be a 1833 01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:38.600 person that would be ventilated immediately, and and I would 1834 01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.279 treat them and we could get even without supplemental oxygen, 1835 01:34:41.359 --> 01:34:43.520 like we would order it that even in that interim 1836 01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:45.680 of waiting to get the oxygen we could get, I 1837 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.159 could get somebody that was you know, oxygen at seventy 1838 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:52.640 percent to ninety percent and forty five minutes just using 1839 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:58.079 what they considered unapproved FDA approved but not approof for 1840 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:03.359 COVID rep his medications. And across the board, these people 1841 01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:06.039 were like, huh, why won't they do this in the hospital, 1842 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:11.960 and you know, money, they made so much money. 1843 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:16.359 Oh yeah, they were incentivized by by I mean, they 1844 01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:19.800 were actually getting paid for people dying as long as 1845 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:23.039 they listed them as COVID deaths. We know this. It 1846 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:26.479 is so evil. I can't even begin to wrap my 1847 01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:30.239 head around it. Still, Scott Well in the Dogs. 1848 01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:35.479 I didn't realize until I did an interview with Daniel 1849 01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:39.279 Horowitz with with Blaze's TV, and we were he had 1850 01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:42.359 reached out to me to help do some hospital rescues 1851 01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:46.960 for people that were calling into his show, and so 1852 01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:51.079 he started sending me the bills that these patients had 1853 01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:53.840 gotten or what you know, insurance or aghs had paid out. 1854 01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:56.720 And you know, I was thinking, you know, one hundred 1855 01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:59.319 and fifty two hundred thousand, I'm looking at five hundred 1856 01:35:59.319 --> 01:36:02.479 and seventy five eight hundred and fifty thousand, one point 1857 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:06.479 two million. A friend of mine's husband it was over 1858 01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:10.479 two million dollars that the hospital got reimbursed. So that's 1859 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:15.000 a huge incentive to withhold therapies that would allow somebody 1860 01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:16.079 to go home and. 1861 01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:19.600 To keep people sick or kill them. Yes, it's amazing. 1862 01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:24.359 The most dangerous man in Washington that would be Washington State. 1863 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:29.039 A physical Uh, you're a you're a physician's assistant. 1864 01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:32.880 Correct, Yeah, have position assistant. 1865 01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:35.920 Scott Miller, thank you for your time tonight. An interesting 1866 01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:37.840 story I'd like to follow up some more at some 1867 01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:39.760 point if you have the time. 1868 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.119 All right, absolutely, and yeah, you can get it on Amazon. 1869 01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:45.600 And I've been told it's not boring. I've been told it, 1870 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:49.119 so that's pretty pretty it's been. I call it an 1871 01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:52.680 entertaining read, and it's insight that even people that were 1872 01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:54.760 close to me, that were kind of in the inner circle, 1873 01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.359 had no idea. My wife had, even she. 1874 01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:58.920 Was a nurse and she had worked with me and 1875 01:36:59.000 --> 01:36:59.359 some of it. 1876 01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:02.239 She came up after reading some chapters and she's like, Scott, 1877 01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:04.239 I had no idea you were doing this. I'm like, well, 1878 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:05.920 you didn't want to know. 1879 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.000 It's getting steady. 1880 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:09.920 But it's a pretty fun read. 1881 01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:12.720 I look forward to checking it out. Scott Miller, thank 1882 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:15.399 you very much. It's the nightcap and we're not done. 1883 01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:18.520 Not even Klok we had the opportunity to talk to. 1884 01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:22.520 But I have the pleasure tonight of speaking to Rhinier Zeidelmann. 1885 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:26.960 And I hope I'm pronouncing the name correctly. Am I absolutely? 1886 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:32.000 Randier Zeidelman author of the Origins of Poverty and Wealth, 1887 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:37.399 and he argues that economic freedom, not socialism, lifts nations 1888 01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:40.439 from poverty. Using global case studies to show how in 1889 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:45.439 centerves drive wealth and happiness. People aren't necessarily just born 1890 01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:48.960 into wealth and that's why they are wealthy. And I 1891 01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:53.720 think that's one of the points you make. You're suggesting 1892 01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.000 you're in You're in Berlin, Germany right now, and I 1893 01:37:56.039 --> 01:38:00.399 appreciate you taking the time all across across the globe 1894 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.640 here to talk to us. But you're talking about a 1895 01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:07.800 liberty road trip that everyone should take. What does that 1896 01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:12.199 consist of? In here? This liberty road? 1897 01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:15.520 What I did in two years I traveled through the 1898 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.920 early countries all over the world. I've been in Latin America, 1899 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.439 in a lot of countries, in Asia, of course, in 1900 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:26.840 the United States, and in sixty European countries, and to 1901 01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:31.960 study economic freedom or economic repression. And you know, it's 1902 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:36.640 not a book about theory. It's a mixture between travel experience. 1903 01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:41.319 And I spoke with entrepreneurs, with economists, with politicians, with 1904 01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:44.279 all the people in all of this countries. I studied 1905 01:38:44.319 --> 01:38:49.399 why are some people some countries become richer and some 1906 01:38:49.560 --> 01:38:53.000 are very poor? And I'll give you one example. One 1907 01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:59.840 examples is Vietnam. Vietnam was in the nineties the foorst country, 1908 01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:02.800 the poorer than all African countries because of you know, 1909 01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:05.680 the war, not only in the United States, with trends 1910 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.000 with Japan, with China, and what was not destroyed by 1911 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:13.079 the war was destroyed later by the crazy plant economy. 1912 01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:17.239 And then they started with economic reforms, introducing private property, 1913 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.800 three market reforms. They call them the socialists, but I 1914 01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:24.119 don't think that there are real socialists. But the results 1915 01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:28.000 from more economic freedom was that the number of people 1916 01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:33.000 living in poverty in Vietnam decreased from eighty percent in 1917 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:36.239 ninety ninety to three percent today. And I think this 1918 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:41.159 is amazing, and I had a lot of examples, and 1919 01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:43.840 to bottom up, it is all this way. If you 1920 01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.840 add more economic freedom, people become wealth there, and if 1921 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:52.600 you add more government, people become pride. I give you 1922 01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:58.319 an example from one country that became very poor because 1923 01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:01.880 of small government business, argent I've sat in however, every 1924 01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:05.319 year in Argentina in the last three years. Argentina was 1925 01:40:06.439 --> 01:40:09.239 one hundred years ago, one of the richest countries in 1926 01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:12.239 the world, as rich as the United States one hundred 1927 01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:17.319 years ago. And then they made all this crazy left 1928 01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:23.239 wing right wing attism, socialism alway, small government, and the 1929 01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:27.640 result was that they became so poor and they had 1930 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:33.039 every single year since ninety forty five and inflation, duppytities, 1931 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:36.720 in sat rate, doup petition every single year. And now 1932 01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.880 you see now they have now Yabi in malays as 1933 01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:43.720 libertarian president, and I hope you will be successful in 1934 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.960 tiding against So it's the same story. I traveled to 1935 01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:49.640 so many countries, but in the end, it's always the 1936 01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:50.239 same story. 1937 01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.399 Well, it seems like things are turning around in Argentina 1938 01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:57.800 because of the new administration there understanding exactly what you're 1939 01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:01.800 talking about. In countries like India though, because of the 1940 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:06.479 caste system that still exists there that keeps people in 1941 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.680 a certain class poorer than others. Does it not. 1942 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:12.560 To be honest? 1943 01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:15.560 For I've been not in India. I've been in a 1944 01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:18.600 lot of Asian countries in China, Vietnam, Naple sous who 1945 01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:20.640 you're not in India, so I can't say so much 1946 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:24.319 about it. But I can say something about Nepal. It's 1947 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:28.199 the neighbor of India and Nepal it's one of the 1948 01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:30.840 fust clanses in the world today. It's the second purse 1949 01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:31.439 in Asia. 1950 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:32.159 And why is that? 1951 01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:35.720 Because almost everything is forbidden. It's forbidden to make a 1952 01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:38.239 profit of more than twenty percent. I spoke there with 1953 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:41.800 entrepreneurs and they told me if I produce anything, for example, 1954 01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:45.520 my book, they can make only a profit of twenty percent. 1955 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:48.720 Otherwise they are punished by the government. And then they 1956 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:54.920 have long lists. What is forbidden for foreign investors. You're 1957 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.279 not allowed to invest in this and that and that. 1958 01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:00.680 Oh it's red tape, a lot of regulation. It's forbidden, 1959 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:04.520 and in the end they are poor. I spoke about 1960 01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:08.119 Vietnam before. It is the difference. In Vietnam they embrace 1961 01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.159 towering dances, even Americans, and I doubt before maybe they 1962 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:15.640 hate Americans because of the war. No, they laugh Americans 1963 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:18.640 and they open the economy for the world, and so 1964 01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:23.039 they it's a very entrepreneur country. And if you compare 1965 01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:27.039 these countries like Nepal on the one hand and Vietnam 1966 01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:30.840 on the other hand, you see it's always about economic freedom. 1967 01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.199 In the end, how is your home country of Germany 1968 01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:35.159 doing on this prospect right here? 1969 01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:39.399 It's the state is a sad story. You know, we 1970 01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:44.640 were so successful in Germany because essence World War two, 1971 01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:50.760 we introduced a free market economy with our with our 1972 01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:54.159 minutes of economy with the Airheart and now in the 1973 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:58.119 last year it started with Andrew Americas, they've started to 1974 01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:01.760 go mall and mall in the direction of the planned economy. 1975 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:05.560 For example, to face out nuclear power plants. What is 1976 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:08.800 a crazy idea. They speak about climate change as the 1977 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.119 biggest threat, but if you believe in this, you should 1978 01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:14.000 have more nuclear power plans then have to phase out. 1979 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:16.640 So they paced out nuclear power plants. They're past dot 1980 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.760 cold power plants. They wanted to make do everything with 1981 01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:24.159 windmills and solar energy, what is of course not possible. 1982 01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:27.279 And now we have the highest energy prices in the 1983 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:32.239 world and companies go, for example to the United States 1984 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:36.159 or some even go to China. As the biggest chemical 1985 01:43:36.319 --> 01:43:40.800 company in the world. They said, okay, we go more 1986 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:45.039 to China now because there's less bureaucracy in China than 1987 01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:49.039 in Germany and not so high energy price. So it's 1988 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:53.319 a it's a sad story because you know, the Clean 1989 01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:57.359 Party in Germany, they wanted to prove that they wanted 1990 01:43:57.359 --> 01:43:59.680 to do the role models for the rest of the world. 1991 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:04.079 If you set them. Germany is only responsible for two 1992 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:06.880 percent of zero two emissions on the world if you 1993 01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:10.960 would cut them to zero, it wouldn't change anything. Then 1994 01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.439 they replied, yes, maybe, but we will be the role 1995 01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:18.359 models for the whole world and everyone will like to 1996 01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:21.079 do it as we do it in Germany. Now exactly 1997 01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:24.359 the opposite happened. We have zero crows. Now we are 1998 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:29.560 in the third years of recession. And you know this 1999 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:33.520 is this is another example that planned economy does not work. 2000 01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:37.760 They don't call it a plan economies. But let's maybe 2001 01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:41.520 say on in two centers, what is the difference between 2002 01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:45.920 a planned economy on the one hand and capitalism on 2003 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:52.399 the other hand. In capitalism, entrepreneurs and consumer decide. 2004 01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:53.079 What to produce. 2005 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:58.640 It's every day the decision of millions of companies and consumers. 2006 01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:03.920 In a planned economy, politicians divide. Walter produced. And so 2007 01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:07.560 if you think that politeerians are smarter than millions of 2008 01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:12.079 consumers and entrepreneurs, wealth per socialists. But I don't believe 2009 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:14.680 this that the politicians are the smartest people in the world. 2010 01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:19.079 No, no, I don't. I don't either, reneer Zeidelmann, thank 2011 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.399 you so much. The Origins of Poverty and Wealth is 2012 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:24.800 the book, and we appreciate your time this evening. That 2013 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:28.319 is all for us. We end with the national anthems, 2014 01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:32.800 star Spangled banner to honor America. On seven hundred WLW