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<v Speaker 1>Hi, this is Peter Vandermulen with firefast vible gear and

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about American exceptionalism on this particular program and

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<v Speaker 2>ways to always be refused to be a victim, because

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<v Speaker 2>a victim, in our opinion, is simply someone with no options.

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<v Speaker 2>Always refuse to be a victim, fight back legally and responsibly,

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<v Speaker 2>and in these somewhat troubling times, you yes, that's the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen need to be prepared for even the

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<v Speaker 2>most amazing contingencies that can happen out there so you

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<v Speaker 2>can survive. And today just a few minutes, will be

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<v Speaker 2>introducing a very special guest, Peter Vandamuelen, a company called

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<v Speaker 2>fire Fast Survival Gear. What say them, Well, we'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit about this, but I'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective about why people need to be prepared in

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another. We're all seeking to survive our

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<v Speaker 2>society collapses and survival reverts to the most basic level, food,

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<v Speaker 2>shelter and protection. Making a fire is essential to all

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<v Speaker 2>three categories, cooking food, warming a shell. There in any

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<v Speaker 2>number of ways fire can be used to protect, such

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<v Speaker 2>as signal fires, wild animal attacks, et ce. So life

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<v Speaker 2>without fire becomes difficult to sustain. Thus the need for

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<v Speaker 2>a reliable method of starting a fire. And we're not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to scare anybody on this program into thinking our

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<v Speaker 2>civil society will end tomorrow. Our purpose here is to

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<v Speaker 2>provide each and every one of you, ladies and gentlemen

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<v Speaker 2>with options. And talking about that, let's talk about small

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<v Speaker 2>business in America. Well, how did this company begin. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out in just a moment, but here, as we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it, they began as a classic mom and

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<v Speaker 2>pop shop. They started from nothing, developed on a shoe

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<v Speaker 2>string budget, began to add employees, and evolved into what

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<v Speaker 2>we are today. And that is what they are today,

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<v Speaker 2>a true made in America's story. And here to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us the rest and some fine details about why you

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<v Speaker 2>need this particular product in your go gear when you're

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<v Speaker 2>out there, out in the outback or just everyday life.

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<v Speaker 2>We welcome Peter Vandermulen, a firefas survival gear. Good afternoonser,

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much for having me. I appreciate the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to explain what we do well.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your time. And you know, for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned to you and your wife when we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking a long time ago, as we've been many times

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<v Speaker 2>visiting the crossroads of the West gun shows out there

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona. As you traveled there, you know, I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell people on our radio shows that you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>always need to be prepared, and that's the old boy

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<v Speaker 2>scout at it. So I was always be prepared. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I came across your booth there, I was quite

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<v Speaker 2>impressed because I've been looking at and finding out no

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<v Speaker 2>success by finding out these very inexpensive and very seriously

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<v Speaker 2>lack of quality products when it comes to being able to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, start a fire when you need one out

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<v Speaker 2>in the outback. So tell us about the company. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about the products, because I'm going to I understand

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get into a little discussion here about magnesium,

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<v Speaker 2>and the chronic magnesium that you procure is something that

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<v Speaker 2>makes this product very special. So how did you get started?

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<v Speaker 2>This is interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was about seven years ago and my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I had ended off another business and we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for other things to do. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a young child, some of us are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>fire and I was as well, not that I ever

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<v Speaker 1>committed at arsenal or anything, but I just like.

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<v Speaker 2>To employed it and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to start fires. And I observed somebody else manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>a product there was a fire starter for camping in

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<v Speaker 1>survival purposes, and I discussed this with my wife for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time, and we decided that we could manufacture

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<v Speaker 1>a better product along that line, and so we set

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<v Speaker 1>out on a process of research. And the magnesium is

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<v Speaker 1>an important element, but I guess the most important element

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<v Speaker 1>of our fire starter is the peristerium, which is earth

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<v Speaker 1>metal and iron. And we actually located the original manufacturer

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<v Speaker 1>of peristerium, and they're they're in Austria, not Australia, but

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<v Speaker 1>Austria near Jersey. Yes, yeah, and we we buy our

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<v Speaker 1>product from them. I mean in terms of the peristerium

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<v Speaker 1>itself and in comparison to everything else on the market.

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<v Speaker 1>The flint that I that I buy is ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>percent feristerium, and basically the rest of the market uses

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<v Speaker 1>product manufactured in China, and it's not really peristerium at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They use such a tiny fraction of rare earth metal

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<v Speaker 1>I think about sixteen percent of there. Pharaoh rod Is

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<v Speaker 1>is fair is earth, and mine is seventy six percent

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<v Speaker 1>rare earth, and pariserium, of course is made up of

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<v Speaker 1>rare earth and iron. And so when you combine those

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<v Speaker 1>two it makes ninety six percent in my product, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Chinese product is less than thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, that's amazing. And you know, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the periodic table, I know you know this better

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody. Magnesium checks in is number twelve on the

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<v Speaker 2>periodic table. But it's interesting. I've been around a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of machine shops in my life, and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you have two. And we've seen people always have a

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<v Speaker 2>cautionary tail about drilling into Let's say an aerospace company

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<v Speaker 2>is doing a block of magnesium and when they spin

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<v Speaker 2>that drill right Peter too fast, what happens. They can

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<v Speaker 2>excite that piece of magnesium and you simply can't put

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<v Speaker 2>it out. So this is a very magical piece of material.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder where its origin is. I mean, we can

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<v Speaker 2>go back to time and space. They say in stars

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<v Speaker 2>magnesium is produced from the after of that of supernova.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is, tell us about magnesium because it's

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<v Speaker 2>so amazing. Because if you use this product to start

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<v Speaker 2>a fire, and your high quality one, this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to work every time. And let's say you're out in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of a blizzard or a you know, big

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<v Speaker 2>windstorm or a big downpour in a hurricane, Yours is

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<v Speaker 2>going to rely. You know, yours is going to work

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<v Speaker 2>all the time and every time. And the good news,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's made in the USA. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>big plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we do all the we do all the manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>in house here and the the magnesum we use is

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven percent pure. There's three percent other impurities in

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<v Speaker 1>there actually just to make it stronger and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it gets when it gets produced, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to have a couple of those impurities in it or

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<v Speaker 1>else that it won't come out like a smooth rod.

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<v Speaker 1>It ripples without the other impurities in it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's why we get it slightly alloyed. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's only three percent and magnesium is interesting. It burns

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<v Speaker 1>at four five hundred degrees wow. So with our fire starter,

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<v Speaker 1>we include a three quarter inch long, three quarter inch

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter magnesium rod. It's a three and three quarter inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Three inches are exposed above the wooden handle which it's

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<v Speaker 1>mounted in, and three quarters of an inch is mounted

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<v Speaker 1>into the handle itself. But the great thing about it

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<v Speaker 1>is when you use our farro rod our ferrosium, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got dry tinder, there's no need to use the

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<v Speaker 1>magnesium whatsoever, because you can light the fire directly from

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<v Speaker 1>sparks generated from the ferossarium rod. Now, if you're having

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<v Speaker 1>trouble getting your fire lit, and what you were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about is adverse weather conditions, you shave magnesium directly from

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<v Speaker 1>the magnesium rod that's on the back side of the

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<v Speaker 1>farrow rod. And you can use that to generate a

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<v Speaker 1>four five hundred degree burst of heat which will help

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<v Speaker 1>you get your fire lit in extreme weather conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So that's a amazing And let's go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the survival aspect of this, you know, as the Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Sky business and what we do not only in broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did mention this to you and your wife

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<v Speaker 2>we go out there. I'm just letting the listeners know

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<v Speaker 2>about this. You know, we do so many outdoor night

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<v Speaker 2>events with telescopes out in the outback, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people come out there. They don't have those two

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred five hundred million dollars you know RVs, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually boondogging out there and they're camping. Maybe just

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<v Speaker 2>some people have a small tent or a sleeping bag

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<v Speaker 2>or a hammock, and they do want to start a fire,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, legitimately and do it safely, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the proper procedure, and we could go through that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have a rock base around it so

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<v Speaker 2>that the fire can't escape. But the more important thing

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<v Speaker 2>is when you're out there and you can't rely on

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<v Speaker 2>just a little book of matches or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be ridiculous. So take us down this path.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is something to describe the process. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have, let's say, the trucker in your hand, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the models that you sell, and we're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>that on your website, which of course is fire dashfast

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Wellw dot fire dash fast dot com. Describe

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<v Speaker 2>the procedure. I mean it may sound so simple to people,

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<v Speaker 2>but starting a legitimate fire, if you're out there for

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<v Speaker 2>survival needs, or even if you want to do what

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<v Speaker 2>marshmallows and s'mores, this is something that everybody needs to

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<v Speaker 2>have in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Go go bag, right exactly. Well, camping in survival, those

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<v Speaker 1>are two separate endeavors. Right, A lot of times, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people will take cotton balls, basoline, dryer, lint, tissue, paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of things that actually help people ignite

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<v Speaker 1>a fire more easily. Now, that's camping because you can

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<v Speaker 1>go home and you can pull more dryer lint out

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<v Speaker 1>of your dryer and save it up and take it

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<v Speaker 1>with you. But the survival is a different a different

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<v Speaker 1>creature altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you don't have the support of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Civil society to provide you with things in a constant basis.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've done with my Trekker firestarter is and as

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<v Speaker 1>I explain to people when we do demonstrations at gun

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<v Speaker 1>shows and trade shows, we if you like one fire

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<v Speaker 1>day with my fire starter, five years later, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>using the same tool. What it means is you have

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<v Speaker 1>not had to rely on replenishing the other things that

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<v Speaker 1>you would need to light a fire if you're camping,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly, And so I mean you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a lighter, you've got various different tools

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<v Speaker 1>that make it very very easy to light a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all well and good, you should use them. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I like to have people do when they buy

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<v Speaker 1>my product is when they do go camping, is practice

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<v Speaker 1>with this fire starter. It's easy to use. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of tools of a similar kind. It does take a

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<v Speaker 1>little skill, and but once you get the skill, so

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<v Speaker 1>use it quickly and easily. The whole point is is

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a disruption in the civil society, then

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<v Speaker 1>you already have the skill with you under your.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, right, you'll be probably the most popular person in

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<v Speaker 3>Gun Shows. Yes, the Crossroads Gun Shows can be found

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<v Speaker 2>A very special guest today is Peter mander Muhln. He

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<v Speaker 2>and I encourage you to go there, folks, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter has and always will continue to be in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind what always refused to be a victim. Victim is

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<v Speaker 2>simply someone with no options, you know, fight back legally

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<v Speaker 2>and responsibly. And how does that translate in today's interview?

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<v Speaker 2>Always be prepared, and it's so important, But I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of ask you something else. As we go

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<v Speaker 2>And here's an interesting thing. Maybe this is a minor

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<v Speaker 2>observation by myself, but I've seen people have books of

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<v Speaker 2>should say it can even start a fire, So yours

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<v Speaker 2>is totally inert it doesn't have anything. You can't do

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a much better way to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>safety and yours what last heck of a lot longer

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<v Speaker 2>than a book of matches. Please continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean, if you, like I said, lighters, matches

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, if people wish to use them, I

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<v Speaker 1>perfect sense, absolutely, But gaining the skill to use a

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's an important thing. And it's not just from

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<v Speaker 1>the viewpoint of, oh my goodness, if the whole civil

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<v Speaker 1>society collapses, you have in But it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>any camping experience. Uh, you learn new skills, You actually

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, this is interesting, Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well it's a it's a it's it's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of enjoying the outdoors as well, and so I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so we spend a great majority of our time

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<v Speaker 1>any one time I was in Las Vegas, and if

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I go there just about every month, whether I

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<v Speaker 1>Story, right and so and so we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>they would not allow us to do live demonstrations of

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<v Speaker 1>And so my wife and I went onto the local desert.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we didn't have to go very far because you

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<v Speaker 1>we took video of that and showed the the the

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<v Speaker 1>a demonstration on Las Vegas desert. So wow, wherever it

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<v Speaker 1>is that we go, if we can't do the live demonstration,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do something in the outdoors close to where their

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<v Speaker 1>in a variety of different circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only do people need the product, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think they need a good demonstration about Well, we already

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<v Speaker 2>covered the survival concept of the actual camping side, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many other uses for this product. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>something interesting that I want to talk about here. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you go into your blog, you have one of

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<v Speaker 2>these particular blogs that's in there, you know, emblazoned in

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<v Speaker 2>your website, at the website of course, firedeshfast dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it, well, it's yours. It's unknown American worker.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me say this before we tell people about

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<v Speaker 2>this and you describe it in detail. What I find

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating here is American small businesses. What's built this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talk about American exceptionalism here, Peter, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean every word I'm going to say here. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>these giant corporations. That are the ones that I'm appealing

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<v Speaker 2>graduate high school. Maybe some came from foreign countries and

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<v Speaker 2>emigrated here the right way, the long term procedure, and

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<v Speaker 2>they came with five maybe dollars or five cents in

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<v Speaker 2>their pocket. But the important thing about your blog here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's entitled is you know, unknown American worker. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this because it's interesting. It's about some contractor named G.

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<v Speaker 2>W Ellis where cement was late in nineteen twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And the bottom line is what that after ninety five years,

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<v Speaker 2>the quality in workmanship is still there. You know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we need, quality products made here in America by

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<v Speaker 2>people that obviously believe in their specialties that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think America is all about. What

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I agree entirely. I've many many years. I used

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<v Speaker 1>and we're more regional now than we were. But I

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<v Speaker 1>And what I noticed is in the past, you go

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<v Speaker 1>it means is the quality of workmanship has been declining.

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<v Speaker 1>And outside my house is the stamp that you just

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<v Speaker 1>referred to. Gw Ellis nineteen twenty seven. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, there's earthquakes all the time. And these sidewalks

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<v Speaker 1>to the people that made quality, quality products. And all

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<v Speaker 1>year in improving even as our costs were rising on magnesium,

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<v Speaker 1>peristerium and wood, and the wood that we use in

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<v Speaker 1>product costs have gone up, and even during this time,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been increasing the quality of our products. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though we have less financial resources than we did

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, it never blunted my commitment

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, very well said, and I just want to remind

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<v Speaker 2>everybody you're listening to the Doctor Sky Experience and proud

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<v Speaker 2>the world and maybe even out into the universe. We

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<v Speaker 2>call it the crown Jewel of radio, the iconic talk

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<v Speaker 2>radio station seventy seven WABC. I'm Steve Kates with great

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<v Speaker 2>guest here on the Doctor Sky Experience as you're hearing today,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Vandermuelen. He of course owns a company, very interesting company,

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<v Speaker 2>small business ladies and gentlemen, and proud to say it

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<v Speaker 2>Firefast survival gear. Check them out, fire dashpast dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to mention something too. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been given some awards here and rightfully sofa the quality

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<v Speaker 2>of this product. And we'll get into some of the

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<v Speaker 2>items that you do sell Trekcker. This particular product that

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<v Speaker 2>you make is rated number one by Outdoor Life magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about that honor. That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was very interesting. Tim mcwelsh in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>out to A Life magazine for many years, and he

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<v Speaker 1>came across our firestarter in an or very organic way

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<v Speaker 1>as he was conducting his survival classes and some of

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he'd never seen anything like.

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<v Speaker 4>Us, with the quality and the ease and the ability

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<v Speaker 4>of using alcroarics a light fires with. And so the

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<v Speaker 4>online version in I believe July twenty nineteen about to

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<v Speaker 4>a Life magazine, he writes an article there's about eight

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<v Speaker 4>or ten different fire starters that he has and owns

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<v Speaker 4>himself and rates us the number one firestarter. And what

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<v Speaker 4>I find is oftentimes when I when I deal with

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<v Speaker 4>survivalists and survival trainers, they all love our products. But

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes when you get one to ten lists, when you

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<v Speaker 4>you know we've all looked at those one to ten lists, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>some of those are dominated by uh basically companies that

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<v Speaker 1>Side by side comparison. And what was nice about sim

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<v Speaker 1>survival training, and survival training is where the rough the road.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if your if your product doesn't work, no

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<v Speaker 1>good it is, if it's not working, it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he wrote an article which was just completely

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe it's because we we use the world's

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<v Speaker 1>even if it sustains violent impacts, we'll still keep on working,

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<v Speaker 2>And firefair survival gear will be on their minds and

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<v Speaker 2>their children down the line. I'm a small business, ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen. The seed grows and that's exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about today. Very interesting guests here today, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to remind everybody there's something in the product line

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody at every price point. So I know, if

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<v Speaker 2>people are sitting there going, well, hey, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>top bagnesium product in the world and all these other things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe this is just something that I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even think about financially, I think differently, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you do have a variety of products and something pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much for everybody out there. And I encourage you to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the website again firedashpass dot com to learn

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<v Speaker 2>so much. But what seems to be one of the

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<v Speaker 2>better sellers right now, I mean as you go through

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<v Speaker 2>this past year twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Two, Yeah, the best seller is hands down, our Trekker.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your survival your survival grade firestarter. The next

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<v Speaker 1>one down and the Trekker is five ounces total weight.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that a lot of campers use is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Camper lanyard that has forty inches of pair of cord.

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<v Speaker 4>You can wear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Around your neck if you so choose, and it's three

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<v Speaker 1>ounces total weight. And then we have an ultra backpackers

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<v Speaker 1>firestarter called the Firefly, and that is one in three

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<v Speaker 1>quarter ounces total weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of a lot of the extreme backpackers won't

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<v Speaker 1>ever take anything that's over two ounces, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>made sure that that did not breach the two ounce level.

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<v Speaker 1>And but one of the things we've done in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, as I said, we've increased the quality and

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<v Speaker 1>performance of all that products. The firefly is the one

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<v Speaker 1>where we made the biggest change. Our plant is longer,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a slightly wider in diameter, and we doubled

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<v Speaker 1>the size of the magnesium bar. And so I always

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<v Speaker 1>liked the idea of having a backpacker friendly or an

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<v Speaker 1>extreme backpacker friendly firestarter, and now it's far superior to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the previous years. Now and it's uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you lit one fire day and you're out backpacking, you

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<v Speaker 1>should get six months worth of use.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the out of the fire pretty and good folks,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing, you know, compared to being out there imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the foolishness. I mean, if you have nothing but simple matches. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now that's why you're listening to this particular interview on

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<v Speaker 2>the Doctor's Sky experience, and now you know better. So

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<v Speaker 2>simply this, whether you're glamping what, Peter, in the backyard

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<v Speaker 2>or you're climbing Mount Everest or somewhere in between. This

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<v Speaker 2>company has something to offer you, and especially in these

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<v Speaker 2>troubling times. I don't want to be negative here, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's always something, you know. I've been a firearm instructor,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter for so many years here and I've had so

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<v Speaker 2>many people come into my classes and obviously doing everything

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<v Speaker 2>from concealed carry you know, blah blah blah. We always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what people need in a go bag, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously for those out there that don't know what a

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<v Speaker 2>go bag is, let's say, okay, in the worst of situations, right, Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being alarmist at all. There should be and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's you know, home batteries, a source of you know, light,

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<v Speaker 2>heat or whatever, and obviously now a way to start

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<v Speaker 2>fire if you needed to be outside and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything, you know, some food rations and something to

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<v Speaker 2>survive with for a period of fought. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard different estimates. I'm not a survivalist expert, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard anywhere from you know, two or three days, if

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<v Speaker 2>you had to this bookie out of your house immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that be sad, But tell us about that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think the average person needs if they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a go bag? What do they need

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<v Speaker 2>to have provisions for just a couple of days in

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<v Speaker 2>the least? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You have to have something that UH will we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you at least a minimum level of survivability and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I would think at least a week. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not that there would be necessary. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you if if you've got more than a week's worth

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<v Speaker 1>of supplies, it's going to be difficult to transport, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to, you know, get out and and

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<v Speaker 1>so if you have a definitely a week's worth of

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable supplies with you before you have to start living

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<v Speaker 1>off the land, then you know you've got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to get yourself organized.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and.

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<v Speaker 1>UH without fire starters, because we're committed to the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of them. We test them in many different ways. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways I tested one of my fire starters,

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<v Speaker 1>I placed it in the block of ice for three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I then threw it off a thirty foot cliff, knocked

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<v Speaker 1>off the rest of the ice, and lit a fire

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And with the trekker we placed it in a tubble

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<v Speaker 1>water for four days. I pull it out, wipe it

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<v Speaker 1>on my jeans, and light a fire in thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. So there's right durability and quality and workmanship. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not a genius in marketing. Logos and

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<v Speaker 2>mottos and stuff like that are slogans, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>I came up with one for your company. And don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that somebody else has beat me to the punchline.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it this way, firefare survival gear. Just

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<v Speaker 2>simply keep up the fire. How about that one there?

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<v Speaker 1>We got keep the home fires burning even away from home.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there you go, Peter, I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for being part of this radio show and the doctor

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<v Speaker 2>s Guy experience here. You know, my whole dream a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago was a New Yorker was always listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this radio station, seventy seven WABC. They're well on

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<v Speaker 2>the air for well over one hundred years. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's well in America's longest lived radio stations with great talent.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm privileging on it to be at least part

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<v Speaker 2>of this team. And I have to thank so many

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<v Speaker 2>of the people like John katzimatd is the owner of WABC,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and so many others. But even more so,

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<v Speaker 2>it's people like yourself that help make up this experience

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<v Speaker 2>from all walks of life, flighters and gentlemen. We normally

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<v Speaker 2>talk the subjects of astronomy, space, aviation, and weather. We

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<v Speaker 2>have many celebrity guests in the mix here. American exceptionalism.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never stop talking about that, you know, a salute

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<v Speaker 2>to our veterans, first responders, and the people who work

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<v Speaker 2>in the hospitals, obviously in these very difficult times. So Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank you and again, and you get

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<v Speaker 2>the last word. Anything you did want to mention that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even have a time there were a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to ask, please go right for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only thing I have to say about it

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<v Speaker 1>is that I appreciate the opportunity to let people know

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<v Speaker 1>about that product. Sure, we're committed to making the highest

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<v Speaker 1>quality product that you can get on the market. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody who makes anything even vaguely as easy to use

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<v Speaker 1>or as durable as what we may. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you buy our product, you can test it yourself, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can be safe and secure in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you will be able to light a fire even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not Even if you're not a professional and you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had any instruction whatsoever, you can muddle your way

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<v Speaker 1>through and get a fire lit without product. We've had,

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<v Speaker 1>We've had complete and offices do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, And Peter, finally from me, I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not already happened, that's some of these adventurers

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<v Speaker 2>that climb these mountains like Mount Everest, that base camp,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they already have this in their kit. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that if they don't, they're listening to this interview

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<v Speaker 2>right now. So thank you for your time stay with

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<v Speaker 2>us as we go to our break here, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do appreciate your time. Again. That's Peter Vandermulen. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>owner with his lovely wife fire Fast Survival Gear. Check

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<v Speaker 2>them on the World Wide Web and also you can

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<v Speaker 2>find them more on face book and YouTube for some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting videos. But their website triblew dot firehpass dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This concludes this exciting addition as you folks tell us

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<v Speaker 2>the Doctor Sky experience here on Talk Radio seventy seven WABC.

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<v Speaker 2>As we say it, the crown jewel of radio c

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<v Speaker 2>You next time with more interesting guests as we have

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<v Speaker 2>as we continue to move into the new year, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Thank you so much, Peter for spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with us and educating us on something that we really

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<v Speaker 2>need to use and have in our bag of tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you,
