Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to another episode of Well it's me,
Speaker 1: It's My Bizarre Adventure.
Speaker 2: That's right, Jeff, jeffs Bizarre Venture, Memi's Bizarre Adventure.
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Who has the microphone right now?
Speaker 3: As?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Jeff. As as hosts, you want to try and
Speaker 2: keep the intro in control, punchy and focused.
Speaker 1: John, I know.
Speaker 2: I know you don't have a lot of experience on podcasts,
Speaker 2: so I'm I maybe.
Speaker 1: Have done upwards of three thousand podcast episodes over my
Speaker 1: supremely uninteresting lifetime.
Speaker 4: Okay, the Kickstand one, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting, Jeff, But let me tell
Speaker 2: you it's not showing cool.
Speaker 1: Great to know. Nothing like a vote of confidence to
Speaker 1: get you.
Speaker 5: Off and running.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lucy, Tam. The Kickstand issue was not a podcast.
Speaker 1: That was a YouTube video that was miscredited to me.
Speaker 1: I'll have you know, check your back of our lore
Speaker 1: at the door. Okay, Yo, that's sick. I'm going to
Speaker 1: use back a log and back of lore for the
Speaker 1: rest of my days. Again.
Speaker 4: Welcome to Drift.
Speaker 1: Wow, Tam, that was low even for you.
Speaker 2: Was that a prophecy or a threat?
Speaker 4: Uh? Neither, We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well, the evidence is here in case we
Speaker 1: need it. That's right, it's Jeff Jeff's our adventure time, folks,
Speaker 1: thank you so very much for tuning in. I'm joined
Speaker 1: by three people who I'm not sure like me at all,
Speaker 1: but we'll go around the room and address them nevertheless.
Speaker 1: Lucy James, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good?
Speaker 6: We should do like the you know, the start of
Speaker 6: the Code and O'Brien show, where he's like, I'm Tom
Speaker 6: Hanks and I feel ex about being Cod and O'Brien's friend.
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you feel about me being my friend? Lucy?
Speaker 5: Feel pretty positive about being your friend at the moment.
Speaker 5: At the moment, I'll tell everything subject to change.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'll take what I can get. John super eyepatch Wolf,
Speaker 1: how are you pal? How do you feeling about being my friend? Bud?
Speaker 1: Buddy Jeff?
Speaker 2: I feel utterly jubilant at the thought of being your friend.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, things are looking up, only to be thrusted
Speaker 1: into the floor by the more who's saying how do
Speaker 1: you feel? And how do you feel about being my friend? Buddy? Boy?
Speaker 4: I feel tired and I need you to take it down.
Speaker 4: If you're notxious, it's pre nine o'clock here, you've clearly
Speaker 4: been up for a few hours already, and that is
Speaker 4: a privilege when it comes to energy levels. So we
Speaker 4: need you to be more sympathetic to the rest of us.
Speaker 1: I think it's a time zone issue that I can't
Speaker 1: be ill responsible for.
Speaker 4: I mean, you could be a little more considerate being
Speaker 4: in a time zone where you have.
Speaker 2: To Okay, we're closing in at five pm Irish time,
Speaker 2: and I gotta say that is wind down time. So
Speaker 2: again I have to kind of this is another kind
Speaker 2: of like little subtle thing about being a host. You
Speaker 2: want to kind of dial into your guest energy levels,
Speaker 2: and just accordingly, you're kind of flying off the handle
Speaker 2: doing your own thing here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, I will reel it in and
Speaker 1: and so I will simultaneously reel it in and hype
Speaker 1: it up for all of my friends in very different
Speaker 1: time zones peppered throughout the entire planet. We are going
Speaker 1: to recap episodes thirty four, I'm sorry, thirty three and
Speaker 1: thirty four that's sorry, the final two episodes in the
Speaker 1: July fifteenth four parter, which I have to admit at
Speaker 1: the top of your friends, this episode thirteen this part
Speaker 1: three of July fifteenth. I have not been more confused
Speaker 1: by a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure episode than this one. This
Speaker 1: one right here just just chewed me up and spatted
Speaker 1: me out in particular.
Speaker 2: That confused you. I thought it was all pretty pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: No, no, and I do. I'm trying to be serious,
Speaker 1: I really am. I feel like so many things were
Speaker 1: brought back from past arcs and minor details of storylines,
Speaker 1: and I really could not wrap my head around just
Speaker 1: exactly what we were doing here. If you have not
Speaker 1: been able to tell, I'll be driving this episode where
Speaker 1: we'll be recapping parts three and four of the July fifteenth,
Speaker 1: and I you know, am I gonna butcher some some
Speaker 1: character names it? It's entirely possible. So I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: the help of the group to sort of keep me
Speaker 1: honest here and make sure we're able to get through
Speaker 1: this with as little turbulence as possible. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 6: I'm also in the the Jeff camp here because I
Speaker 6: started watching it and I went I missed an episode.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forget where we landed. And also it's been
Speaker 5: like a few weeks since we've recorded here.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's it has been, and thank you
Speaker 1: for staying with us. We're gonna finish up. Diamond is incredible,
Speaker 1: hopefully by the end of the calendar you're here. Excuse me, incredible,
Speaker 1: Diamond is unbreakable. Sorry, all right, see you keep me honest.
Speaker 1: That's how I wanted to go for the rest of
Speaker 1: this fifty minutes or so. All right, we start back up.
Speaker 1: I guess in like the town square where uh, a
Speaker 1: piece of folded up paper was dropped by this new
Speaker 1: villain who's like Enigma, right, that's that's the stand user Enigma. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jo just picks up this this freaking piece of paper,
Speaker 1: starts unfolding it and.
Speaker 4: In Jojo history but.
Speaker 2: No arguments at all.
Speaker 5: This is I've even seen before. I knew it was
Speaker 5: from Jojo.
Speaker 1: This this felt like the dumbass magician. Like nothing on
Speaker 1: the front, nothing on the back. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, out of nowhere, a gun appears to reveal
Speaker 1: itself out the side of a blank piece of paper.
Speaker 1: It then fires directly at Joske.
Speaker 2: Point blank headshot. Incredible. What a what a moment of entertainment,
Speaker 2: What a moment of culture? This bits this is just
Speaker 2: absolutely so okay, please, Jeff Unpacked thrown into layers of
Speaker 2: elation upon this happening.
Speaker 1: When I saw the gun, I was watching it in
Speaker 1: bed with my wife that night, and like she was
Speaker 1: on her phone and I like granted her and I
Speaker 1: shook her and said, you gotta see this. You gotta
Speaker 1: see what's happening here. You gotta look at this fucking
Speaker 1: dumb ass gun coming out of this piece of paper.
Speaker 1: And she laughed. She was just like it was one
Speaker 1: of those like surprising like what like that, and which
Speaker 1: was because that's the right reaction to a thing like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's what this show is. And then
Speaker 1: she also said, oh wow, the animation has really improved
Speaker 1: since the first time I watched this. I'm like it
Speaker 1: has She's like, it's much more colorful and involved, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah it is. Uh So there's that sort
Speaker 1: of four year gap between watching Jojo, but yeah, I mean, sure,
Speaker 1: she's she's busy, but maybe one day we could figure
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 1: As we wrap here for Diamond is Unbreakable Enigma, and
Speaker 1: again we are we are going through the recap of
Speaker 1: these two episodes with the JoJo's bizarre encyclopedia.
Speaker 4: That's the Are you looking at notes right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ah, of course.
Speaker 4: Okay. I was gonna say, can you tell me the
Speaker 4: name of the stand to use it without looking at
Speaker 4: the notes?
Speaker 1: No, I cannot. I know the last name is Mia Modo.
Speaker 1: I'm looking here, but I'm not going to pronounce this
Speaker 1: person's first name here.
Speaker 4: I really want you to though, uh Torono suke. All right,
Speaker 4: let's move on.
Speaker 1: That was not bad?
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, well the internet judge know, suk. I just
Speaker 4: want to. I just want to out there to so
Speaker 4: people can come in and such a mean.
Speaker 1: Thing to set me up for failure and then not
Speaker 1: even tell me if I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's right.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Let me give you guys a pro strap in for
Speaker 2: pronouncing Japanese names online. Okay, ah, just mute the word
Speaker 2: pronounced in your comments and never worry about it again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, just don't.
Speaker 1: Just don't know.
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: Why should I not attempt to? That's not that's not fair.
Speaker 1: It's like okay to do that. I was just going
Speaker 1: to call this person.
Speaker 4: Enigma eliminated eight percent of announcements of people dying like
Speaker 4: anytime someone says someone has been pronounced dead, John doesn't
Speaker 4: hear it.
Speaker 2: Only in my YouTube comments section, We're very few, were
Speaker 2: very where, very few people to choose to announce their obituaries.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good idea though.
Speaker 1: Okay, back to the town square, back to the gun,
Speaker 1: back to Enigma, back to Joske almost getting shot. So
Speaker 1: apparently there is a situation where the Enigma stand, Right,
Speaker 1: it's a very weak stand. It's described here in the
Speaker 1: wiki and by Enigma himself cannot kill anyone because of
Speaker 1: how weak he is, Right, I really feel when was
Speaker 1: that a.
Speaker 2: Stand that this stand user kind of being like, my
Speaker 2: stands so weak? And what he literally means is it
Speaker 2: can fold people into a piece of paper, but I
Speaker 2: have to tear the piece of paper or destroy the
Speaker 2: piece of paper for them to die. And I gotta say,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a weak stand. I think my
Speaker 2: dude is being a little modest here.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you can kill somebody just by tearing paper,
Speaker 1: that seems like maybe a little op there, right Like?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I also got ready confused because I watched it
Speaker 6: on crunchy roll and the stand is called Mysterioso on there,
Speaker 6: it was like, the fuck is Enigma?
Speaker 1: I guess it's the same meaning, but like.
Speaker 5: I looked it up.
Speaker 6: So Enigma is the electronic musical project and Mysterio so
Speaker 6: is a Thelonious Monk song slash album.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Okay, well that kind of tracks with
Speaker 1: the naming convention of Jojo. So I guess we can
Speaker 1: let both things fly. Uh, if you're following along, you
Speaker 1: don't remember from the last episode, Enigma is able to
Speaker 1: like enigmas stand praise on uh, fear tells by its victims. Right,
Speaker 1: So like when someone who's potentially Enigma's pray, they exhibit
Speaker 1: a telltale sign of their fear. That is when Enigma
Speaker 1: is able to sort of pounce on the victim. That
Speaker 1: is when he's able to drag you into the folded
Speaker 1: paper dimension.
Speaker 5: Right, How does a gun show fear?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: I think it's just an object. He can just store it,
Speaker 1: like now space. Is Joske just scared of guns? Is
Speaker 1: that a thing we're realizing or is this like just ancillary?
Speaker 2: I think he's scared of guns being pointed at him?
Speaker 1: Who isn't.
Speaker 4: The paper doesn't manifest your fear, does it? I don't
Speaker 4: think the paper is just like it's a it's.
Speaker 6: Once he knows your fear, tell he can use that
Speaker 6: to push you in the paper.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Papers are just like little poke balls full of
Speaker 4: ship that he can yes unleas.
Speaker 2: So it's it's like weakening a pokemon to trap it.
Speaker 2: Instead it's showing it. It's worse, it's making it afraid,
Speaker 2: but a much darker game.
Speaker 4: Does that mean that what's inside that paper? Is it
Speaker 4: someone pointing a gun or is it a gun which
Speaker 4: he is now controlling violent paper?
Speaker 2: I think inside that paper is the stand user holding
Speaker 2: a gun push like out of the paper.
Speaker 4: Okay, the stand user or the stand.
Speaker 3: I guess could be the guns. It's got to be
Speaker 3: it's in front of him. Yeah yeah, okay, Nigma doing
Speaker 3: it right like ye. Anyway, through all this, Joeske bites
Speaker 3: his lip right, which is his telltale sign of fear,
Speaker 3: and then it's.
Speaker 2: Capture drawing of him biting his lip like.
Speaker 1: No one draws biting lips the way these guys do, no, uh,
Speaker 1: and then he is then captured, right. So what is
Speaker 1: tough to follow along is like where Joske sort of
Speaker 1: temporarily goes after this happens because again, we we understand
Speaker 1: that like that is showing your fear is how you
Speaker 1: become entrapped, but it is not immediately clear where Joski
Speaker 1: then goes because he also like catches the bullet that
Speaker 1: is fired.
Speaker 2: Is that right, He catches the bullet, but the bullet
Speaker 2: nearly hits him the bullet, so yeah, he catches the bullet,
Speaker 2: and but it's after that that he bites his lip,
Speaker 2: right right, yeah, so catches he beare him all the
Speaker 2: way in.
Speaker 1: The time the bullet is fired from the gun and
Speaker 1: when he catches it could be perhaps when he bites
Speaker 1: his lip in fear.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to review the footage here, because yeah,
Speaker 2: this is there's a lot I don't think going on here.
Speaker 4: I don't remember any bullet catching business.
Speaker 1: Oh he catches a bullet between thumb.
Speaker 5: I thought, uh, his stand catches the bullet.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe yeah.
Speaker 1: Diamond Yeah, a diamonds that's the same thing. That's the
Speaker 1: same thing, same thing, right, Come on, I'm splitting hairs here.
Speaker 1: Joe was under the impression that was trapped in paper,
Speaker 1: but turns out that is not true. Right, that also happened, So.
Speaker 4: He coach he is trapped in paper. But the paper
Speaker 4: he's showing him and saying this is coach is not
Speaker 4: the paper that he's trapped.
Speaker 1: It's a block, got it, Okay's.
Speaker 4: To kind of manipulate.
Speaker 1: Joe Skates then vows that he's going to kill Enigma,
Speaker 1: and through all this it ends with Enigma manifesting a
Speaker 1: taxi out of another sheet of paper, taking him to
Speaker 1: the Mario Grand Hotel.
Speaker 2: I love that bit so much. I it just okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, Araki, you could have just have him
Speaker 2: calling a taxi and getting into it. Nope, No, he's
Speaker 2: gonna unfold a giant piece of origami and out of
Speaker 2: it is going to come a taxi with a taxi
Speaker 2: driver pre installed pre installed.
Speaker 4: Those are a bit where he almost gets back out
Speaker 4: of the paper, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all over the place. Let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: Highway Star is also sort of like witnessing all of this,
Speaker 1: and Highway Star, we know, is like the tattooed sort
Speaker 1: of like punk rock motorcycle guy. Right, that's his that's
Speaker 1: his deal, and and he seems like a temporary ally
Speaker 1: of Joske is sort of like where his current status
Speaker 1: exists have that right, Yes, yeah, okay, and and so
Speaker 1: so Highway Star is uh pursuing enigma and grabs onto
Speaker 1: the taxi. They then arrive at the hotel. Is that correct? No? No,
Speaker 1: here's what happens. Sorry, sorry, something else, way more important
Speaker 1: happens that I just forgot. Okay, listen to what I
Speaker 1: have to say. So Highway Star realizes that this is
Speaker 1: all like a paper situation, right, and finds Joske and
Speaker 1: Koichi possibly being pulled into a gigantic paper shredder. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's right correct?
Speaker 5: Wait did we do we miss the explosion bit?
Speaker 1: No, let's see what was that in the car?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
Speaker 6: When did you watch this episode this morning and you've
Speaker 6: got the notes in front of you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see the explosion part.
Speaker 6: With the pieces of paper in the backseat of the
Speaker 6: car and to open it and then it turns into
Speaker 6: the thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not it's not it's not that. The
Speaker 1: description of the shredder is how it comes outlined here.
Speaker 5: It's not the evil shredder attacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, so Highway So I'm sorry you you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: is Highway Star? Do I have that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I believe that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is correct. Yeah, okay cool. Uh so
Speaker 1: so now explain me. Explained to me the explosion with
Speaker 1: the paper thing, because I don't remember that. All I
Speaker 1: remember is there being a gigantic indestructible paper shredder.
Speaker 6: Well, so there's two pieces of paper on the on
Speaker 6: the backseat of the taxi.
Speaker 1: All right, one's like stuck in the door.
Speaker 6: There's another one stuck in the door, and then he
Speaker 6: opens it and it.
Speaker 5: Exlo what does it do?
Speaker 1: I don't remember an explosion, but I remember they were
Speaker 1: like they're like one of these papers is a decoy
Speaker 1: and the other one is the is the is the test?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Because start it starts a fire, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: I watched it yesterday, so my memory is and then
Speaker 6: I slept for like twelve hours.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, John the voice everything. So, first of all,
Speaker 2: on mystery, the first what makes Joe Ka bite his
Speaker 2: lip is that he watches yu Ya throw Kueechi locked
Speaker 2: in the paper dimension in the tar of under the
Speaker 2: tires of a speeding car, and there he bites his
Speaker 2: lips and he himself gets sucked into the paper dimension.
Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't joking when I said at the top
Speaker 1: of this. This was the most confusing episode of JoJo's
Speaker 1: Bizarre Adventure I've ever written.
Speaker 4: Enigma throws the paper y is on that.
Speaker 2: I think. What maybe doesn't help a little bit, Jeff,
Speaker 2: is that we're jumping back and forth between the Yuya
Speaker 2: fight and Rohan's strange adventure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, Rohan is dealing with like a back
Speaker 1: enemy this whole time. That's sort of like peppered in
Speaker 1: which we'll get to of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there is a course, there is an.
Speaker 1: Explosion on the car, okay, and and and and so
Speaker 1: that is involving the two pieces of paper that are
Speaker 1: in the taxi. Is that what we're saying.
Speaker 2: Yes, So basically, there's one piece of paper on the
Speaker 2: back seat of the taxi, and Highways Star assumes that
Speaker 2: that's going to be yu Ya. But then in the
Speaker 2: in the door of the taxi, there is a second
Speaker 2: piece of paper, and in that piece of paper is
Speaker 2: an explosion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, explosion and a piece of paper.
Speaker 4: Okay, and you Yea is not Enigma, Enigma and is
Speaker 4: Miyamoto Uya is the one on their side? Ya Ya
Speaker 4: is Highway Star, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's
Speaker 4: I believe that's what we know.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, I think I got a bit mixed up there.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I might have said that before you.
Speaker 4: The paper is he's trying to trick them into believing
Speaker 4: that's what where his friends are trapped in. So he
Speaker 4: goes into.
Speaker 2: Stars the stand highway star uh, karate chops the explosion,
Speaker 2: making it non effective, which is how you deal with
Speaker 2: an explosion. I was you ever find an explosion rushing
Speaker 2: at you take your favorite martial arts technique and just kind.
Speaker 4: Of and just it will show to the show to
Speaker 4: the fire people that you play hockey, even see how
Speaker 4: how many of them actually.
Speaker 2: The audio so we'll all describe whatever. Jeff's actually I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What was the task?
Speaker 4: I said? You know the firemen that you play hockey
Speaker 4: with that you said earlier? Sure, yeah, yeah, show them
Speaker 4: that scene and see how accurate it is.
Speaker 1: Oh like if that is, like, is this a vifle
Speaker 1: tactic in fighting fire?
Speaker 4: Yeah, firefighter expert explains.
Speaker 2: It could save some lives.
Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, I mean it's it's look, it's educational if
Speaker 1: nothing nothing less. I mean, I gotta get that, gotta
Speaker 1: get that out there. Okay, God, I'm just trying.
Speaker 5: To really let's go to the shredder. We'll go to
Speaker 5: the shredder.
Speaker 2: Okay, we could, oh god, but then we would miss
Speaker 2: both the scorpions and the acid falling out.
Speaker 4: So from that point on, he's trying to uh Memo,
Speaker 4: is trying to make you express his fear response by
Speaker 4: one using electric the machinery smell, which when he touches
Speaker 4: it charges him and electrocutes him. So that doesn't work.
Speaker 4: And then he uses like scorpions as well and ascid.
Speaker 5: He doesn't know, he doesn't know what the smell is
Speaker 5: for scorpions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then that's when the shredder appears.
Speaker 1: After Alright, he's sniffing the whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then the Shredder after electricity, it becomes the shredder
Speaker 4: and starts shredding the papers.
Speaker 2: And just to be clear, we have a shredder that's
Speaker 2: been stored in a magical piece of paper that connects
Speaker 2: to a pocket dimension which has been unreleased and is
Speaker 2: now shredding the paper containing two of our heroes, two
Speaker 2: separate pieces of paper containing two separate heroes, Joe Ski
Speaker 2: and Koichi, and Yuya is doing his absolute best to
Speaker 2: save them, but his stand is not strong enough to
Speaker 2: destroy a paper shredder, which in my existence, that's not
Speaker 2: a very strong stand in.
Speaker 4: That case, No, unless a special paper shredder, it must
Speaker 4: be an epsom one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean only the best.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: However, that is where Yuya does express his fear when
Speaker 1: he believes that all hope is lost for Joske and Koichi.
Speaker 1: He touches his chin and is then taken prisoner by Enigma. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's what at all I guess.
Speaker 4: So I don't understand how this turns into a hey
Speaker 4: like he turns the tides on. This doesn't make any
Speaker 4: sense to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I believe I can explain it.
Speaker 1: It has to do with someone closing only one eye,
Speaker 1: right John, No? No, okay, sorry, go on.
Speaker 2: So now, uh, yu Yah is paper thin, he is
Speaker 2: able to reach his hand into the bells of the
Speaker 2: paper shredder and unfold joe Ski and Kuechi so that
Speaker 2: they are released from the paper dimension.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but as the paper is going in, he has
Speaker 4: a separate piece of paper with his stand on it.
Speaker 4: So and then it cuts to inside the machine and
Speaker 4: his stand stand's leg is coming out of the paper,
Speaker 4: so it's remanifesting into the normal world to put its
Speaker 4: foot on the machinery that moves to the paper shredder,
Speaker 4: which then allows him to pull it. Doesn't make a
Speaker 4: why is that a stand allowed a half manifest back out.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. What is amazing to me
Speaker 1: about this is not only the mental gymnastics one must
Speaker 1: do to try and wrap their heads around what is
Speaker 1: exactly happening. But how did they even like draw this, Like,
Speaker 1: how did they even get this together? And all all
Speaker 1: agree that like these were the assets that needed to
Speaker 1: be drawn and then somehow like string them together. I'm
Speaker 1: absolutely flabbergasted that they were able to like make this
Speaker 1: sequence even happen.
Speaker 4: So like the stand stops the machinery to prevent the
Speaker 4: shredding by somehow being able to re manifest itself, which
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense because they try and set up earlier
Speaker 4: with Joe Skei remanifesting himself like pushing his way back
Speaker 4: out of the paper. But the only way he could
Speaker 4: do that was because he held onto that piece of
Speaker 4: iron that got pulled through from the real world and
Speaker 4: then use his own standability to reverse the damage on it,
Speaker 4: thus pulling him back into the new to the real world.
Speaker 4: So that's a feasible way of him pushing his way
Speaker 4: Diamond does. Yeah, but like the Highway Star doesn't do
Speaker 4: anything like that. It doesn't have the power to do that.
Speaker 4: It's only a power is to pursue to like to
Speaker 4: like go fast with footprints. Yeah, exactly, so effectively, there
Speaker 4: is no way for this to happen. Like it's just
Speaker 4: pure nonsense.
Speaker 1: It is the most incoherent I'm just gonna say, I
Speaker 1: think this part kind of sucks. Like this came, but
Speaker 1: this part of it is.
Speaker 4: Like really confusing this episode. Yes, it's like what Yes,
Speaker 4: that's what I don't understand why.
Speaker 2: I'll say, the interdimensional nature of the paper is not
Speaker 2: properly explained to us, but I think some kind of
Speaker 2: portal effect is happening. Where is it explained?
Speaker 1: Fine, but yeah, how do they do it in them? Okay?
Speaker 1: But John what I said at the top. It's also
Speaker 1: because Enigma is like introduced in a very sort of
Speaker 1: non contextual way, right, Like it's the end of part
Speaker 1: two of July fifteenth, when you first understand like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: Enigma is someone else who's not Kira and who's not
Speaker 1: uh you know, like and it's just like you're like,
Speaker 1: what and he's like a paper boy and hype. I
Speaker 1: agree with that.
Speaker 2: I would have much preferred to say, like you do
Speaker 2: Enigma in one part, you do the Tower Guy in
Speaker 2: another part, and you do you do the backstand in
Speaker 2: a third part, and then maybe a fourth part is
Speaker 2: just Kira. But I think they try and intersperse them
Speaker 2: throughout these episodes, and I think it's kind of cool
Speaker 2: what they're doing, like they really want to convey that
Speaker 2: this is all happening on the same day. I think
Speaker 2: it makes it stand. It's very hard to follow, especially
Speaker 2: considering some of these stands are the most confusing in
Speaker 2: the entire show.
Speaker 4: I also think most almost every stand that has been
Speaker 4: in the last few episodes Enemy Stand has been paper thin.
Speaker 4: Not to you know, but I don't think. I feel
Speaker 4: like if they spent an episode in any one of
Speaker 4: these stands, it would be awful because he just doesn't
Speaker 4: have any juice with any of them, Like they Tower
Speaker 4: Guy stand.
Speaker 1: That is silly.
Speaker 4: That was an entire episode and it was pretty terrible,
Speaker 4: Like there's no real rules for it created. It's not
Speaker 4: like old school humery stuff. It's just like, yeah, what
Speaker 4: if I had this. It's like a thought, not an
Speaker 4: idea currently, which seems to be a lot of this
Speaker 4: whole part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have to move on, but I agree,
Speaker 1: I think there's a I think they tried to pack
Speaker 1: way too much into this four parter, and as a consequence,
Speaker 1: were left with a very incoherent scene that basically renders
Speaker 1: out with Enigma becoming a book himself and the gang
Speaker 1: driving to the Moreial library and just sort of like,
Speaker 1: how does he become?
Speaker 2: He could just he's so scared by what by what
Speaker 2: Crazy Diamond is about to do doing to him that
Speaker 2: he turns into multiple pieces of paper and is on
Speaker 2: he became Okay, look I'm gonna leave the screenshot explain.
Speaker 4: This punched He gets punched hard.
Speaker 2: A book with lips and eyes. Yeah, it says he
Speaker 2: became a book and is thus unable to fight.
Speaker 4: It seems like Crazy Diamond punches him so hard that
Speaker 4: he becomes sheets of paper and then is like magic,
Speaker 4: clear book.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know his stan power goes haywire
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 6: Right, A friend of mine professionally repairs books and binds
Speaker 6: them and stuff.
Speaker 5: I think it's really cool.
Speaker 1: That is very cool.
Speaker 5: Those little videos of it on his Instagram. I really
Speaker 5: enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Okay, please send that along. We'll share it with the audience. Okay.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the end of Enigma. We do like
Speaker 1: a little like recap about like, oh and if you
Speaker 1: ask to borrow the book, you can hear screams and
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of Google.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but they don't. But they don't let you
Speaker 5: take it outside of the library.
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 5: I like that little thing where it was like you
Speaker 5: can only read it in the.
Speaker 1: Library, a feeble tempt at redeeming the story arc, but
Speaker 1: nevertheless falling fairly flat, no pun intended. Let's get back
Speaker 1: to Rohan.
Speaker 2: If I may, if I may give my take on
Speaker 2: this episode, please dog in that it is like it
Speaker 2: is a difficult fight to follow.
Speaker 1: It's some weak shit. Say it. It's some weak ass shit.
Speaker 2: But to me, I'm always going to come to Jojo
Speaker 2: for absurd spectacle over tight coherent plotting.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, John, but I think it's so
Speaker 1: convoluted and needlessly complex. Here, I'm with you. I come
Speaker 1: to this show because I want to just be stupefied, right,
Speaker 1: I want to be like knocked over the head with nonsense.
Speaker 1: But this seemed like why not make them? You know,
Speaker 1: it was almost like a car wash of it. When
Speaker 1: I just needed to like have one silly thing and
Speaker 1: go on, they overloaded it.
Speaker 4: The core of these fights are supposed to be a
Speaker 4: chess game where every piece is an absurd piece and
Speaker 4: every move is an absurd move and impossible. Well, ultimately
Speaker 4: there is a back and forth of like, you know,
Speaker 4: I move hair, you move hair, and then check me.
Speaker 4: There's not a fair. There is no rules underlying any
Speaker 4: of these fights. Then there's no like strategic back and forth.
Speaker 4: It's just ha ha, I'm a paper now. Actually I'm
Speaker 4: not really a paper. Now, you're a book. And it's like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck are you? It looks like Heraki just
Speaker 4: like absolutely phone this one in.
Speaker 1: Iraqi, do any controlled or what do we know about?
Speaker 4: I think he needs to do them?
Speaker 2: You know what a scary answer, Jeff? I think is nor.
Speaker 1: Stone cold sober.
Speaker 5: It's like like the.
Speaker 6: Family Guy joke about Stephen King and the scary lamp
Speaker 6: and they're like, Okay, Stephen, what's next and he goes, oh,
Speaker 6: it's a story about this lamb. Sometimes, like I feel
Speaker 6: like Iraqi is like look around at his desk.
Speaker 5: He's like, what can I do?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 5: A paper stand? There we go.
Speaker 2: There is definitely like a Hideo Kajuma and Wiki.
Speaker 4: All right, let's calm down. You don't need to bring
Speaker 4: Kajima into this.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: I was relenting. I was relenting, and now I hear some.
Speaker 4: Sympthaesis she needs to be there's a reason. All right.
Speaker 1: Now I'm back on team John though. Yep, okay, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Back your words indeeds I do every day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, tell me something I don't know. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to Rohan Rohan. However, I say Rohan Rohan whatever.
Speaker 1: He's having a he's having a situation with mister back
Speaker 1: boy Maso. And uh, if you recall from the previous part, uh,
Speaker 1: who's like an I says, he's an architect who wants
Speaker 1: to come into the house insurance, right because because Romans
Speaker 1: apparently has like half burned down and only in very
Speaker 1: specific places and not like the the entirety of the home,
Speaker 1: just in very specific spots, as is demonstrated when Massaso
Speaker 1: falls through a hole in the second floor hallway which
Speaker 1: was covered by which is which is which is a
Speaker 1: lah the money pit with Tom Hanks. Right, have you
Speaker 1: seen the money Pit?
Speaker 2: No, there's an actual pit and money pit.
Speaker 1: The money pit. Tom Hanks was in an eighties movie
Speaker 1: called The money Pit where he and his wife buy
Speaker 1: a fixer upper new home and it's a money pit
Speaker 1: because the amount of money that it was required to
Speaker 1: fix this.
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of what I thought. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess the way it led me to believe there's
Speaker 2: a literal pit that Tom Hanks traps people in in
Speaker 2: that movie.
Speaker 1: I mean again, he does fall into the exact like
Speaker 1: I can't wait to show you the scene where Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks falls through a hole in the floor that is
Speaker 1: covered by a rug, and it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: And maybe, like Iraqi is so huge on movie movies
Speaker 2: that I would say it is nearly definitely where he
Speaker 2: got that.
Speaker 4: It has to be, I don't think so. I feel
Speaker 4: like that he put his whole brain into figuring out
Speaker 4: a way of setting up a situation where every Rohan
Speaker 4: can came back, and that is what he came up with.
Speaker 1: Every stand is named after a seventies or eighties band.
Speaker 1: There's no way this eighties obsessed dude did not see
Speaker 1: the money Pit and was like, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be a funny way to show Rohan for a few.
Speaker 2: Of the money Pit.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's like one hundred episodes of Looney Tunes
Speaker 4: where that's happening.
Speaker 1: Like, it's not a UNI. This is the most Looney
Speaker 1: Tunes that ship anyway anyway.
Speaker 4: And also I looked like he like did it on
Speaker 4: purpose because he's like, oh he did.
Speaker 2: I think he because he was trying to see the
Speaker 2: dudes back, because I think the previous episodes is Rohan
Speaker 2: being like, so, how about you showed me that show
Speaker 2: me that back, and the.
Speaker 1: Guy's like, no, no, no, you don't want that anyway,
Speaker 1: Mesaso's stuck in the floor, Rohan fails to notice anything
Speaker 1: weird about the dude's back, who starts to like freak
Speaker 1: out because he knows his back is exposed. Now, then
Speaker 1: we finally get the stand reveal the reason he does
Speaker 1: not want anyone to see his back is because of
Speaker 1: cheap trick. Another eighties seventies.
Speaker 4: I have a question, and this is a very specific
Speaker 4: moment that I just need an explanation for.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it, buddy, do you have it up the episode?
Speaker 2: So there's a moment where he's the episode here, Tom,
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 4: On Netflix or somewhere else?
Speaker 1: Crunch, crunch.
Speaker 4: Okay, So there's a bit right at the start where
Speaker 4: he's trapped in it in the hole and Rohan is
Speaker 4: like standing above him and looking at him, and he's drooling.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, yes, and then he's like and then it's rabbinous.
Speaker 4: And then it cuts to a close up where it's
Speaker 4: like panning up his face and he's still drooling, but
Speaker 4: then drool lands on his face.
Speaker 1: Oh the right, yea, But where does.
Speaker 4: That drool come from?
Speaker 2: So I think, okay, I'm watching it here, and I
Speaker 2: think the implication is that it's this stand hovering over him,
Speaker 2: drooling over his shoulder.
Speaker 4: But then it cuts to the next The very next
Speaker 4: frame is him in a completely different position with no
Speaker 4: drawl on his face.
Speaker 2: It's it's a little drool. There's right, this is there
Speaker 2: is something got cut here.
Speaker 4: It looks like someone came and dribbled on him and
Speaker 4: then ran off for us a weird I'm with you,
Speaker 4: And then it cuts back to him close up and
Speaker 4: he's drooling again.
Speaker 2: Yep, No, you're right, you're right. Something strange happened here.
Speaker 2: There is some such shot substitute for another shot. I
Speaker 2: think what's meant to be happening is the stand is
Speaker 2: meant to be drooling on him, And I think, then
Speaker 2: you're meant to get a shot off the stand. I
Speaker 2: wonder if you look in the manga, is there a
Speaker 2: panel there where they reveal this that for the first time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe interesting. Uh okay, that's a really good call out there, Tam.
Speaker 1: I had that confusion as well, watching them, like what
Speaker 1: is that? Because they show you one frame it looks
Speaker 1: so he looks like he's been like possessed in like
Speaker 1: ravenous and it's like so weird. We do get cheap
Speaker 1: tricks reveal and he's an ugly little spud. He's just
Speaker 1: a fucking little.
Speaker 5: I love the way he just keeps saying like nick.
Speaker 1: Nick, you know, like yeah, he's just like he's like
Speaker 1: the photos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a speech affectation, which is like he's saying
Speaker 4: right at the end of everything.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's pretty gross. He's pretty gross. Uh. And
Speaker 1: Rohan is like obviously demonstrabily upset. He uh sees Massago
Speaker 1: basically like his back get ripped off and he's in
Speaker 1: a bad way and he's all shitty and shrinking up
Speaker 1: into a husk of a human. Uh. And but then
Speaker 1: Cheap Trick basically latches onto Rohan's back, and now he
Speaker 1: is possessed by the stand and you know, obviously this
Speaker 1: little freaks town him to like burn up all his
Speaker 1: photos and whatnot. It's upsetting. Rohan has decided that he
Speaker 1: has to go out into the world and prevent anyone
Speaker 1: from seeing his back because he does not want to
Speaker 1: have Cheap Trick possess anyone else, and he now has to.
Speaker 1: He now decides that he must go and inform Kiyochi
Speaker 1: about Cheap Trick, and that is where Part three of
Speaker 1: July fifteenth concludes. Overall, I think we summed it up
Speaker 1: fairly well. One of the most incomprehensible episodes of this podcast,
Speaker 1: of this I'm sorry of this anime that we've ever witnessed,
Speaker 1: and nearly impossible to recap. But nevertheless, there was a
Speaker 1: lot going on us.
Speaker 5: There was a lot going on, going much to think about.
Speaker 1: Yes, nevertheless, we we continue on the final part Part
Speaker 1: four of the July fifteenth four parter. Uh. Rohan is
Speaker 1: trapped in a situation where he can only get rid
Speaker 1: of yes, tim.
Speaker 4: I looked at the manga and there's no explanation for
Speaker 4: this drawll thing. Oh my god, the drool's in there,
Speaker 4: the drawl is in there, but it's on him. But
Speaker 4: then it doesn't doesn't as far as I can tell,
Speaker 4: there's no shot of drawl landing on his face like
Speaker 4: there is at an anime.
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody right in, somebody tweet us explain this if you.
Speaker 2: Have, it has to be they were they at some
Speaker 2: point in the storyboards for this episode, they're like, you
Speaker 2: know what, we should add it in and reveal the
Speaker 2: standard here. So okay, But then later on.
Speaker 4: Okay, there's a there's a shot of him drawling, and
Speaker 4: then there's a shot of his hand on the floor
Speaker 4: where there's drops of drawl landing there. So it like
Speaker 4: cuts to his hand on the floor where he's like
Speaker 4: keels over and he's dribble is like falling onto the ground.
Speaker 4: That shot isn't in the anime instead of droll on
Speaker 4: his face. For some reason, it's so weird, very weird.
Speaker 2: Very much. I think definitely like a storyboard issue or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little malfunction. Nevertheless, we continue on. Kuichi shows
Speaker 1: up at Rohan's house and Rohan's like, yo, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: not joking. There's like this backstand on me. I know
Speaker 1: we've been through a lot together. I know I've like
Speaker 1: sort of been a shit shitty person to you, but like, please,
Speaker 1: my man, like Kuichi, we gotta get me some help.
Speaker 1: And Kuichi, it's just like, I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: know we've been through some ship. I know I've seen
Speaker 1: a plenty amount of shit myself, but I don't believe
Speaker 1: you at all.
Speaker 2: And I yeah, I know by this later in the episode,
Speaker 2: but the whole train of logic of listen, I came
Speaker 2: here to tell you to be careful about enemy stunds.
Speaker 2: I'm here, you are joking that you're being attacked by
Speaker 2: an enemy. I can't do this.
Speaker 5: And it's like this is just too far from me.
Speaker 1: It's like Koch he shows him, uh Masazo's like shriveled corpse.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: He's like, check, get a load of this. Well you
Speaker 1: think this came from the sky And he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still don't believe you. Prop me.
Speaker 6: Well, were well done on making that one a boy
Speaker 6: so insane.
Speaker 1: So Koechi has no he'd in no way does Koichi's
Speaker 1: personality lend himself to behave the way he does here?
Speaker 1: I would I would like to pose it, right.
Speaker 5: I think what has happened too much of a heel
Speaker 5: turned for him.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really, it's so insane. So Koechi leaves and
Speaker 1: Rohan's like, oh my god, I gotta go go to
Speaker 1: joj ro and the hotel and and basically like get
Speaker 1: his help and have to basically get through the entire
Speaker 1: town somehow without showing anyone my back because if someone
Speaker 1: does seem my back, I die and then they get
Speaker 1: possessed by cheap trick exactly. Also, the the that seventies
Speaker 1: show theme song right keeping it at the end, they
Speaker 1: do that We're all all right, We're all all right.
Speaker 1: That's a cheap trick song, I believe as well.
Speaker 5: No, I've never seen the seventy show really, but also.
Speaker 4: Came on like in the UK are like a really
Speaker 4: weird time.
Speaker 5: I think it was on Sky. I didn't have that.
Speaker 4: I came on Channel four like eight pm when everyone
Speaker 4: else was like watching all the ship.
Speaker 6: I also vindicated because of Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutscher apparently.
Speaker 1: Being there's just a whole bunch of there's a real
Speaker 1: hive of the real rotten core at at the center
Speaker 1: of that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard like the set of that show was
Speaker 2: like not a super fun place to be sometimes as well.
Speaker 6: And also Mila Kunis was underage and lied toget the
Speaker 6: and then she ends up kissing in Ashton Kusha when
Speaker 6: she was like fifteen and he was like nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't worry, we'll get to plenty of that soon.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well anyway, not really.
Speaker 1: Not really, but but just like equally as troubling, I guess. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Rohan is forced back like an absolute freakazoid as he
Speaker 1: makes his way to the hotel, making sure that nobody
Speaker 1: sees his back. In one instance which I kind of love,
Speaker 1: he basically like glues himself to a pedestrian who's crossing
Speaker 1: an intersection and uses his stand Heaven's door to like
Speaker 1: right into the pedestrian's mind that he cannot turn around.
Speaker 2: I love this little sequence. It's so it was fun.
Speaker 2: This was so fun, very fun.
Speaker 1: This was this was really fun. Rohan eventually gets himself
Speaker 1: into an alley where all these cats and dogs are
Speaker 1: looking at him and cheap trick is like the cheap
Speaker 1: trick is like yo dog. Literally, I can speak to
Speaker 1: animals and I can make them fuck you up whenever
Speaker 1: I want, and that I tell.
Speaker 5: Them that you like killing cats and dogs.
Speaker 4: They're eating cats and they're eating the dogs.
Speaker 2: I love. I love, just even the absurdity of like Rohan,
Speaker 2: there's like nineteen cats and dogs surrounding you. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: any of them see your back. It's just I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's so funny.
Speaker 1: And they're all gonna lunge at you. Just at the
Speaker 1: very last moment, I guess struck with some sort of
Speaker 1: like sense that maybe the situation he went to investigate
Speaker 1: he had it completely wrong. Kochi shows up and freezes
Speaker 1: all of the animals using Echos Act three, because don't forget,
Speaker 1: that's like the third version of his stand and that's
Speaker 1: what he's like. An animal. He's an animal freezer. Now,
Speaker 1: don't forget right, don't forget everyone.
Speaker 2: At some point, Echoes Act three was meant to like
Speaker 2: have an on a Moatopeia part of it, where he
Speaker 2: can make things do like the word yeah. He can
Speaker 2: make he can make the sound of words and make
Speaker 2: them do that. But then at some point that just
Speaker 2: became make things heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's like, yeah, you're right, man, You're right. Oh god,
Speaker 1: this the arc of the stand is is so spectacularly stupid.
Speaker 1: Koichi is like, oh, don't worry Rohanna. You know I
Speaker 1: was watching you after you left your house, and I
Speaker 1: saw that, and you kept going with the bit of
Speaker 1: having no of you not wanting anyone to see her back.
Speaker 1: And that's why I believe you now, and I knew
Speaker 1: you must have been telling the truth. So that is
Speaker 1: why I followed you into this alleyway and rescued rescue
Speaker 1: you from all these possessed dogs and cats. He then
Speaker 1: shows uh. Koichi is then made aware of Cheap Trick
Speaker 1: himself and attempts to use Act three freeze to pry
Speaker 1: Cheap Trick off his back, but finds out that once
Speaker 1: Cheap Trick is removed, h it's all going to end
Speaker 1: in a real bad way. So he abandons this and
Speaker 1: they're forced to sort of take on a cheap Trick
Speaker 1: with a different strategy. Do you all remember what's about
Speaker 1: to happen here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, He like shuffles two feet to the left and
Speaker 4: unveils as plan.
Speaker 1: Which is so really odd. So I found this to
Speaker 1: be really stupid but also kind of cool.
Speaker 4: I love I love that.
Speaker 5: I've completely forgotten about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good execution on like his plan, but
Speaker 4: it was like he was literally a foot away from
Speaker 4: this point and went through all that three Freeze ship
Speaker 4: and could have just been like listening, shut up.
Speaker 2: He does kind of do nothing this episode.
Speaker 4: He just like shows up injures him, and then carries on.
Speaker 1: The cool thing is Koichi. I don't know if Kochi
Speaker 1: like also realized where they were geographically in town, right,
Speaker 1: but it's very cool how Kochi just like stays still
Speaker 1: and is looking forward the whole time, right. And then
Speaker 1: that's when I realized what was gonna happen too, because
Speaker 1: they show you like the sort of mailbox that was there,
Speaker 1: and then immediately I was then transported back to like
Speaker 1: this ghost alley where if you look backwards you get
Speaker 1: fucked up by like the demon hands, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happens to a cheap Trick. He cheap Trick turns
Speaker 1: around towards Koichi and is sucked into Remy's Alley, which,
Speaker 1: if you will remember, is the ghost alley that the
Speaker 1: Afterlife lives in. It's the only place in Morea where
Speaker 1: this happens, and Morio, sorry, where this happens, and he
Speaker 1: is consumed and sent to hell literal hell, as is
Speaker 1: written by Heaven's door.
Speaker 2: Watch. I would watch like a four hour video essay
Speaker 2: of you just explaining the entirety of JoJo's bizarre adventure.
Speaker 1: You like how this is going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is pretty great.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Bud, appreciate that. I like that courage. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what happened the ghost Dally returns. It's a
Speaker 1: callback from earlier in the season, and that's where you
Speaker 1: know a Cheap Trick is banished to now Cheap Trick
Speaker 1: is also a stand who's like a self contained stand. Right,
Speaker 1: Cheap Trick has no human affiliation as far as we're aware.
Speaker 1: Parasite is just a parasite stand. Very good, sent to hell,
Speaker 1: see you later, get out of here.
Speaker 2: And the fact that Rohan writ's going to hell on
Speaker 2: him as he does pretty good. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. We can close the book on
Speaker 1: Cheap Trick. Cheap Trick's done zo. We now have to
Speaker 1: tidy up this four parter and get back to Kira
Speaker 1: because we've abandoned Kira for most of these episodes, and
Speaker 1: he's got his own shit that's boiling and is about
Speaker 1: to overflow here. He's he's going around town. His nails
Speaker 1: are growing like crazy. He can't help it.
Speaker 2: Where is nails growing, Jeff?
Speaker 1: Because he just needs the murder. He needs the murder
Speaker 1: so bad that it's forcing the insatiable need to murder
Speaker 1: is forcing his nails to grow faster. And that's that's
Speaker 1: like his one sort of like tell it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just good nail boners, and his nail boners must
Speaker 1: be satiated by the by the hunger for murder, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's what we're what we're talking about. He's on
Speaker 1: a train, Kira is uh, going back home from presumably work,
Speaker 1: when he's pestered by this like hipster couple, uh, and
Speaker 1: he's like sort of annoyed by them, and he's like
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, these these yeah, they're like hipsters. They're
Speaker 1: like a young couple, you know, on the train or whatever.
Speaker 5: Anyone who's young is a hipster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I operate these days. Is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, okay, you know I would just call him
Speaker 2: a young fashionable couple.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't. I don't have like pejoratives with hipster.
Speaker 1: I don't think hipsters are like necessarily a negative. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: uh he is, uh, he's sort of having like a
Speaker 1: bit of a tiff with them, and he accidentally drops
Speaker 1: his nail clipper, which is in the shape of a
Speaker 1: bowling pin, and that is like weird.
Speaker 2: Hero likes bowling or do you.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because he likes hands and he likes,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe the feeling of things.
Speaker 5: Like this hands.
Speaker 4: I thought it was like a style of nail clipper,
Speaker 4: like the shape.
Speaker 2: It is, but there's a bowling ball on it.
Speaker 1: But it's certainly a bowling pin shaped. Yes, they even
Speaker 1: call it out. They call it out in the.
Speaker 4: Work for Oh yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess, nice bowling pin nail clipper, you fucking loser,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And he's like, it's a little harsh nail clipper or
Speaker 2: is it the.
Speaker 1: One of first I'm seeing it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the person.
Speaker 6: Whose body bowling?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I love the idea that, like Kira
Speaker 2: just likes bowling. I think that's really fun. But I
Speaker 2: wonder is it No, this is just another nail tippers
Speaker 2: picked up from the house. There is no answer to this,
Speaker 2: but it's fun to think about.
Speaker 1: Oh. I hope bowling comes back up again. I guess
Speaker 1: it sounds like it won't, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: Well, we are approaching the final arc here, which unfortunately
Speaker 2: is not a bowling tournament.
Speaker 1: Look, it could have gone that way.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm with them. These bowling pins style
Speaker 4: nail clippers are a thing of the past. I've changed
Speaker 4: my nail clip a game.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, all right, good to
Speaker 1: know you're we know you're a pioneer.
Speaker 5: In that field.
Speaker 1: Very good notes, So I don't know. Kira's fucking nails
Speaker 1: are like, Yo, you better murder that couple. Uh, you
Speaker 1: better follow them home and murder them, or I'm going
Speaker 1: to grow really really fast and hard and long, So
Speaker 1: please go do that. He follows them back to their
Speaker 1: apartment and just like you know, they go into their
Speaker 1: apartment and he's right behind them, and he like kicks
Speaker 1: the door open and he just marks this guy like
Speaker 1: right away.
Speaker 2: The time this guy goes from like being completely alive
Speaker 2: to just vanished from reality is maybe like five seconds.
Speaker 2: And it's so scary, like it's scary. This entire this
Speaker 2: entire scene is like kind of terrifying.
Speaker 1: I don't think, Kira, I don't think they've demonstrated cure
Speaker 1: being as evil as they have in the final like
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, he is. He is maniacal and frightening
Speaker 1: in a way that is really tough to put into words.
Speaker 1: Uh So he totally just vaporizes this dude and then
Speaker 1: has the girlfriend on the ground. I believe her name
Speaker 1: is Monaco, right, and she's like don't She's like, don't
Speaker 1: kill me, don't kill me. She's like screaming, this is
Speaker 1: the this is legit horror, Like, this is the this
Speaker 1: is scary, so scary, Like, oh my god, don't kill me.
Speaker 1: Would you do to my boyfriend? Where is he? It's
Speaker 1: just like where to go? What's happening? And he's just like,
Speaker 1: what's your name? What's your name? And she and her
Speaker 1: mouth is just it's like stuck open because she's just
Speaker 1: screaming in horror. It's really really disturbing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do like a really good job, where like
Speaker 2: she can barely understand what she's seeing as.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, right exactly, so you know she so she's
Speaker 1: like she's like oh, what did you do to him?
Speaker 1: Don't kill me? Don't kill me? And then he's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what's your name? And she says Monocco. And then because
Speaker 1: because that is the only way I can like somehow
Speaker 1: sugarcoat his insanity, like that's that's like making me feel better,
Speaker 1: because what this freak does is he puts an ear oujio,
Speaker 1: he puts an ear ring on her ear that has
Speaker 1: her boyfriend's ear seate and attached to it. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: not forget that little gem. While all the while, we
Speaker 1: find out that the sun right Hyoto Hyato Kyoto Hyatta
Speaker 1: Yato is filming this entire thing slowly and is quietly
Speaker 1: gathering all this evidence about who he does not believe
Speaker 1: his father is anyways, Like this is not my dad,
Speaker 1: my dad, as far as I'm aware, my dad is
Speaker 1: not vaporizing people left and right and murdering people. What's
Speaker 1: going on? We cut back to Kira interacting with Monaco,
Speaker 1: and he just like quietly vaporizes this poor innocent person,
Speaker 1: leaving nothing but her hand in his and then he
Speaker 1: has like a moment with his hand where he like
Speaker 1: rubs it all over his face and he's like I
Speaker 1: love hands. Hands hands hands, separate hands are great.
Speaker 2: I thought about Kira at this moment. And do you guys,
Speaker 2: do you guys watch Conan O'Brien, which ye sure. Have
Speaker 2: you ever seen his assistant producer, Jordan Slansky.
Speaker 5: Jordan Slansky, Oh my god, Yes.
Speaker 6: In the fucking Coffee Machine was one of my favorite
Speaker 6: videos on YouTube for so long.
Speaker 2: I think bet Jordan Slansky has a Kira ish vibe.
Speaker 1: That's weird. Okay, I'm gonna have to refamiliarize myself with
Speaker 1: the specificity of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see what you mean, So.
Speaker 2: I would say specifically the scenes where Kira is like, ah, yes,
Speaker 2: the best katsu sandwich in the village, Like the pleasure
Speaker 2: he takes from, like like the very like nearly kind
Speaker 2: of analytical, near like kind of mechanical approach to I
Speaker 2: enjoy this thing.
Speaker 1: Kira is like this.
Speaker 2: I don't think Jordan Slansky is a serial killer, despite
Speaker 2: whatever Conan says, but it really really reminded me of that.
Speaker 6: I think the younger version I recently, I need to
Speaker 6: go back and listen to that one.
Speaker 4: When he's younger. He definitely has that same like modern
Speaker 4: totally modern day He's a little more.
Speaker 2: When he's older, he gets a bit more curmudgeingly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it kills the kind of cure vibe a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but young even if you look at him when
Speaker 4: he's younger, he looks a bit psychotic as well.
Speaker 5: I like the episode. I like the bit of the
Speaker 5: podcast the podcast.
Speaker 6: I like the video where it's just like Conan just
Speaker 6: sits in Jordan's office because he's just not at work
Speaker 6: and he tries to find Yeah, what the fuck he
Speaker 6: does all day?
Speaker 1: That's good, Okay, back to the Apartment of horror. You know,
Speaker 1: he's slapping this severed hand all over all over himself
Speaker 1: and he's like, I love I love women's hands. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. That is then interrupted by like an overall
Speaker 1: sort of like Spidey sense that he gets no realizing
Speaker 1: he's being recorded. The sun goes like or yeah something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he hears, and he turns around. He realizes, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the door has been unlocked this whole time.
Speaker 1: What a careless murderer I am. And he like runs
Speaker 1: out the door and he sees Hyatto running away and
Speaker 1: like is able to zoom in and understand that he's
Speaker 1: like running away with a camera. Uh, and he gets
Speaker 1: freaked out by this, so he decides to just vaporize
Speaker 1: what's left of the girl's hand. That is kind of
Speaker 1: funny where he's just sort of like, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: have to find a new one of these, and he
Speaker 1: just sort of like you know, vaporizes that away and
Speaker 1: gets rid of the evidence. He goes home to his
Speaker 1: house to find out that his fake son, right, because
Speaker 1: he's sort of like body snatching his dad. He's in
Speaker 1: the bath and we see we see the sun. Hyato's
Speaker 1: already taking a bath, right, he's there and he's got
Speaker 1: which I don't understand why he's doing this. He's got
Speaker 1: the freaking tape in like a little bucket in the
Speaker 1: bath with him, Like, buddy, what are you doing? Why
Speaker 1: is why did you bring this into the bath with you?
Speaker 5: Well he doesn't want to let it out.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I know, but like water and electronics, like what
Speaker 1: are we doing? Like this can't end? Well, you're you're
Speaker 1: you're putting too many things in jeopardy by introducing water
Speaker 1: to a videotape. Can we all agree on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I agreed, agreed, unless.
Speaker 5: Unless it's a fake and it made a copy.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I don't know, we'll find out because man,
Speaker 1: we're we're okay. I'm just letting everyone know we're entering
Speaker 1: real uncomfortable territory the rest of this episode. I I'm
Speaker 1: just you know.
Speaker 4: It's not great. I'm like, also context Japanese culture, the
Speaker 4: idea of like bathing together is very normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's a weird ways look at it, all right,
Speaker 2: but I kind of I'm I'm here, It's okay. It's
Speaker 2: strange to see, like there's there's some bizarre screen grubs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there's some tough angles. We'll call it that.
Speaker 1: I mean Hyatto. How old is Hyato supposed to be?
Speaker 2: Not old enough for this?
Speaker 4: No like or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's ten. I think ten I can deal with from
Speaker 1: that sort of angle that you guys were describing before. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Kira enters the bathroom butt ass naked, and it's basically like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's been a while since we've bathed together. How about
Speaker 1: I get in there with you, bud, and the Sun
Speaker 1: is freaking out, is like, because he knows this guy
Speaker 1: is like body snatches real dad, he's his murderer, and
Speaker 1: he's freaking out and He's like, oh man, I'm incredibly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's like shaking, you know, he's sweating. Kira's like, what's wrong,
Speaker 1: little guy?
Speaker 2: Why are you une of like genuinely good horror, Like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, crazy?
Speaker 5: And also you're naked.
Speaker 1: You're naked. Everyone's naked. Everyone's naked, everyone's sweating, everyone's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Hyato gets out of the bath and uh that's when
Speaker 1: Kira starts to like start cleaning him, and we are
Speaker 1: we are tipped off that Killer Queen has like explosified
Speaker 1: a strand of Hyatto's hair and explosified. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, Like I think that. I I know it.
Speaker 1: It's a I know it's not a real word. Just
Speaker 1: like it just okay.
Speaker 2: I'm in favor of becoming a real word. I'll just
Speaker 2: also a real nice touch to the scene. When Kira
Speaker 2: first enters the bathroom, his shadow on the floor is
Speaker 2: Killer Queen holding thisng.
Speaker 4: Oh is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Okay, I gotta go back and look
Speaker 1: at that. I like that. I haven't seen enough like
Speaker 1: Killer Queen in the flesh lately, right aside from like
Speaker 1: the logo on his ties and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh well, buddy, do I have do I have some
Speaker 2: episodes for you?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be well served. It sounds like, so obviously
Speaker 1: the scene is intense. Everyone's naked. We're seeing like very
Speaker 1: crude drawings of things of privates. It's weird, it's upsetting.
Speaker 1: There's like difficult and uncomfortable angles. But then it gets
Speaker 1: to the point where Hayato has to confront here and say, yo,
Speaker 1: I know you're like this murderer, but I'm also filming
Speaker 1: you from every angle and that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: I've got like a foot camera, I've got a camera
Speaker 1: that's coming out of the corner of the bathroom. So
Speaker 1: guess why, Bud you kill me? And it's all on
Speaker 1: tape and the jig is up right.
Speaker 6: But the thing, like he says stupidly, he's like, oh, well,
Speaker 6: someone will find those tapes.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, yeah, dad could find them, Like you haven't.
Speaker 6: Said, oh I've told someone that where the tapes are
Speaker 6: and they're not on site, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Like yeah, you're right. Like if without the Internet
Speaker 2: there is a bit of trouble, like just the flying this.
Speaker 1: Well maybe it's like a CCTV that's going to the
Speaker 1: police who cares. I can believe me, friends, I get
Speaker 1: suspend my disbelief for where these cameras are broadcasting.
Speaker 2: Do you know what bit really just horrifies me from here.
Speaker 2: It's when talks about I'm only gonna blow up his
Speaker 2: head a little. So yeah, so it looks like an accident,
Speaker 2: which is like, it's such a such a nightmare of
Speaker 2: a scene.
Speaker 1: Because he also says that kind of thing happens all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. Anyway, these two are at each other's
Speaker 1: throats just in time for the to be continued, arrow
Speaker 1: to enter the screen, and there you have it, the
Speaker 1: thrilling conclusion question mark to uh these four episodes, man,
Speaker 1: I do as uncomfortable as that bathroom scene is, I
Speaker 1: did think Part four on the whole was pretty pretty solid.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan.
Speaker 2: I I mean I enjoyed the both these episodes. I
Speaker 2: think you guys, criticisms of the Part three is fair.
Speaker 2: I really I think there's a lot of good shit
Speaker 2: in this episode. I think the stand battle is much
Speaker 2: more solid, and I think just the horror parts of
Speaker 2: Kira really nail him down as just I just not
Speaker 2: not like just a not a like a dangerous person,
Speaker 2: but like a frightening one.
Speaker 6: Well, think it's a lot of horror with the Rohan
Speaker 6: cheap trick because like just it would spring at you
Speaker 6: the whole time, just enough to drive you mad like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I should also highlight we did see Jodoro
Speaker 1: a good amount these two final episodes, Like we like
Speaker 1: he spoke a little bit. I kind of forgot what
Speaker 1: his voice sounded like, and that was comforting to hear.
Speaker 5: And I don't forget that baby that they've kidnapped still around.
Speaker 1: Dad. Yeah, yeah, there's we We got to see like
Speaker 1: a couple people we had not seen in a while.
Speaker 1: Uh So I thought that was exciting. Always fun to
Speaker 1: see Joseph Joe Starr just being there too, you know
Speaker 1: in the previous just sitting there on the couch with
Speaker 1: Invisible Baby, a.
Speaker 4: Character of the Hangover constantly.
Speaker 1: It's pretty silly, but yeah, there you have it. Uh,
Speaker 1: we are on the precipice of what is almost certainly
Speaker 1: going to be a thrilling conclusion to Diamond is Unbreakable.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is my favorite. Careful here, please, this is
Speaker 2: my favorite ending to a Jojo. I don't know that
Speaker 2: you guys will agree. I think that the show needs
Speaker 2: to hit very hard to justify, like, how like what
Speaker 2: is going to be the conclusion to Kira? How do
Speaker 2: you deal with this problem? And I feel just like
Speaker 2: the general level of elevation and where we go here,
Speaker 2: I love it so much. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys will feel the same.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: I said, this is one of those fights I have
Speaker 2: been excited to watch with you guys since we shared
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh that means a lot. That get that that brings
Speaker 1: me great excitement. I gotta say, I do think they
Speaker 1: did a very narratively smart thing by like just really
Speaker 1: pulling out all the stops for Kira's overall evilness, right,
Speaker 1: Like that stuff is on display here in a very
Speaker 1: meaningful way. And I do think it's like reinvigorated that
Speaker 1: that that villain sort of persona that we needed.
Speaker 2: This is kind of automatically Like I really love about
Speaker 2: it Part four because I feel like the show does
Speaker 2: do a good job of, like, you know, building up
Speaker 2: the town as this really kind of awesome thing with
Speaker 2: all this weird shit like the stones and the library,
Speaker 2: book and the past, the restaurant and all yep. But
Speaker 2: it's like there's just this fucking horrible, horrible evil just
Speaker 2: like buried right in there and I love that. Like
Speaker 2: that to me is part four and like that's what's
Speaker 2: so excited about it. And now in these final episodes,
Speaker 2: like watching what it all comes to, I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to talk to you guys about it next time.
Speaker 1: That's right, the next Yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Should probably say, Jeff, we are looking at I know
Speaker 2: things have been a little hit and missed with the podcast,
Speaker 2: or like in terms of scheduling, we are looking at
Speaker 2: wrapping this up by the end of the year. Is
Speaker 2: that correct?
Speaker 1: That is the plan. You've got another one Bites the
Speaker 1: Dust parts one and two, which will be covered on
Speaker 1: the next episode of Jeff jess Bizarre Adventure, followed by
Speaker 1: the three part We'll do I guess we'll do, Like
Speaker 1: there's a two part of it's called Crazy Diamond is
Speaker 1: Unbreakable Parts one and two, and then the final episode
Speaker 1: Goodbye morio h we will be doing at the end.
Speaker 1: So that so that final podcast episode will cover three
Speaker 1: anime episodes lovely doing business with you all. That's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I think we will say our goodbyes. John.
Speaker 1: Where can the good people find you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You can find me? Many places. But you can find
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Speaker 6: I'm enjoying Blue Sky a lot. I'm at Lucy James
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Speaker 2: Oh you know what. I'm also on Blue Sky ipatul sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of nice having a social media platform that
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Speaker 1: We die for now, for now, already see the sand
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Speaker 2: I got a d M this morning, but okay, that's
Speaker 2: my own fault. I didn't close dms. Saw some fucking
Speaker 2: dark shit closed them. Oh go go, good luck with that.
Speaker 2: John Moore, where we find you.
Speaker 4: Pal, I'm Tom h on everything. I'm on blue dot com,
Speaker 4: which is oh cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that too. There's a way to like
Speaker 1: make your own domain the representative, just.
Speaker 4: As long as you have your own domain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, all right, And I'm on Blue
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