Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's video.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Dan Watkins. We have been following
Speaker 2: here on nights, I particularly in the eleven o'clock hour
Speaker 2: for the last few nights, the fallout and the reaction
Speaker 2: to the US attack last Saturday night on the three
Speaker 2: nuclear sites in Iran. And as I'm sure most of
Speaker 2: you know, there was an initial report at least part
Speaker 2: of which was leaked to, amongst others, I guess CNN
Speaker 2: and the New York Times and maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: the network's mainstream networks, which said that maybe the bombing
Speaker 2: by the B fifty twos with these bunker busting bombs
Speaker 2: did not achieve or was not as successful as President
Speaker 2: trumpet declared on Saturday night that the US had obliterated
Speaker 2: the three sites, two of the sites written by the
Speaker 2: bunker busting bombs, and one of the sites was hit
Speaker 2: by about thirty Tomahawk missiles fired from from U S submarines.
Speaker 2: Well today, Uh, and again there's a there's this back
Speaker 2: and forth. Uh. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Speaker 2: whose name is General Dan Kin C A I n E.
Speaker 2: He has the nickname of Raisin Kane which I'm sure
Speaker 2: many of our people realized that. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the derivation of that is, but it sort of
Speaker 2: was something that that people would have talked about. Well,
Speaker 2: that guy, that guy who's raised Raises Caine meaning could
Speaker 2: be could be used both as a compliment and also
Speaker 2: as a criticism. But apparently this general the new US
Speaker 2: it was, uh, he's the Joint chiefs of Staff and
Speaker 2: he's a US Air Force general, so he's a chairman
Speaker 2: of the Joint chiefs of Staff and the US Air
Speaker 2: Force general is respected, well respected. So he had a
Speaker 2: news conference today and it was early and I want
Speaker 2: to play a little bit of that, and we're going
Speaker 2: to start off with cut twenty two, in which he
Speaker 2: details with a great deal of specicific specificity as to
Speaker 2: what went into this attack. Cut twenty two.
Speaker 3: Rub Now, let me next move to a walk through
Speaker 3: of the GBU fifty seven Massive Ordnance Penetrator weapon and
Speaker 3: share a little bit about the planners who did this
Speaker 3: and their work on the weapon. First, let me set
Speaker 3: the stage for you. There's an organization in the US
Speaker 3: called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency DITTRA. DITTRA does a
Speaker 3: lot of things for our nation, but Ditra is the
Speaker 3: world's leading expert on deeply buried underground targets. In two
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was
Speaker 3: brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed
Speaker 3: on something going on in Iran for security purposes, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to share his name. He was shown some
Speaker 3: photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked like
Speaker 3: a major construction project in the mountains of Iran. He
Speaker 3: was tasked to study this facility, work with the intelligence
Speaker 3: community to understand it, and he was soon joined by
Speaker 3: an additional teammate.
Speaker 2: Okay, so basically what Kana saying here is that they
Speaker 2: became aware of what around was doing in two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine, and they put some eyeballs on it. Okay,
Speaker 2: twenty two A please rob.
Speaker 3: For more than fifteen years, this officer and his teammate
Speaker 3: lived and breathed this single target four dough, a critical
Speaker 3: element of Iran's covert nuclear weapons program. He studied the geology,
Speaker 3: He watched the Iranians dig it out. He watched the construction,
Speaker 3: the weather, the discard material, the geology, the construction materials,
Speaker 3: where the materials came from. He looked at the vent shaft,
Speaker 3: the exhaust shaft, the electrical systems, the environmental control systems,
Speaker 3: every nook, every crater, every piece of equipment going in
Speaker 3: and every piece of equipment going out. They literally dreamed
Speaker 3: about this target at night when they slept, They thought
Speaker 3: about it driving back and forth to work. And they
Speaker 3: knew from the very first days what this was for.
Speaker 2: You do not build a.
Speaker 3: Multi layered underground bunker complex with centrifuges and other equipment
Speaker 3: in a mountain for any peaceful.
Speaker 2: Purpose twenty two BA. Please.
Speaker 3: They weren't able to discuss this with their family, their wives,
Speaker 3: their kids, their friends, but they just kept grinding it out.
Speaker 3: And along the way they realized we did not have
Speaker 3: a weapon that could adequately strike and kill this target.
Speaker 3: So they began a journey to work with industry and
Speaker 3: other tacticians to develop the GBU fifty seven. They tested
Speaker 3: it over and over again, tried different options, tried more.
Speaker 3: After that, they accomplished hundreds of test shots and dropped
Speaker 3: many full scale weapons against extremely realistic targets for a
Speaker 3: single purpose, kill this target at the time and place
Speaker 3: of our nation's choosing.
Speaker 2: This guy's pretty good. This is you're listening to General
Speaker 2: Dan Kan. His nickname is Raisin Can twenty two c ROB.
Speaker 3: And then, on a day in June of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: more than fifteen years after they started their life's work,
Speaker 3: the phone rang and the President of the United States
Speaker 3: ordered the B two force that you've supported to go
Speaker 3: strike and kill this target. Yesterday. I had the incredible
Speaker 3: honor and privilege of spending time with these two Defense
Speaker 3: Threat Reduction Agency officers who've given so much. One of
Speaker 3: them said, quote, I can't even get my head around this.
Speaker 3: My heart is so filled with the pride of being
Speaker 3: a part of this team. I am so honored to
Speaker 3: be a part of this. To you both, thank you,
Speaker 3: and thank you to your families. Operation Midnight Hammer was
Speaker 3: the culmination of those fifteen years of incredible work. The
Speaker 3: air crews, the tanker crews, the weapons crews that built
Speaker 3: the weapons, the load crews that loaded it.
Speaker 2: Cut twenty three, please run.
Speaker 3: One last story about people. When the crews went to
Speaker 3: work on Friday, they kissed their loved ones goodbye, not
Speaker 3: knowing when or if they'd be home. Late on Saturday night,
Speaker 3: their families became aware of what was happening and on
Speaker 3: Sunday when those jets return from white Men, their families
Speaker 3: were there, flags flying and tears flowing. I have chills
Speaker 3: literally talking about this. The jets rejoined into a formation
Speaker 3: of four airplanes, followed by a formation of three, and
Speaker 3: came up overhead white Men, proudly in the traffic pattern,
Speaker 3: pitching out to land right over the base and landing
Speaker 3: to the incredible cheers of their families who sacrifice and
Speaker 3: serve right alongside their family members. Like I said, there
Speaker 3: were a lot of flags and a lot of tears.
Speaker 2: Now that guy is a leader. He finishes up with
Speaker 2: an explanation of how these bunker busting bombs work. Listen
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 3: Unlike a normal surface bomb, I don't see an impact
Speaker 3: crater because they're designed to deeply bury and then function.
Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 3: All six weapons at each vent at four DOH went
Speaker 3: exactly where they were intended to go. A bomb has
Speaker 3: three effects that causes damage, blast, fragmentation, and overpressure. In
Speaker 3: this case, the primary kill mechanism in the mission space
Speaker 3: was a mix of overpressure and blast, ripping through the
Speaker 3: open tunnels and destroying critical hardware. The majority of the
Speaker 3: damage we assessed, based on our extensive modeling, was a
Speaker 3: blast layer combined with the impulse extending from the shock.
Speaker 3: Imagine what this looks like six times over.
Speaker 2: And if you don't believe General dan Kin, which I do,
Speaker 2: let's listen to Cut thirteen. This gentleman is the Iranian
Speaker 2: Foreign Ministry spokesperson s mile Baki. Cut thirteen, Rob.
Speaker 4: Can you tell us I'm going to insist on this
Speaker 4: a little bit more?
Speaker 5: What remains operational today as far as Iran's nuclear program.
Speaker 5: I have nothing to add on this matter because it's
Speaker 5: a matter of technical issue or Atomic Energy Organization and
Speaker 5: other relevant agencies are working on that. But yes, our
Speaker 5: nuclear installations have been badly damaged, that's for sure, because
Speaker 5: it has come on the repeated attacks by Israeli An
Speaker 5: American aggressors.
Speaker 2: So I said last night, and I said Monday night,
Speaker 2: do not listen to what Iran says, watch what they do.
Speaker 2: I'm listening to what this guy said. That is an
Speaker 2: absolute admission that perhaps Donald Trump was right when he
Speaker 2: said these facilities were obliterated. I still don't know that,
Speaker 2: but it sounds to me when you pair the explanation
Speaker 2: from General Kine, which was pretty impressive with what this
Speaker 2: Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson now confirms, and the fact that,
Speaker 2: as I said Monday night, don't listen to what they say,
Speaker 2: watch what they do. For them to be in a
Speaker 2: ceasefire now for I'm guessing it's about seventy two hours
Speaker 2: or so, tells me more than I need to know.
Speaker 2: I think this mission was an extraordinary success, and just
Speaker 2: as the mission that President Obama authorized to eliminate Osama
Speaker 2: bin Laden was extraordinarily dangerous and an extraordinary success. As
Speaker 2: I said a couple of weeks ago, imagine the decisions,
Speaker 2: the monumental decisions that any president of the United States
Speaker 2: Democratic Republican has to make, knowing that nothing is guaranteed,
Speaker 2: but hoping for complete success. I'd love to get your
Speaker 2: reaction to what has transpired in the last seventy two hours.
Speaker 2: I think that General Kine is a remarkable leader. Just
Speaker 2: the way in which he presented himself, we are blessed
Speaker 2: to have him as the Joint as the Chairman of
Speaker 2: the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Coming back on Night's side,
Speaker 2: three sixty one seven, I got some lines open here
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five four to ten thirty or
Speaker 2: six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I would
Speaker 2: like to see these lines light up. If you disagree
Speaker 2: and you still have doubts, then you think that CNN
Speaker 2: was right in terms of what they rep for two
Speaker 2: days straight, uh, leaving me and probably all of you
Speaker 2: to believe that this mission was not a success based
Speaker 2: upon some information that was leaked and it only could
Speaker 2: have been leaked by someone who had a very high
Speaker 2: security clearance, which is sad when you think about it.
Speaker 2: It's really sad that someone decided to leak a security
Speaker 2: who had a security clearance, decided to leak information for
Speaker 2: political purposes. Uh, it's it's extraordinary. Sixty six seven. Let's
Speaker 2: be honest, give me a call.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the phones. I'm looking for
Speaker 2: full lines, folks. Seven two, five, four, ten thirty, six
Speaker 2: point seven nine three one ten thirty. If you are
Speaker 2: not proud as an American to listen to the presentation
Speaker 2: of General Dan Raisin Kane, I felt many of you
Speaker 2: perhaps did not hear his presentation today, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to make sure that it was played tonight because I
Speaker 2: think it is pretty emphatic. And everything that I've learned
Speaker 2: about this guy is that he is a military officer.
Speaker 2: He is he does not have a political stripe. The
Speaker 2: only stripes that the stars on his shoulder speak for himself.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman confirms
Speaker 2: our nuclear inter installations have been badly damaged because of
Speaker 2: repeated attacks. Okay, let's go to Gary and Wilburn. Gary,
Speaker 2: you and you are first up this hour and nights.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling in Gary, Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, I haven't been calling for a long time
Speaker 6: because I've had my own troubles in my life with
Speaker 6: my physical weight, because I'm very big. What was I
Speaker 6: going to say? I suppiled everything that Trump does, because
Speaker 6: let's face it, he's a genius as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 6: and just to be on your side when he puts
Speaker 6: people down and so forth, let's face the fact. You know, McCain,
Speaker 6: he's just a jerk. When I do have one question
Speaker 6: for him, I'm troubled by. And of course, Dan is
Speaker 6: the man. Is it true that Vladimir Putin offered his
Speaker 6: assistance to go after Iran with the United States?
Speaker 4: No partners.
Speaker 2: No. No. As a matter of fact, I think that
Speaker 2: President Trump had a phone call with Putin earlier this week,
Speaker 2: and at some point Putin said to the president was
Speaker 2: reported that he could not help us on Iran because
Speaker 2: he has a relationship with Iran. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: he he met and received members of the Iranian government
Speaker 2: in Moscow earlier, I believe, after the bombing of Saturday night,
Speaker 2: and apparently President Trump said to him, no, but you
Speaker 2: can help me with Russia Ukraine. So I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, if Trump is smart, and I believe he's smart.
Speaker 2: I believe at different times he's uncouth and all of that,
Speaker 2: but I do believe that he's smart, and I think
Speaker 2: that what he's trying to do now is maybe, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, basically take the momentum that he might have
Speaker 2: now because of the success of the raids. And that
Speaker 2: was that was a tough call. That was not an
Speaker 2: easy call. That was you know, if again any president,
Speaker 2: as I said, I will link this to the call
Speaker 2: that President Obama made. You know, he had those two
Speaker 2: helicopters go in to Pakistan to get to get Osama
Speaker 2: bin Laden, and one of the helicopters crashed, as you recall.
Speaker 2: So you've got to give both of these individuals credit
Speaker 2: for their courage. And I assume they did their due
Speaker 2: diligence on these to these two raids. But I assume
Speaker 2: that now there may be some outreach from Saudi Arabia
Speaker 2: to Israel. Let's get the Abraham Accords, Let's get more
Speaker 2: people signing on to them, Let's let's get peace finally
Speaker 2: in the in the Middle East, at least for a while.
Speaker 2: You know, who knows what happens tomorrow. But the fact
Speaker 2: that they haven't fired rockets at each other for three days,
Speaker 2: that's pretty positive. I think A.
Speaker 6: Couple more questions I want to ask you, is this
Speaker 6: when you hear about all the Arabic country said, oh
Speaker 6: my god, we all stand together. Oh and then once
Speaker 6: the United States something like what they just did, every
Speaker 6: Arabic country is back, And when I said, Hi, Donald,
Speaker 6: how you doing well?
Speaker 2: I think that that's that's an observation. I don't know
Speaker 2: that the Arabic countries, by the way, as you describe them,
Speaker 2: friends with Iran. Iran is and has for forty five
Speaker 2: years been a country that's an outlaw nation. It's it's
Speaker 2: not it's a it's a bad government. It's a bad government,
Speaker 2: just like North Korea is a bad government as bad
Speaker 2: as Putin is. And he's very bad. We had and
Speaker 2: of course it's it's indefensible what he's done to Ukraine indefensible.
Speaker 2: But we somehow have to get him to stop doing
Speaker 2: what he's doing in Ukraine without pushing him to the
Speaker 2: point where he does something really crazy. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: dealing with people who are I don't know. I'm sure
Speaker 2: that there were psychological theories here, but some of these
Speaker 2: people have to be I mean the people the Mullas,
Speaker 2: I think they are theocrats that they don't care if
Speaker 2: they ever got that bomb. I think that nuclear bomb,
Speaker 2: they would have thrown it in on Israel and they
Speaker 2: would have they would have they would have accepted and
Speaker 2: welcomed death.
Speaker 6: Daniel smarter than maryor I do have this other question,
Speaker 6: is this any country that has a nuclear bomb and
Speaker 6: so forth? Is it a matter of our intelligence that
Speaker 6: we know within a matter of seconds that that what
Speaker 6: they're about to do, where we have to go to
Speaker 6: our own battle stations and make sure that weapon is
Speaker 6: not shot at us? Can you explain this?
Speaker 2: There are nine countries as I understand that who have
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. Some of those countries you don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about. Britain and France have nuclear weapons. Countries
Speaker 2: that you have to worry about. Can stand in India
Speaker 2: their nuclear weapons appointed at each other. Israel has a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. I has the capacity. Obviously Russia and China
Speaker 2: also have that capacity. We have that capacity. I believe
Speaker 2: Brazil has a nuclear weapon, but I don't know that
Speaker 2: they have they have the delivery system. I'm sure that
Speaker 2: that we have people tonight somewhere running radar. We have
Speaker 2: submarines in the water. We we we you know, we
Speaker 2: we are. You know, we're probably more at risk from
Speaker 2: some lone wolf actor with a suitcase nuke. When all
Speaker 2: of those Soviet satellite so Soviet states broke up and
Speaker 2: many of them they're there now that there's Russia and
Speaker 2: the old Soviet Union, a lot of that weaponry is
Speaker 2: unaccounted for. That's what scares me. I don't think Putin
Speaker 2: is going to fire a weapon at US. I don't
Speaker 2: think Gigiping's gonna fire a weapon us because they know
Speaker 2: that we could destroy them as well.
Speaker 6: So about North Korea, one of his name, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Kim Jong wun. He's a nut job, but he also
Speaker 2: likes his lifestyle, and he knows that if he fires
Speaker 2: a nuclear I'd be more concerned about him firing a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon either at South Korea or Japan. But he
Speaker 2: knows if he does that his his his minutes are
Speaker 2: numbered because we we got we got one that that
Speaker 2: we would put on whatever building he was living in. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've lived with in the nuclear
Speaker 2: rage for many many years, and hopefully we can live
Speaker 2: for many more generations. But the one country that I
Speaker 2: most worried about having a nuclear weapon was is and
Speaker 2: was but still is Iran, and that has been removed
Speaker 2: because of President Trump's decision on Saturday night, and I
Speaker 2: think all of us that that has reduced. They should
Speaker 2: take that nuke your countdown, Clark and move it back
Speaker 2: a little bit, because I think now is less likely
Speaker 2: that we're going to see a nuclear war in our
Speaker 2: lifetime now that Iran has been newted. Thanks Gary.
Speaker 6: Last question, okay O, I am't the story lately. What
Speaker 6: is the president does of the eggs going for right now,
Speaker 6: you can.
Speaker 2: Get a dozen eggs for four ninety nine and probably
Speaker 2: less than market basket. It's hasn't got hasn't gotten back
Speaker 2: to where it used to be. I used to buy
Speaker 2: him for buck ninety nine. It'll get Hopefully they'll get
Speaker 2: back there. Thanks Garry, talk to you later.
Speaker 7: By bye.
Speaker 2: Take a very quick break. I got some open lines here,
Speaker 2: which is ridiculous. Six one seven, two thirty, six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine thirty Joe and Laurie coming up and they get
Speaker 2: some room for you. Uh, how about a little a
Speaker 2: little credit, a little credit to the men and women
Speaker 2: in the military who executed this mission on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: And how about a little credit to this chief of staff.
Speaker 2: This chief an amazing, amazing individual, the Chairman of the
Speaker 2: Joint Chiefs of Staff US Air Force, General Dan Kane.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone you know could have explained it
Speaker 2: better than him. And if that doesn't make you proud
Speaker 2: to me in America, I don't think you're an American.
Speaker 2: I hate to put it like that, but give us
Speaker 2: a call coming back six one seven two ten thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, one ten thirty back.
Speaker 1: On night Side, Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w
Speaker 1: BZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the call. It's gonna go to Joe
Speaker 2: and Boston. Hey Joe, welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 4: How are you Dan?
Speaker 2: I'm doing just great, Joe. What's your thought?
Speaker 4: I used to work for a company, the Recheon. Okay, sure,
Speaker 4: And what I want to tell you, I don't agree
Speaker 4: with President Trump a lot of things. We're he's one
Speaker 4: hundred percent right what he had to do. And also
Speaker 4: other president's Democratic Republicans and Republican president that I'm to
Speaker 4: say anything and when they excuse me, when they have to.
Speaker 4: You cannot let a country that ball file was something
Speaker 4: that dangerous that it will never happen. And again, the
Speaker 4: world is the safer place because what happened. Uh. And
Speaker 4: the people that don't don't believe it.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, the war's not right, you know, killing is
Speaker 4: not right. But you do have to take care of yourself,
Speaker 4: you know. And this country has to be taken care
Speaker 4: has to be taken care of protected. And the thing
Speaker 4: is we had to do it. We're going to have
Speaker 4: to do it in many years down the road with
Speaker 4: other people possibly. But what I'm trying to say is
Speaker 4: the people that think that it's not right, you know,
Speaker 4: protest against this, and that if they lived in Russia,
Speaker 4: or if they lived in China or North Korea and
Speaker 4: they did that, they'd have a three cent bolt in
Speaker 4: their head. Let everybody talk and hopefully everybody's civil about it.
Speaker 4: But when push comes to shoves, the reason why we're
Speaker 4: here safe in this country is because of it, because
Speaker 4: of the gentlemen, the pilots and all the servicemen and
Speaker 4: the people behind it that make us safe.
Speaker 2: That's pret Well, let me tell you something. I so
Speaker 2: appreciate Joe your call. I wish I heard from more
Speaker 2: people who felt that way. I watched the news tonight
Speaker 2: and I saw those people demonstrating, Uh, you know, stop
Speaker 2: attacking Iran. You know, if you really feel that way,
Speaker 2: why don't you go over there and spend some vacation
Speaker 2: time over there, you know, get to know the country
Speaker 2: a little bit better. I mean, these are people who
Speaker 2: hate the United States of America. Uh, and if they
Speaker 2: they it's so frustrating. They have every right to protest. Okay,
Speaker 2: I defend their right to protest, but but it would
Speaker 2: be like I guess there were people out there who
Speaker 2: would who would say, you know, leave Hitler alone. He says,
Speaker 2: he's just a guy who's looking for a little bit
Speaker 2: of extra real estate for his country. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's uh, it's I look at him. I think to myself,
Speaker 2: what is the world experience been? What have they had?
Speaker 2: What are they aware of? What have they watched? Have
Speaker 2: they watched what this country went through? Have they watched
Speaker 2: what happened to the Marines and the barracks in Beirut?
Speaker 2: What are they? What are they? I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: very frustrating, but Joe, you said it better than I could.
Speaker 2: And I so appreciate your call.
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Daran, please call more often, Joe. I need your voice.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you a great night.
Speaker 2: Laurie in Idaho, Hi, Laurie, welcome back.
Speaker 6: Wellhy, thank you.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 6: I want to thank you first of all for playing
Speaker 6: those quips. And I mean his presentation was just one inspiring.
Speaker 6: It's unbelievable to hear.
Speaker 2: Command, his command of the language of the verbiage. He
Speaker 2: knew what he was talking about. I just got to
Speaker 2: tell you, the guy blew me away watching him today.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly me too. I'm saying. When he's like, I'm
Speaker 6: getting chills or something talking about this, I'll make Yeah,
Speaker 6: you're given to us too. Dude. So yeah, it was
Speaker 6: good to hear. And so you know, I never believed
Speaker 6: that they weren't successful, at least as far as what
Speaker 6: they were looking to do. Yeah, so I didn't. I
Speaker 6: didn't fall into that category. So I was still kind
Speaker 6: of on inside. And and yeah, when I think of it,
Speaker 6: when I would say to the people who are responsible
Speaker 6: for those leaks, can't be set on the radio. I
Speaker 6: just cannot believe that they're so denigrating to a mission
Speaker 6: that was dangerous, yeah, but went off without any injuries
Speaker 6: and respect for the well our generals and the guys
Speaker 6: who ran the missions. I mean, what a disrespectful thing
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's almost as if they paper pushers. They're
Speaker 2: they're sitting there. You know that, you know there are
Speaker 2: are whatever they pay pay grade is they're not in
Speaker 2: harm's way. Uh and uh and and they don't have
Speaker 2: the common courtesy to say, hey, uh it's it's the
Speaker 2: these people are the warriors who are out there. Let's
Speaker 2: see what How could anyone have known what the damage was? Uh?
Speaker 2: As quickly as that, again, it was in a preliminary report,
Speaker 2: and yet CNN was reporting it. And even today I
Speaker 2: was watching some of the CNN anchors trying to defend themselves,
Speaker 2: and you know, there their hatred for what's that? Oh yes,
Speaker 2: I did, Yes, I did, yes, Yeah, no, I know,
Speaker 2: and I chose not to. You know, I think of
Speaker 2: him as a you know, as a TV personality, but
Speaker 2: he certainly uh you know, he got a lot of
Speaker 2: criticism for that conversation that that was inadvertently made available
Speaker 2: to the reporter from the Atlantic, and now this one,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, all all the same people who are
Speaker 2: criticizing you for that, how come you didn't tell Congress?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want to call elon Omar and tell
Speaker 2: her what we plan to do. And and let me
Speaker 2: get Aana Presley in there as well at AOC because
Speaker 2: they're not going to leak anything, There's no doubt about that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well again, we're we need this, We need to come
Speaker 2: together as a country and we you know, if there
Speaker 2: was a vote. I watched some of the polls. CNN
Speaker 2: had these polls how that the majority of Americans were
Speaker 2: opposed to to the the attack on nuclear on the
Speaker 2: nuclear sites in Iran. Let's see how that how those polls,
Speaker 2: what those poll numbers are a week from now, okay.
Speaker 6: Right exactly.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Lauria, I appreciate.
Speaker 6: What you're talking about before you start criticizing.
Speaker 2: You bet you, you bet your thanks Lauri, and remember
Speaker 2: watch what they do, not what they say. I think
Speaker 2: that the fact that there uh that they are now
Speaker 2: in a three day ceasefire, there's a reason for that. Thanks, Laurie.
Speaker 2: Talk to you one. Didn't let me go from here
Speaker 2: to another, Laurie. This lawyer's a little closer to home
Speaker 2: in Melrose. Laurie and Melrose, welcome. How are you?
Speaker 9: Yes, Hi, thank you, I wondered. I was thinking that
Speaker 9: they were saying, how far back was fifteen years ago?
Speaker 9: Who was a president then when they started to do
Speaker 9: that investigation what was going on and started to build a.
Speaker 2: Weapon, It would have been President Obama.
Speaker 9: Fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: Fifteen years Yeah, well, because that would have been twenty
Speaker 2: two thousand. I think General Cain said it was actually
Speaker 2: it started this whole project. It came to their attention
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine. What he said was they
Speaker 2: came to their attention in two thousand and nine that
Speaker 2: Iran was building some sort of a structure in the
Speaker 2: side of a mountain. And you probably heard the sound bites.
Speaker 2: So that was when President Obama was just in office
Speaker 2: the beginning.
Speaker 9: I mean, so it goes back, and that's what I'm
Speaker 9: just curious about. Also, the other thing that had come
Speaker 9: out was saying that they had seen vehicles before the explosion. Yes,
Speaker 9: they selected that, you know, the uranium was being mooved.
Speaker 9: So and I've heard that again today at some point,
Speaker 9: so or was it last night?
Speaker 8: Maybe?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you're on that situation.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a friend of mine who was probably
Speaker 2: very critical. I had him on the show on Friday night,
Speaker 2: Tatsuakida I was criticized by people who didn't have the
Speaker 2: courage to call and challenge him, and he showed as
Speaker 2: of Sunday this picture that had been taken a few
Speaker 2: days before, which has now been widely circulated, of these
Speaker 2: trucks lined up. Now, I don't know what was going on,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, he is arguing that some
Speaker 2: of the enriched plutonium, the enriched uranium might have and
Speaker 2: might have been moved. I don't know, let's find out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I'm just curious because there was stated that
Speaker 9: the I think they Ranian governments said that they had
Speaker 9: moved it.
Speaker 2: So who knows who well, but right, you know, But
Speaker 2: there's also a theory that it would have been impossible
Speaker 2: and too dangerous to move enriched uranium. Also, the centrifuges
Speaker 2: would not have been moved, and those probably at this
Speaker 2: point are in a state of complete disrepair. And one
Speaker 2: of the counter arguments to the picture of the trucks
Speaker 2: is that there may have been an effort to basically
Speaker 2: cement the openings to the tunnels, you know, to the
Speaker 2: air shafts and all that. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: to believe. You know, what's going to take. It's going
Speaker 2: to take these The Israelis probably to put some people
Speaker 2: on the ground. The Israelis have great intelligence. They have
Speaker 2: people who are Israeli who are inside on who probably
Speaker 2: have worked. I mean, the Israelis. No one's better than
Speaker 2: the Israelis. They have They have intelligence officers who speak
Speaker 2: who speak Farsi uh, and you can't tell whether they're
Speaker 2: Iranian or Israeli. We will find out the truth of this,
Speaker 2: but my as of right now, my money's on General
Speaker 2: Kine No no.
Speaker 9: I thought he was. He was amazing, very clear and
Speaker 9: very factual and everything else. And give me credit to
Speaker 9: the people that really you know, did make the you know,
Speaker 9: the risks there life.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you imagine?
Speaker 9: And the ones for fifteen years were studying there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? How boy, It's great to know
Speaker 2: that there are people like that.
Speaker 9: Who who was they got to be in the country
Speaker 9: living there so.
Speaker 2: Well, well, no, there were there were people living here
Speaker 2: who were learning looking at satellite photos. I'm sure they
Speaker 2: were looking at satellite photos every day. They probably have
Speaker 2: never been there, but they have been able to Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. I suspect these are people who are who
Speaker 2: were in the government, who were looking at photos, satellite
Speaker 2: photos every day. Laurie, I'm up after my break, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you run, But thanks so much for calling.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great night,
Speaker 2: great questions, great comments. I got some open lines here
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six one seven, nine,
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. We're coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's finish it out here. Let me go
Speaker 2: next to John in New York. Hey, John, thanks for
Speaker 2: checking in. How are you tonight?
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm fine, dan Uh. Of course. I was on
Speaker 7: my way home from work and I heard part of
Speaker 7: the conversation going on, and I just wanted to mention
Speaker 7: to you. I don't know if you recall I told
Speaker 7: you that I was a field service engineer for a
Speaker 7: machinery company and I try out of the United States
Speaker 7: for thirty years. Okay, I've been into the automotive, the aircraft,
Speaker 7: military equipment places at all. Back during the era of
Speaker 7: the Gulf War, I was in the facility where they
Speaker 7: were making the first bunker bust. The casing really wow. Yes,
Speaker 7: And the engineering people they said to me, John, do
Speaker 7: you know what that is? I said, no, that's a
Speaker 7: very fancy looking pet with a spear point on it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: So this is a big steel cylinder that's hollow inside
Speaker 7: with a point on it, right, And they explained to
Speaker 7: me what this is going to be was it. Of course,
Speaker 7: there's going to be a high explosive material put inside
Speaker 7: of it. Then it's going to have a rocket engine
Speaker 7: on the tail end. And the theory is they're going
Speaker 7: to drop this oute of an airplane. It's going to
Speaker 7: go down those first, and then they're going to start
Speaker 7: the rocket engine. This thing is going to be going
Speaker 7: how many miles an hour? I don't remember. When it
Speaker 7: hits the sand and the desert in the ground, it's
Speaker 7: going to go about two hundred feet down and then
Speaker 7: it's going to explode and destroy where that is down there.
Speaker 2: Wow wow, yes, well, thank you.
Speaker 7: How long ago was that? Do you realize the technology
Speaker 7: and the stuff they had today, how far advanced?
Speaker 2: Well that's thirty five that's thirty five years ago if
Speaker 2: you're talking about the first golf of war ninety one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. And I recall shortly how many weeks
Speaker 7: later there was an incident where they used that thing
Speaker 7: to test it. They were they hit a bunker that
Speaker 7: they thought, uh oh, you know Hussein was in and
Speaker 7: he wasn't there, but they wrecked the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got him eventually as well. Hey John, I
Speaker 2: love your calls. Man, keep please keep listening to my
Speaker 2: program and feel free to call any night.
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks, all right, but I wanted to, Yes, Dan,
Speaker 7: I just want to reforce your theory thinking that they
Speaker 7: wiped it out.
Speaker 10: I believe they did, all right, you know, And I
Speaker 10: think and.
Speaker 2: I think that the fact that they're that the ceasefire
Speaker 2: is holding. Look these guys are they don't They're not
Speaker 2: gonna go down easily. And for them to engage in
Speaker 2: the ceasefire, look at what they do, not at what
Speaker 2: they say. They got all the bravado. They've cut off
Speaker 2: the internet, so their people have no idea. You know,
Speaker 2: the the ayah Tola was on today. What a great victory.
Speaker 2: The Israel and the United States have surrendered. Right, that's
Speaker 2: what he's telling his people, but they've cut off the internet.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that will lead to him to to the people
Speaker 2: over there actually being able to take control. John, appreciate
Speaker 2: your call so much. Thank you, my friend too. All right,
Speaker 2: gonna go quickly here, Bernie, I got you and I
Speaker 2: got inn in San Antonio. So Bernie, you're gonna go first.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Bernie, all right.
Speaker 10: Real quick. Then that speech was great by General Kane.
Speaker 10: It made me proud to be an American today.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Remember that's nine eleven, everyone displaying the flags. Everyone came
Speaker 10: together and they were we were America. He talked about
Speaker 10: that today when they came back. His people came back
Speaker 10: that the crowd was there, Chairman, and there was plenty
Speaker 10: of flags, wives, and it just shows he put out
Speaker 10: there how these people devoted their life to making it,
Speaker 10: you know, being able to solve this problem, making this
Speaker 10: country see.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, here's the thing I watch. I watched
Speaker 2: that demonstration at the Federal Building in Boston today. I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, it looked to me, for the most part,
Speaker 2: like a bunch of hippie retreads from the seventies. And
Speaker 2: I would hope that young Americans, people under the age
Speaker 2: of thirty, are under the age of forty, are now
Speaker 2: going to rise to the occasion because they're going to
Speaker 2: be around a lot longer than you and me. People
Speaker 2: like your son who have joined the military and are
Speaker 2: dedicating their life and their lives to keeping this country
Speaker 2: free again. I hats off to you and your wife,
Speaker 2: and hats off to your son and your family.
Speaker 10: And I got to talk to him tonight and he
Speaker 10: was so excited about his career. That's the head of
Speaker 10: him in the military, and that made me so proud
Speaker 10: to hear him talk like that, be able to stand
Speaker 10: up for this country and what he believes is right.
Speaker 2: You should be proud, Bernie. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time, and thank you so much for being such
Speaker 2: a loyal listener. Thanks Bernie, talk to you soon. You're
Speaker 2: gonna wrap it up with Anne and San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 2: Hi An, welcome back.
Speaker 8: Thank you Dan. One wonderful thing about General Kane is
Speaker 8: President Trump tapped him recently when he when he first
Speaker 8: won hit the second election, Yes, to come back from retirement.
Speaker 2: He had retired.
Speaker 8: He had retired, and he came back to be the
Speaker 8: joint chief of staff.
Speaker 2: I thought he was Okay, well, that's that's news, admirable. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: Well that's thank you for adding that, because that adds
Speaker 2: another dimension. This is a guy who stayed home and
Speaker 2: played golf and he's back. I didn't realize that. And
Speaker 2: it's amazing what my listeners, the amount of knowledge that
Speaker 2: my listeners have, and not that all of you know everything,
Speaker 2: but with you a lot of the stuff that I
Speaker 2: don't know, you share and I thank you for that.
Speaker 2: I really am very appreciative.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Dan, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll night you too, keep going, Thanks very much. Okay,
Speaker 2: Well we are done for the night, and I'm not
Speaker 2: going to do a post game tonight. I'm tired, uh
Speaker 2: and it's been a very long day. And I may
Speaker 2: do a post game tomorrow night or I may not,
Speaker 2: but I I'm going to pass on that tonight. I
Speaker 2: want to thank Rob Brooks for being on top of
Speaker 2: his game tonight. I want to thank Marita who was
Speaker 2: kind enough to help me. And for those of you
Speaker 2: who sat back tonight and listened, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: But I wish more of you had called, because this
Speaker 2: was a night that I think all of us could
Speaker 2: have been a little more proud to be an American
Speaker 2: and let people know that, yeah, we are still the
Speaker 2: United States of America, and we are still the greatest
Speaker 2: country on the face of the earth. My name is
Speaker 2: Dan ray I'll end as always. First of all, I
Speaker 2: wish you a very happy Friday Tomorrow TGIF is Friday.
Speaker 2: All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
Speaker 2: why I pell Charlie ray Is, who passed fifteen years
Speaker 2: ago in February. That's all your pets are who are passed.
Speaker 2: They loved you and you love them. I do believe
Speaker 2: you'll see them again. I hope to see again tomorrow
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Speaker 2: a great Friday. Everyone,