Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costin's new radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everybody. As we move into the
Speaker 2: talk portion of the program. I do not have any
Speaker 2: guests scheduled for the night for tonight other than you.
Speaker 2: You will be my guest when you call six one, seven, two,
Speaker 2: five four ten thirty or six one seven nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. And we have a couple of topics
Speaker 2: that I'd like to talk about tonight. At ten o'clock.
Speaker 2: Our intention is to talk about the US Surgeon General's
Speaker 2: new advisory on a link between use of alcohol and
Speaker 2: cancer risk. We'll get to that after ten o'clock. However,
Speaker 2: this hour I want to talk about something that's been
Speaker 2: going on for a while and it seems from what
Speaker 2: I see, to be spreading more and more and more.
Speaker 2: And that is you go into certain stores and you
Speaker 2: want to buy an item, something relatively simple, maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, health of beauty products, maybe toothpaste, the odorant, shampoo,
Speaker 2: some cosmetics, not the most expensive items. And you go
Speaker 2: there and you realize the toothpaste is under lock and key,
Speaker 2: so you have to find some of the store clerks,
Speaker 2: which can be difficult and you're telling me you'd like
Speaker 2: to buy some toothpaste or shampoo or whatever, just the
Speaker 2: normal sort of stuff that people buy every day at
Speaker 2: a pharmacy. And they'll say, well, I got to go
Speaker 2: get the key, and they go and they get the key,
Speaker 2: and then they unlock the case, and so you then
Speaker 2: can spend your you know, six dollars, eight dollars, whatever
Speaker 2: you want, fourteen dollars on the toothpaste or on the shampoo.
Speaker 2: And this is happening across America, and I think it's
Speaker 2: a very troubling trend. Now, my understanding is that these
Speaker 2: and companies are doing this is because they're being ripped off.
Speaker 2: According to one article I have from CNN, business retailers,
Speaker 2: I guess, have suffered so much loss of theft that
Speaker 2: they're willing to take a reduction in sales when they
Speaker 2: lock up items. According to the CNN article, retailers see
Speaker 2: up to a twenty reduction in sales when they lock
Speaker 2: up items. They also face higher labor costs because employees
Speaker 2: spent additional time unlocking and locking cases. I was recently,
Speaker 2: maybe a couple months ago, uh in a Target store
Speaker 2: over in Watertown, and nice store lots of different stuff,
Speaker 2: and I was looking just for some men's socks. Uh.
Speaker 2: And they're they're they're locked up, they're under lock and key.
Speaker 2: So I had to find somebody, you know.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: To just to look at the store. You can look
Speaker 2: at them through the glass, okay, but that doesn't tell you, you know,
Speaker 2: how comfortable they might be, what what the material is,
Speaker 2: difficult to figure out what the cost is because generally
Speaker 2: the price is fixed. So I kind of just walked
Speaker 2: away and I figured I'll get, you know, the next
Speaker 2: next time I'm in a store where there are socks
Speaker 2: that are available. This is a really discouraging trend in
Speaker 2: this country. Uh, I am, you know, been around for
Speaker 2: a long time. Uh. And you know, you go into
Speaker 2: liquor stores and not that I'm buying high end you know,
Speaker 2: uh liquor, but they're they're worried about Pilfridge. We did
Speaker 2: the story a couple of weeks ago, well a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago with Gary of Gary's Liquors over in West Roxbury,
Speaker 2: where they're getting hit time and time again by thieves
Speaker 2: just walking in, people walking in and having the audacity
Speaker 2: to just to walk out. Now in some of the
Speaker 2: and of course we saw what happened in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Some of the sorees basically tell the employees don't interfere.
Speaker 2: If someone comes in and they're grabbing, they got a
Speaker 2: bag and they're throwing items in it, get out of
Speaker 2: their way. What sort of a message does that send?
Speaker 2: Bottom line is I'm wondering. I'm wondering if with a
Speaker 2: new administration maybe things might change a little bit. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of companies are cowardly. Cowardly. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't think they have a right to order their employees
Speaker 2: to interfere with shoplifters, but I think that they certainly
Speaker 2: should encourage the employees to yell at the individual ian
Speaker 2: to if necessary, you know, call the police. Why not?
Speaker 2: Why not? In every store in America have a buzzer
Speaker 2: in which an employee can literally hit the buzzer and
Speaker 2: the local police department can be alerted immediately, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: even alerted before the left the cars. You know, a
Speaker 2: couple of kids come into the store, and my understanding
Speaker 2: from the store owners that I talk to that you
Speaker 2: pretty much can figure it out and it's got nothing
Speaker 2: to do with profiling. But you'll see people looking around,
Speaker 2: furtive looks. Who's looking who's watching. These are stores that
Speaker 2: have cameras. I mean, these people who are doing this
Speaker 2: with impunity. They feel they can get away with it
Speaker 2: and guess what they can, and somehow, some way, we're
Speaker 2: all paying for it. I mean, in one form or another. Obviously,
Speaker 2: if a store is putting in cases which have locks,
Speaker 2: well the store's not gonna absorb that cost. That's going
Speaker 2: to be passed on to you and me as loyal customers.
Speaker 2: I'm a lower customer of CVS, but I got to
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, now, I'll say to myself, Gee, if
Speaker 2: I go into a CVS and it's all stuff walked up,
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste my time. I'm I'll buy
Speaker 2: the same thing I can buy a CVS I can
Speaker 2: buy at the grocery store. Now, I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's locked up at CVS and it's not locked up
Speaker 2: at the grocery store. I don't know why it's locked
Speaker 2: up at Walgreens and it's not locked up at market Basket.
Speaker 2: I think that these companies better start to kind of
Speaker 2: get a hold of themselves and figure this out. So
Speaker 2: I'd love to know what have you tried to buy recently.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that if you went in and looking for
Speaker 2: a five hundred dollars bottle of champagne, as if I'm
Speaker 2: sure all of you do that all the time. Of
Speaker 2: course not. I can understand where they might say, well,
Speaker 2: the five hundred dollars bottle of champagne, we really don't
Speaker 2: want people handling it because they might drop it on
Speaker 2: the floor. No, we keep that separate. I get that.
Speaker 2: But just a tube of toothpaste, a bottle of shampoo,
Speaker 2: a candidate odorant, come on six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty six, seven nine three. Love to know if this
Speaker 2: bothers you. It certainly says to me that this is
Speaker 2: a corrosive element in our society. It should not be
Speaker 2: this way. Okay if because this to me has a
Speaker 2: Third World sense to it. I want to be able
Speaker 2: to walk into a store in Boston, in Greater Boston,
Speaker 2: here in New England and pick items up, look at them,
Speaker 2: see how much they cost, make sure they marked properly,
Speaker 2: go to the counter, put them on the counter, pay
Speaker 2: for them. That's all I ask. Is that too much?
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll get to phone calls right
Speaker 2: after the break again, no guest schedule tonight. You are
Speaker 2: my guests. I'd love to know if you think that
Speaker 2: we are doomed and this is the future. I hope not.
Speaker 2: I hope that maybe maybe we're going to have some
Speaker 2: sort of a renaissance here and turn things around. Back
Speaker 2: on Night's Side joined the conversation right after these messages.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Side Studio. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: You know, Rogers said something which is really interesting. I thought,
Speaker 2: very insightful. I wish I thought of it. Rob said,
Speaker 2: the same stores that lock things up under lock and key,
Speaker 2: they allow you and in some cases force you to
Speaker 2: do self checkout. So wait a second. You don't trust
Speaker 2: me to pick a tube of toothpaste off a shelf
Speaker 2: and bring it up to the counter, but you trust
Speaker 2: me once you've given me the tube of toothpaste, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna walk up to a self checkout and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ring everything up. There's an inconsistency here, folks, Corporate America,
Speaker 2: wake the hell up. Let's go gonna go to Angelo
Speaker 2: and Newton. Angelo, you are first, is our Nightside. Let's
Speaker 2: kick it off. Angelo, go right.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Hi, Dan Ring, how you doing? I believe it
Speaker 3: everything you were saying. But let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: There has been a lot of sailing going round, I know.
Speaker 3: And I've been to CBS and I've seen a person
Speaker 3: waiting for the guy to come just to get some
Speaker 3: twope or whatever he wanted to shave and queen. He
Speaker 3: had to wait for the guy to come to open
Speaker 3: that up, and then somebody else came over, and you
Speaker 3: had to wait for somebody else to come over to
Speaker 3: open up the next one, though. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if you ever, I don't know if you ever know
Speaker 3: have you ever been to home Depot?
Speaker 2: I stay away from home Depot because I find I'd
Speaker 2: rather go to a local community drug store, a cardware store.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, uh, but I've gone to home Depot and
Speaker 2: it's it's never been a good experience for me. Tell
Speaker 2: tell me about your experience.
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you. I was shocked. One day
Speaker 3: I went to buy something there and they came out
Speaker 3: with the carriage and I passed the cashire and no
Speaker 3: sooner I got to the door, the wheels on the
Speaker 3: carriage locked up. And here you have tried to push
Speaker 3: the garage and I had to call a guy, says Hey,
Speaker 3: what's going on here? I said, heels on the cabbage
Speaker 3: locked up on me. I can't get out of here,
Speaker 3: he said, I said, what's this all about? It? He says,
Speaker 3: believe it or not. He says, you wouldn't know how
Speaker 3: much ceiling we have going out of this door on cabbages.
Speaker 3: He says, we had to do this. He says, somebody,
Speaker 3: these people come here, they load up the cabbages and
Speaker 3: we don't even know it, and they walk right out
Speaker 3: of the building.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the hire. Some people hire a security guard.
Speaker 2: There has to be some way. I have a good
Speaker 2: I have a good friend of mine who's a restaurant
Speaker 2: owner in Boston. Okay, I'm not going to tell you
Speaker 2: the name, but you'd know. The restaurant tells me that
Speaker 2: they have seen more people. And what the scam is.
Speaker 2: The people go in, they ordered dinner, they order wine
Speaker 2: or whatever you know this is. This is a high
Speaker 2: end restaurant, and then they order dessert, and when the
Speaker 2: waiter leaves to go get them to this the dessert tray,
Speaker 2: they move they take off. It's they call that shot
Speaker 2: and screw. I mean I.
Speaker 3: Heard a lot that. Believe me. Believe me, it's it's crazy,
Speaker 3: it's insane when we're going here and it's like unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I had, I had, like.
Speaker 2: We don't have food programs for people. It's not like
Speaker 2: we don't have EBT cards, and you know, it's not
Speaker 2: like we're not in the in the depression of the
Speaker 2: nineteen late twenties and early thirties where no one had food.
Speaker 2: I just think we have. We have lost so much
Speaker 2: as a as a society. That's all.
Speaker 3: Somebody careful. Yeah good, the people in the door, Yeah good.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Dan, No, no.
Speaker 2: I was. I was gonna say. I tend not to
Speaker 2: go to home people because it's it's too aggravating. I'd
Speaker 2: rather pay a couple of extra bucks than go to
Speaker 2: ACE Hardware or what are the local hardware change.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I don't go there off and I just
Speaker 3: I just go there from when I really need something,
Speaker 3: because that's the only place that's opening nights, some guys,
Speaker 3: that's the only time I go. The other than that,
Speaker 3: I go other places all.
Speaker 2: The time. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know how many people again ceiling vehicles, you know
Speaker 3: how many vehicles I had stolen putting into my property unbelievable.
Speaker 3: What's going on in this world? I have the police
Speaker 3: here and I had the detective here. Two vehicles and
Speaker 3: one had full of blood inside of it.
Speaker 2: Someone just dropped up the vehicles on your property.
Speaker 3: They dropped them off for my property man, and the
Speaker 3: neighbors and the neighbor, the neighbors next door. They are
Speaker 3: they caught. They had cameras and they caught somebody with
Speaker 3: a mohawky haircut trying to break into their cars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. What's going on, Dan? I haven't seen so
Speaker 3: much going around. It's like where we going in this world?
Speaker 3: Who do you tuck anymore? In this world? You're gonna
Speaker 3: be afraid. Who even say anything to anybody today? You
Speaker 3: don't even know what they have and what the hell
Speaker 3: they're gonna even do with you?
Speaker 2: And you made some great points. Thanks very much, buddy,
Speaker 2: I got full lines. I gotta keep rolling here. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for calling.
Speaker 3: Okay there, thank you for taking my call. You have
Speaker 3: a Bret.
Speaker 2: Easy by, good good strong call to get a started.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Tim in Ruber and Tim you're
Speaker 2: next nightsacker right ahead.
Speaker 4: The CBS is unbelievable to get raizor blades after shaved
Speaker 4: on the locking locking key. And they're in two different areas.
Speaker 4: Now they have nobody walking the floor. Employees to behind
Speaker 4: the redges of cashiers. You gotta wait for the cashire
Speaker 4: right to be done, waiting on four or five people.
Speaker 4: Then they go over and then they unlock things. Right,
Speaker 4: I go. Now, I go to market basket. Nothing's under
Speaker 4: lock and key.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. There's a whole bunch of reasons why
Speaker 2: I like market basket. I don't know. Do you have
Speaker 2: one that's close to you in Ruber and.
Speaker 4: Tim, Yes, I do, about a mile from my house.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you're you're lucky, You're lucky.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just seen this and it just seems that that
Speaker 2: it just seems to be getting worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 2: And the stores, why don't the stores have a security
Speaker 2: guard in there? I mean, why not hire you know,
Speaker 2: off duty police officers on the detail.
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right. Why don't they money?
Speaker 2: Money? I guess money, but they might to spend money
Speaker 2: on law and they're driving customers away.
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Why why are they doing it this way? Have a
Speaker 2: police officer there on a detail. If you think, you
Speaker 2: know the pilfridge on a Friday night, or you know Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 2: Saturday nights are bad. Have a police officer there the wall,
Speaker 2: get around and they'll go. They'll go hit other stores
Speaker 2: and other communities.
Speaker 4: I used to get my greeting cards down the cvs.
Speaker 4: What you got to go through with that, right, So
Speaker 4: I get them at Family Dollar and move them square.
Speaker 4: But anyhow, I'm done with CVS. I go with a
Speaker 4: market basket. That's where I go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think a lot of the pharmace sees
Speaker 2: their understand that when I say the pharmacies, the drug stores,
Speaker 2: what if you want to call them, but they have
Speaker 2: a pharmacy, they're understaffed, and yes, it's just it's it's interesting.
Speaker 2: They make it difficult. They want you to be a
Speaker 2: loyal customer and and but they make it difficult for
Speaker 2: you to be a loyal customer. And we're losing. We're
Speaker 2: losing what this country, in many respects always was that
Speaker 2: you went into a store and you felt comfortable in
Speaker 2: the store, You felt welcome, you felt that people wanted
Speaker 2: you to come there. I used to go to Home
Speaker 2: Depot all the time. But you get to home depot.
Speaker 2: Now it's changed totally for me, and it's got nothing
Speaker 2: to do with that pilfridge. But the CBS stores they've
Speaker 2: also changed because now much more stuff lock and key.
Speaker 2: When I was in Target that day, I was stunned.
Speaker 2: Men's socks. What do they charge you if it's set
Speaker 2: men's socks? Ten dollars up here and they're putting that
Speaker 2: under lock.
Speaker 4: And key, under lock and key a pair of sacks
Speaker 4: and you imagine that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 4: An I'm done with CBS and I love my mug.
Speaker 2: Right, enjoy the coffee in the morning. Okay, Thanks, Thanks.
Speaker 4: Dan, Okay, thanks Dan.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Hank is in Chelmsford. Hank,
Speaker 2: you're next to Chelmster. Go right ahead, Hank.
Speaker 6: Hey, good evening, Dan. I was thinking, I was thinking
Speaker 6: about your comment about the Third World and having lived
Speaker 6: there as a volunteer teacher for a year. You're exactly right,
Speaker 6: and to the point of the root cause of it
Speaker 6: to me is lawlessness. And I'm not going to appoint
Speaker 6: it to a specific group, but a popular lawlessness that's
Speaker 6: part and parcel of the anti religion sentiment that has
Speaker 6: grown up and more dismissive comments are made about people
Speaker 6: who believe in the supernatural. But you know something I
Speaker 6: don't disagree. Getting back to the point, as John Adams said,
Speaker 6: you know, the Constitution was written for a religious and
Speaker 6: moral people and is unfit for any other. So the
Speaker 6: country was founded on men of goodwill, not their belief
Speaker 6: in the supernatural. But men of goodwill was the foundation
Speaker 6: of our country.
Speaker 2: Henk, give me a favorite. I'm having a conversation with
Speaker 2: you here for a second. Hold on for a second.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that as fewer and
Speaker 2: fewer people have found themselves associated with a religion, either
Speaker 2: through a church or a set of beliefs, that you
Speaker 2: know what what's called moral relativism comes along and the
Speaker 2: idea is, well, that company doesn't need the money that
Speaker 2: I'm paying for this this you know U tube of
Speaker 2: toothpaste or this shaving cream. I'll just stick it in
Speaker 2: my pocket. So there's moral relativism, and that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's not right. I mean, And I think we're exactly
Speaker 2: on the same page, whether you realize it or not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I do. I think it's on a more
Speaker 6: abstract level. Is in my moment because I want to
Speaker 6: they won consulation of an example, and this lawlessness that's
Speaker 6: become popular, it degrades life for all of us. The
Speaker 6: common good is degraded by that. And for example, it
Speaker 6: is against the law in Massachusetts for teachers to go
Speaker 6: on strike. A group did against the law. They got
Speaker 6: what they wanted as a result. Now, what did they
Speaker 6: teach all the children about obeying the law when that happened.
Speaker 2: Obviously the question gives the answer. And by the way,
Speaker 2: not only did they go on strike, which is against
Speaker 2: the law, but in one city, a couple of communities
Speaker 2: in Newton, they were out for eleven days last January,
Speaker 2: and then up in the Beverly Gloucester area out for
Speaker 2: two weeks in November. I mean, that's yeah, that's as
Speaker 2: a solution.
Speaker 6: As a solution, I only have a question is how
Speaker 6: can we make obedience to the law cool again? Because
Speaker 6: it used to be cool for people to obey the law,
Speaker 6: and then if became uncool, and now we're going in
Speaker 6: a you know, the spirals down to the third world.
Speaker 6: And if you keep adding these security costs, like laughing
Speaker 6: up every little item just like the third world, will
Speaker 6: you go into a tienda You don't get to put
Speaker 6: your hands on anything. Everything's behind a bulletproof puxiglass screen
Speaker 6: and you talk to their man and that's how you shop,
Speaker 6: you know. So we're heading in all which drives up
Speaker 6: the cost of everything.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, I remember as many as long as twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: when I worked in television at night, there were certain
Speaker 2: gas stations that you pull into and you put your
Speaker 2: your money. You know, there's like a little slat, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty bucks, you get twenty dollars. You couldn't even you
Speaker 2: try to talk to them, to the guy behind the counter,
Speaker 2: and the plexiglass was so strong. What'd you say? I
Speaker 2: got to understand that, no, we are going in the
Speaker 2: opposite direction of where we should as America. And I'm
Speaker 2: hoping that we're gonna do a U turn A real quickly.
Speaker 2: And I hope, Hank, that you become a more frequent
Speaker 2: caller on this program, because I hear I need to
Speaker 2: hear voices like yours more often. And I mean that honestly.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, be careful.
Speaker 6: You might get what you asked for.
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. I'm smart enough to know the
Speaker 2: callers that I will like, and I share a lot
Speaker 2: of you know, one of the things again, it's moral
Speaker 2: relativism that we're concerned about here. It's like I'm going
Speaker 2: to steal that toothpaste because the company makes so much money,
Speaker 2: they're not going to miss one one tube of toothpaste,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna grab a cup set of razors there.
Speaker 2: Because that's moral relativism. It doesn't harm anybody. Yes, it
Speaker 2: does harm people. It's as simple as that. Thanks Hank.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon and appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 7: Appreciate it by.
Speaker 2: Well, what what country did you work in?
Speaker 7: Belize?
Speaker 2: Belize? Oh, I have a friend who had a place
Speaker 2: in Belize. Actually, some night we'll talk about Belize. It's
Speaker 2: a very interesting country. Many people don't know where it is,
Speaker 2: but it's not far from our southern border. Thanks any man,
Speaker 2: Thanks bye bye. Six one seven two five four ten thirty.
Speaker 2: One line there and one line at six one seven
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Yeah, if you do not
Speaker 2: understand the concept of moral relativism, feel free to join
Speaker 2: the conversation. Okay, that's the idea of Yeah, I can
Speaker 2: take this because what doesn't really matter. You know, it's
Speaker 2: only a candy bar, but a candy bar leads to
Speaker 2: a pack of cigarettes. And a pack of cigarettes leads
Speaker 2: to more and more and more, and then eventually you
Speaker 2: got to go in and uh and carry a gun
Speaker 2: to make sure that you can get out. This is
Speaker 2: we're hitting, and we've continued ahead for a long time
Speaker 2: in bad in a bad direction, and you're seeing it
Speaker 2: right now with this the stuff in stores locked up,
Speaker 2: simple as that. I got Joe Patrician, Gary got some
Speaker 2: room for you. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: You're my guest tonight, no guests, all callers coming back
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Speaker 1: He's Dan Ray ONBS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. The're going to go to Joe and Joe.
Speaker 8: You were next time, night Dan, Thank you for taking
Speaker 8: my call. I've talked to doctor Frankie. He's very helpful.
Speaker 8: I have trouble with my legs. I know insurance can't
Speaker 8: pay for it, but if I ever get the money,
Speaker 8: I'm going to have him try it on my legs,
Speaker 8: you know, standing up.
Speaker 2: Fortunately, yeah, unfortunately it is not covered by insurance. But
Speaker 2: he tries to work with people too, so oh yeah, he's.
Speaker 8: A decent man. Okay, maybe you should have the guys
Speaker 8: on from some of these stores. That do this, because
Speaker 8: I've noticed this in Walgreens. I went to buy an
Speaker 8: electric toothbrush the heads and they're locked up and all
Speaker 8: the razors are locked up, and they told me it's
Speaker 8: because of stealing. And I don't like. By the way,
Speaker 8: these self service checkouts, I can't use them. I can't see.
Speaker 2: But I told them, yeah, neither do I. I can
Speaker 2: see and I don't use them. Yeah, and I understand it.
Speaker 2: The problem is their solution is is almost as bad
Speaker 2: as the problem. I mean, for them just to lock
Speaker 2: up stuff, make it more inconvenient for you, who has
Speaker 2: some inconvenience already. Being someone who is.
Speaker 8: Blind, I have to wait. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And all they have to do is, you know, have
Speaker 2: enough employees there who are watching when people come into stores.
Speaker 2: The average person is coming in to shop. There are
Speaker 2: people who are coming into shoplift, but it doesn't take
Speaker 2: long to spot them. Generally, they're coming in, they're looking around.
Speaker 2: They kind of have some that is the coast clear.
Speaker 2: You have all sorts of cameras, you you can you
Speaker 2: can figure that stuff out. But what they've done is
Speaker 2: they said, don't stop them, don't even yell them, let
Speaker 2: them go out. The door, that it's a cost of
Speaker 2: doing business, and now they figured the solution is to
Speaker 2: lock everything up.
Speaker 8: Years ago, they would have the products on the shelf,
Speaker 8: but they would be tied down and somebody would come
Speaker 8: over and help you. And they had plenty of employees.
Speaker 8: I go to CBS occasionally, there's not many employees in there.
Speaker 8: I couldn't believe it. One or two people.
Speaker 2: I think CBS is in trouble. And the other thing
Speaker 2: is they have these as Rob said to me during
Speaker 2: the break, they have these self checkout machines.
Speaker 8: Well, I hate you.
Speaker 2: You're telling me. Well, I don't like them either, but.
Speaker 8: I mean you can use them as the sight of person.
Speaker 4: But they using them.
Speaker 2: You're telling me that somebody who goes into that store
Speaker 2: and is willing to steal something doesn't look at the
Speaker 2: opportunity of a self service machine. I'm going to go
Speaker 2: up there, I'm going to put one I'll pay for
Speaker 2: one item and I'll put another item in. I'll pay
Speaker 2: for one item, I'll put two items in. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the gam thing.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, maybe you can have these people on as
Speaker 8: I guess some of the If the course, probably.
Speaker 2: The local manager is going to say you got to
Speaker 2: talk to corporate, and corporate won't talk to you, so
Speaker 2: I gave up. I mean I would have had someone
Speaker 2: on from Home Depot a long time ago, but I've
Speaker 2: given up on Home Depot. I will go to True
Speaker 2: Value or ACE Hardware, their local stores. They may cost
Speaker 2: a little bit more money, but guess what I saved
Speaker 2: the aggravation of parking.
Speaker 8: And ask you one question, Dan, I have a local
Speaker 8: hardware store around here. They don't have a lot of
Speaker 8: stuff like I'm looking for a good ice maker for
Speaker 8: on the counter. I had one. It broken six months,
Speaker 8: one hundred over one hundred dollars down the tubes and
Speaker 8: I can't find it. And the ones you find are
Speaker 8: four or five hundred dollars and their counter because the
Speaker 8: landlord won't let us put them in here, and the
Speaker 8: hardware stores don't tell them.
Speaker 2: I would suggest what you do is try have someone
Speaker 2: get you on Amazon and see what ice makers are available.
Speaker 8: That's where my cousin and I got this from. I
Speaker 8: paid her and it didn't last. It was just it went.
Speaker 2: But that would be my advice. Joe, that's all right,
Speaker 2: probably the very nice person to ask. Okay, thanks you, Okay,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. All right, we're gonna go next.
Speaker 2: You've gotta get one more in here before the break.
Speaker 2: And it is Patricia in win Her PI.
Speaker 6: Patricia welcome, well zackly Tricia.
Speaker 9: But that's fine Tricia.
Speaker 2: Well okay, then we'll make you know Watricia. If it's Tricia.
Speaker 2: There's no reason why I can't call you Tricia. It
Speaker 2: says Patricia, but it's Tricia.
Speaker 9: That's okay, that's okay, Dan, I've talked to you before,
Speaker 9: so going back with CVS, and I would like to
Speaker 9: know if I'm correct on this. I, you know, questioned
Speaker 9: about you know, the things being locked up. Now this
Speaker 9: saying you can get an app on your phone to
Speaker 9: unlock the door of the thing, and I'm like, what,
Speaker 9: why would I do this?
Speaker 2: Exactly all of these companies, I'm sorry, Yeah, well I
Speaker 2: go crazy with a Star Market. You have the app
Speaker 2: and you can clip coupons, and they just make it
Speaker 2: so confusing. It's like, why don't you just give me
Speaker 2: the best price you want to give me? Okay, and
Speaker 2: I'll be a lawyer customer. No, they want you to
Speaker 2: thank you download the apps and guess what, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good technically I'm not the best, but I'm
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 9: And a lot of people on especially and everything. And
Speaker 9: the thing that gets me, why walk it and then
Speaker 9: give permission for an app to open that? So I
Speaker 9: don't know if I'm talking, turn.
Speaker 2: Talking and you're righting the money. Because as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I noticed that today when I was doing
Speaker 2: a little research on this, and as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: it was an article I think out of let's see
Speaker 2: a CNN and they were talking about, uh, retailers are
Speaker 2: testing what they can call a freedom case. So far,
Speaker 2: twenty six retailers are using this security device. Uh uh,
Speaker 2: And I guess what it is. You download the app
Speaker 2: and then you're standing there and you got to put
Speaker 2: you got to also have your cell phone with you,
Speaker 2: so they're going to send you a code that you have.
Speaker 4: To put in activate the app.
Speaker 2: I mean it's ridiculous. I mean, you're trying to write paste.
Speaker 9: The other thing is to what infuriates me the most,
Speaker 9: as bad as that is when you have a lot
Speaker 9: of items. Oh and it's not the it's not the clerk.
Speaker 9: It's because they've been trained do you need a bag?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Now it's they're asking you do you need
Speaker 2: a bag because they're going to charge you ten.
Speaker 9: Cents, right, But I got to change the subject for
Speaker 9: one moment, and I hope I'm not offending you. You
Speaker 9: know how you say, Charlie Ray, fourteen years everything?
Speaker 2: You know when you're seen years, they're spend.
Speaker 9: Yeah right, yeah, I got to ask you, did you
Speaker 9: ever get another dog?
Speaker 2: No? I didn't. However, my son and his wife have
Speaker 2: a dog. It's a shorty. It's part Shitsu and part Yorkie. Uh.
Speaker 2: Great little guy looks like Willy the Wonder Dog. And
Speaker 2: my daughter and her husband have a dog that's a corky.
Speaker 2: His name is Mustard. And I love both those dogs.
Speaker 2: So I you know how they say when you have grandchildren,
Speaker 2: children and then you send them home, same way with dogs.
Speaker 2: I mean I could play with Willy the dog. I
Speaker 2: can play with Mustard dog. Uh. And then then I
Speaker 2: have when I retire, I'll get a dog. But I
Speaker 2: just ya, I got to tell you. I work all
Speaker 2: day long. I mean, I started nine. I'm not crying here,
Speaker 2: but I'm telling.
Speaker 9: Because God bless you's saying that. And I've always had cats.
Speaker 9: Right now, I live in a condo. I had two cats,
Speaker 9: and I had a put one down.
Speaker 2: But do you know why I said? Do you know
Speaker 2: why I said?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd like to know why.
Speaker 2: I say it for two reasons. Well, when I started
Speaker 2: doing this show in two thousand and seven, Charlie was
Speaker 2: with me. He stayed with me for about two and
Speaker 2: a half more years, and we usual, oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: sleeping in the control room at that point. He was
Speaker 2: about seven and a half years old, and he would
Speaker 2: he was so what a good dog and cavalier King
Speaker 2: Charles Spaniel Blenham Cavalier, which I love that that particular breed,
Speaker 2: So I do it as a tribute to him. But
Speaker 2: I'll also tell you, I can't tell you how many
Speaker 2: listeners have called me and told me that they lost
Speaker 2: a pet. And then when I wrapped the show at
Speaker 2: midnight every night that all dogs, all cats, all pets
Speaker 2: go to Heaven. I do believe that, because what would
Speaker 2: Heaven be like if our pets weren't there? Huh?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 9: Is that every animal? And Noah that on the boat.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, I really don't and
Speaker 2: pray that that we're all up there with our you know,
Speaker 2: eventually with our parents and our siblings. And our our ancestors,
Speaker 2: and uh, I really animals. Sorry, you can call people,
Speaker 2: call me crazy, but that's what I believe, and that's
Speaker 2: why I say it every night.
Speaker 9: I appreciate that. And I said if I call tonight
Speaker 9: because it wasn't a specific subject. And I know a
Speaker 9: both cvs and everything, but I don't know. It's getting koogle,
Speaker 9: my mother used to say. And I'm going to leave
Speaker 9: you with this. You can do anything in this world, anything,
Speaker 9: but if you can put your head on the pillow
Speaker 9: and have a good night's sleep and not feel bad
Speaker 9: about something.
Speaker 2: Oh, let me tell you, a clear conscience is a
Speaker 2: right important commodity. Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, bye, Happy New.
Speaker 2: Year, Thanks, good night, quick break, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: KEB Rolling, You're gonna go to Gary and Wuber and
Speaker 2: Gary next on Nightside, go right, hit sir.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm very familiar with this category. I'm gonna give
Speaker 7: you a compliment. That's why your show stands out when
Speaker 7: you do the human side of stories like this instead
Speaker 7: of politics. That's why it makes your show number one
Speaker 7: way back when, when I was about twenty five years old,
Speaker 7: I used to steal. I'll talk about that after if
Speaker 7: you want to know more. But one thing you did,
Speaker 7: you were like in shock about employees are not doing
Speaker 7: anything with somebody shoplifts at nighttime. Correct.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not in shock about it. I'm in shock
Speaker 2: that the that the businesses don't have some sort of
Speaker 2: a buzzer, particularly at night, where they can immediately contact
Speaker 2: the police without having to pick up the phone. Obviously,
Speaker 2: if somebody walks in the store at eleven o'clock at night,
Speaker 2: and you can tell by looking at the person, they're
Speaker 2: looking around and they're looking pretty pretty sneaky, you know,
Speaker 2: be give them a buzzer ben up to say I'm
Speaker 2: calling the police. Just hit the buzzer and have the
Speaker 2: police there within a couple of minutes.
Speaker 7: You'll explain yourself nicely. Now, my question is this. Let's
Speaker 7: just say somebody's working at a CBS Walgreens and it's
Speaker 7: the third shift, and you know, it's twelve thirty at night,
Speaker 7: and they clearly see somebody stealing something and it's worth
Speaker 7: a value eise anywhere from twenty five to fifty dollars
Speaker 7: and they're walking in fast motion and heading to the entrance,
Speaker 7: and your opinion, what should that employee do.
Speaker 2: I think it's up one to the employee, and obviously
Speaker 2: it's up to the employer to direct the employee. Now again,
Speaker 2: I think the best solution is not to put the
Speaker 2: employee in a confrontation, a physical confrontation where he could
Speaker 2: be injured. He or she could be injured or worse,
Speaker 2: because at that point they could have a lawsuit against
Speaker 2: the employer. But again, a little what they used to
Speaker 2: call them in banks, like joy buttons where the person
Speaker 2: is robbing the bank and all the you know, you're
Speaker 2: not going to say to the robber, excuse me for
Speaker 2: a second, I need to press this button here so
Speaker 2: I can alert the police. You could do that. I mean,
Speaker 2: it'll cost a few bucks probably to get it installed,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a hell of I think it's.
Speaker 7: Worth it, very good because I was going to say,
Speaker 7: confrontation between employees and shoplifters could mean death and physical
Speaker 7: damage to themselves. So that's why the companies still don't
Speaker 7: confront them.
Speaker 3: As far as.
Speaker 7: Restaurants are concerned. I was at all of Godden today
Speaker 7: doing my chicken the usual chickennoki type of soup if
Speaker 7: you've ever heard of it.
Speaker 2: My favorite restaurants. Go ahead, right.
Speaker 5: What happened was the way that comes.
Speaker 7: Up to me and he brought me my food. I
Speaker 7: paid my bill, and he goes, wow, you're an unusual customer.
Speaker 7: I said, well, I want to make sure that you
Speaker 7: know I'm not someone who's gonna show a screw run
Speaker 7: out the door. And they go, oh, that's so nice
Speaker 7: of you. You know why, because we have a share
Speaker 7: of people that do that. They eat their meal and
Speaker 7: they pretend to go to the bathroom, they go right
Speaker 7: out the door.
Speaker 2: All right, they got a bunch of calls. They got
Speaker 2: to get a hit Gary before the break. Okay, man
Speaker 2: to talk soon. Thanks, I appreciate your call. Let's up next.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to real quickly. If I came
Speaker 2: Corin Krinn in Bridgewater, Krin, welcome back, how are you?
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Ray?
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call. I'm gonna bring me Dan Dan.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: The ironic of this is because I'm not in detail,
Speaker 5: so I don't appreciate having to do it after I've
Speaker 5: already worked my job all day. So yeah, But at
Speaker 5: the same time, do you remember, it's like, where are
Speaker 5: we going to? I'm gonna bring you way back, oh,
Speaker 5: at least thirty years ago to remember service merchandise. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they remember that door where they had everything so you
Speaker 5: could see it and then you had to fill it
Speaker 5: out and then you had to pay for it and
Speaker 5: then go wait for it. We're either going to go
Speaker 5: to that story or everything's going to be stores are
Speaker 5: shutting down left and right, and maybe everything will just
Speaker 5: be Amazona. We'll have to worry you're stealing from our
Speaker 5: front doors. Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that. I guess probably the result.
Speaker 2: The result is all we do is do you know,
Speaker 2: grocery shopping over the phone, and we showed everything comes
Speaker 2: out of warehouses. I think that's unfortunate in my opinion.
Speaker 2: You know, I just let's yeah, let's let's let's let's
Speaker 2: try to get back to a decent society, a decent
Speaker 2: group of people who you know, who work and and
Speaker 2: who pay for what they for what they owe, you know,
Speaker 2: for what they buy. I just think that exactly that
Speaker 2: we are going in the wrong direction. Let's keep let's
Speaker 2: see if if we can get this country back on track.
Speaker 5: Simple as that that's right, the ethics aren't there. But
Speaker 5: my girlfriend who does work down in Florida, actually she
Speaker 5: worked for a sporting goods store, which we're all familiar with,
Speaker 5: and she ended up leaving there because she was so
Speaker 5: angry because she was told told to You see them
Speaker 5: stuff in their bags. You see them stuffing their shirts
Speaker 5: with all sorts of clothing and expensive items, and they
Speaker 5: don't want anybody saying anything. They just let them go it.
Speaker 5: So the store has a reputation for this, and she says,
Speaker 5: it's not just us, it's all around us. This is well.
Speaker 2: Once once that they know, once that the bad guys
Speaker 2: know what the stores are not going to do, they'll
Speaker 2: go right ahead and and they make themselves a target.
Speaker 2: It's like open season. I got to keep rolling here, Corina,
Speaker 2: I will talk toon. Okay, thank you so much? All
Speaker 2: right by about all right? Let me, I gotta go
Speaker 2: quickly here. I'm gonna you know what, I don't want
Speaker 2: to short change these guys. So that's that's not fair.
Speaker 2: What have we got? Only a minute? Phil and Alex
Speaker 2: you stay there. I'll take you guys on the other side.
Speaker 2: I don't want to short change anyone I'm willing to
Speaker 2: carry this topic over simply because I think people are
Speaker 2: interested in it, so I can reset it. On the
Speaker 2: other side of the ten, Phil and Alex will be
Speaker 2: first up, and I'd like you to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: What can we do about this? This is something that
Speaker 2: is corrosive to the core of our society, that there's
Speaker 2: a certain element of people who now feel they can
Speaker 2: walk into stores and walk out, and we're all paying
Speaker 2: a price. We're paying a price in terms of more
Speaker 2: expensive products that we pay for when we buy them,
Speaker 2: and also more inconvenience when we have to wait to
Speaker 2: have a store item like toothpaste or deorder it. Someone
Speaker 2: come with a lock and key to open it up
Speaker 2: so I can buy a nine dollars item. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Back on Night's side, got a couple of lines open.
Speaker 2: We'll keep going six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. I wasn't
Speaker 2: going to show change either Fill or Alex. They'll be
Speaker 2: first up. You'll be after that. Give us a call.