Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. It is Wednesday, June third. It is
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Speaker 1: the day I think, in my opinion, is I saw.
Speaker 1: We all saw if you were watching the stream, one
Speaker 1: of the sickest ways to bust a tournament you will
Speaker 1: ever see. That happened in the ten KGG millions. We
Speaker 1: will talk about it. We got Helmuth Megan another run
Speaker 1: in an absolutely loaded ten k deuced to seven field.
Speaker 1: As you might expect from that tournament, we had winners
Speaker 1: in the fifteen hundred dollars six Max and the six
Speaker 1: hundred dollars PLO. We might have a winner in the
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars mixed.
Speaker 2: Omaha.
Speaker 1: They are heads up right now. If they get to
Speaker 1: a winner, great, we'll talk about it. If they don't
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Speaker 1: All right, this beat, guys, I mean the situation that
Speaker 1: went down in the ten KGG millions. There are three
Speaker 1: tables remaining. There are twenty two players left. They had
Speaker 1: over six hundred entries in this tournament, a whole ton
Speaker 1: of late reg one point one just to shy a
Speaker 1: one point one million dollars for first place. Twenty two
Speaker 1: players left that they are very deep into the money.
Speaker 1: When this situation happened, and what happened was Ricky Landis
Speaker 1: gets all in. He's the shorter stack in this hand.
Speaker 1: He gets all in with ace king up against the
Speaker 1: ace nine of Bobby James. They're all in pre flop.
Speaker 1: The dealer goes to run out to the flop. The
Speaker 1: flop comes six King five four. You do not hear
Speaker 1: that wrong? I read four cards. So four cards come
Speaker 1: ripped off the deck on the flop. Everyone at the
Speaker 1: table is like, okay, dealer stops. Of course, floor gets called,
Speaker 1: floor goes up onto the feature table.
Speaker 2: Stage.
Speaker 1: This is all on the stream. It's ruled that the
Speaker 1: flop cards. So all four of those flop cards, the six,
Speaker 1: the King, the five, and the four are all going
Speaker 1: to be shuffled together and then one of them is
Speaker 1: going to be discarded at random. And guess what one
Speaker 1: that was? Of course it's the King. Why wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be the King? You know, Max drama here. So the
Speaker 1: King gets discarded. The flop is then six five four,
Speaker 1: turn eight river seven nine plays for the nine high
Speaker 1: straight for Bobby James, and Landis is out the door
Speaker 1: in twenty second place. I mean there, I've seen some
Speaker 1: freaking beats in my day and some various situations to go,
Speaker 1: I would say that this. I mean, it's first of all,
Speaker 1: it's the right ruling. Okay, so let's just get that
Speaker 1: out of the way. At first, I kind of was like, well, wait,
Speaker 1: you can see if you watch the stream, you can
Speaker 1: see the dealer make she puts the burn card down
Speaker 1: and then she makes three motions down. So she didn't
Speaker 1: do four motions down. She did three motions down. So
Speaker 1: what that tells us then, is that you know, two
Speaker 1: cards went down at one time to get us down
Speaker 1: to four. I thought, well, okay, well you know the
Speaker 1: order of the card, but do you really know the
Speaker 1: other order of the card, because it could be one
Speaker 1: of them be backwards, which which time when she went
Speaker 1: down did it have two? So a little bit confusing there.
Speaker 1: So I understand the whole shuffling up the cards and
Speaker 1: discard one. I checked with Matt Savage. He also posted
Speaker 1: it on Twitter. I saw that as well. But this
Speaker 1: is in the TDA rules. It is rule number thirty
Speaker 1: nine Irregular flops and Premature dealt Cards. Thirty nine A
Speaker 1: says four card flops if the flop has four rather
Speaker 1: than three cards exposed or not, and regardless of whether
Speaker 1: the door card is presumed presumed known, the floor will
Speaker 1: be called. The dealer then scrambles the four cards face down.
Speaker 1: The floor randomly selects one as the next burn card,
Speaker 1: and the other three are the flop. So per TDA rules,
Speaker 1: everything here was was followed to procedure. It just it
Speaker 1: just sucks when you're in that situation. If you're laying
Speaker 1: this in, this is how it ends for you.
Speaker 2: I mean, the.
Speaker 1: Only thing that comes to my mind in terms of
Speaker 1: like how a situation and then a situation and then
Speaker 1: that that falls by the bad beat could be worse
Speaker 1: was when at times we've seen where you go, people
Speaker 1: have gone all in and their cards have just been
Speaker 1: mucked and then they're just eliminated from the tournament. I mean,
Speaker 1: that absolutely sucks. Of course, this sucks pretty bad. But listen,
Speaker 1: gotta do you know, tip the cap to Ricky Landis,
Speaker 1: didn't make a stink of it, just got up, left
Speaker 1: the tournament, you know, went on with his day, seemed
Speaker 1: to take it in stride, and that's just that's that. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it sucks, of course, that's just
Speaker 1: a brutal way to go out in twenty second twenty
Speaker 1: second place. You know, you're in twenty two players left,
Speaker 1: down from six hundred and twenty seven more than a
Speaker 1: million dollars up top. You're right there in the thick
Speaker 1: of it, and then this situation goes down just absolutely
Speaker 1: wild wild stuff. Landis did take home just sh I
Speaker 1: have forty two thousand dollars for his finish that tournament.
Speaker 1: The ten k GG millions is down to the final
Speaker 1: two tables right now. They are playing to what I
Speaker 1: think is a final table today and then they're going
Speaker 1: to come back on Thursday to finish it out. So
Speaker 1: wild wild situation there. Just I mean, I can't I
Speaker 1: just can't freaking believe that that that that happened over
Speaker 1: in the ten k duce to seven no limit or
Speaker 1: no limit dus to seven. You got Phil Helmuth making
Speaker 1: a run. So Phil Helmyth we talked about it. We
Speaker 1: you know, got a nice little audio Clipper two saying
Speaker 1: that he's rich, he's famous, he has everything. Well he
Speaker 1: might have a ten k deuce to seven nolaim at
Speaker 1: bracelet because he's down to the final what is now
Speaker 1: fourteen players in this event. According to the Chip Sacks
Speaker 1: on Poker News, he's doing quite well. It looks like
Speaker 1: they did. Just do the two table redraw after Ryan
Speaker 1: Hoenik went out in fifteenth place, and Helmuth is currently
Speaker 1: sitting fourth in Chips with fourteen players are mating. A
Speaker 1: couple days ago, Helmuth finished in seventh at the ten
Speaker 1: k Omaha Hater Better Final table. That's what then sparked
Speaker 1: him to say, I'm rich, I'm famous, I have everything.
Speaker 1: From a poker standpoint, I didn't deserve to lose that tournament,
Speaker 1: but it.
Speaker 2: Is what it is. He had all that stuff to say.
Speaker 1: If you missed it, just go back in episode or
Speaker 1: two and you'll you'll hear help me talk about it.
Speaker 1: But he's in line again. He's in line again, and
Speaker 1: this this field is pretty awesome as you expect from
Speaker 1: this tournament. You got John Manette is still in there.
Speaker 1: You got Sean deeb is still in there. It's very
Speaker 1: interesting that Deeb, who has always said he's gonna ultimately
Speaker 1: catch Helmuth. They have that friendly rivalry going back and forth.
Speaker 1: There both still in I did stop by this tournament
Speaker 1: a few times before I left Paris, and you know,
Speaker 1: dee was was kind of given his little friendly his
Speaker 1: friendly jokes and jabs to his good friend Helmuth. There
Speaker 1: you got, Alex Foxon is still in the mix, ren
Speaker 1: Linn is out there, Chad eve Sledge is in there
Speaker 1: as well, Nioa Kihara, Dan Shack, and then two other
Speaker 1: players that I want to mention. First Jason Daly. So
Speaker 1: he's still in the mix. Now why am I bringing
Speaker 1: up Jason Daly's name?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: He is drafted in twenty five K Fantasy, So there's that.
Speaker 1: But Jason Daly already won a bracelet at this World
Speaker 1: Series of Poker. He won the fifteen hundred dollars Omaha
Speaker 1: High Low. So I mean we're a week and a
Speaker 1: half in and we have a chance to have a
Speaker 1: two time bracelet winner. I mean, that's pretty freaking sick.
Speaker 1: And Jason Daly is absolutely off and running. At the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six WSOP. Another player I want to mention,
Speaker 1: and I went. When I went over there, I hadn't
Speaker 1: checked the chip counts or anything. I go over there,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all those three tables left, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: I walk over there, I see this player. I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 1: that looks like someone I know. And you know what
Speaker 1: it looks like. It looks like John sin So Johnson.
Speaker 1: At the time, he was sitting next to Daniel Wineman,
Speaker 1: so two ws be minimum champs sitting right next to
Speaker 1: each other, deep in the money of this tournament. Daniel
Speaker 1: Wyman has since been a limited but Johnson at least
Speaker 1: as at time of recording, is still in kind of
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Is year maybe like you know,
Speaker 1: more towards the bottom half of the pack, but still
Speaker 1: in with fourteen players left. Notable about him, you know,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: I see him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't seen that guy in a while.
Speaker 1: Let's check his stats. You look at his Hendon mob
Speaker 1: his first cash live tournament cash, his first live tournament
Speaker 1: cash since July twenty twenty two in that tournament that
Speaker 1: he cashed in. Last was, of course, the Doubasip Main Event.
Speaker 1: Johnson notably won the wsp Man Event in twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: for eight point eight million dollars, and then let's not
Speaker 1: forget two years prior to that, twenty sixteen he finished
Speaker 1: in eleventh place for six hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So again very stacked field here. Alex fox In, Philhelmy,
Speaker 1: Sean Deeve, John Minette, Chatty Sledge, Jason Daly, who's going
Speaker 1: for bracelet number two. Johnson's in there, Dan Shack absolutely
Speaker 1: stacked field in this tournament. I hope they shed some
Speaker 1: light on this one on the stream on Thursday because
Speaker 1: that type of fuel, especially if you got Helmuth and
Speaker 1: deb Oh, that is an absolute dream scenario heads up
Speaker 1: match helm Youth versus Sean deeb that would be freaking wild.
Speaker 1: I mean, just turn turn the cameras on, Jeff Platt,
Speaker 1: I know you're listening. Turn the cameras on for that one.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a heck of a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Let's hit on our first winner to talk about today.
Speaker 1: THEO Zang won the fifteen dollars six max the fifteen
Speaker 1: six max Nolan would hold them for three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty six thousand dollars. Zang topped a field of eighteen
Speaker 1: hundred and forty entries. His first ever WSOP cash. You
Speaker 1: might have thought I was gonna say first Everbasipy bracelet,
Speaker 1: but no, first ever Wasipy cash. Of course first bracelet
Speaker 1: is well, that's pretty crazy. He did have a cash
Speaker 1: in a WSP circuit Man event that I saw on
Speaker 1: his hand him Bob, but no official WSOP cash. This
Speaker 1: is his first one. Jang is a twenty six year
Speaker 1: old PhD student from Georgia Tech. He also came second
Speaker 1: in the eleven hundred dollars two million dollars guaranteed tournament
Speaker 1: over at the Win as part of the WPT World
Speaker 1: Championship Series back in December for three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: five thousand. So nice score here for Jang getting his
Speaker 1: first WSOP Gold raycelet. Now is the moment of truth
Speaker 1: for these guys, Chris Lee and Justin Liberto. Let's see
Speaker 1: if let's see if we got a winner in this tournament. Bang,
Speaker 1: we do hit the refresh button and it says on
Speaker 1: Poker News. Justin Liberto wins Events number fourteen fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Mixed Omaha Liberto taking home two hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2: Five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Liberto is a crusher, plays all the game very very well,
Speaker 1: getting what I believe is his second WSOP Gold bracelet
Speaker 1: in this one a little bit of a swingy heads
Speaker 1: up match between him and Chris Lee Lee ultimately finishing
Speaker 1: in second place for one hundred and seventy six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So congratulations there too, justin liberto somebody who I think
Speaker 1: I want to try and get on the podcast if
Speaker 1: he's willing to come on and do an interview, because
Speaker 1: he's one of those kind of younger I mean middle aged,
Speaker 1: kind of sounds old but not, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like he's a little bit younger than me. But somebody
Speaker 1: who's kind of coming up and who I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: And let's say two, three, four, five years you know,
Speaker 1: has six seven bracelets. You know, he's got two right now.
Speaker 1: But he's somebody as long as he keeps putting in
Speaker 1: the volume could certainly start start racking up those WSOP titles,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. The third winner that we get to
Speaker 1: talk about today came from the six hundred dollars Deep
Speaker 1: Stack PLO, and that was Philip ardar Hard Deer Hard
Speaker 1: Deer I probably completely butchered that. Sorry for that, Philip,
Speaker 1: but he won the six hundred dollar PLO Deepsack for
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one, one thousand dollars top in
Speaker 1: a field of two thousand, six hundred and thirty six entries.
Speaker 1: Nice little nugget here from the Poker News recap, which
Speaker 1: I believe was written by It was written by Eric Torres,
Speaker 1: and I like this. I liked how he wrote it.
Speaker 1: He's got some nice quotes in there, got some nice nuggets.
Speaker 1: This one I thought stuck out. But he saw the
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars PLO on the schedule, he delayed his flight,
Speaker 1: did our dire, got an extra room night, and Bang
Speaker 1: wins the tournament. He said he used to play tournaments,
Speaker 1: but he switched to cash some time ago to help
Speaker 1: raise his kids and run his business. Well, now he
Speaker 1: dove back in to the tournament streets and comes with
Speaker 1: a gold bracelet from the World Series of Poker. Also
Speaker 1: a fun little nugget here is that he struck up
Speaker 1: a conversation at some point in the tournament with a
Speaker 1: table mate. The table mate like cigars. I guess they had,
Speaker 1: you know, a mutual enjoyment of cigars. Tablemate gave Ardire
Speaker 1: a cigar, said hey, here you go, you can light
Speaker 1: this one up when you win. And the winner photo
Speaker 1: is ard Ire with a cigar and his table mate,
Speaker 1: I guess came over with his wife just to sweat
Speaker 1: him at the end of it. So that that's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool story. You never know who you're gonna meet
Speaker 1: in a poker at the poker table, and you can
Speaker 1: become friends with those people rather quickly, which is great, great,
Speaker 1: great stuff. Speaking of friends, nice little segue here, because
Speaker 1: goes into our other friend some other events running around
Speaker 1: the horseshoe and Paris. First up, the seventeen US Circuit Championship.
Speaker 1: It's down to the final few tables. And I mentioned
Speaker 1: friend because I'm gonna call him a friend of the pod.
Speaker 1: I can do that, right. Josh Wang, our guy, josh
Speaker 1: the guy that met Tristan, met me, Tristan buy's action
Speaker 1: in him. He goes and jumps in the five k plo.
Speaker 1: Well he's still in. He is still in in the
Speaker 1: final I think forty plas in the seven dollars US
Speaker 1: Circuit Championship. So good on josh Wang, our friend. Josh
Speaker 1: I found out his last name is Wang, josh Wang.
Speaker 1: So if you see Josh Wang he goes by, he
Speaker 1: has like a weird screen name in the app, so
Speaker 1: you won't be able to tell. I forget what it is.
Speaker 1: It starts the G. I know that it's a G something.
Speaker 1: I think the last letter. Her numbers are thirty three,
Speaker 1: and it has the Chinese flag on it. But that's
Speaker 1: Josh Wang. So we're rooting for Josh Wang this summer,
Speaker 1: and it looks like he's doing pretty well for himself
Speaker 1: over in this US Circuit Championship. Chip leader in that
Speaker 1: one right now is Daniel Marcus. Covered him a bit
Speaker 1: in the recent year or two. Good player, tough player.
Speaker 1: I've played a lot with him as well. He's the
Speaker 1: current chip leader right now. But you know, we'll get
Speaker 1: down to this tournament a little bit more on the
Speaker 1: on the final day. What I do want to mention
Speaker 1: about this tournament is that I played it. Put two
Speaker 1: bullets in this thing. The first one ended with me
Speaker 1: picking up right where I left off last summer. If
Speaker 1: you guys remember I busted the WSP main event in
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty third place when my Kings went
Speaker 1: down in a blaze of glory to somebody's Ace Queen.
Speaker 1: The guy absolutely punted it off, but got there anyway.
Speaker 1: First ball. At this time, I bust with Kings to
Speaker 1: Ace Jack. So Kings just do it doing wonders for
Speaker 1: me over here at the World Series of Poker. Got
Speaker 1: it all in on my second bullets with threes versus
Speaker 1: Ace ten suited believe it was up against I believe
Speaker 1: his name is Ian Cohen won the Seminal hard Rock
Speaker 1: Tournament recently, the big one down in Florida. He busted
Speaker 1: me with a ten versus my threes. Thought I played well,
Speaker 1: had a very very questionable spot. That's it's one of
Speaker 1: those hands where I know if so here's the thing,
Speaker 1: if I if I if let's say what this was
Speaker 1: last summer and Tim Duckworth was on the pod with
Speaker 1: me and he told me this hand. I would probably
Speaker 1: be screaming at him like that, that's how this hand is.
Speaker 1: And I mean I opened tens under the gun off
Speaker 1: I think twenty seven twenty eight big blinds, A guy
Speaker 1: off sixteen big blinds in the hijack seat. I'm in raised.
Speaker 1: He makes it four point twenty five big blinds on
Speaker 1: the three bed off, sixteen bigs folds back to me.
Speaker 1: I have two tens. I mean, I thought for like
Speaker 1: forty five seconds and I just decided to fold. And
Speaker 1: I know, here's the thing. I know that if you
Speaker 1: look this one up in a solver, and I did
Speaker 1: look it up afterwards, but I knew it in the
Speaker 1: moment that I just go all in here that's the play.
Speaker 1: But this is where I decided to go exploit versus
Speaker 1: what this solver says, because I'm just like, like off
Speaker 1: sixteen bigs, like this guy should be like just three
Speaker 1: bed jamming like everything except for like aces, kings, maybe queens,
Speaker 1: maybe some king suited and like the sliver of bluffs
Speaker 1: that he has. Like sure, there might be a couple
Speaker 1: bluffs in there that can three bet fold, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't feel like these
Speaker 1: players are are doing that. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is one of those spots where I just have
Speaker 1: to trust the experience that this guy's gonna show me
Speaker 1: two kings. Like all the f and time he had
Speaker 1: not gotten out of ligne once that I had been
Speaker 1: playing with him for two hours or so, seemed just
Speaker 1: kind of your standard player. So yeah, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: that's just an absolutely wretched fold by me. I just
Speaker 1: I do struggle with this spot in general in that
Speaker 1: I think the theory dictates that your hand is just
Speaker 1: too good to fold, so you just go all in
Speaker 1: under the assumption that they do have some bluffs, even
Speaker 1: if it's a small sliver of bluffs. But then on
Speaker 1: the other side. I'm like, these people usually just have
Speaker 1: the hands, Like like, so maybe I'm crazy for just
Speaker 1: going exploit there, and like maybe I'm nuts, but I
Speaker 1: figure out whatever, I committed two big blinds to this spot.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is stupid of me folding, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna fold. I don't know, maybe I'm just a
Speaker 1: wild man. I'm sure plenty of people that hear this
Speaker 1: will tell me I'm a stone cold idiot.
Speaker 2: But that's fine.
Speaker 1: You living your learning, you move on. But I also
Speaker 1: feel like at this stage of where I'm at in
Speaker 1: my poker career, I have to do a lot of
Speaker 1: trusting my experience through these situations and in this type
Speaker 1: of tournament against the person that I profiled this player
Speaker 1: as I think this is just a fold, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: my thing is like maybe he does this with some
Speaker 1: ace king suited, but also like he probably just jams
Speaker 1: ace king suited. He jams the ace king's off, like
Speaker 1: he jams nine's eight like off sixteen bigs, Like he
Speaker 1: just jams all these hands. So like I don't, like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is why is.
Speaker 2: He just three betting?
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna three bet fold off sixteen bigs? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe, but like that would require him being
Speaker 1: able to bluff like an eight five suited or something,
Speaker 1: and I just don't I don't know. I just don't
Speaker 1: really see it, you know, especially because I was under
Speaker 1: the gun, so he should also be higher up in
Speaker 1: his range, just given the positions that I play here.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe I'm just.
Speaker 1: A lunatic, and you know, that's my first bad hand
Speaker 1: of the summer, so shoot me. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. Let me know your thoughts, what you think.
Speaker 1: And if I'm an idiot, I mean, so be it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. At the end of the day, I'll
Speaker 1: just have to, you know, learn from that stuff and
Speaker 1: move on. I will run it by my coach, see
Speaker 1: what he says. He's probably gonna want to punch me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that. Had a couple other questionable hands
Speaker 1: I won't really get into, but I thought I played
Speaker 1: them well in the moment, but you know, you always
Speaker 1: kind of question afterwards, Like there was one spot where
Speaker 1: I want a hand, but I was like, did I
Speaker 1: win the maximum? There was another hand where I lost
Speaker 1: a hand, but did I play it well? So I
Speaker 1: kind of had you know, all sides of things covered
Speaker 1: in terms of how I was thinking and where I
Speaker 1: could have possibly made mistakes. But I did look things
Speaker 1: up afterwards and everything seemed in line with what I
Speaker 1: should be doing, So I'm ultimately happy with it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: felt good being out there. I will tell you that
Speaker 1: the fields are juicy boys and girls. So if you're
Speaker 1: coming out for the summer, get ready, because it's going
Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun. Quickly touch on the
Speaker 1: ten KGG millions once again, they're almost at a final table.
Speaker 1: Wanted to point out that John Raisner is still in
Speaker 1: I talked about it on this podcast. I really really
Speaker 1: like him for as a fantasy pick for this summer,
Speaker 1: so if you got him on your ODB team, he
Speaker 1: is somebody who I think is going to do great,
Speaker 1: great stuff this summer. He is someone who I think
Speaker 1: always gets kind of overlooked for, like a Player of
Speaker 1: the Year contender. And then knowing John Raisner is going
Speaker 1: to be out here all summer, which some recent summers,
Speaker 1: you know, due to having family and whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of was just making trips out here, and I
Speaker 1: remember last summer he made his first trip out here.
Speaker 1: Gets out the plane, enters the Super Turbo and just
Speaker 1: wins that bracelet. So that was a crazy start there.
Speaker 1: You know, now that he's going to be out here
Speaker 1: said he ranted a house for the whole summer. He's
Speaker 1: got his family out here. Like, I think he's a great,
Speaker 1: great pick for fantasy. So if you do have him
Speaker 1: on any of your fantasy teams, so or you're even
Speaker 1: thinking about somebody, who can you know who's gonna play
Speaker 1: a lot of big stuff. He's a very good player,
Speaker 1: can play all the games. He's gonna be obviously putting
Speaker 1: in the volume. And now that he's got the full
Speaker 1: schedule locked in and he's out here, you know, but
Speaker 1: somebody who's not a Sean Dee or a Daniel mcgron, you,
Speaker 1: et cetera, in terms of like what you think they
Speaker 1: might do for the Player of the Year race, you know,
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if John Rasner is hoisting that title
Speaker 1: when things are all said and done.
Speaker 2: This year, you.
Speaker 1: Had the fifty hundred dollars Monster Stack kicking off. You
Speaker 1: had the twenty five K high Roller kicking off. The
Speaker 1: twenty five K high Roller this year does have two
Speaker 1: starting flights, and you also had the fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 1: Dealer's Choice that began today as well, very early in
Speaker 1: these tournaments, day stay one and for the Monster Stack
Speaker 1: and the high Roller. The Monster Stack has four starting flights,
Speaker 1: plus each starting flight has a day two, so it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty wild how this structure is made like today
Speaker 1: er yesterday, because you're listening to this on Thursday. It
Speaker 1: kicked off with Day one A and then I think
Speaker 1: Day one B is tomorrow, but also sorry, Day one
Speaker 1: B is tomorrow, but also Day two A is on Thursday,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of tricky how that all works out.
Speaker 1: You can put two bullets in each flight. I am
Speaker 1: planning for two bullets on Saturday.
Speaker 2: That should be the biggest flight. It would very likely
Speaker 2: be the biggest plight.
Speaker 1: It'll probably be an absolute gong show in there can't wait.
Speaker 1: I have always wanted to play this tournament. I have
Speaker 1: never played it, just because the time it takes to
Speaker 1: play this one is quite long. But this year, with
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a relaxed schedule on my
Speaker 1: side of things, I am going to be diving into
Speaker 1: the Monster Stack for the first time and I'm very
Speaker 1: much looking forward to it. All right, Mail back time.
Speaker 1: I was hoping you guys would answer the call and
Speaker 1: get some questions in.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best to answer everything that
Speaker 1: came in. If I didn't get to your question or
Speaker 1: I missed it, I do apologize. Maybe fire it again
Speaker 1: and I'll see if I can get to it first.
Speaker 1: One is from Mark Rosen. He said, would love if
Speaker 1: you could do a segment on moving cash in and
Speaker 1: out of the WSOP and the new WSP app. I'm
Speaker 1: an American. If I were come out to Vegas with
Speaker 1: plans to play a couple events, do I need to
Speaker 1: fly out with a full bag of cash? Can I
Speaker 1: look at a bank account? Can I do everything on
Speaker 1: the app? A quick tutorial would be great. So before
Speaker 1: I answer this, this is my understanding of everything I would.
Speaker 1: I would encourage you to check the WSOP Live app,
Speaker 1: go to WSP dot com, and make sure that you
Speaker 1: get all the official information on there. I also did
Speaker 1: speak with Jeff Platt before I'm about to say this,
Speaker 1: just to make sure that I kind of had my
Speaker 1: understanding of things.
Speaker 2: Now. I also will say that I just do cash.
Speaker 1: You know, I some cash out, I go down there,
Speaker 1: I put it on my account, and that's how I
Speaker 1: do it. Once you're verified through THESP live app, it's
Speaker 1: just easy. You just go into the the registration or
Speaker 1: the room or whatever it is. It's down one of
Speaker 1: the hallways at Paris.
Speaker 2: You go in. You just go up to the cage.
Speaker 1: You tell me you want to make a deposit to
Speaker 1: your WSP Live account. You give them your ID, give
Speaker 1: them the money. They put it on there, you sign cool.
Speaker 2: You're good to go.
Speaker 1: You can start firing into tournaments. That process is super smooth.
Speaker 1: You know, it was smooth last year. It's smooth once
Speaker 1: again this year. I waited in line for all of
Speaker 1: like three minutes. You know, there was a couple of
Speaker 1: people ahead of me, a couple of people were getting payouts,
Speaker 1: but it was very very fast. You can use ah,
Speaker 1: You can use Lux and pay Lux on pay got
Speaker 1: approved kind of a week or two before the series.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are using that. You
Speaker 1: can also use PayPal. I think PayPal comes with a
Speaker 1: small fee, so just be aware of the fees. Debit
Speaker 1: and credit card are available, and then also, as I said,
Speaker 1: you can do cash. Those are those are my understanding
Speaker 1: of what you can do for the payment. You must
Speaker 1: verify your account in person. And then once you do
Speaker 1: that and you're clear to go, you click all the
Speaker 1: different you know things in the app agreements or whatever.
Speaker 1: You can just start firing the money in and then
Speaker 1: you buy tickets, you know, to the tournament through your app.
Speaker 1: It's also really cool like when I when I busted
Speaker 1: the I mean not that it's cool to bus, but
Speaker 1: when I busted the seventeen hundred circuit thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you just wait for the dealer to tap you out
Speaker 1: and you just you can stand there for all thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: You press the button to register, it gives you your
Speaker 1: seat card. You just walk to the next seat. It's
Speaker 1: super super fast and efficient. It's it's just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: If you cash, you can have that money deposited right
Speaker 1: back into your account. Then you can just use it
Speaker 1: going forward. So let's see you come out. You play
Speaker 1: the Monster Stack, for example, you cash for ten k.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go to collect your payout, they
Speaker 1: give you the different options and you can say, you know,
Speaker 1: just put it back on my account. The put it
Speaker 1: back on your account and you're good to go. It
Speaker 1: is also my understanding that you can only withdraw from
Speaker 1: that account one time. So normally that's whenever you're just
Speaker 1: leaving Vegas or at the end of the summer, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be. But you can always kind of go
Speaker 1: back in there and put more money on. Last year
Speaker 1: I went in there for a second time to put
Speaker 1: you know, some more money for to top up to
Speaker 1: play the main event, right, so you can, you know,
Speaker 1: you can put.
Speaker 2: Money on as you go.
Speaker 1: But I've seen a couple of places, or a couple
Speaker 1: of people say online. I've also heard from a couple
Speaker 1: of people that you can only withdraw once. You can't
Speaker 1: just like keep going in there. And it's not like
Speaker 1: a bank account, right, you can't just keep going in there.
Speaker 1: It's just the tournament account. So hopefully I answered all
Speaker 1: your stuff there, Mark, and hopefully that was informative. If not,
Speaker 1: just you know, tweeted Jeff Platt, and he'll he'll help
Speaker 1: you on the way. DKSM nine to nine asked what's
Speaker 1: the most prestigious non no limit hold them a fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars event. In my opinion, I have three of
Speaker 1: them that are in the running, and I think this
Speaker 1: is the correct order. Number one most prestigious is the
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's Choice. Number two is the fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars eight game Mix, and number three is the
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars Horse And you'll see a theme there,
Speaker 1: multiple game formats for one event that forces a player
Speaker 1: to be well prepared. They have to be well rounded,
Speaker 1: They have to be able to adapt as the games change,
Speaker 1: you know. With the Dealer's Choice specifically, you know, not
Speaker 1: only are you playing multiple games, and likely the most
Speaker 1: multiple games out of all those different tournaments, you have
Speaker 1: to make strategic game selections against your opponents. Also, like
Speaker 1: you can you can make certain game selections based on
Speaker 1: the stage of the tournament or where your stack size is,
Speaker 1: and that's what or where your opponent's tax sizes are.
Speaker 1: You can do all that, you also have to adapt
Speaker 1: on the fly to whatever your opponents are picking. So
Speaker 1: I would say that the fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's Choices
Speaker 1: is the most prestigious one out of the bunch. Now,
Speaker 1: the eight game Mix, you know, that does cover the
Speaker 1: core rotation of a lot of the mixed games, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not just the limit games. It does include
Speaker 1: some big bet games. So you know, that's that's closer.
Speaker 1: It's not exactly, but it's closer to the fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars version of the Poker Players Championship. The PBC is
Speaker 1: a nine game format, so this is one short and
Speaker 1: then with Horse. Listen the fifteen Horse. Out of these
Speaker 1: three games, I think that one gets the most entries
Speaker 1: for sure. It's also the most historic and traditional mixed
Speaker 1: game format.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know there has been kind of a movement in
Speaker 1: the last year or two about taking Horse and changing
Speaker 1: it to tours, right, you know, but there's still a
Speaker 1: bit of support for fifteen hundred dollars Horse, just just
Speaker 1: really due to the history of the event. You know,
Speaker 1: a horse mix is most commonly spread. I would think,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much everywhere if you're thinking about a
Speaker 1: mixed game format, and it's always hard to kind of
Speaker 1: go against history, right, So I could say some people
Speaker 1: making the argument that is rooted in the tradition of
Speaker 1: things here, but I would say fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's
Speaker 1: Choices first, fifteen hundred dollars a game is second, and
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars Horse would be third. In terms of
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Speaker 1: last name, so I'm sorry, David. He was wondering all
Speaker 1: about my thoughts on the power, slash prestige of the
Speaker 1: WSIP brand versus the other properties for non championships chip events.
Speaker 1: Do you think making a final table of a five
Speaker 1: hundred to a five k WSIP bracelet event carries any
Speaker 1: more weight or value than one at Ari win, Venetian,
Speaker 1: et cetera, if the prize money is comparable. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I'll say it once. I've said it before, I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. WIP is always going to carry more weight.
Speaker 2: In my opinion. It just is.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest, best series in poker. It's the most
Speaker 1: historic series in poker. It's the longest running, you know,
Speaker 1: it's got all that sort of stuff. So in my opinion,
Speaker 1: that's going to carry the most weight. It's the strongest
Speaker 1: brand in the game. If you win a WSOP event
Speaker 1: and you get a bracelet, you know, that's the most
Speaker 1: recognized trophy in the game, Like so much so that
Speaker 1: other places have tried to replicate giving bracelets as trophies,
Speaker 1: you know, like, and that's also conversation. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been in the various rooms, and people want to they
Speaker 1: want to give bracelets, you know, they want to copy
Speaker 1: the World Series of Poker. Well, you know, imitation is
Speaker 1: the highest for more flattery, and you know you're trying
Speaker 1: to imitate the best.
Speaker 2: You're trying to be like the best.
Speaker 1: Now if you want to get into you know, just
Speaker 1: making the final table, I think the gap starts to
Speaker 1: narrow a little bit there, you know, But even there,
Speaker 1: it's it's always going to be like I made aubas
Speaker 1: a p Fie table versus I made x venue final table,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think it might sting a little less when you
Speaker 1: get the same amount of money. But also like you
Speaker 1: were so you might say, oh, I was so close
Speaker 1: to a bracelet, you know. So it's it's it really
Speaker 1: is about the bracelet. It's about the w SIP brand.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also think that some of the some
Speaker 1: of this question can be answered just by looking at
Speaker 1: the numbers. You know, there's a reason that comparable events
Speaker 1: at the same time of year, they you know, they
Speaker 1: always have larger turnouts at the World Series of Poker
Speaker 1: because people wait and value the WZP brand much more
Speaker 1: I mean that's just how they are. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think I think bracelet wins genuinely matter more
Speaker 1: because you know, poker has collectively decided that they do,
Speaker 1: like that is what we have decided for you know,
Speaker 1: fifty plus years. And you know, prestige is is partly
Speaker 1: due to social construct. You know, bracelets have They've accumulated
Speaker 1: all all of the history, all of the meaning, all
Speaker 1: the gravitas. You know, they've accumulated all of that for
Speaker 1: more than fifty years, and that's something that's hard to buck.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't buck history. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they do carry a bit more weight. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, You'll probably be able to sleep if
Speaker 1: you make a final table anywhere and you get a
Speaker 1: hunter K, no matter where that hunter K came from,
Speaker 1: you know, But if it's a WASP event, you can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I made a WSB final table, So I think that
Speaker 1: that does carry some weight. Michael Larimer, I'm excited to
Speaker 1: come to the w s EP later this summer, but
Speaker 1: I'm curious how are the vibes. Is there less excitement
Speaker 1: in the air with field sizes declining, or does it
Speaker 1: feel bigger and better than ever? I would say it
Speaker 1: feels a little bit better than last year. I think,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the things feel the same,
Speaker 1: but I think the move from like taking the main
Speaker 1: stage from Horseshoe over to Paris, making that thing as
Speaker 1: large as they made it, as big and extravagant as
Speaker 1: it turned out to be, I think that does make
Speaker 1: it feel really cool in there.
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of like a slight upgrade.
Speaker 1: You know, the vibes are still good. You know, everyone's competitive,
Speaker 1: you know, but everyone's you know, showing a lot of
Speaker 1: camaraderie rate to each other. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: listen during the summer, I only really go to the
Speaker 1: World Series of Poker. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going around around town. Maybe there are different vibes elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I just show up at the soop and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's great. We've got a lot of really good stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of building early on. You know, you
Speaker 1: had the big twenty k field and that many mystery millions,
Speaker 1: so that helps to kind of build the story early on.
Speaker 1: You already had a final table from Phil Helmy, you
Speaker 1: had a second place finish, a close close to brace
Speaker 1: the number eight for Nick Shulman, like things are really
Speaker 1: starting to build. So I think the vibes are really good.
Speaker 1: You know, everything's pretty positive. I do also think that
Speaker 1: you know, I know, last year GG Poker own the
Speaker 1: WSIP for that summer, but this year, you know, you
Speaker 1: can really see their fingerprints on things, and I think
Speaker 1: that that shows and that's it's a positive ultimately, and
Speaker 1: people say, Okay, this is really cool. You know, they
Speaker 1: are investing a lot into the ws A p which
Speaker 1: is also ultimately investing a lot into poker. So I
Speaker 1: think that all just kind of raises everything there. Alex
Speaker 1: Quinn asking what's my poker story? Well, he asked what's
Speaker 1: your poker story? But he's talking about me who helped
Speaker 1: you in the beginning. Also, how did you know you
Speaker 1: wanted to work in the industry. Finally, any job openings?
Speaker 1: Job openings, I don't think so, I mean, I I'm
Speaker 1: not joking. I mean, I don't think we're hiring right now.
Speaker 1: But if you have a resume, I mean, fire it
Speaker 1: over to me. You can just fire it to the
Speaker 1: same email. I'll take a look and worst case, we
Speaker 1: just have something on file that if you know which
Speaker 1: we have a couple of people on file, people have
Speaker 1: done similar sort of things, and we you know, we
Speaker 1: just file it away and if stuff comes up, then
Speaker 1: we reach out, right, you know. For example, heading into
Speaker 1: the summer wor working as the production team for the
Speaker 1: World Series of Poker, still in partnership with them, we
Speaker 1: had to hire many more people than we ever had before.
Speaker 1: So Alex, you know, had we had your your resume
Speaker 1: on file, maybe we would have reached out. My poker
Speaker 1: story is, I remember sitting in my dorm room at
Speaker 1: Barton College, which was the first school that I went
Speaker 1: to before I transferred to Elon University, and talked with
Speaker 1: one of my friends, one of my good friends, Steve,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of regularly. He ended up telling me
Speaker 1: about Texas hold him about how him and the guy's
Speaker 1: back home found out about this game. They started playing
Speaker 1: it that Day's like, when you come back for your
Speaker 1: next break, we're gonna play. It's gonna be awesome. That's
Speaker 1: what we did. You know, first we started it was
Speaker 1: it was like, literally, okay, everyone go to the bank,
Speaker 1: get five to ten bucks in pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters,
Speaker 1: and we played with actual change on the kitchen table.
Speaker 1: And then from there, like if you put a dollar
Speaker 1: bill in the pot, you were like, that was a
Speaker 1: big ass bat. Right from there, we were like, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's buy some chips. We bought those crappy
Speaker 1: plastic chips with the little wedges on the side. You
Speaker 1: buy it like Walmart, they like locked together, super thin
Speaker 1: and flimsy. So we bought those, played with those for
Speaker 1: a while, and then we graduated to like a three
Speaker 1: hundred or five hundred chip set, you know, nice clay chips,
Speaker 1: and that's what we played with. So that's how I
Speaker 1: got into it. Then, you know, we started watching it
Speaker 1: on TV. We would play like that was on Poker
Speaker 1: was on ESPN, and it was on once a week,
Speaker 1: I think it was Tuesday nights was the night back then,
Speaker 1: and you know, we would we would play some poker.
Speaker 1: We would watch it on TV, play a little bit
Speaker 1: more poker, and then you know, go home. At this time,
Speaker 1: I found on the internet like the reports from card
Speaker 1: Player at the time, and I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm and I remember I had to I had
Speaker 1: to keep it from my friends that I knew who
Speaker 1: was gonna win.
Speaker 2: Because I did.
Speaker 1: They didn't want me to spoil it. But I knew,
Speaker 1: but I was. I was sucked in.
Speaker 2: I was glued to it.
Speaker 1: I went, I transferred schools, I was at university. Then
Speaker 1: I was playing online, you know, going to school, but
Speaker 1: mostly just playing poker on the side, doing what I
Speaker 1: could to get by in terms of like graduating and
Speaker 1: just playing a bunch of poker. Poker blogs not vlogs, blogs,
Speaker 1: writing it all out. That was a big thing at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can do this. I feel like I can write, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I know poker. Like, let's start a blog.
Speaker 1: Started a blog. I ended up sharing it with somebody
Speaker 1: that I played with regularly on Full tilt. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Steven Know and he said, you know, you seem
Speaker 1: to write pretty well about the game. It seems like
Speaker 1: you kind of understand like how to put poker into words,
Speaker 1: so you should maybe reach out to Who's John Caldwell
Speaker 1: who was running the Poker News team at the time.
Speaker 1: I got in touch with him. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm working at the twenty eight two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: World Series of Poker as a blogger, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know they call him like Live Updates team now
Speaker 1: or live reporters now. Back then it was it was
Speaker 1: a different structure of the team. We had field reporters
Speaker 1: and we had bloggers. The field reporters were the ones
Speaker 1: that went out into the field with pen and paper.
Speaker 1: They caught all the action, They wrote down chip counts,
Speaker 1: they wrote down hands.
Speaker 2: They would go.
Speaker 1: Back to the bloggers who we were just seated at
Speaker 1: a desk with our computers, people with the like we
Speaker 1: would like. I'd be a blogger at a desk with
Speaker 1: my computer. I'd have a section where, like, you know,
Speaker 1: anywhere from between one to three field reporters would be
Speaker 1: out covering. They would all come back to me with
Speaker 1: what they have. They would give it to me. I
Speaker 1: would put it in a stack, and that stack would build.
Speaker 1: I'd take one off the stack, I'd write the hand up,
Speaker 1: you know, throw it out, and then just keep going through.
Speaker 1: So that's how I got started two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: I won't go much further into that, but I will
Speaker 1: just say that, you know, started a poker news, worked
Speaker 1: my way up to editor in chief there, jumped over
Speaker 1: to run marketing as part of the World Poker Tour team,
Speaker 1: and then from there spent a little bit of time
Speaker 1: in the sports bedding industry. I didn't really like it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to come back to poker and here I
Speaker 1: am working for Poker grow Ry. Gillion is the last
Speaker 1: one that we have here. He says, my question is
Speaker 1: about timing for the YouTube broadcast for the w SP
Speaker 1: this year. Bluntly, the nine thirty to ten thirty PM
Speaker 1: star time here on the East Coast is rough. Listenman,
Speaker 1: I used to be an East Coaster. I can understand
Speaker 1: the West Coast is the best coast when it comes
Speaker 1: to times, you know, to watch something like this, but
Speaker 1: also to watch sports. You know, sports starts super late
Speaker 1: if you're on the East Coast. I don't really know
Speaker 1: how people do it, but you know, being out here
Speaker 1: on Pacific time is definitely the best in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Ray goes on to say, from what I can glean,
Speaker 1: these delays are anywhere between three to five hours. I
Speaker 1: think they're a little bit lower than that. I think
Speaker 1: they're more like two to three hours, not three to five.
Speaker 1: In the past, the window used to be much shorter.
Speaker 1: On one hand, protecting the player of players and extending
Speaker 1: the delay.
Speaker 2: As a positive.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the length of the delay makes
Speaker 1: it really tough for me to consume the content when
Speaker 1: it airs. I'm basically, you know, just kind of asking
Speaker 1: why this is happening this till it's just the way
Speaker 1: that the broadcast is being done. Everything is being sent
Speaker 1: off to get I guess edited or put together. I
Speaker 1: should say for the live show, that does take some time.
Speaker 1: No matter what, they have to operate on a thirty
Speaker 1: minute delay, just because those are the regulations in Nevada.
Speaker 1: You can't go lower than that. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of times when when we do stuff on Poker Go,
Speaker 1: we do start with two hour delays and then we
Speaker 1: kind of chop the delay down. It gets shorter and
Speaker 1: shorter and shorter because we chop out breaks and just
Speaker 1: try and you know, give everyone full action as opposed
Speaker 1: to having you know, a ten minute break in their
Speaker 1: fifteen minute break in there or whatever. And then you know,
Speaker 1: by the end of a stream, oftentimes we'll get down
Speaker 1: to the point where we have to run breaks because
Speaker 1: we're at that thirty minute window. But there's just a
Speaker 1: lot that's going into the broadcast this year, they really
Speaker 1: are true trying to do a whole ton of stuff more,
Speaker 1: you know, under under the.
Speaker 2: New ownership of GG Poker.
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to cover multiple tables, they're trying
Speaker 1: to kind of piece it all together so it looks
Speaker 1: seamless for what you guys see, and also like there's
Speaker 1: things like you got to cut in Jeff's interviews, you know, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Jeff Platt's running around talking to different players and tables
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 2: This sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I mean, listen, it's not fun to
Speaker 1: have to deal with a later start time. I would
Speaker 1: guess that some of that might be just the early
Speaker 1: stuff here. The heads up one the twenty five K
Speaker 1: heads up, was that the thing just started late for
Speaker 1: all the rounds that they wanted to cover, like that
Speaker 1: was really it was an anomaly. And I think as
Speaker 1: they go, you know, things are going to kind of
Speaker 1: adjust a little bit more because ultimately, you know, they
Speaker 1: want eyeballs, you know, I do believe that, And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to hit more prime time windows,
Speaker 1: which does include the East Coast, then you're gonna need
Speaker 1: to go a little bit earlier here. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, work in progress, but I would imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: we're only a week and two days in or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, so it it'll get better. It'll get better,
Speaker 1: for sure. But you know, I do understand. I have
Speaker 1: friends on the East Coast who are kind of like, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard to watch that late. I mean,
Speaker 1: even myself here being on Pacific time, like, it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to kind of watch late. You know, there's
Speaker 1: stuff going on right now and it's twelve thirty am.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm going to wrap up this podcast
Speaker 1: and go to sleep. But it's it's not the easiest
Speaker 1: when it's this late. The other side of things is that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's called the World Series of Pogers.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't look at all time zones, but what's the
Speaker 1: best time to run something when you can capture as
Speaker 1: much of the global viewing audience as possible. I don't
Speaker 1: really know, but yeah, another thing I would say is
Speaker 1: that they have been running for the past couple of days.
Speaker 1: I've seen they basically rerun the live stream in the morning,
Speaker 1: so you can always just watch that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's not fun to have to like shut your
Speaker 1: phone off and not go on social media and avoid
Speaker 1: spoilers and whatever. I get it, But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: work in progress and it'll get better as it goes
Speaker 1: along in terms of that time and or at least
Speaker 1: hopefully it does. If not, we can all just yell
Speaker 1: at Jeff Black because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's his decision, right, and that's how it is. I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna do it for me. Don't really have
Speaker 1: much else to talk about. Actually one shout out. Jarrett
Speaker 1: came over to me while I was playing the US
Speaker 1: Circuit Championship the other day, said hello, wish me good luck.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you as well, sir. Hopefully you ran
Speaker 1: deep in that event. If you didn't, hopefully you go
Speaker 1: on to do some big things this summer.
Speaker 2: But that's that for me. My name is Donni Peters.
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to talk about, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you guys on your way and we'll talk to
Speaker 1: you the next time. H