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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. It is Wednesday, June third. It is

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eleven forty nine pm. Trying to get this one in

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heavily started before the midnight hour. Apologies for no pod

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on Wednesday. Had a little bit of a mishap at home.

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As you guys know, I have been coming home to

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do the podcast. We are still setting up the area

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for the podcast at the WSOP. So I get home

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last night, just kind of hanging around wife and I

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watched some TV. My daughter, who's five, is up kind

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of freaking out, crying. Then she starts and that her

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stomach hurts. Next thing you know, she's projectile vomiting all

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over the flat bathroom. So so that happened. Then my son,

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who's half his age, he gets woken up. He's freaking

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out and crying. My wife's hanging out with my daughter

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in the bed, trying to get her calm down and

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to sleep and hope that she's feeling well. They're sleeping

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in a different room. I go get my son. He's

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freaking out, he wants his mom. It's a whole thing.

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He's I'm trying to get him to lay in our

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bed with me and go to sleep. He won't go

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to sleep. He's up for an hour. So a whole

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giant disaster of a night. But you know, that's just

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the life with young kids. Absolutely love him, but good lord,

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they can be a handful sometimes, don't they know the

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dubsip's going on and dad needs his sleep. I mean,

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come on, come on, we can't. We can't be projectile

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vomiting and crying all like, well, what the heck are

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we doing? Like, come on, anyway, fun show ahead. I

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do got to hand it to you guys off the top.

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You guys answered the call. I asked for emails, I

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asked for mailbag stuff. I got a bunch. So we're

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gonna do that. But we'll do that a bit later

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on in the episode. Probably the biggest news out of

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the day I think, in my opinion, is I saw.

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We all saw if you were watching the stream, one

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of the sickest ways to bust a tournament you will

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ever see. That happened in the ten KGG millions. We

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will talk about it. We got Helmuth Megan another run

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in an absolutely loaded ten k deuced to seven field.

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As you might expect from that tournament, we had winners

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in the fifteen hundred dollars six Max and the six

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hundred dollars PLO. We might have a winner in the

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fifteen hundred dollars mixed.

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Speaker 2: Omaha.

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Speaker 1: They are heads up right now. If they get to

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a winner, great, we'll talk about it. If they don't

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get to a winner, sorry, guys, you're gonna have to

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get the mention on the next episode. And then, as

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I mentioned, we'll close things off with the mailbags stuff

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that you guys sent in. Really do appreciate you guys

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All right, this beat, guys, I mean the situation that

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went down in the ten KGG millions. There are three

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tables remaining. There are twenty two players left. They had

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over six hundred entries in this tournament, a whole ton

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of late reg one point one just to shy a

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one point one million dollars for first place. Twenty two

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players left that they are very deep into the money.

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When this situation happened, and what happened was Ricky Landis

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gets all in. He's the shorter stack in this hand.

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He gets all in with ace king up against the

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ace nine of Bobby James. They're all in pre flop.

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The dealer goes to run out to the flop. The

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flop comes six King five four. You do not hear

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that wrong? I read four cards. So four cards come

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ripped off the deck on the flop. Everyone at the

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table is like, okay, dealer stops. Of course, floor gets called,

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floor goes up onto the feature table.

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Speaker 2: Stage.

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Speaker 1: This is all on the stream. It's ruled that the

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flop cards. So all four of those flop cards, the six,

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the King, the five, and the four are all going

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to be shuffled together and then one of them is

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going to be discarded at random. And guess what one

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that was? Of course it's the King. Why wouldn't it

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be the King? You know, Max drama here. So the

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King gets discarded. The flop is then six five four,

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turn eight river seven nine plays for the nine high

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straight for Bobby James, and Landis is out the door

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in twenty second place. I mean there, I've seen some

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freaking beats in my day and some various situations to go,

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I would say that this. I mean, it's first of all,

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it's the right ruling. Okay, so let's just get that

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out of the way. At first, I kind of was like, well, wait,

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you can see if you watch the stream, you can

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see the dealer make she puts the burn card down

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and then she makes three motions down. So she didn't

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do four motions down. She did three motions down. So

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what that tells us then, is that you know, two

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cards went down at one time to get us down

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to four. I thought, well, okay, well you know the

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order of the card, but do you really know the

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other order of the card, because it could be one

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of them be backwards, which which time when she went

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down did it have two? So a little bit confusing there.

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So I understand the whole shuffling up the cards and

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discard one. I checked with Matt Savage. He also posted

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it on Twitter. I saw that as well. But this

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is in the TDA rules. It is rule number thirty

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nine Irregular flops and Premature dealt Cards. Thirty nine A

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says four card flops if the flop has four rather

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than three cards exposed or not, and regardless of whether

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the door card is presumed presumed known, the floor will

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be called. The dealer then scrambles the four cards face down.

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The floor randomly selects one as the next burn card,

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and the other three are the flop. So per TDA rules,

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everything here was was followed to procedure. It just it

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just sucks when you're in that situation. If you're laying

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this in, this is how it ends for you.

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Speaker 1: Only thing that comes to my mind in terms of

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like how a situation and then a situation and then

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that that falls by the bad beat could be worse

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was when at times we've seen where you go, people

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have gone all in and their cards have just been

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mucked and then they're just eliminated from the tournament. I mean,

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that absolutely sucks. Of course, this sucks pretty bad. But listen,

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gotta do you know, tip the cap to Ricky Landis,

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didn't make a stink of it, just got up, left

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the tournament, you know, went on with his day, seemed

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to take it in stride, and that's just that's that. So,

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I mean, I mean it sucks, of course, that's just

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a brutal way to go out in twenty second twenty

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second place. You know, you're in twenty two players left,

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down from six hundred and twenty seven more than a

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million dollars up top. You're right there in the thick

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of it, and then this situation goes down just absolutely

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wild wild stuff. Landis did take home just sh I

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have forty two thousand dollars for his finish that tournament.

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The ten k GG millions is down to the final

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two tables right now. They are playing to what I

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think is a final table today and then they're going

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to come back on Thursday to finish it out. So

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wild wild situation there. Just I mean, I can't I

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just can't freaking believe that that that that happened over

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in the ten k duce to seven no limit or

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no limit dus to seven. You got Phil Helmuth making

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a run. So Phil Helmyth we talked about it. We

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you know, got a nice little audio Clipper two saying

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that he's rich, he's famous, he has everything. Well he

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might have a ten k deuce to seven nolaim at

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bracelet because he's down to the final what is now

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fourteen players in this event. According to the Chip Sacks

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on Poker News, he's doing quite well. It looks like

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they did. Just do the two table redraw after Ryan

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Hoenik went out in fifteenth place, and Helmuth is currently

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sitting fourth in Chips with fourteen players are mating. A

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couple days ago, Helmuth finished in seventh at the ten

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k Omaha Hater Better Final table. That's what then sparked

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him to say, I'm rich, I'm famous, I have everything.

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From a poker standpoint, I didn't deserve to lose that tournament,

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but it.

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Speaker 2: Is what it is. He had all that stuff to say.

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Speaker 1: If you missed it, just go back in episode or

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two and you'll you'll hear help me talk about it.

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But he's in line again. He's in line again, and

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this this field is pretty awesome as you expect from

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this tournament. You got John Manette is still in there.

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You got Sean deeb is still in there. It's very

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interesting that Deeb, who has always said he's gonna ultimately

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catch Helmuth. They have that friendly rivalry going back and forth.

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There both still in I did stop by this tournament

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a few times before I left Paris, and you know,

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dee was was kind of given his little friendly his

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friendly jokes and jabs to his good friend Helmuth. There

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you got, Alex Foxon is still in the mix, ren

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Linn is out there, Chad eve Sledge is in there

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as well, Nioa Kihara, Dan Shack, and then two other

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players that I want to mention. First Jason Daly. So

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he's still in the mix. Now why am I bringing

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up Jason Daly's name?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: He is drafted in twenty five K Fantasy, So there's that.

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But Jason Daly already won a bracelet at this World

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Series of Poker. He won the fifteen hundred dollars Omaha

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High Low. So I mean we're a week and a

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half in and we have a chance to have a

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two time bracelet winner. I mean, that's pretty freaking sick.

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And Jason Daly is absolutely off and running. At the

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twenty twenty six WSOP. Another player I want to mention,

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and I went. When I went over there, I hadn't

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checked the chip counts or anything. I go over there,

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I'm like, all those three tables left, I'll check it out.

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I walk over there, I see this player. I'm like, hmm,

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that looks like someone I know. And you know what

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it looks like. It looks like John sin So Johnson.

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At the time, he was sitting next to Daniel Wineman,

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so two ws be minimum champs sitting right next to

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each other, deep in the money of this tournament. Daniel

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Wyman has since been a limited but Johnson at least

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as at time of recording, is still in kind of

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middle of the pack. Is year maybe like you know,

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more towards the bottom half of the pack, but still

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in with fourteen players left. Notable about him, you know,

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of course.

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Speaker 2: I see him.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't seen that guy in a while.

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Let's check his stats. You look at his Hendon mob

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his first cash live tournament cash, his first live tournament

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cash since July twenty twenty two in that tournament that

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he cashed in. Last was, of course, the Doubasip Main Event.

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Johnson notably won the wsp Man Event in twenty eighteen

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for eight point eight million dollars, and then let's not

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forget two years prior to that, twenty sixteen he finished

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in eleventh place for six hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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So again very stacked field here. Alex fox In, Philhelmy,

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Sean Deeve, John Minette, Chatty Sledge, Jason Daly, who's going

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for bracelet number two. Johnson's in there, Dan Shack absolutely

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stacked field in this tournament. I hope they shed some

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light on this one on the stream on Thursday because

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that type of fuel, especially if you got Helmuth and

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deb Oh, that is an absolute dream scenario heads up

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match helm Youth versus Sean deeb that would be freaking wild.

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I mean, just turn turn the cameras on, Jeff Platt,

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I know you're listening. Turn the cameras on for that one.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a heck of a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Let's hit on our first winner to talk about today.

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THEO Zang won the fifteen dollars six max the fifteen

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six max Nolan would hold them for three hundred and

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forty six thousand dollars. Zang topped a field of eighteen

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hundred and forty entries. His first ever WSOP cash. You

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might have thought I was gonna say first Everbasipy bracelet,

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but no, first ever Wasipy cash. Of course first bracelet

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is well, that's pretty crazy. He did have a cash

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in a WSP circuit Man event that I saw on

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his hand him Bob, but no official WSOP cash. This

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is his first one. Jang is a twenty six year

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old PhD student from Georgia Tech. He also came second

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in the eleven hundred dollars two million dollars guaranteed tournament

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over at the Win as part of the WPT World

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Championship Series back in December for three hundred and fifty

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five thousand. So nice score here for Jang getting his

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first WSOP Gold raycelet. Now is the moment of truth

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for these guys, Chris Lee and Justin Liberto. Let's see

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if let's see if we got a winner in this tournament. Bang,

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we do hit the refresh button and it says on

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Poker News. Justin Liberto wins Events number fourteen fifteen hundred

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dollars Mixed Omaha Liberto taking home two hundred and sixty.

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Speaker 2: Five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Liberto is a crusher, plays all the game very very well,

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getting what I believe is his second WSOP Gold bracelet

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in this one a little bit of a swingy heads

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up match between him and Chris Lee Lee ultimately finishing

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in second place for one hundred and seventy six thousand dollars.

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So congratulations there too, justin liberto somebody who I think

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I want to try and get on the podcast if

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he's willing to come on and do an interview, because

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he's one of those kind of younger I mean middle aged,

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kind of sounds old but not, you know, I feel

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like he's a little bit younger than me. But somebody

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who's kind of coming up and who I wouldn't be surprised.

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And let's say two, three, four, five years you know,

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has six seven bracelets. You know, he's got two right now.

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But he's somebody as long as he keeps putting in

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the volume could certainly start start racking up those WSOP titles,

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that's for sure. The third winner that we get to

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talk about today came from the six hundred dollars Deep

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Stack PLO, and that was Philip ardar Hard Deer Hard

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Deer I probably completely butchered that. Sorry for that, Philip,

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but he won the six hundred dollar PLO Deepsack for

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one hundred and seventy one, one thousand dollars top in

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a field of two thousand, six hundred and thirty six entries.

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Nice little nugget here from the Poker News recap, which

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I believe was written by It was written by Eric Torres,

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and I like this. I liked how he wrote it.

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He's got some nice quotes in there, got some nice nuggets.

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This one I thought stuck out. But he saw the

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six hundred dollars PLO on the schedule, he delayed his flight,

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did our dire, got an extra room night, and Bang

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wins the tournament. He said he used to play tournaments,

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but he switched to cash some time ago to help

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raise his kids and run his business. Well, now he

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dove back in to the tournament streets and comes with

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a gold bracelet from the World Series of Poker. Also

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a fun little nugget here is that he struck up

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a conversation at some point in the tournament with a

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table mate. The table mate like cigars. I guess they had,

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you know, a mutual enjoyment of cigars. Tablemate gave Ardire

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a cigar, said hey, here you go, you can light

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this one up when you win. And the winner photo

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is ard Ire with a cigar and his table mate,

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I guess came over with his wife just to sweat

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him at the end of it. So that that's a

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pretty cool story. You never know who you're gonna meet

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in a poker at the poker table, and you can

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become friends with those people rather quickly, which is great, great,

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great stuff. Speaking of friends, nice little segue here, because

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goes into our other friend some other events running around

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the horseshoe and Paris. First up, the seventeen US Circuit Championship.

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It's down to the final few tables. And I mentioned

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friend because I'm gonna call him a friend of the pod.

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I can do that, right. Josh Wang, our guy, josh

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the guy that met Tristan, met me, Tristan buy's action

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in him. He goes and jumps in the five k plo.

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Well he's still in. He is still in in the

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final I think forty plas in the seven dollars US

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Circuit Championship. So good on josh Wang, our friend. Josh

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I found out his last name is Wang, josh Wang.

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So if you see Josh Wang he goes by, he

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has like a weird screen name in the app, so

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you won't be able to tell. I forget what it is.

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It starts the G. I know that it's a G something.

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I think the last letter. Her numbers are thirty three,

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and it has the Chinese flag on it. But that's

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Josh Wang. So we're rooting for Josh Wang this summer,

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and it looks like he's doing pretty well for himself

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over in this US Circuit Championship. Chip leader in that

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one right now is Daniel Marcus. Covered him a bit

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in the recent year or two. Good player, tough player.

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I've played a lot with him as well. He's the

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current chip leader right now. But you know, we'll get

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down to this tournament a little bit more on the

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on the final day. What I do want to mention

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about this tournament is that I played it. Put two

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bullets in this thing. The first one ended with me

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picking up right where I left off last summer. If

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you guys remember I busted the WSP main event in

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one hundred and sixty third place when my Kings went

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down in a blaze of glory to somebody's Ace Queen.

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The guy absolutely punted it off, but got there anyway.

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First ball. At this time, I bust with Kings to

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Ace Jack. So Kings just do it doing wonders for

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me over here at the World Series of Poker. Got

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it all in on my second bullets with threes versus

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Ace ten suited believe it was up against I believe

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his name is Ian Cohen won the Seminal hard Rock

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Tournament recently, the big one down in Florida. He busted

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me with a ten versus my threes. Thought I played well,

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had a very very questionable spot. That's it's one of

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those hands where I know if so here's the thing,

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if I if I if let's say what this was

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last summer and Tim Duckworth was on the pod with

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me and he told me this hand. I would probably

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be screaming at him like that, that's how this hand is.

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And I mean I opened tens under the gun off

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I think twenty seven twenty eight big blinds, A guy

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off sixteen big blinds in the hijack seat. I'm in raised.

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He makes it four point twenty five big blinds on

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the three bed off, sixteen bigs folds back to me.

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I have two tens. I mean, I thought for like

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forty five seconds and I just decided to fold. And

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I know, here's the thing. I know that if you

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look this one up in a solver, and I did

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look it up afterwards, but I knew it in the

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moment that I just go all in here that's the play.

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But this is where I decided to go exploit versus

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what this solver says, because I'm just like, like off

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sixteen bigs, like this guy should be like just three

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bed jamming like everything except for like aces, kings, maybe queens,

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maybe some king suited and like the sliver of bluffs

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that he has. Like sure, there might be a couple

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bluffs in there that can three bet fold, but I mean,

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I don't know, I don't I don't feel like these

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players are are doing that. I mean, I feel like

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this is one of those spots where I just have

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to trust the experience that this guy's gonna show me

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two kings. Like all the f and time he had

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not gotten out of ligne once that I had been

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playing with him for two hours or so, seemed just

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kind of your standard player. So yeah, I mean, maybe

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that's just an absolutely wretched fold by me. I just

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I do struggle with this spot in general in that

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I think the theory dictates that your hand is just

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too good to fold, so you just go all in

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under the assumption that they do have some bluffs, even

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if it's a small sliver of bluffs. But then on

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the other side. I'm like, these people usually just have

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the hands, Like like, so maybe I'm crazy for just

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going exploit there, and like maybe I'm nuts, but I

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figure out whatever, I committed two big blinds to this spot.

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I mean, this is stupid of me folding, but I'm

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just gonna fold. I don't know, maybe I'm just a

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wild man. I'm sure plenty of people that hear this

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will tell me I'm a stone cold idiot.

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Speaker 2: But that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You living your learning, you move on. But I also

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feel like at this stage of where I'm at in

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my poker career, I have to do a lot of

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trusting my experience through these situations and in this type

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of tournament against the person that I profiled this player

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as I think this is just a fold, Like, I mean,

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my thing is like maybe he does this with some

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ace king suited, but also like he probably just jams

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ace king suited. He jams the ace king's off, like

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he jams nine's eight like off sixteen bigs, Like he

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just jams all these hands. So like I don't, like,

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I'm just like, what is why is.

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Speaker 2: He just three betting?

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Speaker 1: Like he's gonna three bet fold off sixteen bigs? I mean,

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I guess maybe, but like that would require him being

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able to bluff like an eight five suited or something,

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and I just don't I don't know. I just don't

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really see it, you know, especially because I was under

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the gun, so he should also be higher up in

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his range, just given the positions that I play here.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe I'm just.

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Speaker 1: A lunatic, and you know, that's my first bad hand

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of the summer, so shoot me. I don't know, but yeah,

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I guess. Let me know your thoughts, what you think.

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And if I'm an idiot, I mean, so be it.

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I'll take it. At the end of the day, I'll

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just have to, you know, learn from that stuff and

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move on. I will run it by my coach, see

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what he says. He's probably gonna want to punch me.

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But yeah, that's that. Had a couple other questionable hands

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I won't really get into, but I thought I played

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them well in the moment, but you know, you always

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kind of question afterwards, Like there was one spot where

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I want a hand, but I was like, did I

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win the maximum? There was another hand where I lost

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a hand, but did I play it well? So I

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kind of had you know, all sides of things covered

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in terms of how I was thinking and where I

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could have possibly made mistakes. But I did look things

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up afterwards and everything seemed in line with what I

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should be doing, So I'm ultimately happy with it, and yeah,

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felt good being out there. I will tell you that

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the fields are juicy boys and girls. So if you're

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coming out for the summer, get ready, because it's going

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to be a lot of fun. Quickly touch on the

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ten KGG millions once again, they're almost at a final table.

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Wanted to point out that John Raisner is still in

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I talked about it on this podcast. I really really

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like him for as a fantasy pick for this summer,

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so if you got him on your ODB team, he

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is somebody who I think is going to do great,

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great stuff this summer. He is someone who I think

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always gets kind of overlooked for, like a Player of

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the Year contender. And then knowing John Raisner is going

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to be out here all summer, which some recent summers,

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you know, due to having family and whatever, you know,

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kind of was just making trips out here, and I

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remember last summer he made his first trip out here.

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Gets out the plane, enters the Super Turbo and just

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wins that bracelet. So that was a crazy start there.

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You know, now that he's going to be out here

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said he ranted a house for the whole summer. He's

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got his family out here. Like, I think he's a great,

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great pick for fantasy. So if you do have him

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on any of your fantasy teams, so or you're even

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thinking about somebody, who can you know who's gonna play

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a lot of big stuff. He's a very good player,

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can play all the games. He's gonna be obviously putting

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in the volume. And now that he's got the full

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schedule locked in and he's out here, you know, but

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somebody who's not a Sean Dee or a Daniel mcgron, you,

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et cetera, in terms of like what you think they

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might do for the Player of the Year race, you know,

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00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,319
don't be surprised if John Rasner is hoisting that title

474
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:40,559
when things are all said and done.

475
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,079
Speaker 2: This year, you.

476
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,839
Speaker 1: Had the fifty hundred dollars Monster Stack kicking off. You

477
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,279
had the twenty five K high Roller kicking off. The

478
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,640
twenty five K high Roller this year does have two

479
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,839
starting flights, and you also had the fifteen hundred dollars

480
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,839
Dealer's Choice that began today as well, very early in

481
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720
these tournaments, day stay one and for the Monster Stack

482
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,000
and the high Roller. The Monster Stack has four starting flights,

483
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,359
plus each starting flight has a day two, so it's

484
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960
it's pretty wild how this structure is made like today

485
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,480
er yesterday, because you're listening to this on Thursday. It

486
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,240
kicked off with Day one A and then I think

487
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,039
Day one B is tomorrow, but also sorry, Day one

488
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:23,599
B is tomorrow, but also Day two A is on Thursday,

489
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,440
so it's kind of tricky how that all works out.

490
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,279
You can put two bullets in each flight. I am

491
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,559
planning for two bullets on Saturday.

492
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:35,799
Speaker 2: That should be the biggest flight. It would very likely

493
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:36,480
be the biggest plight.

494
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: It'll probably be an absolute gong show in there can't wait.

495
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:43,359
I have always wanted to play this tournament. I have

496
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,279
never played it, just because the time it takes to

497
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,880
play this one is quite long. But this year, with

498
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,519
a little bit more of a relaxed schedule on my

499
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,319
side of things, I am going to be diving into

500
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,759
the Monster Stack for the first time and I'm very

501
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,720
much looking forward to it. All right, Mail back time.

502
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,119
I was hoping you guys would answer the call and

503
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,039
get some questions in.

504
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:04,799
Speaker 2: You did.

505
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:08,039
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best to answer everything that

506
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,880
came in. If I didn't get to your question or

507
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,680
I missed it, I do apologize. Maybe fire it again

508
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,119
and I'll see if I can get to it first.

509
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,839
One is from Mark Rosen. He said, would love if

510
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,920
you could do a segment on moving cash in and

511
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,000
out of the WSOP and the new WSP app. I'm

512
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,799
an American. If I were come out to Vegas with

513
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,599
plans to play a couple events, do I need to

514
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,960
fly out with a full bag of cash? Can I

515
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720
look at a bank account? Can I do everything on

516
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,599
the app? A quick tutorial would be great. So before

517
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,119
I answer this, this is my understanding of everything I would.

518
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,720
I would encourage you to check the WSOP Live app,

519
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,279
go to WSP dot com, and make sure that you

520
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,559
get all the official information on there. I also did

521
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,319
speak with Jeff Platt before I'm about to say this,

522
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,920
just to make sure that I kind of had my

523
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:56,920
understanding of things.

524
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: Now. I also will say that I just do cash.

525
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, I some cash out, I go down there,

526
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:03,680
I put it on my account, and that's how I

527
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,319
do it. Once you're verified through THESP live app, it's

528
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,680
just easy. You just go into the the registration or

529
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,440
the room or whatever it is. It's down one of

530
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,440
the hallways at Paris.

531
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,839
Speaker 2: You go in. You just go up to the cage.

532
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:19,599
Speaker 1: You tell me you want to make a deposit to

533
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,200
your WSP Live account. You give them your ID, give

534
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,920
them the money. They put it on there, you sign cool.

535
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: You're good to go.

536
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:33,599
Speaker 1: You can start firing into tournaments. That process is super smooth.

537
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,079
You know, it was smooth last year. It's smooth once

538
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,279
again this year. I waited in line for all of

539
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:39,839
like three minutes. You know, there was a couple of

540
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:42,000
people ahead of me, a couple of people were getting payouts,

541
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,799
but it was very very fast. You can use ah,

542
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,839
You can use Lux and pay Lux on pay got

543
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,079
approved kind of a week or two before the series.

544
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:53,720
I know a lot of people are using that. You

545
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
can also use PayPal. I think PayPal comes with a

546
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,480
small fee, so just be aware of the fees. Debit

547
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,440
and credit card are available, and then also, as I said,

548
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,680
you can do cash. Those are those are my understanding

549
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:09,160
of what you can do for the payment. You must

550
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,640
verify your account in person. And then once you do

551
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880
that and you're clear to go, you click all the

552
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920
different you know things in the app agreements or whatever.

553
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,279
You can just start firing the money in and then

554
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,920
you buy tickets, you know, to the tournament through your app.

555
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880
It's also really cool like when I when I busted

556
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,240
the I mean not that it's cool to bus, but

557
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,799
when I busted the seventeen hundred circuit thing. You know,

558
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,279
you just wait for the dealer to tap you out

559
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:34,839
and you just you can stand there for all thirty seconds.

560
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:36,880
You press the button to register, it gives you your

561
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,839
seat card. You just walk to the next seat. It's

562
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,359
super super fast and efficient. It's it's just absolutely incredible.

563
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,200
If you cash, you can have that money deposited right

564
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,079
back into your account. Then you can just use it

565
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:50,880
going forward. So let's see you come out. You play

566
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000
the Monster Stack, for example, you cash for ten k.

567
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:55,559
You know, when you go to collect your payout, they

568
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,880
give you the different options and you can say, you know,

569
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,240
just put it back on my account. The put it

570
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440
back on your account and you're good to go. It

571
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:05,279
is also my understanding that you can only withdraw from

572
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:09,519
that account one time. So normally that's whenever you're just

573
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,039
leaving Vegas or at the end of the summer, whatever

574
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:13,400
it may be. But you can always kind of go

575
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000
back in there and put more money on. Last year

576
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:17,920
I went in there for a second time to put

577
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:19,960
you know, some more money for to top up to

578
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,920
play the main event, right, so you can, you know,

579
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,599
you can put.

580
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,839
Speaker 2: Money on as you go.

581
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: But I've seen a couple of places, or a couple

582
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:29,599
of people say online. I've also heard from a couple

583
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,599
of people that you can only withdraw once. You can't

584
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400
just like keep going in there. And it's not like

585
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,599
a bank account, right, you can't just keep going in there.

586
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,920
It's just the tournament account. So hopefully I answered all

587
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,960
your stuff there, Mark, and hopefully that was informative. If not,

588
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,039
just you know, tweeted Jeff Platt, and he'll he'll help

589
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,240
you on the way. DKSM nine to nine asked what's

590
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,799
the most prestigious non no limit hold them a fifteen

591
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,119
hundred dollars event. In my opinion, I have three of

592
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,680
them that are in the running, and I think this

593
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:04,359
is the correct order. Number one most prestigious is the

594
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,559
fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's Choice. Number two is the fifteen

595
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,960
hundred dollars eight game Mix, and number three is the

596
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,640
fifteen hundred dollars Horse And you'll see a theme there,

597
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,920
multiple game formats for one event that forces a player

598
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,799
to be well prepared. They have to be well rounded,

599
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,079
They have to be able to adapt as the games change,

600
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,559
you know. With the Dealer's Choice specifically, you know, not

601
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,640
only are you playing multiple games, and likely the most

602
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,640
multiple games out of all those different tournaments, you have

603
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,599
to make strategic game selections against your opponents. Also, like

604
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,200
you can you can make certain game selections based on

605
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:49,680
the stage of the tournament or where your stack size is,

606
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,799
and that's what or where your opponent's tax sizes are.

607
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,960
You can do all that, you also have to adapt

608
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440
on the fly to whatever your opponents are picking. So

609
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,880
I would say that the fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's Choices

610
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240
is the most prestigious one out of the bunch. Now,

611
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,359
the eight game Mix, you know, that does cover the

612
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,279
core rotation of a lot of the mixed games, you know,

613
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:09,279
and it's not just the limit games. It does include

614
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,319
some big bet games. So you know, that's that's closer.

615
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,240
It's not exactly, but it's closer to the fifteen hundred

616
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,240
dollars version of the Poker Players Championship. The PBC is

617
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,680
a nine game format, so this is one short and

618
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,240
then with Horse. Listen the fifteen Horse. Out of these

619
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,200
three games, I think that one gets the most entries

620
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,559
for sure. It's also the most historic and traditional mixed

621
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:34,319
game format.

622
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: Now.

623
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,079
Speaker 1: I know there has been kind of a movement in

624
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,200
the last year or two about taking Horse and changing

625
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,839
it to tours, right, you know, but there's still a

626
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,079
bit of support for fifteen hundred dollars Horse, just just

627
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,440
really due to the history of the event. You know,

628
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,759
a horse mix is most commonly spread. I would think,

629
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,880
you know, pretty much everywhere if you're thinking about a

630
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
mixed game format, and it's always hard to kind of

631
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,559
go against history, right, So I could say some people

632
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,240
making the argument that is rooted in the tradition of

633
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,960
things here, but I would say fifteen hundred dollars Dealer's

634
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Choices first, fifteen hundred dollars a game is second, and

635
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,759
fifteen hundred dollars Horse would be third. In terms of

636
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:16,160
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637
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657
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658
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,519
about my thoughts on the power, slash prestige of the

659
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,320
WSIP brand versus the other properties for non championships chip events.

660
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,400
Do you think making a final table of a five

661
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,480
hundred to a five k WSIP bracelet event carries any

662
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:51,840
more weight or value than one at Ari win, Venetian,

663
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,519
et cetera, if the prize money is comparable. I mean, listen,

664
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,760
I'll say it once. I've said it before, I'll say

665
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
it again. WIP is always going to carry more weight.

666
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,159
Speaker 2: In my opinion. It just is.

667
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: It's the biggest, best series in poker. It's the most

668
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,039
historic series in poker. It's the longest running, you know,

669
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,480
it's got all that sort of stuff. So in my opinion,

670
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,880
that's going to carry the most weight. It's the strongest

671
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,559
brand in the game. If you win a WSOP event

672
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400
and you get a bracelet, you know, that's the most

673
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920
recognized trophy in the game, Like so much so that

674
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:34,599
other places have tried to replicate giving bracelets as trophies,

675
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320
you know, like, and that's also conversation. You know, I've

676
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,079
been in the various rooms, and people want to they

677
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,159
want to give bracelets, you know, they want to copy

678
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,880
the World Series of Poker. Well, you know, imitation is

679
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,280
the highest for more flattery, and you know you're trying

680
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,519
to imitate the best.

681
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: You're trying to be like the best.

682
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Now if you want to get into you know, just

683
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840
making the final table, I think the gap starts to

684
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,400
narrow a little bit there, you know, But even there,

685
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,559
it's it's always going to be like I made aubas

686
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:03,599
a p Fie table versus I made x venue final table,

687
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,480
you know. I mean, at the end of the day,

688
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,840
I think it might sting a little less when you

689
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,800
get the same amount of money. But also like you

690
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,519
were so you might say, oh, I was so close

691
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,079
to a bracelet, you know. So it's it's it really

692
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,679
is about the bracelet. It's about the w SIP brand.

693
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,159
I mean, I also think that some of the some

694
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000
of this question can be answered just by looking at

695
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,480
the numbers. You know, there's a reason that comparable events

696
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,719
at the same time of year, they you know, they

697
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,280
always have larger turnouts at the World Series of Poker

698
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:38,480
because people wait and value the WZP brand much more

699
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:41,760
I mean that's just how they are. So yeah, I

700
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,559
mean I think I think bracelet wins genuinely matter more

701
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,719
because you know, poker has collectively decided that they do,

702
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:53,519
like that is what we have decided for you know,

703
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,559
fifty plus years. And you know, prestige is is partly

704
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,480
due to social construct. You know, bracelets have They've accumulated

705
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,880
all all of the history, all of the meaning, all

706
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960
the gravitas. You know, they've accumulated all of that for

707
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,599
more than fifty years, and that's something that's hard to buck.

708
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,159
You know, you can't buck history. So yeah, I think

709
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:17,800
they do carry a bit more weight. At the end

710
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,440
of the day, You'll probably be able to sleep if

711
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,480
you make a final table anywhere and you get a

712
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,719
hunter K, no matter where that hunter K came from,

713
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,400
you know, But if it's a WASP event, you can say, yeah,

714
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:29,079
I made a WSB final table, So I think that

715
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:33,000
that does carry some weight. Michael Larimer, I'm excited to

716
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,840
come to the w s EP later this summer, but

717
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,360
I'm curious how are the vibes. Is there less excitement

718
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,760
in the air with field sizes declining, or does it

719
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,760
feel bigger and better than ever? I would say it

720
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,119
feels a little bit better than last year. I think,

721
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:51,519
I think a lot of the things feel the same,

722
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,679
but I think the move from like taking the main

723
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,480
stage from Horseshoe over to Paris, making that thing as

724
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:03,039
large as they made it, as big and extravagant as

725
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,239
it turned out to be, I think that does make

726
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,639
it feel really cool in there.

727
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: I saw.

728
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of like a slight upgrade.

729
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840
You know, the vibes are still good. You know, everyone's competitive,

730
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,280
you know, but everyone's you know, showing a lot of

731
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,480
camaraderie rate to each other. So yeah, I mean, I

732
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:20,960
listen during the summer, I only really go to the

733
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,599
World Series of Poker. I know there's a lot of

734
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,280
stuff going around around town. Maybe there are different vibes elsewhere.

735
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,639
I just show up at the soop and yeah, I

736
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,280
think it's great. We've got a lot of really good stuff,

737
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,920
you know, kind of building early on. You know, you

738
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,039
had the big twenty k field and that many mystery millions,

739
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,360
so that helps to kind of build the story early on.

740
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,559
You already had a final table from Phil Helmy, you

741
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:48,320
had a second place finish, a close close to brace

742
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,320
the number eight for Nick Shulman, like things are really

743
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,880
starting to build. So I think the vibes are really good.

744
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,480
You know, everything's pretty positive. I do also think that

745
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:02,039
you know, I know, last year GG Poker own the

746
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,920
WSIP for that summer, but this year, you know, you

747
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,719
can really see their fingerprints on things, and I think

748
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,320
that that shows and that's it's a positive ultimately, and

749
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,480
people say, Okay, this is really cool. You know, they

750
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,920
are investing a lot into the ws A p which

751
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,360
is also ultimately investing a lot into poker. So I

752
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,559
think that all just kind of raises everything there. Alex

753
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,960
Quinn asking what's my poker story? Well, he asked what's

754
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,320
your poker story? But he's talking about me who helped

755
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,920
you in the beginning. Also, how did you know you

756
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,880
wanted to work in the industry. Finally, any job openings?

757
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:38,360
Job openings, I don't think so, I mean, I I'm

758
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,360
not joking. I mean, I don't think we're hiring right now.

759
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,239
But if you have a resume, I mean, fire it

760
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,880
over to me. You can just fire it to the

761
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,119
same email. I'll take a look and worst case, we

762
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,559
just have something on file that if you know which

763
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,159
we have a couple of people on file, people have

764
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,079
done similar sort of things, and we you know, we

765
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,239
just file it away and if stuff comes up, then

766
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360
we reach out, right, you know. For example, heading into

767
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,880
the summer wor working as the production team for the

768
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,119
World Series of Poker, still in partnership with them, we

769
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,679
had to hire many more people than we ever had before.

770
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,519
So Alex, you know, had we had your your resume

771
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:14,440
on file, maybe we would have reached out. My poker

772
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,000
story is, I remember sitting in my dorm room at

773
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,400
Barton College, which was the first school that I went

774
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,960
to before I transferred to Elon University, and talked with

775
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,679
one of my friends, one of my good friends, Steve,

776
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,159
you know, kind of regularly. He ended up telling me

777
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,360
about Texas hold him about how him and the guy's

778
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,719
back home found out about this game. They started playing

779
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,519
it that Day's like, when you come back for your

780
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,719
next break, we're gonna play. It's gonna be awesome. That's

781
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,280
what we did. You know, first we started it was

782
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,679
it was like, literally, okay, everyone go to the bank,

783
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,119
get five to ten bucks in pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters,

784
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,360
and we played with actual change on the kitchen table.

785
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,239
And then from there, like if you put a dollar

786
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,119
bill in the pot, you were like, that was a

787
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,199
big ass bat. Right from there, we were like, you

788
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,920
know what, let's buy some chips. We bought those crappy

789
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,920
plastic chips with the little wedges on the side. You

790
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,400
buy it like Walmart, they like locked together, super thin

791
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,400
and flimsy. So we bought those, played with those for

792
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,880
a while, and then we graduated to like a three

793
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,559
hundred or five hundred chip set, you know, nice clay chips,

794
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:23,760
and that's what we played with. So that's how I

795
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,400
got into it. Then, you know, we started watching it

796
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
on TV. We would play like that was on Poker

797
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,039
was on ESPN, and it was on once a week,

798
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,760
I think it was Tuesday nights was the night back then,

799
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,760
and you know, we would we would play some poker.

800
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,840
We would watch it on TV, play a little bit

801
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,880
more poker, and then you know, go home. At this time,

802
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,199
I found on the internet like the reports from card

803
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,320
Player at the time, and I was like, oh, man,

804
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,119
like I'm and I remember I had to I had

805
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:51,800
to keep it from my friends that I knew who

806
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,400
was gonna win.

807
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 2: Because I did.

808
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,039
Speaker 1: They didn't want me to spoil it. But I knew,

809
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:57,400
but I was. I was sucked in.

810
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: I was glued to it.

811
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,079
Speaker 1: I went, I transferred schools, I was at university. Then

812
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,599
I was playing online, you know, going to school, but

813
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,400
mostly just playing poker on the side, doing what I

814
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,239
could to get by in terms of like graduating and

815
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,840
just playing a bunch of poker. Poker blogs not vlogs, blogs,

816
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:17,360
writing it all out. That was a big thing at

817
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,679
the time, and I was like, you know what, I

818
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,679
can do this. I feel like I can write, you know,

819
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,000
I think I know poker. Like, let's start a blog.

820
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,440
Started a blog. I ended up sharing it with somebody

821
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,719
that I played with regularly on Full tilt. Shout out

822
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,800
to Steven Know and he said, you know, you seem

823
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,119
to write pretty well about the game. It seems like

824
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:38,039
you kind of understand like how to put poker into words,

825
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,159
so you should maybe reach out to Who's John Caldwell

826
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:43,840
who was running the Poker News team at the time.

827
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,159
I got in touch with him. Next thing, you know,

828
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,480
I'm working at the twenty eight two thousand and eight

829
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,760
World Series of Poker as a blogger, and you know,

830
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,480
I know they call him like Live Updates team now

831
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,800
or live reporters now. Back then it was it was

832
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,920
a different structure of the team. We had field reporters

833
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,880
and we had bloggers. The field reporters were the ones

834
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,559
that went out into the field with pen and paper.

835
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,079
They caught all the action, They wrote down chip counts,

836
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:12,800
they wrote down hands.

837
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: They would go.

838
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Back to the bloggers who we were just seated at

839
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,199
a desk with our computers, people with the like we

840
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,000
would like. I'd be a blogger at a desk with

841
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,039
my computer. I'd have a section where, like, you know,

842
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,599
anywhere from between one to three field reporters would be

843
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,639
out covering. They would all come back to me with

844
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:31,440
what they have. They would give it to me. I

845
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,239
would put it in a stack, and that stack would build.

846
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,079
I'd take one off the stack, I'd write the hand up,

847
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,199
you know, throw it out, and then just keep going through.

848
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,280
So that's how I got started two thousand and eight.

849
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,559
I won't go much further into that, but I will

850
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,159
just say that, you know, started a poker news, worked

851
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,159
my way up to editor in chief there, jumped over

852
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,199
to run marketing as part of the World Poker Tour team,

853
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,199
and then from there spent a little bit of time

854
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,719
in the sports bedding industry. I didn't really like it.

855
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
I wanted to come back to poker and here I

856
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,039
am working for Poker grow Ry. Gillion is the last

857
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:08,639
one that we have here. He says, my question is

858
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:11,320
about timing for the YouTube broadcast for the w SP

859
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,440
this year. Bluntly, the nine thirty to ten thirty PM

860
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,760
star time here on the East Coast is rough. Listenman,

861
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,599
I used to be an East Coaster. I can understand

862
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,920
the West Coast is the best coast when it comes

863
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,440
to times, you know, to watch something like this, but

864
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,840
also to watch sports. You know, sports starts super late

865
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,800
if you're on the East Coast. I don't really know

866
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,119
how people do it, but you know, being out here

867
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:35,679
on Pacific time is definitely the best in my opinion.

868
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,679
Ray goes on to say, from what I can glean,

869
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000
these delays are anywhere between three to five hours. I

870
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:41,679
think they're a little bit lower than that. I think

871
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,360
they're more like two to three hours, not three to five.

872
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,400
In the past, the window used to be much shorter.

873
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:50,199
On one hand, protecting the player of players and extending

874
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,800
the delay.

875
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:51,199
Speaker 2: As a positive.

876
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,519
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the length of the delay makes

877
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:55,280
it really tough for me to consume the content when

878
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,679
it airs. I'm basically, you know, just kind of asking

879
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:01,719
why this is happening this till it's just the way

880
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,920
that the broadcast is being done. Everything is being sent

881
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,679
off to get I guess edited or put together. I

882
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,599
should say for the live show, that does take some time.

883
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,440
No matter what, they have to operate on a thirty

884
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,840
minute delay, just because those are the regulations in Nevada.

885
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,400
You can't go lower than that. You know, a lot

886
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,480
of times when when we do stuff on Poker Go,

887
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,719
we do start with two hour delays and then we

888
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,079
kind of chop the delay down. It gets shorter and

889
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,920
shorter and shorter because we chop out breaks and just

890
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,280
try and you know, give everyone full action as opposed

891
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,880
to having you know, a ten minute break in their

892
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,719
fifteen minute break in there or whatever. And then you know,

893
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,559
by the end of a stream, oftentimes we'll get down

894
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,519
to the point where we have to run breaks because

895
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:52,400
we're at that thirty minute window. But there's just a

896
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,679
lot that's going into the broadcast this year, they really

897
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,519
are true trying to do a whole ton of stuff more,

898
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,480
you know, under under the.

899
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,559
Speaker 2: New ownership of GG Poker.

900
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to cover multiple tables, they're trying

901
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,599
to kind of piece it all together so it looks

902
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,800
seamless for what you guys see, and also like there's

903
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,840
things like you got to cut in Jeff's interviews, you know, Jeff,

904
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,119
Jeff Platt's running around talking to different players and tables

905
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:17,679
and all.

906
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 2: This sort of stuff.

907
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I mean, listen, it's not fun to

908
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,960
have to deal with a later start time. I would

909
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,159
guess that some of that might be just the early

910
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,920
stuff here. The heads up one the twenty five K

911
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,239
heads up, was that the thing just started late for

912
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,840
all the rounds that they wanted to cover, like that

913
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,119
was really it was an anomaly. And I think as

914
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,159
they go, you know, things are going to kind of

915
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:41,320
adjust a little bit more because ultimately, you know, they

916
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,119
want eyeballs, you know, I do believe that, And if

917
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:47,239
you're gonna be able to hit more prime time windows,

918
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,679
which does include the East Coast, then you're gonna need

919
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,079
to go a little bit earlier here. So I think,

920
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,519
you know, work in progress, but I would imagine, you know,

921
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:58,760
we're only a week and two days in or whatever

922
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,480
it is, so it it'll get better. It'll get better,

923
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,760
for sure. But you know, I do understand. I have

924
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,239
friends on the East Coast who are kind of like, man,

925
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,079
it's it's kind of hard to watch that late. I mean,

926
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,480
even myself here being on Pacific time, like, it's hard

927
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:15,760
for me to kind of watch late. You know, there's

928
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,280
stuff going on right now and it's twelve thirty am.

929
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,039
But you know, I'm going to wrap up this podcast

930
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:24,840
and go to sleep. But it's it's not the easiest

931
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,559
when it's this late. The other side of things is that,

932
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,440
you know, it's called the World Series of Pogers.

933
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

934
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,079
Speaker 1: I don't look at all time zones, but what's the

935
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,480
best time to run something when you can capture as

936
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,880
much of the global viewing audience as possible. I don't

937
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440
really know, but yeah, another thing I would say is

938
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,840
that they have been running for the past couple of days.

939
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,320
I've seen they basically rerun the live stream in the morning,

940
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,280
so you can always just watch that. I mean, I

941
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,599
know it's not fun to have to like shut your

942
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,800
phone off and not go on social media and avoid

943
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,639
spoilers and whatever. I get it, But yeah, I think

944
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,840
work in progress and it'll get better as it goes

945
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,719
along in terms of that time and or at least

946
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,880
hopefully it does. If not, we can all just yell

947
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at Jeff Black because at the end of the day,

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it's his decision, right, and that's how it is. I

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think that's gonna do it for me. Don't really have

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much else to talk about. Actually one shout out. Jarrett

951
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came over to me while I was playing the US

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Circuit Championship the other day, said hello, wish me good luck.

953
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Good luck to you as well, sir. Hopefully you ran

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deep in that event. If you didn't, hopefully you go

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on to do some big things this summer.

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Speaker 2: But that's that for me. My name is Donni Peters.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing else to talk about, So I'm gonna

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show you guys on your way and we'll talk to

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you the next time. H