Speaker 1: Whatever's in the ways.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Parent Experiments with Lynette Corolla aunts Susannah Brisk.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parent Experiment. I'm Lynnette Corolla, I'm Susannah Brisk.
And today's show we have Stephanie Wilder Taylor, one of
our favorite authors, love her, Yeah, who wrote many books.
One of my favorites is Sippy Cupster for Chardonnay. Yeah,
she was on Oprah. She was an Oprah. Oprah brought
up her book or she was on Oprah, right, Stephanie, yeah, nodding, yes, yeah.
So today we're going to talk about all kinds of
fun stuff like sober parenting during the holidays and Stephanie's
recent blog about tips for a happy marriage. Speaking of that,
Speaking of that, by the way, my goodness, I've never
seen Susannah so happy. I've never seen a person so
happy to see their husband. We were just doing a
show with Mary Wiland and uh, it's fine, don't worry
about it, and and Barry, her husband, came in and
she I thought. I thought it was like she almost
won the lottery, or it was like she saw the
ghost of Tom Joad or I don't know what it was,
but I've never seen somebody so excited to see somebody
in my whole life.
Speaker 2: He's been away.
Speaker 1: It's pretty nauseating, actually.
Speaker 2: Is it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, really, it just makes me jealous.
Speaker 2: Really, it's so interesting. Sometimes we wonder if people, you know,
resent it. I mean, he's been away, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I could see that v I he's been
away for a long time with that guy Lane.
Speaker 2: Both guys you know what, just pays the fucking mortgage.
Speaker 1: So let's okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Anyway, he is gorgeous, and he brought everybody cupcakes, and
now I'm all squishy. M Yeah.
Speaker 1: Susannah's like nuzzling up against him and like smelling his
neck and jumping up and down. And I thought you
were gonna knock him over when she locked out of here.
She's like as tall as he is. How tall is he?
Speaker 2: Six'?
Speaker 1: Four you're like as tall as him.
Speaker 2: ALMOST i have heels.
Speaker 1: On, yeah you jumped on top of. HIM i THOUGHT
i was gonna fall over on ad of the ferrari back,
there knock over.
Speaker 2: Him AND i KNOW i jumped in his. Arms that
was that was a little bit, Cruel but considering, well,
NO i work out fuck, it he should be able
to catch. Me, YES i. DO i love my hobby
and it's been over a. Decade so. There well that's.
Speaker 1: Nice, no that's.
Speaker 2: Good three days from, Now i'll be, like, listen, aushole
why did you get back out on the.
Speaker 1: Road, well we're going to talk about we're going to
talk about tips for a happy. Marriage, yeah so maybe
you can chime in on.
Speaker 2: THAT i could seriously write a book about. THAT i
really do feel. That.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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are you.
Speaker 3: Good i'm so happy to be.
Speaker 1: Back so we're happy to have you back because you're
one of our favorite.
Speaker 4: Authors, wow thank you you love for your.
Speaker 2: Books, hilarious laugh out, loud. Funny thank. You and one
of the things that's great about you is that because
there's the whole thing about the mommy. Writers it's, like
first of, all that's another whole other topic for a,
Show but you're one of those people who are just
funny whatever you write. About it's, like if you were
a mom you'd be. Funny if you were a, chiropractor
you'd be. Funny if you were a brain, surgeon you'd
write funny stuff about. That and that's the favorite kind
of mommy author THAT i.
Speaker 1: Love what if she was a rodeo player, writer.
Speaker 3: LOOK i could, YEAH i, mean you, know if she
was inherently, hilarious if.
Speaker 2: She's a rodeo, clown she might be.
Speaker 1: Funny so, So, stephan what are you doing? Nowadays you
you have three books that are available On.
Speaker 3: Amazon, yes and, uh and THEN i have a fourth
one coming out In. June, wow what is? That it's
a it's another memoir with essays in.
Speaker 2: It advanced signed copy, Please oh.
Speaker 3: EXCELLENT i haven't even seen. It it's coming out Until.
June BUT i just finished that. One that's it's called
them kind of a big deal and other delusions of adequacy.
Speaker 1: And what's it.
Speaker 3: About it's more like of me moving TO la in
my twenties and having a lot of big ideas of you,
know things that would, achieve and it's kind of WHERE
i got myself into a lot of bad situations but
always thought that it would work out really, well and you,
know usually.
Speaker 1: Yeah well it did work out well for you.
Speaker 3: Because you're in the long, run it did work. Out
it was funny, though because my other book was, similar
the last BOOK i, Wrote it's not me it's. You
AND i had the funniest comments On amazon and the
reviews just, like, wow she's so, dysfunctional just what a horrible.
Story AND i was, like but it worked.
Speaker 2: Out, right you.
Speaker 1: Know. YEAH i don't. Know people feel like they have
to write negative shit.
Speaker 2: Online all my advice would be not to read The
amazon reviews because those people ARE.
Speaker 1: I have to say one thing, though to. Brag i'm
not trying to, brag But adam has on His amazon,
reviews it's. ALL i, mean most of. THEM i think
it's like A i don't. Know there's like over way
over one hundred five star, reviews which is. Nice that's. Great,
yeah one.
Speaker 3: Or, two well he has a few fans two.
Speaker 1: Stars, yeah, no he got his majority is five four
and five.
Speaker 3: Stars, well when exciting When Sippy cups are not For
shardenay came, out you, know people didn't know WHO i.
WAS i was an unknown, author and so the. Reviews
a lot of people just went crazy with the negative
reviews because they would find something about the book that
they didn't, like like the fact THAT i didn't, breastfeed
well attempted. To we talked about this last. Time, yeah
and then they would just go. Crazy you, know this
is she's a bad.
Speaker 2: Person this is such a.
Speaker 3: Neggat it's such a horrible. Book it's. Dangerous don't read this.
Book and you, know at first it hurt my, feelings
BUT i kind of found it. Amusing, yeah you do.
Speaker 1: CRAZY i know people are.
Speaker 2: Crazy do you want to reach inside my bra take
out my breast and put it in my baby's? Mouth
what business is it of yours Whether i'm lactating or
not or? Where?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah it's so.
Speaker 3: Weird this is the one part of parenting that's gotten
really extreme because people have opinions about the way you.
Speaker 1: PARENT i don't know what the the urge is to
judge other, Moms, like it's hard enough to be a.
Mom why can't you just whatever works for, them let them?
Be why do you have to just sit there and?
Judge why do you have to bash? Them we get
it breastfeeding is good for your, kid but that it's
not for, Everybody so what leave them? Alone what you?
Speaker 3: KNOW i? Agree and you know what you know who's
guilty of? IT a lot is people that aren't even.
Moms and you get people who already have their ideas
of how you should parent and what the right way
and the wrong way is before they've even had. Kids
AND i always just want to, say when you have a, child, right, well,
no you still can't judge you have a. Child but
when you have a, child you'll get. It you, know
you'll get. That all of your ideas about you know
how we're all turning our kids INTO tv, Addicts, well
when you have a child and you realize that the
only time you can take a shower is when your
child's WATCHING, tv, right then you'll see do your kids WATCH?
Tv my kids WATCH?
Speaker 1: Tv do you watch a lot OF? Tv go, ahead
Because i'll say, it my kids watch.
Speaker 3: What's a lot OF? Tv is six hours a day
a lot OF? Tv, then, yes they watch a lot Of.
Speaker 1: My. Kids my kids WATCH tv at certain times of the.
Day they, don't they don't watch it during the, day
but they watch it at the end of the. Day
they too WATCH. Tv or if they wake up way
too early and they go downstairs and WATCH. Tv you know,
what it's.
Speaker 3: Relaxing And i'll tell you another thing ABOUT. Tv my,
daughter WHO i think kind of watched a lot OF,
tv is you, know fully Reading and she just turned
Six AND i swear to. YOU i Credit Sesame street
and some of the shows that she watched with like
teaching her letters and teaching Her not THAT i didn't
read to her all the, time because they. Did BUT
i just think THAT tv these days can be pretty.
Educational it's not just.
Speaker 1: Cartoons, yeah, absolutely it's.
Speaker 2: Not like you're letting them watch. Porn people stop the.
Speaker 3: Judge, WELL i, am but it's.
Speaker 2: Educational but it's only mommy and daddy, education showing them
how they were.
Speaker 1: MADE i, say you got a porn or two with your. Husband, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 2: Footage there is no. Footage. NO i don't trust one
person in this universe.
Speaker 1: Back there in the. Warehouse so we caught you just.
Speaker 3: The way you two are going at each.
Speaker 2: Other M, Well i'm making a feature next, year so
there'll be plenty of footage of me with another, guy
not my.
Speaker 1: Husband so let's talk about helicopter. Parenting that's one of
the things we were going to talk about.
Speaker 3: Too, okay let's. Judge, yeah let's start.
Speaker 1: Judging see those helicopter moms by the, Way Ah, god
we were talking about that the other couple of weeks
ago With Craig, shoemaker the comedian there's an amazing by the,
Way yeah he's, funny but he was talking about the
helicopter moms that that happened out, here how they're just
circling their kids and they can't let them go and
do their own.
Speaker 3: Thing and, yeah, WELL i, mean here's the here's the.
PROBLEM i think that the times have. Changed you. Know
it's not like we can just let our kids roam
the streets LIKE i used to WHEN i was you, know,
eleven and you could just run, outside go to your
neighbor's house and. Play you, know stuff, Happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah you'll get them. Molested and exactly, right.
Speaker 3: We'll get them all, molested.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: When it. Happens so WHAT i think what happens is
and especially because we're more aware of every tiny little
news story you, know yeah that gets. Molested, okay now
we have to all be.
Speaker 2: ALARMED i mean, seriously to make a song and dance
every time somebody touches you in an inappropriate.
Speaker 3: Place, God but, so, okay we're all worried about, it,
Right but THEN i think some people it taps into
their neurotic, side and then you get these people that
then you, know you know What i'm talking About it
spurs them into becoming paranoid about. Everything, right and then
it's like the food their kids, eat and the and
they can't play outside by, them you, know sells for two.
Seconds and you know we all know people like, that
but THERE'S i and they make us, crazy.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i have friends who take it another step. Further
it drives me and saying, that, well they'll their little
kid will be playing in our presence in my living
room and she can't just sit down on the couch
and let her kids play with my. Kids she has
to sit with her on the floor and, well did
you see and ask her what she thinks about? This
and and and you, know did you use your? Words
and all this stuff like just.
Speaker 3: God these parents that are way too, Involved, yes but
inore your kids like a normal.
Speaker 1: PERSON i, WISH i mean it would.
Speaker 2: Be when you see somebody like for, example once somebody
was telling me about watching a mom at the. Pool
it was like the public pool and the mom was
literally just like yelling stuff out at the, kid just
couldn't let the kid just. Enjoy was all, like did
you use your? Words arms are not for? Hitting you,
know all the little. Slogans it was like your.
Speaker 3: Words what about when the helicopter.
Speaker 2: From a bird and then you spend twenty years at
drama school learning how to use your body again because
everybody's told you have to be dead from the neck. Down?
Speaker 3: Yeah what about what about when helicopter parents' parent your?
Kids you ever get that where they's so they're so
busy helicoptering their own kids that they need to tell
you what your kids are?
Speaker 1: Doing kids caught up in the? Helicoptering, yeah, like oh
do you see what he's?
Speaker 3: Doing? Oh do you want do you want your your
child to be eating a whole? Grape do you want
to cut up your? Grapes? Yeah, NO i don't want
to cut up my. Grapes my kid's, three, right he
could eat a grape right at?
Speaker 2: This or what about all your kids eating? Dirt, yeah
well probably they.
Speaker 1: Won't CALCIUM i get THE i get my then the same,
friend she'll she'll parent my daughter because then they'll she'll be, like, Oh,
natalia you know Little Louis lucy lou was playing with.
That do you think you could let her play with
it for a few minutes and then we can take?
Turns you, know when it's you know It's natalia's, toy
and it's, like let them figure it, out let them
work it.
Speaker 2: Out That Lucy lou is way too old to be
playing with that. Doll mm.
Speaker 3: Hmm you know, What i'll tell you something because we have,
twins so we have it even a whole a slightly
different situation because at some, point if we were to
get involved with our kids, disputes that's all we would
be doing all. Day that would be our absolute full time.
Speaker 1: Job that's true when you have.
Speaker 3: Twins you, KNOW i might have felt a little differently
because my older one's, six, maybe but now THAT i have,
twins it's LIKE i have to just let them work it.
Out they fight all, day, right all day, long and
you know if you do let them, go eventually they
do reach some kind of, agreement right because they have to.
Do your. Kids they just turned, three so you're my
little my little.
Speaker 1: Girls girls and three year old.
Speaker 3: Twins yeah, yeah and then my older one just turns.
Speaker 2: Six how's she doing year older? One is she? Good?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good the one that was having problems was my
little twin, Twins, skinny she's doing.
Speaker 2: Well she remember reading that. Blog it was very very
touching because a lot Of we are actually going to
do a show about special needs because Both lynette AND
i have some experience with kids with having special. Needs
and again we've talked about. This everybody has, something BUT
i thought that blog was very. Touching, yeah, well she
she was very.
Speaker 3: Small she was born two pounds AND i had something
called I u G, r which is intri uterine growth,
restriction so they had to deliver me. Early so one
of my twins was fine and the other one was,
small and, uh you, know she's just had a lot of.
Struggles people that have, this the kids that are small
for their gestational age OFTENTIMES i have eating. Problems and,
yeah she, had she had delays and she ended up
having to have a feeding tube when she was. One
it was the weak. Game but you know, what it's all.
Good you, know she still kind of is what it. Is,
yeah yesterday we weighed. Her she was twenty four. Pounds,
wow that slob AND i love. It, yeah good for,
you little.
Speaker 2: Chunka, yeah her sister's.
Speaker 3: Thirty four pounds and she's twenty four. Pounds but it's, fantastic.
Fantastic the hardest thing really for me is that people
will see me with my twins, together and it's the
obnoxious comments they. Make they'll they'll go how old are?
They And i'll, say, oh they're they're, three or you,
know up until recently they were they're, two and they'd,
say both of, Them, yeah they're.
Speaker 4: Twins they're. Twins, really, yeah they're. TWINS i, go you,
know what's so? FUNNY i get the absolute opposite. Thing they,
go how old are? THEY i, go he's five and he's.
Six they're not. Twins, no they're not. Twins that they're,
not because this one's the younger ones. Bigger, yeah, really
thank you for noticing.
Speaker 3: THAT i so.
Speaker 2: Relate isn't that funny they're not? Twins or what about
when they had long? Hair it was, like oh she's so. Pretty, no, no,
no that's a. Boy are you? Sure well it's fairly.
SURE i MEAN i could be.
Speaker 1: Wrong, yeah my, GOSH i get The, YEAH i get
THE i get are they? FRATERNAL i have boy girl?
Twins or? No are they? IDENTICAL i get, that, like
how old are?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Sir you don't, know you don't know?
Speaker 3: What they look so much? Alike yeah and a, girl they're.
Speaker 1: Identical penises look exactly the.
Speaker 2: Same we're teaching how to appreciate her little. Penis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah people don't know what they're talking.
Speaker 1: About, no, No but, anyway so speaking of people that
don't know what they're talking, about you had a recent
blog just.
Speaker 2: KIDDING i, mean.
Speaker 3: We love, people that's the, thing bottom, Line we love.
People people mean, well, RIGHT i mean, like, yeah they
do mean, well it's just you know what it. Is
it's when they argue with, you when you, know when
you try to tell, them you know, What, yeah they're,
twins and they're just but she's so. Small, yeah but
they're still. Twins it doesn't change, it you, know and
you try to just move, it move it, along.
Speaker 1: Take it after her. Mama yeah they're.
Speaker 3: Different oh, Okay and then they want to engage you in.
It and then and you want to you, KNOW i
don't know, you AND i don't feel like speaking about
my kids too needs with, You but thank you for your.
Observation do you ever say, that you know what When
i'm in a bad. Mood every once in a, WHILE i. Do,
yeah they're. Twins, yes she's, smaller that's. It, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to discuss that with.
Speaker 1: You move, on old.
Speaker 2: Lady i'll tell You i've done a lot of, boundaries you,
guys and SOMETIMES i can just Say i'm not going
to discuss.
Speaker 1: That, yeah So, Stephanie, yes the, Holidays, yes do you
have a hard time? Now you were drinking a. LOT
i was drinking like a, fish and we talked about.
Speaker 3: That CAN i stop? Drinking?
Speaker 1: Right and so now you're. SOBER i am sober as a, rock.
Speaker 2: Sober as a.
Speaker 3: Judge i'm. Sober i'm still so fun, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah and do you miss the? Drinking you?
Speaker 2: KNOW i tell you something? Time of, COURSE i just
tell you something WHEN i came on here a long
time with somebody and was, LIKE i don't even remember
who the guest. Was AND i mentioned THAT i don't.
Drink oh you don't. Either, no we're friends Of bill
and what's? Up and, Uh and then it goes you
need a? DRINK i swear to, God she's, like why
don't you, Drink, susana you're so tense you need a? Drink,
well that's an. Alcoholic IF i miss, drinking WELL i,
meantime it's like it's such a broad kind Of.
Speaker 1: So you do miss? Drinking is that WHAT i shouldn't
talk about?
Speaker 3: It we talked about this last. Time but WHAT i
do miss more than, drinking you, know because the number
one cause of, hangovers by the, way is. Drinking SO
i don't AND i don't miss Hangover, no AND i
miss the fact that there was a shortcut to feeling.
Better that's WHAT i. Miss it's, like you know, what
it's such a drag when you're tense or when you're
having a bad day to go, like we'll do some. Yoga,
NO i don't want to do some. YOGA i want
to take a vica. In, yeah you, know but you.
Can't so then you have to go all, Right i'll
eat something, thotting Or i'll watch zone out and WATCH,
tv Or i'll you, know but about what you?
Speaker 2: Pray come, on, girl you hate your knees and say
that serenity?
Speaker 3: Prayer, yeah you, KNOW i do that.
Speaker 1: Too did you do the twelve step thing or? Something
you guys are twelve? Step but what is that what you're?
Talking you don't we talk about.
Speaker 3: The Twelfth that's the first rule of twelve step is.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about. That it's actually the twelfth, tradition
which is that. Anonymity anonymity is a spiritual foundation about.
Traditions isn't that the eleventh tradition, whichever?
Speaker 1: Whatever okay about it?
Speaker 2: Now so, no but most people who are sober are
singing in a twelve step, program and the twelve step
program the whole kind of theory behind it is that
if you replace drinking or your drug of choice or
watching Television, lynnette or Shopping lynette with the shopping thing
is not really your thing getting a bargain is.
Speaker 3: More is this an, Intervention, Fornet it's.
Speaker 2: NOT i Wish i'm trying to find out what our thing.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 3: Addicted we see that's not talk.
Speaker 5: About that is clearly reality television. Yea And Bruce, Springsteen,
yeah that's.
Speaker 2: True the whole thing with the twelve steps is that
you're replacing. Spirituality you're you're replacing your drug of choice with,
spirituality because for an, addict unless you can give us something,
better we'll keep doing the.
Speaker 1: Thing what if you're not a spiritual, Person, well.
Speaker 2: That's why you're probably an. Addict that's the whole that's
the whole tenet of the twelve step thing is that.
Speaker 3: It's about, well, okay so for most, addicts they need
to just accept the fact that there they have an.
Addiction once you can really accept the fact that this
is a problem for, you it's like you can kind
of move. On they call it turning it. Over you,
know you can turn it over and go there's NOTHING
i can do about, this and stop fighting it so,
hard and then you can ask help from your higher.
Self it really be. Anything it can be the clock on.
Speaker 2: The, wall for the for the, hundreds another.
Speaker 3: Person so there's another program for.
Speaker 1: You do you have a hard Time do you have
a hard time during certain periods of times of the
year or certain periods of times of the. Day you,
know it's a good.
Speaker 3: Question, yeah the holidays are are tough because AND i.
DO i remember waking up on This thanksgiving morning and, Thinking,
GOD i really used to Associate thanksgiving with a whole
day of like watching, football having some, drinks and you,
know that's sometimes HOW i WHAT i associate, relaxing you, know.
Family but then you just have to do something, else, yeah.
Speaker 1: You, know and then once you divert your thoughts to something,
else you forget about, it right.
Speaker 3: Or, No, YEAH i mean.
Speaker 2: Briefly the thing, Is, lynette that that's a really great
question about the, holidays because if you've ever been in
any twelve step Room around the, holidays they are, Packed,
chris unless they're you, know packed with people who are
not out there, drinking because most people do go, out
as you call it in the, program if you're going
to drink or drug or whatever is during those. Holidays
for some, reason those are very difficult for. People AND
i think one it's because you see maybe members of
your family who push your. Buttons, yeah for. Sure and
if you grew up in an alcoholic, home then that
has some kind of memory for you that you also
associate with, alcoholism with your with your. Addictions so but.
Speaker 3: That and Also i'll add that holidays are a period
where people tend to feel lonely because they some, people you,
know have this image of what the perfect family should look,
like or that they should be with loved, ones and
a lot of people aren't with loved. Ones and then
that makes it even harder because loneliness can make people
want to fill that to.
Speaker 1: Leanness, Yeah, so sober parenting during the holidays is preferable
to drunk, Parenting, yes.
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY i, mean you, know for, Me i'm getting used
to it. Now i've been you, know going on going
on two years and year and a half and, Congratulations, yeah.
Speaker 1: Congratulations you get.
Speaker 3: Used to you, Know i've had my firsts and so
you kind of know what to, expect SO i haven't
been hit by as. Many it was definitely harder the first,
year you, know the first. Holiday first everything is harder
when you've just quit doing something that used to make
you feel.
Speaker 1: Good CAN i talk really quick just what you were?
Doing you were? DRINKING i was.
Speaker 3: Drinking, yeah WELL i was drinking and then at, night you,
KNOW i took the ON x for anxiety and, uh you,
know IF i had a you, know dental, SURGERY i
had Vico in on, hand and you, know SO i
had my. Fun i'm just.
Speaker 2: That big fan of the nitrous. Myself then turn that
ship right up the D i thought that WAS lsd FREE.
LSD i kept looking at the dentists, like are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Me but you can't take it with, you? Right or can?
Speaker 2: You you don't need to take it with. You you
get that, experience you take the.
Speaker 1: Trip people take, nitrous people.
Speaker 3: Buy, it, Right don't people do?
Speaker 2: That you KNOW i don't have those kind of.
Speaker 1: Connections dealer down On, Crunshaw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Exactly oh, Man, YEAH i was. Doing you know,
WHAT i was doing a lot the mommy. DRUGS i
call them the things that are mom's little. Helper, yeah
the things that are easily accessible to your rent of
the mill.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i wasn't hanging in any cool fun you, know
cocaine dealing mommy circles or you, know get my hands
in any. COIN i don't know what they are, either
BUT i just, thought how can they.
Speaker 1: Know there's a friend of mine THAT i used to
was friends with back in the day in high school
and after high school and college and, stuff and she
was always doing blow all the, time AND i was,
like you, know just wasn't for. ME i, know smoke.
POT i like to be a. DOWNER i don't want
to be ALL.
Speaker 3: I like to be down. TO i did coke WHEN
i was. TWENTY i. QUIT i knew it could potentially
be a problem for. ME i think the last TIME
i did, IT i was. Twenty and the weird thing
IS i haven't seen it SINCE i know where is?
Speaker 1: It but then we didn't.
Speaker 2: Don't do?
Speaker 1: It, yeah but then we just did. It we all
got back together again Because Van halen went back Only
rock so so we all got together and, uh we
went to The Van halen concert and and she came
and she's a mother of two and she's still doing
blow and she's, like you want to? Bump And i'm
like a. BUMP i was, like are you? Kidding i've
been seeing it all the. Time she's still doing But i'm,
like you gotta be. Kidding her friend told me that
she does it all the. Time how can you be on?
Blow and really?
Speaker 3: Should do you know what's My she probably gets cleaning
down a lot around the, house, though do you know
what is probably a lot cleaner than? Mine are we
watching The Real housewives Of Beverly hills?
Speaker 1: Though, yes of Course i'm. UPSET i Ad adam AND
i Why, yeah there you? Go and that doesn't hurt.
You you don't get a?
Speaker 3: Hang? Okay can we please talk About?
Speaker 1: Camille what's wrong with?
Speaker 2: HER i can't take the matching face. Jobs you don't
have the?
Speaker 1: Squirrel talk about she had a?
Speaker 3: Personality, YES i have been spending a lot of time diagnosing.
Speaker 1: Her what is she? Is she a sociopath because she
asks the way she thinks a person is supposed to.
Speaker 3: Act that's What i'm, thinking, right she doesn't think people, notice, right.
Speaker 1: Do you see when she Saw kelsey for the first,
time CAN i get a little sugar?
Speaker 3: Like and she thinks it's like, yes she doesn't know
if she's supposed to be playing with her, kids or
how she's supposed to interact with, people.
Speaker 1: Or how's wrong with?
Speaker 3: Her and then with Her, oh come on those sound
bites where she's her confessionals where she's, SAYING i, WIN
i win BECAUSE i kept my cool.
Speaker 1: Right and she's painfully. Shy she's painfully. Shy she wants
to make on a.
Speaker 5: BARF i can't stand.
Speaker 1: Her she's on a reality she's the star of a reality.
Show if you're painfully, shy why do you wan ON?
Speaker 3: TV i can't stand her, Either BUT i wish the
whole show is just About. CAMILLE i, KNOW i, know,
seriously every scene that goes away from, Her i'm, like
can we get back To? CAMILLE i know her.
Speaker 1: Craziness, NO i could care less about the maloof. Chick
she's just kind of. Boring, yeah he's a nice.
Speaker 3: Guy she seems like she might even be a good. Mom,
right get out of here.
Speaker 1: NOW i.
Speaker 2: Know it's like a car.
Speaker 1: Crush it, Is it's like it's it IS i watch
it With adam on the. WEEKENDS i watch it. TWICE
i watch it On thursday, night and THEN i watch
it With adam on A saturday.
Speaker 3: Morning what about the, guy the old creepy guy who's
always with her right in the hot, time and he
was like staring at all their. Tits you know What
i'm talking.
Speaker 1: About she doesn't watch.
Speaker 2: It i've only say it a little. BIT i got too.
Speaker 3: Scared, yeah, yeah there's there's this like this old fat
guy who's always, around who has like some kind of
young hottie, wife and they're they're just always. There and
Then camille had that that scene where she was, like,
YEAH i THINK i have A jesus complex BECAUSE i
just love to help people so much AND i let you.
GUYS i gave you guys somewhere to live, well and
they're always with.
Speaker 2: Her what is?
Speaker 1: THAT i don't know who they?
Speaker 5: Are she buys her. FRIENDS i mean it's clear that
it's her by the, way it's her hairstylist or her makeup.
Speaker 3: Artist that's her best. Friend right when she SAID i
need to go be with my true friends after having
the people she Pays.
Speaker 1: Kyle and how uncomfortable Was kelsey when she walked into
that dress.
Speaker 3: Backstage, yeah and he was, like can you please leave
so we could.
Speaker 1: Talk about unhappy marriages and keys to a happy?
Speaker 3: Marriage she's happy.
Speaker 2: Marriage REALITY tv show is not one of the keys
to a happy.
Speaker 1: Marriage, no it iscommend not but watching it together is
BECAUSE i enjoy Being but.
Speaker 3: Making fun of other people's marriages is a. Plus, yes
that's a good thing for your.
Speaker 1: Marriage so we're going to see that they're going to
be separating sometime. Soon, Yes, now did you read the
article that she was in? Magazine did you smell bullshit
to that? Article because, YEAH i mean she's talking about
how she was blindsided and he was like so cruel and.
Hurtful it was like something wasn't right the.
Speaker 2: KIDS i read that In people BECAUSE i read it.
Online she, goes the kids don't even know that daddy's
not coming. Back, well who the fuck is going to tell?
Them if you don't, so then who what are you
going to? Do it's it's not.
Speaker 3: Here if they have ears or, eyes they probably have a.
Speaker 1: FEELING i feel sorry for me.
Speaker 3: TOO i feel sorry for all kids on all of
the franchises Of Real.
Speaker 1: Housewives, yeah how about.
Speaker 2: On, Cape john are the real Victims cape and all
of the. Shows how about any kid who's ever been
put on a reality?
Speaker 3: Show do you, remember like when realities first started getting,
big the kids were never On that was like a big. Thing, Really,
yeah the kids weren't on reality and all of a,
sudden nobody. Cares they're all.
Speaker 1: On, yeah it's a free for. ALL i love. Hoarders oh,
yeah that's a good makes me clean my. HOUSE i like,
intervention love.
Speaker 3: IT i am so excited by the. WAY i know
you mentioned this on the on your other, show BUT
i cannot wait For Celebrity.
Speaker 1: Rehab it's SO i, KNOW i can't. DYING i know
it's gonna Be it's a good. Season, Drew it's gonna be.
Good yeah he, Does, yeah he gets into.
Speaker 2: It so what are your? Tip what are your tips
for a happy? Marriage although after you saw me jump
in my husband's, lap you said you would like to
come back from the.
Speaker 3: WAR i think you were thirteen And Justin bieber just
walked in the rooms. INSANE i think that's. Cute THOUGH
i did think it was. CUTE i, mean you, know just.
Speaker 2: Because you And adam don't show. AFFECTION i finally made
him show affection to you one day BECAUSE i was,
like they don't even touch each. Other and THEN i
said something to, you AND i said something to her and.
You when you guys hugged and, kissed it made me so.
HAPPY i literally teared up because you're so your, soulmates
AND i don't think there's anything wrong with letting people
see is get a glimpse of that. OCCASIONALLY i understand you're,
protective BUT i don't have a problem WITH. PDA i
actually THINK pda is a happy.
Speaker 1: Marriage, YEAH i, don't it. Doesn't BUT i also.
Speaker 3: Think that getting in the huge this is one of my,
tips getting in a huge fight with your spouse in,
public maybe with some domestic, violence is a good way
to show that even happy couples fight, sometimes.
Speaker 2: You, know perfectly without police, intervention.
Speaker 1: Though but don't you think there's a problem when a
happy couple fight over the same. Day, yes but the
problem keeps. Arising it's just going to lead to more and.
Speaker 2: More but then it's really not about the peanut, butter is.
Speaker 3: IT i you, KNOW i think THAT i think that
a lot of there are a lot of stressors that,
happen especially when you have. Kids since this is the parenting,
EXPERIMENT i, think you, know it's it's. Tough you do
have to work harder at your marriage once you've had,
kids especially. Twins, yeah twins are like a serious marriage.
KILLER i think. REALLY i just think because you, know
you take a regular couple who has one, baby and that.
Starts that causes stress because you, know people fight in
the middle of the. Night if your, kid you, know
they're not, sleeping you're not, sleeping your sleep. Deprived that's
when your worst personality comes. Out it's really. Difficult you,
know my sister in, law my brother and sister in
law just had a baby and they're experiencing that right.
Now AND i think the best thing THAT i can
tell them is it's totally. Normal like they're, like all
of a, sudden we're having full on fights at four
o'clock in the, morning and.
Speaker 1: Because they're sleep, deprived they're sleep, deprived.
Speaker 3: They don't even know what they're. Saying you, know you
just start bickering with each other because you don't even
you don't even know which ends. Up and THEN i
think that if you can't recognize that you have a
good marriage and that you love each, other then those
things can kind of take over and then you, think,
oh maybe we just don't even get along with each,
other you. Know SO i think it's important to keep reminding,
yourself you know that you're on the same, team, right
and that you're there to help each other and that
you have each other's best interests at.
Speaker 2: Heart then AND i are nodding. EMPHATICALLY i think too
many people have the back door. OPEN i have to
tell you WHEN i see all the celebrity, divorces AND i,
MEAN i, KNOW i, understand AND i know In, hollywood you,
know being together for a, decade which is actually not
even that. Long, really In, hollywood people are, really oh my,
god like because it's it's it's. Hard there are a
lot of other stressors. Here but you have to be
willing to do. It like it's not just like. Nothing
it's not, like OH i can. Devoice he's annoying, me, Right.
Speaker 3: WELL i am, always aren't you always? SURPRISED i MEAN
i read almost every. Day i'm a little bit obsessed with.
That these people that you think are happy couples and
then you hear they.
Speaker 1: Separated, yeah that's why they're in the acting. BUSINESS i,
Know Like tony And. EVA i feel.
Speaker 2: Bad OH i knew they weren't going to work. Out,
REALLY i saw him On. OPERA i was, LIKE i
give him maybe three.
Speaker 1: Years really you could tell my body?
Speaker 2: Language really but, heat he's a sports.
Speaker 3: Guy are all people that are playing sports canna?
Speaker 2: CHEAT i didn't think.
Speaker 1: THEY i thought that.
Speaker 3: HE'S i mean Not Tiger woods because he's, different, Right but.
Speaker 1: BUT i THOUGHT i THOUGHT i thought he thought he
had it made With. Eva you, KNOW i thought he
felt like he got the jackpot with her because she's so.
Hot SO i, thought, oh they're they're gonna be, good because.
Speaker 3: It doesn't ever seem no matter how good looking the person,
is does.
Speaker 1: IT i guess. Not but he was having an affair
with uh.
Speaker 3: Her his players a player from his team's.
Speaker 2: Wife maybe.
Speaker 5: Not he, was, okay is this culture of them like
he's totally making eye contact with the other.
Speaker 3: Woman what about the body? Language but we don't know what.
Speaker 1: LANGUAGE i feel bad, because you know, what she's the
nicest out of all of. Them, actually on The Desperate,
housewives she is she worked AT abc for eight, years
and she she was the nicest out of all of.
Them the rest of them are. Horrid it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Wonderful oh she's a.
Speaker 1: Bitch she's just focusing On she's.
Speaker 3: Not she's, like, okay what ABOUT i.
Speaker 1: Can tell you stories went?
Speaker 3: There, yeah well she.
Speaker 1: Is i'll say it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be a good gossip.
Speaker 1: Show, yeah well they are all they're all just. Focusing
why they're not focusing?
Speaker 2: Everybody now they're.
Speaker 1: Not you can be and you can focus and be.
Nice you don't have to be a. Bitch you don't
have to.
Speaker 2: Be BUT i, mean why do people expect.
Speaker 1: People it was the nicest one out of all.
Speaker 2: Of, them and she's the worst. Actress, well she's okay together,
nice you're A i think she's.
Speaker 1: BETTER i think she's better Than Felicity hoffman Because Felicity
hoffin is a one in one.
Speaker 2: Note when she played a man on a movie that
she nominated for give me a. Break she comes from.
Theater she's a real.
Speaker 1: Actress she's very what's the redhead? Too The redhead's? Awful
she does the. Same she speaks with why and he
whispers all across.
Speaker 2: Twins yeah the city is a theater.
Speaker 3: Actor you, whatever she's a bit what about? Okay but
what did you talking about being surprised by people's.
Speaker 1: Divorces, sorry what did you do AT abc programming and
scheduling for prime?
Speaker 2: TIME i didn't know if that's how she Met.
Speaker 1: Adam, NO i Met adam?
Speaker 2: Before how did you Meet?
Speaker 1: ADAM i was working at a production, Company New World,
entertainment and they were Doing Love Line Fox television BEFORE,
mtv and he did the pilot AND i, thought this
guy is so. Funny and they're, like that's Mister bertram
on K rock AND i was, like, REALLY i thought
Mister bertram was a real shop. TEACHER i didn't know
the CHARACTER i, did AND i Thought jimmy the sports
guy really lived with his mother and you, know and
Uh so THEN i met him AND i told him
he was so, funny and he did a pilot for a.
Speaker 2: Company was it? Instant was it love at first?
Speaker 1: SIGHT i thought he was, cute BUT i didn't like his.
Hair his hair is too. NAPPY i didn't like. It
and when he stared at me all the. Time we
were on our first date and he went to the
bar and he ordered my drink and he kept turning
and looking at me and smiling at, me AND i, Thought,
oh this guy just wants to have SAgs on me
and move, on and he, didn't and he didn't move
on and.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to have with.
Speaker 1: Him well he did and he still.
Speaker 2: Does from WHAT i heard.
Speaker 3: About.
Speaker 1: Him what got me was that he, said, uh you,
Know i'll date you and. Everything but this was like
on our second date and he, Said i'll date, you
but if you want to date other, people then, uh
you can go ahead and do, that BUT i won't
date you Because i'm not that kind of. GUY i
don't like to date a bunch of people at. Once
and then he took me on a. Date and then
the next day he called me and he was, Like
i'm in your. Neighborhood CAN i come? Over Because jimmy
lived down the street from. Me so he came over and,
no was? It, yeah that's so.
Speaker 2: Sweet how did you? Guys? Mate how did you and your?
Husband your husband wrote a dad's book, too WHICH i
think is so cool what your husband wrote a? Book nor.
Speaker 3: He did not write a dad's. Book, yeah who are
you thinking? Of you know what you're thinking Of Robert? Wilder,
yeah he's an. Author he's no relation to.
Speaker 1: ME i thought that was, NO i wrote a dad.
Speaker 2: Book, Oh i'm so, sorry that's.
Speaker 3: Okay what does my husband is a, producer he.
Speaker 2: Should totally write a, book because what a great marketing
angle for, you.
Speaker 3: Right he could write the dad's, side and my husband
is a really good. DAD i met my husband ON. Aol,
yeah and it was before there was like it was
before the online dating. Thing we weren't online. Dating it
was that you remember back in the. Day WHEN i
first HAD, aol you could put put stuff on your. Profile,
yeah so my husband HAD i was. OKAY i was
a little lonely and like a little. Bored SO i
would look up people's profiles and then send them random
instant messages and see if they were, funny if they
would joke back the.
Speaker 2: Same you were already Craving facebook before it even.
Speaker 3: Existed it, WAS i absolutely. Was it was way. Early
so WHAT i would do IS i would find people
that had anything funny in their, profile and THEN i
would send them a message and usually they would just
immediately go, hey, hey are you a? Chick and like
what do you look? Like what's your height and? Weight
and THEN i would move. On so WHEN i found
my husband's, profile it said he was in television and
that his hobbies include. Sleeping so, BASICALLY i just, said,
OH i see that you're into, television AND i am
interested in buying a, television you, know can you give
me any? Tips and he was funny right off the.
Bat he was just, funny and we kind of sparred
a little bit and just chatted back and forth for,
months and THEN i was the one who was, like,
listen we need to meet BECAUSE i need to either
know that you're for me BECAUSE i was already kind
of fallen for, him OR i need to move on
in my brain Because i've built up this whole fantasy
life about this. Guy and so we, met AND i,
NO i didn't like him at. All, HONESTLY i was.
NOT i was not. Attracted BUT i went out with
him a few times AND i got very. Tragic, yeah,
yeah he totally grew on. Me it was it's all
about you. KNOW i gave him another. CHANCE i was,
like he's really. FUNNY i THINK i got. SCARED i
THINK i had built it up so much in my
brain that you, know he was just a normal. Guy
and ONCE i got over, that and you know WHAT i,
mean moved past the online guy to real. Guy m
then we fall in.
Speaker 1: Love, oh that's so.
Speaker 3: Nice been together eleven.
Speaker 1: Years eleven. Years. Wow see that's a lesson for all
women out there that are you, know they they meet
a guy and then they go out and then they're,
Like i'm not. Attracted dump you, know they, forget but
you got to give him a. CHANCE i really believe
that do a couple more dates and see what.
Speaker 3: Happens, yeah IT'S i really feel strongly that a, big you,
know component of. Marriage if you're going to be with
somebody over the long, term you have to be. Friends you,
know you have to have stuff in, common you have
to want to hang out with the, person watch REALITY,
tv you, know do stuff that you would do on your.
Own it can't always be about the other person and
about you, know being somebody or not or you, know
because the feigning interest in the ship that they like
to do only takes you so.
Speaker 1: Far, Yeah, stephanie do you have a cell phone on
you by any? Gum?
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know someone's cell phone is weird. Anyways but
what's coming out definitely is what both of you are
saying is that you felt that he was, funny.
Speaker 1: Funny, Funny, yeah my husband's. Hilarious chicks dig funny, girl dig,
funny but they can't be funny and. Ugly they gotta
be funny and. Cute, yeah get funny ugly. Guy, yeah
BUT i know everybody always says, that you, know the
chicks chicks.
Speaker 2: Like i've never did guys for looks, Anyway.
Speaker 1: But, realistically there's gotta be something.
Speaker 3: THERE i, mean we're not dating Carrot. Top we're talking
about you.
Speaker 2: KNOW i was a big chubby chaser in my.
Speaker 3: Day really love.
Speaker 2: It give me a big you would Like Jimmy. Kimmel
PROBABLY i actually dated a. GUY i lived, with a
guy In australia who looked a lot Like jimmy on
his kind of heavier.
Speaker 1: Side really, yeah Well jimmy did lose weight, recently but he.
Speaker 2: Did but when he was kind of, chunkier you like
a bit of, Chunk.
Speaker 1: But he was never he was never.
Speaker 2: Fat he was but see that, face like he had
that face and he looks exactly like the GUY i. Dated.
There she, SERIOUSLY i never noticed that. Before that is so.
Speaker 1: Weird jimmy looked Like john trav, Young john travolt the
way you got, married that is.
Speaker 3: Weird Sarah sulverman was into.
Speaker 2: Him, Now i'm getting freaked. Out i'm not going to
be out a Look jimmy in the eye again without
thinking about this.
Speaker 3: Guy, see women can be attracted to a, man you,
know and overlook the chubby and the for their for their.
Humor but you don't really see the reverse of.
Speaker 2: That, yeah you, do just not In. La, really just
men IN la are extremely, really it's. Superficial in the
rest of the you see a lot of people like
you have to, see like the skinny guy dating the
really big girl.
Speaker 3: Girl maybe they're full on chubby. Chaser they're probably not
just like but she's.
Speaker 1: Hilarious, yeah they're not saying.
Speaker 3: That they're not like.
Speaker 1: You, funny so funny right, Now, guys.
Speaker 3: She's really, Smart like she really can correct me on
a lot of you know. Points, YEAH i love a.
Speaker 2: MAN i could correct my grammatical.
Speaker 1: Errors you, know it's. Funny we were talking about you
gotta be have stuff in. Common WHEN i first Met,
adam he was pretty, lazy not to say, lazy but
he loved to, sleep he loved to, relax he loved
to WATCH. Tv and then through the years he started
getting more and more. Successful because WHEN i first met,
him he wasn't really doing, anything just love line and that.
Way but then he started Doing The Man, show and
then he started doing all these other, stuff and and
he's you, know he just got busier and, busier and
then as he got, busier he got less. Lazy AND
i was, like what happened to the guy that liked
to take a nap on A.
Speaker 5: Tuesday you know what's funny about that is is that
WAS i remember when he was talking about you BEFORE
i met, you and he was talking about how pretty
you were and all of that, stuff and one of
the things he said he liked most about you was
that you were lazy like, him.
Speaker 2: So that you like to, nap you'd like to.
Speaker 1: Relax he didn't want to go out all the. Time you,
know you guys were the same, speed at the same. Speed,
yeah but now that's his biggest, Complaint, like, hey, mama get,
up get, going get, moving get, working let's go to. Work.
Speaker 2: NOW i relate to that so. Much what you just.
SAID i just, want like KIND i have my husband
and then some other guy who's like, unemployed BECAUSE i
just want somebody to like sit around and be my
fan the way my husband had time to. Do and
it's like the reality is that guy has a ponytail
and a futon right and nothing to his. Name AND
i want that guy and my. HUSBAND i don't even
have to fuck that. GUY i just want him to
be around to like to hang so THAT i can. Go,
look what funny thing the kids did not to go
to get.
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i was getting up every day and going to
work UNTIL i had. Kids and then ONCE i had,
kids it was, like you're forced to. Stay this is
WHY i think a lot of moms get depressed, too
and because once you have, kids you. STOP i, mean
you have to slow. Down you're either gonna go back
to work or you're gonna stay. Home and if you're
gonna stay home LIKE i, did then you're. Home and
then your husband's getting up and going to work every
day and you're. Home AND i was used to getting
up and going to work and being on the go
all the, time but now it's, like why can't you
stay home with me on a two? Day you? Know
and then that's when the alcohol gets, going or the
viketing gets, popped or the depression gets.
Speaker 2: Set, in all the raging against the.
Speaker 1: Kids and the other thing is that one thing that
challenges moms and what challenges me is you got to
find what is, interesting what interests? You what are your?
Interests can you do stuff while you're staying home? Mom you,
know you got to have that you try and get
that balance, back you, know.
Speaker 2: And if you have your own, passion you're going to
be less likely to look at your partner and be, like,
oh you're you, know a fine fault with, everything because you,
know take a look at, yourself like maybe your life is.
Lacking it's.
Speaker 1: Not you can't look to your husband to.
Speaker 3: Satisfy you also have to realize too that these that
it's mostly like that for a few. YEARS i think some,
people you, know feel so trapped because they feel, like Oh,
god this is my, life this is, it but you
don't realize that it. Is but for only a couple of, years,
right and then your kids go to, school and then
your life, changes you. KNOW i, MEAN i know for,
ME i felt very like my world had come to
a screeching. Halt AND i DIDN'T i couldn't see. That
it was my first, baby SO i just, thought this is.
It my whole life has. CHANGED i Think i've made
a big mistake BECAUSE i this is not WHAT i
wanted and then you, know it's, like now my kid's,
six it's a totally different.
Speaker 1: Story, yeah is that why you started doing your?
Speaker 3: Blog that was exactly WHY i started doing my blood
when When elbie was four months, OLD i felt LIKE
i have to have some. Outlets i'm just feeling so
not creatively fulfilled at. All i'm just, Home i'm not,
Sleeping i'm you, know getting. Depressed and SO i started
writing and trying to see IF i could still be. Funny,
yeah and that's what.
Speaker 2: Happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah and then it was a great way to connect,
too with other moms, because you, know AND i found
out very quickly that everything THAT i was going, through
so was everybody, else you, Know and all of a
SUDDEN i found this online community and that helped me as.
Well WHEN i quit, drinking WHEN i Had, sadie and
when my daughter was you, know born, small all of
the things That i've gone, THROUGH i have to say
my blog helped, me you, know because there was always
somebody out there that was doing the same.
Speaker 2: Thing are you friends With? Deuce? No moving, On.
Speaker 3: I'm not not friends with, her but it's you, KNOW
i met her. Once, NO i don't know. Her Who's.
Speaker 2: Deuce deuce is the five hundred pound gorilla of the blogging,
world but in a positive. Way she's the person who
first figured out how to really monetize the parenting kind
of model AND.
Speaker 3: I haven't figured that out. Yet, well did you do
Some deuce?
Speaker 1: Tips i'll tell you what she makes money doing her blog.
Speaker 2: Advertising see it's interesting because for, ME i always wrote
SINCE i was a, kid it's always been what saved my.
Life and WHEN i became a mom was the first
time THAT i felt LIKE i was part of a
community of. Something and so that's the thing you were talking,
about like not judging other, Moms LIKE i just don't get,
LIKE i JUST i feel like any. Mom you give
me any, mom AND i will, empathize. Relate they will
empathize and relate to me. PERIOD i don't care who you.
Are and that's somebody who's drowned their children in a
pond because they were so mentally, ill to somebody who's you,
Know penny perfect and has the casse role on the dinner. Table,
LIKE i just feel like we get moms get each
other in a certain, way and that's why it's been
a big blessing for.
Speaker 3: Me but do you really get the mom that drowned her?
Speaker 1: KIDS i, DO i.
Speaker 5: Do, yeah you know WHAT i don't get about. THAT
i get very fired up about this. Topic SO i
was so horrified by that whole, thing as everybody.
Speaker 2: Was the most horrible. Thing it's the fact that she defended. Herself.
Speaker 5: Whatever if it's you're, crazy, insanity your, claim if you
snap out of your, insanity or if you get medicated
for postpartum or whatever it, is if you want to
live after systematically each one of your, kids then you're
fucked up and you're.
Speaker 1: Guilty as far AS i, BELIEVE i never, HEARD i
never heard her say.
Speaker 2: That the person That i'm thinking of, was by the,
way on a suicide watch after she did snap out
of it and has been on a suicide watch ever
since because she realized what she. Did and, Yes so
in no, way please do not all fucking write. In
in no way AM i saying THAT i can get
down the woman who drowned her kids or. Anything it's obviously.
Horrendous What i'm saying IS i understand something about being a.
MOM i understand something about being that mentally, ill having zero,
support being that, isolated that that could. Happen i'm SAYING.
Speaker 5: I understand, THAT i totally AND i agree that postpartum
is an Illins you, KNOW i had. POSTPARTUM i know
a lot of people who. Did but my point was
that she really her and her team and her family
and all of. That they really were defending her and
she wanted to get. OFF i, mean she was on
suicide watch for a period of, time but during all that,
coverage and god, KNOWS i wasn't. There just from an
outsider looking in and, like here we are the parent.
Speaker 2: Experiment we don't.
Speaker 5: Judge Here i'm, judging BUT i just can'tge.
Speaker 2: IT i think you can.
Speaker 5: JUDGE i, MEAN i just think if you snap out
of it and you want to, DEFEND i would just
Be i'm, Guilty put me, away throw me in the.
Speaker 1: Skill just kill, me do.
Speaker 2: IT i would.
Speaker 5: NOT i wouldn't sit by and let someone else defend
me BECAUSE i wouldn't want to be around.
Speaker 3: Anymore AND i just just that's.
Speaker 2: Me, WELL i think they were going for an insanity,
defense WHICH i, mean it just it's a very complicated.
Issue if you treat somebody with that level of, psychosis
when you're hearing voices that are telling you to do
those kinds of. THINGS i, mean you can't imagine how
much suffering there is for somebody who hears voices like.
Speaker 3: That my husband was wanted to try the other. Guy
the husband was, LIKE i feel sorry for. Her this
guy is their. Criminal you.
Speaker 2: Know he isolated, her he didn't let her family contact.
Speaker 3: Her forced her to have more kids as.
Speaker 2: Well she kept SAYING i cannot do, This i'm on the,
edge and he did not. LISTEN i agree WITH.
Speaker 5: I agree with that. TOO i think they're both. GUILTY
i think he's definitely responsible for a big part of.
It my just my feeling WAS i couldn't imagine being
a mother and snapping out of, it or being medicated
and realizing what you've done and not just and wanting
to defend yourself at, all insanity defense or. NOT i
just would feel LIKE i wouldn't want to be around.
Speaker 3: Anyway this was an awesome closing.
Speaker 1: Note So, stephanie what are? You where can we find
you these?
Speaker 3: Days, Well i'm At Stephanie Wilder taylor dot. Com mm,
Hmm stephanie was, Enough and you're.
Speaker 2: Also at home working on your happy.
Speaker 3: Marriage, Yes i'm spending a lot of time working on my.
Speaker 1: Marriage and writing your next, book.
Speaker 3: My next, book And i'm figuring out What i'm gonna write.
Next if you have ideas right into my, Book i'm taking.
Speaker 2: Requests you AND i are going to co write a,
Book tips for A Happy.
Speaker 3: Marriage, okay all, right you've.
Speaker 2: Got better shake on. It all, Right i'm serious BECAUSE
i wanted to do that. Book there's gonna be.
Speaker 3: A lot of sarcasm. Though, well that's the, precious you, Know.
Speaker 2: I'll do the the well, anyway we'll, talk all, right we'll.
Speaker 3: Talk i'm On, Twitter, yes S Wilder, tailor That's Wilder. Tailor, yeah,
you by the, way did not follow me back On.
Speaker 2: Twitter excuse? Me, you by the way did not respond
to me On. TWITTER i did KNOW i wrote to
you and you just just me.
Speaker 3: You DID i didn't GET i?
Speaker 2: Did yeah you?
Speaker 3: Did, NO i?
Speaker 1: Did, yeah you're.
Speaker 2: Dead how do you?
Speaker 3: Know Malibu mom won AND i didn't write. Back. Yeah
wait a, minute BUT i went onto your. Website, NO
i must, have because THEN i watched your funny Your Malibu.
Mom she. Did YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Forgot MAYBE i.
Speaker 3: Did get just MAYBE i did get districted because BUT
i went and checked you.
Speaker 1: Out that's even bad you.
Speaker 3: Out, yeah, NO i you, know it's really funny with
with the being The malibu mom and in the. Playground
have you met those? Girls?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah that's the that's what we're talking about for
the helicopter parents because there's a line in that THAT
i said AND i improvised it as the character WHERE i,
go does that have sugar in? It and it's, Like
i've caught myself saying that because you don't want your
kids to have too much. SUGAR i never said.
Speaker 1: THAT i have to, Say i've never said.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: NEVER i don't notice anything when they have sugar not.
Sugar it's all the.
Speaker 3: Same if it's late and if it's at, night the,
dessert dessert to. Bed really, yeah.
Speaker 2: Don't you notice the difference after they've had.
Speaker 1: Sugar, No, no they don't go bouncing off the. Walls
they bounce off the walls no matter. What after dinner
they bounce off the. Wall so it's whether they have
dessert or. Not so it.
Speaker 3: DOESN'T i think we've established here That lynette does not
care about our.
Speaker 2: Kids you, Do, caroline don't feed into, that because, seriously
there are some people who are, gonna you, know interpret
that and that's that's that's just so not.
Speaker 1: TRUE i care about my, kids that's WHY i give them.
Speaker 3: Sugar, well you, know it just goes TO i, mean
there are many styles of parenting. Exactly you, know people
can you can be. Lax i'm lax with my kids
with tons of. STUFF i still Think i'm an excellent.
Mom here you.
Speaker 1: Go, yeah, well thank You, stephanie thanks for.
Speaker 3: Coming thank you so much for having me. This this
is a great. Show it was.
Speaker 1: Fun, yeah come back. Again, okay, okay, well thank you.
Everybody that's The Parent. Experiment I'm Lynnette, Corolla.
Speaker 2: I'm susanna Brisk and remember they're your. Kids try not
to f them.
Speaker 1: Up WHAT i was in the world